Zenica... a mostly industrialized central Bosnian city. Around 150,000 people call it home, and its the fourth largest city in the country. Here are some photos I located on the internet.

Panoramic
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/zenica04B/P4031330.JPG
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/a/u/aum106/zenica.jpg
http://www.dabar.org/Missionsweb/Trips/Bosnia/Pictures/Bosnia-D/MVC-D22F.JPG
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/BIH/Bilino_Polje_A2.jpg
http://www.zeps.com/1%20desno/dolevelika-3.gif

City Centre
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/zenica04B/P4031312.JPG
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http://www.geocities.com/akundalic/zenica13.jpg
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Old City of Vranduk
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/avranduk/DSCN1754.jpg
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not bad pics, and these tall residential tower ?? What is that ? How high is it ? :)

Yeah, it's residential but I don't know how high!

Centre of Zenica is nice and some newer residential areas as well but a big part of those commieblocks are just ugly. But hey, what's new?! ;)

I personally love Zenica. It is a extremely industrial as well as beautiful. I don't know how much construction is going down there, but if the right buildings get built, it will have a wonderfull skyline! :)
BTW, I couldn't tell you the actuall hight of the residential building, but it's pretty big! :)

Beautifull :D To be honest I don't like it :( But hey, it's commie paradise ;)

wellwhen i drove past zenica i hated it cuzz it looked soo depressing.. and old rusted buildings everywhere.. but these pics arent bad :)

Yeah, depressing...that was the word! It was big industrial city, and now industry is dead (that kind of industry doesn't have any future) and they'll have to think something else. Big city (I think it's 100.000 population) without any future I would say :(

The only good thing they have are Robijaši, supporters of Zenica Čelik football club ;)

BH Steel found some new investors last year and it will expand with a new plant, worth of EUR 40 million.

I wouldn't call that dead.

Furthermore the city is expanding, new residential areas are popping up. So I guess some see having it a future then. ;)

According the official site the city itself has a population of 145.000.

But yeah, for the biggest part it's just an ugly industrial city.

Just give it some time, Zenica will be what it used to and more...Time... :)

The city has quite brutalist communist architecture, but the old city is quite nice.

According the official site the city itself has a population of 145.000.

They often say that but they mean the municipality. No way the city itself has 145.000 people.

It has one of the nicer seals I think..

http://www.eupm.org/stories/images/Article30/Zenica%20CoA.gif

Timur, how can Zenica ever be what it used to be? Nooo...it's not that I have something against the city, but it's dieing, and I can see it. Željezara allready died, and it will be hard to make it work again.

Before war it was ugly as well, but everybody had job somewhere, mostly in Željezara, but Zenica had huge air pollution, it was unhealthy to live there. Banja Luka also had huge industrial area, but city government decided to destroy all those buildings: Incel, Celuloza, Vrbas...becose they decided to promove Banja Luka as city of tourism and economy. That's something what Banja Luka and Sarajevo can do, but Zenica? No.

I passed by Zenica a few times in my life and all I remember is that it stank like hell. Quite unbelievable...

Zenički kanton/županija:

http://www.zdk.ba/Slike/kantonuevropi.jpg

Area: 3.904 km2
Population: 398.000
Number of people with job: 69.000
Number of people without job: 62.000
Netto pay in Zenički kanton: 207€
Netto pay in Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina: 260€

Municipalities:

* Zenica
* Kakanj
* Visoko
* Breza
* Vareš
* Olovo
* Maglaj
* Zavidovići
* Žepče
* Tešanj
* Doboj Jug
* Usora

Yeah there's really not much for Zenica to "come back to". It was nonexistant until after WWII when it became a hub for industry. Very polluted. Its mostly good as a center of population. The only thing it can "come back to" is a better economy.

There was some major foreign investment there last summer however, so its getting better.

BH Steel found some new investors last year and it will expand with a new plant, worth of EUR 40 million.

I wouldn't call that dead.

Furthermore the city is expanding, new residential areas are popping up. So I guess some see having it a future then. ;)

According the official site the city itself has a population of 145.000.

But yeah, for the biggest part it's just an ugly industrial city.

You pretty much said it best right here.

Yeah there's really not much for Zenica to "come back to". It was nonexistant until after WWII when it became a hub for industry. Very polluted. Its mostly good as a center of population. The only thing it can "come back to" is a better economy.

There was some major foreign investment there last summer however, so its getting better.

