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drfeelgood17
December 17th, 2005, 05:13 AM
so this is Fiesta de Peñafrancia. interesting. what's the name of the river?

Yup it's called the Penafrancia festival and it's the biggest Marian festival in the RP. Many Bicolano expats try to go home in September for this reason.
Two rivers meet in Naga : they are the Naga river (the smaller one) and the Bicol river. This is the main reason why the Naga area is so prone to flooding.
The deadly incidents Olineil was talking about was probably the one in 1973 (according to my mother) when the Colgante bridge collapsed and 100 + people were killed (you know, many people can't swin in Pinas....) Fortunately these incidents are very rare and they've since built sturdier bridges. I can't believe we're almost on to Part III ! Thanks for all your efforts, guys! :)

Here's the official website:

http://www.penafrancia.net/

There are better pics on the Naga City website:

http://www.naga.gov.ph/

manileño
December 17th, 2005, 05:55 AM
Can we do a city vs city here for Legazpi and Naga? what's more important between the 2? economically? politically? :) Both cities are served by PAL yea?

drfeelgood17
December 17th, 2005, 06:12 AM
Can we do a city vs city here for Legazpi and Naga? what's more important between the 2? economically? politically? :) Both cities are served by PAL yea?

hmmm do we really want to start another Iloilo-Bacolod war? The rivalry is quite similar I think. I used to think that Naga was bigger, but all the stats (Census etc) prove that Legazpi is bigger and has been bigger since at least the early 80s. Legazpi also has a neighbouring town called Daraga, which when combined with Legazpi would increase its population to around 300,000, overtaking Calamba's 280,000. In fact that's how I see them, de facto, as one city in all but name. For economic importance, check out the BIR factsheet that Olineil posted 2 or 3 pages back - it shows Legazpi significantly ahead of Naga in revenue collection. PAL serves Legazpi, not sure if it does Naga. Naga's airport is actually located in Pili and not as big or important as the Legazpi airport.However, I saw Naga's bus terminal and it looks much bigger than Legazpi's ...anyway...I'm not sure if this would work as there are no Naguenos here to defend Naga...unless they're all hiding. :)

Maybe it's better if Bicolanos worked together rather than envying each other and fostering division? :)

@Olineil, I tried reposting a pic as you suggested, but can't for some reason...maybe it's because we've reached the limit?

manileño
December 17th, 2005, 06:33 AM
errm well, competition is always good innit, anyway you win, for me. you got Mayon and they dont. or can you view Mayon from Naga as well?

olineil
December 17th, 2005, 06:54 AM
@Olineil, I tried reposting a pic as you suggested, but can't for some reason...maybe it's because we've reached the limit?

Hmmm...I stated my message wrongly...I actually created a "Legazpi City, Bicol Region Thread III" already. You can repost the last two pages of images at the new trhead for more exposure. That what I meant...sorry for the wrong message...

olineil
December 17th, 2005, 06:55 AM
Lets continue here Boys n Girls... :dance: :dance:

Where are you guys...LOL...19 views no replies :gaah:

Sinjin P.
December 17th, 2005, 08:32 AM
Wow 3rd thread! Congrats!

tigidig14
December 17th, 2005, 09:00 AM
galing ng pagkagawa madaming polaroid :D

tigidig14
December 17th, 2005, 09:01 AM
oops

tigidig14
December 17th, 2005, 09:01 AM
duble

sugbuanon
December 17th, 2005, 10:55 AM
WOOOHHHHOOO 3rd thread na ang bicol... great job olineil!!! ilabas na ang beer at ang pili nuts!!! :D

Sinjin P.
December 17th, 2005, 11:10 AM
H'wag kalimutan...ang BICOL EXPRESS!

olineil
December 17th, 2005, 03:19 PM
Thank you...thank you...thank you very much...(with the Elvis presley tone)

Jefferyi
December 17th, 2005, 06:32 PM
:applause: Good job man.

rustyboi
December 17th, 2005, 06:50 PM
very charming city! especially the most beautiful volcano on earth. ;)

great job olineil! :applause:

drfeelgood17
December 17th, 2005, 07:38 PM
Wow Olineil - great collage and intro - !! :applause: :pepper: :cheers:

drfeelgood17
December 17th, 2005, 07:48 PM
@Olineil, is this the pic you wanted to repost?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/4302020Legaspi.jpg

drfeelgood17
December 17th, 2005, 07:50 PM
or maybe this?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/4322020Legaspi.jpg

drfeelgood17
December 17th, 2005, 09:25 PM
MORE LEGAZPI PICS

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/sub5.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/sub2.jpg

olineil
December 18th, 2005, 03:13 AM
First posted 03:19am (Mla time) Dec 18, 2005
Inquirer



Editor's Note: Published on page A17 of the December 18, 2005 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

LEGAZPI CITY — Three persons drowned as heavy rains brought flash floods in at least 12 towns in four provinces in Bicol, forcing 1,750 families to flee, according to the Office of Civil Defense (OCD) here.

Arnel Capili, OCD regional director, said only one of the casualties was identified by the Municipal Disaster Coordinating Council of Malinao in Albay. The victim was Ramir Candano.

The other two were residents of Bacon, Sorsogon but their identities have yet to be determined, Capili said.

The rains were brought by tropical depression “Quedan” which moved west southwest yesterday and was over northern Palawan as of 11 p.m.

The Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical, Astronomical Services Administration (Pagasa) said Quedan was expected to be 300 km of Coron, Palawan this morning.

Public storm signal No. 1 was raised over Mindoro, Lubang Island, Antique, Aklan, Pagasa Island, Palawan, the Calamian Group and Cuyo Island.

Metro Manila will experience
partly cloudy to cloudy skies with rainshowers and thunderstorms.

Heavy rains caused floods in some areas of Albay, Camarines Sur, Sorsogon and Catanduanes.

But the worst hit was Camarines Sur, with more than 1,700 families evacuated in the municipality of Bato, which had five flooded villages—barangays Sta. Cruz, Tres Reyes, Divina Pastora, San Rafael and Santiago.

The heavy rains also prompted the Philippine Ports Authority to cancel all sea travel from major ports in the region, leaving at least 300 passengers and 10 vessels stranded in the ports of Bulan and Pilar, both in Sorsogon.

In Mindoro, unabated rains and the damaged protection dike, which has not yet been repaired, caused the Bocayao and Mag-asawang Tubig rivers to overflow once again, threatening to submerge the City of Calapan.

Residents fear a repeat of last week’s flooding that left two people dead.

“If the rains do not stop, I am afraid the floodwaters would be even higher than that of last week,” city administrator Doy Leachon said in a telephone interview.

Leachon also reported that evacuation of residents in threatened areas has started.

In Barangay Sta. Isabel, at least 24 families have already been evacuated.

In Palawan, rains have stopped, allowing government engineering personnel to start repairing damaged roads.

Relief goods were sent to Aborlan town for 200 families.

tigidig14
December 18th, 2005, 06:44 AM
ang dami daw baha sa mga bikol region

manileño
December 18th, 2005, 07:18 AM
Congrats on your 3rd thread! :rock:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a328/nomdeusuario/vulcanmayon.jpg

drfeelgood17
December 18th, 2005, 08:03 AM
ang dami daw baha sa mga bikol region


nakakatawa yung avatar mo tigs - lalo na pag medyo serious yung comment mo :)

Askal82
December 18th, 2005, 09:50 AM
^^ Mount Fuji of Japan looks nothing compared to the perfect cone shape of the majestic Mayon Volcano.

olineil
December 18th, 2005, 04:43 PM
Mayon and Legazpi city 1926. Look at the crater...Hi-Res Link (http://images.google.com.sg/imgres?imgurl=http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/historic/c%26gs/images/big/cgs00021.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/historic/c%26gs/cgs00021.htm&h=1740&w=2500&sz=2221&tbnid=m7Sq1EaFSqw-SM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=150&hl=en&start=50&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMt.%2BMayon%2B%26start%3D40%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/Albay/cgs00021.jpg

http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/historic/c&gs/images/cgs00020.jpg

Another Mayon Pic (Look at those Sexy curves...No wonder it was called Daragang Magayon). It also shows how Mayon heals herself in time. So the current damage she has suffered from the latest eruptions will be healed in due time.
http://geothermal.marin.org/GEOpresentation/images/img018.jpg

drfeelgood17
December 18th, 2005, 05:09 PM
[QUOTE=olineil]Mayon and Legazpi city 1926. Look at the crater...Hi-Res Link (http://images.google.com.sg/imgres?imgurl=http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/historic/c%26gs/images/big/cgs00021.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/historic/c%26gs/cgs00021.htm&h=1740&w=2500&sz=2221&tbnid=m7Sq1EaFSqw-SM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=150&hl=en&start=50&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMt.%2BMayon%2B%26start%3D40%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/Albay/cgs00021.jpg

Great find Olineil! This must be the oldest pic I've seen of Legazpi so far! It looks like the early Penaranda St to me.

olineil
December 18th, 2005, 05:09 PM
You can easily see how Amazed the Americans were about Mayon during their time...

http://www.bohol.ph/img/USPhil-Rev-B.jpg http://www.bohol.ph/img/USPhil-Rev-A.jpg

US-Philippines coins

IJsselstein, Sunday, 25 September 2005 18:00:41

After the Spanish-American war, Spain ceded the Philippines to the Unites States for a amount of 20 million dollars in the 1898 Treaty of Paris.
Reverse of US-Philippines 1 Centavo.
The currency situation was in a state of disarray. The colony needed a new working coinage system which showed the colony's new identity.

