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smussuw December 21st, 2004, 05:06 PM it was announced today.
H.H Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed and H.H Shiekh Hamad bin Khalifa Emir of Qatar agreed to build a bridge between them.
I can gurantee that KSA will be disappointed about that.
Dubai_Boy December 21st, 2004, 06:59 PM :) good news ;) Thats an extra billion or two for both countries to benefit from (trade wise)
where was it announced smussuw
tod24 December 21st, 2004, 07:20 PM but they are connected by land thru saudi!
Jue December 21st, 2004, 07:27 PM WTF!!!???
It's 300km from Doha to Abu Dhabi! Are they going for the World's Longest Bridge title or what?
Dubai_Boy December 21st, 2004, 09:00 PM http://www.greatestcities.com/5488pic/994/CP39994.jpg/uae_map.jpg
:eek2:
dazz December 21st, 2004, 09:10 PM that can not be true! :runaway: :runaway:
this surely would be the 9th wonder of the world :)
BulldozerGirl December 21st, 2004, 09:16 PM You eejits.
They didn't say the bridge will be from Abu Dhabi City to Qatar. They said it's from Abu Dhabi, which means the emirate.
It would probably be from the tip of the UAE border with Saudi Arabia on the Gulf and will just bypass the Saudi coast.
Dubai_Boy December 21st, 2004, 10:25 PM http://www.greatestcities.com/0614pic/000/CP40000.jpg/uae_map.jpg
Party Pooper :sleepy:
Vespa December 21st, 2004, 10:44 PM What a seriously waste of money :ohno:
BulldozerGirl December 21st, 2004, 11:25 PM No, that second picture is still incorrect.
It's from Abu Dhabi to Qatar, not Doha. The bridge should end at the closest border of Qatar to the Emirati land, not until Doha.
Dubai_Boy December 21st, 2004, 11:38 PM http://www.greatestcities.com/4988pic/008/CP40008.jpg/321.jpg
WELL if i were the engineer in charge of this Project , i would build one like the above :/
docc December 21st, 2004, 11:44 PM Probably a reason why u are not the engineer....lol. Jus kiddin....
Serkal December 21st, 2004, 11:48 PM :hilarious
you guys are funny :D
DUBAI December 22nd, 2004, 01:15 AM wouldnt it have to avoid the KSA's territorial waters? or they could get permission to go through them, but wouldnt that defeat the purpose? might as well go through KSA...
Trances December 22nd, 2004, 02:19 AM hheeh very good
BulldozerGirl December 22nd, 2004, 02:25 AM I am in favour of a bridge from Ras al-Khaimah to Bandar Abbas.
BulldozerGirl December 22nd, 2004, 02:30 AM The inter-Gulf railway should go along this bridge also, because the train will take ages going through the Saudi borders also.
And anyway, what's Saudi Arabia's problem? Why do they hassle Qataris going into the UAE, if there's no visa requirement? And do they also hassle Emiratis going to Qatar?
Wasn't there also a plan to build a bridge between Qatar and Bahrain?
pakboy December 22nd, 2004, 02:54 AM probly the world most stupidest project yet.
BulldozerGirl December 22nd, 2004, 03:24 AM I think it's an important project. Qatar is trapped by Saudi Arabia. It has land borders with no one. It should link up with Bahrain and the UAE.
Saudi Arabia is rather sinister. It's losing money and has a bleak future. It's also developing nuclear weapons with help by Pakistan. I think it's on the road to nowhere. That's why we should try to bypass their roads and form links with each other.
Trances December 22nd, 2004, 04:08 AM Agreed Great for both places
SA can always join later
Qatar4Ever December 22nd, 2004, 06:44 AM Oh god, please, inshalla this project goes on!! I really would like to see such a project. A bridge linking Qatar to AD and Qatar to Bahrain. Even ppl from UAE traveling to bahrain, and the other way round, will find it much more convinent to go through qatar. I really think given the situation today and how much i doubt it will change in the future, building a bridge between Qatar and UAE is the best idea. Im sure Saudi Arabia aren't that happy about it, but what else can we do, were land locked by them, and so is bahrain. Even recently bahrain and saudi arabia, whose relationship was really strong, is turining sour because bahrain has a FTA with America. The rest of the GCC countries dont really mind it, but Saudi arabia is making a big fuss out of it.
I think the bridge will be from Khor Al Adid in south Qatar to the northern tip of AD. I just wish UAE never agreed to the land settlement with KSA without consulting Qatar first, we would have avoided this problem all togther.
A bridge between bader abbas and uae. Laish?? Doesnt UAE has enough iranians as it is!! And how can you build a bridge that will boost economical and social ties with a country that is currently occuping UAE land. No, and a million no, to Iran!!
Krazy December 22nd, 2004, 10:50 AM BG is right, there is a picture of the map showing the bridge in Gulf News of today. It is from the bottom tip of Qatar to the extreme left edge of Abu Dhabi the emirate. And yes this project is APPROVED.
Krazy December 22nd, 2004, 10:53 AM Causeway to link UAE and Qatar announced
By Duraid Al Baik, UAE Editor
Dubai: A causeway linking the UAE to Qatar was announced yesterday, but no timetable was given for the project.
The announcement was made at a joint press conference by Shaikh Mohammad Bin Mubarak Al Khalifa, Bahrain Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister, and Abdul Rahman Bin Hamad Al Attiyah, GCC Secretary-General, after the 25th GCC summit in Manama.
The announcement came as President His Highness Shaikh Khalifa Bin Zayed Al Nahyan began a 2-day fraternal visit to Qatar.
Travellers between the two countries must now go through the Saudi Arabian desert for 125km before entering Qatar at Salwa.
There has been a substantial increase in traffic between the UAE and Qatar via Saudi Arabia. Vehicles leave the UAE via Al Ghuwaifat and travel to Al Bat'ha in Saudi Arabia.
The Saudi section of the road from Abu Dhabi to Doha is currently a two-lane single carriageway that runs along the coastline at some points.
"Hundreds of vehicles travel between the two countries every week. The proposed bridge will make the journey to Doha much safer.
"I might be able to complete it in 4 hours instead of the 12 hours it takes now," said Yousef Kayali, a resident of Abu Dhabi who travels to Doha every month to visit his parents.
Another Abu Dhabi resident, who has a brother in Dammam, said the bridge would ease travel woes.
"Bahrain is already linked with Saudi Arabia through the King Fahd causeway, while Qatar and Bahrain are planning to build a causeway linking the two countries ... The new link is great news since it will allow direct traffic between the four countries," he said.
Sahar Bsata, a Doha-based engineer, said the causeway between the UAE and Qatar would further foster fraternal relations.
"The causeway will allow women to drive to Qatar without passing through Saudi Arabia, which bans women drivers," she said.
Samir Talee, a UAE-based civil engineer, said the project would be of strategic importance as it was in line with the integration drive between GCC countries.
In the press conference, Shaikh Mohammad said the bridge between Qatar and Bahrain would be constructed soon.
Last month, Bahrain and Qatar invited international bids to build the $1.8 billion (Dh6.6 billion) causeway.
GCC transport ministers met in October to study the establishment of a high speed inter-Gulf railway that will link all GCC states.
Qatar4Ever December 22nd, 2004, 12:25 PM "The Saudi section of the road from Abu Dhabi to Doha is currently a two-lane single carriageway that runs along the coastline at some points" This is probably one of the most dangerous roads in the region. Its filled with speeding trucks carrying goods. Its just scary!!
Really, if they build this causeway it will save alot of ppl a whole lot of headached and time!! Please let them build it within this decade...!!
AltinD December 22nd, 2004, 12:27 PM What a seriously waste of money :ohno:
Look whoo's talking ....
Like Denmark (where you come from) and Sweeden aren't connected with a long bridge + tunnel going above and below the North Sea. :bash:
smussuw December 22nd, 2004, 12:49 PM probly the world most stupidest project yet.
could u give us a reasonable comments plz. u always come with those stupid posts. enjoy ur gwader and leave the UAE alone.
Dubai-Lover December 22nd, 2004, 01:37 PM this project will not be built for today
it's once again forward thinking
the bridge may be completed in a couple of years and both tourism in uae and qatar are growing very well
the demand for a connection is there
emirates flies to qatar 7 times daily i think
and not everybody will want to travel 12 hours or by plane
when the tourism and population has grown this project will pay off
smussuw December 22nd, 2004, 02:14 PM for us gulf citizens i dont think that tourisim is important for building the bridge its just i would love to go to my relatives in Qatar without wasting 2 or 3 hours in the Saudi borders and then evantually i can go to bahrian without going through KSA I like that alot !!!
