Met 3 [Archive] - SkyscraperCity

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 22nd, 2005, 03:28 AM

NIce picture Trick, Hey CHUCK you got something against my Atlanta Falcons man?? :jk: lol. Let's hope the best win and lets hope this Met building goes up really fast.
YES BHK :) , (I hope the BEST WINS, I like Atlanta Too, But ITS the AMERICAN EAGLE over the Southern Falcon, lol. :jk: :cheers:
TRUE about MET 3 :) , ITS a GO in JUNE, 2005 :) for GROUNDBREAKING, BUT it will BE COMPLETED as FLORIDA's NEXT TALLEST :) in 2009 !!! :cheers:
, Remember its a TALL TOWER that takes Time to finish, at least 3 and a Half YEARS, ITS 72 FLOORS at 800 FEET :) , Which Hopefully will TOP 812 FEET :) with the Huge Design on TOP, Parking GARAGE and a HUGE Whole FOODS Market at Ground LEVEL

JR79

January 28th, 2005, 05:12 PM

Chuck, do you know which construction company is going to be building Met 3? (hopefully Bovis) Just curious!

And Nimbyhater, you could stay here in Miami and go to FIU, just like I did. I was finishing my CM degree while the four seasons was going up, and there was no way I was going to miss the newest tallest building in Miami (at the time) going up. Besides it's much cheaper to stay in town than to go somehere else and freeze your *** off.

danica

January 28th, 2005, 05:33 PM

Since i don't know how to post pic, here is a link to the Herald Ad for Met 3 (http://newspaperads.miami.com/RopAds.aspx?adv=206613)

south florida dave

January 28th, 2005, 07:42 PM

here it is, danica...

http://img193.exs.cx/img193/4954/met31lf.jpg

streetscapeer

January 28th, 2005, 08:43 PM

OMG...That building in the ad is HOTT SHit...Did they change the design that drastically for met 3 or is that just rendition just for show?..I'm confused

Who else agrees that this building would be like THe HAWTEST thing in Downtown Miami could offer. And it's the epitomy of Art Deco. Our Grandest Tower, An Art Deco Masterpeice!!

streetscapeer

January 28th, 2005, 09:58 PM

http://www.netrox.net/~erickahl/met3.jpg

mike18

January 29th, 2005, 12:02 AM

MIAballinboi

January 29th, 2005, 12:21 AM

great great,

mike thats cuz skyscrapers.com is wrong they got that info from a herald article that said met2 was 750 but i guess do the change of plans, met 3 will be the 800+ footer, and met1 and met2 will be like the 450 footers or 500 feet,

so we are getting a tallest :cheers:

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 12:31 AM

can anyone explain why at www.skyscrapers.com they have met 2 at over 700 feet? is it a typo, or is that actually me t3, if it is then it is not the tallest! hopefully they increased the size of both.
Hello MIKE :) , MET 2 WAS NEVER Mention by the MET SALES SITE by being EVEN NEAR 700 Feet, Its ONLY a 48 STORY TOWER, IT WAS ALWAYS MET 3 :) as THE TALLEST TOWER IN FLORIDA !!!, :cheers:
No one at that time wanted to listen to the Man that was at the SALES CENTER almost every week, THAT's Me :) , lol. MET 3 WAS always supposed to be 72 OR MORE Storys, At OVER 800 FEET, and NOW I can say its GOING to be ALMOST 850 FEET, MARK MY WORD, IT will be the TALLEST RESIDENTIAL TOWER SOUTH OF MANHATTEN< and Thats the HONEST TO GOD, Truth !!!, GO CRANES !!! :cheers:

MIAballinboi

January 29th, 2005, 01:15 AM

great chuck now its 74 stories with a nice crown,

its cool how they describe it in the ad like its a girl lool, well thats good, well need a big manly tower to join it lool

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 01:50 AM

great chuck now its 74 stories with a nice crown,

its cool how they describe it in the ad like its a girl lool, well thats good, well need a big manly tower to join it lool
LOL MIAballinboi :) , I like the GIRL ad :cheers: , too and I believe There will be a MANLY Tower in the Future , too, at 900 FEET :) Some Year in the NEAR FUTURE, Lets say by 2015 :) , THE NEXT SUPERBOWL in MAMI :) , And only a FEW CITY BLOCKS from MET 3 :) , It HAS to be in that CENTER AREA because of the F.A.A. :bash: REMEMBER there's NO F.A.A. :bash: TOWER LIMITS in the AREA SOUTH of 5th STREET and NORTH of the MIAMI RIVER in DOWNTOWN MIAMI :) , There's NO RUNWAY APPROACH in that AREA, THANK GOD !!! :cheers:

BHK25

January 29th, 2005, 02:03 AM

I'm really starting to like that Met 3 Looks soo tall. 850 feet! that's almost 100 feet taller than Wachovia right? It's really gonna stand out in the skyline.
:cheers: :cheers:

mike18

January 29th, 2005, 02:11 AM

thank god, and that is the most beautiful tower ive ever seen !!!

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 02:23 AM

I'm really starting to like that Met 3 Looks soo tall. 850 feet! that's almost 100 feet taller than Wachovia right? It's really gonna stand out in the skyline.
:cheers: :cheers:
REMEMBER BHK :) , MIKE :) , MIAballinboi :) , and ANYONE else :) Here in the MIAMI-METRO , SAVE THAT IMPORTANT MET 3, HUGE CONDO TOWER PULL OUT in the MIAMI HERALD , TODAY ONLY, Friday, January the 28th , 2005, A DAY that will live INFINITY, lol. and HANG IT ON YOUR Bedroom WALL, and Watch it grow in LESS than 5 YEARS !!!, A celebration here in the MAGIC CITY , JANUARY 1, 2010, MIAMI SHINES to the WORLD !!! :cheers:

streetscapeer

January 29th, 2005, 02:28 AM

so this is a new design, right? So Beautiful!!

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 02:47 AM

so this is a new design, right? So Beautiful!!
STREET :) , As it says in the PULL OUT, " SHES REALLY STACKED !!! ". :cheers: , Shes a DOWNTOWN GIRL :) , lol, She Eats ONLY :) Whole Foods, Speaking of the MARKET on the Ground Floor with 45, 000 Square Feet of Grocery Shopping, AND AT 74 STORIES :) , WELL OVER 840 FEET :) TALL, " SHE's THE TALLEST BABE South of NEW YORK CITY :) , WOW, GO CRANES !!! :cheers:
ALSO STREET :) , THE CORAL GABLES BASED Nichols, Brosch, Wurst, Wolf, and Associates HAS DESIGNED the MET 3 CONDO TOWER. :cheers:

MIAballinboi

January 29th, 2005, 03:03 AM

great chuck!, well i didnt get 2days paper but SUNDAY come, ooo it should be in there also, full page,

:cheers:

check the sales center they might have some posters or better renderngs!

