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javi_lopz86
January 14th, 2005, 01:14 AM
Hey wassup people I was just interested in the ghetto's of some of your cities just to change from glamour in downtown with all the fancy tall shiny buildings to the real world in the ghetto

sleepy
January 14th, 2005, 03:53 AM
I shall join in your request.

The Great Hizzy!
January 14th, 2005, 05:03 PM
Here's a picture of old Third Ward, near I-45:

http://www.houstontravelguide.com/museums/row.jpg

GetOnDaTrain
January 14th, 2005, 07:08 PM
^ Now it is called Project Row Houses. Artists who live in these shotgun row houses are revitalizing these with success in the Black community.
Pic from Soul of America
http://www.soulofamerica.com/images/photostx/houston/ProjectRowHouses.jpg

citykid09
January 14th, 2005, 09:42 PM
^Would you beleve that was in Houston!
I think it's third or fifth ward where there is a hugh Middle class and rich black community.

DuskTrooper
January 14th, 2005, 10:13 PM
No, the third ward is almost completely Ghetto.

JARdan
January 15th, 2005, 01:39 AM
That pic of El Paso looks like Iqaluit, Nunavut, lol.

lammius
January 15th, 2005, 01:40 AM
Those bungalows actually look pretty nice. Look at all that green grass! Is this in the city?

TexasBoi
January 15th, 2005, 02:17 AM
Those bungalows actually look pretty nice. Look at all that green grass! Is this in the city?

i think that is a recent picture after fixing it up.

LSyd
January 15th, 2005, 05:24 AM
Hey wassup people I was just interested in the ghetto's of some of your cities just to change from glamour in downtown with all the fancy tall shiny buildings to the real world in the ghetto

me too.

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WesternGulf
January 16th, 2005, 01:56 AM
No, the third ward is almost completely Ghetto.

Third Ward is completely ghetto? Actually the part east of 288 is very pedestrian oriented and differentiates itself from a lot of neighborhoods in the south.

DuskTrooper
January 16th, 2005, 02:37 AM
^^
Oh yeah, that part is pretty cool.

HoustonTexas
January 16th, 2005, 10:37 AM
Pretty much the corridor (aka "Dead Zone") from 610-to the beltway (Up I-45 N) is ghetto, and Greenspoint/Aldean/Westfield... Also, anything a mile and east of Downtown is "ghetto". Only because of the Low-income housing around the Industrial Parks.

UPWARDATLANTA
January 17th, 2005, 05:24 AM
Ghetto is a very broad term. It seems like you guy's think it is cool to have "ghettos", in your city. Ghetto's, still really only exist in the Northern "rustbelt" cities. Southern cities, really do not have true dense ghetto's. Yes, there are extremely poor run down area's. But it is not like Harlem.

javi_lopz86
January 17th, 2005, 07:15 AM
Ghetto is a very broad term. It seems like you guy's think it is cool to have "ghettos", in your city. Ghetto's, still really only exist in the Northern "rustbelt" cities. Southern cities, really do not have true dense ghetto's. Yes, there are extremely poor run down area's. But it is not like Harlem.
WHat are "rustbelt" cities?? oh and post some harlem pics dude! lets have a lil competition in seeing who has the worst ghetto. lol jk! :jk:

UPWARDATLANTA
January 17th, 2005, 03:16 PM
Ghetto
The name ghetto refers to an area where people from a given ethnic background or united in a given culture or religion live as a group, voluntarily or involuntarily, in milder or stricter seclusion. The word historically referred to restricted housing zones for Jews; however, it now commonly labels any poverty-stricken urban area.

The first ghettos appeared in Germany, Spain and Portugal, in the 13th century, but some authors use the same word to indicate the destination towns to which the Roman Empire deported Jews from the first to the fourth centuries CE.

The term ghetto comes from Venice's Ghetto in the 14th century. Before the designation of this part of the city for the Jews it was an iron foundry (getto), hence the name. Other etymologies suggested for the word include the Italian borghetto for "small neighborhood" or the Hebrew word get, literally a "bill of divorce." From the example of the Venice Ghetto the name then transferred to Jewish neighborhoods. In Castile, they were called Juder�/em> and in Majorca, call. It is worth noticing that the gated Jewish quarter in Venice (the Ghetto), was an affluent part of the town inhabited by merchants and moneylenders. Non-Jews were not allowed to live in this ghetto, and the gates were locked at night.

