Uy sarap sa BANGUS restaurant. They have a great Kare kareng Bangus.

talaga? whow! hindi pa ako nakakatikim ng kare-kareng bangus ah. teka, sa Market! Market! pa rin po ba located yan BANGUS resto? :?:

Bangus Resto is in Greenhills.. meron din yata sa may Timog?

Dropped by SM Makati yesterday, nasa groundfloor lobby lang pala yung GONUTS.. and they don't have a kitchen.. galing pang The Fort ang mga donuts.. haba tuloy nang pila.. parati kasing ubos..

Bangus resto has also its newest branch at Festival Supermall level 3

Bangus Reto in Greenhills is located at the Connecticut Carpark.

Naging food thread na ito.

After going to Bangus in Greenhills for kare-kareng bangus, you can get dessert at Goodies-n-Sweets, just a few doors down in the same parking lot. And then once you're done eating a chocolate cake at Goodies-n-Sweets, you need to go to the tiangge across the road and walk for a little while to work out all that you ate so that your pants will fit again. Don't forget to stop by the cellphone area so you can get a new housing for your telephone and a new Globe prepaid load. And then once you're hungry again from all the walking and bargaining (did you notice that hanging from your hands right now is a pink striped plastic bag with pearls bought from the muslim woman and a blue striped plastic bag containing some software from Shoppesville and a white plastic bag containing a carved wooden statue of a man with a removeable barrel around him that can make things happen when you lift it up?), you can go to the middle of the tiangge and buy some native Philippine delicacies (especially the chichacorn and Vigan longganisa from the Ilocos stall) in the native foods section of the tiangge. But then you need a bag to store all of the food you bought so you need to walk a few feet away to one of the stalls that sell fake Louis Vuitton bags so you can buy a bag to put your longganisa, your cellphone housing, your pearls, your software, your wooden man, oh and the shirts from Folded and Hung and Cinderella (that you bought before you bought your wooden man but after you bought your pearls) in. And then once all this is done, you drive over to Annapolis, just a few blocks away and get a foot massage at the Foot Spa (next to the place where they sell Magic Sing karaoke mics-- that you already bought prior to going to Bangus resto and which you will plug into your television once you get home after this long day) so that you can get your daily stress and tired feet rubbed by a Chinese reflexology specialist. Aaaaah.

THIS is why Greenhills Shopping Center totally outshines Eastwood City. Eastwood will NEVER be this good.

Partially opened na yung foodcourt sa Gateway.

Yes boybaha I will prefer the Greenhills experience over Eastwood , hands down .

Federal Land to Go Into Cinemas,
Shopping Centers
Business World 01/25/05

Federal Land, Inc. is going into cinemas and
shopping mall operations. The company
would operate its first four cinemas in its
first shopping mall in Marikina. It is the first
venture of Federal Land into shopping mall
and cinema operations. Federal Land
launched its Marquinton (short for Marikina
Town Center) project in Marikina City last
year reportedly with a budget of P5 billion.
Construction is ongoing for the three-storey
building, which will host food and dry goods
outlets, dry goods, a drugstore, and
entertainment centers. Federal Land decided
on Marikina City for the project because it
owns the land along Sumulong Highway, near
E. Rodriguez Hospital and city hall. Retailers
Shop Wise and SM are reportedly planning
to put up outlets in Marikina as well: SM at
Marcos Highway and Shop Wise also at
Sumulong Highway, just near Marquinton.
Federal Land has been expanding all over
Metro Manila. It may start early next year
another project at the corner of Pasong
Tamo and Herrera streets in Makati City. It
has also its first horizontal project at the
south of Manila by yearend. By summer,
Federal Land will also start another
residential project beside the first of the
three towers of its Metropolitan Park along
Roxas Boulevard in Pasay City.

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Notice that their budget for this mall is 5 billion.
That's twice the cost of Gateway w/c is 2.5 billion, I wonder how this one would look given the very high budget.

Found some rendering.

http://www.federalland.com.ph/web/images/marikina.jpg

http://www.federalland.com.ph/web/images/marikina2.jpg

http://www.federalland.com.ph/web/images/marikina3.jpg

Looks like a strip mall to me.

Smells like one to me. Maybe because it is.

SM MALL OF ASIA
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This is the parking structure right? and the middle building is the mall?

Nice update. Not sure though w/c one is the mall and the parking.

a00556425, you're my hero! I've been posting pleas for anyone to post pictures of the project here either by finding one or going down to the Bay and taking pictures! Thank you :)

Thanks for the update. Looks like the building shown is the left part of MOA according to the rendering. MOA is huge, have they started building the other sections of the mall (center and right in the rendering)?

doesn't look at it.. and the thing is, this part already looks huge:D

Thanks for the update. Looks like the building shown is the left part of MOA according to the rendering. MOA is huge, have they started building the other sections of the mall (center and right in the rendering)?

I think only the left and the right sections of the mall are being built right now.

I wonder how it could have a partial opening with only the left and the right buildings built because you'll be having a hard time going from one building to another because you will be walking a huge expanse of empty land on your way to the other building.

^Thats weird...so if you want to go from one building to the other you have to walk an empty area. And the center section is the biggest section, so whatever is being built now is nowhere near to becoming the "biggest mall".

Do you guys have any idea when they will build the center section?

Federal Land to Go Into Cinemas,
Shopping Centers
Business World 01/25/05

Federal Land, Inc. is going into cinemas and
shopping mall operations. The company
would operate its first four cinemas in its
first shopping mall in Marikina. It is the first
venture of Federal Land into shopping mall
and cinema operations. Federal Land
launched its Marquinton (short for Marikina
Town Center) project in Marikina City last
year reportedly with a budget of P5 billion.
Construction is ongoing for the three-storey
building, which will host food and dry goods
outlets, dry goods, a drugstore, and
entertainment centers. Federal Land decided
on Marikina City for the project because it
owns the land along Sumulong Highway, near
E. Rodriguez Hospital and city hall. Retailers
Shop Wise and SM are reportedly planning
to put up outlets in Marikina as well: SM at
Marcos Highway and Shop Wise also at
Sumulong Highway, just near Marquinton.
Federal Land has been expanding all over
Metro Manila. It may start early next year
another project at the corner of Pasong
Tamo and Herrera streets in Makati City. It
has also its first horizontal project at the
south of Manila by yearend. By summer,
Federal Land will also start another
residential project beside the first of the
three towers of its Metropolitan Park along
Roxas Boulevard in Pasay City.

-----------------------

Notice that their budget for this mall is 5 billion.
That's twice the cost of Gateway w/c is 2.5 billion, I wonder how this one would look given the very high budget.


about sa marquinton,they also built a cluster by cluster na condominium near the mall mga 10 storey.nag open house na sila last month.base to may uncle malaki yung area.yun lang po. :)

The article says there would be cinemas. How come it doesn't seem like there would be cinemas in the rendering of the mall:?

Metro Market! Market! - sensya di lang maganda pagka-stitch ng pix..:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/f734fb96.jpg

Serendra site and Market! Market!
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Fiesta Market!
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thanks for the photos @pau. nice.

Yes, thanks for the photos Pau. But the important question is: When you went to Market! Market! did you try the inihaw na sugpo in honey butter sauce at Trinity?

malamang punta kami Market! Market! this Saturday. masarap ba ang inihaw na sugpo? :?: bihira lan kc akong masarapan sa inihaw eh.

Promise. Masarap.

hehehe.. nope.. di ako nakakain... actually naglakad lakad lang ako dun.. took some pictures... then walked thru the open grounds of BGC.... hehehee.... nagkukuha lang ako ng pix... I walked for 2 hours inside BGC before going home... hehehe.. trip trip lang... maybe next time.. I'll try Trinity... :D

anyways... ang laki pala ng Market! Market!... hehehe... at saka... isn't Market! Market! should be called Metro himbis Market!2x?.. hehehe.. kasi masmalaki ung Metro na sign.... :D

I like the wide open spaces inside and outside of Market 2x. It's like Greenbelt with more space plus Megamall with more space add into it Glorietta's middle space place.

Well, Greenbelt with more space but less greeneries.

Speaking about Greenbelt...ALI will soon build a "Greenbelt 5". I read it in this article:

A small market for luxury goods
By RAOUL CHEE KEE, Senior Reporter
At the flagship store of French luxury brand Louis Vuitton in Greenbelt 4 in Makati City is a handbag selling for almost P200,000.

It is, at the moment, the most expensive bag being sold in the mall, whose tenant mix include other high-end brands like Salvatore Ferragamo, Bvlgari, Prada, YSL, Gucci, Bottega Veneta, and Tod's.

Although some of the stores carry the corresponding apparel, the bulk of their merchandise mix consists of bags and shoes.

The women customers who were interviewed admitted that they gravitate to the bags followed by the shoes because "you can use the bags and the shoes for a far longer time compared to a dress or a top that you can only use a few times."

So far, the Vuitton staff has been able to sell the P200,000 bag to a Korean customer who wanted it in white, although it also comes in blue and prune.

Over at the Prada store, the brand's basic black nylon bags with their easily distinguished triangle logo go for as low as P10,000. It's a fraction of the Vuitton bag, but the Italian brand's latest collection of leather bags can retail for as high as P54,000 each.

At YSL, the iconic Mombasa leather bags with their handles made of deer horn sell from P44,000 to P54,000, while at Gucci, the priciest bag at the moment is the one displayed under a glass showcase near the entrance.

Empty, the P159,000 bag already weighs more than most shoulder bags. You can't miss it, however. With its hey-look-at-me combination of black with hot pink insets and a stunning pair of golden snakeheads, it's a bag after a rich, exhibitionist's heart.

But who would buy a bag that costs more than an average worker's monthly salary? And who in his or her right mind would plunk down P200,000 for a bag that could be used to buy a good second-hand car?

The answer to that question is someone who loves well-made, brand new bags more than good second-hand cars.

Despite the current exhortations of government to tighten belts, forego luxuries, and focus on the necessities to cope with the fiscal crisis, there will continue to be a market for these high-end brands.

"There is a local luxury market although it is a small one," said Anthony Huang Jr., executive vice-president of Stores Specialists, Inc. (SSI) and Rustan Marketing Corp., in an interview with BusinessWorld. SSI is the exclusive distributor of luxury brands like Ferragamo, Prada, Burberry, Tod's, YSL, Gucci, Bottega Veneta, and Philippe Charriol.

"Filipinos are sophisticated consumers and their level of sophistication demands quality products and updated styling. [This is what] the luxury brands have to offer," he said.

Asked to define how big the market was, Mr. Huang could only say that while "it [was] difficult to quantify in absolute terms, it [was] the upper market segment that shopped foreign luxury brands on a regular basis whether locally or abroad." He described the people who shopped at Greenbelt 4 as "very well-traveled and discerning."