Qatar4Ever December 22nd, 2004, 03:42 PM I think someone made a great point. Off all the flights between Doha and the UAE, there are almost ten daily. Lets say half of these flights are for connecting only, that leaves five flights daily for passangers leaving doha to uae and leaving uae to doha, which is alot. Plus, economically, this will help cut a whole lot of costs in transportation of goods between both countries.
whenever I go to Doha international airport, there are two counters were the most yelling and screaming goes on. The Bahrain counter and the Dubai counter, these two destionations are always overbooked!!
Krazy December 22nd, 2004, 04:45 PM Maybe this thread should be moved to the projects section?
smussuw December 22nd, 2004, 08:34 PM both of the shiekhs agreed to found a company to build this bridge.
fahed December 22nd, 2004, 10:47 PM It would be better if KSA returned our land back and made this bridge idea unthinkable for us (Emiraty and Qatari people). But what could we do! :(
Currently this bridge is the best solution to this problem, however it's going to cost much. It is also sad that we cannot negotiate with the Saudi Government, while America forced them to do plenty of actions. One of them was to stop growing wheat.
Speaking about cruises between Qatar and the UAE at racing seasons many Qataries visit Liwa and Um Al Quwain. hundreds of them come to watch and not just participating, not forgetting other visitors from other gulf countries too.
Krazy December 23rd, 2004, 03:06 PM UAE and Qatar will set up joint company to monitor bridge project
WAM
Abu Dhabi: President His Highness Shaikh Khalifa Bin Zayed Al Nahyan and His Highness Shaikh Hamad Bin Khalifa Al Thani, Emir of Qatar, yesterday held talks on the latest regional and international developments.
According to a joint communique issued yesterday in Abu Dhabi and Doha after Shaikh Khalifa's visit to Qatar ended, the two leaders "held official talks in a fraternal atmosphere, where they discussed ways to develop ties, and decided to boost activities of the higher joint committee for cooperation."
The leaders also decided to set up a joint company to supervise the implementation of the UAE-Qatar causeway project that was announced on Tuesday, the communique said.
"The company will be run thereafter in the interests of both countries," it said. "The official reception of Shaikh Khalifa and his delegation underscores the profound brotherly relations between the countries," it added.
Also present at the meeting were Shaikh Hamdan Bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, Major General Shaikh Saif Bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Minister of Interior, Shaikh Abdullah Bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Minister of Information and Culture, other senior UAE officials and top Qatari officials.
Emirates ME December 23rd, 2004, 07:54 PM المنامة - ''وام'': أعلن معالي عبد الرحمن بن حمد العطية الأمين العام لمجلس التعاون لدول الخليج العربية في مؤتمر صحفي مشترك عصر أمس مع معالي الشيخ محمد بن مبارك آل خليفة نائب رئيس الوزراء وزير خارجية مملكة البحرين في ختام القمة الخليجية '' قمة زايد '' أن دولة الامارات وقطر اتفقتا على إنشاء جسر يربط بين أبوظبي وقطر· من جانبه قال معالي الشيخ محمد بن مبارك آل خليفة إن مشروع جسر قطر والبحرين سوف يدخل الى حيز التنفيذ قريبا بعد استكمال الدراسات والخطط الانشائية لهذا المشروع الحيوي المهم· وأكد العطية أن هذين الجسرين يشكلان قمة التكامل بين دول المجلس·
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Hobodog December 24th, 2004, 08:28 AM Waters shouldn't be to much of a problem. After all could you not claim that the 12 miles or whatever each country claims extend in a manner that they all overlap...I wouldn't worry about SA...it seems to be quite a disfunctional country anyways...
Dubai-Lover December 24th, 2004, 12:54 PM moved to project section
Qatari January 1st, 2005, 09:14 PM جسر قطر ـــ الإمارات ضرورة استراتيجية والمشروع الأكبر من نوعه بالعالم
كتب ـ حبشي رشدي
بالاضافة الى اشادة مجلس الوزراء الموقر في اجتماعه العادي الاربعاء قبل الماضي بمشروع الجسر الذي سيربط بين دولة قطر والامارات والذي اعلن عنه سعادة السيد عبدالرحمن بن حمد العطية الامين العام لمجلس التعاون الخليجي على هامش قمة التعاون التي عقدت في العاصمة البحرينية المنامة مؤخرا فقد اجمعت شخصيات قطرية على اهمية وحيوية هذا المشروع معبرة عن غبطتها به
فقال الشيخ الدكتور فهد بن عبدالرحمن آل ثاني الاستاذ بالجيوبولتيكا والباحث القانوني بجامعة قطر ان هذا الجسر سوف يخفض عدد ساعات الانتظار عند نقاط العبور للحدود الى اقل من 30 بالمائة كما سيخفض المسافة بين البلدين الشقيقين الى اقل من 50 بالمائة
ووصف ابراهيم الهيدوس رئيس المجلس البلدي المركزي هذا المشروع بأنه سيكون المشروع الاضخم في العالم في القرن الاول من الالفية الثالثة مشيرا الى ان الاعلان عن هذا المشروع يتواكب مع بدء الخطوات التنفيذية لمشروع شبكة السكك الحديدية الخليجية مما سيجعل دولة قطر مركزا رئيسيا لهذه الشبكة الجديدة التي ستحقق تواصلا غير مسبوق بين دول المنطقة وقال د يوسف عبيدان استاذ العلوم السياسية لجامعة قطر ان هذا الجسر الذي اعلن عنه في قمة زايد بالبحرين له اكثر من دلالة فهو يضيف بعدا تكامليا في اطار عملية الاندماج والتكامل الذي يسعى اليه هذا التجمع الاقليمي وصولا به الى درجات اكبر من التلاحم والتقارب ووصف هذا المشروع بأنه خطوة ايجابية تشمل دول المجلس وتفتح المجال لتنقل المواطنين والسلع ويقرب المسافات ويخدم شرائح كبيرة من المواطنين ناهيك عن المردود الاقتصادي لما لذلك من اثر في تخفيض كلفة النقل خصوصا ازاء ما لوحظ في الآونة الاخيرة من ابرام اتفاقيات بين دول المجلس في مجال الاستثمار الاقتصادي والغاز وتكاليف نقله وقيام مشروعات مشتركة بتكلفة اقل
كما اوضح د يوسف عبيدان ان هذا الجسر يعكس الرغبة المشتركة في تفعيل مظاهر التعاون من خلال المنظومة الخليجية كما انه سوف يساهم في وضع حد لبعض العراقيل التي تعترض المسيرة الخليجية
