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The Urban Politician
January 8th, 2005, 02:30 AM
Height: 734 ft
Floor count: 65
Location: East Roosevelt and South Prairie
Construction end: 2008
Architect: Pappageorge/Haymes, Ltd.
Developer: Schatz Development LLC

Website (http://www.onemuseumpark.com/)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5629/onemuseumparkuu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the thread for One Museum Park, a highrise planned on the eastern edge of Roosevelt Rd. It will be the first of 4 highrises slated to frame the southern end of Grant Park.

BVictor1
January 8th, 2005, 03:08 AM
^You beat me to it.

Once again the sales center for One Museum Park will be opening Monday January 10, 2004. I be going, and whatever information I obtain I will post.

The Urban Politician
January 8th, 2005, 05:13 AM
^You beat me to it.

Once again the sales center for One Museum Park will be opening Monday January 10, 2004. I be going, and whatever information I obtain I will post.

I be waiting :)

Jules
January 8th, 2005, 05:29 AM
Great looking building.

BVictor1
January 8th, 2005, 03:02 PM
Hey Urban, maybe you should edit the title of this thread so that it reflects the buildings stats.

One Museum Park (65 stories/720')

geoff_diamond
January 8th, 2005, 11:03 PM
Hrmm... looks gerthy to me. I'll be curious to see some other angles.

Simpatico78
January 9th, 2005, 01:35 PM
67-story condo tower planned on LSD at Roosevelt

By John Handley
Tribune staff reporter
Published January 9, 2005

The tallest new residential building on Chicago's lakefront is close to receiving city approval.

The city's Department of Planning and Development is reviewing the final designs for a 67-story condominium to be built at the southwest corner of Lake Shore Drive and Roosevelt Road.

The tower has taken two years to design, in part because of the city's demands for a landmark-quality building on the prime site.

"We encouraged the developer to explore a unique design, because it will be a focal point on Lake Shore Drive, a showpiece for the Near South," said Peter Scales, a spokesman for the Department of Planning and Development.

Because of its height and location, the tower will become a prominent fixture on the city's skyline. The building will stand 670 feet tall. In comparison, Lake Point Tower, built in 1968 at the foot of Navy Pier, is 645 feet.

"We want world-class architecture there. It is at a critical part of Chicago's front yard," said Samuel Assefa, the department's deputy commissioner for design review. "We haven't given the green light to the project yet, but that should happen in a month or so."

Called One Museum Park, the new condo will have 265 units. The developer is Enterprise Cos. and the architect is Pappageorge Haymes Ltd., both Chicago firms.

Preconstruction pricing starts at $500,000 for two bedrooms plus den and $800,000 to $1.5 million for three bedrooms. Square footage of the units ranges from 1,425 to 2,917.

One Museum Park is the first of four residential towers that will be built on Roosevelt between the drive and Michigan Avenue. It will be the highest structure in Central Station, the 80-acre, mixed-use development that could have as many as 15,000 residents.

The master developer is Central Station Development Corp., a partnership of Chicago-based Fogelson Properties Inc. and Forest City Enterprises of Cleveland.

The city's review of One Museum Park will include the developer's application for administrative relief to construct a building so tall. The city approved a planned development for the site in 1989 that allows 400-foot-high buildings.

"At first, we were disappointed at the elevations submitted for approval. Our primary concern is that it will add value to the city," Assefa said.

He noted that Daniel Burnham's 1909 Plan of Chicago envisioned Roosevelt Road as a gateway to the west.

"There is no requirement, but we suggest that the developer meet with neighborhood groups to show them the design," Assefa said.

Ronald Shipka Sr., principal of Enterprise, said construction will start this summer, with first occupancies 26 to 28 months later.

"One Museum Park is by far the most prominent vertical project we've ever done," Shipka said.

He added, though, that another current Enterprise project, University Commons, has more units. The conversion of the former South Water Market has 850 units.

Planned for the tower are concierge service, indoor and outdoor pools and an exercise facility. Parking, at a cost of $40,000 to $55,000 per space, will be on the first four floors.

Jeff Renterghem, project architect for Pappageorge Haymes, said it has taken two years to design the building. "Several schemes were rejected by the city Planning Department and we had to go back and retool."

He said that the intent from the beginning was to design a modern building, but the first versions had more of a traditional Chicago look with a Mies van der Rohe influence.

"The city wanted a more future-looking, truly elegant building. There were a lot of expectations, both from the city and the developer. This was to be the premier building in Central Station, a landmark that can seen from anywhere," he said.

He added that a primary goal was to create maximum views from the tower and also to preserve view corridors, taking into account existing and future buildings.

Unobstructed views from the condos will include the Museum Campus, Grant Park, Monroe Harbor, Navy Pier and the Loop's skyline.

"It's unique on the skyline," said Renterghem. "There's nothing like it in Chicago."

Above the structure's 62 residential floors will be "a very dynamic top, a modern, sculptural statement clad in stainless steel," he said. The equivalent of five more stories, it will house the building's mechanicals.

"We went as tall as economically feasible. Going higher would just be for ego," he said.

The top five floors will be reserved for penthouses.

Peter Skosey, the Metropolitan Planning Council's vice chairman of external relations, said new residential towers along Roosevelt Road make sense because they will frame the south end of Grant Park.

"The south wall of new buildings will form a bookend, like Randolph Street is on the north end of the park," Skosey said.

The sales center for the building is at 13th Street and Indiana Avenue, a short distance from the future construction site.

BVictor1
January 9th, 2005, 02:54 PM
LOOKS LIKE WE NEED A CHANGE IN HEIGHT

ONE MUSEUM PARK 67 STORIES/670' FT

Yup,

I was just about to post that same article.

Today seems to be a great day when it comes to building skyscrapers here in Chicago.

Looks like they added 2 more floors and about 50'

FUCKIN' EXCELLENT

ChgoLvr83
January 9th, 2005, 04:38 PM
LOOKS LIKE WE NEED A CHANGE IN HEIGHT

ONE MUSEUM PARK 67 STORIES/670' FT

Yup,

I was just about to post that same article.

Today seems to be a great day when it comes to building skyscrapers here in Chicago.

Looks like they added 2 more floors and about 50'

FUCKIN' EXCELLENT

Huh? Ok, now I'm confused a bit. I thought the previous height was 65 stories at 720' but you stated that they added 2 extra floors and 50 extra feet coming to a grand total of 670'. Is the height 670 or 770? That article posted by SullivanJoe also says 670' but I always see height posted at 720'. Im so confused and I hate being confused. This is such a great building in that development and I just want to make sure my facts are straight when I brag to my friends and family back east about Chicago. :) Help!

BVictor1
January 9th, 2005, 07:04 PM
I don't know why I keep saying that 50' was added. I did that in the other thread as well. That's because I had it in my mind that when there was that presentation of the project about a month ago, it was stated that the building would be 720'. So dude, I got a bit confused myself. I guess that well just have to wait until the guys at Emporis see the blueprints.

Typing in 770' was my mistake.

BrilliantRealty.com
January 10th, 2005, 09:58 PM
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BrilliantRealty.com
January 10th, 2005, 10:04 PM
Did anyone else make it to the sales center this morning for the grand opening today?? It was a ZOO!!! There was definitely alot of interest.......people were forcing the sales agents to take their checks. A good amount of the northern tiers sold out at $450/sq ft.

BVictor1
January 10th, 2005, 10:21 PM
Okay, well I've just come from the sales center. It was fucking busy. A total madhouse, and i'm sorry to day a bit unorgainzed. I got different answers from everyone. I was told that the building would be 61-stories, the handout packet that I got said the building would be 61-stories, and when I called Pappageorge/Haymes Ltd., who are the architects, they told me 61-stories. When I counted the floors on the model I came up with between 66-70 stories including the mechanical penthouse. I tried to count several times, and that's difficult to do on such a large model, because you can't help but blink, and you tend to loose your place.

Sorry that I couldn't do better guys. I will go back in several weeks when things have cooled down. As I said it was crazy there. When I asked how many units there would be I was given ansewrs in the range from 187-units to 240-units so....

I was told that they taken reservations for more than 50% of the building. Now I don't know how true that is, as I said I will revisit in a couple of weeks.

Now for some renderings and model pictures :)

This is a rendering that comes with the building description packet.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E232374786%3A3%3A9ot1lsi

This rendering is from the Chicago Tribune 01/09/05
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2323%3D838%3D84%3A%3D3232838759%3B%3A8nu0mrj

Looking northwest towards the tower.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D3232%3E747%3E759%3E232374784%3A%3A9%3Bot1lsi

Looking east.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E2323%3D838%3D84%3A%3D3232838759%3B94nu0mrj

This is the back southwest corner of the building.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2323%3D838%3D84%3A%3D3232838759%3B96nu0mrj

Looking south at the north face of the building. That's Roosevelt Road that you see running along the base.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2323%3D838%3D84%3A%3D3232838759%3B98nu0mrj

Looking up at the eastern facade.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2323%3D838%3D84%3A%3D3232838759%3B9%3Anu0mrj

The crown.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D3232%3E747%3E759%3E232374784%3A%3A%3A%3Bot1lsi

Another shot of the western facade looking east toward the building.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2323%3D838%3D84%3A%3D3232838759%3B%3A4nu0mrj

A small turnaround and courtyard in the back southwestern corner of the building.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237478695%3B6ot1lsi

A smaller version of the One Museum Park model placed within the larger model. Looking southwest.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237478686%3A8ot1lsi

Another shot of the southern facade looking north.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2323%3D838%3D84%3A%3D3232838759%3B%3A6nu0mrj

Looking down upon the base.
http://images.snapfish.com/34285%3B9523232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237478692%3B8ot1lsi

As I said before I will go back soon for more information. Sorry I couldn't get it this time. Hope you enjoy the pics.

The Urban Politician
January 10th, 2005, 11:42 PM
^FUCKIN A!

Awesome pics, great reconnaisance work, BV!

I absolutely love the building. It's a behemoth, in a sense, it's a counter-attack to the sleek Trump Tower and Waterview Towers. Bulk, bulk, bulk, Chicago-style. I am dying to see this thing get constructed

oshkeoto
January 11th, 2005, 01:44 AM
^ I love it. Anyone able to make any renderings with it in the skyline? That view of it from the Museum Campus is just awesome.

geoff_diamond
January 11th, 2005, 02:02 AM
Well... I've still got my reservations on this one. The top is a work of art... but, I'm hoping the rest is just losing something in translation. It still seems too (to steal the perfect word from TUP) "bulky" to me. At the same time, I love the idea of its scale... it is going to simply dominate the southern skyline.

BVictor1
January 11th, 2005, 03:44 AM
^I don't mind at all. We wouldn't be real architecture geeks if we didn't use these images for our own "pleasure" or should I say our own personal documentation.


Okay, well I counted the floors on the rendering that I got from the sales center today, and I did count 61 floors NOT including the stainless steel mechanical penthouse on the top of the structure. On the copies of the floorplan layout of the units, the highest unit is on Floor 61. Now, according to the residential features sheets I got today the units will have 9' Ft ceiling heights, and lets just assume that means all the residential floors.