Dale

January 29th, 2005, 03:49 AM

Hello MIKE :) , MET 2 WAS NEVER Mention by the MET SALES SITE by being EVEN NEAR 700 Feet, Its ONLY a 48 STORY TOWER, IT WAS ALWAYS MET 3 :) as THE TALLEST TOWER IN FLORIDA !!!, :cheers:
No one at that time wanted to listen to the Man that was at the SALES CENTER almost every week, THAT's Me :) , lol. MET 3 WAS always supposed to be 72 OR MORE Storys, At OVER 800 FEET, and NOW I can say its GOING to be ALMOST 850 FEET, MARK MY WORD, IT will be the TALLEST RESIDENTIAL TOWER SOUTH OF MANHATTEN< and Thats the HONEST TO GOD, Truth !!!, GO CRANES !!! :cheers:

Chuck -

I always believed you.

*Knowing that Dale always believed him, Chuck decided to bring Dale back from the dead* :)

MIAballinboi

January 29th, 2005, 03:56 AM

welcome back dale,

yea i always believe good ol chuck also

Dale

January 29th, 2005, 03:58 AM

^^

Good to be back. And what timing, with Met 3 ! This isn't even a rumor ! :)

MIAballinboi

January 29th, 2005, 04:08 AM

great, u live in orlando? wow thats cool, ur so involved with the miami stuff, thats great, ur one of us loool,

yup cant wait til this becomes reality met 3!!!!

also wasnt opus 2 around 70 stories by a rendering someone posted a while back, the best case is to have a competition for tallest like in toronto, and they both race to the top,

i still say chucks right there will be a next 900 foot tower, i can feel it comin!

Dale

January 29th, 2005, 04:16 AM

Can I be an honorary Miamian, por favor ? :)

And yes, I believe we counted something in the range of 68-70 stories for Opus 2.

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 05:56 AM

Can I be an honorary Miamian, por favor ? :)

And yes, I believe we counted something in the range of 68-70 stories for Opus 2.
DALE :) , DALE :) , Welcome BACK BRO :) , We've missed ya :) , PLease Spill the Beans on OPUS, I got to KNOW, is it a GO !, and I really think they should also give Uptown--Midtown one more chance, and give him a 2 - month Suspension . BUT anyway, Welcome back. :cheers: ALSO, www.interest.com INTEREST RATES HOLD at LOW levels at 5.46%

BHK25

January 29th, 2005, 05:59 AM

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 06:06 AM

Opus 2? I kinda have bad memory, If someone could post any renderings. Is there a chance this one will be compiting with Met 3 for the tallest title? Anyway.Too bad I won't be around to see all those new towers rise. But I'll be close enough to come to Miami at least 3 or 4 times a year, plus of course I have the best forum to keep me informed.
BHK :) , PLease LETS Get OPUS 1 Started FIRST :) , lol. Then we'll talk about OPUS 2, PLease I need INFO on Opus 1 :) , ME Johnny 5 :) , Need INPUT, I need TO KNOW is OPUS 1 a 57 FLOOR :) CONDO TOWER ready TO GO UP or Did it go to F.D.O.T.? :cheers:

BHK25

January 29th, 2005, 06:16 AM

BHK25

January 29th, 2005, 06:17 AM

WELCOME BACK DALE!

Dale

January 29th, 2005, 06:18 AM

Thanks !

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 06:32 AM

I know Chuck I can't find any information about Opus I saw some renderings but I can't remember where. ANyway checking the ssp website I saw they have a
72 floors Met 2 project. And I don't have any info on this either.
COME ON BHK :) , Spill the BEANS, lol, Okay , BUT ONE Change FOR A FACT its NOW 74 FLOORS and thats a FACT, JACK, lol.and at LEAST 840 FEET, and Thats NO LIE !!!, lol. Tell Him DALE :) , LOL. :cheers:
And DALE :) , I'm still TRYING to Catch UP with you on POSTS :) , I'm almost HALF way to ya since you've been AWAY on a Beautiful VACATION for 2 days, lol. :cheers:

BHK25

January 29th, 2005, 06:42 AM

Ok so Met 2 is a total different project than Met 3? at least thats what it says on the SSP Site

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 07:08 AM

Ok so Met 2 is a total different project than Met 3? at least thats what it says on the SSP Site
TRUE BHK :) , MET 2 Is At 48 Stories as MET 1 at 40 FLOORS and Maybe at 512 FEET For MET 2 :) AROUND 420 feet FOR THE MET 1 TOWER, :cheers: and Always been that way According to the SALES TRAILER ON SITE :) , Its NEVER REALLY BEEN CHANGED, :cheers:
THE ONLY BIG CHANGE of PLANS , was MET 3 ALL Totally Diffferent DESIGN and Added FLOORS to Mkae it the TALLEST :) RESIDENTIAL TOWER SOUTH of NEW YORK CITY :) and thats THE TRUTH !!! :) , GO CRANES ! :cheers:

Dale

January 29th, 2005, 07:24 AM

Chuck, I thought Met 1 was 40 stories ?

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 07:46 AM

Chuck, I thought Met 1 was 40 stories ?
YES DALE :) , Correction, MET 1 is only 40 Stories. I corrected it, Give ME :weirdo: :jk: a 1 Hour Suspension :bash: , LOL.

O-town

January 29th, 2005, 08:07 AM

Why does it say it's the tallest south of NYC? Did Chicago decide to move north?

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 10:08 AM

Why does it say it's the tallest south of NYC? Did Chicago decide to move north?
O-TOWN :) , Believe IT or NOT, Chicago :) is 1 Latitude MORE NORTH than NEW YORK CITY :) , THIS IS A TRUE FACT, PLease CHECK before POSTING !!! :cheers: , and THIS is INFO from the BOOK OF FACTS, the 2005 WORLD ALMANAC :) , Turn to PAGE 497, CHICAGO :) is at LAT. 41 .51 NORTH, LONG. 87 .39 WEST, at a Elevation of 596 FEET. NEW YORK CITY :) is at LAT. 40 .42 NORTH, LONG. 74 .0 WEST, at a Elevation of 55 FEET. Please O-TOWN :) , Check always before Posting, I'm ONLY Posting the FACTS here, lol. :cheers:

Displaced Miami Man

January 29th, 2005, 01:32 PM

*this was posted by Renner (sp?) in the Miami Performing Arts thread*

Sorry Chuck

Posted on Sat, Jan. 29, 2005

REAL ESTATE

FDOT to buy land near PAC

The Florida Department of Transportation said it plans to buy the property sandwiched between Interstate 395 and the Performing Arts Center, allaying fears of a high-rise condominium next to the much-anticipated venue.

BY MATTHEW HAGGMAN

mhaggman@herald.com

The Florida Department of Transportation said it plans to buy the triangular parcel at the corner of Interstate 395 and Biscayne Boulevard slated for a high-rise condominium, a move that would avert the possibility of a hulking tower blocking views of Miami's Performing Arts Center.

On Thursday morning -- shortly before condo developers planned to request the final approval necessary from the Miami City Commission to build on the site -- FDOT formally made an offer for the property.

