Okay, I don't know how I came up with that name, but let's have a thread for some of our malls...

here are a few images I was able to save from before the hack of Greenbelt - to me one of - if not the - best malls in the country. It was actually awarded one of the best malls in the world. I posted the article before the hack but can't find it now...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/p28ba09aba48f8f5273705fc320943419/f93bbb34.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/p5ecb212ff79d7ea3372483e75f884edc/f93bbb37.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/p96abcffcb8d997ebabcf1ab5be66c9a6/f93bbb30.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/p7bd72138c3be385646861a13911e0aaf/f93bbb3b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/pee222c89054788a50b59134e05115493/f93bbb2f.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/pda96cbd27ea257846338c1d1d0e4b879/f93bbb3d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/p6252a44ff38fc97769ef8e675707b644/f93bbb2e.jpg

not only is it the best mall, it's also one of the best pieces of art the country's got! I love Ayala for this!!!

yeah, the ayala's surely transformed greenbelt into a worl class mall! i love it! hope they'll transform greenhills mall the ame way also :)

there's another Mall on the blueprint...
it's named North Something regional mall...located at the north station of MRT. A joing project of MRT and Ayala...
I forgot the cost, im sorry...its about 4 something billions.

isn't that the North Triangle Project thing?

hey how about some SMmega mall pics? :D

Yup! Thats the north triangle MRT 3 and MRT 7 super-station. It will have a Ayala mall and a couple of highrise condos on top (so i heard). This project has been on hold for quite a while now, i hope they will restart it soon. Ayala owns shares in MRT 3, btw;) It will also have a huge parking lot for commuters to park their cars and ride to MRT to work...pretty cool

I was just talking about that project with Lance before we got hacked.....

The Podium: Henry Sy's attempt at building malls with character.

http://www.geocities.com/mikerasalan/philippines03/podium.txt

http://www.geocities.com/mikerasalan/philippines03/podium2.txt

The Podium is actually going to be the podium of the future SM-KS Tower in Ortigas Center.

Yup, its a very classy mall. Not that big, its really just a podium. The elevators are so fast, a sign of how tall the towers will be. And the car park goes so damn deep, another sign of how tall this will be.

now im just waiting for a 55-storey twin complex to be built above it:)

haha...yeah Renell...the moment i get the info about it, Phil forumers will be the ones to know. well, we're the only ones who has nothing to do about it but are very excited about it. the marketing gurl of ASB Malayan did not want to tell me whether this project will push thru or not. i inquired about their ASB proj (which about 2/3 sold out now)...and we've talked about SM-KS. She knows something about the status of this tower but hesitated to tell me whether it will push thru or not. She's quite afraid that i will buy units at SM-KS instead. Hahahaha...:D Crazy. So, that means SM-KS has chances of being built.

haha...

i still have to visit the Podium, was sister was there last Dec. 2002, but i've never been there

we might bump at each other. the good thing is...i can't remember how u exactly look like. so there's nothing to worry about. hahaha...then we might find ourselves taking photos of the same things. i mean the towers. and hey, don't forget to visit the scale models...Shang Grand Tower at Shangri la, then Boni Ridge at Greenbelt Cinema, and a nearby Residences also at Greenbelt...3rd level, Columns at Glorrieta 4, what else?
:D i dunno where has the ASB model has gone.

hahaha...u guys might see each other:D One of you would be like "who's that crazy guy taking pics?" until you get close and say "hoy, si renell/francis pala!" hehehehhe:D

Cool...im still waiting for the future of the SM-KS buildings...Just tell her you arent interested in buying SM-KS units, Francis...

Some mall news from philstar.com:

"This year, ALI expects to break ground on the 200,000 square meter North Triangle Commercial Center in Quezon City in 2004. Phase 1 of the Market! Market!, located next to Fort Bonifacio Global City, will be completed later in the year.

Development will also commence on a residential enclave being planned for a 8.5-hectare lot in Fort Bonifacio area, a joint venture with the Bases Conversion Development Authority."

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so the north triangle mall/MRT station will commence (re-start) this year... And Market! Market! will open this year. The last sentence hints the serandra??

Some mall news from philstar.com:

"This year, ALI expects to break ground on the 200,000 square meter North Triangle Commercial Center in Quezon City in 2004. Phase 1 of the Market! Market!, located next to Fort Bonifacio Global City, will be completed later in the year.

Development will also commence on a residential enclave being planned for a 8.5-hectare lot in Fort Bonifacio area, a joint venture with the Bases Conversion Development Authority."

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so the north triangle mall/MRT station will commence (re-start) this year... And Market! Market! will open this year. The last sentence hints the serandra??

sweeeeet!!! if the mall pushes through, then there's a bigger chance of the MRT pushing ahead as well. the second part does sound like Serendra...

I hope the SM-KS towers push through too. what does KS mean? they were supposed to be three towers or something, right? the podium looks a bit small for them though... or even just two. who knows? I just wanna see them up soon. let's hope SM builds scrapers a tad better than they do malls. hehehehe...!

KS means Keppel (and i dunno what the "s" is). Keppel is a Singaporean firm joining forces with SM in this project.
I think Poduim is just the base for one of the towers;) I think it is for the 70 storey tower.

Well, MRT 7 is already approved so this new mall is just goes along with it.

sa ragna, KS means kill-stealing. in tagalog sawsaw. wala lang.

pero dito i have no idea. maybe Keppel the Singaporean or Keppel is Singaporean.

Lets get some SM malls in this thread. We cant have a MM Mall thread without SM in it!

haha...yes right. now what about that thread which features all things that makes a Filipino proud to be Filipino? Or in other words the self-conceited/enthnocentric thread? I liked that thread.

Gateway Mall:


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p7000cb79054c697b37db353ba7369521/f91cc1c6.jpg


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p5e18dbcba3e43cd9a112afecdff7107b/f91cc44a.jpg


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pc97154d4d562d16faf11674aa2b94cab/f91cc1c3.jpg


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p973d473b00f07997a40b93d0b61f4ec0/f91cc451.jpg


Underground Parking
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p5e25314dcf97fbda9f5bb37279449f28/f91cc092.jpg


Indoor Garden
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pdab0e500e5a79ce1bf7a02ab50100577/f91cc1c0.jpg


Cineplex
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pf48acd65e024558fc7e16d991255a158/f91cc44f.jpg

looks nice on those photos...

very nice indeed. Its modern, colorful and attractive. Surely will make Araneta a shopping heaven again. Even the parking is nice!

im not sure but greenbelt reminds me of bill gates house

btw, SM Bicutan looks quite nice. at least compared to it's cousins.

i think the S is Singapore.

thats coz its one of the newest;) Cant wait till SM Mall of Asia gets built! I wonder when they will start construction... I'm sure it will look quite nice.

thanks for that thomasian. gateway mall looks good and very colorful! any update when will they start construction? or had they? anyone know's the architect?

thanks for that thomasian. gateway mall looks good and very colorful! any update when will they start construction? or had they? anyone know's the architect?
didnt we hear a lot about this months ago? i havent been there so i cant tell anything.

wow... Gateway mall looks sweet!! the parking looks hot!! hahaha.... looks so classy in the pictures....!

The structure is actually complete, they're just finishing the exterior of the mall.

okay....it's more like mostly renovating the existing structures. any updates or renderings on manila tower in cubao?

hmm.. it's finished but not the exterior? how that possible?

The structure is finished but the exterior curtain isnt? Am i correct?
Edmund, they started from the ground up. They didnt renovate (or hardly) any buildings to construct gateway.

gateway looks cheap. i think i'm not gonna like it.

Cheap? no way. If anything, SM is cheap:D Gateway has IMAX theaters and signiture boutiques. It also has state-of-the-art movie theaters

the design. with all those colourful things. looks waay cheap. kinda grand in renderings but i'm sure the colours will make everything look cheap.

i can change my mind if i see the real thing. but now i still think its fugly.

how's the SM Mall of Asia going?? I read in the Serendra thread a bit about it.... Henry Sy's trying to get IMAX to put up the theatres there... maybe it is pushing through after all - and soon. was there ever a rendering of it? or is it just being done now?? can't wait...

I was just gonna say something about those IMAX theaters:D;)

anyways, Mall of Asia is not yet u/c. We did have renderings of it but they got lost in the hack attack. I'll try to find them again.

Araneta Center gets boost from LRT 2 extension


The Philippine STAR 04/17/2004


The Araneta Center, the country’s first retail and entertainment complex, will get a big boost in customer visits following the Light Rail Transport Authority’s line expansion of LRT 2 up to Legarda or just one more station short to complete the line all the way to Doroteo Jose adjacent to the terminus of LRT 1.

The Araneta Center is the Philippines first owner-managed mixed-use shopping and entertainment destination in Metro Manila with visitors averaging over a million daily. It is a 35-hectare expanse where Metro Manila’s major mass railway transport systems (i.e. MRT 3 and LRT 2) converge. Within its boundaries, one can find the country’s leading retail stores like: Ali Mall; Farmers Plaza; Value Station; SM, Rustans; National Book Store; Isetann; Plaza Fair; Pure Gold; Shopwise; and soon, the Gateway Mall. Here, one can buy the freshest produce from the country’s cleanest wet market, the Farmers Market.

It also serves as a transport hub to public conveyances going to all directions of the metropolis and its immediate environs. It also hosts a provincial bus terminal whose operations reach Visayas and Mindanao. Singularly, Araneta Center has one of the world’s biggest and most famous dome structures, Araneta Coliseum. Recently, Araneta Center started to metamorphose into a most modern, yet, lush garden environment with several ongoing development to once again become Metro Manila’s premier lifestyle center.

Providing unparalleled access to LRT 2 is the Gateway Mall, which is scheduled to open in June this year. This is a P2.5 billion, 100,000 sq.m. retail property development that is the first major leg of the Araneta Center Re-development Plan. The Gateway Mall is the only mall in the world that connects to a world-famous sports and entertainment arena, the Araneta Coliseum. It provides a nexus to Metro Manila’s two mass transport systems, MRT 3 and LRT 2, effectively linking EDSA to Aurora Blvd. It features a 450 sq.m., four-level, lush, tropical-themed, open-air interior garden that opens to the sky called the "Oasis." The Gateway Mall also has a Cineplex with 10 state-of-the-art movie theaters with centralized ticketing facility, centrally controlled projection room and a skylight. There are 16 entry points, plus, three loading and unloading bays specifically designated for PUJs, FX shuttle transport and private vehicles effectively segregating each type for better traffic flow. The Gateway Mall is projected to capture the imagination of the public in its search for the ultimate lifestyle center.

When completed, the LRT 2 project stretches to a total of 13.8 km. It will answer the need for a safe, comfortable and quick way to traverse Metro Manila. The tracks extend from Santolan, Pasig in the east to Doroteo Jose, Manila in the west. It will transport people from Pasig, Marikina, San Juan, Quezon City, Manila and other outlying cities and towns. Later, the line can further be extended as far as the North Harbor in the west and Cogeo, Antipolo in the east.

The project consists of 11 stations interconnected by mostly elevated mass transit line except the Katipunan station, which is underground. The depot lies in the east with the line crossing the Marikina River along Marcos Highway. Then, it travels along Aurora Blvd., Magsaysay Blvd. and Legarda to terminate at Recto Avenue station to the Doroteo Jose station of LRT 1.

The LRT 2 line will be served by 18 four-car trains from the Asia-Europe MRT Consortium led by the Marubeni Corp. All trains are air-conditioned. Each train with four motorized cars has a total length of 92.6 meters. One train has a seating capacity of 232 passengers seated longitudinally on fiberglass benches and 1,396 standing passengers or 1,628 passengers per train.

