tacky 80's shading effect.
he he he... The drop shadow... You are right, this is not even a good one. :-) Another one I really hate was the "lens flare"

Good thing both of them are gone... :-) he he he

Not sure about your guess on the yellow tubes!! They are almost certainly cement silos or water tanks. I can see a grout pump and bags of cement or grout lying next to them. This would probably be used to seal up the shoring piles to prevent water from the marina entering the excavations for the basement.

Yes, they are larger than i thought at first.

definatly on site sweet water storage. probably refilled by water tanker regularly.

I would go with the cement or water tower silos idea, too. But I doubt there's any risk of sepage from the Marina as it is man-made. On the other hand, the Gulf being not so far away is where water sepage might come from. Does anyone know where the water table in the Marina is? I know in some places you always hit water at certain depths.

Is the drop shadow that bad? I put it on all my pictures, which lets them "float" above the page. I used to use a plain border but didn't like that.

Im not to sure where your going with the seepage thing. but anywhere in dubai...if you dig down, you hit water when you hit sea level.

the water is salty though, you need sweet water for construction.

the drop shaddow isnt too bad. just a little 1987.

the drop shaddow isnt too bad. just a little 1987.
Nothing wrong with retro!

The water level is actually quite high and very saline. In combination with the car parks in most developments this gives potential problems but with proper protection it should be ok. But it is defenately something the developer has to look out for.

Another thing is the concrete itself. The temp. of the stuff needs to be right and with the desert heat this is not easy. By using additives to cool (in addition to water) they can influence the process. Too many additives tend to give a lot of long term problems too. Only time will tell.

The MAG development I am confident about in terms of quality and feasability. The developers communicate fairly well with the clients and to Bruce, who makes the mag218 weblog. This adds a level of transparency that is needed IMO.

:2cents:

SMALL UPDATE ON CORRESPONDENCE WITH MAGpd

As I announced earlier on this forum we at www.dreamingdubai.com agreed with MAGpd to sell their remaining apartments online. It has been proven impossible to get any information from these people via email and they just do not reply. (had to keep nagging them for simple YES / NO replies) After more than 2 weeks had past I finally got a reply from Nada:

"We do not place our availability or price list on the net, you may place
information about MAG 218 and MAG 214 but not prices."

of course I responded:

Dear Sir / Madam,

Sorry, we only list items on the net with at least a price indication. We are not a 'floorplan only' site and require people to register on the site before they get price information. Prices as such are not 'on the street'

I asked for a sales contract to put my xx% commission in writing and was denied that.

I also think that there is no point selling apartments for which we do not have any prices nor availability.. The reason is that this feels like either the prices are too high or everyone gets an individual price. In both cases, I do not want to participate in that.

Thank you and kind regards,

www.DreamingDubai.com



of course I immediately removed all references to MAG from the dreamingdubai.com site... Bruce, are you sure they did not screw you over the price of the property? What price / sq feet did you pay? I think I could have known when starting to communicate with Nada... Nada means NOTHING in Spanish :jk: (I just found out... )

In other words they sell for whatever they think they can get at the time.. No set price lists. Would never buy from such a company that does not publish its price list.

You are so right about that.... It makes me feel I am always paying too much... Silly f*ckers.... As if there is no internet to compare...

I am afraid that with sales 'tactics' like this they will find themselves with a half sold tower once construction starts and that pretending that the apartments sell like hot cakes will not sell more apts at all.... It will make people wary of investing in this tower.

Whatever, Nada MAG for me. :-) I've had my share of this Eric Cartman business model but wanted to share this information with you so you can draw your own conslusions.

ok. Signing off...

so work is in full swing now for this one:

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My relative silence is due to having been posted to a Ruwais outpost with 5-star luxery comfort, but no internet apart from what amounts to a dial-up connection at Dh 15 per hour.

Sorry to hear about the trouble Minime had with the sales office. I think they are just trying to keep official info--like prices--in the their own hands and that of their authorized agents.

There was, in fact, a price list that listed the status of every unit and the exact price including the square foot break down. Prices remained unchanged from...

I could not be bothered with the development. If they are that desperate in keeping the prices unknown, why would they be honest with you in the first place? How do you know you did not get the 'expensive' pricelist and someone else another list?

I do not like this type of business when I am on a market, let alone when buying a property! Talking about feeling screwed. :)

Well to be fair we do know that they officially raised thier prices on all remaining apartments by 10% from April 2 2006 in an announcement reported by AMEINFO

I wasn't able to complete my last post.

As I was saying the prices were unchanged from when I saw several listings in June 2005 to when I saw the entire spreadsheet in November 2005. In January 2006 I was told that prices were still unchanged. Presumably prices have been increased across the board by 10% as of April 02.

My sense is that the developer will quote price and availability details to anyone they perceive to be a genuine buyer but are not willing to list the information all in one place--even on their own website. I don't think it is with a motive to decieve or to quote different prices to different people. I think like many sellers of goods they want people to look at the product first before the price. There's some logic in this in that some people will rule things out on the basis of price alone without looking closely at value. By getting people to look at the product first they might consider it if they like what they see even if it falls outside of some pre-set range.

So, Minime, I really think that's all it is. Before the announced 10% increase prices ranged in the 1-bedrooms from about Dhs 634,000 to 828,000 for identical layouts with the only difference being the floor. At a size of 844 sq. ft. the rate was from Dhs 751 to 981 per square foot. Now everything (presumably) is 10% higher or Dhs 826 to 1079 per square foot.

A new tidbit on the construction progress--the foundation contract is until 10 August, so presumably all foundation work will be completed by then.

07/05/2006

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Thanks AltinD. That photo makes the site look rather jumbled. I was at the site tonight, 10 May, and machines and men were still at work. So work appears to be progressing well. Was told that shoring is 80% complete and excavation to begin soon. Reliable source also saying piling will be complete by end of July.