Paul Murphy, who is leading the development group that proposed building a 57-story condo called Opus One, did not immediately accept FDOT's offer.

But he deferred the permit request with city officials for 60 days to complete negotiations with FDOT.

''We fully expect to have a satisfactory settlement for everyone,'' said Lucia A. Dougherty, a lawyer for the Opus developers.

FDOT spokesman Brian Rick made plain the state agency's plans: ``We intend to purchase the property.''

FDOT has said it needs the parcel for future changes to I-395 but had not previously made a formal offer to buy the property.

Many in the arts community have worried about the specter of a high-rise tower rising immediately next to the PAC, which has cost hundreds of millions in public funds.

If built, Opus One would be located directly across the street from the PAC, a scenario critics call unsuitable for a venue hoped to have the significance of, say, the Sydney Opera House in Australia.

Adding to critics' worry: city leaders said current law left them with limited options to stop the high-rise condo, unless a third-party bought the site.

''Thank God,'' Parker D. Thomson, chairman of the Performing Arts Center Trust, said about FDOT's move. ``We've got the [Performing Arts Center] buildings close to finished and they are going to change Miami. They need to be seen, we don't need other buildings in front of them.''

City leaders similarly expressed relief.

''It is good news for us,'' said Miami City Commissioner Johnny L. Winton. ``The city of Miami is no longer stuck in the middle of this situation.''

The Opus One parcel is bordered by Northeast 13 Street, N. Bayshore Drive, Biscayne Boulevard and I-395.

Murphy proposed building a 408-unit condo tower with 570 parking spaces and more than 17,000 square feet of retail and office space, according to city documents.

FDOT also made an offer for the two blocks immediately west of the Opus One site, which each run alongside I-395 and are also owned by the Murphy-led group, Dougherty said.

Murphy controls the three parcels with a group of investors who he declined to name.

The state agency said it remains uncertain exactly what changes will be made to I-395, but the three parcels are necessary for whatever it does.

Attorney John Shubin, who is leading the PAC's efforts against the Opus One project, expressed optimism the Opus developers and FDOT will strike a deal.

'It is my hope that the developers' willingness to continue the matter is a sign discussions are going favorably,'' Shubin said.

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 05:00 PM

yep :) , displaced miami man :) , this PISSES me off !!!, A SAD DAY :bash: FOR Us MIAMI-METRO Sub-Forum MEMBERS, I still Think There's A CHANCE, But We :) could LOSE as MANY as 3 BEAUTIFUL CONDO TOWERS That could of BEEN OVER 400 FEET :bash: , VERY SAD !!! :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy: I REALLY WANTED THIS OPUS TOWER to go up, ITS A Very SAD DAY IN MIAMI. :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy:

MIAballinboi

January 29th, 2005, 05:44 PM

hell no, thats b/s,

shoot this sux

but dont the opus people own the land already? just build it dont sell it to the fdot,

its gonna get blocked anyway with the tons of towers going up,

if worst comes to worst i bet theyll just relocate opus project

Rx727sfl2002

January 29th, 2005, 07:03 PM

thank god opus is dead this highway is much more important then any 3 towers and the results will only be more towers in the parkwest overtown area once this highway is rebuilt.

INTERSTATE 395 REALLIGNMENT

http://img82.exs.cx/img82/2418/expressway-01.th.jpg (http://img82.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img82&image=expressway-01.jpg)

http://img89.exs.cx/img89/1179/expressway-02.th.jpg (http://img89.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img89&image=expressway-02.jpg)

mike18

January 29th, 2005, 07:17 PM

ChuckScraperMiami#1

January 29th, 2005, 07:33 PM

interesting thought:

when they built the four seasons they said it was the tallest RESIDENTIAL building south of new york. Now that they're building met 3 all they say is that she is the tallest south of new york.

So does this mean the tallest residential or the tallest building period???

if they mean tallest residential then its over 800 but if they mean tallest building its over 1000!!!!!

cross your fingers and tap ur ruby slippers together!!
LOL MIKE :) , I'm crossing MY Fingers :) and Clicking my RUBY Slippers :) , BUT its Working as The TALLEST RESIDENTIAL TOWER :) South of NEW YORK CITY, and ITS OVER 840 Feet :) , Thats FOR SURE !!! :cheers:

streetscapeer

January 29th, 2005, 07:35 PM

Sure Rx, you're happy...but the way public projects go in Miami, who knows when the 395 restructuring will begin.

The following statement sounds really vague, almos like they don't know what their doing:

"The state agency said it remains uncertain exactly what changes will be made to I-395, but the three parcels are necessary for whatever it does."

nimbyhater

January 29th, 2005, 08:35 PM

so will the lose of opus 1 affect opus 2? cause wasnt opus 2 slated for almost met 3 height?

also, it is totally confirmed that design of met 3 has been changed to this new art deco masterpiece, cause in the ad it has the big new rendering, but in the smaller picture on the side thats shows all three buildings at once it again uses the old one... just consirming so i dont get my hopes up before i leap with joy at the beauty of this new design... its fukin gorgeous!

MIAballinboi

January 29th, 2005, 10:53 PM

well what rx posted those pics look cool, lets see what happens hopefully the opus projects move somewhere else maybe 'Brickell"

rider_of_rohan

January 30th, 2005, 12:43 AM

What is the Opus 2 project. I havent seen any posts about this. Does anyone have a link or rendering?

Rx727sfl2002

January 30th, 2005, 12:51 AM

PROPOSED OPUS TOWER PHASE 2 AROUND 70 FLOORS

http://img26.exs.cx/img26/2173/Picture1624.th.jpg (http://img26.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img26&image=Picture1624.jpg)

rider_of_rohan

January 30th, 2005, 01:10 AM

Thanks Rx, it is tall, but I have to say its ugly as sin. Looks like some kind of prison, a high rise one. I like Met 3 much much better.

mileageman

January 30th, 2005, 02:08 AM

As per arquitectonica, opus 1 was to have been 642 ft., opus 2 would have been 762 ft.

nimbyhater

January 30th, 2005, 02:36 AM

would they have been next to each other, or was opus 2 a two tower project?

BHK25

January 30th, 2005, 04:17 AM

Yeah I hope they move the Opus projects south to Brickell. let's cross fingers!

MIAballinboi

January 30th, 2005, 04:42 AM

RX, u da man. great rendering, well it has height

jzquince69

January 31st, 2005, 04:31 AM

Hey guys. I reported to Paul Cuccuza at emporis about Met 2 being 750 ft. and 72 stories a few months back based on the article from the Herald, and after verification from some of you guys (maybe Chuck); I can't remember. That article was pretty specific. And I know what they told you, Chuck at the sales/construction office. Didn't the article even make reference to Met 3 also?

MAN! that Met 3 is freaking awesome (the new pict.). Screw FDOT on Opus. Man, Chuck, latitude and longitude... holy shiite. "Don't fuck with the Jedi master" (quote from Jay and Silent Bob).

