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kudlabobs
November 8th, 2009, 09:48 AM
Near Central Market

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engineer.akash
November 8th, 2009, 09:52 AM
Kudlabobs thanks ( a million times) :cheers:

Moorthy,Ajay and kudlabobs, the concreting works are awesome no doubt about that,Firstly,They need to shift those electric poles away from the roadway. As is being done in Mysore,in pictures which I posted few days back.

secondly,They need to do landscape the circle,grow some lawn or put in place some heritage structure.AS the circle is near the town hall which is an old structure,circle may define the area well.

Lastly,this city would look cleanest if the pavements are in place.

We just have to wait and see......:)

Mangalore's central market is no different from namma mysore central markets............:)

kudlabobs
November 8th, 2009, 09:56 AM
Pandeshwar Ideal Apartment

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kudlabobs
November 8th, 2009, 10:09 AM
Pandeshwar Forum Mall, foundation dugup 3 yrs back.

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ajay ramchandran
November 8th, 2009, 10:31 AM
Advantages are children, senior citizens, disabled ones will get additional benefits. KSRTC has commitment to run to remote areas. Also KSRTC employees get better compensation compared to many private bus employees.

I feel BMTC buses are now far better compared to private buses in Mangalore.

Akash, Volvo is under loss in Bangalore?


Akash and Moorthy

You are both right. Innovation in design so as to be people friendly is lacking in private buses. They decorate their buses ,put DVD' coaches but do not improvise the buses to help children ,Elderly etc. Infact TATA has come with new generation of buses and supplied in bulk to cities under the JNNURM scheme. The low bloor buses are a big boon to many groups of passengers.Similarly comensation in the event of an accident is better as pointed out by Moorthy.Sorry I am a bit prejudiced towards private operators because in my younger days ..seventees and eighties KSRTC was so sorrupt, their buses were dirty,frequency terrible ...so I had an aversion towards them . The state govts consistently neglected DK and Udupi districts in all matters . So private enterprise thrived. I left Mangalore in 1997. Since then I observe lots of things have changed for the better.

ajay ramchandran
November 8th, 2009, 11:05 AM
Old Clock Tower near town Hall area


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Now is that circle(old clock tower) next to the lamp mast meant to be a permanent one?Why is the mast not inside the circle .

ajay ramchandran
November 8th, 2009, 11:08 AM
Kudlabobs thanks ( a million times) :cheers:

Moorthy,Ajay and kudlabobs, the concreting works are awesome no doubt about that,Firstly,They need to shift those electric poles away from the roadway. As is being done in Mysore,in pictures which I posted few days back.

secondly,They need to do landscape the circle,grow some lawn or put in place some heritage structure.AS the circle is near the town hall which is an old structure,circle may define the area well.

Lastly,this city would look cleanest if the pavements are in place.

We just have to wait and see......:)

Mangalore's central market is no different from namma mysore central markets............:)


Akash ,I was browsing on the mangalore cityscapes. Unfortunate;ly I am not able to post comments as it is not allowing me to. The photo of Mangalore station is an old one as the board says 'Mangalore' instead of ' Mangalore Central'.

There is a proposal to demolish central market and build an a/c central markets to be competitive to retail chans like More and Reliance.

engineer.akash
November 8th, 2009, 11:09 AM
^^ :ohno: kindly PM the mods...... regarding the old markets its upto the civic authorities what they would like to have.mangalore being more forward when compared to its sister cities in karnataka probably the new A/C market is justified.

But if any proposal of such a kind pops up in mysore I will take to the streets opposing it.............:lol:

ajay ramchandran
November 8th, 2009, 11:10 AM
[QUOTE=kudlabobs;45868991]Pandeshwar Forum Mall, foundation dugup 3 yrs back.
With so many Malls in Mangalore will there be a scope for this Mall....if it ever comes up?

India101
November 8th, 2009, 12:32 PM
http://www.godrejproperties.com/projects.aspx?TypeId=2&Status=U&Id=16

Good find. Now is this Mangalores 4th project over 20 floors?

Krishnamoorthy K
November 8th, 2009, 01:44 PM
^^ As listed in Mangalore Highrises thread it is the 8th one proposed. But only one Inland Windsor is under construction for the time being.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29915586&postcount=9

I have not included Manipal building in the list.

engineer.akash
November 8th, 2009, 04:53 PM
KudlaBobs all the photos are posted???

Krishnamoorthy K
November 8th, 2009, 07:32 PM
MANGALORE: The Mangalore regional centre of Central Marine Fisheries Research Institute (CMFRI) will shortly have its own laboratory-cum-office building. Taking a step in this direction, Director General of Indian Council of Agricultural Research (ICAR) Mangala Rai laid the foundation stone for the building project to be executed by the Central Public Works Department (CPWD) at an estimated cost of 2.70 crore here on Saturday.

The project, Rai said, is a fine example of close cooperation between ICAR and Karnataka Veterinary, Animal and Fisheries Sciences University (KVAFSU), Bidar. ICAR, and the former vice-chancellor of KVAFSU R N Sreenivasa Gowda entered into an MoU last year to allocate varsity land at the technology wing campus of College of Fisheries at Hoige Bazaar for the project. College of Fisheries is a constituent college of KVAFSU.

More funds for the lab

Rai said the ICAR has allotted two hostel buildings for KVAFSU under the 11th Five Year Plan, and one of them would be set up at the College of Fisheries here as per a request made by the incumbent V-C Suresh S Honnappagol. The national leadership of ICAR recognises the importance of such partnerships with educational institutions, and it is such tie-ups which allows strengths of all concerned to be multiplied manifold times.

Admitting that KVAFSU in general, and College of Fisheries, in particular, has received a bad deal in the past, Rai promised that ICAR will scale up its funding for the laboratory and the office once the construction is over. There is great future for fisheries in this region, Rai said, adding that the laboratory will only go to ensure that the fruits of the research carried out here reaches the end users, namely the fishermen in the coastal parts.

Earlier, Honnappagol said that facilities created by ICAR and Universities of Agricultural Sciences in the states should be mutually utilized by all concerned so that the benefits reach the maximum number of people.

Lauding the keen interest taken by Rai in following up on the MoU at his level and ensuring that the project comes on stream at the earliest, Honnappagol said the laboratory would give fillip to aqua research in the region.

G Syda Rao, director, CMFRI hoped that the spin off of setting up the laboratory would contribute to ensuring richness of the marine life. Indian marine fish catch has gone up from 2.9 million tonnes in 2007-08 to 3.2 million tonnes in 2008-09, he said, adding that even Karnataka registered a positive growth with its fish catch registering a growth of 50,000 tonnes to reach 3 lakh tonnes in 2008-09 from 2.5 lakh tonnes in 2007-08.


Source: TOI (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/CMFRI-to-have-own-lab-office-building/articleshow/5209645.cms)

Now it is clear that CMFRI, Mangalore will work only on marine life and not on algae.

kudlabobs
November 8th, 2009, 09:49 PM
KudlaBobs all the photos are posted???




No Akash still a dozen photos pending.

kudlabobs
November 9th, 2009, 07:20 AM
City Centre K S RAO RD



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kudlabobs
November 9th, 2009, 07:40 AM
Excel-Mischief Mall -KS RAO ROAD



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kudlabobs
November 9th, 2009, 07:53 AM
K.S. RAO ROAD

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Krishnamoorthy K
November 9th, 2009, 07:59 AM
Excel-Mischief Mall -KS RAO ROAD
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The building closer to camera & adjacent to Poonja international is stuck up like that for a long time. Atleast they can demolish front portion to widen the footpath.

There are many buildings like this. One at the junction of Attavara road near railway station junction is also lying idle. There are many more.

^^ those lodges are oldest one of Mangalore still looking so elegant.

kudlabobs
November 9th, 2009, 08:02 AM
:banana:

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Krishnamoorthy K
November 9th, 2009, 10:54 AM
^^

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Krishnamoorthy K
November 9th, 2009, 11:04 AM
Mangalore Refineries and Petrochemical Ltd (MRPL) is planning to invest Rs 6,000-8,000 crore starting from early 2011. The company is looking at raising around Rs 5,000 crore to support its expansion plan, for setting up a polypropylene plant and to install a Single Buoy Mooring (SBM) at the port.

It is also planning to award additional projects worth Rs 3,960 crore by the end of this month. Speaking to Business Standard on the sidelines of the 15th Refining Technology Meeting organised by the Centre for High Technology in association with Chennai Petroleum Corporation Ltd (CPCL), U K Basu, managing director, detailed these plans and said they’d appointed SBI Capital Markets for raising the Rs 5,000 crore.

He said the company has a reserve of Rs 4,000 crore and is looking to raise the money by the start of 2011. “I am not ruling out raising the money from the markets, but it will depend upon the market condition and our cash position next year,” said Basu.


Source: BS (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/mrpl-to-raise-rs-5000-crore-by-2011/375826/)

Most probably Mangalore port will not be having LNG terminal. No news on Gas based power plant. Soon there will be gas pipeline to Kochi and Bangalore.

Also no news on PTA plant. They had called for EOI long back. (Indo Rama?)

For earlier post on MSEZ check #1319 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40184216&postcount=1319)

More than two years after conceiving a plan for mega refining and petrochemical hubs, India has yet to get one off the ground. So what is taking so long? (http://www.allbusiness.com/chemicals/petrochemicals-industry-petrochemicals-aromatics/13396239-1.html)

engineer.akash
November 9th, 2009, 11:55 AM
Hotel sujatha might have once been the pride of Mangalore??? :(

ajay ramchandran
November 9th, 2009, 04:26 PM
Hotel sujatha might have once been the pride of Mangalore??? :(


Hotel Sujataha was a very ordinary Hotel. It hasd a chinese restaurant called Hopei....which was one of the oldest chinese restaurants of Mangalore. It used to be very famous with the hundreds of Malaysian students of Mangalore and Manipal as they used to serve the traditional HAKA noodles which was mouthwatering. Mangalore has several good chinese restaurants now.

The building next to Poonja International was constructed several years ago and I guess there is a problem with the land of problem with flouting NBC guidelines.That is why it has not progressed. Used to be a petrol pump there duri ng my days at Mangalore. In 1997 or so ..few petrol pumps in Mangalore were dismantled to give way for commercial complexes. The one near MACO petrol pump at Balmatta was such an example.There used to be two petrol pumps side by side.

engineer.akash
November 9th, 2009, 05:55 PM
KS Rao road can be made oneway???? it seriously lacks space, while to houses high commercial outlets....is there an alternative road to carry the traffic otherway if KS Rao road was made oneway??

Krishnamoorthy K
November 9th, 2009, 06:57 PM
^^

Akash, KS Rao stands for Karnad Sadashiva Rao. He was a great independence struggle fighter from a place called Karnad near Mulky (writer Girish Karnad also from this place). Sadashiva Nagar the poshest place in Bangalore is named after KS Rao.

KS Rao Road, MG Road, the memorials for our great patriots, should always be two ways.

engineer.akash
November 9th, 2009, 07:25 PM
oh nice.............:)

ajay ramchandran
November 9th, 2009, 08:05 PM
oh nice.............:)


Akash

The pace where alukkas,excel and Mischief mall nowstands was an old Hotel called Vishwa Bhavan ,famous for udupi style food and Mangalore Golibhajes..The bus stop there was known as Vishwa Bhavan bus stop. with shops in the front...the most famous land mark of Mangalore in the olden days ...70's ,80's . The space opp Poonja hotel was the Service and Express bus stand ...now an open car park ...soon going to be a multi storied car park.Vishwa bhavan was bought by Bollywood actor Suneil Shetty in the ninetees for many crores.KS RAO road leads to Hampankatta junction which is the second busiest traffic junction in Karnataka.

engineer.akash
November 9th, 2009, 08:07 PM
^^ suniel shetty is into some real estate business in mangalore???Dint he leave for Bombay forever to pursue his dreams in bollywood???

engineer.akash
November 9th, 2009, 08:10 PM
Ajay I hope there are a few good old udupi style hotels existing even today in Mangalore.Are those udupi hotels being relocated? And does mangalore tiled homes have any significance in Mangalore??/

The city must not miss out on the heritage tags in the name of development.:)

engineer.akash
November 9th, 2009, 08:31 PM
pRETTY OLD IMAGE not sure of it being posted here earlier

copyright vijay

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ajay ramchandran
November 9th, 2009, 11:20 PM
^^ suniel shetty is into some real estate business in mangalore???Dint he leave for Bombay forever to pursue his dreams in bollywood???

He owns Mischief boutique and restaurant in Mangalore and now the Mischief mall. He has the mischief boutiuqe in Mumbai as well.Kusuma Bhandary Associates is his family firm ..or so I understand.

ajay ramchandran
November 9th, 2009, 11:30 PM
Ajay I hope there are a few good old udupi style hotels existing even today in Mangalore.Are those udupi hotels being relocated? And does mangalore tiled homes have any significance in Mangalore??/

The city must not miss out on the heritage tags in the name of development.:)

Many of the Good udupi hotels in Mangalore have been demolished to give way for commercial complexes. Udupi Krishna Bhavan known as UKP,Mohinivilas both on GHS Road arean example. They were both excellent Udupi hotels of my days.With the advent of apartment culture ,Mangalore tiles started losing business. I am told they are in demand now but definitely many tile factories have been closed. I am sure in future if the ring road ...the Mangala corniche comes up the land sharks will buy out these factories.Mangalore tiles are now used mainly for beutification . Earlier they served a purpose in keeping houses cool.

ajay ramchandran
November 9th, 2009, 11:51 PM
By Team Mangalorean
Pics: Rajesh Shetty

http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=154521

MANGALORE, November 9, 2009: The Mangalore City Corporation has won the prestigious Icon award for SWM instituted by the Quality Management Institute of Jadhavpur university of West Bengal. Displaying the glittering award Mayor of Mangalore Mr. Shankar Bhat told today that “it was a result of the immaculate work put in by the officers of the Corporation and co-operation of the people of Mangalore.”

Addressing a press conference here today Mr. Bhat said Mangalore was chosen as the second city in the country to be named as the best city for Solid Waste Management (SWM). The award was handed over to the Commissioner of Mangalore City Corporation Dr. Vijayaprakash at Kolkata recently.

Mr. Bhat said that a special team had come from Delhi to assess the SWM system in Mangalore, they had spent the entire day in the SWM plant in Vamanjoor in Mangalore and found out that it was one of the finest SWM plant in the country, the same group had gone to Bangalore, Pune, Coimbatore, Chennai, Kochi, Trivandrum and many other places, but they found the SWM plant in Mangalore second only to the one in Mysore.

Furthering the cause of the SWM the Mangalore City Corporation Environmental engineering department has earned second place in the country in efficient management of its solid waste. The Mangalore City Corporation has gone one step ahead to make the garbage dump of the city which is situated in Vamanjoor Odour free.
It has imported an enzyme from Mumbai entitled Fermcep which will destroy the entire odor producing substance on the surface of the dump. This was the first time in the state that this enzyme treatment has been planned Mr. Bhat added.

102 Urban Local Bodies from all over the country including Bangalore and Mumbai had participated in the meet.

Comparing Mangalore’s performance in SWM with that of Bangalore Mr. Bhat stated that the citizens of Mangalore have co-operated well with Mangalore City Corporation in keeping the city clean. Though only 40 percent of the houses have been covered in the Nirmala Nagara Yojana and house to house collection of segregated garbage, efforts having been stepped up to include all the houses in next two months. This will improve the garbage collection. He noted that the even BBMP was not able to cover 40 per cent of its houses under Nirmala Nagara Yojana and he himself had seen garbage being cleared only once in two days in posh areas like Dollars colony.

Mangalore City Corporation cleared 220 tons of garbage per day and it was expected to go upto 250 tons per day when Nirmala Nagara Yojana comes in its full bloom. He said the Urban Development Department has approved the three package garbage clearance which will further simplify the procedure of garbage collection and also more areas will come into coverage. Mangalore was fast moving towards bin-less garbage collection and disposal system he added.

Siruguppa, Bhatkal for cleanliness

Karnataka Minister for City Development, Law and Parliamentary Affairs S Suresh Kumar in a release here, said Jadavapur University, Centre for Quality Management System in West Bengal, conducted a survey of all cities in the country and awarded Mysore as the best and Mangalore as the second best in the country.

Besides, Siruguppa Town and Bhatkal Town were identified as awards winners for cleanliness and with less than one lakh population, Mr Kumar said, adding it is an incredible achievement for Karnataka.

The minister said national recognition would encourage the State to work with renewed vigour to improve its cleanliness and waste management technology.

The Minister lauded the winners for their performances.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 10th, 2009, 06:57 AM
The group, in addition to its coffee exports and retailing business is stepping up its infrastructure arm which manages special economic zones for software services industry in Bangalore and Mangalore spread over nearly 150 acres.

Source: BS (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/coffee-day-holdings-plans-rs-1700-cr-expansion/375853/)

kudlabobs
November 10th, 2009, 07:44 AM
Falnir Area, Ajay specially for you..


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kudlabobs
November 10th, 2009, 08:03 AM
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kudlabobs
November 10th, 2009, 08:09 AM
A.B Shetty Circle demolished


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kudlabobs
November 10th, 2009, 08:11 AM
Maidan Road


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kudlabobs
November 10th, 2009, 08:14 AM
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ajay ramchandran
November 10th, 2009, 09:28 AM
Kudla bobs ,Many thanks.I used to cross that dreadful Avery junction ...next to Malaba Gold on the way to Attavar Hospital on my Kinetic.Falnir road has never been properly shown on this site. It has one of the hihest concentration of apartments and posh houses in Mangalore ....and hospitals..Indira,Unity ,Highland..any more

scorpiogenius
November 10th, 2009, 10:51 AM
Nice shots again Kudlabobs, thank you :)
btw, why is the AB Shetty Circle being demolished? Are they going to create a bigger circle or any other plans with it?

kudlabobs
November 10th, 2009, 12:50 PM
Nice shots again Kudlabobs, thank you :)
btw, why is the AB Shetty Circle being demolished? Are they going to create a bigger circle or any other plans with it?


Scorpigoenius, At presentA.B Shetty circle's connecting roads are 1 feet higher for concrete. ie maidan road, state bank road and pandeshwar road. now this circle area is lower in all the sides . I think they will concrete the whole area and construct the circle or they may install signal light.

kudlabobs
November 10th, 2009, 01:27 PM
[QUOTE=kudlabobs;45868991]Pandeshwar Forum Mall, foundation dugup 3 yrs back.
With so many Malls in Mangalore will there be a scope for this Mall....if it ever comes up?


Ajay
I don't think there is scope for malls in mangalore . Empire mall is almost dead, few shops have already closed and AC is not working in many areas and the corridor light are very dim. You can see people going directly to third floor for games & food court. Even in Bharath mall A.C is not good only big bazaar and foodbazaar is having business. And if citycentre & Mischeif mall opens i don't know what other malls will do?.

In Pandeshwar instead of forum mall they may go for apartment or hotels. This location is good for 5 star hotel, plot size is about 5 acre and you will not get this huge size plot near hampankatta sure. Will wait and see..

Krishnamoorthy K
November 10th, 2009, 02:14 PM
Canadian city Vancouver has selected Mangalore as its twin city. The Mayor and the CEO of Vancouver will be soon visiting Mangalore to discuss on development and other projects. -- Udayavani

Earlier Hamilton was twin city and state bank circle was named Hamilton circle, but the Hamilton Tower was not constructed fully.

Th state government has greed for the MCC proposal of waste management of three packages. Shortly MCC is going to call a global tender for waste management. -- Udayavani

Kudla bobs ,Many thanks.I used to cross that dreadful Avery junction ...next to Malaba Gold on the way to Attavar Hospital on my Kinetic.Falnir road has never been properly shown on this site. It has one of the hihest concentration of apartments and posh houses in Mangalore ....and hospitals..Indira,Unity ,Highland..any more


I would like to call this road as Falnir Hospitals Corridor as starting from Wenlock to Father Muller plenty of Hospitals have sprung up - Athena Hospitsal, Indira Hospital, Unity Hospital, Highland Hospital, Arogya Multispeciality Clinic and a few clinics in West Gate Terminus - Medicity, etc.

engineer.akash
November 10th, 2009, 03:26 PM
Thanxs kudlabobs for those beautiful falnir pictures................Maidan road looks dusty..do they have any machine to sweep the roads??Dust is what I dislike to see on roads..........with such neat concreting only if dust was not there.......... :cheers:

Krishnamoorthy K
November 10th, 2009, 04:51 PM
Ajay I hope there are a few good old udupi style hotels existing even today in Mangalore.Are those udupi hotels being relocated? And does mangalore tiled homes have any significance in Mangalore??/

The city must not miss out on the heritage tags in the name of development.:)
Many of the Good udupi hotels in Mangalore have been demolished to give way for commercial complexes. Udupi Krishna Bhavan known as UKP,Mohinivilas both on GHS Road arean example. They were both excellent Udupi hotels of my days.With the advent of apartment culture ,Mangalore tiles started losing business. I am told they are in demand now but definitely many tile factories have been closed. I am sure in future if the ring road ...the Mangala corniche comes up the land sharks will buy out these factories.Mangalore tiles are now used mainly for beutification . Earlier they served a purpose in keeping houses cool.

Udupi Krishna Bhavan in front of Ganapati school is still there. I think (not sure) one more restaurant was there at the begining of GHS road at Nehru Maidan Road. The bus stand there used to be called Krishna Bhavan bus stop. Who knows the people may slowly forget even the name Vishwa Bhavan bus stop and start calling it Mischief bus stop? The Taj Restaurant on car street is gone, Taj on Maidan Road will also go as they have opened a new restaurant at Pachamrta at Nava Bharat Circle. New Udupi restaurants have come up near KSRTC bus stop. But around Hampankatte number of Udupi restaurants are decreasing I think.

Ajay has written correctly about Mangalore tiles. I love the view of Jeppu-Mangaladevi-Bolar standing on Netravati Bridge near Ullal. It is still so beautiful with so many chimneys of tile factories standing high in the cover of enormous number of coconut trees with the rivers and the sea. As Ajay said soon this view may vanish. I hope that the replaced view with high rise buildings will still be beautiful with lush greenery of coconut trees preserved.

I wish modern Mangalore should have 'Solar Roof Tiles'. But these tiles being manufactured in Managalore is a very very remote chance.

ajay ramchandran
November 10th, 2009, 11:49 PM
[QUOTE=Krishnamoorthy K;45978579]Canadian city Vancouver has selected Mangalore as its twin city. The Mayor and the CEO of Vancouver will be soon visiting Mangalore to discuss on development and other projects. -- Udayavani

Earlier Hamilton was twin city and state bank circle was named Hamilton circle, but the Hamilton Tower was not constructed fully.

Th state government has greed for the MCC proposal of waste management of three packages. Shortly MCC is going to call a global tender for waste management. -- Udayavani[/QUOT

From 1963 or so Mangalore was twinned with Hamilton. This was made possible by some canadian professors who used to work at KREC Surathkal. Even after they left there were regular correspondence between Civic authorities from Hamilton and Mangalore. Atleast good to hear Mangalore is twinned with Vancouver. Ideally this has to be put on the Welcome board of Mangalore in all the approach roads like NH17,48 AND from Talapady.

ajay ramchandran
November 10th, 2009, 11:54 PM
Udupi Krishna Bhavan in front of Ganapati school is still there. I think (not sure) one more restaurant was there at the begining of GHS road at Nehru Maidan Road. The bus stand there used to be called Krishna Bhavan bus stop. Who knows the people may slowly forget even the name Vishwa Bhavan bus stop and start calling it Mischief bus stop? The Taj Restaurant on car street is gone, Taj on Maidan Road will also go as they have opened a new restaurant at Pachamrta at Nava Bharat Circle. New Udupi restaurants have come up near KSRTC bus stop. But around Hampankatte number of Udupi restaurants are decreasing I think.

Ajay has written correctly about Mangalore tiles. I love the view of Jeppu-Mangaladevi-Bolar standing on Netravati Bridge near Ullal. It is still so beautiful with so many chimneys of tile factories standing high in the cover of enormous number of coconut trees with the rivers and the sea. As Ajay said soon this view may vanish. I hope that the replaced view with high rise buildings will still be beautiful with lush greenery of coconut trees preserved.

I wish modern Mangalore should have 'Solar Roof Tiles'. But these tiles being manufactured in Managalore is a very very remote chance.

Moorthy ,Yes I was referring to the UKP at the begining of GHS road from wenlock inpatient block.It was one of the best Udupi restaurants in Mnagalore. Of course Tajmahal opp. to Welock serves the best coffee.

ajay ramchandran
November 10th, 2009, 11:56 PM
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Ajay
I don't think there is scope for malls in mangalore . Empire mall is almost dead, few shops have already closed and AC is not working in many areas and the corridor light are very dim. You can see people going directly to third floor for games & food court. Even in Bharath mall A.C is not good only big bazaar and foodbazaar is having business. And if citycentre & Mischeif mall opens i don't know what other malls will do?.

In Pandeshwar instead of forum mall they may go for apartment or hotels. This location is good for 5 star hotel, plot size is about 5 acre and you will not get this huge size plot near hampankatta sure. Will wait and see..

Has the recession got to do anything? What will happen to Citi centre Mall?Will it meet the same fate?

Krishnamoorthy K
November 11th, 2009, 06:18 AM
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Courtesy: Udayavani (http://www.udayavani.com/epaper/PDFList.aspx?Pg=H&Edn=MN&DispDate=11/11/2009) subedition page 1.

There will be Honge Road, Dasavala Road, .... ?

Krishnamoorthy K
November 11th, 2009, 07:02 AM
T V Ramana Pai Memorial Hall
http://www.sobhadevelopers.com/projects/contracts/images/9.jpg

Infosys Food Court I, Mudipu?
http://www.sobhadevelopers.com/projects/contracts/images/125.jpg

Source: Sobha (http://www.sobhadevelopers.com/projects/contracts/9.html)

ajay ramchandran
November 11th, 2009, 10:25 PM
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Ajay
I don't think there is scope for malls in mangalore . Empire mall is almost dead, few shops have already closed and AC is not working in many areas and the corridor light are very dim. You can see people going directly to third floor for games & food court. Even in Bharath mall A.C is not good only big bazaar and foodbazaar is having business. And if citycentre & Mischeif mall opens i don't know what other malls will do?.

In Pandeshwar instead of forum mall they may go for apartment or hotels. This location is good for 5 star hotel, plot size is about 5 acre and you will not get this huge size plot near hampankatta sure. Will wait and see..

During my trip to India I went to spencer Mall in Madras . It was the Landmark store and the food court that was crowded. The fact it there are hardly any malls in any tier 2 cities in the South. Considering this Mangalore is far ahead of other cities.Looks like the supply might exceed demand. Mangalore is moving too fast...

scorpiogenius
November 12th, 2009, 01:19 AM
During my trip to India I went to spencer Mall in Madras . It was the Landmark store and the food court that was crowded. The fact it there are hardly any malls in any tier 2 cities in the South. Considering this Mangalore is far ahead of other cities.Looks like the supply might exceed demand. Mangalore is moving too fast...


I echo those thoughts. :yes:

Mangalore sure got potential but these malls which numbers into dozens surely won't have enough footfalls to be rendered sustainable. Citi Center mall could become a destination mall, but remains to be seen as to how the other big malls are going to fare. Not being pessimistic here, but I doubt if things haven't moved a bit too hastily for Mangalore in the organized retail and malls front.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 12th, 2009, 06:01 AM
MANGALORE: Those who have obtained licence for constructing buildings in the jurisdiction of the Mangalore local planning area before October 1, 2009 and have not started the construction will have to apply for fresh licence.

They will now have to construct the buildings according to the provisions of the new master plan.

Mangalore local planning area includes areas in the jurisdiction of the Mangalore City Corporation.

Deputy Commissioner of Dakshina Kannada V. Ponnuraj clarified this at a special meeting convened by Mayor M. Shankar Bhat at the city corporation here on Wednesday.

As the new master plan came into effect on October 1, all new structures would have to be built according to its guidelines, Mr. Ponnuraj said.
Those who have obtained licence and started constructing buildings before October 1 according to the erstwhile comprehensive development plan (CDP) can go ahead with the work (the master plan was earlier called the CDP).

However, those who have obtained licenses for building plans prepared according to the CDP and have not started construction as on October 1 will now have to revise the building plans. These building have to be built according to the provisions of the new master plan.

Vijayakumar Shetty, member, wanted to know if the new master plan was applicable if one or more floors were to be added to a building constructed some years ago. Mr. Ponnuraj said that the new master plan was applicable even in such cases and the builder would have to make necessary modifications.

At one point, Leader of the Opposition in the corporation council Harinath alleged that the new master plan was favourable only to those who would construct high-rise buildings.

However, the Deputy Commissioner said that he and other officials had studied the master plan and its guidelines could be adhered to even while building houses on sites measuring 20x30 ft. The Mayor said that councillors could meet Minister for Urban Development Suresh Kumar for seeking modifications in the plan. A decision to this effect could be taken in the next meeting of the council, he added.

The meeting also reviewed progress of development works being implemented in the city by the Karnataka Urban Infrastructure Development and Finance Corporation (KUIDFC). Arvind Shrivastav, KUIDFC Managing Director; N. Yogish Bhat, MLA; P.G. Ramesh, Commissioner of Mangalore Urban Development Authority, and K.N. Vijayaprakash, corporation Commissioner, were present.


Source: The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/12/stories/2009111259960300.htm)

Krishnamoorthy K
November 12th, 2009, 06:54 AM
Mumbai-based Hotel Krishna Palace Residency’s Managing Director Krishna Shetty is planning to expand his hospitality portfolio in South India. As part of the expansion plans, two budget hotels will be developed in Mangalore and Udipi in Karnataka. Land parcels have been acquired for the same. The construction of the Mangalore property will begin in 2010 and is expected to begin operations within two years hence. An investment of Rs seven crore for development of each property has been earmarked. The properties will be developed under the brand name Krishna Palace.