Lots of work being done at the number 5 interchange with the road beside MAG 218 (parallel to SZR) also being widened. With work going on at that interchange, the MAG site and other plots all around, the whole landscape looks totally different from how it did just a few months back.

I highly doubt piling will be completed by July.. sounds too optimistic. I would say at least beginning of fall

That may be so, but this estimate is consistent with what I was given in January, before work started, and again today. Although not a whole lot has been done since work started in February, a look at the site reveals a lot of equipment in place, more than at similar sites. It looks like they are poised to really start moving quickly.

It's been a long wait for investors who bought here when it was first launched more than a year back. Good to see work is in full swing. Let's hope we can see it starting to rise by the end of the year :cheers:

I've just posted at the MAG 218 Community website an extensive update on the MAG 218. Anyone interested, please follow the link: MAG 218 Progress, Construction News and Demographics (http://mag218topics.blogspot.com/2006/05/mag-218-progress-construction-news-and.html)

To the site administrator: I would suggest you revise the MAG 218 height from 275 meters to 250. I haven't actually confirmed the shorter height but a careful study of the architectual drawings, which I have on CD, clearly indicate a height of around 250. With 63 above-ground floors and a limited roof structure, the structural height cannot possible reach 275 m. This is possible only if one adds the two antennae which rise above the roof structure.

MAG PDD has produced a corporate video showing MAG 218 in 3-D (http://mag218.blogspot.com/2006/05/mag-218-in-3-dimension.html) along with two of its other towers.

I think the 275 meters is on top of the antenas/spires anyway.

the video is our work...hehe

the video is our work...hehe Great job. Exactly what's needed when buyers have to wait 2 or 3 years before seeing the project complete.

The most recent shots (8-Jun) from the MAG 218 site look a bit of a mess: I'ts All a Jumble (http://mag218photos.blogspot.com/2006/06/its-all-jumble.html). I suppose that's the look of progress. Compared to other sites in similar states of development, the activity at the MAG 218 site is either frenitic or just disorganized. Hoping to get some explanatory commentary from the project manager soon.

BTW, no photo to show but progress is being made at the Marina Pinnacle site. It looks like they are finally making progress at constructing something in the deep pit.

i would assume the MP is still working on piling, actually the raft foundation should be underway already.

of course, it takes longer, underground basement levels.

i would assume the MP is still working on piling, actually the raft foundation should be underway already.

of course, it takes longer, underground basement levels.

please, were are the prices of MAG 218, with the analisis of evry floors sold or not. ?

there is somebody in dubai that may fill of furniture the apartment ?
thank you

italy

please, were are the prices of MAG 218, with the analisis of evry floors sold or not. ?

there is somebody in dubai that may fill of furniture the apartment ?
thank you

italy


i would know the price of an apartment in 218, with or without furniture, but nobody answer me

i saw a site where there was descriped all sold and the Available, but i don' t find again.
italy

SMALL UPDATE ON CORRESPONDENCE WITH MAGpd

As I announced earlier on this forum we at www.dreamingdubai.com agreed with MAGpd to sell their remaining apartments online. It has been proven impossible to get any information from these people via email and they just do not reply. (had to keep nagging them for simple YES / NO replies) After more than 2 weeks had past I finally got a reply from Nada:

"We do not place our availability or price list on the net, you may place
information about MAG 218 and MAG 214 but not prices."

of course I responded:

Dear Sir / Madam,

Sorry, we only list items on the net with at least a price indication. We are not a 'floorplan only' site and require people to register on the site before they get price information. Prices as such are not 'on the street'

I asked for a sales contract to put my xx% commission in writing and was denied that.

I also think that there is no point selling apartments for which we do not have any prices nor availability.. The reason is that this feels like either the prices are too high or everyone gets an individual price. In both cases, I do not want to participate in that.

Thank you and kind regards,

www.DreamingDubai.com



of course I immediately removed all references to MAG from the dreamingdubai.com site... Bruce, are you sure they did not screw you over the price of the property? What price / sq feet did you pay? I think I could have known when starting to communicate with Nada... Nada means NOTHING in Spanish :jk: (I just found out... )


i would like to buy 1 bedroom but i don't know the price and condiction.

i am not able to find again the floors sold or not sold. i saw few days ago.

Great job. Exactly what's needed when buyers have to wait 2 or 3 years before seeing the project complete.

ciao, bruce

Napoli, italia

ciao, bruce

Napoli, italiaI'd like to extend my welcome to you, Embig, on the SSC MAG forum. We need more regular readers and commentors. Can you tell us, have you decided to purchase a flat yet?

I'd like to mention to any Arabic speakers that there is an Arabic welcome message (http://mag218.blogspot.com/2006/07/blog-post.html) at the MAG 218 Community site. Would anyone be able to help compose a message in Itallian, Russian, German... or any other language?

I'd like to extend my welcome to you, Embig, on the SSC MAG forum. We need more regular readers and commentors. Can you tell us, have you decided to purchase a flat yet?

I'd like to mention to any Arabic speakers that there is an Arabic welcome message (http://mag218.blogspot.com/2006/07/blog-post.html) at the MAG 218 Community site. Would anyone be able to help compose a message in Itallian, Russian, German... or any other language?


ciao Bruce are you arab ? but you teach english in abu dabhi.?
i sent you a message . also to mr NIMER to know a good price,
in this case i need an help to fill the house with forniture and somebody who may rent in future the house
thank you
emilio

certainly i will come before the end of this year, becouse now is too hot, as tourist or landlord

i sent a italian traslation

Thanks Emilio. Italian welcome message (http://mag218.blogspot.com/2006/07/messaggio-di-benvenuto.html) now posted? Anyone else with translations--would especially like to get Russian and German as I know their are quite a few buyers from there. Also, any Hindi speakers who can help?

Let's hope you'll hear from Mr. Nimer.

How would you go about branding the MAG 218 tower. That is not only does it need to compete for attention with countless other towers in the Marina and beyond, but it also must compete with other MAG towers, like the MAG 214 and MAG 224.