Festival Mall in Filinvest Alabang, Muntinlupa

http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home2003/tu0001es/Muntinlupa/festival-big3.jpg
http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home2003/tu0001es/Muntinlupa/festival-big1.jpg
http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home2003/tu0001es/Muntinlupa/festival-big2.jpg


Alabang Town Center at Ayala Alabang, Muntinlupa

http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home2003/tu0001es/Muntinlupa/town-center-big2.jpg
http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home2003/tu0001es/Muntinlupa/town-center-big1.jpg

Sweet pics! First time we got good pictures of both those malls. Filinvest looks great in those pics:okay: Thanks for sharing them:)

Festival Mall is quite large...

Your malls is so big.Do you have maga malls in every large cities?

Actually those malls above are still part of Metro Manila. They are located in Muntinlupa which is a city on the southern most part of Metro Manila.

Yeah, we have lots of malls and many of them are quite big. Most major cities have malls but not necessarily big ones.

ah. what did Eriq call this mall? it has a lot of potential, but ATC is a big competitor.

Are you talking about the other mall across SLEX from Filinvest? The mumu mall?

both malls look HUGE in those pics!!! and I love that first pic where you can see thousands of trees lining the entire stretch of road! can't believe that's in manila!! at first I thought they were models! wish all our cities are like that! hehehe... looks like a mini BGC in the south! do Clark and Subic look like that as well?

Gateway Mall sounds nice in that article too... how do they have an open-air Oasis inside the mall? what heppens once it rains? ehehe.... I wanna see it once opened. sounds like another mall revolution - even better than Greenbelt and ATC... can't wait!

@GreyX - I think I did see a few pics of Mall of Asia before the last hack. not too sure though. we usaed to have an individual thread for it, right?

hey, just wana add something. the SM Mall of Asia that weve long been waiting for is now almost finished!!!! i can describe it as realy giant & superbig! the main structure is still box-type kind of(typical of all SM) w/ 4 massive towers attached to its corners, & SM Group is now claiming it to be the largest ever constructed in Asia, complete w/ evrythin-so the concept now is multi-purpose, meaning not just a mall but a kind of community comp[osed of office, residential, retail, themepark, & entertainment center all in just 1 roof! (FYI: the megamall in ortigas presently is the 3rd largest in Southeast Asia by the record). meanwhile, Henry Sy, the mall taipan, who revolutionized 'malling' in the country is bent on opening 3 malls every year. this year, aside from Mall of Asia, scheduled to open are 2 other malls in Southern Tagalog, SM Dasmarinas, Cavite & SM City Batangas City. Last year, they opened Sm bicutan alongside w/ 2 others in Marilao, Bulacan & Lucena City, Quezon. theyre now focusing on ventures outside Manila bec. market here is now very saturated. well, the're just 2 many malls in the metro now & people can never get away on spending & buying..... grabe! all of this actually are part of Sy's strategy to giv the foreigners an impression that we are indeed the new shopping capital of Asia. hmmmm...too good to adopt, afterall, manila has been ranked as one of the cheapest cities in the world by a certain intl buss. magazine. by the way, goin back to sm, it is situated on a reclaimed land beside the world trade center complex, the one where the boulevard 2000 project of then pres. ramos is supposed to take place. that's also where the notorious macapagal boulevard is situated dubbed by the senate as the most expensive in the world, but thats another story. nway, new establishments to arise nearby include the new nayong filipino, after it was demolished 4 naia terminal 3.

what?!?!? the Mall of Asia is almost opening???? holy shiet!! sweeeet! how true is this???? hahaha.... I haven't seen any towers though.... and is nayong pilipino supposed to open somewher at SMMA? Manila is already shopping capital of Asia as it is... hehehe... no, not completely true. I think we just have to move into a higher end like many other Asian countries have. if only the economy was doing better...

btw, welcome to the forums mysaong03!! you've added a whole lot of info since you joined... keep posting!!

absent, when we drove through Filinvest last year, my uncle was facinated by the cleanliness, modernity, beautification of the area that he said "parang hindi na tayo sa Manila..." hehehe...:D

Yeah we had some SM Mall of Asia renderings taken from the HOK website.

mysaong03, are you sure about Mall of Asia being almost completed? I havent heard anything of it when it being u/c. The current strip of SM buildings there is actually the SM office headquarters, could you possibly have mistaken it for this one? The Mall of Asia was supposed to be completed last year but was delayed a lot. I didnt even see it u/c when i was there last December, so i doubt it could be almost completed right now. Can we clarify?

Actually Boulevard 2000 was renamed to Bay City.

We had a Nyong Filipino thread before the hack with some of the renderings and models. Could someone post them again?

WILL WORLD’S LARGEST MALL BE BUILT IN PHILIPPINES?
BY CHRIS HANRAHAN
May 2003 - Int'l Council of Shopping Centers

Three times his doubters said he was crazy, and three times he proved them wrong. Now 77-year-old Henry Sy is working on his most ambitious project yet, Mall of Asia, which he says will be the world’s biggest.

“Yes, Henry Sy is crazy,” says Karl Krieger, publisher of Profit, a Philippines-based business magazine. “Crazy like a fox. He’s never been wrong about a shopping mall investment — not once.”

With 14 malls in the Philippines and one in China, Sy’s Philippines-based SM Group is one of Asia’s top retailers, owning supermarkets, department stores, a bank and a chain of drugstores. Sy himself is worth $1.5 billion, according to Forbes.

But this time, the region’s troubled economy may thwart Sy’s ambitions. Originally, the retail section of the project was supposed to open last year. Now that is scheduled to open later this year, but the company isn’t giving dates for the completion of the rest of the project anymore.

The first time Sy’s sanity got called into question was in the 1980s. As a great admirer of Sam Walton, Sy decided it was high time the Philippines had its first American-style mall. He opened that mall, SM City North EDSA, in 1985 on a 40-acre site in an underdeveloped area of Quezon City, metropolitan Manila. His critics said that the center would never work, that it was in the wrong location and that there was no market for it. They were dead wrong. With a gross leasable area of 2.8 million square feet, the mall soon became a big hit with the public.

In 1990 Sy opened the 1.4 million-square-foot SM Centerpoint on 7.4 acres of land in another part of Quezon City. Again Sy’s detractors said he was headed for disaster. Again they were wrong.

The most recent time Sy was thought not to be playing with a full deck was in 1991, when he opened the SM Megamall on a 25-acre site in Mandaluyong City, metro Manila. With a gross floor area of 3.5 million square feet, the mall is one of the world’s larger shopping centers. (By comparison, West Edmonton Mall, Alberta, Canada, measures 5.3 million square feet.) Despite real estate industry analysts’ initial reservations about the project’s size, SM Megamall has become an institution in the Philippines, drawing more than 300,000 shoppers a day.

Now Sy wants to top SM Megamall with the Mall of Asia project. At 5.7 million square feet, this huge development alongside Manila Bay, one of the world’s largest natural harbors, would eventually become — on paper — the world’s biggest shopping center. It would offer not only shopping but also a hotel, leisure and entertainment facilities, a school, a medical center, residential and office condominiums and even a church — a potential attraction in a country with the largest concentration of Roman Catholics in Asia. The site already houses the SM Group’s new corporate headquarters.

The first phase, offering 1.8 million square feet of leasable space, is supposedly due to open before the end of this year. But, in a reflection of the global economic downturn, the master plan for this giant development has been drastically revised. The development mode has changed from high-rise to low-rise, slashing the construction cost from 7.5 billion pesos ($139 million) to 2.5 billion pesos.

“Before, we thought we were going to build a seven-story building, maybe eight stories, a huge building,” said Sy. “Instead, we are putting up a sprawling-type, two-story building.”

“With the economic situation, … we thought that maybe we should change the plan, and that really caused a lot of delays,” said Tessie Sy, executive vice president of SM Group and Henry Sy’s eldest child.

Mall of Asia “was a bit ambitious” as originally envisioned, agrees Romina Magno, senior manager of research and consultancy at Jones Lang LaSalle Philippines. Though the project in itself may be sound, the country’s property market still hasn’t recovered from the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

“The recent change of plans to slow down the mall’s development by pursuing the construction in phases is a wise move,” she said. “Not only will this move save them billions [of pesos] in construction costs, it will also ensure income and rental revenues for SM even during these difficult and uncertain times.”

Currently, retail is the only stable real estate sector in the Philippines, Magno notes.

Tessie Sy is said to be the “chosen one” to succeed her father as head of the SM Group, even though the old man says he still enjoys putting in 12-hour days, six days a week and will never retire. She says Mall of Asia will be a destination for families and tourists looking for a pleasant venue to spend the day.

“It will take us a while to put all of these things up, but slowly it will be something which will be like ‘retailtainment,’” said Tessie Sy. “In the U.S. they have entertainment with retailing, and so we thought of doing something similar.”

The company envisages a cinema complex, an ice-skating rink, a pool hall and video game arcades.

For all of Mall of Asia’s claims to outdo West Edmonton Mall, such offerings pale in comparison to those at the latter, with its seven amusement venues, including a massive indoor lake, and 800 stores.

Similarly, details about the retail lineup seem spare, especially given the company’s talk of opening this portion of the project later this year. Anchors will include an SM Supermarket and SM department store, as well as such “junior” anchor shops as Bench, a fast-growing chain of fashion outlets; McDonald’s; Jollibee, a local fast-food competitor of McDonald’s; and National Bookstore, the Philippines’ leading book and stationery retailer. Like Sy’s other malls, this one is aimed at a lower-to-middle-income shopper.

Nevertheless, Magno says she likes the retail-entertainment concept.

“It reflects the changing trends in property development — from just shops and stores to integrated centers where everything is within reach by the consumer,” she said. “The strategy to include different types of facilities in a single location is a tried and tested concept. The Mall of Asia is Henry Sy’s attempt to put up an integrated, self-sufficient community.”

She says she also believes that the Manila Bay reclamation area is a good location for the mall, noting that the densely populated neighborhood, with its several universities and government offices, is underserved by retail.

When the schools, medical center and hotels are added in later phases, it will assure the mall a steady stream of customers, Magno said.

The question is, when?

Meanwhile, slowing down — or halting — the Mall of Asia project has released funds for building new malls outside metro Manila, the company says. SM, which has built up a land bank of 317 acres, is expanding its chain of properties in the Philippines at a rate of two per year.

“There’s no fixed number,” said Henry Sy when asked how many SM malls the domestic market can accommodate. “But I think the Philippines could be good for 40 malls.”

Adds Tessie Sy: “The market is still wide open. We cannot peg a certain number as the limit. We are still finding out [what the market can take] and expanding into other cities outside of metro Manila. We have in the plan about 30 [malls], and we could go to 40.”

Magno says SM’s strategy of building two new malls a year will be crucial in sustaining a healthy balance sheet.

“They have seen the statistics,” she said. “The Philippine population is growing at an annual rate of 2 percent to 3 percent, urban areas are growing by 5 percent annually, consumer expenditures are growing at an average annual rate of 16 percent over the past 10 years and overseas workers’ remittances are surging by 22 percent from 1997, to $7 billion in 2002.”

These trends are expected to be sustained or to accelerate over the next 10 years, she says, and SM has meanwhile been very careful about putting its malls in areas where they will thrive.

“Given the rapid urbanization in many parts of the country, I believe there are still a lot of underserved areas in the provinces,” she said. By continuing to put its malls in growing areas, she adds, and being the first to do so, the company will have a jump on its rivals when the economy improves.