Anyway, that article was very specific about Met 2, also b/c Met 3 was never as short as 750 ft. in any rendering. They couldn't have screwed it up that bad without any basis for the article. Anyway, I'm in Orlando and can't go to the construction office, so Chuck, if you can reverify then please do; or, if you already did, then nevermind; you're the master...

BHK25

January 31st, 2005, 03:29 PM

Yeah its weird. The skyscraperpage has the Met 2 at 229 m. thats 750 ft roughly. BUt Chuck said last week that Met 2 was 512 ft. I don't know where Emporis got those numbers but if its true It'll be awesome.

JR79

January 31st, 2005, 07:23 PM

Everyone, according to a recent ad in the Miami Herald, Met 3 is now 74 stories and is said to be the tallest [residential] building south of NYC. How high? I don't know, probably over 800 feet.

Here is the ad in the herald: http://specialsections.miami.com/Sections.aspx?sec=11394

Toucano

January 31st, 2005, 09:49 PM

http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26/SS/11394/SectionAds/291864.jpg

ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 1st, 2005, 12:00 AM

Dale

February 1st, 2005, 05:31 AM

If Manny leaves to run for governor, I'M VOTING CHUCK FOR MAYOR !!!

Can't get over what an improvement the new design is over the original.

MIAballinboi

February 1st, 2005, 06:12 AM

i second that, yes met3 over 850!!!most likely met2, is only like a 500 footer which is also good!

JEmanuel56

February 1st, 2005, 10:41 AM

i saw we all place our funds together just to buy the penthouse... that will lead to some amazing arial shots of brickell and cbd

nimbyhater

February 1st, 2005, 11:52 PM

ballinboi, the very fact that were bitchin about a 500 ft tower makes me very happy, man i luv miami

MIAballinboi

February 2nd, 2005, 01:16 AM

guys just wondering lets say we all bought the top penthouse condo. can we somehow convert it and make it as a privately owned observation club? where like people can come and pay like 10 bucks and see the whole city of miami from the deck? well call it the ssc club :cheers:

take that miami club lool

jzquince69

February 2nd, 2005, 01:43 AM

So did the Herald get it wrong with Met 2 thinking it was Met 3, or did the sales office tell them something else? The dates are roughly the same; it's the height figure that confuses me b/c Met 3 was always to be taller than Wachovia, and they stated 750 ft. as the height for Met 2. maybe i'm beating a dead horse. :)

Dale

February 2nd, 2005, 01:57 AM

I think there is reason to be confused about the herald article, whether the Herald erred or whether MDM changed its mind.

But the ad clearly shows a very tall and redesigned Met 3 which is to be the South's tallest (presumably residential).

logybogy

February 2nd, 2005, 08:00 AM

I think the Met people just changed their mind. The Herald was right a few months ago, but things change in the development world very fast....

JEmanuel56

February 2nd, 2005, 09:11 AM

miami ballin im with u their but i dont think that will bring much people to the ssc club unless we offer free "cake and ice cream"

jzquince69

February 2nd, 2005, 04:42 PM

Hopefully MDM will see DuPont's location as a problem and get Met 2 up to 750 ft. as they previously said; then they'll have 2 towers over 750 ft. instead of one. Met 2's height now, although not too shabby at over 500', might get lost in the shuffle with BOA and the DuPont buildings nearby, as well as Met 3.

south florida dave

February 4th, 2005, 06:36 PM

http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26%5CSS%5C11521%5CSectionAds%5C295109.jpg

it's pretty safe to say at this point that the herald is very suspect with the renderings it uses. i'm inclined to believe this one is the actual design that'll get built since the small total project rendering to the left of the ad also shows this design in it. but i guess we'll just have to wait & see.

as for this design, it's not bad. i think the design that came out last week looks better, though. this one's a little more stale.

can't they build both? :)

MiamiSunCity

February 4th, 2005, 06:46 PM

whats upp guys!!!! Today I find a picture of Met 3 in the Miami Herald and and article about it where it says that this building will be the tallest residential south of Manhattan,so for those who dreamed about a 1000 feet tower I dont think it is gonna happen and also when I turn the page I found another picture of Met 3 in a new rendering ,a diferent tower with a new desing top like the one in Goldman Sach in New Jercey,so I think the arquitects havent agreed in a final design yet...If any of you could post any pictures ,it would help.. by the way in the second picture Met 3 looks way more high than Wachovia.....

jzquince69

February 4th, 2005, 07:34 PM

How many versions are they going to make? I feel like I'm in an episode of "Sliders" and I'm in an alternate reality Miami. I actually like this version of Met 3. It's top looks very downtown-ish. Plus there's more glass ornamental than in the previous design from last week;

south florida dave

February 4th, 2005, 07:50 PM

i called the met sales center to see if they had a scale model i could check out to see which design they're going with, but the lady said they don't have one. she did say, however, that she could email me some renderings. so i said hell yeah.

& here they are:

http://img234.exs.cx/img234/6884/met347sh.jpg

http://img234.exs.cx/img234/9388/met334dv.jpg

http://img234.exs.cx/img234/4415/met322yi.jpg

between these renderings & what's been in the paper the last 2 weeks, i still don't know exactly what this tower is gonna look like. these renderings look pretty close to what's in the herald ad, but there's still some differences. like the crown. the herald ad makes it look like it's a solid block top that runs across the entire length of the roof without any variation. the renderings make the crown look like it's been halved & has a distinct middle section.

at least miami can now claim to have its very own, authentic multiple personality disorder building! :lol:

JR79

February 4th, 2005, 08:21 PM

I agree, they both look pretty similar except for the crown on the top. I personally like the herald "version" of the building better. These latest renederings make the top look a little like the 4 seasons, which I think is a little dull looking, but hey it's going to be well over 800ft, so in the end, who cares!

streetscapeer

February 4th, 2005, 08:40 PM

Let's repost this ad for easy comparison (keep in mind that that this is a night rendition)

http://www.netrox.net/~erickahl/met3.jpg

streetscapeer

February 4th, 2005, 08:44 PM

I think they both look great....I'll be very happy with which ever one they choose!!...Thanks for the info and pics dave:D:D:D

south florida dave

February 4th, 2005, 09:49 PM

agreed, street. i'll be happy with either design. hopefully it'll have some nice night time lighting.

dave8721

February 4th, 2005, 09:54 PM

They are going to have to hurry if they want Met3 to be the tallest residential building south of NY when built. Las Vegas just approved a 923ft residential building, The Summit. Emporis said it is scheduled for 2008. See it here: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=213654

Dale

February 4th, 2005, 09:56 PM

Either is an improvement over the original design with that silly 'Mohawk' haircut thingy on top.

trickykid

February 5th, 2005, 02:53 AM

the new design in the paper confused me a little today. its been what, only a week since they announced the project and already a different design? the new tower looks like The Jade on brickell had a child with the Santa Maria and also a little like Gas Company Tower in LA and the new Hyatt Center in Chicago... like all those merged together. Not a bad looking building and at 800+ feet it'll look swell in the skyline!