So, how does one set the MAG 218 apart? I have one idea (http://m218.blogspot.com/2006/07/magnolia-218.html) if anyone would cares to have a look... What do you think?

I don't know what Arabian Forasol has done all these months, but they just started excavating on the site. :weird:

Immerhin etwas!!! :okay:

then it must have been soil testing?

but weird, they were rather busy for like three or four months!

08/07/2006

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Great! The construction begin!

Any renders?

grow,grow,grow MAG 218 Tower!

The official word: Work/progress on the excavation/piling is behind schedule. Why? Arabian Forasol not doing what they said they would, how they said they would, when they said they would. The good news. MAG PDD GM is on their backs!

Recent photos of the MAG 218 hole in the ground. (http://mag218photos.blogspot.com/2006/07/still-hole-in-ground.html)

at least there is something happening now.

in the end it is actualy usually always up to the contractors and the project managers..

I think there are quite a few more factors, and one of the major ones in Dubai being the lack of resources to meet all of the demand. People (contractors) will commit to jobs that realistically they can't carry out as they say they will. If they can't get that crane they need, because the suppliers have already leased them all out, then you'll have the inevitable delays.

^^ Arabian Forasol is doing also half of the piling for Dubai Metro elevated track (Red Line). I think they are very small, and new to the market, to do that and towers at the same time.

They're not the only ones though, Middle East Foundation Group is over-stretched as well, which is visible from the progress, or lack of it, on all of their projects.

on the other hand, Bauer and Dutch foundations are pretty fast as u said.

they are more experienced and an international company indeed.

I think that is exactly the problem with Arabian Forasol. Although affiliated with a major company, Forasol (a Swiss entity), I believe the local division is rather upstart. I was told that the problem is that they have taken on a number of other projects after they signed on to MAG 218.

As Dubaiflo said, it should be the Project Manager or consultant to make sure that they follow through on their commitments.

... I was told that the problem is that they have taken on a number of other projects after they signed on to MAG 218...

Excactly, and the MOST important and resources-draining one, is no other but DUBAI METRO.

04.08.2006 By Imre

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^^ Stephan, is great that you're trying to help, but please leave the job of transfering pictures to the right threads, to someone else, or do it ONLY if you're sure.

The two pictures of the construction site are of 23Marina and NOT this tower. You have messed up some other towers as well.

Oh sorry, it's hard so say, what hole is what tower.

Pictures were between the Mag 218 Tower ???? :runaway:

I've been at the MAG 218 site many times (as recently as 3 August) but never noticed the construction billboard. I'm surprised to see MAG PDD referring to itself as Dream Esate Limited--also new to me.

18.08.2006 By Imre

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Hallo, i'm new in this forum.

i like to know the name of the buildings near the MAG 218 (i know only Marina Eights, in front, toward marina). Somebody know what will be built between Mag 218 and marina Pinnacle and above all what will be build where in past was build the Emaar sales office (Marina Heights sea side).
thank you very much....

hi welcome to the forum :)

check this thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=332478 (also the last page)

for a plot map and discuss such things here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=347692

also, the plot of the Emaar sales office is still unknown, but there are a lot of rumours and discussion going on, since it is a prime plot and also people fear their marina view might be blocked.

i hope there will be a Dubai Marina shopping mall. near mag 218 plot is important for me have not only apartament and residential accomodation, but also some shop.
thank you for your help.
i'm waiting for new photo about the building growing of mag218 tower, hoping no more delays.

there is a shopping mall (spinneys supermarket) just around the corner, but there are rumours a real mall is going to be built between all the supertalls. also i guess the mag tower might have some shops in the basement.

shop in the basament? nobody in mag is speaking of shops in the basament. there are 11 podium floor. one is a hall/swimming, one is community floor/gym the other 9 do you thing are not all for the parking?
the mag sales office is selling only apartments i don't hear nothing about shop. maybe they're sell after. we will discover this when the building is grow to the 1st residential floor...

It would be a pity if all these supertalls didn't have shops at street level. There'll eventually be loads of people living in this small area so having shops around would be really beneficial.

flo, I think the idea for a mall between the towers is dead, there's hardly any space left.
Maybe this particular tower doesn't but I'm sure some of the towers around will have shops, I think infinity is one that will

yes this is too important. So i think the're will be a large dubai marina shopping mall near mag and the other supertall building. but no one confirmed project. the plot are limited and there is also one other important thing. in all this million cement tonne, is important the green. some park, tree, flower. nature....

yes infinity should be have. the picture on infinity web page confirm this. but only one is too little.

Well if you want loads of shops then the jbr walk might be the closest. :dunno:

yes. or marina mall, near the atlantic.

About the night illumination of the tower, does somebody know how it will be?
Some light as gronvenor house? maybe as burj al arab's rainbow illumination? i'm joking....

I expect there will be a mall between the supertalls, starting from the plot between MAG 218 and Pinnacle, and running back between the towers. There is space. In that block there is 1 row of towers along Al Sufouh Rd., then a small access road, then a 2nd row of towers, including Marina Pinnacle, Marina 101, an empty space, then Al Seef tower. Next is a 3rd row with not a single tower at present--so the shopping mall will fit here. Finally there is a fourth row with MAG 218, Marina Gardens, an empty space and last 23 Marina.

The following map is one source for the above diagram:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Upandhi/UpperMarina.jpg

You'll find a lot of details about he MAG 218 and its location at the Key Links section (http://mag218sales.blogspot.com/2005/12/purchasing-unit-in-mag-218-tower.html) of the MAG 218 Tower Sales page.

Also, there will be no shops in the MAG 218, although several other towers nearby will have these. There is to unit owners an advantage to not having shops: a quieter and more private residence, lower building operating costs (and probably lower management fees), more input by property owners in the owner's association.

^^ nice map there.

but it still only shows what we knew for ages.. i also think there is probably going to be a shopping mall in there.

you forgot sulafa tower however, also i am not sure where exactly the interchange will run.

