5 best cities in Europe 2004

[pabloXXX]

1) Warsaw [Poland]
2) London [United Kingdom]
3) Frankfurt [Germany]
4) Saarbrucken [Germany]
5) Paris [France]

[wanton6]

1) Istanbul
2) Paris
3) Barcelona
4) Prague
5) Rome

[Basel_United]

? Saarbrücken ? What`s happened in Saarbrücken this year?

[TeKnO_Lx]

1- Lisbon(Euro 2004)
2- Athens (Olimpics04)
3- Barcelona(simply de best)
4- Amesterdam(keep it smokin :) )
5- Rome(MTV european music awards)

[pabloXXX]

Istanbul in Europe??? its Asia?

PS. Saarbrucken its verry nice city in west Germany, mountains around the city, castle ect. Whats new in saarbrucken? hmm dont know.. i hope i'll be there in 2005

[Fern]

In no particular order:
Lisbon
London
Paris
Barcelona
Prague

[Fern]

Istanbul in Europe??? its Asia?

Half Asian half European. Although to me it should be just Asian

[Raddie]

Totally fantastic: Cologne, Paris, Rotterdam

Really good: London, Groningen, Angouleme, Amsterdam.
Quite good: Barcelona, Frankfurt.

[Schroedinger's Cat]

1.Paris
2.Frankfurt
3.Warsaw
4.London

[De Snor]

Paris - London - Barcelona - Lyon - Warsaw

[Ringil]

Paris
Rome
London
Stockholm
Sète :D

[designwise]

HELSINKI
HELSINKI
HELSINKI
HELSINKI
HELSINKI

:D

hehehe I also like Stockholm, St. Petersburg, London, Munich, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Rome, Paris & Prague.

[Urban Girl]

1)Istanbul(Eurovision song contest 2004, NATO summit)and my favourite city in the world;)
2)Athens(Olympic games 2004)
3)Lisbon(Euro 2004)
4)Rome(because i like this city)
5)uhm.. i dont know:)

[designwise]

5)uhm.. i dont know:)

Helsinki ? :D

[Urban Girl]

:lol:
ok, if you want;
5)HELSINKI :applause: :)

[blue_warsaw]

Paris
Warsaw
London
Franfurt
Rome

[pabloXXX]

hmm Helsinki.. yeah true - verry nice !

[Ringil]

hmm Helsinki.. yeah true - verry nice !
ehm.... stockholm! ;) the venice of the north :D

[arturranto]

1 Pcim
2 Siepraw
3 Mszana Dolna
4 Raciechowice
5 Wiśniowa
6 Węglówka
7 and... Warszawa

[Schroedinger's Cat]

1 Pcim
2 Siepraw
3 Mszana Dolna
4 Raciechowice
5 Wiśniowa
6 Węglówka
7 and... Warszawa

Forget about Ćućkowo Zdrój???
And Raciechowice should be before Mszana Dolna ! :nono:
;)

[sun&sun]

I don't know what Warsaw is doing in that list!

I would say :

No particular order
Paris
London
Moscow
Istanbul
Barcelona
Athens
Rome

[lord BaSzA]

1)Wrocław
2)London
3)Barcelona
4)Praha
5)Frankfurt

[Ringil]

1 Pcim
2 Siepraw
3 Mszana Dolna
4 Raciechowice
5 Wiśniowa
6 Węglówka
7 and... Warszawa

Do these cities(?) got an english/international name? :? what are so special about them?

[Schroedinger's Cat]

Do these cities(?) got an english/international name? :? what are so special about them?

forget it, it was only a joke ;)

[MIMICA]

My List:

1) Sarajevo (LOVE IT!)
2) Istanbul (Completely breath taking)
3) Paris (Do I really need an explanation? ;))
4) London (So...LONDON!)
5) Rome (Again, explanation not needed! :D)

[Istanbullu]

No order:

Istanbul
Rome
Paris
Athens(amazing olympics)
Lisbon(euro 2004)

[AUTO]

London
Paris
Rome
Warsaw
Prague

[sun&sun]

Is it only me who doesn't know much about Warsaw or why do you have all Warsaw in your list?I see, Warsaw is a very modern,developed and clean city but this doesn't make it to the top cities in Europe.Does Warsaw have something that I don't know?

For example

London has : Tower of London ,Buckingham Palace , British Museum ,Hyde Park , Madame Tussauds and Planetarium

Paris has :Eiffel Tower, Louvre , Notre Dame, Sacré Coeur ,Seine ,Arc de Triomphe , Champs Elysées ,Disneyland Paris,Moulin Rouge,Musée d'Orsay,Versailles,Place de la Concorde,Sainte-Chapelle

Istanbul has:Hagia Sophia,Blue Mosque,Topkaip Palace,located on 2 continents linked with gigantic brigdes,Grand Bazaar, Dolmabahce Palace,historical peninsula,maiden tower,miniaturk,Taksim district,F1 circuit

Moscow has : Red square, Kremlin palace, best mero stations (all of them are kind of museums),F1 circuit

Rome has : Coliseum, Vatican City, Roma forums, spanisch steps

Barcelona has : Temple de la Sagrada Familia,FC Barcelona,Parc Guell,Museu Picasso,Olympic circle,Aquarium of Barcelona

[DetoX]

Agree [ I think it is of overrate patriotic ]..

My list:

1. Paris (no doubt)
2. Barcelone (beautifull)
3. Berlin (I like it very much)
4. Madrit
5. Rome

[eomer]

Istanbul in Europe??? its Asia?

Istambul is an european city with asian suburbs.

[OlekD]

London
Kiev
Warsaw
Stockholm

[Kommentare]

Jurmala
Malmo
Ignalina
Torshavn
St. Moritz

[blue_warsaw]

I don't know what Warsaw is doing in that list!


She is one of the 5 best cities in Europe 2004

[Koniaczeq]

London
Berlin
Barcelona
Warsaw
Madrid


:D

[Ka-8]

1) Breslau (known now as Wrocław)
2) Berlin
3) Prague
4) Koeln (Cologne)
5) Wien

[Ka-8]

I don't know what Warsaw is doing in that list!