In 1903, all Spanish-Philippines issues were withdrawn from circulation and melted, replaced by the new series of coins.

The minor coins (the half centavo, one centavo, and five centavos) were made of bronze and featured the figure of an adolescent male seated at an anvil and holding a hammer in his right hand. In the distance is seen the smoking volcano of Mt. Mayon. The statement of value appears in English, while the name of the colony is written below in Spanish (FILIPINAS).

Silver was used for the larger denominated coins (10, 20 and 50 centavos and then the 1 peso). The obverses of these showed a standing figure of a female wearing a long gown and holding a hammer resting atop an anvil. Behind her is again Mt. Mayon.Full Article... (http://www.bohol.ph/article111.html)

drfeelgood17
December 18th, 2005, 05:11 PM
@ Olineil - great article but the images aren't showing up....

Ok now they are! :)

olineil
December 18th, 2005, 05:18 PM
Byaheng Bicol

Sinulat ko to para sa Viaje artik ko sa Enterworks Ink newsletter, post ko na rin:

Armed with our backpacks, a Lonely Planet guidebook, and several articles we got from the internet, I, with my usual travel buddies - Chel, Beng and Cath (an ex-Enterworks, see Don's article) boarded the 10-hour bus ride to Legaspi, Albay. It's a first for us to see the Bicol Region - land of the perfect coned Mayon Volcano, Bicol Express, the Butandings and waves perfect to try out Surfing!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/mayon2a.jpg

Day 1
While still on the bus, Legaspi welcomed us by a breathtaking sight - Mayon Volcano on a very clear morning. Mayon is derived from the bicolano word "magayon" meaning beautiful and it sure was. Lunch was at Waway's, a popular among locals and tourists which serves authentic bicolano cuisine. We had our first taste of the original Bicol Express and boy was it hot! (Bicol Express is a mixture of chili pepper, with chunks of meat and young coconut milk) Daraga church was our first stop, a black 18th century baroque-style church built out of volcanic rocks. It has an excellent view of Mt. Mayon if only the clouds didnt cover the upper half of it! We then proceeded to the Cagsawa Ruins, the remains of the village of Cagsawa, over 1000 people who took refuge in the church during the 1814 eruption are said to have been buried alive there. To our frustration, thick clouds covered the entire volcano - we learned from the locals that we can only get a clear view of Mayon on early mornings. The ruins was very interesting though and the stores surrounding it.

Day 2
We arrived very early on Tabaco City pier to catch the morning boat ride to Catanduanes, too early in fact because we found out that the boat leaves after lunch. Nothing left to do but wait and with so much time in our hands, we explored the city surrounding the pier. We started off by hearing the Sunday mass which was uttered entirely in bicolano. We checked out the market and discovered the creamiest and the bestest halo-halo in the land. It was topped with grated cheese instead of the usual ice cream. It takes 3 1/2 grueling hours to reach Catanduanes but to our delight, a group of friendly flipping dolphins followed our boat for some time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/board.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/surfers2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/surfers.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/rocks1.jpg

Day 3
Catanduanes is known as the "Land of the Howling Winds", the closest in Luzon to the Pacific Ocean therefore making it typhoon-prone. With the exception of the occasional surfer, it is an island usually bypassed by Bicol tourists. We headed to Puraran beach known to surfers as the Majestics and found it deserted. Irene, daughter of the Elena's majestic resort, said this was because November was off-season for surfing. She still gave us surfing lessons. We learned how to balance and paddle, paddle, paddle. After sometime when our arms and chests were beginning to get sore, we abandoned the boards and explored the beach. The shore was peppered with natural rock formations and limestone cliffs and the crystal clear blue waters was ideal for snorkeling. We even met some locals who were catching fish using spears. That evening, we made a bonfire and passed around gin pomelo while roasting marshmallows and star gazing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/bonfire1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/falls.jpg

Day 4
Rented a tricycle to take us to Nahulugan Falls, we hiked up a trail surrounded by very lush and unspoiled vegetation and beyond it was the hidden waterfalls. We dived on its freezing water and later on picnicked near one of its small lagoon. It started to rain so we decided to move out, walking in the rain felt good until we heard Chel screaming. Something got into her eye and it turned out to be a limatik or leech, it took a while to calm her down so we can remove the little bloodsucker. We stopped at the nearby hospital just to make sure her eye didn’t get infected, Locals said limatik abound the area especially after it rains. We were relieved that Chel was still game after that incident, we hiked a few hills to get a 360-degree view of the Pacific Ocean, Puraran and the rest of the Catanduanes. Gluttons for punishment that we are, we gave surfing one last try. Weather news said a super typhoon was about to enter the country so waves were HUGE but we found the waves still too choppy for surfing. Defeated, and tired of trying not to smash into rocks - we just chilled out on the beach.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/pacific1.jpg

Day 5
While having breakfast and waiting for the ferry to take us back to Legaspi, wanderlust struck us. We were toying with the idea of extending the trip and staying for 2 more days in Sorsogon. We wanted to swim with the butanding or whale sharks - the world's largest fish which can grow up to about 50 feet. They gather in Donsol, Sorsogon during summer but it is said they appear as early as November. Running short on cash and our “dedication” to our jobs made us decide to buy the bus tickets back to Manila.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/mayon1a.jpg

Looking back,
We weren’t able to get a picture-perfect shot of Mayon because of the clouds, and we technically weren’t able to surf because waves were fickle. We even had plans of climbing a portion of Mayon but time wasn’t on our side. These unrealized plans made us respect and accept that nature is not a one big show and we are thankful to have seen and experienced as much as we had. Aside from that were the warm and friendly bicolanos, who not only let us taste their hot fiery food but their culture as well.

tigidig14
December 18th, 2005, 07:18 PM
^^ Mount Fuji of Japan looks nothing compared to the perfect cone shape of the majestic Mayon Volcano.

its look perfect but it isnt perfect anymore

Matteo
December 18th, 2005, 11:01 PM
Very nice opener. good job oli

olineil, whats that red and beige building sa polaroids mo? bottom part, one thats being cvovered by an aerial shot?

Matteo
December 18th, 2005, 11:49 PM
since travel essays are being posted, try this one http://www.philippineholidays.com.au/All_Articles/red_hot_chilli.htm
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/bicol_chilli_0001_Picture1.jpg

drfeelgood17
December 19th, 2005, 12:04 AM
Hey Matt! Great link

Matteo
December 19th, 2005, 12:11 AM
thanks doc

how u doin

drfeelgood17
December 19th, 2005, 12:15 AM
thanks doc

how u doin

Just having a relaxing evening ...and trying to post some more pix - I hate the way Photobucket shrinks them.

Matteo
December 19th, 2005, 12:19 AM
cool. cant wait to see what photos you got to post.
you live by yourself?

KulasKusgan
December 19th, 2005, 12:28 AM
good morning mga uragon... congrats on your 3rd set.

olineil
December 19th, 2005, 01:00 AM
Very nice opener. good job oli

olineil, whats that red and beige building sa polaroids mo? bottom part, one thats being cvovered by an aerial shot?

Thats a Naga City Building. :)

olineil
December 19th, 2005, 01:04 AM
its look perfect but it isnt perfect anymore

Mayon Never claimed to be perfect. "Most perfect" yep... :)

olineil
December 19th, 2005, 01:05 AM
good morning mga uragon... congrats on your 3rd set.

Ois! Marhay na aga man sa imo padi...(Magandang umaga din sayo pare). Tenk u!

