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wanton6 December 19th, 2004, 10:14 PM Lets post anything about The Ottoman Empire and remember our Great Ancesstors in this thread:bowtie:
Here are the Tugras Of Great Ottoman Sultans
Orhan Gazi (Orchan Ghazi)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra02.jpg
Sultan Murad Hudavendigar (Amurath I)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra03.jpg
Sultan Yildirim Bayezid (Bajazet I)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra04.jpg
Celebi Mehmed (mohammed I)
Celebi Mehmed (mohammed I)
Murad II (Amurath II)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra06.jpg
Fatih Sultan Mehmed (Mohammed II)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra07.jpg
Bayezid II (Bajazet II)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra08.jpg
Yavuz Sultan Selim (Selim I)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra09.jpg
Kanuni Sultan Suleyman (Soliman I)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra10.jpg
Selim II
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra11.jpg
Murad III (Amurath III)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra12.jpg
Mehmed III (Mohammed III)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra13.jpg
Ahmed I (Achmed I)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra14.jpg
Mustafa I (Mustapha I)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra15.jpg
Genc Osman (Othman II)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra16.jpg
Murad IV (Amurath IV)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra17.jpg
Ibrahim I
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra18.jpg
Mehmed IV (Mohammed IV)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra19.jpg
Suleyman II (Soliman II)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra20.jpg
Ahmed II (Achmed II)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra21.jpg
Mustafa II (Mustapha II)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra22.jpg
Ahmed III (Achmed III)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra23.jpg
Mahmud I (Mahmoud I)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra24.jpg
Osman III (Othman III)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra25.jpg
Mustafa III (Mustapha III)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra26.jpg
Abdulhamid I (Abdul Hamid I)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra27.jpg
Selim III
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra28.jpg
Mustafa IV (Mustapha IV)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra29.jpg
Mahmud II (Mahmoud II)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra30.jpg
Abdulmecid (Abdul Mecid)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra31.jpg
Abdulaziz (Abdul Aziz)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra32.jpg
Murad V (Amurath V)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra33.jpg
Abdulhamid II (Abdul Hamid II)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra34.jpg
Mehmed Resad (Mohammed Resad)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra35.jpg
Mehmed Vahiduddin (Mohammed Vahiduddin)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/tr_images/album/tugra36.jpg
The Ottoman borders in the death of Suleyman the Magnificent
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/h07.jpg
The Spoon-Maker's Diamond, Topkapı Palace
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/palaces13.jpg
The Topkapı Dagger, The Symbol of Topkapı Palace
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/palaces12.jpg
The Crystal Hall, Dolmabahçe Palace
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/palaces19.jpg
The Pink Hall, Dolmabahçe Palace
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/palaces20.jpg
Stained glasses of the Harem, Topkapı Palace
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/palaces10.jpg
The Sweetmeats Room, Harem, Topkapı Palace
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/palaces09.jpg
Imperial Hall, Harem, Topkapı Palace
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/palaces08.jpg
Harem, Topkapı Palace
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/palaces07.jpg
The Akagalar Gate, Topkapı Palace
The Akagalar Gate, Topkapı Palace
The Second Court of Topkapı Palace (Bab-us Selam)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/palaces01.jpg
Ertugrul Gazi (Ertugrul Ghazi).
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/port01.jpg
Osman Gazi (Othman Ghazi)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/port02.jpg
Orhan Gazi (Orchan Ghazi)
Orhan Gazi (Orchan Ghazi)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/port03.jpg
Fatih Sultan Mehmed ( II, The Conqueror)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/port08.jpghttp://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/port09.jpg
Kanuni Sultan Suleyman (Soliman I)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/port11.jpg
Sultan II. Selim
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/port12.jpg
"Geçmişini bilmeyen bir milletin asla geleceği
olmaz." "A nation which doesn't know its past;will never have a future."
MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATURK:applause:
falconi December 19th, 2004, 10:49 PM thank you for this nice history lesson!
:applause:
cok güzel sergilemisin ;)
wanton6 December 19th, 2004, 10:56 PM German ambassador Freiherr von Schwarzen’s appearance to the presence of Sultan Mehmet IV, painted by an European artist.(1651)
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/Paint03.jpg
Fatih Sultan Mehmet is in front of the Ayasofya after the siege of Istanbul.
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/Paint10.jpg
Fatih Sultan Mehmet’s entrance to Istanbul across the city walls.
http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/Paint11.jpg
Allan December 20th, 2004, 12:10 AM Interesting thread Wanton.I will contribute to it, but not now. I have a freaking exam tomorrow. I gotta study... :(
ameer December 20th, 2004, 09:14 AM Lovely pics... kinda makes me sad that such a great empire ended with a crappy ending.... Britain and France taking their share of it's lands and eventually they all got independence. As well as the European parts becoming independent.
And can you guys read those pics in Arabic?
Allan December 20th, 2004, 03:37 PM ^
Can you?
Taha December 21st, 2004, 07:53 AM http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/english/eng_images/album/h07.jpg
Cok guzel, harika, insan resimleri gorunce tuyleri diken diken oluyor. Bizim Osmanli ne buyuk isler yapmis. Resimler icin cok sagol Wanton. :applause:
ameer December 21st, 2004, 08:42 AM ^
Can you?
Sort of... it's kinda hard because it's written all fancy.
Allan December 21st, 2004, 08:43 AM ^
That's what I thought!
wanton6 December 21st, 2004, 04:54 PM teşekkürler arkadaşlar...desteğinizi bekliyorum...bu thread hiç eskimesin!!:okay:...bulduğumuz herşeyi gönderelim Osmanlı Devletiyle ilgili...ameer I agree with you about the sad ending of Ottoman Empire...but we still have the soul inside to keep them alive:angel:...sometimes this gives me the strength that I will need in my countrys near future...thanx for your participation in this thread, where are you from?
Tekir December 21st, 2004, 05:09 PM Isimlerin Ingilizce yazilislarini yazmasaydin daha iyi olurdu. Osman' a Othman falan derler mesela bazi kaynaklarda (Ilius Norwich' in Hostory of Byzantium' u ornek). Ben birinin bana Mahmut, Mohamad demesini istemem. Buradaki bir Alman, kendine Mayk dedirtmiyo, Mihail deme zorunlulugu koyuyor.
Fatih savastaydi, zirhi ile girdi sehre. ;) Ikinci resim daha dogru gibi...
Tabii tum bunlar tasvirlerle yapilmis olan resimler, bizim minaturlere bakilinca cok daha farkli oldugunu anliyorsun OSmanli Hanedaninin.
Urban Girl December 21st, 2004, 07:12 PM eline sağlık bence çok ii etmişsin böyle bi thread açarak
ælex December 23rd, 2004, 05:27 PM great job Wanton6,I appreciate your great strives to introduce our country and it's magnificent past...
