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tectis
January 8th, 2005, 07:36 AM
KTX


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tectis
January 9th, 2005, 01:08 AM
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Nephasto
January 9th, 2005, 04:53 AM
Can you post a map of the line and also a map of the lines under construction or in project, if there are any?
Nice fotos by the way! :)

babystan03
January 9th, 2005, 04:56 AM
How long does it take from Busan to Seoul?? 2 hours?? Will the KTX be extended to the Incheon Airport??

Nephasto
January 9th, 2005, 05:11 AM
How long does it take from Busan to Seoul?? 2 hours?? Will the KTX be extended to the Incheon Airport??

Also, what's the distance?

Cantonese
January 9th, 2005, 09:15 AM
Very nice!!! Do you have any more pictures?

Vertigo
January 9th, 2005, 03:35 PM
Got any more information about the new type of train (the red one)?

I know the first generation was built by Alstom and derived from the TGV (it also really looks like a TGV). What about those new ones, is that also an Alstom product?

mumbojumbo
January 9th, 2005, 06:27 PM
How long does it take from Busan to Seoul?? 2 hours?? Will the KTX be extended to the Incheon Airport??

Around 2 hours and 30 min. The speed railway is still u/c in some areas. As for the second question, yes (around 2007)

mumbojumbo
January 9th, 2005, 06:29 PM
Got any more information about the new type of train (the red one)?

I know the first generation was built by Alstom and derived from the TGV (it also really looks like a TGV). What about those new ones, is that also an Alstom product?

Korea high-speed train aces trial run
OSONG, S.K. - Korea has become the fifth country with proven high-speed train production technology, following France, Germany, Italy and Japan, as it has succeeded in a trial of a high-speed train, according to the Chosun Ilbo.
The train was designed and made only with domestic technology, and ran at speeds of up to 300 kilometers per hour.

The Korean Rail Road Research Institute and the train maker Rotem on Wednesday completed the trial of the G7 high-speed train, called the "next generation Korean-style high-speed train." The route was from Chonan to Daejon, and onboard were industry and academic figures and public officials. The train was composed of seven cars, four locomotives and three passenger cars.

By contrast, the high-speed rail service between Seoul and Busan, which will start in April, trains produced with technology transferred from the French train maker Alstom will be used, called KTX (Korean Train Express) trains.

But for the high-speed rail services opening later, the G7 trains will be used. These G7 trains, faster than the KTX trains, should be commercialized by 2007. The G7 trains will be used for service between Seoul and Jeolla province, which is expected to have fewer passengers during weekdays because the number of cars can be variously adjusted depending on the number of passengers. The number of the KTX cars is fixed at 20, regardless of the number of passengers.

12:10 p.m. Wednesday: The high-speed train departs from Osong, North Chungcheong province. With a bright gray exterior and red top, it looks sleek.

Even at the speed of 100 kilometers per hour, there is hardly any noise or vibration. Two or three minutes later, the speed is at 150 kph, and the train glides along as if floating on placid water. At 250 kph, there is a slight movement from side to side and a faint engine noise.

Then it's 280, 290, 295, 299 kph. Fifty or so passengers - including technicians from the Korean Railroad Research Institute and Rotem and officials from the Ministry of Transportation and the Korean National Railroad - watch the odometer as it climbs to 300 kph. At that moment, Korea became the fifth country in the world to achieve the feat with its own technology, following France, Germany, Italy and Japan. Ten minutes after departing from Osong, we passed Cheoan Asan. People in the car clapped and cheered.

Song Dal-ho, chief director at the research center, said, "The designed speed is 385 kilometers per hour but the actual speed will be about 350 due to the weight of the passengers. Next year, we will easily pass our final goal of 350 kilometers per hour." The test train, composed of seven cars, is powerful and lightweight and can run up to 440 km per hour, theoretically.

A slight noise and vibration could be felt at 300 kph per hour. However, the same sensation was felt with the KTX trains, with technology transferred from Alstom. The only thing surprising was the deafening sensation in the ears, somewhat like that when climbing in an airplane. "That is because the doors are not completely sealed - this is a little difficult to do with domestic techniques," said Song Jin, director of the central research lab at Rotem. However, all these factors will be improved by 2007, when the train is expected to be commercialized. By that time, KTX will be an "old model," and a true Korean high-speed railroad will take its place as the "new model."

Thursday marks the 104th anniversary of the first Korean railroad. We have made a high-speed train with our very own hands. The conventional trains such as the Saemaeul were designed by copying bits of foreign models.


^^
Domestic technology, will reach up to 350 KM/ph

mumbojumbo
January 9th, 2005, 06:30 PM
Also, what's the distance?

About 600 KM to Busan (from seoul) and about 500 KM to Gwangju (from seoul)

mumbojumbo
January 9th, 2005, 06:34 PM
From KTX website (http://ktx.korail.go.kr/)
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/28.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/25.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/27.jpg

http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/24.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/23.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/22.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/21.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/20.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/19.jpg

mumbojumbo
January 9th, 2005, 06:37 PM
More:
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/18.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/17.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/16.jpg
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http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/12.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/11.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/10.jpg

mumbojumbo
January 9th, 2005, 06:40 PM
More:
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/09.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/08.jpg
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/07.jpg
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mumbojumbo
January 9th, 2005, 06:42 PM
This is the best map I could post here: (the big one is in micro media)
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/eng/img/main_map.gif

Nephasto
January 9th, 2005, 11:56 PM
Busan - Seoul = 600 km in 2h 30m?! That's very good! An average of 240 km/h!