Let do a bit of unscientific math.
Residential floors: 61 x 9' = 549'

Estimated guess of floor plate thickness: 61 x 1.25' = 76.25'

Mechanical Penthouse: 5 x 9' = 45'

TOTAL = 670.25'


In the renderings the mechanical penthouse appears to be about 5 stories, and I don't think that there will really be floos in there seeing as it will house chillers, air conditioning equipment and all other type of stuff that's large, so in that calculation I left out the floorplate thickness.

That concludes this lesson for the evening ladies and gentlemen!!!:)

What you all think?

chicagogeorge
January 11th, 2005, 03:46 AM
^
Simply fantastic!

northsidesoxfan
January 11th, 2005, 04:42 AM
^Nice work!

The models indicate that Grant Park will be extended south and the IC tracks covered all the way to 14th Street or so.

Do the building's promotional materials promise the park's exention?

geoff_diamond
January 11th, 2005, 06:23 AM
how could the park be extended to 14th if Central Station is in the way? Roosevelt = 12th.

2PRUROCKS!
January 12th, 2005, 12:58 AM
^The park will be east of central station, covering the tracks south of Roosevelt.

FarNWburb
January 12th, 2005, 05:26 AM
Posted on the Central Station website, however updated it might or might not be.....

Grant Park Extension over Metra tracks
Central Station has donated 4 acres of property over the Metra railroad tracks between Roosevelt Road and 14th Street to the City of Chicago to extend Grant Park. The purpose of this park is to enhance the entrance to the Museum Campus and Soldier Field, hide the railroad tracks and provide recreational amenities to the neighborhood.

I am curious myself how they are going to tie this into the existing Grant Park, and the Museum Campus. Will they be building a new pedestrian bridge over LSD, Roosevelt? IMO, it doesnt seem like it would be such a great "enhancement to the entrance" if one had to walk from 14th north 2 blocks, cross Roosevelt, follow the big sweeping path under LSD, and then come back south 2 blocks to get to the McFetridge area entrances, and walking paths. But at any rate, it sure will be an awesome front yard for One Museum Park when it gets finished....

geoff_diamond
January 12th, 2005, 04:20 PM
Is any of this related to the closure of the entrance to the campus from Columbus?

Zuelas
January 14th, 2005, 12:01 AM
damn, I liked it before I even saw the model. one of my favorites planned for chicago

BVictor1
January 14th, 2005, 03:22 AM
This article is from the Skyline paper. And for those of you who don't know what Skyline is, it's a weekly community newspaper. I am typing this article word for word, including the errors.


January 13, 2005
"South Wall" condo project moves ahead in Grant Park
http://images.snapfish.com/3428889523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E232374%3B7778%3A4ot1lsi

By: Adam Pincus
Contributor


Saying it will nicely frame the south end of Grant Park, comminity groups are pleased with plans for One Museum Park, the condo tower thar will anchor the long-awaited "South Wall" project in the park.

In fact, the only complaint neighborhood groups have about the high-rise tower planned for Columbus and Roosevelt is that it is not quite tall enough.

Developer Central Station Development Corp. submitted plans for 65-story anchor building to the city, but will likely start with 61-feet and possibly build up to 65-feet. One Museum Place is one of the four buildings that will form the "wall."

"The city is approving 65 stories," said Tim Desmond, president of Central Station Development Corporation, who said they could add stories if there is interest.

The city's Dept. of Planning and Development was expected to approve the plan Wednesday, January 12. Construction on One Museum Park, which went on the market January 10, is planned for this fall.

Jeffrey Key, president of the Greater South Loop Association, said the group had wanted at least a 70-story tower in order to ballance the 1,136-foot Aon Center and other buildings on the north side of the park.

"But we are happy that they did a large, architecturally-significant building there," said Key.

Desmond said the costs for a 75-story building "were outrageous. The costs just "skyrocketed" as it got taller, and "the pricing in Chicago wouldn't support that kind of height."

Developers and architects unveiled renderings and outlines for the four buildings that make up the project to about 100 people at a December 9 community meeting hosted by the Grant Park Advisory Council and the grant Park Conservency.

Co-developer Fogelson, in a phone conversation December 24, explained that the city wanted architecture that would form a gateway to the museum campus and be "bookends to the (Grant) park."

He said the city and community groups, cognizant of the lasting significance of these buildings, urged developers and the Chicago-based architect, Pappageorge/Haymes to build modern and slender structures. The same firm recently designed the towers to be built at 600 N. Lake Shore Dr.

The city, he said, "wanted modern architecture. They wanted balance on the Park, to frame the Park. They did not want lots of mass, but taller and more graceful [buildings]."

Local community groups, such as South Loop Neighbors, support the project and the building, though not without some reservations.

The president of South Loop Neighbors, Leslie Gryce Sturino, said in a phone interview that One Museum Park, "is a very sharp design. It will add some real sparkle to the south end of [the Loop] skyline."

She added however, "Some of our members thought it was counterintutive to build west to east, getting increasingly taller," thereby blocking some views of the lake. One Museum Park will be the tallest building in Central Station.

The buildings are planned for the northern edge of the 80 acres of land owned by Central Station Development Co., a partnership of Chicago-based Fogelson Cos. and Cleveland's Forest City Enterprises, Inc. These companies are partnered with Chicago-based Enterprise Development Co. for the development of the first two buildings, which will include One Museum Plaza.

The corner tower will house "about 280" market-rate condominium units, reguardless of the height, which will be priced between $400,000 and $4.1 million, according to developers.

The engaging architecture is a union of two separate design elements: a mast-like central tower with vertical accents, which is framed on each side by asymmetrical wings of staggered terraces, full of horizontal accents.

The economic impact on the south Loop promises to be tremendus, which is what developers and community leaders are counting on.

Central Station, which currently accounts for about a quarter of all condominium sales in the Loop, according to Desmond, will grow by 1,000 units with the completion of the four buildings.

These buildings, Desmond said, "Set the stage for the development of the park", as development at the north end of Grant Park spurred the development of Millennium Park.

Each building should generate approximately $2 to $3 million in property taxes for the Near South Tax Increment Financing District (TIF), which will be used for infrastructure and other projects.

Bob O'Neill, president of the Grant Park Advisory Council said, "We are looking into TIF money for Grant Park south," which he characterized as still unfinished near Roosevelt Road.

The scene at the VIP sales release, at the Museum Park sales offices at the corner of 13th St. and Indiana Ave. was a "madhouse" Monday, according to one attendee.

He said he waited an hour in an unsuccessful attempt to meet with a sales agent, before giving up and leaving. "I overhead people talking about buying several units," he said, adding that he thought a lot of the building boom in the South Loop is investor driven.

The building should be ready for occupancy in 2007.

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As you can see, there is still a chance for an increase in height. In my opinion, the developers better take every chance possible to increase the height of this building; it's not every day when you get several neighborhood groups who want a taller building. And I think that Mr. Desmond was incorrect when he said the prices wouldn't support a taller building seeing as there are 2 soon to be built residential buildings in Chicago surpassing 1,000'.

oshkeoto
January 14th, 2005, 03:49 AM
^ DAMMIT! Why is this city incapable of producing a substantial body of good, modern buildings?

That thing next to One Museum Park is ugly and boring and should be shot.

BVictor1
January 14th, 2005, 04:19 AM
^ DAMMIT! Why is this city incapable of producing a substantial body of good, modern buildings?

That thing next to One Museum Park is ugly and boring and should be shot.


^Lets see:

1. Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago

2. Waterview Tower

3. 65 East Huron (proposal)

4. One Museum Park

5, 340 On the Park......

Need I go on?

The building next to One Museum Park is just a preliminary design, and to be honest, it's not the best image anyhow. The design might be than it appears.

And to answer your original question, les you've forgotten Chicago invented modern skyscrapers! :|

The Urban Politician
January 14th, 2005, 04:22 AM
^ DAMMIT! Why is this city incapable of producing a substantial body of good, modern buildings?

That thing next to One Museum Park is ugly and boring and should be shot.

^I'm sure it's a very preliminary design..

FarNWburb
January 14th, 2005, 06:53 AM
""Desmond said the costs for a 75-story building "were outrageous. The costs just "skyrocketed" as it got taller, and "the pricing in Chicago wouldn't support that kind of height.""

NEWSFLASH!!!!
Waterview Tower 85-story 1,030'
Trump Tower Chi 90-story 1,125'
I guess we should prepare ourselves for the cencellation of these giants. The pricing in Chicago wont support that kind of height. Who is this guy? A prime piece of land like that, in that location, with those views.... can surely support the "skyrocketed" costs of another 5-7 storys.

oshkeoto
January 14th, 2005, 07:10 AM
"The building next to One Museum Park is just a preliminary design, and to be honest, it's not the best image anyhow. The design might be than it appears."

Okay, this is true. I was hasty.

But my point still stands, I think. I don't know. I've just been looking at the NY thread, and the average quality of their new stuff seems to blow us out of the water.

Or maybe I exaggerate.

"1. Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago

2. Waterview Tower

3. 65 East Huron (proposal)

4. One Museum Park

5, 340 On the Park......

Need I go on?"

Well, actually, yeah. We've built 30-some 300-foot buildings over the past five years, we have another thirty or forty in the works, and so half a dozen good buildings is not going to cut it. I'm talking about the overall quality, what people see when they're not looking at our landmarks.

I mean, I'm not exactly breaking new ground when I say that a lot of Chicago's building boom has been schlock, but I'm getting frustrated: why is that?

bobablob
January 14th, 2005, 04:38 PM
If you're inclined to compare New York's construction efforts with Chicago's construction efforts, do so in a new thread. DO NOT HIJACK THIS THREAD. Leave this thread for those of us interested in discussing this very exciting new development.

simulcra
January 14th, 2005, 11:32 PM
""Desmond said the costs for a 75-story building "were outrageous. The costs just "skyrocketed" as it got taller, and "the pricing in Chicago wouldn't support that kind of height.""

NEWSFLASH!!!!
Waterview Tower 85-story 1,030'
Trump Tower Chi 90-story 1,125'
I guess we should prepare ourselves for the cencellation of these giants. The pricing in Chicago wont support that kind of height. Who is this guy? A prime piece of land like that, in that location, with those views.... can surely support the "skyrocketed" costs of another 5-7 storys.

I think alot of us are being awfully presumptious, aren't we? Trump Tower and Waterview are both in far different locations. South of Grant Park is worlds apart in terms of location from the riverfront in the Near North. Condominium prices are lower in this tower (~500grand for a 2 bedroom + den?? that was the price for a 1 bedroom in trump, iirc, if even that) and it doesn't have the hotel option to help create a stream of income (that would help justify the increased costs). While we may be architectural/city fanatics and think this development is a gift from god, the average person who would invest so much money in a downtown location would much rather pay more for something near the area of Trump Tower/Waterview than something so far away (relatively) from such prime downtown area. Being in such a nice building is just a fringe benefit. Someone mentioned $450/sq ft? Perhaps for this area, that's nice, but remember Trump was trying to push $1000/sq ft.

BVictor1
January 16th, 2005, 03:10 AM
Today myself, Chicago Shawn, and Dan K. from Emporis re-visited the sales center for One Museum Park. On the downside we were unable to obtain the exact height of the tower at this present time. On the upside the building is 80% sold. Yes, 80%...

If we find out anything else we'll let you know.