Didn't Turkey invest in Zenica with a great amount of money or something? I remember reading that on this forum somewhere...Anyway's, yes...It didn't have much to look up to before, but I think every city in BIH has a future, just let the economy rise a bit more...

I passed by Zenica a few times in my life and all I remember is that it stank like hell. Quite unbelievable...

lol

I know I wouldn't want to live there.

By the way, the first years after the war there was talk, mostly coming from Zenica to drop Sarajevo as the capital city and give Zenica the status!

That was the best laugh I ever had.

They still want to be something they are not.

Some of the commie-blocks are incredible! Interesting city...

lol

I know I wouldn't want to live there.

By the way, the first years after the war there was talk, mostly coming from Zenica to drop Sarajevo as the capital city and give Zenica the status!

That was the best laugh I ever had.

They still want to be something they are not.

I heard about that, then Mostarci had an idea to claim Mostar for capital city of Federation, and Sarajevo for capital city of Bosnia-Herzegovina :) I'm surprised Tuzlaci didn't have anything to say?

I heard about that, then Mostarci had an idea to claim Mostar for capital city of Federation, and Sarajevo for capital city of Bosnia-Herzegovina :) I'm surprised Tuzlaci didn't have anything to say?

Because they are down to earth and smart enough to know it ain't gonna happen.

;)

All this talk about changing the country capital is all bullshit. It is obvious that SARAJEVO is meant to be the capital.

I mean, Banja Luka is capital city of Republika Srpska, Sarajevo is die Hauptsta...capital city of Bosnia-Herzegovina, and I think Mostar should be capital of Federation. It's not my problem, it's your republic and you can do whatever you want, but it's a bit stupid to have Sarajevo as capital city of both, Bosnia-Herzegovina and Federation...

Anyway this thread is about ZENICA and I'm sorry I went off-topic ;)

It's kinda like having Belgrade as a capital of Serbia and old Yugoslavia.

I mean, Banja Luka is capital city of Republika Srpska, Sarajevo is die Hauptsta...capital city of Bosnia-Herzegovina, and I think Mostar should be capital of Federation. It's not my problem, it's your republic and you can do whatever you want, but it's a bit stupid to have Sarajevo as capital city of both, Bosnia-Herzegovina and Federation...

Anyway this thread is about ZENICA and I'm sorry I went off-topic ;)


Hey, I look at it this way. You can believe what you want, and I can believe what I want, and I will respect your beliefs as long as you respect mine.

I figured this out like two weeks ago. See it's working can't you tell, me and Duckzilla haven't had one arrguement lately! :)

:cheers1:

The ugliest city in Bosnia-Herzegovina...
ZENICA

http://www.zenica.ba/components/com_mambospgm/spgm/gal/Kultura/Picture%20010.jpg
http://www.zenica.ba/components/com_mambospgm/spgm/gal/20._Mart_-_Dan_Zenice/Dan%20Zenice%20069.jpg
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http://www.zenica.ba/components/com_mambospgm/spgm/gal/Zenica/Picture%20035.jpg
http://www.zenica.ba/components/com_mambospgm/spgm/gal/Zenica/Slika%201%20-%20Jalija%20nocu%20(%20pogled%20sa%20Crkvica%20).JPG
http://www.zenica.ba/components/com_mambospgm/spgm/gal/Zenica/Slika%204%20-%20Mokusnice.JPG
http://www.zenica.ba/components/com_mambospgm/spgm/gal/Zenica/Slika%2013%20-%20Kineski%20Zid.JPG
http://www.zenica.ba/components/com_mambospgm/spgm/gal/Zenica/6kameni.JPG
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This city has so much potential
I am surprised you find it ugly , in the contrary , if a little invetment is put into this city it can be an exiting attraction
I like the streets , the way things look in general , the river is also very cool
You can do wonders in here

I personally do think that Zenica isn't the most beautiful city in Bosnia and Herzegovina, but I do however believe that the city has a great potential. :yes: Given some time and money, the city could be cleaned up, and have some great projects along the river...

I say, give the commies some paint, and plant some more plants and other decorations, and the city will turn very beautiful. With some more modern buildings, the city would look great. :yes: You can see in some pictures, there are some newly built glass buildings, and they look very nice...

EDIT: I'd like to also add the terrible weather doesn't make any city look good. :)

I'm pleasently surprised by the little skyscraper they have...