وقال د حسن المهندي استاذ الجغرافيا بجامعة قطر: ان هذا المشروع الضخم يمكن النظر اليه من خلال ثلاث زوايا اولاها الجدوى الاستراتيجية وثانيتها الاثر البيئي وثالثتها العوائد الاقتصادية ولجهة الجدوى الاقتصادية قال د المهندي ان هذا الجسر يحقق الحاجة الاستراتيجية لدولة قطر في تعدد منافذها الحدودية كمطلب استراتيجي في الحاضر والمستقبل أما لجهة الاثر البيئي فطالب د حسن المهندي بدراسات مستفيضة ودقيقة تسبق تنفيذ هذا المشروع الذي سينفذ بمنطقة بحرية بين قطر والبحرين مليئة بالشعاب المرجانية ولا يزيد العمق فيها على 20 كيلو مترا
will be one of the worlds largest projects
ALWATAN QATARI NEWSPAPER
Qatari January 1st, 2005, 09:27 PM جسر قطر ــ الإماراتهل يكون المشروع الأضخم في القرن الأول من الألفية الثالثة ؟
متابعة - حبشي رشدي
قوبل اعلان سعادة السيد عبد الرحمن بن حمد العطية الأمين العام لمجلس التعاون الخليجي عن مشروع جسر يربط بين دولة قطر ودولة الإمارات العربية المتحدة بترحيب رسمي وشعبي على السواء
فقد اعرب مجلس الوزراء الموقر في اجتماعه العادي الاربعاء الفائت عن تقديره واشادته بهذا المشروع العملاق فيما اوضحت شخصيات قطرية عن تفاؤلها بهذا المشروع الكبير الذي هو في حقيقة الأمر اتصال بين تجربة اقتصادية فذة في الإمارات وتجربة مثلها طموحة في قطر
وبغير شك فإن هذا المشروع سيكون ضخما وهائلا سواء في تكوينه الهندسي والمسافة التي يقطعها لربط البلدين الشقيقين أو في مغزاه الاقتصادي
وقد ترافق مع الاعلان عن هذا المشروع عدة مواقف يجدر بنا الاشارة اليها واولها: ان الاعلان عنه قد جاء على هامش قمة التعاون في المنامة وهو ما يعكس ان الشوط الذي قطعته منظومة التعاون الخليجي لا تكون فقط بتوحيد الأنظمة والتشريعات أو الاتفاقات التي تتوصل اليها الاجتماعات الوزارية في شتى المجالات وانما هناك ايضا مساحة للتعاون الثنائي من خلال مشروعات جريئة وضخمة من المؤكد ان عوائدها لن تكون فقط مقتصرة على طرفيها ولكنها تصب في تعزيز التعاون الخليجي عموما ومشروع الجسر بين دولة قطر والامارات نموذج لذلك اذ انه لن يحقق اتصالات بريا فقط بين البلدين الشقيقين ولكنه يحقق الاتصالات ذاتها بين الدول المحيطة
ومن ذلك فان الاعلان عن هذا الجسر على هامش قمة المنامة الخليجية الاخيرة يدلل على عمق اواصر الاخوة التي تجمع بين دول هذه المنظومة
وفضلا عن ذلك فان هذا الجسر يعكس بجلاء ترجمة حية لأواصر عميقة وتاريخية تربط بين البلدين الشقيقين
واللافت الثاني: ان آفاقا رحبة سوف يتيحها بناء هذا الجسر ومنها سهولة نقل الغاز القطري الى الامارات عبره ومنها كذلك ان هذا الجسر سيتولى تلقائيا اضافة حواجز جديدة على طرفيه في البلدين فحيثما يبدأ من قطر الى نقطة الاتصال في الامارات فانه سوف يكتب لنقطتي المصب في البلدين اقتصاد اتصالي جديد فمن المؤكد انه ستكون هناك مدينة جديدة ستنشأ على طرف هذا الجسر في الامارات تكون مركزا لمنفذ حدودي واخرى مثلها سوف تنشأ عند طرفه الآخر في قطر
كما ان هذا الجسر يمكن ان يوفر طريقا جديدا للسكك الحديدية وهو المشروع المتوقع له ان يتجاوز البلدين الشقيقين الى الربط بين كل دول مجلس التعاون ومن ذلك سيكون هذا الجسر وما سوف يتوخى في تصميماته عاملا مساعدا لمشروع الربط عبر خطوط السكك الحديدية بين دول المجلس
ومن هذه العوائد الاقتصادية التي سيحققها هذا الجسر تأمين احتياجات قطر من حصى الجابرو الذي نستورده من الامارات وتعوق عمليات تصديره الحاجة الى توسعة القدرة الاستيعابية لميناء مسيعيد او الوقت الذي تستغرقه الدوبات الناقلة لهذا الحصى بحريا من الامارات
وعلى عكس ما قد يراه بعض الاقتصاديين فان التباين في المقدرات الاقتصادية بين البلدين يكسب هذا الجسر اهمية اقتصادية ذلك لانه سوف يستخدم في عبور سلع ومنتجات مختلفة وبالعودة الى حركة الصادرات والواردات المتبادلة والمتنامية بين البلدين سوف نتبين ان هذا الجسر سوف يخفض كلفة النقل وسرعة الوصول وسهولة اتمام الاجراءات ومن ذلك فان اقتصاديات البلدين سوف تشهد من خلال هذا الجسر حركة تبادل وتعاون وتكامل غير مسبوقة
ولا يغيب عن احد ان مثل هذا المشروع لن يكون بسيط التكلفة ولكنه ورغم ذلك فان القدرات المالية والاستثمارية العالية في البلدين سوف تفضي الى سرعة انجاز هذا المشروع ان بكفاءة عالية او في وقت قياسي حتى انه يمكن القول ان العوائد الاقتصادية من تبادل سلعي واقتصادي يمكن ان تغطي في مدى زمني محدود تكلفته واللافت الثالث: ان هذا المشروع سيؤسس بلا شك قاعدة عريضة لمجالات شتى من التعاون الاستثماري لرجال الاعمال في البلدين فالجسر لن يكون فقط محققا لاتصال بري تنتقل عليه حركة المسافرين ولكنه ايضا سيتيح مجالا واسعا لمشروعات اقتصادية مشتركة واللافت الرابع ايضا في مشروع هذا الجسر العملاق الذي سيكون بلا شك الاضخم من نوعه والاطول انه سيفض والى الابد الفاصل البري المحدود الذي يفصل بين البلدين اذ انه يختزل الجغرافيا الى اتصال عبر مياه الخليج واللافت الخامس: ان الاعلان عن هذا المشروع لم يأت بحجم فكرة او مقترح ولكنه ترافق مع الاعلان المفاجئ عنه ان هناك شركة سوف تناط بتنفيذ هذا المشروع مما يعني ان المشروع قد تجاوز مرحلة الاقتراح الى البحث الجاد في التنفيذ ومما يعني ان دراسات قد تلت مرحلة الاقتراح وان خطوات تالية في سبيلها للاعلان واللافت السادس والاهم ان الاعلان عن هذا المشروع قد تلته زيارة قام بها سمو رئيس دولة الامارات الى الدوحة وهي الزيارة الاولى لسموه منذ توليه سدة الحكم في الامارات مما يدلل على ان الاواصر والجسور السياسية ذات العمق الاخوي والتاريخي اسبق من اية جسور اخرى ومهيئة لمثل هذا المشروع الضخم ان الامارات التي ودعت قبل شهور قلائل سمو الشيخ زايد بن سلطان آل نهيان رحمه الله قائد نهضتها الحديثة التي اصبحت نموذجا للاقتداء ومثلا مبينا للقدرة على التسابق مع الزمن في بناء نهضة شاملة تستأنف حركتها باتجاه المزيد من التطور بمشروع هائل يعزز جغرافيتها ويعد اقتصادها بمزيد من فرص المحافظة على الازدهار كما ان هذا الجسر ايضا بالنسبة لدولة قطر خطوة مهمة على طريق نهضتها ومشروعها الحضاري الكبير الذي قطعت فيه شوطا كبيرا ويقول الشيخ فهد بن عبدالرحمن آل ثاني الاستاذ بالجيوبولتيكا والباحث القانوني بجامعة قطر انه يمكن النظر الى موضوع مشروع الجسر بين قطر والامارات من عدة زوايا وأولاها الجدوى التي سيحققها هذا المشروع الكبير
فمن مميزات الجسر بين قطر والإمارات انه سوف يقلص المسافة إلى اكثر من 50 بالمائة وسوف يخفض عدد ساعات الانتظار عند نقاط العبور للحدود مثلما يجري الآن فمن المعروف اننا حينما نذهب الى الامارات برا يتعين علينا المرور على أربعة مراكز حدودية وهذا يعتبر تأخيرا وايذاء للمسافر ويمكن بعد انجاز هذا المشروع الضخم بين قطر والامارات ان تصبح نقاط الحدود او منافذ العبور الحدودية اقل عددا وانهما سيكونان فقط منفذين حدودين وربما في المستقبل لا يكون هناك وجود لهذه المنافذ بالشكل التي هي عليه الآن وهذا سوف يقلص المدة الزمنية على المسافر الى اقل من 30% قياسا على الزمن الراهن
ناهيك عن ان هذا الجسر بطبيعة الحال سوف يحقق فوائد عدة لحركة التبادل التجاري ونقل البضائع بالاضافة الى التبادل الثقافي والسياحي والزيارات الاجتماعية لاسر وعائلات في البلدين بالاضافة الى الدول الاخرى