"Unlike in other Asian countries like Thailand where the luxury market is composed of 80% foreign tourists and 20% locals, the Philippine luxury market is composed mainly of locals -- over 99%. The remainder is made up of tourists," Mr. Huang said.

He noted that the luxury market was not any smaller than that of Thailand or Indonesia. What makes Asian neighbors a potentially bigger market is the presence of foreign tourists. "We hardly have any tourists and the tourists that do come go directly from the airport to the beach," Mr. Huang said. "Even those who go to Cebu land in Mactan island and stay put at the seaside resorts. They don't necessarily go to the city proper where the shopping centers are located.

"We actually have a vibrant shopping environment. We have a lot of malls and we are competitive. If only the government could do something in terms of promoting the country as a shopping destination, the way Malaysia is being promoted I think there are a lot of untapped opportunities," he added.

Winnie Nazareth, vice-president for marketing, business development and entertainment business at Ayala Land, Inc. (ALI), also believes Filipinos are a sophisticated lot. "The Filipino shopper is very sophisticated. That we are exposed to all kinds of media such as TV, movies, magazines and the Internet on a daily basis has helped us keep abreast of the latest trends in fashion and beauty, among other things.

"Even if we're not as rich as the other countries in the region, we have been exposed to western trends for a far longer time then they have," she said.

The few times this writer has gone into Greenbelt 4, there seemed to be only a few people at any one time. While this might be misconstrued as a lack of customers, Mr. Huang said Greenbelt 4 shoppers were people who usually shopped with a specific item in mind.

"Although some of them linger before making their purchases, most of them come in, go straight to the store, buy the item, and leave. Obviously, it's not like Glorietta or Shangri-La mall that have higher traffic counts. However, the relatively fewer people that go to Greenbelt 4 spend a whole lot more than a normal customer," he said.

Ms. Nazareth agreed with Mr. Huang when she described the people who go to Greenbelt 4 as "Rustan's shoppers" who are low-key and expect personalized service. Rustan's is the country's premier department store chain. "An average of 400,000 visit Glorietta every day compared to the 100,000 who head to the Greenbelt malls in a single day," she said.

Although Ms. Nazareth said ALI preferred to see the malls as a whole rather than as chunks, she said, "In a way, Greenbelt 4 has convinced international retailers that the Philippines can actually offer them opportunities for expansion."

To prove her point, she said that ALI was getting ready for its next phase: Greenbelt 5. "It's going to be like Greenbelt 4 because more brands are expressing interest to come in after seeing the success of Greenbelt 4," Ms. Nazareth said.

For his part, Mr. Huang said he was open to the idea of bringing in more luxury brands but that certain conditions first had to be met. "As is usually the case, the main constraint is always the space. It's not necessarily the amount of space available. Instead it's the quality of the spaces available and what the neighboring brands are, which is really important to these existing luxury brands. "Right now, all the brands that are popular and well-suited to our market are already available. However, we are always on the lookout for new brands that will or might appeal to our consumers."

So, until Hermes sets up a flagship store, people with expensive tastes in bags (and shoes) can check out any of the stores at Greenbelt 4 -- with credit card in tow.

I'm guessing it will be built on the ugly two-level parking area behind Greenbelt 4.

Yeah, thats the only place it could be built. Max's Restaurant, etc might be demolished as a result of this. I'm not sure, but i heard rumors before:D In effect, once greenbelt 5 is completed, the mall will fully surround Greenbelt Park and its Church.

From vegetable vendor to flea market king
Posted: 5:59 AM | Feb. 13, 2005
Inquirer News Service

SMALL and medium enterprises (SMEs) continue to offer bright financial prospects to the national economy.

The popularity of SMEs owes much to the success attained by local entrepreneurs.

Once such entrepreneur who has made it big-from a struggling vegetable vendor to a renowned trade and event organizer-is Henry G. Babiera, credited for his relentless effort to turn a high-end shopping center, the Greenhills Shopping Complex, into what is now being regarded as the "Divisoria of San Juan."

Babiera has come a long way. Born of impoverished parents in Cotabato where as a young boy he used to peddle vegetables, going from house to house using a dilapidated kariton, to help in his family's daily needs, he recalls with amusement that his stuff was "remnants of fresh, neatly bundled veggies that I often asked from vendors. Yung mga pinagtapyasan, halos itatapon na lang. Isa-isa ko silang nililinis at inilalako."

When the family transferred to Davao to seek greener pastures, he continued with the same occupation, but without forgetting his studies. Poverty and hunger hardened his resolve to someday bring comfort to his parents and nine siblings.

"We were poor in material gain, but rich in the things of spirit," Babiera says, remembering how his journalist-father inculcated in their young minds love of country and the appreciation for its rich culture and heritage.

Finishing a course in marine engineering through self-support, he was hired as a seaman, a job that brought him to several foreign lands. He saved his salary, buying art and antique pieces in every port, giving vent to his artistic inclination. He also saw the proliferation of flea market (tiangge) abroad.

"Nakita ko na click sa Asian cities ang mga tiangge, at mabili ang mga souvenir items produced by their local craftsmen, kaya sabi ko sa sarili ko, kung click dito, siguro mas puwede sa Pilipinas dahil mas artistic ang mga produkto natin," Babiera says.

In 1986, having experienced loneliness as a seaman, he resigned to put up his own group, the Prime Asia Trade Planners and Convention Organizers, and readily offered the flea market concept to the management of the Greenhills Shopping Complex who, sensing a good business prospect, gave him the go-ahead right away.

Early stall owners were mostly his longtime friends whom he encouraged and helped to start a small business. "Kung minsan ako pa ang nagpapautang para pambayad sa puwesto nila."

The Greenhills Shopping Complex has grown-from 10 stalls in 1986 to more than a thousand today, selling cheaper but quality items than the ones found in boutiques or department stores. Rich or poor, young and old, flock to the easily accessible complex to get a good bargain.

As a mode of brisk selling, flea market has finally caught on in the country. Kiosks of all forms-makeshift, stall-type, side by side tables-cater to customers who prefer to haggle for quality items.

In the ensuing years, the 48-year-old art patron became known as the "King of Tiangge." This, he credited to his "sipag at tiyaga," two traits that he swears every Filipino should be guided by.

When he first thought of embarking on the tiangge-type of selling as a means of encouraging the growth of entrepreneurship, Babiera heavily banked on the Filipino traits of being patient, practical and a wiser buyer. Any Filipino, whether rich or poor, would always want to get his or her money's worth, he says.

"I believe that Filipinos should have the guts to start a business, no matter how small, especially in these times when jobs are scarce, and if they have a job, there's no security of tenure," Babiera stresses, adding that "everyone should take the risk, lakas ng loob ang kailangan."

Another big challenge faces Babiera. Greenhills Shopping Center in partnership with the Las Islas Trade Consumer Show Organizer with Babiera as its chief executive officer launched the premier shopping destination in the country, Tiendesitas en Frontera Verde (small villages in a green frontier) along C-5 near the corner of Ortigas Avenue in Pasig.

The 18-hectare land will later bring the recognition of the Filipino-made products in the world market.

Small entrepreneurs from 18 regions can now invest their own businesses here. At an affordable rental fee compared to malls, these Filipino artisans display their craftsmanship and creative ideas. There will be more jobs for Filipinos that would capitalize the macro industry as a way of recovering from the economic decline. Almost 1,500 stalls will soon operate to build a strong foundation for more than 1,000 families in hand.

Tiendesitas is composed of different villages such as Philippine crafts, arts and antiques, pets and garden needs, food, sweets and delicacies village. In addition to these, footwear, leather goods and garment village complete the projected aura of the flea market.

Yeah, thats the only place it could be built. Max's Restaurant, etc might be demolished as a result of this. I'm not sure, but i heard rumors before:D In effect, once greenbelt 5 is completed, the mall will fully surround Greenbelt Park and its Church.

wow greenbelt 5. damn. they really are targeting the niche markets

egamall - a closer look
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Tiangge (St. Francis Square)
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eh, maybe it's because I tend to lean towards minimalist style, but I find the megamall facelift to be disappointing. Plus, like some others have mentioned, it's purely aestehtic with no actual function.

When did construction start on Tiangge? I feel I saw the beginnings of it, back in '98 when I was last there...

Grabe na to...there will be Greenbelt 5! I am really curious about how it would look like. What about building one in Cebu? Lol...

Market!Market! is really amazing, I really like its cosmopolitan flair.

Also nice to know that 99% of consumers are locals compared to Thailand where it is 80% by foreign tourists. What more if tourists come to our swanky malls? Yay..

@ike Tiangge just began last year... probably the one that you saw being built in '98 is the BSA Twin towers.... :D

yeah.. Greenbelt 5 would be a nice addition... but I think that would make the park more humid... since less airflow could come in... because there are days where its humid in the Greenbelt Chapel especially on a rainy day...

it would be odd that they would have 4 new greebelt and one old

^Why would it be odd?

Because Greenbelt (2, 3, 4 and the future 5) is trying to project an upscale image while the old Greenbelt 1 is quite an opposite of that.

Greenbelt 1 will ultimately be torn down and replaced with a newer designed mall.

Will it be for Greenbelt 5 or for another one, Greenbelt 6?

Maybe it will still be called "Greenbelt 1";)

huh... is there a plan to demolish Greenbelt 1?...... It is a booming place of food establishments... and a lot of Makati workforce dine here..... hmmmm..... well... it may have to follow the current trend then....

eh, maybe it's because I tend to lean towards minimalist style, but I find the megamall facelift to be disappointing. Plus, like some others have mentioned, it's purely aestehtic with no actual function.

When did construction start on Tiangge? I feel I saw the beginnings of it, back in '98 when I was last there...
* yup. purely facelift without adding function. though when finished it'll look pleasing to the eyes compared to the WHITE BOX structure. it'll have a good view from shangri la plaza

* the tiangge construction started only last year

Looks like Gateway's "La-Z Boy" cinema is open because their website and newspaper ads shows that there are ten movies being shown in Gateway.

Additional info... For every PhP400 food purchase at Taco Bell you'll get a free movie ticket valid only for cinemas 1-9. Promo until March 24, 2005.

400 pesos in Taco Bell.... Ilang happy meal yun? :lol:

La-Z Boy are the seats with the recliners right?

Wow, a new Greenbelt mall, wonder what it would look like? I bet it would be another work of art knowing the design of the 3rd.

Yes, La-Z boy seats are the ones that can recline. I'd like to try Gateway's Cinema out.

im thinking Greenbelt 5 will be constructed at where the two-level parking lot is now. that's the only possible space within the area.