Suresh Shetty, Director, Krishna Palace Residency stated, “Since the hotel will be in the budget segment, we will cut short on the food and beverage facilities. The Mangalore property is located on the beach front; hence the clientele will be a good mix of both corporate and leisure.


Source: Travel Biz Monitor (http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/krishna-palace-residency-plans-two-budget-hotels-in-south-india-8816)

Krishnamoorthy K
November 12th, 2009, 05:40 PM
NEW DELHI: The Indian government's ambitious 'Passport Seva' project, which seeks to give out passports in three days, has missed another deadline
-- Friday, the 13th of November.

This will be the third time the external affairs ministry's project - a major e-governance initiative - will not meet its launch date. Officials are blaming software glitches for the delay.

The first deadline was in June, then October, before the revised date of Nov 13 was arrived at. The pilot project was to take off in Bangalore.

Minister of State of External Affairs Shashi Tharoor had said in a tweet dated Oct 30 that the project "should be rolled out next month after some technological snags delayed it".

According to officials, the physical infrastructure is ready. This includes a user-friendly building with swanky interiors, 25 counters and electronic token boards.

"The software which will be the basis for the new system is still having too much problem," said an official.

Information Technology major Tata Consultancy Services are in charge of implementing the project after it signed the contract in October 2008. The project is reportedly worth over Rs.1,000 crore.

The pilot project would have seen 'Passport Seva' centres in Bangalore and later in Hubli and Mangalore, also in Karnataka, followed by Chandigarh, Ludhiana in Punjab and Ambala in Haryana.

A mini centre will also be opened in Gulbarga (Karnataka) as an addition in the pilot project.

The project is to run for two months.

According to informed sources, the software is giving basic problems like flawed printing of passports. "There was a problem in audit trail," said an official.

In all the passport offices in the country and missions abroad, the ministry looks after the process of passport services, while the software is provided by the state-run National Informatics Centre.

"As far as software goes, we did not have any problem over the years," said a senior foreign ministry official.

But one key problem with the TCS has been lack of domain knowledge.

The Department of Information Technology's Standarization Testing and Quality Certification (STQC) has done three rounds of testing on the software. But all of them have found hundreds of bugs which are being slowly rooted out.

"We will have another round of STQC testing before we decide on the future course," he said.

The ministry has issued a letter to TCS invoking the penalty clause in the master services agreement -- after failing to start the pilot project in October.


Source: TOI (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Friday-the-13th-jinx-delays-Passport-Seva-project/articleshow/5223301.cms)

Indian IT industry is just a services industry. How can one expect domain knowledge from them? I think TCS will not be able to provide reliable software atleast for another year. It is not clear from the news why they are not using old software provided by National Informatics Centre.

Mangalore never gets passport office if things go like this. TCS may be developing a networked software with printing facility at Bangalore. Since Mangalore needs printing facility also better to have a passport office with old software of National Informatics Centre.

engineer.akash
November 12th, 2009, 08:37 PM
UGD project may end by June 2010

Mangalore, Nov 11, DH News Service:

The underground drainage (UGD) project being implemented by the Karnataka Urban Infrastructure Development and Finance Corporation (KUIDFC) is expected to be completed by June 2010, said Karnataka Urban Development and Coastal Environment Management Project (KUDCEMP) Superintending Engineer (Drainages) Maninarayan.


Making a presentation on the project’s progress at the Mangalore City Corporation on Wednesday, he said about 74.25 per cent of the physical target of the project has been achieved so far. “A total of 267 km of UGD, two sewage treatment plants (STP) and four wetwells have been completed with an expenditure of Rs 142.2 crore. The works of the remaining two STPs and 18 wetwells are on progress,” he said.

Maninarayan said it would be better if the City Corporation takes over the Kavoor STP at the earliest. He also suggested for an urgent formation the special purpose vehicle (SPV) of the MCC and the Mangalore Special Economic Zone (MSEZ) to look into the operations of the STP.

Deputy Commissioner V Ponnuraj said the formation of the SPV is already at its advanced stage. He also suggested the MCC to take a decision on individual UGD connections, especially at Kavoor and Pachanady areas since the works of STPs are completed there.

“Priority need to be given to maximise UGD connections, while the Corporation should pass a resolution on connection deposits, charges, tariff and positive and negative steps to be taken for the implementation of individual connections,” he observed. “MCC should formulate a policy on managing sewage while permitting new multi-storeyed buildings. The builders of multistoreyed apartments should take the responsibility of constructing and maintaining small-scale STPs of their own,” the DC said.

Earlier, making a presentation on the progress of KUDCEMP’s water supply pipeline, KUDCEMP Superintending Engineer (Water Supply) Syed Ilias Pasha said the project would be completely commissioned by the end of December 2009.

“Of the 35 water supply zones in the city, the pipeline has been commissioned in 11 zones in the north of the Kuloor bridge and five in the south. The works are almost complete in six other zones while those in 13 zones are in progress,” he explained.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/35448/ugd-project-may-end-june.html

Krishnamoorthy K
November 13th, 2009, 06:17 AM
Mangalore Nov 12: Mangalore City Corporation (MCC) has positively responded to the Karnataka Urban Infrastructure Development and Finance Corporation’s (KUIDFC) proposal of implementing 24x7 water supply scheme in the Corporation limits under public-private partnertnership (PPP) model.

The issue was thoroughly discussed during a day-long meeting held at the MCC council hall here on Wednesday, which was attended by KUIDFC Managing Director Aravind Srivastav and Deputy Commissioner V Ponnuraj.

Srivastav said the 24x7 water supply plan could be implemented in Mangalore on the lines of KUIDFC’s pilot project in Hubli-Dharwad, Belgaum and Gulbarga. “About 1,25,000 people of select parts of these cities are successfully getting 24x7 water since 2008. In two years, it has been proved that good results can be obtained in a contract system provided the civic body takes good initiative,” he said.

Making a presentation on the plan, CRISIL Infrastructure Advisory representative Rakesh Bangera said the proposed project may require about Rs 75 crore for its implementation.

“The staff strength in the water supply system need to be increased to 510 from the present 120. Under PPP model, the water tariff need to be increased by 10 per cent once in every 5 years. In this plan, by 2030, the minimum water tariff will be Rs 100 as against the existing Rs 65,” he explained.

However, councillors Harish Surathkal and Mariamma Thomas noted that the study has not made any reference to the sources of water on which the 24x7 system can rely. They also asked for alternatives during power failures.

DC V Ponnuraj said the new vented dam and the existing dam at Thumbe (that will be raised to 7 mts) will compensate the water requirements. At the same time, it has been agreed by the Shambhur AMR project that it will store water only during good flow of water.

Both Srivastav and Karnataka Urban Development and Coastal Environment Management Project (KUDCEMP) Superintending Engineer (Water Supply) Syed Ilias Pasha felt that about 40 per cent of water is being wasted in the MCC limits due to leakages. “If we can prevent leakages completely, sufficient water can be supplied to about 9 lakh people with the existing resources,” Pasha said.

Srivastav said the proportion of leakage is only 7 per cent in the three cities where 24x7 system has been implemented. Replying to the question on the problem of electricity in enforcing the scheme, he said water will be supplied through gravitational force by dividing the corporation area into hydraulic zones.

Mayor M Shanker Bhat, MLA N Yogish Bhat, Deputy Mayor Rajani Dugganna, Commissioner K N Vijayprakash and KUDCEMP Project Director J R Lobo were present.


Source: DHNS

Nobody is talking about Lakya dam now.

Hubli-Dharwad, Belgaum and Gulbarga seems to be ahead of Mangalore in implementation of 24x7 water supply scheme. ('Kannada Ganga' project?)

Krishnamoorthy K
November 13th, 2009, 06:43 AM
Curbs on parking soon (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/13/stories/2009111359310300.htm)

* Steps to be taken to widen many key roads in the city
* ‘Some contractors have been terminated’
* ‘Space constraints hampering progress of work’

MANGALORE: Deputy Commissioner V. Ponnuraj said on Thursday that a major drive would be launched to stop roads from being used as parking lots. Steps would be taken to widen many key roads in the city and construct a flyover at the Hampanakatta signal.

Addressing members of the Kanara Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI) here, Mr. Ponnuraj agreed with a member that a lot of space on the newly laid concrete roads was being used for parking. Promising a comprehensive drive against this in two months, he said, “Half-hearted efforts will not do. A series of actions have been planned.”

Terminated

He said there was a lull in the concreting of roads because some of the contractors who were guilty of shoddy work had been terminated. New contractors would soon be chosen and it was hoped that city would have good concrete roads in two or three months. Lack of space for utility shifting was also hampering the progress of work in some places, he said.

Under the new master plan, about 65 roads in the city, which were too narrow and could hardly take the city’s traffic, would be widened, he said. KCCI president Srinivas Kamath handed over a cheque of Rs. 2.2 lakh to the Deputy Commissioner for rehabilitation of flood victims in north Karnataka. This was the second instalment of the chamber’s contribution, he said.



Fund-diversion move approved by council (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/13/stories/2009111359440300.htm)

MANGALORE: The Mangalore City Corporation has diverted the funds it had originally set aside for renovating three busy circles here for the asphalting of three roads.

The council has approved the move.

However, Mayor M. Shankar Bhat said that the three circles — Hampankatta, Bunts Hostel and Ambedkar (near Jyothi cinema) — would be renovated with donors’ contributions. “We have not dropped the proposal of renovating these circles,” he told The Hindu.

The civic body diverted the Rs. 30 lakh it had earmarked for renovating Hampankatta Circle for laying a tarred road connecting Vishnumurthy Nagar (at Kulai) with National Highway 17. The Rs. 22.7 lakh reserved for renovating Bunts Hostel Circle has been diverted to tar a stretch on Malemar Road. Another Rs. 26.35 lakh reserved for renovating Ambedkar Circle has been diverted for tarring another stretch on Malemar Road.

Commissioner of the corporation K.N. Vijayaprakash said that Vijaya Bank had come forward to provide funds for renovating A.B. Shetty Circle. An official of Vijaya Bank told The Hindu that the bank had agreed to donate Rs. 33 lakh for renovating the circle.


Circles, flyovers, ... but, no subways for pedestrians.

avi mangalore
November 13th, 2009, 07:12 AM
hey guys i am a regular viewer of this thread, great job done by u guys ajay, moorthy, kudlabobs, akash, in keeping this thread active, regarding the mall scene in mangalore bharth mall is doing quite well except for some few shops , but thats the case in all malls in bangalore and chennai not all shops in a mall reap profit some survive, others close, new ones come up etc.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 13th, 2009, 07:46 AM
^^ avi mangalore, welcome to SSC.

There is a tendency and urge to do shopping in neat and clean environment than on road side where vehicles are allowed to run on shopping pedestrains.

Mostly, many of the mangaloreans prefer to buy vegetables and other food stuffs in neat shops.

Fishermen in foul mood over KFDC shops (http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=local&newsid=154768)
Fish sellers stage protest (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/13/stories/2009111358660300.htm)

http://mangalorean.com/images/newstemp22/20090809fish20.jpg

Even if KFDC closes these outlets now then private people may start opening outlets. It is always the case when somebody gets employment somebody else looses employment. But government should listen to these folks who are going to loose jobs and plan for alternative employments.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 13th, 2009, 08:52 AM
UGD project may end by June 2010
Maninarayan said it would be better if the City Corporation takes over the Kavoor STP at the earliest. He also suggested for an urgent formation the special purpose vehicle (SPV) of the MCC and the Mangalore Special Economic Zone (MSEZ) to look into the operations of the STP.

Deputy Commissioner V Ponnuraj said the formation of the SPV is already at its advanced stage. He also suggested the MCC to take a decision on individual UGD connections, especially at Kavoor and Pachanady areas since the works of STPs are completed there.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/35448/ugd-project-may-end-june.html

There should not be any house constructions around stinking STPs, instead it would be better to develop area around STPSs as miniforests. And also areas around cremation grounds should be developed as miniforests. One bad example is Harishchandraghat in Bangalore were lot of houses around the cremation ground are complaining about burning smells. Either they have to come up with a new technique of reducing bad smells or avoid house constructions.

ajay ramchandran
November 13th, 2009, 09:54 AM
hey guys i am a regular viewer of this thread, great job done by u guys ajay, moorthy, kudlabobs, akash, in keeping this thread active, regarding the mall scene in mangalore bharth mall is doing quite well except for some few shops , but thats the case in all malls in bangalore and chennai not all shops in a mall reap profit some survive, others close, new ones come up etc.


Well said
and Welcome to the site and the group.Some of us do not live in Mangalore currently. If you are living in Mangalore photos are most welcome. What the active people do in other groups do is to visit estate agents and put their proposed projects in colour on the site.

ajay ramchandran
November 13th, 2009, 09:55 AM
hey guys i am a regular viewer of this thread, great job done by u guys ajay, moorthy, kudlabobs, akash, in keeping this thread active, regarding the mall scene in mangalore bharth mall is doing quite well except for some few shops , but thats the case in all malls in bangalore and chennai not all shops in a mall reap profit some survive, others close, new ones come up etc.


Have any shops opened in City centre ?lifestyle

engineer.akash
November 13th, 2009, 03:06 PM
Friday, November 13, 2009 2:31:50 PM (IST)

Mangalore: DC Unveils Dream Plans for City Development


Daijiworld Media Network – Mangalore (SP)

Mangalore, Nov 13: Delivering a lecture on ‘Development Plans of Dakshina Kannada’ at a programme organized at the auditorium of Kanara Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI) by KCCI on the evening of Thursday November 12, district deputy commissioner, V Ponnuraj, said that the district administration has plans to build a fly over at Hampankatta to ease the traffic snarls at Hampankatta Circle. He added that Milagres Church administration has already given its nod for the plan.


He revealed that the owners of Jyoti Talkies have given their consent for the road widening work at Jyoti Circle, and that works have already begun there. He also assured that the long-pending work of widening Car Street here, will be taken up at the earliest.

He requested those who are engaged in spreading misguided campaign against the new Master Plan – 2 for the city, which was approved by Mangalore Urban Development Authority, to stop spreading rumours. They have been wrongly spreading the information that the master plan is anti-poor, which is a wrong notion, he added. The DC also requested the citizens to wholeheartedly give up their lands for the widening of 65 roads, that are planned to be developed as per the master plan.

While observing that service sectors like banking, health, education etc., have done exceedingly well in the district, he expressed disappointment about the growth of the other sectors. The DC also said that an elaborate plan will be drafted to streamline traffic in the city, within the next two months.

KCCI president Srinivas Kamat, vice-president G G Mohandas Prabhu and Chandrkant Rao were present.

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=68262&n_tit=Mangalore%3A+DC+Unveils+Dream+Plans+for+City+Development

salman_mlore
November 13th, 2009, 04:12 PM
Hello guys,

You people are really doing great job here. I have been visiting here quite often and I heartily appreciate all of you for your dedicated work. Of course the information and snaps you guys have provided here will surely help our beloved city in investment if suppose any investor come across here. Also this thread/forum will be Mangalore’s gateway to the world. Keep the good work guys and God willing it will help and be fruitful to our beloved city.

engineer.akash
November 13th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Road widening: residents say no to acquisition

TNN 13 November 2009, 10:54pm IST

MANGALORE: Irate residents of Vyasa Rao Road at Kadri strongly opposed the alleged move of the city corporation to widen the road from 40 feet to
60 feet, which meant large-scale acquisition of properties on this residential locality, on Friday.

The residents, who poured out their woes to deputy commissioner V Ponnuraj, corporation mayor Shankar Bhat and commissioner Vijay Prakash urged them to direct the corporation to expedite the work and also make proper arrangements for the movement of pedestrians, who were finding it difficult to cross the deep trenches dug across the road to put utilities.

DCSPEAK
Poonuraj assured residents of the Vyasa Rao Road, the road was being widened only up to a width of 40 feet and not 60 feet and the widening work will commence only after corporation constructs the demolished portion of the properties being acquired on that road. He also said that the Transfer of Developmental Rights (TDR) was being revised so that the land owners, who lose their land in this widening drive, would get better benefits than the earlier compensation rates based on government valuation.

The residents, in a letter submitted to the DC, alleged the corporation authorities were trying to widen the road beyond 40 ft to help builders, who have bought land in that area, to get better Floor Area Ration (FAR).

They said they did not oppose concretization and had been putting up with difficulties in approaching their homes since the past one month, but they failed to find a rationale behind the corporation's move to increase the road width to 60 ft. The residents said on Thursday, fresh marking was being done to expand the road width to 60 ft, which was not required as it was purely a residential area. The DC, after talking to corporation authorities, said the area would require a 60 ft road according to comprehensive development plan (CDP), but for the time being it would not be more than 40 ft. Of the 40 ft, the carriageway would be 30 ft and five ft on each side would be for footpaths.

They also brought to the notice of the DC that the residents have already lost land when the dead end road was connected to Kadri-Kambala decades back. The DC later inspected the PVS junction where there is a proposal to make free left for traffic arriving from M G Road towards Bunts Hostel by demolishing a building at the corner.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/Road-widening-residents-say-no-to-acquisition/articleshow/5228000.cms

engineer.akash
November 13th, 2009, 08:04 PM
All roads to be concretized in 3-4 years: DC

TNN 13 November 2009, 10:53pm IST

MANGALORE: Presenting the master plan to sort out problems related to traffic congestion and drainage system in the city, Dakshina Kannada deputy
commissioner V Ponnuraj said all roads of the city would be concretized within 3-4 years and a flyover will be constructed at Hampanakatta.

Delivering a talk on development plans for the city, organized by Kanara Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI), here on Thursday, he said plans for constructing the flyover were at a conception stage and the proposal to this effect had been made in the Comprehensive Traffic and Transportation Plan (CTTP) for Mangalore.

The road widening works in the city limits would be completed in the next 3-4 months. Though people have to suffer from the road widening works, good roads would be at people's service once the works were completed. Besides, a Rs 7 crore grant has been earmarked for the asphaltation of other roads. Quality works would be undertaken to ensure that the asphalted roads last at least for the next few years, he said adding that roads would be widened at Jyothi circle and PVS circle.

KADRI, TAGORE PARKS TO BE DEVELOPED

Mangalore City Corporation (MCC) was initiating steps to sort out the parking problems in the city and stern steps would be initiated against violators of rules in the near future. Referring to the development of lung space, he said a comprehensive plan for the development of Kadri Park was ready and grants have been earmarked to develop Tagore Park. Expressing deep concern over the drainage system in the city he said the Mumbai model flood situation may occur in the city in the coming days if scientific sewage and storm water drains system was not introduced. Unscientific growth of the city was a matter of concern. A comprehensive study was being undertaken in this connection and no construction activities would be allowed in areas identified for drain mapping, he said.


TOI

Krishnamoorthy K
November 13th, 2009, 08:19 PM
^^ Only Kadri park, Tagore park? No new parks? Think, they are more interested in developing parking complexes.

Every ward in Mangalore should have one park. Why should children travel all the way to Kadri Park, Tagore Park or Gandhi Park? Where are play grounds? stadiums? If children do not get playgrounds near by what are they supposed to do?


^^^^^^ Salman Mlore, welcome to ssc.

engineer.akash
November 13th, 2009, 08:25 PM
^^ yes mangalore requires more open spaces...........Its turning out to be a concrete jungle .........with vertical growth which is actually not a good sign of a planned city.........

I guess Mangalore lacked planning??

Krishnamoorthy/Ajay can u elaborate on that??

Most of the European cities are flat well planned which seems from the pictures(Ofcourse not been there :lol:)

Mysore is mostly flat with ample green open space seated nicely around the hill I hope no high rises come around the city......:cheers:

engineer.akash
November 13th, 2009, 08:28 PM
^^ krishnamoorthy I have one more doubt If the area around hampankatta was well planned then there would not have been a proposal for a flyover.
"More Flyovers only means more unplanned the city is" :)

Krishnamoorthy K
November 13th, 2009, 08:30 PM
I think there is a misconception. Some of these people think independent houses are for poor. Appartmental complexes are for rich. Can anybody tell me the cost of a 30ft x 40ft independent house and cost of a 30ft x 40ft flat with same facilities? Which one is luxury? An independent house or a flat?

Krishnamoorthy K
November 13th, 2009, 08:37 PM
^^ yes mangalore requires more open spaces...........Its turning out to be a concrete jungle .........with vertical growth which is actually not a good sign of a planned city.........

I guess Mangalore lacked planning??

Krishnamoorthy/Ajay can u elaborate on that??

Most of the European cities are flat well planned which seems from the pictures(Ofcourse not been there :lol:)

Mysore is mostly flat with ample green open space seated nicely around the hill I hope no high rises come around the city......:cheers:

Akash, I think high rises can accomodate more people and can save more space for greenery. Singapore is a much quoted example for dense population, high rises but richest biodiversity in the world.

engineer.akash
November 13th, 2009, 08:39 PM
I think there is a misconception. Some of these people think independent houses are for poor. Appartmental complexes are for rich. Can anybody tell me the cost of a 30ft x 40ft independent house and cost of a 30ft x 40ft flat with same facilities? Which one is luxury? An independent house or a flat?

^^ krishnamoorthy isnt it good if you were to own a piece of land and build a house which pleases you most.......flats are mostly like cellars :nuts:

I love to own an independent home in managalore and do some good gardening in the malnad area:cheers:

In mysore atleast the rich own huge bungalows you must be aware that recently a house won a national award for best architecture.... :cheers:

You got to go to areas like jayalakshmipuram,gokulam,joy circle,ramkrishnanagr,kuvempunagar in mysore all are one the best residential layouts with ample parks and beautiful/aesthetically appealing homes........:cheers:

Which I find is lacking in Mangalore.............

engineer.akash
November 13th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Akash, I think high rises can accomodate more people and can save more space for greenery. Singapore is a much quoted example for dense population, high rises but richest biodiversity in the world.

^^ mangalore population isn't high and it has ample space to expand eastwards..........why is it going vertical Its only the NRI money which has led to the hyping of real estate.........MCC must think about it seriously.........

In that aspect i appreciate Mysore city corporation and MUDA which has taken steps to check high rises in the city area which hosts most of the heritage structures.........:cheers:


but I have always loved to see a city with well planned layouts...........

engineer.akash
November 13th, 2009, 08:47 PM
krishnamoorthy check this house in Mysore's residential layout

Unique Architecture on Jayalakshmi double road

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2691/dsc06729.jpg


http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7932/dsc06730x.jpg

Krishnamoorthy K
November 14th, 2009, 05:53 AM
^^ mangalore population isn't high and it has ample space to expand eastwards..........why is it going vertical Its only the NRI money which has led to the hyping of real estate.........MCC must think about it seriously.........

In that aspect i appreciate Mysore city corporation and MUDA which has taken steps to check high rises in the city area which hosts most of the heritage structures.........:cheers:


but I have always loved to see a city with well planned layouts...........

Akash, Himalayan mountains and Sahyadri ranges are richest heritages of India. If Mangalore expands eastwards converting farmlands to residential colonies then farmers may start converting forests to farmlands.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 14th, 2009, 06:33 AM
MANGALORE, November 14, 2009: The Deputy Commissioner of Dakshina Kannada Mr.V.Ponnuraj has ordered fast completion of concrete roads, he has told the contractors and officials to complete the concrete roads in time and maintain quality as well.

Mr. Ponnuraj who took a tour of the road projects presently going on in the city told reporters that 18 roads were now undergoing full concretization but only 15 of them were being constructed, three more will come into construction in few more days.

He said the Mallikatta Bunts hostel road has run into problems following the contractor has been delaying the work, as a result the district administration had to cancel the contract and soon a new contractor will take up the work. In few other roads work had suffered minor snags which are being looked into by the experts Mr. Ponnuraj told. The M.G. Road will be widened further, for which the survey work was being taken up shortly.

A few roads including the car street will be taken up for widening and in few cases the tendering process had already begun. Land acquisition will be done as per the required compensation programme suggested by the government.

Mayor Shankar Bhat who was present on the occasion told pressmen that there was a proposal of building a fly over at Hampankatta for which private participation was expected to materialize.

On the same tour the Deputy Commissioner had also visited the Gujari area (metal scrap area) which is one of the most dangerous parts of the city, not only for pedestrian and motorist point of view but also communally sensitive point of view. A few scrap dealers here have always played the communal chords whenever the district administration has tried to improve the conditions in that area, they have appealed to the government that the district administration was trying to harm the interests of minorities and their livelihood in that area.

The Corporation report which has been presented to the council on more than two times in the past states that many of the scrap dealers there have encroached on the road with scrap from automobiles dumped on the roads. The roads in this area have become narrow despite the roads being wider. But no Corporator or Mayor in the past has shown the courage to reclaim the road from encroachers.

The Deputy Commissioner Mr. Ponnuraj who visited this area has appealed to the scrap dealers to not to encroach the roads and try to do business as per the norms and rules. He told them since this area needs immediate restoration the scrap dealers should co-operate with the administration.

In another observation the Deputy Commissioner has told that he had come to know that many persons in this city have encroached on the government land and many other public places with the connivance of government officials, several Grama panchayat members and secretaries were trying to allow private parties to encroach lands in ecologically sensitive areas like Coastal Regulation Zone and public places and parks.


Source: Mangalorean (http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=155308)

A few years back I was thinking only Bangaore has road side garage problems (check Banashankari busstop area or for that matter even Sampige Raod, Malleshwaram has many road side garages). But, now even many of Mangalore roads are filled with autos and cars parked on roads for repair works. Many garages are there on Attavara road, even St Agnes - Mallikate area has a few garages creating problems for pedestrains and road users. Happy that Falnir Road garages have vanished. It is better to declare some of dedicated areas as garage zones and segregate them out for those works instead of allowing garages to come up in each and every road of the city.

avi mangalore
November 14th, 2009, 06:35 AM
Have any shops opened in City centre ?lifestyle

i had recently been to citi center interior works in full swing, mind you this is going to turn out to be one big tourist attraction of mangalore, when works finished this mall can outbeat any of the malls in bangalore or chennai, 23 escalators have installed , some are placed inside the stores itself for eg liestyle, westside which are 2 to 3 floors, there is also a travelator which is yet to arrive that will be used from the hypermarket (spar hypermarket) to the parking lot, as per the promoters lifestyle will open on dec around christmas, as for westside and multiplex may open in jan end.

since i am from mangalore i will post pitchures of new roads, apartments, very soon

ajay ramchandran
November 14th, 2009, 10:22 AM
^^ yes mangalore requires more open spaces...........Its turning out to be a concrete jungle .........with vertical growth which is actually not a good sign of a planned city.........

I guess Mangalore lacked planning??

Krishnamoorthy/Ajay can u elaborate on that??

Most of the European cities are flat well planned which seems from the pictures(Ofcourse not been there :lol:)

Mysore is mostly flat with ample green open space seated nicely around the hill I hope no high rises come around the city......:cheers:




Akash ,Mangalore is a very well UNPLANNED CITY. For years repeated state govts have neglected the city and not invested in any layouts like that happened in Bangalore ,Mysore or Hubli. One thing to remember is Mangalore's growth is limited to the west by the Arabian sea. It has expanded 23 Kms to the North and to the south till talapady . To the east it is just not possible to build big layouts as there isno flat land. Beyond Kadri the topography consists of hills and one has to flatten hills to create layout. Dsetruction in this way is unscientific. Now while the state govts neglected Mangalore the private enterprise found an easy and economical way of sorting out Mangalore's housing problems. They started building apartments in the seventees. They needed only small piece of land and they could reap profits. So apartments stared mushrooming ,first in the seventees and there was a boom in the 80's and that continueed in the 90's till date. Now it is very difficult to say which is better . It is very subjective and based on individual perception. Many people like individual houses but there are others like myself who like apartments (I do not have one now.) ...less maintainence ,better security etc. With the advent of nuclear family,people living longer etc flats became a hassle free option.The big advantage is to use minimum space ..as in Singapore.(Moorthy has mentioned.)

There has been a proposal to build a flyover in Hampanakatta for the past 30 years and Jyothi. Initially there was lot of interest and a report was submitted by one of the private or govt organisation but as you know in India in those days no one was proactive and for these projects to come up you need political will and money from Bangalore but that was not forthcoming either. In the meantime in the 80's the corporation gave permission for high rise buildings left ,right and centre and then came a building called Hotel Dhanyavad right at the Hampankatta traffic light. That building should never have come up. Before that there was a shop called Sushil corporation there which used to sell LP records ...they closed down the shop and demolished the building. Dhanyavad was one of the most controversial building to come up in the eighties. That area should have been acquired by the corporation.

NOW I hope you vaguely know what was Mangalore's problem.I have never seen a proactive corporation like the present one.Ofcourse the previous corporation should get the credit for four laning MG Road.

ajay ramchandran
November 14th, 2009, 10:26 AM
i had recently been to citi center interior works in full swing, mind you this is going to turn out to be one big tourist attraction of mangalore, when works finished this mall can outbeat any of the malls in bangalore or chennai, 23 escalators have installed , some are placed inside the stores itself for eg liestyle, westside which are 2 to 3 floors, there is also a travelator which is yet to arrive that will be used from the hypermarket (spar hypermarket) to the parking lot, as per the promoters lifestyle will open on dec around christmas, as for westside and multiplex may open in jan end.

since i am from mangalore i will post pitchures of new roads, apartments, very soon

This mall is huge...8 lakh square feet is no joke.

Is there SPAR in India? It is supposed to be the world largest food retailer although I do not visit SPAR here. This is a European (Netherlands). Most SPAR shops here in the UK are small.City centre I am told is fully booked.I am told there is parking at 5 levels . is it true.

engineer.akash
November 14th, 2009, 10:42 AM
^^ Thanx ajay for the clarification............yes it is difficult to plan layouts on hills.........

thanks krishnamoorthy for your views :cheers:

Krishnamoorthy K
November 14th, 2009, 10:55 AM
They are thinking of having flyover from Hampanakatte upto Jyothi (Aravind motors)? Probably they may be thinking of extending upto Kankanady bypass? MCC have a plan for expanding MG Road but no news on KRR Road which is overly congested.