SM has also begun developing malls in China. The first opened in Xiamen, Henry Sy’s birthplace, in 2002. Additional malls will open in Chengdu and Shanghai in the next two to three years.

Sy was born in China’s Fujian province and emigrated to the Philippines with his parents when he was 12. After leaving school, he sold shoes in Manila. This business proved to be so successful that he went on to open Manila’s first air-conditioned department store in the 1960s.

Consequently, even if Mall of Asia has ground to a halt, there is plenty else keeping the company busy.
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found this on the internet while I was trying to search for renderings of the MOA. the HOK site didn't have it at all. saw a thumbnail on Palafox's website though. but it was a broken link... dang!

I wonder why Henry Sy decided to halt the project. what are the chances of a mall - an SM Mall at that - in the Philippines losing money? I guess it's just too big for the country. we don't have enough retailers to fill the space up. I like the concept of putting everything under one roof though. Disneyland:California::SMMOA:Manila. they both can draw packs of tourists from all over the world - which is why Sy thought up the idea of adding hotels and stuff.

I dunno... I just can't wait to see this come alive...

So only 2 floors instead of seven?How sad...but this plan really is very amazing and stunning if you would imagine it. I wonder how the mall will change Manila's character along the bay.

yeah... all i want from this is nice, architectural design... something we can showcase to the rest of the world. no one's gonna bother going halfway around the world - even if it indeed the biggest mall sitting on the face of the earth - if all it is a two level, white, rectangular box... and that will just signify how awfully poor this ccountry isN'T...

i went to this new mall in Taiwan like two years ago and it wasn't the biggest in the world, however, it was, hands down, nice and unique. it was shaped like a ball partly subsided underground. inside, the stores wrap around the globe-like structure and the department store is in another smaller ball inside - a little bit off center. never seen anything like it...

Are you talking about the other mall across SLEX from Filinvest? The mumu mall?

no, i was referring to Fiesta Mall. he called this mall something. the mumu mall is just called the mumu mall :D nothing more

he must be referring to this mall, Metropolis Alabang. The place used to be a cemetery, thus the nick "mumu" mall? :fiddle:

no, i'm sure he was referring to the Fiesta Mall. he was saying something derogatory about it, and prefering Alabang Town Center instead.

What? I can't even remember... Hmm.. Pok-pok mall??? :banana2:

there we go.. :bash:

i haven't been there for half a decade so i wouldn't know

That article is a nice read. But what a bummer...Wish they were able to stick to the original plans. But i guess this time, its a big too ambitious.

SM Prime sets aside P14 B for expansion in next 3 years
By ANA MARIE MACUJA

SM Prime Holdings Inc. (SMPH) will spend P14 billion in capital expenditures in the next three years, SMPH senior vice president for finance Jose T. Sio said.


According to Sio, for this year alone, the company will spend R5 billion in capex mostly to finance the completion of malls which are expected to be open this year. The company spent a lower capex last year at P3.8 billion.

SMPH announced it will open SM City Dasmariñas in Cavite and SM City Batangas before the end of the year.

In 2005, SMPH will spend the same amount of P5 billion as capex for the completion of Mall of Asia in Roxas Boulevard, SM City San Lazaro in Manila and SM City Molino in Cavite.

The following year, SMPH will open SM City Lipa in Batangas, SM City Clark Field in Pampanga and SM City Vito Cruz in Manila and will spend P4 billion in capex.

Capex for the next three years, Sio said, will be internally generated. The company boasts of a healthy cash flow that could finance the company’s capital expenditure program in the next three years.

During the organizational meeting that followed immediately after the stockholders’ meeting, the board of directors elected 48-year-old Hans T. Sy, as the new president, replacing his father who was reelected chairman of the board. The younger Sy is currently the SM Prime’s executive vice president for operations.

A graduate of mechanical engineering from De La Salle University Hans T. Sy is also the vice chairman of the board of China Banking Corporation and chairman of its executive committee.

Also during the meeting, the board declared a cash dividend of R0.10 and an additional P0.05 per share, or a total of P0.15 per share, payable to stockholders of record as of June 15, 2004.

Meantime the company is projecting a nine to 10 percent increase in net income for this year. The company earned R4.2 billion last year, an eight percent improvement from the R3.86 billion net income it posted in 2002.

According to SMPH, its gross revenues for the period ending December 31, 2003 surged by 10 percent to P 8.8 billion from P8.01 billion in 2002 due to continued growth in its rental operations and revenue contributions from its newly opened malls.

Meantime, Hans T. Sy said his family is considering on putting up a new mall in China. Sy said this would be a private investment of the family. He added they are open to having a local partner there for the said project.

As everybody knows, the market may be big in China but the competition is also very tough. Everything is being studied. We are looking within Asia and China is one of our options,” Sy said.

The Sy-family already has an existing venture in China, the Xiamen SM City, a five-storey mall situated at the interestection of Jiahe Road and Xianyue Road of Siamen.

The company said there has been a sustained performance of mall and food court leasing, cinemas and amusement operations. Rent, SMPH reported, increased by 11 percent to P6.98 billion in 2003 from P6.27 billion in 2002. Cinema revenues likewise grew 7 percent, posting revenues of P1.34 billion.

here's another article re: sm expansion....

S.M. mall to rise in Valenzuela
By JULIUS VICENTE
Correspondent

S.M. City Valenzuela will open in 2005 and will become the most modern shopping mall in the area which is expected to provide additional boost to the local economy and employment for residents, it was learned Friday.

Anna Victoria Gomez, corporate commercial manager of S.M. Prime Holdings Inc., told Today that a 61,460-square-meter lot in barangay Karuhatan, Valenzuela City, is the target site for the construction of the new commercial complex.

Gomez did not reveal the budget allocation for the project, but she said the shopping complex will cost billions of pesos.

Valenzuela Mayor Jose Emmanuel Carlos welcomed the plan of S.M. management to build a commercial center in the city because residents will no longer travel far to find new employment opportunities.

Carlos said the local government will also benefit from the shopping mall owing to the new taxes that will be paid to the local treasurer.

“Our yearly income in Valenzuela City could reach P1.5 billion, but with this [S.M. mall] the budget will have to increase,” Carlos said.

Gomez said five S.M. commercial centers will open in 2005, which will include a mall in San Lazaro, Manila; Valenzuela; Molino, Cavite; and the Mall of Asia in the reclamation area in Pasay City.

S.M. Prime Holdings Inc. currently operates 17 malls in the Philippines. Most recently opened were S.M. City Lucena, in Lucena City; S.M. City Baguio; and S.M. City Marilao, in Bulacan; and this year the target will see the opening of S.M. City Dasmariñas and S.M. City Batangas, said Gomez.

Jose Sio, senior vice president for finance of S.M., said the company registered a 9-10 percent increase in net income this year, from 4.2 billion pesos in 2003. He expects net revenue in the January-March quarter to increase by 15 percent compared to the same period last year.

Gomez said the company will provide additional employment and business opportunities in the city.

Residents will soon see the rising commercial building with an architectural design which provides an open-air streetscape and park-like environment. It will also provide the comfort of an all-weather shopping experience with its canopied walkways that will link buildings within the area, said Gomez.

S.M. Valenzuela is expected to give new life to the city which is also known as the Beer Capital of the Philippines because it also hosts the biggest brewery of San Miguel Corp. in barangay Marulas.
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from these two articles, sounds like lots of development is going on with SM... right now, they have 18 malls (17 Phil, 1 China). 2004 will add two more to the list, 2005 four (including Valenzuela), and 2006 another three. that sums all of it up to 27 and maybe one or two more by 2006 in China... SM City Valenzuela sounds pretty good, according to that article. I hope none of these new malls come out looking like boring old North EDSA or Megamall... some of the new malls are coming out pretty good though. excited about Clark and Mall of Asia as well...

there's a Walter Mart U/C along Pasay Road, near Cinema Square. there are presently two cranes hoisted.

I thought there was already a Waltermart there. When I lived just a few blocks away from Pasong Tamo cor. Pasay Road, I used to go to that Waltermart for my groceries.

really? that must be another walter mart mike. or it must be something bigger. hope they would put cinemas in it. Waltermart cinemas are fine!

the old Waltermart is down, and the site is u/c. they must be renovating it

I thought there was already a Waltermart there. When I lived just a few blocks away from Pasong Tamo cor. Pasay Road, I used to go to that Waltermart for my groceries.

They are renovating it big time. When i was there last December, they were doing their closing sale. I saw this rendering of it and it will look pretty nice! Two cranes? wow, quite a lot for a renovation. Must be big time renovation.

it could be a multi-storey supermarket, plus more ample space for eating for shoppers

Gosh I hope my old barber found a new site to work at... I used to go to a barbershop in the old Waltermart building called Master Barbershop. The barbers there all used to speak ilocano to each other. I loved it.

i think they demolished the whole thing. or was it too big to be demolished? i think it would be large. btw, exteriors of RObinson's Gateway Mall is almost done. looks cool. tho i dunno how it would attract shoppers, since its quite out of way if ur at Ortigas. Megamall or the other malls nearby are a good catch to shoppers or diners.
or Gateway must be looking at a long term plan...remember Greenfield?

Gosh I hope my old barber found a new site to work at... I used to go to a barbershop in the old Waltermart building called Master Barbershop. The barbers there all used to speak ilocano to each other. I loved it.

:lol: That's my barber whenever im there!:D I never understood what they said, no wonder.

they must be talking about their customers.

i think they demolished the whole thing. or was it too big to be demolished? i think it would be large. btw, exteriors of RObinson's Gateway Mall is almost done. looks cool. tho i dunno how it would attract shoppers, since its quite out of way if ur at Ortigas. Megamall or the other malls nearby are a good catch to shoppers or diners.
or Gateway must be looking at a long term plan...remember Greenfield?

Do you know exactly when it will be done? Yeah, it does face tons of competition as it is just down the road from Robinsons Galleria, SM Megamall, Shangri-la Plaza, EDSA Central, Star Mall and quite close to Rockwell Powerplant. Yeah, i do believe that it is a long term and a start up to Greenfield.

More Malls!@$! Our city will be flooded by malls...

RLC plans to build 30 malls in 6 years
By JAMES A. LOYOLA

Robinsons Land Corporation (RLC), the real estate development arm of the Gokongwei group of companies, is targeting to have a chain of 30 malls by 2010.


In an interview, RLC executive vice president Frederick Go said the firm will continue to build malls at the current rate of two to three a year in Metro Manila and in the provinces.

This year, the firm is allotting R2 billion for the construction of malls with plans to break ground for two new but smaller malls in Metro Manila. It is also set to open three malls within the year.

Go said the firm has refocused its attention on Metro Manila after it has been opening in key cities in Visayas and Luzon.

He said the firm is still waiting for the right time, when the market is ready for new malls in Mindanao where it has acquired land in growing urban areas such as Davao and General Santos cities.

Go said the problem with the provinces is that local residents tend to be more loyal to homegrown department stores or supermarkets-turned-malls and giant chains such as Robinsons have a hard time winning them over.

RLC is earmarking R4 billion for its capital expenditures for the year. RLC chairman Lance Gokongwei said the capex will be spent on the company’s mall, high rise, hotel and housing development projects.

He added that the funds for these project will mostly be generated internally as well as from proceeds from pre-selling activities.

Go said the R4 billion capex will be broken down into R2 billion for the ongoing construction of malls as well as new ones that will break ground, R1.3 billion for high rise condominium projects, R400 million for its hotel projects and R300 million for housing projects.