غير ان الدكتور الشيخ فهد بن عبدالرحمن آل ثاني تحدث كذلك عن جوانب اخرى لابد من اخذها في الاعتبار وهي التأثيرات السالبة المتوقعة على البيئة والتكلفة الاقتصادية العالية والتي وصفها بانها ربما تكون خيالية
مشروع القرن
يقول السيد ابراهيم الهيدوس رئيس المجلس البلدي المركزي اننا نرحب بكل مشروع يؤدي الى مزيد من التلاحم والترابط بين دول المنطقة ومن ذلك فإنه يعتقد أن مشروع بناء جسر يربط بين دولة قطر ودولة الإمارات العربية المتحدة بشكل مباشر سيكون احد الانجازات الهندسية الجبارة خلال القرن الأول في الألفية الثالثة بعد الانتهاء من بنائه وبالتالي فهذا الجسر يعبر عن رؤية بعيدة المدى للقيادتين الرشيدتين في دولة قطر ودولة الإمارات كما تعكس تطلعات الشعوب في المنطقة نحو التعاون المباشر والوثيق في جميع المجالات السياسية والاقتصادية والاجتماعية
وأضاف الهيدوس ان الإعلان عن هذا المشروع يتواكب مع بدء الخطوات التنفيذية لمشروع شبكة سكك الحديد الخليجية وكذلك البدء في مشروع قطار دبي مما نأمل معه نحن في قطر ان تكون بلادنا محورا رئيسيا في المستقبل ضمن شبكات النقل بالقطارات في منطقة الخليج والجزيرة العربية
كما اوضح رئيس المجلس البلدي انه بطبيعة الحال فإن مشروع الجسر مع الإمارات الى جانب مشروع جسر المحبة مع مملكة البحرين يمكن ان يؤديا دورا رئيسيا في هذا الصدد ويساعدا على تفعيل المسافات واختصارها بين معظم المدن الواقعة على ضفاف الخليج وهو ما ستكون له آثاره الايجابية المباشرة على الواقع الاقتصادي والسياحي والاجتماعي وبالتالي تحقيق المزيد من التلاحم السياسي بين دول المنطقة
وفيما يتعلق بالعوائد الاقتصادية المتوقعة من بناء هذا الجسر بين دولة الإمارات وقطر قال الهيدوس ان من المعروف ان منطقة الخليج تشهد قفزات إنشائية وعقارية كبيرة مشيرا الى أن دول المنطقة تحتاج الى استثمار 70 مليون دولار في هذا المجال الاستثماري العقاري ومن ذلك فلا بد من انسياب حركة نقل مواد البناء والخبرات وشركات المقاولات ومن ثم فلا بد ان تصاحب ذلك اعادة النظر في المنافذ الحدودية بين دول المنطقة باتجاه التبسيط والتسهيل
وتساءل الهيدوس: هل ستظل فكرة المنافذ الحدودية كما هي عليه الآن حاليا بين دول المنطقة أم أن هذه الاتصالات البرية المعاصرة والجسور التي ستتم اقامتها سوف تضع حدا لتعقيدات هذه المنافذ الحدودية باتجاه اعادة صياغتها وفقا لمتطلبات المرحلة المقبلة
التكامل
وقال د يوسف عبيدان ان الاتفاق بين قطر ودولة الإمارات العربية على إقامة جسر بينهما الذي تم في أعقاب قمة زايد في البحرين مؤخرا له أكثر من دلالة فهو يضيف بعدا تكامليا في إطار عملية الاندماج والتكامل التي يسعى إليها هذا التجمع الإقليمي وصولا به إلى درجات أكبر من التقارب والتلاحم ولا شك ان الربط بين هذه الدول سواء كان عبر جسور بحرية أو طرق برية أمر يحقق منافع شتى يعود نفعها على المواطنين الخليجيين قاطبة على نحو ما حققه من قبل جسر الملك فهد الذي يربط بين البحرين والسعودية والذي جعل للبحرين باعتبارها جزيرة منفذا بريا تتصل من خلاله بسائر الدول والجسر بين الإمارات وقطر كما الجسر بين البحرين وقطر كلاهما أداة من أدوات الترابط فهو يعتبر خطوة إيجابية تسجل لدول المجلس وتفتح المجال لتنقل المواطنين والسلع وتقرب المسافات وبالتالي فهو سيخدم شرائح كبيرة من المواطنين ناهيك عن المردود الاقتصادي لما لذلك من أثر في تخفيض تكلفة النقل وغيره خصوصا إزاء ما لوحظ في الآونة الأخيرة من إبرام اتفاقيات بين دول المجلس في مجال الاستثمار الاقتصادي والغاز وتكاليف نقله وقيام مشروعات مشتركة بتكلفة أقل
وأضاف د يوسف عبيدان ان مثل هذا الجسر يجسد العلاقات الحميمة بين الإمارات وقطر ويعكس الرغبة المشتركة في تفعيل مظاهر التعاون من خلال المنظومة الخليجية ويساهم في وضع حد لبعض العراقيل التي تعترض المسيرة الخليجية تلك العراقيل التي جعلت الكثير من الراصدين لمجريات الأمور والمحللين يقللون من فاعلية مجلس التعاون وانه لم يحقق ما تطمح إليه شعوبه وذلك في إطار المقارنة بينه وبين التجمعات الاقليمية الأخرى
وقد أعرب ديوسف عبيدان عن اعتقاده انه مادامت قد وضحت النوايا وصدق العزم والبلدان يملكان من الامكانات ما يجعل هذا المشروع حيا على أرض الواقع فليس ثمة مجال لمن يحاول التقليل من هذا التجمع الذي يخطو بخطوات تدريجية في إطار الواقع الذي يسود دوله ويأتي هذا المشروع ليؤكد الدلالة السياسية بإجماع قيادة الدولتين على تحقيق هذا المشروع العملاق والذي يعد من أطول الجسور في المنطقة وفي بعض مناطق العالم
الجغرافيا
ويقول د حسن المهندي استاذ الجغرافيا بجامعة قطر ان هذا المشروع الضخم يمكن النظر اليه من ثلاث زوايا رئيسية أولاها زاوية استراتيجية وثانيتها زاوية بينية وثالثتها زاوية تتعلق بالعوائد والجدوى الاقتصادية المتنوعة التي يحققها هذا الجسر
وبخصوص الجانب الاستراتيجي الذي يحققه هذا الجسر قال د حسن المهندي انه من المعروف ان دولة قطر ليس لها الا منفذ حدودي واحد وبالتالي فهناك حاجة الى معايير ومنافذ اخرى تحقق لها اتصالات بدول قريبة فالمطلوب ان نفتح منافذ برية اخرى تصلنا بدول شقيقة مجاورة او قريبة لان ذلك مطلوب ومهم جدا من ناحية استراتيجية مستقبلية فضلا عن جدوى هذا الجسر في الحاضر
وعن ذلك فان مشروع الجسر بين قطر والامارات يحقق هذا البعد الاستراتيجي المنشود لانه سيجعل لدولة قطر اكثر من منفذ حدودي وييسر الاتصال البري بدولة الامارات العربية الشقيقة
البيئة
اما بخصوص الناحية البيئية فيقول د حسن المهندي ان هناك اعتبارات بيئية لابد من توخيها تسبق تنفيذ هذا المشروع فمن المعروف ان المسافة البحرية بين قطر والامارات هي منطقة مليئة بالشعب المرجانية وبالتالي فلابد من المحافظة على فطرية هذه البيئة وسلامتها خلال عمليات التنفيذ ولابد من وضع خطة بيئية لحماية البيئة البحرية في المنطقة التي يعبرها الجسر
كما اوضح د حسن المهندي في هذا الصدد ان هذه الخطة البيئية المطلوب وضعها ينبغي ان تسبق التنفيذ لا ان تعقبه فلا جدوى ان نهتم بالبيئة البحرية التي يعبرها الجسربعد التنفيذ ولكن الاهم ان نحافظ على البيئة البحرية قبل التنفيذ وبعده
واضاف قائلا: انه من المعروف كذلك ان الاعماق البحرية في المنطقة بين قطر والامارات ثابتة ومتشابهة فهي لا تزيد على 20 مترا في الغالب وبالتالي سيكون على الشركة المصممة وايضا الشركة المنفذة القيام بدراسات حول البيئة البحرية في منطقة التنفيذ قبل البدء فيه لضمان سلامة البيئة البحرية وأخذا في الاعتبار ايضا ان طول هذا الجسر لن يكون بسيطا فالمسافة بين البلدين قد تصل إلى 300 كيلومتر وبالنتيجة سوف تسعى الشركة المنفذة إلى انتخاب اقصر مسافة بين البلدين وهذا ما سوف تتمخض عنه الدراسات التي سوف تسبق التصميم والتنفيذ
الجدوى الاقتصادية
كما تحدث ايضا دحسن المهندي عن العائد الاقتصادي الذي سيحققه هذا الجسر فقال ان هذا المشروع سوف يحقق بلا شك رواجا اقتصاديا في البلدين وسوف يسهل حركة تبادل البضائع والمسافرين وسوف تكون هناك مشروعات تحقق تكاملا اقتصاديا بينهما كما سوف يرتبط بهذا الجسر نشوء بيئة اقتصادية يتعاون على انشائها رجال الأعمال في البلدين وهذا شيء مفيد جدا لاقتصاديات البلدين إذ سيكون هذا الجسر متغيرا اقتصاديا جديدا وبالغ الأهمية وعظيم الاثر لصالح البلدين