Matteo
December 19th, 2005, 01:06 AM
good morning mga uragon... congrats on your 3rd set.
thanks sleep

drfeelgood17
December 19th, 2005, 01:11 AM
Mayon Never claimed to be perfect. "Most perfect" yep... :)

And it's probably the closest to "perfect" we'll ever get in terms of volcanic cones. Check out this site for some interesting info on Mayon's unusual shape:

http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/tpgallery.cfm?category=Stratovolcanoes

I hope the link works :)

Matteo
December 19th, 2005, 01:19 AM
^ it works

tigidig14
December 19th, 2005, 01:27 AM
Mayon Never claimed to be perfect. "Most perfect" yep... :)

trying to correct someone english wont cut it bob, there's no such thing as most perfect, only perfect :baeh3:

anyway, im not trying to bash the volcano, its a proud of the philippines and astonishgly saying it, it looks better than before ;)

drfeelgood17
December 19th, 2005, 01:36 AM
This article dates from Mayon's 2000 eruption, but it shows how major eruptions have the potential to alter world-wide weather:

New London Day, Sunday 3/5/00

Volcano may have impact on weather world-wide

By SETH BORONSTEIN

Knight Ridder Newspapers

Washington -- Atmospheric scientists around the globe are watching Mount Mayon erupt in the Philippines, because the volcano's plume has the potential to moderate weather worldwide.

If its eruptions intensify, experts say, the following winter would be warmer in much of the United States and the next two or three summers would be cooler. Historically, extreme climatic changes brought about by volcanoes have caused snow in New England in July and a dreary Swiss summer that inspired the creator of "Frankenstein."

Eruptions big enough to affect the climate significantly happen about once a decade. They spew millions of tons of sulfur dioxide into the upper atmosphere, which begins 10 miles above the Earth. The sulfur dioxide changes into sulfate aerosols, which are liquid particles that reflect sunlight and keep some of the warmth from reaching Earth's surface, experts say.

It's enough to put on hold but not reverse--the effects of global warming said Georgiy Stenchikov, a Rutgers University environmental sciences professor.

Eruptions also produce beautiful sunsets when aerosol particles refract the sunlight in brilliant hues.

Mount Mayon's eruptions aren't that powerful yet. But the potential and the probabilities are strong enough that scientists should be talking about it, Stenchikov said.

"Mount Mayon is a very rest less volcano, and it's (erupted) very regularly," said Stephen Self professor of volcanology at the University of Hawaii. "It's capable of having a fairly sizable eruption.

'There's plenty of magma and it could be coming out (still). This type of activity is very stop-start."

Has happened before

Mayon erupted with enough power to alter the climate in 1814 and again in 1897, according to Bob Tilling, a U.S. Geological survey volcanologist. Often, the biggest eruptions are the later ones. in 1991, Tilling noted, the Philippines' Mount Pinatubo first erupted on April l. Its major eruption--the one that last altered our weather--came on June 15. It's been almost nine years and the atmosphere only now is nearly empty of sun-blocking sulfite aerosols.

"We're at possibly the lowest aerosol levels in the stratosphere that we've seen." said NASA senior research scientist Larry Thomason. "It's the cleanest in the last 25 years." Mount Pinatubo had spewed 18 million to 30 million tons of sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, experts said.

"It was so dense in the stratosphere we couldn't see through it all the time." Thomason said. Temperatures dropped about half a degree around the world. Due to varying thickness of aerosol levels it was even cooler and damper on the U.S. East coast. The effects lasted about three years. The biggest eruption measured, of the Indonesian volcano Tambora of 1815, produced "the year without a summer." That caused New England's summer snow and prompted morose writer Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley to create the classic, character Frankenstein.

drfeelgood17
December 19th, 2005, 01:41 AM
OK guys, here we go.....

Mayon vs Fuji :)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayon3.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/fuji.jpg

olineil
December 19th, 2005, 02:08 AM
trying to correct someone english wont cut it bob, there's no such thing as most perfect, only perfect :baeh3:

anyway, im not trying to bash the volcano, its a proud of the philippines and astonishgly saying it, it looks better than before ;)

Hehehe...im not correcting u buddy. Im just pointing out that even experts never claimed mayon to be "perfect cone shaped". But they always quote it...to put it in other english term..."Near Perfect"

slerz
December 19th, 2005, 03:10 AM
oh! Mayon is unbeatable...

slerz
December 19th, 2005, 03:11 AM
trying to correct someone english wont cut it bob, there's no such thing as most perfect, only perfect :baeh3:

anyway, im not trying to bash the volcano, its a proud of the philippines and astonishgly saying it, it looks better than before ;)

most and perfect are superlatives? so redundant? right?
How bout almost perfect? :okay:

olineil
December 19th, 2005, 03:30 AM
Repost...coz the pictures didnt come out the first time...

Byaheng Bicol

Sinulat ko to para sa Viaje artik ko sa Enterworks Ink newsletter, post ko na rin:

Armed with our backpacks, a Lonely Planet guidebook, and several articles we got from the internet, I, with my usual travel buddies - Chel, Beng and Cath (an ex-Enterworks, see Don's article) boarded the 10-hour bus ride to Legaspi, Albay. It's a first for us to see the Bicol Region - land of the perfect coned Mayon Volcano, Bicol Express, the Butandings and waves perfect to try out Surfing!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/mayon2a.jpg

Day 1
While still on the bus, Legaspi welcomed us by a breathtaking sight - Mayon Volcano on a very clear morning. Mayon is derived from the bicolano word "magayon" meaning beautiful and it sure was. Lunch was at Waway's, a popular among locals and tourists which serves authentic bicolano cuisine. We had our first taste of the original Bicol Express and boy was it hot! (Bicol Express is a mixture of chili pepper, with chunks of meat and young coconut milk) Daraga church was our first stop, a black 18th century baroque-style church built out of volcanic rocks. It has an excellent view of Mt. Mayon if only the clouds didnt cover the upper half of it! We then proceeded to the Cagsawa Ruins, the remains of the village of Cagsawa, over 1000 people who took refuge in the church during the 1814 eruption are said to have been buried alive there. To our frustration, thick clouds covered the entire volcano - we learned from the locals that we can only get a clear view of Mayon on early mornings. The ruins was very interesting though and the stores surrounding it.

Day 2
We arrived very early on Tabaco City pier to catch the morning boat ride to Catanduanes, too early in fact because we found out that the boat leaves after lunch. Nothing left to do but wait and with so much time in our hands, we explored the city surrounding the pier. We started off by hearing the Sunday mass which was uttered entirely in bicolano. We checked out the market and discovered the creamiest and the bestest halo-halo in the land. It was topped with grated cheese instead of the usual ice cream. It takes 3 1/2 grueling hours to reach Catanduanes but to our delight, a group of friendly flipping dolphins followed our boat for some time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/board.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/surfers2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/surfers.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/rocks1.jpg

Day 3
Catanduanes is known as the "Land of the Howling Winds", the closest in Luzon to the Pacific Ocean therefore making it typhoon-prone. With the exception of the occasional surfer, it is an island usually bypassed by Bicol tourists. We headed to Puraran beach known to surfers as the Majestics and found it deserted. Irene, daughter of the Elena's majestic resort, said this was because November was off-season for surfing. She still gave us surfing lessons. We learned how to balance and paddle, paddle, paddle. After sometime when our arms and chests were beginning to get sore, we abandoned the boards and explored the beach. The shore was peppered with natural rock formations and limestone cliffs and the crystal clear blue waters was ideal for snorkeling. We even met some locals who were catching fish using spears. That evening, we made a bonfire and passed around gin pomelo while roasting marshmallows and star gazing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/bonfire1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/falls.jpg

Day 4
Rented a tricycle to take us to Nahulugan Falls, we hiked up a trail surrounded by very lush and unspoiled vegetation and beyond it was the hidden waterfalls. We dived on its freezing water and later on picnicked near one of its small lagoon. It started to rain so we decided to move out, walking in the rain felt good until we heard Chel screaming. Something got into her eye and it turned out to be a limatik or leech, it took a while to calm her down so we can remove the little bloodsucker. We stopped at the nearby hospital just to make sure her eye didn’t get infected, Locals said limatik abound the area especially after it rains. We were relieved that Chel was still game after that incident, we hiked a few hills to get a 360-degree view of the Pacific Ocean, Puraran and the rest of the Catanduanes. Gluttons for punishment that we are, we gave surfing one last try. Weather news said a super typhoon was about to enter the country so waves were HUGE but we found the waves still too choppy for surfing. Defeated, and tired of trying not to smash into rocks - we just chilled out on the beach.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/pacific1.jpg