I fully agree! It had to appear there just by an accident. :)

[PyRoMaNiAc]

London
Prague
Paris
Frankfurt
Vienna

[Ringil]

1. Kiruna
2. Jokkmokk
3. Abisko
4. Haparanda
5. Jukkasjärvi
:D

[Saskaton]

1.London
2.Barcelona
3.Paris
4.Amsterdam
5.Frankfurt

[John]

1. London
2. Paris
3. Amsterdam
4. Hamburg
5. Vienna

:)

[Monkey]

London and Paris are easily the top 2 cities, let's not kid ourselves here.

1. London
2. Paris
3. Rome
4. Amsterdam
5. Barcelona

[FutureLOTpilot]

Warsaw
Madrid
Rotterdam
Moscow
London

Warsaw has Old Town, Royal Castle, Wilanow palace, Lazienki palace on water,new metro, palace of culture and science, royal theater..... just to name a few.

[John]

London and Paris are easily the top 2 cities, let's not kid ourselves here.


Agreed here, it's just strange to see Warsaw being put over London or Paris by some people :|. The fact is that no other city in Europe is even close to these two and there's nothing wrong with this. :)

[DetoX]

With Paris - agree.. one of the best - easily

.. but London - not for me .. and many other people .. :(

Warsaw: no, not include - as I said: some of polish members are overdone :/

[lepied]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lenainmechant/grattecielfrst/photos/globalpano.jpg

[markus1234]

1. Paris
2. London
3. Rome
4. Berlin
5. Amsterdam

[blimey]

1. London (UK)
2. Paris (France)
3. Frankfurt am Main (Germany)
4. Amsterdam (NL)
5. Berlin (Germany)

[Matthieu]

If you look at the big cities.

1. Paris
2. Budapest
3. London
4. Brussels
5. St Petersbourg

But those aren't city I would live in. Just visit.

Here is another version.

1. Annecy
2. Monaco
3. Andorra la Vella
4. San Marino
5. La Valleta

[Schroedinger's Cat]

Where is this thread? This forum is called "Skyscrapers and skylines", some lists you guys posted are quite strange. ;)

[Kommandant Mark]

My list:

1. Warsaw
2. Paris
3. Frankfurt
4. Moscow
5. London

[Toneo]

1 London
2 Frankfurt
3 Paris
4 Barcelona
5 Madrid

[kony]

1. Paris
2. London
3. Roma
4. Madrid
5. Frankfurt (or Berlin, I have to visit both to choose)

[Imperial]

1.London
2.Paris
3.Warsaw
4.Frankfurt
5.Roma

[Mr. T]

1. Paris
2. Prague
3. Rome
4. London
5. Frankfurt

Honorable Mention: Lisbon, Istanbul, Warsaw, Brussels, Amsterdam, Athens, Barcelona

[Taha]

Paris
London
Istanbul
Madrid
Zurich

[birminghamculture]

1. London
2. Barcelona
3. Paris
4. Madrid
5. Copenhagen

[birminghamculture]

With Paris - agree.. one of the best - easily

.. but London - not for me .. and many other people .. :(

Warsaw: no, not include - as I said: some of polish members are overdone :/


Your opinion however, London is un-biasedly un-rivalled by any other city in Europe other then Paris.

[Kampflamm]

Helsinki
Turin
Vienna
Ljubljana
Brussels

[Koniaczeq]

Helsinki
Turin
Vienna
Ljubljana
Brussels


Why Helsinki and Brussels ?

[Kampflamm]

I don't know, I just like them.

[Koniaczeq]

I don't know, I just like them.

Mhm... I have the same with Berlin :) STrange :D

[Kampflamm]

Strange indeed.

[Koniaczeq]

:) You dont like this city ?

[Skyscraperkid2K4]

Its known as one of three major cities in the world.....................................................*drum roll*........................................................................omfg do i kneed to say it?.........berlin? no........paris? ROTFL NO...........

ITS LONDON
LONDON

[EarlyBird]

1.London
2.Barcelona
3.Paris
4.Rome
5.Amsterdam

[Geex]

London
Paris
Praque
Roma
Berlin

But still i like Vilnius most ;)

[Skyscraperkid2K4]

LONDON...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3a/800px-London_iss_c1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Bpalacejack.700px.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/PalaceOfWestminsterAtNight.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/London.millennium.bridge.arp.750pix.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/Trafalgar_square_night_panorama.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/London.eye.overallview.byday.arp.750pix.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Trafalgarsqu.canadahse.arp.750pix.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/Bank.of.england.arp.750pix.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Kew_gardens_glasshouse.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/Kew_gardens_pagoda.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Nhm-sm.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/BritNatural_History_Museum2.jpg

[Turbosnail]

All round best cities-
1.Barcelona
2.London
3.Rome
4.Montpellier
5.Wiesbaden

Skylines-
1.Paris
2.Frankfurt
3.London
4.Rotterdam
5.Benidorm

[sachs]

1- Prague

2- Saragossa

3- Warsaw

4- Viena

5- Lisbon

[TommyTOM2]

London
Paris
Berlin
Warsaw
Moscow

(+Amsterdam,Rome,Prague,Barcelona,Budapest,Gdańsk)

[Josh]

Brussels
Lille
Edinburgh
Barcelona
Prague

[AdamT]

LondON ;)
Warsaw
Krakow
Prague
Wroclaw
[ Stockholm, Paris, Rome, Budapest, Berlin, Amsterdam, Vienna, Barcelona, Brussels, Lisbon, Dublin, Athens, Vilnius, Riga, Copenhagen, Oslo, Reykjavik, Bratislava, Helsinki, Brno, Liverpool, Kiev, Odessa, S:t Petersburg, Lyon, Bern]

[Ringil]

PARIS-because its just perfect! the most beautiful place on earth.
Rome- very nice old buildings ;) and perfect weather.
Cagnes-sur-mer.- because I've grown up there and i just love it
Stockholm-the location is just perfect and the city is also very beautiful
London- its always nice to be in London, friendly people, nice accent. London is my favorite city when it comes to the people and feeling.