On the other hand.. I've heard that the place stinks horribly. Easily the most polluted city in the country.

Plus considering how the people there feel about Sarajevo I can't really bring myself to think too highly of them.

Plus considering how the people there feel about Sarajevo I can't really bring myself to think too highly of them.

Aha , ... so this is why Mila put in such good words for this city :laugh:

What you thought I was referring to the buildings with "ugliest"? ;) Hehehe...

I know, I know...This is a really stupid questions, but why are so angry with people from Sarajevo? :dunno:

I remember visiting Zenica a long time ago. Depressing little place.

I drove through Zenica, on my way to Sarajevo.. It is very depressing.. it looks like a dead city.. all old grey buildings... just horrible... but those pictures are ok :)

Every city comes back from it's moment of depression, Sarajevo was totally depressing, now it isn't as bad. Tuzla was also extremely depressing, and now it's currently recovering...Why not Zenica?

My mom was born there, hehehe.:cheers:

So, why don't people from Zenica like Sarajevo? :dunno:

EDIT: Never mind, I know now...

When I first heard Neda's song:

Sarajevo, Sarajevo - gdje je moja raja, gdje je moja raja?

I thought it was a Srebrenica or Zenica person.

What you thought I was referring to the buildings with "ugliest"? ;) Hehehe...

lol ... no , i mean you were talking negative about this city and it wasnt because it's ugly but because people here dont like Sarajevo much :bleh:
So you really meant the people afterall :nocrook:

Interesting town...at a recent football game a couple of days ago, between a local and a Sarajevo team(don't know which ones), the whole stadium chanted "SERBIA, SERBIA!!!".

Interesting town...at a recent football game a couple of days ago, between a local and a Sarajevo team(don't know which ones), the whole stadium chanted "SERBIA, SERBIA!!!".

Yes, we know.

It should be noted that the city is 83% Bosniak and that SDA won the municipial elections in a landslide.

And did you know that asides from chanting "Serbia, Serbia!!!" the stadium also had chants about Markale and Srebrenica?

It's not politics, they're just willing to sink that low to insult Sarajevo fans.

Yes, we know.

It should be noted that the city is 83% Bosniak and that SDA won the municipial elections in a landslide.

And did you know that asides from chanting "Serbia, Serbia!!!" the stadium also had chants about Markale and Srebrenica?

It's not politics, they're just willing to sink that low to insult Sarajevo fans.

Really?Jesus christ its like one group of Serbs chanted others Jasenovac.I know that fans are group of people of their own but these kind of things are too low even for them...

Yes, we know.

It should be noted that the city is 83% Bosniak and that SDA won the municipial elections in a landslide.

And did you know that asides from chanting "Serbia, Serbia!!!" the stadium also had chants about Markale and Srebrenica?

It's not politics, they're just willing to sink that low to insult Sarajevo fans.

Seriously?! My God, what an idiots!

They obviusly have a huge complex written all over their forehead.... sad, very sad.

Yes, we know.

It should be noted that the city is 83% Bosniak and that SDA won the municipial elections in a landslide.

And did you know that asides from chanting "Serbia, Serbia!!!" the stadium also had chants about Markale and Srebrenica?

It's not politics, they're just willing to sink that low to insult Sarajevo fans.

Things are being a little exaggerated about these 'chants'. It wasn't half as bad as some want to think (which is still no excuse for it).

By the way, Ledeni, your 'juropijan konstraksn' thing is just :hilarious:


:cheers:

It's not something that is specific to Zenica - surely it's a very powerful sentiment there, but it's shared in some form or another with most of Bosnia-Herzegovina. They can't understand why so many of our country's limited military resources were used to defend a city the Cetniks were instructed to "bomb them into madness" but not conquer, ethnically cleanse, etc. Why did we need so many soldiers where their villages and towns were falling, one by one. "A bomb blast in Sarajevo was not nearly as terrifying as a knock at the door in Srebrenica."

To a certain extent I agree. I just feel if we had left Sarajevo defenseless they would've taken the city - and if Sarajevo fell, Bosnia-Herzegovina fell without question. Then you have the normal tensions (usually friendly, though not in this case) in a country where the capital city is so overpowering. It's the same in Sweden.

In any event, if push comes to shove - if we face an outside threat - I'm certain we will be reunited. It's the same in a larger sense also. Nothing could bring Croatia, Bosnia, and Serbia together again like a good Austrian, Russian, or Turkish invasion. ;)

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