Which two of these cities win in:
Density, Urbanity, Crime, Education, Skyline, Nightlife, Day life, Healthcare, Future, Etc.

Baltimore
VS Boston

This does not include Metro.

Well, this is one Baltimorean that will have to give credit where it is due.

Boston will have to get the nod in almost every area except healthcare, due to the presence of Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, arguably the best medical institution on the planet. Yes, some will argue that there are more quality hospitals in Boston than in Baltimore, but Hopkins is so large that it's the equivalent of several specialty centers in one.

Baltimore would also get the edge in climate and transportation, but in skyline, education, nitelife, crime, and historical significance the edge has to go to the Hub City.

My vote is for Boston.

I love Boston!!! It is and will always be may no 1 pick. The only one who comes near to it is Seattle!!!

Boston wins in every catagory expect healthcare. Im not sure how Boston schools are but I'll give them the nod.

Baltimore is a very nice city but it often gets compared to DC, Boston and New York due to its location. Of course Baltimore is not as nice as these cities. However, its much nicer than towns like Atlanta,Charlotte, Dallas and Houston and it is in the same league as Philly.

I love Baltimore but Boston IS the winning city. :( And there is a BIG reason.
If Baltimore would have been directly on the oceanfront like cities like Boston, New York City, and SEATTLE, San Francisco, LA, and the like, then it would have been a much bigger city and more important to our Nation's history, perhaps. Let's face it, direct access to a city from the ocean, back when this Country was becoming a Country, was more advantagous than coming up through the Chesapeake Bay. AND, as we all know, Philly and DC are SO close to Baltimore.

So, Boston wins this hands down. That's my opinion. :D

LA isn't on the ocean.

Boston is still a great city!!!!!

Both cities are very dense but Boston has more height.

Even though I'm partial to Baltimore because I've lived there, I'll have to admit that Boston is a more important/better city in most things, possibly with the exceptions of weather and proximity to other cities. A lot of the qualities I like about Baltimore (seafood, history, nightlife) can also be found in Boston.

So, it's Boston :)

LA isn't on the ocean.

Boston is still a great city!!!!!

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Come on man. :runaway: :)

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Come on man. :runaway: :)

I meant downtown LA..............
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Baltimore its really booming

Baltimore its really booming
Yeah, the residential boom is BIG now. Plus, because of that, other great retail and some office development has started to boom. PLUS, let's not forget the bioparks! :D I wonder, though, how long this current boom will last before things taper off again. :? :D

Baltimor is nice, but Boston is in a league of its own...

Next round is the final round!

There's no doubt that quantitatively Boston is the superior city, but I would much rather call Baltimore my home. I think B'more has everything I could ever want in an urban city without the exhorbitant prices. Baltimore is one of the best-kept secrets in the country. And I think Baltimore has more soul and racial diversity than Boston.

There's no doubt that quantitatively Boston is the superior city, but I would much rather call Baltimore my home. I think B'more has everything I could ever want in an urban city without the exhorbitant prices. Baltimore is one of the best-kept secrets in the country. And I think Baltimore has more soul and racial diversity than Boston.


I couldn't have said it better myself, JivecitySTL!!!! "Boston is the superior city, but I would much rather call Baltimore my home." You hit the nail on the head!!!!!!! :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Boston is a good city. The fact that so many colleges and universities are located in it certainly help. I think Boston is a wealthier city than Baltimore with a more wealthy tax base. Downtown Boston trumps dtown Baltimore. Boston's T trumps Baltimore's Metro and LTR systems. Not sure about how Boston's public schools are. The only thing I know about Boston's public schools is that Boston Latin School is the oldest public high school in the country and Baltimore City College is America's 3rd oldest high school.

With that said, Boston is certainly the better city, but I wouldnt live there.

JivecitySTL often hits the nail right on the head and I agree with his assessment of Baltimore/Boston. The fact that he lives in St. Louis proves he knows a good city when he sees one!

Baltimore has better in weather and as for public schools (i.e. not college, university, etc) it is probably better. Health is probably better. Other than that, Boston beat out almost everything else. Boston, like Baltimore, is going through a huge residential boom and also are creating multiple new parks and maybe a new beach. The T is better than the Metro but Boston's cost of living is set way too high. Boston also have a better history and a bigger skyline. I go with Boston but Baltimore is not so far behind.

