Call in sick!

80 degrees at the beach today.

85 in downtown (the heart of LA)!

And don't forget to thank god you live in LA!

America's most dynamic city!

I would if I didn't already take a week and a half off for the flu!

81 at the beach!

82 in downtown!

When I was little I used to take this stuff for granted but now I know how bad it can be elsewhere! I guess it wouldn't be so bad if you just want to stay inside all the time. But me I like being outside!

It IS winter right?

:okay:

It IS winter right?

:okay:


Sometimes I think about pre 1492. You know how the native americans migrated down from Russia to Alaska. Just think about how much it would suck to have been one of the ones who stopped in central canada (like the inuits) or those that stopped in the upper midwest versus those that came down to So. Cal. I know happiness doesn't depend on weather, but shit, I'd rather be in So Cal to live off the land than freezing my nuts off in the winter and sweating them off in the summer like in those other places.

You can't beat year round 70-80 degree weather.

When I was little I used to take this stuff for granted but now I know how bad it can be elsewhere! I guess it wouldn't be so bad if you just want to stay inside all the time. But me I like being outside!

West coast mentality kills me, you think people live in the upper midwest because they can't live in LA?

Have another
:cheers:

I like 60 degree weather, 80's are a little rough.

Some people prefer warm, some prefer cold. It's just a matter of taste, that's all.

^Of course.

Sometimes I think about pre 1492. You know how the native americans migrated down from Russia to Alaska. Just think about how much it would suck to have been one of the ones who stopped in central canada (like the inuits) or those that stopped in the upper midwest versus those that came down to So. Cal. I know happiness doesn't depend on weather, but shit, I'd rather be in So Cal to live off the land than freezing my nuts off in the winter and sweating them off in the summer like in those other places.

You can't beat year round 70-80 degree weather.

^I agree. That's why the people in northern climates own so much business and property in the warmer climates so that they can visit during the winter and enjoy the weather. Then, when it's spring and summer in the north, they return home to their headquarters. The decision-making occurs in the colder north, whereas the partying and surfing occurs in the warm southwest :lol:

hey there all! :)

i've got 2 MONTHS of paid vacation-time, and i'm beginning to think NOW is the time to commence that epic ritual!!

:cool:

Yay..it's the 80's. But we can't swim due to the ocean being filled with sewage from the storms. Owell..still pretty though. If one good thing that came out of the storms is the fact that the air has been hauntingly clear.

I am loving this weather, since we got all that rain the week before. I hope it stays for a while.

I am loving this weather, since we got all that rain the week before. I hope it stays for a while.

I just checked the weather.com

Currently:

Venice Beach 85 degrees
Downtown LA 84 degrees
Chicago 30 degrees
Manhattan 25 degrees.


It is supposed to stay awhile. It won't be mid 80s but the highs are supposed to be in the upper 70s. Sounds purrrrrrrrrrfect.

LA where winter is nicer than summer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can't beat year round 70-80 degree weather.

Another alternative is San Francisco's year-round 55-70-degree year-round weather. (I'm talking about SF, NOT the Bay Area).

^ Being a lover of snow and a passionate hater of heat and humidity, I love the the icy midwest just fine. Besides, all the snow pays off when it gives you a white christmas. :)

Sometimes I think about pre 1492. You know how the native americans migrated down from Russia to Alaska. Just think about how much it would suck to have been one of the ones who stopped in central canada (like the inuits) or those that stopped in the upper midwest versus those that came down to So. Cal. I know happiness doesn't depend on weather, but shit, I'd rather be in So Cal to live off the land than freezing my nuts off in the winter and sweating them off in the summer like in those other places.

You can't beat year round 70-80 degree weather.
In Vancouver and Victoria BC its not 80, but it isnt cold like you had described it, 60F in both Vancouver and Victoria today, 70F in Abbotsford BC. Thats why I love the west coast! In winter, It can be 57-60F In Vancouver, 57-60 in Seattle, 60 In Portland, 65 in San Francisco, 75-80 in Los Angeles, 80 in San Diego! You cant beat west coast weather!