The Urban Politician
January 16th, 2005, 03:12 AM
Today myself, Chicago Shawn, and Dan K. from Emporis re-visited the sales center for One Museum Park. On the downside we were unable to obtain the exact height of the tower at this present time. On the upside the building is 80% sold. Yes, 80%...

If we find out anything else we'll let you know.

^You're fuckin kidding me. 80%? Holy Shit!

Why don't they just start construction NOW?

mypetrobot
January 16th, 2005, 03:13 AM
when is it supposed to start construction?

BVictor1
January 16th, 2005, 03:14 AM
when is it supposed to start construction?

Sometime this fall.

mypetrobot
January 16th, 2005, 03:24 AM
what about the proposed building beside it do you think they are going to push that forward or faster then planned based on the sales on one museum?

BVictor1
January 16th, 2005, 03:51 AM
what about the proposed building beside it do you think they are going to push that forward or faster then planned based on the sales on one museum?

Well, we were told that they were already several months ahead of schedule whith things already. I believe that another building or two will be announced within the next couple of months or so.

mypetrobot
January 16th, 2005, 03:55 AM
did they say what the heights were going to be on next building or two? man finally closing up the south side of grant park. this going to be awesome.

BVictor1
January 16th, 2005, 04:52 AM
did they say what the heights were going to be on next building or two? man finally closing up the south side of grant park. this going to be awesome.


don't have heights for anything yet. I did hear a sales agent mention that the building directly west of One Museum Park would be in the 40 something story range, but that's all I know. Once things start to cool down a bit more information will probably come out, but as of now, nothing.

BVictor1
January 17th, 2005, 05:11 PM
I sent an email last Friday, to Timothy Desmond, president of Central Station Development Corp., reguarding One Museum Park. I certainly didn't expect to gat a response from him. Below is that coorespondance.

THE INITIAL EMAIL

Dear Mr. Desmond,

My name is Butler Adams, and I am an architecture student here in
Chicago. I have been following the One Museum Park project since the first advertisment was placed in the Tribune several months ago. I was imediately drawn to this project because of its height and location. It will certainly be a new focal point in the Chicago skyline, no one ever thought that something so tall would ever be constructed south of Roosevelt Rd. I do have a few questions for you though.

I've just finished reading the Skyline newspaper that has an article
this week on the "South Wall" of Grant Park. There are several things in the paper that I found interesting including a quote by you ( Desmond said the costs for a 75-story building "were outrageous. The costs just "skyrocketed" as it got taller, and "the pricing in Chicago wouldn't support that kind of height."). I understand that as the building gets taller the prices rise, but don't you feel with this recent condo boom your building could support extra floors? i mean there are 2 residential buildings in Chicago planned for the 1,000' mark (Trump Tower Chicago & Waterview Tower). I visited the sales center this past Monday, and it was crazy there, people everywhere, interested in One Museum Park. Also, it's not often when you have community groups in support of a tall building. There were even reports in the paper that they'd like to see it taller. So would I.

I do like the design for One Museum Park, it's bold and tall. I
certainly hope that you and your partners decide to make it taller.

I hope that you have the time to answer a few questions.

Can you tell ne the exact height of One Museum Park? I've heard reports of 670' as well as 720'. Personally I like the 720' idea, and wouldn't mind if that was increased.

When is ground breaking scheduled?

I hope to hear back from you.

Butler V. Adams
Architecture Student

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THE RESPONSE

Mr. Butler-

Thanks for your email regarding our OMP development. Our sales effort commenced last Monday and we had a phenominal day.

A bit of history may help you understand our thinking process. We originally proposed a 75 story building for this site. However, a building of such height yielded more units than we wanted to bring to the market, and forced us to go further below grade to provide the additional parking required. In addition, we found that the demands on the vertical transportation, mechanical and curtain wall systems were more than the price point of the product we were offering could support. The vertical transportation alone impact was huge, and it required dwell times that were not in keeping with the quality of what we offer.

In response to your questions, may I offer the following;

1) The approved height of the development is 720', which would permit a 65 story building. At present we are only anticipate a 62 story building.
2) We expect a fall 2005 groundbreaking.
3) Fortunatly, your email leads me to believe you're knowledgable about design, construction costs, timing, risk, financing, marketing and the host of other matters involved in bringing such a development to reality. That makes my response easy to frame.

The market research you've done on the other two buildings you noted most likely has revealed to you their profit margins and time challenges. You also understand the difference in the market those two are targeting and the one we are. As you know, construction prices skyrocketed over the last 18 months, especially steel and concrete. It is outrageous, and the market as a whole has long since passed the equilibrium point where such increased costs can simply be passed along to the consumer. As an example, I'm sure you're familiar with the rare use of pile foundations here in Chicago, but for a while steel was so much less expensive than concrete that it made sense to do so!! I'll bet you share my surprise at such an event, given the history of concret pricing in the mid-west. Now the price of both products fluctuates daily, and we routinely design dual systems and pull the trigget as late as we can. I trust you've kept up to date with the voracious demands of the asian market and what that has done to the spot futures market for construction commodities, so you understand the pressure that the combination of all of these factors does to the risk evaluation of any development.

Our decision to do a 62 story building versus a taller building was made in light of all of those factors. We're fully congizant of the two taller residential condo's projects you mentioned, but perhaps the question to ask is why there are only two of them?? If you look at the number of residential developments over 60 stories done in Chicago since 1990, you'd find very few. Part of that answer must also includes the expertise of any developer, and that's an important point to include in your evaluation process. It's the combination of market duration, costs, delivery schedule and experience that makes a building over 65 stories more challenging than normal. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying it can't be done, but I am saying it wasn't prudent for our business plan. Others have different hurdles to jump, and do so differently. Neither is right or wrong, it's just comes down to risk evaluation. That's what makes real estate so fun!!

We are very pleased with the community support that our development has gained, and are pleased with the quality of the architecture as well. Such a development is emblematic of the quality of developement we seek to do, and is among the reasons for the success to date of Central Station.

I hope this brief note has given you a glimpse of our thought process. Thanks for your interest and if you haven't done so, you should visit our sales office at 13th and Indiana. We have a marvelous model of the building and it is stunning. Best of luck to you in your studies, and don't hesistate to call should you have further questions.

B. Timothy Desmond, AIA
President, Central Station Development Corp.
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I hope that information above was helpful. I still have my fingers crossed that the building will at least rise to it's 65-story approved height, but whatever happens, we still have a tall proposal south of Roosevelt Road.

24gotham
January 17th, 2005, 06:50 PM
^ Awesome response, Thanks for sharing it with us. As a layman, I always appreciate learning how the process works.

The Urban Politician
January 17th, 2005, 07:01 PM
^Nice info grab. I think this is the longest reply you've ever gotten. I am growing to appreciate the Central Station developers more and more

geoff_diamond
January 21st, 2005, 04:56 PM
The fact that this guy would bother to write such an insightful and thoughtful response just blows me away. I guess there are still decent people hanging around here and there :)

Great work as always bvic!

BVictor1
February 18th, 2005, 09:36 AM
I was at the sales center on thursday (02/18/05), and I was told that construction would probably be starting sometime in September. At that time they will also be introducing 2 new buildings.

Presently One Museum Park is about 80% sold and remains 61 stories. I don't believe that there are any plans to increase the height.

BVictor1
March 12th, 2005, 09:25 AM
I sent an email to the developers of One Museum Park at the beginning of the month about the height of the tower, and this was the response that I received today...

We have settled in on a 62 story building. We ran into a limitation on the elevator, parking and mechanical systems to go any higher.

You are welcome to contact my assistant Jane and set up an appointment to come visit us any your convenience. We'd love to help you where we can.

td


You best believe that I will be making that appointment to go there. Hopefully within the next couple of months.

BVictor1
March 13th, 2005, 03:01 AM
Okay, I want to the One Museum Park sales center today to see if I could get some atraight answers, and I did. That straight answer didn't include an exact height, but I got the reason why there isn't an exact height yet.

-First of all, they had originall planned an 80-story building.

-As I mentioned yesterday, they have settled on a 62-story tower

-The resaon why there isn't an exact height yet is because they are still working out the design for the top of the building. The metal clad mechanical penthouse. I was told that they will be having several more meetings with the city as well as the architects. I was told that the city has been very supportive in the design process.

-The tower will probably end up in the 690' range. But as I said, nothing has been finalized yet. Things probably won't be set in stone for another couple of months. I didn't see the blue-prints or anything, the manager of the sales center told me this.

-I was also told that Mayor Dayley has been helping them with the permit approval process. Seeing as he also presently lives in Central Station. I was told that they've been put on the "Fast Track", when it comes to the permit approval process. So instead of having to wait possibly a year to year and a half, they more than likely will only have to wait 6 months.

-All of the towers that will be built along Roosevelt will have their own shape and character. I was told that the developers were told that they didn't want to have the mistakes on the north wall of Grant Park repeated on the south wall. Also they didn't want the mistakes of River North repeated. All of the towers along Roosevelt will be glassy.

-Another building will be introduced sometime this fall.

-Groundbreaking for One Museum Park hopefully will be sometime in September 2005.

The Urban Politician
March 13th, 2005, 05:35 PM
I was told that the developers were told that they didn't want to have the mistakes on the north wall of Grant Park repeated on the south wall.

^Thanks for the info, BV.

But I am curious about this statement. What exact mistakes were they referring to?

ChicagoLover
March 13th, 2005, 05:45 PM
One Outer Drive? This is all music to my ears BVictor... One Museum Park looks just amazing, and all thanks to the Planning Dept.

simulcra
March 13th, 2005, 06:30 PM
I was told that the developers were told that they didn't want to have the mistakes on the north wall of Grant Park repeated on the south wall. Also they didn't want the mistakes of River North repeated. All of the towers along Roosevelt will be glassy.

Wow. Awesome.

BVictor1
March 14th, 2005, 02:46 PM
^Thanks for the info, BV.

But I am curious about this statement. What exact mistakes were they referring to?


I believe he was refering to the hodge-podge of structures. Personally, I somewhat agree. On the north wall some of the buildings set back from Randolph while others are flush. Some buildings look nice (340 OtP west to the Prudential Complex) while others are blah---(Outer Drive East, the Buckingham Plaza and The Doral).

geoff_diamond
March 16th, 2005, 03:01 AM
What does the Doral have to do with any of this? I wouldn't really consider it part of the northern "bookend" to Grant Park because so little of its facade even faces south.

BVictor1
March 16th, 2005, 07:25 AM
What does the Doral have to do with any of this? I wouldn't really consider it part of the northern "bookend" to Grant Park because so little of its facade even faces south.


That may be, but a sliver of it does. None of Prudential Plaza 2 is on Randolph, but it's in the mix.

geoff_diamond
March 17th, 2005, 03:09 PM
But, 2 Pru might as well be on Randolph... it has far more of an effect from the park than does the Doral (which does a good job, thankfully, of blending its ugly face in with the surroundings).

BVictor1
March 19th, 2005, 01:05 AM
This article is from this weeks edition of Skyline News March 16-17 2005.

Today's New Homes/Pioneer Press

One Museum Park sets record as fastest selling residential project in Chicago

After its January 23 grand opening, One Museum Park sold more than 80 percent of its units, making it the fastest selling residential development in Chicago. Developed by the Enterprise Companies, One Museum Park will be located at the edge of Grant Park, adjacent to Lake Michigan and Museum Campus.