:yes: Most probably...and like i said before, they might demolish Max and the other shops there.

yep. that area needs total refurbishing...

im thinking Greenbelt 5 will be constructed at where the two-level parking lot is now. that's the only possible space within the area.

But that parking space is probably not be enough, so as Greyx have said, they might have to demolish Max and the other shops there.

yeah. that's very likely to happen.

Pictures of Gateway Mall from its website http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph

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P***** ***! Ganda nung cinema ah!

that mall looks really nice, hope they're succesfull

The architecture has a resemblance of Greenbelt 2, 3 and NAIA Terminal 2. I guess this kind of design is the new trend now. Lots of Natural Light with indoor garden.

SHIT, what a beautiful mall! We should be proud of it.

I like this one beter than Greenbelt's design:D This type of glass has been used before in other countries but I believe it's the first time in the country it has been used for malls, or almost anything. But Greenbelt's landscaping is still to be touched;) :cheers:

The thing I like about Gateway mall is they spent some money on this project. The materials they use are expensive. The flooring they use is granite and they surrounded the building with glass. Greenbelt on the other hand used inexpensive materials but it didnt affect their design. Greenbelt still looks great and even looks expensive. Im a fan of architechs making an impact on their design without using expensive materials.

Wow...what a beautiful mall. The movie theatre looks very similar to Greenbelt 3's movie theatre.

Gateway mall is awesome!!! :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: i especially like the cinemas and the cinema lobby! :)

wow

wow. may dating. definitely, world-class.

Does anybody have a rendering or idea on what the renovated vira mall in greenhills would look like after the renovation?

thanks for those nice pics Thomasian!
ive never been to Gateway. Now i know what to see when i finally have to chance to go there. i would love to see the 'floating' garden...and the cinema. the cinema shown below seems to be better than Greenbelt 3's cinema. im not sure.

No, but I looked at the Greenhills Shopping Center website just prior to making this post and found one of my worst pet peeves: they are guilty of the poor use of a possessive apostrophe and they mangle of the country's name in the process!

Greenhills Shopping Center is Philippine’s premier shopping, entertainment, and dining destination – with over 2,000 stores and venues in a unique indoor/outdoor environment. Located just 20 minutes from Ninoy Aquino International airport, and minutes away of most hotels, Greenhills Shopping Center is a destination in itself for visitors and residents alike.


http://www.greenhills.com.ph/

THANK YOU SALAMAT x 1000000000 for those Gateway Mall promo pictures/pieces! It adds on to the many personal photos that people have posted here for us! :)

@pau_had posted his pics already. now here's mine:
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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p19e39b6683163cc8e5453ddd93205f74/f50f41c6.jpg

Wow, may cam na pala si ms mhe-ann. cool shots.

nahirapan akong kuhanan itong fountain.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p87fac8fca6e9c80c2526bbe754f8c9ca/f50f526e.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p16e0855dfc66931560b5d44b463f89f2/f50f417a.jpg
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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p16e0855dfc66931560b5d44b463f89f2/f50f417a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p6de3c79faf4d5bca242b86b056af2860/f50f417f.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p4ffaac969f4c4cea01bf5d1de6a864f2/f50f4185.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pca874149a7157f503b223276b019757c/f50f338e.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p4e15c7a17b75741fdc36acd155245344/f50f33c7.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pf3bcfcfc4f58f3bb95cb371fafeb02e5/f50f41a5.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pdb31a5fec09279b036afecd94fff7c7a/f50f33ac.jpg
later na un iba. :D

Nice shots... and there's still more.
congratulations for having a new cam.

:lol: How I wish akin un cam na ginamit ko. :D

W-O-W! ang ganda ng pix ng gateway mall.. i have to try and go there one time.. is it connected to the MRT station?

another Market! Market! pics:
parking lot:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pb52a8f424ab2ce72bafd03af3e61dfa0/f50f338b.jpg

people watching the fountain (but my subject was the elephant :D):
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p1e53522e252875fa493412b88a5820dc/f50f33b5.jpg

lunch time. naghihintay siguro ng mga ka-date ang mga ito. :lol:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pab44d0eedeac02dad5eecb88b6e43d58/f50f39a4.jpg

W-O-W! ang ganda ng pix ng gateway mall.. i have to try and go there one time.. is it connected to the MRT station?

There's a bridge but I don't know if it's already open.

@ Mhe-ann, sorry, kala ko sau ung cam eh.

^ hehe. hiniram ko lan un cam sa kaibigan ko. wala akong pera pambili ng ganung klaseng cam eh. poor me. :(
anyway, ito pa un ibang pics.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p296dbcb11b73be95216438f1dea6449e/f50f33cb.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p14133a8d386b9b8583c3381890aac9ce/f50f4a5d.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p94fb5d733cd98ac8c65404e99847b692/f50f336a.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pe60bca4267787f838be04f8f95dfc8ef/f50f33a9.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p60e7d4b285cb8dd59cb6d16eef77fc95/f50f337e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p48f10123399b333a767686e70f96fb3e/f50f33d0.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p21b5fb15ab01334a16adffa288e48289/f50f33ba.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p9e5bc207e0644b048f830a414d413b8b/f50f33d6.jpg

inside Market Market again:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p526a84fd318a430da4c57676ce6357c7/f50f39c6.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pc8c6d78c9d6d098ea4dd07cc427b17ed/f50f39cd.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pce315745499e22025d772b9db2fe7324/f50f39a8.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pd28adcc0308883539f3c2278b8a1076c/f50f39b8.jpg

Nice pics, Mhe-Ann. Thanks for sharing them. Looks like Market Market is quite popular...there are quite a lot of people.

thanks for the pix. market! market! looks nice in the outside but im having 2nd thoughts about the inside especially the color of paint used. overall, M!M! looks very clean and that's nice. i like the tents outside too.

-ty

hmm, hindi masyadong madami ang tao sa loob. I think there are more people outside. andami din kumakain dun sa labas. :cheers:

So saan kayo kumain? Sa loob o sa labas?

The cool people eat outside. Hehehe.

yeahh... plus di pa open yung ibang shops sa loob......

dapat kakain kami dun sa labas..kc nga sabi nyo masarap dun. kaso past 12 na kami dumating kaya sa loob na lang kami kumain. para mas mabilis kc ang haba ng pila sa labas. saka parang walang bakanteng upuan. sabi ko sa Tokyo-Tokyo na lang kami...dun kami bumagsak.
Andaming pa ngang bakanteng stalls sa loob. Ito hagdan na ito hindi pa rin fully-furnished:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p0af14d970ecbf570e61278d4673222fa/f50f4199.jpg

To Mhe-Ann:

You're my heroine! You make me feel like I'm there and you are one of those on this board that help those that can't be there to be informed about projects! Thank you!

i commend u for sharing us those photos mhe..by the way, where is market market located? what makes market market different from other malls? (mas madaming sale?) hehe....wish to visit it this summer :)

huh? what did I do? :?: I'm not that informative compared with other forumers here. most of the time nakikigulo lang ako dito. :D

Pictures of Gateway Mall from its website http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph

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Thomasian,

I tried taking pics of the Gateway Mall but I asked permission first from the guards so I was turned down but anyway the mall certainly looked nice and I like the well lit air conditioned 4 ATM machines with guards on sight they have by the Purple Line of the elevated train system.

Jon

How come you weren't allowed? You're a tourist visiting a mall, which looks nice and is picture-worthy:D

Sekyu's really know a lot don't they

So saan kayo kumain? Sa loob o sa labas?

The cool people eat outside. Hehehe.

I'm not eating oysters in Market! Market! ever again. Got food poisoning. ich.

Oh oysters. Did you have them raw? That's the thing with oysters. The only places I'd trust for eating oysters are the 4-5 star hotels. At least at 5 star hotels I feel I can hold somebody accountable for my health. Especially if I eat raw oysters.

I chowed down on oysters at the Mandarin. They even told us which part of the Philippines the oysters were from.

they were cooked. and when I threw 'em up, some of them were orange, meaning they put tahong in the oyster shells... how sad.

Kayo ako walang weird food na kinakain sa mga restaurants.:D To play it safe I find Jollibee. or KFC.



okay maybe KFC's not safe. Just Jollibee then

nice shots of Market! Market!, mhe-ann!! hehe! thanks for posting them...!

Market! Market! looks very city center-ish. haha! I dunno why... probably cuz of those little colored "tent" things (what is it they call those?) outside. and all the fountains. doesn't look like a high-end mall though... but that doesn't have to mean it's not nice.

oh... sweet Gateway pictures too..!! haha!! the garden looks quite good now! and some parts look even better than the renderings... I actually thought some of them were renderings at first.

Thomasian,

I tried taking pics of the Gateway Mall but I asked permission first from the guards so I was turned down but anyway the mall certainly looked nice and I like the well lit air conditioned 4 ATM machines with guards on sight they have by the Purple Line of the elevated train system.

Jon

Weird, they never allowed you to take pictures.

If you noticed, some of my pictures of gateway at the first pages of this thread have guards on them.
Oh well, I guess they're not aware that I'm taking pictures because it's my PDA that I'm using to take pics.

Weird, they never allowed you to take pictures.

If you noticed, some of my pictures of gateway at the first pages of this thread have guards on them.
Oh well, I guess they're not aware that I'm taking pictures because it's my PDA that I'm using to take pics.

ru using the imate jam to take pics

Nope, it's a palmOne Zire72 w/ a 1.2mp cam.

nice shots of Market! Market!, mhe-ann!! hehe! thanks for posting them...!

Market! Market! looks very city center-ish. haha! I dunno why... probably cuz of those little colored "tent" things (what is it they call those?) outside. and all the fountains. doesn't look like a high-end mall though... but that doesn't have to mean it's not nice.



Market! Market! is one plain looking mall, a poor copy of Glorietta. Worse is the crowd that goes there. The first(& last time) I went there last December 2004 I saw people wearing shorts, slippers and the jobless, pickpocket type folks who sit around watching, staring at you just like the way those locals in Boracay do when they watch foreigners strolling by.

Market! Market! is one plain looking mall, a poor copy of Glorietta. Worse is the crowd that goes there. The first(& last time) I went there last December 2004 I saw people wearing shorts, slippers and the jobless, pickpocket type folks who sit around watching, staring at you just like the way those locals in Boracay do when they watch foreigners strolling by.
I maybe one of them.

Guess what this mall is, based on its "new" color.

http://www.geocities.com/csbrocks_hunter/Photo_022805_001x.jpg

er... Megamall? it's gotta be one of them SM malls, suddenly they discovered they had a problem differencing one from the other, minus the name:D

Market! Market! is one plain looking mall, a poor copy of Glorietta. Worse is the crowd that goes there. The first(& last time) I went there last December 2004 I saw people wearing shorts, slippers and the jobless, pickpocket type folks who sit around watching, staring at you just like the way those locals in Boracay do when they watch foreigners strolling by.