In 1555 Pope Paul IV created the Roman Ghetto and issued a canon (a papal law) to force Jews to live in a specified area. This was the last ghetto to be abolished in Western Europe, in 1883. Pope Pius V recommended that all the bordering states should set up ghettos, and at the beginning of the 17th century all the main towns had one (with the only exceptions in Italy, being Livorno and Pisa).

In medieval Central Europe ghettos existed in Prague, Frankfurt am Main, Mainz and elsewhere. There were never ghettos in Poland nor Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.


Table of contents
1 Living in a Jewish ghetto
2 African-American ghettos in the USA
3 See also




Living in a Jewish ghetto
The character of ghettos has varied through times. In some cases, the ghetto was a Jewish quarter with a relatively affluent population (for instance the Jewish ghetto in Venice). In other cases, ghettos have connoted impoverishment.

Since Jews couldn't acquire land outside the ghetto, during periods of population growth, ghettos had narrow streets and tall, crowded houses. Residents had their own justice system. Around the ghetto stood walls that during pogroms were closed from the inside during Easter Week and from the outside during Christmas or Pesach. Often ghetto residents had to have a pass to go outside of the bounds of the ghetto.

Ghettos were progressively abolished, and their walls demolished, in the 19th century, following the ideals of the French Revolution, but the Nazis re-instituted them before and during World War II in Eastern Europe. Ironically, there had never been ghettos parts of Eastern Europe before the Nazis set them up there.

During World War II ghettos served as repositories in a forced concentration process of the Jewish population, easing the control of that population by the Nazis. The inhabitants of the ghettos of Eastern Europe were among the first to be deported to the extermination camps during the Holocaust. The authorities deported Jews from everywhere in Europe to the ghettos of the East, or directly to the extermination camps.

Famous ghettos include:

Roman Ghetto
Venice Ghetto
Warsaw Ghetto
Theresienstadt Ghetto

African-American ghettos in the USA
In the United States, between the abolition of slavery and the passing of the civil rights laws of the 1960s, discriminatory mores (sometimes codified in law) often forced urban African Americans to live in specific neighborhoods, which also became known as "ghettos". Because African-Americans of all economic levels had to live in these neighborhoods, such as Bronzeville in Chicago and Harlem in New York City, they often became known as vibrant cultural centers. Paradoxically, when the 1960s civil rights laws allowed wealthier African Americans to emigrate to formerly all-white areas, the economic bases of many ghettos collapsed, leaving them zones of below-average wealth, poorly-maintained housing, and high crime. By the 1970s, the Robert Taylors homes, located in Chicago's Bronzeville, was home to the poorest and third-poorest census tracts in the United States.

The formation of the ghetto and the black underclass forms one of most controversial issues in sociology.

Charles Murray argues in Losing Ground that Great Society liberalism created the hopeless poor. Murray claims that the eligibility of single women for welfare encouraged women to have babies out of wedlock, and that welfare discouraged all from working. This theory has not met with wide acceptance. Its opponents point out that in the 1970s, when the real amounts of welfare checks decreased, out-of-wedlock births increased. Murray also missed the fact that although the percentage of blacks born out of wedlock increased in the 60s and 70s, the percentage of black women having babies out of wedlock decreased.

William Julius Wilson argues in The Truly Disadvantaged that easy access to welfare had little effect on women's decisions on childbearing. Wilson instead claims that the flight of low-skilled manufacturing jobs to the suburbs and the South left blacks economically isolated in the ghetto – the "spatial mismatch". Wilson explains the high percentage of out-of-wedlock births as due to the lack of marriageable – i.e. employed - men for mothers to marry.

Roger Waldinger offers a third, and less well known, theory of ghetto formation: detailing a mismatch between the wages which blacks desire and the wages which low-skilled jobs actually pay. The argument mainly appears in Waldinger’s book, adapted from his Harvard PhD thesis, Still the Promised City?