رحلة خلابة
ويقول المهندس عبدالله صالح الكواري رئيس بنك المعلومات الزراعية بوزارة الشؤون البلدية والزراعة وعضو المجلس البلدي المركزي انه اسعده سماع نبأ هذا الجسر الذي سوف يربط بين قطر والامارات فهو أولا سوف يحقق المزيد من الروابط التجارية والاقتصادية بين البلدين الشقيقين كما علينا ان نأخذ في الاعتبار كذلك ان هناك روابط اجتماعية كبيرة بين البلدين وهناك سفر متبادل بين الأهل في البلدين ومن ذلك فان هذا الجسر سوف يخدم بلا شك هذه الروابط الأسرية والاجتماعية ويحقق لحركة المسافرين السهولة واليسر والسرعة فمن المعروف ان الانتقال برا إلى الامارات يحتاج إلى عبور نحو اربعة منافذ حدودية وهذا يطيل المسافة الزمنية للرحلة ولكن بعد انشاء هذا الجسر فان الأمر سوف يقتصر فقط على عبور منفذين حدوديين فقط سيكونان بلا شك من غير اية تعقيدات أو مصاعب
ويضيف المهندس عبدالله الكواري انه اضافة لذلك فان الرحلة من قطر إلى الامارات أو العكس من خلال هذا الجسر ستكون رحلة ممتعة للمسافرين فهي مسافة ستقطع عبر البحر وهي بيئة طبيعية خلابة بطبيعتها مما يضيف على البعد السياحي عاملا آخر ومن المؤكد ان انشاء هذا الجسر لن يعزز فقط حركة تبادل البضائع ولكنه ايضا يضيف الى القطاع السياحي في البلدين عوامل جاذبة اخرى اذ سيكون من السهل على اية وفود سياحية الانتقال من قطر الى الامارات او العكس والتمتع بالامكانيات السياحية في البلدين لان الجسر سوف يقصر المسافة ويجعل للرحلة البرية مذاقا آخر
وقال ايضا المهندس عبدالله الكواري انه استشعر ترحيبا شعبيا هائلا في قطر بهذا المشروع والذي يرقى إلى مستوى الحلم في حال تنفيذه ومما يعزز توقع البدء في تنفيذ هذا المشروع ان كلا البلدين ــ قطر والامارات لديهما خبرات ودراسات واستعدادات اقتصادية هائلة لتنفيذ مثل هذا المشروع الكبير الذي سيكون الاضخم من نوعه في المنطقة مشيرا كذلك الى العوائد الاقتصادية التي يمكن ان يحققها ومنها ايضا ان هذا الجسر لن يكون مشروعا قائما بذاته بل سوف يتطلب تطوير شبكة طرق مؤدية إلى نقطة البداية في قطر وربطها بالطرق الرئيسية بالدولة والى تطوير خطوط المواصلات بصفة عامة والى انشاء مرافق وربما خدمات اقتصادية عديدة لاستقبال حركة البضائع الواردة او المصدرة كما ان هذا الجسر سيحقق طفرة اقتصادية ستكون واضحة في نقطة البداية في قطر وبالتالي يعيد توزيع الخدمات ومعها ايضا توزيع الكثافة السكانية
وبخصوص تصاميم هذا الجسر قال المهندس عبدالله الكواري انه بلا شك ان القطاع الهندسي في البلدين سوف يلجأ إلى بيوت خبرة عالية مشهود لها بالكفاءة لوضع تصاميم هذا الموضوع ومن الطبيعي كذلك ان يتم اخضاع كل جانب من مقتضيات تنفيذ هذا المشروع الى دراسات مستفيضة تسبق التنفيذ وقد تم تطوير القطاع الهندسي في قطر الذي سيكون اكثر قدرة على دراسة هذا المشروع وبحثه من كافة الجوانب والاشراف على تنفيذه ومتابعة كل مرحلة من مراحل التنفيذ فنحن نتحدث عن مشروع كبير وضخم سوف يستغرق تنفيذه عدة سنوات وسوف يحتاج الى تكلفة كبيرة ولهذا كله يمكن وصف هذا المشروع بأنه سيكون اشبه بجائزة لمواطني البلدين كونه مشروعا مستقبليا عظيما ومتنوع النتائج والفوائد لذا علينا الاستعداد له
وتقول شيخة الجفيري عضوة المجلس البلدي ان هذا الجسر الذي سيربط بين دولة قطر والامارات سيكون انجازا هندسيا غير مسبوق في تاريخ المشروعات المماثلة الرابطة بين الدول فهو سيكون اطول من الجسر الذي يربط بين قطر والسعودية كما سيكون كذلك اطول من النفق الذي يربط بين بريطانيا وفرنسا عبر المانش وبالتالي يمكن ان يعد هذا المشروع الاضخم من نوعه خاصة وانه من المتوقع ان يتم تنفيذه بمواصفات عالية الكفاءة
وفضلا عن ذلك تضيف شيخة الجفيري ان قطر والامارات سوف يحققان الكثير من هذا الجسر وهناك مجالات عدة للتعاون الاقتصادي كما سيحقق هذا الجسر مجالا للربط بين دول المنطقة بالسكك الحديدية
اجمعت شخصيات قطرية على اهمية وحيوية مشروع الجسر الذي سيربط بين قطر والامارات واحدث الاعلان عن هذا المشروع ترحيبا
بالاضافة الى اشادة مجلس الوزراء الموقر في اجتماعه العادي الاربعاء قبل الماضي بمشروع الجسر الذي سيربط بين دولة قطر والبحرين والذي اعلن عنه سعادة السيد العطية الامين العام لمجلس التعاون الخليجي على هامش قمة التعاون التي عقدت في المنامة مؤخرا فقد اجمعت شخصيات قطرية على اهمية وحيوية هذا المشروع
ahmedr January 1st, 2005, 11:58 PM I cant help thinking of how amazing it would be if Qatar and the UAE become one country, will probably be the country with the biggest energy reserves in the world and with the most ambitious leaders.
Dubai_Boy January 2nd, 2005, 12:13 AM I cant help thinking of how amazing it would be if Qatar and the UAE become one country, will probably be the country with the biggest energy reserves in the world and with the most ambitious leaders.
:cheers:
smussuw January 2nd, 2005, 12:21 AM I think both emarati and qatari would agree.
Emirates ME January 2nd, 2005, 06:57 AM I think it 350km ? :runaway:
fahed January 2nd, 2005, 10:11 PM I think it 350km ? :runaway:
They will take the shortest distance, as it's said they want it to be as short as posible because there are many coral reefs between Qatar & UAE.
Dubai-Lover January 15th, 2005, 07:20 AM Doha and Abu Dhabi mull plans for worlds longest bridge
Proposed Doha-Manama causeway
A causeway that will bridge the 300 km gap between the capitals of Qatar and the UAE will be built, according to an agreement reached between the two states. Doha and Abu Dhabi have agreed to set up a joint venture firm that will begin feasibility studies on the ambitious project to bridge the open sea between the two nations.
The agreement to build the causeway was reached during the end-December visit to the Qatari capital by the UAE president and ruler of Abu Dhabi, His Highness Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan. A distance of some 300 kilometres, as the crow flies, separates the two Gulf cities. Since both the capitals are located on the coast, the length of the causeway is likely to be more or less the same.
Presently, those travelling by road between Doha and the United Arab Emirates have to go via a land route that takes them across parts of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The proposed causeway will do away with the formalities of having to enter the neighbouring kingdom and shorten the distance it presently takes to travel between the two capitals.