I'm sorry, but I find this to be a very classist statement. Sounds kinda like the stuff Kendra on the Amazing Race would spew. Even poor people have a right to exist and hang out in malls you know. And those "locals" are fellow Filipinos who have every right to stare at foreigners and think what they want.

I'm sorry, but I find this to be a very classist statement. Sounds kinda like the stuff Kendra on the Amazing Race would spew. Even poor people have a right to exist and hang out in malls you know. And those "locals" are fellow Filipinos who have every right to stare at foreigners and think what they want.

Yes, everybody has a the right to hang out in the malls, regardless of social status, background, etc. And I am not saying we should ban them. I am simply pointing out the fact of what is actually going on out there from a point of view of a foreigner or tourist. I am speaking from experience and I'm sure it's the same with other tourists who go there.

If you were offended with that, well, it's probably because you look like a plain looking filipino yourself. Why don't you go and observe how these foreigners and tourists react if stared upon by the locals, feeling like the are being followed and targetted, hanging on tightly to their purses, uncomfortable and scared shit? What would you feel if you were that tourist? It's a common phenomena in most Malls, resorts, tourists areas in the Philippines and Market! Market! is no exception.

The fact that Market! Market! is in Taguig, which obviously is still a poor municipality is the main reason why they have such crowd. It is completely different with Glorietta which is surrounded by rich suburbs thus the crowds are different.

paranoia.

Guess what this mall is, based on its "new" color.

http://www.geocities.com/csbrocks_hunter/Photo_022805_001x.jpg
lianas?

I'm sorry, but I find this to be a very classist statement. Sounds kinda like the stuff Kendra on the Amazing Race would spew. Even poor people have a right to exist and hang out in malls you know. And those "locals" are fellow Filipinos who have every right to stare at foreigners and think what they want.
i don't think it's proper for someone to stare at someone........what would you feel if someone did it to you

Market! Market! is one plain looking mall, a poor copy of Glorietta. Worse is the crowd that goes there. The first(& last time) I went there last December 2004 I saw people wearing shorts, slippers and the jobless, pickpocket type folks who sit around watching, staring at you just like the way those locals in Boracay do when they watch foreigners strolling by.

I find the crowd at Eastwood the same way, they stare. I cant help but notice everytime I walk by someone is arching over staring. Too bad I didnt trip or slip otherwise the chocolate shake Im holding would have ended on their heads. Hehehe.

Of all the gimmick places in Metro Manila, I like Malate and Baywalk the best, bohemian and people are down to earth. They dont care what you wear or who you are.

BTW your comment is too elitist.

Pearl of the Orient Seas - The Philippines (http://community.webshots.com/user/jbkayaker12)

Jon

I guess we're naturally usi? Rich or poor we're all curious?

I think it's funny because since most of us are Filipinos on this board, that some would still have to question some characteristics of their own people. Staring is a Filipino trait, especially back in the Philippines where it'll naturally be noticeable since it is the Philippines anyways. Filipinos stare out of curiousity or just being bored or observant, not out of rudeness.

i never would like it to be stared by someone, much more by many out of their curiousity, so i refrain myself doing it w/ others..

btw, market market seemed well advertized that i thought it is comparable to glorietta.. well, guess i'm wrong..

Market! Market!'s exterior looks pretty nice, but I have to agree the interior is nothing special. maybe they can spruce it up later. about the people and the lower-class market that some people say it currently caters to, I think that's only because of the wet market they put in it...

what is that bright orange mall?? haha!! I'm thinking it's that Robinsons Pioneer mall (what's the name again?)... but it could also be an SM or something.

I think it's funny because since most of us are Filipinos on this board, that some would still have to question some characteristics of their own people. Staring is a Filipino trait, especially back in the Philippines where it'll naturally be noticeable since it is the Philippines anyways. Filipinos stare out of curiousity or just being bored or observant, not out of rudeness.

Staring is a filipino trait, and it's a bad trait filipinos are much better doing without! A miserable spanish colonial leftover like their much maligned siesta. Your naivity and inexperience is apparent, indeed. Obviously you enjoy being stared upon by a bunch of mean-looking, slipper clad goons who admire your Gucci lenses or Leica camera?? Oh, I see what you mean, they are just being observant and know how to appreciate beautiful, expensive things. I reckon the last time you went for a stroll somewhere you were carrying your kodak instamatic. Never do that, otherwise snatchers and pickpockets may sue you for lack of class and wasting their time.

Yes, everybody has a the right to hang out in the malls, regardless of social status, background, etc. And I am not saying we should ban them. I am simply pointing out the fact of what is actually going on out there from a point of view of a foreigner or tourist. I am speaking from experience and I'm sure it's the same with other tourists who go there.

If you were offended with that, well, it's probably because you look like a plain looking filipino yourself. Why don't you go and observe how these foreigners and tourists react if stared upon by the locals, feeling like the are being followed and targetted, hanging on tightly to their purses, uncomfortable and scared shit? What would you feel if you were that tourist? It's a common phenomena in most Malls, resorts, tourists areas in the Philippines and Market! Market! is no exception.

The fact that Market! Market! is in Taguig, which obviously is still a poor municipality is the main reason why they have such crowd. It is completely different with Glorietta which is surrounded by rich suburbs thus the crowds are different.


I think the other members on this board have already adequately responded to your quite alarmingly prejudiced previous statement, but this new post of yours is really something else. Gee, questioning another forumer's appearance to bolster your argument, now THAT's rich.

No, I wasn't personally offended, but I was quite disheartened to see how much small-minded bourgeoisie sensibilities cloud the mentalities of educated, middle-to-upper class 21st century fiilipinos who should definitely know and have been brought up better than to think this way. Or at the very least, you do have a right to think it, but to actually trumpet it out loud shows a distinct lack of social awareness.

As to the staring thing, of course some people might feel uncomfortable being stared at. That's human nature. And it doesn't just happen here in the Philippines, travel to any relatively untouristed spot in the world and you'll be greeted by stares. What I'm saying is that locals have as much right to stare at the tourists, as the tourists have a right to feel uncomfortable about it. Neither is in a position of superiority relative to the other.

And how many tourists and foreigners are really that paranoid? I'm sure some are, but the overwhelming majority, and I've spoken to very many, mind very little. In fact, it often turns out that they are bothered by the "poor, staring, masses" much less than some Pinoys are.

Guess what this mall is, based on its "new" color.

http://www.geocities.com/csbrocks_hunter/Photo_022805_001x.jpg
Ok, enough guessing.
It's SM City Sta Mesa (SM Centerpoint) and it's slowly becoming a big orange box. I mean have you ever seen an orange SM before?
I find it really unusual for an SM mall.

Anyway, here's the other pictures.

02.13.05
http://www.geocities.com/a_ofngol/Photo_021305_001x.jpg

02.26.05
http://www.geocities.com/a_ofngol/Photo_022605_007x.jpg

02.26.05
http://www.geocities.com/a_ofngol/Photo_022605_009x.jpg

12.05.04
http://www.geocities.com/a_ofngol/Photo_120504_001x.jpg

12.05.04 - The new tiles are the one on the left, not much difference though compared to the old one.
http://www.geocities.com/a_ofngol/Photo_120504_003x.jpg

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This is how it looks like before.
http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/SecImg1_malls_centerpoint1.jpg

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As for the "staring" topic, I think there's more than enough comments so I'd rather not post mine.
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As to the staring thing, of course some people might feel uncomfortable being stared at. That's human nature. And it doesn't just happen here in the Philippines, travel to any relatively untouristed spot in the world and you'll be greeted by stares. What I'm saying is that locals have as much right to stare at the tourists, as the tourists have a right to feel uncomfortable about it. Neither is in a position of superiority relative to the other.

And how many tourists and foreigners are really that paranoid? I'm sure some are, but the overwhelming majority, and I've spoken to very many, mind very little. In fact, it often turns out that they are bothered by the "poor, staring, masses" much less than some Pinoys are.

JudeD, please read my last post.. . and there is nothing prejudiced about my previous statements. Further to that, let me reitirate, staring is just plain rude! There is a big difference between appreciative look and rude staring. If you think appreciative staring is OK until the object becomes uncomfortable then you have a big problem.

And those "locals" are fellow Filipinos who have every right to stare at foreigners and think what they want.

More often, people just continue to stare even after noting the discomfort of their subject. That is a warped human nature you are trying to espouse here, is totally unacceptable in this modern day and age.

oh, that SM Centerpoint..never could i've guess it's it.. well, really is time for some change..but turning it like an orange box..hehehe.. cguro nga so to invite more people to come in..mukha na kasing napag-iwanan na from other SM outlets..

btw, that SM near Macapagal (not sure) basta ung matatanaw mo going to airport, has it opened na ba?

I don't see anything wrong in staring, especially if its something new, different, etc. You're in a foreign country (ie Philippines) so really ways of life, culture compared to other Western countries is different. Here in Australia, thongs (or what we call "tsinelas) is very much accepted in malls and shopping centres. They don't believe that going outdoors means being covered with clothing, considering the weather we have most of the year.

Anyyways, better red box than ass-boring box.

I think the staring business isn't a big problem. However, prejudiced views based on observations of "social status" and residential location is extremely disturbing and only shows how ignorant the people who have those views are. I guess people who do not live in Taguig can make these value judgements. Talk about shameful colonial leftovers. I'll let this statement stand at that. Lest we get into more of a flame war, let's talk about the orange mall.

Re: Orange Mall.

A shoebox in any other color is still a shoebox. I do prefer more natural colored shoeboxes, though.

What's a natural coloured shoebox? ie brown?

Sometimes I like flashy colours to attract my attention to the shoebox which leads to the shoe itself, and of course you need the logo;) I don't want to buy no logo shoes.

I guess those advertisement and billboards which look like it will be put up, would lessen the attention on the orange.

JudeD, please read my last post.. . and there is nothing prejudiced about my previous statements. Further to that, let me reitirate, staring is just plain rude! There is a big difference between appreciative look and rude staring. If you think appreciative staring is OK until the object becomes uncomfortable then you have a big problem.

More often, people just continue to stare even after noting the discomfort of their subject. That is a warped human nature you are trying to espouse here, is totally unacceptable in this modern day and age.

Yes, I've read your posts, and not just that, I've read into them. And it doesn't take an advanced degree or ESP to be able to parse the insidiously elitist notions found within. They're quite transparent.