Day 5
While having breakfast and waiting for the ferry to take us back to Legaspi, wanderlust struck us. We were toying with the idea of extending the trip and staying for 2 more days in Sorsogon. We wanted to swim with the butanding or whale sharks - the world's largest fish which can grow up to about 50 feet. They gather in Donsol, Sorsogon during summer but it is said they appear as early as November. Running short on cash and our “dedication” to our jobs made us decide to buy the bus tickets back to Manila.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/mayon1a.jpg

Looking back,
We weren’t able to get a picture-perfect shot of Mayon because of the clouds, and we technically weren’t able to surf because waves were fickle. We even had plans of climbing a portion of Mayon but time wasn’t on our side. These unrealized plans made us respect and accept that nature is not a one big show and we are thankful to have seen and experienced as much as we had. Aside from that were the warm and friendly bicolanos, who not only let us taste their hot fiery food but their culture as well.

olineil
December 19th, 2005, 04:04 AM
I think this is a spanish Era Photo...where Legazpi City Airport is now...See Lignon Hill
http://www.postcardman.net/44628.jpg

Sinjin P.
December 19th, 2005, 04:07 AM
wow! Great find there @olineil! ;)

slerz
December 19th, 2005, 04:09 AM
I think this is a spanish Era Photo...where Legazpi City Airport is now...See Lignon Hill
http://www.postcardman.net/44628.jpg

oh, Mayon long ago is not that magayon compared to the present.

Sinjin P.
December 19th, 2005, 04:11 AM
What's magayon? :?

olineil
December 19th, 2005, 04:18 AM
oh, Mayon long ago is not that magayon compared to the present.

yup exactly what I meant in my previous post. Mayon Destroys herself...but heals herself after the damaage she has done.

olineil
December 19th, 2005, 04:19 AM
What's magayon? :?

Hehehe...Magayon means Maganda...guapa in cebuano. Cheers...

Mayon was actually derived from the word Magayon...

slerz
December 19th, 2005, 04:44 AM
yup exactly what I meant in my previous post. Mayon Destroys herself...but heals herself after the damaage she has done.

Yup, I really like Mayon coz I've encountered her beauty closely when we went to Daraga Albay with my teacher from Daraga last 1994 and we're lucky at that time coz she showed us her beautiful glows of lava that is very visible during dusk and I remembered nawara an smagol ko kay nalubong san lapok...hehe... Mayon is also very visible from mainland Masbate.

olineil
December 19th, 2005, 05:17 AM
Yup, I really like Mayon coz I've encountered her beauty closely when we went to Daraga Albay with my teacher from Daraga last 1994 and we're lucky at that time coz she showed us her beautiful glows of lava that is very visible during dusk and I remembered nawara an smagol ko kay nalubong san lapok...hehe... Mayon is also very visible from mainland Masbate.

Really, u had teacher who hailed from daraga? Cool!

Jefferyi
December 19th, 2005, 07:16 AM
Im voting for Mayon.

olineil
December 19th, 2005, 07:33 AM
OK guys, here we go.....

Mayon vs Fuji :)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayon3.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/fuji.jpg

Not a bias vote.
Mt Fuji's beauty is a far cry from Mayons. Though I like the snow caps of Mt fuji.

slerz
December 19th, 2005, 08:31 AM
Yup, no doubt that Mt. Fuji is the most beautiful volcano next to Mayon...

Sinjin P.
December 19th, 2005, 08:38 AM
Mt. Mayon, IMO, is the Mt. Fuji without the snow and the lumps. :)
EDIT:
I didn't say the Mt. Fuji is more beautiful. ;)

manileño
December 19th, 2005, 08:44 AM
fuji is ugly

sista
December 19th, 2005, 09:01 AM
Mt Mayon is more charismatic because some people know that she's there and they're drawn to her, but they just can't see her :)

sugbuanon
December 19th, 2005, 01:25 PM
hi guys.. just want to share some of my favorite pics of mayon volcano


http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/8401/10961gj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/3697/mayon0135he.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/5391/mayonvolcanoeruptionbynight3th.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7293/mayon0178za.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/8499/mayonphotoimage31pb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 12:08 AM
Thanx for your pics, Mr Cebu - the first one is a NASA pic, if I'm not mistaken?

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 12:37 AM
MAYON VOLCANO STAMPS

The cover illustrated below is a first day of issue (April 1st, 1943) during the "transition period" from being a Commonwealth member of the United States to the Republic of the Philippines in 1946. The Japanese censor markings reflect the Japanese occupation of the islands begining December 8th 1941. The cachet illustrates both Mayon and Fuji.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayonst1.jpg

The same cachet can be seen as the next stamps issued in 1943

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayonst2.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayonst3.jpg

The next pair was issued in 1947 (after the liberation and indepence)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayonst4.jpg

The next stamp shows special delivery messenger with Mayon in background


Stamp courtesy of Mitchell Ward.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayonst5.jpg
The next stamps (courtesy of Mark Yorty & Lisa Heiman) were issued in 1955 to celebrate the Rotary Club

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayonst7.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayonst8.jpg

The next stamps, issued in 1967 depict a nativity scene with Mayon in background


(courtesy of Lisa Heiman)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayonst9.jpg

The next stamp, issued February 1971. appears to have Mayon in background

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayon10.jpg

The next stamp celebrates co-operation between the Philippines and Switzerland


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayonst11.jpg

sugbuanon
December 20th, 2005, 12:47 AM
Thanx for your pics, Mr Cebu - the first one is a NASA pic, if I'm not mistaken?

you are always welcome Mr. Bicol.. hahaha or what about Mr. SSC :D


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayonst9.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/drfeelgood17/mayon10.jpg

i have these two stamps in my collection.. :)

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 12:51 AM
^^ Both titles would be great! :)
So you have these stamps...cool...they must be quite valuable now!

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 12:55 AM
Mt. Mayon, IMO, is the Mt. Fuji without the snow and the lumps. :)
EDIT:
I didn't say the Mt. Fuji is more beautiful. ;)

I agree that the only reason why Fiji is beautiful is because of its snow cap. Otherwise, it would just be like a giant anthill, lumps and all, totally unglamourous! :)

Fiji's fame is also due to its depiction in Japanese painting over the centuries and its iconic status for Japan.

Animo
December 20th, 2005, 01:05 AM
I agree that the only reason why Fiji is beautiful is because of its snow cap. Otherwise, it would just be like a giant anthill, lumps and all, totally unglamourous! :)

Fiji's fame is also due to its depiction in Japanese painting over the centuries and its iconic status for Japan.

Is Mt. Fuji is a dormant or extinct volcano? My dad climb Mt. Fuji in the 90's and he took pictures of the inside and it was a small island (with plants growing) and water surrounding it. You are right that it looks so bland without the snow cap, but it also looks great when they have it as a background with those skyscraper buildings (photo).

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 01:08 AM
^^Dormant....according to the volcano website I saw, the last eruption was in 1707 (very violent, Tokyo, 70km away, was badly damaged).

sugbuanon
December 20th, 2005, 01:46 AM
^^ Both titles would be great! :)
So you have these stamps...cool...they must be quite valuable now!

i collect almost anything.. stamps, coins, paper bills, key chains, ballpens, lighters even rocks.. hehehe :)

sista
December 20th, 2005, 03:19 AM
thanks for posting those stamps sugbuanon :) they showed the different aspects of beauty of Mt. Mayon :)

Sinjin P.
December 20th, 2005, 03:21 AM
@Sugbuanon: Who took those pics on Mayon's eruption?

sugbuanon
December 20th, 2005, 03:35 AM
@sista thank drfeelgood17 for those stamps :D

@sinjin i just found some of those pics from a japanese website..

sista
December 20th, 2005, 03:57 AM
^^ meron ka din pinost na stamps eh lol, mas nacapture ng mata ko yun stamps mo...naks! (no pun intended to drfeelgood17) :D

olineil
December 20th, 2005, 04:15 AM
Those Stamps and Coins with Mayon really shows that this Volcano used to be used as an Iconic Representation of our country. What happened to this Glory days of Mayon...Suddenly it dwindeled in popularity. I hope the Government will reuse Mayon to represent Our Beloved Country once more.

slerz
December 20th, 2005, 06:56 AM
yup, the Philippines is beautiful, strong and violent... if ever the Philippines gets angry, just seek huge rocks to hide...:)

tigidig14
December 20th, 2005, 07:38 AM
^e pano kung bumagsak yung huge rock to hide sa katawan mo, i prefer you go to the highest point

slerz
December 20th, 2005, 08:28 AM
eh, patay sila, sila naman ang nagtatago, di naman ang Pilipinas...:D

sugbuanon
December 20th, 2005, 09:34 AM
^e pano kung bumagsak yung huge rock to hide sa katawan mo, i prefer you go to the highest point

magcitizen patrol nlng like what dakoykoy did.. go to ABS-CBN :D :D :D

Matteo
December 20th, 2005, 09:44 AM
ano/sinu ba yang dakoykoy?
lagi kong naririnig yan

sugbuanon
December 20th, 2005, 10:08 AM
hehe tanungin mo si tigs matteo.. yan ang idol niya :D

tigidig14
December 20th, 2005, 10:26 AM
matt pag nahuli ka ng mga alagad ni dakoykoy bibigyan ka ng mga lecture lalong lalo na sa jaywalking. dito sya dalubhasa, tapos yung mga tanod bibigayan ka ng lecture pag nahuli ka ulit :D

slerz
December 20th, 2005, 11:43 AM
Haay, si Dakoykoy ang kaibigan ni tigs sikat nanaman ngayon...

