Part 1 http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=78118 is archived !

Here's number two :)

Thanks De Snor! :)

Congratualtion to everybody for Part I, Welcome to Part II of the Sarajevo - construction update.

oh...cool! :D hope this second part turns out to be as good as the last one. btw, does anyone have any information/pictures of sarajevo projects? i know that there is alot going on, but we all need some pictures...

bimmer-sa, what going on with the pictures man! :(

update on the bosmal city centre.

http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-01-28-krov2.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-01-28-kran2.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-01-28-heliodrom.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-01-28-bosmal.jpg
Demontiranje centralnog krana



Centralni kran na gradilištu Bosmal City Center-a demontiran je sa visine od 138 na 87,5 metara.

Ovaj izuzetno opasni i osjetljivi posao obavljaju radnici "Butmira", koji je bio i glavni izvođač građevinskih radova na Bosmal City Center-u. Rukovodilac sektora mehanizacije GP "Butmira", mašinski inženjer Husein Hasibović kaže da je za demontažu ovog krana planirano 20 povoljnih dana, što znači da temperatura ne smije biti ispod nule, niti smije padati snijeg.

Good Update Timur, hey does anyone have any inforamtion on the parliament Building?

Good Update Timur, hey does anyone have any inforamtion on the parliament Building?


No, not really...There are alot of rumors going around that are saying that it's going to be glass, but we'll see. I hope it does something like that...Anyway's, welcome back Sarajevo-City! :cheers1:

Just to start the Sarajevo-Construction thread going, here are some of the projects that Vranica d.d. is done in Sarajevo.

http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/013.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/014.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/001.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/005.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/images/K30-transferzala.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/images/K-14-transv.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/010.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/003.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/images/Merkator-ograda.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/images/Merkaror-oktobar.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/008.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/images/Most-Otoka-dzam.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/images/V-trans.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/images/AVAZ-finis.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/prodaja-pp-fasada.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/naslovna-1.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/pof1.jpg


Again, these are already shown on EE Forum, just wanted to show them to the real place where they belonged...

Nice update Timur.

cool sarajevo nightlife picture i found on the web...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/TimurTaljanovic/SarajevoNightlife.jpg

Was this a normal night or during something, because I'm curious that the mosque is fully lighted up, but nice picture anyway. :)

No, not really...There are alot of rumors going around that are saying that it's going to be glass, but we'll see. I hope it does something like that...Anyway's, welcome back Sarajevo-City! :cheers1:


I hope it will be glass, when I call Sarajevo I'll ask my cousin he should know something..Thnx Its good to be back, I been busy this past month..Good Pictures^^^ is the 2nd Mercator Finished?

Also I read somewere that they are going to make an American University in Sarajevo for people who lived in the USA and now live in Sarajevo to study there.

Was this a normal night or during something, because I'm curious that the mosque is fully lighted up, but nice picture anyway. :)


the mosque's and some churchs choose to illuminate themselves every night...thank's for liking the picture. :)

I hope it will be glass, when I call Sarajevo I'll ask my cousin he should know something..Thnx Its good to be back, I been busy this past month..Good Pictures^^^ is the 2nd Mercator Finished?

Also I read somewere that they are going to make an American University in Sarajevo for people who lived in the USA and now live in Sarajevo to study there.


hope your cousin has more information, that would be excellent to see what they are exactly doing with the parliment building. i mean, it really wouldn't be much of a big deal if it were a low-rise, but this is more than 20 floors, it deserves some recognition. :)

i found this link about the projects that are from foriegn investments in all of bih. these are just a little of the ones that are going in, but here is the link.

http://www.fipa.gov.ba/projekti_en/projekti%20construction%20industry.pdf

if someone is too lazy to look at the link, it basically summarizes the fact that bih's economy is growing at a fast rate, and that the industrial production of the country is very high rate of growth, and has a even better potential then before.

a huge reconstruction that occured in 1999, that deserves some attention. the fact that it was a big reconstruction really doesn't mean anything, but that it occured when the economy of bosnia and herzegovina was still low, that really shows some skills! :D

Housing Complex Renovation Dobrinja V, Sarajevo/Bosna Herzegovina

Client: Ministry of Foreign Trade & Economic Relations
Contract date & duration: July, 1998, 13 months
Participation: 50 percent
General description: Repair, Rehabilitation and Reconstruction of housing units in Bricko, Mostar, Stolac, Caplina and Neum.
Completion status: Work completion certificate was received on August 30, 1999.
Detailed description: Repair, Rehabilitation and Reconstruction of Dorinja V high-rise complex apartments in Sarajevo. Reconstruction of 59 houses and construction of 34 houses. Total project area is 68,000 sq.m.

BEFORE RECONSTRUCTION:
http://www.borova.com/images/photos/bosna03.jpg
DURING RECONSTRUCTION:
http://www.borova.com/images/photos/bosna06.jpg
AT THE END OF THE PROCESS:
http://www.borova.com/images/photos/bosna01.jpg

http://www.bosmal.com/images/koridor_5c/eurupeEN.jpg

PROJECT CORRIDOR 5C - "NEW DEAL" FOR BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA



Bosmal d.o.o. wants to open up civil engineering sector in Bosnia and Herzegovina through construction of highway on Corridor 5c. This "new deal" for BiH will bring us 330 km of the most modern highway in Europe.

Corridor 5c passes along the route Budapest-Osijek-Sarajevo-Ploce. The highway along this corridor is the most significant roadway in BiH and the shortest communication route between Middle Europe and the Adriatic. The routing of the road passes through the central part of the country in the North-South direction from Donji Svilaj to the border of BiH, north from the port of Ploce, following the rivers Bosna and Neretva. More than 50% of the total population and the economic activity of Bosnia and Herzegovina lies within the zone of influence along this route.

The estimated cost for the construction of the highway is 2.5 billion EUR, which shall be obtained through a consortium of world banks. According to Bosmal's plan and analyses of the world-leading companies in this area, the highway could be built within a period of five years.
Around 20,000 people will be engaged in its construction, together with all the other construction and industrial capacities of Bosnia and Herzegovina. As one of the biggest infrastructure projects, this highway will initiate economic development in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

The highway will shorten the travel time from the coast of Croatia to the River Sava from the current 6-7 hours to only 3 hours.

A month after it was requested by the Council of Ministers of BH, Bosmal d.o.o. has secured a guarantee of EUR 300 million from Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad. These initial funds will be used for the preparation of a feasibility study, design of project documentation and partial land expropriation. Negotiations for a concession period contract with relevant government authorities have already started.

The highway will be constructed using a DBFOT system (Design, Build, Finance, Operate, Transfer). Using this system, the concessionaire secures finance, bears all business risks and upon expiration of the concession period, transfers the highway to the state of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Bosmal has sent a public invitation to all construction companies in Bosnia and Herzegovina to show their interest in participating in the construction of Corridor Vc. After receiving the data, the American company Somerset Trade Finance LLC will help interested companies in obtaining the necessary financial support for procurement of the equipment.

This highway will bring us closer to Europe!

Thats great stuff on the new corridor. This thing is long overdue and they need to build it asap. It will open up Bosnia with better road links to the coast and also Europe.

This project is something well worth keeping an eye on.

Thats great stuff on the new corridor. This thing is long overdue and they need to build it asap. It will open up Bosnia with better road links to the coast and also Europe.

This project is something well worth keeping an eye on.


the project is going to be something that will help bosnia and herzegovina, but i really think that there are more important projects that are going on right now, that seem to have a greater impact on the economy.

just the last 5 new foriegn industries have raised the country's total acount balance almost half of the debt that it had.

anyone have any information on any possible airport expansion for sarajevo international airport? the airport is really nice, and it's really clean, but for the growing population of the country, wouldn't it be best for the airport to expand so it can carry more passengers?

bosmal update...

http://80.65.77.242/kamera3/cam3-2005020107090401.jpg
http://80.65.77.242/kamera1/slika1-2005020107431901.jpg


please excuse the webcam, someone really needs to get it cleaned up...

Actually Malaysia the investor of Bosmal City Center, wanted to install some top of the line technology such as bomb sniffers, one of the best metal detectors, and passager package scanning machines but the previous Bosnian President Zlatko Lagumdzija didnt want to work with Malaysia and nothing happened, Maybe if he did decide to work with them they would of expended the Sarajevo International Airport.

Also I read that Malaysia said that there is going to be another huge investment in Bosnia for another project, they said its going to be a bigger of cost than Bosmal City Center, they said that its not the HighWay just if your wondering ; ).... They didnt say anything about the location but they said that its probably going to be in Sarajevo again. Very Good news for us, maybe its the Unis Tower 3 or something bigger...I cant wait to find out more about it...If I can find the article were I read this I will post it...

Actually Malaysia the investor of Bosmal City Center, wanted to install some top of the line technology such as bomb sniffers, one of the best metal detectors, and passager package scanning machines but the previous Bosnian President Zlatko Lagumdzija didnt want to work with Malaysia and nothing happened, Maybe if he did decide to work with them they would of expended the Sarajevo International Airport.

Also I read that Malaysia said that there is going to be another huge investment in Bosnia for another project, they said its going to be a bigger of cost than Bosmal City Center, they said that its not the HighWay just if your wondering ; ).... They didnt say anything about the location but they said that its probably going to be in Sarajevo again. Very Good news for us, maybe its the Unis Tower 3 or something bigger...I cant wait to find out more about it...If I can find the article were I read this I will post it...

Thats really great news. Sarajevo could do with more office towers.

Thats really great news. Sarajevo could do with more office towers.

i don't think that office towers is the actual deal. we are making plenty of offices all over the place, i really think that we need more residentials. the offices are taking over really, we are making too many businesses which in the long run is good, since it helps the economy, but mabye we should make the residentials alittle more than what we are at this point.

Dont worry. I just say, bang them in wherever. High rise offices and residentials. It would make Sarajevo into the Balkan's Hong Kong. And that would be cool.

Actually Malaysia the investor of Bosmal City Center, wanted to install some top of the line technology such as bomb sniffers, one of the best metal detectors, and passager package scanning machines but the previous Bosnian President Zlatko Lagumdzija didnt want to work with Malaysia and nothing happened, Maybe if he did decide to work with them they would of expended the Sarajevo International Airport.

Also I read that Malaysia said that there is going to be another huge investment in Bosnia for another project, they said its going to be a bigger of cost than Bosmal City Center, they said that its not the HighWay just if your wondering ; ).... They didnt say anything about the location but they said that its probably going to be in Sarajevo again. Very Good news for us, maybe its the Unis Tower 3 or something bigger...I cant wait to find out more about it...If I can find the article were I read this I will post it...

unis 3 would be really nice, but i was hoping that something could be built between the unis twins and the energoinvest, that would cause alittle more density, and then when the parliment building get's fixed up, we would have a really nice modern skyline. :)

anyone have the pictures of the whole reconstruction around the unis/holiday inn? that would be great to see how far they've gotten with everything.

strange website that i found on some projects in sarajevo. they tell you where they are in the pictures. :)


http://www.blindo.ba/balinovac.jpg
http://www.blindo.ba/tropicana.jpg
http://www.blindo.ba/radna.jpg
http://www.blindo.ba/vranica.jpg
http://www.blindo.ba/vukovarska.jpg
http://www.blindo.ba/zaba.jpg
http://www.blindo.ba/ministarka.jpg
http://www.blindo.ba/trzni.jpg
http://www.blindo.ba/jlamela.jpg
http://www.blindo.ba/rba.jpg

WB: NEW EMPLOYMENT PROJECT LAUNCHED FOR BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA

SARAJEVO, February 1 (FENA) - A new employment project for Bosnia and Herzegovina was presented today in Sarajevo, at a workshop which gathered BiH government officials, as well as representatives of employment offices and the World Bank.

Against the background of accelerated privatization and ongoing business environment and labor sector reforms, the Second Employment Support Project (SESP) was requested by and prepared in cooperation with local authorities, in order to mitigate potential social risks through better employment services. The project, worth USD 12 million, will be implemented through the Employment offices and Employment Institutes in partnership with entity Ministries of Labor.

“If more investors are to come to Bosnia and Herzegovina then they need to know that a skilled labor force is available and that the investment climate is good and dynamic. This is important for the country's readiness for EU accession,” the World Bank Country Manager for Bosnia and Herzegovina, Dirk Reinermann, said during the workshop.

"For reforms to proceed as planed in 2005, Bosnia and Herzegovina will of course need well functioning governments at state and entity levels. It is therefore of greatest importance that a new RS government is formed as soon as possible,” he also stressed.

SESP project will provide information on all the possibilities and job opportunities and enable particularly vulnerable groups to take advantage of the country's economy and its prospects. More specifically, the SESP project will assist an estimated 10,000 people who have either been recently retrenched and above 45 years of age and/or those who are actively seeking jobs for two or more years.

The Second Employment Support Project is based on the experience of the recently closed Bank-financed PELRP project that assisted employment of soldiers demobilized in 1999 and 2000. The PELRP project has been able to assist more than 7300 persons with jobs, training and income earning opportunities in agriculture. More than 70 percent of the assisted persons have kept their jobs 2-3 years after receiving assistance under the project. Without direct cash handouts, these persons were assisted through direct job placements, as well as with technical assistance, training and assets.

Council of Europe Will Sponsor Sarajevo Winter Festival 2005

The Secretary General of the Council of Europe, Terry Davis, accepted to sponsor the international Sarajevo Winter 2005 Festival.

The decision to accept the offer to become a sponsor was based on the view of the goals of the Sarajevo Winter Festival, which are identical to the goals and aims of the Council of Europe, especially in the cultural field and promotion and networking of diverse cultures.

The Festival will start on February 7 and will be officially closed on March 21, 2005. Under the official motto “Close, Faraway Neighbours”, it will gather more than 1,000 artists from Bosnia and Herzegovina and the world.

Council of Europe Will Sponsor Sarajevo Winter Festival 2005

The Secretary General of the Council of Europe, Terry Davis, accepted to sponsor the international Sarajevo Winter 2005 Festival.

The decision to accept the offer to become a sponsor was based on the view of the goals of the Sarajevo Winter Festival, which are identical to the goals and aims of the Council of Europe, especially in the cultural field and promotion and networking of diverse cultures.

The Festival will start on February 7 and will be officially closed on March 21, 2005. Under the official motto “Close, Faraway Neighbours”, it will gather more than 1,000 artists from Bosnia and Herzegovina and the world.

Very nice, also the pictures you posted are very nice buildings....Anyone know if they are going to start reconstructing the Alipasino Polje Buildings? There is one building that a Serbian Bomb Hit and broke 3 floors and they are in Orange Blocks and it makes the rest of the building look really ugly so if I was the Government or who ever I would Reconstruct those buildings as well as the construction of skyscrapers.

Did they already start making the 22-Floor Building next to the Holiday Inn?

I found this one a search, I dont know the company name, or exact location but its in sarajevo its a car dealership.

http://www.temaks.hr/Ger/Projekti/idejni%20projekti/HGK%20Sarajevo.jpg



GAZI HUSREV- BEGOVA BIBLIOTEKA, SARAJEVO, BiH

http://www.hidrogradnja.ba/projekti/slike_utoku/Sarajevo/biblioteka/biblioteka1.jpg http://www.hidrogradnja.ba/projekti/slike_utoku/Sarajevo/biblioteka/biblioteka3.jpg

I don't think Anyone has posted these below, if someone did post it before then am sorry about the repost:

http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/HPIM0726_800.jpg
http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/HPIM0727_800.jpg

nice job sarajevo-city! :)

SOme Random Pictures of the Bridge and sorrounding..
http://www.ziksar.com.ba/Slike/Most_V6.jpg http://www.ziksar.com.ba/Slike/Most_V7.jpg http://www.ziksar.com.ba/Slike/Most_V5_2.jpg http://www.ziksar.com.ba/Slike/Most_V5_3.jpg http://www.ziksar.com.ba/Slike/BOSMAL_most3_t.jpg http://www.ziksar.com.ba/Slike/BOSMAL_most2_t.jpg

yes, but the bridge is way ahead of that, and if i am not mistaken, it is completed. those are old photos, but they are good.

does anyone have any information on what they are going to do with the commies in that area? i mean, are they going to re-paint some or is it just going to be left like it is? i can imagine they are going to be repainted, but i'm not completely sure.

sarajevo-city, any knews on the project that bosmal is rumoring about for the new and bigger project than the b.c.c.? you talked about this, and i am getting alittle excited! :)

yes, but the bridge is way ahead of that, and if i am not mistaken, it is completed. those are old photos, but they are good.

does anyone have any information on what they are going to do with the commies in that area? i mean, are they going to re-paint some or is it just going to be left like it is? i can imagine they are going to be repainted, but i'm not completely sure.

sarajevo-city, any knews on the project that bosmal is rumoring about for the new and bigger project than the b.c.c.? you talked about this, and i am getting alittle excited! :)

Yes I think they should Re-Paint all the smaller buildings around the BCC...I have no infromation yet but I will try to find something out, maybe tomorrow I will call my cousin and ask him...He should know, his professor worked on the Design of the BBC..

Yes I think they should Re-Paint all the smaller buildings around the BCC...I have no infromation yet but I will try to find something out, maybe tomorrow I will call my cousin and ask him...He should know, his professor worked on the Design of the BBC..


ok, great! :) can't wait to hear what your cousin says...

Thanks for the pictures Sarajevo-City!

BiH prodala Americi zemljište u Sarajevu
Petak, 04 Februar 2005

Zastupnički dom Parlamentarne skupštine BiH je na jučerašnjoj sjednici u Sarajevu donio Odluku o prodaji dijela zemljišta u okviru bivše kasarne "Maršal Tito" u Sarajevu Sjedinjenim Američkim Državama (SAD) za izgradnju zgrade ambasade.

Radi se o površini od 44.175 kvadratnih metara, a kupoprodajna cijena utvrđena je u iznosu 12.868.503,51 KM.
Zastupnici su najviše raspravljali o namjeni sredstava ostvarenih prodajom ovog zemljišta.

Ministrica financija i trezora BiH Ljerka Marić je kazala da u ovoj odluci nije predloženo kako bi se rasporedila sredstva ostvarena prodajom te da će to biti regulirano posebnom odlukom koju će donijeti Vijeće ministara BiH.

-SuperBosna.com

I wanna see hows that gonna end up looking!

hopefully it will be something like 10-15 floors. :)

Guys is there anyone who has his own Bosmal City Center's pictures. I would like to add those pictures to Emporis and i won't use my name for that pictures but the name of the author. So wait a reply from you.

Guys is there anyone who has his own Bosmal City Center's pictures. I would like to add those pictures to Emporis and i won't use my name for that pictures but the name of the author. So wait a reply from you.

the earliest i can get you the picture, is in the summer when i get my digital camera. :) mabye someone else could get one by then and take some pictures...

:lol: You said you would post on your way to school too. :D

:lol: You said you would post on your way to school too. :D


there is no need to talk of lies. i did say that i was going to take a pictures of what i pass by on a normal day, when i get my digital camera, but there is no reason for you to talk about the things you and i have talked about on msn messenger. that is very rude. :ohno:

Ah to bad, you said last summer you d get digicam this winter :(

Ah to bad, you said last summer you d get digicam this winter :(

yes, well...they are called finances my friend, finances. :D

07.02.2005 (21:25)

FESTIVAL "SARAJEVO WINTER 2005" OPENED


SARAJEVO, February 7 (FENA) – For the 21st time, the International Festival Sarajevo “Sarajevo Winter 2005” was opened on Monday evening at park At Mejdan with a ceremony realized as a labyrinth of the modern age with twenty one art gardens. The Festival under the motto “Close distant neighbors” will conclude on March 21.

Despite the very cold weather, artists from 15 countries and seven BiH towns at 21 gardens have presented their works, cultures, performances, and ideas.

The art moderator of the ceremony was Jusuf Hadzifejzovic, while Marijela Margeta was in charge of the scenography. The visitors through the gardens of art were led by Boris Siber and Maja Salkic together with the Sarajevo Drum Orchestra from the Music Pavilion.

Director of the Festival “Sarajevo Winter” Ibrahim Spahic, after “surfacing the secret treasure” from river Miljacka – the Sarajevo natural water, as a symbol of BiH’s great natural wealth, officially proclaimed the Festival open.

Artists from 39 countries of the world will present themselves to the Sarajevo public through various programmes, concerts, plays and exhibits within the Festival.

Ten percent from each sold ticket for the programmes of the Festival is intended for the victims of tsunami in Southeast Asia.

(Fena) jc

07.02.2005 (21:25)

FESTIVAL "SARAJEVO WINTER 2005" OPENED


SARAJEVO, February 7 (FENA) – For the 21st time, the International Festival Sarajevo “Sarajevo Winter 2005” was opened on Monday evening at park At Mejdan with a ceremony realized as a labyrinth of the modern age with twenty one art gardens. The Festival under the motto “Close distant neighbors” will conclude on March 21.

Despite the very cold weather, artists from 15 countries and seven BiH towns at 21 gardens have presented their works, cultures, performances, and ideas.

The art moderator of the ceremony was Jusuf Hadzifejzovic, while Marijela Margeta was in charge of the scenography. The visitors through the gardens of art were led by Boris Siber and Maja Salkic together with the Sarajevo Drum Orchestra from the Music Pavilion.

Director of the Festival “Sarajevo Winter” Ibrahim Spahic, after “surfacing the secret treasure” from river Miljacka – the Sarajevo natural water, as a symbol of BiH’s great natural wealth, officially proclaimed the Festival open.

Artists from 39 countries of the world will present themselves to the Sarajevo public through various programmes, concerts, plays and exhibits within the Festival.

Ten percent from each sold ticket for the programmes of the Festival is intended for the victims of tsunami in Southeast Asia.

(Fena) jc

Nice find...its nice to see there festivals in sarajevo! *lets go back to Topic*

My little contribution to this thread....Avaz Tower at night:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/CrazySerb/avaztower.jpg

awsome picture, thanks alot km. :)

Thats a really great Avaz picture..


Uređenje enterijera

http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-stropovi3.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-stropovi2.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-stropovi1.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-stropovi4.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-vrata1.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-vrata2.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-keramika2.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-keramika5.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-keramika6.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-hodnici3.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-ppvrata3.jpg

It is great that Bosmal has very good site with lot of construction pics :) unlike some other investors :(

Avaz Business Center has opened its doors on 10th February, with a really great gala opening. I just wanted to eliminate confusion concerning revolving restaurant on the top of the building. As I am employee of company Energoinvest-Comet, which had successfuly designed and produced the first revolving restaurant on Balkan, here is photo which clearly shows where the restaurant realy is. Restaurant is also called as "rose".

http://www.energoinvest-comet.co.ba/avaz.jpg

Regards,
Enis Begovic

Great pictures, Enis! Do you know how many m2 Avaz tower has and how much money costed construction?

BTW welcome to forum!

enis, welcome to the forum, and i hope that you can get us some nice projects going on this thread. again, welcome, and enjoy your stay. :)

btw, does anyone know how tall the avaz building is? :dunno:

enis, welcome to the forum, and i hope that you can get us some nice projects going on this thread. again, welcome, and enjoy your stay. :)

btw, does anyone know how tall the avaz building is? :dunno:

Welcome Enis those were great pictures and very new! :) , I think its like maybe 11-16 floors... dont know the exact size number!

if avaz has been much higher, it would look much better :)

small visualisation from me
http://www.wiesbaden-team.de/ava.jpg

wow, nice job stevan. :) you are pretty good with photoshop. :)

anyway's...you are right...if avaz building was taller, it would look alot better, but i still think that it is pretty modern and interesting at the moment. :)

^^ thank you

btw.

is Zebulon Boettge male or female ??

^^ thank you

btw.

is Zebulon Boettge male or female ??


um...male?

if avaz has been much higher, it would look much better :)

small visualisation from me
http://www.wiesbaden-team.de/ava.jpg

It would look better actually, nice photoshop skill!

The restaurant seems nice. Too bad about the view.. not much beauty in Novi Grad.

The restaurant seems nice. Too bad about the view.. not much beauty in Novi Grad.


i always thought that novi grad had some nice buildings.

here are two pictures that bimmer - sa took in the old sarajevo construction thread, and i would like to post them in the new one.
nice pictures bimmer - sa, we all hope to see more. :)

http://img125.exs.cx/img125/5692/bosmalmagla4qv.jpg
http://img125.exs.cx/img125/9775/bosmalopet4zg.jpg

thank You very much for greetings

here are some answers and additional informations:
towers has 13.000 m2 surface, 14 floors + 1 floor restaurant
building is 60 meters tall.
16.000.000 EUR is cost of this project.

there is a realy realy great book published by AVAZ, with photograph made by Fuad Foco, photographer, who spent 700 days photographing every little progress of construction work. At this moment I do have only one copy of book, and there is no chance that I could tear papers from it for scanning. My scanner is with ADF :(. I hope that soon I will get additional copies of book.

There are many interesting informations about this bulding. The most risky job was to clear the bulding site from non-exploded bombs and granades left from war. 6390 m3 of concrete, 1.056 tons of armature, 112 tons of thermoreflective glass, 100 tons of aluminium and 4000 m2 of granitt, 200.000 meters of elctrical cable, 3300 m2 of gyps was spent in construction. Rotating restaurant platform is 24 m in diameter.

And most intereseting information is that I heard about this great web site from above mentioned book, which says that photographs of towers are travelling around the world :) There is also link to "www.usefilm.com"

we have a request for construction of new and bigger rotating restaurant somewhere in Zagreb.

BTW. nice job Stevan

bye
enis

note: those people from Sarajevo may contact me if someone wants to see this book, and I heard that on 18th February Friday, AVAZ will publish some 80 pages about towers together with newspaper.

thank You very much for greetings

note: those people from Sarajevo may contact me if someone wants to see this book, and I heard that on 18th February Friday, AVAZ will publish some 80 pages about towers together with newspaper.

A while ago my grandfather send me some Avaz News papers and one was like a special edition on the New construction sites going on in Sarajevo and I promised TImur that I will find it and I still havent but am looking for it. It has some interesting construction projects such as these new Apartment Buildings that will be build in Ilidza its going to be something like Alipasino Polje and Vojnicko Polje but much nicer and modern! Also anyone got any information on the parliament building and that new olympic swimming pool?

I found these two pictures of the parliement building and I have a question....

As you can see in this picture some of the facade is still there, is this like right after the war, or ??? (http://mishuna.image.pbase.com/u37/alangrant/upload/24331120.bosnia10.jpg

As you can see here the facade is completely take off, which if my prediction is correct means that they are going to start to reconstruct the building..or did they just remove the broken facade for safety purpose? this building is going to look really great in that glass facade.)
http://www.geocities.com/marius_ronnett/saraj-parlamentx.jpg

I wish they can put on this type of facade (Light blue type)
http://www.ny-photos.com/images/704/2/united_nations_544.jpg

sarajevo-city, from what i know, they seem to be approaching the reconstruction of the building. you have done a really nice job with that, and i congradulate you for finding such nice examples. :)

as for the light-blue type of glass, i was thinking that it may be better if the building was in dark blue glass. the light blue does look very nice, but if it were dark blue glass, it would reflect more at night...

i REALLY can't wait to see what they are doing with the building. :)

an article about sarajevo parliment building reconstruction.

[11] Greece plans to rebuild bombed Sarajevo parliament building
Athens, 06/09/2002 (ANA)
Greece plans to rebuild a bombed parliament building in Sarajevo as part of the country's five-year Balkan reconstruction plan, worth 550 million euros, Deputy Foreign Minister Andreas Loverdos said on Thursday.
The project has a symbolic meaning for Greece, which is why the government is seeking to undertake construction of the building single-handed, Loverdos told a monitoring committee for the national Balkan plan.

The first project under the program is likely to be launched this year, and that project may be the Sarajevo parliament building, Loverdos said.

He called on Greek engineering contractors to show interest in the country's Balkan scheme, complaining that they had so far shown little interest.

They removed the broken facade as a part of the reconstruction.

Isn't the Parliament building the last war landmark?

Great updates on Sarajevo guys!

BTW - Welcome Enis to the forum. :)

Uvijek sam mislio da Sarajevo ima dobru priliku da izgradi lijepu skyline. Mislim, bilo bi prilično lahko.. već imamo dva Unitec nebodera, (80 metara), i zgradu parlamenta (60 metara?). Tri fine i prilično visoke zgrade. Sad ima tu prostora za još jedan neboder... možda čak i dva. Zar se neće dodati još jedna zgrada Uniteca i dodatak Holliday Innu? Ako je tako onda evo imamo 4-6 prilično visokih zgrada na jednom mjestu. Moglo bi se srušiti jedno-dvoje ružnih zgrada na Marijinom dvoru... a onda ima ono parkiralište pored Vrbanje. Da bi se dodalo dva nebodera od 100+ metara visine imali bi najbolji skyline na balkanu. Vjerujem da bi Marijin dvor mogao biti mali neboderski distrikt.

Evo vidite ovdje o čemu govorim. Između gornjeg Uniteca i Holliday Inna ima taman mjesta za još jednu zgradu Unitecove površine. Da bi se srušile one zgrade pored tog trokuta imalo bi još prostora za jedan veliki neboder. Naravno trebalo bi se naći novo mjesto gdje bi stanovnici tih zgrada mogli živiti..

http://www.nato.int/sfor/misc/sarshots/b000721i.jpg

Zamislite ovu dole sliku sa još par nebodera.

http://www.ablogslife.com/blog/images/DSC02616-1.jpg

Uvijek sam mislio da Sarajevo ima dobru priliku da izgradi lijepu skyline. Mislim, bilo bi prilično lahko.. već imamo dva Unitec nebodera, (80 metara), i zgradu parlamenta (60 metara?). Tri fine i prilično visoke zgrade. Sad ima tu prostora za još jedan neboder... možda čak i dva. Zar se neće dodati još jedna zgrada Uniteca i dodatak Holliday Innu? Ako je tako onda evo imamo 4-6 prilično visokih zgrada na jednom mjestu. Moglo bi se srušiti jedno-dvoje ružnih zgrada na Marijinom dvoru... a onda ima ono parkiralište pored Vrbanje. Da bi se dodalo dva nebodera od 100+ metara visine imali bi najbolji skyline na balkanu. Vjerujem da bi Marijin dvor mogao biti mali neboderski distrikt.

the unitecs are 2X of 95 meters, not 80. the parliment building is about 80 meters...

btw, this picture is old, since i've seen a new picture from a different forum in which the area was cleaned up, and the area in which your talking about is getting ready for something else. it doesn't look completely different, but there are alot of differences from this photo to the one i saw, which i stupidly didn't save. :(

this is the picture i am taking about. :)
http://www.nato.int/sfor/misc/sarshots/b000721i.jpg
and yes, sarajevo already has the perfect set-up for it's skyline, all it need is to fill it in with alittle more. if the other two unitecs get built, which the chances are growing more and more, then of course it's going to be an extremely nice skyline.
http://www.ablogslife.com/blog/images/DSC02616-1.jpg

I wish the new unitecs would be as tall as USCE. We need some 120 meter + skyscrapers, not just 4 90 meters. It's nice to dream..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/Potentialskyline.jpg

what was the project that is going to be placed right across from the holiday inn? wasn't it something like 20-22 floors?

I wish the new unitecs would be as tall as USCE. We need some 120 meter + skyscrapers, not just 4 90 meters. It's nice to dream..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/Potentialskyline.jpg

if two builds were built between the parliment and the unitecs, that would just be awsome. :) i am sure that they will be built, since there is a high need for offices, even though they are already being built everywhere...

edit: too bad the bosmals were built out there, they would have had an awsome addition to the skyline. :)

I wish the new unitecs would be as tall as USCE. We need some 120 meter + skyscrapers, not just 4 90 meters. It's nice to dream..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/Potentialskyline.jpg

I agree with you on the Sarajevo skyline. Definately the best in ex-Yu. Its clearly obvious with the image above. I think there are another 2 more planned for that cluster.

I agree with you on the Sarajevo skyline. Definately the best in ex-Yu. Its clearly obvious with the image above. I think there are another 2 more planned for that cluster.


well, yes...sarajevo probably does have the best skyline in ex-yugo, and that is most understandable. it's pretty dam crouded, and with some crouding, and no high limit, why not build more highrises than anything else?

Is the 20-22 floor tower they plan to build next to the Holiday Inn in anyway related to the hotel itself? The reason I ask is because a few months ago I read that the Holiday Inn in Sarajevo changed its management from Alpha Baumanagment (probably not correct spelling) to an Italian firm. If it's not connected in any way to the hotel, then the project should still go ahead, but if it is, there is a risk it might not happen. Let's hope that the Italian firm decides to accept this investment and carry through with it.

edit: Nevermind they both are involved in the management of the hotel but for two completely different things. So there is hope. :cheers:

I agree with you on the Sarajevo skyline. Definately the best in ex-Yu. Its clearly obvious with the image above. I think there are another 2 more planned for that cluster.

lol, SinCity, that's not the actual skyline. It's an edited image. This is how it actually looks like:

http://www.ablogslife.com/blog/images/DSC02616-1.jpg

But I'd still argue Sarajevo has the best, because we have most of our tallest so close together.

if two builds were built between the parliment and the unitecs, that would just be awsome. :) i am sure that they will be built, since there is a high need for offices, even though they are already being built everywhere...

edit: too bad the bosmals were built out there, they would have had an awsome addition to the skyline. :)

You can't do that because between the parlimaent and the Unitecs you have one of the city's two major streets.

And Bosmal's are basically updated commieblocks. I'd trade them for USCE any day to be honest.. they just wouldn't fit next to the UNITECs.

You can't do that because between the parlimaent and the Unitecs you have one of the city's two major streets.

And Bosmal's are basically updated commieblocks. I'd trade them for USCE any day to be honest.. they just wouldn't fit next to the UNITECs.

yes, i also think that the unitecs are better, but the bosmals in my opinion are also very impressive.

lol, SinCity, that's not the actual skyline. It's an edited image. This is how it actually looks like:

http://www.ablogslife.com/blog/images/DSC02616-1.jpg

But I'd still argue Sarajevo has the best, because we have most of our tallest so close together.

LOL, so how stupid was I? :D:D:D

Anyway, thats pretty good. Had me really fooled.

P.S. - I cant stop laughing about it. :D

LOL, so how stupid was I? :D:D:D


well, unless you've never seen an eastern european city, pretty dam stupid. ;) :D :jk:

well, unless you've never seen an eastern european city, pretty dam stupid. ;) :D :jk:

LOL ;)

I wish the new unitecs would be as tall as USCE. We need some 120 meter + skyscrapers, not just 4 90 meters. It's nice to dream..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/Potentialskyline.jpg

well, it isn't such a far fetched dream! In Sarajevo and especially at downtown, there is just one way to go and that is up!

The economy just needs to pick up and we'll see some buildings rise.

BUT it' such a shame that Bosmals were build in Hrasno and not downtown, otherwise you would already have that skyline.

I think that the 22 floor tower is going to add a nice look to the skyline, also once they reconstruct the parliament building its going to look much nicer. But it would be ncie to see more buildings like the UNitec and some higher ones...A lot of countries are investing and buildings buildings in sarajevo. Such as Austria, Germany and USA...I think by like 2020 Sarajevo should have more than 6-8 20+ added around the UNITEC. Are they going to make the 3rd Unitec building? any news on that? It would be nice if they start making buildings from UNitec to the Avaz (new one) so they can kind of connect the area and make skyscrapers, that would be awesome. It would of been nice if Avaz was more closer to the Unitec..Also if Greece makes the parliament building then I think there could be a chance that they will do like a weird Old Style building not a glass facade or maybe am wrong.

Honestly If I was the person in charge now I would blow this building up, (Next to Avaz) and make something like a skyscraper like Unitec, glass facade would be awesome, I dont think anyone is going to actually guy this crap and re construct it..but what was this anyways before the war?

This Building:
http://www.planquez.co.uk/Tour_Pics/Sarajevo/sar_05.jpg

I was wondering if anyone has any picture/s of the old Oslobodjenje building that is Avaz now?

Bosmal Update:
Staklena školjka restorana
http://bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-restoran2.jpg
http://bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-restoran.jpg

Nice Avaz Picture, also I heard that Oslobodjenje is going to reconstruct there part of the building (Left of avaz on Picture)

http://www.afasici.net/papuasia/saraj/med-014b.JPG

I dont think anyone is going to actually guy this crap and re construct it..but what was this anyways before the war?

This Building:
http://www.planquez.co.uk/Tour_Pics/Sarajevo/sar_05.jpg


Home for the elderly. I think it was the first one ever in BiH of that type. Build JUST before the war, I don't think it was even being used yet.
Really tragic actually.

Oslobodjenje on fire after being shelled...

http://rbih.topcities.com/imagesOfWar/oslobodjenjeFire.jpeg

On the Parliament and Greece issue. I'm not sure Sarajevo/Bosnia should be all too happy with Greece wanting to take on the symbolic act since their role in the war was fishy, at least.

At least they're symbolically helping Sarajevo instead of Slobomir :laugh:

On the Parliament and Greece issue. I'm not sure Sarajevo/Bosnia should be all too happy with Greece wanting to take on the symbolic act since their role in the war was fishy, at least.

Yes I agree with you 100%, I think in my opinion, its the bosnian government our country and we should be able to take care of our own parliament building.

Oslobodjenje on Fire (seemed like a nice building, I have no memory of it at all even though I lived in Sarajevo and was born there)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/oslobodjenjeFire.jpg

I love this Picture of the Unis Towers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/sb030821l.jpg

At least they're symbolically helping Sarajevo instead of Slobomir :laugh:

Slobo is already symbolically helping himself and his ego... ;)

But seriously, it seems Greece is gonna do the job but there isn't really a progress. After they took off the facade it all stopped. What? Greece ran out of money? They are messing their symbolic act up. :sleepy:

Does anyone know why the Parliament Building has taken so long to repair?

Is it facade damage or structural damage??

Does anyone know why the Parliament Building has taken so long to repair?

Is it facade damage or structural damage??

I think its something that should of been re constructed years ago...! I think its because of money, greece says its going to do it and they took off the facade like spotlessmind said and now nothing is happening. Hopefully they will finish it by 2006. Honestly Bosnia should of payed for this not Greece!

I think its something that should of been re constructed years ago...! I think its because of money, greece says its going to do it and they took off the facade like spotlessmind said and now nothing is happening. Hopefully they will finish it by 2006. Honestly Bosnia should of payed for this not Greece!

I agree. This building is representative of all Bosnia. I think Bosnia should give them a deadline or take over the reconstruction themselves. It can be done rather than this silly time wasting.

I agree. This building is representative of all Bosnia. I think Bosnia should give them a deadline or take over the reconstruction themselves. It can be done rather than this silly time wasting.

Yes I agree, We fixed like 85% of the buildings but not the parliament, thats an embarrassment!

Does anyone know if they are gonna Re COnstruct this building? Looks pretty Ugly !

http://www.visavisproductions.com/images/novosarajevo2.jpg

Anyway, this was something I posted last year on 2 big projects for Sarajevo. It would be cool if we could get more info. Do any of you guys check the Bosnian daily newspapers? There should be a daily section on the goings on of Sarajevo city and there might be news of such projects reported here if you know what I mean.

BBI Commercial Centre

Currently one of Bosnia's biggest banks BBI is set to construct a large office complex on the site of the former "Saralija Department Store" in downtown Sarajevo. To be known as the BBI Business Centre, the complex will total in size of approximately 56,000sqm and will consist of the following components ......

5 level podium that will include on top 3 seperate buildings of various heights including 5, 6 & 12 levels.

This basically means that there will be a 10, 11 & 17 level towers in the complex. :)

The complex should be complete by mid 2007 with work comencing this year on the demolition of the former Sarajka Deptartment Store.

News from Oslobodenje newspaper .......

BBI banci izdata urbanistička saglasnost 24-sep-2004

Biznis-centar na mjestu Sarajke

BBI banka u četvrtak je dobila urbanističku saglasnost za izgradnju biznis-centra na mjestu nekadašnje robne kuće Sarajka.

Očekuje se da do kraja godine bude izdata i dozvola za rušenje Sarajke, a na proljeće započne gradnja BBI biznis-centra. Ukoliko se sve bude dešavalo po planu, rekao je direktor BBI banke Andre Van Hove, radovi će biti završeni do proljeća 2007. godine, kada bi Sarajevo trebalo dobiti atraktivan poslovni centar. Novi objekt biće površine 56 hiljada kvadratnih metara, dok je postojeći objekat imao površinu od 17 hiljada kvadrata. "Prema riječima kantonalnog ministra prostornog uređenja i zaštite okoliša Zlatka Petrovića, objekt će u jednom dijelu imati pet plus pet spratova, u drugom pet plus šest spratova, te toranj spratnosti pet plus, dvanaest, što je usvojeno kao urbanistički projekt.

Grand Media Hotel and Conventional Center Sarajevo

Secondly work is also set to commence on another office tower for Sarajevo. The project will to be called Grand Media Hotel and Conventional Center Sarajevo will include a new 22 level office tower next to the Sarajevo Holiday Inn which was purchased late last year by Austrian company Alpha Baumanagement. The new project will be financed by on of the largest regional banks Hypo Alpe-Adria.

Source form Hypo Alpe-Adria Banks website ......

Cantonal Privatisation Agency and Austrian company Alpha Baumanagement signed the Contract on Sale and Purchase of the Sarajevo hotel Holiday Inn

The official ceremony of signing the Contract on Sale and Purchase by the Cantonal Privatisation Agency and the company Alpha Baumanagement from Villach, Austria was held on Monday, 10 November 2003, with the beginning at 2 p.m., in Sarajevo. The signing of this Contract marked officialy the result of the tender on sale of the Holiday Inn hotel. The aforementioned Austrian company was the only bidder and consequently the winner of the tender. The company Alpha Baumanagement is in this project supported by Hypo–Alpe-Adria Holding, which is represented in Bosnia and Herzegovina by Hypo-Alpe-Adria-Consultants Sarajevo.

The Holiday Inn hotel was sold for KM 44.5 mil.

The company Alpha Baumanagement represented after the signing ceremony its project ''Hotel Grand Media'' Ljubljana. The most modern world standards from the catering field are being applied in the construction of this hotel. The similar standards should be applied for the future project of Holiday Inn hotel. Alpha Baumanagement plans to enlarge the existing accommodation and catering capacities for additional 35 000 m2. The project of capacities enlargement and improvement envisages also the construction of 22-floor tower, including two presidential floors, business suite, de luxe suites, wellness and fitness centre (swimming-pools, saunas etc.) with Western standards applied, gastronomic market zone and a large above-ground garage with the capacity of 700 vehicles. The centre will be named Grand Media Hotel & Convention Centre Sarajevo.
In addition to the amount of KM 44,5 mil. paid for purchasing the Holiday Inn hotel, the company plans to invest another KM 77,5 mil. for the hotel advancement and deployment of 800 - 1000 new employees.

“Hypo Alpe-Adria Group has already been pronounced the largest investor in BiH, but nevertheless it is still eager to invest in the region. Large amounts of money will certainly be put into tourism. It is worth mentioning that Hypo Alpe-Adria Group has been engaged in the projects, which connect the countries of the Alpe-Adria region and brings them closer to modern Western standards, what is the final goal of the state of BiH.” – said the director of Hypo Alpe-Adria-Consultants, Mr. Alexandra Petritz.

There is also plans for a 3rd Unitec Tower!

Yes I agree, We fixed like 85% of the buildings but not the parliament, thats an embarrassment!

Does anyone know if they are gonna Re COnstruct this building? Looks pretty Ugly !

http://www.visavisproductions.com/images/novosarajevo2.jpg

Is this residential or business?

Does anyone know how they are going with this project?

Alberto reported on this last year and its expected to be finished in June this year .....

Terme Catez to Invest Almost EUR 30m in Sarajevo Spa

The Terme Catez spa continues its efforts to expand the Sarajevo Terme Ilidza, in which the Slovenian company controls a 90-percent stake. As Terme said on Friday, 13 February, all is set for the construction of a water park estimated at SIT 3.4bn (EUR 14.3m).

The entire investment in Ilidza is to amount to SIT 7bn (EUR 29.5m). Outdoor pools are to open as early as this summer, while indoor facilities will be ready to receive guests in autumn. Terme Ilidza will also offer a tropical garden with a restaurant and other accompanying facilities.

The second stage of the project, to be launched in 2005, includes the construction of a hotel, a congress centre, a beauty and medical centre and sports facilities stretching over 170,000 square metres.

The Sarajevo spa will be using a thermal water spring at Ilidza.

Source: Slovene Press Agency STA

First construction phase of the Ilidza water park will be completed in June 2005. Second phase include construction of the hotel. All complex after will look something like that on the photo below and it will include summer and winter swimming pools with waves, toboggans and etc.

http://www.terme-catez.si/img/velike/vodni/zimska/bazennepravilnih/stari_del.jpg

Does anyone know how they are going with this project?

Alberto reported on this last year and its expected to be finished in June this year .....



First construction phase of the Ilidza water park will be completed in June 2005. Second phase include construction of the hotel. All complex after will look something like that on the photo below and it will include summer and winter swimming pools with waves, toboggans and etc.

http://www.terme-catez.si/img/velike/vodni/zimska/bazennepravilnih/stari_del.jpg

I think with this they are going to make a while residential apartment complex in Illidza, they had it in the Avaz once and it looked beutiful..The building I posted is Residential! ...Would be nice if they re constructed it though!

If that building is war damage then I am sure it will get fixed up. I cant really tell from the image if there is anything wrong with it. Is there fire damage to it?

If that building is war damage then I am sure it will get fixed up. I cant really tell from the image if there is anything wrong with it. Is there fire damage to it?

Well Half of the Windows on the Right side are gone completely!

Yes I agree, We fixed like 85% of the buildings but not the parliament, thats an embarrassment!

Does anyone know if they are gonna Re COnstruct this building? Looks pretty Ugly !

http://www.visavisproductions.com/images/novosarajevo2.jpg

Where is that? I mean I see it's Novo Sarajevo but what part? Either way, it's very representative of everything that's bad about Novo Sarajevo and Novi Grad.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/bosmal.jpg http://mornar.no-ip.com/pics/sa/elektop.jpg Thats a nice building looks like the electricity building (far left) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/DSC00610.jpg

last time that i saw this area, it was fixed up if i remember correctly. :) the building was still u/c when i last saw it, but the area around it was completely fixed up. :)

http://www.visavisproductions.com/images/novosarajevo2.jpg

last time that i saw this area, it was fixed up if i remember correctly. :) the building was still u/c when i last saw it, but the area around it was completely fixed up. :)

http://www.visavisproductions.com/images/novosarajevo2.jpg

Hey Whats up Timur, Oh thats awesome news, I cant wait until they start reconstructing the Alipasino Polje Buildings!

wouldn't if be good if the parliment building was dark blue glass? i have a poor example of what it would look like. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/TimurTaljanovic/Sarajevo27modified.jpg

wouldn't if be good if the parliment building was dark blue glass? i have a poor example of what it would look like. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/TimurTaljanovic/Sarajevo27modified.jpg

Thats pretty good bro! I will try to get one of my friend to photoshop the building up close in dark blue glass..hopefully he can do it by next Week..But thats a nice picture u did...what did u use?

Thats pretty good bro! I will try to get one of my friend to photoshop the building up close in dark blue glass..hopefully he can do it by next Week..But thats a nice picture u did...what did u use?


what did i use? well, ever heard of the most expensive program out there, it's called MICROSOFT PAINT. :D :rofl:

i feel soo embarresed...

wow, the parlament would look amazing like that .. thanks sarajevo city! :D

what did i use? well, ever heard of the most expensive program out there, it's called MICROSOFT PAINT. :D :rofl:

i feel soo embarresed...

Thats pretty good if you used MS Paint to fix it up. But it really shows the impact on Sarajevo's skyline if the Parliament was repaired. I wish they would speed it up.

pfft, who needs Photoshop. Too complicated for me. I do all my editing in paint, and I mean it worked well enough to trick SinCity.

Anyways, the parliament building would look great with that glass.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/Potentialskyline.jpg

Thats pretty good bro! I will try to get one of my friend to photoshop the building up close in dark blue glass..hopefully he can do it by next Week..But thats a nice picture u did...what did u use?


i like your avatar, but have you seen mine lately!? :D

Where is that? I mean I see it's Novo Sarajevo but what part? Either way, it's very representative of everything that's bad about Novo Sarajevo and Novi Grad.

http://www.visavisproductions.com/images/novosarajevo2.jpg



That building is across the Elektroprivreda Building and near Mercator. It's residential and while the area has been fixed the building has not. However, they have put in new windows but the facade is still as it is.

Home for the elderly. I think it was the first one ever in BiH of that type. Build JUST before the war, I don't think it was even being used yet.
Really tragic actually.

This thing is currently 'used' by a bunch of homeless and gypsies. It used to be a nice sight when it was built, but I guess now the city authorities aren't really sure what to do with those people 'living' there so some kind of status quo is (unfortunately) still being preserved. I would say that issues of this kind are one of the biggest problems in BiH when it comes to (re-)construction.
As far as the new buiding of this BBI bank (which really exists only on paper still) is concerned, I remember that there was some 'ideological' dabate on how this place (and the whole square arond it) should look like. It will be located on one of the most prominent spots donwtown after all. I'm not sure how the whole story ended. Does anyone know?


:cheers:

as I said that I will try to get an upclose image of the parliament building hopefully in glass facade...well here it is...Not that Good but atleast it shows you how it can look..

http://img214.exs.cx/img214/9540/sarairemake6vu.jpg

Little More realistic...

http://img113.exs.cx/img113/2462/newold6eg.th.jpg

Like before
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/drailkast/buildingwithglass-green.jpg

Not Bad:
http://people.alfred.edu/~rlb4/images/Garconis/saraj-parlamentx.jpg



There you go, enjoy! Hey TImur that avatar is awesome!

Nice pictures. The pre-war look is probably the best fit for the building itself but the last one would look best next to the Unitec towers.

By the way, I was wondering, who here will be visiting Sarajevo this summer? Just out of curiousity.

I'll probably be stopping by mid summer.

Vlada KS nastaviće u ovoj godini gradnju Ginekološko akušerske i Pedijatrijske klinike na Jezeru, čiju je obnovu započela u prošloj godini. Za ovaj projekat je uloženo četiri miliona KM i objekat će za mjesec biti građevinski zatvoren. "U budžetu KS ove godine smo planirali 1,9 miliona i dodatnih četiri miliona dolara koje očekujemo od turskog granta, čime planiramo završiti građevinske i zanatske radove na objektu. Pored toga počela je izgradnja kampusa, objekta površine 560 kvadratnih metara, kapaciteta deset do petnaest korisnika", kazao je premijer Kantona Sarajevo Denis Zvizdić, ističući da ove godine očekuju izgradnju najsavremenijeg Centra urgentne medicine. Za taj projekat Vlada KS je izdvojila 1,6 miliona KM. Premijer Zvizdić je najavio početak izgradnje savremene kardiohirurgije te završnu fazu formiranja kompletne mreže izgradnje ambulanti na području KS.

those were awsome pictures sarajevo-city! :) btw, thanks for the compliment on the avatar. :D

i'd like it to look like this the most. :)
http://people.alfred.edu/~rlb4/images/Garconis/saraj-parlamentx.jpg

Tnx! Hey Is the Bristol Hotel Underconstruction? Because when I was in Sarajevo in 2001 they had the cranes up but nothing was happening..How tall is the Bristol, looks like a good high rise building! With a Glass Facade its going to make the skyline stand out even more...

Tnx! Hey Is the Bristol Hotel Underconstruction? Because when I was in Sarajevo in 2001 they had the cranes up but nothing was happening..How tall is the Bristol, looks like a good high rise building! With a Glass Facade its going to make the skyline stand out even more...

Yeah it's going through reconstruction I'm pretty sure. 16 floors, but not sure about the height.

http://www.lupiga.com/putopisi/slike/20040205172133sarajevo_bristol.jpg

Keep the pictures coming! :applause:

The Bosnian Parliament would look nice clad in glass. But I think a clear glass would look the best. Its more of a trend these days. Hopefully they fix the square up at the front too. Make it better looking.

SaRaJeVo-City, nice render BTW! :okay:

Interesting that parliament building is not low and monumental, but skyscraper. Does anyone know any simmilar example somewhere else in Europe?

WOW, it looks like Sarajevo has the skyline. :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/DSC00610.jpg

If the glass facade goes up hopefully soon, are they going to put it on the second part of the building too?

http://img83.exs.cx/img83/4343/sarajremake7xi.jpg

Looks good. But a really nice square out the front would make it look heaps batter. Something with a central monument.

Looks good. But a really nice square out the front would make it look heaps batter. Something with a central monument.


well, in some areas that would be a good idea, but in other i don't think so. the square would need alot of room in that area, and i personally think there isn't enough infront of the parliment building to have a "nice" square...mabye something will work out...we'll see...:)

I think this will be very interesting for all of you to see. It clearly shows how Sarajevo was damaged and destroyed during the war. Comapre it to present pictures and you have woow factor.

http://img32.exs.cx/img32/7376/0000hh.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Below is one picture that i have posted before but i'm doing it again for the people who didn't see it. It shows Bosmal and some parts of new sarajevo in background.

http://img198.exs.cx/img198/5051/new2cj.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

nice job bimmer-sa! :)

Yes sarajevo (BOsnia) has done something I think no one else did, we re constructed most of the city and it seems like there was never a war there!

Yes sarajevo (BOsnia) has done something I think no one else did, we re constructed most of the city and it seems like there was never a war there!


well, yes...let's get back on topic. ;)

sorry to interrupt this topic for a tiny bit...Timur Taljanovic, you still havent answered my message regarding that cover song of Novi Fosili :)

sorry to interrupt this topic for a tiny bit...Timur Taljanovic, you still havent answered my message regarding that cover song of Novi Fosili :)

you sent me a private message? :dunno:

Yeah, i did like a week ago, i will resend it to ya then :) and i'll post some cool images of Sarajevo in order to redeem myself for being 'rude' to spoil this thread chatting ;) :)

Some recent images of this beautiful city :)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/6452/96934759qutusfph5vw.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9175/163396255kwgmuaph5jl.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/7343/179794360jejrdmph6qr.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/163/179820353apmddaph1ln.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/7831/201216004yeoiojph5gs.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/3348/204205753kgehnaph3ix.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/8082/209263530rtcnnlph2xy.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/5368/209282643gpqdzdph3nv.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Vienna or Sarajevo ? ;) :)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/1144/232729169crgxwuph8gs.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/6782/197891171brqaczph4ts.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/151/196920822epszauph9ah.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/8219/196920931fajhnbph3yq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/7390/196921259vhenamph1xf.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
:)

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Now after these images I'm really wondering, how come any of you dont ever open a thread in general forums to show photos of this gorgeous city, if I were Sarajevo, i would be ashamed of you for hiding me away lol. If you need some cool recent pics to show off, let me know :)

Some recent images of this beautiful city :)

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Now after these images I'm really wondering, how come any of you dont ever open a thread in general forums to show photos of this gorgeous city, if I were Sarajevo, i would be ashamed of you for hiding me away lol. If you need some cool recent pics to show off, let me know :)

Wow Bro those are nice pictures! Were do you get them? ( :) dont have to tell me the exact site if you dont want to but do you like search them up? : ) ) Yes I agree we should start a General Thread... Thanks for the pics once again!

Vrlo lijepe slike. Neko bi trebao napravit barjak za skyscrapercity od ove..

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/151/196920822epszauph9ah.jpg

Wow Bro those are nice pictures! Were do you get them? ( :) dont have to tell me the exact site if you dont want to but do you like search them up? : ) ) Yes I agree we should start a General Thread... Thanks for the pics once again!

You are quite welcome, i am glad you liked them :) If knew the website i would tell you the address, but the thing is a friend of mine made a program for me that searches for pics. The program is 100's times better than most of search enginees, but it's complicated as hell and full of bugs lol, advanced understaning and knowledge of C++ is a must! I can send it to you if you think you can deal with that 'monster' lol :D

Anyhow, you can start a Sarajevo thread with these pics, and then i will add more pics after you :)

Vrlo lijepe slike. Neko bi trebao napravit barjak za skyscrapercity od ove..

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/151/196920822epszauph9ah.jpg

Je, lijepa je slikica, al ak ti se da malo pricekat dan-dva, morti najdem i nekaj boljega za barjak :)

Sarajevo is simply breath taking. Thanks Bubach. I have Sarajevo pics too that I would like to add to the Sarajevo picture thread. I've seen a few great panarama shots of Sarajevo here that would make for a great barjak.

http://img141.exs.cx/img141/441/sarajevo6vq.jpg nice photo

Sarajevo , New year 2005

wow, nice picture of sarajevo new years! :) welcome to the forum Maslacak! :)

great pictures! :D

if anyone wants new pictures of Bosnia or Sarajevo then just go on www.webshots.com :)

Thanks for the link yugoboy:), that is a massive picture collection! :eek2:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/161949284IoheTZ_ph.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/192678363JSdVch_ph.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/192678621ERlNzN_ph.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/213324927UtnrTH_ph.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/230516771RXgzdv_ph.jpg

I can't see them?:(

Now I can:)

anyone have any information on projects?

anyone have any information on projects?

Dont think so, there arent many web sites that provide information about construction, does anyone know the Greece company name thats going to put up the facade on the parliement building?

Dont think so, there arent many web sites that provide information about construction, does anyone know the Greece company name thats going to put up the facade on the parliement building?


it really annoys me that people on this forum don't have digital camera to take pictures of the projects. :(

it really annoys me that people on this forum don't have digital camera to take pictures of the projects. :(

yeap! If I was in Sarajevo Now I would take some, but not everyone has time and money to drive around the city taking pictures of Construction sites.. I have a video of Construction sites on my camera but its old, its from 2001 when Unis Towers were half finished!

yeap! If I was in Sarajevo Now I would take some, but not everyone has time and money to drive around the city taking pictures of Construction sites.. I have a video of Construction sites on my camera but its old, its from 2001 when Unis Towers were half finished!


yes, if someone had the time to do all that information on projects, they have WAY too much time on their hands. :yes: anyway's, i'm sure this summer there will be a lot of information, considering that most projects get updated over the summer. :)

Source-
http://www.bosmal.com

http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-holbrooke1.jpg
17.2.2005

Izgradnja autoputa na koridoru 5C kroz BiH



NEW YORK, 17. FEBRUAR – Ričard Holbruk (Richard Holbrooke), tvorac Dejtonskog sporazuma i trenutni zamjenik predsjednika njujorške banke "Perseus", podržao je "Bosmal" u nastojanjima da obezbijedi finansijska sredstva potrebna za izgradnju autoputa na koridoru 5C kroz Bosnu i Hercegovinu.

Ričard Holbrooke se susreo sa Edinom Šabanovićem, izvršnim direktorom Boismala u svom uredu u New Yorku i rekao kako je siguran da će se autoput izgraditi, jer je to definitivno projekat istorijski nove BiH.

"Veoma je dobro što prolazi kroz cijelu BiH i oba entiteta. To je projekat od neizmjerno velike ekonomske i političke važnosti, koji će omogućiti prosperitetniju i stabilniju Bosnu i Hercegovinu", kazao je Holbrooke.
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-holbrooke2.jpg
Ričard Holbruk će, kako je obećao, poslati pismo podrške Bosmalu, u kojem će istaknuti značaj i važnost projekta, te sugerisati američkim finansijskim institucijama da ozbiljno razmotre mogućnost finansijskog učestvovanja u projektu.

Šabanović je Holbruku prezentirao film "Kako se gradio Bosmal City Center":

"Gospodin Hobruk je bio veoma ugodno iznenađen i čestitao nam na projektu, njegovoj veličini i arhitektonskom dizajnu, kao i i konceptu same zgrade. Posebno mu je bilo drago što BCC mijenja sliku Sarajeva u jedan moderan grad", rekao je Šabanović.

Edin Šabanović nastavlja svoj poslovni posjet SAD-u.

Source-
http://www.answers.com/topic/constructions-and-reconstructions-in-sarajevo-after-war

Constructions and reconstructions in Sarajevo after war

In the years following the Bosnian War, there has been a construction boom in Sarajevo. It is among the cities with the most construction in South-east Europe. The UNIS Twin Towers, designed by architect Ivan Strauss, were almost totally destroyed in the war, but have been renovated completely. On the site of the Oslobodjenje Towers, the Avaz towers have now been constructed. In the Hrasno residential area, the Bosnian company Bosmal has constructed the "Bosmal City Center", one of the tallest twin towers in the Balkans at 120 meters each.

The new owners of the Holiday Inn Hotel in Sarajevo, also designed by architect Ivan Straus, announced that as of 2005 they will start construction on a new 22 story tower. The so-called 'intelligent' tower is expected to cost about 50 million Euro.

The Bosnian Parliament building (from architect Juraj Neidhart) is under re-construction, and the Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina in Sarajevo's Marin Dvor area is totally renovated.

In Sarajevo's Ilidza suburb many construction projects which could be considered large by even EU standards have been started. Examples include a project to build a cable car to connect to the near by mountains Igman and Bjelasnica; a sport complex with swimming pools worth 30 million Euro; and the 'Gardens of Riverina' - city within the city which will cost more than 1 billion Euro over a ten year period.

Last year, one section of the future European motorway corridor 5C was constructed and opened for traffic near Sarajevo. Soon the Federal government will start construction on a new 40 km long motorway section from Sarajevo to Zenica.

Bjelasnica and Igman Olympic Mountains resorts will soon be privatized and totally reconstructed.

this article is alittle old, and of course it isn't going to talk about the offices in sarajevo that are being constructed, but here you go. :)

Source-
http://www.butmir.com/bos/reference.html

Sarajevo Projects (Updated from the Old List)

I IZGRADNJA NOVIH OBJEKATA

Stambeni i stambeno poslovni objekti:

Bosmal City Center – Hrasno (315 stanova, 77 000 m2)
Stambeno objekat - Zagrebačka ulica (16 stanova)
Stambeno poslovni objekat - Jadranska ulica (14 stanova)
Stambeno poslovni objekat - Breka A2 (27 stanova, 5 500 m2)
Stambeni nizovi - Glodžina ulica (4 stana, 1 090 m2)
Stambeno poslovni objekat - PP4 Hrasno (3 500 m2)

Poslovni i veleprodajni objekti:

Tržni centar Mercator Sarajevo (32 000 m2)
Investiciona banka Federacije BiH (2 000 m2)
Poslovni objekat A3 Breka
Poslovni objekat 4 - Teleoptik Ciglane (2 500 m2)
Poslovni objekat 5 - Teleoptik Ciglane (1 500 m2)
Trgovačko poslovni centar - Dolac Malta (1 200 m2)
Robna kuća "Robot komerc" - Humska ulica (2 500 m2)
Servis Mercedes benz "Mototours" – Bare (1 600 m2)
Poslovni objekat sa garažama "Robot" – Hrasno (10 000 m2)
Prodajno skladišni kompleks PPSC – Rajlovac (16 000 m2)
Poslovni objekat 6 – Hrasno (3 000 m2)
Poslovni objekat 7 – Hrasno (4 000 m2)

Objekti posebnog karaktera - kulturni i javni objekti:

Bošnjački institut – Sarajevo (3 500 m2)
Dogradnja Centralnog medicinskog bloka KCU – Sarajevo (10 000 m2)
Džamija Adil bega Zulfikarpašića - Kobilja glava
Džamija Istiqlal - Otoka Meander
Linearni akcelerator na Kliničkom centru
Fasada na Kliničkom centru (40 000 m2)
Fasada na Državnoj bolnici - Sarajevo
Poliklinika "Eurofarm" – Ilidža (250 m2)
Motel "Belvedere" - I faza (200 m2)
Motel "Belvedere" - II faza (400 m2)
Islamski centar - Hadžići

Industrijski objekti:

Hala "Coca cola" – Hadžići (17 000 m2)
Fabrika cementa Lukavac - Modernizacija i proširenje
Pivara Sarajevo - fermenati
Objekat za prečišćavanje otpadnih voda ViK - Butile, Rajlovac
Pogon za preradu ljekovitog bilja i gljiva "Boletus" - Hadžići
Benzinska pumpa Vareš sa regulacijom riječnog toka


II OBNOVA I REKONSTRUKCIJA RATOM OŠTEĆENIH OBJEKATA

Stanovi i kuće - PIU HOUSING
* naselje Grbavica
* naselje Hadžići
* naselje Kotorac
* naselje Delijaši
* naselje Alipašino polje
Rekonstrukcija Osnovne škole u Rakovici
Ravni krovovi na stambenim objektima
Stambeno naselje Dobrinja V (132 stanova)

III ADAPTACIJA I SANACIJA

Adaptacija i sanacija Kliničkog centra Univerziteta u Sarajevu
* Izgradnja infrastrukture, saobraćajnica kao i glavnog tunela u krug KC
* Infektivna klinika
* Ortopedija
* Abdominalna hirurgija
* Klinika Podhrastovi - rentgen kabinet
Sanacija fasada na Opštini Stari Grad
Džamija u Butmiru
Lubina džamija na Vratniku
Sanacija klizišta u ulici Pećina - Soukbunar

IV UREĐENJE GRAĐEVINSKOG ZEMLJIŠTA I IZGRADNJA INFRASTRUKTURE

Stambeno poslovno naselje na lokalitetu stare Breke
Izgradnja pumpne stanice i vodovodnog sistema objekta Alipašin most
Izgradnja toplovodnog kanala u naselju Ciglane
Izgradnja pumpne stanice Komatin (ViK)

V RUŠENJA

Zgrada I Interne klinike na KCU
Rušenje objekata na lokalitetu Marijin Dvor
Vanjsko liftno okno - Petrovačka ulica
UPI - Tržni centar - Novo Sarajevo (12 000 m2)
Zgrada "Oslobođenja" (10 000 m2)

EDIT: English Version (http://www.butmir.com/eng/reference.html)

Source-
http://www.answers.com/topic/constructions-and-reconstructions-in-sarajevo-after-war

Constructions and reconstructions in Sarajevo after war

In the years following the Bosnian War, there has been a construction boom in Sarajevo. It is among the cities with the most construction in South-east Europe. The UNIS Twin Towers, designed by architect Ivan Strauss, were almost totally destroyed in the war, but have been renovated completely. On the site of the Oslobodjenje Towers, the Avaz towers have now been constructed. In the Hrasno residential area, the Bosnian company Bosmal has constructed the "Bosmal City Center", one of the tallest twin towers in the Balkans at 120 meters each.

The new owners of the Holiday Inn Hotel in Sarajevo, also designed by architect Ivan Straus, announced that as of 2005 they will start construction on a new 22 story tower. The so-called 'intelligent' tower is expected to cost about 50 million Euro.

The Bosnian Parliament building (from architect Juraj Neidhart) is under re-construction, and the Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina in Sarajevo's Marin Dvor area is totally renovated.

In Sarajevo's Ilidza suburb many construction projects which could be considered large by even EU standards have been started. Examples include a project to build a cable car to connect to the near by mountains Igman and Bjelasnica; a sport complex with swimming pools worth 30 million Euro; and the 'Gardens of Riverina' - city within the city which will cost more than 1 billion Euro over a ten year period.

Last year, one section of the future European motorway corridor 5C was constructed and opened for traffic near Sarajevo. Soon the Federal government will start construction on a new 40 km long motorway section from Sarajevo to Zenica.

Bjelasnica and Igman Olympic Mountains resorts will soon be privatized and totally reconstructed.

this article is alittle old, and of course it isn't going to talk about the offices in sarajevo that are being constructed, but here you go. :)

They just aped that from wikipedia. It's nothing special, just repeats what everyone knows already.

Hey, They are re construction Alipasino Polje, as in the one across the Biggest Mosque? If yes that freakin Awesome because I live there (not now) and its about time!

That 22 Floor Tower Next to the Holiday Inn is gonna be great, hopefully it will be glass facade that will be awesome, when is the complete date and when are the going to start construction on the Tower?

Dunno Location or What it is but its in Sarajevo, looks like an American Building because of the Fire Escape Stairs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/OHR_building_jpg.jpg

That 22 Floor Tower Next to the Holiday Inn is gonna be great, hopefully it will be glass facade that will be awesome, when is the complete date and when are the going to start construction on the Tower?

yeah, the 22 floor building will certainly be great. :) i can't really wait to see some rendering of it. :yes: isn't the construction going to begin this summer of something? the downtown area is already nice, but one the 22 story building is made, and the other unitec and the parliment building is re-done, it's going to be something REALLY special. :)

btw, i can't see that building in your latest post that you were talking about...

Can you see it now? Also isnt oslobodjenje suppose to start re constructing there part of the building ?

Can you see it now? Also isnt oslobodjenje suppose to start re constructing there part of the building ?

i saw the picture. it does look very american, but i guess it was designed by an american. i've personally never seen that building, so i don't know what it is...

what's with the BBI Commercial Centre? isn't the construction supposed to start this summer along with the surrounding area? anyone have any informaton? i'm getting excited over the projects, since they are quite large, isn't it going to be like 56,000sqm?

We'll know about that maybe in a few months! WHats suppose to be built around it?

We'll know about that maybe in a few months! WHats suppose to be built around it?

the surrounding area is supposed to be completely cleaned up, and made into new.

the BBI Commercial Centre is supposed to completely finish in the middle of the year 2007. can't wait to see some of the construction photos.:)

wow middle of 2007 long time in a way...yes I cant wait also! that building is gonna be like a cousin to Unis Towers :) I hope is glass facade not the HOliday inn design thing!

wow middle of 2007 long time in a way...yes I cant wait also! that building is gonna be like a cousin to Unis Towers :) I hope is glass facade not the HOliday inn design thing!

i'm sure it's going to be glass facade, since most of the newer buildings in sarajevo are, so why not keep the style going? :) anyway's, the holiday inn design is really original, and it nice. it was only intended to be a one time thing, and that is the way it is to stay...

i'm sure it's going to be glass facade, since most of the newer buildings in sarajevo are, so why not keep the style going? :) anyway's, the holiday inn design is really original, and it nice. it was only intended to be a one time thing, and that is the way it is to stay...

True , but still imagine a Glass Facade, would be kick ass! ...is there such a thing as a red glass facade?

Dunno Location or What it is but its in Sarajevo, looks like an American Building because of the Fire Escape Stairs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/OHR_building_jpg.jpg

It's OHR (office of high representative) building, it's ex union invest building, i think they have some kind of arrangment with ohr, they will get back the building after some period of time.

True , but still imagine a Glass Facade, would be kick ass! ...is there such a thing as a red glass facade?


don't worry, i am almost completely sure that the 22 level building will not be in the design of the holiday inn. :) i've never really seen red glass facade, nor have i heard about it, so i wouldn't know. :(

Sarajevo from Air

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/217/91275514czzbwpph4zh.jpg

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/8978/161947726eaufrsph5wy.jpg

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/2016/161947805gltyptph8cx.jpg

yes, very nice pictures. does anyone have any of the renderings of the bbi commercial centre or the 22 storey building?

Thanks for the updates guys. Welcome Maslacak to the forum. :)

Does anybody know if the comme blocks and other apartment biuldings will be painted and that stuff in any soon time?

I like Sarajevo very much. I hope one day i will visit Sarajevo. Of course i will do that because it is a capital of our bosnian brothers. Viva BIH! :cheers1:

Does anybody know if the comme blocks and other apartment biuldings will be painted and that stuff in any soon time?


i'm not exactly sure, but i heard that some commies are already being painted and stuff like that. :)

galandar - your always welcome in bih. :)

I like Sarajevo very much. I hope one day i will visit Sarajevo. Of course i will do that because it is a capital of our bosnian brothers. Viva BIH! :cheers1:

Bro, your always welcomed to Bosnia ;)

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/8978/161947726eaufrsph5wy.jpg
I was looking at this picture and if you turn these buildings around they form the Serbian CCCC thing.... :mad:

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/8978/161947726eaufrsph5wy.jpg
I was looking at this picture and if you turn these buildings around they form the Serbian CCCC thing.... :mad:

:lol: they were supposed to be #8s.

:lol: they were supposed to be #8s.
Well the pretty much messed up trying to make that...doesnt look like a good #8 to me... Anways back to Topic!

Well the pretty much messed up trying to make that...doesnt look like a good #8 to me... Anways back to Topic!

anyone love the new avatar? :D

anyone love the new avatar? :D

Very nice, lol I was searching for a new avatar too! lol

Very nice, lol I was searching for a new avatar too! lol

i made this one myself.:) if you have the program macromedia flash, it's a sinch!

Ehh, i can see how unserious you guys are. ;) Instead of starting a thread on Sarajevo in general forums and showing off the beauty of it, you guys are playing with your avatars and showing off whose avatar is better lol, so who's gonna open the thread ? I am not, this is your city! I can just add more stuff and participate in it as i promised :)

Ehh, i can see how unserious you guys are. ;) Instead of starting a thread on Sarajevo in general forums and showing off the beauty of it, you guys are playing with your avatars and showing off whose avatar is better lol, so who's gonna open the thread ? I am not, this is your city! I can just add more stuff and participate in it as i promised :)


I agree with you. Guys show us Sarajevo newest pics (not old pics) and we will suport you with some nice photos of Sarajevo.

anyone love the new avatar? :D

My brother's avatar is cool. I like it :okay:

http://images4.fotopic.net/?iid=y75zvc&outx=709&quality=80


http://images.sarajevo-x.com/photos/img_557.jpg

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ok guy's, i've talked to over with some other forumers, and "we" think it's a better idea if we just make a sarajevo picture thread that says, and keep this strictly a project thread. it was going pretty well, untill we all (including myself) got alittle carried away. ;) :D

so, please just try to get projects and comments here...

Sarajevo Photography

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Završen projekat žičare od Hrasnice do Igmana

Preduzeće Energoinvest-Inžinjering za dalekovode je pripremilo projekat jednodužne kabinske žičare koja će se protezati na dužini od 6.3 kilometra od Hrasnice prema Igmanu.
Projekat sačinjavaju žičara (polazna stanica, međustanica i izlazna stanica) kao i prateći objekti. Stanice će biti opremljene restoranima, ambulantom, sanitarnim čvorovim, mjestom za previjanje beba, te mjestima za brzu hranu i terasama.

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Iran gradi kulturno-sportski kompleks u Sarajevu
Islamska Republika Iran namjerava u okviru unapređivanja bilateralnih odnosa sa BiH izgraditi kulturno-sportski kompleks u Sarajevu, obavijestio je premijera Federacije BiH Ahmeta Hadžipašića zamjenik šefa Ambasade Irana u BiH Mahmond Heidari, tokom današnjeg razgovora u sjedištu Federalne vlade. Ukoliko sve bude teklo po planu, prvenstveno u pogledu obezbjeđivanja lokacije za ovaj kompleks (Pionirska dolina), u čemu se očekuje razumijevanje i podrška i Federalne vlade, kamen temeljac za ovaj kompleks postavio bi iranski ministar vanjskih poslova čija je posjeta BiH najavljena za septembar.(ONASA)

BBI

Uoči utvrđivanja nacrta urbanističkog rješenja "Robna kuća" organizirana je panel diskusija u prostorijama Općine Centar kojoj su prisustvovali ugledni sarajevski arhitekti te predstavnici gradskih i kantonalnih ministarstava, zavoda, Arhitektonskog fakulteta u Sarajevu, Udrženja urbanista BiH te Asocijacije arhitekata. Investitor projekta BBI d.d. je tom prilikom prezentirao idejno rješenje multifunkcionalnog objekta, koji se treba naći na mjestu gdje se trenutno nalazi Robna kuća "Sarajka"

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Prva višespratna garaža u centru Sarajeva

Ministarstvu prostornog uređenja je nedavno stigao zahtjev za izdavanje urbanističke dozvole za izgradnju garažno-poslovnog objekta u ulici Mula Mustafe Baseskije. Objekat će imati 5 etaža - s prednje stane prema ulici se trebaju se nalaziti poslovne prostorije, dok će se u pozadini nalaziti ulaz u garažu. Ministar Zlatko Petrovic je ponudu ocijenio kao dosad najrealniju, a investitori ovog prjekta su "Feal metal" i "Centrotrans".

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Traganje za rješenjem nesporazuma

Imajući u vidu da projekt izgradnje poslovno-stambenog objekta na lokaciji robne kuće "Sarajka" koji je ponudio investitor BBI znatno odstupa od urbanističko-tehničkih uvjeta propisanih Projektnim programom centralnog gradskog jezgra koji je utvrdila Vlada Kantona Sarajevo 20. juna 2000. godine, cilj sastanka je bio da se, uvažavajući stručna mišljenja arhitekata i urbanista, ali i interes investitora, zajednički definišu elementi smjernica za izradu urbanističkog projekta u pogledu dimenzija, visine i sadržaja budućeg projekta.

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Arhitektonsko rješenje zatvorenog bazena

S ciljem ostvarivanja većeg kvaliteta rekreativnih i sportskih mogućnosti u Sarajevu, u naselju Otoka obezbijeđen je prostor za izgradnju prvog pokrivenog bazena u gradu. Obezbijeđena urbanistička markica na kojoj će se objekat graditi je veličine 65x56 metara. Bitna je i činjenica da proširenjem bazenske školjke sa 50x21 na 50x25 i dodavanjem prostorija za sportaše ovaj objekat zadovoljava kriterije olimpijskog bazena


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ODNOS -Bazena-
Raspisivanjem javnog, anonimnog, projektnog i jednostepenog konkursa za izradu arhitektonskog rješenja zatvorenog bazena "Otoka – meandr2" u Sarajevu je konačno prvi korak u obogačenju javnog života građana, zadovoljavanju nihovih potreba za rekreacijom ovoga tipa te zadovoljenju potreba za sportske saveze, profesionalne sportiste, fizičko obrazovanje mladih generacija i sl. Obzirom da Sarajevo kao glavni grad države sa svoji preko 400 000 stanovnika još uvjek nema zatvoreni bazen , iskreno se nadam da inicijativa Zavoda za planiranje kantona i općine Novi grad za izgradnju bazena nece biti zavrsena ovim konkursom nego da ce institucije Općine, Grada i Kantona smoći snage i realizirati prvi zatvoreni bazen u gradu. Smatrajuči da je gradu podjednako potreban zatvoreni bazen za rekreativce /građane/ i sportase /sportska drustva/ a svatajuči da je finansiska situacija veoma teska te nije realno da se prave dva odvojena bazena, potrebno je ovim konkursom dobiti takvo rješenje da zadovolji obadvije potrebe. Iz tog razloga a odobrenjem raspisivača konkursa da “konkurenti mogu predlagati i druge sadržaje obogačujući program” predlozeni sadrzaji u zadatom projektnom projektu su djelomicno prosireni i obogačeni. Povecavanjem bazenske školjke sa 50x21 na 50x25 te dodavanjem prostorija za sportase dobiva se epitet Olimpiskog bazena te se uz minimalne troskove bazen moze koristiti i za Svjetsko prvenstvo u plivanju te olimpiska takmičenja. Takođe dodavanjem skakaonica koje nisu bile u programu te dodavanjem prostorija za administraciju u koju moze biti smjesten Plivacki savez ili sportski plivacki klub objekat postaje kompletan a jedino takav isplativ za izgradnju.

LOKACIJA
Prostor , predviđen za izgradnju , obuhvata površinu od oko 3600 m2 a nalazi se na području opštine Novi grad u sarajevskom naselju Otoka. Tačna lokacija dobivena je konkursnim urbanističkim rješenjem lokacije Meandr Otoka te je ovo samo nastavak aktivnosti općinskih i kantonalnih institucija. Lokacija je urbanističkim rješenjem striktno određena i pozicionirana a nalazi se između predviđenih objekata Sportske dvorane sa zapadne strane, Robne kuće sa sjeverne strane, poslovnog objekta sa istoka i džamije i fudbalskog stadiona sa južne strane.
Teren je relativno ravan sa blagim neznatnim usponom od juga prema sjeveru gdje su locirani neki trosni objekti koji su predviđeni za izmještanje. Geomehaničke karakteristike tla u pogledu nosivosti i eventualnog slijeganja pod opterečenjem objekta su relativno povoljne.

NAMJENA
Osnovna ideja konkursnog rješenja jeste da je objekat polifunkcionalan i služiče večem broju korisnika a to mu jedino i daje šansu da bude profitabilan i ekonomski održiv te da u budučnosti ne bude na teretu općine ili kantona. Prije svega kao objekat kantonalnog odnosno gradskog značaja objekat je namijenjen organizaciji takmičenja i treninga velikih sportskih priredbi u plivanju, skokovima u vodu, vaterpolu, podvodnim i drugim vrstama takmičarskih sportskih disciplina. Po svojim tehničkim karakteristikama i gledalištu kapaciteta preko 500 sjedišta objekat može poslužiti za organizaciju največih svjetskih i olimpijskih takmičenja.
Druga kategorija korisnika su građani Sarajeva, rekreativne grupacije, pojedinačni korisnici, omladina i djeca koja znaju plivati. Ovo naglašavam zbog toga što bazen nema objekat za neplivače, a zbog veličine zadate parcele nije ga bilo moguče predvidjeti.
Treča grupacija korisnika su studenti Fakulteta za fizički kulturu koji če, izgradnjom ovog bazena, dobiti optimalne pretpostavke za izvođenje nastave predviđene nastavnim programom Fakulteta, kao i edukaciju trenerskog kadra.

POSTAVKA
Lokacija predviđena za bazen je striktno određena urbanističkim rješenjem koje je dato kao prilog u raspisivanju konkursa. Ucrtana markica dimenzija 65x56 metara sa isječenim gornjim čoškom te pozicija susjednih predviđenih i več izgrađenih objekata stvarali su nekoliko poteškoča koje je trebalo riješiti. Kao prvo sa jugoistočne strane bazena se nalazi objekat vjerskog karaktera /Džamija/ što u velikoj mjeri utiče na materijalizaciju objekta i odnose punog /neprovidnog/ i praznog /providnog/ materijala na fasadi. Ipak dovoljna udaljenost džamije utiče na to da potpuna vizuelna barijera nije neophodna ali neki odnos punog i praznog se mora zasigurno postiči. Druga stvar je urbanistička postavka fudbalskog stadiona čiji gornji desni ugao nesretno zadire i narušava kontinuitet linije objekata te smanjuje prohodne linije između objekata na minimum. To je u velikoj mjeri odredilo predviđeni oblik objekta sa južne strane koji svojim kružnim oblikom oslobađa uglove i stvara dovoljnu udaljenost od stadiona i omogučava lakše hodne linije pješaka spajajuči tako dva planirana trga, jedan ispred džamije a drugi ispred sportske hale sa sjeverne strane koji če se do izgradnje podzemne garaže koristiti kao parking. Treča stvar je pozicija predviđene robne kuće sa sjeverne strane bazena. Njena udaljenost od 12 metara od bazena uticala je na postavljanje ulaza u sami bazen. Naime iako se položajem bazena nameče organizacija bazena sa ulazom sa trga ispred džamije (zbog prostora i širine koje stvara trg) takva opcija je u ranoj fazi razmišljanja odmah otpala iz jasnih razloga orjentacije bazena ( dakle duža stranica okrenuta prema jugu ) i njegovog mogučeg povezivanja sa sportskom dvoranom i garažom ispod nivoa trga. Dakle varijanta da ulaz bude sa sjeverne strane morao je biti rješen na takav način da nezahtjeva ispred sebe veči prostor. To se riješilo samom organizacijom objekta. Korisnici su se podijelili u tri grupe i dobili tri zasebna ulaza. Ulaz publike i posmatrača je sa sjeverne strane dok je ulaz rekreativaca sa gornjeg lijevog čoška a sportista i novinara sa gornjeg desnog čoška. Ovakva postavka organizacije objekta omogučit će jako dobro funkcionisanje samog objekta te takođe njegov atraktivan i potpuno moderan izgled.

KONCEPCIJA
Unutrašnja organizacija prostora te samo funkcionisanje objekta je u suštini jako jednostavno i fleksibilno tako da korištenje objekta u više svrha (rekreacija, takmičenje, edukacija ) ne prestavlja nikakav problem čak i u slučajevima istovremenog korištenja u više namjena. Objekat je suštinski podjeljen u četiri cijeline koje su razvijene i smještene kroz četiri etaže (suteren, prizemlje, prvi sprat i drugi sprat).

1. Gledaoci
Objekat predviđa preko 500 sjedečih mjesta a kapacitet se može djelimično i povečati . Ulaz za gledaoce je sa sredine objekta sa sjeverne strane u nivou postoječeg trga. U okviru hola za gledaoce nalaze se dvije prodavnice za potrebe publike te garderoba i sanitarije. U holu se takođe nalazi i blagajna koja opslužuje gledaoce koji se nalaze van objekta gdje kupuju kartu da bi mogli uči u objekat. Iz hola gledaoci se penju na prvu etažu odakle popunjavaju tribine koje su odignute od nivoa bazena za 1,4 metra. Mostom koji ide ivicom objekta gledaoci mogu doči na drugu stranu bazena koja se nalazi na jugu i na kojoj je smješten kaffe sa stolovima koji imaju pogled i u bazen a takođe i vani na trg, džamiju, stadion i sl. Ta galerija na kojoj je predviđena bogata kafana može se iskoristiti takođe za povečanje kapaciteta gledalaca ili za neke specijalne zvanice u slučaju nekih specijalnih sportskih dešavanja. Gledaoci takođe u periodu pauze mogu izači na terasu iznad ulaza . Ovakvom organizacijom gledaoci su izdvojeni i onemogučeni da se pomješaju sa kupačima i da koriste čiste dijelova bazena.

2. Sportaši i reporteri
Ukoliko se objekat namjerava koristiti i u zvanična sportska takmičenja mora zadovoljiti potrebe sportaša odnosno klubova te reportera koji takva dešavanja prate. Dakle oni su potpuno odvojeni od kontakta sa gledaocima i rekreativcima kako ulazom tako i prostorijama. Ulaz za sportaše i rekreativce je sa desne strane istočne fasade gdje se nalazi manji hol. Iz hola sportaši odlaze hodnikom do grupnih svlačionica koje imaju mokri čvor (tuševe, umivaonike i wc). U sklopu tih prostorioja je i jedna prostorija za zagrijavanje sportaša prije nastupa sa teretanom i prostorija za sudije. Reporteri se iz hola penju na drugi sprat gdje pored reporterskih kabina koje su postavljene centralno u odnosu na bazensku školjku radi što boljeg pregleda imaju bife i toaleta. Pored stepenista predviđen je i lift koji bi mogao biti pneumatski jer se radi o samo dva sprata. Takođe iz hola se može sići u suteren što je direktna veza sportista sa saunom . Ovaj hol i hol gledalaca defakto dijeli prodavnica te ta ista prodavnica moze sluziti i kao prodavnica i za sportase i reportere a i kao veza između dva hola ukoliko je potrebno.

3. Rekreativci
Največi broj ljudi koji će dolaziti i najstalniji korisnici bazena će zasigurno biti rekreativci. Oni će biti korisnici bazena svakog dana od samog jutra pa do kasnih večernjih sati što znači da taj dio zgrade mora funkcionisati odvojeno od ostalih dijelova koji se koriste povremeno. Zbog toga je dat poseban ulaz i to na lijevoj strani zapadne fasade kao najblize tačke od parkinga odnosno buduče parking garaže a takođe je orjentisan prema trgu ispred sportske dvorane. U holu rekreativaca se pored prodavnice nalazi i prostorija za čuvara i stepenice sa liftom koje vode u suteren i na drugi sprat gdje se nalaze prostorije administracije (tri kancelarije i sala za sastanke) koje mogu sluziti i kao prostorije kluba te toaleti i prostorije cistacice i ostave kao i režiske kabine (regulacija svjetla, tona, oficijelni spiker i sl.). Rekreativci korisnici bazena stepeništem ili liftom dolaze u hol u suterenu gdje se nalazi recepcija odnosno blagajna gdje plačaju korištenje bazena te dobivaju ključ i broj gardarobnog ormariča. Taj hol je takođe predviđen za direktno povezivanje sa sportskom dvoranom ali i za povezivanje sa parking garažom tako da korisnik bazena može ostaviti auto u garaži i direktno doči u bazen. Ta veza bi bila iskorištena i za direktnu vezu garaže sa trafo stanicom i energetskim dijelom. Rekreativce korisnike bazena poslje hola dočekuju kabine za presvlačenje sa jedne strane hodnika i prodavnice, frizer i garniture za odmor sa druge strane. Prolaskom kroz gardarobe korisnici dolaze u čisti dio gdje se pored toaleta i tuševa nalaze i garderobni ormariči gdje ostavljaju stvari. Sa bočnih strana se nalaze izlazi u bazen ispred kojih je obavezno predviđen sanitarni bazen. U suterenskom dijelu se pored ovih sadržaja nalaze još prostorije ljekara te jedna grupna svlačionica kao i sauna sa svim svojim prostorijama. Naravno tu je i energetski dio koji nije dostupan vanjskim korisnicima. U nivou prizemlja rekreativci pored bazena mogu koristiti i grijane tribine sa južne strane te plato sa ležaljkama za sunčanje. Takođe sa juzne strane se nalaze staklene stijene koje se ljeti otvaraju te laganim prostrujavanjem zraka te velikim količinama svjetla unutar objekta i visoko podignutom konstrukcijom kao i velikim staklenim površinama sa bočnih strana daju ugođaj otvorenog bazena. Problem nekontrolisanog ulaska ljudi sa trga rješen je sa nekoliko elemenata. Prvo nivo na kojem su klizne stijene je viši za oko 1;5 m u odnosu na trg jer se nalazi iza grijanih tribina te sa laganom ogradom od 1m barijera se povečala na 2,5m. Drugo ispred zida na kojem se nalaze pomične stijene data je zelena površina sa kolonadom stubova koji su na vrhu povezani gredom koji vizuelno dijeluju kao jedna cijelina sa objektom a zapravo su obična skulptura na trgu a objekat je zadržan u okvirima zadate parcele. Treče U neposrednoj blizini otvora postavljena je kabina za covjeka koji bi nadgledao kupace odnosno za instruktora i sl. Takođe u toj prostoriji postavljene su i stepenice kao veza bifea sa sprata sa prizemljom i suterenom tako da se može piće posluživati i kupačima odnosno da kupači mogu koristiti u nekim slučajevima i kafanu na galeriji.


4. Tehnički dio
Kompletan tehnički dio funkcionisanja bazena nalazi se u suterenu. Obzirom da se ulaz za sportiste i reportere manje koristi zbog toga je on dat i kao ulaz za tehničko osoblje koje radi na održavanju i funkcionisanju bazena. U suterenu se od tehničkih prostorija nalazi pored garderobe za radnike sa tuš kabinom i toaletom i prostorije za čistačice, sve prostorije koje su potrebne za funkcionisanje ovakvog objekta : sanitarna tehnika, kompenzacioni bazen, bazenska tehnika, ventilacione komore, podstanica grijanja, trafo stanica i sl.

KONSTRUKCIJA

Kompletna konstrukcija objekta se može podijeliti u dva dijela: na armirano betonski konstruktivni sklop zidova stubova i međuspratnih konstrukcija i čeličnu rešetku koja pokriva centralni dio objekta iznad bazena. Čelična konstrukcija je zamišljena kao složena konstrukcija od šest trouglastih nosača koji se prostiru radijalno oko centralnog dijela bazena i formiraju centralni prsten. Ukupni raspon koji savladavaju je 63 metra po dužoj strani bazena te tako omogučuju nesmetan prostor za organizaciju svih potrebnih sadržaja. Središnji prsten je prečnika 20 metara i on je pokriven zasebnom konstrukcijom od lameliranih nosača i čeličnih zatega te kompletan pokriven staklom. Polja koja su ostala između nosača su savladana prostornom mero konstrukcijom i obložena sendvič panelima od lima. Po dužini nosač bi bio prekriven staklom /pleksiglasom/ te bi tako omogučio još veču količinu svjetlosti u objektu a istovremeno stvorio bi utisak lebdeče konstrukcije kako danju tako i noču. Kompletna konstrukcija bi bila oslonjena na šest armirano betonskih stubova koji bi pri vrhu bili uhvačeni armirano betonskom gredom. Ispod grede a sve do nivoa trga bi bila staklena stijena postavljena na posebnim staklenim nosačima. Tako izvedena konstrukcija sa tolikom količinom stakla i kubaturom prostora davala bi utisak otvorenog bazena sa nadstrešnicom što je u izvjesnoj mjeri i bio cilj u osmišljavanju ovakve konstrukcije.

ANALIZA POVRŠINA

Suteren
Hol sa recepcijom - 60 m2
Blagajna - 10 m2
Uprava - 15 m2
Hol ispred kabina sa garniturama za sjedenje - 180 m2
Frizer - 35 m2
Prodavnica sportske opreme - 65 m2
Prostor sa gardarobnim ormaricima, kabinama, tuševima, wc - 450 m2
Ljekar - 25 m2
Sauna - 65 m2
Hodnik - 30 m2
Garderoba radnika održavanja - 35 m2
Hodnik - 17 m2
Cistacice - 8 m2
Trafo stanica - 20 m2
Bazenska tehnika - 200 m2
Prolaz oko školjke - 120 m2
Sanitarna tehnika - 80 m2
Kompenzacioni bazen - 90 m2
Ostava - 30 m2
Ventilacione komore - 70 m2
Podstanica grijanja - 60 m2

Ukupno Suteren - 1665 m2


Prizemlje

Hol publike - 300 m2
Hol rekreativaca - 75 m2
Hol sportista i novinara - 75 m2
Prodavnica - 15 m2
Prodavnica - 15 m2
Kontrola - 10 m2
Kontrola - 10 m2
WC zenski - 20 m2
WC muski - 20 m2
Hodnik - 30 m2
Hodnik - 45 m2
Svlacionica za sportiste - 30 m2
Svlacionica za sportiste - 30 m2
Svlacionica za sportiste - 45 m2
Teretan , masaza - 40 m2
Prostorija za zagrijavanje takmičara - 20 m2
Instruktori - 20 m2
Plivacki bazen sa prostorom oko bazena - 1800 m2
Prostor za odmor kupaca sa grijanim tribinama - 300 m2

Ukupno Prizemlje - 2900 m2


Prvi sprat
Hol publike sa tribinama - 400 m2
Veza tribina sa kafeteriom - 70 m2
Kafeterija / specijalni gosti - 280 m2
Bocni hodnik sa stepenistem - 50 m2
Bocni hodnik sa stepenistem - 50 m2
Ukupno Prvi sprat - 850 m2

Drugi sprat
Hol administracije i kluba - 60 m2
WC zenski - 7 m2
WC muski - 10 m2
Cistacica - 6 m2
Ostava - 5 m2
Sala za sastanke - 20 m2
Kancelarija - 10 m2
Kancelarija - 10 m2
Kancelarija - 15 m2
Režija - 24 m2
Reporterske kabine 8 kom - 50 m2
Bife - 20 m2
Ostava bifea - 10 m2
Hol reportera - 60 m2
Ukupno Drugi sprat - 307 m2

REKAPITULACIJA
SUTEREN - 1665 m2
PRIZEMLJE - 2900 m2
PRVI SPRAT - 850 m2
DRUGI SPRAT - 370 m2

UKUPNO BAZEN - 5785 m2


APROKSIMATIVNI TROŠKOVNIK ZA REALIZACIJU PROJEKTA

A - OBJEKAT

1. SUTEREN - 1665 m2 - 800 KM/m2 - 1.332.OOO KM
2. PRIZEMLJE - 2900 m2 - 1200 KM/m2- 3.480.000 KM
3. PRVI SPRAT- 850 m2 - 800 KM/m2 - 680.000 KM
4. DRUGI SPRAT - 307 m2 - 800 KM/m2 - 245.600 KM

UKUPNO OBJEKAT---5.737.600 KM

great information sarajevo-city! :)

edit: someone has to summarize all that information into english, because it isn't fair for only us yugo's to be able to read it. :( i don't have the time right now, but i'd really appreciate if someone else could summarize the information.

so sarajevo-city, do you have any larger rendering of all the project you described?

so sarajevo-city, do you have any larger rendering of all the project you described?

No thats the only size they got...sorry!

**Hey Timur u got MSN or AIM Messagers?**

No thats the only size they got...sorry!

**Hey Timur u got MSN or AIM Messagers?**

timurtaljanovic@hotmail.com for the hotmail or bosnianskill for my aim...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/Concerthall.png

For those of you who are not sure where this will be, here's a map. The old tobacco shop was located in the area of the circle. It was destroyed long before the war actually. This will basically be right across the street from the parliament building and saint Josip's church in the famous Marijin dvor neighborhood.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/Duhanarija.png

Hmm, I also found this picture on the site of the bureau of construction for the Sarajevo Canton. It's not as old as I thought... from the end of 03 actually. I guess this project has been in the works for a while but has only recently been aprooved. There's also some sort of business center a bit to the east of the concert hall. Would that be BBI? Whatever. Apparently there are big plans for Marijin dvor considering it's strategic location. Maybe not as many skyscrapers as we might have liked but still nice.

http://www.ziksar.com.ba/Slike/M_dvor.jpg

nice information, it's good to see such a large plan for the area. :) what are those p2,p3,p4,p5,p6,p7,p8. :dunno:

nice information, it's good to see such a large plan for the area. :) what are those p2,p3,p4,p5,p6,p7,p8. :dunno:

I think the P stands for parcel. As in parcel of land.

Well the rest of the map is in bosnian so I would think that p would stand for "prostor" but "parcel" might be right.

Am I the only one tempted to bulldoze a few historical buildings and replace them with highrises...

Well the rest of the map is in bosnian so I would think that p would stand for "prostor" but "parcel" might be right.

Am I the only one tempted to bulldoze a few historical buildings and replace them with highrises...

It depends on which historical buildings you wanna take down! ;) However, there is still enough space around Marijin Dvor.

some historical buildings should be taken down, if they aren't very nice. i really hope that the whole area is turned into a "business" district. :) :yes:

I wouldn't destroy non of them, instead it would be better to expand the city if possible...

I wouldn't destroy non of them, instead it would be better to expand the city if possible...


well, yes...that would be a possible answer towards the problem, but you mut be realistic. sarajevo is a compacted city in a large valley. i'm pretty sure there's only one "good" way for expanding, and expanding a downtown wouldn't work. if that was done, then of course there would be two skylines, which wouldn't be a good idea. :yes:

Would that be BBI? Whatever. Apparently there are big plans for Marijin dvor considering it's strategic location. Maybe not as many skyscrapers as we might have liked but still nice.



BBI is going to be built instead of Sarajka shoping centar. That's in diffrent part of town near Veliki Park and near cinema dubrovnik. Where did you find this plan for this part of marin dvor?

bimmer, are you aware of the next stage for the reconstruction of the parliment building? :dunno: have you seen any larger renderings of the projects?

BBI is going to be built instead of Sarajka shoping centar. That's in diffrent part of town near Veliki Park and near cinema dubrovnik. Where did you find this plan for this part of marin dvor?

I found it on an official site of Kanton Sarajevo. It had a bunch of old pictures of reconstruction in their database but I couldn't find any other pictures like that one.

By the way, are you sure about BBI? I mean I know that Sarajka is going to be reconstructed, but on another thread a Croatian was telling me about this:

"BBI Bank Towers 9 floors + 11 floors + 17 floors (U/C from spring 2005 to the end of 2007)"

That on top of the Sarajka? The Sarajka is only like 4 floors :runaway:

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bbi is going to be 9 floors + 11 floors + 17 floors? wow, i forgot the project was going to be so large! is that going to be near the 22 floor building? if so, we'll have a really nice cluster of offices in the area! :)

here's what SinCity posted earlier in this thread:

BBI Commercial Centre

Currently one of Bosnia's biggest banks BBI is set to construct a large office complex on the site of the former "Saralija Department Store" in downtown Sarajevo. To be known as the BBI Business Centre, the complex will total in size of approximately 56,000sqm and will consist of the following components ......

5 level podium that will include on top 3 seperate buildings of various heights including 5, 6 & 12 levels.

This basically means that there will be a 10, 11 & 17 level towers in the complex.

The complex should be complete by mid 2007 with work comencing this year on the demolition of the former Sarajka Deptartment Store.

is that going to be near the 22 floor building? if so, we'll have a really nice cluster of offices in the area! :)

No. O.k., here is how it's going to look like. The 22 floor building will be sort of like an extension of the Holliday Inn, which is the circle on the far left. So it's going to be sometwhere next to that area. The BBI center will be in the circle on the far right, where the old Sarajka used to be. I've also circled the parliament building and the concert hall (right next to each other). The circle right above the parliament building are the unitecs, next to which (obviously) is going to be built the third unitec.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/downtown.png

when you say extension from the holiday inn, do you mean like just build on top of it, or next to it? also, do you have any of the new information on the third unitec, and what business is going to take investment into it?

Well I'm assuming that it's going to be a seperate building because if you added 22 floors to the existing Holiday Inn then it would end up being as tall as the Unitecs and that would be far too ugly to think about..

Although I too am wondering where they'll find the space for the 22 floor building...

And no I don't know anything about the third Unitec.

Are you going to Sarajevo this summer?

Actually I'm really confused... reading SinCity's old posts it seems as if they plan to "enlarge" the existing structure, but not by just building atop of the existing structure... so I'm confused. Basically it says they'll be "adding" another 35 000 m2. How and where isn't really mentioned.

I'll see if I can find the original info. I translated what was written, but it was to be a cluster of new buildings in various heights ....

Its Great they are making a Concert Hall, we really need one! I hope its Black Glass Facade which would make the Unitec Area Really nice. About that 22 floor building its going to be a seperated building not stacked on Holiday Inn LOL that would look really stupid...Anyways Bosmal has big plans and a huge investment in there new project so lets hope its the Unitec 3..IMagine a 40-60 Floor Building NExt to Unitec or somewhere close WOW that would be the ultimate Skyline!

These are some architecture projects made for the competition

http://www.inet.hr/~ajunuzov/images/concert%20hall/opera-100.jpg http://www.inet.hr/~ajunuzov/images/concert%20hall/opera-200.jpg http://www.inet.hr/~ajunuzov/images/concert%20hall/opera-004%20copy.jpg http://www.inet.hr/~ajunuzov/images/concert%20hall/opera-005%20copy.jpg http://www.inet.hr/~ajunuzov/images/concert%20hall/opera-006%20copy.jpg http://www.inet.hr/~ajunuzov/images/concert%20hall/opera-007%20copy.jpg http://www.inet.hr/~ajunuzov/images/concert%20hall/opera-012%20copy.jpg http://www.inet.hr/~ajunuzov/images/concert%20hall/opera-013%20copy.jpg

Concept

Elements of urban composition: Whole complex of concert hall is divided in three parts in order to respect measures of surrounding objects and to allow building in two or three phases. There are pedestrian strip among objets, and they are connected to pedestrian ways outside the site. I have decided to make entrances on the west side of complex, and due to that west green area is slightly redesigned. By making west side dominant vrbanja street gets another quality element in addition to building of parliament and government. Design concept of north of the site is the same like in urban plan. Densely planted trees with small areas of green surfaces broken by two strips, one for vehicle approach to concert hall and other for service approach to east side of site. One of main ideas was that object should not make restrictions to pedestrian routes, and to be open and with attractive programs when halls are not working. To achieve that I have made pedestrian passage through object in north-south direction which are connected to bookstore, and exhibition space in larger hall. Together with other elements of halls and foyer they create zone of urban activity along envelope of center.

Elements of architectural composition:

Larger object

Central core of object is concert hall. It is raised above ground level because of public ways around and underneath it, and also due to acoustic reasons ( to reduce vibrations from garage and underground technical facilities. It is intended to make volume of hall clearly visible outside and very remarkable from inside. Intention is to have idea of floating non angular volume that contrasts surrounding geometric order. Important part of hall design is light that comes from above lighting volume of hall. Concert hall is surrounded by two wing of service elements ( stairs, toilets, fire escape) that contributes to acoustic convert of hall. Acoustical concept of hall is based on work and ideas promoted by Artec acoustic consultants New York, USA. Main idea is so called shoe box shape of concert hall, narrow and high space that is proven throughout practice. To achieve better acoustical convert and versatility hall is equipped with reverberation chambers. Early reflections are made possible by shape of the stage and above the scene movable canopy that can change reverberation time working together with reverberation chambers. Double layered envelope of hall is made of concrete and serves as acoustic barrier. East part of object is reserved for instrument storeroom and musicians space.

Smaller object

Smaller object is considered to be used more frequently and generally has same architectural concept like larger one. Hall is much simpler due to fact that acoustic problems are not so relevant for hall of its size. Again hall is to be clearly visible from outside and inside. Main entrance level is the same like in great hall and is connected by bridge which can be open or closed depending on occasion. East part of object contains management and musicians space with different entrances. It creates west side of future square. Ground floor of this part is broken and withdrawn to create friendlier and more interesting pedestrian space. Triangular object Triangular object is intended to be end or start of kotromanica street. It is object that can function separately ( if necessary ) and contains functions of most interest to every day people not interested in concert activities. This does not men that it is separated from halls. On the contrary it is part of the promenade on first level, that goes from great hall, passing smaller hall and ending in cafe and restaurant. Whole object is much smaller than its roof, thus creating covered urban space making it even more interesting.

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This highly commended competition entry was conceived as a billboard wrapped around a shed containing the concert hall. The aim was to create a cheap building with a big urban impact. It is designed to be built and occupied in stages as funding becomes available. The serrated top of the billboard facade will become a characteristic element of the skyline and be a colourful presence on the street. Enclosed between the outer skin and the shed is a ramped, landscaped foyer which rises gradually through the building before arriving at a rooftop picnic garden
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While processing of the design of the building, we faced two main problems: the structure - as a concert hall - had to work, fulfilling all the acoustic requirements, and the architectural language had to be understandable and acceptable by the multicultural and multiethnic context. We believe that the main feature of a concert hall should be to allow the perfect sound perception, for both the performers and the audience. The announcement specifically underlines that each concert-hall should be designed for more than a single kind of music (symphony, symphonic-coral for the great hall; chamber music, contemporary and popular music, auditions and meetings for the smaller hall). This led us to think that the best solution would have been to design a hall that could flexibly "adapt" its acoustic behaviour according to the performance or event represented. Therefore we solved the problem by thinking of a "movable" structure that could be "tuned" - similarly to an instrument - on the required acoustic level, obtaining from its shape the optimal sound as needed.This could be easily done: the reverberation time - which depending on the kind of concert that takes place in the hall must have a flexible value - became the ruling parameter of the shape of the hall, and particularly of the roof and ceiling.We think that architecture of public space should allow people to both recognise their own culture and create a future common cultural pattern. Designing an architecture in the Bosnian multicultural context obliges to the most careful analysis:

http://www.dedaloprogetti.com/srajevotavinv.jpg

Sarajevo has been a dramatic metaphor of the multidimensional crisis which affects our global society; although cities exist to satisfy the human and social needs of the whole urban community, today they are places where mainly individual and private needs are satisfied. Our Urban space is fragmented and contains segregated and self-segregated communities: contemporary cities are socially divisive mainly because the aimed "individual" freedom has reduced our interdependence and therefore our capacity to define a common interest. The dichotomy between urbanity and public space is one of the main reasons of the present un-sustainability: urbanity cannot be limited to private spaces because a key issue of social sustainability is avoiding social exclusion. We urgently need to define new common interests and express them with values, rules, and spaces: to avoid worsening the life of our future generations we must act for sustainable development: this implies a change in both planning our cities and designing their architectures. Public spaces, as a part of the "built environment", can play an important role in creating social sustainability. Any public space, as a metaphor of the entire built environment, can be a place where people define their life in common. Architecture can contribute to it, but this is a difficult task: working and researching we became aware that the mere design of a public space with a supposed socialising function does not necessarily imply a real multi-social use of this space, nor does it stop social fragmentation.

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"Swinging Walls of Music"

http://www.ingo-herrmann-berlin.de/concert_hall/co_conz2.gif

The Green River as artificial green element emphasizes the connection between the old and the new city.
Recognizable as a new element in the city it only was made possible in its dimensions through destruction.
Made of many different inclined plains, the longitudinal green lines express the permanent recognition of differential psychical perception.
The Garden of Music between the two rivers contains, through intention of the people, the energy to make
music feel and visible.

Five Lines of Music cross the Green River and start swinging. They materializing to
walls and get caught in the Garden of Music. There the swinging movement freezes. Getting
of the ground and twisting the walls enclose spaces and passages. Five walls make four
spaces in between which get connected and separated which intermingle and open up. They
create different passages through the site and provide a magnitude of experiences of space.
There are open and closed spaces, connected and separated spaces. Between the walls is
music and silence, manifest from the Garden of Music.

Music within itself holds silence. Silence first makes the experience and enjoyment of music possible.
Silence also goes beyond the notes and words of our cultures. Silence is one precondition in a building of
music to prepare listeners for a mental state of understanding. Silence can make things feel. Things
which are not possible to explain.

The concert hall as an expression of the frozen swinging walls of music, is an open building.
The walls does not close and bring the energy from the outside into the enclosed space.
The concert hall understands itself as an extension of the city center. The city center as the
common place where all people of the surrounding neighborhoods with its different cultures
do business, go shopping or do all different possible thinks.
The concert hall is continuing the Garden in itself and on its rooftop.
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I already see most of these not even making it to the FInals such as the GOlden Swirly thing and That Weird Picnic thing on Top of the building!

What happen to the design offered by the international famous Italian architect .... Renzo Piano? His design was underground or is this a deifferent thing that I am talking about?

Some of the designs above are really cool SarajevoCity!

What happen to the design offered by the international famous Italian architect .... Renzo Piano? His design was underground or is this a deifferent thing that I am talking about?

Some of the designs above are really cool SarajevoCity!

I think thats something involving history...dunno 100%

Oh my dear god, hell no...

I mean on one hand I like the general presence it has in the second picture below, with the tower and the layers and what/not, but it looks like it was built out of macaroni. If they could keep the general structure of this design and turn it... normal, and less curvy... kind of more traditional.. then I'd be happy.

With the types of projects getting aprooved over there, maybe Belgrade would accept a design like this? :lol:

http://www.ingo-herrmann-berlin.de/concert_hall/co_bild3.jpg

http://www.ingo-herrmann-berlin.de/concert_hall/co_persp.jpg

[QUOTE=L3D3NI]Oh my dear god, hell no...

I mean on one hand I like the general presence it has in the second picture below, with the tower and the layers and what/not, but it looks like it was built out of macaroni. If they could keep the general structure of this design and turn it... normal, and less curvy... kind of more traditional.. then I'd be happy.

With the types of projects getting aprooved over there, maybe Belgrade would accept a design like this? :lol:!


YEs the Macaroni Design is just retarded and I dont think People incharge of this project will actually pick this...I think its going to be a Glass Facade Building!

i really like this design. :yes:
http://www.inet.hr/~ajunuzov/images/concert%20hall/opera-007%20copy.jpg

anyway's...i'm almost 100% that the 22 story building is NOT going to be an addition, or anything like that to the holiday inn. it's probably going to be in the near area, so it will be very close. :) concerning the concert hall, that weird design with the curves will be given as a gift to belgrade for something to occupy their time. ;) :D

Lol Timur! I cant wait till they start this Concert hall and the 22 Story Building! Its gonna make the Sarajevo Skyline the Best in the Balkans because of the fact that sarajevo is building all there skyscrapers at one Place which is around the Unis Towers. Hopefully BOSMal will come up with something good again and lets just hope its Unitec #3.

Lol Timur! I cant wait till they start this Concert hall and the 22 Story Building! Its gonna make the Sarajevo Skyline the Best in the Balkans because of the fact that sarajevo is building all there skyscrapers at one Place which is around the Unis Towers. Hopefully BOSMal will come up with something good again and lets just hope its Unitec #3.


yes, sarajevo does already have a nice little skyline going for itself. :) anyway's...concerning the unitecs, i'm hoping the third doesn't get built. i'd like a different type of style for a building to get built instead of another unitec. if another unitec gets built, which will most likely occur, i'm sure it'll help to the skyline and office space a lot, but i'm just looking for a little more diversity amoung our skyscrapers. :)

concerning the skyline, i'm pretty sure one of the only things sarajevo is able to do now is build things that are higher than 5 levels, since we are really getting alittle crouded...

yes, sarajevo does already have a nice little skyline going for itself. :) anyway's...concerning the unitecs, i'm hoping the third doesn't get built. i'd like a different type of style for a building to get built instead of another unitec. if another unitec gets built, which will most likely occur, i'm sure it'll help to the skyline and office space a lot, but i'm just looking for a little more diversity amoung our skyscrapers. :)

concerning the skyline, i'm pretty sure one of the only things sarajevo is able to do now is build things that are higher than 5 levels, since we are really getting alittle crouded...

I think it would be cool to see a Unitec 3 but Round Shaped like a Cylinder and about 30 Stories high! That would be awesome for our skyline ..

I think it would be cool to see a Unitec 3 but Round Shaped like a Cylinder and about 30 Stories high! That would be awesome for our skyline ..


yes, mabye something similar to the zagreb cibona...

i think i found some other possible rendering for the concert hall...

http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo1.jpg
http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo2.jpg
http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo3.jpg
http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo4.jpg
http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo5.jpg

source - http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo.htm

The winning project of "Sarajevo Concert Hall" Competition
Urban future organisation

The project extends the public surface of the city of Sarajevo into and under the ground, forming a continuous space wrapping the foyers, the auditoriums and the service areas as well as an outdoor landscape above which bleeds into the surrounding parks.

The surrounding surface of the parkscape dissolves into and continues underground in a whirlpool movement allowing access from several critical viewpoints. The bifurcated landscaping creates openings for entrances and natural lighting. The surface also expands and contracts on its way down, accommodating different events through the building.

The landscape above allows public facilities within the building to blend with outdoor space and its events. The relationship between exterior and interior events changes according to the time of the day, weather conditions and season. The open landscape allows an unobstructed flow of people across and within the site creating a public square for the city.

The planning of the building underground eliminates the mutual impact between the concert hall and adjacent buildings as well as the necessity of external facades. The ground acts as thermal mass which increases the energy efficiency. The solar gain is minimised and overall the building environment is stable and controlled. Acoustically an underground concert hall needs no requirement for sound reductive external envelope since ground has very good acoustic properties.

The project of the Sarajevo Concert hall has the following objectives

• creation of a urban landscape in the heart of the city

• provision of an active zone for the use of the citizens of the town

• blurring of the boundaries of the building to provide for the interior of the city to serve the external activities and to blur the understanding of the extent of the building

These objectives were to be achieved by creating an external surface of the proposed park that focuses the flows towards the site and creates the interior volumes by flowing into the inside of the building as three ramps, which move into the interior of the building and congregate together in the main concert hall.

This succeeded to create an interior that allows for the park to exist above and for the most public spaces to have the most direct relationship to the outside.

The project
The city of Sarajevo has a unique setting in the landscape of Bosnia and Herzegovina. The city is organised along the valley of the river Mljecka, with the mountains to both the south and the north of the city. The site in Marinij Dvor lies between the old part of the city at the east, and the new town, to the west.

The old town with its low developments from the Austrian period allows the views through the streets and squares to the exterior of the city, and the new town contrasts the landscape with its predominantly vertical elements.

The horizontality and the topography addresses this relationship by allowing focused views through the site to maintain these connections.

There are a number of critical connections between the city and the site that are to be addressed. The proposed business park creates a central park, that links the site to the old town, the diagonal running through the site links the existing railway station to the south bank of the river, and the direct connection to the parliament building and the central square.

These critical routes meet and pass through the point of the site and concentrate the public densities in this central entrance area.

The external landscape is understood as an area of pedestrian priority zone, with direct links to the infrastructure of the city. The site will have a direct relationship to its public entrances positioned in relationship to the city, will have direct coach drop-off points, taxi and VIP drop-off, access to public bus transport and artists and VIP entrance on the south side.

The servicing of the proposed building is from below – the two level car parking is situated to the north of the site underneath the central square. From the proposed access route by the master plan, a loading bay is directly underneath to access the storage areas, delivery to bars and restaurant and for recording studio vehicles.

The outdoor foyer area can be used as a performance space during summer, the coffee bar and restaurant can spill out into the space and the artificial topography can be used as viewing mounds or amphitheatres.

This direct relationship to the outside is emphasised with the views through from the interior through the entrances and the skylights that will introduce dramatic daylight into the interior.

The most public spaces are concentrated in the top most level – the foyers, ticket offices, cloakrooms, information kiosks together with the restaurant, café and bookshop.

From these three main spaces the spiral access to the intermediate level of library, bookshop and management offices begins.

The three ramped access congregates in the main hall, which continues the ramped access in the arrangement of the seating. The level differences are negotiated in the slopes of the seating forming the visibility lines to the performance stage. In some areas the seating join to form a continuous ramped surface with joined access at certain points.

The hall, although having an overall asymmetrical layout, offers equal seat arrangement with appropriate focus on the stage. The hall has no balconies, which will mean there will be no sound pockets, and due to the circular arrangement the proximity of the seats to the stage.

The ramped access to the hall allows for the creation of side walls that will be reflecting the sound back to the orchestra and the auditorium. The concrete ceiling in the form of a triangulated coffer will diffract the sound around the hall and the reflector panels above the stage will concentrate the sound to the auditorium.

The stage has a flexible arrangement where the orchestra can be either used with or without the choir seating, and the first tier of seats can be removed to create a larger performance stage.

The secondary auditorium can serve an arrangement of a quartet performance or serve for conferences or small stage performances. The arrangement proposal for seating can be made either as flat or sloped to meet the upper level ramp. The performance stage can be raised or lowered to adapt to the suitable performance arrangement.

The rehearsals spaces are wrapped around the hall on the south and east side. The main rehearsal space is to have a similar shape to the main stage allowing for the same configuration of the musicians as the main auditorium.

here are some more models of the things i got back when i google searched sarajevo concert hall...

http://www.dedaloprogetti.com/maq05.jpg
http://www.dedaloprogetti.com/maqAlto04.jpg

Well that's a lot better than the macaroni structure.

So it wont add to the skyline at all.. oh well. Its still really good. It adds what will probably be the best park in the city to the very center of things, and the underground design is a pretty good idea as well.

here are some more models of the things i got back when i google searched sarajevo concert hall...

http://www.dedaloprogetti.com/maq05.jpg
http://www.dedaloprogetti.com/maqAlto04.jpg

Wow. Just 2 minutes ago I would have said that the macaroni concert hall was the worst idea ever but... well... I satnd corrected. It looks like something the communists would have built. Belgrade can have this one too.

i'm pretty sure that none of us expected it to contribute to the skyline, since most concert halls aren't exactly the "tallest" buildings.:) it is a very nice design, and it's good as you said to see that it's going to look nice and get built. :):yes:

Wow. Just 2 minutes ago I would have said that the macaroni concert hall was the worst idea ever but... well... I satnd corrected. It looks like something the communists would have built. Belgrade can have this one too.


that isn't the winner design though...
this is the winning design...
http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo3.jpg

that isn't the winner design though...
this is the winning design...
http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo3.jpg

I know.. if that other thing had been the winning design I would be crying.

this one was just one of the designs for the "competition"...
http://www.dedaloprogetti.com/maq05.jpg

I know.. if that other thing had been the winning design I would be crying.


lol, i think we all would be sad. :lol: the winning design looks pretty darn modern and interesting. :)

p.s. - you've got to love those rendering with the people that have exagerated faces like they are having orgasims in the buildings. :rofl:

ex)
http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo5.jpg

What happen to the design offered by the international famous Italian architect .... Renzo Piano? His design was underground or is this a deifferent thing that I am talking about?

Some of the designs above are really cool SarajevoCity!

Sarajevo Concert Hall will be underground according to the Renzo Piano design.

http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo4.jpg

It will be just near Unitic Towers and on other side of BH Parliement and construction when begin will cost 50 millions Euros.

Sarajevo Concert Hall will be underground according to the Renzo Piano design.

http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo4.jpg

It will be just near Unitic Towers and on other side of BH Parliement and construction when begin will cost 50 millions Euros.


yes, as you can see in this rendering, there is going to be an underground section, and then of course a couple of levels to make it noticeable in the city as a concert hall...
http://www.archimagazine.com/aufo3.jpg

Bosmal City Centre Update -

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I don't like underground concert hall. I find "macaroni design" more atractive, it reminds me on famous museum in Bilbao.

I don't like underground concert hall. I find "macaroni design" more atractive, it reminds me on famous museum in Bilbao.


what don't you like about the underground concert hall?

Looking from the ground, you can't see the diference between concert hall and average undeground garage. That is all. Many designs you posted are better than renzo piano's one. I mean, he is great architect, but this concert hall is terible.

BTW, when should construction start?

Looking from the ground, you can't see the diference between concert hall and average undeground garage. That is all. Many designs you posted are better than renzo piano's one. I mean, he is great architect, but this concert hall is terible.

BTW, when should construction start?


I agree with you. Underground object for € 50 millions is pretty stupid thing to build. Renzo Piano is good but still if I am investor I will not construct something for € 50 millions under ground.

Well I mean it wont just be a flat board in a field of grass. They're turning it into what will be a very important park.

That UNderGround thing looks so retarded!!!! Honestly, why the hell do you want something to go "Down" instead of UP! We are demolishing buildings to make SkyScrapers and this idiot makes a design where we build a concert hall DOWN into the ground! WOW what a freakin moron!