Anyway, just be aware that over in this forum, not everybody is just going to roll over and agree with all of your opinions. We will tolerate them, but we'll speak up when we don't like them. Lots of smart, verbose, educated, and strong-willed people here who won't back down from a debate.

I believe that your comments struck a chord here because they can be perceived as somewhat anti-Filipino. And if there's one thing that ties this forum together, it's that we're all very patriotic. And if by your statements you bash and marginalize poor, dirty, and rough Filipinos, you're still bashing and marginalizing our fellow citizens, and it's quite difficult to let that slide.

If there's one thing that's hard to tolerate it's intolerance.


I think the staring business isn't a big problem. However, prejudiced views based on observations of "social status" and residential location is extremely disturbing and only shows how ignorant the people who have those views are. I guess people who do not live in Taguig can make these value judgements. Talk about shameful colonial leftovers. I'll let this statement stand at that.

Hear, hear!


As for shoebox-shaped malls. I remember somebody saying before that the reason why SM kept building shoebox-shaped malls is because they started out as SHOEmart after all.

What's a natural coloured shoebox? ie brown?

and of course you need the logo;) I don't want to buy no logo shoes.


Brand conscious now aren't we? ;)

I liked the older color. I think they could've made it look cooler by using ornamental aluminum or steel, granite and glass. These materials make old structures look more current. A shade of bright paint just makes old structures look a brighter shade of old.

In Sta. Mesa, though on Araneta Ave, I guess the bright orange will make Centerpoint stand out more against the funeral parlors that surround it.

I like to buy what I inteded to buy...:D

SM are smart-bastards. Their malls will now look better, but if you look at it, we could have probably done the same to our houses (or apartment blocks, should we want to get booted out)

just be aware that over in this forum, not everybody is just going to roll over and agree with all of your opinions. We will tolerate them, but we'll speak up when we don't like them. Lots of smart, verbose, educated, and strong-willed people here who won't back down from a debate.



Who says that I seek the approval of everybody here? People have their own views and they are free to speak up to what they perceive is right or wrong. And I can see that based on the intelligent, honest contributions of our fellow forumers here. However the last thing we need are people like you who in your own words, pretend to be smart, verbose, educated sanamagans.

This is one good thing about forums, people are able to present their views on a particular subject. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, popular or otherwise. Some people may disagree, some may not. The objective is to give everybody the opportunity to ponder on a statement and present their counter views if they think it contradicts to their principles. Nontheless, some people are quite hopeless in their stance, aggressively speaking up despite the obvious display of lack of knowledge on the subject or simply acting on behalf of their alter-ego for the thrill of becoming the devils advocate.

look who's talking...

haaayyy... please stop this. :sleepy:

So Mhe-Ann, that picture of the Figaro in the other thread? Is it part of a mall in Alabang or Munti?

It's not a part of a mall or a gasoline station. It's located in Sucat (hhmm, I think it's Sucat). :D

Prejudice people are paranoid. They will never find happiness and peace.

How big will the mall along Roces and Quezon Ave bu any idea anyone?

I never knew there'd be a mall there. Maybe its just a strip mall.

I will tolerate this discussion/debate for now, since it hasnt reached a point to where i have to take action. But please keep in mind that this is still a thread regarding malls;) You may continue with that debate, since it is "displaying your own opinions" but please do not go to the level of attacking each other (such as saying that someone is a plain looking Filipino).

For the record, i do tend to agree with JudeD and boybaha in this issue as Market Market is a public mall. It is even targeted at the "lower socio-economic class", if you will, with its market style concept. Staring does make people uncomfortable, but its general human nature as it is not only "poor" people that do it. And besides, people who wear shorts and slippers doesnt necessarily mean they are jobless and "pickpocket" type people. It could just be their style. And Taguig (Market Market's location) is not a "poor person" city, it is actually near very wealthy residential (Forbes, Dasmarinas, BGC condos) and institutional (ISM, Makati offices) establishments. And besides, BGC will grow to becoming the country's premier CBD;) But thats besides the point because even if it is considered a "poor city" what should that implicate? Poorer people are still humans and our fellow countrymen. They deserve every bit of respect as we give to richer people. In fact, we should not stereotype against them as that only leads to more problems...we need to help them.

I never would have thought the orange mall would be an SM. Its good that they are renovating a lot of the older SM malls such as Centerpoint. I'm alright with SM's shoe box style design (afterall, SM originally stands for Shoe Mart)...but its good that they are branching out of the box design lately.

Continuing with the topic, I passed by Megamall last Monday and the Façade is starting to look like that of SM Makati. I just wish that SM would give their malls more character when renovating so as to set them apart from one another even if they belong to a chain of malls.

ewan ko ba... when i go to a mall, i often wear shorts & slippers. basta masaya ako kahit mahirap ang buhay. but one thing i notice, those mukhang mahirap ay syang bumubili & pays in cash. no offense ha.

@ greyx. hahaha. shoebox indeed. all SMs nationwide look like shoeboxes (excl baguio).

Continuing with the topic, I passed by Megamall last Monday and the Façade is starting to look like that of SM Makati. I just wish that SM would give their malls more character when renovating so as to set them apart from one another even if they belong to a chain of malls.

well again smart-bastards, one new design we all praise them, then we see they're all the same;) :cheers:

hey sleepie, slippers and shorts doesn't mean you'll look poor. Unfortunately that's the general filipino conception. Anyone who's visited Australia know that teens, or sometimes just the younger folks wear "thongs" and shorts in their chill out spots. :yes:

look who's talking...

Mismo!

Some people can't even realize when they're already hopelessly outgunned. And also for the record, I'm one of the few people here who actually uses my real name in my profile.

Anyway, with the Megamall renovation, I was hoping that they would include at least some improvements to the pedestrian routes coming from either the Ortigas or Shaw stations, but unless they have more stuff on their drawing boards it doesn't look like that strip of malls along Edsa is going to be pedestrian-friendly any time soon. They should really spruce up that stretch of Edsa, make it more Orchard or Nathan Road-ish, instead of just a clogged loading and unloading zone. The side of Shangri-la mall facing Edsa with those shops and the nice sidewalk is a good start. SM should construct something analogous.

Hoy mga people wag nyo naman tularan yong mga indian at pakistani na forumer na walang ginawa kundi awayin ang isat-isa at puro personalan ang usapan. Di hamak naman na mas mabango ang ugali natin sa kanila kaya let us all behave. yon lang.

^ I agree...getting to Megamall from the Shaw station is not easy. They should make a better connection somewhere. And improve the sidewalks.

I also agree with Aaron, i wish they made the SM malls more individualized.

well again smart-bastards, one new design we all praise them, then we see they're all the same;) :cheers:

hey sleepie, slippers and shorts doesn't mean you'll look poor. Unfortunately that's the general filipino conception. Anyone who's visited Australia know that teens, or sometimes just the younger folks wear "thongs" and shorts in their chill out spots. :yes:

someone mentioned "shorts, slippers & jobless... pickpocket" kc.

well, i respect their opinion. mahirap nga ang buhay dito.

big thanks to malls... kahit papaano, pinarerelax ang buhay.

^ I agree...getting to Megamall from the Shaw station is not easy. They should make a better connection somewhere. And improve the sidewalks.

I also agree with Aaron, i wish they made the SM malls more individualized.

If you are going to megamall do not use the Shaw station but use the Ortigas Station instead because it is nearer to the sm megamall. There is a CD store which has a door outside megamall you may use it when entering inside the megamall. it is located near the parking lot along EDSA

If you are going to megamall do not use the Shaw station but use the Ortigas Station instead because it is nearer to the sm megamall. There is a CD store which has a door outside megamall you may use it when entering inside the megamall. it is located near the parking lot along EDSA

It's not a CD store, it's actually Powerbooks, a bookstore owned also by National. It's their higher-end brand.

If we're all talking about the dress code to go shopping....well I go to the mall in flip-flops (tsinelas), shorts and a tank-top (on scorching hot Florida summer days), or even in an unironed shirt! I wear what I'm comfortable in not for the intent that I want everyone to look at me and fish for compliments as a stroll from shop to shop. Besides, it's not the appearance that matters to the shop employees, it's how much you'll spend in their store! :D

This talk reminds me of this woman I know who was advising this European guy not to go to Quiapo because "only poor people go there and you can only buy cheap things there". The European, no stranger to rough travel, was looking for camera equipment and other electronics. She had obviously never gone through the shops along Hidalgo and Raon where some of the merchandise can be worth hundreds of thousands of pesos and that tank-topped, be-slippered man browsing alongside you could just be a millionaire (many Binondo Chinese shop in this area, and a lot of them have at least a couple of million in the bank, though you might not know it based on what they wear to shop). The woman also suggested to the European guy that he should just go to Greenhills to shop for what he was looking for. Fortunately I was able to tell the man in time that he might have a difficult time finding what he needed in Greenhills (and at a good price), particularly since at the time a lot of the electronics shops that used to be in Virra Mall were either closed or in the process of relocating. I like Greenhills too, but for cameras and electronics you definitely won't find the same smorgasbord of choices and prices that Hidalgo and Raon present.

Jude, that's a good story.

For the record, tsinelas is acceptable dress code in California too-- which is something I had a hard time getting used to since I come from a very cold part of the US (the northeast) where you only see tsinelas in the summer. But I've taken to this comfortable outdoor habit as well. They're very fashionable.

I just got annoyed because when I bought my favorite pair of tsinelas, they were on sale for $5.00. Sale price pa! I know that in the Philippines, you can get a pair for less than $1!

I have to confess that I sometimes get annoyed by sandos-- but understand this situation. I was flying back to Manila last January in economy class and the guy sitting next to me was wearing a sando. What I didn't like about it was that he was on the large side and the sando was one of those with the extremely large arm holes. And because he had um--- sagging pectorals, his nipples were so close to my arms... I don't know. I just didn't like that idea. This was one of the first times when I didn't mind letting the guy take the armrest for the entire trip.

That was a bit OT.

California and Florida basically have the same clothing styles, "casual comfort" is what I call it. I sometimes come into the office on "Dress-down Fridays" with jeans (no shorts allowed), a T-shirt and sandals or flip-flops. Heck! I can even get away with that fashion ensemble when I go to church! :D

i had my pair of tsinelas (Islander) shipped from pinas. they're better than some of the ones they have here in the states. cheaper pa hehe:D

anyway, hayan OT na talaga.

^ I agree...getting to Megamall from the Shaw station is not easy. They should make a better connection somewhere. And improve the sidewalks.