Dale

February 5th, 2005, 03:02 AM

At the risk of sounding heretical, I like the modern design better. It's certainly more compatible with Met 1.

Dale

February 5th, 2005, 05:13 AM

Let's call it Sybil Tower.

MIAballinboi

February 5th, 2005, 07:01 AM

woow cool renderings

dave, those renderings look like the lynx downtown rendering i saw today, how its tall and sleek cool

well heres what the herald said

http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26/SS/11521/SectionTextBlocks/196420.gif
http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26/SS/11521/SectionTextBlocks/196567.gif
http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26/SS/11521/SectionTextBlocks/196568.gif
http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26/SS/11521/SectionTextBlocks/196569.gif

LOOOOL, look at the difference one page has one rendering the next page has a different one lol
http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26/SS/11521/SectionAds/295109.jpg

MIAballinboi

February 5th, 2005, 07:07 AM

http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26/SS/11521/SectionZooms/564625.jpg

it seems to be way taller than wachovia here, should be about 100 feet taller, with this redisgned bigger crown

The Mad Hatter!!

February 5th, 2005, 03:12 PM

MIAballinboi

February 5th, 2005, 06:15 PM

its not the same design uptown, cuz if u look at the bottom left hand corner it shows the entire met project, they look different, the new one has it bigger the top

MIAballinboi

February 5th, 2005, 06:17 PM

http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26/SS/11521/SectionZooms/564625.jpg

this is what i mean

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!

February 5th, 2005, 06:19 PM

your pics keep on having red x

MIAballinboi

February 5th, 2005, 07:01 PM

click on this link, its just the lil rendering in herald

http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26/SS/11521/SectionZooms/564625.jpg

south florida dave

February 5th, 2005, 08:49 PM

it's pretty obvious that they're different designs.

Mike19

February 5th, 2005, 08:57 PM

Ok. i just went to the herald online and the rendering they used on friday Feb 4, (yesterday) was the one with the "spike-strips" on top. so i don't know what the hell is going one. And the metroplitan miami people won't answer me back.

nimbyhater

February 6th, 2005, 01:56 AM

theyr definetly different designs the "herald" version is much blockier, with more straight edges, and god, i hope thats the one that gets built

but theres not really any question, its an artistic rendering in an advertisement designed to make a building look great and are notorious for not being entirely accurate... vs the pretty plain more authentic looking rendering version sent to sfdave straight from the met people... i think the met people would no more about wat building theyre building than the hearld people... as much as it sux, dave's are the ones thatr gettin built, but its still a great building, so i aint bitchin, just wish the "herald version" was it, cause that this is orgasmic

as for it not being the tallest, cause of the one theyre building in vegas, please, thats never gettin built, #1. perhaps im naive, but i wasnt aware of the extremely strong condo market in the city of las vegas #2. wat's the tallest building in vegas, im assuming one of the hotels (the palms maybe) and those are wat 30 stories tops, theyre not gonna jump from 30 stories to a sudden near 1000 ft residential building just outta nowhere... this is a grand idea, but aint ever gonna happen, the fact that its gotten approval dont mean squat... plenty of buildings have been approved in miami that are crazy and were never built... so this is never gonna happen

but some1 correct me if im wrong, for that was partially outta my ass

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!

February 6th, 2005, 02:55 AM

that 80 story building in lv aint going to happen because of proximity to an aiport,also it been around for a while and nothings happen yet also an 80 story residential doesn't usually happen,its usually a mixed use project.the reason met3 is 74 floors is becuase after you past 74floors the cost of each floor after increases significantly becuase of elevators amd cooling systems and so if you build past 74floors you won't make a resonable profit unless its offices.

in simple english,if you build more than 74floors the floors after the 74 end up not making a profit because of the systems needed to pwer the building.

so what i'm trying to say is that unless the developer plans to add offices to the project i doubt that that 80+story residential is going to happen

nimbyhater

February 6th, 2005, 03:27 AM

see! miami wins...lol

Dale

February 6th, 2005, 03:55 AM

Except that the LV has just been approved, and appears to have the requisite backing.

I personally don't care if Met 3 is tallest or not, just so it's a new tallest for Miami.

rider_of_rohan

February 6th, 2005, 05:26 AM

Nimby the tallest building in LV is the Stratosphere Tower at 1149 feet. Its right on the strip. Ive been in it, didnt like it all that much as it moves. Its not a true building like Met 3, but it does show that they will allow at least in some parts of Vegas some very tall buildings.

ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 6th, 2005, 05:57 AM

guys i think they're the same buildings if you look at the renderning sf dave posted it has the fins.and in the herald advertising it may look different because of the angle of the building
http://img229.exs.cx/img229/4052/met347sh9id.png
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February 6th, 2005, 07:40 AM

thats rite chuck, GO EAGLES! FUK THE PATS! opps, the wasnt appropriate language, sry jason, but u must grant me this one time, above all that that was most appropriate, chuck, can ya huk me up wit some eagles periphenilia? all i got is my teal thomas jersey, i guess miami teal is close enough to philadelphia green... superbowl party at chuck's house

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February 7th, 2005, 07:01 AM

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jzquince69

February 7th, 2005, 03:49 PM

Met 3 is Met 3. Its just the latest Miami's Tallest. Everytime they build one, the next one will go even taller. Just like in Chicago, NYC, LA, Atlanta, etc. Four Seasons will lose its crown in 3 years. There will probably be another proposal to best Met 3 within a year or so. BY the way, any news on the condo tower at Watson island thats supposed to be 80 stories?

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!

February 8th, 2005, 01:48 AM

I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF SOMETHING DOESN'T CHALLENGE MET 3 WITHIN A YEAR

streetscapeer

February 9th, 2005, 12:59 AM

Courtesy of Brickell

http://www.netrox.net/~erickahl/met33.jpg

http://www.netrox.net/~erickahl/met3txt.gif

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!

February 9th, 2005, 01:22 AM

ohh god that thing is ugly as hell

brickell

February 9th, 2005, 05:57 AM

you could at least give me a little credit street...

the new ad doesn't look that different from the "official" rendering that dave posted so i think that's what we'll end up with.

I like it enough.

Dale

February 9th, 2005, 06:11 AM

Any of the three beat hell out the original with that silly mohawk haircut top.

nimbyhater

February 10th, 2005, 12:09 AM

ugh... this new one sux... i hope next weeksll be better

jzquince69

February 10th, 2005, 02:30 AM

I think the top of the latest Met 3 tower design will be lit at night. It will look cool. I like it b/c it looks sophisticated in a big-city kind of way.

rider_of_rohan

February 10th, 2005, 06:28 AM

Do you think they make a new design every week to see what they get for calls??? Heck this new one is ugly, but it may be like its being said that this one looks taller, and they want to keep the tallest title.

