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İstanbul Büyükşehir Belediyespor



Broke ground: 28 November 1997[1]
Built: 1997–2002
Opened: 31 July 2002
Renovated: 2005

Architect: Michel Macary
Aymeric: Zublena


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Really nice stadium, you can see its made by the same guys that did the Stade de France, although I think I like this one better.

The roof looks like Stade de france's one. The grad looks like Madrid's Peineta stadium

I think its stupid to play a big game like a CL final in a stadium with running tracks around. You just don't get the same intimidating atmostphere in athletics stadiums.

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I think the stadium looks amazing but I have one question: For a relatively new stadium why does the cement look so dirty or "faded"? It almost looks like the stadium has to be painted still (especially from the outside).

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I think the stadium looks amazing but I have one question: For a relatively new stadium why does the cement look so dirty or "faded"? It almost looks like the stadium has to be painted still (especially from the outside).

I agree. The stadium doesn't look like it has been finished when you look at it from the outside.

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I agree. The stadium doesn't look like it has been finished when you look at it from the outside.
yes, i also do not like the outside...to much
the first proposal was better in that aspect, but all in all this is the best one IMO

Its nice!I hear the its biggest prob is that the roads leading to it were not finished on time when it opened,how s the access now???
Does it have a subway station?
what was the first proposal? Any pics?

Originally posted by LEAFS FANATIC

I think the stadium looks amazing but I have one question: For a relatively new stadium why does the cement look so dirty or "faded"? It almost looks like the stadium has to be painted still (especially from the outside).

I am agree, it doesn't look so nice :) . But let me explain something. The architects of this stadium wanted to keep it like this. I really don't know why! Actually this kind of thing are a new fashion at the architecture (keeping the bulding without painting). But it doesn't suit to the shape of this stadium. I think it must be painted gray. What is your opinion?

Actually the raod issue was how you heard. There was a raod problem before :). But now construction is going on. This is why any competition haven't been hosted by this stadium in this year. Around of this stadium was planned as an Oplympic Park. Surrouding of the stadium looks so empty now. By the way, metro construction is going on too.

the new roads
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the first propasal, it won, but later they decided for the 2nd place (frech architects)
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The problem with the first proposal was that only half of the stadium was covered. I think it was a good descision to go for the second proposal.

this winner project was the same...it became later the 2nd roof...
it won, because it was the cheaper one i think

With this stadium Turkey could have a very very interesting and serious bid for future olympics..Well its not as beautifull as athens olympic stadium,but it seems very nice designed and huge.

Amazing design!!!!I just love it....It`s a diferent kind of aesthetic comparing with athens!this one breads purity of lines! This seems like a temple...a true temple of football! I prefer this one, in what concers about his look, instead of Athens or Sidney!

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Friends, your coments amazed me :) Because this stadium has been critized so much in Turkey. Actually French architetcure magazines showed it as a master piece, but we, Turks always tried to find some negativities.

Turkish Olympic Bid lost last time again. Although the half of all complexes are already ready for any Olympics. And if New York wins 2012, this stadium will have a chance for 2016, otherwise will have to wait till 2020 that it will already be an old fashioned design and need renovation. We will see :)

I really like the stadium. It appeals to me alot... Especially shots from the air.


The only thing I don't like, and agree with other comments here is the outside and overall "bland" look of only concrete. It makes it look very dull in that respect. But seats and concrete the colors can always be changed.

Superb stadium - amongst the top 5 in Europe.

Just a shame that they decided to install grey seats and to leave so much concrete uncovered. The same approach worked well with the Stade de France, but is taken a bit too far here. I understand the look that architects were aiming for, I just think they've made it a bit too strerile and dull, and could have drastically improved the feel of the stadium with coloured seats and some cladding.

Still, will make a fitting venue for the biggest club football event in the world in May.

it is planned to clos the behind stands when Istanbul will get the Olympics....
maybe it will look so...the capacity will be around 94.000-98.000
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i hope they will aslo do something outside.....it needs more glass for example

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huge ramp to the main stand
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ISTANBUL might struggle to win the 2016 bid it should go for 2020/2024 and it will be in tough competition with cape town perhaps also BA and some others...

If New York wins for 2012, Istanbul will have a better chance for 2016. But during this time we will prepare the Olympic Park and some other complexes.

But after this year. This stadium will be host of many big organizations. Champions Leauge Final will be the first step. :)

this is really a giant stadium. when will all construction be finished?

It sure is a nice stadium - saw it up close at MiniaTürk ;), but when I went to Halkalı, the stadium looked like it was in the middle of nowhere. I mean it's pretty far from the major areas of population isn't it?
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Bana sorarsan cahennemin dibinde.
Which reminds me, when are they going to replace the trains that go from Sirkeci to Halkalı? I mean some of them are 50 years old now.

the loction is not good, but they are working.
First they plant more than 41000 7 year old trees
later the ugly houses will be demolished. 2000-3500 new Apartmenst will be built

I guess I'm one of the few that likes the 'raw' look of the concrete, and the grey seats really complement that. In that sense it reminds me a lot of the TWA Terminal in New York, designed by Eero Saarinen. Its not as curvy, although they both have somewhat of a wingstructure. In total shape the Palavela in Torino for the 2006 wintergames show an even bigger resemblance in both texture and shape.

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Allahim yarabbim,bu fotografi göndereni tanimiyorum ama.... !Biraz daha sol tarafa kaydirsaydin ya,gecekondularin hepsi cikardi.

it has an interesting architecture. Looks like Miagi Stadium in Japan... When will all constructions be ready? When will the construction of Olympic Park will start? I'd like to see other Olympic preparations of Istanbul.

What's happening in Istanbul?You're building best and biggest of everthing.Airports,F1 circuit,stadiums,Arena and many skyscrapers.Actually I like the grey seats the only thing which I don't like is that's it's not europe's biggest :D

it has an interesting architecture. Looks like Miagi Stadium in Japan... When will all constructions be ready? When will the construction of Olympic Park will start? I'd like to see other Olympic preparations of Istanbul.
actualy the construction of the stadium is finished.
there are some small works for the olympic park.
the Sinan Erdem Dome (22,500) is also supposed for the Olympics
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=128808

I would like to see the olympic games in this city and in this stadium...Maybe in 2016 or 2020,when Turkey will be in the safe environment of EU.

Originally posted by dANIEL2004

I would like to see the olympic games in this city and in this stadium...Maybe in 2016 or 2020,when Turkey will be in the safe environment of EU.

Daniel Thank you so much for your wishes :) But there are some details. If any European country wins 2012 Istanbul won't have any chance for 2016, but 2020 is okay. It means 15 later and this stadium will be really old :) So we will need to build a new one. By the way, we can renovate this one as well. But absolutely it will need a modernization.

BTW I don't think Turkey will join the EU. I think the EU is just distracking Turkey and will say some excuses when the time comes.

i do not think that a new stadium will built. it will be enlarged and mondernized.
i hope it will get a glass facade

Athens stadium was also an old stadium...

When we get the olympics, a make up might be enough...

Proposed Stadium for Istanbul

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Proposed Olympic Plaza

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i never swa this pucs..thank you mo
the satdium they built is better....i think the olympic plaza wont be realized...never heard of it

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as you can see i posted some more pics.....

Heres a link: http://www.viewbyview.com/html/ist_park_fly.html
it shows an animation of the istanbul olympic park...quicktime is needed

lol Mo you know more things about the Istanbul Olympics than we :D
as we cans ee they changed a lot in the project..the stadium is new and its more green

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Cool stadium. Sort of reminds me of Autzen.

whtas Autzen?

Not exactly. The shape just reminds me of it.

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come on you reds!!

The roof is impressive but the external facade is one of the worst in the world, and the stadium is a concrete jungle. What were they thinking? If it was built in the 70's you would understand but in the 00's, it just seems strange. I also think it looks really cheap, there are no high class finishes and it's looks like a skeleton stadium with only a sub structure in place.

Were there only limited funds available to build the ground?

it looks really cheap,
It's a fabulous looking stadium! And the fact that its in the middle of nowhere is cool too - like a space ship landing on the top of a hill.
May the best team win!

Yeah that middle of nowhere thingy is really cool, too bad UEFA doesn't share your view.
Fears that the Ataturk Olympic Stadium would prove unfit to stage the final appeared justified last night. The lack of public transport, adequate infrastructure and basic preparations left Uefa officials privately embarrassed at the choice of stadium. Chaotic traffic policing saw one access road closed, stretching journey times to three hours and technicians battled power cuts while struggling to connect telephone lines for reporters and broadcasters in time for kick-off.

no matter what is said of the traffic etc, the stadium glowed and vibrated with excitement last night and staged possibly one of the greatest champions league comebacks in history, welldone liverpool you are true champions, welldoe istanbul, although the stadium has an athletics track the atmosphere was electrifying, i certainly would hope istanbul gets its chance at the olympic games in 2024 after the games have been to africa and south america

the article isn't from the UFA. its from the Guardian.
A lot of my friends whre there and everbody said, there was no big traffic, because everbody took the buses instead of their own car

Mmmhhh.. i wonder how many of the Milan oder Reds supporters took their own car to Istanbul ? ;-)
I also heard the only viable way to get even near the stadium was by taxi, who dropped off their passengers early. Then everybody had to march for 30 minutes. Public transport (or something that deserves this name) was non-existent.
A little bit to spartanic for a final venue, IHMO.
And please... no "That's anti-turkish propaganda"-bull$...

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lol...i saw yesterday around 60 buses on TV..and this was onyl TV ;)

yes, the stadium has no metro yet
but why the UEFA decided to host the final here and to give it 5 stars?

but why the UEFA decided to host the final here and to give it 5 stars?
Because, irrespective of it's location, this is a fabulous stadium! It's new, very high capacity, fantastic design etc etc, it has the best of facilities and is regarded as one of the best stadiums in Europe already. :cheers:
Thats why UEFA awarded it with 5*, they obviously didn't consider its location and transportation links! :D
Give it time, trees have been planted etc etc other projects will surely begin and this area will blossom :)

transportation are one og the biggest aspects
thats also the reason why the celtic park isn't a 5 star stadium

The basd thing about this stadium (Ataturk) is that it looks somewhat dirty. Is the outside unfinished?

yes, the outside should be more glass
IMO the whole stadium doesn't look finished :(

Because, irrespective of it's location, this is a fabulous stadium! It's new, very high capacity, fantastic design etc etc, it has the best of facilities and is regarded as one of the best stadiums in Europe already. :cheers:
Thats why UEFA awarded it with 5*

A stadium with a running track should never be given 5 stars by UEFA.

The design is just perfect, when I first saw it I was like,, WOW,
I now that this stadium was built to host the olympic games, but for football, well the stands are really far away.
I also have a question. usually what kind of events take place here, turquish league games, concerts, .....????

I think the lowest ranks should be steeper.

Its definitely a great asset to a growing city like Istanbul. I think the UEFA Cup will be back.

Except from the roof on the main stand the stadium looks somehow cheap and unfinished imho. The main stand looks quite impressive to me.

The stadium has been heavily criticised in the UK press following the game, largely due to it's transport links or complete lack of them and souless appearance.

DiggerD21
yes, thast true..the first tier is only 18°. But i think thats normal for Olympic Stadiums?


Zizu
yes, i like onyl the main stadium and the roof ;(
but, you know. Money :D
as i know, it is planned to close the stadn behind the goals + better galls facade. so the capacity will be around 90.000-94.000. But only if Istanbul gets the Olympic games

Sparks
the UEFA were satisfied.
Actually according to my friends, there was no traffic problem, because +40.000 tok the buses.
Some were in 15 min at home :D
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yes the stadium is not totally finished and its just little part of Olympic village and for sure its design, style etc... will change again, i think when the Istanbul takes olympics. stadium needs a make up, like Athens olympic stadium(how was it before the olympics?)
and it has traffic problem because it is outside of city, its on an empty land and its hard to call there; Istanbul, because its very far away from city centre.

btwi heard UEFA was very happy and glad about organiztion,and that match increased Turkey's chance for euro2012.

I think its stupid to play a big game like a CL final in a stadium with running tracks around. You just don't get the same intimidating atmostphere in athletics stadiums.


Indeed....the total capacity for the final was just ofer 65,000

If you look....the bottom 8 rows or so were empty the whole way around the stadium!

actually the attendance was 70024
and this is normal

2003 Final
capacity of Old Trafford decreased from 68.174 to 62.295 due to additional press and VIP seating needs for Champions League Final

2001 Final
capacity of Guiseppe Meazza decreased from 85.775 to 74.500 due to additional press and VIP seating needs for Champions League Final

2000 Final
capacity of Stade de France decreased from 78.782to 73.000 due to additional press and VIP seating needs for Champions League Final

hmm, will there be a metro extension to the stadium, Ikiteli area? And are there any new developments around the site?

metro is u/c i think
a lot of apartments are also u/s there

I think its stupid to play a big game like a CL final in a stadium with running tracks around. You just don't get the same intimidating atmostphere in athletics stadiums.

The most important thing for a CL final is that the stadium offers a great backdrop for the millions watching the game on tv. Closeness to the pitch for the "few" spectators on place doesn´t really matter. And believe me, the athmosphere in a athletics stadium can be great when it´s full.

Svempa99, very well said :applause:

Quite nice

As I heard today, low stands will rise up. A new construction period is waiting for us

Kuvvaci, what is going to be happen?
low stand?

nice stadium.............

yes, the TFF want to expand the stadium
the stands behind the goals will get 2nd tier
according to a member if stadyum.org (he read it in a newspaper), the capacity will ve nearly 100,000!!!?????

btwi heard UEFA was very happy and glad about organiztion,and that match increased Turkey's chance for euro2012.


Yes and no. As I wrote in the other topic, the atmosphere, city and game were great, but some things were lacking and transportation was horrible. I am hearing and reading some pretty bad pre-game stories. Although, I don't know if you can blame Turkey and Istanbul for what happened. I would put the blame on UEFA as they picked the venue after evaluating it....


But does anybody know if these things were true or did anybody experience them?



http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/story/0,6903,1495127,00.html


The real road to Istanbul - to the Atatürk Olympic Stadium, that is - is so new that the white lines were still being painted on the morning of the match and in their haste to complete the project the contractors have also managed to coat litter, rubble and parts of the grassy verge in white. There is nothing wrong with the Atatürk Stadium, or the new roads leading to it, except for their location miles out of the city, nowhere near a railway line or any other sign of civilisation.

Istanbul's new showpiece is already unloved and unwanted, so much so that Fenerbahçe fans have given it the thumbs-down after two seasons of playing there and Turkey players have refused to play a World Cup tie against Greece - their biggest game in qualifying - at the Atatürk next month.

There is a limited market for journalists' hard-luck stories, so the following examples will be brief. We had to go to the stadium twice on the same day, first to get accredited, then to the match. In the process we managed to abandon three taxis. The first, in the morning, actually abandoned us. The driver expressed his frustration with successive police roadblocks so forcibly that he got himself arrested; he was hauled out of his cab and fined. Even though we had been in his cab for almost an hour, we were miles from the ground and although we were lucky enough to hail a second taxi in an unpromising location, our problems were far from over.

After taking us to the stadium, our new driver tried several ways of returning to Istanbul, only to be defeated on each occasion by blocked roads or dead ends. He was eventually reduced to stopping to ask one of the few locals for directions to the road to Istanbul. The poor man had been a cabbie for 10 years and had never encountered anything like the venue for the 2005 Champions League final.

After that experience it was clear that the evening journey, with about 80,000 others going the same way, would be, as the taxi driver put it 'catastroph, catastroph'. Our first cab of the evening could not even get out of a gridlocked city centre and although the second managed to break out of the business district, the journey to the stadium was a painful two-hour crawl that eventually came to a grinding halt with the Atatürk a couple of miles distant. Uefa certainly know how to pick a venue.

One hour before kick-off the scene immediately around the stadium resembled something from a science fiction film. In mounting darkness, a queue of vehicles - mostly taxis and buses - disgorged their passengers as they stuttered, bumper to bumper, along the length of the two main approach roads to the stadium. Their passengers climbed out and walked - some as far as five miles - along verges or across fields of baked mud to the stadium, shining like a recently landed spaceship in the distance.

All those whose journeys involved overland travel from Bulgaria or £500 taxi rides from Turkey's holiday destinations deserved better than such Third-World chaos at the end of their road to Istanbul. One fan, who had travelled from Austria, screamed 'Ice age! Ice age!' in frustration at the facilities. Liverpool fans, advised to arrive early, had got through without any bother five hours before kick-off, only to find no food or drink - not even water - on sale at their end of the stadium and many could not even buy a match programme to pass the time. Apparently, someone stole most of them.

i think this will ruin the stadium, it has a beauty to it with its soaring side stands. i dont want any end expansion

I agree. Not only that but 80,000 seems to perfect size to me. No need to spend money to enlarge it, it won't have enough use will it? And the Olympics itself assuming Istanbul gets it doesn't need more than 80,000.... All it needs is to be painted and bring some color into the picture. (outside)

All it needs is to be painted and bring some color into the picture. (outside)
Couldn't agree more :)

I wish they had waited one year and held the CL final in Fenerbahces stadium. It is better for football and there would have been no transportation problems.

This was a review posted by a Liverpool fan at the game.

If you believe any of the rubbish that frequently comes out of UEFA, then you'd be forgiven for thinking that the champions league final was played in Istanbul. Quite simply it wasn't - it was played miles away. Imagine UEFA choosing London as the host city, but then finding out that the final was actually being played in Gillingham.

It took 2 hours to get from the centre of Istanbul to the stadium - and the only way of getting there was by road. No trains or trams, just small road's already congested with commuters having to transport 60,000 supporters from the city centre to the stadium. It was certainly a good day to be a taxi driver.

The final 5 miles of the journey took up half of the time as thousands of vehicles crammed into two lanes in the fight to get to the stadium. This was very enjoyable though as the excitement started to build, the journey there only halted every so often by people needing to get the buses for a piss, or for taxis to stop in the middle of the road while the passengers ran round to the boot to get another crate of beer! But the most enjoyable part about the journey there was seeing the locals lining the streets, wearing red, applauding us and wishing us good luck. Home made banners had been made and men, women and children had bought replica shirts and scarfs to wear. I'd never seen such a sight. To see the locals so happy almost brought a tear to my eye, it made me very proud to be a red seeing these people, from a poor area, so excited. That lasted until we turned the corner and headed up the valley to the ground - surrounded only by dirt as the road cut through a hill. The area looked unfinished as Turkey's olympic bid had failed so only the stadium was built.

Even the car parks looked unfinished. The buses were dumped a few hundred metres from the ground and we had to make our way across wasteland as the huge stadium greeted us.

It looked smaller than it actually was as the lowest tier was below ground level, aside from some entertainment provided by UEFA there was nothing to see or do outside the ground so everyone headed straight in - via a stop at one of the hundreds of portaloo's provided!

Inside the concourse, the stadium felt typically new. Exposed grey concrete and the usual standardised stadium feel. In the seating areas however the ground looked superb - even if there was a running track and the pitch was miles away. It was already quite full and those with banners had got in early to take the best specs to show off their banners. The Milan fans (all 13,000 of them) were in place preparing their choreographed display of colour and flags.

The atmopshere continued to build as the stadium became fuller and the sky grew darker, then the excitement turned to nerves as the pre match entertainment seemed to last forever.

The floodlights in each of the corners illuminated the arena which was about the host one of the greatest games in the history of football. Barely a seat was empty and the stadium began to feel very impressive. The combination of reds, whites, yellows and blacks brought the stadium to life, a sharp contrast to how the stadium normally looks - it brings a whole new meaning to the word 'bland'. A mass of grey. The only really unique thing about the stadium is the roof of the west stand, crescent shaped like the Turkish flag.

Visiting this stadium on any other occasion would probably leave you feeling very underwhelmed, but both sets of supporters there on the 25th may 2005 deserve credit for creating a superb atmosphere, and the players deserve credit for giving us all something to shout about.

It is hard to see why this stadium was given 5 star's by UEFA. In terms of its design its pretty good (Though the seats leave a lot to be desired. They don't fold up if so you jump up and down you bang the back of your legs! Hence a lot of people with big bruises on Thursday morning!). As a football stadium its less than ideal as you're a long way away from the pitch, but this was designed for the Olympics and UEFAs backward politics played a huge part in choosing Turkey to host this years final. The location of the stadium and the transport infrastructure available is terrible, the worst of any new ground I've ever been to. I thought getting to Pride Park was difficult when it was first built but this place really did take the piss!

Had it not been for the atmosphere that was created, this stadium would have left quite a poor impression - and had the second half of the game been the same as the first I wouldn't want to even hear the words Ataturk Stadium ever again. Thankfully though, I left with a good impression of the stadium, a great impression of Istanbul, and an even better impression of the locals who were great hosts. There are many better cities with better stadia, much more suitable than Istanbul, but on this occasion UEFA got away with what really, was a poor choice of venue.

I must say that I totally agree about the stadium.

It's not in Istanbul.

Looks like a giant space ship which fell among a sea of shanties.

It's almost impossible to go there.

I went there only once (to the opening game of the stadium between Galatasaray and Olympiakos) and I will never go there for a second time.

They should've built it somewhere closer to the city center (like Maslak for instance), but not among the shanties of Ikitelli.

Terrible location, terrible planning, huge waste of money...

yes, the TFF want to expand the stadium
the stands behind the goals will get 2nd tier
according to a member if stadyum.org (he read it in a newspaper), the capacity will ve nearly 100,000!!!?????

Instead of dumping more money for this stadium, let's build another one in Maslak.

The stadium itself is nice though

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I wish we could "teleport" it from Ikitelli to Maslak. :D

ther subjects of this article have been critcized so much here too. However everything will be different in the near future. Because metro is reaching there and with some other cmplexes, this area will be different...

Thanks for the story, Sparks. :) Exactly what I was wondering, good report. It was a poor venue picked by UEFA (and that is UEFA's fault, not Turkey) but they got bailed out by nice hosts, nice city and the best football game I have ever seen.

Oh and congrats to Liverpool once again, the best final ever.


PS I hear Stelios may be joining next year.

The stadium itself was great, the immidiate area around the stadium was diabolical, the distance from the city and the transport infrastructure was appalling, the facilities for fans arriving early was disgraceful.

UEFA cocked up big time here, Ataturk should not have hosted the final.

The local organisers also cocked up, why did Liverpool fans have the totally inadequate and useless Sabhia Gokcen "Airport" (airport ha) as the main point of entry and departure into Istanbul? Why was there no food or drink available for travelling fans at the stadium or "airport"?

Istanbul and the organisers were lucky that they had Liverpool and Milan fans in town.

Man United would have destroyed the place with that treatment.

For all that and the thieving taxi drivers though Liverpudlians loved Istanbul and the Turkish people, it's never going to be the most glamourous or sophisticated of cities but it's full of charm, hospitality and warmth.

Well done to the Turks, great stadium (once you're in), but fuck off UEFA and the organisers. Oh and BUILD SOME ROADS, METROS AND COMMERCIAL OUTLETS TO AND AROUND THE STADIUM!

The stadium looks great, but it needs a second tier of seats at each end, and dump that stupid track around the field. This should be a soccer only stadium. Get the seats a little closer to the field.

Originally Posted by www.sercan.de

yes, the TFF want to expand the stadium
the stands behind the goals will get 2nd tier
according to a member if stadyum.org (he read it in a newspaper), the capacity will ve nearly 100,000!!!?????

SDK4
i think it will get a 2nd tier :D

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1400/1443347360_5cf1f224f0_o.jpg

Why is it called olympic if it hasn't hosted an olympics?

:D
It was it is proposed fot the Olympics
they can't call it Atatürk Stadium
because there are 1000 Atatürk stadiums

Capacity has been reduced to 75,486 (Before it was 80,597). Thanks to the Architects :ohno:

looking to the "best" endzone stands in the world
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2055/2262148307_3595de5995_b.jpg
bigger one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunumer/2262148307/sizes/o/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2129/2262152073_35ab35fccb_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunumer/2262152073/sizes/o/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2272/2262947330_63a007f83c_b.jpg
bigger one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunumer/2262947330/sizes/o/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2392949457_ba2d1ba34b_b.jpg
bigger one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/korayatasoy/2392949457/sizes/o/

i want to see an olympic games there!!!

With the current NOC i doubt it + the stadium (so also the planned Olympic park and villge) are too far away (25km)

Architects wanted an open and fresh stadium :ohno:

the main stand is the best part
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2393780556_8c83291d94_b.jpg
bigger one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/korayatasoy/2393780556/sizes/o/

The curved roof looks nice, but the straight one is just horrible.
The distance between pitch and stands is huge even for a stadium with athletic tracks.

Can't believe UEFA gave the CL finals to this stadium :ohno:

Both stands have curved tier? Which one is the straight one?

IMO the distance is big, because the stands are paralel to the pitch (Beijing, Sydney) and not oval like Berlin or Athens.

I still hope that this stadium will be demolished

Both stands have curved tier? Which one is the straight one?

IMO the distance is big, because the stands are paralel to the pitch (Beijing, Sydney) and not oval like Berlin or Athens.

I still hope that this stadium will be demolished

The fact there is "Olympic" in the title is somewhat expectant, don't you think? I'm not doubting Istanbul hosting the Olympics (I'm sure it will by 2032), but by that stage anyway this stadium will be outdated and a new one would need to be built anyway.

Aside from that the IOC is not hugely appreciative of stadiums that do this either.

i want to see an olympic games there!!!

an EURO final is okay for me...

sercan what will happoen if it is demolished... Don't you think renovation is better. If a top class architect plays on it, it will be a wonderful stadium. Look at what Calatrava did in Athens, or what will happen to Camp Neu

i can't see my post?
"Both stands have curved tier? Which one is the straight one?

IMO the distance is big, because the stands are paralel to the pitch (Beijing, Sydney) and not oval like Berlin or Athens.

I still hope that this stadium will be demolished
"
We do not need such a stadium.
Londons mode would be the best.
Built a new one (if possible at Maltepe at the european site)
80-90k at the olympics
than you can reduce it to a top class 20k athletic stadium like the new one in Zürich

i can't see my post?
"Both stands have curved tier? Which one is the straight one?

IMO the distance is big, because the stands are paralel to the pitch (Beijing, Sydney) and not oval like Berlin or Athens.

I still hope that this stadium will be demolished
"
We do not need such a stadium.
Londons mode would be the best.
Built a new one (if possible at Maltepe at the european site)
80-90k at the olympics
than you can reduce it to a top class 20k athletic stadium like the new one in Zürich

"Both stands have curved tier? Which one is the straight one?


I was talking about the roof, not the tiers ;)

Was there no heavy opposition when the plans for this stadium were presented?

sercan...it won't be happen...

so, what do you offer for current situation, when you speak away from fantacies?

Sorry lpioe, my fault :(
Actually they just build it. Maybe there were some people against it, but the powerfull people supported it.
Everybody wanted a big and modern stadium.

They could add a 2nd tier at the endzone stands. I think it is also proposed for the Olympics.
My dream would be to built the same "main stand" stand at the east stand and "connect" them at the endzone stands. Interior would be like Beijing one.
They could also lower the pitch. So you would ~94k at Athetic organisations and 110k at football matches

I like the shape of the curved roof. Does it mean somthing? like the moon on the national flag or representing the religon of Islam?

it represents the moon of the turkish flag

http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/6348/olim512re2lc.png

This stadium is a complete disaster, currently the most horrible stadium in Europe imo. The shape of both roofs, the huge distance between the stands and the pitch, the anti-architecture, can it get any worse? This is the ultimate example of how a stadium should not be.
What I do not know is if this stadium (as we see it now) is a one-time project or is it the result of several transformations over a long period?
40 - 50 years ago this would have been a 'modern' stadium, but I can't imagine architects creating such a tragedy nowadays.
It's the kind stadium you only expect to find in countries like China, 30 years ago...
The other new Turkish stadiums (Gala, Fenerb,..) are very intersting though.

Zeno, exactly.
Everything is really bad.
Other proposals.
http://www.arkitera.com/v1/diyalog/haydarkarabey/b15wolympic2.jpg

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/184/ol3jk1.png

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1245/ol5vc1.png

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9165/olnz4.png




II
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/244/istanbul1iv5.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5986/istanbulfacovd0.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9781/istanbulfacsut8.jpg

All of these proposals would never make it on my favorite stadium list. It is clear out of the proposals however that the ones who ordered the stadium to be built, wanted a design which is pretty close to the one which was actally build. There is not an extreme difference between all the proposals. Still I hope the people visiting this stadium in Turkey and from around the world are happy with it.

Happy? :D
Damn, even in summer months its f.. cold, because of the North-south wind (yeah, those stands are als the 1 tier stands).

Its just "damn, since 1940s we wanted to built a big stadium. Now we can built one for just 135 mil USD. So lets built it".
And thanks to the french architects it has got many faults :ohno:.
IMO there are 2 Solutions.

a) destroy the whole stadium and built a new one (like London 2012, 80,000-> 25,000) closer to the city

b) destroy the north, south and east stands. Build something like the main stand. + big roof.


a) i my favourite

Unbelievable....the architect of this olimpic stadium is the same architect of Stade de France.

This architect must be crazy :nuts:

There are rumours that they have never visited the city and the area.
Just placed this project there.
Unbelieveable to creat a 1 tier north and south stand although there is a huge north-south wind :ohno:

The beautiful main stand (huge pic)

http://i25.tinypic.com/j1516p.jpg

Metro works
http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/tr/images/metro1.jpg
http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/tr/images/metro2.jpg
http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/tr/images/metro3.jpg
http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/tr/images/metro4.jpg

I heard there were plans for this place to be extended if they did win the Olympic bid, with additional tiers added to the sides, anyone have renders of it?

anaa,geçen büyük şehir belediye maçına arabayla gittiğimde ordan girişe izin vermemişlerdi,kapalıydı,sürekli toz dumandı,terse yönlendirmişlerdi,bizde anlamamıştık,demekki metro inşaatı varmış :D çaktırmadan yapmışlar bile...

I heard there were plans for this place to be extended if they did win the Olympic bid, with additional tiers added to the sides, anyone have renders of it?

Yes, its planned
But there are no pics.
NOC and the sports ministry said it 3 years ago. According to them capacity would be 100,000
But after this was before they reduced the capacity from 80.597 to 75,486.
So its maybe 95k.
But currently they are building again a protection system because of the wind :ohno:

I still think that they shoul destroy all 3 stand (mainstand should stay)
It could have a same bowl like the Beijing one.


Actually the neighborhood is getting better every year. Many new projects like this one will be built in this area
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=21175003#post21175003

Some Informations about the complex
Additional Facilities...
In the aggregate, there are additional facilities that cover 240.929 m2. These are :
- 2 atletism pists for training and warmup . 19.700 m2
- 1 Ground with the grass for training and warmup.
- Anfitheater in 600m2 for 300 persons.
- A closed ground in 16.000 m2 for 13 events.

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ANFITHEATER...

At our stadium, there is an anfitheater with the luxurious seats and the openable tables in 266m2 for 300 persons
There are the bar and the vestiary services, the waiting room with the tv, 3 simultaneous interpretation rooms and the technical service rooms,an huge active display screen and the presentation podium in this anfitheater that is connected directly to the parking garage.

http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/eng/images/anfitiyatro1.jpg

http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/eng/images/anfitiyatro2.jpg


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ROOMS OF THE PRESS MEMBERS

The Atatürk Olympic Stadium acqiures the grandstand where the press members can work effectively and comfortable, and the rooms.
The grandstand for 669 the press members with the internet connection possibility and tv connection.
A conference room of the press for the sporties, the trainers and thecoaches at 5th floor in 96m2.
A interview room with the direct connection to the conference room of the press for the live broadcast
A furnished lounge where 140persons can work sedentary, where the press members stand connect directly with included the bar services and the mail boxes and where there are the phone and internet connection for each press members in 286m2.
2 call rooms used also mixed zone at the ground floor.
The press members rooms for 20 persons with the internet connection.
7 commentator rooms for the radio ad tv broadcasts.

http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/eng/images/basin2.jpg

http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/eng/images/basin4.jpg

The Meeting Education Rooms...

At The Atatürk Olympic Stadium, there are 8 education rooms; 4 for 36 persons and 4 for 24 persons.
Also, there is an assembly hall for 270 persons. All of this numbers are for one table to each participants.
So if the tables are cancelled, the capacities increase doubly.
http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/eng/images/sinif1.jpg

http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/eng/images/sinif2.jpg

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The Presidency Lounge...

At the presidency lounge connected directly to the grandstands with 2 floors , there are 2 balcons with the bar service and the luxurous seats to 100 persons, an reception area granit covered in 100 m2, one workroom in 40m2 and one rest room
You can access to the presidency lounge with using one service road that is driven through inside of the building.
http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/eng/images/vip1.jpg

http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/eng/images/vip2.jpg

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The First Aid Rooms...

There are 6 first aid clinics for the spectators in our Stadium.
Five of those are located in the way of circumscribing the stadium in the second and third floors and each of them contemporary can serve to two people.
For the players there are 2 clinics in the floor of changing rooms.Those clinics are based on the space of 25 m2 and have all necessary equipment to interfere immediately the players.
Apart from that,there is a big health center built on the space of 190 m2 in the first floor which includes doctor and nurse rooms,toilets,two observation rooms with 8 beds ,the examination room,another observation room with 11 beds and the waiting room

http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/eng/images/ilkyardim1.jpg

http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/eng/images/ilkyardim3.jpg

added a 2nd small tier at the endzone stands
capacity:
75,486 -> 81,986
(with the old capacity of 80,597 -> 87,097)

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/5419/70770846sa2.jpg

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/9090/73204691wt7.jpg

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/4764/14910478lk8.jpg

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6808/28584089dn0.jpg

You should work on the connections between both 2nd tiers as the new one being "behind" old of the main stand will block views to many people. But that's detail. Anyhow- it would really help the bowl shape... But is this viable with the stadium, using your words :) in general is a mistake?

i looked it
max. only 20 seats would be blocked :D
So i am better than the french architects ( +5k seats!!)


Although i do not like the current one
i have to say that i've changed my mind
The area will be amazing in the next 5-10 years.
So many new projects around the stadium
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=21175003#post21175003
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=369492

As i know its planned to close the endzone stands like i did. So this stadium and the area will look different at the 2024 Olympics :D

BTW
If they lower the pitch you can add a 25k new "1st2 tier
capacity would be 105,736
I think than it is also possible to install again some of the +5k seats.
So, capacity could also reach 110k :D

Would be a great national stadium and cup final stadium

But on the other hand, Turkey is a big country.
Cup final should be played every year in a different city and the national Team should play also in different cities.

Istanbul ís too much in the west part of Turkey.

i looked it
max. only 20 seats would be blocked :D
So i am better than the french architects ( +5k seats!!)


Although i do not like the current one
i have to say that i've changed my mind
The area will be amazing in the next 5-10 years.
So many new projects around the stadium
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=21175003#post21175003
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=369492

As i know its planned to close the endzone stands like i did. So this stadium and the area will look different at the 2024 Olympics :D

BTW
If they lower the pitch you can add a 25k new "1st2 tier
capacity would be 105,736
I think than it is also possible to install again some of the +5k seats.
So, capacity could also reach 110k :D

Would be a great national stadium and cup final stadium

But on the other hand, Turkey is a big country.
Cup final should be played every year in a different city and the national Team should play also in different cities.

Istanbul ís too much in the west part of Turkey.

Then it's starting to look juicy :)
But if they dig the pitch deeper, then the current 1st tier would have to be made steeper, wouldn't it? It's pretty flat.

As for the cup, I support the national stadium model. No matter if the ground is in the east or west... National should hold most important games, that's why it's national. But surely not all national team games. Those shoud travel around.

i would just stretch the current 1st tier

yeah, important games could be played here
But what will happen if they expand Aslantepe and / or Sükrü Saracolgu to 70-80k? :D

70-80k football stadium vs a "bowl" 105-110k stadium

just need to lower the pitch 7,2m
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2874/unbenanntds7.jpg
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9471/37095043sm3.jpg

28 rows can be added

just need to lower the pitch 7,2m
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2874/unbenanntds7.jpg
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9471/37095043sm3.jpg

28 rows can be added
(...)
70-80k football stadium vs a "bowl" 105-110k stadium

But if you add 28 rows to the existing (some 30+?), than the existing communications routes will be far too little. So what? Dig new routes to make exits half way or just double the number of routes? Pretty challenging.

As for the choice between 70-80 football specific and 110 national bowl - I have no doubt to choose the 11 national bowl :)

current 1st tier has got 32 rows at the main stand and 47 rows at the other ones
I think we need just more exits
could look like one of the big college stadiums in the USA

But you are right. Exits should be at the first row of the current stadium.
= destroy current 1 tier

but maybe it wouln'd be a problem :D

= destroy current 1 tier
but maybe it wouln'd be a problem :D

If it's built like the former Soccer City (FNB was it's name?) than this indeed should be too much of a problem. But would the stadium then remain for athletics as well?

it could remain by using the proposed wembley systems (platforms)

so a new steeper 1st tier would be better?
or just dig tunnels under the 1st tier? :D

so a new steeper 1st tier would be better?
or just dig tunnels under the 1st tier? :D

Depends on what effect you want to have I guess ;)
But seriously, I doubt the sightlines of the "old" first tier would be satisfying, so I would tear it down...

good work

maybe u could make it for fifa 08 :D

Depends on what effect you want to have I guess ;)
But seriously, I doubt the sightlines of the "old" first tier would be satisfying, so I would tear it down...
i hate you :D
damn
now i have to change my stadium :D
1st tier is 15°-20°

But with the new steeper 1st tier i would still extend it.
Otherwise the new "1st" tier would be to flat

Don't know how to create it for a game :)
Actually i do not think that this will gonna happen

expanding Aslantepe to 80-100k would be better :D

with a steeper 1st tier (19° and 2m lowered) the new 1st tier will be smaller.
just 18 rows
capacity would be only ~ max. 100k :(

EDIT:
Just looked at Wembley
1st tier at Wembley is also 15° :D

So we just need exits inside the first tier.

EDIT:
Just looked at Wembley
1st tier at Wembley is also 15° :D

So we just need exits inside the first tier.

But I don't think Wembley's first tier has 60 rows :lol:

True :D
But its could be very easy to add new exits
So i would prefer a 74 row first tier (46 + 28) with 15°-20°, because capacity would be ~110k
BTW, the 2nd tier at the east stand has got max. 48 rows

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/3027588235_a899ca5eb4_b.jpg
bigger one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/okilic/3027588235/sizes/o/

Ataturk might suck because of the athletics track but the seats on the top tier can give a good view, can't they?
After building such a huge stadium that can host CL Final, WC Final, Olympic Games and you say it sucks doesn't it hurt when you pay the taxes? :D

The view is quite good from the 3rd tier of the main stand
http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/41002/2000744068922438771_rs.jpg
http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/40365/2000775756231364477_rs.jpg


Stadium is too far away from the city (19km)
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/971/unbenanntof1.jpg


There is a huge North-South wind, but it looks like that the french architects do not noticed it. The N and S stand are the 1 tier stand.

Even in May its very cold because of the strong wind.



National Olympic Comitee gets some % of the weekly lottery and it was built with this money.

Actually its a very cheap stadium. Just 135 mil USD.


All in all, its a satdium with many faults. Wrong location.
Ithas to be destroyed :D

The view is quite good from the 3rd tier of the main stand
http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/41002/2000744068922438771_rs.jpg
http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/40365/2000775756231364477_rs.jpg


Stadium is too far away from the city (19km)
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/971/unbenanntof1.jpg


There is a huge North-South wind, but it looks like that the french architects do not noticed it. The N and S stand are the 1 tier stand.

Even in May its very cold because of the strong wind.



National Olympic Comitee gets some % of the weekly lottery and it was built with this money.

Actually its a very cheap stadium. Just 135 mil USD.


All in all, its a satdium with many faults. Wrong location.
Ithas to be destroyed :D

1.Yes, the view is very good because you can see all the pitch without moving you're head.
2.Thats the problem, if a C.L. game is played at 21:45 it will end 2 hours later, if i live on the Asian side of the city i will probably come back home the next day in the afternoon if there's no transport
3.About May, i remember today that the players in the 2005 Final were wearing t-shirts under the jersey's and the wind was visible on them
4.135mil. USD? That's a shock, it really looks good for 135 mil. USD! Of course, i saw the photos from outside as it looks allready dirty as it's not painted and it's only 7 years old. If you can build a stadium like this with 135 mil. you can build a stadium as big as this one with not athletics field for 135 mil. i think some clubs from Romania will have to learn about it.
Of course it remains horrible to get there and there's nothing around, it's like a castle in the middle of the plain.

Actually it will get a metro connection next year
The area is nearly empty and quite boring.
There are project for new luxury houses but it will take some time.

Still the Istanbulians do not like it.

Well, metro connection should do it, if it will work at late hours for the people to get home since i guess in Turkey after big wins they don't go to bars to celebrate till morning. ( Just making a guess, i don't think they serve alcohol to much :D )
In Bucharest at least Dinamo and National Stadiums are served by some extra metro line's if a game is played late, but Dinamo is in a center area while Lia is not quite on the edge of the city.

After big wins the people are everywhere till the next morning :D

Metro line will have a capacity of 70,000 / hour

Still, its too far away and people do not like the stadium.

Yes, i know they like to create chaos in the city, same thing here in Bucharest at the end of every championship in front of my apartment it's they're meeting place. National Team wins like with Croatia also.
If i will come to Istanbul and i want to visit the stadiums ( also maybe the new Galatasaray ) is there anything to see at Ataturk? Usually these national team stadiums like Olimpico in Rome were always close face to the club stadiums.

Only at games of Istanbul Büyüksehir Belediye SK (Istanbul municipality SC) the stadium is open.
Very cheap tickets (i think free) and attendance is about 10 (small teams) to 15,000-25,000 (big anatolian teams.Many supporters in Istanbul) to max 40,000-60,000 (vs the big clubs)

New GS satdium will be opened in around 12 months.

http://partmule.com/blog16/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/chinese-olympic-stadium.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/images/2006/06/china-stadium-vagina.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3699/stad55sk8.jpg

olimpiyat stadi icin benim onerim, su an olan catinin sokulup yerine yukardaki gibi bir cati yapilmasi. Boylecehemstadin goruntusu daha estetik olur, hem de kuzey ve guneyden esen ruzgar kesilmis olur.

translate it please....

Please in English.
He suggest that they should put this roof

How is linked to centum by pubblic transport? It seem to be quite far from centrum.

I'd like to understand how many possibilities Turkey has to host Euro 2016 or 2020!

It will get an metro connection
I think it will opened this year
http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/tr/images/metro1.jpg

Rest is just roads/avenues/highways
http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/tr/images/kroki.jpg


But i do not think that we will use it.
Its more realist to expand the GS or FB stadium

^^ I remember a fantastic CL final in that stadium Milan vs Liverpool. Milan was winning 3-0 and then lost the final :lol:

(I am a fan of the other team of Milan, Inter) :)

Actually it hosted some curios finals :)
AC Milan 3:3 Liverpool FC - Championsleague Final 2005

Just some weeks before it hosted the turkish Cup Final
Galatasaray SK 5:1 Fenerbahçe SK :D

But its a very bad stadium with many problems.

Oh you are a fan of Galatasaray :). Me too. I have a t-shirt yellow and red (obviously) with the sign of Hakan Sukur, a friend of my father when played in Inter F.C.

Which type of problem? I bet the distance from the field. Is this the reason?

Actually there is a huge north-south wind.
And those stands have got just 1 tier.
Its a big white elephant. Useless stadium.
The big threee has got there wn stadiums and the new ones will be bigger.

Champions League Final 2005

http://www.itusozluk.com/img.php/afb540e107ee517f8ec26c4df44c54be25048/atat%FCrk+olimpiyat+stad%FD

According to TFF capacity is 76,092.
So 75,486 is the UEFA capacity.

http://www.tff.org/Default.aspx?pageID=394&stadID=110

From 2002 to 2005 the Ataturk Stadium had a capacity of 80,000. In 2005, the stadium was reduced to a 75000 capacity by removing the seats from where it was not possible to see the entire pitch. Where were those removed seats, anyway?

Asked the same question to the off. page

"Everywhere!" was the answers.

IMO thy just do not sell those seats.

As you maybe know Turkey is bidding to host the EURO 2016.

According to the TFF they plan to use this stadium for the final.

BUT, they plan to expand the stadium and make it full covered.

How is the stadium going to be full covered? The west side has 3 tiers, the east has 2 tiers, and the north and south ends have one tier. I like the roof the way it is now, it would be an impossible job to cover the entire seating bowl.

As far as i understand something like this
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4285/zwischenablage01lz.jpg

going to be the ugliest stadium ever... :cheers:

Why not dig out the athletics track and make it a proper football venue? ;-)

cap. would be ~ 100,000-110,000

But for what? Just for EURO 2016/2020 and Olyimpics 20xy?

Why not dig out the athletics track and make it a proper football venue? ;-)

No way in hell we are doing that. Istanbul has too many fotball-specific stadiums already. Asides, it's an "Olympic" Stadium, and it is supposed to have that track. If the track is removed, this could harm a future Olympic bud for Istanbul and could make us waste money on white elephant.

And one other question: Is the stadium even designed to support any expansion?

cap. would be ~ 100,000-110,000

But for what? Just for EURO 2016/2020 and Olyimpics 20xy?

Maybe so but it would set a new record for attendance in a Euro Championship :cheers: :D

going to be the ugliest stadium ever... :cheers:

correction : it already IS the ugliest stadium ever !

No way in hell we are doing that. Istanbul has too many fotball-specific stadiums already. Asides, it's an "Olympic" Stadium, and it is supposed to have that track. If the track is removed, this could harm a future Olympic bud for Istanbul and could make us waste money on white elephant.

And one other question: Is the stadium even designed to support any expansion?

Actually you could use the Wembely platform system.
YOu just have to install platform over the new 1st tier :)


IMO 2nd tier at the ends is possible

^^No, I like the field the way it is now. There is not going to be a new 1st tier, the stadium may end up with 4 tiers and it WILL be a bigger white elephant is it is made into a football specific stadium, Istanbul has far too many of those already. A 2nd tier at the ends is the only thing we're doing to expand this stadium and we are NOT doing anything else.

Why did this discussion resumed again? Is Turkey's bid strong enough?

Amazing stadium

Why did this discussion resumed again? Is Turkey's bid strong enough?

probably...

:nuts:

^^No, I like the field the way it is now. There is not going to be a new 1st tier, the stadium may end up with 4 tiers and it WILL be a bigger white elephant is it is made into a football specific stadium, Istanbul has far too many of those already. A 2nd tier at the ends is the only thing we're doing to expand this stadium and we are NOT doing anything else.

But you don't lose the track.
But you are right in terms og white elephant.
Actually because of the huge wind problems they have to built a 2nd tier at the ends.

According to TFF capacity will rise to 81,000
Just 5,000 extra seast?

I hope 81k will be the net capacity. So normal capacity would be 85-86k

^^ of course net capacity

so the normal capacity would be 85-86k :)

probably... sercan, Fenerbahçe president made me angry with his stupid and jelous comments about not using Saraçoğlu for EURO. This is a giant stadium and will get upgraded. Also Galatasaray's will ne the newest and more modern. Of course it is impossible to use Saraçoğlu for Euro...

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6154/omergestatikoolimpikois.jpg

Actually it would be better if they demolish the east stand and make it like the main west stand
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5302/unbenanntky.jpg

Damn this stadium is uglier than flavor flav

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6154/omergestatikoolimpikois.jpg

Actually it would be better if they demolish the east stand and make it like the main west stand
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5302/unbenanntky.jpg

The huge distance of the stands from the pitch, as depicted in each and every photo I've ever seen, seems to be most uncomfortable in this venue.
Has anyone considered to turn it into a multifunctional stadium by lowering the field & adding retractable stands-a la Stade de France?
If expansion is something desirable, for any particular reason, why not expand it "inwards"?

Damn this stadium is uglier than flavor flav

but it will change...

The huge distance of the stands from the pitch, as depicted in each and every photo I've ever seen, seems to be most uncomfortable in this venue.
Has anyone considered to turn it into a multifunctional stadium by lowering the field & adding retractable stands-a la Stade de France?
If expansion is something desirable, for any particular reason, why not expand it "inwards"?

I tried it. Cap. would rise to 105,000-110,000. But actually it would cost a lot and nobody needs such a big stadium.
The clubs have their own stadiums and the national teams will play in different cities / stadiums.

Why it seems I am the only one that likes it? Just put wind shields, it's fine
btw are there access corridors/rooms inside the roof?

EDIT reminds me of Japanese stadiums :D

^^ yes, it looks like WC 2002 stadiums, but it looks ugly because of the huge size difference between main stand and the back stands. In Japan, proportion is smaller....

But If Turkey gets Euro 2016, I am very hopeful for the future of this stadium. It will have a new shape like Athens Olymoic stadium had for Olympics 2004.

Why it seems I am the only one that likes it? Just put wind shields, it's fine
btw are there access corridors/rooms inside the roof?

EDIT reminds me of Japanese stadiums :D

:)
http://www.jaillet-rouby.fr/references/istanbul/gkgal4.htm

lol that's awesome! Surely not seen anywhere else!

My suggestion for the roof of the Olympic stadium:
http://www.geekologie.com/images/2006/06/china-stadium-vagina.jpg

effect of the wind through the new roof will be cut.
and become a better view of the stadium.

Note: I did not know English and I did tranlate google for the article. I'm sorry if I have errors

that it a bid for the beijing olympic stadium contest not your idea

Olympic Park (2008 bid)
http://i50.tinypic.com/2zgi7m9.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/1zmzh9z.jpg

that it a bid for the beijing olympic stadium contest not your idea

not my idea.
a roof can be done just like I said.

U2 360 concert plan!!1
http://www.u2010tickets.com/data/uploads/events/Ataturk%20Olympic%20Stadium%2C%20Istanbul%20U2.jpg

you like U2, eh?

Olympic Park (2008 bid)
http://i50.tinypic.com/2zgi7m9.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/1zmzh9z.jpg

Is there a list of venues and sports for a future Istanbul bid e.g.

Athletics: Ataturk Stadium
etc.etc

Because of we did not bid for the 2016 games, we do not have an official list.


2008 bid list - IMO the new possible venue

athletics: Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi (85,000+) - same

Archery: Venue at Olympic park (5,000) - same

Badminton: Bagcilar Badminton Hall (5,000) - same

Baseball: Venue at Olympic park (10,000 and 15,000) - same

Basketball: Sinan Erdem Dome (22,500) - Maybe new Arena (18,000+?)

Boxing: Exhibition Center Hall 3 (10,000) - same

Canoe/Kayak: Rowing and Canoeing center at laek Kücükcekmece (7,500) - same

Equestrian: Klassis Equestrian Club (30,000 and 50,000) - same

Fencing: Exhibition Center Hall 3 (5,000) - same

Gymnastics: Exhibition Center Hall 5 (18,000) - same

Hokey: Venue at Olympic Park (5,000 and 15,000) - same

Judo: Exhibition Center Hall 4 (12,000) - same

Swimming: Olympic Natatorium (15,000) - same or Sinan Erdem Dome (17,000)

Tabletennis: Exhibition Center Hall 2 (5,000) - same

Taekwondo: Exhibition Center Hall 2 (5,000) - same

Tennis: Venue at Olympic Park (200-15,000) - same or Tekstilkent Tennis complex

Volleyball: Abdi Ipekci Arena (10,550) and Kazliçesme (15,000) - same and FB Arena

Weightlifting: Mydonose Showland (5,000) - Burhan Felek Arena (7,000)

Wrestlingpdf: Exhibition Center Hall 4 (12,000) - same

^^Great, now the Istanbul Olympic venue plan is all jumbled up now. I'm still against the suggestion that the Sinan Erdem Dome be converted into aquatics centre. An indoor arena can't host aquatics, basketball, and gymnastics at the same time.

Therefore it should be converted into aquatics centre and the Basketball woudl be played in a new Arena (18,000+)

BTW
Football:
ISTANBUL - Inönü (35,000) -- same (maybe new one 40k+)
IZMIR - Atatürk (52,000) -- ISTANBUL - Sükrü Saracoglu (53,000)
BURSA - Atatürk (18,000) -- ISTANBUL - TTA (52,000)
KOCAELI - Ismet Pasa (15,000) -- Maybe Bursa (35,000-40,000)

No, we're still not doing that though. And we're getting off topic with out Olympic venue plan discussion.

lol why :)
nobody in Istanbul needs a 17k sports hall.
istanbul needs a 16,000+ arena with suites, lounges and stands whicha re close to the court.

The project for the EURO 2016

-cap. for EURO will be 81,000
-Normal capacity wil be 90,000+

-Pitch will be lowered 2,15m

-West stand will get 12 new suites
-East stand will get 32 new suites
-TOTAL no. of suites will be 80

-Will host the matched of the antional team, cup final and TFF Süper Kupa

http://i48.tinypic.com/55h10i.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2w32td3.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2coscat.jpg

^^Roof is to overexaggerated to become reality. I thought we was shooting for this design;

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4285/zwischenablage01lz.jpg

i thought the same
they made the more expensive one

-/-

it loosd like stade de france now ... :banana:

look at the huge gap between stands and roof
http://i48.tinypic.com/55h10i.jpg

"www.sercan.de: look at the huge gap between stands and roof"

but sercan, this is good, because:
1. the behind the goal stands COULD be high enough to stop the cold wind, which is disturbing the spectators/game
2. theres also a "high" glass front behing the stands.
3. theres enough space/gap for the pitch to breath and growth!
4. using translucent materials for the roof is good for growth, too...
as we both stadium-freaks know, (my teams) fenerbahces stadium has a horrible pitch, like a couple of new roofed stadiums.

YAAAY :banana: i hope this gonne be built this way :D
and the other euro-project lokk great, too...

No way in hell we are doing that. Istanbul has too many fotball-specific stadiums already. Asides, it's an "Olympic" Stadium, and it is supposed to have that track. If the track is removed, this could harm a future Olympic bud for Istanbul and could make us waste money on white elephant.

And one other question: Is the stadium even designed to support any expansion?

;-)

Honestly, this dug-out looks very half-hearted; I mean, if the track is being removed, why not make it a pure football venue?

track is not removed
Its like in japan
just green carpet etc

sercan the roof is not problem for me. It loosk aesthetic. This projects save the life of this stadium

how?
no club
national team will play here infront of 20,000-90,000? :D

he Atatürk Olympic Stadium is the largest stadium in Turkey. Opened in 1995, this UEFA Elite stadium was host to the memorable 2005 UEFA Champions League Final between Liverpool FC and AC Milan.

In order to increase the net capacity to above 60,000 and meet other requirements Turkey will undertake major reconstruction of this stadium.

Increasing the stadium capacity will enable over 90,000 spectators to enjoy the opening game, the final and six other matches of the UEFA EURO 2016 in what will be the world’s largest stadium with every seat under cover.

To increase the net and gross capacity to 81,000 and 90,000 respectively, the pitch will be lowered by 2.15 metres.

In order to provide better convenience for the VIP guests and the media, all existing hospitality areas at levels 3 and 4 will be extended.

Furthermore, 12 new boxes will be added to the west stand and 32 to the east stand to add to the current number of 36 skyboxes, this will provide a total of 80 skyboxes after the construction.

The renovated Atatürk Olympic Stadium will be the temple of Turkish National Football and host all major international matches of the Turkish National Team, as well as other major national matches hosted by the TFF such as the Turkey Cup Final and the Super Cup Final.
http://www.euro2016adayiturkiye.com/index.php?mid=120

^^They made an error here: Ataturk Olympic Stadium was built in 2002, not 1995.

Anyway, the pitch can be lowered by 2 metres (track cannot be removed, though, Green carpet can still be added to the venue), skyboxes can be added, but the roof on the east stand needs to be extended, not the west stand, it will ruin the (future) look of the stadium. Also, is it possible to add a moat to the stadium?

I hope they go ahead with this refurb project regardless of the Euro2016 outcome, this will be good for the future of turkish football. I reckon it will become more popular in the future with better transport links and general development of the surrounding area.

how it will look from above
http://i46.tinypic.com/2uq21jq.jpg

It will be beautiful... :cry:

It will be beautiful... :cry:

yeeeessssssss

I don't agree with you. The new roof does not match well with either of the existing roofs. All I wanted were new skyboxes, a lowering of the field by six feet, and new seating in both the goal areas, but the arcitect had to go and overdo it. The original architect must have designed the higher roof so that it cannot be expanded.

true
the crescent roof is just a part of the new roof. Distinction is gone and thats bad, becasue the roof was the symbol of the stadium

Overdone new roof needs to be scrapped.

Net cap: 81,106
Gross cap: 90,115

This stadium is really good for an SOG. As i see on Google Maps there's a lot of free space around the stadium, and it looks like the stadium is close to Ataturk airport- the plot seem perfect for Olympic park. Can someone tell me what are the plans of Istanbul for the 2020 OG bid: vanues, infrastructure etc.

..

Cause its an Olympic stadium.
So the lower rows will stay empty like at Roma Olimpico ( net 60.216, gros 66.968 )

http://www.turkcebilgi.com/uploads/media/resim/istanbul_ataturk_olympic_stadium.jpg

http://www.turkcebilgi.com/uploads/media/resim/istanbul_ataturk_olympic_stadium.jpg

After I review this Olympic Stadium, I think Istanbul bid for 2020 Summer Olympics become the white elephant unless they surely planned to demolish entire 2nd tier in east stand & partially North-South stand, then rebuilt it to match 2nd tier at the grandstand then lower the pitch without harming existing Track-and-Field arena at that stadium. 90,000 seats stadium will enough for the Olympic Games plus Proposed New Roof & Facade @ narrowly failed Euro 2016 Bid. The new roof for me is already outstanding enough.

...and of course present is ugly, but the future it will look like the white swan. :banana:

...aaahhh... I almost forget. add 3rd tier at east tier.

The new roof of the Ataturk Olympic Stadium, which was planned for when Turkey won the hosting rights to the Euro 2016 tournament, is being revisited for Istanbul's 2020 Summer Olympics bid. How will the new roof be constructed? The existing roof atop the west stand is supported by two pylons. In the expansion of the west stand's roof throughout the perimeter of the stadium, the east stand's roof needs to be removed. Sorry for disliking the expanded roof at first because of the need to preserve the east stand roof. A possible option is dismantling the 2nd tier of the east stand to make room for a stand matching the west stand. I don't know if anything in the Ataturk Stadium is supposed to be removed, it's probably no. Should the east stand remain as two tiers or be extended to three, especially for the Olympics?

Needs more helicopter pads around the stadium. ;) The car park reminds me of an American stadium, in that it's freakin' huge. Wish there was more colour, 'cause the mass of grey makes it look 'oh so bland'. Maybe a renovation could incorporate the colours of the Turkish flag, you know, kinda like Poland has done with the facade of their national stadium.

:cheers:

Actually at the EURO 2016 project th east stands stays the same. They've just added a 2nd tier at the goal stands and lowered the pitch.
http://i48.tinypic.com/55h10i.jpg

The west roof stays. New roof is like the west, just transparent
http://i50.tinypic.com/2w32td3.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2coscat.jpg

Capacity of the car parking area is 18.900
http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/tr/otopark.asp

Is there any plans to connect the stadium with a new metro line?

Actually its already connected

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4830/u2liveinistanbulverklei.jpg

http://www.tradeu2online.de/verkleinertPano1.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5851/panoramaist.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7210/015b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2096/5805348354_48e6492daa_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/emir13/5805348354/)
Olimpico (http://www.flickr.com/photos/emir13/5805348354/) von emir başkan (http://www.flickr.com/people/emir13/) auf Flickr

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4100/4970015275_0614166029_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/u2005/4970015275/)
U2 Istanbul 2010-09-06 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/u2005/4970015275/) von U2005.com (http://www.flickr.com/people/u2005/) auf Flickr

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4074/4875029843_3eeab58d2c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/selimag2/4875029843/)
IMG_6206 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/selimag2/4875029843/) von agrali miles II (http://www.flickr.com/people/selimag2/) auf Flickr

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Olimpiyat Stadı (http://www.flickr.com/photos/selimag2/4875038237/) von agrali miles II (http://www.flickr.com/people/selimag2/) auf Flickr


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IMG_6188 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/selimag2/4875024125/) von agrali miles II (http://www.flickr.com/people/selimag2/) auf Flickr


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Treeeesss :D

They will be halfway grown by 2020 for the possible Olympics, it will look good :D

Thanks for the photos Sercan, one is from a Trabzonspor match, but which concert is the other from?

And is the metro line working full-time now?

Last year U2 concert

o yes of course, I forgot all about that.

Anyway good to see some trees :D

What is the exact capacity,gross?i read as much as 83k.Why only 76k now?This happened to Luzhniki also.And they didnt remove any seating.Personally i think it looks like a 80k stadium,and Luzhnicki no matter anyone says has 85k seats.If they dont sell all of them its their problem but these stadiums are bigger than they say.
Will it try to host another champions league final?i'd love and attend :)

Capacity was 80,597 when it was opened.
West / main stand: 27,763
East stand: 26,164
North stand: 13.335
South stand: 13.335



Later they removed some seats with a bad view and added a 2nd media box

Before:
Just 1 media box between the 2nd and 3rd tier of the main stand
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/TUR/Ataturk_A3.jpg

After:
2 media boxes
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/TUR/Ataturk6.jpeg

And the capacity sink to 76,092.

As far as i know there aren't any plans to host a CL final again.
Last one was just 8 years ago.

ok.I saw up to 83k on wikipedia.
81,283 on dutch ,swedish
75,145 on italian,spanish
78,265 on french
80,597 on turkish ,all these right now :nuts:
So if the cap is 76k the attendace at 05 CL final what was?ive seen 60,65 and 70k .
I heard about empty seats in milan side,and the first 7-10 rows were blocked.
Would u not want another final like the one in 05? :cheers:,i hope they award istanbul another final by 2020-2025 max.

From Istanbul 2020

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6943/olympiccitycluster1.jpg

ok.I saw up to 83k on wikipedia.
81,283 on dutch ,swedish
75,145 on italian,spanish
78,265 on french
80,597 on turkish ,all these right now :nuts:
So if the cap is 76k the attendace at 05 CL final what was?ive seen 60,65 and 70k .
I heard about empty seats in milan side,and the first 7-10 rows were blocked.
Would u not want another final like the one in 05? :cheers:,i hope they award istanbul another final by 2020-2025 max.
Attendance of the CL final was 72,059.
Yes, the first rows weren't sold.

Hosting the CL final is always good, but i would prefer an enlarged TTA or Fener stadium in 2025

Capacity was 80,597 when it was opened.
West / main stand: 27,763
East stand: 26,164
North stand: 13.335
South stand: 13.335



Later they removed some seats with a bad view and added a 2nd media box

Before:
Just 1 media box between the 2nd and 3rd tier of the main stand
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/TUR/Ataturk_A3.jpg

After:
2 media boxes
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/TUR/Ataturk6.jpeg

And the capacity sink to 76,092.

As far as i know there aren't any plans to host a CL final again.
Last one was just 8 years ago.Attendance of the CL final was 72,059.
Yes, the first rows weren't sold.

Hosting the CL final is always good, but i would prefer an enlarged TTA or Fener stadium in 2025



I hope they never host CL or any other final in that stadium again, or at least not before you get Olympic Games and be forced to do something to transport people there. To build such a huge stadium in the middle of nowhere with zero transportation was a great idea from some smart head! And those idiots in UEFA .... :ohno:

Actually it has got a metro connection now
http://www.emlakkulisi.com/resim/tamboyut/MTA2NDU4OT-basaksehir-metrosu-konut-yatirimcisinin-yuzunu-gulduruyor.jpg