I also agree with Aaron, i wish they made the SM malls more individualized.

u should not get off the shaw station if ur going straight to the megamall, its one entrance at the left end is much closer to ortigas mrt station :)

guys, since most of u are well acquianted w/ manila's shopping malls.. where can i go shopping w/ greatest discounts offered.. a sort of mga pasalubong stuffs, even clothings.. and some kids' stuffs... i wish to go in one place only since i hate the traffic in manila and i only have a day to do the shopping..and i'll be bringing my son, so it need to be a mall not the divisoria type hehe (in fairness, to max ang tawad mo d2).. any suggestion pls..

Simply:
2 choices I can think of.
1) Greenhills Shopping Center. If there is a tiangge, you're in luck.
2) Divisoria itself. Go to the so called 168 Mall near Tutuban. Short of going through the Divisoria streets themselves, the 168 Mall is where you can max out the tawad. It's nice, orderly, airconditioned, has relatively clean restrooms, and above all, everything can be had at wholesale prices. :)

But if it's too hard to go to the heart of Manila, Greenhills Shopping Center will do.

BTW, I find 168 Mall to be more orderly than the tiangge in Greenhills. I think it's ok to bring your son because it's not as crowded and not as tight as Greenhills.

thanks..i'll remember that one.. hindi ba mahirap ang parking jan sa 168?

Hmm. There is an outdoor parking lot (attended). Mahirap lang pumasok sa kalooblooban ng Maynila. I think it's on Doroteo Jose Street.

Btw isn't it time to lock this one up guys?

Congratulations to this thread, and to those who eagerly post and discuss here. Now there will be a "Mega Metro Malls III". It really reflects our love of malls, indoor or outdoor.

Btw isn't it time to lock this one up guys?



I second the motion. :)

i, i too :) kept coming back what's new in this forum..lol

er.. it's not for reasons a thread usually is locked. It's because it's way past 500 posts, I'm not sure if you're aware of that. :)

I don't see anything wrong in staring, especially if its something new, different, etc. You're in a foreign country (ie Philippines) so really ways of life, culture compared to other Western countries is different.


Looking or glancing at someone discreetly is different from staring intently most especially staring obviously. Staring no matter who is doing it and where it is being done is plain rude.

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Jon

guess you're right. then again what do you consider "staring"? what if this person one/many stare at is rude him/herself?:?

anyways it's an irrelevant topic.

I just went to a briefing of the new Ayala mall being planned for North Triangle.

Ground breaking is next month.

Opening is 2007 prob 2nd quarter.

Over 100,000 sq.m. of which their anchor Landmark issupposedly putting up a a big 60,000sq.m. mall (sounds too big actually).

Mall will be A.B and upper C crowd , in other words they will not compete headtohead with SM City. (takot lang nila)

Will be a mixture of Regional Shopping (mid to high end) and Lifestyle, geared for young crowd. 24 below. They look at Gateway as their primary competitor.

Will it be part of the "Ayala Malls" brand?
Kasi Market! Market! is not placed under the Ayala Malls brand maybe because it's targeting the CDE crowd.

Uhhmm... another question, will it be using Greenbelt and ATC as models for its design with the park-like or town center like atmosphere and Al Fresco dining establishments?

No name yet, but they will associate it with ayala , just not sure if they may want people confused with another ayala center type name kasi afew stops away is Ayala center itself (kapangalan pa ng stop)

Yes to the 2nd question. they've found it to be what people want in a lifestyle center kind of place. though it will probably have less open space and more covered due to it's proximity (or rather lack of proximity to a park like greenbelt)

by the way they also said that Greenbelt 5 where the steel carpark is plus the building of max will be starting this year as well.

:cheers1: Wow, Greenbelt 5... nice to know that it will be constructed this year, I never thought there's such demand for high-end retail space considering that Greenbelt 3 & 4 already has a lot.

I guess it's about time that they demolish that steel parking because it's an eyesore, it looks very out of place in that area filled with greens.

BTW, will GB5 be larger than GB4, how many stories?
...and can you drop some names of the prospective tenants there if you know any.

GB5 will be similar in structure in and height to gb4. Probably 3 to 4 levels daw. tenant mix will be closer to traditional retail than gb3 and 2 which are lifestyle (read food) oriented. They still haven't done a final decision and are accepting proposals. They would prefer newer unique stores.

[QUOTE=renell] what if this person one/many stare at is rude him/herself?:?

Hahahaha I'll definitely end this IRRELEVANT topic.

Jon

Thanks for the info about GB5 and the North Triangle...im looking forward to those projects:)

The third thread of the mall series...post away!

Part I: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=160063
Part II: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=187493

03.03.05
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Backside of Megamall... facing St. Francis st.

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yepeeeee!!! eehhrmm..sorry po, i'll behave now.. just can't hold my emotions.. finally MEGA METRO MALL!!! (ay! lumabas ata pagka corny ko.. :bash: ) hehe..

@boybaha, is there any stall in 168 mall that sells quality/affordable digital cams?

simply me, for the best deals on digital cameras go to Watsons Camera Store along Hidalgo St. in Quiapo, in front of SM Quiapo. I've been buying most of my digital camera supplies (memory cards, batteries) from them for years and have never seen another store with better prices.

@boybaha, is there any stall in 168 mall that sells quality/affordable digital cams?

thank you. i know pasalubong mo yan sakin. how sweet! ok na yung 3up megapixel na cam. dont 4get dvds rin yung mga hard to find. il give u a list.

Thanks for the pics, Aaron:) Megamall looks quite different now.

Greenhills has some shops that sell affordable digital camera equipment. Thats where i buy my memory cards. I havent been to the one in Quiapo, i would imagine that the prices there would be pretty low.

Once you've been to Quiapo, you'll realize that the prices of cameras and memory cards at Greenhills and the other malls are all a big joke!

I have seen SM Mega Mall on the outside the last 3 times I've visited Metro Manila while riding the MRT and yet I still have to set foot inside.Hhehehe. I have seen Robinsons 3 years ago after having a get together at the Manila Galleria ballroom with relatives. Its a huge mall as well.

I'll try to post some pics of Greenbelt this weekend. The park in front is really nice.

Pearl of the Orient Seas - The Philippines (http://community.webshots.com/user/jbkayaker12)

Jon

168 Mall is for cheapie cheapie stuff-- wholesale clothing and toys, designer knock-offs, fake guns, kitchenware, etc. Divisoria-in-a-mall kind of things. I wouldn't go there if I wanted real name brand things and high-peso merchandise like digital cameras. I thought you meant pasalubongs like Philippine goods and things. For the more high-end stuff, if you want to go to a mall, I'd go to Greenhills. It's a one-stop-shop for low and high end goods.

@boybaha, i do need those stuffs from 168 too while i have no choice but to take another stride towards Watsons (thanks JudeD :) ) and if not because of this man here..hehe

@sleepy, lakas talaga ng pang-amoy mo.. ok list all u wish but mind u 10T lang budget ko for u..ok..

Magkakilala ba kayo ni Sleepy simply? Magkapatid?

parang nabasa ko dun sa samahan thread na business partners ata sila. :?:
anyway, thanks for the pics @thomasian.

oo nga, business-related something. basta related:D

hmm... could perhaps this new Megamall contraption-which-isn't-used-except-to-look-good be actually for more advertisement area?:?

hmm... could perhaps this new Megamall contraption-which-isn't-used-except-to-look-good be actually for more advertisement area?:?

hahaha!! looks like it. especially with that huge Dockers ad. but at least it does actually "look good" now. hehehe! :D or at least better than the dirty white walls it used to have. but wait, those shots are from the back... didn't they already have the colorful little rectangles for the restaurant logos before? or is this a different part of the kilometer-long building?

oh, haha... I wonder how Megamall ranks in Asia now in terms of size.

there's one article in inquirer that says that the huge derelict lot at quezon ave near the pantranco area is going to be another robinsons mall

Greenbelt

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Nice Greenbelt pics. :okay:

wow!! nice shots, jon!! thanks for putting them up... there haven't been many recent pictures of Greenbelt the past months... still looking good as ever.

that first shot is funny. I thought that pinkish tower was sticking out of the top of the new Ayala Museum. haha! it's not, right...?

that pinkish tower is Makati Shangri-la Hotel.


wow!! nice shots, jon!! thanks for putting them up... there haven't been many recent pictures of Greenbelt the past months... still looking good as ever.

that first shot is funny. I thought that pinkish tower was sticking out of the top of the new Ayala Museum. haha! it's not, right...?

thanks for the pics. galing!

:)

Jon

Hi peeps! Anyone here who knows where I could buy Gap stuff? Preferably in the manila, makati or qc. I'm sick and tired of asking my aunt abroad to buy for me, kakahiya na. Tnx anyway!

Great GB pictures:okay:

GAP? You can buy "pirated" GAP clothing in Greenhills:D Arent there GAP shops in the Ayala malls?

@jon..cool greenbelt pics :)


@ boybaha: sort of magkapatid..sa paniniwala at negosyo :) sleepy calls me "ate" kasi nga matanda ako sa kanya..hehe :)

You can get some Gap, Old Navy and Banana Rep. stuff at In Style in Glorietta 3.
In Style also has other branches I'm not just sure where.

You can get some Gap, Old Navy and Banana Rep. stuff at In Style in Glorietta 3.
In Style also has other branches I'm not just sure where.

How much are those Old Navy shirts in the Philippines? Here it cost around 10.00 dollars for a basic tshirt and the long sleeve shirts for around a couple dollars more. I always bring Old Navy shirts as gifts for my cousins, they like it. Personally speaking I dont wear them, I just wear plain white shirt without logos most of the time but when I visit the Philippines I buy Tshirts with Philippine tourist scenes like Canyon Woods, Caleruega, Puerto Galera......and San Sebastian of course and I wear them proudly :)

Jon

GAP and Old Navy clothing are treated (here in the US at least) as everyday wear. Banana Republic is more upscale and worn to casual or semi-formal events.

the originals are expensive by phil standard one shirt could run a couple of thousands pesos i believe

GAP and Old Navy clothing are treated (here in the US at least) as everyday wear. Banana Republic is more upscale and worn to casual or semi-formal events.

I still have my old GAP denim jacket darker shade of khaki color, I bought it sometime in 1990 and I still wear it to this day. Definitely vintage now and still nice. :)

Jon

How much are those Old Navy shirts in the Philippines? Here it cost around 10.00 dollars for a basic tshirt and the long sleeve shirts for around a couple dollars more. I always bring Old Navy shirts as gifts for my cousins, they like it. Personally speaking I dont wear them, I just wear plain white shirt without logos most of the time but when I visit the Philippines I buy Tshirts with Philippine tourist scenes like Canyon Woods, Caleruega, Puerto Galera......and San Sebastian of course and I wear them proudly :)

Jon

Wow, you've been to Caleruega. I like that place. We had retreat there twice.

the originals are expensive by phil standard one shirt could run a couple of thousands pesos i believe

For a (cr)Gap? :bash:

Hey, Mr. Bustero
Do you have more updates about the Ayala North Triangle Mall?
Floor area? ...and the cost of building.

thanks. :)

Aaron

guys i passed by the north avenue station of the MRT yesterday, and i saw that they were constructing an MRT depot in the area.. i was also trying to look for signs of the planned north triangle mall.. i cant seem to find it..

shangri la plaza is currently having two major "construction/renovation"

* TECHNO HUB at the foodcourt area where the tech shops from the 6th will be moving
* GOURMET WALK extension in the 6th floor located fin the former tech shops.