What about Metro Rail? Have they identified the areas through which metro pass through? How to integrate metro plan with flyovers plan? Better to have a plan even though not going for metro immediately.

engineer.akash
November 14th, 2009, 10:57 AM
^^ What mangalore is getting a metro rail service???? :uh:

ajay ramchandran
November 14th, 2009, 11:28 AM
They are thinking of having flyover from Hampanakatte upto Jyothi (Aravind motors)? Probably they may be thinking of extending upto Kankanady bypass? MCC have a plan for expanding MG Road but no news on KRR Road which is overly congested.

What about Metro Rail? Have they identified the areas through which metro pass through? How to integrate metro plan with flyovers plan? Better to have a plan even though not going for metro immediately.


About KRR road I was equally surprised . Why are they not four laning that road. It has been a very busy road all the time.SometimesI feel it is busier than KS Rao Road.The govt has alrady deposited one crore with KRCL for sky bus transport in Mangalore from Mulki to Mangalore. A survey was supposed to be done . May be with road improvements things might become better.I am told Kochi is planning to have one . Atleast in Mangalore road improvements are happening.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 14th, 2009, 11:46 AM
^^ What mangalore is getting a metro rail service???? :uh:

There were talks going on. I am just suggesting them to identify the land so that no major construction works will be taken in the vicinity of these lands.

pachhu2006
November 14th, 2009, 12:26 PM
Thanks for updating the pics in SSC ajay. Check out todays Udayavani News paper there is a new proposal of Apartment...

Krishnamoorthy K
November 14th, 2009, 12:41 PM
Prashanth, Classique Signature is already posted in page 48.
http://66.249.128.93/showthread.php?p=30245596

Mak Grand, Bendorewell - may be from Mak Mall group

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ppk29u.jpg

Source: Udayavani

pachhu2006
November 14th, 2009, 12:45 PM
Hi Friends..
N.H.17 B.C.Road to suruthkal road is better now but to complete it will take another 2 years thats sure.. V can hardly see 20 to 25 workers working for 36 or 40 km in N.H.17
kuntikana fly over is ready but its of third grade.( Sorry to say this). Suruthkal and Kottara chowki flyover works has started now after an gap of 1 year.

ajay ramchandran
November 14th, 2009, 12:55 PM
There were talks going on. I am just suggesting them to identify the land so that no major construction works will be taken in the vicinity of these lands.

We have had some good workaholic DC's in the past. Bharatlal meena was one..when he started doing some work he was transferred. Hope the same thing does not happen now. The politicians are very unpredicatable.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 14th, 2009, 01:04 PM
^^ Yes, both Dakshina Kannada and Udupi are showing some rapid infrastructural developments now. We can ask for more when somebody is willing.

kudlabobs
November 14th, 2009, 01:40 PM
This mall is huge...8 lakh square feet is no joke.

Is there SPAR in India? It is supposed to be the world largest food retailer although I do not visit SPAR here. This is a European (Netherlands). Most SPAR shops here in the UK are small.City centre I am told is fully booked.I am told there is parking at 5 levels . is it true.



Yes Ajay i visited SPAR in bangalore last year. There were lot of food items but very costly, a small piece of cake costing up to rs 600 imported. This year i heard they stopped most of these items no buyers.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 14th, 2009, 02:32 PM
* It will help take steps to prevent flooding: Deputy Commissioner
* Storm-water drains being sacrificed for laying roads: Ponnuraj
* Concern over developers flouting rules while forming new layouts

MANGALORE: Deputy Commissioner V. Ponnuraj has ordered mapping of natural drains in Mangalore to ensure that a Mumbai-like situation does not arise here during heavy rain.

Pointing out that roads such as Car Street were flooded during the recent spell of heavy rain caused by Cyclone Phyan, Mr. Ponnuraj said that Mumbai-like flooding of roads was not far from happening in Mangalore if the kind of development taking place now was allowed to continue. He was speaking on the city’s development at the Kanara Chamber of Commerce and Industry on Thursday.

The Deputy Commissioner said that storm-water drains were being sacrificed for laying roads. The open drains were covered rendering it impossible to remove silt, thereby reducing the space available for rainwater to flow, he said. Areas such as Kannur and the seaward side of Kuloor were getting filled up, which had stopped the natural flow of water towards sea and this had resulted in the rainwater flooding the city.

Since low-lying areas were being levelled unscientifically, a mapping of the natural drainage system had been ordered, he said.

He said a study by a professor in the National Institute of Technology-Karnataka had shown that an 11-metre-wide canal was required to be built in the city to take rainwater to the sea. He said he had stopped two development projects as they came in the way of building this canal.
Mr. Ponnuraj regretted that none of the layouts under construction in the city were approved. Layouts were coming up bypassing the rules that made it mandatory for the developer to leave 30 per cent of the area for roads and drains.


Source: The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/14/stories/2009111459330300.htm)

I remember Bangalore flood and Raja Kaluve.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 14th, 2009, 03:15 PM
Councillors of Mangalore City Corporation (MCC) irrespective of party-affiliation opposed the Mangalore Urban Development Authority’s (MUDA) Comprehensive Development Plan (CDP) for Mangalore in its present manner.

During a day-long meeting held at MCC’s Council Hall here on Wednesday, the councillors including Opposition leader Harinath and the council’s Chief Whip Ganesh Hosabettu opposed the CDP saying that the MUDA has not consulted any of the corporators while drafting the plan.

Harinath said the plan denies the poor and the middle class people the rights of constructing their own houses. He suggested that the Corporation can go to High Court against the implementation of the CDP.

Independent councillor Mariamma Thomas said the plan should make provisions for making alternative arrangements for those who may lose their sites as per the new CDP. She said though about 1,200 objections had been filed against the proposal of the new CDP, the planners did not consider them at all.

Senior corporator James D’Souza and former mayor Shashidhar Hegde too opposed the plan and urged for several modifications.

MUDA Commissioner P G Ramesh said public consultation had been done before drafting the plan.

He also said there would be no problems in conversion of agriculture land or building house in a farm land.

Deputy Commissioner V Ponnuraj suggested that the MCC could invite the Director of Town Planning and conduct a discussion with him to clear any doubts. He said it is a wrong notion that the people with small sites (with 3 to 5 cents of land) cannot build their own houses as per the new CDP.

Drawing the councillors’ attention on the new development of dividing land holdings into smaller sites and selling them, the DC said the corporation should take a firm decision to prevent this trend.

“This is not being done by the people with small sites but by the rich land developers,” he noted.

Mayor M Shanker Bhat, MLA N Yogish Bhat, Deputy Mayor Rajani Dugganna and Commissioner K N Vijayprakash were present on the occasion.


Source: DHNS (http://www.deccanherald.com/content/35702/mcc-opposes-cdp-prepared-muda.html)

Complaints against National Building Code?
Now KURM will also be based on JNNURM.

ajay ramchandran
November 14th, 2009, 03:34 PM
Yes Ajay i visited SPAR in bangalore last year. There were lot of food items but very costly, a small piece of cake costing up to rs 600 imported. This year i heard they stopped most of these items no buyers.

I am not surprised. Here in the UK they are a non entity as the big players are TESCO,ASDA WALLMART AND SAINSBURY.There are many small SPAR stores around and they store only limited items.

ajay ramchandran
November 14th, 2009, 03:44 PM
^^ krishnamoorthy I have one more doubt If the area around hampankatta was well planned then there would not have been a proposal for a flyover.
"More Flyovers only means more unplanned the city is" :)
The fact is that in India no planning has been done in the long term due to various reasons ...lack of insight,lack of money,corruption. Most of the cities in India except a few are unplanned cities..In the past we Indians had this chalta hai attitude and no one questioned anything . No one forecast the sudden rapid growth from economic liberalisation of the 1990's carried out by PVN Rao.Suddenly we have been caught unawares.

engineer.akash
November 14th, 2009, 04:00 PM
The fact is that in India no planning has been done in the long term due to various reasons ...lack of insight,lack of money,corruption. Most of the cities in India except a few are unplanned cities..In the past we Indians had this chalta hai attitude and no one questioned anything . No one forecast the sudden rapid growth from economic liberalisation of the 1990's carried out by PVN Rao.Suddenly we have been caught unawares.

true Ajay.......we have very few planned cities like chandigarh,gandhinagar etc......noida gurgaon....?

engineer.akash
November 14th, 2009, 07:45 PM
MCC, MUDA to survey major roads

TNN 14 November 2009, 10:34pm IST

MANGALORE: Mangalore City Corporation and Mangalore Urban Development Authority will soon survey other major roads in their limits, apart from
the 65 already notified as per the new master plan for widening, deputy commissioner V Ponnuraj said. These urban local authorities are expected to complete the task of surveying these roads in the next six months to one year and chalk out a plan of action for widening them.

Moderating a session at a workshop on master plan II here on Saturday, the DC said such a survey is inevitable if the city has to move towards planned roads. Reminding the stakeholders, namely consulting civil engineers, architects and builders, that they have a vital role to play in taking forward the development agenda forward in association with MUDA and MCC, he urged them to cooperate with these bodies in a bigger manner.

Nine-metre roads

On the issue of the master plan mandating nine-metre roads for all future layouts as a condition to issuing license, the DC agreed with the suggestion given by a participant that the roads leading to such layouts too should be marked for widening as and when the need arose. Some of the roads to such proposed layouts may be less than nine metres, and would have to be expanded so that the approach road is of the same width as the road in a layout.

The setback provisions in the earlier comprehensive development plan, as the current master plan was then known, largely favoured the builders. However, the same provision in the master plan is balanced between the needs of the builders and the urban local body. The provisions of front set back are more stringent to facilitate future widening of roads, he said, adding that the set back for high-rise buildings is more or less scientific.

Acknowledging that the front set back rules and proposed road width will prove to be a source of annoyance for builders, architects and other stake holders, the DC observed that this will become part of their psyche after a couple of years of adhering to it.

On concessions

When his attention was drawn to a proposal to double or widen the road width three times in some cases, DC opined that the property owners in case of residential plots could be given 50 per cent concession, and high rise buildings 25 per cent concession in front set back rules. "The set back provisions incorporated in to the master plan and implemented in building projects is basically to facilitate widening of roads in the future," he said.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/MCC-MUDA-to-survey-major-roads/articleshow/5231197.cms

Great going Mangalore......namma Mangaluru sakath agidhae :cheers:

Krishnamoorthy K
November 14th, 2009, 08:16 PM
MANGALORE: People giving up their land to facilitate development in the city could well receive an attractive transfer of development rights (TDR)
package from the government. TDR refers to a method for protecting land by transferring the rights to develop from one area and giving them to another. The present TDR package in vogue is not attractive for people to part with their land, said district in-charge minister J Krishna Palemar.

Inaugurating a day-long workshop on master plan II organized by CREDAI, Association of Consulting Civil Engineers, and Architects Guild here on Saturday, Palemar, a builder himself, said the city had a TDR package in vogue even when the city's development was governed by the comprehensive development plan, which has since given way to master plan. "However, the same has not been attractive enough to enthuse people," he said.

What is TDR

The city corporation, which facilitates development of basic civic amenities, is not in a position to acquire land to widen the roads. TDR will serve the purpose of both MCC and the property owner. The most common TDR programme allows the landowner to sell the development rights to a developer who then uses them to increase the density of houses on another piece of property at another location, Palemar said.

Taking note of point made by K C Naik, president of Mangalore chapter of CREDAI on formation of single sites, Palemar held all authorities concerned accountable for pushing it through in the master plan without bringing it to his notice. Noting that the authorities had jumped the gun on the matter fearing that it would violate provisions of 'Akrama-Sakrama', he reminded them that the government was yet to take a final call on it.

Stressing on the need for simplicity in laws that make it possible even for the common man to understand it, Palemar agreed with Naik on the need to erect roofs on terraces of buildings, which has been done away in the master plan. He also advised builders to connect leach bits of large high rise buildings to underground drainage network at least if they are not able to set up independent sewage treatment plants.

Ring roads to ease traffic

B Nagaraj Shetty, chairman, Coastal Development Authority said Mangalore, like other cities is moving towards the ring roads with the much taunted Mangala Corniche project. "The project report will be ready by March 2010," he said, adding that this will facilitate movement of traffic along the peripheral roads. This will vastly reduce the pressure on the city's infrastructure, especially the roads within the city and decongest them, he noted.

Mayor M Shankar Bhat who presided over the programme said the city corporation, which does not have any major role in the master plan, however ends up facing flak for problems faced by the common man. Bhat said the civic body will be in a position to address such issues only when the state government implements the 74th amendment of the constitution which allows for greater autonomy to urban local bodies.


Source: TOI (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/TDR-package-not-attractive-enough-Palemar/articleshow/5231182.cms)

hindendigoo illada sakkat vaada vivaada!

Krishnamoorthy K
November 14th, 2009, 08:20 PM
MANGALORE: Deputy commissioner V Ponnuraj has warned legal action, including filing criminal cases against vested interests who are trying to usurp prime revenue land along the coastal part of Dakshina Kannada district. Noting that the district administration is fully aware of these developments, the DC said the administration has already cleared illegally acquired land recently, and the drive would continue against encroachments.

Despite the recent demolition drive, vested interests continue to obtain door numbers through secretaries of gram panchayats, and chief officers of town panchayats. Efforts are on to usurp revenue land, not only in the coastal regulatory zone, but also in other places as well, including at the special economic zone at Mudipu and Konaje with the sole intention of trying to obtain some sort of official compensation or rehabilitation package.

A move to issue door numbers to non-existent houses, and creating new buildings on record has also come to the notice of the district administration. Criminal cases will be registered against those involved in such practices and the punishment will be imprisonment for a minimum of three years, he warned. Revenue and other officials involved in such instances too will face departmental and legal action, the DC noted.


Source: TOI (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/DC-warns-legal-action-against-land-usurpers/articleshow/5231209.cms)

Supposed to grab lands along Mangala Corniche, but they went upto Konaje and Mudipu already.

engineer.akash
November 14th, 2009, 11:46 PM
which place is this??

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/21176871.jpg

engineer.akash
November 14th, 2009, 11:50 PM
copyright panoramio

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8864/24017666.jpg

ajay ramchandran
November 15th, 2009, 01:19 AM
which place is this??

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/21176871.jpg


That is Mangalore's twin towers ...the10 storied Rambhavan complex,Mangalore's first' major' commercial cum office block built in the 80's. In those days this was a real major project. Initially only the left tower was built but I think the one facing towards Hampankatta (rt tower) was built in late 90's after I left Mangalore.This building is at Navabharath circle next to Inland Ornate. Infact Ranmbhavan was built on a property which used to be owned my friends family.

avi mangalore
November 15th, 2009, 07:28 AM
This mall is huge...8 lakh square feet is no joke.

Is there SPAR in India? It is supposed to be the world largest food retailer although I do not visit SPAR here. This is a European (Netherlands). Most SPAR shops here in the UK are small.City centre I am told is fully booked.I am told there is parking at 5 levels . is it true.

there is a spar in bangalore, regarding parking i saw 4 levels, there may be 5.

regarding layouts gandhinagar is the only palnned layout in mangalore and getting a house there is like finding a needle in a haystack.

avi mangalore
November 15th, 2009, 07:34 AM
copyright panoramio

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8864/24017666.jpg

this photo is taken from leela mansion apatments opp tma pai hall, the building between empire and tma pai hall is a newly constructed apartment named annaya by apoorva constructions.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 15th, 2009, 07:35 AM
Passport Seva Kendra is supposed to be in Ram Bhavan complex. Ram Bhavan houses many airlines and tourist companies. The towers were supposed to have uniform design and I think a few more floors. Towers still look incomplete to me.

The upgrading of the Mangalore airport would be completed in a few months - Union Minister of State for Civil Aviation Praful Patel - The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/15/stories/2009111557310100.htm)
Earlier Union Law Minister Veerappa Moily had told that he would request Prime Minister to inagurate airport new terminal anywhere after November 15.

My suggestion for Metro or Monorail is to have tracks along ring roads and parallel to national highways as these parts of city are going to have highest traffic and population density.

engineer.akash
November 15th, 2009, 10:16 AM
Krishnamoorthy Mangalore-udupi and karwar aare very close by.And GOK wants to setup airports at Udupi and Karwar.Is it a good decision to have 3 airports in about 250 km length??

Karwar airport will materialize no matter what as it is being built to serve the navy.Right now Belgaum airport is being used as a naval base.
Udupi airport needs reconsideration??

engineer.akash
November 15th, 2009, 10:20 AM
thanx a lot Ajay.

I wish Mangalore had more heritage structures which it could boast of as landmarks apart from the high rises it is getting...

The town hall and st Aloysius college are the two heritage structures I am aware of.

Any other ???

ajay ramchandran
November 15th, 2009, 10:35 AM
thanx a lot Ajay.

I wish Mangalore had more heritage structures which it could boast of as landmarks apart from the high rises it is getting...

The town hall and st Aloysius college are the two heritage structures I am aware of.

Any other ???

University college?

Well if you count temples then there are several.Many of the old colonial houses gave was to high rises..sadly

ajay ramchandran
November 15th, 2009, 10:41 AM
Passport Seva Kendra is supposed to be in Ram Bhavan complex. Ram Bhavan houses many airlines and tourist companies. The towers were supposed to have uniform design and I think a few more floors. Towers still look incomplete to me.

The upgrading of the Mangalore airport would be completed in a few months - Union Minister of State for Civil Aviation Praful Patel - The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/15/stories/2009111557310100.htm)
Earlier Union Law Minister Veerappa Moily had told that he would request Prime Minister to inagurate airport new terminal anywhere after November 15.

My suggestion for Metro or Monorail is to have tracks along ring roads and parallel to national highways as these parts of city are going to have highest traffic and population density.


Moorthy even I feel it is incomplete but actually not because I remember the initial plan which was put up.The building starts from a lower level . So the height is not appreciated. In my MBBS days this building and tYenepoya hospital were the high rises we could see from the 5'th floor classroom. of our old KMC building. That was in 82-85 period.Surprisngly the ten storied Yenepoya hospital was initially built for Karnataka Hotels and meant to be bought by Taj group. Then something happened and the building was left incomplete and idle for more than 15 years. Now I am told it has been converted to Yenepoya Hospital ..(next to FotoFlash). The view of high rises like PVS,Rambhavan used to be spectacular from near Mangala stadium.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 15th, 2009, 11:34 AM
Krishnamoorthy Mangalore-udupi and karwar aare very close by.And GOK wants to setup airports at Udupi and Karwar.Is it a good decision to have 3 airports in about 250 km length??

Karwar airport will materialize no matter what as it is being built to serve the navy.Right now Belgaum airport is being used as a naval base.
Udupi airport needs reconsideration??

Akash, as I have mentioned already, distance between proposed site for Udupi Airport to Mangalore Airport is same as distance between Goa Airport and Karwar Airport. Moreover there is a proposal for Gokarna Airport also. Moreover Belgaum, Hubballi are also close to these airports.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=44406862&postcount=49

I do not think a domestic airport at Udupi will impact Mangalore International Airport business.

Further expections from Mangalore Airport are

1. Business Park, Convention Center, etc near airport.
2. Facilities at cargo terminal - Cold storage?, etc
3. Railway terminal at Kenjar with a good bus stop
4. More airlines and flights to gulf countries
5. Flights to eastern countries like Singapore, Malaysia, etc. And also Mangaloreans staying in commonwealth countries may wish air connectivity with Mangalore directly.

Ajay, have I missed any point?

Krishnamoorthy K
November 15th, 2009, 11:44 AM
Mumbai: Dutch steel major Central Industry Group's wholly owned subsidiary, CS India Steel has bagged orders worth Rs175 crore from Tebma and Bharati Shipyards, a top official said.

"We have bagged orders from leading Shipyards - Tebma and Bharati. The company's total order book stands at Rs175 crore," CS India Steel's managing director, Alfred Tuinman told PTI.

CIG is a global leader in manufacturing preprocessed ship kits and has a state-of-the-art manufacturing unit at Udupi and Mangalore, which was commissioned in April last.

"The establishment of this new unit is unique for the maritime industry in India as CIG is the only player in the country to pre-process steel plates for ship kits and construction industry," he said.

CS India has entered into a contract with Tebma Shipyards for the supply of pre-processed steel products, like cold formed plates, he said.

Established in 1973, CIG has factories in northern Europe as well as ventures in Shanghai and St Petersburg.

Besides shipbuilding, CIG also delivers steel and aluminium for high profile architectural projects, he said.

These include Millennium Towers and Cricket Media Center in London, the Sidra Trees flyover in Doha, the flyover across the new Formula 1 circuit in Abu Dhabi, and the Memorial Guggenheimim museum in New York.


Source: DNA (http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_cs-india-bags-rs175-crore-order-from-two-shipyards_1311827)

First time hearing about the company named CS India.

engineer.akash
November 15th, 2009, 11:55 AM
^^ Krishnamoorthy Gokarna is nothing but Karwar???

By 2011 Karnataka will have 14 airports and some 6 airstrips,but how about the flights,any guesses,who will operate them??

Or probably the airports would act as plus point for bringing in investments luring the industries??

Once suvarana vidhan soudha opens in belgaum you will see immense activity in belgaum airport.

One more thing is a carrier operating flights say from bangalore to mumbai can go via only Belgaum or Hubli.it would be interesting to see which city will take away the prize as of now there is a KF flight from bangalore to mumbai via hubli. :)

any comments???

ajay ramchandran
November 15th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Akash, as I have mentioned already, distance between proposed site for Udupi Airport to Mangalore Airport is same as distance between Goa Airport and Karwar Airport. Moreover there is a proposal for Gokarna Airport also. Moreover Belgaum, Hubballi are also close to these airports.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=44406862&postcount=49

I do not think a domestic airport at Udupi will impact Mangalore International Airport business.

Further expections from Mangalore Airport are

1. Business Park, Convention Center, etc near airport.
2. Facilities at cargo terminal - Cold storage?, etc
3. Railway terminal at Kenjar with a good bus stop
4. More airlines and flights to gulf countries
5. Flights to eastern countries like Singapore, Malaysia, etc. And also Mangaloreans staying in commonwealth countries may wish air connectivity with Mangalore directly.

Ajay, have I missed any point?


Moorthy ..you are spot on! I would like something like a sky bus service from the new terminal to Kenjar. About 7 years ago I sent letters to MCCand KCCI regarding the importance of haoing a railway station next to an airport..something not seen in India but generally seen in all developed economies of the world. I got the inspiration after seeing the Birmingham Airport and the Birmingham international station. From the first floor of the station one can directly take a transport to the Aiport which is five minutes or less than that, that runs on elevated rails. It is like a sky bus.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 15th, 2009, 01:51 PM
Source: DNA (http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_cs-india-bags-rs175-crore-order-from-two-shipyards_1311827)

First time hearing about the company named CS India.

It is not CS India Steel, but CS India Staal
http://www.vuykgron.nl/templates/layout_main.cfm?intpk=1&intfk=4&lang=en

CS India Staal Pvt. Ltd.
4/95 Hangarkatta
Balekudru Udupi Taluk 576 218
India

They may be having another unit in Taneerbhavi near Bharathi Shipyard.

Akash, Aerospace in Belgaum, shipbuilding in Mangalore, ...

engineer.akash
November 15th, 2009, 03:43 PM
It is not CS India Steel, but CS India Staal
http://www.vuykgron.nl/templates/layout_main.cfm?intpk=1&intfk=4&lang=en

CS India Staal Pvt. Ltd.
4/95 Hangarkatta
Balekudru Udupi Taluk 576 218
India

They may be having another unit in Taneerbhavi near Bharathi Shipyard.

Akash, Aerospace in Belgaum, shipbuilding in Mangalore, ...

^^

Here is a list of major business activities in various cities of karnataka

Belgaum=foundry,forging,valves,pumps,manganese/aluminium(INDAL),aerospace,agro sugar industries
Mangalore= Ship building,Banks,Health care,Tourism,IT
Hubli=Auto(TELCON,TATA,Volvo),pharma,assembly,logistics,heavy machinery
Bellary=Steel,Iron ore,other mining activities
Hutti=Gold fields
Gulbarga=Cement
Shimoga=tourism,areca nuts,cash crops(tobacco),food sez's
Mysore=electronics/IT,auto,agro,tourism,coffee,silk,sandal

I might have missed out other activities.............:cheers:

Krishnamoorthy K
November 15th, 2009, 06:48 PM
thanx a lot Ajay.

I wish Mangalore had more heritage structures which it could boast of as landmarks apart from the high rises it is getting...

The town hall and st Aloysius college are the two heritage structures I am aware of.

Any other ???

University college?

Well if you count temples then there are several.Many of the old colonial houses gave was to high rises..sadly

Here is a list:

1. Town Hall (we wanted a bigger hall? could have gone with clock tower?).
2. Saint Aloysius College with church and museum
3. University College
4. Sultan Battery
5. Temples & Basadis - Mangala Devi, Kadri (Heritage Park is coming up?), etc.
6. Churches - Roasario, etc
7. Mosques - Zeenat Baksh (http://www.daijiworld.com/chan/exclusive_arch.asp?ex_id=116), etc
8. Tile Factories - Oldest or biggest ones to be preserved.
9. Cashewnut factories? Beedi factory (I don't like this one)?, etc
10. Lighthouses - Lighthouse hill, Surathkal, ...
11. Banks' Registered offices - Canara bank, ?
12. Shreemati Bai Memorial Museum
13. Theosophical Society Building (do not know whether any other society buildings are still there)
14. Hospitals - may be parts of wenlock, lady goschen, father muller
15. Guttuda Illu - Kodialabail
16. Some of old houses in Falnir area and a few more houses with tiles
17. whether bunder police station is old enough to be preserved?
18. A few movie theatres?
.... <<to be continued>>

Other things to be preserved in museum are house utesils, other old home-industrial items, agricultural items, etc. Initiative is already there in places like Pilikula Nisargadhama Museum. We can have a small "farmers' village" for permanent exhibition with grass huts and all agricultural stuff like mudi, kuppe, etc. I would also like to have a "fishermen's village" may be in Taneerbhavi with a small dock and all types of old boats and different types of obsolete fish catching nets. There are lot of other professionals and things like handloom, etc to be preserved.

Our culture is our biggest heritage - festivals (Tulunadu has its own unique festivals - balipadyami, ati, etc), rituals (bootharadhane, nagamandala, etc), folk theatre yakshagana, folk games like kambla, folklores like paddana, dress, jewelleries etc. There is also additional folk culture of Konkani, Beary and other language speaking people.

Our languages are our heritages - Tulu, Konkani, Beary, Havyaka, Koraga, etc. Our place names are our heritages - for example, Whether Falnir means Palla Neeru? What is Kadri? Where is Padavinangadi?

There are also some neolithic sites with neolithic tombs in Dakshina Kannada district.
http://tulu-research.blogspot.com/2008/01/68-pandavarakallua-burial-structure.html

We need good libraries to preserve books which are written on our culture. Fortunately we had and have good researchers working on these domains.

Tulunadu was ruled by Alupa kings for a long time, then Keladi, Mysore and British. But I am not aware of any palace of Alupa or other chieftains. The Kerala queen came to Mangalapuram (Mangala means fort in Sanskrit, also there is one Kotepura in Ullal) and her name was changed to Mangala Devi subsequently. And Mangalapuram became Mangaluru during British rules? (Tulu traditional name is Kudla). Probably Mangalore forts were destroyed by portugese. There is no trace of any of forts now except for Sultan Battery of Tippu Sultan era. Some structure shown in the old french map below may be of forts.
http://www.gisdevelopment.net/events/images/mangalore.jpg

Of course our rivers, lakes, seashores, hills, valleys with unique species of tress, plants, animals, birds, marinelife are all our heritages gifted by nature to us to be preserved.

engineer.akash
November 15th, 2009, 06:51 PM
'Maintenance to be the focus in future projects'
TNN 15 November 2009, 09:47pm IST

MANGALORE: The maintenance aspect of all future projects to be executed by Karnataka Urban Infrastructure Development and Finance Corporation
(KUIDFC) will be incorporated at the planning stage itself. This, according to Arvind Shrivastava, managing director of KUIDFC is to avoid focus of projects taken up by the corporation on creation of assets alone, the case so far, and also concentrate on maintaining the assets created therein.

Arvind, who addressed a special meeting of Mangalore City Corporation recently on Karnataka Urban Development and Coastal Environmental Management Project (KUDCEMP), implemented by KUIDFC, observed that investment was the prime focus of this decade-old project. As per new planning strategies being adopted by the government, maintenance will be key area in all-future detailed project reports (DPR) to be drawn up.

Observing that as per new principles adopted in Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission, maintenance of assets created will receive due importance, Arvind said this aspect has been taken care of in the DPRs of 25 projects taken up in as many cities in North Karnataka. In KUDCEMP implemented in 10 coastal towns including Mangalore, operation and maintenance of assets created was limited to the training, he noted.

A study taken up by KUIDFC to deal with maintenance aspects of assets in these 10 towns, including exploring possibilities of providing them with '24x7' water supply has indicated potential to start round-the-clock water supply in five towns. These include Mangalore, Puttur, Ullal, Udupi, and Kundapur, and the same facility could be introduced in other five towns under KUDCEMP in the second phase, Arvind noted.

24x7 WATER SUPPLY

A pilot project of '24x7' water supply tried out by KUIDFC in select wards in Hubli-Dharwad, Belgaum and Gulbarga City Corporations since January 2008 has yielded very good results. Nearly 1.25-lakh people in these select wards are getting round-the-clock water supply, he said adding that a decision on extending this facility to the remaining wards in these three cities through a separate project is under consideration.

KUIDFC will help put in place a structured operation and maintenance format for towns wanting to opt for such a system. It will also help the urban local bodies in these towns draw up a contract document that has in place a performance based payment system. "It will however be the initiative of the civic bodies concerned to execute the contracts once such a system of round the clock water supply has been ushered in," Arvind added.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/Maintenance-to-be-the-focus-in-future-projects/articleshow/5233260.cms

engineer.akash
November 15th, 2009, 07:16 PM
^^ Krishnamoorthy thanx for the detailed reply lets have a good discussion on that................:)

reyy67
November 15th, 2009, 07:56 PM
The building closer to camera & adjacent to Poonja international is stuck up like that for a long time. Atleast they can demolish front portion to widen the footpath.

There are many buildings like this. One at the junction of Attavara road near railway station junction is also lying idle. There are many more.

^^ those lodges are oldest one of Mangalore still looking so elegant.

hey thats poonja hotel one first tallest buildings in mangalore..owned by mr prabhakar poonja i guess..is it his hotel if i have not mistaken??thank you

Krishnamoorthy K
November 15th, 2009, 09:10 PM
^^ reyy67, thanks for joining us.

I was talking about the building adjacent to Pooja International.

ajay ramchandran
November 15th, 2009, 09:58 PM
^^

Here is a list of major business activities in various cities of karnataka

Belgaum=foundry,forging,valves,pumps,manganese/aluminium(INDAL),aerospace,agro sugar industries
Mangalore= Ship building,Banks,Health care,Tourism,IT
Hubli=Auto(TELCON,TATA,Volvo),pharma,assembly,logistics,heavy machinery
Bellary=Steel,Iron ore,other mining activities
Hutti=Gold fields
Gulbarga=Cement
Shimoga=tourism,areca nuts,cash crops(tobacco),food sez's
Mysore=electronics/IT,auto,agro,tourism,coffee,silk,sandal

I might have missed out other activities.............:cheers:


Mangalore most important :Chemical industries and Petroleum ,ELF,RUCHI,BASF,MRPL,MCF ,HP ETC have a presence.

ajay ramchandran
November 16th, 2009, 09:45 AM
http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=155602


I thought Plama had already launched theirs. Anyway the apartments have all being sold out. So Where is the recession in Mangalore?

Krishnamoorthy K
November 16th, 2009, 12:26 PM
Shoppers Stop to invest Rs 250 cr to open 15 stores in 3 years (http://beta.thehindu.com/business/companies/article49596.ece)

The company, which currently has around 28 stores spread across 12 cities is now looking to open stores in five smaller cities like Amritsar, Mangalore and Vijaywada.

It is going to have a separate building or going to open in one of the malls?

Krishnamoorthy K
November 17th, 2009, 09:00 AM
http://www.udayavani.com/showstory.asp?news=0&contentid=716221&lang=2
Udyavani e-papaer page 12

Good article. Hope they will translate it to english later.

They have not covered Baikampady flyover?

Krishnamoorthy K
November 17th, 2009, 09:22 AM
http://i35.tinypic.com/296kz8x.jpg

Udayavani e-paper page 9.

It talks about improving Ullal, Taneerbhavi, Panambur beaches.

reyy67
November 17th, 2009, 04:58 PM
[QUOTE=Krishnamoorthy K;46254251]^^ reyy67, thanks for joining us.

I was talking about the building adjacent to Pooja International.

thank you mr.krishnamoorthy..i know u wer talking abt the adjacent building..plz let me know if u need any pics on developmental works in n around mangalore..i can get them..

Krishnamoorthy K
November 17th, 2009, 05:06 PM
^^ Definitely reyy67. We need pictures of roads (airport road near Kavoor, Lalbagh road, Kuloor-Kavoor road, etc), NH-48 works, buildings under construction (Skyline on blueberry hills, Ivory Towers, ...), etc.

There is a separate thread on cityscapes.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 17th, 2009, 06:32 PM
Plama Icon nearing completion
http://www.plamadevelopers.com/images/Plama_icon_Work_progress_2.jpg

Plama Oceanic U/C
http://www.plamadevelopers.com/images/Plama_Oceanic_Working_prog_2.JPG

Source: Plama (http://www.plamadevelopers.com/icon_WorkProgress.html), Plama (http://www.plamadevelopers.com/images/Plama_Oceanic_Working_prog_2.JPG)

engineer.akash
November 17th, 2009, 08:30 PM
the first building looks good...must be damn costly?? where is it located in mangalore???

ajay ramchandran
November 18th, 2009, 12:33 AM
the first building looks good...must be damn costly?? where is it located in mangalore???

At Bikarnekatte which is about 5KM or more from city centre...to the east of the highway.

avi mangalore
November 18th, 2009, 06:27 AM
At Bikarnekatte which is about 5KM or more from city centre...to the east of the highway.

plama icon as i have been told is fully booked except for the penthouse, front of plama icon they have dug a huge pit for laying the foundation of plama mall

Krishnamoorthy K
November 18th, 2009, 06:42 AM
At Mangalore, the company has soft launched a residential project ‘Brigade Sparkle’ which will offer 230 units priced between Rs 18 lakh and Rs 25 lakh.

The Brigade group, with interests in residential, commercial property as well as hospitality is developing projects in these sectors and is expecting to get approvals for nearly 12-15 projects by March 2010. This includes projects in Hyderabad, retail property and business hotel in Chennai and SEZs in Mangalore and Kochi. It is developing close to 35 million sq feet presently and is looking to develop 12 million sq feet in the coming months.


Source: BS (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/brigade-plans-budget-housing/376742/)

Marine Park at Mangalore @cost of Rs. 200 crores - Udayavani e-paper page 14.

smartsearch
November 18th, 2009, 11:15 AM
can you give some more details about the brigade residencial project.( location etc.)

smartsearch
November 18th, 2009, 11:25 AM
Krishna moorthy , Thanks a lot for kind of information that you are giving. Do you any specific information about the 65 roads to be widened according to new CDP(list of roads to be widened)

Krishnamoorthy K
November 18th, 2009, 12:10 PM
^^ Brigade SEZ will be in Ganjimutt. But no idea on 'Brigade Sparkle'. Brigade Group website does not have any detail on this project.

I have not come across any news reports detailing all 65 roads. I do not know whether copy of Master Plan is available for public. I don't think they have updated their website with the details. http://www.mangalorecity.gov.in/

engineer.akash
November 18th, 2009, 07:48 PM
Mangalore roads to be ready by Dec 10

TNN 18 November 2009, 09:42pm IST



MANGALORE: Eleven major roads leading to Ujire in Belthangady taluk will be developed at a cost of Rs 17 crore in time for the World Tulu
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Convention that starts from December 10.

The Mangalore district Public Works Department has submitted a proposal to the state government to release Rs 20 crore for these works, superintending engineer of the circle B S Balakrishna told reporters here on Wednesday.

"The rain lashing the district has set back our plans in this regard", he said, adding that development works planned include making around 97-kms of road motorable, and constructing 2.5 ft deep drains. Observing that lack of drains is a major cause for deterioration of roads, he said, instructions have been given to authorities to uproot utilities laid in violation of norms if they hampered construction of drains.

Assistant engineers from Udupi and Kodagu will be summoned on deputation for a 20-day period to oversee the road development works, Balakrishna said, adding that a whole lot of emphasis will be given to ensure quality of works undertaken. These engineers will be posted at hot mix plants of the contractors, as well as on site, to ensure that quality issues are addressed at each stage and work pressure of divisional engineers is reduced.

Noting that there are 4,200 km of state highways and major district roads under Mangalore jurisdiction, he said, most of these roads have not been constructed as per norms in the initial stages. "The government has released Rs 13.1 crore for filling pot holes on these roads, and funds will be utilized optimally to ensure that these roads are made motorable as per the norms laid down in Indian Road Congress," he said.

QC LABORATORIES

The process of setting up 14 quality control labs in 14 taluks in Mangalore PWD circle will be completed by December 5, and these labs in Sullia, Belthangady and Bantwal made operational in next four days. Quality control registers will be maintained in each of these labs and the officials concerned will have to fill out daily reports on quality controls carried out by the former corner stone of departmental analysis.

A proposal has also been sent to the state government to set up a master quality control laboratory in Mangalore at a cost of Rs 1.5 crore, Balakrishna said, adding that these labs will to a large extent check complaints of inferior quality of road works executed by the contractors. In addition to this, the departmental officials too have been instructed to check for quality during their routine tour, he said. Gopal Naik, executive engineer was present.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/-Mangalore-roads-to-be-ready-by-Dec-10/articleshow/5240718.cms

engineer.akash
November 18th, 2009, 08:00 PM
PWD building to get a makeover

TNN 18 November 2009, 09:41pm IST

MANGALORE: PWD building on Nehru Maidan Road, which houses major government offices here will get the much-needed facelift soon. B S Balakrishna,
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superintending engineer, PWD, Mangalore Circle who convened a meeting of heads of departments here on Wednesday while explaining rules governing maintenance of government buildings, advised them to take care of daily maintenance aspects or get the same outsourced.

Balakrishna, who briefed reporters on the outcome of the meeting, said as per rules laid down in Karnataka PWD Accounts Code and Karnataka Finance Code, responsibility of maintenance vests with the departments concerned -- agriculture, health, information, and forest -- in this case. The general lack of maintenance in these offices housed in the south wing of the building had drawn the ire of the district in-charge minister on Monday.

Referring to an initiative taken by joint director, department of agriculture, who got the office refurbished at a cost of Rs 1.5 lakh with the help of funds from ZP last year, Balakrishna said there are 300-odd buildings under his jurisdiction. Maintenance grant given for them is insufficient. Government departments can get their offices refurbished either through us or other agencies after obtaining our technical advise, he added.

Referring to steps taken to clean up the PWD building, Balakrishna said, PWD has taken up the work of one time clearance of all accumulated debris on the premises. Interlock tiles will be laid for the entire building premises, storm-water drains will be widened in front of the office and trees pruned, at a cost of Rs 17 lakh. The 6,130-sq mt building will get a fresh coat of paint, and the public utility areas refurbished at a cost of Rs 10 lakh.

In case, the departments concerned fail to collectively deposit Rs 10 lakh, a proposal will be sent to the government for the same. Likewise, a proposal for Rs 27 lakh to repair the damaged windows, and rusted and protruding iron pieces on both the north and south wings of the building will also be sent to the government, he said, adding that, "I have maintained my house well, and now it is up to the others to follow suit."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/-PWD-building-to-get-a-makeover-/articleshow/5240717.cms

Krishnamoorthy K
November 19th, 2009, 05:32 AM
* 25 acres of land has been sought for the purpose

MANGALORE: Director of the Karnataka State Cricket Academy Syed Kirmani said here on Wednesday that they were looking for 25 acres of land in Mangalore to build a cricket stadium of international standards.

The academy functions under the Karnataka State Cricket Association.

He told presspersons that the academy was planning to set up its office in the stadium and impart cricket coaching.

Mr. Kirmani said that he met Deputy Commissioner V. Ponnuraj on Wednesday and placed the demand for the land.

He said that the academy, set up five years ago, had remained non-functional so far. The academy was revived a month ago and it would take up activities aimed at promoting cricket, mainly coaching, in the six zones of the association.

Asked why the academy had remained non-functional all these years, he said: “I don’t know the reasons for it.”

The former India wicket-keeper said that under-14 cricket coaching camp had begun simultaneously in the six zones of the association, including Mangalore, on Tuesday. Coaching camps would be held for players of other age groups from the next season. The academy would train promising cricketers from each zone at an advanced camp to be held in Bangalore soon, Mr. Kirmani said.

Karthik Jeswanth, one of the chief coaches of the academy, said that the academy had been revived for ensuring uniformity in cricket coaching in the State. It would also organise training programmes for coaches, with assistance from the National Cricket Academy and prominent cricketers in Bangalore, he said.

Manohar Amin, convener of the Mangalore zone of the association, said that selection camps for under-14 players were held at Madikeri, Udupi and Kundapur this year.


Source: The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/19/stories/2009111959370300.htm)

What about Ganjimutt?

Krishnamoorthy K
November 19th, 2009, 05:38 AM
MANGALORE: The Mangalore Circle of the Public Works Department (PWD) will fill potholes on all major roads in the districts of Dakshina Kannada, Udupi and Kodagu at a cost of Rs. 13.1 crore.

Superintending Engineer of the circle B.S. Balakrishna told presspersons here on Wednesday that the work would be completed by January 15. Besides filling potholes, storm-water drains along the roads would be improved, he added. A sum of Rs. 75,000 to Rs. 1 lakh was needed for maintenance of every km of road. Ideally, the network of 4,200 km of roads in the PWD circle needed about Rs. 40 crore for this purpose. However, the circle could get only Rs. 13.1 crore, he said.

Mr. Balakrishna agreed that there were lapses in adhering to the Indian Road Congress specifications as far as pothole filling work was concerned.

“We are trying to ensure that the specifications are adhered to.”

Quality monitoring would become easier for the authorities of the Mangalore Circle of the PWD as laboratories would be set up in each of the 14 taluk headquarters in the three districts by December 5. A proposal had been submitted to the State Government on setting up a master laboratory in Mangalore at a cost of Rs. 1.5 crore. Quality of aggregates and bitumen mix and that of sand and mud used for road repairs and construction could be tested in the laboratories. Each laboratory was being set up at a cost of Rs. 4 lakh, he said.

Mr. Balakrishna said the Mangalore Circle had got a grant of Rs. 17 crore for repairing roads leading to Ujire, where the World Tulu Conference will be held from December 10. The department had started improving the roads but rains had hampered the work, he said, and added that the work would be completed as scheduled.

The roads that are being improved are: Kadur-Kanhangad Road (at a cost of Rs. 6 crore); Uppinangady-Guruvayanakere (Rs. 3 crore); Periyashanthi-Dharmasthala (Rs. 2 crore); Guruvayanakere-Naravi (Rs. 1.3 crore); Mani-Ullal Road (Rs. 1.2 crore); Belthangady-Moodbidri-Mulky Road (Rs. 2 crore); Mangalore-Atradi Road (Rs. 90 lakh); and Surathkal-Kabaka Road (Rs. 60 lakh).


Source: The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/19/stories/2009111960110300.htm)

ajay ramchandran
November 19th, 2009, 09:41 AM
Source: The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/19/stories/2009111959370300.htm)

What about Ganjimutt?


Still hunting for land?This has been going on for the past 10 years.When they can get 3000 acres for SEZ or 1000 acres for ITSEZ why are they struggling to get 25 acres?

engineer.akash
November 19th, 2009, 12:51 PM
Mangalore: No more corruption in MCC - New Master Plan hits the last nail


By Team Mangalorean - Mangalore

MANGALORE, November 19, 2009: People in Mangalore are in for some comforting times, those who wish to build their dream houses can now do so without greasing the palms of officials of the Mangalore City Corporation. Thanks to the new master plan for Mangalore development -- the citizens are now much relieved. The new master plan unveiled by the Mangalore Urban Development Authority (MUDA) leaves least chances for corruption.

The Master plan has clauses that are very stringent in paper work. The people who want to build their houses will have to be meticulous in the collection of papers, when they submit them for clearance, the officials will have to not only scrutinize them carefully but also to guide them to submit the right papers. Though the Master Plan does not give special powers to the officials it unleashes a new work culture that demands from the officials high degree of efficiency which makes the work easier but highly proficient in disposal of each case.

The new master plan which has been ratified by the ministry of Urban Development corroborates the various government acts and regulations that will help the people in seeking services without red tapeism and corruption. As per government order dated September 10, 2009, ratifying the master plan, buildings exceeding 18-metres in height will be considered high-rise buildings. The minimum width of roads leading to such buildings will be nine metre, with a provision to extend it to 12 metre or more if the circumstances so warrant. Permission will be accorded only to such high-rise buildings that meet this criterion. In this segment of the Master Plan the MCC used to give maximum leverage for corruption.

http://mangalorean.com/images/newstemp23/20091118bldg1.jpg

http://mangalorean.com/images/newstemp23/20091015muda3.jpg

There are buildings in Mangalore that stand 11 floors tall within a plot of 15 cents, there are no leeway for the fire brigade engines to move around the building nor the common utility spaces are well defined. The Master Plan has removed all ambiguities in this section making it very transparent for both the MCC officials as well as those who seek permission to build high rise buildings.

The floor area ratio (FAR) including the premium FAR has been fixed at a maximum of 3.25 pre cent and the tables pertaining to zoning regulations will be under modification on case to case basis. The front setback for high rise buildings will now be a minimum of five metre, and set back on the remaining three sides of a building should be maintained at six meters, this section also removes so many ambiguities in the act. The Zoning regulations have been now merged into each building permission format which makes it compulsory for the builder to adhere the zoning regulations, there is no way of circumventing the zoning regulations.

Most of the buildings in Mangalore have no car parking facility, as a result all the cars that visit buildings will have to be parked on the streets. The designated space for car parking were turned into shopping area which was a grave violations even in the older versions of plans (they used to be called Comprehensive Devleopment Plan).

The new master plan however defines that a car-parking unit should be a minimum of 5 metre by 2.5 metre. Norms prescribed by the fire and emergency services department for high rise buildings as mentioned in the zoning regulations based on the height, width of the buildings, road width will have to be followed scrupulously as prescribed by the Fire department which will be one of the documents to be made available by the builders while claiming FAR rates for the car parking.

Many builders have welcomed the new plan and the implications of the new master plan has just started sinking into the psyche of the builders and many of the unorganized sector builders have started thinking in line of revamping their set up to live up to the new master plan or even quit the industry in case they cannot adopt to the changed situation.

source: http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=156124

engineer.akash
November 19th, 2009, 12:52 PM
No compromise on good roads-official

MANGALORE, November 18, 2009: The Public Works Department will get tough on the encroachers of road utilities, the department will soon issue orders to show zero tolerance towards encroachments that will hinder the fullest utilization of roads for the purpose it was meant for.

Addressing a press conference here today Superintending Engineer of the PWD B.S. Balakrishna said heavy rains in the district was the main culprit for bad roads in the district. He said he had already instructed the officials to look into the encroachments seriously and remove all of them which hinder construction of drains by the side of the roads. If there are no drains running by the side of the roads, there is not much hope for giving the people good roads.

He said plans include to making 97-kms of road motorable on Mangalore-Belthangady stretch that includes state highways and Major District Roads and construction of drains to depth of 2.5 ft alongside these roads.

The PWD will take up 11 major roads leading to Ujire in Belthangady at a cost of Rs 17 crore. The roads will be completed in time for the World Tulu Convention which will open on December 10. The PWD has requested the government to release Rs. 20 crore for these works. These roads which are being taken up for improvements are Kadur-Kanhangad Road (at a cost of Rs. 6 crore); Uppinangady-Guruvayanakere (Rs. 3 crore); Periyashanthi-Dharmasthala (Rs. 2 crore); Guruvayanakere-Naravi (Rs. 1.3 crore); Mani-Ullal Road (Rs. 1.2 crore); Belthangady-Moodbidri-Mulky Road (Rs. 2 crore); Mangalore-Atradi Road (Rs. 90 lakh); and Surathkal-Kabaka Road (Rs. 60 lakh).

Mr. Balakrishna said he was also putting Assistant Engineers from Udupi and Kodagu districts to supervise the works which will perhaps go upto 20 days. The work will be taken up on a war footing he added. The engineers on deputation will be posted at hot mix plants of the contractors. The engineers will oversee the quality and speed of construction.

Mr. Balakrishna said all the 4,200 kms of state highways and major district roads under the Mangalore circle were not constructed as per the standards laid down in the PWD manual which has to be corrected sooner.

The PWD will also set up 14 quality control laboratories in all the 14 taluks in the Mangalore division of PWD. In Dakshina Kannada district in Sullia, Bantwal and Belthangady taluks these laboratories will be functional by the end of this week.

He said, in addition the quality control registers will be kept in each centre where the officer in charge will record quality check measures in regular intervals.

The PWD has also submitted a report to the state government to set up a master quality control laboratory in Mangalore at a cost of Rs 1.5 crore, these labs will to a large extent check the quality of aggregates and bitumen mix, and that of sand and mud used for road repairs and construction. This will help the department to check complaints of inferior quality of road works executed by the contractors, he said.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 19th, 2009, 06:52 PM
Flyover at Surathkal towards Mangalore at the middle
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Flyover at Surathkal towards Mangalore
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Flyover at Surathkal towards Mangalore
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Flyover at Kottara Cross between City Road and NH 17
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Flyover at Kottara Cross between City Road and NH 17
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4 Lane flyover at Kuntikan Junction (Work completed - traffic allowed
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Road widening NH 17 between Nantoor circle to KPT Junction
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KPT Junction towards city
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Flyover at Kaikamba Junction towards Padil (Bypass road)
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Flyover at Kaikamba Junction towards Nantoor circle(Bypass road)
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Flyover at Kaikamba Junction towards Nantoor Circle (Bypass Road)
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Railway over bridge at B C Road (No work tackled)
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXWkwMAEI/AAAAAAAAADk/GB_eol3-WRs/s640/DSCN9337.jpg

Road widening at Kannur in front masque
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Road Widening at Kannur in front of Masque
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Road Widening at Kannur towards B C Road
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Road Widening at Kannur towards Mangalore
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrYLnbumII/AAAAAAAAAEk/qI47sWbPkuU/s640/DSCN9322.jpg

Road widening at B C Road
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXbN8RmnI/AAAAAAAAADs/L1eyfysB6jI/s640/DSCN9335.jpg

Nose cutting work at B C Road
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrX_fWADSI/AAAAAAAAAEU/3HnivzrN-wQ/s640/DSCN9326.jpg

Tumbe High embankment widening towards B C Road
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrX7BMAlCI/AAAAAAAAAEM/G3Q6IYHG0eo/s640/DSCN9327.jpg

Tume embankment bridge widening 2nd from B C Road
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXfp2nx3I/AAAAAAAAADw/uuQE3006K34/s640/DSCN9334.jpg

Tume embankment bridge widening 1st from B C Road
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXi8CCZ8I/AAAAAAAAAD0/-6uSTf6c_nA/s640/DSCN9333.jpg

Flyover at B C Road towards Mangalore
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXlxf6WjI/AAAAAAAAAD4/IA7u3zXYABQ/s640/DSCN9332.jpg

Flyover Ramp work at B C Road
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXo7v8vZI/AAAAAAAAAD8/vPtXHTw3O98/s640/DSCN9331.jpg

Courtesy: gsvardhaman (http://picasaweb.google.com/gsvardhaman/HighwayConnectivityProject#), 10 Nov 2009

Thanks Akash for discovery.

sudheeshnairs
November 19th, 2009, 06:57 PM
But no idea on 'Brigade Sparkle'. Brigade Group website does not have any detail on this project.


It seems to a little mistake from the part of the journalist. Brigade Sparkle is in Mysore, not in Mangalore.

In Mangalore some highrise is in planning stages.

ajay ramchandran
November 20th, 2009, 12:30 AM
http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/20/stories/2009112058610300.htm

MCC likely to take decision on sewerage by month-end



Staff Correspondent

Sewer lines from buildings have to be connected to underground network------

The project is coming up under ADB loan

Four sewage treatment plants being set up

Photo: R. Eswarraj

DEVELOPMENT: Work on underground drainage under way at Kodical in Mangalore

MANGALORE: The council of the Mangalore City Corporation (MCC) is likely to take a decision in its meeting to be held by this month-end on connecting sewer lines from houses and other buildings to the newly laid underground sewerage network.

This matter will be discussed in the meeting scheduled for November 30, Mayor M. Shankar Bhat told The Hindu.

The Karnataka Urban Infrastructure Development and Finance Corporation (KUIDFC) has completed the underground drainage (UGD) infrastructure in some parts of the city while work in some areas is under way. The sewerage is being built under a loan from the Asian Development Bank.

The KUIDFC has completed laying the network in Pachchanady area and has set up a sewage treatment plant (STP) there.

The Mayor said that the council would take a decision on how to connect the sewer lines from houses and other buildings to the network, who should connect them — corporation or property owners — and the fee to be fixed for users if the corporation were to be made responsible for the job.

According to M.K. Maninarayana, Superintending Engineer, KUIDFC, about 75 per cent of the work of laying of the new underground sewer network in the city has been completed. The KUIDFC has to lay 360 km of sewer pipes in the jurisdiction of the MCC. It has already laid 267.3 km of pipes.

It has completed building one more STP at Kavoor while two more STPs — one at Surathkal and another at Jeppinamogaru — are being set up. The four STPs will be able to process 89 MLD (million litres a day) of sewage, he said. The official said that of the 22 wells to be dug in different areas, only four had been dug and commissioned. The rest were in various stages of completion.

When all these works are complete, there would be 13,465 manholes in the jurisdiction of MCC.

The entire UGD work was expected to be completed by the end of June.



The much delayed project will finally be compl,eted in June 2010. Mangalore will become the first city in the country to have a 100% UGD network. I personally feel the connections should be free atleast for small houses .This is not a luxury but a basuc necessity. It is a pity that majority of towns and cities in India do not have this facility and nit even contemplating it in the near future.

A CLEAR 7 STARS FOR MANGALORE!

ajay ramchandran
November 20th, 2009, 12:31 AM
Atleast some progress! Thanks for the photos.

engineer.akash
November 20th, 2009, 03:37 PM
Nethra ,Mangalore

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/839/4114824973695e517062o.jpg

Krishnamoorthy K
November 20th, 2009, 03:43 PM
^^ That should be Infosys Unit-2?

engineer.akash
November 20th, 2009, 03:45 PM
yes,some place called mudipu???

kudlabobs
November 20th, 2009, 05:40 PM
http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/20/stories/2009112058610300.htm

MCC likely to take decision on sewerage by month-end



Staff Correspondent

Sewer lines from buildings have to be connected to underground network------

The project is coming up under ADB loan

Four sewage treatment plants being set up

Photo: R. Eswarraj

DEVELOPMENT: Work on underground drainage under way at Kodical in Mangalore

MANGALORE: The council of the Mangalore City Corporation (MCC) is likely to take a decision in its meeting to be held by this month-end on connecting sewer lines from houses and other buildings to the newly laid underground sewerage network.

This matter will be discussed in the meeting scheduled for November 30, Mayor M. Shankar Bhat told The Hindu.

The Karnataka Urban Infrastructure Development and Finance Corporation (KUIDFC) has completed the underground drainage (UGD) infrastructure in some parts of the city while work in some areas is under way. The sewerage is being built under a loan from the Asian Development Bank.

The KUIDFC has completed laying the network in Pachchanady area and has set up a sewage treatment plant (STP) there.

The Mayor said that the council would take a decision on how to connect the sewer lines from houses and other buildings to the network, who should connect them — corporation or property owners — and the fee to be fixed for users if the corporation were to be made responsible for the job.

According to M.K. Maninarayana, Superintending Engineer, KUIDFC, about 75 per cent of the work of laying of the new underground sewer network in the city has been completed. The KUIDFC has to lay 360 km of sewer pipes in the jurisdiction of the MCC. It has already laid 267.3 km of pipes.

It has completed building one more STP at Kavoor while two more STPs — one at Surathkal and another at Jeppinamogaru — are being set up. The four STPs will be able to process 89 MLD (million litres a day) of sewage, he said. The official said that of the 22 wells to be dug in different areas, only four had been dug and commissioned. The rest were in various stages of completion.

When all these works are complete, there would be 13,465 manholes in the jurisdiction of MCC.

The entire UGD work was expected to be completed by the end of June.



The much delayed project will finally be compl,eted in June 2010. Mangalore will become the first city in the country to have a 100% UGD network. I personally feel the connections should be free atleast for small houses .This is not a luxury but a basuc necessity. It is a pity that majority of towns and cities in India do not have this facility and nit even contemplating it in the near future.

A CLEAR 7 STARS FOR MANGALORE!




Ajay I have never seen any UGD work goingon in the city, they have mentioned 75% completed. As per my knowledge they haven't changed any drainage pipes in the city level. Sewage is moving on laid back about 50 or 60 yrs not sure. Then what is this UGD program can you please explain..

Krishnamoorthy K
November 20th, 2009, 06:00 PM
^^ I had seen some works on Kulooru-Kavooru road may near Panjimogeru.

They might have done or may be doing it in newly added areas like Ullal, Bajpe, etc, but not sure.

In core Mangalore UGD is already there. They just do maintenance works as per needs in the old areas I think.

ananda.padebettu
November 20th, 2009, 06:44 PM
Flyover at Surathkal towards Mangalore at the middle
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Flyover at Surathkal towards Mangalore
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Flyover at Surathkal towards Mangalore
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Flyover at Kottara Cross between City Road and NH 17
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Flyover at Kottara Cross between City Road and NH 17
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4 Lane flyover at Kuntikan Junction (Work completed - traffic allowed
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXQYJ8yDI/AAAAAAAAADY/XAmo5izmnoU/s640/DSCN9340.jpg

Road widening NH 17 between Nantoor circle to KPT Junction
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KPT Junction towards city
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Flyover at Kaikamba Junction towards Padil (Bypass road)
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Flyover at Kaikamba Junction towards Nantoor circle(Bypass road)
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Flyover at Kaikamba Junction towards Nantoor Circle (Bypass Road)
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrYR7Pul5I/AAAAAAAAAEo/6tQyK4L1kbQ/s640/DSCN9321.jpg

Railway over bridge at B C Road (No work tackled)
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXWkwMAEI/AAAAAAAAADk/GB_eol3-WRs/s640/DSCN9337.jpg

Road widening at Kannur in front masque
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXYakC0SI/AAAAAAAAADo/UfqYq4K5Yqg/s640/DSCN9336.jpg

Road Widening at Kannur in front of Masque
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Road Widening at Kannur towards B C Road
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrYEbgYI2I/AAAAAAAAAEc/Nea6UqTTRBw/s640/DSCN9324.jpg

Road Widening at Kannur towards Mangalore
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrYLnbumII/AAAAAAAAAEk/qI47sWbPkuU/s640/DSCN9322.jpg

Road widening at B C Road
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXbN8RmnI/AAAAAAAAADs/L1eyfysB6jI/s640/DSCN9335.jpg

Nose cutting work at B C Road
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrX_fWADSI/AAAAAAAAAEU/3HnivzrN-wQ/s640/DSCN9326.jpg

Tumbe High embankment widening towards B C Road
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrX7BMAlCI/AAAAAAAAAEM/G3Q6IYHG0eo/s640/DSCN9327.jpg

Tume embankment bridge widening 2nd from B C Road
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXfp2nx3I/AAAAAAAAADw/uuQE3006K34/s640/DSCN9334.jpg

Tume embankment bridge widening 1st from B C Road
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXi8CCZ8I/AAAAAAAAAD0/-6uSTf6c_nA/s640/DSCN9333.jpg

Flyover at B C Road towards Mangalore
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXlxf6WjI/AAAAAAAAAD4/IA7u3zXYABQ/s640/DSCN9332.jpg

Flyover Ramp work at B C Road
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7tW8k-gzMqk/SvrXo7v8vZI/AAAAAAAAAD8/vPtXHTw3O98/s640/DSCN9331.jpg

Courtesy: gsvardhaman (http://picasaweb.google.com/gsvardhaman/HighwayConnectivityProject#), 10 Nov 2009

Thanks Akash for discovery.

Hi all,

I was keenly following the exchange of views regarding the development of Mangalore. I am also interested to see how Mangalore gears up to reach the big league without labour pain. I think so far so good.

We need to ptrotect greenery of the city at all costs and must manage to plant at least 2 plants against one tree fell for Developmental work.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 20th, 2009, 07:25 PM
^^ Thanks Ananda Padebettu.

I think they can plant four or five lines of trees and plants all along national highways - service road ends (big tress), between service roads and main roads (small trees) and dividers (small plants).

Where is Padebettu located?

engineer.akash
November 20th, 2009, 07:40 PM
Where is Padebettu located?

^^ exactly even I guessed that it must be a place......like padukone......:)

ajay ramchandran
November 21st, 2009, 01:54 AM
Ajay I have never seen any UGD work going on in the city, they have mentioned 75% completed. As per my knowledge they haven't changed any drainage pipes in the city level. Sewage is moving on laid back about 50 or 60 yrs not sure. Then what is this UGD program can you please explain..

The UGD works have been going on for the past six years or so.Many roads in the city were dug up few years ago to lay the drainage. THe core city already had UGD. Under the ADB scheme the UGD was extended to areas such as Suratkal .Infact the entire KSRao road was dug up several years ago. I stll remember the mess that created.The road was closed ffor more than 3 months.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 21st, 2009, 05:17 AM
Mangalore, November 20, 2009: The Mangalore One project on the lines of Bangalore One will take shape soon according to the in -charge secretary Mr.M.N. Vidyashankar here today.

Speaking to the presspersons Mr. Vidyashankar said the Bangalore 1 project has now grown into a multipurpose facility and the number of kiosks have grown from 15 to 35 and Bangalore will get few more kiosks.

The public response for the Bangalore 1 has encouraged the government to look at other cities in the state especially Mangalore which was the second growth centre for the state. He said Mangalore will initially have 7 kiosks which will be distributed all around the core city, but soon the towns like Surathkal, Mulky, Buntwal, Moodbidri, Karkala, Puttur, Sullia, Ullal and various other places in the district will also get them.

The idea was that the people should not run from pillar to post to get their jobs done. Each kiosk can take up all the jobs right from bill payment to ticket reservation and host of other jobs, the citizens should not waste time standing in the queue for various utility services.

Other services includes Railway ticket booking, domestic flight ticket booking, registration of new passports, registration for renewal or re-issue of passports, MCC property tax, KSRTC monthly passes, issue of birth and death certificates, sale of passport applications, Market value assistance for property registration, renewal of registration certificate for shops and commercial establishments, Western Union money transfer, payment of traffic fines, Life insurance premium renewals, payment of road tax for goods vehicles, private bus ticket booking and cinema tickets and many more.

Karnataka WAN soon

MANGALORE: In-charge secretary of the Dakshina Kannada district Mr. M.N.Vidyashankar today stated that state will soon have a pan Karnataka Wide Area Network which will help the state to expedite decisions that will put the state on developmental path.

Addressing a press conference here today Mr. Vidyashankar said that the state will be the first one to have such a network. The wide area network will connect all the district offices and percolate down to the grama panchayat level. the K-WAN will spur development he added.

Pertaining to the Asian Forest ship that had sunken off Mangalore Port, Mr. Vidyashankar said that the government was in constant touch with the owners of the ship and they have been persuaded to clear off the wreckage as soon as possible to make that area safer for navigation.

Mr. Vidyashankar said the government had increased the quota of the NREGA for the state and Dakshina Kannada will get more man hours compared to other districts.

Deputy Commissioner of Dakshina Kannada Mr. V. Ponnuraj was also present on the occasion.


Source: Mangalorean (http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=156491)

As I said earlier if postal services were also available with Mangalore One it would have been great. But Mangalore One is state government project and postal services is central government. No idea when passport seva kendra will be ready.

Lot of things are getting computerized. Cheers to e-governance! I think they might be feeding all UGD, storm water channel, water pipeline, telecom cable data to some GIS package along with land ownership details?

Krishnamoorthy K
November 21st, 2009, 05:34 AM
The Board of Research and Nuclear Sciences (BRNS), a wing of Department of Atomic Energy (DAE), will fund Mangalore University to set up a Centre for Application of Radioisotopes and Radiation Technology, Vice Chancellor K M Kaveriappa said today.

Talking to newspersons here, he said the University has planned to set up the Centre in collaboration with the Bhaba Atomic Research Centre (BARC) and Board of Radiation and Isotope Technology (BRIT) to offer a three-month certificate course on application of radioisotopes in biological sciences in addition to training and research activities on application of radioisotopes and radiation technology.

The Centre to be set up at an estimated cost of Rs 2.5 crore would be the first of its kind in South Indian Universities.

It will helps in research activities pertaining to medical, pharmaceutical, fisheries and agriculture, he added.


Source: Mangalorean (http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=local&newsid=156508)

University to set up radioisotopes facility (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/20/stories/2009112059200300.htm)

Microtron Advanced Research Centre is working on BRNS projects.
CMFRI is also getting its own building.

Some things are happening in science domain in Mangalore other than clinical research laboratories.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 21st, 2009, 06:05 AM
* Impediments hampering widening of roads sorted out at a meeting held on Friday
* Flyover at Kottara junction to be ready in three months
* Land acquisition process in final stages

MANGALORE: A meeting chaired by the Principal Secretary, e-governance, M.N. Vidyashankar, who is the in-charge Secretary of Dakshina Kannada, on Friday sorted out some of the issues that had hampered the implementation of projects to widen key national highways in the district.

The roads being widened to four lanes include Surathkal-Nanthur junction, Nanthur Junction to B.C. Road and further up to Bantwal.

Announcing this at press conference, Deputy Commissioner V. Ponnuraj said that the flyover at Kottara junction, which is part of the project to widen the National Highway from Surathal to Nanthur junction, was expected to be ready in three months. The National Highways Authority of India (NHAI), which has taken up the project, had made such a promise in the meeting. The NHAI and the Mangalore Electricity Supply Company (Mescom) had agreed to work simultaneously on shifting electricity lines for the road widening project. He agreed that a few issues pertaining to shifting of water lines were yet to be resolved.

Mr. Ponnuraj said that the land acquisition process was in the final stages. It had remained incomplete because of certain “errors in judgement” on the part of the consultants of the NHAI. About four acres of land had to be acquired afresh in 16 villages because of improper groundwork. This was in addition to 24 acres of land already acquired, he said. Blaming improper soil testing at Kottara, which had prompted NHAI to change the design of the flyover, he said the agency had taken about a year to revise the plan.

Asian Forest

On the sunken merchant vessel Asian Forest, Mr. Ponnuraj said the company hired by the Japan Protection and Indemnity Club, the insurer for the ship’s owner, had promised to complete a survey of the ship for salvaging the furnace oil in five days. They would wait for clearance of the next plan before going ahead with salvaging of the oil. There was a fear of oil slick as the ship sank with over 4 lakh litres of furnace oil.

Mr. Ponnuraj said the same company, which was hired for a similar operation near Karwar, had removed furnace oil within 18 days of the sinking of a ship some time ago. In the case of Asian Forest, already four months had elapsed since the ship sank.

The crew of the ship detained here would be released once the operation to remove the oil began, he added.

Earlier, Mr. Vidyashankar expressed his happiness over the zilla panchayat revising its target under the Mahatma Gandhi Rural Employment Guarantee Act (MREGA) and hoped that it would spend up to Rs. 10 crore in this fiscal instead of the Rs. 2 crore planned initially.

He said three MangaloreOne centres would start functioning in the city by December 15. More centres could be opened depending on the volume of business.

GPRS system

Mr. Ponnuraj, who expressed serious concern over the accident at Uppunda in Udupi district on Thursday night, said this should serve as a warning for the people of this district as well. In order to curb speeding buses, GPRS system would be introduced to monitor the movement of vehicles from a control room, he said.


Source: The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/21/stories/2009112159850300.htm)

GPRS control room - one more addition to e-governance.

Forest is good for environment but Asian Forest is bad!

visnaya
November 21st, 2009, 12:21 PM
Source: Mangalorean (http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=156491)

As I said earlier if postal services were also available with Mangalore One it would have been great. But Mangalore One is state government project and postal services is central government. No idea when passport seva kendra will be ready.

Lot of things are getting computerized. Cheers to e-governance! I think they might be feeding all UGD, storm water channel, water pipeline, telecom cable data to some GIS package along with land ownership details?

Bangalore one is useless project according to me. except bill payment for electricity and telephone nothing else you can do there. India is hub for out sourcing. Government should learn from them. The Bangalore one should be place to collect all the papers for government agenesis. Including birth, death, caste certificates, khata change, Land registration, property tax all application collection including electricity, postal, RTO, water or passport. The application might be city corp. or state or central but the collection centre is one point and they transfer through e- or paper to respective agencies. People should able to track what is happening of their application. if accepted, rejected or some more clarification required etc.
There should be SLA (SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENT) between all agencies that within so many days it should move from one table to another table. if some delay is happening people can go to court or lokayukta based on this data. This also solve the problem of how many file (in outsource term ticket) are getting cleared per day. this also give the efficiency of person, department and bottleneck.

This only will solve the corruption problem, given accountability and increase the efficiency.

other wise just for bill collecting it is useless. there are easy bill etc to do this.
:bash::bash:

Krishnamoorthy K
November 21st, 2009, 12:28 PM
You are right visnaya. Hope along with UID project they would be able to network all other information and provide all public services at common service centers.

ajay ramchandran
November 21st, 2009, 08:35 PM
Mangalore: Measures to Regulate Speed of Buses – GPS System Being Made Mandatory http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=68619&n_tit=Mangalore%3A+Measures+to+Regulate+Speed+of+Buses+%96+GPS+System+Being+Made+Mandatory


Daijiworld Media Network – Mangalore (SP)

Mangalore, Nov 21: Dakshina Kannada district deputy commissioner, V Ponnuraj, said that fitting of Global Positioning System (GPS) equipment will be made mandatory for all the buses in the district, for regulating the speed of the buses. Pointing out to the gory tragedy near Byndoor on Thursday night, in which 11 lives were lost, he asked the people to learn lessons from the accident and keep the speed of buses under check.

As the GPS makes it possible to ascertain the speed of the buses, places through which they move etc., the authorities can exercise better control over them. The GPS was implemented in the past, but many buses are still to be provided with this system. Therefore, it has been decided to make it compulsory for all the buses moving in the district, he clarified.

In reply to a question, he said, it is not at present, possible to issue permits for the government buses in the city, as private bus owners have brought a stay against this move from the court. Referring to complaints that several bus owners, who hold permits, have not been running their buses on the permitted routes, he said that such permits will be cancelled soon.


Akash ,looks like end of the road for KSRTC to run city buses in Mangalore.

engineer.akash
November 22nd, 2009, 12:17 AM
^^ :ohno:

engineer.akash
November 22nd, 2009, 12:30 AM
Scraps on two roads were cleared off

Mangalore: Nov 21, DHNS:

District administration and Mangalore City Corporation carried out eviction drive in Beebi Alabi Road and Azeezuddhin road in Bunder area in Mangalore on Saturday.


The parts of these two roads remained encroached for the past several years despite frequent attempts to clear off the illegal occupation. The operation continued for nearly three hours. The operation began with loading scrap items using bulldozers. Though the scrap vendors and the owners protested and urged the authorities to give some more time to clear the scrap materials from the road, the officials carried on with the operation with police security.

It may be recalled that MCC Commissioner and Deputy Commissioner V Ponnuraj had visited these two roads on last Saturday and warned the owners to clear the footpaths within two days.

Speaking to Deccan Herald, MCC Commissioner Dr Vijayaprakash said “we cleared off nearly one and half kilometre road. Either side of the roads were filled with scrap materials, old and torn items, old vehicles, sheets, which were causing lot of inconvenience to the movement of vehicles as well as pedestrians. We had already served notice to the owners concerned. However, very few of them had cleared the roads.”


http://www.deccanherald.com/content/37224/scraps-two-roads-were-cleared.html

Krishnamoorthy K
November 22nd, 2009, 06:42 AM
Dakshina Kannada MP Nalin Kumar Kateel told that delays in fourlaning works of national highways will be discussed during parlimentary session.

He also said that NHAI officials are not participating in coordination meetings called by district officials.

-- Udayavani (http://www.udayavani.com/epaper/PDFList.aspx?Pg=H&Edn=MN&DispDate=11/22/2009) e-paper page 14.

ananda.padebettu
November 22nd, 2009, 07:05 AM
^^ Thanks Ananda Padebettu.

^^I think they can plant four or five lines of trees and plants all along national highways - service road ends (big tress), between service roads and main roads (small trees) and dividers (small plants).

Where is Padebettu located?



Hi Krishnamoorthy,

I agree with you to the idea of planting trees along the Higway. However, I am also concerned with the same. If the government wishes to expand the highway to 8 lane one, they may have to resort to 'Vriksha Samhara'. Therefore they must plant the trees away from Highways or bigger roads which could become due for expansion over a decade.

Padebettu is my ancestral place. It is located between Nandikuru and Padubidri. It is the most happening places in our undivided districts. On one side Nagarjuna is functioning and on the otherside Suzlon SEZ is being set up.

:)

Hi Aaksh,

In fact I liked Mysore vary much for its old way of lifestyle. Mysore had been always uder the shadow of Big Brother Bangalore. It is sad to note that the developments taking place in and around Mysore is making it another Banglore. Today's Mysore looks like Bangalore around 10-15 years ago. With this growth, Mysore is expected to become another Bangalore in 10-15 years. People may have to resort to the uneasy life in upcoming Big unplanned cities.

:)

Krishnamoorthy K
November 22nd, 2009, 08:48 AM
Ananda, there is another thread on Udupi also.

Hi Krishnamoorthy,
I agree with you to the idea of planting trees along the Higway. However, I am also concerned with the same. If the government wishes to expand the highway to 8 lane one, they may have to resort to 'Vriksha Samhara'. Therefore they must plant the trees away from Highways or bigger roads which could become due for expansion over a decade.


Yes, it depends how they plan. In case they are thinking of expanding to 8 lane then they have to plan for trees which may be cut and used for some useful purposes at the time of expansion. In my opinion instead of expanding the current road to 8 lane they have to come up with a parallel highway of 8 lanes. This is because current highway stretch is already occupied by several buildings and houses on both sides and acquiring land for 8 lane may be very very difficult.

ajay ramchandran
November 22nd, 2009, 10:04 AM
Dear All I found this calculations in daiji world on the comment section . As we know that in most cities the apartments are overpriced and Mangalore is no exception.

I think the rent for these type of apartments is 25 thousand a month. So if you have this kind of money it is more sensible to rent it and get interest off the one crore which could be 9 laks per annum which and you are still saving 6 lakhs a year.The builder has gone on record that these one crore apartments have been OVERBOOKED.


The construction cost of super deluxe flat with common amenities (Swimming pool, club house, children’s play area) would be approximate Rs. 1800.00. + Land cost depending on the area.

Example: In Falnir main road its Rs. 12 lac per cent having 30 feet wide road. According to MUDA by laws ratio is 1:3 (Land area to built up area). Hence land cost will be Rs. 925 per sq. ft.

Therefore Land cost + construction cost would be Rs. 2725.00 Add to developer’s profit (Maximum) Rs. 1,000.00. Hence selling price is 3,725.00. The present deluxe flats are being sold in Mangalore @ Rs. 3300 – 3500 (Mohitsham builder/Janatha construction)

A cost of 2000 sft super deluxe flat in Mangalore should be 54, 50,000.00 (Rs. 3725 x 2000). Surprisingly the deluxe and super deluxe apartment cost less in Bangalore.
Cost of deluxe flat by Manthri developers is Rs. 3,000 / sqft. The cost of super deluxe flat from Builder sameer khan is Rs. 3,500


COULD SOME ONE COMMENT ON THIS PLEASE?COULD YOU COMPARE THIS WITH OTHER CITIES OF SIMILAR STATUS...KOCHI,TVM,VIZAG?

engineer.akash
November 22nd, 2009, 10:41 AM
Hi Krishnamoorthy,


Hi Aaksh,

In fact I liked Mysore vary much for its old way of lifestyle. Mysore had been always uder the shadow of Big Brother Bangalore. It is sad to note that the developments taking place in and around Mysore is making it another Banglore. Today's Mysore looks like Bangalore around 10-15 years ago. With this growth, Mysore is expected to become another Bangalore in 10-15 years. People may have to resort to the uneasy life in upcoming Big unplanned cities.

:)


Hi!
Ananda,yes I too agree Mysore is unique......Bangalore is almost doomed I always fear that Mysore is going the bangalore way,but believe me the locals here are so laid back and lazy that they will not allow any development which would make their life uneasy........:cheers:......I am one among the lazy people........:lol:

Mysore should retain its tourism edge over other sectors..........Only IT companies in mysore are making the life uneasy for the locals............land prices have soared.....Having a dream house in mysore would soon become a dream forever.............I just dont want any more IT/BPO companies in mysore......

ajay ramchandran
November 22nd, 2009, 10:46 AM
Hi!
Ananda,yes I too agree Mysore is unique......Bangalore is almost doomed I always fear that Mysore is going the bangalore way,but believe me the locals here are so laid back and lazy that they will not allow any development which would make their life uneasy........:cheers:......I am one among the lazy people........:lol:

Mysore should retain its tourism edge over other sectors..........Only IT companies in mysore are making the life uneasy for the locals............land prices have soared.....Having a dream house in mysore would soon become a dream forever.............I just dont want any more IT/BPO companies in mysore......


Akash ,send them all to Mangalore. MYSORE was always known as pensioners PARADISE. but sadly not any more.It does not matter much to Mangalore because it was never a pensioners paradise .

engineer.akash
November 22nd, 2009, 10:54 AM
Akash ,send them all to Mangalore. MYSORE was always known as pensioners PARADISE. but sadly not any more.It does not matter much to Mangalore because it was never a pensioners paradise .

True,............ :lol: ......mangalore is a better place for IT/BPO companies.........Mysore still has a bit of charm left.......now with the citizens learning from bangalore's failure........they have formed an association called association of concerned citizens forum and recently they put a spanner in the works of makkaji chowk mall.....and i am a great supporter of the forum..........:cheers:

Krishnamoorthy K
November 22nd, 2009, 01:49 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/v4ngci.jpg

Bharath Mall 2, A shopping mall next to Bharath mall, Bijai, Mangalore, will be adding more retail space to the existing lineup of branded stores. Seeing the requirement and demand for more retail space, we are adding another 50,000 sq ft space to the existing 1.50 lakh sq ft space of Bharath mall. The mall will consist of 2 level basement parking which is adding another 60 car park and 200 bike parking. Amenities available at Bharath mall 2 – Completely air conditioned 100% power back-up, elevators, escalators, plush toilets, round the clock security with surveillance, housekeeping etc. Presently the entire retail space is free for sign up.

Source: Bharath Builders (http://www.bharathbuilders.co.in/upcoming_projects.html)


Shilpa Shetty's wedding wows! (http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_shilpa-shetty-s-wedding-wows_1314628)

ananda.padebettu
November 22nd, 2009, 04:04 PM
^^True,............ :lol: ......mangalore is a better place for IT/BPO companies.........Mysore still has a bit of charm left.......now with the citizens learning from bangalore's failure........they have formed an association called association of concerned citizens forum and recently they put a spanner in the works of makkaji chowk mall.....and i am a great supporter of the forum..........:cheers:

Aakash,

I feel stopping a Mall construction will not help in the growth of a City. You must be aware that the small cities like Mangalore or Mysore are the future growth centres in India. One can't stop these cities from growing. Mall, Moview multiplexes will be part of these developments.

As a citizen, we must fight for the basic amneties like good drinage system, Health care system, infrastructures and education system in the city. A City must have good Green Coverage to nullify the effect of vahicular pollution etc. Sadlu none of the Indian cities are geared up for this challenge. You must look at fighting for the same.

:ohno:

engineer.akash
November 22nd, 2009, 05:37 PM
^^

Aakash,

I feel stopping a Mall construction will not help in the growth of a City. You must be aware that the small cities like Mangalore or Mysore are the future growth centres in India. One can't stop these cities from growing. Mall, Moview multiplexes will be part of these developments.

As a citizen, we must fight for the basic amneties like good drinage system, Health care system, infrastructures and education system in the city. A City must have good Green Coverage to nullify the effect of vahicular pollution etc. Sadlu none of the Indian cities are geared up for this challenge. You must look at fighting for the same.

:ohno:

I totally agree on your stance regarding the true development issues of a city............having multistoried buildings or huge malls are not the measure of development of a city
What we need is good drainage system,24*7 water supply,good transport system,Efficient traffic management,Roads with pavements taking pedestrians safety into account,good green cover and its sad that none of the cities in india qualify for the being the best..........:ohno:

engineer.akash
November 22nd, 2009, 06:21 PM
NHAI, MCC asked to conduct joint survey

TNN 22 November 2009, 09:31pm IST


MANGALORE: Issues delaying the four-laning project between B C Road to Surathkal came in for intense scrutiny at a high level meeting chaired by
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the district in-charge secretary M N Vidyashankar here on Friday.

Vidyashankar directed the authorities of National Highways Authority of India and the Mangalore City Corporation to go in for a joint survey and inspection of problematic issues and resolve the same within a week.

Addressing reporters, DC V Ponnuraj said the issues of contention pertain to shifting of utilities, cutting of hillocks in few areas to facilitate the four-laning project, maintenance of stretches of the road already completed so far, and delays in completion of flyovers that are integral to the project.

There is also the issue of shifting power cables at Nanthoor that the Mescom and the NHAI have to amicably sort out, he noted.

Delay in land acquisition has no doubt hit the interests of the project, Ponnuraj said, adding that court cases have only added to the delay. There are also issues pertaining to relocating places of religious sentiments at Brahmarakootlu near Bantwal, and the question of providing compensation to people who have illegally squatted on revenue land at Nanthoor, he said adding NHAI has assured to get the same examined by its HO.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/NHAI-MCC-asked-to-conduct-joint-survey/articleshow/5258103.cms

ajay ramchandran
November 22nd, 2009, 08:25 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/v4ngci.jpg

Bharath Mall 2, A shopping mall next to Bharath mall, Bijai, Mangalore, will be adding more retail space to the existing lineup of branded stores. Seeing the requirement and demand for more retail space, we are adding another 50,000 sq ft space to the existing 1.50 lakh sq ft space of Bharath mall. The mall will consist of 2 level basement parking which is adding another 60 car park and 200 bike parking. Amenities available at Bharath mall 2 – Completely air conditioned 100% power back-up, elevators, escalators, plush toilets, round the clock security with surveillance, housekeeping etc. Presently the entire retail space is free for sign up.


Source: Bharath Builders (http://www.bharathbuilders.co.in/upcoming_projects.html)


Shilpa Shetty's wedding wows! (http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_shilpa-shetty-s-wedding-wows_1314628)

Looks like there is scope for more Malls in Mangalore!

ajay ramchandran
November 22nd, 2009, 10:35 PM
yes,some place called mudipu???


Netra is the second development centre(In Mangalore) of Infosys in the 300 acres INFOSYS SEZ at Mudipu near Mangalore University .They have more than 1000 employess there but will increase to about 3000. I was waiting for the picture. It started functioning more than a year ago.

ajay ramchandran
November 22nd, 2009, 10:43 PM
The chances of Mangalore getting JNNURM has not been ruled out.. Once Mulki and Ullar has been included in the corporation the population is likely to go up by another one lakh or so.

Keeping fingers crossed...never lose hope

Krishnamoorthy K
November 23rd, 2009, 06:02 AM
http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/23/images/2009112358640301.jpg

* Corporation is spending Rs. 2 crore on the project
* Work delayed because of a stay order
* ‘The plan now is to make it a two-lane road’

MANGALORE: Concreting the stretch between Father Muller’s junction and Nandigudda has hit a roadblock in the form of a tree near the Valencia junction. The tree is right in the middle of the road, and work cannot be completed till the tree is removed.

The Mangalore City Corporation, which is spending over Rs. 2 crore on this two-km stretch, is unable to complete the work on one part of the road because of a stay order from the court. The court order was secured by residents of the area with support of environmentalists such as Vidya Dinker, and the Democratic Youth Federation of India (DYFI).

Taking a tough stand on the proposal to fell over 80 trees on this stretch, the agitators demanded that not a single tree be brought down in the vicinity for the roadwork. K.N. Vijayaprakash, corporation Commissioner, told The Hindu on Saturday that there was no proposal to axe all the trees in the area. “That proposal was made when we wanted to build a four-lane road.

But now, the plan has been changed to laying a two-lane road there. Now, we want to remove only one tree,” he said.

However, Mr. Vijayaprakash refused to elaborate, saying the matter was sub judice.

Ms. Dinker said that the decision to prevent tree-felling on the stretch was taken by residents of the area. Expressing support to the stand taken by the residents, she said, “Let the corporation design the road in such a manner that it does not have to cut the trees.”

When it was pointed out that this was the case of just one tree blocking the progress of a two-km stretch she said, “We will wait and honour the court’s decision.”

However, district president of DYFI Muneer Katipalla said his organisation was willing to soften its stand if the issue was confined to only one tree. “Our opposition is to the felling of all trees on this stretch. If the work on the entire road is being held up by one tree, then common sense must prevail,” he said.

But, the tree is not the only problem being faced by the corporation.

An electricity pole just next to the tree is also causing problem for the civic body in completing the roadwork. Mr. Vijayaprakash said that as the authorities did not shift the utility line on time, the corporation had no option but to complete work on the road around the pole, he said.

While corporation officials, who did not wish to be identified, blamed it entirely on the Mangalore Electricity Supply Company, Mr. Vijayaprakash said he did not want to single out any particular department.

He conceded that Mescom would have to shut down power supply through the line to facilitate shifting of the pole.


Source: The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/23/stories/2009112358640300.htm)

sudheeshnairs
November 23rd, 2009, 05:10 PM
Surprisingly the deluxe and super deluxe apartment cost less in Bangalore. Cost of deluxe flat by Manthri developers is Rs. 3,000 / sqft. The cost of super deluxe flat from Builder sameer khan is Rs. 3,500


COULD SOME ONE COMMENT ON THIS PLEASE?COULD YOU COMPARE THIS WITH OTHER CITIES OF SIMILAR STATUS...KOCHI,TVM,VIZAG?

Ajay, you cannot compare Bangalore with Mangalore regarding apartment prizes. In megalopolises like Bangalore, you can find a varied range of prices. You will find the lowest as well as one of the highest prices, which is not usually found in smaller cities. Mangalore is atleast 12 times smaller than Bangalore and hence this difference is not pronouced much. The supply is also very less.

You had quoted the prices of deluxe and super deluxe apartments in Bangalore being in the range of Rs. 3000/sft. I am not sure which project of Mantri you are mentioning. Mantri has Bangalore's costliest apartment, Mantri Altius which was pegged at Rs. 6 crores (Rs.10,000/sft) when it was launched in 2005. . Now the resale value of an apartment is pegged at Rs. 20 crores

http://www.hindu.com/pp/2005/10/08/stories/2005100800930300.htm

One of the lowest cost of the our apartments is at Mahadevapura, Whitefield Main Road (Brigade Metropolis). There the starting price as of now is about Rs. 3400/-. The project at Malleswaram, Brigade Gateway has a pricing that varies between Rs.5500-7000 per sft. Our project at Convent road, Brigade Odyssey is pegged at Rs.12500/- per sft.

So more or less, the rates you mentioned are in the suburbs, atleast in a radius of 10km from the city.

Coming to Trivandrum and Kochi, an average apartment is priced around Rs.3000 sft, with premium ones ranging from about Rs. 4500 per sft.upwards. SFS Grande, at Sasthamangalam, Trivandrum which is touted as a green building was being sold at this price. The recently launched 'I' by Big Infra opposite Technopark (about 15 kms from CBD) has rates ranging from 6500-8200/sft

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=937246

ajay ramchandran
November 23rd, 2009, 08:42 PM
Ajay, you cannot compare Bangalore with Mangalore regarding apartment prizes. In megalopolises like Bangalore, you can find a varied range of prices. You will find the lowest as well as one of the highest prices, which is not usually found in smaller cities. Mangalore is atleast 12 times smaller than Bangalore and hence this difference is not pronouced much. The supply is also very less.

You had quoted the prices of deluxe and super deluxe apartments in Bangalore being in the range of Rs. 3000/sft. I am not sure which project of Mantri you are mentioning. Mantri has Bangalore's costliest apartment, Mantri Altius which was pegged at Rs. 6 crores (Rs.10,000/sft) when it was launched in 2005. . Now the resale value of an apartment is pegged at Rs. 20 crores

http://www.hindu.com/pp/2005/10/08/stories/2005100800930300.htm

One of the lowest cost of the our apartments is at Mahadevapura, Whitefield Main Road (Brigade Metropolis). There the starting price as of now is about Rs. 3400/-. The project at Malleswaram, Brigade Gateway has a pricing that varies between Rs.5500-7000 per sft. Our project at Convent road, Brigade Odyssey is pegged at Rs.12500/- per sft.

So more or less, the rates you mentioned are in the suburbs, atleast in a radius of 10km from the city.

Coming to Trivandrum and Kochi, an average apartment is priced around Rs.3000 sft, with premium ones ranging from about Rs. 4500 per sft.upwards. SFS Grande, at Sasthamangalam, Trivandrum which is touted as a green building was being sold at this price. The recently launched 'I' by Big Infra opposite Technopark (about 15 kms from CBD) has rates ranging from 6500-8200/sft

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=937246


Thanks Sudeesh. That was the most sensible answer . I just found this news report by chance.

engineer.akash
November 24th, 2009, 07:14 PM
Palemar threatens bus operators with nationalization of routes

TNN 24 November 2009, 10:23pm IST

MANGALORE: Cooperate or face nationalization of bus routes was the terse message from district in-charge minister J Krishna Palemar to private bus operators here on Tuesday. Palemar, irked by complaints faced by the commuting public due to non-adherence of permit conditions and them legally challenging decisions taken at the local RTA, observed that there can be nothing more important than ensuring the larger good of people.

Chairing the quarterly Karnataka Development Programmes review meeting, Palemar instructed DC V Ponnuraj, who is also the chairman of the RTA to thrash out all outstanding issues with representatives of the Canara Bus Operators Association within a fortnight. If the bus operators do not give up their confrontational path, the government will be left with no option but to nationalize bus routes in Dakshina Kannada.

Palemar later told reporters that the government keeping in mind interests of people here has permitted private and KSRTC buses to operate simultaneously. ``However, private bus operators continue to thwart our efforts to provide qualitative transport services to people and this is bringing a bad name to the government,'' he said. Private bus operators know the steps that they need to take to end this deadlock, Palemar hinted.

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The DC earlier informed that private bus operators do not adhere to the permit conditions. The operators either do not operate on the route given to them or cut short their trips, causing a whole lot of inconvenience to people. In some cases, people are forced to travel on rooftops to reach the city for their business, he said. Mayor M Shankar Bhat said residents of Bajal and Padil in the city acutely feel this problem.

“The bus operators have effectively tied down my hands in issuing new bus permits by getting a stay on route formation carried out by transport department. The administration will represent the matter to the transport commissioner,'' he said adding that as per the Motor Vehicles Act, there is a need to clearly demarcate the routes that are nationalized and those that are mixed routes and the same was done in the route formation exercise.

Palemar clarified that if the bus operators refuse to budge and continue to remain defiant, the administration would request the state government as per a resolution adopted at the meeting to nationalize the bus routes in the district. There is no question of allowing for this mixed operational mode to continue under such adverse circumstances, he said, directing the DC to act on the resolution forthwith.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/-Palemar-threatens-bus-operators-with-nationalization-of-routes/articleshow/5262087.cms

^^ Get KSRTC to Mangalore!!!!!!!!!..............that is the only solution...............need to put an end to the private players brutal exploitation of the public.......:ohno:

City Like Mangalore needs a brand KSRTC services...........cancel all the private bus licenses.

Even cities in NK have city bus services of KSRTC.....whats with Dakshin Canara???

Krishnamoorthy K
November 25th, 2009, 03:05 PM
* Minister tells officials not to object to felling of trees for road widening
* ‘Road alignment cannot be changed for the sake of a few trees’
* New vented dam at Thumbe likely to be completed in a month’s time

MANGALORE: Minister for Environment, Ecology, Ports and Inland Water Transport J. Krishna Palemar on Tuesday directed Forest Department officials here not to object unnecessarily to cutting of trees for widening roads in the Mangalore City Corporation limits.

Presiding over a progress review meeting here, he said that cutting of some trees was inevitable for widening of roads and other development works. It was not right on the part of the officials to object to it.

“You first focus on preventing unauthorised felling of trees in forests,” the Minister told the officials, represented by Vijayakumar Shetty, Deputy Conservator of Forest (DCF), Dakshina Kannada.

Mr. Palemar said that in some placesroad alignment could not be changed for the sake of a few trees. Mayor M. Shankar Bhat said that the Forest Department had neither rejected nor approved the demand of the city corporation to cut some trees near Pandeshwar and on the stretch between Kankanady and Morgan’s Gate. V. Ponnuraj, Deputy Commissioner, said that only four trees would have to be cut between Kankanady and Morgan’s Gate. The corporation was trying to save trees wherever possible. The Minister directed the DCF to give clearance for cutting trees on roads where work had been affected, in a week’s time. Mr. Ponnuraj said that the Karnataka Urban Water Supply and Drainage Board would take up a survey to assess the extent of land that would be submerged by the time the new vented dam at Thumbe was completed. It would be completed in a month’s time.


Source: The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/25/stories/2009112560180300.htm)

Forest officials are also expected to contribute immensely in beautification of city with greenery.

Road at Kankanady dug up yet again (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/25/stories/2009112560190300.htm)
No more AC fishing vending kiosks - KFDC (http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=157122)
Kanakadasa Research Centre to compile writings on poet-saint (http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=local&newsid=156948)

ajay ramchandran
November 25th, 2009, 05:01 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/-Palemar-threatens-bus-operators-with-nationalization-of-routes/articleshow/5262087.cms

^^ Get KSRTC to Mangalore!!!!!!!!!..............that is the only solution...............need to put an end to the private players brutal exploitation of the public.......:ohno:

City Like Mangalore needs a brand KSRTC services...........cancel all the private bus licenses.

Even cities in NK have city bus services of KSRTC.....whats with Dakshin Canara???

Akash the problem is fear....people generally around the world resist change and that is a natural human response. The problem here is the KSRTC has only got its act together only in recent years. It was a rubbish ,corrupt organisation in the sixtees and seventies and even eighties. So the private operators thrived in Dakshina Kannada and undivided South Kanara. MANGALORE had an excellent private bus service in the past ..provided by transport giants like CPC,BALLAL ,SVM. The growth of small operators and commercial interests led to the down fall of the big companies in operating city services. Coupled with the fact that KSRTC was useless at that time and now the sudden growth of the city and put pressure on transport services. This is not the first time ministers have threatened to nationalise buses in Mangalore. It has been happening on and on for the past 35 years if I remember correctly. If Mangalore has to have a good transport then Private bus operators and KSRTC should function side by side. If KSRTC has to run services in Mangalore they have to put 2000 buses or more. Are they willing for that. There is no point KSRTC operating some 400 or 500 buses . That is not enough for a city like Mnagalore because private operators have more than 15oo buses in Mangalore alone.

engineer.akash
November 25th, 2009, 05:21 PM
^^ thats history when mangalore had excellent private players.the need of the hour is public convenient transport system......which only KSRTC can offer for mangalore......1500+ buses which KSRTC must employ can be temporarily achieved by using decommissioned buses of BMTC and other KSRTC allies along with some brand new buses..........:cheers:

as time pases by old buses can be totally phased out............cities like Mysore,Hubli,Belgaum and bangalore are under JNNURM cover so mangalore can use the buses which have been or would be phased out by the JNNURM cities................:cheers:

ajay ramchandran
November 25th, 2009, 06:00 PM
^^ thats history when mangalore had excellent private players.the need of the hour is public convenient transport system......which only KSRTC can offer for mangalore......1500+ buses which KSRTC must employ can be temporarily achieved by using decommissioned buses of BMTC and other KSRTC allies along with some brand new buses..........:cheers:

as time pases by old buses can be totally phased out............cities like Mysore,Hubli,Belgaum and bangalore are under JNNURM cover so mangalore can use the buses which have been or would be phased out by the JNNURM cities................:cheers:

You need political will as these private operators are very powerful and have lined up pockets of many a politician!

ananda.padebettu
November 25th, 2009, 06:58 PM
^^ thats history when mangalore had excellent private players.the need of the hour is public convenient transport system......which only KSRTC can offer for mangalore......1500+ buses which KSRTC must employ can be temporarily achieved by using decommissioned buses of BMTC and other KSRTC allies along with some brand new buses..........:cheers:

as time pases by old buses can be totally phased out............cities like Mysore,Hubli,Belgaum and bangalore are under JNNURM cover so mangalore can use the buses which have been or would be phased out by the JNNURM cities................:cheers:


Hi Akash,

I was just wondering after the last sentense mentioned by you. To tell you frankly, JNNURM will not be successful in the places as long as our corrupt system prevails. Do you mean that the cities under JNNURM will get all VOLVO buses and others will get scraps from Junkyard?

Although, there is a lobby of private buses, Mangalore and Udupi had been pioneer in providing Bus, Banking and Hotel services so far and I am sure none of the Karnataka cities can come so near to the strides achieved by this place so far.

What happened to Volvo Buses in Bangalore? Unfortunately they are riding on the raods full of pathhole. Didn't Bangalore receive huge chunk of ADB loan in the past, which was quite similar to that of so called JNNURM?

Did you see a drastic change so far? We all discuss a lot about JNNURM or ADB. Where the poople are proactive, those cities only will improve. In many cities mantioned in JNNURM people decorate the walls of every house or street with mark of "Jarda" (Stara or Goa.. Manikchand). Not only JNNURM even if something comes from heaven those areas may not see drastic changes. :lol:

engineer.akash
November 25th, 2009, 07:07 PM
^^ Ananda I dint mean Junk to mangalore.............

For the time being atleast mangalore citizens can sigh a relief with KSRTC services..................Getting new buses is secondary.............What I am emphasing here is that there must be an end of exploitation by the private players........:)

Krishnamoorthy K
November 26th, 2009, 05:11 AM
MANGALORE: "Thus far and no more", said Suresh Kumar, minister for urban development on violations of building licensing norms by commercial and multi-storeyed buildings in the city. His fiat also came with a clear direction to the deputy commissioner V Ponnuraj to enumerate all such violations that have taken place in the city since his last visit here on October 21, 2008 and submit a list of the same to his ministry for action at the earliest.

Addressing reporters after meeting with officials, and elected representatives during his day long visit to the city, the minister also said action will be initiated against officials of Mangalore City Corporation who despite clear directions to them to stop such violations during his last visit had failed to do so. His directive followed a spate of complaints from various quarters on the lack of parking space in front of buildings due to such violations.

PARKING LOTS USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES

Parking lots, especially in commercial buildings are being used for purposes other than what they were intended for. This is leading to a situation where vehicles are being parked on the road, Suresh Kumar said, adding that in some cases around 30 per cent of the roads are being used for parking vehicles. The minister clarified that his directive will apply to buildings constructed or in the construction stage since October 21, 2008.

In an effort to address the problem of vehicle parking, instructions have been issued to the officials to identify space for 10 multi-level parking lots across the city, including one at Hampankatta, which has already been identified. The minister said there is also an idea in its embryonic stage to deal with past violations of the building norms by imposing a fine on violators to fund the proposed parking lots to partially offset the cost of setting them up.

On JNNURM

On the issue of bringing Mangalore under the ambit of Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission, Kumar said an announcement to this effect could possibly be made by the Union minister for urban development Jaipal Reddy at an anniversary celebration of JNNURM to be held at New Delhi on December 3. Reddy has assured to extend this scheme to other cities in Karnataka and Delhi meet will hold the answer, he added.


Parking complexes needed at Bunts Circle, Balal Baugh, Car Street, Kadri Market. At PVS Circle, whole cyber pass can be used for constructing parking complex??

C&R rules to be implemented - Suresh Kumar fires the first salvo (http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=157312)

Mangalore November 25, 2009: The urban development minister Mr. Suresh Kumar today undertook a whirlwind tour of the civic facilities in the city and inspected functionality of those facilities.

He first visited the effluent treatment plant at Mullarkadu and sought information on the working of the plant from the engineers, he directed the officials to take stock of the situation on a day to day basis and warned that these days the environmental awareness was increasing among the people in a healthy pace which has to be collated with scientific data.

He later inspected the concrete roads being built in the city and suggested few changes. He said there are few innovations that were being carried out in Bangalore and other places which can be replicated in Mangalore also.

He later visited Jyothi circle (now Dr.Ambedkar circle) and spoke to commuters who were sweating it out in the sun as there was no bus shelter. Visibly disturbed at this sight Mr. Suresh Kumar told the officials to immediately construct bus shelters all along the Balmatta Road upto the last bus stand starting from the circle.

Mr. Suresh Kumar also stopped over at the concrete road construction site at Mangaladevi ward and said there was scope for widening that road further. Mr. Suresh Kumar also had a round of talks with the officials of Mangalore City Corporation, Mangalore Urban Development Authority, Revenue officials and many other departments here.

Later he also had a meeting with the people’s representatives where he faced a volley of questions including those that embarrassed him. Mr. James D’Souza a senior member of the Mangalore City Corporation Council asked him why the government had not implemented the Recruitment and Common Cadre Rules (C&R) rules?

At this question Mr. Suresh Kumar answered that the government had put the ball on the roll and has planned to implement the C&R rules and on 6 December this year the government will arrange a workshop involving all officials of the civic bodies in the state and brainstorm about implementation of the C&R rules. This rule when implemented fully will enable the government to transfer officials from one civic body to another.


Mr. Suresh also said few good words about Mangalore for being able to spend all the 100 Crore rupees in shortest time possible given to it by the government led by Mr. B.S. Yeddyurappa Chief Minister of Karnataka, he said to see the fruits of that money Mangalore will have to wait till end of January 2010.


Palemar has plans- Mangalore to get Green Police (http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=157312)

Mangalore will soon get Green Police according to the state environment and ecology minister Mr. Krishna Palemar, He said the Green police will keep a strict vigil over the litterbugs in the district especially in Mangalore. Speaking to a select group of journalists here today Mr. Palemar said he was aghast the way people are going on littering in the cities.

The Green Police concept which was a runaway success in Bangalore will soon be launched in Mangalore and few other districts and later it will be a common feature in all the districts.

Mr. Palemar said the Karnataka state will soon introduce a bill in the Assembly to ban polythene bags (shopping bags) in the state upto 40 microns. He said in the past the government had put restrictions to use polythene bags upto 20 microns but that did not work as the polythene bags continued to flood the markets, if this bill is passed use of polythene bags in common markets will be a costly affair discouraging the shopkeepers to freely give away polythene shopping bags to their customers. Karnataka will be the third state in the country after Himachal Pradesh and Haryana to bring a bill to ban polythene bags.

He said on the other hand the government will encourage usage of bio-degradable polythene bags in the market which of course comes at a cost. There are only two producers of bio-degradable bags in the state one of them was in Mangalore and another in Bangalore. The government was also studying the chances of giving more licences to produce bio-degradable polythene bags under a regulated industrial environment.

Mr. Palemar stated that a team of experts have put in their minds together on this issue and have helped in drafting of the bill. The findings have far reaching effects. It has been found that the polythene bags degrade soil and water.

He said no civic bodies in the state were not taking interest in recycling the plastic that has led to a dangerous situation of throwing the polythene bags into the open areas by people. Mr. Palemar said “We have used all other methods in the past to discourage people from using them but now situation calls for stringent and radical measure”

Bangalore and Mangalore are the largest users of Polythene bags. Bangalore uses anything close to 120 tons per day while in Mangalore it is 55 tons per day. 70 per cent of the polythene bags gets discarded which ends up in storm water drains and settle down in fresh water bodies.


Bangalore:Mangalore ratio of polythene bags usage is 120:55 tons per day. Where as population ratio is 15:1. That means either Mangaloreans are very rich and can afford to use so many tons of polythene bags or Mangaloreans are very poor to purchase carry bags.

Bill to ban use of polythene bags on cards (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/Bill-to-ban-use-of-polythene-bags-on-cards/articleshow/5269120.cms)

jjain
November 26th, 2009, 07:03 AM
http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=157308

Karnataka Government has decided to set up a golf course and an institute of Institute of Hotel Management (IHM) in Mangalore to tap tourism potential in coastal Karnataka. This was announced by Minister for Tourism G Janardhana Reddy here after releasing a new Karnataka Tourism Policy for 2009-14.

A golf course would be established in Mangalore on 135 acres near Tannirbhavi and tenders would be called soon. The golf course would be set up with the investment of private parties. Tenders would be called soon for the purpose, Mr Reddy said. Now there was no golf course in Mangalore.

He said IHM would set up its institutes in Bellary and Mangalore with an investment of Rs. 20 crore each. The Department has submitted proposals to IHM requesting it to set up institutes in Belgaum, Gulbarga and Bangalore. IHM would set up a Food Craft institute at Gadag and the State Government has approved the project.

He said the sound and music projects would be implemented at nine tourist places in Bidar, Bijapur, Chitradurga, Kittur, Hampi, Bellary, Pattadakal, Halebedu, and Srirangapatna with an investment of Rs. 18 crore. In 2009-10, it would be implemented in tourist palces in Bidar, Bijapur, Chitradurga, Kittur, Hampi, Bellary and Srirangapatna. Each project would cost Rs. two crore.

The Union Tourism Ministry has approved setting up of a Food Craft Centre at Hassan and the Centre has released Rs. two crore for it. A tourism training centre would be established at Belur in Hassan and it will have 30 rooms.

engineer.akash
November 26th, 2009, 01:47 PM
‘30 pc of space on the roads used for vehicle parking at present’

‘10 multi-storeyed parking complexes to be developed’

Mangalore: Nov 25, DHNS:

Minister for Urban Development, Law and Parliamentary Affairs S Suresh Kumar said at least 10 multi-storeyed parking complexes will be developed in the City limits in the days to come.


Addressing a press conference after inspecting various developmental works in the City Corporation limits on Wednesday, he said parking has proved a serious problem in Mangalore since the space meant of parking has been misused by the commercial complexes.

“About 30 per cent of space on the roads is being used for vehicle parking since the commercial complexes have not allotted necessary parking lots. One multi-level parking complex has already been approved for Hampankatta,” he said.

Action against officials
The minister said he would be getting a list of violators from the Deputy Commissioner soon, as per which action would be taken against the officials concerned.
“Clear instructions had been given to the officials an year ago regarding the building rules; yet they have been violated again,” he noted.

Suresh Kumar hinted that fines would be collected from the owners of the commercial complexes who have violated the regulations, which would in turn be used for developing new multi-level parking complexes.

High-level meeting
The minister said a top-level meeting would be held in Bangalore on November 30 or December 1 where solutions would be drawn to the problems related to the self assessment system (SAS) of taxation, transfer of development rights (TDR) and the woes of those having less than 5 cents land under the new master plan.
He said the common cadre and recruitment (C&R) rules are before the Finance Department for approval, which will be out soon.
Once the C&R rules are clear, transfer of staff from one city corporation to another will be made possible, he said.

JNNURM for M’lore?

Suresh Kumar said he had discussed with the Union Urban Development Minister Jaipal Reddy with an urged to include Mangalore in the Jawharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission (JNNURM).

“Presently, only Bangalore and Mysore have come under the scheme. Mangalore was excluded due to the rules regarding the population. Jaipal Reddy is expected to announce the names of more cities to be included in the scheme during the first anniversary of the JNNURM to be held in New Delhi on December 3. We hope that Mangalore will get a place,” he said.

Urban devt policy
The government has published the draft of the first ever Urban Development Policy of the State ten days ago which is available on www.urbanaffairs.in. A state-level workshop is being held at Mysore on December 6 where the heads and officials of the different City Corporations and City Municipal Councils will take part, he informed.
The final draft of the policy will be tabled before the State Cabinet by January 15, he added.

Civic workers
Answering a query, the minister said though there are 17,500 paura karmikas in the State working on a daily-wage basis, the ones in Mangalore do not come under them.
“Mangalore’s is a special case. A cabinet sub-committee led by PWD Minister C M Udasi is looking into the issue. An action will be taken on regularising their service on the basis of the committee’s recommendations,” he informed.

Minister for Primary and Secondary Education Vishweshwara Hegade Kageri, District-in-Charge Minister J Krishna Palemar, Mayor M Shanker Bhat and others were present on the occasion.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/37900/10-multi-storeyed-parking-complexes.html

^^ I hope they include mangalore in JNNURM......pllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

engineer.akash
November 26th, 2009, 02:25 PM
Rs 6 Cr allocated for DK District Court Complex, says Minister


Mangalore: Nov 25, DHNS:

Minister for Urban Development, Law and Parliamentary Affairs S Suresh Kumar said the third phase of the new district court complex will be commenced soon.


Addressing the members of Mangalore Bar Association here on Wednesday, he said the State government has already released Rs 6 crore for the purpose, and tenders will be invited soon.

In fact, the court buildings across the State need Rs 160 crore to Rs 170 crore for their repair or maintenance, but the total budgetary allocation for the present year is just Rs 10 crore. However, Rs 6 crore has been allotted for the DK district court complex, he informed.
Replying to a demand made by the advocates, the minister said he would try to revoke the income restriction for giving monthly stipend to the young advocates.

The advocates had demanded that the monthly stipend should be increased to Rs 3,000 for three years from the existing Rs 1,000 for two years, and the income restriction of Rs 40,000 should be eliminated completely.

Suresh Kumar also said he has plans to sanction notary positions only to disabled and helpless women advocates who are really in need of a source of livelihood.
He even revealed a plan of the government of launching a separate portal to make the court judgements and legislations accessible to the advocates practicing in any parts of the State.

MLA N Yogish Bhat, State Law Secretary Siddalingeshwar, Mangalore Bar Association President S P Changappa were present on the occasion.

Demands
* Fill vacancies of posts - judges, public prosecutors and court staff.
* Shift at least some courts from the MCC building to the completed parts of the new court complex.
* Declare the court premises silent zone.
* Establish permanent labour courts in all districts; provide permanent human rights court for Mangalore.
* Make stamp papers available.
* Solve problems in land registration.
* Take steps to provide loans from Nationalised banks at lower interest rate to younger advocates to begin their profession .
* High Court bench in Mangalore.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/37898/rs-6-cr-allocated-dk.html

engineer.akash
November 26th, 2009, 04:18 PM
bharat mall

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engineer.akash
November 26th, 2009, 04:29 PM
Source: DHNS

Nobody is talking about Lakya dam now.

Hubli-Dharwad, Belgaum and Gulbarga seems to be ahead of Mangalore in implementation of 24x7 water supply scheme. ('Kannada Ganga' project?)

Krsihnamoorthy its nice to know that NK cities are performing well on this front...:cheers:

Mangalore ofcourse leads in other areas..........like airport,roads,UGD

visnaya
November 26th, 2009, 05:30 PM
Few days bad I had been to mangalore. All National highways leading to managlore have gone bad. Udupi to mnagalore, mangalore to talapady and Mangalore to sakaleshpur.
All these roads are Non commutable. I request road travelers to avoid using roads and possible go by bus.

But once you enter mangalore all roads seems to be good (sply concreat roads).
Work is going on with full pace at Mangala devi road ( till old amrith theater), Bejai church to KPT.

Pumpwell Tar road recently constructed is in bad shape. this shows that Tar roads are not ment for mangalore

engineer.akash
November 26th, 2009, 05:35 PM
Few days bad I had been to mangalore. All National highways leading to managlore have gone bad. Udupi to mnagalore, mangalore to talapady and Mangalore to sakaleshpur.
All these roads are Non commutable. I request road travelers to avoid using roads and possible go by bus.

But once you enter mangalore all roads seems to be good (sply concreat roads).
Work is going on with full pace at Mangala devi road ( till old amrith theater), Bejai church to KPT.

Pumpwell Tar road recently constructed is in bad shape. this shows that Tar roads are not ment for mangalore

^^ Mangalore city is in malnad area??

if yes then agumbeya prema sanjaeya........namma malnad......:lol:

Krishnamoorthy K
November 26th, 2009, 05:54 PM
Mangalore, November 26: City Development Minister Suresh Kumar has come to Mangalore again to examine the development works which is a matter of delightment.

City is developing step by step. Roads are being concretized. But only the rich people who roam in cars are availing the benefit. The common people don’t have proper footpath to walk. While in few places cars are parked illegally on the footpath.

Traffic is creating lots of problems like that of Bangalore. Police, traffic and municipality officials all are care free. Main roads are concretized but who will reform inner roads and National highway which passes through the city?

Mangalore Municipality has won second award for the waste management at national level. But when we walk on the lane roads even the dustbin near by is unclean. They sweep here once in a month.

The life of people around Pacchanadi where wastes are being dumped has become worst. Land fill is technically under repair, but municipality officials are not ready to agree. Compost plant is also not working. Without any barriers hospital wastes are dumped here.

Even though the secretary of State Health Department Madan Gopal had organized meeting several times no precautionary measures were taken to control Malaria. Drainage water is seen flowing throughout the year. Municipality Health Department alone is enough to spoil the health and beauty of the city.

Can the concerned minister look into the matter is the question of every common man residing here.


Source: Surendra S Vagle, Udayavani (http://www.udayavani.com/showstory.asp?news=0&contentid=718977&lang=1)

Tumbay New Vented Dam: Survey to ascertain area that will be submerged (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/Survey-to-ascertain-area-that-will-be-submerged/articleshow/5269063.cms)

ananda.padebettu
November 26th, 2009, 06:47 PM
^^^^ Ananda I dint mean Junk to mangalore.............

For the time being atleast mangalore citizens can sigh a relief with KSRTC services..................Getting new buses is secondary.............What I am emphasing here is that there must be an end of exploitation by the private players........:)

Aakash,

This is not the problem of Private or KSRTC. It is the problem with the monopoly. I would say there should be a fair and equal chance for both Private and Public players.

The commuters will be benefited. Just take example of the Private and Government buses plying between Bangalore and Mangalore. There are so many. If you don't like private you have option of KSRTC. If you don't like Buses, you can settle for trains. Despite that suppse you don't like raod travel you can resort to flights.

How about having options. I firmly believe, our Railway system would have been far better and more competitive had it not been monopoly of Government. You can see the sea change in communication once once DoT was sidelined and private players were allowed to invest. Isn't it?

More the players better the service and consumers get benefited in every field.:cheers:

engineer.akash
November 26th, 2009, 06:57 PM
Your point is valid Ananda........ but what I feel is that If the private bus operators adhere to the rules and stop harassing the public only then can they qualify to operate along with KSRTC.what we are seeing in Mangalore is really atrocious :ohno:

KSRTC services are reliable and more professional than the private players......My own experience in a private bus............which was scheduled to leave from jayanagar,bengaluru to belgaum at 9:00 pm,as there was no volume in the bus those buggers resorted to cheap tactics..... they said bus is under repair and hoping only for passengers at eleventh hour........:bash:

ajay ramchandran
November 26th, 2009, 08:14 PM
Your point is valid Ananda........ but what I feel is that If the private bus operators adhere to the rules and stop harassing the public only then can they qualify to operate along with KSRTC.what we are seeing in Mangalore is really atrocious :ohno:

KSRTC services are reliable and more professional than the private players......My own experience in a private bus............which was scheduled to leave from jayanagar,bengaluru to belgaum at 9:00 pm,as there was no volume in the bus those buggers resorted to cheap tactics..... they said bus is under repair and hoping only for passengers at eleventh hour........:bash:

I prefer Private and KSRTC side by side. Unfortunately my experience with KSRTC has been bad but that was in 1980's and 1990's. Looks like things have improved .Private operators should be encouraged to buy low floor buses . Currently they pur more importance on beauty,DVD coaches etc which has less functional value.

engineer.akash
November 26th, 2009, 08:21 PM
I prefer Private and KSRTC side by side. Unfortunately my experience with KSRTC has been bad but that was in 1980's and 1990's. Looks like things have improved .Private operators should be encouraged to buy low floor buses . Currently they pur more importance on beauty,DVD coaches etc which has less functional value.

^^ Ajay KSRTC can provide halt facilities with their well maintained bus stands.be it the rest rooms,canteen etc etc..... which private players lack and can never provide............I have seen only VRL among the private players in the state to own huge bus stands of their own in important cities and provide excellent facilities at their stop........

coming to city buses..private players as you rightly said they spend un necessarily on DVD coaches,stupid interiors with eye sore colors painted and weird writings all over the bus body.......:bash: yuckkkkkkkkkkkkk

You can check out in KSRTC thread where I have posted few images of belgaum suvarna's which have been recently introduced I wish at least Mangalore had such buses on its roads apart from the sbcgsdmhcgmsvnm named private buses

avi mangalore
November 27th, 2009, 06:57 AM
private bus operators are really pioneers in road transport for the last 40 yrs in undivided d.k. its not easy to remove all these buses and implement govt buses, one reason is sentimental value attached including myself, another is employment, pvt buses are a source of employment to bus owners, all drivers, conductors, cleaners,
once govt buses are implemented where will all these peoplle go. as many are not fully educated, and to get employment in govt buses u require minimum education qualification.
regarding the functioning of private city buses in mangalore take the eg of route no 15 there is a bus in the duration of every 5 min and they drive at top neck speed, infact the talk of the town was that these bus drivers should be sent to formula 1 and can give schumacer a run for his money, if only there was a mechanism to regulate their speed, control and unhealthy competition, these buses are any day better, another route is no 27 these buses are owned by a single owner and the buses have automatic doors, easy entry/exit, and can give jnurm buses real competition.
another thing is that pvt buses of this region are finacially strong in the early yrs of 2000 when the bangalore mangalore road was good, the govt ran only 1 volvo bus, night service only, but pvt local players like ballal, sugama, durgamba. ideal tourist, ideal travels,vishal tourist, manjunath ran their volvos day and night betwn the 2 cities, now due to bad roads many stopped their services and diverted their buses to other routes, now the govt runs one of the highest no of volvos on this route,
similarly is the case of bombay mangalore route who have been providig excellent services from past 40 yrs , pvt operators like cannara pinto, anand, mahableshwara, southern tourist, vishal travels runs volvos between these 2 cities, infact vishal runs a multiaxle 10 wheel volvo btwn b'bay and mangalore now even ksrtc runs 3 volvo services to bombay and 1 service to pune
even when the govt opened the hubli dharwad route to pvt players , its is pvt bus operators under the name of bendre nagara sarige from undived d.k which are plying on their roads eg manjunath, navadurga, reshma, jain, mahaveera,apm, sri ganesh etc

to conclude we require both private as well as govt buses , which will result in a win, win situation for consumers but one thing is for sure pvt buses in mangalore are here for a long run

Krishnamoorthy K
November 27th, 2009, 07:27 AM
* Party threatens to get implementation stayed
* Approved in September, the plan is valid till 2021
* ‘New zonal regulations are unfavourable to the poor’

MANGALORE: Congress members in the Mangalore City Corporation council have threatened to obtain a stay from the Karnataka High Court against the implementation of the revised master plan for the Mangalore Local Planning Area.

The State Government on September 10 approved the revised master plan prepared by the Mangalore Urban Development Authority (MUDA). It is valid till 2021.

Addressing presspersons here on Thursday, Leader of the Opposition Harinath alleged that the zoning regulations under the master plan were not favourable to the poor and the middle class as far as building houses on small sites was concerned. People were therefore forced to purchase apartments. The master plan favoured only big builders.

He said that the council would hold its monthly meeting on Monday. The Congress would take a final decision on moving the court after the outcome of the debate in the council over the issue.

Mr. Harinath alleged that the MUDA had sent the final draft of the master plan to the Government unilaterally, without consulting the council of the city corporation. Since making people adhere to the zonal regulations was the responsibility of the city corporation, the MUDA authorities should have placed the draft before the council for discussion before sending it to the Government, he said. He said that now councillors had to face the wrath of the people because of certain drawbacks in the revised master plan.

He said the revised plan did not allow nursing homes and educational institutions in residential zones. It was allowed in the old plan. The revised plan had reduced the space allotted for shops and offices in residential zones from 50 sq. m to 20 sq. m. The revised plan did not allow basement car parking in sites measuring less than 250 sq. m. But Mangalore had an undulating landscape, unlike most of the other places in the State. He said the revised plan had not allowed cornice roof or weather shade on the terrace of a building. Since the rainfall in the region was heavy, this should be allowed, he said.



Harinath said the plan denies the poor and the middle class people the rights of constructing their own houses. He suggested that the Corporation can go to High Court against the implementation of the CDP.


Deputy Commissioner V Ponnuraj suggested that the MCC could invite the Director of Town Planning and conduct a discussion with him to clear any doubts. He said it is a wrong notion that the people with small sites (with 3 to 5 cents of land) cannot build their own houses as per the new CDP.



People are asking for right to construct house in 3 cents (1 cent is 100th of acre). Why they want to fix minimum land for house at 3 cents, why not 1 cent? Aren't there enough people who can afford to purchase 1 cent but not 3 cents?

As I already said if all start constructing independent houses with 3 cents or 5 cents of land then whole of Mangalore will be left with no trees one day. An independent house is always more costly compared to a flat with same facilities. If you combine small plots and form a bigger plot and construct multistoreyed appartmental houses then atleast some area can be left for trees and gardens. Why do people complain about big builders, why not they join hands to form cooperative housing society and construct 3 or 4 storeyed appartments? If they do that they can easily park their vehicles in basement unlike those people who have already constructed houses in 3 cents but parking their vehicles on footpath. (I thought footpath is for poor. Yes, it seems to be for poor people with 3 cents of land and a vehicle). It is disgusting to see houses constructed in small lands side by side without even space for opening window doors.

Valencia Road Development is stayed in court. KSRTC city bus project is stayed. Now a threat to stay Master Plan? Next, even Tumbay New Vented Dam will also be stayed? All development activities are getting stayed in court?

People are forming groups to oppose tree cutting. Sadly nobody is forming group for planting trees. They are now interested in cutting more trees for constructing independent houses.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 27th, 2009, 08:54 AM
private bus operators are really pioneers in road transport for the last 40 yrs in undivided d.k. its not easy to remove all these buses and implement govt buses, one reason is sentimental value attached including myself, another is employment, pvt buses are a source of employment to bus owners, all drivers, conductors, cleaners,
once govt buses are implemented where will all these peoplle go. as many are not fully educated, and to get employment in govt buses u require minimum education qualification.
regarding the functioning of private city buses in mangalore take the eg of route no 15 there is a bus in the duration of every 5 min and they drive at top neck speed, infact the talk of the town was that these bus drivers should be sent to formula 1 and can give schumacer a run for his money, if only there was a mechanism to regulate their speed, control and unhealthy competition, these buses are any day better, another route is no 27 these buses are owned by a single owner and the buses have automatic doors, easy entry/exit, and can give jnurm buses real competition.
another thing is that pvt buses of this region are finacially strong in the early yrs of 2000 when the bangalore mangalore road was good, the govt ran only 1 volvo bus, night service only, but pvt local players like ballal, sugama, durgamba. ideal tourist, ideal travels,vishal tourist, manjunath ran their volvos day and night betwn the 2 cities, now due to bad roads many stopped their services and diverted their buses to other routes, now the govt runs one of the highest no of volvos on this route,
similarly is the case of bombay mangalore route who have been providig excellent services from past 40 yrs , pvt operators like cannara pinto, anand, mahableshwara, southern tourist, vishal travels runs volvos between these 2 cities, infact vishal runs a multiaxle 10 wheel volvo btwn b'bay and mangalore now even ksrtc runs 3 volvo services to bombay and 1 service to pune
even when the govt opened the hubli dharwad route to pvt players , its is pvt bus operators under the name of bendre nagara sarige from undived d.k which are plying on their roads eg manjunath, navadurga, reshma, jain, mahaveera,apm, sri ganesh etc

to conclude we require both private as well as govt buses , which will result in a win, win situation for consumers but one thing is for sure pvt buses in mangalore are here for a long run

I have seen many times for long distance passangers private bus agents issuing tickets in excess of capacity of the bus, creating confusion and forcing passangers to travel in driver cabin using this kind of cheap tactics. Maintenance wise also KSRTC buses are much better, almost all private buses are infected with bed bugs. KSRTC buses rarely have this problem. KSRTC buses arrange for alternative buses in case of break down. They start in time and run in stipulated routes. In case of private buses when asked in Mangalore they would say that it will goto Indiranagar and then drop you near Majestic or some where else when Bangalore is reached. This is my personal experience and I agree that your experience may be different.

KSRTC also provides pass and other benefits which can not be compared with the student passes provided by private operators. In addition I think there is some kind of insurance for KSRTC travellers in case of accidents? Employee benefits are far better compared to private although there is a minimum educational requirements. (I think every citizen of India should have atleast education upto SSLC and in future when this is achieved every one will be eligible for a job in KSRTC.) I personally feel private bus operators should encourage their employees to complete some minimum educational level while working in case a employee do not have it while joining.

Anyway monopoly is not good. The option of travelling by KSRTC or private buses should be left to passengers. And private bus operators should allow government city buses to run on Mangalore roads.

engineer.akash
November 27th, 2009, 10:54 AM
^^ Avi Mangalore I agree fully with Krishnamoorthy.........

Mangalore needs KSRTC services,I am stunned to see futuristic IMTC's taking shape in my home town Mysore.
5 IMTC'S with 4 Satellite bus stands....wow.....:banana:.

Mangalore is way ahead of Mysore in almost every aspect barring a few,Any city which aspires to see itself as a world class(is too much for Indian cities though :lol:) or livable must have an efficient transport system.
Mangalore citizens are put in peril only to accept the harsh treatment meted out to the them.It must stop,and if many were to lose jobs incase of nationalization then those people can be accommodated in KSRTC in phases.
KSRTC has many concesions which you cannot expect from the private players,be it the student pass,senior citizen pass,disabled pass,ladies pass,etc etc

Mangalore needs KSRTC city services. The big 5 cities of karnataka are Bangalore>Hubli-Dharwad>Mangalore>Mysore>Belgaum and to the dismay the third biggest city does not have govt run city buses......... :nuts:

Do you like those yellow,pink,purple,mix of some horrendous colored buses to ply on mangalore roads or instead opt for light uniform colored buses??? :nuts:

ananda.padebettu
November 27th, 2009, 06:13 PM
^^ Avi Mangalore I agree fully with Krishnamoorthy.........

Mangalore needs KSRTC services,I am stunned to see futuristic IMTC's taking shape in my home town Mysore.
5 IMTC'S with 4 Satellite bus stands....wow.....:banana:.

Mangalore is way ahead of Mysore in almost every aspect barring a few,Any city which aspires to see itself as a world class(is too much for Indian cities though :lol:) or livable must have an efficient transport system.
Mangalore citizens are put in peril only to accept the harsh treatment meted out to the them.It must stop,and if many were to lose jobs incase of nationalization then those people can be accommodated in KSRTC in phases.
KSRTC has many concesions which you cannot expect from the private players,be it the student pass,senior citizen pass,disabled pass,ladies pass,etc etc

Mangalore needs KSRTC city services. The big 5 cities of karnataka are Bangalore>Hubli-Dharwad>Mangalore>Mysore>Belgaum and to the dismay the third biggest city does not have govt run city buses......... :nuts:

Do you like those yellow,pink,purple,mix of some horrendous colored buses to ply on mangalore roads or instead opt for light uniform colored buses??? :nuts:


Hi Aakash,

I understand your concerns. However the statistics given by you regarding the biggest cities looks wrong. If you look at population, Mangalore stands 4th (Urban Agglomeration) and interms of revenue generation Mangalore stands next only to Bangalore.

I am not sure about the parameters considered by you.

Uniform coloured buses are really good and it will give a descent look to the roads when they are plying. However colour selection should be done smartly. I live in Mumbai and I feel Mumbai's BEST Buses have not changed colour and shape since British left this city in 1947.

I like the colours of public transport buses at Singapore. They are unique and uniform. I heard similar excellent colouring of public transport is done by Sao Paulo Public Transport, Brazil also.

engineer.akash
November 27th, 2009, 06:24 PM
Hi Aakash,

I understand your concerns. However the statistics given by you regarding the biggest cities looks wrong. If you look at population, Mangalore stands 4th (Urban Agglomeration) and interms of revenue generation Mangalore stands next only to Bangalore.

I am not sure about the parameters considered by you.



Ananda Kindly check out the city's respective corporation websites,I considered the area of the city as a reference in my comment.

In terms of water supply,waste disposal,tourism,tranquility mysore is way ahead of mangalore...........and I doubt if mangalore stands next to bangalore in revenue generation,with tourism in mysore booming along with some surge in industries it might be a possible challenger to Mangalore.

banesh_c
November 27th, 2009, 08:59 PM
I have been silent viewer of Mangalore thread...I am an Mangalorean working in Bangalore.
The debate that runs in this thread is really good.
I was reading the debate between Akash and Anand...I would like to say...We cannot have a Mysore Palace in Mangalore neither we can have a beach in Mysore... both of these place are unique. Its like Anand cannot be Akash neither Akash can be Anand.
Rather we debate which is better... we should debate what needs to be done to bring the change (There would be lot of people reading our thread). Our thought process should be be how India grows...why I am saying this is because when we are out of India we are not known as Managalorean or Mysorean..rather we are recognized as an Indian.

One more thing...this is for Krishnamoorthy...[my family stays in Naguri (I was born and brought up here)]...there was plan for 4 lane the stretch between Padil and Pumpwell...my dad has recieved the update as our house is next to the NH48 (6-8 mts from NH48)...I think this stretch would be handed over to PWD once the NH upgrade is completed. If I get more updates I'll post it.

ajay ramchandran
November 27th, 2009, 09:22 PM
Ananda Kindly check out the city's respective corporation websites,I considered the area of the city as a reference in my comment.

In terms of water supply,waste disposal,tourism,tranquility mysore is way ahead of mangalore...........and I doubt if mangalore stands next to bangalore in revenue generation,with tourism in mysore booming along with some surge in industries it might be a possible challenger to Mangalore.


It is true that Mnagalore generates the second highest revenue but that I think is a boon the the state and country. Mysore has also its own charms ans so are other cities. Every city has its pluses and minuses. Our aim is to convert those minuses to pluses and maintain the pluses.

I have actually been out of the country for 12 years. It is in those 12 years lots of changes have happened in the country. I have also been a regluar lover of private bus services but have to admit that my experiences were in the past . So I really cannot argue for both .There was a propsal to introduce colo coding for Mangalore buses. I do not now what happened.

I think in terms of area Mangalore is the third biggest corporation but if you look at the popuylation it comes fourth. All of us have one common agenda ...to improve infrasture,quality of life for everyone in this country.Improve our cities . Does not matter if it is Bangalore Mysore or Mangalore.Accept the good things.

engineer.akash
November 27th, 2009, 09:47 PM
Thanx banesh and Ajay for your pan Indian approach :)

I just wanted to put forth my views that inspite of mangalore being such a strategic city for the state and hence our country, don't you guys think that it must have its own transport system which is well regulated and public friendly?
In our state there can be no other public transport corporation apart from KSRTC which can ensure indeed much better facilities for mangaloreans than the present private operatorsI don't live in mangalore to actually comment on the highs and lows of its bus services operated by the privates,but I am confident that public player like the KSRTC can do best in Mangalore.
I am hopeful that KSRTC sets its foot in the city services arena also.

I made the comparison about the city size only because buses are the only option as a mode of transport for the cities at present,they can pervade anywhere in the city.With mangalore being the third largest it definitely needs more homogeneous well coordinated bus transport system.

:)

ananda.padebettu
November 28th, 2009, 06:15 AM
It is true that Mnagalore generates the second highest revenue but that I think is a boon the the state and country. Mysore has also its own charms ans so are other cities. Every city has its pluses and minuses. Our aim is to convert those minuses to pluses and maintain the pluses.

I have actually been out of the country for 12 years. It is in those 12 years lots of changes have happened in the country. I have also been a regluar lover of private bus services but have to admit that my experiences were in the past . So I really cannot argue for both .There was a propsal to introduce colo coding for Mangalore buses. I do not now what happened.

I think in terms of area Mangalore is the third biggest corporation but if you look at the popuylation it comes fourth. All of us have one common agenda ...to improve infrasture,quality of life for everyone in this country.Improve our cities . Does not matter if it is Bangalore Mysore or Mangalore.Accept the good things.


Aaksh/Ajay/Banesh

It's nice to see you all debating on an issue, which is of some use for the people. As Ajay/Banesh rightly pointed out Mysore can't be Mangalore and vice versa also is not possible. In my view Mysore has it's own charm which is unmatched as far as slow lifestyle is considered.

I wanted to know on what basis Mangalore had been stated as 3rd largest by Akash, the same has been cleared by him.

Regarding the Revenue generation I have valid point here. I agree with Akash's stand of Tourism revenue, where Mangalore may not be able to beat Mysore in near future.

However, the Managlore port is the 9th largest in India and it has recorded increase in profit year on year that has led to phenomenal revenue generation in the recent years. There are Huge industries around Mangalore like MCF, MRPL, BASF, SEZs (around 4 of them are coming up and will be operational next year), an International airport with Cargo Handling facility, which will bring in revenue of huge chunk.

Unlike IT inductry, where people sit at one place and work, Mega industires like MRPL and MCF will bring in revenue from all angles. They need transportation of goods from one place to another, go-downs, distribution systems, support etc. Each of these options are an opportunity for income generation to the Government in terms of Taxes.

Now, let me illustrate the same through another example. Despite so much of IT and Tourism in Bangalore, it could not beat Mumbai in Revenue generation. It is because the financial back bones like Banking Financial industry, Stock markets, Ports, Huge refineries etc. are still in Mumbai and I don't think any other city can snatch the position of 'commercial capital' from Mumbai. Although NCR took over the title for a brief period, Mumbai alone had made it up again. If you include satellite towns, in fact there is no match for Mumbai as far as profit given to the government. This is how the revenue is generated.

Be it Mumbai, or any other city. So called commercial cities of the world have ports, except London and Tokyo. Consider New York, Singapore, Hong Kong, Dubai, Reo, Shanghai etc. If I am not wrong the reveue generated through ports can be higher than any other forms of revenue.

:cheers:

Krishnamoorthy K
November 28th, 2009, 07:38 AM
BANGALORE November 26, 2009: The Western Ghats Task Force has decided to chalk out a comprehensive plan for protecting the coastal bio-diversity and marine life in Karnataka.

The ecology of the three coastal districts - Dakshina Kananda, Udupi and Uttara Kannada would be protected by preparing a plan and implementing it. Several power and chemical industries in the region has damaged ecological imbalances in the region, Task Force Chairman Ananth Hegde Ashisara said.

Mangalore Chemical Fertilizers, Nagajuna Power Company, MRPL and naval ship yard at Uttara Kannada and several other proposed projects would destroy the rich fauna and flora if the steps were not taken.

The Centre for Ecological Studies of Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, has been asked to conduct a study on carrying capacity of the Uttara Kananda district. Several industrial and defence projects has threatened the ecological balance in the district.

Speaking to presspersons here, he said the Task Force has opposed, in no uncertain terms, the 400-MW Gundia hydroelectric project planned in the heart of the Western Ghats. The Coastal Development Authority headed B Nagaraj Shetty, former minister, too had been preparing a plan to develop infrastructure in three coastal districts of Karnataka.

A meeting of environmentalists and officials of various government departments has been convened at Honnavar in Uttara Kananda district on January 1, 2010, for discussing strategies to be adopted for protection of the coast and bio-diversity in three districts.

Mr Ashisara, environmentalists, said that the task force, an initiative of the State Government with the objective of conservation of the Western Ghats, had communicated its stand to the Government and stressed on the impact of the project on the environment and ecology of the ghats, especially the irreversible damage to biodiversity, in its report to the Government.

A sum of Rs one crore has been released to the Task Force to develop 50 villages in the Malnad region as “green villages”. The “green villages” would be provided with solar energy and bio-fuel, he said.

The Western Ghats is listed one of the 18 biodiversity hotspots in the world. The task force had also opposed proposed power projects in Hanakon and Tadadi in Uttar Kannada district. "It is mandatory for the Government to abide by the laws framed for the conservation of forests and the environment," he said.

He said steps would be taken to revive Hoskere tank at a village near Kengeri on the outskirts of Bangalore with an estimated cost of Rs. 30 lakh. He said a meeting of the Task Force was held on Wednesday and took several decisions for protection of environment. A forest committee has been formed to develop 800 acres Hoskerehalli tank by recovering encroached lands and developing a medicinal park. The Forest Department has commenced a survey to recover the encroached tank-bed, he said.

The Dandeli West Coast Paper Mills has been causing damage to the environment and the Karnataka State Pollution Control Board has been asked to study the causes for acid rains in the region, the chairman said. He said the acid rainfall was reported twice in the last month due to the operations of Dandeli West Coast Paper Mills. Stating that this was a serious cause for further destruction of bio-diversity of Western Ghats, he said he had instructed the State Pollution Control Board to take suitable action against the factory for releasing affluents in the Kali river.

It was also decided to declare Hogarekanugiri in Chikamagalore district of Karnataka as a Natural Heritage site known for its biodiversity, he added.

A conference of scientists would be convened in Bangalore in January and village forest committees’ meet would be convened in Mysore, Sringeri and Gulbarga soon, the task force chief said.


Source: Mangalorean (http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=157479)

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2009, 11:11 AM
Aaksh/Ajay/Banesh

It's nice to see you all debating on an issue, which is of some use for the people. As Ajay/Banesh rightly pointed out Mysore can't be Mangalore and vice versa also is not possible. In my view Mysore has it's own charm which is unmatched as far as slow lifestyle is considered.

I wanted to know on what basis Mangalore had been stated as 3rd largest by Akash, the same has been cleared by him.

Regarding the Revenue generation I have valid point here. I agree with Akash's stand of Tourism revenue, where Mangalore may not be able to beat Mysore in near future.

However, the Managlore port is the 9th largest in India and it has recorded increase in profit year on year that has led to phenomenal revenue generation in the recent years. There are Huge industries around Mangalore like MCF, MRPL, BASF, SEZs (around 4 of them are coming up and will be operational next year), an International airport with Cargo Handling facility, which will bring in revenue of huge chunk.

Unlike IT inductry, where people sit at one place and work, Mega industires like MRPL and MCF will bring in revenue from all angles. They need transportation of goods from one place to another, go-downs, distribution systems, support etc. Each of these options are an opportunity for income generation to the Government in terms of Taxes.


:cheers:

Hi Ananada

I agree to all your points,Revenue generated by core sector is more worthy than the software sector.
Our main topic of debate was the need for Mangalore to have an efficient transport system clothed with people's needs in mind.
I only made the point of mangalore being 3 biggest in terms of area,because the only mode of transport in our cities being roadways,and buses can actually penetrate/pervade deep into the city.

When other cities in Karnataka i.e Mysore and Belgaum which stand at 4 and 5 th place in terms of area have their own public transport system,then Why not Mangalore???
What is it that is holding it from having a transport of its own??

My experience I have a close friend from Mangalore who always cribs that govt is doing all only to Mysore,shimoga while neglecting mangalore.
He passes that comment whenever he sits in Mysore's Vaibhav(Volvo's) and when he steps down at Mysore's new city bus stand.

I bluntly reply back saying it is you people who have shooed away the state govt Transport corporation and so you people have no right to claim KSRTC services now.And again a heated debate follows between me and him.:lol:

Then politicians along with the citizens and private players opposed KSRTC and now they complain of tyranny.

It is the people who are to be blamed who never raised their voice for their basic needs.

Being a bit more assertive: may be bitter for some here

Mangalore has always seen migration and loads of black money from the middle east and some underworld operatives in Mumbai,People i.e localities never cared for the state(PLz don't cite banks and other services) nor the city so did the state govt reciprocate appropriately by neglecting the coastal town.What I mean here is the people dint consolidate their needs at the right time rather just left the place for better offers.

Cities like Mysore havea strong citizen forums which take the public's grievance's to the govt directly.My only point is that Mangalore lacked this.

Else, I respect Mangaloreans for all they have contributed to the state be it in the banking sector,education,film industry(bollywood though :lol:),heavy industries....etc etc

I have had this discussion a billion times with my close friend.who more or less agrees to my points lets see how many here accept my stance.

ajay ramchandran
November 28th, 2009, 12:27 PM
Thanks for the healthy debates. It is good to have these debates and have more people come forward with their view point. Has anyone thought about the TN model where there is some form of support for Private players from the govt.Here in Birmigham and generally all over UK the public transport is owned by govt but there are private players as well. The difference is that whatever benefot people get in govt owned buses is passed by private operators, If you are eligible for free travel like those above 65 ,disabled etc or if you have a day card...free travel anywhere anytime in the city is extended in private buses as well.But the number of private buses is very small. Train services were privatised several years ago but that was something like a failure in the UK and fares continue to be very very high.But then UK is a welfare state unlike India or US.Health is free for anyone irrespective of your status,jobless people get benefits,people with certain condition get free px,I get free eye checkup because my mother has glaucoma!

Mangalore has always been an affluent city...apart from the nefarious activities of a minority which on one should generalise.The proprtion to people having a vehicle ...vehicle owning density whether it is two wheelers or four wheelers has always been one of the highest in the country not just now but from the olden times.So I think not much attention was paid to building big bus terminals etc. Moreover the frequency in most routes were very good. So people were happy and life went on.I still remember in 1990's there was one bus every minute to Udupi so much that some companies started giving 50% reduction.60 buses in one hr ,600 buses in 10 hrs and that meant 1200 buses in 10 years both ways ...and this was on just one route. I do not think any other city in India could match this.Anyway times have changed and it is important to move on....

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2009, 12:49 PM
^^ Ajay agreed that Mangalore is affluent,but that doesn't mean every average incomed person own a car.

What about the Common person,who cares??......this attitude will do no good.

In coming decades governments all over the world will think of encouraging mass transport system,there is nothing great about individuals owning 4 wheelers,it is the need of the hour that public transport be encouraged.
Gone are those days when owning a 4 wheeler was considered to be symbol of affluence.

More cars means more roads will get clogged and more pollution.

And the private-public type combo model is a big time failure.

I just want to say KSRTC can cater to Mangalore's needs very efficiently. As it has proven in Mysore atleast.I have been using KSRTC city services since my childhood and I think they are the best in their field.

ajay ramchandran
November 28th, 2009, 01:43 PM
^^ Ajay agreed that Mangalore is affluent,but that doesn't mean every average incomed person own a car.

What about the Common person,who cares??......this attitude will do no good.

In coming decades governments all over the world will think of encouraging mass transport system,there is nothing great about individuals owning 4 wheelers,it is the need of the hour that public transport be encouraged.
Gone are those days when owning a 4 wheeler was considered to be symbol of affluence.

More cars means more roads will get clogged and more pollution.

And the private-public type combo model is a big time failure.

I just want to say KSRTC can cater to Mangalore's needs very efficiently. As it has proven in Mysore atleast.I have been using KSRTC city services since my childhood and I think they are the best in their field.


I am all for public transport and people leaving behind their cars...I WAS only citing it as a Probable reason why people did not care much about public transport. I think the Karnataka govt is partly to blame for neglecting public services in Mangalore. I am all for the common person. If the govt has the will power let them introduce KSRTC services. Time to move on.....to the next debate

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2009, 01:48 PM
I am all for public transport and people leaving behind their cars...I am only citing it as a reason why people did not care much about public transport. I think the Karnataka govt is partly to blame for neglecting public services in Mangalore. Sadly in the UK public transport is non existent ..except London!

yes Ajay I understood your point. :)

Karnataka govt did propose KSRTC services in Canara region,but it was the public along with politicians who taunted at the KSRTC calling its buses "Bucket of bolts" but now they are crying for help.

I don't blame the Govt at all.

ajay ramchandran
November 28th, 2009, 01:51 PM
^^ Ajay agreed that Mangalore is affluent,but that doesn't mean every average incomed person own a car.

What about the Common person,who cares??......this attitude will do no good.

In coming decades governments all over the world will think of encouraging mass transport system,there is nothing great about individuals owning 4 wheelers,it is the need of the hour that public transport be encouraged.
Gone are those days when owning a 4 wheeler was considered to be symbol of affluence.

More cars means more roads will get clogged and more pollution.

And the private-public type combo model is a big time failure.

I just want to say KSRTC can cater to Mangalore's needs very efficiently. As it has proven in Mysore atleast.I have been using KSRTC city services since my childhood and I think they are the best in their field.

aKASH
Is there an evidence to show that the COMBO MODEL IS A FAILURE?

ajay ramchandran
November 28th, 2009, 02:04 PM
yes Ajay I understood your point. :)

Karnataka govt did propose KSRTC services in Canara region,but it was the public along with politicians who taunted at the KSRTC calling its buses "Bucket of bolts" but now they are crying for help.

I don't blame the Govt at all.

Why not. KSRTC at one stage was the most corrupt part of the govt. just like PWD.When I was working in Bangalore in 1990's my experience with city services there were horrendous..one such experience is enough to make up my mind.

I am not suggesting that everyone in DK has cars .In mangalore city it is close to 30% .During those days Private buses were meeting the demands and so there was no need for KSRTC which already had a bad reputation but things have changed now...I do not think any one is crying or begging the govt.Successive govts in Bangalore neglected sOUTH kaNARA BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT MANY POLITICANS from south Kanara weilding influence in Bangalore..The situation has changed now .Sadly that is the truth and reality.

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Ajay I really can't give you evidence on paper but its my experience as I have stayed in Trichy for 4 years and I commuted regularly between NIT trichy and city.

I did travel in govt owned buses and the combo buses.
I realized a stark difference between Govt owned buses and private -govt combo the former had a strict schedule which they had to adhere to.
The later was obliged to adhere only to the govt's pricing but were on the higher side, the route selection was the privates choice,buses operated only on main routes,they took longer routes mostly zig zag,playing loud music,rash driving,dirty,trying to maximise trips,none of my friends loved to travel in these combo buses they were very poorly maintained.

I still cherish my travel in the SETC'S 128 route :cheers: which maintained perfect timings............anyone there to dispute my fact that at 8:30 pm sharp 128 stopped at the NIT trichy gate.............

(drivers of SETC wore Blue uniform and looked more professional unlike the private ones.)

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2009, 02:21 PM
Why not. KSRTC at one stage was the most corrupt part of the govt. just like PWD.When I was working in Bangalore in 1990's my experience with city services there were horrendous..one such experience is enough to make up my mind.

I am not suggesting that everyone in DK has cars .In mangalore city it is close to 30% .During those days Private buses were meeting the demands and so there was no need for KSRTC which already had a bad reputation but things have changed now...I do not think any one is crying or begging the govt.Successive govts in Bangalore neglected sOUTH kaNARA BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT MANY POLITICANS from south Kanara weilding influence in Bangalore..The situation has changed now .Sadly that is the truth and reality.

Ajay I don't understand why you all still have a notion that private players only can give the best to the citizens.

Public transport systems are meant for the public's needs and not for profits.
It is a universal fact.

KSRTC has changed a lot,they have proven not only in their transport services but have also excelled in body building,workshops.

I bet those private players would mostly be operating on major routes and it is only KSRTC which is penetrating deep into the rural areas/non lucrative routes.
Believe me KSRTC can be a boon for Mangalore.It is high time that the private players licenses be canceled and the public embraces KSRTC. :)

And I am not for public and private players operating in conjunction.

It is not a healthy scene for a city where there is competition on the road between private and public.

Ajay to tell the truth I have had the worst experience in Mangalore while on way to NIT K for my AIEEE counseling.It started raining heavily and the windows were totally in bad shape the bus started to leak. And adding to the woes more people only ended up getting into the bus I was almost like choked.:ohno:

The height of the bus floor was too much,windows were not horizontally sliding ones but vertically ones which needed a support to hold it in place I found those supports broken. And horrible braking system. :cheers:

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2009, 02:45 PM
Palemar threatens bus operators with nationalization of routes
TNN 24 November 2009, 10:23pm IST

MANGALORE: Cooperate or face nationalization of bus routes was the terse message from district in-charge minister J Krishna Palemar to private
bus operators here on Tuesday. Palemar, irked by complaints faced by the commuting public due to non-adherence of permit conditions and them legally challenging decisions taken at the local RTA, observed that there can be nothing more important than ensuring the larger good of people.

