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Paulo2004 January 19th, 2005, 11:13 PM The city of Lisbon has an exceptional range of public transport, which includes trams (old and new), funiculars, a street elevator, river ferries (passenger and car), underground Metro, railways (suburban, national and international), buses (city and suburban) and aircraft. Virtually all of these modes of transport are undergoing major expansion at the present time, which makes them particularly interesting.
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GENIUS LOCI January 20th, 2005, 12:26 AM I said very good!
I like much old Lisbon trams :)
MSPtoMKE January 20th, 2005, 08:09 AM Excellent tour of an extremly interesting and varied transport system! Thanks for sharing.
Justme January 20th, 2005, 11:03 AM I noticed someone voted "very bad".
How on earth could anyone vote "very bad" for Lisbon's public transport infrastructure. Ok, it's not perfect, which is why I voted "Very Good", but it is still a wonderful, and one of the most diverse networks in the world.
The only reason I can imagine that someone voted "very bad" is because we are looking at a pathetic sad individual (probably some dumb kid) who has a political grudge against Portugal, or the people.
I'm sorry, but whoever you are, you are really pathetic and sad. You probably don't have any friends and spend your free time when mummy is watching wanking in front of the monitor. :lol:
Vertigo January 20th, 2005, 11:08 PM Can't judge the quality of it at this moment, haven't experienced it yet. But I do know Lisbon certainly has one of the most diverse public transport networks I've ever seen. Buses, old fashioned trams, modern low floor trams, a cable car, a people mover, ferries, suburban rail from two companies, funiculairs, elevators... It's amazing. :cool:
Paulo2004 January 22nd, 2005, 11:50 PM www
Arpels January 24th, 2005, 02:28 PM i can not vote for excellent but is Very good now, more 5/10 ears and i change mi vote (after the expansion of the underground metro) !! the old tram is in fact magnific :) (electric cars in Portuguese - carro electrico).
Petronius January 24th, 2005, 02:40 PM I vote for just "Good". My reasons are that I thikn it lacks a better information system.. it's very complicated to read those Bus maps , and metro plans are also a bit strange(they don't explain the connexions with the REFER lines very well, for instance).
I also think that the Metro network needs expansion (which is already being done). Until then I give it a 6.5/10.
MVL318 January 24th, 2005, 07:02 PM very good!!!
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Mo Rush January 24th, 2005, 07:14 PM EXCELLENT!!!
Kommandant Mark January 24th, 2005, 07:57 PM I can't even understand people who vote for "Very Good".
Compared to two cities I know very well, Belgrade & Toronto, Lisbon is LIGHT YEARS AHEAD!
What more does a city need to rate "excellent" in everyone's mind, really?
Arpels January 25th, 2005, 03:13 PM I can't even understand people who vote for "Very Good".
Compared to two cities I know very well, Belgrade & Toronto, Lisbon is LIGHT YEARS AHEAD!
What more does a city need to rate "excellent" in everyone's mind, really?
its almout perfect Kommandat Mark, the metro is a litle bit small, onli 44 stations, thats way i dont rate "execellent".
Fern January 25th, 2005, 03:18 PM Arpels o que ele esta a dizer e que Lisboa esta muito a frente e que deveriam votar excelente!!
BTW thanks Kommandant!! I take back what I said earlier about you- Sorry :)
Arpels January 25th, 2005, 04:42 PM i like the elevator to the ills, i never see nathing like that in the world, is amazing :)
Paulo2004 February 8th, 2005, 02:06 AM i like the elevator to the ills, i never see nathing like that in the world, is amazing :)
Lets hope the new metro stations bring closer all the Lisbon's Bairros.
Justme February 8th, 2005, 08:26 AM i like the elevator to the ills, i never see nathing like that in the world, is amazing :)
Actually Genoa in Italy could possibly exceed Lisbon here. It has a similar number of funicular's (I believe this is what ware called elevators in Lisbon), and it has 12 public elevators (as in lifts) compared to the 2 in Lisbon.
However, it is very hard finding information if all 12 are still working, where'as in Lisbon, they are very famous and in all the guide books.
MalagaXXI February 8th, 2005, 08:49 AM Very good. As Justme said, nothing is perfect. Very good public transport for a very nice city.
:okay:
queetz@home February 8th, 2005, 08:50 AM WHOAH! I never realize Lisbon has such an extensive collection of public transportation systems. I suppose its not surprising as most European cities have such an extensive network.
AmiDelf February 8th, 2005, 05:49 PM This is a must-to-go city :) It looks so cool,... :) All these old tramcars is just so nice :=) and they fit directly into the new modern city perfectly.
Fabio February 9th, 2005, 02:00 AM Exellent,
Lisboa is simply amazing, you got to love this metropolis.
:okay:
Vertigo February 9th, 2005, 11:39 PM Just back from Lisbon and I'm now sure the public transportation is excellent. :cool: Amazing coverage, almost everywhere you're close to a bus or tram stop. Those are kinda slow due, but the metro's provide for fast transportation. And ferries are an excellent way to see some great views from the city.
Reflex February 12th, 2005, 07:54 PM I agree with Arpels: now I vote "Very Good" but in 2010, with all the new metro stations and other new infrastructures concluded, I will change my vote to "excellent"!;)
Lisbon is really becoming better and better!!! Is actually one of the best european cities in almost all items! :okay:
Paulo2004 February 18th, 2005, 02:24 PM I agree with Arpels: now I vote "Very Good" but in 2010, with all the new metro stations and other new infrastructures concluded, I will change my vote to "excellent"!;)
Lisbon is really becoming better and better!!! Is actually one of the best european cities in almost all items! :okay:
That's true. Investment in this area is totally a must for future generations.
Arpels February 18th, 2005, 02:39 PM Actually Genoa in Italy could possibly exceed Lisbon here. It has a similar number of funicular's (I believe this is what ware called elevators in Lisbon), and it has 12 public elevators (as in lifts) compared to the 2 in Lisbon.
However, it is very hard finding information if all 12 are still working, where'as in Lisbon, they are very famous and in all the guide books.
yes elevator is a funicolor, the elevator's of Lisboan are very old, Genoa have funicolar's? :eek: amazing!!
Vertigo February 18th, 2005, 09:38 PM Genoa have funicolar's? amazing!!
Yes, see this (http://www.funimag.com/funimag07/GENOVA01.HTM) website about it.
Actually quite a lot of cities in the world have funiculars. What's special about Lisbon is that the funiculars run on the street like trams.
Arpels February 18th, 2005, 10:19 PM I see, is a litle bit diferent, thanks Vertigo :okay:
Justme February 21st, 2005, 01:00 AM yes elevator is a funicolor, the elevator's of Lisboan are very old, Genoa have funicolar's? :eek: amazing!!
Genoa also has public elevators such as the one below (some reports say as many as 12, although I don't know how many are still operating today)
http://www.italy.dk/turisme/liguria/genova-slideshow/billeder/9-elevator-castelletto-400.jpg
Mojito February 21st, 2005, 02:37 AM I like the variety of the network and its rolling stock. Old trams together with modern low-floor light rail vehicles, operating on the same tracks... I've seen it only in Milan before...And a beautiful metro system with modern stations and cars, but also ferries and funiculars. There are a few cities with ferries and fewer with funiculars.
Adderbak February 22nd, 2005, 03:31 PM well, i voted 'good', because there is one thing I miss in the Lisbon system and that is connections. You have to change systems very often, from Fertagus to metro to train to tram to funicular and back to suburban train... and the exchanges are not always very clear (and it is an absolut disaster to get to the Santa Apolonia station).
This was the case in 2002, maybe the missing link to Santa Apolonia and the rebuilding of the Rossio station has in the meantime become a reality and things are much better now?
Vertigo February 22nd, 2005, 03:36 PM This was the case in 2002, maybe the missing link to Santa Apolonia and the rebuilding of the Rossio station has in the meantime become a reality and things are much better now?
Not really. There''s still no metro to St. Apolonia, they're still building it.
Rossio itself is now finished, but the tunnels towards it are now being renovated, so still no trains to Rossio.
Paulo2004 March 1st, 2005, 02:57 PM Not really. There''s still no metro to St. Apolonia, they're still building it.
Rossio itself is now finished, but the tunnels towards it are now being renovated, so still no trains to Rossio.
Lisbon's metro is fast expanding and more underground stations and extended lines are being projected to slice through some of the Lisbon's hills and the airport, even though a new airport is planned some 40km north from the city centre.
Lss911 March 10th, 2005, 04:51 PM Buses are too slow! We have to wait too much for them!! It sucks a lot!
Underground metro is the oposite: works very well, fastly and with more stations "every day"!
Bitxofo March 10th, 2005, 06:26 PM Good!!
7/10
G.N March 10th, 2005, 06:55 PM EXCELLENT!
As well as people of Lisbon!
If you want to get to the other side of river- fertagus runs very often. Please show one of the most magnificent views I' ve ever seen if you have some - from the fertagus running through Ponte 25Abril! That's awesome feeling - this train is almost flying above the river!
Two inconvinient things that I found in Lisbon were:
-not enough signs-especially when you change from metro to cp or fertagus
-if you get off at Roma/Arreiro there's no signs how to get to metro station, what's more Roma and Arreiro stations are pretty far from the train
The rest: ELEVADORS (especially St Justa and Gloria), ELECTRICOS (esp. 28): GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paulo2004 March 26th, 2005, 01:53 AM http://images.nycsubway.org//i33000/img_33921.jpg
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urgel23 March 30th, 2005, 04:38 PM http://www.cityrailtransit.com/img/lisbon_network.gif
yonny April 3rd, 2005, 06:26 PM 9/10 , 10 if they build a new airport
Arpels April 3rd, 2005, 08:46 PM a new airport wll be nice!!
DonQui April 3rd, 2005, 08:49 PM Lisbon is getting a new airport, at Ota, right?
Nephasto April 4th, 2005, 12:50 AM ^ Right! But constructions hasn't started yet, and nothing is for sure yet...
Bitxofo April 4th, 2005, 01:20 AM Lisbon is getting a new airport, at Ota, right?
Where?
Any renderings or plans, please?
Obrigado!
:)
Fern April 4th, 2005, 02:43 AM It's around 30 miles from the city centre. I personally haven't seen any renderings and I think they'll only be released when the final decision is made, cos may still change their minds regarding the location!
dwdwone April 4th, 2005, 03:46 AM What pray tell is the people-mover looking vehicle?
DonQui April 4th, 2005, 03:50 AM Who the hell voted very bad??? :bash:
Paulo2004 April 23rd, 2005, 04:33 AM http://www.tramways.com/subways/lisbon/lm16max.jpg
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Petronius April 23rd, 2005, 04:58 AM Lisbon's transports are second best in the WOrld!! They only lose to Porto , also in Portugal!! And I'm not joking! :crazy2:
Paulo2004 May 4th, 2005, 01:26 AM http://www.nitrogenio.net/dbimg/foto-392.jpg
Bitxofo May 4th, 2005, 04:29 AM ^^Muito belo!!
;)
Obrigado
:)
Paulo2004 May 8th, 2005, 03:46 AM http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pt/station/Lisboa/Rossio/Lisbon_rossio1.jpg
JohnnyMass May 8th, 2005, 03:54 AM two more:
Bica Elevator (Funicular)
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Rossio train station
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Paulo2004 May 16th, 2005, 11:53 AM The Rossio Train Station is just wonderful. Thanks for posting the pic.
Paulo2004 January 11th, 2006, 11:40 PM I can't even understand people who vote for "Very Good".
Compared to two cities I know very well, Belgrade & Toronto, Lisbon is LIGHT YEARS AHEAD!
What more does a city need to rate "excellent" in everyone's mind, really?
And still improving its network. However, I do agree that its timetables need some improvement.
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