AY, may grinch pala dito, mag ingat kayo sa mga regalo nyo baka kunin ni Grinch. delicado pala ang avatar ko baka pagdiskitahan ni mister grinch... :runaway: kaibigan siya ni dakoykoy:D

Matteo
December 20th, 2005, 05:02 PM
oh man. Tigi. you the grinch? sigh....

olineil
December 20th, 2005, 05:13 PM
Hey Guys just dropping by before I retire to bed... :sleepy: :sleepy: Night...night

Matteo
December 20th, 2005, 05:29 PM
a dude. but i just got here! heheh j/k nite nite

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 05:31 PM
ano/sinu ba yang dakoykoy?
lagi kong naririnig yan

That what I was asking a while back....sino ba yan??

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 05:32 PM
a dude. but i just got here! heheh j/k nite nite

Ok I'm here now Matt so you won't be bored LOL

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 05:36 PM
Those Stamps and Coins with Mayon really shows that this Volcano used to be used as an Iconic Representation of our country. What happened to this Glory days of Mayon...Suddenly it dwindeled in popularity. I hope the Government will reuse Mayon to represent Our Beloved Country once more.

Maybe the Philippine govt is too busy promoting other attractions like the Banaue Rice Terraces - which is fine but rice terraces aren't unique to the RP...Indonesia, China, Thailand all have their versions of rice terraces. Mayon however is truly unique! :)

Matteo
December 20th, 2005, 05:51 PM
Ok I'm here now Matt so you won't be bored LOL
thats what im talking about ! hehehe
:)

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 05:54 PM
thats what im talking about ! hehehe
:)
Hey Matt-chew - any plans for Christmas?

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 05:57 PM
Check out this blog guys, it's about a chick from NYC who's gonna be staying in Donsol, Sorsogon for 2 years (poor thing) :D

http://juliainthephilippines.blogspot.com/

Matteo
December 20th, 2005, 06:00 PM
Hey Matt-chew - any plans for Christmas?
now you wanna chew me out? haay doc, i thought you wiked me... :ohno: heheh

for christmas, maybe just stay here, with some friends, family.
none really special... lonely... sigh...
how about you

drfeelgood17
December 20th, 2005, 06:59 PM
^^pretty much the same, plus lots of eating & drinking! :)

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 12:00 AM
Huh??!! Can anyone explain why my number of posts has dropped back to 166?? I was around 350....is this some sort of weird penalty? :)
Guys. I'm confused....

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 12:04 AM
Huh??!! Can anyone explain why my number of posts has dropped back to 166?? I was around 350....is this some sort of weird penalty? :)
Guys. I'm confused....
ask Tigi.
happened to him as well.
he had this big announcement post with balloons and stuff saying that its his 2000th post
then it dropped, less 4 posts i think teehehehehe

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 12:06 AM
:cry: :cry: ^^that's so unfair!
oops looks like it happened to you too - you're down to 63!
Olineil doesn't seem affected tho ....hmmm... :)

slerz
December 21st, 2005, 12:07 AM
Huh??!! Can anyone explain why my number of posts has dropped back to 166?? I was around 350....is this some sort of weird penalty? :)
Guys. I'm confused....

mine too but it doesn't count to me:)
coz some of the threads that are already full was being kept into the archive page coz your posts in the archive threads are not counted to your number of posts and if you have posts in that thread that are already being archived it will be deducted to your current number of posts.

So kng gsto nyo na hindi mabawasan ang inyong posts, better refrain from posting:D

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 12:10 AM
Oh i see...thanx for the info Slerz!
So it's in our interests to actually create new threads! Ganon pla!
still unfair...but nevermind! :)

tigidig14
December 21st, 2005, 12:23 AM
ask Tigi.
happened to him as well.
he had this big announcement post with balloons and stuff saying that its his 2000th post
then it dropped, less 4 posts i think teehehehehe

true, i had to edit that post, waste of my typing space, hehehe.

ey any of you have ridden those PNR train, i know it goes all the way to albay, how much you guys think it costs. i wanna try for a kick when i go home

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 12:27 AM
never tried. would love to
dont forget to take pictures.

i think doc posted a photo nung mga pamasahe prices before

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 12:31 AM
^^personally. I've never ridden the PNR - but some of my folks have - along time ago. I heard that it takes much longer than the bus (up to 14hours, instead of 10) because of the numerous stops. Also, when you pass through the shanties in Manila, they sometimes throw stones at the train, so if you want an adventurous ride, you got one! Mind you the aircon ones with sleeping decks are supposed to be comfortable and nice.

At least you can lie back, unlike in the buses.

tigidig14
December 21st, 2005, 12:45 AM
^they have those sleeping decks too, wow. yeah i heard not only rocks that they throw but also trash. dad told me when he used to work in Makati back in the 80s

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 05:09 AM
^^Yup it's called travelling at your peril - but hey that was back in the 80s, maybe things have improved somewhat since then - let's hope so!

olineil
December 21st, 2005, 02:40 PM
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Animo
December 21st, 2005, 05:50 PM
SEVERAL HISTORICAL LANDMARKS have been destroyed in some parts of the country to give way for commercial, residential and infrastructure projects, but in Albay, people are trying to restore those that are threatened or abandoned in their communities.

Concerned architects are collaborating to identify the landmarks in Albay, conduct research on them, retrieve old photos, and take photos of their present conditions.

The sites include the Tabaco Cimborio in Tabaco City; centuries-old churches in Sto. Domingo, Bacacay, Daraga, Camalig, Oas and Ligao towns; the Colegio de San Buenaventura ruins in Guinobatan; Villa Encantada in Malinao; Cagsawa Ruins in Daraga; Budiao in Daraga; Sinimbahan in Tiwi; the Spanish bridges in the third district of the province; the burial ground of "Sarung Banggi" composer Potenciano Gregorio; the Mayon resthouse; and the mojones along national and provincial roads.

Old photos of these landmarks have been enlarged and displayed in museums, schools and malls to create awareness and pride among Bicolanos.

The project aims to become a model and reference for other provinces in the region and elsewhere. Its productions will serve as a guide for architects and developers in reconstructing the landmarks and preserving their original structural designs.

Started early this year and expected to be completed in May next year, the project is being undertaken in collaboration with the Manila-based Instituto de Cervantes of Spain, National Commission for Culture and the Arts, Heritage Conservation Society, Diocese of Legazpi, the provincial government and other concerned agencies.

The United Architects of the Philippines chapter in Legazpi and the Aquinas University College of Architecture and Fine Arts (Cafa) are spearheading the initiative. More than the retrieval and public display of old photos and the usual publication of historical writings, they seek to remind public and private institutions in the region of historical and cultural values in developing commercial establishments.

Reverse process

Eleven of the 16 identified heritage sites have already been documented. Information about them have been updated, while their architectural plans and sample outputs have been stored as computer-aided designs.

Architect Rino Fernandez, Cafa dean, said the project is being done in reverse, beginning with the existing conditions of the buildings -- ruined, neglected, damaged, threatened or remarkably preserved-and ending with their plans and drawings.

It entails exhaustive field research and surveys of the sites so that accurate architectural plans that best represent the structures can be drawn.

The architects and students have already come up with at least 68 old photos and descriptions of history and technical constructions. They intend to measure and determine changes or damages in certain Spanish-era churches and other edifices.