^ Being a lover of snow and a passionate hater of heat and humidity, I love the the icy midwest just fine. Besides, all the snow pays off when it gives you a white christmas. :)

Well we don't suffer from high humidity, so 80 degress is rather comfortable here.
The only time we west coasters sweat is when we're exercising, not from the heat. I've lived in the mid-west before, its a totally different kind of heat, and I don't blame you not liking it. One of the reasons (not the main one) I wanted to come back to the west coast was because of the horrible heat/humidity in the mid-west, not the cold. I could deal with the cold better, even though it last way too long as well.

^I agree. That's why the people in northern climates own so much business and property in the warmer climates so that they can visit during the winter and enjoy the weather. Then, when it's spring and summer in the north, they return home to their headquarters. The decision-making occurs in the colder north, whereas the partying and surfing occurs in the warm southwest

Uhm, I think youve got Florida confused with California. If anything, California is owned by its immigrant residents, and asian investors way before anybody from chicago or boston - the times excepted. and even then, the times' journalistic relevancy owes absolutely nothign to who's responsible for its cash flow. It grew to relevance on angelino dynamism, not a midwestern one.

And if you really want to get tricky, California owns america's technological prowess and potential. Your statement only rings true regarding certain kind of "decisions", CA makes plenty of decisions for the rest of the world.

You guys don't know how jealous I am. I just walked home from school today and the temperature was -16C (-25C windchill factor). When I walked inside my house my I could not feel most of my face. I HATE THE COLD...Now I really can't wait until I head for LA in March.

It is projected to be 86 on the beach today!!!!!!!!

It is projected to be 86 on the beach today!!!!!!!!

damn. i can't even imagine 86 in the winter.
i just got home from track practice today and i had to shovel. :bash: it wasn't bad though since there was only an inch or so. there's a projected 6 inch, I heard, for tomorrow.

but I love the snow, one of the reasons I want to stay in Chicago

(well, the suburbs really :sleepy: . that'll change after highschool).

Uhm, I think youve got Florida confused with California. If anything, California is owned by its immigrant residents, and asian investors way before anybody from chicago or boston - the times excepted. and even then, the times' journalistic relevancy owes absolutely nothign to who's responsible for its cash flow. It grew to relevance on angelino dynamism, not a midwestern one.

And if you really want to get tricky, California owns america's technological prowess and potential. Your statement only rings true regarding certain kind of "decisions", CA makes plenty of decisions for the rest of the world.

Practically all of California's business is owned out east.

Just accept it

damn. i can't even imagine 86 in the winter.
i just got home from track practice today and i had to shovel. :bash: it wasn't bad though since there was only an inch or so. there's a projected 6 inch, I heard, for tomorrow.

but I love the snow, one of the reasons I want to stay in Chicago

(well, the suburbs really :sleepy: . that'll change after highschool).

Geez. I can't believe you had to shovel for just an inch. If there is less than 4 inches of snow in the driveway I just drive over it.
:lol:

Practically all of California's business is owned out east.

Just accept it
I find that extreamly hard to believe considering the quantity of business in California. You can't be serious.

I'm completely agree with Silverlake, Don't bashing him.

What's the scoop on tomorrow guys:D?

Cold Front moving in, 81 degrees :)

Practically all of California's business is owned out east.

Just accept it

I'll accept it if you accept that pretty much all recent US innovation is California based.

Im giving you the handicap because I'd say my statement is far truer than yours.

Cold Front moving in, 81 degrees :)
Brr, looks like ill need a shirt!:D

I'll accept it if you accept that pretty much all recent US innovation is California based.

Im giving you the handicap because I'd say my statement is far truer than yours.

I find them both hard to believe, but yours (LAuniverse) is far more false.

^ Ill name two that i use on a daily basis. Ipod and Tivo

well what a surprise, give it up to another east-coaster to respond in Urban Politician's favor.

How is it far falser? tell me how much of corporate CA is "owned" by the east coast?

I'll tell you this: the biotechnology industry, the internet, and the IC revolution, three of the largest technological innovations we have seen in the last half-century, were CA born and CA bred.

and now, stem cell research is being monopolized by CA research institutes. I don't mean to claim CA is the only innovator, like business, collaborative research is far more multi-layered than this simple asessment. But I was responding, somewhat in jest, to the ridiculous statement Urban Politician made. And even then, my statement, given the above facts, is far truer than his brain-fart statement.

Boston's role in the biotech industry only exists because of CA's own. That is wholly and unequivocally true. So does Boston's computer and optical networking industry. So does Austin's, and the Research Triangle's. You tell me which statement is more false given these facts.

Boston's role in the biotech industry only exists because of CA's own. That is wholly and unequivocally true. So does Boston's computer and optical networking industry. So does Austin's, and the Research Triangle's. You tell me which statement is more false given these facts.

Thats funny...I though it might have beens because of the numorous top notch schools.

I'm not an east coaster, nor a LA hater. But you're focusing on the fact that California is a leader in one industry, and that doesn't make a large enough point to support your argument.

Even when speaking of innovation, that is such a broad term to say that California is the reason for the recent innovation in the United States.

Like I said before, I'm not taking sides, I find both statements false.

I can itemize the individual discoveries that led to the birth of the biotechnology industry for instance. These discoveries singlehandedly enabled companies in the bay area to create a new industry. Leading to the birth of these industries in areas where research in the life sciences enjoys a deep pool of talent to draw on in other cities - to answer palindromes concern. Look, Im not saying CA is a leader of this or that. I'm saying more than that. I'm saying CA flat out invented these industries. And these industries are what drove the recent spate of prosperity for the country as a whole - they've collectively generated the greatest economic impact over these last thirty years. I cant think of another innovation that comes close to the degree that biotech, and the IT revolution has gone toward changin the face of our economy as we know it. not one.

And I never meant for my initial statement to be taken as complete truth. Im just saying that even noting how absurd such a one-sided statement about CA can sound, my comment still holds far more truth than some flimsy, vapid comment generalizing some sort of imaginary comprehensive East coast "ownership" of CA industry. I can actually name the scientific discoveries, and the scientists responsible for them, that substantiate my claim to a great degree. I wonder if The Urban Politican can do likewise for his.

I can itemize the individual discoveries that led to the birth of the biotechnology industry for instance. These discoveries singlehandedly enabled companies in the bay area to create a new industry. Leading to the birth of these industries in areas where research in the life sciences enjoys a deep pool of talent to draw on in other cities - to answer palindromes concern. Look, Im not saying CA is a leader of this or that. I'm saying more than that. I'm saying CA flat out invented these industries. And these industries are what drove the recent spate of prosperity for the country as a whole - they've collectively generated the greatest economic impact over these last thirty years. I cant think of another innovation that comes close to the degree that biotech, and the IT revolution has gone toward changin the face of our economy as we know it. not one.

And I never meant for my initial statement to be taken as complete truth. Im just saying that even noting how absurd such a one-sided statement about CA can sound, my comment still holds far more truth than some flimsy, vapid comment generalizing some sort of imaginary comprehensive East coast "ownership" of CA industry. I can actually name the scientific discoveries, and the scientists responsible for them, that substantiate my claim to a great degree. I wonder if The Urban Politican can do likewise for his.

You didn't even respond to Eastsider's post. You are still just talking about 1 industry (biotech). You are experiencing what I call the "magnifying glass" effect. Let me describe it:

Your favorite city/region is particularly dominant in one industry. Therefore, you tend to "magnify" this industry until it becomes the single most important thing in the universe.

There are other industries, other innovations--and much of it occurs outside of California.

Oh, and BTW, I am tired of LA taking credit for all of California's industry. This is the LA forum, and it seems like LA and Bay Area forumers use the virtues of their entire state just to attack individual metros out east. Our beloved Silverlake does that on a regular basis

There are other industries, other innovations--and much of it occurs outside of California

I just offered the advent of the biotech, and the IT industries as CA innovations of late. Tell me what new innovations have superceded these in economic impact in the past 15-20 years and I will treat your response as legitimate. btw, noone ever gave LA credit for inventing these industries...after all, this statement:

"Practically all of California's business is owned out east."

wasn't my statement. it was yours. and it should be noted that LA remains one of the largest players in biotechnology, but that is an aside now isnt it?

And don't try to hide behind Eastsider's response just because you're spouting off a bunch of horse-sh*t and know it. he doesnt need your help. substantiate your statement by yourself. if you want to make outlandish statements, you'll be expected to defend them on your own. I'm just as ready as anyone to take you on.

I just offered the advent of the biotech, and the IT industries as CA innovations of late. Tell me what new innovations have superceded these in economic impact in the past 15-20 years and I will treat your response as legitimate. btw, noone ever gave LA credit for inventing these industries...after all, this statement:

"Practically all of California's business is owned out east."

wasn't my statement. it was yours. and it should be noted that LA remains one of the largest players in biotechnology, but that is an aside now isnt it?

And don't try to hide behind Eastsider's response just because you're spouting off a bunch of horse-sh*t and know it. he doesnt need your help. substantiate your statement.

^Actually, I'm not hiding behind anything. All I'm saying is that you didn't address his question (and you still haven't).

All I am saying is that, on a regular basis, I read in the business section of newspapers about California companies getting bought out, many times by companies out east. It's been going on for years, and there is very little of the reverse happening. I'll admit that the innovation is in Cali (for now--don't assume it'll last forever esp with the burgeoning sunbelt and growth of jobs in the southeast/Texas), but ownership isn't always local. And don't forget, much of the Venture Capital money going into the Bay Area is from companies out east--funding for the Bay Area's tech boom depends on a lot of big players in other parts of the country.

Once a company becomes successful, it often gets bought out. And most of the buyers are out east, while most of the buyees (is that a real word?) are in the west coast. It's not garbage, it's just a fact.

lets see some "facts" then. I will give you NUMBERS of the market capitalization of said industries if you do the analagous. Pointing out something about venture capital is a cheap way of playing a "6 degrees" game. It's just as easy for me to point out that such VC companies would be floundering if not for innovations such as these. its a two way street. and SF is not without its fair share of VC firms

Give me direct examples that CA is "owned by the east coast" and I will give you the same about my claim - real FACTS about the biotech and IT industry beginning from NIH grant, to year of nobel prize awarded, point of transition to loca industry, and ending with market-capitalizations of individual companies responsible for the economic growth these past two decades, as well as their respective industries.

I'd be interested to see how much you knew when you made your little comment.

For example, just in the past 2 weeks 3 California companies were bought out by companies in Chicago. And Chicago is just 1 city. 1 was an petrochemicals auto-supplier (Wynn Oil?), 1 was a software firm (Ingate Tech, I think?) and 1 will soon be the Pacific Stock Exchange. That's just in 2 weeks. I have been reading this kind of news all year, and I'm 100% sure the same amount (or even more) of buying has been occurring from corporations in NY, Boston, DC, Detroit, etc. Next on the list: Northrum Grumman--I guarantee you that by 2020 it will be owned by either Boeing or Lockheed Martin (perhaps another firm)

The funny thing is, you are trying to go head to head with me even though I already admitted that many great new innovations have come from Cali. Spare me your carefully thought-out list that you're dying to post--I already believe you, and I don't give a crap. But my statement is true.

to year of nobel prize awarded, point of transition to loca industry, and ending with market-capitalizations of individual companies responsible for the economic growth these past two decades, as well as their respective industries.

^Oh, and the greatest number of Nobel Prize winners in the US (by University) belongs to University of Chicago.

Also, you are wrong. VC investors do not NEED Bay Area innovation NEARLY as much as the innovators need the capital. There are plenty (actually, MORE!) of top universities and bright minds in numerous other places in the country, and if VC firms decided to invest in those areas, the talent would come to those places without a moment's hesitation. In fact, places like Chicago and other midwestern cities are fighting very hard for VC dollars (and are getting more every year, although PALE in comparison to the Bay Area) because they have a lot of Universities and talented minds, but are often overlooked by coastal-minded VC investment firms.

But slow headway is being made.