The firm’s high-rise projects include the Gateway Tower in Pioneer, the redevelopment of the Manila Midtown Hotel property and a residential tower in Fort Bonifacio Global City.

In light of a weak lowcost housing market, the firm will now focus on the lower middle-income market with medium-rise housing priced around the R1 million level.

“We will employ our strategy of doing joint-venture with land owners, preselling and selling receivables to government’s funding and guarantee programs and private financial institutions to migrate financing risks associated with development,” Gokongwei said.

well there are malls everywhere, and they're still popping everywhere. don't expect Gateway to be a failure... at least i hope it wouldn't be one. pinoys don't always stick to the same mall.


but you know what Ayala Center in Makati needs, a good bowling alley:D aren't they demolishing Coronado Lanes for TRAG?

For any Megamall shoppers on this forum, do they still have those really aggressive real estate salespeople that have a booth in the middle of the mall? There usually were an army of them scattered from one side of the corridor to the other so that if you're a shopper who looks like a perspective house buyer, you could not escape the wall of salespeople because they position themselves crosswise with the flow of people traffic and act like tollbooths of house and lot sellers.

When last I visited Manila, I went to Megamall quite frequently. The first few times I saw them, they tried the hardsell tactic on me and it was hard for me to get away from them. So that the next few times I went back to Megamall, I would always get my cellphone out of my pocket and pretend to be talking on it whenever I pass by them.

they were probably programmed to act like that:D

they're renovating the old SM Makati, while the new annex is being used currently. hope they put things that are typical SM: a big cheap food court, skating rink, bowling alley. :)

Hi people! This is only my second post. Ang galing-galing naman ng forum na ito! I've always enjoyed talking about infrastructure projects or urban development, but among my friends walang nakaka-relate sa hilig ko na ito. I'm so glad I found you people.

Anyway, do you guys know anything about the Harbor View Center that's supposed to be going up beside the CCP, next to the ferry terminal? There's a big architectural rendering at the site and a steel fence around the construction area. Although I don't see much activity inside. The billboard says "Opening Soon". The design appears to be a bit different from the usual Filipino mall, with lots of wings and arches. I could take a picture of the site and post it here if I knew how.

hey there again,

we don't know anything about this project..

hmm.. is it across PICC? because across CCP it's the Manila Yacht Club

Well, there's a redevelopment plan for the CCP Complex, here are a couple of renderings:
http://www.culturalcenter.gov.ph/images/Ampitheater.jpg http://www.culturalcenter.gov.ph/images/Aerial_View_of_Cluster_5.jpg

The black pyramid is reminiscent of Las Vegas. :)

hmm.. looks good, CCP complex still has a lot of empty grass and parking lots, so good thing it's being developed

It's across CCP, it used to be a parking lot between the ferry terminal and Figaro. I can take pics tomorrow. I've been going to CCP every Wednesday for the past 5 months though and nothing seems to be going up on the site, unless maybe they're still digging the foundation.

Also, there's supposed to be an SM Vito Cruz going up in 2005. At first I though they meant SM Harrison Plaza (since it's also along Vito Cruz). But now my guess is this is where the old SM ACA is located, at Vito Cruz extension corner Osmena (South Super) Highway. If that pushes through then there'll be 2 SMs in Makati.

yeah, keep us visually updated, :D it's kinda hard to know w/o visual aids

I know that project...Saw it last December. hehe, just forgot to tell you guys:D The mall is supposed to be along the shore so it will have great views of the bay.

Wow, the redevelopment looks awesome. Any news on when they will start?

that CCP Complex plan is too open i believe.. there should be more indoor/patially indoor walkways and spaces put in place.. people are not going to walk/lay around in the sun exposed for too long :D hahah..

too much concrete would make it look drab.. plus the grass! wouldnt it dry up without an expensive sprinkler system installed?? :colgate:

looks good...

may nakapunta na ba sa inyo recently sa bagong sm makati?

eto opinion ko: mukhang ok naman. generally generic looking pa rin. mas astig lang ng konti sa usual sm mall. ang masaya doon ay konektado na rin ang sm makati sa glorietta 1. habang matagal na na may koneksiyon ang landmark sa glorietta at ang greenbelt sa landmark. ibig sabihin, mula paglabas mo ng mrt3, di ka na mababahala ng husto kung umuulan at may lakad ka sa greenbelt 3 or 4. wala lang.

ang the good thing is...if u work at Rufino Pacific Tower, or Enterprise, u could go there without your feet touching the street...sana man lang makarating hanggang Citibank ang overhead pedestrian walkway.

astig no?

i will go there when I go back this May... :carrot:

Here are some pics I took at Festival Mall today when I picked up a few things.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/22080/normal_Festi.JPG http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/22080/normal_Festi2.JPG
http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/22080/normal_Festi5.JPG http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/22080/normal_Festi8.JPG http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/22080/normal_Festi6%7E0.JPG
http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/22080/normal_Festi7.JPG http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/22080/normal_Festi4.JPG http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/22080/normal_Festi9.JPG

Yeah, its cool how you can go from Enterprise all the way to MRT 3 station without stepping foot on the street.

@ Lumpia. I'd have to disagree with you. I like how the plan is. Outdoor is better because it is right by the bay so it is ideal for relaxing. It will also look nicer if it is outdoor like the plan. Besides, there are some buildings in that plan so if there are buildings, there is indoor;) hehe

Nice pics, Sunking. I havent been in there for a while. Does that mall ever get full, btw? Whenever i'm there and from the looks of it in your pics, there arent that many people. Does it get crowded like SM Malls?

nice. sooo clear! :applause:

Nice pics, Sunking. I havent been in there for a while. Does that mall ever get full, btw? Whenever i'm there and from the looks of it in your pics, there arent that many people. Does it get crowded like SM Malls?
Thanks, I'm gonna post some Filinvest pics later or tomorrow, anyway, yeah, I haven't seen it packed like SM, maybe it's just that big!

Here are the Harbor View pics. Medyo depressing pala yung site because all you see are a handful of workers, piles of hollow blocks and uprooted trees!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/pe015076a23b7438d6382b7fffa460502/f8da9881.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p900e035ad2b0ec39cc8f3106ca73ddb4/f8da987f.jpg

The street you see is the one that once you cross Roxas, turns into Vito Cruz (Pablo Ocampo), I was standing with Roxas bhind me when I took the pic. The waterfront side of the development faces the mooring area of the Manila Yacht Club and Navy HQ, while the streetfront side faces the CCP's side entrance.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/pe015076a23b7438d6382b7fffa460502/f8da9881.jpg

Also speaking of malls have any of you guys been to the redeveloped Avenida? Aliw doon, parang open air mall. Kaso medyo jologs nga lang yung karamihan sa mga stores. :) Pero masaya pa rin, especially because of the colorful shopfronts, and the interesting architecture of the old art deco buildings. Sana more shops and restaurants open in the area. I'm sure mura lang rent doon. I'll post pics kapag nakadalaw ako ulit.

Filinvest is rarely full during weekdays but during weekends sumisikip din!

Nice, nice, nice....Yup thats the one. I saw the Harbour View Square site last December. Thanks for the pics:)

Yes we have heard of the redeveloped Avenida. Quite a good project by Atienza. That area was really run-down until he redeveloped it. I only saw a few pics of it. Do you have some pics to share with us?

the mall looks nice (Harborview) :okay: maybe they aren't rushing anything..

it's good when the mall isn't too crowded, i hate it when the food court in SM is full:D

It seems that Harbour view isnt that large. It seems like a "hangout" place for people to dine, chat, etc in restaurants and coffeeshops. Sounds good. Reminds me of Marina Quay near the Merlion in Singapore (am i right or is it Clark Quay?).

Festivall is not so crowded. or was it bec ive been there on a weekday.
nice photos btw...!

i have to amend my earlier post. the construction site for Walter mart is along Pasong Tamo and not Pasay Rd. its within the block between Pasong Tamo and South Expressway.

Yeah i know...it is on the site of the old Waltermart. Pasong Tamo corner Pasay Road (below the Skyway off-ramp). My condo is sooo close to it (Cityland Pasong Tamo).

The CCP Complex might end up like the Esplanade Complex in Singapore with restos beside entertainment facilities.

Yup. I agree. With its vast open spaces and cultural centers, it is very similar to the Espanlande Complex and Marina Quay. Sounds good, when will they start the redevelopment project?

The CCP Management said that it's targeted for completion in 10 years. Let me post the entire article from culturalcenter.gov.ph:

CCP COMPLEX PLAN COMPLETED

The vision of the CCP complex as the mecca for art and culture in Asia came one more step closer to reality when the CCP Complex Business and Master Plan was finally completed last November. This was announced by CCP President Nestor O. Jardin in December last year.

The CCP Complex Plan was designed by Planning Resources & Operations Systems Inc. (PROS) on the commission of the CCP. The Plan which covers some 60 hectares of land available for development will serve as the framework for a comprehensive artistic, cultural, ecological, commercial and tourism development. "The output is a two volume document which gives the concept and framework for the development, the parameters for development, design guidelines, the business plan and such detailed studies such as traffic management, road network, sewerage and landscaping. " Jardin said. "It also fleshes out the vision that we have established for the CCP Complex."

The Plan comes three years after the 2000 Supreme Court decision establishing the CCP as the owner of the land that comprises the CCP Complex. For a number of years up until that time, the development of the Complex had to take a back seat, due to political and economic conditions of the country, Jardin said, and especially when a civil case was filed by some private developers for land ownership.

The vision for the CCP Complex was formulated in consultation with its stakeholders (CCP Board members, CCP officials, artists, cultural workers, members of the media, art patrons and government officials. The Plan envisions the CCP Complex as a major cultural, ecological and tourism landmark in the Philippines as well as a home for the Filipino artist and an urban oasis for the Filipino people.

Targetted for completion within the next ten years, from 2004-2013, the Plan will be implemented in four phases. The development will also utilize provisions in RA 7916 (PEZA Law and RA 7718 (BOT Law) for its benefit. The CCP, Jardin said, is in the final stages of its application for PEZA to declare the CCP as the CCP Eco-tourism Zone. "This is important because it will facilitate the development. It will also attract investors because of the incentives offered."

With the completion of the Plan, the CCP is now inviting local and foreign investors and developers become its partners in the development of the complex. In December last year, the Plan was presented to prospective investors that included big players in business and industry today.

The CCP Complex is part of the entire Boulevard 2000 property which covers an estimated 1,500 hectares of reclaimed land along the southern coast of Manila Bay. The Boulevard 2000 plan designates the CCP Complex as the Arts and Entertainment section.

"This realization of the plan is important to us because we are developing it for the Filipino people. We would like the public to enjoy the CCP Complex and to come here more often because what will be constructed, developed here and the corresponding programs that will go with the development are for all artists, cultural workers and for the Filipino people." Jardin said.

sounds nice:okay:

imo some of the buildings in the complex should be open to tourists. to me i can only pass the grand CCP, but never enter it as a tourist..

Whether watching a show inside the Main Theater or just passing by it, it never fails to enthral me. I love the CCP especially during Christmas when it's all lighted up.

yeah, CCP is well-lighted during Nov~Dec. buhay na buhay!

Here's a Greenbelt picture taken near Starbucks.
http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/22080/greenbelt4.jpg

nice pic. :)

Greenbelt is always photogenic, even if it's a cloudy day.. i took pics in a not so good day, still came out nice.

i think they demolished the whole thing. or was it too big to be demolished? i think it would be large. btw, exteriors of RObinson's Gateway Mall is almost done. looks cool. tho i dunno how it would attract shoppers, since its quite out of way if ur at Ortigas. Megamall or the other malls nearby are a good catch to shoppers or diners.
or Gateway must be looking at a long term plan...remember Greenfield?