ælex December 23rd, 2004, 09:03 PM Ottoman Flags
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ælex December 23rd, 2004, 09:25 PM The Armorial Bearing of Ottoman Empire
http://64.185.226.168/webs/osm/images/osmanli-devlet-armasi2.gif
http://yunus.hacettepe.edu.tr/~harun/n59199901.jpg
ælex December 24th, 2004, 02:49 AM http://www.sino.net/Lonely_Planet/turkey/1839-6.jpg
Topkapi-palace-balcony
http://www.sls.csail.mit.edu/klivescu/photos/turkey/01-11-topkapi-palace-balcony.jpg
Topkapi Palace
Mehmet II constructed Topkapi palace atop the Byzantine acropolis around 1500 A.D. and Ottoman sultans after him continued to build up the site. It was the residency of the sultan, his harem, and all the wives and concubines of the former sultans. They continued to reside here until 1909, when the harem was dissolved. Today the four courts and harem are open to visitors.
http://www.bibleplaces.com/images/Topkapi_palace_entrance,_tb_n122800.jpg
http://www.wan-press.org/turkey_gallery/images/topkapi%20palace.jpg
http://www5.airnet.ne.jp/sas/Photo/Istanbul/Topkapi%20Palace.jpg
http://www.bitrot.de/cis_topkapi1.jpghttp://www.bitrot.de/cis_topkapi4.jpg
St. Sophia Cistern
A legend about the design of the church says that one day during Mass, Emperor Justinian dropped the holy bread from his hands. Before he could grasp it, a bee picked it up and flew away. Justinian sent a message to all beekeepers in the empire to look for the bread in their hives. After a couple of days, a beekeeper arrived with a hive of peculiar design. Upon seeing it, Justinian decided that he would build a magnificent church with the design of this hive as its ground plan.
http://www.bibleplaces.com/images/St_Sophia_cistern2,_tb_n122800.jpg
Church of St. Irene
Before the Byzantine era, the city of Istanbul was called Byzantium. The Roman Emperor Constantine I made the site the new capital of the Roman Empire, naming it Constantinople. Shown here is the church of St. Irene. The 2nd church council was held in the church in 381, but that building burned down and was rebuilt by Justinian in 532. It was later enlarged by another ruler.
http://www.bibleplaces.com/images/Church_of_St_Irene,_location_of_2nd_council,_tb_n122800.jpg
The Blue Mosque
Between 1609 and 1616, the Blue Mosque, also called the Sultan Ahmet Camii, was partially built over the hippodrome and partially over the site of the Byzantine imperial palace. Sultan Ahmet I ordered architect Mehmet Aga to construct the mosque, possibly in competition with the Hagia Sophia, located just across from it. It has seven minarets and 260 windows.
http://www.bibleplaces.com/images/Blue_Mosque2,_tb_n012001.jpg
Urban Girl December 24th, 2004, 09:01 PM i think we can all Turkish empires in this thread, maybe Seljuk Empire or Göktürks(Skyturks) and all other Turkish tribes
Urban Girl December 24th, 2004, 09:45 PM and alex your avatar is the best avatr i have ever seen in this forum, very nice.
bu arada alex sen wanton musun?
3tmk December 25th, 2004, 01:18 AM Ottomans?
Just a bunch of cheap bastards if you ask me :jk:
No matter how much I hate them, I have to say that Vienna was just plain lucky, the Ottoman army was the fiercest in the world for around 2 centuries.
And I have to say that the sultan's signatures (or names?) look awesome, especially when compared to mine :D
ælex December 25th, 2004, 02:20 AM and alex your avatar is the best avatr i have ever seen in this forum, very nice.
bu arada alex sen wanton musun?
thank you Urban Girl;) FREEDOM is my character...
wanton6 December 25th, 2004, 06:00 PM Dolmabahçe Palace,İstanbul
http://dunyaturk.com/tr06/k_Bulent_dolmabahce_dis8.jpghttp://dunyaturk.com/tr06/k_Bulent_dolmabahce_ic2.jpghttp://dunyaturk.com/tr06/k_Bulent_dolmabahce_ic4.jpg
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http://dunyaturk.com/tr14/k_kemal_bereket_dolmabahce_sarayi10.jpghttp://dunyaturk.com/tr14/k_kemal_bereket_dolmabahce_sarayi15.jpghttp://dunyaturk.com/tr17/k_Cennet_Ataturk.jpg
http://dunyaturk.com/tr19/k_memocan_dolmabahce_sarayi09.jpghttp://dunyaturk.com/tr19/k_memocan_dolmabahce_sarayi10.jpghttp://dunyaturk.com/tr19/k_memocan_dolmabahce_sarayi13.jpg
http://dunyaturk.com/tr29/k_kemal_bereket_dolmabahce_saray06.jpg
wanton6 January 4th, 2005, 09:20 PM Ottoman Akinji Cavalryman, 16th Century
http://public.srce.hr/husar/Ottoman%20Akinji%20Light%20Cavalryman%2016st.jpg
Urban Girl January 10th, 2005, 08:59 PM Royal Academy of Arts;TURKS
some links;
http://www.turks.org.uk
www.royalacademy.org.uk
http://www.byegm.gov.tr/YAYINLARIMIZ/newspot/pictures/2004/nov-dec/n9_1.jpg
This exhibition explores the art and culture of the Turks from Inner Asia to Balkans over athousand year period between 600 and 1600AD. Their journey incorporated many different centers of power and artistic traditions.
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=national&alt=&trh=20050117&hn=15721
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London, England is preparing for an exhibit at the Royal Academy of Arts titled "Turks: A Journey of a Thousand Years, 600-1600" which opens on January 22nd. The historic journey begins with artifacts from the Uighur period and continues with artifacts from the Great Seljuk Empire of Iran and the Anatolian Seljuk period, and pieces belonging to the Iranian and Middle Asia Turkmens in Timurlenk Kingdom. The Royal Academy in London began to promote this giant event about Turkey, and Turkish and Ottoman history days ago. British newspapers announced the exhibit with various commentaries and news about the exhibition's opening which will be attended by the Turkish Culture and Tourism Minister Erkan Mumcu. A giant poster featuring a portrait of Mehmet the Conqueror in Piccadilly, where the Royal Academy is located, also promote the exhibit. The exhibit and related activities will continue until April 12th.
A thousand year accumulation of Turkish culture will be presented to Europeans for the first time in this three month long comprehensive since the exhibit titled "The Sword of Suleyman the Magnificient." The cultural and artistic richness of Turkish speaking peoples will be introduced in "Turks: A Journey of a Thousand Years, 600-1600." European art lovers will be able to see about 400 artifacts collected from the Topkapi Palace, the Sabanci Museum, and some famous foreign museums and culture palaces. About 350,000 people are expected to attend the exhibit and its related conferences and activities. Prominent invaluable collections from Topkapi Palace and the Istanbul Turkish and Islamic Traces Museum, in particular, as well as some private collections belonging to about 37 individuals and institutions in Europe and the US that have never been out of Istanbul before will be exhibited at the Royal Academy for the three month exhibition.
The creators of "Turks: A Journey of a Thousand Years, 600-1600" are Principle of the Topkapi Palace Museum Doctor Filiz Cagman, Former Principle of the Turkish and Islamic Traces Museum and Principle of the Sakip Sabanci Museum Doctor Nazan Olcer, the Royal Academy of Arts Exhibition Creator Adrian Locke, and Harvard University Professor on Islamic Arts David Roxburgh who is the responsible official for Norman Rosenthal exhibitions.
*Almost half-a-million people are excepted to visit a major exhibition in London of Turkish art and architecture
http://londra.kibrispostasi.com/?newsid=4904&category=119
*Heroic turkish art conquers the Royal Academy(independent)
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=602291
*The Guardian;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1392855,00.html
*And if you are interested in this big art event you can find a lot of sites about it with google.
Urban Girl January 20th, 2005, 04:39 PM ...