Marina Garden??

Marina Garden is a tower to be built by Saudi developer, Tamniyat (or something like that). Somewhere it was said to be 66-storeys. This is the same developer who was to build Najd tower, which we know has been canned (to be replaced by Elite Residences). So, Marina Garden may also be in question. The MAG 218 developer, however, has commented about this tower, saying that it will be no closer than 20 meters to the MAG 218, per Dubai Marina regulations.

Where is Sulafa tower?

I've found Sulafa. If fills in the question mark beside Marina 101. That means there is only one tower plot left to identify in this block. Although we haven't yet seen anything conclusive on the ground about the mall, my feeling is that it is a sure bet. The MAG 218 developer received (last year) a letter about it from Emaar and they had to negotiate with Emaar about using their plot while working on the MAG 218 foundation. My guess is that Emaar will wait till the surrounding towers finish their groundwork before starting work on the plot so that everyone won't be in each other's way. Presuming it won't have any highrise elements, they should be able to start later but still finish around the same time as the surrounding towers.

Updated with Sulafa Tower. (Anyone knows what Sulafa means?)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Upandhi/UpperMarina-2.jpg

A summary of building heights on the tallest block.

Green = topped out/complete
Red = u/c (including tea breaks)
Blue = approved/proposed

460 m
420 m
412 m
395 m
380 m
345 m
330 m
310 m
296 m
285 m
260 m
260 m
254 m
250 m
215 m
210 m
208 m
207 m
207 m

Impressive!!! :eek:

nothings nedw about the new project of Mag Group? Mag 224 and mag 222.
Are just approved? Somebody know when start the launching with all the price and facilities?
Thanks

03.09.2006 By Imre

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15.09.2006 By Imre

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13/10/2006

MAG 218

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The Torch and MAG 218 towers got started on their piling works about the same time. At the Torch the job seems to be complete while it's still going on at MAG 218. That being said, the MAG 218 hole looks deeper and more defined.

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MAG 218 above, the Torch below; both taken 18 October.

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More photos of the MAG 218 piling progress (http://mag218photos.blogspot.com/2006/10/piling-progress.html) at blog.

Interestingly, MAG 218's main contractor is to be M.A.G. Contracting.

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^^ While Zublin and Arabian Forasol might have moved in their respective work sites roughly at the same time, Zublin was faster on starting work, while as discussed even here, AF took their time, propably due to their overstreching work with Dubai Metro Red Line.

Somebody know if the dubai marina metro access will be near the highest tower (MAG 218, Torch ecc), or in the middle of marina (near the dubai Marina Mall)?

It seems quite certain that it will we be on the JLT side of SZR rather than within Dubai Marina--as that is where the line is presently being constructed. I suspect it will be toward the middle of the DM stretch along SZR. (Does anyone else know for certain?) The American University stop, also on the other side of SZR will probably be nearer the MAG 218.

I do wonder what kind of access there will be to the stations. Will there be underground or above ground passage across SZR? Will there be enclosed walkways so people don't have to walk too far in the oepn sun?

^^ There is a tunnel being constructed close to the Marina Mall, must be for pedestrian access to Marina from JLT side.

Well, there are 2 stations. One for the marina near marina mall, anotherone near the superblock but on the JLT side.

The metro line itself surely won't zigzag across SZR, so any station on the Marina side will still require passage under or above SZR to reach the train line, right?

Can you share your source for location of the new stations? It certainly would be great of there is one near the superblock even if on the JLT side. But wouldn't that put it too close to the proposed American university station? If you have a link, I'd surely like to see it.

That tunnel from the Marina Mall construction site runs under the Marina Ring road but opens up at ground level with SZR. So it doesn't lead at all across SZR to the JLT side.

both are on the JLT side though.

however i think they will include the overground pass in the new interchange.. maybe there is also going to be an additional one only for pedestrians to connect JLT and Marina, not sure if the tunnel really reaches JLT.

Will need to make it convenient for all the 100,000 Marina residents surely! Don't see why JLT should get all the fun.

Dubai Marina will get a TRAM and a more upscale Bus Line

^^ source?

^^ There is a tunnel being constructed close to the Marina Mall, must be for pedestrian access to Marina from JLT side.
I think this tunnel is only to facilitate car traffic from SZR to enter the marina mall parking. pedestrians would have to cross SZR otherwise.... :badnews:

Dubai Marina will get a TRAM and a more upscale Bus Line

This one I can vouch for. The source is linked to somewhere on my website. Instead of trying to dig it up, I'll just add that this was in Gulf News several months ago. The tram will run along Al Sufouh road. Presumably it would link up with the metro. In keeping in line with this theme, the authorities might (I hope) outfit the JLT/DM station(s) with moving sidewalks at least, like in airports.

^^ source?


the Tram to Jumeirah and Burj Al Arab will also serve the Marina Beach part.

the bus line was approved by Sheikh Mohammed some time ago.

the Tram to Jumeirah and Burj Al Arab will also serve the Marina Beach part.

the bus line was approved by Sheikh Mohammed some time ago.

Come'on flo... Nobody will use a BUS line.... Maybe the daycare person or the nanny but certainly not you or any one else on this board. The thought alone makes me shiver! :toilet:

Public transport is for poor people. :)

^^ Exactly the attitude we dont need to solve Dubai's traffic problems

i've been using buses for 8 years now, twice daily.

however i am using my car now since it is more convenient due to my timetable.

it always depends on how good and comfortable the service is.

For me - monorail yes, bus no. Shame it will be so difficult for marina residents to get the monorail it seems. This will not help traffic. 100,000 mostly posh residents who do not like buses.

Christ some of you are stuck up, you wouldn't use a bus, WTF? Every time I go to Dublin I get the bus, more than 4 hours up and the same back down.

The metro line itself surely won't zigzag across SZR, so any station on the Marina side will still require passage under or above SZR to reach the train line, right?