The result will be a raft of construction orders for a bridge that is likely to be the longest in the world. The Gulf is a relatively shallow body of water, making the construction of a causeway perfectly feasible.
The proposal to build the bridge was first revealed by Abdul Rahman bin Hamad Al Attiya, Gulf Cooperation Council Secretary General, at the end of the recent GCC Summit in Doha. The subject came up during a discussion about the proposed causeway between Qatar and Bahrain.
Danish firm, Cowi Consult has finalised a technical study for the proposed US $2 billion 40 kilometre bridge that will link the Gulf states of Bahrain and Qatar. Sheikh Mohammed bin Mubarak Al Khalifa, Bahraini deputy premier and foreign minister, explained that the implementation of the bridge between Qatar and Bahrain will begin soon. He announced that the necessary studies and the constructional plans for this important and vital venture have been now completed.
The UAE and Qatar have agreed to set up a joint venture company to manage and oversee the execution of the bridge between their two countries, according to a joint communiquι issued at the end of a visit by the UAE president to Doha.
In a fraternal climate, the two sides held official talks in Doha, during which they discussed means of bolstering ties of fraternal co-operation, especially the activation of the work of the UAE-Qatar Higher Joint Cooperation Committee, said the communiquι carried by Emirates News Agency.
In this respect, an agreement was reached on setting up a joint company to oversee the implementation and running of the [proposed] causeway due to be established between the two countries in order to further boost co-operation and to serve the interests and welfare of the two brotherly people, the statement pointed out.
Details of the new joint venture firm, such as the capital base, its name or the equity ownership structure, have not yet been revealed. It is, however, expected to be formed shortly and is to be tasked with carrying out the technical and feasibility studies required to execute the massive project.
If the cost of the Bahrain-Qatar bridge is anything to go by, the proposed Qatar-UAE causeway could easily cost over US $10 billion.
Ties between Qatar and the United Arab Emirates have been growing in strength in recent weeks. Qatar, which sits on one of the worlds largest reserves of natural gas, has entered into a multi-billion dollar agreement with the UAE Offsets Group firm, Dolphin Energy Limited, to supply natural gas via an underwater pipeline to the UAE and Oman.
Works on the project have started with contracts worth more than AED 1.93 billion already awarded. Since the Doha announcement, talks have been continuing at various levels between the UAE and Qatar.
Dubai_Boy January 15th, 2005, 08:01 AM "Works on the project have started with contracts worth more than AED 1.93 billion already awarded. Since the Doha announcement, talks have been continuing at various levels between the UAE and Qatar."
So has it started or are they still talking !!!
fahed January 15th, 2005, 03:20 PM I don't think that they started because they wanna check the coral reefs and marine life first before construction. We already don't have much on the land so we have to keep what's in the sea!
Emir of Ketir January 30th, 2005, 12:05 AM I really hope this project goes ahead. Abu-Dhabi, despite or maybe because having accumulated 250bn. US$ in foeign assets still has a major problem with accountability, missmanagement, bureaucracy and corruption.
Lets hope Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, rising dynamic young leader, who has been equipped with more power at the recent government reschuffle, breaks up this system.
Qatar4Ever February 2nd, 2005, 02:37 PM Imagine.. lunch in bahrain and dinner in AD.. ya salam.. hehe if these two project materalize.. there will no longer be traffic problems in doha during weekends.. everyone will either be in bahrain or dubai :p
Trances February 2nd, 2005, 02:41 PM driving all that way for one day !
hmm need a shinkzen train that does 300k that you can load your car on too
Krazy June 30th, 2005, 07:32 AM Riyadh raises objection to UAE-Qatar causeway
Manama: Saudi Arabia's objections to the construction of a causeway that will link the UAE and Qatar could further strain inter-GCC relations and present an obstacle to the success of other regional projects, Gulf officials yesterday said.
The planned bridge is "an important step" towards integrating GCC member states, a Gulf diplomat told Gulf News. "It should not be opposed by another member. On the contrary, it should be encouraged and supported," he said on the condition of anonymity.
Saudi newspapers yesterday quoted Prince Nayef Bin Abdul Aziz, Minister of Interior, as saying his country has raised its objections to Abu Dhabi and Doha over the bridge plans, saying it will pass through Saudi territorial waters.
The plan to build the bridge comes amid discussions between Saudi Arabia and the UAE over the 1974 border pact, agreed to shortly after the UAE was formed in 1971.
In August 1974, the two sides signed in Jeddah an agreement saying Riyadh will give up demands on Al Breimi oases, while on the other side, Abu Dhabi gave up Khour Al Adeed, a coastal area running at a length of 25km separating Abu Dhabi and Qatar. UAE and Saudi officials recently denied that was a disagreement over the borders.
Shaikh Hamdan Bin Zayed Al Nahyan, UAE Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, recently said the dialogue on boundary issues between the UAE and Saudi Arabia will be completed during his visit to Saudi Arabia.
The visit is at the invitation of Prince Nayef, he said. Shaikh Hamdan, who is the Chairman of the Permanent UAE Boundaries Committee, said President His Highness Shaikh Khalifa Bin Zayed Al Nahyan had received a letter from Prince Abdullah Bin Abdul Aziz, Saudi Crown Prince, in connection with the boundaries between the two countries.
Prince Nayef delivered the letter to the President during his recent visit to the UAE.
"During Prince Nayef's visit, a brotherly, frank and transparent dialogue on certain boundary matters took place. The UAE said some parts of the 1974 boundary agreement can no longer be implemented. The UAE, therefore, presented fundamental amendments to these parts of the agreement," he said.
Shaikh Hamdan said: "The stance in this respect is not new, since the UAE has been expressing the same position since 1975."
Shaikh Hamdan reiterated the UAE's desire to reach a satisfactory settlement to these matters in the shortest time possible.
Prince Nayef said: "We and our brothers in the UAE are in good terms and we consider ourselves as one team working to resolve what is left of the 1974 agreement. We do not know the interests and motive of those who portray things in a different and untrue manner. Very soon they will find out that this matter has been settled because there is no difference, but only some points that have to be finalised in the agreement."
However, "regarding the bridge, Saudi Arabia had to deliver a protest note to the governments of Qatar and the Emirates because this is not acceptable, as this would pass through Saudi regional waters," he was quoted as saying.
Dubai-Lover June 30th, 2005, 11:07 AM all i can say is: why?
where's the problem?
Krazy June 30th, 2005, 11:08 AM I knew the Saudis would step in.
Dubai-Lover June 30th, 2005, 11:13 AM yeah, it was some kinda obvious
i still can't understand why countries interfere when something is built on their territorium (which is water in this case), but they can't profit from it
so, let's do it the ancient way. people have to drive through a small part of saudi arabia, a part of a part of the desert which is called 'empty quarter' aka rub al khali.
so, what can people expect when they drive through?
Krazy June 30th, 2005, 11:15 AM Saudis showing some real "brotherly love" huh? It's so sad that cooperation at this level lacks in this part of the world. They must learn from the EU. Progress is not possible if they keep acting like children.
smussuw June 30th, 2005, 02:30 PM Yea I really dont know why KSA always act that childish. Even if it was their water what would be the problem. KSA is the member which always ruin GCC agreements.
KSA refused to reconginze the UAE in 1974 until it gave KSA some of the land between Qatar and the UAE that is why we dont have borders with Qatar any more. Now they dont even wanna connect with them with a bridge.
KSA have border problems with all its neighbours. Even it refuse to connect Qatar with Kuwait for the Gas. Also when Bahrian had an economical agreement with USA, KSA stopped giving bahrian its share of oil.
There is a high level of cooperation between the UAE and Qatar, Bahrian and Oman. KSA is just jealouse because those countries arent acting as their younger brother.
My only wish is that KSA should start thinking that each GCC memeber has an equal membership and it is no different than us.
Dubai_Boy June 30th, 2005, 02:33 PM The UAE and other GCC countries will shuttle ahead , its a pitty, this is a discrase to shiekh zayed
Skoulikimou June 30th, 2005, 05:00 PM Saudi protests UAE-Qatar bridge crossing regional waters
RIYADH, June 29 (KUNA) -- Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud announced that his country has officially lodged a protest to the United Arab Emirates and Qatar with regard to the bridge, parts of which would go through Saudi regional waters.