Avoiding ignorance

National agencies responsible for preserving and restoring heritage sites in the country have lauded the project as vital in addressing problems of ignorance and neglect of the sites among government officials and the public.
They found the undertaking important for urban development planners so that they could avoid further damage or destruction of the historical landmarks and impart meaning to lessons of history and its continuity.

Anna "Bambi" Harper, an Inquirer columnist, said in a message during the first provincial conference and presentation of plans for architectural heritage projects on Aug. 29 that the endeavor focused not only on restoring old churches that are still being used, ancestral houses, old bridges, garrisons, mojones, cemeteries and numerous ruins in Albay, but also on the architectural drawings, which could bring up new pieces of information unearthed through historical and archival research.

Former tourism secretary Gemma Cruz-Araneta, now president of the Heritage Conservation Society, noted that while there are many laws on preserving and restoring cultural and historical sites, these are hardly implemented or simply ignored.

"Historical sensitivity requires more than having so many laws; it must adhere to the very indispensable truth about our history, that is, continuity through unity and cooperation, by which we should be blessed for that's what we're doing now," Araneta said.

Richard Bautista of the NCCA has pledged more technical support to raise public awareness about the use of the architectural plans through historical books or writings, in schools, government and private institutions, hotels, local museums, tourism offices and churches.

Spanish support

Javier Galvan, Spanish director of the Instituto de Cervantes, said the Spanish government was supporting the project.

"It is such a breakthrough that the local government of Albay has now shown more than just an interest in protecting and restoring landmarks here. They are in fact closely coordinating with the advocate-architects in making plans for urban development or future constructions," he said.

The institute donated P400,000 to the AUL-Cafa for further research and fellowships. It vowed to continuously support the advocacy program.

The Spanish government recognizes Legazpi as one of two cities or places in the country (the other being Legazpi Village in Makati City) named after the Spanish conquistador Miguel Lopez de Legazpi.

http://www.inq7.net/globalnation/sec_phe/2005/nov/16-01.htm

Jefferyi
December 21st, 2005, 05:56 PM
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Wow nice find olineil. This is exactly how I want to visit Visit Mayon--up close and roughing it ala Globe Trekker. :applause:

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 08:24 PM
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/rv_estardo/daraga_church.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/rv_estardo/daraga_church1.jpg

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 08:28 PM
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drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 08:37 PM
^^ Muchisimas gracias, Animo! :applause: :applause:
Those are wonderful pix - I like the black & white one of Daraga church and the clear and clean beaches. Looks like they also cleaned-up the Legazpi wharf - I wish they would turn it into an international port (I don't understand why Tabaco has one and not Legazpi...)

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 08:40 PM
.^^On second thoughts....I don't think the first pic is Legazpi Port at all...there's no sleeping Lion and there are no buildings!! Looks like another town...any ideas Matt or Olineil??

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 08:42 PM
.^^On second thoughts....I don't think the first pic is Legazpi Port at all...there's no sleeping Lion and there are no buildings!! Looks like another town...any ideas Matt or Olineil??

Its Matnog, Sorsogon :)

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 08:46 PM
Its Matnog, Sorsogon :)

Ok thanx for clarifying that, Animo :)
no wonder the water looks so clean hahaha

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 08:57 PM
oi, what beach was that?

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 09:02 PM
oi, what beach was that?

Ericsson Beach, Palawig, San Andres, Catanduanes.

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 09:02 PM
^^ Here comes Matt-chew!
whatever it is it's a wonderful beach - let's ask Animo

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 09:03 PM
Ericsson Beach, Palawig, San Andres, Catanduanes.

I thought so...Catanduanes has got some of the best beaches in Bicol...shame it's not so accessible.

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 09:06 PM
what up doc

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 09:10 PM
^^I'm good thanx Matt , just getting ready for my daily workout, - and yourself? bored at work? busy??

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 09:14 PM
^^ I feel so bored without school work that needed to be done. :tongue3:

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 09:20 PM
^^ you sound like a workaholic Animo - you got so much energy & enthusiasm! :)

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 09:23 PM
^^ you sound like a workaholic Animo - you got so much energy & enthusiasm! :)

^^ Hehe, I like to relax but I always feel so lazy when you got nothing to do. Nakakapagod na kasi matulog. :lol:

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 09:26 PM
skyscraper crapped out on me again.
it sucks.

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 09:30 PM
skyscraper crapped out on me again.
it sucks.

Really? It must be your connection. Its all good on mines. :)

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 09:31 PM
Mine slowed down a bit about 10 mins ago...seems to back to normal now.

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 09:32 PM
I thought so...Catanduanes has got some of the best beaches in Bicol...shame it's not so accessible.
we should go then

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 09:33 PM
hey doc, that was a nice photo of that dubai hotel you postedin the cebu thread.
my uncle stayed in one of the suites. i was amazing. it had winding stairways and all inside the suite.

we should go

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 09:34 PM
we should go then

yup, defo....when? :)

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 09:35 PM
we should go

Hoy, sige ka lang "we should go" kelan naman iyon "libre ko kayo"!!! :D

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 09:37 PM
Hoy, sige ka lang "we should go" kelan naman iyon "libre ko kayo"!!! :D
really??? kewl!! :cheers:
my prayers for Paypal donations came true!!

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 09:39 PM
really??? kewl!! :cheers:
my prayers for Paypal donations came true!!

Si kuya Matt po! (galang effect) :wink2: hindi ako! :happy:

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 09:43 PM
lesh go

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 09:46 PM
Si kuya Matt po! (galang effect) :wink2: hindi ako! :happy:
am i older than you finding animo? hehehehe

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 09:48 PM
am i older than you finding animo? hehehehe

Ewan maybe mentally hindi! :jk: Yes, dude your older. :D

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 09:51 PM
really? how old are you man

Animo
December 21st, 2005, 09:59 PM
really? how old are you man

Talk to you on private message.

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 10:00 PM
I thought we told each others true ages a while back....is this still a secret?

manileño
December 21st, 2005, 10:02 PM
I thought we told each others true ages a while back....is this still a secret?

hahaha. kuya esteban.

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 10:03 PM
^ doc, your name's Steve?

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 10:04 PM
Talk to you on private message.
reply sent

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 10:04 PM
it is indeed Matt-yo

manileño
December 21st, 2005, 10:06 PM
btw kuya, you remind me of someone. does your last name start with S?

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 10:06 PM
How come I don't get PMs? LOL....not popular enough I guess...sigh

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 10:07 PM
btw kuya, you remind me of someone. does your last name start with S?

nope....maybe just a coincidence - who's this guy?

manileño
December 21st, 2005, 10:11 PM
you look like my org mate who coincidentally also spent a few years in Bicol. last name's santayana.

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 10:13 PM
santayana doesn't ring a bell....i'm sure he's also charismatic hehehehe
btw what exactly is an "org mate"

manileño
December 21st, 2005, 10:14 PM
like someone from the same organization (club?)

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 10:19 PM
^^Oh ok LOL i thought it meant something more complicated - but is this guy from Bicol too or was just touring there?

manileño
December 21st, 2005, 10:21 PM
he's also a manila boy but he has relatives there. i lost contact with him na, thought he might have migrated to London. hihi

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 10:22 PM
santayana doesn't ring a bell....i'm sure he's also charismatic hehehehe
btw what exactly is an "org mate"
hehe. i thought it sounded sexual

drfeelgood17
December 21st, 2005, 10:27 PM
^^dirty boy...

Matteo
December 21st, 2005, 10:37 PM
hehe.
i use axe hehehe

drfeelgood17
December 22nd, 2005, 12:48 AM
Huh? what? I don't get it...

Matteo
December 22nd, 2005, 01:09 AM
its from that Axe body wash commercial
it says, How Dirty boys get clean

drfeelgood17
December 22nd, 2005, 01:13 AM
:hahaha: ^^

btw, you never did answer my original question

Matteo
December 22nd, 2005, 01:18 AM
which one was that

drfeelgood17
December 22nd, 2005, 01:22 AM
which one was that

What part of Legazpi did you live in?

Matteo
December 22nd, 2005, 01:26 AM
Washington Drive, close to the airport

and thou?

drfeelgood17
December 22nd, 2005, 01:27 AM
^^I see, you're from the Old District hehe - we used to play there as kids - you were 16 when you left, right?

Matteo
December 22nd, 2005, 01:31 AM
si.

porque?

drfeelgood17
December 22nd, 2005, 01:36 AM
por curiosidad...nada mas...hehe

drfeelgood17
December 22nd, 2005, 02:00 AM
simple Bikol words & phrases... for beginners!

This list is comes from another Bicol (Naga) forum - thanks to them:


Sorry, I didn't have time to translate into English.



Mayroon = Igwa
Wala = Mayo (Naga) - Wara is preferred in other parts of Bicol
Marami = Kadakol
Alin = Arin
Kailan = Nuarin
Ilan = Pira
Nasaan = Hain
Saan = Sain
Dapat = Dapat
Pwede = Pwede
Gusto = Gusto
Bakit = Tano, Bakin (Daet)
Sino = Sisay
Kanino = Kaisay
Ano = Ano
Paano = Pa’no
Oo = Iyo
Hindi = Dai
Ngayon = Ngunyan
Sarili = Sadiri
At = At
Upang = Upang
Kung = Kung
Pero = Pero
Alam = Aram
Mismo = Mismo
Akala = Akala
Ayaw = Habo

Ang = An
Mga = Mga
Ng = Ning
Si = Si
Ni = Kan
Sa = Sa
Kay = Kay

Ako = Ako
Ikaw, Ka = Ika, Ka
Siya = Siya
Kayo = Kamo
Tayo = Kita
Kami = Kami
Sila = Sinda

Ko = Ko
Mo = Mo
Niya = Niya
Ninyo = Nindo
Natin = Ta
Namin = Mi
Nila = Ninda

Sa Akin = Sa Kuya
Sa Iyo = Sa Imo
Sa Kanya = Sa Iya
Sa Inyo = Sa Indo
Sa Atin = Sa Tuya
Sa Amin = Sa Muya
Sa Kanila = Sa Inda

Dito = Digdi
Diyan = Diyan
Doon = Duman
Ito = Ini
Iyan = Yan
Iyon = Itu

Nandito = Yaon digdi
Nandiyan = Yaon diyan
Nandoon = Yaon duman

Isa = Saro
Dalawa = Duwa
Tatalo = Tulo
Apat = Apat
Lima = Lima
Anim = Anum
Pito = Pito
Walo =Walo
Siyam = Siyam
Sampu = Sampulo

Malinamnam = Masiram
Mabuti = Marhay
Mabait = Maboot
Maanghang = Maharang
Maganda = Magayon
Makasarili = Maimon
Malungkot = Mamundo, Mapung-aw
Bobo = Pula
Astig = Oragon
Malalim = Hararum
Mababaw = Hababaw
Ilalim = Irarum
Ibabaw = Ibabaw
Matangkad = Halangkaw
Short = Hababa
Buntis = Bados
Malayo = Harayo
Malapit = Harani
Magaspang = Maragkot
Mainit = Malipot
Mabango = Mahamot
Mabaho = Mabata
Malasing = Maburat
Umupo = Tumukaw
Suntok = Bugti

Kumain = Kumakan, Magkakan
Mag-aral = Mag-adal
Pumunta = Dumuman
Umalis = Humali
Makita = Mahiling
Tumawa = Ngumirit
Maghintay = Maghalat
Mag-umpisa = Magpoon
Matulog = Maturog
Lumayo = Rumayo
Lumapit = Rumani
Bumili = Bumakal
Magkano = Gurano
Umambon = Tumagiti

Dagat = Dagat
Magkapatid = Magtugang
Kapatid = Tugang
Isda = Sira
Bahay = Harong
Pagkain = Pagkakan
Lupa = Daga
Umaga = Aga
Araw (Day) = Aldaw
Buwan = Bulan
Loob = Laog
Labas = Luwas
Niyog = Nguog
Pag-ibig = Pagkamoot
Amoy = Parong
Hipon = Pasayan
Aso = Ido
Usapan = Urulay
Anak = Aki
Ilog = Salog
Palengke = Saod
Tae = Udo
Tae = Ugirit
Bulaklak = Burak
Sahig = Salog
Sombrero = Kupya

drfeelgood17
December 22nd, 2005, 02:02 AM
Here's an interesting article by a Bicolano linguist:
MAYO', A Pure Bikol Word?
Mayo, A Pure Bikol Word?

The Chinese already had commercial contact with us 500 years before the Spaniards came.
They came as traders to bring silk, porcelain, pottery, bar-iron, beads, cheap jewelry and many other things of domestic use. They brought back in return raw cotton, resin, abaca, hardwoods, sea-products, rattan, nito, beeswax, pearshells, placer gold, etc. The trade continued until such time many of them decided to stay. Bringing along with them is the knowledge in agriculture, pottery-making, jewelry-making, duck-raising, ship-building and various other occupational practices which the Bikol of old happily adopted.

It is, therefore, not surprising the Bikol language borrowed many words from Chinese; in fact, these words became very common in use nobody now ever suspect they were borrowed.

Of course, we assume the noodles we eat from Chinese restaurants such as lomi, pancit, misua, sotanghon, bihon, loglog are of Chinese cooking and they carry names that are Chinese-sounding.

But Arsenio Manuel, in his book Chinese Elements In Tagalog Language, unearthed more Chinese words in current usage in Tagalog not limited to cookery. He asserts the words bantay (guard), suki (customer), hikaw (earrings), bakya,(wooden sandals), baybay (sand), binibini (an unmarried woman), buwisit (bad luck) and many common words are of Chinese provenance.

The findings of Arsenio Manuel carry a resonance in Bikol. Many of the Chinese loanwords Manuel found in Tagalog could also be found in Bikol. The question whether Bikol borrowed them from Tagalog or directly from Mandarin, Fookien or other Chinese dialects is a matter to be studied. Perhaps this issue can be settled by perusing old Bikol dictionaries printed in the 1600s when Tagalog influence was nil.

Additionally, we also find some Bikol words with suspect Chinese origin which are not in use in Old or modern Tagalog. I say suspect because I glimpse some similarities in base meanings of these words to the mono- or dyssyllabic entries Manuel cited in his work as purely Chinese and which he asserts could not be found in Original Austronesian or Old Indonesian.

This area of study presents a daunting challenge to the scholars who would have the training, the resources and the proclivities to dig deeper for as of now there is no serious research on the matter this writer is aware of.

I would not now tread on this particular area, not having the academic training or the resources to competently attempt such, except to bring to the attention of the readers a very common word in Bikol: “mayo”. This word appears to come from Chinese. It would seem to come from two rootwords “mei” and “you”.

But before we go into that let me state many Chinese words are a combination of two monosyllabic words. This was amply illustrated by Manuel in his book. To cite a few, let me draw from his book, thus:

Baybay, (a reduplication of bai (to cover with earth or sand; bury), seashore, coast.
Bantay, (bang (to hope, expect) – tai (platform, pedestal), watchtower, lookout, watch).
Watch, guard, sentinel.
Lolo (A redupl of lo(old, ancient), old man). Grandfather, any old man
Pisi (mi(cotton) –se (worsted, woolen yarn; thread), yarn, thread; woolen yarn)
String, twine, small cord.

As shown in the examples aforecited, we see a combining of monosyllabic words which, upon combination, results in a new word. This linguistic feature cannot be found in Bikol or perhaps in any other Philippine language.

Why do I assert the Bikol word “mayo” is of Chinese origin?

A Chinese-Bicolano, Ramon Sytangco, mentioned in passing in one article he wrote (or was it a write-up about him?) in a national magazine that “mayo” (Eng. none, there are/is no) is a Bikol word borrowed from Chinese. Unfortunately, I failed to record the article for future reference.

I undertook to verify his contention by doing several things: 1. I consulted Chinese dictionaries 2. I took pains to see if the word can be found in Lisboa’s Vocabulario de la Lengua Bicol 3. I studied the extent of usage of the word in the Bicol region.
What I discovered corroborated his claim.

I initially verified Sytanco’s claim in a popular touristy dictionary where indeed I found the word “meiyou” where “mei” means “have, there is” and “you” means “no, none”. But I lost this little book.

Today I consulted a more hefty Chinese dictionary printed by the Oxford University Press (Concise English-Chinese, Chinese-English Dictionary, ed. 2000; authored by Martin H. Manser). Right on p. 295 I found the entry “none” translated in Chinese as “mei you” and indicated by the corresponding Chinese characters.

In a small pocket dictionary by Zhon Qin, (Chinese For You- Learn to Speak Putonghua, a Hong Kong Man Hai Language Publication reprinted by Merriam & Webster, Inc. here in the Philippines, 1980), we find on page 18 the following entry:

mei you have no; there is no

It is exciting to learn Lisboa has an entry on page 240 of his Vocabulario de la Lengua Bicol which states thus:

MAYO. pp. Esta palabra no se habla sola, sino junta estas particular day; Day mayo, no hay penitus. Day mayong tauo, no hay ninguna persona. Day na mayo, yo no hay
mas, o no quede ya mas.