Taha January 20th, 2005, 07:11 PM Calisman cok guzel olmus wanton. Ellerine saglik ozelliklede akincinin resmi cok hos. Bizim yunanlilar gormesinler sonra korkabilirler. :lol: :horse:
Urban Girl January 21st, 2005, 03:25 PM kimse bu sergiyle ilgilenmiyomu şimdi
Joya September 22nd, 2005, 02:02 PM Examples of Ottoman palace fashion:
http://www.theottomans.org/english/images/art_culture/costume/buyuk/01.jpg
http://www.theottomans.org/english/images/art_culture/costume/buyuk/costume6.gif
http://www.theottomans.org/english/images/art_culture/costume/buyuk/04.gif
http://www.theottomans.org/english/images/art_culture/costume/buyuk/02.jpg
http://www.theottomans.org/english/images/art_culture/costume/buyuk/05.jpg
http://www.theottomans.org/english/images/art_culture/costume/buyuk/06.jpg
ozzy_fb October 7th, 2009, 06:51 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MFVpNVNXxg
realrealist November 6th, 2009, 04:38 PM arkadslar buraya fotograf nasil gonderebilirim?
socrates#1fan November 7th, 2009, 12:47 AM I'm curious.
I'm doing a bit of research on the Ottoman Empire.
I have a few questions.
1) What was the place of the woman?
2) What were popular styles in the peak of the Ottoman Empire? (clothing wise).
Thanks! :)
socrates#1fan November 7th, 2009, 12:51 AM Lovely pics... kinda makes me sad that such a great empire ended with a crappy ending.... Britain and France taking their share of it's lands and eventually they all got independence. As well as the European parts becoming independent.
And can you guys read those pics in Arabic?
I'm glad Greece is its own country.
Compared to the fall of other empires, the Ottomans were not that bad off (but they were not well off either).
Well, in the end a lot of the glory of the Ottoman Empire is still about Turkey. :)
Jünyus Brütüs November 7th, 2009, 02:48 PM 1) What was the place of the woman?
Harem:D
2) What were popular styles in the peak of the Ottoman Empire? (clothing wise).
What do you mean? Fashion?
socrates#1fan November 7th, 2009, 05:00 PM Harem:D
I mean outside of the Harem.
Were women better off? Or was it a highly conservative society? (for its time).
What do you mean? Fashion?
Yes, fashion. :)
Jünyus Brütüs November 7th, 2009, 09:27 PM I mean outside of the Harem.
Were women better off? Or was it a highly conservative society? (for its time).
Well, it depends on the period since It was an empire which survived for centuries. Even if we look at the women's right of past 50 years we can't talk just about a single period. That applies for Ottoman society too. As far as I believe that at the early years of Ottomans, women were leading factor in the society because women were quite valuable in Turkish culture when they were in Central Asia. And at the very early years of Ottomans there were even pagans still living in the society. But overall, from middle ages to late century Ottomans forced people to be strict and conservative. Altough it was never that conservative like todays Iran or Arabic Gulf countries.
As for rulling class(inside of palace) or elite class, the life was quite same with the rulling class of other Euro empires. Sultans or crown princesses known as machiavellianists and played big role in the palace society.
Yes, fashion. :)
Maybe these drawings or pictures help
http://www.2050.ws/elif/uploaded_images/hanim1-705384.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7043/6bgy6.jpg
http://img1.loadtr.com/b-367569-osmanl%C4%B1_kad%C4%B1nlar%C4%B1_muhabbet.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9254/1qzspahwxchb3.jpg
this one is a villager woman, there was a dress code in cities like you see above but villager women were wearing this kind of stuff at outside in small towns/villages
http://s.azbuz.com/uploads/p/81/7/346/817346/7500640.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6476/2bbr9.jpg
or here a drawing portray the garden of crown palace
http://img1.loadtr.com/b-367566-osmanl%C4%B1_kad%C4%B1nlar%C4%B1_.jpg
This one portrays Hürrem Sultan, wife of Suleiman the Magnificent. She is one of the most well known sultans in Ottoman history
http://www.resimvadisi.com/data/media/462/hrrem_sultan.jpg
many more you can find via google:)
realrealist December 10th, 2009, 12:14 PM fotograf yuklemek istiyorum ama nasil yukleyebilirim bilmiyorum。。
Leo10Rio December 12th, 2009, 10:30 PM Ottoman palaces are amazing, fully wealthy.
realrealist January 1st, 2010, 04:04 PM please those who have ottoman archieves share them with us!
AngerOfTheNorth September 27th, 2010, 06:56 PM This is a funny question I know, but does anyone have access to - or know where I could find - a plan (or plans), section and/or elevations of the Topkapi Palace? I know it's a hugely complex palace, but I'm trying to find a plan of the whole palace, plus a few details of the area of the throne room etc. I'm an architecture student and I'm really struggling to find anything, as I don't read or write any Turkish!
Any help would be hugely appreciated!
Turknology September 27th, 2010, 08:28 PM ^^
Are you looking for something like this?
http://www.tureb.net/topkapi_brosur.jpg
Rekarte October 16th, 2010, 09:17 PM Istanbul in 1890
Interior of the Great Bazar
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/408696356_b004e3e169_o.jpg
Galata bridge
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/408695877_b0fa0aa526_o.jpg
Panoramic view of Istanbul
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/408696102_68d0e42d95_o.jpg
Turkish cafe
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/402299323_6cff2b81ba_o.jpg
Palais Yildiz & Mosque Hamidie
In front of the Mosque, you can see the Sultan's procession to the friday prayers (Selamlik)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4298060374_ae970daec0_b.jpg
A photograph made by Sébah & Joaillier, photographers of the Sultan
Joya October 19th, 2010, 09:18 AM Istanbul in 1890
Galata bridge
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/408695877_b0fa0aa526_o.jpg
Sen git böyle güzel bir manzarayı 100 yıl sonra çirkin binalarla doldur, mahvet, yok böyle bir eziyet.
Erhan October 19th, 2010, 01:48 PM ^^ :ohno:
Thanks Rekarte for the pics, they are really great. I think this one is epic!! Look at the guy in the window :D
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/402299323_6cff2b81ba_o.jpg
Edit: I couldn't resist doing a Tenso on this pic :) For those who don't know this meme http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tenso
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9532/tensobg.jpg
Turknology October 19th, 2010, 03:12 PM ^^
When you see it, you'll shit bricks :D
Erhan October 27th, 2010, 10:40 AM This is so weird...I was looking for something completely different and I accidentally saw this picture and thought "Hmm I've seen this building before" and I remembered this thread.
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/ppmsca/22200/22268v.jpg
dan sam December 2nd, 2010, 08:12 AM Hi everybody !
This is so weird...I was looking for something completely different and I accidentally saw this picture and thought "Hmm I've seen this building before" and I remembered this thread.
Yes, I know the feeling: :)
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2453/stamboulcafe03.jpg
dan
Rekarte April 5th, 2011, 01:48 PM Büyükada (around 1900)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2133/2755717161_9627678436_b.jpg
A photograph made by Sébah & Joaillier, photographers of the Sultan
some others old pictures
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2610/3922670632_50f0e7059d_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2497/3921886387_5659059444_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/3921886691_049c070416_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3921886599_b2d1bbb287_b.jpg
by Flickr ASEAEMPIRE
Erhan May 18th, 2011, 03:59 AM This cafe is stalking me!
http://imageshack.us/m/21/8049/mehmetdabakaaa046.jpg
dan sam May 18th, 2011, 11:20 AM [QUOTE=Erhan;77968200]This cafe is stalking me!