[Smileyface]

London
Rotterdam
Paris
Munich
Barcelona

[VoytekZ]

1) Breslau (known now as Wrocław)
2) Berlin
3) Prague
4) Koeln (Cologne)
5) Wien
Known always as Wroclaw :)

[VoytekZ]

But I like your pics so I will copy ;)

[artoor]

London remains my all time favourite.
Then:
Paris Barcelona Florence Berlin Stockholm Prague and Budapest

but wait a second... what actually means "best cities in 2004"?

[nukey]

artoor, I think every person will be making their own distinct value-judgements.

Guys and Gals, how bout from now on nobody nominates their home town. I think it skews the lists. I would definitely put London because I love my hometown so much, but i also know that my love for it is as unreasoned as was the date of my birthday, and I wouldnt be able to talk about my reasons for liking London so much without gushing a bit.

Anywho, my top five are:

http://www.arts.monash.edu.au/visual_culture/projects/diva/images/g7.jpg
1. Rome (I cant stop going back, all the history, all the clubs, its got everything)

http://www.nyu.edu/fas/summer/athens/ah_mystras.jpg
2. Mystras (no one said abandoned cities couldnt be here! and for someone whos into ruins this place rules)

http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/2000_images/Europe/LaVillette/villette04.jpg
3. Paris (the culture, the culture, the culture. I just LOVE how rude the Parisians are as well, its so atmospheric, and by god everyone is so F*ckng gorgeous. The only reason it is at number three is the underdeveloped night-life/music scene, in my opinion that is)

http://www.heidizone.com/photos/iceland/images/icepic2.jpg
4. Reyjkavik (for a place so small it has such a big personality, and bloody hell do Icelanders like to party! there was one place there that probably rated as the coolest bar i have ever been to: i think its called circus. If anyone is from iceland here, its a little bar on the next street off the main road after the turning to the 101 hotel)

http://www.donnamoderna.com/gente_vip/images/021001005470.jpg
5. St Tropez (for its GLORIOUS camp)


I just want to add that aside from personal taste the most important factor in these choices was the extent of my travels that havent taken me to so many places in europe. In the future I hope that il get to visit more of these wicked cities you all show pictures of...

[Lex]

Perhaps this thread refers to those European cities which had the greatest impact in the year of 2004.

1. Athens

2. Lisbon

3. Paris

4. London

5. Istanbul

[im_from_zw038]

you just can't forget amsterdam

[Giorgio]

Athens
Rome
Berlin
Lisbon
Barcelona

But all of Europe is Excellent and all others are jealous ;) GO EUROPE!

[Eddy]

London
Paris
Warsaw
Berlin
Barcelona

[Rik]

London
Paris
Amsterdam
Rotterdam
Madrid

[European1978]

Paris
Berlin
Barcelona
Milan
Rotterdam

[gm2263]

Can't choose. Europe overall has fabulous cities!!!

[Cobain]

London
Paris
Madrid
Amsterdam
Berlin

[AdamT]

Can't choose. Europe overall has fabulous cities!!!
This is so true! Ranking different cities is like for a parent to choose and rank thier children... quite impossible ;)

[Alter-Ego]

ROMA
.
.
.
.
.
Paris
Berlin
Milan
Madrid
Lisbon

[tonycro]

1.ZAGREB
2.PRAG
3.WIEN
4.PARIS
5.BERLIN

[Schroedinger's Cat]

Oh yes, Zagreb has lots of beautiful skyscrapers and nice skyline!

[bubach_hlubach]

Zapresic
Spickovina Donja
Bedekovcina
Marija Bistrica
Gornji Luzovec

[MIMICA]

now that i realised it, i feel guilty for even making a list. ALL EUROPEAN CITIES RULE EVERYTHING! :) anyone can admitt it, europe is the best, and it will always stay the best. most of our cities have great urban life, great history/culure, awsome nightlife, and beautiful women! :D

[Galandar]

I see many people have forgotten the name of this topic. You don't have to write your thoughts about the best cities of Europe, just write the best european cities of 2004.
My list:

1) Istanbul
2) Athens
3) Paris
4) Barcelona
5) Frankfurt
...............................................

[Van der Rohe]

Is it only me who doesn't know much about Warsaw or why do you have all Warsaw in your list?I see, Warsaw is a very modern,developed and clean city but this doesn't make it to the top cities in Europe.Does Warsaw have something that I don't know?

For example

London has : Tower of London ,Buckingham Palace , British Museum ,Hyde Park , Madame Tussauds and Planetarium

Paris has :Eiffel Tower, Louvre , Notre Dame, Sacré Coeur ,Seine ,Arc de Triomphe , Champs Elysées ,Disneyland Paris,Moulin Rouge,Musée d'Orsay,Versailles,Place de la Concorde,Sainte-Chapelle

Istanbul has:Hagia Sophia,Blue Mosque,Topkaip Palace,located on 2 continents linked with gigantic brigdes,Grand Bazaar, Dolmabahce Palace,historical peninsula,maiden tower,miniaturk,Taksim district,F1 circuit

Moscow has : Red square, Kremlin palace, best mero stations (all of them are kind of museums),F1 circuit

Rome has : Coliseum, Vatican City, Roma forums, spanisch steps

Barcelona has : Temple de la Sagrada Familia,FC Barcelona,Parc Guell,Museu Picasso,Olympic circle,Aquarium of Barcelona

I agree that Warsaw has a lot less attractions than London, Paris or Rome.

But Istanbul? Moscow? Sorry, but those two cities aren't more attractive than Warsaw. You say that F1 circuit is some great phaenomenal tourist attraction? I don't think so...

Of course some of those places in Istanbul or Moscow are very interesting, but Warsaw has also a set of architectural wonders: the medieval Old Town, The Royal Castle, beautiful baroque Wilanow Palace, the classical Lazienki Park with the Palace on the Water, Ujazdowski Castle, many noble palaces, 4th best modern skyline in Europe, the famous Palace of Culture and Science, The Great Theatre, modern bridges, Kampinoski National Park...

[frutino82]

1. Kopenhagen
2. Vienna
3. Berlin
4. Strasbourg
5. Paris

[yxz]

I agree that Warsaw has a lot less attractions than London, Paris or Rome.

But Istanbul? Moscow? Sorry, but those two cities aren't more attractive than Warsaw. You say that F1 circuit is some great phaenomenal tourist attraction? I don't think so...