Can you share your source for location of the new stations? It certainly would be great of there is one near the superblock even if on the JLT side. But wouldn't that put it too close to the proposed American university station? If you have a link, I'd surely like to see it.

That tunnel from the Marina Mall construction site runs under the Marina Ring road but opens up at ground level with SZR. So it doesn't lead at all across SZR to the JLT side.
The source for this is here:
It's a blown up map so quality is crap but you can see there's a new jlt stop. Seems like a 5 to 10 minute walk and I bet even the laziest of you people will be willing to make this trip when all the new developments are complete and the traffic REALLY gets going :)

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I think the stations will have bridges to cross the highway. They'd be stupid not to

http://www.gulfnews.com/images/06/10/05/06_ae_dubai_metro09_5.jpg


edit: buses on already congested roads isn't the greatest idea.

10 minute walk to the station from the Marina. Is there going to be a bus service from the marina to the station ? :rofl:

it's clear this forum is full of "im too rich for public buses" kinda ppl.. hopefully that's just here and not widespread in dubai.

^^ ok there were two people now, that is not yet the majority Samir :D

ok ... rephrase that to there are TWO ppl :sleepy:

Try getting a bus in the suburbs of london on a friday night, you will soon change your mind. The bus will stop every 5 minutes while the police are called because of a fight.

Today's Gulf News (print edition) was wrapped up in a banner celebrating the planned Metro. Read about it here (http://dm-blog.blogspot.com/2006/10/four-metro-stations-for-dubai-marina.html).

On the RTA website, the following graphic appears:

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The graphic on the newspaper banner was much more detailed, showing a map of the city so one could identify more precisely where the stations are located. Unfortunately I can't scan that at the moment. It appears to be a revision of the map posted by Malec.

The newspaper banner also includes a link: www.dubaimetro.ae (http://www.dubaimetro.ae/) which is not actually set up yet--it diverts to a different address. This leads me to suspect that a new site with a lot more info is in the works.

I guess we've gotten way off on a Metro tangent on this thread. I'm sure someone won't be liking that so much. To get back a bit to the MAG 218 you can check out a brief post where I discuss the metro with regard to the MAG 218-- Dubai Metro & the MAG 218 (http://mag218.blogspot.com/2006/10/dubai-metro-mag-218.html).

I agree with steve.

Buses in England are not good. If you do go on a bus make sure you take a weapon

I agree with steve.

Buses in England are not good. If you do go on a bus make sure you take a weapon

And if you do I hope you are arrested and punished through the courts!!:lock:

Now lets get back to the subject matter!!

This aerial shot (www.choppershoot.com) puts the MAG 218 location into perspective--visible in the lower central part of the photo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Upandhi/Dubai%20Marina/Blog-Aerial-001.jpg (http://mag218.blogspot.com/2006/10/recent-aerial-views.html)

Look closely and you see that there is enough space for the Shopping Mall to come up between MAG 218 and the Pinnacle, even if the plot is a bit narrower than the two tower plots.

Look across the road and notice it will be easy to fit another tower between Marina Heights and the Torch.

Yes still think the Emaar development might extend between TT and MH with a tower between and hopefully a shopping area further back. Quite a long walk to central marina from here in the heat and some of the most expensive apartments are here need some local facilities.

27.10.2006 By Imre

So great. Can see the piles!!! :omg:

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"We found water. .. WE ARE RICH"

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Christ some of you are stuck up, you wouldn't use a bus, WTF? Every time I go to Dublin I get the bus, more than 4 hours up and the same back down.


The source for this is here:
It's a blown up map so quality is crap but you can see there's a new jlt stop. Seems like a 5 to 10 minute walk and I bet even the laziest of you people will be willing to make this trip when all the new developments are complete and the traffic REALLY gets going :)

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9629/untitled1ak1.jpg


I think the stations will have bridges to cross the highway. They'd be stupid not to

http://www.gulfnews.com/images/06/10/05/06_ae_dubai_metro09_5.jpg


edit: buses on already congested roads isn't the greatest idea.


2 Metro stations will be on the JLT site

1. opposite Al Mas
2. opposite Green Lakes Towers

this is a plan for today ... but still possible some another places...

2 for jlt wud be too much in my opinion

since they are connected to Marina, 2 of them are fairly enough.

it is quite some distance from one end to the other..

Good progress being made at the MAG 218 site as piling and excavation are almost completed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Upandhi/Dubai%20Marina/MAG%20218-30%20Nov%2006/IMG_3291.jpg
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A little prayer never hurts. A whole lot more photos at the website (http://mag218photos.blogspot.com/).

The prayers seem to be working, looks very neat compared to the Torch.

Yes, it does look a lot more organised & tidy!

Very true. It used to look like a big jumble on the MAG 218 site. I also had thought progress on the Torch was ahead, but within the last month, they've got the pit looking really good on the MAG.

mag was launched long time before the torch though. anyway. does look like piling will be done soon.

main contractor waiting!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Upandhi/Dubai%20Marina/MAG%20218-30%20Nov%2006/IMG_3290b.jpg

Can't be for tower's elevator shaft because tower is set to rise more toward center of the plot. Elevator shaft for podium? Mechanical/Plumbing room? Any thoughts?

Water pumps?

Leave your flat in the MAG 218 and meet a friend for lunch at the Trump Tower on the Palm Jumeirah in 20 minutes--traffic not a factor. Read how... (http://mag218.blogspot.com/2006/12/dubai-metro-mag-218-2.html)

MAG 218

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Wow! Thanks for all the updates Imre. I have a question which at least in this forum I won't seem stupid for asking. I realize that the piles, once embedded have to be cut down to level with the concrete chipped away. What I don't understand is why all the metal rods are made all the same level, so nice and neat. What is all this for?:dunno:

So the update pictures look nice :). I'm sure someone like True Blue , AltinD or others will be able to answer the question.