In looking at New York City, Waldinger points out that new immigrants – Koreans, Pakistanis, Dominicans, etc – often do better than American-born blacks. Waldinger also notices that southern-born and Caribbean-born blacks have higher incomes than northern-born blacks. Waldinger argues that immigrant groups benefit by establishing nepotistic niches for themselves, and use niches for mutual help, something blacks have not been able to do. Waldinger also says that even though hotels and restaurants may offer very low wages, they are still outclass wages in Mexico, rural China, or Africa; thus, immigrants readily accept them. In contrast, unskilled northern-born blacks, who hope to do something better than their parents, disdain these jobs, in hope of something better, and may often wind up working outside the legitimate economy altogether.


See also
gay ghetto
lazaretto, leprosarium


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vvcc
May 4th, 2005, 08:47 AM
If the people in Houston want to see some real ghettos they should go to D.C. and Baltimore. That's whats up for real!!

pwright1
May 4th, 2005, 09:10 AM
Ghetto is a very broad term. It seems like you guy's think it is cool to have "ghettos", in your city. Ghetto's, still really only exist in the Northern "rustbelt" cities. Southern cities, really do not have true dense ghetto's. Yes, there are extremely poor run down area's. But it is not like Harlem.

Harlem is actually quite nice. I wouldn't mind living there.

TexasBoi
May 4th, 2005, 10:29 AM
If the people in Houston want to see some real ghettos they should go to D.C. and Baltimore. That's whats up for real!!

do you have a point and why did you bring this thread back up just to say this??

vvcc
May 9th, 2005, 04:57 AM
do you have a point and why did you bring this thread back up just to say this??
My point is that Houston ain't no real crime city like most of you people from Houston think it is.Houston has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. I also brought it back up because I felt like it you young bamma.Holla.

atlrvr
May 9th, 2005, 05:09 AM
^ Can he be banned for saying "young bamma. Holla." ????? Please.

TexasBoi
May 9th, 2005, 06:43 AM
My point is that Houston ain't no real crime city like most of you people from Houston think it is.Houston has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. I also brought it back up because I felt like it you young bamma.Holla.

Please. I dont fuckin need to go to DC or BMore to see whats fuckin real. Shit happens in every fuckin hood yours isnt different from any other major city so quit trying to tell other people in here how "real" your city is. Nobody from fuckin Houston claimed that shit in the first place. probably never even stepped foot in Houston or Dallas.

Young Bamma??? what is this suppose to do? make me feel bad :hahaha:

Soulbrotha
May 9th, 2005, 06:57 AM
Houston has one of the lowest crime rates in the country.

And thats a bad thing?

Soulbrotha
May 9th, 2005, 07:03 AM
Houston may have a low crime rate, but the real sad fact comes when you look at Texas as a whole. "Texas, the state with the most people behind bars, reported that its prison population climbed from 167,532 inmates in 2003 to 169,110 inmates in 2004, an increase of 0.9 percent."
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3151865
Pretty sad

texasboy
May 9th, 2005, 01:10 PM
Houston may have a low crime rate, but the real sad fact comes when you look at Texas as a whole. "Texas, the state with the most people behind bars, reported that its prison population climbed from 167,532 inmates in 2003 to 169,110 inmates in 2004, an increase of 0.9 percent."
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3151865
Pretty sad

a lot aren't from texas. plus the state has a population of over 20 million.

Soulbrotha
May 9th, 2005, 06:59 PM
have a look at this website under "in memoriam"...whats wrong with this picture?
http://www.todesstrafe-usa.de/death_penalty/voices_from_inside.htm

Bobdreamz
May 9th, 2005, 07:41 PM
Upward Atlanta....Harlem a ghetto???
try buying a loft or co-op there and then tell me it is a ghetto!

vvcc
May 9th, 2005, 08:09 PM
Please. I dont fuckin need to go to DC or BMore to see whats fuckin real. Shit happens in every fuckin hood yours isnt different from any other major city so quit trying to tell other people in here how "real" your city is. Nobody from fuckin Houston claimed that shit in the first place. probably never even stepped foot in Houston or Dallas.