IMPACT ON THE SKYLINE
Soaring 61 stories above Grant Park and Lake Michigan, One Museum Park will offer 277 luxurious condominium residences. Construction is slated to begin this fall with first occupancies expected by late 2007.

"Due to the impact One Museum will have on the Chicago skyline, it was imparative for us to create a truly elegant, landmark-quality building," said Ron Shipka, Jr., a principal of the Enterprise Companies.

"Another primary goal was to provide every resident with not only spectacular views of the city, but also the guarantee that they'll be unobstructed forever."

Priced from the $400s, one-bedroom plus den residences offer up to 1,002 square feet. Two-bedroom-plus-den units include two baths and range in size from 1,425 and 1,700 square feet. Pricing for these homes starts in the $600s.

Three-bedroom, three-bath units begin in the $800s and offer between 1,821 and 2,917 square feet of living space. Highlighting floors 57 through 61, five penthouses offer over 7,000 square feet of living space.

Priced from $4.5 million, the posibilities to customize these full-floor residences are endless. Though easily accommodating up to six bedrooms and 6.5 baths, buyers may choose to create a wine room, media and entertainment center, chef's kitchen or art gallery.

LUXURIOUS AMENITIES
Each home features oversized living/dining rooms, gourmet kitchens, sumptuous master bathrooms and floor-to-ceiling windows. With the assistance of One Museum's professional interior designers, every buyer has the opportunity to custonize their home, utilizing finishes of the highest quality including imported Italian marbles, furniture quality cabinetry and custom millwork. The "Design Center Showroom" offers endless opportunities for luxury, turning each person's vision into a reality.

One Museum Park will provide residents with numerous hotel-style amenities including a full-survice concierge office and 24-hour doorman on duty to assist residents and greet their guests.

ONE MUSEUM PARK CLUB
Situated on the fifth floor, the "club" offers something for everything. It features a heated indoor lap pool as well as a professionally equipped fitness center, which includes seperate men's and women's locker rooms and a sauna. Additionally, a multi-purpose room is ideal for a yoga or Pilates class.

On those beautiful summer days, residents can take a dip in the outdoor pool or relax and savor the views from the spacious sundeck. And for entertaining, the "Owner's Club" boasts gracious gathering spaces with an adjacent restaurant-quality kitchen-perfect for hosting just about any kind of celebration.

THE LAKEFRONT NEIGHBORHOOD
The homes themselves are simply one reason why Museum Park has become a desirable lakefront neighborhood. Outside the door, residents have access to some of the best Chicago has to offer.

Staps away lay the world-class institutions of Museum Campus or the flower gardens at Grant Park. Outdoor enthusiasts will enjoy the close proximity to the 20-mile lakefront path, perfect for jogging, biking or walking. Also, tennis courts and fields are three blocks away, and water lovers are only a short stroll to the beach.

"Being close to so much is what makes this a great neighborhood," shipka said. "Living at Museum Park presents you with an infinate variety of choices for recreation, shopping, supurb dining and entertainment. No other location offers so much."

For more information or to make an appointment, please call 312-363-0200 or visit the web site at www.onemuseumpark.com

ChicagoLover
March 20th, 2005, 12:40 AM
Gee, Skyline News needs an editor!

chicagogeorge
April 10th, 2005, 04:51 PM
This article was in the Sun Times today! Good news!
High-rise units by museums selling fast

April 10, 2005

BY BILL CUNNIFF Real Estate Reporter Advertisement








Sales are soaring at One Museum Park, a 61-story condominium development near Michigan and Museum Campus. The high-rise will have 277 units.

"Since our Jan. 23 grand opening, we have sold more than 80 percent of the homes," said Ron Shipka Jr., a principal of Enterprise Companies, the developer.

One-bedroom units, with dens, start in the $400,000s. Sizes range from 959 to 1,002 square feet.

Two-bedroom condos, with dens, are priced from the $600,000s. Sizes range from 1,425 to 1,700 square feet.

Three-bedroom units, with 3 baths, begin in the $800,000s. Sizes range from 1,821 to 2,917 square feet.

Penthouses, on floors 57 through 61, are priced from $4.5 million.

"Due to the impact One Museum will have on the Chicago skyline, it was imperative for us to create a truly elegant, landmark-quality building," Shipka said. "Another primary goal was to provide every resident with not only spectacular views of the city, but also the guarantee that they'll be unobstructed forever." Floor-to-ceiling windows are standard.

Building amenities include heated parking, a heated indoor lap pool and a fitness center.

Construction is slated to begin this fall. First occupancies are expected by late 2007.

One Museum Park is part of Central Station. In 1994, Central Station began with the construction of townhomes. Since then, this lakefront neighborhood has boomed with the building of more town houses, high-rise condominiums, apartments and retail stores.

One Museum Park, 1259 S. Indiana, Chicago. Enterprise Cos., (312) 362-0200.

BVictor1
April 25th, 2005, 02:53 AM
I don't know if anyone has seen the rendering of One Museum Park in the Tribune, but to me it seems at if the crown of the building is much more pronounced. It seems taller than before and it also seems to have a bit more detail.

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed this?

geoff_diamond
April 25th, 2005, 04:32 AM
I didn't catch the rendering. Can you post it? I'll put together a comparison graphic if you do.

BVictor1
April 27th, 2005, 01:43 AM
Here's the rendering that I was talking about. To me, it seems as if the crown has been refined and looks abit taller, or is it just me?

http://img255.echo.cx/img255/3018/1mpa9ui.jpg

geoff_diamond
April 27th, 2005, 04:10 AM
Thanks for posting the rendering Butler! As promised, I held up my end of the bargain and put together a quick comparison shot. I think what you're seeing as increased height might actually be the result of two changes at the top (at least as I perceive them).

1) The angle at which the crown extends out of the liveable space seems to have been made more severe

2) One of the masses (to the right of the center, columnar, mass) seems to have been eliminated.

I think it's a combination of these two changes (with, perhaps, a third - the reduction of scale on the crown's horizontal banding) that have produced the illusion of increased height. Of course, this is all merely speculation as I'm not about to start counting floors on this bohemoth :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/geoff_diamond/Chicago%20-%20Renderings/omp_modified.jpg

geoff_diamond
April 27th, 2005, 04:13 AM
As a follow-up, I'd like to note that I think these small changes have already made big leaps toward a more refined appearance. I remember noting, when we first saw the renderings, that I thought the structure was a bit bloated. I think these minor fixes have gone a long way to thin out the building and I look forward to a few more tweaks before they break ground on this one.

Steely Dan
April 27th, 2005, 05:48 AM
^ i am in complete agreement geoff. the top in the new rendering is much improved.

oshkeoto
April 27th, 2005, 05:55 AM
This building is still way too awkward. I'd like to see a fairly major redesign to give it some sort of coherence.

richardsonhomebuyers
July 12th, 2005, 01:33 AM
Just wanted to ad a little update. Looking at the blueprints today, they call for the height to be 735'.

BVictor1
July 12th, 2005, 03:31 AM
Just wanted to ad a little update. Looking at the blueprints today, they call for the height to be 735'.

GOD-DAMNNNNN..........

Uh...I just busted.

I'm going to have to have a little chat with Tim Desmond.

Thank you so very much for this information.

richardsonhomebuyers
July 12th, 2005, 03:45 AM
Just don't provide my name when you mention this. I work for a repro company and am not to sure if I'm suppose to be sharing what I see.

Chi_Coruscant
July 12th, 2005, 04:08 AM
Just wanted to ad a little update. Looking at the blueprints today, they call for the height to be 735'.
Whoa! Cheerio, mates! :booze:

BVictor1
July 12th, 2005, 08:09 AM
Just don't provide my name when you mention this. I work for a repro company and am not to sure if I'm suppose to be sharing what I see.


Anonomyous source my man----

I would never give a name, because I don't want anyone to get in trouble. Also, thanks for letting us know what relationship you have to the project. I'm sure that the heights will be changed on emporis once one of the members sees the blue-prints, and I am going to see if I can get an appointment to see Mr. Desmond of Enterprise Development. I also want to get information on the 32 story building that will be built on 14th and Michigan.

chicagogeorge
July 12th, 2005, 02:16 PM
Anonomyous source my man----

I would never give a name, because I don't want anyone to get in trouble. Also, thanks for letting us know what relationship you have to the project. I'm sure that the heights will be changed on emporis once one of the members sees the blue-prints, and I am going to see if I can get an appointment to see Mr. Desmond of Enterprise Development. I also want to get information on the 32 story building that will be built on 14th and Michigan.

735' is spectacular news man!
When is One Museum park supposed to break ground?

Also, 14th and Michigan is 2 blocks south of where I bought a unit. I'm at 1250 S. Michigan- Michicagn Ave. Towers. BVictor1, I think you are refering to Michigan Ave. Towers 2 that is I believe going to be 32 stories. If you are refering to that bulding, it is being developed by Franklin and Giles, and according to a source that I have in that company, they have already sold over 50%.

BVictor1
July 12th, 2005, 03:21 PM
735' is spectacular news man!
When is One Museum park supposed to break ground?

Also, 14th and Michigan is 2 blocks south of where I bought a unit. I'm at 1250 S. Michigan- Michicagn Ave. Towers. BVictor1, I think you are refering to Michigan Ave. Towers 2 that is I believe going to be 32 stories. If you are refering to that bulding, it is being developed by Franklin and Giles, and according to a source that I have in that company, they have already sold over 50%.

No, I'm not thinking of Michigan Avenue Tower 2. That building will go on the west sidof the street. The building I am talking about is planned for the east side of the street. The building I'm taking about will be at 1337-1355 South Michigan, which is on the east side.

This was posted by Jaroslaw in the SSP forum, look at the building in the bottom left corner of the rendering, and compare it to the picture.....

In today's Tribune (it was lying around at a cafe), there is a neat drawing of Central Station, with a new building apparently planned to the S of Lofts II (bottom left corner):

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/mu.ren.jpg

A couple of neat buildings there now:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/mu.jpg

Edit: ss.com has it listed as 1337-1355 South Michigan Avenue, 32F, proposed.

BVictor1
July 14th, 2005, 03:05 AM
I stopped by the sales center today at Museum Park, and I was told that the height of the tower will be 720'. The person that I spoke with works for Enterprise Companies, which is the developer, and he called Pappageorge/Hames on the speaker phone, and talked with the architect directly. The architect said the tower is 720'. I asked him over the speaker phone if that height figure includes the crown, and he said that it's the very, very top of the building.

I have the gentlemans card from the Enterprise Company, and I asked him if it would be okay to look at the blueprints to get the acurate floor count and heights, and he said sure, but in about 3 weeks, because things are still being tweaked.

I asked him when construction was going to begin, and he said early October.

richardsonhomebuyers
July 14th, 2005, 03:41 AM
They must have changed it again. The drawings I looked at were the last ones we had updated on our server. Atleast it only 15 feet less. wish it was more.

2PRUROCKS!
July 15th, 2005, 02:44 AM
The difference in height of 735 and 720ft maybe a product of where the builing will be officially measured. My guess is it will be measure from the entrance on Rooswvelt Rd. which at that location is rising for the overpass of the RR tracks. Actual ground level is below Roosevelt by ~15ft.

BVictor1
July 16th, 2005, 09:57 PM
I sent an email to the developers of One Museum Park and the Central Station development the other day, and I finally got a response. Below is the email transaction between myself and the developer...

My Email
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:34 AM
To: Tim Desmond
Subject: One Museum Park (check in)

Hello Mr. Desmond,

I've tried not to contact you for a while because I knew that some of
the design features were still a work in progress, but several things
have recently come to my attention, and I could wait no longer.

I have an unconfirmed report from an anonomyous source that One Museum
Park will be 735' tall...
I was wondering if the is an accurate figure? If not, is there a set
height for the tower yet?

I was also wondering if construction is still starting this fall?


I also read several weeks ago that you applied for a zoning change for the property at 1337-1355 South Michigan, and it will be improved with a 32-story building containing commercial/retail at its base, 260 dwelling units and accessory parking. I was wondering if there is a ball park height figure for this building?

Were you going to try at all to save the facades of any of the buildings currently on the site? Several of them seem quite nice.

Currently that's all that I can think of. If you have more information
that can be provided, it will certainly be welcome. I've also included
a rendering, which was in this past Sundays Tribune, and it appears to show the proposed 32 story building in the lower left corner.

I do hope to hear from you with some exciting news.

> Butler V. Adams

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THE RESPONSE

Hello-

In order;

1) No, it is 720' tall
2) We are scheduled to commence construction in late September of this
year.
3) 300' to the ceiling of the last residential floor.
4) No.

td

richardsonhomebuyers
July 30th, 2005, 07:33 AM
I'm not sure what is going on with this consusion over how tall it will be. I just worked on a set of plans that was sent to us today that still shows a hieght of 734.

2PRUROCKS!
August 1st, 2005, 05:29 AM
^ Is there a difference between the ground level and the main entrance? Check to see where the starting elevation is measured. Is it from the ground or the main entrance? If it is from the ground and the main entrance is on Roosevelt then the official height would be measured from the main entrance and be less than what they show the total height to be on the blueprints from ground level.

BVictor1
September 13th, 2005, 04:13 AM
I got an email today that construction would begin in October. Here's an updated rendering.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4526/grantparktowerrende1458301kd.jpg

spyguy
September 13th, 2005, 04:48 AM
^Thanks for the image. So now, what happened at the meeting?

wickedestcity
September 13th, 2005, 05:07 AM
that buildings hot !!

ChicagoLover
September 13th, 2005, 05:36 AM
That's a relief (I think). I was getting nervous about this one.

The Urban Politician
September 13th, 2005, 07:01 AM
Now THAT's what I call a Chicago-style building.

Big shoulders, bold, and masculine

geoff_diamond
September 14th, 2005, 04:29 AM
I don't know from shoulders... but, it's definately big. Too big I think. But, hopefully it's just an unflattering angle.

chicagogeorge
September 14th, 2005, 04:31 AM
I love this final design. Can't wait for this one!

The Urban Politician
September 14th, 2005, 09:12 AM
Our more "refined" architecture-buff counterparts at SSP are much more critical of it. My gosh, as if Waterview Tower and Fordham Spire aren't sleek and feminine enough :ohno:

But for me it's big, glassy, powerful, and really begins the process of framing in Grant Park, and I can't wait for it to get built.

I'm sick of being able to see stuff south of Roosevelt.

And the sky? Overrated--shroud us in massive towers!

wickedestcity
September 14th, 2005, 04:35 PM
Our more "refined" architecture-buff counterparts at SSP are much more critical of it. My gosh, as if Waterview Tower and Fordham Spire aren't sleek and feminine enough :ohno:

But for me it's big, glassy, powerful, and really begins the process of framing in Grant Park, and I can't wait for it to get built.

I'm sick of being able to see stuff south of Roosevelt.

And the sky? Overrated--shroud us in massive towers!
on the other hand , being to hasty in building buildings just for the sake of building and expanding the skyline and filling in holes isent good either. in the end were left looking at Mediocre buildings and a half assed skyline for the next 100 years(or at least a section of it will look like that)

UrbanSophist
September 14th, 2005, 04:52 PM
Just stating the obvious....

Chicago is the greatest city in the world. :)

I can't wait for the rest of Grant Park to be redeveloped...

Children in Chicago will grow up not knowing how good they have it...

Frumie
September 14th, 2005, 11:36 PM
It's prow shape reminds of the great ore boats that ply Lake Michigan. So far we have seen only it's north face; what does it look like from behind?

The Urban Politician
September 15th, 2005, 04:10 AM
Children in Chicago will grow up not knowing how good they have it...

^Children will grow up in Chicago?

wickedestcity
September 15th, 2005, 05:39 AM
It's prow shape reminds of the great ore boats that ply Lake Michigan. So far we have seen only it's north face; what does it look like from behind?

are you shure you wanna see that buildings big ass?????
http://www.tiggysribticklers.com/images/buttlookbig.jpg

Frumie
September 15th, 2005, 04:57 PM
are you shure you wanna see that buildings big ass?????
http://www.tiggysribticklers.com/images/buttlookbig.jpg
My apprehensiveness precisely wickedestcity. :omg:

BVictor1
October 12th, 2005, 08:07 AM
Well, I confirmed the height of the building yesterday afternoon. I got a quick glance of the blueprints for the building, and it will be exactly 720' to the top of the crown.

Chicago Shawn
November 2nd, 2005, 02:56 AM
A CASE drilling crane was just delivered to the site this afternoon. The site has been potholed too, so after some assembelly, and the delivery of a few more parts this one is a go. The mack daddy of Central Station could be under construction by this weekend! Oh yes, what a great day it is. :cucumber:

ChicagoLover
November 2nd, 2005, 04:07 AM
YESSSSS! I LOVE THIS BUILDING! This is really the one I have been waiting for. Does anyone know the percentage sold on 1MP?

The Urban Politician
November 2nd, 2005, 05:34 PM
A CASE drilling crane was just delivered to the site this afternoon. The site has been potholed too, so after some assembelly, and the delivery of a few more parts this one is a go. The mack daddy of Central Station could be under construction by this weekend! Oh yes, what a great day it is. :cucumber:

^ I shall now begin dancing: :dance2:

nomarandlee
November 2nd, 2005, 07:15 PM
Does anyone else think this could spur some more super tall development that far south if it is shown to be a success? Or do you think this building will prove to be an anomoly for near south development?

northsidesoxfan
November 2nd, 2005, 08:42 PM
Any idea if they are going to cover the tracks to the east of the building? The models photographed on the first page of this thread showed the tracks covered.

wickedestcity
November 2nd, 2005, 08:51 PM
i think this could be a great ancore for the south frame of the park and could very well attract more projects to the surrounding areas. the south end needed a sexy tall building like this one to help that area grow and help extend the skyline south

Chi_Coruscant
November 2nd, 2005, 09:03 PM
There should be at least 3 more 50+ story buildings closed to 1MP. The architect is the same one who did 1MP: PappaGeorge.

Rascacielos
November 2nd, 2005, 10:26 PM
Any idea if they are going to cover the tracks to the east of the building? The models photographed on the first page of this thread showed the tracks covered.

As I recall they are supposed to cover the tracks and effectively extend the park to 14th street.

BVictor1
November 2nd, 2005, 11:57 PM
Danm shawn, you beat me to this by an entire day. The tracks will be covered eventually down to about 14th St. I believe.

ChicagoLover
November 3rd, 2005, 03:43 AM
BVictor, Shawn, do you mean the tracks will be covered *all* the way from the Art Institute down to 14th or simply for a short distance in front of 1MP?

dvidler
November 3rd, 2005, 04:07 PM
Unfortunately just from Roosevelt to 14th or 15th.

Hopefully someday it will be covered most of the way.

northsidesoxfan
November 3rd, 2005, 05:10 PM
Does anyone have any indication whether they are going to actually construct the covering of the tracks (Roosevelt south to 14th/15th) concurrently with contruction of OneMuseumPark?

Or is it still just a plan for the indefinate future?

Chi_Coruscant
November 3rd, 2005, 06:17 PM
I would like to see the park covering the tracks. Hopefully, a wealthy Chicago family would be patriotic enough to underwrite the construction costs in exchange for the name to be used in "Museum Campus Park presented by __________ Family."

BVictor1
November 3rd, 2005, 10:26 PM
I don't want all of the tracks in Grant park to be covered. I want some reminder if the industrial past of Chicago to remain, especially downtown. Those tracks helped Chicago become what it is today. As far as I know, from Roosevelt Roar south to about 14thor 15th the tracks will eventually be covered. I don't know if anything will happen to the tracks between Roosevelt and the Art Institute.

The Urban Politician
November 4th, 2005, 05:40 PM
I don't want all of the tracks in Grant park to be covered. I want some reminder if the industrial past of Chicago to remain, especially downtown. Those tracks helped Chicago become what it is today. As far as I know, from Roosevelt Roar south to about 14thor 15th the tracks will eventually be covered. I don't know if anything will happen to the tracks between Roosevelt and the Art Institute.

^Actually, it would be better if it were the other way around. The tracks running through Grant Park should be covered, while the ones between Roosevelt and 15th can stay open.

Grant Park should really be a complete park, if you ask me

nomarandlee
November 4th, 2005, 06:37 PM
It is not like they have to build any more Mill Parks along the rest of it to make it worthwhile. Just make them some nice green landscapes areas or just some freaking lawns for all I care.
They are doing that in Brooklyn with a huge rail yard with one of the buildings being the new Nets stadium. They have the right idea (though I don't suggest building on the covering)
Did anyone else see the J.Lehrer hour last night on PBS on the 28 acre development plan in Brooklyn? It was a great piece.

BVictor1
November 4th, 2005, 09:26 PM
It's still going to be a couple of days until they start drilling caissons. I went by the construction site yesterday to take a closer look, and they still hve some potholing to do. There were wooden piles still roped off that needed to be removed. Also, the only crane on site at this time is a service crane. There are no other materials or drilling attachments on site yet.

Also, I got a chance to go to the sales center, and look what I found. Look closely..... Do you see anything strange or different???

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8506/p10105044qd.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9013/p10105120al.jpg

It's tower 2 and there will be more information in January

Chi_Coruscant
November 4th, 2005, 09:30 PM
Yike! The 2nd tower! It looks like it will have 670' tall. :eek2:

spyguy
November 4th, 2005, 09:31 PM
Whoa. What just happened?

NWside
November 4th, 2005, 09:36 PM
The giant penis building next to less dominating hole, how symbolic....

Dale
November 4th, 2005, 09:42 PM
Sales must be good. And they do make a cute couple.

ChicagoSkyline
November 7th, 2005, 12:38 PM
I got an email today that construction would begin in October. Here's an updated rendering.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4526/grantparktowerrende1458301kd.jpg

Man, from the render setting with da background of that empty skyline of chicago(South loop), This thing looks bulky and scary,lol! Reminded of evil empire that has it huge castle on da south side! But nice looking design tho! :) :runaway:

ChicagoSkyline
November 7th, 2005, 12:43 PM
It's still going to be a couple of days until they start drilling caissons. I went by the construction site yesterday to take a closer look, and they still hve some potholing to do. There were wooden piles still roped off that needed to be removed. Also, the only crane on site at this time is a service crane. There are no other materials or drilling attachments on site yet.

Also, I got a chance to go to the sales center, and look what I found. Look closely..... Do you see anything strange or different???

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8506/p10105044qd.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9013/p10105120al.jpg

It's tower 2 and there will be more information in January

Wow, thanks for da great shots, your trip is well worth awhile,lol! Dang, 2nd tower right next to that bulky big fellow! Man, da south loop all of sudden going to be another big shoulder that chicago skyline has been missing! Looks like this one museum park project is the start of supertall boom for south side! :eek2:

wickedestcity
November 7th, 2005, 04:32 PM
its like haveing a pregnant wife and you think its going to be just one kid and the next thing you know its twins . mazal tov!

spyguy
November 11th, 2005, 01:17 AM
According to Tom, the new tower is called One Museum Park West (original, right?) and will start sales in the beginning/early 2006.

Chi_Coruscant
November 11th, 2005, 02:14 AM
One Museum Park West, eh? Sound like "Central Park West".

What's next? One Museum Park South? :hahaha:

mohammed wong
November 12th, 2005, 05:12 AM
If that one building looked more like the model (more solid and featureless and then paint the top red), they would probably call it the LIPSTICK building!

Hey urbie, I like this project :)

The Urban Politician
November 12th, 2005, 05:40 PM
:sleepy:

ugh....the forums are dull today

Chi_Coruscant
November 13th, 2005, 03:52 PM
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4360/pichome158dz.jpg
The second tower

http://www.onemuseumparkvip.com/home.html

spyguy
November 13th, 2005, 04:33 PM
I wonder if it'll turn out green or blue. It looks like both in that.

Chi_Coruscant
November 13th, 2005, 04:42 PM
A better rendering in full-page can be found in page 5 in today's Tribune's Real Estate section.

It is green.

BVictor1
November 13th, 2005, 07:55 PM
I counted 53 floors that have balconies, then there are several additional mechanical floors plus that curvy crown.

spyguy
November 13th, 2005, 11:19 PM
~600 ft would you guess?

The Urban Politician
November 14th, 2005, 01:57 AM
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9013/p10105120al.jpg

^This view of One Museum Park is just incredible.

I especially love the dramatic "stepping down" of the southern facade--it will really be impressive on a grand scale

geoff_diamond
November 14th, 2005, 07:07 AM
Bah... looks like something off the Vegas strip to me :\

ChicagoLover
November 14th, 2005, 09:47 PM
^ Geoff, you're kidding!!

geoff_diamond
November 15th, 2005, 06:23 PM
Well... the base in particular. Just look at the damn thing. Looks like some resort hotel in Miami or Vegas rather than a true urban highrise in Chicago. Hopefully it looks better in reality than it does in model form.

ChicagoLover
November 15th, 2005, 08:38 PM
Well it does seem as though these tower may be rather isolated from the city a la Lake Point Tower.. and that, of course, I don't like. Maybe 'isolated' is too strong a word, but not well integrated.

geoff_diamond
November 16th, 2005, 07:33 AM
It's not so much the isolation that concerns me as it is the over-expression of the base. I mean, it looks like a friggin' luxury hotel and casino at the base instead of an urban residence.

UrbanSophist
November 16th, 2005, 07:43 AM
It's not so much the isolation that concerns me as it is the over-expression of the base. I mean, it looks like a friggin' luxury hotel and casino at the base instead of an urban residence.

I really dislike the base, too.

The Urban Politician
November 16th, 2005, 06:50 PM
It's not so much the isolation that concerns me as it is the over-expression of the base. I mean, it looks like a friggin' luxury hotel and casino at the base instead of an urban residence.

^I think the base gives off that impression from that particular southwestern view, especially with the car-port, etc. But keep in mind that another building will eventually be built directly south of One MP West, thus it won't be as visible. That will mitigate the Las Vegas effect pretty well

geoff_diamond
November 17th, 2005, 04:52 AM
*holding my breath in anticipation* :)

ChicagoLover
November 17th, 2005, 06:53 PM
^ With regard to the base, I can't tell, as the model leaves much to the imagination. But I am absolutely enamored with this project. Its my absolute favorite skyscraper being contructed in Chicago right now for a number of reasons: (1) the design of 1 MP kicks ass -- is there anyone who disagrees? (2) the design kicks ass in large part because the city planners pressured the developer and architect for over a year to keep improving it, which demonstrates that, even without a starchitect, a city can achieve great design with the right city planners pulling the right levers, and finally (3) as a former South Sider, I am always routing first for the south lakefront. With this tower, the South Loop will have risen again! (or, er, for the first time?)

Adam186
November 17th, 2005, 10:22 PM
^So it is underconstruction right now? Site prep is done?

wickedestcity
November 18th, 2005, 12:05 AM
i passed by today in my car from work and from my car i can see some cranes ,there was a fence up so i couldent see much

geoff_diamond
November 19th, 2005, 05:08 AM
Well ChicagoLover... you wanted to know if anyone disagreed about the design of OMP. Well, I do. I've voiced my displeasure with it from the very start. I think it is entirely too large. I love the height, but, I thought we were entering a period of slender skyscrapers that OMP is clearly defying. It's like the 80's hulking giant all over again.

SkokieSwift
November 20th, 2005, 03:14 AM
I agree, in general, slender towers are better. But not in this location. The south "wall" of Grant Park needs to be a wall. Not a picket fence of slim skyscrapers.

wickedestcity
November 20th, 2005, 03:53 AM
welcome skokieswift

UrbanSophist
November 20th, 2005, 04:30 AM
I drove by the site today. I think this tower is just going to be great and the base really won't be very visible, I don't think. Can't wait till its built!

Azn_chi_boi
November 20th, 2005, 03:05 PM
I agree, in general, slender towers are better. But not in this location. The south "wall" of Grant Park needs to be a wall. Not a picket fence of slim skyscrapers.

Welcome.

I agree... There should be the last wall of Grant Park... 3/4 of the park by skyscrapers, the last 1/4 would be the forever open Lake Michigan!

Anyways, I like the design of the building too....

SkokieSwift
November 22nd, 2005, 03:58 AM
Yup. Another beautiful set of big shoulders for The City of Big Shoulders.

geoff_diamond
November 22nd, 2005, 04:18 AM
Well, the only thing that has kept me from throwing my hands up in disgust over this building entirely is that Pappageorge/Haymes is the design architect on the project. I have the utmost faith in them and I'm sure it will turn out just fine. It's just not entirely my style.

BVictor1
December 12th, 2005, 09:34 PM
I've just come from the site, and construction will begin really soon. Workers were in the process of setting up caisson cranes, there will be 2 of them. There is rebar and other construction materials being delivered to the site. I believe by the end of the week or early next week this baby will be under construction.

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/12/421135.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/12/421138.jpg

Chi_Coruscant
December 12th, 2005, 09:54 PM
WOW! This is fantastic!

Thank you, BVictor! :applause:

ChicagoLover
December 12th, 2005, 10:56 PM
^ Ohhhh yeah. I know "God is in the details" as Mies said, but I'm predicting this building will be more beautiful than Angelina Jolie, Catherine Zeta-Jones, and Charlize Theron combined. (I don't mean Conan O'Brien combination either.) OK, maybe I"m exaggerating a little..

The Urban Politician
December 12th, 2005, 11:41 PM
^ Ohhhh yeah. I know "God is in the details" as Mies said, but I'm predicting this building will be more beautiful than Angelina Jolie, Catherine Zeta-Jones, and Charlize Theron combined. (I don't mean Conan O'Brien combination either.) OK, maybe I"m exaggerating a little..

More beautiful than Charlize Theron? Not sure if that's even possible....

Anyway, thanks Victor--we've all been waiting especially for this one, as well as Waterview Tower

pottebaum
December 13th, 2005, 12:31 AM
^It's possible. :D

http://zalus.koga.hu/monster_charlize_03.jpg

And thanks for the update, Victor!

chicagogeorge
December 13th, 2005, 04:11 AM
It's about damn time. Doesn't it seem that they start most major construction projects in the winter??

BVictor1
December 15th, 2005, 12:26 AM
I am pleased to report that One Museum Park is now officially under-constructin. I just came from the site and noticed that several caisson holes have been drilled.

spyguy
December 15th, 2005, 12:33 AM
Finally! Once these kinds of projects are finished the southern edge of the skyline is going to finally have some representation.

The Urban Politician
December 16th, 2005, 08:39 AM
I am pleased to report that One Museum Park is now officially under-constructin. I just came from the site and noticed that several caisson holes have been drilled.

^ :applause:

That is ABSOLUTELY SPLENDID!

spyguy
December 27th, 2005, 03:43 AM
Not sure where this should go, but there's already OMP West renderings here, so here's another.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9169/ompt214sn.jpg

Plus there are floor plans available online.

simulcra
December 27th, 2005, 06:21 AM
Sorry if i've missed this info, but is the only entrance on the southwest area? Seems a bit isolating; i was hoping for direct park frontage.

BVictor1
December 27th, 2005, 09:42 PM
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9169/ompt214sn.jpg


It's funny how they leave One Museum Park Tower 1 out of the rendering. Isn't that like false advertising?

spyguy
December 27th, 2005, 09:47 PM
Probably not false advertising, but deceptive. I'm sure they don't want to scare their potential customers with OMP's scale.

spyguy
January 2nd, 2006, 07:46 PM
It's funny how they leave One Museum Park Tower 1 out of the rendering. Isn't that like false advertising?

I think they overheard you. Another one is up now:
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/4158/ompwest6co.jpg

Bad news is that it says "Coming February 2006."

BVictor1
January 2nd, 2006, 11:12 PM
I think they overheard you. Another one is up now:
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/4158/ompwest6co.jpg

Bad news is that it says "Coming February 2006."


That's not really bad news. There are always delays. I'm going back to the sales center in about 3 weeks to see if there is any new information on the tower.

And the other building that you mentiones was 1600 Museum Park. I just called the sales center and was told that there should be more information in a few weeks. The building will be at 16th and Michigan.

http://www.1600museumpark.com/
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/683/16009lu.jpg/

ChicagoLover
January 3rd, 2006, 08:03 AM
^ If all of these Michigan Avenue proposals become reality, the stretch from Roosevelt to Cermak is going to become one of Chicago's prime residential stretches. Where else will will you have a row of towers on both sides of the street for 10+ blocks?

BVictor1
January 15th, 2006, 12:26 AM
I can't believe that we let this thread slip to the third page. Anyway I visiyed the sales center yesterday and was told that One Museum Park is roughly 85% sold. The grand opening for One Museum Park West will be February 4,2006. They will be going straight to contracts for this tower. The top residentila floor is 53 in this building. The have a very nice model for tower 2 now on display. I of course took some shots of it.