Wow! Thanks for all the updates Imre. I have a question which at least in this forum I won't seem stupid for asking. I realize that the piles, once embedded have to be cut down to level with the concrete chipped away. What I don't understand is why all the metal rods are made all the same level, so nice and neat. What is all this for?:dunno:

What they call bond anchorage length. The minimum is 40 times the bar diameter but depends on the design loads. You want the piles to be securely fixed to the raft slab or it would be like a table with loose legs and that would not be good.

By "bar" do you mean the rebar rods that stick out--so the height of these rods sticking out need to be at least 40x their width? I noticed on some old photos from the Marina Pinnacle site that these bars were only at about one-quarter the length of those at the MAG site, but the buildings are roughly of the same size. Does this mean anything?

One other technical question. It looks like some of the pile columns--all of which were cast in place--seem crumbly, as though this casting method is not very thorough. Is this an issue?

^^
1.Yes.
2.Yes.
3. Have not seen the Marina Pinnacle pics so can't really comment, maybe they were not finished (waiting for exact cut off height from Engineer for example)
4. They are not crumbly, they may look like that in pictures after they have been pounded with jack hammers for hours!

3. Maybe the ones seen on Marina Pinacle site were seen sticking out of the raft foundation.

BTW, when the raft is completed, there are bars sticking out, are those the same bars of the piles (those x40 longer then wide)

^^ MP for answer.

Thanks for that rundown at MP thread. I repost the MP work from late February to offer comparison:

http://i1.tinypic.com/okn49f.jpg

It doesn't look like AltinD's theory about the foundation already having been poured is correct as it appears some pile head's have not even been broken yet, or else the foundation has only been partially laid. It all looks rather odd to my untrained eyes.

Reading TrueBlue's explanation one might hope that if there was a problem there, then it was adequately addressed. "If there is a project manager in attendance..." you say. This is what worries so many people about these projects. Are the people required in attendance and if present are they adequately experienced or trained?

^^ thanks for the update

http://mag218gallery.blogspot.com/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Upandhi/Dubai%20Marina/MAG%20218-30%20Nov%2006/IMG_3290b.jpg

Can't be for tower's elevator shaft because tower is set to rise more toward center of the plot. Elevator shaft for podium? Mechanical/Plumbing room? Any thoughts?
That's most likely where they will pour the foundation for the tower crane. The concrete in that square will secure the tower crane until there's enough structure built that it can attach to for support.

^^ I have never seen that. Always the foundations (piles and raft) are completed and then the main contractor moves in, installing the crane, that is never erected (As far as I have seen) on fixed foundations.

Could be a good shout Colemonkee.

Here is another tower where the crane base was installed as you describe.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5444/img3480sj0.jpg

To be honest, I'm not very familiar with how they install tower cranes in Dubai. They move too fast for me to see it. ;) But that's a fairly common way in the US, so that's what I assumed. How do they usually secure the cranes at first? They have to anchor them somehow so that lateral forces like wind don't topple them before there's enough building structure to support them.

^^ I have never seen that. Always the foundations (piles and raft) are completed and then the main contractor moves in, installing the crane, that is never erected (As far as I have seen) on fixed foundations.

I was told by a worker--the evening watchman--that the pit was for plumbing. I'm not really convinced.

i heard that costruction is set to be not mid 2008 but end 2009.
Is this a fake? (i hope yes)
Someoe can tell me something more?

Thanks!

I keep forgetting that most investors don't have any idea how long things take.

Earliest 2009!

stuning tower

That's most likely where they will pour the foundation for the tower crane. The concrete in that square will secure the tower crane until there's enough structure built that it can attach to for support.


Indoor pool :lol:

i heard that costruction is set to be not mid 2008 but end 2009.
Is this a fake? (i hope yes)
Someoe can tell me something more?

Thanks!

nope not fake. If they start building floors now end of 2009 is likely ;)

Update!!!!!! Is the ground floor done?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Upandhi/MAG%20218%20Tower/IMG_4119.jpg
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Of course no where near ground floor, but progress is good. A crane is now in place and the iron rods being laid out should mean the foundation will soon be poured. I believe the progress on this one is slightly ahead of the Torch, Princess, 23 Marina, Infinity and the like.

^^:eek: THX :okay: :master:

Ready to rise!!!

thinking of how early it was launched they are doing good in being ahead of torch, infinity etc..

completion was 2007 at the very beginning :lol:

^^ I don't mind that (obviously I have nothing to loose financially), what I don't want to happen is a repeat of Marina Pinacle. That building is still just a few floors above ground, maybe the construction has even halted :bash:

I don't think 2007 was ever suggested as a completion date for MAG 218. The earliest date ever given was 1st quarter 2008. There was an article introducing the MAG 218 some time back, where in the same article reference was made to MAG 214, of which it was stated that completion would be in 2007. It is easy to misread the article to think the date was in reference to 218. At any rate, the official word for MAG 218 completion is end 2008, while the unofficial word is mid-2009.

I know this thread is not the right place, but why, AltinD, do you suggest that Marina Pinnacle work has slowed down. That tower seems to be rising quite well. Are you aware of anything having come up to stall it?

^^ I don't see any real progress on MP. (I'm not saying it has stalled) It is crowling as a yellow turtle (pun intented)

Does anyone know anything about the company, Al Rashad Contracting (RCC), the designated main contractor for the MAG 218? I have scrounged up as much as I could find (http://mag218topics.blogspot.com/2007/01/al-rashad-contracting-company-rcc.html) on the net, which amounted to very little. :ohno:

First time i hear about them. Having the office in Intercontinental Plazza makes me think that they might be a construction company from another Arab country, just entering Dubai market.

Seeing that Transemirates Contracting is just completing MAG 214 in JLT I was thinking they'll get the job here as well. They did Marina Crown nearby and are doing Khalid Bin Al Attar Tower in SZR.

There is apparently a company in Jordan by the same name, so I suppose there's a connection. Transemirates either never bid for MAG 218 or perhaps their asking price was too high. The weird thing is that all the workers wear MAG Contracting uniforms but I was told by the project manager that this is a RCC job. In any case, whether MAG contracting or RCC, it looks like this is basically a new outfit sewing its oats on the 218.