@Erhan,
Thank you for the PM. This is a much circulated photo - and interesting.
dan
Ottoman Navy, XIX century (http://romaniaforum.info/index.php?page=Board&boardID=67)
Erhan May 18th, 2011, 01:19 PM I looked the pictures up, this picture is called "A Galata cafe" and can be found in
the book "Constantinople - John L. Stoddard's Lectures", by John L. Stoddard from 1897.
http://imageshack.us/m/21/8049/mehmetdabakaaa046.jpg
The other picture is by Pascal Sébah http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_short_cut_to_india_%281909%29._caffeeshop_in_diyarbakir.png
The funny thing is that I've tried to find another picture of the cafe now but I can't find any, it will probably appear somewhere when I'm looking for something else as usual :)
WaterOnMars May 19th, 2011, 01:05 AM cool thread!
(loved the Tenso, too)
dan sam May 19th, 2011, 08:08 AM The funny thing is that I've tried to find another picture of the cafe now but I can't find any, it will probably appear somewhere when I'm looking for something else as usual :)
With a little help (from my friends :) do you know it ?):
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/534/998001.jpg
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6350/776001.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1017/992001.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/348/815001.jpg
Smyrne:
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4766/674001.jpg
Enjoy !
Ottoman Navy, XIX century (http://romaniaforum.info/index.php?page=Board&boardID=67)
Erhan May 19th, 2011, 09:53 AM Do you mean Tineye? :) I meant that I couldn't find a NEW picture from this cafe, but you may have found one. The guy to the left (1) seems to be the same person as the one in the front (2) :D
(1)
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1017/992001.jpg
(2)
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/348/815001.jpg
serhat May 19th, 2011, 03:04 PM İçine etmişler şimdi şehrin içine
The Cake On BBQ May 19th, 2011, 10:02 PM Lolz İstanbul'u Prag gibi çizmişler, çokoş.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2610/3922670632_50f0e7059d_b.jpg
serhat May 20th, 2011, 08:22 PM İstanbul'u Prag gibi bir şehi kıyas etmek komik olur.Düzenli ve temiz bir şehir herkes Prag'a hayran.Almanlar 2. Dünya Savaşında şehre kıyamadı öbür şehirleri yıkarken.
System_Halted May 20th, 2011, 08:35 PM Viyana'ya kıydılar mı, ilahi Serhat.
serhat May 20th, 2011, 08:51 PM Ama Prag'a kıymadılar sen ona bak :D Amsterdam en az İstanbul kadar güzel diyen sendin.
System_Halted May 20th, 2011, 08:58 PM Güzel. :D Viyana'ya da kıymadıkları gerçeğini değiştirmez. :D
serhat May 20th, 2011, 09:01 PM :D:D Napsın zamanında Osmanlılar Viyana'yı zikemedi Almanlarda bari biz zikelim dediler :D
The Cake On BBQ May 20th, 2011, 09:10 PM Prag'a kıymamalarının nedeni Çekleri de übermensch Alman uygarlığının bir parçası olarak görmeleriydi ki zaten Çekler de Almanlara karşı direnmedi.
Asıl kıyamadıkları Şehir Parisdi, sen karıştırmışsın :D
Turknology May 20th, 2011, 09:31 PM biz onların yerine, bütün şehirler adına istanbula kıymışız, bu da tüm insanlık için yeter de artar bile.
coğrafi yapısı itibariyle dünyanın en mükemmel şehri olabilecek bir yerdi istanbul ama gel gör ki onun da içine etmeyi becermişiz.
serhat May 20th, 2011, 09:54 PM Turkno İstanbul için 2 ci Napolyon lazım adam Paris'i düzene soktu bize böyle adamlar lazım en azından Eskişehir belediye bakanı lazım yıllık geliri 190 milyar $ olan bir şehre kentsel dönüşüm olmazmı ya?
Turknology May 20th, 2011, 10:21 PM Turkno İstanbul için 2 ci Napolyon lazım adam Paris'i düzene soktu bize böyle adamlar lazım en azından Eskişehir belediye bakanı lazım yıllık geliri 190 milyar $ olan bir şehre kentsel dönüşüm olmazmı ya?
İstanbula minimum 9 şiddetinde deprem lazım
The Cake On BBQ May 21st, 2011, 05:43 PM ^^ Sanmıyorum, 8 civarı yeter de artar bile :lol:
serhat May 21st, 2011, 07:52 PM 4.5 bile yıkar :D
Alpos May 23rd, 2011, 01:45 PM FSM İstanbulu görseydi bu bademlerin suratına tükürürdü.
serhat May 23rd, 2011, 02:50 PM İstanbul'a Empire State, Sears Tower, Eyfel kulesi tarzı binalar lazım.Sulatanahmet cami tazi binalar değil.Eyfel kulesi mimari olarak Sultanahmet camiye 1000 basar.
Turknology May 23rd, 2011, 03:52 PM ^^
İkisi birbirinden farklı işlevleri ve farklı yapılış amaçları olan yapılar, o yüzden bence karşılaştırılmamalı.
Ancak İstanbul'un Dubai tarzı yapılara ihtiyacı yok, o işleve ve amaca uygun yapılacak yapılarda Dubaide kullanılan adeta "sonradan görmeyim" diye bağıran mimari yerine daha estetik ya da daha orijinal mimari kullanılabilir.
serhat May 23rd, 2011, 03:56 PM Turkno İstanbul'a Eskişehir Belediye başkanı gibi başkan olsun.Kentsel dönüşüm olsun Paris gibi düzenli olsun binalar bakımlı, kaldırımlar,Caddeler temiz geniş ve ferah olsun tadından yenmeyen şehir olur.Aynısı Ankara, İzmir, Antalya gibi şehirlerimizdede olsa güzel olur.Bizim büyük şehirlerin belediye başkanlarında vizyon yok.
Turknology May 23rd, 2011, 04:27 PM İstanbulun en büyük dezavantajı çok hızlı bir şekilde büyümüş olması, hep gecekondu mahallelerini yuta yuta genişlemiş, gecekondular apartmankondu olmuş, haliyle şu anda istanbulu dönüştürmek için herhalde orta halli bir ülkeyi kalkındırmak için yetecek bir bütçeye gerek vardır. tabi buna işin insani boyutunu da ekle, bu kadar aile yeni binalar yapılana kadar nerelerde yaşayacak, çünkü istanbuldaki binaların en az %60ı yıkılmadan istanbul gelişmiş bir dünya şehri görünümüne bürünemez. Bu yüzden istanbulu ancak çok şiddetli bir deprem paklar, evet çok şoke edici bir söz ama mevcut istanbul yıkılmadan yeni istanbul kurulamaz, ki onda bile yeniden yapılanmada eski tas eski hamam gidilmeyeceğinin hiçbir garantisi yok.
serhat May 23rd, 2011, 05:56 PM o konuda haklısın eski tas eski hamam zihniyetin de millet
Alpos May 23rd, 2011, 06:27 PM Deprem mi yapma lütfen. Depremle beraber bütün tarihi binalar yıkılır Turkno İstanbul kültürel turistik anlamını yitirir.