Francis,

The Metro Gateway Mall is creating its own demand. It will also have three residential condominiums as well as an office building built for call centers. It will also cater to the people from Globe Telecoms and Telepark. It's not that big a mall, it's only 30,000 sqm.

hey, just wana add something. the SM Mall of Asia that weve long been waiting for is now almost finished!!!! i can describe it as realy

I'm skeptical about this. I just went to the SM Prime annual shareholders meeting and their time frame for finishing SM Mall of Asia is 2005. There will be a high-end mall too like Podium in the area.

hello... guys.. have any of you checked the site www.skyscrapers.com or www.emporis.com/en/ ? this site contains a large database of all skyscrapers in the world and there you can view our buildings, being built, proposed, etc.

you may also view there the proposed SM-KS buildings (3 of them)...

yeah, it's 2005. it is schedule for opening along with two other SMs. Or that 2005 must be too early?

Pau...one of the editors of skyscrapers.com is our very own moderator here...by the name of Efren Reyes...aka Queetz.

ohh.. really!.. wow... i have been trying to apply as a photographer of that site... that was one of my favorite sites to visit... and yeah I know him.. he's one of the two official Philippine editors of that site together with Aquino.... ;D

I see that this forum contains very good pictures of our business centers... and I think these pictures may be added to that site, because the pages alloted to our cities are not very well updated or lacks pictures to represent each of our skylines and skyscrapers... ;D

Also, some of my pictures are in skyscrapers.com, pau. I am Ryan Lledo:)

hahaha...Queetz is Efren Aquino!!:D Francis was just fooling with you, with the Reyes part.

:wallbash: sabi na nga ba at bilyarista un.... hahahaha :D

nice to meet you....:D I see that there a lot of good pics here ahh... they could be added to skyscrapers' dbase... kasi parang di complete ang pics for Manila cities.... :D

I'm skeptical about this. I just went to the SM Prime annual shareholders meeting and their time frame for finishing SM Mall of Asia is 2005. There will be a high-end mall too like Podium in the area.

exactly. I was skeptical about it too. But since it is scheduled for completion on 2005, is it currently underconstruction? Do you have any renderings/models and additional information on it?
See, you're a real estate person, and you are helping us!:)

@ pau - Queetz purposely limited the information and number of pictures in MM's database on skyscrapers.com. however, a lot of the info that are already there come from this forum!:) As well as his own knowledge.

For those who have not yet seen SM Baguio, here are some pics I have scanned from BluPrint magazine. I haven't been there yet either, but I think it looks gorgeous! :okay:

I've quoted the captions directly from the magazine.

A stretched-membrane canopy hovers above the mall's main entrance
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Entrance-Canopy.jpg

SM Baguio's terraced structure sits unobstrusively in its landscape as seen from Burnham Park
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/View-From-Burnham-Park.jpg

The plan of the mall
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Technical-Diagram.jpg

View to a till; escalators on a busy day
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Escalators.jpg

This time, SM thinks out of the box. SM Baguio is separated into several masses and set back by as much as six separate levels
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Facade.jpg

Floor pattern on the lower ground floor
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Floor-Pattern.jpg

Like a ship's sail, the stretched-membrane roof is anchored to one of the tubular joints
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Membrane-Roof-Joint.jpg

A series of Teflon-layered stretched membranes over the uppermost floor frees the mall from airconditioning
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Membrane-Roof.jpg

The stretched membrane also gives the mall its distinctive look
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Cinema-Area.jpg

Typical railing detail inside the mall
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Railing-Detail.jpg

The mall's colors and materials, such as the retaining walls' 'rip-rap' stones, help the structure blend into the environment
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Outdoor-Riprapping.jpg

Nice terraces; one of the upper levels overlooking the City of Pines
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Terrace-01.jpg

http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Terrace-02.jpg

A curved sweep of a cantilevered upper level looms over one of the walkways
http://img77.photobucket.com/albums/v234/ronniepoe/SM%20Baguio/Terrace-03.jpg

(Original photographs by Ava Lugtu, Arcadio Gonzales, and Carlos Celdran)

I think it blends well enough with its surroundings.

The building looks great! I wish to see it sometime ...

yeah.. I think that this is one of the most beautiful of the SM malls... I also would like to see inside it.... the last time I was in Baguio it is only about to open and it opened 2 days after we went back to Manila... sayang! :D

yeah...thanks for posting them here. i got the real copies of it.
hey...im sorry about the Efren Reyes mistake. thanks for correcting.
yeah, its indeed Aquino, sorry Queetz.:D

yeah.. I think that this is one of the most beautiful of the SM malls... I also would like to see inside it.... the last time I was in Baguio it is only about to open and it opened 2 days after we went back to Manila... sayang! :D


I think it's the ONLY SM Mall sa far that was designed with some sort of concession to beauty and design. Inside, it's not much different from other malls except for the lack of aircon. The terrace areas with the restaurants are a great place to hang out in.

looks like it blends somewhat well with Baguio. first mall SM actually cared for the exterior look :D

wow...finally SM get more creative and away from the typical box!

I can't decide yet if I like that SM Mall or not :D

I agree, SM Baguio is the best looking SM mall out there. It has lots of great detail and modern architecture. Hopefully, all future SM malls will follow that trend. Maybe Mall of Asia?:D

SM Baguio Pics

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/NYeriq/smbaguio02.jpg

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/NYeriq/smbaguio01.jpg

edit. hotlinking didn't work :wallbash:

Way cool! It doesn't look like a typical mall at all! Those "tent-like" tops reminds me of Denver Int'l Airport.

@greyx, i doubt it :D i dunno why...

anyways, what is that tent-like thing made out of, concrete?

But i really think SM should make their future malls as modern and creative as this one...

anyways, what is that tent-like thing made out of, concrete?

According to BluPrint, it's a Teflon-layered stretched membrane. A base fabric (usually fiberglass or polyethylene) is coated with Teflon. Teflon and Fiberglas roofs have superb insulating properties. They filter infrared and ultraviolet radiation from the sun and admit visible light and resistant to the elements. And since hardly anything sticks to Teflon, it keeps the surface clean and looking like new for a long time.

More info on stretched membrane roofs from my Google search:

http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1140.htm
http://www.redskyshelters.com/Arch_fabrics.html

But i really think SM should make their future malls as modern and creative as this one...


well a lot of us here do, in fact, i think almost all of us do.

due to the breakdown of the MRT line yesterday... I took a bus and dropped of at the Crossing... I also got the opportunity to get inside the new EDSA Central Mall by the Greenfield Dev't... I didn't know that it is beautiful inside... here are a couple of shots I took inside...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid124/pa3d568c0d07e66a106eb19ca7a31f9a6/f8135eb0.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid124/pd784ee33e076879d3af048e0a4ee6e63/f8135eb4.jpg

Nice pictures, pau_p1!

EDSA Central looks really glitzy and spacious. And it's now fully integrated with the MRT Shaw Boulevard Station.

One thing I noticed with the new EDSA Central is that it's now a promenaders' haven. Whereas in the past you have those unsightly tiangges, now you've got one airy and comfortable mall.

Outside, it's even more surprising. The former jeepney terminal has been transformed into one spacious parking lot with pedestrian-friendly sidewalks.

Good job, EDSA Central!

Nice pictures, pau_p1!

EDSA Central looks really glitzy and spacious. And it's now fully integrated with the MRT Shaw Boulevard Station.

One thing I noticed with the new EDSA Central is that it's now a promenaders' haven. Whereas in the past you have those unsightly tiangges, now you've got one airy and comfortable mall.

Outside, it's even more surprising. The former jeepney terminal has been transformed into one spacious parking lot with pedestrian-friendly sidewalks.

Good job, EDSA Central!

Wow! I like it. Nice a spiffy! I kinda reminds me of an airport terminal's shopping section, I guess the roof has something to do with it.

You guys seen "The Terminal" yet with Tom Hanks? It reminds me of this.

yeah this was a very good development of the site.. plus it had good shops... at first I didn't intend to take its picture specially the exterior coz i fear of snatchers... but when I got in... I can't help myself to be amazed of the difference.. considering I just live across it behind EDSA... it looked classy compared to the old tiangge haven... maybe next time i'll try to take pictures of its exterior :D

I'm really happy that EDSA Central is finally back in the game!

For so long, EDSA Central has been relegated to being a crappy backwater in this booming area of Mandaluyong City. SM Megamall, Shangri-La Plaza and Manuela (now Starmall) rode high as constant redevelopment kept those malls in the thick of the retail action. The surrounding areas also developed as the MRT Station was put up. By contrast, EDSA Central had minor renovations but largely kept its old, run-down, "has-been" look.

With its massive facelift, I hope EDSA Central gets the clientele it deserves and gets its fair share of the booming retail business in this area.

Nice mall...simple yet glitzy..

galing. napadaan ako jan minsan. ayus.

Greenbelt 4
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid127/p615015af0f0f77a375314f33ee01bc13/f7ed8f01.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid127/p8d4130ba7d3f9f72fa91dd6aeed044ef/f7ed8f7e.jpg

Ayala Museum
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid127/p6d5175121902d98b26c5f611665e376d/f7ed901f.jpg

Greenbelt Park
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid127/pfc97f2c4bde853edfafc497b01214b6f/f7ed91ea.jpg

Greenbelt 3
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid127/p4e7d135b06a8bd2b1aabf026b0c7f3c5/f7ed912b.jpg

Nice pictures of the swankiest shopping complex in the Philippines - the Greenbelt Malls.

By the way, an L.A.-based friend of an uncle visited here recently and was verrrry impressed with it.

I'd love to get a glimpse of the interior of the Ayala Museum. I hope it's as impressive as the exterior.

well.. its not yet done... the Museum is still in its finishing stages... though when I passed by its entrance there are some lights and stuff already and a guard...:D

thanks pau!

ayala museum
wow! it looks awesome! i love the design, regret that i didn't go when i was there. pau do you have interior photos of it? =)

greenbelt 3 and 4
looks really good! too bad i wasnt able to go here also =( love the design, it's so very modern and western!!!

Last week I read a news item that SM Baguio specifically in the terraces with teflon tent was no match to the winds and rains . Some flaws in its design ( tent ) was not able to contain the strong winds and rain that hit BC two weeks ago?? Reportedly some of the shops became flooded as rain water seeps inside that part of the mall.
The designers , was caught by suprise by the immense power of nature that ravaged that portion of the mall.

haven't got interiors for the Ayala Museum... it's still closed to public..:D

here are some pics of the Gateway Mall of the Araneta Center.... I'll put a copy of it in the underconstruction thread later... ;D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid128/pebee9c306f9afe9c79d8947ca3dd2631/f7dfb00e.jpg
side facing EDSA...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid128/p2de74dfb888fd0214c96e77adeeba9b2/f7dfb024.jpg
facing the old Fiesta Carnival

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid128/p2fb13978a82bb9dad2c5f7fbea62f9c4/f7dfb036.jpg

looks nice! i like the curtainwall!

The massive Gateway Mall is giving Cubao it's much-needed facelift.

I remember as a kid in the early 80s, we used to be at Cubao every weekend. Cubao was then touted as Makati's rival in the commercial center business.

Over the years, new shopping centers have sprouted across the length and breadth of Metro Manila while Cubao seems to have been stuck in the 70s.

With the huge redevelopment going on, I'm so glad that Cubao's Araneta Center is now ready to compete.

yeah... plus the new Fiesta Carnival... hmmm... seems like a StarCity version...:D cool rides...