The base of the northern facade that fronts Roosevelt Road.
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3A4%3B568%7Ffp337%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3233467%3A93%3C37nu0mrj

View of the northern elevation looking south.
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3A4%3B568%7Ffp338%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3233467%3A93%3C3%3Anu0mrj

View of the southern elevation looking north.
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3A4%3B568%7Ffp338%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3233467%3A93%3C59nu0mrj

The base of the southern facade showing garage entrance and drop off points.
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3A4%3B568%7Ffp336%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3233467%3A93%3C67nu0mrj

The base of the western elevation which fronts Indiana Avenue.
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3A4%3B568%7Ffp335%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3233467%3A93%3C7%3Anu0mrj

View of the eastern elevation looking west.
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3A4%3B568%7Ffp337%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3233467%3A93%3C87nu0mrj

View of the western elevation looking east.
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3A4%3B568%7Ffp335%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3233467%3A93%3C%3A%3Cnu0mrj

Some shots of the crown.
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3A4%3B568%7Ffp338%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3233467%3A93%3C8%3Bnu0mrj

http://images.snapfish.com/345%3A4%3B568%7Ffp338%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3233467%3A93%3C96nu0mrj

http://images.snapfish.com/345%3A4%3B568%7Ffp336%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3233467%3A93%3C%3A3nu0mrj

I also heard a rumor that because of the success of OMP East, there is a chance that tower 4(at the corner of Michigan & Roosevelt) could possible be the taller. As I said, this is just a rumor.

rgolch
January 15th, 2006, 12:32 AM
great pics, as usual, BVictor.

Chi_Coruscant
January 15th, 2006, 12:46 AM
I also heard a rumor that because of the success of OMP East, there is a chance that tower 4(at the corner of Michigan & Roosevelt) could possible be the taller. As I said, this is just a rumor.

Great job, BVictor! What about 3rd tower?

spyguy
January 15th, 2006, 01:40 AM
Really nice job. That curvy top is very sleek.

Jules
January 15th, 2006, 03:23 AM
That crown is great. Very unique.

geoff_diamond
January 15th, 2006, 09:55 AM
I like this tower so much better than OMP. I'm glad that we're getting two monsters, but, I definately think the smaller of them is superior.

BVictor1
February 7th, 2006, 11:02 PM
I got a confirmed height today for one Museum Park West 620'

wickedestcity
February 7th, 2006, 11:48 PM
sweet , i would love to see a rendering of all the buildings at once and how theyl look up against each other and against the skyline

Chi_Coruscant
February 7th, 2006, 11:56 PM
I expect that number since the model of 1MPW is shorter than the 1MP. 620' is nice.

BVictor1
February 10th, 2006, 07:25 PM
I just came from Pappageorge/Haymes with Shawn. We were able to see the blueprints for One Museum Park, and we found a very nice suprise. That 720' height is taken from Roosevelt Road and not the main entrance, and remember Roosevelt is elevated in that location. The actual height of this building is 734' 2". Also, the building is 65 stories not 62. There are 3 mechanical penthouse floors above 62, which is the top residential floor.

I wasn't albe to see the plans for One Museum Park West at this time, as they are still preliminary and are subject to change. That also means that the height will have to be altered for that one as well, but for now the 620' figure will stand.

spyguy
February 10th, 2006, 10:25 PM
Nice little increase. Thanks.

BVictor1
February 11th, 2006, 10:54 PM
Here's a much better rendering of One Museum Park West

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/02/435417.jpg

spyguy
February 12th, 2006, 02:15 AM
Yeah, that is much nicer.

chicagogeorge
February 12th, 2006, 04:48 AM
Now that looks great!

Chi_Coruscant
February 12th, 2006, 04:58 AM
Wow....me likey.

ChicagoLover
February 12th, 2006, 05:36 AM
As much I like the high-definition rendering in context, I can't understand why One Museum Park is left out, especially since that building is being built *first*. Also, I am under the imrpession that all the other areas in that photo surrounding 1MP West depicted as parrks will be built upon. Am I correct in assuming this?

Adam186
February 12th, 2006, 06:12 AM
^As I said on SSP: 1MP and other building arenn't being advertised so why would they include them. The point of these renderings is emphasize a particular building. If they included 1MP it overpower 1MP West.

geoff_diamond
February 12th, 2006, 06:13 AM
I believe Museum Tower is being topped out as we speak in the green-space to the bottom-right of the picture while, yes, OMP is going in the green space just to the east (upper left) of OMPW. I'm not sure what's going in to the south of it (if anything) - can anyone shed some light?

SkokieSwift
February 12th, 2006, 07:50 AM
I believe Museum Tower is being topped out as we speak in the green-space to the bottom-right of the picture while, yes, OMP is going in the green space just to the east (upper left) of OMPW. I'm not sure what's going in to the south of it (if anything) - can anyone shed some light?

Hmm. Granted I'm over 2,000 miles away and can only piece this together from construction photos, but I believe Museum Tower is in the green space directly south of OMPW in the new rendering.

wickedestcity
February 12th, 2006, 10:42 AM
omg , that looks like a photo!!

The Urban Politician
February 12th, 2006, 07:04 PM
Thanks for the rendering, Victor

Chicagotom
February 12th, 2006, 07:46 PM
I believe Museum Tower is being topped out as we speak in the green-space to the bottom-right of the picture while, yes, OMP is going in the green space just to the east (upper left) of OMPW. I'm not sure what's going in to the south of it (if anything) - can anyone shed some light?

Just to the south of OMPW - a 30 story tower is planned with a few townhomes at the base.

So in the block bordered by Roosevelt to 13th, Indiana to LSD there will be Museum Tower(36), OMP(67), OMPW(51) and another 30 story one.

ChicagoLover
February 12th, 2006, 10:12 PM
Is it outlandish to suggest that the developers are 'lying by omission' in leaving out 1MP and Museum Tower, giving the impression of unobstructed lake views from 1 MP West?

spyguy
February 12th, 2006, 11:34 PM
Well don't you think that potential buyers will *at least* see the model of Museum Park/Central Station and wonder what that big tower next to their building is? That's assuming that the OMP model is still up though.

Chicagotom
February 12th, 2006, 11:46 PM
Much to do about nothing. Enterprise has been omitting towers in their Central Station Ads for years. Check out OMP1 - you never see Museum Tower.

Hasn't seemed to slow the fastest selling development in Chicago. You get a good prespective of the whole development from their 3D model of Central Station.

I stoped by the sales center for the opening of 1600 MP. Brisk sales not quiet as insane as OMP1. OMPW sold over 50% in 8 hours last weekend and 1600 MP was not quite at 50% sold the first full day.

Spy Guy - Why havent you started a seperate thread for OMPW?

spyguy
February 13th, 2006, 12:03 AM
50%!? Wow, so this is basically a go, along with 1600. If these two can sell that much in a day, I am really starting to believe that all of Fordham Spire's units are going to go within a few hours or at most two days.

If someone wants to start a OMPW thread they can, but there probably is no reason. Construction won't start for some time either, and I'm wondering how much news/ how many updates there will be on this tower. Maybe a better idea is to start a Central Station thread here where we can post all of the non- OMP stuff in or change the title of this thread to include all the other projects as well?

Adam186
February 13th, 2006, 12:37 AM
I say that this thread name changes to include all of Central Station since it seems that everyone else is talking about all the other projects as well.

ChgoLvr83
February 13th, 2006, 12:50 AM
I believe that is already a thread specifically for Central Station. You gotta dig through the pages though.

Chicagotom
March 4th, 2006, 11:23 PM
Just a quick sales note on OMPWest. Went to the sales office this morning. Of the 262 units in this 53 story building at Roosevelt and Indiana there are only 100 units left.

spyguy
March 4th, 2006, 11:49 PM
So it's at about 60% then? Great news.

Chicagotom
March 25th, 2006, 12:43 AM
OMP1 Case Cranes leaving
http://images.snapfish.com/346647883%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D32335%3A85778%3B4nu0mrj

OMP1 Garage Construction underway

http://images.snapfish.com/346647883%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D32335%3A85778%3B5nu0mrj

Well after a few months I finally figured out how to put my pics up. More to come on South Loop and Central Station.

ChicagoLover
March 25th, 2006, 07:05 AM
Excellent, thanks ChicagoTom. I love OMP1 and I'm looking forward to seeing it go up.

Chicagotom
April 29th, 2006, 07:59 AM
I have high hopes that the final product will make a definitive mark on the Skyline!

Pouring the elevator pad
http://images1.snapfish.com/34694%3C546%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D323368%3B3%3B%3B%3A64nu0mrj

The tower crane base is finally in place
http://images1.snapfish.com/34694%3C546%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D323368%3B445%3C5%3Bnu0mrj

Taken from the Roosevelt Bridge overlooking OPM1
http://images1.snapfish.com/34694%3C5%3A9%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D323368%3B448%3A5%3Bnu0mrj

Chicagotom
May 4th, 2006, 03:04 AM
From 11th Street
http://images1.snapfish.com/346993%3A35%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D3233%3E5%3B7%3E68%3A%3E23245%3B777%3B979ot1lsi

From Tower 3
http://images1.snapfish.com/346993%3A35%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A8663786nu0mrj

BVictor1
May 4th, 2006, 05:00 PM
I just scanned this from Skyline

http://images1.snapfish.com/346998%3A57%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A9%3A3%3A895nu0mrj

spyguy
May 4th, 2006, 10:20 PM
Looks like a great pair!

SkokieSwift
May 5th, 2006, 05:35 AM
That's the first time I've noticed (or maybe it's new) that the OMP towers will be connected with that metallic-looking overhang and columns (?) at the base. Will they share a lobby???

Chi649
May 5th, 2006, 06:24 AM
Another shining example of the great high rise residentals being built or planned for Chicago. If we keep building beauties like these, I wonder if someday Chicago will become a preeminent city for high rise residental.

ChicagoSkyline
May 5th, 2006, 06:36 AM
I just scanned this from Skyline

http://images1.snapfish.com/346998%3A57%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A9%3A3%3A895nu0mrj

wow, thanks for all the updates, guys! I really like OMP! I think that south loop skyline is finally growing higher! :) :runaway:

ChicagoSkyline
May 5th, 2006, 06:38 AM
btw, are the rail tracks near OMP still in service or will be taken out?
http://images1.snapfish.com/346993%3A35%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D32336%3A8663786nu0mrj

ChgoLvr83
May 5th, 2006, 06:45 AM
They are still in use by Metra. And I think ChicagoShawn said that its in the master plans to cover up the tracks. The South Loop is really starting to mature and it'll be amazing when these buildings (low, mid, and high-rises) are finished. This area has potential for greatness oozing out of it pores.

Now, I only wish attention could be focused on Chicago Ave. Im obsessed with Chicago Ave for some reason.

ChicagoSkyline
May 5th, 2006, 06:55 AM
They are still in use by Metra. And I think ChicagoShawn said that its in the master plans to cover up the tracks. The South Loop is really starting to mature and it'll be amazing when these buildings (low, mid, and high-rises) are finished. This area has potential for greatness oozing out of it pores.

Now, I only wish attention could be focused on Chicago Ave. Im obsessed with Chicago Ave for some reason.

Hum, still in service by Metra!
Yep, I think that they should cover up the tracks for good, since it makes tons of noise when trains roll by and I don't think that the residents of OMP like that! :)

ChgoLvr83
May 5th, 2006, 07:04 AM
Hum, still in service by Metra!
Yep, I think that they should cover up the tracks for good, since it makes tons of noise when trains roll by and I don't think that the residents of OMP like that! :)

Actually, with it being electric powered (I believe), there shouldnt be too much noise at all. And the only time there should be any real disturbances should be during rush-hour and even then nothing significant. Before and after that, I doubt that they [residents] would notice it during their daily lives and if so then, I would think it'd be minor. I would expect more noise from LSD and Roosevelt Rd. Just my guess though...