Chairing the quarterly Karnataka Development Programmes review meeting, Palemar instructed DC V Ponnuraj, who is also the chairman of the RTA to thrash out all outstanding issues with representatives of the Canara Bus Operators Association within a fortnight. If the bus operators do not give up their confrontational path, the government will be left with no option but to nationalize bus routes in Dakshina Kannada.

Palemar later told reporters that the government keeping in mind interests of people here has permitted private and KSRTC buses to operate simultaneously. ``However, private bus operators continue to thwart our efforts to provide qualitative transport services to people and this is bringing a bad name to the government,'' he said. Private bus operators know the steps that they need to take to end this deadlock, Palemar hinted.

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The DC earlier informed that private bus operators do not adhere to the permit conditions. The operators either do not operate on the route given to them or cut short their trips, causing a whole lot of inconvenience to people. In some cases, people are forced to travel on rooftops to reach the city for their business, he said. Mayor M Shankar Bhat said residents of Bajal and Padil in the city acutely feel this problem.

“The bus operators have effectively tied down my hands in issuing new bus permits by getting a stay on route formation carried out by transport department. The administration will represent the matter to the transport commissioner,'' he said adding that as per the Motor Vehicles Act, there is a need to clearly demarcate the routes that are nationalized and those that are mixed routes and the same was done in the route formation exercise.

Palemar clarified that if the bus operators refuse to budge and continue to remain defiant, the administration would request the state government as per a resolution adopted at the meeting to nationalize the bus routes in the district. There is no question of allowing for this mixed operational mode to continue under such adverse circumstances, he said, directing the DC to act on the resolution forthwith.


Bus drivers, owners responsible for rash driving: DC
TNN 20 November 2009, 10:18pm IST

MANGALORE: The tragic road accident at Uppunda in Udupi district which claimed 11 lives on Thursday night has prompted the DK district
administration to think of regulating the transport sector here.

DC V Ponnuraj said a proposal to install GPS-based monitoring system, especially for buses, would be mooted at the next RTA meeting. Describing the Uppunda accident as one of the worst incidents in recent times, he said this is a clear example of rashness exhibited by drivers. "The bus owners have no control over the manner in which their drivers go about conducting themselves on road, and any attempts to bring in a sense of discipline leads to a high attrition rate, which further affects the transport industry," he noted.

Noting that a similar attempt to go in for such a system had met with limited success during his tenure as Udupi DC, Ponnuraj said there is no reason for bus operators to resist it now. The regional transport authority and the police will have the control units, he said adding that it will help authorities generate records on the manner in which a bus has travelled during a particular trip and facilitate them to take action on errant drivers.

The DC said it will also help the RTA to check for permit and route violations that bus operators indulge in.

The DC admitted that efforts by the RTA to introduce city bus service through KSRTC had run into legal hurdles, courtesy a move by the local bus operators challenging the route formation released by the government five months ago before the state high court.

The bus operators here have almost become policy makers, enforcing their writ either through the courts or through the government, he said adding that the RTA is not in a position to issue new permits unless the stay granted by the high court on the route formation is disposed of. On the issue of RTA meetings not being held of late, DC retorted, "What is left to discuss when all important issues are held up in the courts!"



Many such stories exist what more can I say?? Aren't the people almost begging for better services,Ajay??? :)

avi mangalore
November 28th, 2009, 03:27 PM
okay guys lets wait and see how ksrtc perform in mangalore

ajay ramchandran
November 28th, 2009, 03:57 PM
Many such stories exist what more can I say?? Aren't the people almost begging for better services,Ajay??? :)

Akash I appreciate your concerns for Mangaloreans .Thanks for that.

I am fine for KSRTC to invade Mangalore. I was only speaking of my past experiences. Jut like you have had bad experiences with Private buses I have bad experiences with KSRTC. Now after reading what you have written it appears thar KSRTC has been totally rejuvenated. Let them run 2000 brand new buses in Mangalore. After all they are for public service!Let Mangaloreans get the benefit of doubt.

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2009, 04:53 PM
Akash I appreciate your concerns for Mangaloreans .Thanks for that.

I am fine for KSRTC to invade Mangalore. I was only speaking of my past experiences. Jut like you have had bad experiences with Private buses I have bad experiences with KSRTC. Now after reading what you have written it appears thar KSRTC has been totally rejuvenated. Let them run 2000 brand new buses in Mangalore. After all they are for public service!Let Mangaloreans get the benefit of doubt.

Thanx :)

When Govt is doing something good for dakshin Kannada which has been neglected so far,I don't want DK to miss the opportunity.

& I don't want my close friend to crib again that Karnataka govt has done nothing to DK.:lol:

ajay ramchandran
November 28th, 2009, 05:19 PM
Mangalore: JK Cement Ltd’s Architect of the Year Awards Announced
Pics: Dayanand Kukkaje
Daijiworld Media Network - Mangalore (RS/SB)

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=68908

Mangalore, Nov 27: The winners of the 19th Architect of the Year Awards (AYA) instituted by JK Cement Ltd were announced at a ceremony held at TMA Pai International Convention Centre on Friday November 27.

Architect Krishna Rao Jaisim, eminent architect and member of the jury announced the winners at the programme. Thanking his colleagues in jury panel he said that it was a greatest pleasure and privilege to work with them.

Eminent architect based in city, Sanath Kumar Shetty, professional advisor for the 19th AYA introduced the juries and also congratulated the JK Cement Ltd for instituting this award.

Architects Nela De Zoysa (Sri Lanka) Swarup G Koney (Nepal) Punita J Mehta (Varoda) Sandeep Kumar Jha (Ranchi) Yathin Pandya (Ahmedabad) Dr S Ramesh (New Delhi), Girish Doshi (Pune) and L K Binzzani (Indore) were the jury members.

M P Rawal, administrator of AYA proposed the vote of thanks and congratulated the winners and the participants.
Winners’ List

Indian Architecture Awards

Under Indian Architecture Awards (IAA), Architect of the Year Award was announced to be conferred on Sanjay Puri of Mumbai for his project, Triose at Lonawala in Mumbai.

Commendation Awards Under IAA

Under Private Residence category, Girish Dariyaav Karnawat, Mangalore has been selected for his project Aqua House in Goa.

Under Public Building category, Kiran Venkatesh of Bangalore has been selected for his project, National Assessment and accreditation Council in Bangalore,

Under Excellence in use of Construction Material (EC) category, P Krishnaraj, Bangalore has been selected for his project, Halikanu Mane in Bangalore

Under Educational Campus category, Christopher Charles Benniger of Pune has been selected for his project Samudra Institute of Maritime Studies in Lonavala.

Smaran Mallesh of Bangalore has been selected for his project, Out of the Box, in Bangalore and will be conferred Young Architect’s Award.

Indian State Architecture Awards

Under Indian State Architecture Awards (ISAA) under which Maharashtra and Gujarat states are eligible the following are selected for the awards

State Architect of The Year Award has been announced to be conferred on Kishore N Trivedi of Rajkot for his project IPSA, School of Architecture in Rajkot

State Commendation Award has been announced to be conferred on Uday Andhare of Ahmedabad for his project Koba House at Koba in Gujarat

State Young Architect’ Award has been announced to be conferred on Deepak Guggari of Pune for his project, Grid House Pune.

Focus Countries’ Architecture Awards

Focus Countries’ Architect of Year Award has been announced to be conferred on Alister Macbeth of Mauritus for his project Anahita Village in Mauritius

Focus Countries’ Commendation Award has been announced to be conferred on Palinda Kannagara of Srilanka for his project VS Turbo Pvt Ltd in Srilanka.

Focus Countries’ Young Architect Award has been announced to be conferred on Peshali Mandara Perera of Srilanka for the project Random Rust in Srilanka.



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ajay ramchandran
November 28th, 2009, 05:58 PM
KSRTC had a chance to win the confidence of Mangalore public. I would like to share it with you.The KSRTC had a monopoly on Mangalore- Puttur route and there were no private players until recently. This was a big experiment of KSRTC which failed badly. The Mangalore Puttur route was so badly run by KSRTC that for many years taxis had to ply every five minutes from Hampankatta whith people filled inside it like cattles! This happened because KSRTC was so inefficient and provided poor service. Guess you all know what happened ...I think few years ago the govt gave permission for private buses on this route. I think the facts are right. If I am wrong please do not hestitate to correct me.

Had the KSRTC provided good servic on the route may be that would have woken up up the private players.This is the story of KSRTC in Dakshina Kannada!

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2009, 06:42 PM
Ajay, I am not from Mangalore so don't know much about the services which have been undertaken by KSRTC and their response.Lets wait for KSRTC to start its city services and lets see how people will take it. :)

Krishnamoorthy K
November 28th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Ajay, I am not finding those taxis or cars now a days. They used to be there near wenlock hospital, hampanakatte busstop, bavutagudde, etc. I am not sure whether they have totally disappeared.

ajay ramchandran
November 28th, 2009, 07:43 PM
THE MANGALORE PROJECT PAGE WILL REACH TRIPLE FIGURES SOON...THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.....MORE PICTURES REQUIRED FOR THE 100'TH PAGE !

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2009, 10:22 PM
THE MANGALORE PROJECT PAGE WILL REACH TRIPLE FIGURES SOON...THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.....MORE PICTURES REQUIRED FOR THE 100'TH PAGE !

Great observation Ajay,I shall post some interesting pics of Mangalore from the Mangalore cityscapes thread as this thread has proven better than the latter one.:) You once had requested for it......As a celebration for all Mangaloreans I dedicate this post :)

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ajay ramchandran
November 29th, 2009, 01:07 AM
Thanks Akash for that!

ajay ramchandran
November 29th, 2009, 01:16 AM
Underpass to come up on Padil-Bajal road

http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/29/stories/2009112959400300.htm



Special Correspondent



Construction likely to begin in four months.Gate at the level-crossing is closed five times

an hour’

Corporation has earmarked Rs. 1 crore for

the project


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FREQUENT PROBLEM: Vehicles waiting for the train to pass at the railway level-crossing at Padil in Mangalore on Saturday.

MANGALORE: The travails of people using the Padil-Bajal road appear to be nearing an end as the Ministry of Railways has approved the construction of an underpass (road under-bridge) at the manned level-crossing there. Construction is likely to begin in three to four months.

Southern Railway has written to Nalin Kumar Kateel, MP, that the proposal to construct an underpass had been included in the list of approved works for 2009-10. This comes after protests from people demanding measures to ensure smooth flow of traffic. Since the gate is closed frequently, the public, particularly students and office-goers, are put to hardship.

Common grouse


“We have suffered a lot,” said Pradeep Kulal, an executive in an IT company. Stating that the railway gate was closed at least five to six times an hour, he said a bridge must come up at the spot immediately and at any cost. It should have been constructed at least four years ago, he added.

Another road-user said, “People of Faisalnagar, Veerangar, Bajal and Jelligudde have a horrible time because authorities have not provided a bridge despite repeated requests and agitations.”

Mayor M. Shankar Bhat admitted that the people in the area had been suffering and he too had demanded a bridge at the level-crossing. The corporation had earmarked Rs. 1 crore for the project already, he said.Mr. Kateel had written to Minister of State for Railways K.H. Muniyappa in June and to the Railway Board Chairman in September highlighting the plight of the people. He had pointed out that more than 40,000 people were living in the vicinity of the level-crossing.

Mr. Kateel pointed out that the State Government had agreed to share the cost of the underpass and had sought the inclusion of the work in projects for 2006-07.

Krishnamoorthy K
November 29th, 2009, 06:32 AM
^^ A few more railway overbridges or underpasses are required - Pandeshwar-Mangaladevi road near GSI, Jeppu, etc.

First thread in Karnataka forum to reach century. I am hoping for a few big projects to come up in this page.


One more thing...this is for Krishnamoorthy...[my family stays in Naguri (I was born and brought up here)]...there was plan for 4 lane the stretch between Padil and Pumpwell...my dad has recieved the update as our house is next to the NH48 (6-8 mts from NH48)...I think this stretch would be handed over to PWD once the NH upgrade is completed. If I get more updates I'll post it.

Thanks banesh for information.

avi mangalore
November 29th, 2009, 06:53 AM
regarding revenue i surely agree that mangalore generates the second highest revenue after bangalore for the state, the mega industries, sea port airport etc, infact the mangalore r.t.o contributes second highest no of new vehicles to the state,
in earlier yrs the electricity board of karnataka was called K.E.B it was further subdivided into 4 subdivisions, bangalore electric supply co, mangalore electric supply co , hubli electric supply co, gulbarga electric supply co, the mysore city came under mangalore division b'cause mangalore consumed more electricity than mysore, then due to political reasons mysore got its own division in the name of chamundeswari electric supply co

even in automibles sector mangaloreans always have the latest top end cars , with mercedes having an authorised service station, and bmw searching for a location for its service center, yesertday an buisnessman purchased a top end hummer, one of the first in the state, it is stated to be shown on tv9 news channel today

the main thing mangloreans urge for is for a seperate railway division and to merge it with southwestern railway, at present mangalore is in southern railway and highly neglected, the 3 major stations mangalore central, mangalore junction and panambur harbour yard are the highest revenue earners for palghat divsion under which it is, hence the urge for a seperate division is now gaining momentum and i am a firm supporter for it.

avi mangalore
November 29th, 2009, 07:02 AM
Ajay, I am not finding those taxis or cars now a days. They used to be there near wenlock hospital, hampanakatte busstop, bavutagudde, etc. I am not sure whether they have totally disappeared.

u will not find these cars as like before in large numbers, they are present only in small numbers, after govt allowed the mangalore- b.c road for pvt buses, pvt operators started offering good services,and to compete with that govt started plying more buses, now u have a bus in every 5 min duration, hence taxis ran out of buisness



congratulations to everybody on completing the 100 mark :banana::banana:

ajay ramchandran
November 29th, 2009, 10:26 AM
u will not find these cars as like before in large numbers, they are present only in small numbers, after govt allowed the mangalore- b.c road for pvt buses, pvt operators started offering good services,and to compete with that govt started plying more buses, now u have a bus in every 5 min duration, hence taxis ran out of buisness



congratulations to everybody on completing the 100 mark :banana::banana:

I need one favour please. Could anyone in Mangalore visit any of the big builders ,estate agents and request for snaps of upcoming projects. There are hundreds of projects coming up but everything seems to be under wraps. Are they afraid to divulge details due to the strict NBC prevailing in Mangalore. I am surprised that there are not so strict in neighbouring Kerala. Is this NBC not an all India rule?Comments please

ajay ramchandran
November 29th, 2009, 10:43 AM
regarding revenue i surely agree that mangalore generates the second highest revenue after bangalore for the state, the mega industries, sea port airport etc, infact the mangalore r.t.o contributes second highest no of new vehicles to the state,
in earlier yrs the electricity board of karnataka was called K.E.B it was further subdivided into 4 subdivisions, bangalore electric supply co, mangalore electric supply co , hubli electric supply co, gulbarga electric supply co, the mysore city came under mangalore division b'cause mangalore consumed more electricity than mysore, then due to political reasons mysore got its own division in the name of chamundeswari electric supply co

even in automibles sector mangaloreans always have the latest top end cars , with mercedes having an authorised service station, and bmw searching for a location for its service center, yesertday an buisnessman purchased a top end hummer, one of the first in the state, it is stated to be shown on tv9 news channel today

the main thing mangloreans urge for is for a seperate railway division and to merge it with southwestern railway, at present mangalore is in southern railway and highly neglected, the 3 major stations mangalore central, mangalore junction and panambur harbour yard are the highest revenue earners for palghat divsion under which it is, hence the urge for a seperate division is now gaining momentum and i am a firm supporter for it.

A very high percentage of Plaghat revenue comes from Mangalore ....mainly from freight traffic.It is laso true that Mangalore contributes the largest revenue to the state after Bangalore and it is no surprise as it has a port, and other mega industries. The govt should have invested heavily in Mangalore about 30 years. We would have reaped the benefits now. But one always has to balance between Industrial growth and environment. BMW rejected Mangalore for it manufacturing plant...lack of supporting engg. based industries..They moved to Maharasthra.Infact they were looking for a port city.

engineer.akash
November 29th, 2009, 11:01 AM
I need one favour please. Could anyone in Mangalore visit any of the big builders ,estate agents and request for snaps of upcoming projects. There are hundreds of projects coming up but everything seems to be under wraps. Are they afraid to divulge details due to the strict NBC prevailing in Mangalore. I am surprised that there are not so strict in neighbouring Kerala. Is this NBC not an all India rule?Comments please

^^ Ajay I guess its not possible for anyone to get the details of upcoming projects,neither the builders would fix the prices during lean period if you were interested to know that.

Builders play cheap politics and mostly have links to underworld dons(atleast in bombay and mangalore)/politicians...its risky on our part to post the details of the upcoming projects here,consequences might be dangerous.:ohno:

engineer.akash
November 29th, 2009, 11:03 AM
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visnaya
November 29th, 2009, 12:06 PM
Congratulations Mangalore project thread for finishing 100 page mark.

Last few weeks were very encouraging for us.

Special thanks to Ajay, engineer akash and krishna murthy for making this thread very acvtive, giving us the information on time and making it a healthy debat forum.

I hope all other indian cities specially karanataka threads reach this mark.

visnaya
November 29th, 2009, 12:40 PM
I am firm supporter of mangalore private buses, In 90's I was doing marketing. that time I used to travel all over karnataka ( bidar to madikaeri, karwar to bellary). But I never saw the service like mangalore private buses. I used travel from Mangalore bhatkal( 140 Kms) and back to south kasarkod ( 200 Kms) and back to mangalore in one day. Such speed they used to travel( also NH was in good conition). I used to show this to my collegues comming from other places.

There are three category of private buses in Undevided.D.K
1. Citi buses ( with in citi)
2. Service buses ( limited stop manga- udupi, manga- kasargod etc)
3. Inter city Transport buses ( mang- bangalore, mangalore- mysore, mang- mumbai)

For catergory 3:
1. Buses from bangalore and mumbai are still Quit popular. there are around 125 buses daily to and fro from mangalore to bangalore, 50 buses from mumbai to mangalore.
2. In mubai they pick people from all over the place like western line ( vasi, borivalli), central line (gatkopar), eastern line ( vashi) and they drop to in around mangalore, udupi etc.
3. In bangalore also same thing they pick from all over bangalore ( bannergatta, Indira nagar, rajajinagar and drop to all over D.K AND KASRGOD. so no worry to how to reach my village.

Even though roads are bad they travel ( I really feel bad about their fate)

These buses does not have speed breaker hence travel faster.

there is neck to neck competion with KSRTC ( but KSRTC dont drop you to near by places in and around managalore, bangalore and mumbai). KSRTC has support from GOK but private dont. Hence due to bad roads most of they are in bankruptcy

In category 2:
there are already KSRTC and Private competion in kasargod and puttur route. only pending is udupi route.

In category 1:
Only private are running;
But this is a sensitive issue. In 2004 election Mr. ramanath rai ( MLA and minister buntwal) implemented the bus route to Bantwal, which was earliar had only Taxies. most of the Taxies owned by poor people from villages ( since there is no other income to them). Due to Bus introduction they lost the business and become bankcrupt. Many people say this is the reason for his defeat.
similarly there are around 2000 buses in mangalore. most of the people working in this are from villages and owned by near by villagers. there are around 10,000 famillies depend on this. that is the reason no body wants to touch this issue.

After 1990 what happend was GOK issued lots permit to privat busses. due to this every one minute there used to one bus to udupi, kasargod etc. this created problem to these people. they started behaving very badly with the people to maintain the time and speed of the buses increased. causing accidents and people out rage. Also the bad roads created more problems to these people.

1.so according to me the main problem is to see how to make the buse route rationalised based on the capacity need. so that there will buses to every palce and bus owners also make profit.
2. If at all introduce KSRTC with private, again rationalise the route based on bandwidth required and available so that every one will benifit.
3. If only KSRTC is introduced absorb all bus workers and Buses into KSRTC. Give proper training to them and creat a win-win situation.

ajay ramchandran
November 29th, 2009, 03:32 PM
I am firm supporter of mangalore private buses, In 90's I was doing marketing. that time I used to travel all over karnataka ( bidar to madikaeri, karwar to bellary). But I never saw the service like mangalore private buses. I used travel from Mangalore bhatkal( 140 Kms) and back to south kasarkod ( 200 Kms) and back to mangalore in one day. Such speed they used to travel( also NH was in good conition). I used to show this to my collegues comming from other places.

There are three category of private buses in Undevided.D.K
1. Citi buses ( with in citi)
2. Service buses ( limited stop manga- udupi, manga- kasargod etc)
3. Inter city Transport buses ( mang- bangalore, mangalore- mysore, mang- mumbai)

For catergory 3:
1. Buses from bangalore and mumbai are still Quit popular. there are around 125 buses daily to and fro from mangalore to bangalore, 50 buses from mumbai to mangalore.
2. In mubai they pick people from all over the place like western line ( vasi, borivalli), central line (gatkopar), eastern line ( vashi) and they drop to in around mangalore, udupi etc.
3. In bangalore also same thing they pick from all over bangalore ( bannergatta, Indira nagar, rajajinagar and drop to all over D.K AND KASRGOD. so no worry to how to reach my village.

Even though roads are bad they travel ( I really feel bad about their fate)

These buses does not have speed breaker hence travel faster.

there is neck to neck competion with KSRTC ( but KSRTC dont drop you to near by places in and around managalore, bangalore and mumbai). KSRTC has support from GOK but private dont. Hence due to bad roads most of they are in bankruptcy

In category 2:
there are already KSRTC and Private competion in kasargod and puttur route. only pending is udupi route.

In category 1:
Only private are running;
But this is a sensitive issue. In 2004 election Mr. ramanath rai ( MLA and minister buntwal) implemented the bus route to Bantwal, which was earliar had only Taxies. most of the Taxies owned by poor people from villages ( since there is no other income to them). Due to Bus introduction they lost the business and become bankcrupt. Many people say this is the reason for his defeat.
similarly there are around 2000 buses in mangalore. most of the people working in this are from villages and owned by near by villagers. there are around 10,000 famillies depend on this. that is the reason no body wants to touch this issue.

After 1990 what happend was GOK issued lots permit to privat busses. due to this every one minute there used to one bus to udupi, kasargod etc. this created problem to these people. they started behaving very badly with the people to maintain the time and speed of the buses increased. causing accidents and people out rage. Also the bad roads created more problems to these people.

1.so according to me the main problem is to see how to make the buse route rationalised based on the capacity need. so that there will buses to every palce and bus owners also make profit.
2. If at all introduce KSRTC with private, again rationalise the route based on bandwidth required and available so that every one will benifit.
3. If only KSRTC is introduced absorb all bus workers and Buses into KSRTC. Give proper training to them and creat a win-win situation.


It is nostalgic . For 10 years in school(Central School,Panambur) I used the route 2,2A,(Anil,Bharath,West coast etc)40(cpc) AND 41(Ballal) then during my MBBS days I used to take the proper service bus ,Madhura from KREC till Mangalore. On my return I used to take either SVM,CPC or any other bus from the old bus stand from opp Punja International.
40 and 41 were the only buses that went inside the REC campus but they stopped plying in the 80's.In those days express buses had only Mulki as astop and super express buses were non stop.On the Mumbai route I have tried almost every company ,CPC,Ballal,Canara Pinto,Ideal etc.On the Bangalore route as I well I had tried every company plus KSRTC.I always preferred CPC or Bharath as they had no video.. During my time CPC introduced the A/C coaches.When I went to Bangalore to work in 1993 I was shocked to see the sad state of affairs there(Public transport)

Krishnamoorthy K
November 30th, 2009, 04:00 AM
Puttur, November 29: A project estimated Rs. 5 Crores has been initiated to construct KSRTC bus stand in Uppinangady, the 2nd commercial town of Puttur taluk, sources said.

1.50 acres of land will be acquired near the Uppinangady bypass road of NH 48 for the construction of bus stand. The site for the proposed bus stand also has been selected and Head Office of KSRTC also has given its green signal to it.

Responding to the appeal made by Puttur MLA Smt. Mallika Prasad last year, State transport minister R Ashok had announced that KSRTC bus stand will be constructed in Uppinangady which comes within the limit of Puttur constituency. Rs. 5 crores has been allotted both for land acquisition and construction works. Uppinangady is a main junction where KSRTC buses which ply to Bangalore, Subrahmanya and Dharmastala would give a stop. Currently KSRTC buses would stop at Village Panchayath bus stand. So the proposed project will cause convenience for the passengers.


Source: Udayavani (http://www.udayavani.com/showstory.asp?news=0&contentid=720237&lang=1)

ajay ramchandran
November 30th, 2009, 09:42 AM
http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=157867


Just to make it very clear that I am not a big supporter of four by fours.This is a time when people should actually be buying energy conserving cars but then this is how the world is....

ajay ramchandran
November 30th, 2009, 09:51 AM
http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=157867


Just to make it very clear that I am not a big supporter of four by fours.This is a time when people should actually be buying energy conserving cars but then this is how the world is....


My personal opinion is that it is lavish display of wealth in a country where the divide between rich and poor is getting wider...actually I am shocked..

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2009, 01:43 PM
I am firm supporter of mangalore private buses, In 90's I was doing marketing. that time I used to travel all over karnataka ( bidar to madikaeri, karwar to bellary). But I never saw the service like mangalore private buses. I used travel from Mangalore bhatkal( 140 Kms) and back to south kasarkod ( 200 Kms) and back to mangalore in one day. Such speed they used to travel( also NH was in good conition). I used to show this to my collegues comming from other places.


3. If only KSRTC is introduced absorb all bus workers and Buses into KSRTC. Give proper training to them and creat a win-win situation.

Since,Ajay and yourself have good experiences with the private buses then probably there must be something plus with the private services.Which I am not able to actually feel as I have traveled only once or twice during my visit to mangalore,& probably I got into one of the worst buses(private) Had I caught the best bus, my opinion here might have been tilted.:lol:

Visnaya your third option looks fine,& I don't want the people to lose jobs :ohno: in the process of nationalization,hope some solution prevails in near future.Lets wait and watch. :)

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Task force to look into city's woes
TNN 30 November 2009, 09:51pm IST

MANGALORE: The Federation of Karnataka Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FKCCI) and the Kanara Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI) on Monday formed two task force committees to address and solve issues related to infrastructure and railways in the district.

The committees will have eight members each, four from each organization. This came about in the interactive meet with FKCCI president J Crasta while discussing issues and challenges before the trade and industry in DK district. Crasta told the members mere talking will not solve problems and action was needed on the part of the chamber. "Why was the Bangalore-Mangalore train diverted to Kannur. The train should remain in the state and not proceed to Kannur," he said.

While the infrastructure task force will be headed by G G Mohandas Prabhu, the railways task force will be headed by J Bangera, both vice-presidents of KCCI and FKCCI respectively.

Earlier, Crasta said that the district with rail, road and air link was the perfect place for investment. Srinivas Kamath, president, KCCI, brought to Crasta's attention issues which were hampering the development of trade and commerce between the state and the rest of the country.

Kamath noted that extra funds were needed for maintenance of Highway 17 and 48 as they were in a deplorable condition. He also said the four-laning from B C Road to Gundia needs to be taken in order to facilitate free movement of goods.

Pointing out that most of the shipments from the state were made to Chennai and Kochi, he suggested that FKCCI appeal to their members to patronize New Mangalore Port. He urged FKCCI to help facilitate the speedy completion of the direct line from Mangalore - Bangalore via Shravanabelagola, which will reduce the travel time by three hours and will provide better connectivity to the state capital.

Kamath also said the New Industrial Estate/industrial areas must be used for industrial purpose only. He said warehousing or godowns for fertilizer etc., was not an industrial activity and can be undertaken elsewhere without restriction. Industrial land being limited, acquisition of land for this purpose only adds to the farmer protests and other socio-economic issues, he added. He also noted the existing industrial estates in Mangalore were saturated; a new industrial estate was required for development of this region.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/Task-force-to-look-into-citys-woes/articleshow/5285566.cms

ananda.padebettu
December 1st, 2009, 07:04 AM
Thanx :)

When Govt is doing something good for dakshin Kannada which has been neglected so far,I don't want DK to miss the opportunity.

& I don't want my close friend to crib again that Karnataka govt has done nothing to DK.:lol:



Ajay/Akash,

The things would be great if both private and Government led transport systems provide a competetion and better services to the customers (Travellers). I am sure KSRTC alone has not been such a great success, although people prefer KSRTS as they do not have other meaningful options in other parts of Karnataka. There, people resort to the top of metador or Mahindra vans and some times even tractors to travel from one place to another.

Akash,

You could refer to the KSRTC plying between Bangalore and Mysore. However, rural areas around still lag a regular reliable service from KSRTC. The northern Karnataka Belt suffers from public tranport stroke. The bus services often have proved to be unreliable. This is my personal experience also. We use to joke 'If KSRTC bus comes late by 1 hour, it can be said to be on time. If it is late by 2 hours, it is relatively delayed. If it comes on time, it is yestreday's bus reached today on time'.

The rural areas like Nandalike (having population of not maore than 1000 people) was connected with private bus services more than couple of decades ago in Dakshina Kannada. I don't see any reason why the private bus operators must be eradicated totally.

I am firm in my view that both Private and Government operators must run parallely in order to give options to commuters. That will be beneficial to the travellers in Mangalore and Udupi.:cheers:

engineer.akash
December 1st, 2009, 07:30 AM
Ananda I hail from North Karnataka and the truth is that NWKRTC bus services are better any day compared to KSRTC.
Rural connectivity is the best in NK,I will tell you,South karnataka has major chunk of local private players operating between small village and towns,while in NK it is wholly taken care by the NWKRTC/NEKRTC.:)

I am a great fan of NEKRTC buses/services than KSRTC.