MarkyMark

February 10th, 2005, 10:53 PM

I called up a sales person at Met 3 today......damn those condo prices are so expensive!!! They are selling for between $420 and $500 a square foot for the lower apartments with no waterview.

They haven't started selling the sky loft apartments and penthouse apartments yet.....but I'm sure they will be selling for north of $700 a square foot.

Makes me wonder whether all this is sustainable.

Dale

February 10th, 2005, 11:04 PM

The way this boom continues makes me wonder how long the pessimism can be sustained. :wink2:

rider_of_rohan

February 11th, 2005, 12:40 AM

It has to end some time Dale. Just hope the big ones get built :). Maybe they will just have to push the time tables back a while so the population can catch up with the units. They are asking an aweful lot of money though which makes me think that this wont last as long as we all want it to. Some of these have to have a reasonable price on them.

Dale

February 11th, 2005, 12:49 AM

It stands to reason that it will not always grow at this present rate, but we've been saying that for a while now.

I think the Met 3 prices reflect what they know lots of people out there are willing to pay. Who are they ? Where do they come from ? How did they get all that money ?

Hell if I know, but there sure are lots of 'em. :)

the_1_and_only_cuban

February 11th, 2005, 01:17 AM

Dale

February 11th, 2005, 01:20 AM

^ Hope she's not like the girl who'd late for the prom because she keeps changing her hairdo.

ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 11th, 2005, 02:46 AM

I like the last one the most i guess... Just cause of the lighted stripe going up the side but wuts up with the Marge Simpson hairdo on the top?? Well, there'll be another one out next week so don't get attached. Somebody call me when Met 3 gets "her" shit together...
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Mike19

February 13th, 2005, 08:50 PM

On friday the herald had an add for Met 3. It was the one with the crazy spike like things of the top. ANYWAYS, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN WE WILL LEARN THE HEIGHT OF MET 3?!?!?!!?!?!?! i e-mailed the ppl but they haven't e-mailed back.

MIAballinboi

February 13th, 2005, 09:17 PM

just wait prolly in the next issue of the city of miami report,

cuz they have to have talked to the city by then, !!!

rider_of_rohan

February 13th, 2005, 11:04 PM

Well it will have to be pretty soon if they are breaking ground in June.

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!

February 13th, 2005, 11:13 PM

^ Hope she's not like the girl who'd late for the prom because she keeps changing her hairdo.

haha :lol: :hilarious

Mike19

February 14th, 2005, 11:29 PM

skyscrapers.com has made it official, at least on their website. 264 meters, 866 feet. Met 3, Miami's new tallest. and think Met 2 is about 700 hundred feet soo it will totally change the skyline.

Dale

February 14th, 2005, 11:42 PM

Yep, now the intrigue shifts to how tall Met 2 will be. Of course it could be a ways off.

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!

February 14th, 2005, 11:55 PM

WHOA ITS OFFICALLY 100FT HIGH THAN WACHOVIA,,,,YEAAA BABBYYY

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!

February 14th, 2005, 11:56 PM

I DOUBT MET2 WILL BE HIGH THAN 600 FT

Dale

February 15th, 2005, 12:08 AM

I DOUBT MET2 WILL BE HIGH THAN 600 FT

The way MDM changes its mind, who can predict ?

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!

February 15th, 2005, 12:13 AM

ITS FUNNY HOW SKYSCRAPER.COM PUT THE HEIGHT AT 866FT BUT SKYSCRAPERPAGE CHANGED THERE MODEL TO 820FT FROM 870FT

MIAballinboi

February 15th, 2005, 02:47 AM

^skyscrapers.com is too jumpy, and didnt quite catch up with this forum for heights and news, its following this forum

but thats cool, we will definetly see if were getting this height figure, it should be in the next great report for march 2005 hopefully its even higher than that loool, im greedy, comeon make it 872 feet to be the 2nd tallest tower in the south, just after that boa atlanta,

Aessotariq

February 15th, 2005, 02:57 AM

ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 15th, 2005, 05:26 AM

Met3 would probably still have the distinction of having the highest occupied floor south of New York... 74 vs. Atlanta's Westin Peachtree (73), and Bank of America Plaza (55) with its 300 foot crown.
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ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 16th, 2005, 03:41 AM

GREAT NEWS Everyone :) :) :) !!!, Picture THIS, The MET 3 CONDO TOWER Taller than the 871 FOOT, 60 STORY, SUNTRUST BANK TOWER on NE Peachtree St. in ATLANTA , GEORGIA, WELL IT'S TRUE and A FACT !!!, :cheers:
I went by OUR Favorite SALES LADY :) at the MET SALES CENTER TODAY, Tuesday, February 15th, 2005, And THE NICE :) Lady SPILLED the Beans ON ME, lol, GUESS WHAT Everyone :) , Shes a Guest Here, and TOLD ME , MET 3 WILL BE ALMOST 900 FEET :cheers: , IN FACT :) , its the NEWEST DESIGN that's OUT NOW, not the First One out in the Herald LAST WEEK, AND the ONLY DELAY We had Wrong Is the Groundbreaking Which Will be Late THIS YEAR, 2005, Instead of JUNE Due to last minute Changes to its DESIGN, BUT !!!, Will still be COMPLETED by January 1st, 2010 :cheers: AS THE TALLEST RESIDENTIAL TOWER :) SOUTH of MANHATTEN, NEW YORK CITY !!! at 74 FLOORS. :cheers:
THIS IS IT :) , Almost 4 YEARS of Construction TO Build the Tallest TOWER MIAMI Will Ever See for the Next 10 YEARS !!! :cheers:

nimbyhater

February 16th, 2005, 03:53 AM

wait, so at almost 900 feet, its safe to assume it will be taller than 871 ft, therefore taller than peachtree, therefore giving Miami the tallest in the south over atlants, HOLY SHIT! CHUCK, ARE YOU SHITTING ME! almost 150 ft taller than wachovia! new tallest in the south, chuck please verify before i sacrifice several small animals in honor of this new news!

ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 16th, 2005, 03:56 AM

NIMBY :) , its TRUE :) , Shes Watching US right now, and Making SURE I TELL the TRUTH about HER TOWER, lol :cheers: ., ALMOST 900 FEET :) , and THAT's A FACT !!! :cheers:

BHK25

February 16th, 2005, 04:52 AM

Ok OK PART IN THE MAGIC CITY. AND THIS IS THE YEAR THE MIAMI HEAT ARE THE NEW NBA CHAMPS. TALLER THAN 871 FT. PARTY TIME. THANKS FOR THE INFO CHUCK. :

:dance:

MIAballinboi

February 16th, 2005, 06:07 AM

haha well theres still that boa in atlanta thats like a 1000 feet with a 500 foot spire lool, but that dont count lol

comeon city report,!!!...... please say 9** feet tall loool

brickell

February 16th, 2005, 07:18 AM

since when do we depend on sales people for "facts"?

Rx727sfl2002

February 16th, 2005, 03:12 PM

that would mean that it has 12 ft cielings and 9 ft parking floors making it
around 852 without the crown.