Turknology May 23rd, 2011, 06:33 PM Deprem mi yapma lütfen. Depremle beraber bütün tarihi binalar yıkılır Turkno İstanbul kültürel turistik anlamını yitirir.
yo, onlar dayanıklı, zaten bu kadar uzun süre bu yüzden ayakta kalabilmişler, ayrıca top atışıyla yıkılan mostar köprüsü bile çoğunlıkla enkazının malzemesi kullanılarak yeniden yapıldı, onlar da yapılır.
serhat May 23rd, 2011, 07:24 PM Alpos Ayasoya Sultanahmet, Süleymaniye gibi ünlü yapılar bunca sene nasıl ayakat durdu sanıyorsun her yüzyılda en az 3-4 deprem görmüş şehir İstanbul
Alpos May 24th, 2011, 12:40 PM Onlar tamamda Taksimdeki Beyoğlundaki eski evler? Onlar dayanabilir mi? 9 şiddetindeki bir depreme. Bence şehir boşaltılmalı sıfırdan ve planlı bir şekilde yapılmalı ki oda imkansız.
Newropean May 24th, 2011, 01:07 PM Bu yüzden istanbulu ancak çok şiddetli bir deprem paklar, evet çok şoke edici bir söz ama mevcut istanbul yıkılmadan yeni istanbul kurulamaz, ki onda bile yeniden yapılanmada eski tas eski hamam gidilmeyeceğinin hiçbir garantisi yok.
And the toll of human lives does not concern you..?
Turknology May 24th, 2011, 04:35 PM Onlar tamamda Taksimdeki Beyoğlundaki eski evler? Onlar dayanabilir mi? 9 şiddetindeki bir depreme. Bence şehir boşaltılmalı sıfırdan ve planlı bir şekilde yapılmalı ki oda imkansız.
Milletin şehirleri ayakta duruyor, sonuçta İstanbul var olduğundan beri deprem yaşamış bir şehir, 9 şiddetinde deprem olamaz diye bir garanti de yok, eski peradaki evler belli olmaz, mimari yapıları sağlam, kullanılan malzeme sağlam, belli olmaz. (ama ezbere konuşmamak lazım, belki deprem testi yapmışlardır o binalar için son dönemlerde, belki armazıda bir bilen vardır).
Turknology May 24th, 2011, 04:36 PM And the toll of human lives does not concern you..?
Istanbul is at the end of the Northern Anatolian fault line, one of the most active earthquake zones in the world.
we have a saying: kendi düşen ağlamaz.
also I wouldn't want anyone to have to undergo chemotherapy, but it's better than them dying from cancer.
Triple C May 24th, 2011, 08:38 PM ^^ Vay Nekropolit vay...
The Cake On BBQ May 24th, 2011, 10:43 PM Onlar tamamda Taksimdeki Beyoğlundaki eski evler? Onlar dayanabilir mi? 9 şiddetindeki bir depreme. Bence şehir boşaltılmalı sıfırdan ve planlı bir şekilde yapılmalı ki oda imkansız.
Dayanırlar, belki de ortadan ikiye çatlarlar vs ama düzeltilebilir, onlar da taştan yapılmış binalar sonuçta.
WaterOnMars May 26th, 2011, 12:09 AM from last year's exhibition in Dresden
http://online.wsj.com/media/030110pod07.jpg
http://blogs.wsj.com/photojournal/2010/03/01/pictures-of-the-day-357/
Wallstreet Journal
(Ralf Hirschberger/DPA/ZUMA Press)
Lombak May 26th, 2011, 12:12 AM WOW This is so cool.
Erhan May 26th, 2011, 12:20 AM Daaamn that's awesome! Thanks for sharing, didn't even know these existed.
WaterOnMars May 26th, 2011, 04:06 AM ^^
me neither... a friend sent me a link to the pictures and I was like... wow... I could really enjoy spending a couple of nights there :cheers:
same, on Youtube
The Return of a Dream: Re-erection of the Ottoman state tent in Dresden
The trial erection of the grand Ottoman state tent in the rooms of the Dresden Royal Palace was awaited with great excitement.
Hardly surprising, as the Oriental treasures of the future Türckische Cammer were last presented in the Johanneum in Dresden 70 years ago.
....
The tent is later to stand in the exhibition rooms on the second floor, at the heart of the Royal Palace.
It will then be possible to admire the impressive dimensions once more: 20 metres long, 8 metres wide and 6 metres high.
The magnificent floral appliqué inside the tent is a symbolic reference to the Garden of Paradise.
The origins of the grand Ottoman tent are somewhat clouded. It became part of the royal tent collection during the reign of Augustus the Strong, in the course of the so-called Zeithainer Lager festivities in 1730. It was at that time common to incorporate Oriental tents as settings into festivities and parades.
From March 2010, the work of art will be one of the highlights of the new permanent exhibition Türckische Cammer in the Dresden Royal Palace.
dPOrRf5Q1WU
WaterOnMars June 7th, 2011, 12:54 AM At that time Istanbul was the largest city in Europe, with a population of a quarter million or so. The smaller town to the east is Pera. The little island just south of the city was known as Leander's Tower.
At the southern tip of the city is the great palace of the Ottoman sultans. Look carefully and you'll see a label identifying the New Seraglio. Today the complex is known as the Topkapi Palace.
Just to the left is a church--you can see it labelled "S. Sophia". That's the Hagia Sophia. To the left of that is the old Roman ground, including the ruins of the Hippodrome.
http://www.boisestate.edu/courses/reformation/maps/citymaps/Istanbul.jpg
Source (http://www.boisestate.edu/courses/reformation/maps/istanbul.shtml)
yasinaydin June 7th, 2011, 07:14 PM Şeyh Edebali'nin Osman Gazi'ye nasihati
Ey Oğul!
Beysin! Bundan sonra öfke bize; uysallık sana... Güceniklik bize; gönül almak sana.. Suçlamak bize; katlanmak sana.. Acizlik bize, yanılgı bize; hoş görmek sana.. Geçimsizlikler, çatışmalar, uyumsuzluklar, anlaşmazlıklar bize; adalet sana.. Kötü göz, şom ağız, haksız yorum bize; bağışlama sana... Bundan sonra bölmek bize; bütünlemek sana.. Üşengeçlik bize; uyarmak, gayretlendirmek, şekillendirmek sana..
Ey Oğul!
Yükün ağır, işin çetin, gücün kıla bağlı, Allah Teala yardımcın olsun. Beyliğini mübarek kılsın. Hak yoluna yararlı etsin. Işığını parıldatsın. Uzaklara iletsin. Sana yükünü taşıyacak güç, ayağını sürçtürmeyecek akıl ve kalp versin. Sen ve arkadaşlarınız kılıçla, bizim gibi dervişler de düşünce, fikir ve dualarla bize va’dedilenin önünü açmalıyız. Tıkanıklığı temizlemeliyiz.
Oğul!
Güçlü, kuvvetli, akıllı ve kelamlısın. Ama bunları nerede ve nasıl kullanacağını bilmezsen sabah rüzgarlarında savrulur gidersin.. Öfken ve nefsin bir olup aklını mağlup eder. Bunun için daima sabırlı, sebatkar ve iradene sahip olasın!.. Sabır çok önemlidir. Bir bey sabretmesini bilmelidir. Vaktinden önce çiçek açmaz. Ham armut yenmez; yense bile bağrında kalır. Bilgisiz kılıç da tıpkı ham armut gibidir. Milletin, kendi irfanın içinde yaşasın. Ona sırt çevirme. Her zaman duy varlığını. Toplumu yöneten de, diri tutan da bu irfandır.
İnsanlar vardır, şafak vaktinde doğar, akşam ezanında ölürler. Dünya, senin gözlerinin gördüğü gibi büyük değildir. Bütün fethedilmemiş gizlilikler, bilinmeyenler, ancak senin fazilet ve adaletinle gün ışığına çıkacaktır. Ananı ve atanı say! Bil ki bereket, büyüklerle beraberdir. Bu dünyada inancını kaybedersen, yeşilken çorak olur, çöllere dönersin. Açık sözlü ol! Her sözü üstüne alma! Gördün, söyleme; bildin deme! Sevildiğin yere sık gidip gelme; muhabbet ve itibarın zedelenir...
Şu üç kişiye; yani cahiller arasındaki alime, zengin iken fakir düşene ve hatırlı iken, itibarını kaybedene acı! Unutma ki, yüksekte yer tutanlar, aşağıdakiler kadar emniyette değildir.
Haklı olduğun mücadeleden korkma! Bilesin ki atın iyisine doru, yiğidin iyisine deli (korkusuz, pervasız, kahraman, gözüpek) derler.
En büyük zafer nefsini tanımaktır. Düşman, insanın kendisidir. Dost ise, nefsi tanıyanın kendisidir. Ülke, idare edenin, oğulları ve kardeşleriyle bölüştüğü ortak malı değildir. Ülke sadece idare edene aittir. Ölünce, yerine kim geçerse, ülkenin idaresi onun olur. Vaktiyle yanılan atalarımız, sağlıklarında devletlerini oğulları ve kardeşleri arasında bölüştüler. Bunun içindir ki, yaşayamadılar.. (Bu nasihat Osmanlı’yı 600 sene yaşatmıştır.) İnsan bir kere oturdu mu, yerinden kolay kolay kalkmaz. Kişi kıpırdamayınca uyuşur. Uyuşunca laflamaya başlar. Laf dedikoduya dönüşür. Dedikodu başlayınca da gayri iflah etmez. Dost, düşman olur; düşman, canavar kesilir!..
Kişinin gücü, günün birinde tükenir, ama bilgi yaşar. Bilginin ışığı, kapalı gözlerden bile içeri sızar, aydınlığa kavuşturur. Hayvan ölür, semeri kalır; insan ölür eseri kalır. Gidenin değil, bırakmayanın ardından ağlamalı... Bırakanın da bıraktığı yerden devam etmeli. Savaşı sevmem. Kan akıtmaktan hoşlanmam. Yine de, bilirim ki, kılıç kalkıp inmelidir. Fakat bu kalkıp-iniş yaşatmak için olmalıdır. Hele kişinin kişiye kılıç indirmesi bir cinayettir. Bey memleketten öte değildir. Bir savaş, yalnızca bey için yapılmaz. Durmaya, dinlenmeye hakkımız yok. Çünkü, zaman yok, süre az!..
Yalnızlık korkanadır. Toprağın ekim zamanını bilen çiftçi, başkasına danışmaz. Yalnız başına kalsa da! Yeter ki, toprağın tavda olduğunu bilebilsin. Sevgi davanın esası olmalıdır. Sevmek ise, sessizliktedir. Bağırarak sevilmez. Görünerek de sevilmez!.. Geçmişini bilmeyen, geleceğini de bilemez.
Osman! Geçmişini iyi bil ki, geleceğe sağlam basasın.
Nereden geldiğini unutma ki, nereye gideceğini unutmayasın...”
DU999 June 7th, 2011, 08:14 PM Osmanoglu ailesi bugün/Ottoman family today
Osman Selaheddin Osmanoğlu, kızı/his daughter Ayşe Gülnev Sultan Sutton, İngiliz eşi/her English husband Nicolas Sutton, oğlu/his son Orhan Murad Osmanoğlu, eşi/his Brazilian wife Brezilyalı Patricia Osmanoğlu, grandchildren/torunlar Turan Cem, Tamer Nihat Osmanoğlu, oğlu/his son Selim Süleyman Osmanoğlu eşi/his wife Alev Osmanoğlu, torunlar/grandchildren Ziya Sutton, Tarık Sutton, Ali Sutton, Cengiz Sutton, Aliye Sutton, Osmanoğlu’nun boşandığı eşi/ex wife Athena Hanım
http://imgkelebek.hurriyet.com.tr/LiveImages%5CKelebek%20Haber%20Galerisi%5C173%5C%C5%9Eehzade%20Osman%20Selaheddin%20Osmano%C4%9Flu%27nun%2070%27inci%20do%C4%9Fum%20g%C3%BCn%C3%BCn%C3%BC%5CD25121452.jpg
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Lombak June 7th, 2011, 08:21 PM :D cok iyi DU999..... " cuk " diye oturma sesini burdan duydum. :D
Triple C June 7th, 2011, 09:02 PM Bir çağdaşlık var.
patron_us June 8th, 2011, 08:31 PM Yukarıdaki resimler Marmaristen..! Geçen sene vefat eden Ertuğrul Osman efendinin evinde her sene tüm aile toplanırlarmış. O kareler oradan...
Ertuğrul Osman Osmanoğlu;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsWc8ejVu0#t=25m50s
The Cake On BBQ June 8th, 2011, 10:46 PM En garbdaki Haşmetlimiz pek bir cool-ül şirin imiş...
http://imgkelebek.hurriyet.com.tr/LiveImages%5CKelebek%20Haber%20Galerisi%5C173%5C%C5%9Eehzade%20Osman%20Selaheddin%20Osmano%C4%9Flu%27nun%2070%27inci%20do%C4%9Fum%20g%C3%BCn%C3%BCn%C3%BC%5CD25121317.jpg
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Leofold June 9th, 2011, 07:07 AM Bu sarı pipiler şimdi çıkıp da burası osmanlı toprağı lan, itaat edin derlerse çok gülerim :lol:
DU999 June 9th, 2011, 09:45 PM Yukarıdaki resimler Marmaristen..! Geçen sene vefat eden Ertuğrul Osman efendinin evinde her sene tüm aile toplanırlarmış. O kareler oradan...
Ertuğrul Osman Osmanoğlu;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsWc8ejVu0#t=25m50s
Hayir. Ertugrul Osmanoglu ölünce ayle lideri misir dogumlu Osman Selaheddin Osmanoglu oldu.
Kisin ingilterede yasiyor yazin ailesiyle resimde gözüken villada Bodrumda bulusuyorlar. Bu fotograflarda gecen yaz Osman Selaheddin Osmanoglunun dogum gününde cekildi. (Nedense hep güney sahilerde yasamayi terch ediyorlar ;) )
Arasira davet olunca mesala Balo geceleri Istanbula geliyorlar.
Rus Baskonsoloslugu balosu Osman Selaheddin Osmanoglu
http://www.jetsetistanbul.com/images/haberresim/osman-selahattin-osmanoglu.jpg
evet bir kadinla dans ediyor nerde o eski haremlik selamlik günler :lol:
Onura katiliyorum inadina yola devam diyenler pek sevmez ama evet dogruya dogru bir cagdaslik var resimlerde.
Alpos June 10th, 2011, 11:04 AM En garbdaki Haşmetlimiz pek bir cool-ül şirin imiş...
http://imgkelebek.hurriyet.com.tr/LiveImages%5CKelebek%20Haber%20Galerisi%5C173%5C%C5%9Eehzade%20Osman%20Selaheddin%20Osmano%C4%9Flu%27nun%2070%27inci%20do%C4%9Fum%20g%C3%BCn%C3%BCn%C3%BC%5CD25121317.jpg
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eheh sonunuz arap prensi gibi olmasın cake dikkat et. :D
Gadiri June 10th, 2011, 05:25 PM Until Japan !
From moroccan forum (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=614126&page=4)
Tokyo Camii & Turkish Culture Center
http://www.tokyocamii.org
The Turkish community who emigrated from Kazan (Russia) built the Tokyo Camii in 1938, the foundation of which stems from the hospitality of the respected people of Japan, and was rebuilt in 2000 owing to some serious damage that it was exposed to. We believe it is performing and will continue to perform its duty as a bridge between the past and the future, and is beautiful in other aspects due to certain unique features. While not departing from the ties of the past with its construction in the classical Ottoman architecture style, it also has an enlightening purpose for the future through various architectural points that attract attention in both construction technology and the multipurpose hall which is a venue for wedding ceremonies, fashion shows, plays, exhibitions and conferences on the first floor.
We have no doubt that Tokyo Camii will be an alternative place of true learning about the religion of Islam, being a frequent place to visit for hundreds of Japanese every day and would contribute to the centenary relations between the Turkish and Japanese people.
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WaterOnMars June 21st, 2011, 05:20 AM A pair of knee-high 16 Century Ottoman boots with appliques leather designs
http://amtwiki.net/amtwiki/images/thumb/1/17/Appliqued_leather_boots.sized.jpg/503px-Appliqued_leather_boots.sized.jpg
Source (http://amtwiki.net/amtwiki/index.php/Category:Ottoman_Garb)
Topkapi Saray Müsezi 2/4447
The Age of Sultan Süleyman the Magnificent. p.166
They are housed in the Topkapı Saray Museum, for centuries the Palace of the reigning Ottoman Sultans. They were made for and worn by Sultan Selim II (1524-74), son of the great Sultan Süleyman. Atöl Esin provides us with this information on these boots and the use of leather appliqué:
Leather appliqués were employed on a variety of riding equipment, including saddles, saddlecloths, coats, hats, gloves, and boots, including a pair worn by Selim II, according to the Topkapı Palace registers. Made of tan leather lined with pink satin, they are appliquéd with dark red scrolls bearing rumis and palmettes outlined with thick silver threads that create an effect not unlike twisted wire around the motifs. The soles, constructed of thick leather, are flat, and the toes are slightly pointed. This extraordinary pair of high boots is one of the earliest examples of Ottoman footwear surviving from the sixteenth century.
Source (valkyrja.shawwebspace.ca/asset/view/20675/inlaid_applique_slippers.pdf) - includes other Ottoman footwear as well
More Ottoman boots from the Topkapı Saray Museum
http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/Costume/Otto/OttoBootsTopkapi.jpg
Source (http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/JanissaryHeadgear.htm)
Simpler, less ornate Tatar boots from the same period (I'm not sure if Tatar would qualify as Ottoman, but I decided to add them anyways because they are cool)
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3331/tartarboot.jpg
A pair of Tartar boots dated to 1582, pictured below, which currently reside in the Livrustkammaren museum in Stockhold, Sweeden…. Originally, this boot is thought to have been a present from the Khan of the Crimean Tartars during his visit to the Stockholm at the end of the century
And more detail from the boots:
http://aands.org/raisedheels/Lesson4/holes.jpg
There are two holes at the side which serve to assist the wearer in pulling the boot on. Along these holes, there are actually small stitching holes along the edge of these holes which probably once contained some kind of ornamentation.
http://aands.org/raisedheels/Lesson4/ridges.jpg
Note also that there are ridges down the front of the boot. These were intended to be riding boots, and even today, some modern cowboy boots have ridges, perhaps to both protect the vamp of the boot itself as well as to better hold the stirrup in place. The ridges could have been sewn into the boot itself or possibly tooled.
http://aands.org/raisedheels/Lesson4/braid_bristle_large.jpg
…there is also braid along the quarters where the stacked heel is. There is also what seems to be a vertical bit of braid on the far left side, just above the quarters seam, and beneath a bunch of boar bristles.
Source (http://aands.org/raisedheels/Lesson4/tartar.php)
Rekarte June 23rd, 2011, 09:16 PM ^^
very interesting,man:)
WaterOnMars July 1st, 2011, 07:01 AM Painting the Orient
Works of western artists inspired by the Ottoman world - I
Jean-Étienne Liotard
Swiss Miniaturist, 1702-1789
http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/liotard_jean-etienne.html
Jean-Étienne Liotard first trained as a miniature painter in Geneva, where he mastered the extraordinary fineness of application that was to be the hallmark of his pastel style. While in his twenties he sought his fortune in Paris, where he studied in a prominent painter's studio. After rejection by the Académie Royale, he traveled to Italy, where he obtained numerous portrait commissions.
Liotard next embarked on a journey throughout the Mediterranean region and in 1738 he followed his patron Lord Duncannon to Istanbul, where he settled for four years. Intrigued by the native dress, he grew a long beard and acquired the habit of dressing as a Turk, earning himself the nickname of "the Turkish painter." While in Constantinople, he painted portraits of members of the British colony.
For the remainder of his life, Liotard traveled throughout Europe painting portraits in pastels. He gained an international reputation in this medium for his care and skill in achieving an accurate likeness of his sitters. He continued to wear his favourite Turkish garb in Europe and he even painted his eminent clients, including the Empress Maria Theresa, in Turkish costume.At the age of seventy-nine, he published a treatise on the principles of painting, in which he explained his belief that painting is and should be a mirror of nature.
Paintings
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Self Portrait
© Uffizi Gallery, Florence
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4883/mariead.jpg
Marie-Adelaide of France (the daughter of King Louis XV) in Turkish Dress, 1753
© Uffizi Gallery, Florence
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1562/jeantienneliotardportre.jpg
Marie Fargues (the painter’s wife) in Turkish Costume, 1755
© Schilderijencollectie Rijksmuseum
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/727/orientalsmokinghookah.jpg
Man smoking a hookah
© The Samuel Courtauld Trust, The Courtauld Gallery, London
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6730/me00000291003.jpg
M. Levett et Mlle Glavani en costume turc
© Musée du Louvre
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/8964/loitardjeanetiennealady.jpg
A lady in Turkish Costume with her Servant at the Hammam
© Art Renewal Centre (ARC) – Private Collection
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9445/turkish.jpg
Turkish lady with tambourine
© Musée d'Art et d'Histoire, Geneva
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3299/jeanetienneliotardpoe.jpg
Orientalist Richard Pococke in Turkish costume
© Musée d'Art et d'Histoire, Geneva
French lady from Pera
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8964/4dpictfile20rec53.jpg
© Musée d'Art et d'Histoire, Geneva
Young lady with dagger
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/9421/youngladywithdagger.jpg
© Museum of Islamic Art, Doha
Drawings
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/7998/d0113038000.jpg
Young woman, Istanbul
© Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts graphiques
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Istanbul lady
© Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts graphiques
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Portrait of M. Levett, English merchant, in Tatar costume
© Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts graphiques
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A lady in Turkish Costume at the Hammam
© Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts graphiques
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Orientalist Richard Pococke in Turkish costume
© Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts graphiques
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Portrait de Mehemet Aga
© Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts graphiques
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Tatar couple
© Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts graphiques
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Turkish warrior
© Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts graphiques
Rekarte July 5th, 2011, 05:35 AM ^^
Wow,awesome pictures,thanks for sharing:)
WaterOnMars July 11th, 2011, 12:14 AM THE FOSSATI BROTHERS
The Sultan's Architects
Gaspare Fossati
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Gaspare (1809-1883) and Giuseppe (1822-1891) Fossati were born in Ticino, Switzerland. They finished primary and middle school in Venice and studied architecture at the Brera Academy in Milano. After graduation from the Academy, Gaspare researched Roman and Renaissance buildings until 1833. He participated in the Pesto, Ercolano and Pompeii excavation works. In 1833, Gaspare went to Russia and joined the colony of Italian artists there. For a short while, he became famous and had many projects and commissions. At the end of 1836, he received the title of “court architect” in St. Petersburg and was appointed to Istanbul for the project of building in the Russian Embassy. During his stay in Istanbul, Gaspare worked with many Italian and local artists’ teams, including with his brother Giuseppe Fossati. The Fossati brothers completed more than 50 projects during the Tanzimat reform era in Turkey. Between 1841 and 1843, the Fossati brothers built the brick Bab-ı Seraskeri Hospital (Bekirağa Bölüğü) and Liman İskelesi Karakolu in Eminönü for the Ottoman Administration. As a result of the brothers’ success, they were formally appointed to renovate Arzuodası at Babıali in 1844, and to build important buildings in Sultanahmet such as Dârülfünun (university) (1845-1846), Hazine-i Evrak, and Mekteb-i Sanayi (1846-1848).
In 1847, Sultan Abdülmecid (1839-1861) appointed the Fossati brothers to renovate the Hagia Sophia. They completed the restoration in two years, utilizing more than eight hundred workers. They repaired the cracks in the domes and placed an iron chain around its base to support and strengthen it. The mosaics that had been covered during the reign of Sultan Mehmed II. were uncovered and repaired by order of the sultan. The Fossati brothers removed the Sultan’s lodge from the apse, and they built a new one against the pier to the north apse, with a gilded grille to conceal the Sultan. The new Sultan’s lodge was designed by Gaspare Fossati. He made the carved marble grille in the Turkish Rococo style and the columns in Byzantine style. The brothers also renovated the mihrab and the minbar. Their work on the Hagia Sophia was published in London as the album Aya Sophia of Constantinople as Recently Restored by order of H. M. The Sultan Abdulmedjid (1852). During their restoration work on the Hagia Sophia, they also added the entrance for the Sultan, Hünkar Mahfili (Sultan’s gallery), Kasr-ı Hümayun and the Muvakkithanesi (Clock Room). The Telgrafhane-i Amire building was built by Giussepe Fossati in 1855. Upon the death of Reşit Paşa in 1858, the Fossati brothers built his mausoleum in the corner of the graveyard in the Bayezit complex.
The Fossati brothers not only worked for Turks, but also for foreigners who resided in Istanbul. They built San Pietro Church in Galata between 1841 and 1843. They also renovated Venedik Palace (today the house of the Italian Ambassador) in 1853, and the Dutch Embassy in Beyoğlu in 1854. They built the Spanish (1854) and Iranian (1856) embassies in Istanbul. In addition, they built three Italian theaters. One of them was the Naum Theatre, which was built in Galatasaray in 1846. It was active until a fire destroyed it in 1870.
In addition to these buildings, the Fossati brothers also created many residences for Ottoman officers, such as Mustafa Reşit Paşa, Fuat Paşa, Ali Paşa, Ömer Paşa Hasib Paşa, Kamil Bey and Şevket Bey, and for Levantines, including Ottoni, Pedemonte, Spadaro, Srwdano Vagorides, Petrocochino, and Della Suda. Two of these houses, which were generally built in Pera and on the Bosphorus, are Reşit Paşa Palace (1847; today the Baltalimanı Osteopathic Hospital) and Hünkar Dairesi (1855; today the Social facility at Istanbul University)
In 1858, the Fossati brothers returned to their country, due to the reduced demand for new buildings, and the death of Reşit Paşa, who supported them. In Morcote, Switzerland, they built their own homes in the Turkish style. Gaspare moved to Milano in 1862. He designed the Duomo Square, and served as a jury member for applications for many works, including Galleria Vitoria Emmanuelle II, and Palazzo Marino. The Fossatis are buried in Morcote. In the Belizean Cantonal Archive in Switzerland, there are more than one thousand of their designs, layouts and other documents, which contain important information about Istanbul.
The Fossati brothers’ works in Istanbul:
Russian Embassy (1837)
Dârülfünun (1846)
Hazine-i Evrak Building (1846)
Hagia Sophia restoration (1847-49)
Bekir Ağa Bölüğü (1841-1843; currently the Faculty of Political Sciences at Istanbul University)
Reşid Paşa Palace (1847)
Lamartine (1850)
Hünkâr Dairesi (1855; currently the Social Facility at Istanbul University)
Reference: Doğan Kuban, Osmanlı Mimarisi (Istanbul: Yem Yayın, 2007); Ottoman Civilization 1, 2, edited by Halil İnalcık and Günsel Renda, (Ankara: Ministry of Culture and Tourism, 2009).
Some works of art from their album:
Hagia Sophia
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1423/39623650.jpg
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/5705/97355345.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4921/33129547.jpg
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/465/64301735.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5912/sophiaq.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2447/sophia2o.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2810/sophia3.jpg
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2231/sophia4k.jpg
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5287/sophia5.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4476/sophia9.jpg
Fragments of the Istanbul panorama
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3151/viewd.jpg
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2929/view2l.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3416/view3.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4851/view4u.jpg
Via Byzantneee (http://byzantineee.blogspot.com/)
Turkish Cultural Foundation ( http://www.turkishculture.org/architecture/architects/the-fossati-brothers-959.htm)
and Archaeology ( http://www.archaeology.org/0311/abstracts/hagia.html)
manon November 9th, 2011, 05:43 PM thank you for sharing excellent images and paintings of Magnificent Ottoman Emprire
-:UberMann:- December 18th, 2011, 02:01 AM Hey why don't turks of today write in middle eastern characters? I see they used them in the past, like this featuring Suleiman:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Sueleymanname_nahcevan.jpg/435px-Sueleymanname_nahcevan.jpg
And not to mention the signatures of ottoman sultans.
Today they use the latin alphabet.
Erhan December 18th, 2011, 03:41 PM Read about Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk) and you will get your answer :)
SoroushPersepolisi December 18th, 2011, 10:33 PM Hey why don't turks of today write in middle eastern characters? I see they used them in the past, like this featuring Suleiman:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Sueleymanname_nahcevan.jpg/435px-Sueleymanname_nahcevan.jpg
And not to mention the signatures of ottoman sultans.
Today they use the latin alphabet.
what book is it from? the miniature is in the ottoman style, the book is ottoman, but the poetry is persian, i can even read it
very nice:)
Arda_1923 December 18th, 2011, 11:00 PM Persia is really nice...
Do you miss Imperial İran as public?
Also, what the miniature about?
manon December 18th, 2011, 11:14 PM what book is it from? the miniature is in the ottoman style, the book is ottoman, but the poetry is persian, i can even read it
very nice:)
Almost all of the Ottoman sultan speaks Arabic & Persian, and almost all of them are poet and artist.
DU999 December 18th, 2011, 11:55 PM The official Ottoman language was a mix of arabic, persian and turkish so it was pretty normal that the ruler of the state knew arabic and persian.
The normal folk on the other hand spoke simple turkish of that time.
SoroushPersepolisi December 19th, 2011, 01:05 AM Persia is really nice...
Do you miss Imperial İran as public?
Also, what the miniature about?
thankyou
yes, me and most Iranians miss the pre-revolution Iran
it wasnt the best, but far far better than the current islamic dictatorship
and the miniature is about the attack of an army towards another kingdom, in which (apparently) one messenger of one army moves towards the other army, coming across a servant (as said in the written parts)
i cant really tell since its only 4 lines, i believe this is from Ferdosi's "Shahnameh"
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