26/01/2007

MAG 218

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all the sites on upper marina seem identical.. piling completed and ready to launch

^^ Thought exactly the same.

02.02.2007

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Construction site looks tidy and proper. Good sign...

This is what the Torch should look like with the main reinforcement going down, lift pit finished and tanked and labour clearly visible. No problems here, Good!

old ad

http://www.magpd.com/images/Millionaire_rolup.jpg

VERY OLD AD... Me thinks they where raising prices as part of their marketing plan since sales where absolutely flat for apartments back then.

16.02.2007

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A crane is up on the site

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(posted earlier in another thread)

Seems to me Mag218 has overtaken Torch

^^ Of course it has. They are preparing for the raft foundation now and overall they are up to a couple of months more advanced in the construction progress.

However it remains to be seen when the building of the main structure will start. The Torch might be faster and cactch up then, however being much taller, stands almost no chance of topping up first.

09.03.2007

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when for the first floor costruction? not more of this summer i hope.

This site is really buzzing with activity day and night. The progress now is rapid. B3, the lowest basement floor is being built up with concrete being poured for the walls. I expect it will be at B2 in a week or two. There are dozens of people on the site day and night and a second crane is being erected. I wouldn't be surprised if it reaches ground level in a month to six weeks.

Excellent, can't wait for this one to start rising! Any pics GoDubai?

Great news GoDubai! Finally a new tower rise at Tallest Block

Can someone take pics while IMRE is away? Have they poured the slab??
The next few months should be a buzz of activity in thi spart of the marina.

If only someone would set up a time lapse camera to take a picture once/twice a day of the tallest block!

Lapse camera is a great idea. Any takers in Marina Hieghts or Al Seef Tower. I have a photo which I'll upload soon of the MAG 218 progress--from two days ago. The slab has been poured, which now constitutes the floor of B3. The interior walls of B3 are being erected--lots of rebar and concrete pours--so I think the floor of B2 will be soon in coming. The thing that seems to set the MAG 218 site apart is that they have a vacant plot beside them where all materials are in place to progress without interruption.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Upandhi/MAG%20218%20Tower/img_4704.jpg

What you see here is B3, the built up area above the slab foundation which was poured to a depth of 2+ meters. The walls are being prepared with steel rebar then encased for the pouring of concrete. This photo was taken on 28 March. One day later several of the walls had already been poured. The support for a second tower crane can also be seen. Just at the top left edge of the photo a little of the adjacent area where all the supplies are stored is visible. This is why I say the that the floor for B2 is only days or a week or so away. So we could be at ground level within a month.

tnx for the great update! great to see it rising

They've clearly pressed 'Go' on this one - just wish other towers nearby would also get motoring like this!

Thanks for all the updates.

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Has the B2 floor been poured? If not then maybe this weekend?

http://i14.tinypic.com/2hd9u6a.jpg

Scoot68,
Can you get a pic of the the whole plot from your place? If you could take a picture say once every 2 weeks from the same place and post it here I will try and collate them and make a time lapse.

Many thanks!

Can't get the whole plot in...you can see there on the top left of pic the red nav light of MHT. Perhaps someone in a Mediacity facing apartment could do it.

Was at the plot tonight, 12 April. They are nearing a pour for B2. The plywood molding in which the concrete is to be poured is largely in place. Within a week, the B2 floor should be there.

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13/April/2007

MAG 218 Tower (crane installation)

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Kind of funny, Scoot, that you can only get a portion of the plot, but nice anyway to see some of what is going on. Looks like any day now they'll be able to pour the floor for B2. I thought it would've happenned by now, but it seems the pace has slowed a bit from 2-3 weeks ago. At that time, even at night there was a lot going on. I know there's night work even now, but it seems to have a quarter as many people as before.

^^ funnier still I thought that cement pump truck was a helicopter when I first glanced down there.

Progress is probably limited by the supply of cement ...?

It would be nice, Scoot, to see some full shots of the Number 5 interchange work too, if you can get that. It's amazing how fast they are working on that and so crazy to look it--even crazier to drive thru! It's just incredible the way this whole place is getting built up. Some people say its wierd how they tear up roads that are just two or three years old. True--it is wierd. But at least, the get the new stuff up in break neck speed. Only the towers seem to take forever!

^^ Posted by Scoot68 on the appropriate thread, exactly 1 h 41 min before you asked for it:

http://i18.tinypic.com/33jmuyb.jpg


:)

Thanks, both of you. Was too lazy to go looking around. (Cheers, Hanna style! :cheers: )

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NICE PICS.
THIS TOWER IS GOING TO BE GREAT

27/04/2007

MAG 218

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Where did you get all these renders Imre?

from the developer (MAG)

The B2 concrete pour already began a few days ago with the side area including the car ramp from B3 to B2 being first. Not sure if the rest of B2 has been poured yet. It's good to see the continued progress, but it seems to have slowed from a few weeks ago. At that time I thought we might see a new podium level every 2 weeks, while now it seems more like every 3 weeks. The podium in total consists of B3+G+P4 (8 levels). 6 of 8 levels remaining at a pace of 3 weeks each would suggest another 18 weeks (4 months plus--up to September) to finish the podium. Hopefully, it will move faster than that.

nice! :cheers:
But why is there always a little chinese guy walking in the side in most renders.....not only this, but of other towers as well??

^^ I've heard someone say that it's because people are using the same software product to design this renders--which is probably true. It makes you wonder how much we can really rely on such renders when in fact they may be more reflective of a software tool than of the real thing to come. That being said, the GM of MAG PDD has said repeatedly that the images are to be considered 95% accurate.