12 floors of parking at 9 ft = 108
62 floors of residential at 12 ft = 744
total without crown = 852

crown would have to be around = 20-50 ft

but if they go on the low end of the false advetising scale we would be looking at

12 floors of parking at 9 ft = 108
62 floors of residential at 9 ft = 558
total without crown = 666

what an evil design

but then mid range design would be something like

12 floors of parking at 9 ft = 108
62 floors of residential at 10 ft = 620
total without crown = 728

which would put it at around 750 with a crown

Dale

February 16th, 2005, 07:03 PM

I don't know about sales people, but we have reason to trust Chuck. After all, he correctly reported that Met 3 would go before Met 2, and that it would be announced as Miami's tallest. He was right on both counts.

Also, isn't Four Seasons 789 ft. with 64 floors ? Even at 70 floors we're talking better than 11 per story, and this with only a minor ornament on top.

Dale

February 16th, 2005, 07:06 PM

Informal poll time. Would you rather see an :

(A) 866 footer break ground in June, or an...

(B) 890 footer break ground in November ?

streetscapeer

February 16th, 2005, 07:35 PM

^^haha...def (B)...we shouldn't sacrifice that beautiful height just for our impatience...lol

MIAballinboi

February 16th, 2005, 10:37 PM

true (B)

rx its gonna be miamis tallest so its gotta be close to ur first estimate

The Mad Hatter!!

February 16th, 2005, 10:58 PM

well met 3 has loft units with 19ft ceilings,other units with 11 ft celings,and regular units with 9.6 ft ceilings.so its hard to calculate the height.

BHK25

February 17th, 2005, 12:07 AM

Definitively B. If there's any risk of cancelling this project I'd wait in order to get a taller building

nimbyhater

February 17th, 2005, 02:08 AM

definetly b, were gonna have a new tallest by far... im still giddy about all this...

Mike19

February 17th, 2005, 02:17 AM

how credible is this information.

Dale

February 17th, 2005, 03:42 AM

^ Which information ?

The Mad Hatter!!

February 17th, 2005, 03:47 AM

ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 17th, 2005, 06:25 AM

hes talkin about what chuck said,i'm not going to doubt chuck anymore becuase the other day he made me feel stupid when i said that met2 was before met3.so for me chuck is as credible as any source(especially the herald)
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Dale

February 17th, 2005, 06:46 AM

Chuck, is it the new design exactly, or something like the new design ?

nimbyhater

February 17th, 2005, 11:40 PM

if groundreabking is november, and it should be done... when should we start being it go vertical, summer 2007, how high will it be?

the_1_and_only_cuban

February 18th, 2005, 12:15 AM

Well, I'm happy thats its a new tallest of the South but I'm really excited about getting a MIAMI's tallest!!! Although, I would rather much have the first design even if it meant losing the "tallest in the south" distinction.. Is the second design the Marge Simspson top?? I don't know about anyone else but I'm not really feeling that design..

Dale

February 18th, 2005, 12:32 AM

I don't get this 'tallest building in the south' thing. Did I miss something ?

The Mad Hatter!!

February 18th, 2005, 01:06 AM

what do you mean dale,they mean tallest residential in the south

Dale

February 18th, 2005, 01:07 AM

I thought someone was saying tallest overall.

ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 18th, 2005, 03:58 AM

Chuck, is it the new design exactly, or something like the new design ?
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BHK25

February 18th, 2005, 04:35 AM

This is the big cheater of the South.. lol Just/Kidding

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/bhk24/atlantachristmas2004054.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/bhk24/atlantachristmas2004057.jpg

MIAballinboi

February 18th, 2005, 02:47 PM

lol i bet our tower will be taller to the roof than this boa atlanta, the spire cheater lol

BHK25

February 18th, 2005, 03:33 PM

lol i bet our tower will be taller to the roof than this boa atlanta, the spire cheater lol

I hope so too!

The Mad Hatter!!

February 18th, 2005, 03:45 PM

well ours is a cheater to which about a 150ft crown,but i really dislike boa,it looks like a pen and an ugly one at that

jzquince69

February 18th, 2005, 09:46 PM

BOA Atlanta is a pretty bldg. It is a perfect bldg. for Atl. Its color scheme is perfect for that town. I think Met 3 will totally cater to the Miami look. Without the crown, that BOA should be less than 900' tall; more like 850'. That's not a real 1,000 footer. Chicago's got real 1,000 footers. In fact, they're all at least 1,100 footers (except for At&T which is really 891' to the roof).

Miami WILL get a 1,000 footer soon. I'm telling you. I keep forgetting its 2005 so Chuck, you may be right about the WHEN factor.

streetscapeer

February 18th, 2005, 09:50 PM

can someone post a picture of the met3 design that chuck is talking about??...I'm kinda confused...

brickell

February 19th, 2005, 03:25 AM

This one?

http://www.netrox.net/~erickahl/met33.jpg

nimbyhater

February 19th, 2005, 06:48 AM

thats it... i really dont like this rendering that much... but the height makes up for it... plus well get a better and taller one soon neways...

ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 19th, 2005, 11:47 PM

BRICKELL !!!!!!! :) , YOU DA MAN !!! :) , THats OUR BABY :) , YES at 890 FEET, and 74 FLOORS :) SHES Fully STACKED, lol. and The TALLEST Residential TOWER SOUTH of Manhatten, NEW YORK CITY :) , Great PIC, Bro :) , THIS IS IT, GROUNDBREAKING a Definate LATE NOVEMBER, Early December, 2005 :) !!!! lets all Drink :cheers: to Our Mother of MOTHERS :) on New Years EVE, 2009 :) and MOVE IN on New Years DAY, January 1st, 2010, and Go Shopping at the WHOLE FOODS MARKET :) and get More Beer !!! :cheers:

nimbyhater

February 20th, 2005, 02:37 AM

whole grain beer made from the finest all natural ingredients and didnt hurt any animals in the beer making process... cause its whole foods market...

JR79

February 20th, 2005, 08:02 AM

It seems like the longer they delay the groundbreaking, the taller it gets. Well, I hope this new 890' height is the final height so that they can break ground already and start building it. By the way, I just happen to work for the company that just might build it (hint: starts with a B), and based on a very rough sketch that I saw, the height was shown as 844'. This sketch was received from the architect on 01/31/05, so I'm assuming that in the last few weeks, MDM has changed it's mind and decided to go even higher, which is good.

Dale

February 20th, 2005, 08:08 AM

^ so at the present rate, if we could just put them off until, say, late 2006, we might get our thousand-footer after all ! :cheers:

MIAballinboi

February 20th, 2005, 11:50 PM

well this is the ad in todays herald,

i guess they might stick to this design, for now lol
http://specialsections.miami.com/p2_images/26/ROP/ROPAds/0103_20050220.gif.gif

well see the height in a couple weeks! march 2005 report! :cheers:

Dale

February 21st, 2005, 12:29 AM

I guess what I don't understand is, if they've settled on a design, why do they have to delay groundbreaking for several months ?