Of course some of those places in Istanbul or Moscow are very interesting, but Warsaw has also a set of architectural wonders: the medieval Old Town, The Royal Castle, beautiful baroque Wilanow Palace, the classical Lazienki Park with the Palace on the Water, Ujazdowski Castle, many noble palaces, 4th best modern skyline in Europe, the famous Palace of Culture and Science, The Great Theatre, modern bridges, Kampinoski National Park...


Moscow and Istanbul aren't more attractive than Warsaw?I don't know Moscow may be not that attractvie to all people but Istanbul definitly is!Istanbul is the only city on two continents,the only city which was the capital of three empires.It's a living ancient city with the best location that a city can have.I don't even consider the old(old means for Istanbul 1500-2000 years) buildgins,monuments,I don't consider the nightlife or the skyscrpaers.I'm just talking about its history and location and that's enough to beat Warsaw.

[pabloXXX]

Moscow and Istanbul aren't more attractive than Warsaw?I don't know Moscow may be not that attractvie to all people but Istanbul definitly is!Istanbul is the only city on two continents,the only city which was the capital of three empires.It's a living ancient city with the best location that a city can have.I don't even consider the old(old means for Istanbul 1500-2000 years) buildgins,monuments,I don't consider the nightlife or the skyscrpaers.I'm just talking about its history and location and that's enough to beat Warsaw.

yyyyyyy... i really dont think so...
1) Istanbul is not in Europe... maybe small part
2) Warsaw have more monuments
3) Warsaw have great conection.. old city + modern architecture.. ect.
4) its one of culture's centers of Europe

[Spitfire]

London
Paris
Berlin
Frankfurt
Stockholm

[yxz]

yyyyyyy... i really dont think so...
1) Istanbul is not in Europe... maybe small part
2) Warsaw have more monuments
3) Warsaw have great conection.. old city + modern architecture.. ect.
4) its one of culture's centers of Europe

I see you don't have any idea about Istanbul.The real city is located on the european continent.In asia you'll mainly suburbs.Warsaw doen't have more monuments,the great connection that you tell exist in Istanbul.Curches,mosques,synogos,greek quaters,italian quarters,skyscrapers,historical island!I hople our turkish friends send us some pictures.I took some last year during my visit but I don't know where to upload them :(

[ASIMOV]

1) Istanbul
2) Paris
3) Rome
4) Venice
5) Florence

[Wicky]

1) London
2) Paris
3) Vienna
4) Varsaw
5) Prague

[Ringil]

yyyyyyy... i really dont think so...
1) Istanbul is not in Europe... maybe small part
2) Warsaw have more monuments
3) Warsaw have great conection.. old city + modern architecture.. ect.
4) its one of culture's centers of Europe

I see you really got big thoughs about Warsaw. Can it be like that you're from Warsaw ;)? very naive thoughs about the rest of the world, it seems. Go travel some or read a book before you start talking about things you apparently dont know much about.

Istanbul/Constantinopel is one of the greatest cities in Europe/Asia, it has been the capital of two great empires.

The best cities in Europe 2005are:
Paris
London
Rome
Florence
Stockholm
:D

[I'mBack]

My favourite 5 are (in alphabetical order):

Granada
Lisbon
Paris
Rome
Venice

[marek bielski]

I can see that people here are very imparcial

This thread should be renamed: Vote for your home city as the top 5 in Europe. ;)

Warsaw? Hehe it is not even number one in Poland. Krakow has that destinction hands down ...

[Ringil]

I can see that people here are very imparcial

This thread should be renamed: Vote for your home city as the top 5 in Europe.

Warsaw? Hehe it is not even number one in Poland. Krakow has that destinction hands down ...

I agree..... you can vote for every city you want, but it cant be your own, or a city in your country ;)

[DetoX]

hmm, just don`t read PabloXXX posts - he is a selfish and damn over patriotic.

[pabloXXX]

hmm, just don`t read PabloXXX posts - he is a selfish and damn over patriotic.

hmm, detoxie to nie czytaj ! po co tu jestes.. idz se pobiegaj i skoncz o mnie pisac glupio.

[newreality]

Warsaw? Hehe it is not even number one in Poland. Krakow has that destinction hands down ...

How many skyscrapers does Krakow have?

[DetoX]

hmm, detoxie to nie czytaj ! po co tu jestes.. idz se pobiegaj i skoncz o mnie pisac glupio.

Och, tylko się nie zmocz.

[Washingtonian]

Rome
Istanbul
London
Paris
Moscow

[pie3ge]

Genoa :)
Rome
Berlin
London
Amsterdam

[CborG]

Schoonhoven
Bronckhorst
St. Niklaas
Pápa
Oost-vlieland

[Monkey]

London
Paris
Rome
Milan
Amsterdam

[falconi]

Istanbul
Paris
Frankfurt
London
Vienna

[Munch]

The thing about Europe is that all the cities are awesome because they have all developed in their own way for different reasons due to different influences. The diversity of experience is huge, but always stimulating and fun!!!

I no order, just run your eyes ober these names, some of the most famous cities in the world!!!

London
Amsterdam
Barcelona
Edinburgh
Rome
Rotterdam
Prague
Moscow
Helsinki
Istanbul
Warsaw
Venice
Madrid
Stockholm
Oxford
Athens
Lisbon
Milan
Berlin
Florence
Copenhagen
Frankfurt
Paris

^^^^^ 23, in no order, and just a sample!!
You can not find a higher concentration of stunning cities with so much diversity and culture anywhere else on the planet!!!!

If i had to chose 5 of my very favourite........, i simply havent experienced enough!!

[Lex]

Perhaps someone can consolidate the results and set up a poll for the best European city in 2004.