Something from the Pinnacle thread related to MAG 218 height:

...it is usually referred to as having 66 floors. In reality it is B3+G+P4+2 technical floors+community floor+55 regular+roof-top technical... total 67. Sometimes the roof-top technical floor is not added to the count as it doesn't cover the entire floor area--but still includes an enclosed area which should count as a floor. Omitting the basement floors you are left with a count of 63 or 64. But the developer goes on to give a 275 meter height which I believe is impossible. Up to the top of the highest floor (just below the roof-top techincal) the architectual drawings indicate 220 meters. Another 50 meters for the roof element is quite impossible, unless the antenna/spires are counted. At best MAG 218 will be 250 meters.

I never was really comfortable with the 275 meter height we have listed for MAG 218.

Somemore of my half photos :nuts:

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great! the steel has reached streetlevel :banana:

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wow looks like MAG will be the first one to rise here

Mag 218 was all the time a bit further in comparison to the torch and 23 marina :)

18/May/2007

MAG 218

almost the street level:)

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http://i11.tinypic.com/5znacza.jpg

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^^
It appears that daytime temperatures are still not too high to allow to pour concrete.

http://i12.tinypic.com/4tkp94p.jpg

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Can only assume that inner access road will later become the footpath...

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Can only assume that inner access road will later become the footpath...

Excellent progress!

I saw today from my car , some places they reached the street level:)

http://i15.tinypic.com/4p1vbk2.jpg

http://i14.tinypic.com/6h3w8eo.jpg

so it's finally above ground level.. great!

great to see that

http://i13.tinypic.com/4m8j5us.jpg

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cool picture there over the swimming pool ;)

^^ Lol reminds me of the scene in War of the Worlds when the tripods rise out of the ground. And we yelling to that guy sitting there... 'look out! Behind you! and he's all yeah like I'm really going to fall for that again':lol:

I for a moment (just saw it, concentrated on some other staff I was doing), was like: What ... another site went under " :lol:


Edit: I'm talking about the swimming pool picture .

http://i10.tinypic.com/62foe9v.jpg

http://i8.tinypic.com/63bgol1.jpg

The tower has reached ground level

15/June/2007

MAG 218

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Thanks Imre, it's so convinient to see progress without actually visiting site! Also good progress, let's hope it continues like this.

23 Marina beat MAG to it...

http://i15.tinypic.com/4p1vbk2.jpg

http://i14.tinypic.com/6h3w8eo.jpg

^^ Check the bald guy in the pool, hardley any ressistance :) . Now there is one benefit of being bald if anyone needed one!

maybe its another alien :-)

:lol:

does anyone when the official completion is supposed to be?

Officially, the developer is saying mid-2009--the main contractor is also saying so. But knowing how things tend to go and considering that date is still 2 years off, it would seem prudent to expect up to another 6 months more. So, my bets are on end 2009. Construction also didn't really begin until Feb/Mar 2006. So for this 66-floor tower anything upto 4-years from start is within the realm of a normal timeframe.

29/June/2007

MAG 218 Tower

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Hi Godubai
Your words are little disappointing, I thought it would be earlier than mid 2009.

^^ How things are now it cannot be before that, if what the analists predict come true (no machineries, no materials), expect even more delays.

But this prediction may not effect all developers or all projects. If the developer or contractor had already secured the equipment/supplies months in advance, then they should still be able to receive these.

06/July/2007

MAG 218 Tower

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20/July/2007

MAG 218 Tower

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http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7100/imresolt102dd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

03/Aug/2007

Mag 218 Tower

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I need some expert advice. I have a 1BR in MAG 218 and now want to upgrade to 2BR. Should I retain this and buy one more 1BR or sell this and get new 2BR. Which is a better choice. The main purpose is investment. How do you value this location in future, is it worth another investment. Thanks in advance.

I need some expert advice. I have a 1BR in MAG 218 and now want to upgrade to 2BR. Should I retain this and buy one more 1BR or sell this and get new 2BR. Which is a better choice. The main purpose is investment. How do you value this location in future, is it worth another investment. Thanks in advance.

Definitely buy another one bed. If you look at most developments the one beds sell out much sooner than two beds, so if you wanted to sell them on in the future should be easier. Also rental returns per sq foot should be slightly better with one beds. And........you'll have a car parking space for each one bed - most two beds only have a one space, so could be more difficult to let out to tenants who have more than one car between them.

Thanks Morris, I had the same view but needed second opinion. DM is a good project but time period for all these towers is bit frustating. We need lot of patience to hold on.

I agree with Morris regarding two 1-beds vs one 2-bed, however, if it were me I would first investigate other properties--i.e. other towers/projects, in order to diversify a bit. Check out others in the tallest block, for example, to keep things simple or go with the larger Marina. You might even explore other developments (JLT, B-Bay, J-Village, etc), but that could be a lot of work. Finally, if you are willing to take a tip from me, I would consider RAK for a second property. Prices are lower than Dubai and it could turn into a high demand getaway destination for Dubai's many (in the future) burnt out city-dwellers.

I need some expert advice. I have a 1BR in MAG 218 and now want to upgrade to 2BR. Should I retain this and buy one more 1BR or sell this and get new 2BR. Which is a better choice. The main purpose is investment. How do you value this location in future, is it worth another investment. Thanks in advance.

for investing better if you have 2pcs 1B/R , easy to rent out and easy to sell it .

Seven floors (4 below, 3 above ground).

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hopefully it'll speed up

started the next floor, I am sure that this tower will be overtaking the Marina Pinnacle

Yes good progress here. :banana:

hopefully it'll speed up


A floor in a week? That's fast for a podium.

17/Aug/2007

MAG 218 Tower

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Is that soil testing going on on the pentominium site? :)

Imre , is that Princess on the left in your first pic?

No it's Pinnacle......... which is rising at a floor a month.

No it's Pinnacle......... which is rising at a floor a month.

Shame on you Morris, Tut tut :ohno:

Marina pinacle 18th August 2006 at Basement 2 level
http://i8.tinypic.com/24x1l35.jpg

Today

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Thats about 24 floors including the podium. in exactly 1 year. They are currently bettering 2 floors a month.