The state-run Saudi Press Agency (SPA) quoted Prince Nayef, who was speaking at a graduation ceremony at Nayef University Tuesday evening, as saying that there are no border disputes between his country and the UAE.
He added that a joint Saudi-UAE team is currently working on aspects of the 1974 border agreement, stressing that both sides have been transparent in dealing with the situation for common interest.
dubaiflo June 30th, 2005, 10:29 PM where is the boarder exactly?
smussuw July 1st, 2005, 01:21 AM The UAE has said two weeks ago that the border agreement in 1974 isnt accepted anymore. For me, I dont have any problem with the old agreement. If KSA took the land its ok, just let us build this bridge.
Here are the borders
Before
http://www.mideastweb.org/uae.gif
After
http://www.persecution.net/images/countries/maps/large/uae.gif
dubaiflo July 1st, 2005, 08:42 PM so the sea border is gone?
smussuw July 1st, 2005, 09:33 PM Noooooo. check the west borders I mean the tail. Before we had borders with qatar now we dont. The tail was loneger.
dubaiflo July 1st, 2005, 11:16 PM ah ok i see...thanks...
DXB July 2nd, 2005, 01:55 AM KSA's main job is to steal others lands "pirates of the region"
and to obey America, so pathetic
smussuw July 2nd, 2005, 02:26 AM ^
You got that right.
B-Patriot July 2nd, 2005, 03:36 AM *deleted*
Nasrawi December 5th, 2006, 11:39 PM So what happened to this project?
KSA put it on hold? Cancelled?
DG December 6th, 2006, 10:19 AM :sleepy:
Qatar Son 333 December 6th, 2006, 12:43 PM qatar - bahrain friendship bridge is underconstruction you know :)
Nasrawi December 6th, 2006, 12:48 PM qatar - bahrain friendship bridge is underconstruction you know :)
When will it be done?
bizzybonita December 22nd, 2007, 06:46 PM Saudis showing some real "brotherly love" huh? It's so sad that cooperation at this level lacks in this part of the world. They must learn from the EU. Progress is not possible if they keep acting like children.
KINDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA U MEAN:horse::horse:
Qatar Son 333 December 23rd, 2007, 11:59 AM ^^ so is KINGDOM OF BAHRAIN
and the UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
and the STATE OF QATAR
and the STATE OF KUWAIT
and the SALTANATE OF OMAN
!!!!!!!!!!!!
Omaro December 24th, 2007, 04:08 AM http://www.greatestcities.com/4988pic/008/CP40008.jpg/321.jpg
WELL if i were the engineer in charge of this Project , i would build one like the above :/
I know this was posted more than 2 years ago, but I can't help but laugh out loud!!Thanks for giving me a good laugh at 6am :D
Omaro December 24th, 2007, 04:19 AM On a more relevant note, any progress on this? Is the bridge under construction or what?
bizzybonita December 24th, 2007, 09:23 AM it's big joke isn't ...it's zigzag shape tryin to put it in map the 1st blah blah in world.. from ma opion alfjueriah canal is better lolI know this was posted more than 2 years ago, but I can't help but laugh out loud!!Thanks for giving me a good laugh at 6am :D
Omaro February 16th, 2008, 04:03 AM Abu Dhabi, Doha link to cost $13bn
by James Cordahi (joel.bowman@itp.com?subject=ArabianBusiness.com: Abu Dhabi, Doha link to cost $13bn) on Wednesday, 13 February 2008
A proposed causeway linking the UAE capital, Abu Dhabi, with Doha in Qatar may cost about $13 billion, London-based Middle East Economic Digest (Meed) magazine reported, citing a consultant that could be involved in the project.
Mohammed Ali, regional adviser with Denmark's Cowi, said the the latest design envisages linking the two cities via a 65-kilometre bridge across the Gulf, Meed said.
Cowi is likely to be involved in the project as a consultant. It is already involved in a project to build a causeway between Qatar and Bahrain, Meed said.
The original design for the UAE-Qatar causeway, which was first developed six years ago, was for a 40-kilometre link. This was changed due to difficulties with the route, which ran through Saudi Arabian territorial waters, Meed said.
No date has been set for construction to start, the magazine reported on its website. (Reuters)
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/511102-abu-dhabi-doha-link-to-cost-13bn
AltinD February 16th, 2008, 03:53 PM Since when Abu Dhabi is in RAK???
Halawala February 18th, 2008, 04:03 AM ^^ Huh? LOL I didnt get u?
big mo February 21st, 2008, 11:32 PM who will pay for the project. UAE, or QATAR
davsot February 16th, 2009, 07:59 AM loool at comments on first page! :lol:
anyways, if the project does go on, I think it should have some HSR. :)
must7 February 18th, 2009, 04:42 PM Noooooo. check the west borders I mean the tail. Before we had borders with qatar now we dont. The tail was loneger.
I am surprised that you are referring to the 1974 border agreement, as from what I understand the Saudi's moved in the area not later than 1996 ! I think this area was taken at the time of signing of agreement on Rub-al Khali (Empty quarters)! Now do the 1996 dates & signing of Rub-al Khali concur ?
Also I thought that finally UAE / QATAR & Kingdom of Saudi Arabia had agreed for an international highway in the area after Ghweifat up to Qatar (Salwa road) !
So in the end they are again talking about the bridge ! I hope we can have some word with Cowi. We are working with them on QBC (Qatar Bahrain causeway project) & will surely try to see what are they up to these days on this vital & nice link !
KingMoody February 28th, 2009, 03:17 PM I am surprised that you are referring to the 1974 border agreement, as from what I understand the Saudi's moved in the area not later than 1996 ! I think this area was taken at the time of signing of agreement on Rub-al Khali (Empty quarters)! Now do the 1996 dates & signing of Rub-al Khali concur ?
Also I thought that finally UAE / QATAR & Kingdom of Saudi Arabia had agreed for an international highway in the area after Ghweifat up to Qatar (Salwa road) !
So in the end they are again talking about the bridge ! I hope we can have some word with Cowi. We are working with them on QBC (Qatar Bahrain causeway project) & will surely try to see what are they up to these days on this vital & nice link !
Qatar was going to be part of the UAE Federation once upon a time
Qatar Son 333 April 5th, 2009, 12:33 PM ^^ Bahrain too :P what was it called again Union of Arab Emirates or somthing (still UAE huh) but yeah.. we were so close into becoming one country (would have been nice, dont you think)... anyways...
this bridge is going to connect Abudhabi (Emirate) to Messied (Closest place possible to connect... since lower than that is just sand dunes and the Saudi sea border...
http://www.3nabifantasy.com/up/uaeqatar.gif
^^ you could see where the bridge is in this picture...
Jim856796 April 6th, 2009, 03:19 AM A bridge between Abu Dhabi and Doha, Qatar would be a stupid idea. Why was this project even proposed, anyway? I hope this ends up being cancelled altogether as this project is a white elephant. I do not want this bridge constructed.
DUBAI April 6th, 2009, 01:02 PM ^^ You're a white elephant
Jim856796 April 7th, 2009, 03:40 AM ^^No, sir, if you'll pardon me, This bridge will, in fact, never be constructed in our lifetimes.
smussuw April 7th, 2009, 07:14 AM ^^ There is a difference between not wanting this project to be built and believing that it will never be built.
Adam2707 April 7th, 2009, 09:19 AM ^^No, sir, if you'll pardon me, This bridge will, in fact, never be constructed in our lifetimes.
Why how old are you then? 70? 80? 90? :old:
*joke*:D
Jim856796 April 8th, 2009, 12:17 AM I just represent the opposition to this absurd bridge project. And it looks like you probably represent the supporters of the bridge.
EmiratesAirline380 April 8th, 2009, 05:19 PM I doubt many people will actually use this bridge. Hardly anyone really travels by road to Qatar. I think the only people that do, are truck drivers delivering stuff.
smussuw April 8th, 2009, 05:29 PM ^^ not really, many Emirati and Arab families go to Qatar by road.
EmiratesAirline380 April 8th, 2009, 11:34 PM ^^ not really, many Emirati and Arab families go to Qatar by road.
yeah, but most of them travel by air. Very few families actually travel by road. I do know some Emarati famalies that use their car when travelling, byt they go shorter distances to Oman.
I would suggest instead of making the bridge for cars, build a train.