New SM president setssights on mall in China
By Honey Madrilejos-Reyes, Senior Reporter

MALL operator SM Prime Holdings Inc. is planning to step up its presence in Asia, particularly China, its newly elected president Hans T. Sy said in the company’s annual stockholders’ meeting Thursday. He was quick to say though that the plan would require intensive study and could actually happen in the next couple of years. “We need a lot of study for it to be very successful. We have to give it a few more years,” said Sy. “As everybody knows, the market may be big in China but the competition also is very tough.” The Sy group currently has an investment in China via the Xiamen SM City, a five-storey mall situated at the intersection of Jiahe Road and Xianyue Road of Xiamen. For the Xiamen Mall, Sy said the group merely provided for the technology transfer. “We are not operating the mall there. We actually partnered with the local investors there,” he said adding that the group’s current investment in China was made by the Sy family and not by SM Prime. For its future expansion plans, Sy said the group is open to possible partnerships. “Having a partnership is really a being able to understand the culture over there,” he said. At the local front, SM Prime announced a P14-billion capital expenditure (capex) program over the next three years (2004-2006) to finance the construction of 10 malls in various parts of the country. Jose T. Sio, SM Prime’s senior vice president for finance, said the capex would be raised through internal funding. For this year, the company is expected to complete the malls in Dasmariñas, Cavite and Batangas City. By 2005, SM Prime would be operating SM City San Lazaro in Manila, SM City Molino in Cavite City, SM City Valenzuela, and the ambitious SM Mall of Asia in Roxas Boulevard. Up for completion in 2006 are SM City Lipa (Batangas), SM City Marikina, SM City Clark, Pampanga and SM City Sta. Rosa, Laguna. Sio said SM Prime is targeting a 9 to 10-percent increase in its net profit this year, depending on the improvement of the economy. Last year, the company reported an 8-percent growth in net income to P4.18 billion from P3.86 billion the previous year. Consolidated revenues, on the other hand, went up by 10 percent to P8.8 billion versus P8.01 billion. SM Prime has a total land bank of 194 hectares in 16 strategic locations including Bacolod, Marikina, Laguna, Bulacan, Pangasinan, Lucena, Cavite, Batangas, and Cabanatuan.

New SM president setssights on mall in China
By Honey Madrilejos-Reyes, Senior Reporter
MALL operator SM Prime Holdings Inc. is planning to step up its presence in Asia, particularly China, its newly elected president Hans T. Sy said in the company?s annual stockholders? meeting Thursday. He was quick to say though that the plan would require intensive study and could actually happen in the next couple of years. ?We need a lot of study for it to be very successful. We have to give it a few more years,? said Sy. ?As everybody knows, the market may be big in China but the competition also is very tough.? The Sy group currently has an investment in China via the Xiamen SM City, a five-storey mall situated at th
e intersection of Jiahe Road and Xianyue Road of Xiamen. For the Xiamen Mall, Sy said the group merely provided for the technology transfer. ?We are not operating the all there. We actually partnered with the local investors there,?he said adding that the group?s current investment in China was made by the Sy family and not by SM Prime. For its future expansion plans, Sy said the group is open to possible partnerships. ?Having a partnership is really a being able to understand the culture over there,? he said. At the local front, SM Prime announced a P14-billion capital expenditure (capex) program over the next three years (2004-2006) to finance the construction of 10 malls in various parts of the country. Jose T. Sio, SM Prime?s senior vice president for finance, said the capex would be raised through internal funding. For this year, the company is expected to complete the malls in Dasmariñas, Cavite and Batangas City. By 2005, SM Prime would be operating SM City San Lazaro in Manila, SM City Molino in Cavite City, SM City Valenzuela, and the ambitious SM Mall of Asia in Roxas Boulevard. Up for completion in 2006 are SM City Lipa (Batangas), SM City Marikina, SM City Clark, Pampanga and SM City Sta. Rosa, Laguna. Sio said SM Prime is targeting a 9 to 10-percent increase in its net profit this year, depending on the improvement of the economy. Last year, the company reported an 8-percent growth in net income to P4.18 billion from P3.86 billion the previous year. Consolidated revenues, on the other hand, went up by 10 percent to P8.8 billion versus P8.01 billion. SM Prime has a total land bank of 194 hectares in 16 strategic locations including Bacolod, Marikina, Laguna, Bulacan, Pangasinan, Lucena, Cavite, Batangas, and Cabanatuan

I wonder why until now there is no SM mall in Alabang or in any part of Muntinlupa City . Las Pinas has 1 while Paranaque has 2 already

Well, SM Southmall is less than 5 minutes away from Alabang (without traffic). And there's way too much competition among malls in the Alabang area already anyway.

I'm also curious why the mall builders keep putting up malls in Sta. Rosa and completely ignore San Pedro, Laguna which has a huge population and lots of fully developed subdivisions (in comparison to Sta. Rosa, where the subdivisions are mostly only partially complete), and uses the Metro Manila area code to boot. The only reason I can think of is maybe because the officials at the San Pedro city hall aren't as welcoming as their Sta. Rosa counterparts? Sayang. It was long rumored that they were going to develop the area beside Splash Island and the Southwoods exit.

The North Edsa project beside the MRT3 terminal is an Ayala project right? It's too bad Ayala isn't as aggressive in expanding their retail properties as Robinsons and SM, or even Ever Gotesco. They have almost zero presence north of Makati.

maybe ayala is catering to the middle to upper market kasi so they're kinda sluggish in developing malls outside makati. The north triangle project seems to be a big thing. I wonder when would it push through. All I see are foundations and steel.

yeah... plus the new Fiesta Carnival... hmmm... seems like a StarCity version...:D cool rides...


shopwise is at fiesta carnival's old site right? What does the new fiest carnival look like now? is it still closed or open-air na?

Just so happen that the huge almost vacated plant of Nestle in Alabang was up for bidding a few years ago , and it was rumored that SM was the winning bidder .But I guess it is not true since based on the news item about their land properties for mall development , none is mentioned in Muntinlupa/ Alabang area.

That site of Nestle -Alabang plant , if ever , would probably one of the best locations SM will put up a mall but for sure they will be bombarded for making traffic worse in that area unless they will come up with a architecture/engineering design that will not make the traffic too bad in that area. The backslide however , is that too many malls will be within that proximity will be concentrated in that area almost similar to EDSA ( Shaw -Mandaluyong-Ortigas ) .

If ever SM will put up a mall in Muntinlupa City , why not within the Susana Heights or Tunasan area where there are still huge tracts of lands possible for mall development . Lets face it, an SM or Robinson mall really adds prestige to the status of certain city or municipality.

But having Festival Mall , Alabang Town Center , Metropolis , Lianas and the upcoming South Central in the Alabang vicinity is something also to be proud of no matter what.

does anyone have more info about "maeket market" in BGC? the actual building looks bad compare to the renderings/ thanks

I think that the Ayala's would do construction of the North Triangle mall when Market! Market! opens... they may be budgeting for it....

yep.. Shopwise now houses the old carnival... and the new Fiesta Carnival is now at the South side of the Araneta Coliseum adjacent to it.. I think that area used to be a parking lot... it's open air.. with good rides like the Anchors Away of Enchanted Kingdom.. etc...

I wasn't able to actually take a look of that area.. but I've seen some shots of it in TV.. and it looked great at night!...:D

c/o of the Araneta Center site...
http://www.aranetacenter.net/images/easiest-route-to-araneta-ce.gif

hey, cropher, are u from san pedro? im living near the southwoods exit. i heard some rumors-rumors, that rustan's group is planning to put up a supermarket near the exit. well, it isnt hard to believe though, coz filestate is now about to finish fixing the area-like putting basic infras, a network of concrete roads and relocating electric posts, etc. it wud surely benefit san pedro residents in the long run. iv this question, do u ever know whats the purpose why they built an underpass in front of the left tollgate?? its kinda weird coz it would only lead either to CSA or Splash, (mukha pa naman cyang tunnel) nway.... w/ regards to SM, i recently read an on-line news item that they're interested (i just don't know kung nabili na) to acquire a huge tract of land near the susana heights- yung lote don w/ lots of bushes & shrubs that looks like a mini forest, but i think its not 4 a mall devt, baka subdivision lang.
if ur thinking naman of putting an SM in san pedro, well, i think the best spot to build it is the huge empty lot in front of pacita complex. it seems medyo mahina ang san pedro officials dumiskarte, even the san pedro exit is stil closed upto now, e ang tagal na nyang tapos no!

Putting up SM Mall in front of Pacita would kill off business in Pacita Commercial Center and main street. Bad idea.

All I see are foundations and steel.

actually, those foundations (and steelworks) are there because the MRT-3 depot is actually under it...

yeah i've heard of the north triangle before, seen some renderings also, looks awesome! hope they build it soon. heard this are would house retail/commercial, ofices and residentials. would be nice to develop that side of the metropolis!

Renderings from BGC newsletter. the current mall doesnt look as good the rederings. could it be the color maybe?
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/6201449-L.jpg

Wow! Market!Market! looks very grand and promising in these renderings.

I hope the actual product meets my very high expectations.

er... just wanna ask.. how do you go to BGC if you are commuting? :bash:

hi eriq, yah, it could have been a really bad idea, pero kung value din lang ang pag-uusapan, i think a shopping mall, or an entertainment-cum-food complex could probably be the most feasible establishment to build there, in fact, construction of the madison square is already underway, & besides, pacita commercial center has eversince been monopolizing the buss. activity in the area, kahit yung mga pacita residents themselves wud prefer to shop in robinsons sta.rosa, festival, sm southmall or uniwide. pacita complex is the largest, the most developed & d most affluent residential area of san pedro, so deserving naman cguro to put up a mall or a new establishment that's way better than d old commercial center.

well, when i was in BGC 2 months ago, the rendering dont like the actual one, it looks so massive and boxy and the color is bright dark pink =(

Pacita Complex is one of the largest subdivisions in the whole of Laguna. The San Pedro municipal officials are really dropping the ball when it comes to attracting development projects. They've been so left behind by Sta. Rosa and Binan. The Madison Square mini-mall is a welcome addition, but there's still so much space left over. I remember years ago Isetann was supposed to put up a mall in that space. In retrospect, it's a good thing that it didn't push through considering how badly Isetann has maintained its malls.

@amras... there are shuttles that route the BGC complex... the Fort bus... it has stations in Ayala near the Ayala MRT station and in FTI near the SLEX... I'm not sure on the Pateros side... but for more convenience.. try a cab..:D

Does anyone have renderings of the Ayala North Triangle mall because I haven't seen any yet?

@amras... there are shuttles that route the BGC complex... the Fort bus... it has stations in Ayala near the Ayala MRT station and in FTI near the SLEX... I'm not sure on the Pateros side... but for more convenience.. try a cab..:D

thanks! :okay:

thomasian
sorry dont have the renderings of the ayala north tringle anymore =( hopefully someone have it here!

from that rendering market market looks glassy. it's very ugly in reality. bgc's bound to be a failure.

weirdo
i agree with you. the current market market is so massive and it's not as glassy as it looks on the renderings, maybe they run out of funds? it's too bad because it would be right next to serendra and SOMA =(

can someone share a photo of the newly built market market? we want to compare it with the renderings above =) thanks in advance

heh...masyado ka pessimistic weirdo. haha...antay ka lang. keysa wala di ba?

Passed by SM Dasmarinas for lunch kanina and was able to snap a few shots.