The Mad Hatter!!

February 21st, 2005, 12:46 AM

^^dale if you change the design that means new buildings permits,new building plans,new calculations for building cost materials calculations and hundreds of other things that are associated with the design and the building of a skyscraper

Dale

February 21st, 2005, 12:54 AM

The Mad Hatter!!

February 21st, 2005, 12:56 AM

im not sure if met 3 has gotten a major use special permit,gone to the urban design review board or gotten building permits yet.

ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 21st, 2005, 05:52 AM

^ so at the present rate, if we could just put them off until, say, late 2006, we might get our thousand-footer after all ! :cheers:
LOL DALE :) , Your So Funny :) , BUT THAT SOUNDS GREAT :cheers: , I hope they Delay IT MORE Then, Then it WOULD be a 1,000 FOOOTER< I"M FOR that, GO CRANES :) !!!, This is POST number 1,010 DALE :) , I'm Catching UP with You, BRO, LOL. :cheers:

MIAballinboi

February 21st, 2005, 07:11 AM

haha, na i dont think they got approval for any designs, the last that was approved was when it had that office component, cuz the new stuff isnt in the city report,

but most likely it gotta be in the next months report!!!

ChuckScraperMiami#1

February 21st, 2005, 07:29 AM

I understand that, but was the version with the fins the already approved design, or was that one of two new designs, either of which would have required a delay ?

You know, when the whole project is completed, somebody ought to write a book about it. This project has had more twists, and surprises then any I can remember.
LOL DALE :) , TWIST AND SHOUT !!! :) , But Remember THERE's NO F.F.A. :bash: LIMITS here in this AREA of Downtown MIAMI, so the Heights Can go Higher and Delays could be Longer, By 2007 we could have OUR first 1,000 Footer :) , lol, NOT :jk: But I WISH !!! :cheers:

The Mad Hatter!!

February 21st, 2005, 05:27 PM

ballinboi you're driving me insane with the city reports,you and chuck sound like broken records

jzquince69

February 25th, 2005, 06:22 PM

Where did u get the 890 foot height figure from?

Dale

February 25th, 2005, 06:34 PM

^ After a Miami news station reported a height of 866 ft., as reported by a forumer, the MDM sales rep, that Chuck knows, told him that it would be even taller than that, almost 900 ft.

So I think the 890 is just a round figure based on that.

south florida dave

February 28th, 2005, 07:41 AM

here's what we've been waiting to hear:

Ads run, but tower is short on approvals

A Miami-based development company has touted plans to build the tallest residential tower south of New York City on the onetime site of railroad magnate Henry Flagler's Royal Palm Hotel.

Ads are running that pitch sales for a 74-story, 650-unit Met 3 - the second residential condominium planned for MDM Development Group's Metropolitan Miami development spread across three downtown city blocks near the mouth of the Miami River.

But when city staff saw the ad, they contacted the developer.

The developer did get permission for a 70-plus story building in April 2004. But two months later, MDM requested permission to make the overall project heights shorter, which canceled out the earlier approval.

The project is located in the city's central business district, which has no height restrictions, said Luciana Lamardo-González, special projects coordinator for the planning department.

But because of the last round of revisions, MDM must go through the process again, reapplying for changes, and appearing before city boards, to build Met 3 at that height.

If approved at 866 feet, Met 3 would pass Millennium Partners' 789-foot Four Seasons Hotel and Tower on Brickell Avenue for bragging rights of tallest residential building in the Southeast. At that height, Met 3 would also rank as the world's 61st-tallest building, according to real estate database site Emporis.com.

Clearance is also required from the Federal Aviation Administration. A spokeswoman for the project said the developers are in the process of getting approval from the FAA.

A special variance from Miami-Dade County also may be required. Heights in parts of the downtown area are restricted to 650 feet because of aircraft overhead.

Jose A. Ramos, chief of aviation planning, said his office has not seen plans for the building.

City documents peg the total cost of the Metropolitan Miami project at $1 billion, with an estimated $4.8 million in taxes generated to the city annually. About 1,500 residential units would be built.

- Susan Stabley

source: South Florida Business Journal (http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2005/02/28/tidbits1.html)

south florida dave

February 28th, 2005, 07:48 AM

now we know that 866ft. is the target height & all i can say is WOW! i love it!

problem is, i don't know if mdm knows what the hell it's doing. there's a lot of disarray surrounding this project & it makes me a little nervous. the faa getting their hands on this thing & knocking down the height also worries me. either way, though, it's nice to finally see the 866ft. height in print from a good source.

streetscapeer

February 28th, 2005, 07:57 AM

good news..I'm kinda worried about the management too...but hopefully things work out...thanks for the info;)

Roark

February 28th, 2005, 09:09 AM

problem is, i don't know if mdm knows what the hell it's doing. there's a lot of disarray surrounding this project & it makes me a little nervous. the faa getting their hands on this thing & knocking down the height also worries me. either way, though, it's nice to finally see the 866ft. height in print from a good source.Good observations...the FAA is the least of the worries.
When you see Ocean Drive ads and lots of hype and the building isn't totally reserved...beware.
These days, good projects are 100% reserved before they open the sales center. That way, the risk to the developer/equity investors is minimized. The sales center is a formality that serves as a resale center and brings credibility for the next project.
True story...one famous developer asked me why I'd buy Brickell on the River for $309 per square foot when I could have bought ICE for the same price. He did a great job hyping the area back then as he did buying adds and publicists. No question, Chad Oppenheim is 10 x's more interesting than Cohen-Freidman, Encinosa & Associates, but the the inferior location and the fact that Oppenheim and the developer hadn't had a successful high rise completed were warning signs, and today, it seems like the right choice. Remember...ICE and Brickell on the River started selling at the same time. BotR will be finished soon and as far as I know (the Ocean Drive ads don't mention), ICE has yet to finish the foundation work.
SFDave is right Bottom line: Go with your instinct, in this market, you have to bet on the developments where the team knows what the hell they are doing!

Dale

February 28th, 2005, 08:18 PM

Maybe we owe the Miami herald an apology, since it is becoming clear that MDM has been all over the map.

The Mad Hatter!!

March 1st, 2005, 12:39 AM

i knew met3 hadn't gotten approval yet.

MIAballinboi

March 1st, 2005, 02:22 AM

i knew they were running the ads real quick, the 74 story tower wasnt approved yet, the one with the office building and the shorter buildings was approved, and the original 72 story design which was the oldest design was cancelled, so now back to approvals

well at least its reliable source,

well its great news, but only if it were just a couple feet taller to become taller than that charlotte tower and the suntrust atlanta!

but we cant get too greedy

i love this sentence right here

The project is located in the city's central business district, which has
--- No Height Restrictions, ---
said Luciana Lamardo-González, special projects coordinator for the planning department.

chuck wat u gotta say? wheres the 890!

:cheers: