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Mantas January 26th, 2005, 11:25 PM So the Projects in Vilnius thread is close, thus we need a new one. Here I'll post more interesting projects that are undergoing in Vilnius :)
First of all, highrise projects.
U/C
1. 28 fl Registers' center
2. 26 fl Helios Tower
3. 24 fl Vyrokas apartments
4. 2x23 fl Kausta residentials near Western Center (W)
5. 20 fl in Vilnius Gate tower
6. 16 fl Business center in Zirmunu/Kareiviu (NEast) streets
7. 15 fl in Vilnius Gate project
8. 2x16 fl residentials in Zvalgu street (N)
9. 16 fl residential in Zirmunu street (NE)
10. 16 fl residential in Minties street (E)
11. 2x16 fl residentials in Ukmerges street (NW)
12. 16 fl residential in Didlaukio street (N)
13. 12 fl Nida apartments near NCC
14. 16 fl residential in Fabijoniskes (NW)
On hold
1. 15 fl Akropolis Office
2. 12 fl SBA tower
Approved
1. 2x16 & 12fl in Seskine business city (construction will start in 2005 05)
2. 2x15 fl residentials in Narbuto street (W) (demolishion of old buildings is undergoing)
3. 12 fl near 16floorers in Seskine
Proposed
1. Hansabank 20,000 m2 building near Lietuva Hotel (New City Center, will be clear in 2005 03)
2. up to 50 fl building near Vyrokas apartments (will be clear in 2006)
3. 3 highrises in Konstitucijos av. (should be clear soon)
4. 8,000 m2 building in Gelezinio Vilko/Ukmerges street
5. Extension of 5 fl building to 12 fl (Business Triangle)
6. 2 >20 fl in Western Center
Smaller projects
1. Reconstruction of Gediminas' avenue (2nd stage undergoing, 2 to go)
2. Reconstruction of old City Hall square (starts in May 2005)
3. Eika shopping Center in Gediminas avenue (status unknown)
4. "Panorama" shopping center (50,000 m2, demolition of old buildings is undergoing)
5. Vilnius amusement park (arena, shopping center, waterpark and themepark), undergoing
Overall map
http://img.miestai.net/center.jpg
Now some renderings
U/C group
Registres' center
http://img.miestai.net/registru.jpg
Helios Tower
http://img93.exs.cx/img93/3727/Image47.jpg
Vilnius Gate
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/gates.gif
Vyrokas apartments
http://img.miestai.net/vyrokas.jpg
BCC2
http://img127.exs.cx/img127/6141/q0rgetphp2.jpg
Seskine 16floorers
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/seskine.jpg
Didlaukio 16floorers
http://www.alsva.lt/uploads/pic/alsva_pradinis.gif
Akropolis Office
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/v4idas/Scan/akropolis.jpg
SBA tower (On hold)
http://system.pii.lt/db_index/index_lt.jpg
Approved group
http://www.realtus.lt/admin/image.php?id=388
Proposed group
5fl extension
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Edd_host/hanner.jpg
Geex January 26th, 2005, 11:35 PM Nice tread. We will have a lot of work while adding all projects and U/C in Vilnius ;)
John January 26th, 2005, 11:53 PM Well done, Mantai :okay:
Is it just me or another boom of new constructions in Vilnius seems to be starting atm? :)
Mantas January 27th, 2005, 12:01 AM Perhaps it's already happening :yes:
BoyXm January 27th, 2005, 09:51 AM Thanks Mantaz :okay: Yes, it seems that we are booming again :okay: :dance2: : :cheers:
Gatis January 27th, 2005, 11:09 AM Ohohooo.... 6 20+ floors buildings u/c, 17 12+ fl buildings u/c. Riga is lagging behind (respectively - 3 and 9). I like that Registru Centras building is shiny. My favourites so far: 1) SBA tower, 2) Helios tower. Somehow I like Didlaukio towers as well.
ch1le January 27th, 2005, 11:30 AM :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
:eek2:
thats ALOT of highrises, a bit sad though that they are so separated, atm only the projects in NCC seem to tickle me a bit...
Geex January 27th, 2005, 11:31 AM @Mantaz:
Šiuo metu dešinėje mikrorajono pusėje yra Šeškinės poliklinika, restoranas su baru, "Norfos" maisto prekybinis centras, "Šilėjos" pastatas, LNK televizijos studija. Šalia LNK pradėta dviejų daugiaaukščių gyvenamųjų namų statyba.
Dešinėje Ukmergės g. pusėje esančius prekybinius pastatus taip pat siūloma sujungti į vieną komercinį pastatą su pėsčiųjų pasažu lygiagrečiai Ukmergės gatvei. Virš 2-3 aukštų pastato-platformos, kurioje įrengiamos komercinės patalpos, suprojektuoti trys 12-16 aukštų pastatai. Šių pastatų funkcija - administracinė arba gyvenamoji
Those three 12-16 office highrises will be near two 16 U/C highrises, your old map was good. ;)
Geex January 27th, 2005, 11:38 AM + Vilnius airport new terminal construction and reconstruction of old one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/geex2/IMG_6939.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/geex2/IMG_6940.jpg
And "Vilniaus pietinis greitkelis" (Vilnius south highway) project is now started too, municipality started negatiations with land owners and construcion will begin this season. This year over 71 mln LTL will be invested into this project, next year 110 mln LTL.
Artis January 27th, 2005, 01:06 PM good start, Mantaz
but i agree with ch1le - sad that all those buildings are scattered araund all Vilnius. Thats because i like idea of NCC.
I like Didlaukio apartment towers at the best. And also that last - prposed round building is intresting.
John January 27th, 2005, 01:14 PM I don't think it's a bad idea that buildings are scattered. E.g. the new office building (13-14 fl.) in Seskine will be only about 4000 m^2 so they could easily build a simple 3-4 storey lowrise box but they instead build a slim 14 storey high-rise.
And the development of suburbs is necessary as much as the development of the central part. I don't see a reason to worry about NCC because there is a detailed plan and sooner or later it will be built-up like it's shown in the plan.
Mantas January 27th, 2005, 09:17 PM Ohohooo.... 6 20+ floors buildings u/c, 17 12+ fl buildings u/c. Riga is lagging behind (respectively - 3 and 9). I like that Registru Centras building is shiny. My favourites so far: 1) SBA tower, 2) Helios tower. Somehow I like Didlaukio towers as well.
It's just strange that there are way more U/C projects than proposed or approved. It could be the end of the boom, but it could be so that we don't know much about the other projects.
Anyway, the MIPIM exhibition is approaching and I believe we'll get some fresh info on this :yes:
@Geex Ok, I'll re-re-reupdate the map next time, when something new happens :yes:
@Artis Well, I doubt those semi-commie residentials would fit in NCC, so it's not that bad.
Edd January 27th, 2005, 10:10 PM It's just strange that there are way more U/C projects than proposed or approved.
We know about 7 proposed buildings only for NCC is that not enough? And don't forget that we often learn about projects only when they are U/C or are going to be U/C soon. ;)
Edit: Btw we never knew so many proposed buildings as we know now.
John January 27th, 2005, 10:23 PM That's true what Edd said. Most of us here are not anyhow related to architectural or construction companies so we can't really learn what projects are actually proposed or being prepared and such information is not published in newspapers or magazines. In most cases we find info only as the construction starts or shortly before that.
Geex January 27th, 2005, 10:31 PM ^^ And because our construction companies are too lazy to put info about new projects into web. Even if building is U/C you sometimes cant find any info in web sites.. :(
pablonis January 28th, 2005, 03:13 AM well if some of you are interested here's a map of old soviet highrises in vilnius(12+ floors, also including newly built ones), just click on the map shown there, there's quite a lot of them:
http://www.vilnius.lt/new/vadovybe.php?open=594&id=2
zippo21 January 28th, 2005, 03:47 AM up to 50 fl building near Vyrokas apartments ?!!! wow I can't believe it could be ever build....
Dr.Jackal January 28th, 2005, 08:08 AM This is not clear yet. Owner of this plot is Vyrokas company,and,surely,no construction will begun untill the Vyrokas Apartaments will be finished (2006).
But by info of some people,related to Vyrokas,some spaces of this proposed building was already ordered last summer. By this sources,the building should be about 46-52 storeys. But this is just rumours,I can't confirm this information.
Mantas January 29th, 2005, 01:11 AM Some fresh news.
The 14fl Akropolis office building which is now on hold because of law violations has been approved, but will be slimmer than the original version. The construction will be resumed this spring.
Note that there were proposals for building a 24fl or 27 fl. A rendering below is probably one of proposals :D :lol: ;)
http://img163.exs.cx/img163/8974/akropolis222tl.jpg
Gatis January 29th, 2005, 11:04 AM Would you like it? Greeks might rise even bigger scandal than with Macedonia now... :)
Mantas January 29th, 2005, 11:08 AM Hehe, I doubt it would be a good idea :D
Edd January 29th, 2005, 07:26 PM The building which won the competition and is going to be built:
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/9800/akropolis2ge.jpg
pablonis January 29th, 2005, 07:57 PM :hahaha: what a f*** is that, looks like a huge shoe, its so damm ugly :puke: :banned:
LatvianGG January 29th, 2005, 07:59 PM I hope they wouldn't build anything this kind in Riga's Akropolis :ohno:
John January 29th, 2005, 08:02 PM I find it nice :)
Still VP Market could make a better solution and build their HQ somewhere in NCC.
Gatis January 29th, 2005, 08:53 PM Exactly, @John. Such a big and successful company simply HAD to make a landmark building for Vilnius. Can not imagine, what happened during design tender if such project won. But... two days ago one of developers in Riga complained about the lack of good design proposals for his tender. Reason - best local architects are overloaded with work and do not have time to take new quality works. I suppose that it is the same in Vilnius...
Edd January 29th, 2005, 09:44 PM Exactly, @John. Such a big and successful company simply HAD to make a landmark building for Vilnius. Can not imagine, what happened during design tender if such project won. But... two days ago one of developers in Riga complained about the lack of good design proposals for his tender. Reason - best local architects are overloaded with work and do not have time to take new quality works. I suppose that it is the same in Vilnius...
No, not the same. That long 6 floor part is already built and they wanted to build it taller. They started to built everything without any permissions. Most of architects of Vilnius and Lithuania are quite mad on "VP market" and there was a war between them - don't think that details would be interesting for you. Many architects refused to participate in that competition because they said that taller building than it is built now can not be built there. City mayor was in favour of the side with big money. ;) So we have this project in the end. Actually it's better than the building which they wanted to build earlier but it's still not suitable for that place.
Gatis January 29th, 2005, 10:08 PM Ehhh... life is life. You can not have only good things happening.
zippo21 January 30th, 2005, 05:55 AM Money roolez...that's all I wanted to say ;)
Edd February 4th, 2005, 11:45 PM A short video of a southern bypass which will start to be built this year (less than 1MB):
http://s3.youshareit.com/download.php?818c138f7b0fa9ad801e2a53afa7b45f
chukchi February 5th, 2005, 02:28 AM ^^it takes the ages to download it. I have no pasience today
zippo21 February 5th, 2005, 05:46 AM I saw this part of "Vilnius city vision 2020" just this cut is in english ;)
Mantas February 7th, 2005, 12:51 PM Here's a render of a proposal for a parliament hotel. The current state is unknown, but the MPs talk about moving from the old place to this one. Nice? :) (Btw, it's "Vilnius Gate" in the background)
http://img233.exs.cx/img233/1581/5copy1a4xe.jpg
http://img233.exs.cx/img233/4841/2kamera34yr.jpg
blimey February 7th, 2005, 02:03 PM Thats quite a sweet proposal, i must say.
NorthStar77 February 7th, 2005, 02:05 PM Nice! But what is a parliament hotel?
Gatis February 7th, 2005, 02:05 PM Good one. Really. Any more info?
Geex February 7th, 2005, 02:13 PM Nice! But what is a parliament hotel?
It's place where MP's live. When elected they can get place in Parliament hotel if they live in other cities of Lithuania (not Vilnius).
Mantas February 7th, 2005, 03:11 PM Well, there's another proposal for that place to build a cultural center, so I hope a war between the state parliament and municipality won't start on this issue :)
NorthStar77 February 7th, 2005, 03:19 PM It's place where MP's live. When elected they can get place in Parliament hotel if they live in other cities of Lithuania (not Vilnius).
Why not just give them a certain amount of money to let them rent an apartment? Imagine having to say hi to your colleagues everytimes you're out with the garbage or getting the mail :runaway:
Mantas February 7th, 2005, 03:29 PM Why not just give them a certain amount of money to let them rent an apartment? Imagine having to say hi to your colleagues everytimes you're out with the garbage or getting the mail :runaway:
I guess it's pretty much economical reasons. Flats are expensive and it'd be far to go to the parliament from various parts of the city. Now it's just across the street :D
Btw, it should be called parliament hostel or dormitory, since a hotel is a more commercial version, but nevertheless, they keep calling it a hotel ;)
Vaidas February 7th, 2005, 05:13 PM @ Mantaz: where did you get the info and renders for the parliament hotel? :?
I've never heard anything about it :|
Edd February 7th, 2005, 05:24 PM I don't know why Mantaz described that high-rise as a proposal. Actually there were only some talks about that parliament hotel (it should be used by guests and delegations from other countries too) - we don't know anything about it (so it can be lowrise/highrise/not built at all, etc. ;)). That high-rise building and rendering which was posted is just a work by one forumer at tinkle.miestai.net :)
Vaidas February 7th, 2005, 05:37 PM I don't know why Mantaz described that high-rise as a proposal. Actually there were only some talks about that parliament hotel (it should be used by guests and delegations from other countries too) - we don't know anything about it (so it can be lowrise/highrise/not built at all, etc. ;)). That high-rise building and rendering which was posted is just a work by one forumer at tinkle.miestai.net :)
I just found it :) The design ROCKS :eek:
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/2544/izometrik5qf.jpg
ex. SDmaster February 7th, 2005, 06:27 PM WOW, seems another great project is get ready to start in Vilnius, cool :)
Vaidas
The design ROCKS
agree :D
Oberleutnant February 7th, 2005, 06:33 PM ^
"That high-rise building and rendering which was posted is just a work by one forumer at tinkle.miestai.net"
:)
ch1le February 7th, 2005, 06:34 PM the building is way too wide imo :sleepy:
ex. SDmaster February 7th, 2005, 06:45 PM Oberleutnant
Aghhhh, stupid me... :crazy2:
Mantas February 7th, 2005, 07:16 PM I don't know why Mantaz described that high-rise as a proposal. Actually there were only some talks about that parliament hotel (it should be used by guests and delegations from other countries too) - we don't know anything about it (so it can be lowrise/highrise/not built at all, etc. ;)). That high-rise building and rendering which was posted is just a work by one forumer at tinkle.miestai.net :)
Edd, I'm not that watchful as you are. I read everything for the 5th time and have just now noticed one phrase which is "hidden" between two large pictures. At first I really thought it's a kind of proposal, but now it seems like not. Anyway, the talks about parliament hotel are going, so I have no doubt this or other project will get approved on this ;)
pablonis February 8th, 2005, 05:14 PM snipiskiu (NCC) are plan approved alrady by municipality:
http://www.vilnius.lt/I/naudojimas.gif
Geex February 8th, 2005, 05:30 PM snipiskiu (NCC) are plan approved alrady by municipality:
http://www.vilnius.lt/I/naudojimas.gif
Hmm, something interesting, next to EA can be build building with 31 floors and Vyrokas apartments will reach 29 floors (i thought 24-25?)
So we can expect about six new 20+ floors highrises in NCC. And five 10-20 floors buildings.
Edd February 10th, 2005, 10:34 PM Municipality of Vilnius is fighting with investors who according to officials of Vilnius want to build too tall buildings and too many of them. They want to invest more than 200 mio EUR to more than 15 000 places stadium with sliding roof and surrounding area. There are not official talks that they want to demolish old sport and concert hall too. Sport and concert hall, it has about 5000 places (photo by Mantaz):
http://img.miestai.net/IMGP0438.JPG
Investors want to build offices, hotels, conference hall, residentials, etc.
Rendering of part of the project (by some Swedish architects). As you can see stadium is surrounded by new buildings:
http://img178.exs.cx/img178/6685/zalgstad9sw.jpg
Actually I like it but maybe it's only part of project and other part is worse.
Most of city architects are "scared" that mentioned concert and sport hall will be demolished.
The end of all this "story" is not clear but municipality told that if the project will not be changed they will not allow to realise it.
John February 16th, 2005, 06:23 PM We finally know confirmed information about the number of floors of "Vilnius Gate" main tower, it's going to have 20 floors (thanks to Edd for digging the info) :)
visuals of the final project (original project undergone 9 or more corrections!)
http://img210.exs.cx/img210/2240/59oa4zz.jpg
http://img210.exs.cx/img210/9076/65do8lr.jpg
ch1le February 16th, 2005, 06:25 PM Dang! Thats great 20 is great :)
Edd February 16th, 2005, 06:32 PM That 20 floorer above the tunnel will be used for offices and residental (first 11 floors will be used for offices). The other high-rise will be used only for offices, it'll have 15 floors.
jimm February 19th, 2005, 08:06 PM That reconstruction of Zalgiris stadium would look great, i hope that something like this rendering will be approved.
ex. SDmaster February 22nd, 2005, 10:03 AM Vyrokas
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=39080428-CF1F-D571-A1AE66707C3AEF82
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=39090DD8-CF1F-D571-A1E39BD13F5D1859
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=3909E859-CF1F-D571-A79F271116B89AF0
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=390AB1A4-CF1F-D571-AC807CFB13EBF7B2
Vilniaus Vartai (Vilnius Gates)
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=390C1C50-CF1F-D571-AC4AC50AEB069856
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=390D022C-CF1F-D571-AD199EB6EC89632F
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=390DBC54-CF1F-D571-A417F882A166F0D4
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=390E9F90-CF1F-D571-AE82119BAF2AB8BA
BCC2
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=390FE399-CF1F-D571-AB36FB23B96C06A8
Acropolis Office building (construction works are frozen)
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=39114E26-CF1F-D571-A2EE69263427942C
Reconstruction of an old soviet office building
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=3913DE66-CF1F-D571-AE2A2A56A41C8704
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=39148A55-CF1F-D571-A0E45178F0560DBA
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=391531B1-CF1F-D571-AF786CDB644BFFA9
BoyXm February 22nd, 2005, 10:47 AM cool :cheers:
BoyXm February 22nd, 2005, 10:53 AM thanks ex. sdmaster for the really nice updeit :okay: it seems that vyrokas already have launched down their crane - so the second part of Vyrokas residential not far from the end. The higher part of Vilnius Gates project already growing up :cheers: but BCC2 construction seems a little bit slowdown :bash: And now i am looking for some serious works in In Real dominion :D It should begin soon ;)
Mantas February 22nd, 2005, 11:35 AM Really nice update. Thanks again :)
Ţróndeimr February 22nd, 2005, 12:06 PM "Vilnius Gate" posted by John looks great, but the Parlament Hotel (http://img111.exs.cx/img111/2544/izometrik5qf.jpg) planns looks even more interesting. If approved, when might they start construction of the tower?
Edd February 22nd, 2005, 12:06 PM Thanks for these nice updates ex. SDmaster, did you get a tripod? (that night photo with bcc2 is clean and sharp :))
Geex February 24th, 2005, 11:52 AM One more update ;)
Vilnius railway station and district reconstruction project
http://img214.exs.cx/img214/696/img80489dd.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
^ Railway station is under reconstruction ATM.
I have some hptos from railway station underground (reconstructed part), sorry for bad quality :)
http://img214.exs.cx/img214/5362/img79865pd.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img214.exs.cx/img214/866/img79874yy.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
As you can see some tunnels are still closed for reconstruction :)
On other side of railway station we have reconstruction works of old soviet times hotel, sorry i will try find renders later ;)
Total sum of this project: 1 380 000 000 Lt
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Šeškinės stadium, you saw this one before, but we allready thought it's dead project. Currently planing works underway. Total number of seats 30 000.
http://img206.exs.cx/img206/7572/img80440lo.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Total sum: 170 000 000 Lt.
jozikas February 24th, 2005, 12:28 PM Vilnius train station kick ass :D
blimey February 24th, 2005, 12:45 PM I wonder what that high-rise next to the station will be!
pablonis February 24th, 2005, 02:56 PM stadium is simply amazing :)
Mantas February 24th, 2005, 05:22 PM Wow :eek:
John February 24th, 2005, 05:25 PM Stadium looks incredible!
Edd February 24th, 2005, 05:28 PM About stadium - I think it's just for mipim'05 - not real project. It's bad that Geex did not give us some more information.
chukchi February 24th, 2005, 05:29 PM Oh, Finally my dreams are comming true! New Stadium :cucumber: :righton:
Edd February 24th, 2005, 05:32 PM ^^^ Zalgirio stadium is much more real - it has investors and real plans. ;)
chukchi February 24th, 2005, 05:35 PM Well, there were so many plans over the years. And we still don't have a stadium. I will not believe in any information from now on untill I see stadium being build with my own eyes >(
Geex February 24th, 2005, 05:41 PM About stadium - I think it's just for mipim'05 - not real project. It's bad that Geex did not give us some more information.
Actually yes render is prepared for MIPIM'05, but i find out that they are preparing detail plans and some sort of studies (dont know WHAT studies, but i think they are for investors) too. Anyway it's good things are moving.
So from this render you can't say how stadium will look, but still things are moving ;)
Edd February 24th, 2005, 06:51 PM @Geex: Yes, I knew about those studies. Because of 'illegal' VP market office building VP market had to pay 1 million LT for those studies. ;)
Geex February 24th, 2005, 06:55 PM @Geex: Yes, I knew about those studies. Because of 'illegal' VP market office building VP market had to pay 1 million LT for those studies. ;)
Hmm.. if VP will decide to build another illegal highrise, maybe they will force VPM to build stadium for us? :D
Gatis February 24th, 2005, 07:20 PM :) this is a bit funny around VP Market
Railway station plans look grand! There really is something like highrise planned!? Looks like some 15 floors
Geex February 24th, 2005, 07:29 PM :) this is a bit funny around VP Market
Railway station plans look grand! There really is something like highrise planned!? Looks like some 15 floors
Yes, but according to city plan max 10 floors allowed in that place ;)
sander February 24th, 2005, 09:34 PM Nice stuff! Parliament hotel and stadium looks great. And I must admit that Vilnius has a lot of high-rise projects... :eek2:
Mantas February 25th, 2005, 05:56 PM ^^^ The best thing that we still don't know about many projects. Same happened to ET and Helios when we got aware about them when the construction was already started. Hope that there still are many such "hidden" projects ;)
ch1le February 25th, 2005, 06:03 PM heh, 1 380 000 000 Lt for a railway station what serves nothing, Lithuanians are funny, why such an expensive station for trains that take you to Kaunas and Klaipeda.....
Edd February 25th, 2005, 06:08 PM ^^^ It's the main train station of Vilnius and it takes also to other places of Europe not only Kaunas and Klaipeda. ;)
Btw, I think that the investors who'll build commercial/residential buildings around will invest in that project too - they'll need parking places. :)
Mantas February 25th, 2005, 06:47 PM @ch1le There will be a modern connection to Kaunas soon and to RailBaltica as well. Moreover, trains are still popular in Lithuania ;)
Gatis February 26th, 2005, 01:05 AM Hope that there still are many such "hidden" projects
But... this is quite weird that in very centrum you allow to build something that large without loud public discussion before it.
Regarding railway station - 400 mio EUR looks like huge overkill - you can build metro line with this money, you can make 50 "Victoria" towers or row of 12 "Saules akmens" buildings... or some 8 km long highway tunnel under centrum of Vilnius etc etc. 40 mio would be very much already.
Mantas February 26th, 2005, 08:24 AM ^^^ I believe communities and people participating in them are informed and public discussions are usually held ;)
About the 400 mln € station project, yeah, it's quite a much :|
John February 26th, 2005, 04:53 PM I believe those "400 mio Euros" is not only about the station but perhaps in the whole area what includes reconstruction of the station and all other projects planned (or just potentially planned) in that area. E.g. according to the municipality the investments to New City Center should be 1 billion Eur in total what includes complete redevelopment of the entire district of the city (which was seen in the model of Snipiskes).
Gatis February 26th, 2005, 06:34 PM Aha, that makes sense. If they calculate development of whole district with all the street network, piping etc. - then it is not a problem to reach 400 mio costs.
Kommandant Mark February 26th, 2005, 07:56 PM Great railway station project! Hope Vilnius manages to pull this off, and not screw it up like Belgrade did:(
We spent some 700 millon euros on our new station, "Belgrade Railway Junction", commonly called Prokop(Big Dig), and its nowhere near finnished yet.
Edd March 10th, 2005, 04:48 PM Great news for NCC. Dutch company "Middle Europe Investment" will invest 150 mio EUR to complex of buildings which are planned by Lithuanian company "Vyrokas". The complex will be built in NCC, not far from so called "Vyrokas" residential. It'll contain offices, shopping and residential space. Floor space - 135 000 m^2. It'll be realised untill 2008 year.
Now lets hope that they'll build something nice. Btw "Vyrokas" and "Middle Europe Investment" made this arrangement at mipim'05 exhibition which has not ended yet. Lets hope for some more good news from there. :)
ch1le March 10th, 2005, 04:54 PM Whao... 150 mio euro? that is a shitload of damn money. any idea if it will be a highrise(s)
Edd March 10th, 2005, 05:00 PM Whao... 150 mio euro? that is a shitload of damn money. any idea if it will be a highrise(s)
We don't know anything yet - anyway taller buildings than ET are not allowed so we can't expect something very tall. But I hope that atleast some 25-30 floorer will be built.
Anyway even if these will be only low-rises this is good news for NCC. :)
ch1le March 10th, 2005, 05:03 PM oh hell yea! :) hope to see some renders SOON!!! :D
blimey March 10th, 2005, 05:24 PM Great news. I hope Vyrokas will not screw this one up like they did with that residential building.
John March 10th, 2005, 05:55 PM That's indeed a great news, especially since we're taliing about 2008 i.e. in more than just 2 years from now. :okay:
It seems that participation in MIPIM is really paying off :). Afaik Riga city decided not to participate there (?) and what about Tallinn?
ch1le March 10th, 2005, 05:58 PM im not sure John, im sure they will send something, but there hasnt been any information about it... if anything i think coastal area revitalization plan would be sent, because that should total hundreds of millions of euros...
Gatis March 10th, 2005, 08:05 PM Riga participates in MIPIM this year with 25 m2 stand, they issued a book and CD about developments in Riga. Hope - it will be OK this time.
The same Dutch company is planning also investments in Riga - expected investments over the next 3 - 4 years - at least 230 mio EUR. They have purchased the land already - but do not reveal - where. That's why I did not write anything about this in Riga City Development news yet - we know even less than Lithuanians...
Their homepage www.mei.nl does not say anything sensible either.
Mantas March 10th, 2005, 08:45 PM 230 mln? :eek: That's damn big money, I hope they build something spectacular there. Anyway, good news for both Vilnius and Riga :okay:
Edd March 12th, 2005, 08:49 PM Few projects for Sunrise Valley.
New administrative building for VGTU (VILNIUS GEDIMINAS TECHNICAL UNIVERSITY). We don't know much about it, the project model, originally posted by filthy in tinkle.miestai.net forum:
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/6364/kunce2co0my.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Project of new library for Vilnius university. Total area 16 000 m^2, investments ~25 mio EUR. It's planned that the begining of construction works will start this year. Photo of model taken from www.palekas.lt
http://img167.exs.cx/img167/3407/untitled37zz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
VU library in Saulėtekis Students town,2004
ARCHITECTS: R.Palekas
COMPETITIVE PROJECT. 1st place prize.
SITUATION : Saulėtekio Proveržio valley,site in natural environment near pedestrian path.
IDEA: stones in outskirts.
DECORATION: monogamous material.
BUILDING AREA: 16 000 sq.m
John March 13th, 2005, 05:18 PM NCC in 2006 (by Edd) as Vyrokas, Hansabank Central Office and Center of Registers will be built
http://img142.exs.cx/img142/3852/img51343ah.jpg
ch1le March 13th, 2005, 09:15 PM thatis Spectacular ;) But i dont like it that they are on 1 plane there, along the street, doesnt give alot of urbanity that way, still it creates one heck of a skyline! seems like in 2006 we will have quite a competition:) http://img22.exs.cx/img22/830/hmmmm1.jpg
edit: btw, Vyrokas is going to be 29 floors as Mantaz told me, so it will be taller then on the pic you gave John! :)
Edd March 13th, 2005, 10:02 PM It isn't 100% exact skyline. ;) The results of "Hansabankas" office competition will be known next week. There are 20+ projects who participate. Lowest of them is 7 floorer and the highest has about 28 floors. So lets wait, tommorow we'll get photos of all projects who participate in competition. Btw they are not on one line and the area isn't such unurban as some people often repeat here, when they have no arguments in favour of some other cities. ;) The other thing is what behind all this area - yes it is not urban but the area itself is urban.
John March 13th, 2005, 10:14 PM thatis Spectacular ;) But i dont like it that they are on 1 plane there, along the street, doesnt give alot of urbanity that way, still it creates one heck of a skyline! seems like in 2006 we will have quite a competition:) http://img22.exs.cx/img22/830/hmmmm1.jpg
edit: btw, Vyrokas is going to be 29 floors as Mantaz told me, so it will be taller then on the pic you gave John! :)
They are not in one line, that's for sure. Hansabank will be next to Reval Hotel Lietuva while the Center of registers will be behind the ET and Europa Square.
In this pic Hansabank is seen on the right in the foreground of Lietuva and Center of Registers is somewhere on the far left (sorry for quality, a screenshot from video file) ;)
http://img153.exs.cx/img153/4228/bscap0012bv.jpg
About Vyrokas there is no any certainty, originally it was supposed to have 23 or 24 floors but in the detailed plan of NCC prepared by the municipality it's shown as having 29 floors.
And tomorrow some interesting news should appear, we'll see all 20 contestants of the Hansabank Central Office architectural contest. According to those who saw the models the lowest proposal has 7 floors while the tallest one has got about 28. The same unofficial sources noted that the winning project most likely will have about 18 floors. We'll know alot more tomorrow, can't wait for the pictures! Winners should be announced next week (likely) :D
Edit: Edd posted his reply while I was preparing mine, no wonder why I hate him so much :D
Edd March 13th, 2005, 10:15 PM Btw, it seems that the times when NCC had many cranes are comming back (photo by John, 2003 March):
http://img26.exs.cx/img26/8473/2003kovas2fz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
One bad thing is that municipality has not approved Registru center yet and there were some bad public opinions expressed about the building - it was said that it'll be too tall. The works are stopped for now, lets hope that municipality will approve 28 floor tower and will not lower it.
John March 13th, 2005, 10:19 PM ^^^
I'm not sure if it wasn't approved, I think the detailed plan didn't cause any problems and it actually was approved. They still haven't got permission to start the construction works though.
Geex March 14th, 2005, 10:20 AM Here is some more news from NCC. We allready know that new commercial/residental area will be build near Vyrokas until 2008. Here is render which shows location of new skyscraper and other new buildings:
http://img226.exs.cx/img226/7653/img83120jl.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
So it seem's that few commies near Vyrokas (LG commie) will be demolished (or reconstructed).
Note that this render don't show how new highrise and other buildings will look, it only shows location ;)
vytauc March 14th, 2005, 10:41 AM The news are good, but I'm a bit concerned about the developer...
John March 14th, 2005, 11:50 AM Good news (although it's more like a good rendering because the "news" were already known ;)). Geex, could you scan the article which came with this rendering?
Edd March 14th, 2005, 12:13 PM I think this is just a rendering from mipim'05. I heard that Vyrokas does not even have all the land which he wants to build up. As for design - there will be competition announced after which the exact design/height will be known.
Geex March 14th, 2005, 12:35 PM ^^^ As far as i know Vyrokas allready have allmost all land, except i don't know about that old commie which is near LG commie ;)
Gatis March 14th, 2005, 01:25 PM I can give to Vyrokas a hint for 250 floor apartment building. ;) Look at this
http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Curvepics/Spiral/Spiral1.gif
Anyway - good news. Having Vyrokas built over 180 degrees might give to the building finished look.
Geex March 14th, 2005, 01:34 PM I can give to Vyrokas a hint for 250 floor apartment building. ;) Look at this
http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Curvepics/Spiral/Spiral1.gif
Anyway - good news. Having Vyrokas built over 180 degrees might give to the building finished look.
You better don't give them any hint like this, they could really build it :D
Edd March 17th, 2005, 07:31 PM After many protests "VP market" decided to leave their office building in its current position (6 floors) and they will not continue the construction of it (originally they wanted to build 15 floor building).
New 65 mio EUR multifunctional project in Uzupis, for more info read here: http://www.realtus.lt/en.php/title_page/our_offers/residential/unique_multi_functional_project_uzupio_vingis/information/1051
There is big posibility that 28 floor Registru center will not be built because of some protests, etc. But I can't say much now - lets wait when everything will be clear.
It seems that because of UNESCO (actually because of few people in Lithuania), the future of NCC is very unclear. Although no taller buildings than ET are allowed there - it seems that it's not enough for some people - they probably don't want anything to be built in NCC at all.
Some people are planning protests against "the gates of Vilnius" project.
Yes, it seems that many people are looking very negative to all projects in Vilnius - there are no bigger projects who could be built easily without any protests. I think that some people protest just to get some $ from investors.
Gatis March 18th, 2005, 11:04 AM It seems that because of UNESCO (actually because of few people in Lithuania)
...so similar to situation in Riga last year.
I do not think that you should be too sad about VP Market building ;) but Registru centras and Vilniaus Gates is another thing.
Read sad news in Riga thread about VP Market too. 18th March - the sad day of highrise plan defeat :( May be the prolonged winter creates frustration in many minds.
Geex March 23rd, 2005, 06:34 PM Little update
They started to lay the foundation for Registru centras:
http://img237.exs.cx/img237/3484/img83221ny.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
ch1le March 23rd, 2005, 06:41 PM nice quality? but i cant see any foundation? have they driven any piles in?
John March 23rd, 2005, 07:00 PM ^^^
You may see they're already establishing those things (dunno how they're called in English) which will be filled with concrete. That's structural part of the building. Actually you can see a truck with concrete in the picture ;). Piles should follow soon.
ch1le March 23rd, 2005, 07:03 PM i see that they are preparing what seems to be a wall :P But i havent seen any Piledrivers on the site yet (ehe, havent seen as in from pics), the quite tall machines wich pound concrete tubes which into 30-40m in the soil to support the structure! without them, imo a construction cant start.?
Geex March 23rd, 2005, 07:04 PM ^^^ Just like John explained + I already saw pile-driver's (don't know how to call those things in english ;)) in construction area :)
Geex March 23rd, 2005, 07:09 PM i see that they are preparing what seems to be a wall :P But i havent seen any Piledrivers on the site yet (ehe, havent seen as in from pics), the quite tall machines wich pound concrete tubes which into 30-40m in the soil to support the structure! without them, imo a construction cant start.?
I don't know why, but as far as i saw construction sites here they always prepare "wall" around construction site and then dig piles.. Or they are doing everything at the same time :)
Well because i saw few piledriver's i think they will do everything at once ;)
Edd March 23rd, 2005, 07:30 PM Those walls maybe will be of an underground parking. Piledrivers are seen in this photo taken by Mantaz: http://**********************/attachment.php?attachmentid=53
Gatis March 23rd, 2005, 10:31 PM Beautiful picture, Geex! And great works on-going!
Seems, different highrises have different approach. In Panorama Plaza in Riga they drived the piles at first, there was really active work in two shifts for three months just for one 25 floor building - from the end of November to middle of February. Only then they digged incredibly large hole and made concrete walls for underground part. And then started to make underground floors (still doing this).
Let's see how would be made Registru centras.
John March 23rd, 2005, 10:55 PM In "Vilnius Gate" construction they also built concrete walls of the underground parking first, only then piles were made. If everything is ok we'll see piles rising in about one month from now or even earlier. ;)
BoyXm March 24th, 2005, 11:06 AM You may see they're already establishing those things (dunno how they're called in English) which will be filled with concrete. That's structural part of the building.
This is where you can see some workers pours concrete.
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/1122/picture0178jk.jpg
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/3061/picture0156ws.jpg
Ahd there is more visible these piledrivers:
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/9691/picture0220zq.jpg
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/7091/picture0160jn.jpg
John March 24th, 2005, 02:53 PM That's a crappy "visual" I made fitting some highrise projects into the skyline which are currently underway and will be done by late 2007
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/1956/20079uz.jpg
ch1le March 24th, 2005, 02:57 PM save me, coz that will be kick ass!
Oberleutnant March 24th, 2005, 03:03 PM Me = someone who has badly underestimated Vilnius.
ch1le March 24th, 2005, 03:18 PM dont be "broken" so soon :) this is 2007going to 08... alooot of time, other cities can conjure alot up in that time ;) esp. Tallinn :) :)
John March 24th, 2005, 03:31 PM ^^^
Or Klaipeda. ;)
ch1le March 24th, 2005, 03:45 PM true true, but im not sure IF, you see after the shock they most certainly will get after all the highrises will be finished in 2 years time (or 3-4) they will realize, most probably, that there are'nt so many tenants and boom, all business goes down...but then again, who knows...
mic of Orion March 24th, 2005, 07:50 PM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=191611
guys can you plz post some of the public buildings in Baltic's.
Buildings under construction or approved are also allowed, but only public bud lings i.e (Hospitals, Government offices and buildings, Concert Halls, Opera Houses, Theatres, Airports, central stations and so on)
thanx very much...
:)
Geex March 24th, 2005, 07:52 PM ^^^ mic of Orion
I don't have much photos of public buildings, but i will try to find some and post ;)
ShuMi March 24th, 2005, 08:00 PM true true, but im not sure IF, you see after the shock they most certainly will get after all the highrises will be finished in 2 years time (or 3-4) they will realize, most probably, that there are'nt so many tenants and boom, all business goes down...but then again, who knows...
Just few of the highrises will be for business, and I heard somewhere that the K may be a residential as well...
Edd March 24th, 2005, 08:03 PM @John: You forgot to add that that was optimistic version (I already mentioned UNESCO and some protests and etc. - this might change everything pretty much).
John March 24th, 2005, 08:09 PM @Edd
I'm not sure which "version" is that. That's what we know atm, I haven't heard any certain information that any of these projects would be cancelled or reduced in height. And hopefully we won't hear such info ;).
mic of Orion March 24th, 2005, 08:50 PM ^^^ mic of Orion
I don't have much photos of public buildings, but i will try to find some and post ;)
thanx a lot, some-one already did hotels, which are very nice and very authentic,
I would love to ce airports in Riga, Vilnius and Tallinn being posted but also pics of any public building I know one of the Baltic nations is building a nation-al library or something, looking to find the pics of this project... :)
pablonis March 24th, 2005, 10:44 PM "some-one already did hotels, which are very nice and very authentic"
pablonis - not "some-one" ;)
Gatis March 25th, 2005, 01:02 PM @mic of Orion - you can look at National Library of Latvia project in my highrise encyclopaedia. There are more public projects in Riga in design stage, but better not spoil Vilnius thread with other things...
Edd March 25th, 2005, 05:23 PM It's not in Vilnius, but I will post it here:
One of the biggest waterpark in Europe is U/C in Druskininkai, investments ~26 mio EUR. It'll be finished in the end of 2006 year. Some small renderings:
http://img94.exs.cx/img94/3366/vandens1vs.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img211.exs.cx/img211/8951/vandens13tb.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
I'll post some more renderings later.
John March 25th, 2005, 05:30 PM ^^^
Can't wait to see this one built! :eek:
P.S. ar kas nors gali papostinti (ar bent nufotografuoti) ta straipsni is vakar dienos, kur rasoma apie Vyroko "Kvartalo" projekta?
Edd March 25th, 2005, 05:41 PM ^^^
Can't wait to see this one built! :eek:
P.S. ar kas nors gali papostinti (ar bent nufotografuoti) ta straipsni is vakar dienos, kur rasoma apie Vyroko "Kvartalo" projekta?Jei niekas neides anksciau, as idesiu siandien (padarysiu nuotrauku straipsnio). Dabar kraunasi "batareikos", kai pasikraus tada ir idesiu. ;)
BoyXm March 25th, 2005, 08:18 PM buciau seniai idejes jei neismetes laikrascio :bash:
Edd March 25th, 2005, 08:29 PM buciau seniai idejes jei neismetes laikrascio :bash:
Geex jau idejo. ;) Adresas: http://**********************/showthread.php?t=1195
ch1le March 25th, 2005, 08:34 PM It's not in Vilnius, but I will post it here:
One of the biggest waterpark in Europe is U/C in Druskininkai, investments ~26 mio EUR. It'll be finished in the end of 2006 year. Some small renderings:
http://img94.exs.cx/img94/3366/vandens1vs.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img211.exs.cx/img211/8951/vandens13tb.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
I'll post some more renderings later.
heheh, biggest in europe, nice going, in Druskinikai? Cmon people, Lithuania (esp Druskininkai) is not Dubai... build what the people need... and you dont get a rats ass for 26 mio euro :P I know its good for companies to advertise biggest and best and whatever, but you guys should know better to post it here not to say something like this, becuase .. cmon, it cant be one of the biggest in europe, serena Alone (SMALL!) would have cost alot more then that, think of the waterparks in Spain, cyprus or whatever, they live on those things...:P
BoyXm March 25th, 2005, 08:38 PM thanks Edd ;)
Edd March 25th, 2005, 08:40 PM @ch1le: I see that you always have problems with understanding what some sentences in English mean. Read one more time: "One of the biggest" - it does not mean "the biggest".
Edit: One more rendering (quality is bad because it's photo of picture in newspaper):
http://img35.exs.cx/img35/7818/untitled45cu.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
ch1le March 25th, 2005, 10:37 PM i understood one of the biggest, but dont you agree they are really exaturating
Edd March 26th, 2005, 12:22 AM i understood one of the biggest, but dont you agree they are really exaturating
Maybe it is false, I don't know - I just wrote here what was written in one newspaper. Anyway it's a nice project for Druskininkai. :)
Gatis March 26th, 2005, 12:23 AM Anyone building large aquaparks says he is building "one of the biggest". This is trademark of this business ;) No sense to be embarassed. Latvia currently is preparing to get two more "one of the largest in Europe" aquaparks in addition to the "largest in Northern and Eastern Europe" aquapark ;)
I am sure that project owners in Druskininkai will get lots of profit. Location is excellent - they will get lots of people from Belarus as well.
John March 26th, 2005, 01:17 AM Area of the aquapark in Druskininkai will be more than 25,000 square meters. What are sizes of those projects of aquaparks in Latvia (afaik Livu is 11,000 m2)? So I quite believe that the one in Druskininkai might be the biggest.
Gatis March 26th, 2005, 02:19 AM Livu akvaparks is built on 11 000 m2 large land plot, but they do not give total area of floor space - it has several floors - from one "water floor" in some places to five floors in other places. Livu akvaparks is going to be extended. So far they have invested some 17 mio EUR, next investment - of similar size.
Liepaja aquapark (end of 2006) is promised to be 30 000 m2 large.
Another large aquapark is planned in another part of Jurmala (Vaivari) - new "Nemo" aquapark. Look their current Webpage - www.nemo.lv. They have said the standard phrase "one of the largest in Europe" without further details.
Btw. in Poland largest aquaparks reach 30 000 m2 as well
Rokas March 26th, 2005, 03:58 PM A few weeks ago I was in Livu waterpark. I enjoyed it indeed, it's cool and so on.
Gatis said that some Latvian companies are going to build some more waterparks. One should be located in Jurmala as Livu is. I'm a bit siurprized about such intentions because when I was in Livu ( it was Saturday midday time ) there were not too much visitors. I thought that there will be crouds of visitors having fun, but I was wrong. Also about one third of all visitors were from Lithuania for sure. At the car parking all the buses where from Lithuania as well as many cars :) and it was easier to find lithuanian than latvian :D BTW, when the evening was comming the waterpark became more and more empty. everybody were siurprized ( I mean from our group ) . When the waterpark will be built in Druskininkai Latvia will lose a very big part of Lithuanian customers and they will feel it for sure.
BTW, I couldn't understand how such waterpark can have such terrible jacuzzi and sauna's??? Maybe for those who have never been in a normal jacuzzi and sauna it's ok... Jacuzzi is so small and sauna is soo cooold... :( My sport club in Vilnius has much better jacuzzi and hot sauna's :)
Gatis March 26th, 2005, 05:22 PM Eh, I've been there (in Livu akvaparks) two times. First time it was very crowded, other time (around New Year) - less crowded. Never thought of using sauna or jacuzzi there - these things are a bit more private for me.
Regarding Lithuanians and visitors to Livu akvaparks - you are true. Who knows, may be summer is better, Livu aquaparks says that they are financially very successful...
ch1le March 26th, 2005, 06:20 PM Well, i think people mostly like to go to waterparks and so on in the summer when its hot and all, when its cold outside i dont think alot about swimming... plus im sure Jurmala gets most of its visitors in summer! But good point there that they will lose lithuanian visitors!
Edd March 29th, 2005, 12:56 PM Some sketches of Kempinski hotel in Vilnius (It was said that this version will not be approved by heritage protectors - because new constructions are not allowed in old town.):
http://img92.exs.cx/img92/8423/rend10sa.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img238.exs.cx/img238/3756/rend23du.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/8610/rend38hy.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img222.exs.cx/img222/4448/rend40qc.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img210.exs.cx/img210/7681/rend58co.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img202.exs.cx/img202/7248/rend66gt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Geex March 29th, 2005, 04:21 PM Reconstruction of Kalvariju market will start this spring.
Very good news as Kalvariu market is located near NCC and now it look's kinda ugly. Reconstruction works should start 2005.04-05
http://img100.exs.cx/img100/2749/untitled24hl.jpg
Geex March 29th, 2005, 04:28 PM Update for 28fl@Registru centras
It seem's they allready finished preparation works for foundation laying and now are pouring concrete.
http://img36.exs.cx/img36/9803/img84344ev.jpg
http://img36.exs.cx/img36/9691/img84359xf.jpg
And update for Vyrokas. Section C is now allmost finished.
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/7080/img84397mh.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/3599/img84463gy.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
sdes March 29th, 2005, 05:20 PM Thanks for the update Geex.
Vyrokas looks cool, I like it quite much :)
Geex March 31st, 2005, 12:46 PM New two-level intersection will be build in Vilnius.
http://img122.exs.cx/img122/8269/untitled19nh.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
They will demolish old soviet times factory and some old houses (marked in the map) in order to clear way for new road and two-level intersection.
Construction should start in few months. And idea is very good as Ukmerges street is one of most crowded street's in Vilnius and it will be even more crowded when NCC will develop further.
Lvovo street will be connected directly to Ukmerges street, this way people will be able to drive from NCC directly to sleeping districts in Vilnius (Seskine, Fabijoniskes, Pasilaiciai, ~150000k people).
vytauc March 31st, 2005, 01:41 PM New two-level intersection will be build in Vilnius.
This is just great- those traffic jams every day in that place are just killing me. This is a very good and long waited news.
Edd March 31st, 2005, 01:47 PM Constructions will start in few months?? :eek:
Great news!
Those who want to see short video which shows this intersection: www.development.lt > START > press on egg near Vilnius on the map > press "the new part of the city centre" > Video > Video simulation III
Moolio March 31st, 2005, 01:55 PM Does any of you know what's the overall office-use floorspace in NCC currently?
Edd March 31st, 2005, 02:02 PM Does any of you know what's the overall office-use floorspace in NCC currently?
New office space is about 35 000 sq. m. In old crappy buildings there is some more office space but not much.
Moolio March 31st, 2005, 02:53 PM Are you sure? That doesn't sound right, it has to be more than that. The floorspace of Nokia in Keilaniemi has about 34'000 sqr m of floorspace. Perhaps that's ET alone?
John March 31st, 2005, 02:55 PM Are you sure? That doesn't sound right, it has to be more than that. The floorspace of Nokia in Keilaniemi has about 34'000 sqr m of floorspace. Perhaps that's ET alone?
ET is about 17,000m2 and Municipality building is about 15,000m2 so that's about right. These were the first office buildings in the area built only last year.
ch1le March 31st, 2005, 03:39 PM Are you sure? That doesn't sound right, it has to be more than that. The floorspace of Nokia in Keilaniemi has about 34'000 sqr m of floorspace. Perhaps that's ET alone?
high office buildings in baltics are built because of pride and high $$$, not because of floorspace ;)
Geex March 31st, 2005, 03:49 PM Well in next few years those figures will be much higher. I don't know how much floorspace Registru centras and Hanza bank HQ will have, but still they will be nice addition to NCC.
+ Kvartalas project with total of 120 000 sqr m. floorspace, but not all of it will be commercial. It will be mixed use ;)
John March 31st, 2005, 03:59 PM Hansabank should be around 20,000 and so should be the Center of registers. so 40,000 m2 more by mid 2006.
ch1le March 31st, 2005, 04:10 PM youll get loads of office space! Thats nice, i havent seen any large office buildings in Tallinn pop up since City plaza, its kinda weird, we should be expecting something big soon too since 1 office building in period 2003-2005 sounds weird :P
Mantas April 4th, 2005, 09:48 PM * Rumors *
"Bread of Vilnius" is selling its factory across the street from Helios and the buyers are going to build something high (thx dr. jackal for info)
View to factory taken from Helios by Lithuanian forumer Romas
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/romas3/VLN%20Helios/09940025.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/romas3/VLN%20Helios/09950007.jpg
sander April 4th, 2005, 10:32 PM Again something high... Good news for Vilnius, that area looks very messy with these factory and residential buildings anyway, so one high-rise building will make this district nicer & neater.
_keen_ April 4th, 2005, 11:16 PM Baisu
Mantas April 4th, 2005, 11:27 PM Baisu
What so scary? ;)
John April 5th, 2005, 12:34 AM Looks like Chernobyl :ohno:
blimey April 5th, 2005, 12:53 AM Damn that area is ugly :puke:
Kommandant Mark April 5th, 2005, 12:55 AM Looks a lot like Toronto...not really that ugly, just gritty:yes:
Kim André April 5th, 2005, 05:19 PM Hehe, what's up with this "Coca-Cola plaza" place? :D Is it a store/café where they only sell Coca-Cola products?
Geex April 5th, 2005, 05:24 PM ^^^ Multiplex cinema ;)
ch1le April 5th, 2005, 05:24 PM Again something high... Good news for Vilnius, that area looks very messy with these factory and residential buildings anyway, so one high-rise building will make this district nicer & neater.
;) Hehehe one high rise building! These photos are made from HELIOS TOWER!!! And belive me the area isnt too far from downtown, it took me 15 minutes to walk from ncc to that place :)
@KIm Andre, Coca cola plaza comes from the first multiplex cinema in the baltics the estonian Coca cola plaza ;) I was surprised to see a similar one in Vilnius, it apparently had same architectural elements too ;) :sleepy:
Geex April 5th, 2005, 05:29 PM ;) Hehehe one high rise building! These photos are made from HELIOS TOWER!!! And belive me the area isnt too far from downtown, it took me 15 minutes to walk from ncc to that place :)
@KIm Andre, Coca cola plaza comes from the first multiplex cinema in the baltics the estonian Coca cola plaza ;) I was surprised to see a similar one in Vilnius, it apparently had same architectural elements too ;) :sleepy:
Hmm.. so Forum cinemas is naming all their cinemas "Coca-Cola plaza" around here? It's good they don't call it something like PopCorn Pizza Coca-Cola plaza ;)
I wonder how they didn't managed to call another multiplex cinema "Coca-Cola plaza 2" in Vilnius ;)
Mantas April 5th, 2005, 05:39 PM Coca-Cola Plaza is somehow related to VPmarket. Not sure how, but their co-operation is evident :|
ch1le April 5th, 2005, 05:40 PM they are indeed going to name all of their buildings coca cola plaza ;)... is there really another coca-cola plaza in vilnius a second one? Freaky, tallinn has just 1 multiplex cinema, and it is monopolizing.. :( There are plans for 2 more multiplex though
@mantaz na cant be, its a swedish company iirc, Forum cinemas, VpMarket might be doing sponsorship and branding deals :)
Mantas April 5th, 2005, 05:50 PM There used to be "Akropolis cinema" until VPmarket rented it to "Forum Cinemas" who renamed it "Forum Cinemas Akropolis". The prices got up then.
Also VPmarket bought the former leader "Lietuva" cinema and now they are going to close and destroy it (that means ~90% of market goes to "Forum Cinemas"). Perhaps the prices will go up again :(
ch1le April 5th, 2005, 05:53 PM they surely will ;) the cinema tickets in estonia are ranked as highest in the world (i dont remember top 5), because Coca cola plazas dominion ;)
Mantas April 5th, 2005, 05:59 PM ^^^ Yep, it's so fun to sit in the movie with couple more people around ;)
RGG April 6th, 2005, 10:43 AM Today is the great day as there are official news that "Lithuanian Telecom" will sell it's 9 buildings in Naujamiestis area and start to construct a highriser for 700 - 1000 it's employees. The company predicts the building to be 20000 sq meters (could be 30+ floors). The construction starts in spring 2006 and finishes in summer 2007.
source: delfis
Geex April 6th, 2005, 11:00 AM ^^^
We still don't know how high it will be, i'll think it could be something between 12-20 floor's, because of new limit's in NCC.
Anyway it's great news, this building will be rather high or not very high (12-20 floors) and will be another nice addition to NCC. And 20000 sq meters mean's that building (if it will be not very high) will be very massive and i like massive building's. :banana:
According to info it will be build somewhere in Lvovo street, so it will be somewhere near ET, Registru Centras and Kvartalas.
And one more thing, most of project's will start in 2005-2006 (Kvartalas, Telekomas new building, Hanza bank HQ, RC tower) so we will have a lot of cranes again! :)
Mantas April 6th, 2005, 11:31 AM Great news for today :cheers:
BoyXm April 6th, 2005, 11:37 AM that is relly unexpected news :cheers: Hope that they will somehow get an order for the higher building than 12 floorer, but ofcourse massive building in NCC also could be very good adition :)
Geex April 6th, 2005, 11:55 AM Good news!
New high-rise building in NCC
More info can be found here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=199136
Location:
http://img201.exs.cx/img201/87/untitled32fa.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Edd April 6th, 2005, 02:06 PM OK, what do you think of this reconstruction?
Before:
http://www.paveldas.vilnius.lt/Photo/21864/13-1-1.jpg
After (photo taken by Mantaz):
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/7417/IMGP2297.jpg
Geex April 6th, 2005, 06:01 PM More good news.
And Another high-rise in Vilnius. Already U/C.
Status: U/C
Construction end date: 2006/Q4
Purpose: mixed
Photos By Mantaz
http://img190.exs.cx/img190/9072/imgp29434pc.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img190.exs.cx/img190/6239/imgp29371wn.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
ch1le April 6th, 2005, 06:04 PM a very pretty & urban looking building! ;)
tournesol April 6th, 2005, 06:19 PM OK, what do you think of this reconstruction?
Before:
http://www.paveldas.vilnius.lt/Photo/21864/13-1-1.jpg
After (photo taken by Mantaz):
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/7417/IMGP2297.jpg
Woow, that's REALLY a big improvement :okay:
I hope the interior has been given the same treatment... :)
Geex April 8th, 2005, 12:31 PM ^^^
Yeah i hope more commies will be renovated like this one :)
Edd April 8th, 2005, 01:04 PM And what do you think about this reconstruction? :)
Before:
http://img188.exs.cx/img188/1964/14122vq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
After (photo by Mantaz):
http://img199.exs.cx/img199/3083/imgp48002my.jpg
http://img154.exs.cx/img154/8727/neoimage4km.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
sander April 8th, 2005, 01:37 PM Nice. So getting rid of Soviet grit isn`t that hard, I wish that it`ll be done with lots of ugly Soviet buildings.
John April 8th, 2005, 02:18 PM It's really not that difficult to bring a new face to any building. I liked the facade solution of "Lietuvos energija" building. The building itself is absolutely nothing interesting but second facade and lighting make it look somewhat beautiful despite its dull shape.
Maris VX April 8th, 2005, 05:27 PM Seven Lithuanian construction companies are taking part in the tender for building a new pavilion of Litexpo, the largest fair centre in the Baltic states.
Companies YIT Kausta, Hrono Statyba, Vetruna, Kortas and Kazlu Rudos Metalas, consortium Muras Ir Ko and a consortium of Skala, Eikos Statyba and Skalos Statyba have filed bids to the tender. This information was revealed after the public procurement commission of the tender on Friday unsealed envelopes with offers. Litexpo reported that it had sold 12 sets of privatization documents since the beginning of the tender on February 18. The company intends to announce the winner at the end of April. The construction of the new pavilion should start on May 10. This project is the most important part in the first stage of the development and modernization of Litexpo, which started on Sept 1 of 2004 and will be completed on Aug 31 of next year. "The implementation of this project will both ensure the position of Litexpo as the largest fair centre in the Baltic region and help the centre become a modern international hub of business, conferences and congresses in this region," Aloyzas Tarvydas, the head of Litexpo, said. For the first stage of this project, Litexpo will spend about 27 million litas (8 million euros). The European Union will contribute 8 million litas (2.3 million euros) to this project.
Source: ELTA.
Edd April 8th, 2005, 05:46 PM Here is that new pavilion (taken from www.palekas.lt):
http://img233.exs.cx/img233/7582/19rn.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Litexpo is in a bad state - they need much investitions to improve. There isn't enough place for a cars, etc. etc.
Mantas April 8th, 2005, 05:49 PM Thanks for the news :)
Geex April 12th, 2005, 03:17 PM Construction Update for Vilnius :)
BCC2 U/C
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/2972/bcc21uc9uc.jpg
And few photos around it:
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/7426/bccvictoria23mn.jpg
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/8886/bccvictoria32nw.jpg
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/5051/bccvictoria42mq.jpg
Now let's move to Vilniaus vartais construction site:
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/6425/img8676filtered6gv.jpg
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/5445/img8678filtered1bn.jpg
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/1668/img8679filtered9ws.jpg
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/7895/img8681filtered7ua.jpg
Some old houses under demolition near Vilniaus Vartai (don't know what they are planing to do here)
http://img229.echo.cx/img229/2304/img8682filtered9if.jpg
And Vyrokas
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/5337/img8692filtered4ae.jpg
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/3199/img8693filtered6ar.jpg
mic of Orion April 12th, 2005, 05:07 PM Update for 28fl@Registru centras
It seem's they allready finished preparation works for foundation laying and now are pouring concrete.
http://img36.exs.cx/img36/9803/img84344ev.jpg
http://img36.exs.cx/img36/9691/img84359xf.jpg
And update for Vyrokas. Section C is now allmost finished.
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/7080/img84397mh.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/3599/img84463gy.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
I think Vilnius is getting great business district, looks awesome... Like the fact Lithuania is doing great and despite its history and small size could stand on its 2 feet and show 2 fingers to Russia and show how it can become independent, free prosperous democracy...
nice pics...
Geex April 29th, 2005, 07:18 PM Yahoo! NCC will get rid of yeat another soviet monster.
National gallery will be reconstructed (this building is totally abandoned). And they should build 6fl building near it.
Some pics. They already started preparation works (well they fenced in whole territory).
+ Bonus some pics of this abandoned building ;)
http://img181.echo.cx/img181/2543/img893813pc.jpg
http://img181.echo.cx/img181/6628/img894110ux.jpg
http://img181.echo.cx/img181/5713/img894314oo.jpg
http://img181.echo.cx/img181/9108/img894212qw.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img181.echo.cx/img181/7984/img893918zt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
sander April 29th, 2005, 08:05 PM That`s the thing what makes me happier too- when Soviet monsters are reconstructed or demolished. :okay:
_keen_ April 30th, 2005, 08:34 PM ^^^ There were some amazing graffitis near national gallery (before somebody started cleaning those walls). Probably biggest site of such street art in Vilnius. This place with river and view had its charm some years ago...
John April 30th, 2005, 08:40 PM I wouldn't call it "monster", at least not because it's Soviet. ;)
It's neglected now but from the architectural point of view it's a fine example of Modern of those times and I'm sure it's gonna look great after renovation.
Mantas May 1st, 2005, 12:16 PM The building is on the left. Still great news! ;)
http://img.miestai.net/IMGP0024.JPG
deSad May 1st, 2005, 10:45 PM I wouldn't call it "monster", at least not because it's Soviet. ;)
It's neglected now but from the architectural point of view it's a fine example of Modern of those times and I'm sure it's gonna look great after renovation.
i agree it's quite nice building, one of the best soviet a think in vilnius.
as i can remember, it was a national modern art gallery
Edd May 7th, 2005, 10:53 PM This is not fully confirmed yet but the population of Vilnius after a long time is growing again. During 2004 year the population grew by 276 people. This is not much but I think that it'll get bigger "speed" this year. :) Interesting how much time it'll take for us to reach population which we had some years ago - 600 000.
Mantas May 7th, 2005, 11:04 PM ^^^ I they take into account only people who are registering that they live in Vilnius. Say for me, I officially live in Utena, but I actually live in Vilnius :D
Edd May 7th, 2005, 11:08 PM ^^^ I they take into account only people who are registering that they live in Vilnius. Say for me, I officially live in Utena, but I actually live in Vilnius :DYes, I know and there are many such people, the real population might be already 600 000 but it's not official. ;)
deSad May 7th, 2005, 11:33 PM all the students that are coming from other parts of lithuania are registered usualy in thier native towns so if we count them 600 000 is possible :)
ShuMi May 8th, 2005, 09:51 AM Aha, but then you have to remember all those like John who are registered in Vilnius, but does`nt realy live there. Isn`t that right?
Quack May 8th, 2005, 10:39 AM Isn`t that right?
Yes it is :hahaha:
Edd May 8th, 2005, 01:58 PM Aha, but then you have to remember all those like John who are registered in Vilnius, but does`nt realy live there. Isn`t that right?
Yes, we remember John. :D But there are more such people who are registered in other places but live in Vilnius than those who are registered in Vilnius and live somewhere else.
deSad May 8th, 2005, 02:03 PM :)
Geex May 26th, 2005, 11:54 AM I see we abandoned this thread.. ;) I will try to make some updates.
Ok so for now..
Project "Sauletekio slenis" (sun valley).
If you followed Vilnius D. threads you already know about this project, but until now it was really unclear when this project will start. So Vilnius city municipality yesterday transfered first money for this project (for preparation work's & so on). Construction should start next year.
And here we go with latest render (i'm really glad about high-rise ;))
http://img266.echo.cx/img266/788/img974516rm.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Well usually we don't post much news about new apartment buildings, but this one is really interesting (i think).
Project "Kabantys sodai" (Hanging gardens).
It's could be very usual project, BUT next to the new 10@fl apartment building they plan to build 5000 sqm hanging gardens (from those gardens you will see really nice panoramic views).
Here is render to understand better:
http://img261.echo.cx/img261/1994/img974819pc.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
New shopping center "Ozas" will go U/C soon.
http://img261.echo.cx/img261/1810/img974913vs.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
It seem's retail market is booming in Vilnius and in next two years it's expected that total retail space in Vilnius will triple.
Here is a little map of Vilnius city central area (red dot's already builded. yellow dot's U/C or planned)
http://img286.echo.cx/img286/985/img974610jb.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Here is another shopping center "Panorama" (renders was already posted). They are now finishing demolition of old buildings:
http://img261.echo.cx/img261/1298/img975114tu.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Mantas August 25th, 2005, 03:15 PM Seems like Vilnius is getting another complex with a highrise. Atm a big territory with domus Sznipiszki is being cleaned. No detail info yet. Some photos by Geex
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2281/img059413xa.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2010/img059618if.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/5976/img059211lj.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6172/img059715he.jpg
_keen_ August 27th, 2005, 04:31 PM More info would be nice ...
Geex August 28th, 2005, 09:08 PM More info would be nice ...
You can find more info on Lithuanian forum: http://tinkle.miestai.net/showpost.php?p=47462&postcount=165
;)
Geex August 28th, 2005, 09:12 PM And our good friend Green Hanner will have new friend, another office building is now U/C:
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8826/img0695filtered6ek.jpg
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6853/img0697filtered9fd.jpg
Geex August 30th, 2005, 10:39 AM Construction of new district in Vilnius:
Photo (C) wtme
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/wtme/santariskes/DSCF4089.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/wtme/santariskes/DSCF4100.jpg
Edd August 30th, 2005, 11:12 AM Some images and information from www.plh.dk
SBA office building:
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9119/sba2qm.jpg
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1337/untitled14mw.jpg
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5500/untitled23si.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5449/untitled39kt.jpg
Information from me: This tower was approved. We don't know why but there are still no works at the construction site.
Telecom office building:
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3809/telecom6bk.jpg
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/844/untitled48ok.jpg
Information from me: So far Telecom has permission to build only 12 floor building in that area. The project has not been chosen yet.
Mall "Gedimino9":
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2483/ged93be.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/2536/untitled58jd.jpg
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/3172/untitled66dd.jpg
Information from me: The project was approved and it was changed - it'll not be the same as we see in these renderings.
Mantas August 30th, 2005, 11:31 AM Hey, thanks for those renderings :okay:
ch1le August 30th, 2005, 12:06 PM telecom building is simply fabulous!
Gatis August 30th, 2005, 12:56 PM All three seem to be high-end projects. Telekom would be grand
paku August 30th, 2005, 01:03 PM Some great projects for Vilnius! :okay:
Edd August 30th, 2005, 01:53 PM Telecom tower by plh architects is just one of contestants but we don't know anything more about which project will be realised. At official website www.telekomas.lt there was even said that they are not sure if they'll build new HQ at all - it was said that they'll make calculations and then they'll decide.
Mall "Gedimino9" is aproved and we already know that works of "Gedimino9" will be done by company "Constructus" ( their website: www.constructus.lt ) and the construction works will begin in this autumn. SBA tower is aproved but it seems that they still have not chosen construction company and even if it's aproved the delays with this project seems strange and personally I can't give 100% that it'll be built.
Gatis August 30th, 2005, 02:45 PM personally I can't give 100% that it'll be built
Hope that it will be built - at least they could sell the project+site to somebody else, if they feel too weak for it. This project is neede in Baltics
Edd August 30th, 2005, 02:51 PM It seems that project "Kabantys sodai" ("Hanging gardens") by "ŽIA valda" will have 16 floors. Now "ŽIA valda" is choosing construction company out of these three: UAB „Ranga IV“, UAB „Constructus“ and AB „Panevėžio Statybos Trestas“. Some low quality renderings:
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/6388/113iu.jpg
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7639/27jr.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2296/20527vf.jpg
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7043/2066fw.jpg
Source: www.ziavalda.lt
Edd August 30th, 2005, 03:01 PM Hope that it will be built - at least they could sell the project+site to somebody else, if they feel too weak for it. This project is neede in Baltics
I hope so too, it still is my favourite project in Vilnius.
Mantas August 30th, 2005, 03:27 PM Hm, I don't find the "Hanging gardens" anyhow to do with the real hanging gardens :dunno: But thanks again!
Edd August 30th, 2005, 03:37 PM I'll post some more information, since this thread has not been updated for a while.
Quite poor rendering which I found in www.merko.lt of shopping center "Panorama". It's also written there that it'll have 65 000 m^2 of space. This shopping center will have underground parking, that's quite unusual for such big malls in Lithuania:
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6465/image6uc.jpg
Mixed use 16 floor highrise of "Andova" "update" (in quotes since photos are quite old).
Rendering:
http://www.andova.lt/dabar/miszir/vizija.jpg
Photos by Mantaz:
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2298/imgp55046iu.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4779/imgp55120dt.jpg
Some "commie" high-rises:
16-floorer by Skala:
Rendering
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6571/88790d5537b8e4dd04f2703ab8c047.jpg
Photos by Mantaz:
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9309/imgp55005ur.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3581/imgp55019nq.jpg
Oh well, at first I thought to post big update, but I think it's better to wait for more fresh photos and those who are interested in "commie" and not "commie" high-rise and not high-rise updates can always visit Lithuanian forum. :)
sander August 30th, 2005, 03:39 PM "Kabantys sodai" looks cool for a boxy building and I like that garden beside that high-rise.
Edd August 30th, 2005, 03:49 PM One small project which I like since it'll completely change commieblockish building. HQ of bank "Snoras" will be reconstructed:
http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/7500/untitled13my.jpg
delfin_pl August 30th, 2005, 08:09 PM those projects are amazing, I've never seen any bad kitchy design in Vilnius, congratulations
Geex August 30th, 2005, 08:31 PM Project "Kvartalas" speeding up:
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7420/img071111bl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
ch1le August 30th, 2005, 09:04 PM oo. that 16 floorer (what you called commie) Looks fucking great on render!
blimey August 30th, 2005, 09:54 PM Wow, that PHL proposal looks amazing. I definately hope it gets built, would be by far the best tower in Vilnius. Quality stuff.
Vaidas August 31st, 2005, 11:23 AM Hm, I don't find the "Hanging gardens" anyhow to do with the real hanging gardens :dunno: But thanks again!
Well it has a garden on the roof of the building. Isn't such thing called a "hanging garden"? :)
Mantas August 31st, 2005, 11:51 AM Well it has a garden on the roof of the building. Isn't such thing called a "hanging garden"? :)
Are yous serious? It could be garden there, but I wouldn't call it hanging. Take a look at the original stuff
http://gallery.mudpuddle.co.nz/albums/public/garden1.sized.jpg
Vaidas August 31st, 2005, 11:58 AM Take a closer look at those renders. The whole park with the small pond, the pathways and trees is actually on the roof of a lowrise building ;)
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/6388/113iu.jpg
BTW, I know how the gardens of Babylon looked like, and they weren't exactly hanging either, were they? ;)
ch1le August 31st, 2005, 12:00 PM /\ well to be honest they were :D alot of wines and growths hung off the sides of the wall! :D
Mantas August 31st, 2005, 12:03 PM What do you want me to tell, that I don't see the garden on the roof (I was also talking about lower part) ;) I might plant some flora in my balcony and that would be more real hanging garden than this project :| I wouldn't mind calling it hanging if they planned it in terraces, not like "another usage of garage roof" ;)
Edd August 31st, 2005, 12:13 PM @Mantaz: From your talks it seems that the main idea of this forum is not the projects itself but the names of them. Btw, "Kabantys sodai" is one of the best names for project if you compare it to others like Akropolis, Babilonas, VIPsilaiciai, Grand duke palace, CocaColaPlaza and other nonsenses but I didn't notice that you were so captious towards those names as you are with this one. I think that this project has more associations with its name (it has gardens) than Akropolis with real Akropolis or Bablionas to real Babylon. And your balcony with plants will not be more real hanging gardens than this project that's for sure. :D
Vaidas August 31st, 2005, 12:17 PM Ok, nevermind, I misunderstood you :)
Anyway, it's just a name ;)
EDIT: Edd just wrote exactly what I wanted to say :D
ch1le August 31st, 2005, 12:19 PM i think why mantaz is getting on this name is because Hanging gardens is much more then a parking lot with shrubs ;) But the other names are really ridiculous too...
anyhow Estonia is in a "plaza" craze ;)
Geex August 31st, 2005, 12:26 PM .. I might plant some flora in my balcony and that would be more real hanging garden than this project.. ;)
If you will do something like this let us know, we will go to take some photos and put them in Vilnius development thread ;)
Edd August 31st, 2005, 12:31 PM ^^ Maybe we should create a new thread about proposed hanging gardens project for Vilnius by Mantaz. :D
Geex August 31st, 2005, 12:34 PM Well i'm not very good at design, but..
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6297/untitled0da1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Gatis August 31st, 2005, 12:38 PM OMG, if Vilnius would be fast enough, you will get rooftop gardens faster than us... although here were planned many of them. Supermarket "Olympia" planned to have them already in 2003, but now the project has been canceled. Rooftop gardens in Jurmala "gates" project (look my Riga thread) will not come that early - not before 2008. "da Vinci" project will have huge inner tropical garden - but who knows when they will make it. "Stavie darzi" (Vertical gardens) 37-floor project with fantastic inner gardens along whole 37-floors did not win competition and they will have something else (Vertikala pasaule) without gardens instead...
Edd August 31st, 2005, 12:42 PM @Geex: Not bad at all but 2 meters is maybe too much - just think what heritage protectors will say about it. :ohno:
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