Here's a nicely ironic scene, Robinsons Place Dasmarinas as seen through SM Dasmarinas' entrance.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid130/pb5b79a4944dd4f4bffecb24f7e16e0ad/f7b600fb.jpg


SM Dasmarinas interiors, 2nd level

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid130/pfe468ac28076b0ddbd236994858f75a4/f7b600ff.jpg

buti ka pa nakapasok na dun. Ilang beses na akong nagdaan dun pero palaging nagmamadali kaya hindi ko napapasok. ok na pala ung loob. labas na lang ang kailangang i-furnish (last time I went to Cavite was July 9). :)

Ilang levels ba mayroon ang Robinson's at SM sa Dasma , may nabili kasi ang kuya ko na lote sa isang subdivision very near sa 2 competing malls na yan .

Hindi ko pa kasi napupuntahan lugar na iyan , last was 2 years ago pa.

hindi ko pa napapasok pareho. malamang hanggang 3rd floors pareho.

Here is West Edmonton Mall for those who wish to take a look....not so much architecture, but shows the amenities.

www.westedmontonmall.com

indoor amusement park

http://www.westedmontonmall.com/images/glxy.jpg

indoor waterpark

http://www.westedmontonmall.com/images/waterpark_left.jpg

deepsea adventure- submarine rides, scuba, sealife caverns, and a full scale pirate ship

http://www.westedmontonmall.com/images/dsa_right.jpg

NHL regulation size hockey rink

http://www.westedmontonmall.com/images/ice_right.jpg

Paris street

http://www.westedmontonmall.com/images/europa_left.jpg

Fantasyland hotel with country themed rooms.....

http://www.fantasylandhotel.com/images/exterior.jpg

aerial shot from the east

http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/ab/edmonton/2001/eds2001_208.jpg

aerial shot from the west - it stretches a full 8 city blockslong and 3wide

http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/ab/edmonton/2001/eds2001_207.jpg

nice pics. I like that Fantasy Hotel pic and that aerial shot... from the east. :D

Um, shouldn't this be in the Canada thread?

I'm supposed to ask that same question too. :)

Ilang levels ba mayroon ang Robinson's at SM sa Dasma , may nabili kasi ang kuya ko na lote sa isang subdivision very near sa 2 competing malls na yan .

Hindi ko pa kasi napupuntahan lugar na iyan , last was 2 years ago pa.
ano ba ang mas maganda sa dalawa??? sm city dasma or robinson's place dasma?

SM sa para sa akin...mas spacious.

me too, mas pino ang pagkagawa ng sm malls kaysa sa robinsons.....parang in a way na perfect na ng sm yung art of making mass malling complexes

Visit Gateway Mall's website @ www.gatewaymall.com.ph

The renderings look very grand, I hope they do some more justice to the so called "high end" thing. But as the way things are going, Cubao is really poised to take its former glory. Though it will take time, I always believe in the Aranetas and Mayor Belmonte!

ey guys! im kinda new here but I have been visiting this forum a couple of years now living in anonymity hehehehe

Im an urban geek since birth and i really find it really difficult to mingle with other people who do not share my interests, i thank GOD for the net! I was able to associate mahself with guys running the same intellectual wavelength
astig ba! like to know more friends mga peeeps

same with me....just a suggestion, since we're also featuring non-skyscraper scenery in the phils, why don't we also feature the famous subdivisions/ villages? maganda rin naman kasi yung mga yon...esp the new ones...

I found a rendering of the Ayala North Triangle Mall.
It looks really nice. I like it.:colgate:
http://www.geocities.com/a_ofngol/north_triangle.txt

same with me....just a suggestion, since we're also featuring non-skyscraper scenery in the phils, why don't we also feature the famous subdivisions/ villages? maganda rin naman kasi yung mga yon...esp the new ones... :okay:

it's taboo to talk about gated villages here ;)

it's taboo to talk about gated villages here ;)
pano naging taboo?

I found a rendering of the Ayala North Triangle Mall.
It looks really nice. I like it.:colgate:
http://www.geocities.com/a_ofngol/north_triangle.txt

finally... a rendering of the North Triangle Mall! hahaha... they could be starting construction real soon - if Ayala is still up with it - since the government is pushing for the construction of MRT-3 phase two before the end of the year. there have been quite a few articles about how Arroyo is wanting to upgrade and create new mass rail lines real soon. MRT-4 and MRT-7 are clearly in the picture now. I just hope the new gov't is as determined as it has so far been projecting itself to be...

Urbano...so you think we're of the same wavelenght with the guys here? pls behave, there are quite a few gurls around. i dunno why. hahaha...joke. Pls update us with QC u/cs especially the MRT 4 and MRT 7 projects. MRT 7 seems to push thru now. Exp that some agencies are willing to do the financing.

Thomasian, thanks for the rendering. Tho its only a partial. It looks nice from that partial rendering. Where exactly would it stand at? Would it be on this site right beside North Ave MRT? There's a real wide parking area there, and i think that would be part of the mall. Good job! This project is already slated for construction beginning this year. Hopefully, it would materialize. I would love to have a joyride from one mall to another...probably from Glorietta to North Triangle mall. :D

from the looks of it... I guess that it would be on the corner of EDSA and North Ave.... but then from the current foundation where MRT trains are parked.. it's quite far from the corner..... and it appears to span from the EDSA side to the North Ave side probably connecting the North AVe station of the proposed MRT4 on North Ave...

i hope that this would look grand...:D

SM fairview recently opened an annex building. which housed the largest Ace Hardware/builders center in the country... it also featured the first starbucks branch in northern metro manila... as well as a fine dining stip (super bowl, yellow cab, chef d angelo, congo grill etc...) architecturally, it looks so different from the original mall...its much more spacious, airy and colorful than the original... the expansion was a complement to the upcoming construction and opening of MRT-7 wich was also the reason SM financed that MRT project... at least that what i heard...

yeah... SM Fairview is definitely great... better shops and foodstores... :D and that entails the death of Robinsons Novaliches, the onle Robinsons that never meets quotas....

yeah... SM Fairview is definitely great... better shops and foodstores... :D and that entails the death of Robinsons Novaliches, the onle Robinsons that never meets quotas....

Robinson's wasn't so innovative when they opened RP Novaliches, it housed the same stuff that already existed sa SM! kainis nga eh sayang ung space... they should convert it into something more creative like Novaliches' first high-end mall (somthing like the rockwell mall) kase there's a huge market for the AB class sa lugar na un... SM fairview killed Ever Commonwealth that way, lahat ng mga nakatira sa executive subdivisions na malapit sa Ever went to SM instead.

yeah... plus SM got a prime location... it has become a central terminal for people coming from Novaliches proper, North Caloocan, and San Jose del Monte, Bulacan...

Robinsons is built quite far from the Highway and far from the corner.... and now that SM Fairview Annex has opened up... SM now directly faces RP Nova... some shops are already leaving and transferring to SM.... my bro's gf works for Robinson's and she says that that mall is the most problematic among their malls...

well at least it has a better cinema... cold and less viewers since most watch in SM... when the mall was newer we even buy deluxe tickets and go directly to premiere since no one guards the premiere area... hehehee.... kasi onti ng taong nanonood

yeah... plus SM got a prime location... it has become a central terminal for people coming from Novaliches proper, North Caloocan, and San Jose del Monte, Bulacan...

Robinsons is built quite far from the Highway and far from the corner.... and now that SM Fairview Annex has opened up... SM now directly faces RP Nova... some shops are already leaving and transferring to SM.... my bro's gf works for Robinson's and she says that that mall is the most problematic among their malls...

well at least it has a better cinema... cold and less viewers since most watch in SM... when the mall was newer we even buy deluxe tickets and go directly to premiere since no one guards the premiere area... hehehee.... kasi onti ng taong nanonood

ang ganda nga ng cinemas ng RP, parang private theaters... and yeah gimmick ko ung magbayad ng deluxe at maupo sa premiere...

i live just 5 kms away from that area kaya whenever nag-f-fireworks display ung SM masaya ako... ...new year last year was their best....nagkaroon ng simultaneous fireworks display ung mga SM a day before the 31st... it was simply spectacular, dahil mataas na lugar ung fairview you have a beautiful view of the Metro skyline... at that night an SM is marked by a fireworks display and you could actually see chrysanthemnum shaped explosions like every 4 inches of your view of the skyline... hehehe share ko lang

HAHAHA....yeah. that's the edge of Robinson's Nova...their Cinema's. Id prefer watching at Robinson's moviehouses than SM's. Better sounds, better seats, colder. Plus their supermarket and dept store closes very late at night. So pag di inabutan ang SM, there's still Robinson several walks away. I don't like the idea of building it on a sunken lot. i dunno why they did that. id prefer the ground level to be on par with the ground level.

Btw, that's one thing i missed about SM Fairview. I used to live with my relatives at North Fairview. That was till November last year. The annex part was still under construction. I was there last saturday to get my things from a workmate. I think there was nothing special about the annex bec it only has 2 levels/ or 3? So i didnt bother to check it out. I really missed the place. hahah...reminds me of something...

sneak sa premiere? i haven't really done that. Glorrieta 1's cinema pays the same for Premiere and de luxe. e di de luxe na lang. hahaha...i love fireworks. you should take photos of them dude (mbassyambassador)...its amazing how the photos would come out depending on the settings you use.

yeah... SM Fairview is definitely great... better shops and foodstores... :D and that entails the death of Robinsons Novaliches, the onle Robinsons that never meets quotas....
yeah any way robinson's just a big copycat :bash:

Robinson's wasn't so innovative when they opened RP Novaliches, it housed the same stuff that already existed sa SM! kainis nga eh sayang ung space... they should convert it into something more creative like Novaliches' first high-end mall (somthing like the rockwell mall) kase there's a huge market for the AB class sa lugar na un... SM fairview killed Ever Commonwealth that way, lahat ng mga nakatira sa executive subdivisions na malapit sa Ever went to SM instead.
galing talaga ng SM :)

HAHAHA....yeah. that's the edge of Robinson's Nova...their Cinema's. Id prefer watching at Robinson's moviehouses than SM's. Better sounds, better seats, colder. Plus their supermarket and dept store closes very late at night. So pag di inabutan ang SM, there's still Robinson several walks away. I don't like the idea of building it on a sunken lot. i dunno why they did that. id prefer the ground level to be on par with the ground level.

Btw, that's one thing i missed about SM Fairview. I used to live with my relatives at North Fairview. That was till November last year. The annex part was still under construction. I was there last saturday to get my things from a workmate. I think there was nothing special about the annex bec it only has 2 levels/ or 3? So i didnt bother to check it out. I really missed the place. hahah...reminds me of something...
yeah, no question bout it, mas maganda talaga cinema ng robinsons

Any idea how many malls/shopping complexes are under construction in the Metro?

Off the top of my head, I can name four:

(a.) SM Mall of Asia
(b.) Gateway Mall
(c.) Robinsons Pioneer Mall
(d.) Market! Market!

I just visited this Manila mall recently . It was or one of the Metro's pioneering malls but I heard the original building was razed by fire decades ago. Anybody here who has an old picture of that old HP mall that was razed by fire please kindly post it here.

I also notice that the land area of this mall was huge because they now occupy the Jai Alai building and aside from the main mall they also have the food court building and a huge parking areas to boast of.

I hope the Martel's just like the Araneta's will redeveloped their mall. The HP mall location is great because the vicinity is a tourist's fave . With Baywalk , CCP complex , Rizal Complex and DLSU and lots of hotels in the area. If they have to completely tore down the buildings and make it a one great and beautiful mall .