NOthing really new, from what I remember it's a large mall over 100,000 sq.m. (but the whole area is also quite large up to 13 hectares if my memory is right).I remember them saying the Landmark Dept. store which is their anchor there will be 60,000 sq.m. (or maybe they just wanted to excite the retailers so they will open stores there.)

Their construction cost will be normal probably at around 14t to 15 t as this is what they would shoot for. Many people think Ayala spends a lot but professionals who look closely realize that they are matipid for many things e.g. stamped concrete on Greenbelt 3. I remember having a conversation with them once and telling them the much bandied around figure that SM was building around 11,000 per sq.m. and they had nervous laughter saying it was not possble! Of course SM and Ayala operate differently with a huge difference in overhead but they want to know how SM builds it at that price (assuming it is true).

shangri la plaza is currently having two major "construction/renovation"

* TECHNO HUB at the foodcourt area where the tech shops from the 6th will be moving
* GOURMET WALK extension in the 6th floor located fin the former tech shops.

Hindi talaga mapakali sa mall nila ang Shangri-la, matapos nilang pagsamasamahin sa 6th lahat ng computer shops ililipat naman nila ngayon sa foodcourt area.

@ Bustero, thanks.

From the ALI website.

ALI increases stake in North Triangle commercial center project

Ayala Land (ALI) recently acquired from the Fil-Estate Group an additional 30.9% stake in the North Triangle Depot Commercial Corporation (NTDCC), increasing ALI’s stake from 15.8% to 46.7%. ALI paid a total consideration of P600.1 million, a portion of which was paid for in shares in two unlisted companies owning developable properties, which shares are valued at approximately P320.1 million.

This move is in recognition of the huge potential of the North Triangle commercial center project and is in line with ALI’s objective of expanding its leasing portfolio to increase recurring income.

The shopping center project is strategically located at the 13-hectare main depot of MRT-3 in Quezon City, an area with heavy pedestrian-traffic. With about 200,000 square meters of leasable area, the mall will commence development within the first half of 2005 and is targeted for completion by 2007.

The article says it has 200,000 sq.m of leasable area? and located on a 13 ha. land (really big). How about the total cost of the project, I think I read somewhere that it costs 5 billion, is it true? Thanks.

Aaron

Gap is pretty much still a good line of clothing and affordable. :)

Wow, you've been to Caleruega. I like that place. We had retreat there twice.

Yeah a very nice place. Sayang I did not stay for long, mas marami pa siguro akong pictures kung nag overnight ako doon. Oh well, there is always next time and will definitely do some hiking.

Jon

Sayang, sana nag-overnight ka dun para ma-experience mo naman lahat ng kababalaghan dun, dami kasing mumu doon eh. :colgate:

yeahh.... I've been to Caleruega too... 4 times already... thrice courtesy of UST... yeah... there are a lot of mistery there... may multo, nagfaflush na toilet... :D but very solemn and serene place... very good for meditation..:D

Hey Paul, one more post to go and you'll have a thousand posts. :horse:
edit: Congratulations, you now have more than 1000 posts :cheers:

Paging Mr. Bustero... Mr. Bustero... please proceed to the customer service of Mega Metro Malls III. :D

Aaron and Pau

RE: mumu; even better, at least mas thrilling hehehe.
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I love nature and I would like to hike as close as possible to the mountains in Caleruega.

Jon

ohh.. I didn't noticed i passed the 1000 mark already.. thanks... :D

wow... I hope we see the construction of the North Triangle Mall soon... hmmm 2005 is a very short time from now..:D

Hi guys, wazzup wazzup at the customer's department.

Congrats to you Pau.

Sayang, sana nag-overnight ka dun para ma-experience mo naman lahat ng kababalaghan dun, dami kasing mumu doon eh. :colgate:
bakit anong bad spirits nagpakita sau? :D :jk:

ting ting ting ting!

"Paging Mr. Bustero... Mr. Bustero... please proceed to the 2nd page of Mega Metro Malls III. I've got a question for you there" :colgate:

ting ting ting ting!

ako.. nakita ko ung pari na multo doon... nandun sa CR ng women's dormitory... dun din ung CR na nagfaflush mag-isa... :D nung first time na retreat namin dun... nagswap ng dorms ung boys at girls.. napunta kami syempre sa girl's dorm... at dun namin naexperience ang kababalaghan... :D ibang event pa ung nainvolve kami sa group ng mga spirit questors doon din.. :D

ako nagpakita samin yung multo na nagko-clone. Yung nanggagaya ng itsura. Kasi on our way to the food hall eh may nakita kaming classmate na pabalik ng dorm, tapos nung nasa food hall na kami eh nakita namin sya dun. Sabi niya at nung iba pang tao eh kanina pa daw siya kumakain doon sa food hall. So ang tanong eh sino yung nakita namin pabalik ng dorm? multo nga.

Nabasa mo ba yung sa dyaryo, sa Libre to be exact, na article tungkol dun sa nagmumultong bride dun sa Chapel? Kasi ang story eh nag-papapicture yung isang magbabarkada doon at wala namang kasal nung araw na 'yon pero ng lumabas na yung picture eh may bride na naka-pose dun sa entrance nung chapel. Kakakilabot talaga. eto yung pic.

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totoo yang pix na yan... friend ng isang officemate ko yung isa sa mga tomasinong yan... actually before pa lumabas sa Inquirer Libre yan ehh.. nakita na namin yang pix na yan..

well.. di naman nakapagtataka na may multo dun... simbahan sa gitna ng liblib na lugar... ang solemn pa ng place na iyan....

Yun din yung sabi sa amin ni Bro. Jude. Tahimik kasi yung lugar kaya pinamumugaran ng mga multo.

Wow, you've been to Caleruega. I like that place. We had retreat there twice.
so where exactly is this famous retreat place?

The article says it has 200,000 sq.m of leasable area? and located on a 13 ha. land (really big). How about the total cost of the project, I think I read somewhere that it costs 5 billion, is it true? Thanks.

I can't say for sure if this is correct as they've not told me , this can probably be verified by their annual report if the 2004 is out already (maybe in a few weeks) . But you can make an intelligent guess?

200,000 sq.m. leasable means high/lo efficiency of .8/.7 or
250,000 sq.m. to 285,714 sq.m. GFA
@ a lo/hi price of 14,000/sq.m. to 18,000/sq.m.
= 3,500,000,000 Pesos to 5,142,852,000 Pesos

CFA should be bigger as wala pang parking to. but at the same time a big chunk of the foundation work is actually done so I guess it evens out.

Still can run higher but I would say the 5 B is pretty close for a project this size.

so where exactly is this famous retreat place?

It's in Brgy. Caylaway, Batulao, Nasugbu, Batangas.

If you can remember, Globe used that chapel in their commercial.
The final scene in the commercial in which those ribbons in the globe commercials first appeared.

@ Bustero, thank you very much for all the information.
I've been waiting for their '04 annual report, ang tagal talaga.

guys singit ko lang base sa tito ko may U/C na mall malapit sa sm north EDSA i think near sa site ng property ng ALI.sm daw ang itinatayo doon hawak kc ng co-office ng tito ko.any comment about this?

I heard SM Prime has bought some land from BCDA recently, its near SM North Edsa. I'll try to search for that news article.

It's in Brgy. Caylaway, Batulao, Nasugbu, Batangas.




lol, thats a little bit too exact:D

Its about time they start working on North Triangle Mall. I am more excited at the fact that it is an commuter hub mall rather than it being a mall:D Its good that Ayala has taken over the project, we expect it to be a high quality Ayala mall then:okay:

SM bought the camp at the back it's about 4 hectares but they're turning it into residential projects.

I have not heard SM expanding North Edsa but it's possible. Perhaps they'll use some of the parking at the back and turn the first floor to arcades.

Kung meron nga lang number yung address ng Caleruega eh nilagay ko na siguro yun.
Parang Number ####, Brgy. Caylaway, Batulao, Nasugbu, Batangas. :D

Actually my cousin is getting married there in April. And I'm the lecter! (As in Hannibal Lecter haha)

Kung meron nga lang number yung address ng Caleruega eh nilagay ko na siguro yun.
Parang Number ####, Brgy. Caylaway, Batulao, Nasugbu, Batangas. :D

Are you interested in the number, I have it. hahahahaahaha

Jon

haha. dun kaya mag-meet mga forumers? hehehe. :jk:

hmmm... pwede.... I'm planning to go there on Easter Sunday.... :D

kung di nyo sure saan yun... its just behind Don Bosco Nasugbu.. :D

yeahh... North Triangle should be built soon.. sobrang sikip kasi sa SM North EDSA... lalo pag Sale

Actually my cousin is getting married there in April. And I'm the lecter! (As in Hannibal Lecter haha)

Dami talagang gustong magpakasal dun, ang ganda kasi nung church eh.

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http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v22/whyte/caleruega2.jpg

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http://tinypic.com/14maeb

at mahal din... P15000 yung church pa lang un.... and that is 4years ago... :D isa yan sa favorite spots ko dito sa atin..:D

anyways... malayo na po tayo sa topic... :D

I guess we can continue the talk about Caleruega in other threads (I just don't know which one).

Anyway, back to the topic.

SM Group to Expand
The Philippine Star - 02/25/05

The Sy Family, majority owners of SM Group
is planning to build two more malls in China
and is considering expanding in other emerging
markets in Asia like Indonesia, Vietnam
and India for continued growth. SM Prime
Holdings’ two new malls are under construction
in China, one in north Xiamen and the
other in Shunde. The expansion will be undertaken
by the Sy family in partnership with
local Chinese companies. Two more malls
will bring to four the total number of SM
owned shopping centers in China. This year,
SM Prime has earmarked P5 billion for the
construction of new malls and acquisition of
real estate properties for future expansion.

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Pang-international na talaga ang SM kahit na medyo generic at recycled yung designs ng mga malls nila.

gawa ako ng thread.. :D

Ok, thanks. Don't forget the pictures.
Anyway, back again to the topic.

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Robinsons Land Reports 19% Hike
in Net Income
The Philippine Star - 02/14/05

Robinsons Land Corporation reported a
19% growth in net income for the first quarter
of its fiscal year ending September 2005,
mainly driven by higher sales from lease operations.
It posted a net income of P302.1
million in the period October to December
2004 compared with only P254.7 million in
the previous level. Gross revenues
amounted to P1.26 billion, 20% higher YoY.
Of the total, 62% came from RLC’s commercial
centers division which saw its sales
going up by 18% to P778.9 million from only
P659.9 million a year earlier. The increase
was attributed to improved rental of space
in Robinsons Galleria and Robinsons Place-
Manila and the opening of new malls such as
Robinsons Supercenter in Cainta, Robinsons
Place-Lipa and Robinsons Place-Dasmariñas.
RLC’s high Rise Buildings division contributed
P290.2 million in revenues, up 33% from
the previous level’s P218.5 million, largely due
to the recognition of realized revenues from
Bloomfields in Novaliches and Robinsons
Place Residence in Manila. Also, lease income
from three of its office buildings – Galleria
Corporate Center, Robinsons-Equitable
Tower and Robinsons Summit Center-Ayala
jumped 29% from P44 million to P56.9 million.
Its Housing and Land Development
Division, through its housing units Robinsons
Homes Inc., and Trion Homes Development
Corp., registered a 34% growth in revenues
from P57.5 million to P77 million due to
higher units sold and project completion.
The hotel division registered gross revenues
of P116.8 million. RLC is targeting to have at
least 30 shopping malls throughout the country
by 2010 or two to three new commercial
centers every year. It now has 17 or 18
malls within the country. The company currently
has five malls operating in Metro Manila,
namely, Robinsons Galleria in Ortigas,
Robinsons Place Ermita, Robinsons Place
Novaliches, Robinsons Gateway Mall in
Mandaluyong and Robinsons Metro East in
Pasig City. The other malls are located in
Cavite, Laguna, Pampanga, Cebu, Iloilo,
Batangas and Cagayan de Oro. RLC is looking
at building more malls in Metro Manila in
the short term. While it has some properties
in Davao and General Santos City, RLC
does not have any immediate plans to construct
a mall in Mindanao.

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The news that a Robinsons mall could be built at Quezon Ave. near Pantranco could be true because the article says they're planning to build more malls in MM in the short-term.

Ok, thanks. Don't forget the pictures.
Anyway, back again to the topic.

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Robinsons Land Reports 19% Hike
in Net Income
The Philippine Star - 02/14/05

Robinsons Land Corporation reported a
19% growth in net income for the first quarter
of its fiscal year ending September 2005,
mainly driven by higher sales from lease operations.
It posted a net income of P302.1
million in the period October to December
2004 compared with only P254.7 million in
the previous level. Gross revenues
amounted to P1.26 billion, 20% higher YoY.
Of the total, 62% came from RLC’s commercial
centers division which saw its sales
going up by 18% to P778.9 million from only
P659.9 million a year earlier. The increase
was attributed to improved rental of space
in Robinsons Galleria and Robinsons Place-
Manila and the opening of new malls such as
Robinsons Supercenter in Cainta, Robinsons
Place-Lipa and Robinsons Place-Dasmariñas.
RLC’s high Rise Buildings division contributed
P290.2 million in revenues, up 33% from
the previous level’s P218.5 million, largely due
to the recognition of realized revenues from
Bloomfields in Novaliches and Robinsons
Place Residence in Manila. Also, lease income
from three of its office buildings – Galleria
Corporate Center, Robinsons-Equitable
Tower and Robinsons Summit Center-Ayala
jumped 29% from P44 million to P56.9 million.
Its Housing and Land Development
Division, through its housing units Robinsons
Homes Inc., and Trion Homes Development
Corp., registered a 34% growth in revenues
from P57.5 million to P77 million due to
higher units sold and project completion.
The hotel division registered gross revenues
of P116.8 million. RLC is targeting to have at
least 30 shopping malls throughout the country
by 2010 or two to three new commercial
centers every year. It now has 17 or 18
malls within the country. The company currently
has five malls operating in Metro Manila,
namely, Robinsons Galleria in Ortigas,
Robinsons Place Ermita, Robinsons Place
Novaliches, Robinsons Gateway Mall in
Mandaluyong and Robinsons Metro East in
Pasig City. The other malls are located in
Cavite, Laguna, Pampanga, Cebu, Iloilo,
Batangas and Cagayan de Oro. RLC is looking
at building more malls in Metro Manila in
the short term. While it has some properties
in Davao and General Santos City, RLC
does not have any immediate plans to construct
a mall in Mindanao.

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The news that a Robinsons mall could be built at Quezon Ave. near Pantranco could be true because the article says they're planning to build more malls in MM in the short-term.

Aaron

You're slacking off, today there is an article at bworld.com regarding Tiendesitas and Ortigas Co. How come its not here yet. :)

Jon

Aaron

hay naku naunahan ka na ni urranus sa projects on the rise. :)

Jon

The Indians love their malls like the Filipinos do.

SM Delhi. That would sound cool.

Aaron

hay naku naunahan ka na ni urranus sa projects on the rise. :)

Jon

hehe... :D

The Indians love their malls like the Filipinos do.

SM Delhi. That would sound cool.

SM New York, SM Los Angeles, SM Miami, SM Honolulu, SM Chicago, SM London, SM Paris, SM Milan, SM Copenhagen, SM Zurich, SM Moscow, SM Nairobi, SM Cairo, SM Dubai, SM Tel-Aviv, SM Bangkok, SM Tokyo, SM Seoul, SM Jakarta, SM Sydney, SM Auckland and SM Mumbai sounds terrific too! :lol:

SM New York, SM Los Angeles, SM Miami, SM Honolulu, SM Chicago, SM London, SM Paris, SM Milan, SM Copenhagen, SM Zurich, SM Moscow, SM Nairobi, SM Cairo, SM Dubai, SM Tel-Aviv, SM Bangkok, SM Tokyo, SM Seoul, SM Jakarta, SM Sydney, SM Auckland and SM Mumbai sounds terrific too! :lol:


Yes of course! :)

Oh and I was able to visit Caleruega when I visited the country almost two years ago. beautiful place and scenery.

Why dont they build an SM City Shanghai?:D

Hm.... yeah, SM hasn't been expanding outside our seas have they? I guess it's more hard than say... San Miguel or Jollibee.

Hm.... yeah, SM hasn't been expanding outside our seas have they? I guess it's more hard than say... San Miguel or Jollibee.

isn't there SM in Xiamen?

yeah, there's already an SM (or two of them?) in China.

archive news:

Balita.org
Thursday, February 24 2005 @ 07:43 PM GMT

2 MORE SM MALLS TO OPEN IN CHINA

The SM Group of the Sy family announced on Thursday that two more SM malls will open in China this year as the retail giant goes in full gear toward the regional expansion of its shopping centers.

However, SM Prime Holdings Inc. director Henry Sy Jr. clarified that the mall expansions in China will not be developed by the corporation but will only use the SM brand name.

"We are working with a lot of partners in Hong Kong," Sy told reporters after an investors' briefing Thursday.



The two SM Malls will be located in the cities of Chengdu and North Xiamen and are slated to open within the year. SM already has two malls that are already operational in Xiamen, the one having opened in 2002.

Sy said SM, in partnership with Hong Kong-based companies, is looking forward to expand its chain of malls in other countries, particularly developing nations.

"In the future we would like to grow our malls in various places but everything depends on availability of land. We would like to go to places where there's an emerging market like India but not anymore in highly developed areas," Sy said, adding that SM and its partners are now actively searching for viable locations around the region.

"We have already started negotiating for properties for development in the region aside from China," he added.

In the Philippines, SM Prime Holdings is also continuously pursuing its nationwide expansion with a capital expenditure allotment of P5 billion for the full-year of 2005. "We are expanding at a pace of four malls a year, which are basically located in the Metro Manila area and in Luzon, but we are also developing malls in the Visayas and Mindanao areas," Sy said.

Four more malls are set to open in the third and fourth quarter this year: SM Valenzuela, SM San Lazaro, SM Molino and the SM Mall of Asia, which the company is envisioning to become Asia's largest shopping complex.

Meanwhile, SM Clark is scheduled to open in 2006, along with three other mall sites.

Construction of the SM Mall of Asia lies at a 5.7-million square feet property alongside Manila Bay that would offer not only shopping, but also a hotel, leisure and entertainment facilities, a school, a medical center, a church and residential and office condominiums. The same site currently houses the SM Group's corporate headquarters.

Sy said the group is confident that it is well on track in meeting its earlier projection of a 10-percent to 14-percent increase in net profit for the full year of 2004.

Meanwhile, SM group's real-estate arm SM Development Corp. is planning to develop its 6,000-hectare Haciena Looc property in Batangas. The site has 13 beach coves, where a mall, a high-rise condominium, golf course and a clubhouse will soon rise.

Early this week, the Securities and Exchange Commission approved the initial public offering (IPO) of SM Investments Corp., the investment holdings company of the Sy family, which could raise up to P42 billion when it debuts at the Philippine Stock Exchange next month.

SM Investments Corp. said it would offer between 75 million to 140 million shares at a price range of P230 and P300 per share. At the maximum size, this would represent nearly 25 percent of the company's capital after the IPO.

SM Investments Corp. said it will use a large chunk of the net proceeds from the primary offer for projects related to property development, tourism and leisure and general investments. Roughly a third of the proceeds will be used to pay portions of its existing loans and liabilities.

Gateway Mall - 03.20.05

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03.22.05

The Oasis @ Gateway Mall:

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Walkway:

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I should really try to go to gateway one of these days. Has anyone tried the lazy boy cinema seats yet? Are they any good?

nice pics...i like the lush gardens and the bright neon lights:okay:

Ganda talaga ng Gateway Mall...sadly,we have only a few malls (like Gateway, Greenbelt etc.) that can rival those of KL or BKK. If you would visit the Malaysian and Thai forums, you will see that their average malls are really upscale and better than 2/3 of all our local malls. Just see KL's Suria Mall of the Petronas Podium or other malls like Mid Valley and Beraja Times Square or BKK's Emporium or Pacific Mall(?) just to name a few even though our malling culture is relatively older than theirs, I guess.

Ganda talaga ng Gateway Mall...sadly,we have only a few malls (like Gateway, Greenbelt etc.) that can rival those of KL or BKK. If you would visit the Malaysian and Thai forums, you will see that their average malls are really upscale and better than 2/3 of all our local malls. Just see KL's Suria Mall of the Petronas Podium or other malls like Mid Valley and Beraja Times Square or BKK's Emporium or Pacific Mall(?) just to name a few even though our malling culture is relatively older than theirs, I guess.

The difference is, we USE our malls :D