And I think Baltimore has more soul and racial diversity than Boston.





Baltimore:

White 205982 31.63%
Black or African American 418951 64.34%
American Indian and Alaska Native 2097 0.32%
Asian 9985 1.53%
Asian indian 2036 0.31%
Chinese 2404 0.37%
Filipino 1349 0.21%
Japanese 298 0.05%
Korean 1826 0.28%
Vietnamese 709 0.11%
Other Asian 1363 0.21%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 222 0.03%
Native Hawaiian 51 0.01%
Guamanian or Chamorro 42 0.01%
Samoan 44 0.01%
Other Pacific Islander 85 0.01%
Some other race 4363 0.67


Hispanic or Latino and race

Hispanic or Latino(of any race) 11061 1.7%
Mexican 2999 0.46%
Puerto Rican 2207 0.34%
Cuban 508 0.08%
Other Hispanic or Latino 5347 0.82%
Not Hispanic or Latino 640093 98.3%
White alone 201566 30.96



Boston:

White 320944 54.48%
Black or African American 149202 25.33%
American Indian and Alaska Native 2365 0.4%
Asian 44284 7.52%
Asian indian 4442 0.75%
Chinese 19638 3.33%
Filipino 1405 0.24%
Japanese 2384 0.4%
Korean 2564 0.44%
Vietnamese 10818 1.84%
Other Asian 3033 0.51%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 366 0.06%
Native Hawaiian 84 0.01%
Guamanian or Chamorro 44 0.01%
Samoan 77 0.01%
Other Pacific Islander 161 0.03%
Some other race 46102 7.83%
Two or more races 25878 4.39%

Hispanic or Latino and race

Hispanic or Latino(of any race) 85089 14.44%
Mexican 4126 0.7%
Puerto Rican 27442 4.66%
Cuban 2221 0.38%
Other Hispanic or Latino 51300 8.71%
Not Hispanic or Latino 504052 85.56%
White alone 291561 49.49%

Yeah, I wouldn't go so far as to say Baltimore is more diverse than Boston, although in places it can appear so. Baltimore's affluent neighborhoods are highly diverse, but much of the city is still segregated and neighborhoods tend to be either white or black. Much of the surrounding areas in Baltimore Country are very diverse though. Towson has a HUGE Korean population and a fiarly large Eastern European population as well. Catonsville is home to many Chinese and Middle Easterns, and East Baltimore County around Essex and Dundalk still have pockets of very Greek neighborhoods.

Also, those numbers might not tell the whole story. It's not fair to divide up the Asians, but leave all the whites and all the blacks clumped together. Baltimore's white population is very diverse - Irish, German, Greek, Italian, Polish, Russian, Lithuanian... I think those are the largest. Baltimore's black population comes from quite a few places as well. There are many recent African immigrants, many from Cote D'voire, Kenya, Rwanda to name a few. Many people of Caribbean descent also call Baltimore home. Baltimore Carnival was this past weekend actually, and that typically draws tens of thousands of people.

But I don't know, Boston is still probably more diverse. I don't know Boston is the same detail that I know Bmore.

You'd be surprised how many Spanish, and mixed peeps call themselves black and white.

There are parts of Bmore that don't speak English at all.
Drive down Broadway, and Spanish is the 1st language.

However, based on the numbers, Boston has won this thing.

Now if you include the metro area, Bmore wins. Much more going on around Bmore than around Boston. JMO

It's true. North Fells Point is more often referred to as Spanishtown these days. They sure picked a nice area to settle in.

Pockets of Baltimore County are as diverse as it gets. My mom lives near the Drumcastle apartments complex. Sometimes when I'm passing by there you'll see all kinds of people waiting at the bus stop - Guatemalan, Salvadoreno, Mexican, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, Pakistani, Russian, Ukrainian, Lithuanian.... so many kinds of people. It shows in the neighborhood too. Towson, MD is the highest concentration of Asian cuisine restaurants in the country. There are probably more dining choices in downtown Towson than at any place of a similar size in Baltimore, except maybe Mt. Vernon.