Robinson's Ermita a decade ago was almost like a empty mall but look at it now when it was redeveloped . Shoppers/tourists frequent the mall . Hopefully it will happen also too in HP. By the way , HP was the first ever mall I visited when I got into college years ago, it was popular those days.

May mga malls ( super or mini ) and commercial centers ba sa area nyo na
nakapag-open naman pero hindi talaga nag click na still open pa rin pero walang tenants or tuluyan na nagsara at hindi man lang nakatikim ng success. Samples ko ay :

Sunshine Mall in FTI
Pearl Plaza in Paranaque City
Uniwide Coastal Mall in Paranaque City

Sa Batangas city, wala naman. Naging successful naman ang Caedo (kung mall ngang matatawag un), saka ung Bay City Mall. Sa Lipa, ok naman ang Fiesta World Mall, saka un Robinson's Mall. May bagong itinatayo, SM City Batangas Mall...malamang magiging successful din. :)

CM Morales Mall and Olivares Mall in Binan, Laguna. I think the pattern is that Pinoy-family-owned malls (i.e. Manuela) are doomed to failure. They have to be run by Fil-Chinese (Sy, Gokongwei) or Fil-Spanish (Ayala, Araneta) families to succeed. Only exception so far I can think of is the Lopez's Powerplant at Rockwell. I think if you're an independent mall operator your only choice is to go either ultra high end or ultra low end since SM and Robinsons already have the mid-range market cornered.

SM City San Lazaro (Tayuman) is also u/c.
Land area is 4 hectares, 1/4 of the San Lazaro Complex.
Does anyone have renderings of it and can anyone post more info about what will be built in the remaining 12 hectares of the San Lazaro complex.

Any idea how many malls/shopping complexes are under construction in the Metro?

Off the top of my head, I can name four:

(a.) SM Mall of Asia
(b.) Gateway Mall
(c.) Robinsons Pioneer Mall
(d.) Market! Market!

you can add...

WalterMart in Pasong Tamo cor Pasay Road
HK Sun Plaza along Roxas Blvd (planned I think.. I saw a billboard of it on the site)
North Triangle Mall... planned also..

I just visited this Manila mall recently . It was or one of the Metro's pioneering malls but I heard the original building was razed by fire decades ago. Anybody here who has an old picture of that old HP mall that was razed by fire please kindly post it here.

I also notice that the land area of this mall was huge because they now occupy the Jai Alai building and aside from the main mall they also have the food court building and a huge parking areas to boast of.

I hope the Martel's just like the Araneta's will redeveloped their mall. The HP mall location is great because the vicinity is a tourist's fave . With Baywalk , CCP complex , Rizal Complex and DLSU and lots of hotels in the area. If they have to completely tore down the buildings and make it a one great and beautiful mall .

Robinson's Ermita a decade ago was almost like a empty mall but look at it now when it was redeveloped . Shoppers/tourists frequent the mall . Hopefully it will happen also too in HP. By the way , HP was the first ever mall I visited when I got into college years ago, it was popular those days.

I hate that Harrison Plaza.
Tumambay ako dun once tapos a guy approached me and asked "Magkano ka?" grabe napagkamalan akong CB.
After that incident hindi na ako bumalik ng HP.
Kainis talaga. :mad2:
I won't recommend that you go into that mall.

hehe... baka cute ka daw :)

hehe. i agree. that mall sucks. an eyesore to tourists.

CB = callboy right?
hahaah...kasi nasa ayos mo naman yun. nkkasar nga pag me mga ganun. wg mo na lang pansinin. o kaya name your price really high. hahahaha...joke.

HARRISON PLAZA

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When I first came to the Philippines in 1996 at the age of 6, Harison Plaza was the first mall I've ever visited in Manila.It's kind of memorable to me.But I remember that it was kind of dusty and old compared to the other metro malls I've visited and that plaza in the pictures was actually an empty free space where pedestrians could walk through.

it's taboo to talk about gated villages here ;)

How I wished the Philippines would end the tradition of putting up gated villages.Why can't it be freely open to the public like in many other countries?Talaga, these are one of the things I hate about MM. Hopefully RP becomes a safer country oneday so that subs would not be iscolated. People get a bad impression of our country coz in public areas,they only get to see slum areas or residential highrises.

it looks pretty dark in the Harrison Plaza......

I love Harrisson Plaza. It has atmosphere. And very interesting shops. Just don't lean on the 2nd floor railings unless you want to make a quick buck.

oh deary me.... :fiddle:

it looks pretty dark in the Harrison Plaza......

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Harrison Plaza has skylights. That's probably why it's somewhat dimly lit inside the mall. Or do they have skylights? :dunno:

Thanks for those pictures of Harrison Plaza.

It looks like a palengke there, with all those cellphone booths and all.

Harrison Plaza should really think what it wants to be. Does it want to become a Greenhills? (i.e. be like a tiangge-type of an operation) or does it want to become a Megamall?(i.e. modern, cosmopolitan mall).

If it wants to be the latter, better start the renovations and redevelopment. The overall look really makes an impression like it was stuck in the 1970s.

Who could ever forget the V.V. Soliven Shopping Complex and the adjacent International Mall right smack at EDSA?

Thanks Kiretoce for the pics. We used to go in HP back in college...I miss the place. :)

I don't think the Powerplant Mall at Rockwell is a qualified success. It's only ever busy in the daytimes, and even then, it's empty. The problem is that Rockwell is too secluded from the rest of Makati to be as attractive as its more central competition, like Greenbelt.

Olivarez Mall , Tagaytay City -hindi talaga nag click , ginawang school at inn yung ibang portion .

TRAM Plaza in Sta. Rosa , Laguna - secluded .

buti mejo click pa ung olivares mall sa Los Baños.

Good Earth Emporium And Cod Dept Store

Sa Batangas city, wala naman. Naging successful naman ang Caedo (kung mall ngang matatawag un), saka ung Bay City Mall. Sa Lipa, ok naman ang Fiesta World Mall, saka un Robinson's Mall. May bagong itinatayo, SM City Batangas Mall...malamang magiging successful din. :)
malamang papatayin ng sm yung isang mall pag natayo na sya sa lipa

buti mejo click pa ung olivares mall sa Los Baños.
pangit nga yung olivarez dun sa LB, palaging amoy ihi yung cinema....

no one has still answered my question....why is it taboo to talk bout gated subdivisions?

Gated subdivision is exactly the opposite of what a skyscraper is trying to accomplish: density. But my statement was tongue-in-cheek.

TEC Cinemas in Tunasan , Muntinlupa City - small commercial center with 2 cinemas and several shops /fastfood , already closedown , poorly built cinemas .

AIRPORT Citimall , is it still operational ? All I can see is the AirForceOne bar located in it.

I like the interiors of Pearl Plaza in Paranaque , beautiful enough but its bad location cause it not to click .

Ever Gotesco , UniWide and RFC Malls in Las Pinas- SM Southmall ended their glory days . At least the Manuela mall there had a facelift / improvements done and catching up recently.

I hate that Harrison Plaza.
Tumambay ako dun once tapos a guy approached me and asked "Magkano ka?" grabe napagkamalan akong CB.
After that incident hindi na ako bumalik ng HP.
Kainis talaga. :mad2:
I won't recommend that you go into that mall.

haha! that happened tome too... pero at ali-mall! kainis! mukha ba kong lalakeng pok pok?!?!... hahaha!

Cge na, wag na mainis.
Think positive, ganyan lang yata talaga kapag cute. (Haha, joke lang - pero jokes are half meant).
So, moral lesson: Wag sumandal sa railings ng mga mall. :bash:

Btw, taga Uste ka rin pala Kenneth (mbassyambassador). Gusto mo meet tau minsan :colgate: dito lang ako sa eng'g.

grabe na ito mga tol....hahahaha...!!!
napapansin ko lang mga nkkpansin sa kin, mga mukang cheap. ganun ba ako kapangit? =( ingat nga kayo sa mga malls, kahit daw hi-end malls gaya ng Shangri la, me nangyayaring kababalaghan. so ingat mga poging kagaya ko...oppss...biro lang.

Hindi na bago yung sa Shangri la, dati nang may mga kababalaghang nagaganap dun.

Kasi kahit hi-end mall siya eh very accessible naman kaya invaded na siya ng mga jologs, biruin mo katabi lang niya ang Starmall at Edsa Central tapos connected pa sa MRT saka marami kang transportation options unlike Powerplant, Greenbelt and Podium na hindi ganon kadaling puntahan.

Thanks Kiretoce for the pics. We used to go in HP back in college...I miss the place. :)

You're welcome! Yeah, that place was once one of my favorite old haunts when I was still in high school. It brings back lots of fond memories. :)

I think there are still a big number of people going to SM Southmall. The department store and supermarket is always crowded everytime I go there. The cinemas, however is another story. The last time I went to watch a movie there, only about 8 to 10 of us watching... It's kinda freaky but at least u can always have the best seat... :horse:

Well Greenbelt3 isn't safe as well... kasi may visitor kaming Indian na tumambay sa may fountain ng Gbelt3... may lumapit sa kanyang 2 babae... hayun kinausap sya tapos nilibre pa nya sa Bubba Gump.. ewan ko ba.. hilig kasi sa chicks... after nun namalayan na lang nya nasa taxi na sya at dinala sa bahay nung mga babae at hinihingan na sya ng $500 ng tatay daw kuno.. na-Atiban Gang ata sya...

SM Southmall is very much crowded , as I said it knock down its competitors there in LP .
I always heard not so good things about SM Cinemas which seems hindi masyado priority ng SM na pagandahin compared to other malls .

mhe-ann, saan ka sa batnagas? My dad is from Lemery!

COD-Makati was a success. I am old enuf to remember COD during xmas. We would drive to Makati from QC just to watch the oversize xmass tree, train n all other mechanical stuff.

Guadalupe mall seems empty on some floors but thriving...

to be safe, wag na lang tumambay kung san san. do somethin like kain or walk around. that ends the topic:->

mhe-ann, saan ka sa batnagas? My dad is from Lemery!


kalapit nyo lan, Balayan po. :) Most of my classmates in college were from Lemery. :)

mhe-ann, saan ka sa batnagas? My dad is from Lemery!


kalapit nyo lan, Balayan po. :) Most of my classmates in college were from Lemery. :)

malamang papatayin ng sm yung isang mall pag natayo na sya sa lipa malayo naman ang Batangas City (na pinagtatayuan ng SM Mall) sa Lipa. So I guess there will be no much impact on malls in Lipa. ;D

Gated subdivision is exactly the opposite of what a skyscraper is trying to accomplish: density. But my statement was tongue-in-cheek.
ah....gets ko na......kala ko kasi this forum is trying to broaden up its topic..

kasi we also have post bout cebu city, even ayala alabang, and the provinces...

so, i though, maybe the forum is broaden into sights and scenes topic :)

Gated subdivision is exactly the opposite of what a skyscraper is trying to accomplish: density. But my statement was tongue-in-cheek.
btw what's the meaning of tongue-in-cheek.

Well Greenbelt3 isn't safe as well... kasi may visitor kaming Indian na tumambay sa may fountain ng Gbelt3... may lumapit sa kanyang 2 babae... hayun kinausap sya tapos nilibre pa nya sa Bubba Gump.. ewan ko ba.. hilig kasi sa chicks... after nun namalayan na lang nya nasa taxi na sya at dinala sa bahay nung mga babae at hinihingan na sya ng $500 ng tatay daw kuno.. na-Atiban Gang ata sya...
visitor nyo sa company?

wawa naman, na-ativan gang. :bash: