just a quick note. dec 21 is summer solstice or longest day.


the Blue Mountains even celebrate it!!

http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/whatson/default.asp?ID=4493
:cheers:

In pagan times, it was celebrated as the "coming of the sun"

Free cookie for anyone who can guess the religion that ripped it off!

It might be the longest day here but check out London:

Sunrise: 8:04 AM
Sunset: 3:54 PM

as apposed to Brisbane:

Sunrise: 4:50 AM
Sunset: 6:43 PM

I thought it was the 22nd it was on.

love it being light so late
i get up and come home in full daylight great

I thought it was the 22nd it was on.
most years it differs from 21st,22nd and 23rd. also for shortest day in June.

In pagan times, it was celebrated as the "coming of the sun"

Free cookie for anyone who can guess the religion that ripped it off!
vikings,aztecs in south america, egyptians,druids i could go on.lol

Tuesday 21 December 2004

Melbourne:
Sunrise 5:55am
Sunset 8:42pm

Sydney
Sunrise 5:41am
Sunset 8:06pm

Brisbane
Sunrise 4:50am
Sunset 6:42pm

Melbourne and Sydney have a hell of a lot more useful sunshine today then Brisbane!

Now if that isn't a good enough reason for Brisbane to be on daylight saving time, then I don't know what is.

Tuesday 21 December 2004

Melbourne:
Sunrise 5:55am
Sunset 8:42pm

Sydney
Sunrise 5:41am
Sunset 8:06pm

Brisbane
Sunrise 4:50am
Sunset 6:42pm

Melbourne and Sydney have a hell of a lot more useful sunshine today then Brisbane!

Now if that isn't a good enough reason for Brisbane to be on daylight saving time, then I don't know what is.

My wife usually gets up at the crack of dawn and I know of nothing worse than getting woken up at around 4.50am in the morning and trying to get back to bed. Im all for Daylight savings, F*ck the cows!!!

who the heck is up at 4:50 what a waste of daylight !

Tell me about it. Try staying at the Gold Coast at this time of the year. The sun is up at some ungodley hour and is gone before the day is out. No twilight!

Tuesday 21 December 2004

Melbourne:
Sunrise 5:55am
Sunset 8:42pm

Sydney
Sunrise 5:41am
Sunset 8:06pm

Brisbane
Sunrise 4:50am
Sunset 6:42pm

Melbourne and Sydney have a hell of a lot more useful sunshine today then Brisbane!

Now if that isn't a good enough reason for Brisbane to be on daylight saving time, then I don't know what is.

Tell it to the polies.

I am all for daylight savings. I think the state should be devided into two time zones during summer.

I'd prefer to see this:
Brisbane
Sunrise 5:50am
Sunset 7:42pm

Makes much more sense to me. Although I have noticed that peak traffic times in Brisbane don't alter much due to daylight savings, morning heavy traffic starts before 6am on my road which indicates to me that businesses in the CBD have adopted it anyway as people start work an hour earlier.
Peak afternoon traffic starts banking up at around 3:30pm which indicates to me that people are also leaving work earlier.

jt

I'd imagine that many companies start work earlier so that business hours just to line up with the other eastern states. Now all they need to do is go forward another ten years :)

(sorry, couldn't resist)

I'd imagine that many companies start work earlier so that business hours just to line up with the other eastern states. Now all they need to do is go forward another ten years :)

(sorry, couldn't resist)

LOL - then we'd be about 13 years in front of you guys in many other areas;)

jt

Tuesday 21 December 2004

Melbourne:
Sunrise 5:55am
Sunset 8:42pm

Sydney
Sunrise 5:41am
Sunset 8:06pm

Brisbane
Sunrise 4:50am
Sunset 6:42pm

Melbourne and Sydney have a hell of a lot more useful sunshine today then Brisbane!

Now if that isn't a good enough reason for Brisbane to be on daylight saving time, then I don't know what is.wow brisbane sucks, the sun sets at around 8;00pm here and we dont have daylight savings.

starts getting bright around 4am in perth then fully dark by 8pm so about 16hours of light

The days might be getting shorter again, but over the next week or two the sun will be dipping below the horizon even later. In Sydney, the sun will eventually set at exactly 8:10pm.

Also a few weeks ago, the sun would of risen above the horizon even earlier. In Sydney it rose at 5:38am.

I cannot figure out an explaination for why this occurs but it would have to do with the Earths tilt and rotation.

It might be the longest day here but check out London:

Sunrise: 8:04 AM
Sunset: 3:54 PM

as apposed to Brisbane:

Sunrise: 4:50 AM
Sunset: 6:43 PM

& spare a thought for those in Hammerfest, Norway. The sun won't even rise there today :(

Also, I have a sunlight clock on my other computer.Here's a link to download a shareware version of it. I also have Aussie Maps and other world maps which I can email to anyone interested in having them.

www.geoclock.com

would of

WOULD HAVE!!!

starts getting bright around 4am in perth then fully dark by 8pm so about 16hours of light

If you're including civil twilight, it is a bit over 15 (http://members.iinet.net.au/~jacob/riseset.html) hours at the moment. But then Brisbane is a bit 14h 45mins (http://members.iinet.net.au/~jacob/risesetbris.html) - so there is really only an extra half and hour of light, which is made up almost entirely of evening twilight with it lasting in Perth until a bit before 8 and in Brisbane until a bit after 7.

I think Brisbane, and the southern half of Qld, should get daylight savings simply for the lifestyle factor - Brisbane could shift forward an hour for the entire year and still not have much of a problem (Twilight currently starts no later than 6:13am)

LOL - then we'd be about 13 years in front of you guys in many other areas;)

jt

I think it's time to recalibrate that time machine. The one in Queensland must be playing up. :)

one day Qld will get daylight saving again.....

It's now getting dark in London at 3.57pm... an extra 3 minutes just in a couple of days! It's coming....slowly....not that last summer was any good...

It's now getting dark in London at 3.57pm... an extra 3 minutes just in a couple of days! It's coming....slowly....not that last summer was any good...

But London in summer has much longer days than Australian cities in summer by the looks of it.

Here's the sun data for London on 21st June 2005, the longest day in the Northern Hemisphere.

http://www.heavens-above.com/sun.asp?lat=51.517&lng=-0.105&alt=18&loc=London&TZ=GMT&Date=38524.489236111

There are 16h 39m of sunlight, but it will be light for 18h 14m.

Thanks for posting that info.

I lived in Oz for 2 years (Perth) though and can confirm that I'd prefer the Oz light to London circumstances any day. While the UK might get a significant amount of light during a limited period of the year, there's a distinction between that and sunshine. Have a look at the Perth averages and compare that to London. That's on an average basis for the year, not on one day.