[Raddie]

Total hits till now (only including lists with 4 or 5 cities, excluding supposedly joke posts, excluding double posts)

Warsaw 15
London 43
Frankfurt 15
Saarbrucken 1
Paris 46
Istanbul 10
Barcelona 19
Prague 13
Rome 25
Lisbon 8
Athens 6
Amsterdam 10
Lyon 1
Stockholm 5
Wroclaw 3
Sarajevo 1
Berlin 15
Madrid 9
Kiev 1
Jurmala 1
Malmo 1
Ignalina 1
Torshavn 1
St. Moritz 1
Cologne 1
Vienna 9
Hamburg 1
Rotterdam 4
Moscow 4
Budapest 1
Brussels 3
St. Petersburg 1
Zurich 1
Copenhagen 2
Helsinki 1
Turin 1
Ljubljana 1
Montpellier 1
Wiesbaden 1
Zaragoza 1
Lille 1
Edinburgh 1
Krakow 1
Cagnes-sur-mer 1
Munich 1
Mystras 1
Reykjavik 1
St Tropez 1
Milan 1
Granada 1
Zagreb 1
Strasbourg 1
Venice 2
Florence 2
Genoa 1

[wholagun]

interesting trend - all the western europeaners vote for mostly western european cities, while the eastern europeaners vote a mix.

[OlekD]

interesting trend - all the western europeaners vote for mostly western european cities, while the eastern europeaners vote a mix.


People from Western Europe are kept in the dark and don't know how beautiful EE is :). I hope it will change in the near future :)

[Petr]

People from Western Europe are kept in the dark and don't know how beautiful EE is :). I hope it will change in the near future :)
I hope so either, especialy after EU enlargement.

[OlekD]

I hope so either, especialy after EU enlargement.


First stats are hopeful. Amount of visitors is higher and higher. So, In my opinion it is possible that in couple of years the division between Old and New Europe won't be so visible.

[Petr]

First stats are hopeful. Amount of visitors is higher and higher. So, In my opinion it is possible that in couple of years the division between Old and New Europe won't be so visible.
Now everything depends on lowcost airlines.

[Ashes]

London
Paris
Berlin
Frankfurt
Stockholm

[Petr]

London
Paris
Berlin
Frankfurt
Stockholm
Anagorn don't spam. ;)

[Munch]

SO it seems that London(43) and Paris(46) are by far and away the leaders here, is that the general opinion??

It will be interesting to see what happens over the next two decades.

[Monkey]

SO it seems that London(43) and Paris(46) are by far and away the leaders here, is that the general opinion??

Well, they are 2 of the world's top 4 cities (the others being New York and Tokyo). They are major world cities and there is undoubtedly a significant gap between them and the next best European cities.

[Lss911]

Lisbon (euro 2004, 4th place in the world in congress hosting, Rock in Rio...;) Athens (Olympic games); Barcelona (because of it dinamism and the forum barcelona 2004); London (considered the capital of industrial design and is having a great increasing of dinamism and modernity); Prague (keep being one of the most beautifull cities in the world and for the join in the European Union)

[I'mBack]

In alphabetical order:

Istanbul
Lisbon
Paris
Rome
Venice

[triboro]

Frankfurt?????

I don't get it.

Nor do I drab and dreary Warsaw.

Katowice laughs at Warsaw.

[Janis_LV]

BERILIN - LONDON - MADRID

[Bass]

Katowice laughs at Warsaw.


So you're actually saying Warsaw is even worse than Katowice? Well, thanks, so I know I haven't missed a lot then!

[Paulo2004]

Lisbon
Madrid
London
Rome
Barcelona

[Jonesy55]

London
Istanbul
Paris
Berlin
Manchester

[birminghamculture]

London
Barcelona
Rotterdam
Dublin
Manchester

[MSM]

Madrid
Paris
London
Roma
Moscow

[Bitxofo]

London
Paris
Barcelona
Athens
Rome
Istanbul
Berlin
Vienna
Madrid
Lisboa

[Bitxofo]

London
Paris
Barcelona
Athens
Rome
Istanbul
Berlin
Vienna
Madrid
Lisboa

Take the 1st five, please!
SORRY...
;)
DavoR

[Alfa]

Despit it size Europe counts a lot famous and big cities.

London
Paris
Moscow
Istanbul
Saint Petersburgh

And farther;
Rome
Berlin
Madrid
Amsterdam
Warsaw
Brussels
Copenhagen
Stochholm

and many more.

[Ozcan]

Istanbul
Istanbul
Istanbul
Istanbul
? :D

[indigo]

Paris
London
Amsterdam
Lisbon
Rome

[GoodGuy]

here is my top 5

1. Athens
2. Paris
3. Barcelona
4. London
5. Berlin

[robinio]

...
1) Barcelona
2) Paris
3) Athens
4) London
5) Dublin

[DonQui]

1) Madrid
2) Barcelona
3) London
4) Paris
5) Lisbon

[Imperial]

Frankfurt?????

I don't get it.

Nor do I drab and dreary Warsaw.

Katowice laughs at Warsaw.

Your reflection is stupid or you are stupid ???

[LEAFS FANATIC]

My top five EUROPEAN cities:

1. Rome
2. Berlin
3. Athens
4. Porto
5. Madrid

[LEAFS FANATIC]

Istanbul
Istanbul
Istanbul
Istanbul
? :D

not in europe
not in europe
not in europe
not in europe
?

[DonQui]

Istanbul is in Europe. As a whole, Turkey is not.

[Ozcan]

not in europe
not in europe
not in europe
not in europe
?

I'm joking, it amazes me that you're not able to understand and Istanbul is in Europe and if it wasn't I wouldn't cry...:D

My list, no order:

1. Roma
2. Paris
3. Istanbul
4. Madrid
5. Barcelona

Grow up Leafs! I left out Athens because you ommitted Istanbul as well, yes I can be as childish as you...

[Dziki REX]

If the threads mean that I have to chose 5 cities which were the most interesting and were developing faster than other in year 2004 it definitely would be

- Rotterdam
- Moscow
- Warsaw
- Athens
- Madrid

On the other hand not many interesting things happened in some other major European cities like Rome, Paris, Prague, London, Berlin

[dougfr69]

1)Paris
2)Londres
3)Milan
4)Madrid
5)Berlin

[Manuel]

1-London
2-Frankfurt
3-Rotterdam

4-Paris
5-Varsovie

[blue_warsaw]

Strasbourg
Rennes
Warsaw
Wroclaw
Rome

[System_Halted]

1-Paris
2-Rome
3-Istanbul
4-London
5-Madrid

[mic of Orion]

1. Barcelona
2. Prague
3. Paris
4. Amsterdam
5. Zagreb

[yonny]

Not in order

Lisboa
Milan
Monaco
Barcelona
Porto

and Funchal ( Madeira island Portugal ) http://www.madeiraregiaoeuropeia2004.org/layout/logo_re2004_EN.gif

[Monkey]

How on Earth can people leave Paris and London off their lists? :dunno:

[Bass]

I'm sorry dude, not everyone is that convinced of the superiority of London! Personally I like nice weather, so that is also a point of consideration.
But don't worry, London would surely come at the 6th place! Everything is so damn expensive there! The same goes for Paris, plus that the nightlife in Paris is very poor.
I ranked Berlin higher because the city is really blooming in culture, progress and positivism. You can sense it in the atmosphere, and that I like.