Wow. Towson. I've been there MANY MANY MANY times and have never noticed not even one asian restaurant. I had no idea towson was that diverse. I usually only go to towson either to visit towson commons or to towson town center. i'm still in shock!!!

Yeah, I'm not kidding. Take a look around next time you're up there. Every other address is a sushi bar or chinese place. Allegheny Ave. has a plethora of choices from Indonesian to Nepalese to Turkish to Italian.... The famous Cafe Troia (where I used to wait tables) is underneath the Penthouse. Lots to eat in Towson. And consequently, it's one of the best smelling places around. Moxley's is some of the best ice cream you'll ever have too...damn, I could go on and on. Lot to eat. Let's just leave it at that.

.....I decided I wasn't finished talking about Towson's eateries yet. I ended my post prematurely and I am regretting it dearly. There's Casa Mia's on York which serves Greek and Italian food - it's good. There's Paolo's on Chesapeake which serves Italian - it's good. There's Philly's on Washington which serves cheesesteaks - it's good. There's The Orient on York serving Chinese - it's good. There's a Greene Turtle on York - always good. Not to mention all the countless bars and delis. I can't wait to go back. Downtown Towson only has a market for three things - restaurants, bars, and psychics. Everything else can be found in Towson Town Center. By the way, is that still the biggest mall on the East Coast, or did one pass it?

Also, speaking of Towson, ever since I've been coming back to Bmore these past few years, I've heard Baltimoreans refer to Towson as Uptown. Has anyone else encountered that?

PeterSmith, you are making me hungry! Though it isn't in Towson, but just across the line in Baltimore, I love to go to the Belvedere Market. You can pick up all kinds of goodies and have lunch with a nice neighborhood atmosphere. There are so many good restaurants in Baltimore. And now I just thought of all the Jewish deli's down on corn beef row!

Wow. Towson. I've been there MANY MANY MANY times and have never noticed not even one asian restaurant. I had no idea towson was that diverse. I usually only go to towson either to visit towson commons or to towson town center. i'm still in shock!!!

There was a recent article in some national magazine wondering how a place relatively small like downtown Towson came to have the largest concentration of sushi in the western hemisphere. The latest is a rotating sushi bar where you grab things as they go by.

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Also, speaking of Towson, ever since I've been coming back to Bmore these past few years, I've heard Baltimoreans refer to Towson as Uptown. Has anyone else encountered that?


I look at Towson, Glen Burnie, Owings Mill, Woodlawn, etc. as cities that ring around a larger city core. Much like Rockville, Silver Spring and Bethesda ring DC.

And since Bmore and DC are so close, the cities that ring around them make the two metros practically touch. Maryland is a very unique, and weird (good thing) It seems like the entire state is metro.

Very weird for me coming from PA.

Yeah, that is one thing that makes Maryland very unique, I think. Marylanders can typically be divided up into two groups - metroers and non-metroers. There's really no in-between. Although that line is starting to fade as sprawl increases. But when you have a city with a metro of 8 million in a state of only 5 million, it makes for an interesting situation.

I look at Towson, Glen Burnie, Owings Mill, Woodlawn, etc. as cities that ring around a larger city core. Much like Rockville, Silver Spring and Bethesda ring DC.

And since Bmore and DC are so close, the cities that ring around them make the two metros practically touch. Maryland is a very unique, and weird (good thing) It seems like the entire state is metro.

Very weird for me coming from PA.

Most definitely! Central Maryland is one big metro area. Only western Maryland and the eastern shore are left out.

Does anyone know what the population of central Maryland is compared to the other areas? I would guess that central Maryland comprises maybe 75% of the entire state's population, but that's just my guess.

Montgomery County-918,881
Prince George's County-838,716
Howard County-264,265
Anne Arundel County-506,620
Baltimore County-777,184
Baltimore City-628,670
Harford County-232,175
Carroll County-163,207
Frederick County-213,662
Charles County-133,049
Calvert County-84,110
St. Mary's County-92,754
Central Maryland/Metro Areas of Maryland = 4,853,293
Maryland = 5,508,909
655,616 make up the rest of Maryland

I don't even think there is competition here.

Boston is better by far.