Young Bamma??? what is this suppose to do? make me feel bad :hahaha:
Your a funny little punk!! And yes I have stepped foot in Houston and Dallas. My dad was born and raised in Houston on Shady Dr. in the Trinity Gardens/5th Ward area fool. Used to go there a lot back in the late 80's and early 90's to visit my grandmama and all my other relatives. My grandmama actually lived across the street from a dope house. The word bamma is a term we use in D.C. to insult someone. As far as Houston is concerned I know what I'm talking about youngin. But on the real I ackowledge that Houston has bad areas but all I'm saying is there are places out there that are far worser. Holla.

TexasBoi
May 9th, 2005, 10:27 PM
so now we result to name calling?Damn whats next lol.....Like i said nobody needs to fuckin go to DC to see whats real. we can see that shit down here because the same shit happens. I know what the word Bamma means I have family up in the DC area as well. You calling me that does not phase me.

chris dendy
May 10th, 2005, 06:06 AM
The ghettos in new orleans are sure as hell "real." ANd that's not something we're particularly proud of, though it was the reason we were the "rap capital" of the late 90s with cash money and no limit-

SkyHigh529
May 11th, 2005, 03:32 AM
Your a funny little punk!! And yes I have stepped foot in Houston and Dallas. My dad was born and raised in Houston on Shady Dr. in the Trinity Gardens/5th Ward area fool. Used to go there a lot back in the late 80's and early 90's to visit my grandmama and all my other relatives. My grandmama actually lived across the street from a dope house. The word bamma is a term we use in D.C. to insult someone. As far as Houston is concerned I know what I'm talking about youngin. But on the real I ackowledge that Houston has bad areas but all I'm saying is there are places out there that are far worser. Holla.
Word up dawg. Holla G! Keep it real, yo!

The Great Hizzy!
May 11th, 2005, 06:04 PM
Are we making a distinction between ghetto and run-down? I don't think the two necessarily mean the same thing. You can have some run-down areas that aren't very high crime areas and then have areas that have decent to even good per capita incomes that have high crime rates and unacceptable amounts of litter/graffiti in specific parts of the neighborhood. The areas south of the 610 Loop on MLK would come across as the latter (ghetto) while areas like First Ward come to mind when I think of the former (run-down).

There are some decent to nice and well-kept neighborhoods on MLK south of Bellfort but there are also some issues with crime as well as a couple of retail centers that are infested with litter.

It really is an odd situation. The same thing holds true in some of South Florida's neighborhoods: some places have high crime but look like typical middle class areas while some others are pretty run-down but don't really have much in the way of a large, criminal element to them.

Same with southern Dallas.

BigDan35
May 11th, 2005, 06:42 PM
Are we making a distinction between ghetto and run-down? I don't think the two necessarily mean the same thing. You can have some run-down areas that aren't very high crime areas and then have areas that have decent to even good per capita incomes that have high crime rates and unacceptable amounts of litter/graffiti in specific parts of the neighborhood.

This is a great example of Compton, in South Los Angeles. Compton is the "gang capital" of Los Angeles and has an extremely high crime rate...but it doesn't look that bad in some areas. I mean I admit, some areas in Compton do look really bad and there is tons of graffiti everywhere (due to the large number of gangs) but other areas/neighborhoods in Compton don't look like they would belong to a city that has a murder rate of more than 10 times the national average.

chayves4u
May 11th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Word up dawg. Holla G! Keep it real, yo!

You far worser than fuckin he is fo real. =D

SkyHigh529
May 12th, 2005, 03:13 AM
^true dat dawg, i'm just keepin it real fo my hommies in the suburbs yo...

sleepy
May 12th, 2005, 03:21 AM
Are we making a distinction between ghetto and run-down? I don't think the two necessarily mean the same thing. You can have some run-down areas that aren't very high crime areas and then have areas that have decent to even good per capita incomes that have high crime rates and unacceptable amounts of litter/graffiti in specific parts of the neighborhood. The areas south of the 610 Loop on MLK would come across as the latter (ghetto) while areas like First Ward come to mind when I think of the former (run-down).

There are some decent to nice and well-kept neighborhoods on MLK south of Bellfort but there are also some issues with crime as well as a couple of retail centers that are infested with litter.

It really is an odd situation. The same thing holds true in some of South Florida's neighborhoods: some places have high crime but look like typical middle class areas while some others are pretty run-down but don't really have much in the way of a large, criminal element to them.

Same with southern Dallas.

I think that's a good and accurate observation.