[Pavlvs]

Best 2004?

Rome (it's the best in...eternal :D - Mtv awards 2004 - Simon & Garfunkel free concert)
Lisboa ( Portugal Euro2004 )
Genoa ( Capital of Europe Culture 2004 )
Istanbul (maybe now the boomest city in Europe)
Zurich ( the best world quality of life 2004)

[Keane]

London
Paris
Berlin :eek2:

Frankfurt
Stockholm

[Singidunum]

Athens
Paris
Budapest
Rome
Lisbon

for 2005:
London
Belgrade
Paris
Kyiv
Berlin

[s102]

Warsaw
London
Rome
Paris
Milan

[_alonso_]

^^^:hahaha:

[Koniaczeq]

Athens

for 2005:
London
Belgrade
Paris
Kyiv
Berlin

Alfonso why didnt you laugh from Singidunums list ? IMO it is funier :)

[long foot]

^^^

:nono:

Koniaczeq, Belgrade is developing very fest :D

I am sure it will be one of the best European cities in 2005. ;)

[_alonso_]

both were same funny:D

[Koniaczeq]

^^^

:nono:

Koniaczeq, Belgrade is developing very fest :D

I am sure it will be one of the best European cities in 2005. ;)




:doh: :D Yeah it willlllllllllllllllllllllllll ............................................................... :)

[blimey]

1. London
2. Paris
3. Amsterdam
4. Frankufrt
5. Copenhagen/Stockholm

[Singidunum]

2004:
Athens - olympics
Budapest-by far the most beautiful city among new EU members
Lisbon-EURO 2004
Nothing to explain for Paris and Rome.

2005:
Belgrade for EuroBasket and EuroVolleyball.
Kyiv for revolution and ESC.
No need to explain Paris, London and Berlin.

anyway I haven`t expected anything better from you two. I made my list with 1/2 of all the time the best and 1/2 with the ones that are important for that particular year.

Now explain your list Koniaczeq

[delfin_pl]

Rome
Vienna
Budapest
Barcelona
Krakow

[Koniaczeq]

London - great old buildings, world class city, night life, cosmopolitism

Berlin - amazing city planing, level od modern architecture

Barcelona - coastline, Gaudi, open mind

Warsaw - the most dynamic city in the whole EE, big potential, amazing history, if you want to know how Warsaw will look in the future look at Berlin and Madrid
in 2004 European Economic Summit (by World Economic Forum, do you know what Davos is ? :) ), 2005 Summit of European Council :) Enough ?

Madrid - amazing imperial buildings, 19 century architecture, metro, they know how to spend Eu money

[Singidunum]

^^^
except of Warsaw you haven`t added any cities that were important in 2004. Like Athens or Lisbon. but ok. Anyway if I looked for the most dynamic city in the whole EE, big potential, amazing history I would pick Moscow. It's amazing to see how that city has changed over the last couple of years. But still it misses some big event. If they get 2012 olympics then it would be awesome. My favourite is Paris though.

[long foot]

anyway I haven`t expected anything better from you two. I made my list with 1/2 of all the time the best and 1/2 with the ones that are important for that particular year.


Singidunum, I know you love your city, but to put it between London and Paris on the list of best European cities is ridiculous.

[Mercutio]

Warsaw - the most dynamic city in the whole EE

Just wondering but what exactly makes Warsaw more dynamic than Prague, Budapest, Bratislava, Vilnius, Riga, Kiev or Moscow?

[TeKnO_Lx]

lol ur choice are just biased in wrong facts
Lisbon (euro 2004)
Athens (OG 04)
Rome( mtv european music awards)

give me 2 more cities which held events and were realy important in 2004

[Koniaczeq]

Just wondering but what exactly makes Warsaw more dynamic than Prague, Budapest, Bratislava, Vilnius, Riga, Kiev or Moscow?

One picture is better than 1000 words, right :)?

http://strony.aster.pl/aligapa/20050411_zt1.jpg

[Schroedinger's Cat]

:yes:

[Metropolist]

2004 : no particular order
Lisbon (euro 04)
Athens (Olympics 04)
Istanbul european part (nato, esc04)
Paris
Barcelona

[Luk 8]

One picture is better than 1000 words, right ?

Koniaczeq -you have absolutely right.

[Jakob]

1) Zurich
2) Vienna
3) Nice
4) Valencia
5) Istanbul

Kiev, Sarajevo and Athens??? Are you joking?

[_keen_]

First of all, Warsaw, Moscow ? Are you kidding ? :D :D :D
Second, it is so strange that nobody mentioned COPENHAGEN. It is definitely THE city to admire in nowadays Europe by every standart.

1) Copenhagen
Amsterdam(?)
Barcelona(?)
London(?)
-

[DX-7]

Paris
London
Amsterdam
Split
Köln

[O Alemao]

1. Lisbon :hahaha:
2. Porto :hahaha::hahaha:
3. Aveiro :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:
4. Braga :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:
5. Coimbra well,....:runaway:

[HelloMoto163]

im MY opinion ..cities in which I was

Berlin
Paris
Madrid
Barcelona
Venice

[Petronius]

whatever... like .. duh

[European1978]

1 Barcelona
2 Berlin
3 Paris
4 Rome
5 Milan

[DrasQue]

No order

- Istanbul
- Athens
- Lisbon
- London
- Paris

[Kingsken]

Barcelona
Rome
Amsterdam
Paris
Brussels

[coth]

One picture is better than 1000 words, right :)?

http://strony.aster.pl/aligapa/20050411_zt1.jpg
first of all - no picture. 404.

second - you are wrong. pictures are just illusion. numbers shows everything much better than anything else.