And as far as the covering up the tracks, I'd think it would be more to do with aesthetics than noise from the trains.

ChicagoSkyline
May 5th, 2006, 07:16 AM
Actually, with it being electric powered (I believe), there shouldnt be too much noise at all. And the only time there should be any real disturbances should be during rush-hour and even then nothing significant. Before and after that, I doubt that they [residents] would notice it during their daily lives and if so then, I would think it'd be minor. Just my guess though...

And as far as the covering up the tracks, I'd think it would be more to do with aesthetics than noise from the trains.

Oh, that is all cool man, thanks for the info! :)

geoff_diamond
May 5th, 2006, 07:59 AM
Okay, that's the first angle I've seen of OMP that doesn't make me think this tower will be a huge blemish on the skyline. It actually looks somewhat slender in that shot!

spyguy
May 8th, 2006, 11:02 PM
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/676/omp1jb.jpg

UrbanSophist
May 8th, 2006, 11:07 PM
This is honestly going to change people's perception of the Chicago skyline. They are going to realize that it doesn't stop at the Sear Tower. lol. :cheers:

dvidler
May 9th, 2006, 07:34 PM
Thats a great picture. I really hope they get a chance to cover up those tracks as its done in picture

NittanyBLUE2002
May 23rd, 2006, 04:17 PM
Wow, this development looks 1,000 times better than the initial plans I saw a while back. Looks great. Very creative design, especially up on the crown.

Question: How will this development affect the views of the Chicago Skyline as seen from Soldier Field?

Chicagotom
May 23rd, 2006, 04:32 PM
A few new shots of OMP1
http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3B5%3C9%3C2%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D32337756834%3A3nu0mrj


http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3B5%3C9%3C2%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D323377568375%3Cnu0mrj

http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3B5%3C9%3C2%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D3233775683763nu0mrj

http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3B5%3C9%3C2%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D32337756834%3A5nu0mrj

djcody
May 23rd, 2006, 04:33 PM
Another beautiful landmark. love the crown on top of the building especially. Wish it were in my city.. lol. Much love from your Milwaukee neighbor!

Chicagotom
June 19th, 2006, 03:20 AM
Looking down from Tower 3
http://images1.snapfish.com/34738%3B493%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D323384%3C2%3C%3B948nu0mrj

Looking South from Roosevelt Road and the Metra tracks
http://images1.snapfish.com/34738%3B493%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D323384%3C2%3C4884nu0mrj

The tip of the Point
http://images1.snapfish.com/34738%3B493%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D3279%3E%3A85%3E266%3EWSNRCG%3D323384%3C2%3C842%3Anu0mrj

Newly poured floors
http://images1.snapfish.com/34738%3B493%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D3233%3E75%3B%3E2%3A5%3E232475%3B3963%3B%3Aot1lsi

spyguy
June 19th, 2006, 04:21 PM
It'll be interesting to see what the tip actually looks like when its all completed. I hope that these towers have special lighting as well.

forumly_chgoman
July 27th, 2006, 05:43 AM
Any updates on OMP, or museum park west for that matter?

forumly_chgoman
July 27th, 2006, 05:45 AM
I would be cool if someone could throw together what the southern skyline ie. south of millenium park running along Mich to and through central station will look like if all or most of the proposed projects reach completion

ChicagoSkyline
July 27th, 2006, 06:45 AM
Yea, time for some lovely updates,lol! :scouserd:
Anyway, thanks so much chicagotom for those OMP updates!:)

i_am_hydrogen
July 27th, 2006, 09:22 AM
From Tom In Chicago

You can really see how well the Central Station highrises are bookending the southern border of Grant Park (I love Sky55). Once One Museum Park (and, god willing, OMP West) is done, it's gonna be on, fools.
http://www.pbase.com/temper/image/63528826.jpg

ChicagoSkyline
July 27th, 2006, 10:23 AM
From Tom In Chicago

You can really see how well the Central Station highrises are bookending the southern border of Grant Park (I love Sky55). Once One Museum Park (and, god willing, OMP West) is done, it's gonna be on, fools.
http://www.pbase.com/temper/image/63528826.jpg

Thanks hydro for the update! It looks like this view is got south loop developments all over, great sight seeing spot for the next few years! :runaway:

spyguy
July 27th, 2006, 03:53 PM
Don't forget those other tall ones near Michigan and Roosevelt.

richardsonhomebuyers
July 27th, 2006, 04:04 PM
I'm pretty sure OMP West will be on. Bovis has be ordering a lot of sets of drawings for that building over the last month or so.

Azn_chi_boi
July 27th, 2006, 05:21 PM
The skyline is finally forming the 3rd wall around Grant park.

ChicagoSkyline
July 27th, 2006, 05:56 PM
The skyline is finally forming the 3rd wall around Grant park.

Finally, heading toward chinatown... :)

Chi649
December 5th, 2006, 07:11 AM
From Saturday

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7892/dsc06355hv1.jpg


http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4313/dsc06365nl9.jpg


http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4563/dsc06391rd6.jpg


http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1778/dsc06371qp5.jpg

spyguy
December 5th, 2006, 07:31 AM
Nice photos. From the first one (and the night lighting), I guess I finally understand what P/H was talking about when transitioning the styles of the buildings, although I still hate the first towers in Central Station.

wheelingman
December 6th, 2006, 01:34 AM
^ Nice photo update.

Chicago Shawn
January 9th, 2007, 09:00 AM
One Musuem Park, 01-02-2007...


https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/510139.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/510140.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/510141.jpg
For those of you concerened the north face on Grant Park will be too bulky, just look^. Seems pretty slender to me.

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/510142.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/510143.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/510144.jpg
Check out the massive transfer beams, I now know why this building took so long to rise out of the base.

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/510145.jpg
Notice behind the windscreen, cladding material has arrived.

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/510146.jpg
Assembeling rebar cages for the concrete sheer walls

i_am_hydrogen
February 16th, 2007, 01:32 AM
Taken today:

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2861/centralstationmy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

danthediscoman
February 16th, 2007, 01:33 AM
From this afternoon amongst the giants...

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5181/thegiantsomp2ne3.jpg

danthediscoman
February 16th, 2007, 01:40 AM
^^VERY WEIRD...no one posts anything for over a month on this thread and then we unknowingly post photo updates within a minute of each other!:nuts: What time did you take that photo iamhydrogen?...I might be in your photo amongst the giants.:lol:

i_am_hydrogen
February 16th, 2007, 02:01 AM
^^VERY WEIRD...no one posts anything for over a month on this thread and then we unknowingly post photo updates within a minute of each other!:nuts: What time did you take that photo iamhydrogen?...I might be in your photo amongst the giants.:lol:

lol, that is a strange coincidence. I took this one at about 8:45am this morning. How about you? Also, is that sculpture exhibit worth a visit?

danthediscoman
February 16th, 2007, 03:23 AM
lol, that is a strange coincidence. I took this one at about 8:45am this morning. How about you? Also, is that sculpture exhibit worth a visit?

Actually I took it at 4 this afternoon but the sun kinda looked the same, that's why I asked...but the Abakanowicz's sculptures are definitely one of my favorite art installments in Chicago. I have walked through them 3 times now and everytime it feels different. I thought they would be really creepy or bland but once you walk through them you get this incredible feeling just as the architecture makes us feel small in Chicago this is doing the same just with an artistic flair. Really great can't say enough about it and capturing some of the buildings on Michigan Ave between two sculptures is postcard worthy. I'd wait until the snow melts, snow removal is not a priority it seems.

wrabbit
February 17th, 2007, 01:46 AM
From this afternoon amongst the giants...

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5181/thegiantsomp2ne3.jpg

Great shot.

skyscraperman
February 28th, 2007, 04:41 PM
i noticed on skyscraperpage on chicago diagrams that one museum park was removed,it is still listed but its photo was taken out for some reason anybody know why?

Chitowner245
March 1st, 2007, 05:47 PM
Maybe they're talking about making it taller during construction lol.

ChicagoLover
March 3rd, 2007, 11:02 AM
i_am_hydrogen -- great shot of Central Station. I liked your shot most of all because it really gave me the overall sense of how that area is coming together. Living outside Chicago, I generally only get to see how new buildings look when photographed -- typically in relative isolation. I'm grateful for this opportunity to see how the Central Station towers interact. Any hope for some commercial /mixed use on Indiana, or is all of that reserved for Michigan?

Chitowner245
March 3rd, 2007, 05:35 PM
Indiana is pretty much a designated all res boulevard until 16th. However, with these rumored 80-story and 1000"+ buildings on roosevelt between indiana and michigan that plan could certainly change. There's a lot of vacancies on michigan ave, and there will be many more when all those new buildings (marquee, 1720, mich ave II, 1400) get completed. Don't forget the old courthouse building, Allure, and what may be developed on the NW corner of 14th and mich- a vacant lot as of now.

Chi649
March 8th, 2007, 09:26 PM
from 3-4

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6229/dsc07180resizedeg2.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9791/dsc07181resizedgo6.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/359/dsc07182resizedfd1.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/217/dsc07183resizedzv2.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8740/dsc07184resizeduc4.jpg

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4531/dsc07185resizedbb5.jpg

danthediscoman
March 8th, 2007, 10:50 PM
Today:

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3614/omphd8.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2232/ompglasslw9.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/963/ompglassiiut4.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3651/ompbackfo1.jpg

dvidler
March 9th, 2007, 07:27 PM
Will the back of this project be exposed concrete all the way up?

From the model it does not show that


Today:



http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3651/ompbackfo1.jpg

trvlr70
March 9th, 2007, 08:39 PM
I believe it will be covered by glass.

danthediscoman
March 9th, 2007, 10:13 PM
^Yeah I had to look at the model. But it still seems odd to have fake windows all the way up, especially when they will all appear dark at night it will be pretty obvious

geoff_diamond
March 10th, 2007, 07:36 PM
They'll just be typical spandrel panels. It's a common practice that nobody will think twice about when they see the finished product. At night, it will just read as solid.

Chi649
March 12th, 2007, 07:06 AM
3-11

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3660/dsc07322sj5.jpg

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/5990/dsc07323zk5.jpg

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/7966/dsc07324dv5.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8806/dsc07326lm7.jpg

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4498/dsc07327bx8.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1292/dsc07328ae0.jpg

i_am_hydrogen
March 17th, 2007, 11:47 PM
Taken today:

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5349/ompon8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4671/omp1oh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4411/omp2qd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/5296/omp3ih9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7177/omp4qu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

geoff_diamond
March 18th, 2007, 05:35 PM
There's actually some incredibly interesting detailing on the facade of this tower. It's quite surprising.

chicagogeorge
March 18th, 2007, 05:42 PM
beautiful. Thanks for the pics.

Chi649
March 19th, 2007, 04:35 AM
I'm really diggin the facade on this. Some people have expressed reservations about the two-tone glass but I think it will look great. We'll see though.

SNT1
March 19th, 2007, 08:45 AM
I'm surprised that this thing has some size already. woot woot.

prelude91
March 19th, 2007, 04:59 PM
i didnt realize this was so far along, i really love the facade on it too! :cheers:

Chicagotom
March 20th, 2007, 03:50 PM
They just poured the 20th floor