Qatar Son 333 April 11th, 2009, 01:17 PM A bridge between Abu Dhabi and Doha, Qatar would be a stupid idea. Why was this project even proposed, anyway? I hope this ends up being cancelled altogether as this project is a white elephant. I do not want this bridge constructed.
it shows how ignorant you are, its going to connect Messied, Qatar and Abudhabi (Emirate)...
EmiratesAirline380, Alot of people use roads for travel especially on weekends... alot of Qataris go with there cars to the UAE... and the bridge will also make the distance from Bahrain and other places shorter (With the construction of the Qatar-Bahrain Freindship Causway)....
on the plus side, this means women can acctually travel between the countries freely (KSA dosent allow women to drive) and they can keep there hair uncovered (if they already do, KSA always makes women cover there hair, regardless of there religion)
This project is LOGICAL
EmiratesAirline380 April 11th, 2009, 10:25 PM it shows how ignorant you are, its going to connect Messied, Qatar and Abudhabi (Emirate)...
EmiratesAirline380, Alot of people use roads for travel especially on weekends... alot of Qataris go with there cars to the UAE... and the bridge will also make the distance from Bahrain and other places shorter (With the construction of the Qatar-Bahrain Freindship Causway)....
on the plus side, this means women can acctually travel between the countries freely (KSA dosent allow women to drive) and they can keep there hair uncovered (if they already do, KSA always makes women cover there hair, regardless of there religion)
This project is LOGICAL
oh yeah good point. In Qatar, do Qatari women drive..sorry for sounding a bit ignorant, because in the UAE very few Emarati women actually drive. Mainly the modern one's do.
Qatar Son 333 April 14th, 2009, 07:07 PM oh yeah good point. In Qatar, do Qatari women drive..sorry for sounding a bit ignorant, because in the UAE very few Emarati women actually drive. Mainly the modern one's do.
its not that your ignorant, maybe its just that people that really want this bridge to be built might know more of the positive side :cheers:
Yes, women in Qatar are allowed to drive, alot of Qatari women are driving because in our case for example a married couple with children means the driver of the family (expat) will drive the kids to school, while the parents (each in a diffrent car) would then go to work which might be far apart from each other... most women (nationals and expats) drive now, only the elderly are left with drivers to take them to where they want to go... sorry for talking way offtopic :bash:
here in Qatar (And Bahrain via Qatar) most women go to Abudhabi and Dubai for tourism (shopping, leisure etc) so now they are more free by not needing there husbands or parents to travel...
smussuw April 14th, 2009, 08:40 PM oh yeah good point. In Qatar, do Qatari women drive..sorry for sounding a bit ignorant, because in the UAE very few Emarati women actually drive. Mainly the modern one's do.oh, I thought that Qatar Son 333 was really rude but now I think that u are really dumb !
must7 August 30th, 2010, 11:02 AM ^^ Bahrain too :P what was it called again Union of Arab Emirates or somthing (still UAE huh) but yeah.. we were so close into becoming one country (would have been nice, dont you think)... anyways...
this bridge is going to connect Abudhabi (Emirate) to Messied (Closest place possible to connect... since lower than that is just sand dunes and the Saudi sea border...
http://www.3nabifantasy.com/up/uaeqatar.gif
^^ you could see where the bridge is in this picture...
Yes I think it would have been nice .. it is in unity that you have strength !
must7 August 30th, 2010, 11:03 AM I myself am an ardent supporter of an international highway between all the three countries i.e; Qatar / Saudi Arabia & UAE.
The bridge will have serious financial & enivronmental (let alone political) implications and I can see an international highway coming up quite quickly.
Regarding the comments on Saudi terms of usage of motorway, well I am sure the ladies will not mind covering for a 150 kms of the common International highway.
Also don't forget the construction period for such a bridge (nothing less than 5 to 8 years of construction period), while the common International highway can be achieved within a couple of years without any major engineering feat !
+ It could become a symbol of GCC joint cooperation !
Alrayyan December 22nd, 2010, 02:12 PM UAE 'ready' to host World Cup matches: top official
The UAE does not wish to be seen as gatecrashing Qatar's World Cup party in 2022, but is ready to host some matches if asked to do so, a top UAE football official has said.
"UAE will provide all help to Qatar in organising the World Cup. We are always willing to cooperate and even ready to host some matches if they request," said Yousef Mohammed Abdullah, general secretary of the UAE Football Association (UAEFA) in an exclusive interview with Emirates 24|7 on Tuesday.
Joseph Sepp Blatter, president of the sport's governing body Fifa, had fuelled speculation that Qatar could invite other countries to co-host the first World Cup to be held in the Middle East when he spoke on the sidelines of the Fifa Club World Cup held in Abu Dhabi last week.
"Since our neighbour Qatar was chosen to host the World Cup, we feel UAE will also be a part of the event even though we are not hosting it," said Abdullah referring to the close proximity geographically between the two countries.
"It is only 400km by road to Doha (Qatar's capital) from here. Once they build the bridge (UAE-Qatar causeway), it will be like travelling from Abu Dhabi to Sharjah. Anyway travelling distances are short unlike in South Africa (during 2010 Fifa World Cup) where it was 1,000km from Cape Town to Johannesburg," he pointed out.
"But we are happy that Qatar got it after a great fight against tremendous odds. When they are happy we must be happy. They made a good bid and want to introduce new technology to the world such as air conditioned stadiums. May be the Europeans can learn something from this because they have a problem when it snows during winter whereas ours is the heat," said Abdullah referring to the cancellation of English Premier League matches during the weekend because of heavy snow.
"I would personally like to see some matches being played here but it is the right of Qatar to host it. Any such request has to be made at government to government level. We will be the first country to benefit if there is such a decision," said Abdullah since UAE have the experience of hosting the Fifa Club World Cup twice.
"It makes us also feel happy that the World Cup is coming to Middle East for the first time. We want to do everything possible to help them organize it," he said.
"But Fifa has awarded it to Qatar because they know they can do a very good job," said Abdullah laying to rest speculation about Qatar farming some matches to the neighbouring Gulf states.
UAEFA president Mohammed Khalfan Al Rumaithi also said as much having been reported as saying he backed Qatar to stage the 2022 World Cup finals without the help of neighbouring countries.
"We have not been approached. Qatar won a fair competition and I read in the news that Mr Blatter said only the Qataris can decide if they want the region to participate in this," Al Rumaithi said.
"We know that at that moment when Mr Blatter opened the envelope [during the Zurich vote] it was only Qatar. They are our neighbours, they are our brothers...Let's believe in Qatar," he added.
"Nobody came out from Qatar and said 'would you do that?' We are happy for Qatar, they delivered the goods. I think they will go solo," Al Rumaithi said.
Qatar has also been silent on the issue since Blatter said it was upto the 2022 hosts to decide if they want to go it alone or stage some matches in the neighbouring countries.
© Emirates 24|7 2010
http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZAWYA20101221043710/UAE%20'Ready'%20To%20Host%20World%20Cup%20Matches%20-%20Official
OMG ! Is this project still alive ?
must7 February 2nd, 2011, 04:27 PM "But we are happy that Qatar got it after a great fight against tremendous odds. When they are happy we must be happy. They made a good bid and want to introduce new technology to the world such as air conditioned stadiums. May be the Europeans can learn something from this because they have a problem when it snows during winter whereas ours is the heat," said Abdullah referring to the cancellation of English Premier League matches during the weekend because of heavy snow.
& UAE can learn from the Canadians cause we have a covered retractable stadium since what more than 3 decades !
OMG ! Is this project still alive ?
Which project are you mentioning ?
The Abu Dhabi's retractable dome stadium was suppose to be the New Shaikh Khalifa stadium (capacity 65,000 persons), which after bidding is presently put on hold !
lorenzo23622 February 10th, 2012, 09:52 PM any news?
TEBC December 6th, 2012, 04:20 AM is it being built?
TEBC December 6th, 2012, 04:33 AM would it be built beofre 2020 for the WC?
killerk December 6th, 2012, 09:56 PM would it be built beofre 2020 for the WC?
Nope...it has just been planned...nothing beyond that!!
weld el dafna December 7th, 2012, 12:19 PM would it be built beofre 2020 for the WC?
This bridge was only proposed for political reasons i guess, although i hope i see it and use it one day . .i doubt it will happen and be built.
Plus Saudi Arabia is opening up a new boarder point with Qatar close to UAE soon at "Al udaid".
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