[El_Greco]

1.London
2.Paris
3.Rotterdam
4.Milan
5.Edinburgh

[alesmarv]

acording to the quality of life survey(the most importatn thing), Zurich should be number one, infact Zurich is ranked number one in the world.

[VelesHomais]

You're all too biased :ohno:


Here is a well balanced, objective list:

Chisinau
Brest
Starachowice
Banja Luka
Freiberg

[oskarj]

1. Stockholm
2. Copenhagen
3. Oslo
4. Paris
5. London

My honest opinion.

[bambam]

1. Barcelona
2. Barcelona
3. Barcelona
4. Munich
5. Dubrovnik

[beta29]

1. Paris
2. Berlin
3. Hamburg
4. Madrid, Rome, Athens or Barcelona (can´t decide)
5. Tallinn

[boogo]

1. Barcelona
...
...
...
...
2. London
3. Prague
4. Paris
5. Florence

btw. putting Warsaw, Instanbul or Belgrade on the list is ridiculous.
Warsaw - lot of commie blocks, chaos everywhere, looks bad from the street level
Instanbul - full respect for Haga Sophia and other relics, but Istanbul blue glass scrapers look very cheap (blue glass is cheap rubbish) and skyline looks good only in night. At any rate this city is closer to the top 5 then Warsaw.
Belgrade - quite nice city, but nothing special in compare to top best cities in Europe.

[Giorgio]

Athens
London
Lisbon
Istanbul
Rome

[bambam]

...lots of beautiful skyscrapers and nice skyline!

:bash: We are talking about best 5 citys.. nightlife.. culture.. party.. girls.. boys.. whatever :)) hehe

.. but not about the best skyline!?! :wallbash:

[Mali]

1. Paris
2. Rome
3. London
4. Barcelona
5. Athens
:cheers:

[Per]

For the atmosphere of the (most important) cities it's definately:

1. Amsterdam (city which combines the good things of a village and a metropolis)
2. Paris (the French made their capital a place to impress the world)
3. Stockholm (the city which is best "naturally" situated)
4. Madrid (it's the joy of life feeling more than in Barcelona, that's overrated)
5. Genua (i have a "Genua feeling", more intense than other Italian cities)

[Khanabadosh]

1. Amsterdam
2. Barcelona
3. Paris
4. London
5. Berlin, Madrid, Lisbon

[Bitxofo]

This thread was for the year 2004...
:crazy:

[eomer]

Istanbul in Europe??? its Asia?

No, Istambul is mostly in Europe and got suburbs in Asia.

[Valia]

Only five :????

the most of the cities at Europe are greats :cheer:

[porcelain]

1. Vilnius/ Lithuania
2. Salzburg/ Austria
3. Stockholm/ Sweden
4. Luxembourg/ Luxembourg
5. Praha/ Check Republic


The bigest - London, Paris or Madrid - is not the best!

Istambul and Turkey are not Europe !!!

[DrasQue]

^^That shows how you are ignorant,fool

[warcry]

1:london
2:york
3:cantabury

all incredible citys
london is amazing in every way
york amazing medieval city
cantabury also an amazing medieval city
with magnificant cathedrals


oh and i have been to paris and berlin and moscow before you start to say im ignorant.

[Ljubljana City]

Main part of Istanbul is in Europe.

[sihi]

Krakow
Helsinki
Warsaw
Koln/Cologne


Krakow-Cracovia:
http://p.vtourist.com/524124-Market_Square-Krakow.jpg

[MIMICA]

Istambul and Turkey are not Europe !!!

Istanbul happens to be even more "European" than most cities in Central and Western Europe. All this bullshit about Turkey not being in Europe is a complete joke, and is obvious to do with religious matters.

Just because the majority of the Turkish population is Muslim, doesn't mean the country isn't European. :ohno: Get over yourself... :|

[DonQui]

Istanbul happens to be even more "European" than most cities in Central and Western Europe. All this bullshit about Turkey not being in Europe is a complete joke, and is obvious to do with religious matters.

Just because the majority of the Turkish population is Muslim, doesn't mean the country isn't European. :ohno: Get over yourself... :|
Right, that's why the EU is starting to begin accession talks with countries with large Muslim populations. Not to mention that in the heart of the EU, many Muslims live. ;)

What's with all the self pity?

[Ozcan]

Seriously, whether Turkey is located in Africa or Oceania.. who cares? Well, at least I don't. Let's assume that it's located in Africa for a change.

[messiah]

You can say that Turkey is not europe (this would be your opinion) but saying Istanbul is not europe shows the education level of your country.

[me rrufsh bolet]

Right, that's why the EU is starting to begin accession talks with countries with large Muslim populations. Not to mention that in the heart of the EU, many Muslims live. ;)

What's with all the self pity?

really? So do me a favor, since you say many muslim countries, enlighten me a little cause im not so familiar with ALL these muslim countries joining and begining talks with EU?
BTW, when you're done listing them. List the Christian coutnries as well. (I'm Christian just so you know)

and like messiah said, turkey as a whole may not be europe, but istanbul is. Also, why are all these middle eastern and asian countries competing with europe in soccer tournaments, eurovision etc? If Turkey is geographically "Asian" then Cyprus is too...But like mimica said, it's not just about "geography" but religion as well

[houston_texan]

Not in order
London
Istanbul
Rome
Madrid
Munich

[DrasQue]

You can say that Turkey is not europe (this would be your opinion) but saying Istanbul is not europe shows the education level of your country.

;)

[Peppisan]

1 Rome
2 Paris
3 London
4 Wien
5 Prague

[Giorgio]

How people dont nominate the most Important cities of 2004 (Lisbon and Athens) is beyond me.

[yellow arrow]

Not in order:

- Rome
- Madrid
- Barcellona
- Paris
- Praha

But I advice to visit lots of smaller cities in Emilia-Romagna and Toscana in Italy, expecially the city of Siena that I consider something wonderfull...