Wisarut
January 10th, 2005, 05:06 AM
Khun Babystan03,

Well, KTX won't be used for Incheon Airport Express though ... ROTEM will
produce the new rolling stocks for Incheon Airport Express/Transit;... Look at
the Korean Thread and you'll see

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=122055

If you wanna know more abotu Incheon Airport Express, please go here:
http://www.iiarc.com/

BTW, Lok at this rendintion and you'll see:
Airport Express:
http://www.iiarc.com/operation/images/train_bigimg1.jpg
Inside Airport Express
http://www.iiarc.com/operation/images/train_bigimg1_02.jpg
Airport Transit:
http://www.iiarc.com/operation/images/train_bigimg2.jpg
Inside Airport Transit
http://www.iiarc.com/operation/images/train_bigimg2_02.jpg

Route Map:
http://www.iiarc.com/operation/images/nosun.gif

sequoias
January 10th, 2005, 05:46 AM
From KTX website (http://ktx.korail.go.kr/)
http://ktx.korail.go.kr/DATA/ktx/gallery/23.jpg


Those trains freak me out, they look like birds with red eyes, if u look carefully. *shudders*

mumbojumbo
January 11th, 2005, 12:00 AM
Khun Babystan03,

Well, KTX won't be used for Incheon Airport Express though ... ROTEM will
produce the new rolling stocks for Incheon Airport Express/Transit;... Look at
the Korean Thread and you'll see

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=122055

If you wanna know more abotu Incheon Airport Express, please go here:
http://www.iiarc.com/

BTW, Lok at this rendintion and you'll see:
Airport Express:
http://www.iiarc.com/operation/images/train_bigimg1.jpg
Inside Airport Express
http://www.iiarc.com/operation/images/train_bigimg1_02.jpg
Airport Transit:
http://www.iiarc.com/operation/images/train_bigimg2.jpg
Inside Airport Transit
http://www.iiarc.com/operation/images/train_bigimg2_02.jpg

Route Map:
http://www.iiarc.com/operation/images/nosun.gif

Thanks for that.

ejd03
January 11th, 2005, 12:07 AM
Got any more information about the new type of train (the red one)?

I know the first generation was built by Alstom and derived from the TGV (it also really looks like a TGV). What about those new ones, is that also an Alstom product?

No it's made by Korea.. (red one) 97% of parts are made in Korea and others are from foreign countries..

Ellatur
January 11th, 2005, 12:20 AM
yay!@
ejd03 i haven't seen you in a while! :)

skynet126
January 11th, 2005, 07:00 AM
These infractructre cost S. Korea like 15 billion dollars, took like 8 years to built, and was designed by the French. Anybody known why it took so long to built these infrastructure. I thought that this kind of transportation was superb!!!

PredyGr
January 12th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Korea high-speed train aces trial run
...
The train was designed and made only with domestic technology, and ran at speeds of up to 300 kilometers per hour.

...

The train was composed of seven cars, four locomotives and three passenger cars.

...

The G7 trains will be used for service between Seoul and Jeolla province, which is expected to have fewer passengers during weekdays because the number of cars can be variously adjusted depending on the number of passengers. The number of the KTX cars is fixed at 20, regardless of the number of passengers.

...

Song Dal-ho, chief director at the research center, said, "The designed speed is 385 kilometers per hour but the actual speed will be about 350 due to the weight of the passengers. Next year, we will easily pass our final goal of 350 kilometers per hour." The test train, composed of seven cars, is powerful and lightweight and can run up to 440 km per hour, theoretically.
^^
Domestic technology, will reach up to 350 KM/ph



Could you please explain further what "domestic techology" is .

You mean 2 locomotives , 2 motor trailer cars, and 3 passenger cars. Am I wrong ? I have a Rotem's brochure which says that composition probably for the test train.

How is it possible to adjust the number of cars? It is articulated and the formation of the whole train is exactly the same as the KTX or TGV . If you have any idea about that I'll be happy to learn it.

Does anybody knows technical specification of this trainset or where I can find ? Like length, weight, seats , power(MW), acceleration, not starting (0-300), gear ratio.

Thanx in advance.

ejd03
January 13th, 2005, 07:03 AM
http://www.krri.re.kr/krri/news/2004/11/16/2169,22702,0,0,0.html

http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=9055

here is the more informations

zergcerebrates
January 13th, 2005, 09:41 PM
These infractructre cost S. Korea like 15 billion dollars, took like 8 years to built, and was designed by the French. Anybody known why it took so long to built these infrastructure. I thought that this kind of transportation was superb!!!


8 yrs isn't that long considering that they're building all new stations for the KTX and new railroads spanning top to bottom of S. Korea. This isn't a house building project a project of this size of course takes time. 15 billion on the other hand doesn't sound much, considering the scale of the project. HKairport alone cost $22 billion.

superchan7
January 14th, 2005, 12:37 AM
HK airport project had an abnormal cost for the sake of sheer grandeur and complicated geographical factors...I don't think that project can really be compared with anything.

tectis
May 19th, 2005, 03:45 PM
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