[bjerimedor]

']How people dont nominate the most Important cities of 2004 (Lisbon and Athens) is beyond me.

what are you talking about? How are they the most important cities? And people have different opinions, Europe is full of huge developed cities, not everyone likes the same cities as you

[theworld]

Rome ==> Capital of Western Roman Empire
Istanbul ==> Capital of Eastern Roman Empire
Paris
London
Madrid

[_Sha_]

shining stars;
1. Istanbul & Sarajevo & Zagreb
2. Istanbul & Sarajevo & Zagreb
3. Istanbul & Sarajevo & Zagreb
4. Istanbul & Sarajevo & Zagreb
5. Istanbul & Sarajevo & Zagreb

:banana::cheers:

[Marco_]

1. Porto
2. Lissabon
3. Braga
4. Guimaraes
5. Faro

[nurhak]

guys its Istanbul not Istambul

[_Sha_]

^^ :okay:

[Mati-PL]

guys its Istanbul not Istambul
Well, in Polish is Istambul :D

[_Sha_]

Well, in Polish is Istambul :D

Well, Warsaw is Varşova in Turkish then.

[hercegovac_nin0]

1.Athens(Olympic games 2004)
2.Lisbon(Euro 2004)
3.Istanbul(Eurovision song contest 2004, NATO summit)
4.Amsterdam( smoking):)
5.Sarajevo (nice nice nice nice nice :) )

[WMS]

Well, in Polish is Istambul :D

well, in Polish it is STAMBUŁ

[erbse]

wtf is that crappy thread about? I don't get it... "5 best cities in Europe" :lol: And why r you ppl goin on to post here? The topic obviously says "2004" - Either you people aren't able to read or this is just a way to push your posting-counts. I guess it's both.

[_Sha_]

Stambul or Istambul ? :weird:

[earth intruder]

Stambul or Istambul ? :weird:

both names are correct in polish :D Stambuł and Istambuł :D:D:D

[Lino]

Istanbul in Europe??? its Asia?

PS. Saarbrucken its verry nice city in west Germany, mountains around the city, castle ect. Whats new in saarbrucken? hmm dont know.. i hope i'll be there in 2005

Instanbul is on the European side of Turkey...

[_Sha_]

Instanbul is on the European side of Turkey...

Istanbul is located both side; Asia and Europe. But first establishment was on European side. Today the most of commercial zones, historic areas and night life are located here. Asian side includes more residence areas. :)

[MakaWella]

I agree that Warsaw has a lot less attractions than London, Paris or Rome.

But Istanbul? Moscow? Sorry, but those two cities aren't more attractive than Warsaw. You say that F1 circuit is some great phaenomenal tourist attraction? I don't think so...

Of course some of those places in Istanbul or Moscow are very interesting, but Warsaw has also a set of architectural wonders: the medieval Old Town, The Royal Castle, beautiful baroque Wilanow Palace, the classical Lazienki Park with the Palace on the Water, Ujazdowski Castle, many noble palaces, 4th best modern skyline in Europe, the famous Palace of Culture and Science, The Great Theatre, modern bridges, Kampinoski National Park...

Istanbul are much times older than Warsaw
more skyline
more historie
more people
more modern
more INTRESTING!

[ØlandDK]

Is Istanbul more modern than Warsaw? wouldn't have thought that...

[MakaWella]

1. Istanbul
2. Rotterdam
3. Paris
4. London
5. Warsaw

[Maurycy]

Istanbul are much times older than Warsaw
more skyline
more historie
more people
more modern
more INTRESTING!

more modern crappy architecture
more slums
more, but worse skyline
more but less interesting history
more Asia, less Europe

[MakaWella]

Is Istanbul more modern than Warsaw? wouldn't have thought that...

I was 3 times in Warsaw en 6 times in Istanbul..

[uA_TAGA]

more modern crappy architecture
more slums
more, but worse skyline
more but less interesting history
more Asia, less Europe

u r more idiot :lol:

-----

Oelandkk : Is Istanbul more modern than Warsaw? wouldn't have thought that...
MakaWella : I was 3 times in Warsaw en 6 times in Istanbul..

no comment :)

[uA_TAGA]

ISTANBUL

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7587/asdasasdek8.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7598/ffasfafsjg1.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2827/istanbul5vf4.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2125/istanbul8qv3.jpg

[Truva]

ISTANBUL :cheers:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1795/kanyonshoppingmallinlevvu2.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8259/2378099851163393255ck8zs3.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/alanson/osmansahinolanlar.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/838/reinagv8.jpg

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1092/istanbul137js2zu6.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/stormicy5/sporcular1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Metrocity_Levent_Istanbul.jpg/682px-Metrocity_Levent_Istanbul.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1337/942439989_bd3a22e429_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1221/942440583_3c86886fe9_b.jpg

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2186/farukmaslak2wx7.jpg

[WMS]

I've seen those pics of Istanbul in 15 other threads, there's too much of them on forum.. Please, have mercy

[Istanbullu]

I've seen the usual warsaw skyline pics zillion times too...

anyway this is a pic that I've taken 1 year ago..

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Istanbullu/Kerem1979_139_3934bst2wow.jpg

[uA_TAGA]

I've seen the usual warsaw skyline pics zillion times too...



i agree i've seen zilliion times too ;) :okay:

[arxeos]

1)Budapest
2)Paris
3)Barcelona
4)Stockholm
5)Thessaloniki

[MPOWER]

1) Berlin
2) Amsterdam
3) Paris
4) Munich
5) Milan

[Herr Lind]

Saint Petersburg (i LOVE this city! The most beautiful city in the world!)
Riga (Riga is really beautiful too.. Not so much as St. Petersburg, but nonetheless =)
Moscow (place where i live... It's wonderful city. I don't want to live anywhere else)
London (very contrasty and colored city. Looks like Moscow a little bit)
Munich (just interesting and beautiful city)

[Second City]

1. Warsaw
2. London
3. Paris
4. Rome
5. Madrid

[PedroGabriel]

1) Póvoa de Varzim
2) Amsterdam
3) Barcelona
4) Venice
5) sorry, can't name any other!

[napolit]

1) Amadora
2) Lisboa
3) Odivelas
4) Riga
5) Stockholm

I didn't understand the topic of this thread, what the best cities in?