Fr. Marcos de Lisboa collected his material for the dictionary between 1602 and 1616 when he was assigned as definitor and minister of Naga, and in that period of time also was variously assigned in Oas and Polangui. It took more than one hundred years (Ist. ed. 1754) before his linguistic work saw print. (vide, Blair and Robertson, vol. 35, p. 313).
The Bicol he was recording, therefore, was that current in the period between 1500 to 1602. It is of great puzzlement why he would insist the word “mayo” could only be used exclusively together with the word “dai”.

Today we use the two words interchangeably but not both in a sentence as it is redundant. Is this not an indication the word “mayo” then was just creeping into the language, its use not yet preeminent and its meaning not yet clear and certain? There must be a technical term in linguistics to describe such a speech phenomenum.

Another indication the word “mayo” is not really autochthonous to the bikol soil is its limited use to Camarines Sur and Norte, more particularly in Naga and environs and extending as far as Talisay and Mercedes and up to the Partido towns. If it is used elsewhere, it is due to peripheral influence.

I would believe the word “dai” (di’, is a contracted form) is an older and more authentic Bikol word as it has wider usage throughout Bicol while the word “wara’” (var.: “oda’”) is limited in use in certain areas of Camarines Sur, Albay, Sorsogon and Catanduanes, and Masbate. The word “wara’”is of even older native provenance, being found in many variant forms in many Philippine languages from Maranaw to Kapampangan.

Faced with this quantum of data, I can safely assert “mayo” is a borrowing from Chinese whose entry may be dated at 1600- or thereabouts.

As an aside, it is interesting to ponder if the word “may” (Eng. have, has, there is, there are), which is in use in many Philippine languages, also comes from the same Ch. rootword “mei”. Manuel, strangely enough, is silent on the provenance of this word perhaps because he never suspected its foreign (?) origin.

drfeelgood17
December 22nd, 2005, 02:56 AM
FIRST BIKOL EXPERIMENTAL FILM AND DOCUMENTARY FILM COMPETITION

The First Bikol Experimental Film And Documentary Film Competition is a pioneering attempt to gather Bikolano film makers and present their masterpieces for recognition.

Who can join the competition?

The competition is open to all Bikolano film makers, neophyte or experienced, who are residents of any part of Bikol region, 18 years old and above. Participants should submit the following together with the duly accomplished application forms:

1. resume/bio data with 2x2 picture
2. Xerox copy of the residence certificate
3. self-addressed and stamped mail envelope
4. registration fee of two hundred pesos P200
5. ten-minute video clip of any sort with ownership certification

The contest piece

The documentary film is centered on the theme Paskong Bikolano while the experimental film is focused on the theme Duman sa Samuya.

Generally, the medium of the films will be in any of the Bikol languages/dialect (Rinconada, Bikol Naga, Bikol Legaspi, Buhinon, Catanduanon, Sorsoganon, etc.). The film making should be done entirely in any place in the region.

The film should run not shorter than 45 minutes and not longer than 1 hour, including opening and closing credits.

The entry may be in black and white or in color. The contest piece will be submitted to the organizer in 2 copies of VCD/DVD, properly labeled.

Submission of entries is not later than January 27, 2006.

Prizes at stake

DOCUMENTARY FILM

First Prize........15,000.00
Second Prize.... 8,000.00
Third prize........ 4,000.00
2 Consolation Prizes.......1,000.00 each


EXPERIMENTAL FILM

First Prize........30,000.00
Second Prize...20,000.00
Third Prize.......10,000.00

2 Consolation Prizes .....5,000.00 each

Pre judging of entries will be done on February 10-13, 2006 at Lolo's Music Bar, 8:00AM -5:00 PM

Five experimental films and five documentary films will be chosen during the pre judging. These five finalists will be vying for the prizes during the Final Judging on February 25, 2006 for Documentary Film and February 26, 2006 for experimental films at Lolos Music Bar, 7:00 PM.

The Samandulayaw-Bikol Inc. reserves the right to publish, show, sell the certified copies of the winning contest pieces, paying the corresponding copyright/royalty fee to the certified owner/author of the film.

drfeelgood17
December 22nd, 2005, 03:01 AM
3rd International Food Exhibition to highlight Bicol food

LEGAZPI CITY, Dec. 21 - Bicol Region will once again invade the international trade and industry, particularly the food sector. It is set to highlight its food products in the 3rd International Food Exhibition (IFEX) Philippines on May 12-14, 2006 at the World Trade Center in Metro Manila. Eliezer Moroña of the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) regional office said Bicol will be the only region to be given the opportunity to exhibit locally manufactured food products. The IFEX 2006 will bring together the country's biggest food exporters, manufacturers, producers, consolidators, suppliers and culinary and members of the academe, government and media. “This is a big opportunity to Bicolano food manufacturers to compete in the international market,” Moroña said. He added that IFEX is an avenue for exchange of in-depth information on global food safety compliance standards including Hazards Analysis Critical Control Points (HACCP), Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP), organic, halal and ksher certificates, US food and drug administration specifications and various related ISO requirements. The food exhibit will show the demand for products, from fresh and processed fruits and vegetables, marine products, fine food and specialties, alcoholic, and non-alcoholic beverages, biscuits and natural products

Jefferyi
December 22nd, 2005, 10:30 AM
^Any description and pics of Bicolano specialties?

slerz
December 22nd, 2005, 10:37 AM
sili, pili nut(my favorite) etc...

Jefferyi
December 22nd, 2005, 10:43 AM
sili, pili nut(my favorite) etc...
^Oh I thought it was talking bout Bicolano specialty dishes. Guess I gots to sleep now that my eyes are starting to play tricks on me. :goodnight

JAMAICUS
December 22nd, 2005, 10:47 AM
LAING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tigidig14
December 22nd, 2005, 03:23 PM
bicol express with a lot of squid :grool: my dad just found out how to cook bikol express and i can say, he did a great job. :)

drfeelgood17
December 22nd, 2005, 09:15 PM
bicol express with a lot of squid :grool: my dad just found out how to cook bikol express and i can say, he did a great job. :)

sarap talaga nyan - in Sorsogon they have very tasty mussels and squid -octupus is even better, especially when fresh! :)

manileño
December 22nd, 2005, 11:04 PM
masarap nga ang gabi.. lalo na sa gabí. :)

manileño
December 22nd, 2005, 11:30 PM
simple Bikol words & phrases... for beginners!

Esteban compa cuantos idiomas hablas? 5? 6? eres un polygloton! jeje

olineil
December 23rd, 2005, 01:33 AM
simple Bikol words & phrases... for beginners!

Some Minor Corrections and additions:

Mayroon = Igwa
Wala = Mayo (Naga) - Wara is preferred in other parts of Bicol
Marami = Kadakol (Dakulon)
Alin = Arin
Kailan = Nuarin
Ilan = Pira
Nasaan = Hain
Saan = Sain
Dapat = Dapat
Pwede = Pwede
Gusto = Gusto, Muya (Naga)
Bakit = Tano, Bakin (Daet), Nata (Legazpi)
Sino = Sisay
Kanino = Kaisay
Ano = Ano
Paano = Pa’no
Oo = Iyo
Hindi = Dai
Ngayon = Ngunyan
Sarili = Sadiri
At = At
Upang = Upang, tanganing
Kung = Kung
Pero = Pero, tibaad
Alam = Aram
Mismo = Mismo
Akala = Akala, pag-hona
Ayaw = Habo

Ang = An
Mga = Mga
Ng = Ning
Si = Si
Ni = Kan
Sa = Sa
Kay = Kay

Ako = Ako
Ikaw, Ka = Ika, Ka
Siya = Siya
Kayo = Kamo
Tayo = Kita
Kami = Kami
Sila = Sinda

Ko = Ko
Mo = Mo
Niya = Niya
Ninyo = Nindo
Natin = Ta
Namin = Mi
Nila = Ninda

Sa Akin = Sa Kuya
Sa Iyo = Sa Imo
Sa Kanya = Sa Iya
Sa Inyo = Sa Indo
Sa Atin = Sa Tuya
Sa Amin = Sa Muya
Sa Kanila = Sa Inda

Dito = Digdi
Diyan = Diyan
Doon = Duman
Ito = Ini
Iyan = Yan
Iyon = Itu

Nandito = Yaon digdi
Nandiyan = Yaon diyan, uyan dyan
Nandoon = Yaon duman, uto duman

Isa = Saro
Dalawa = Duwa
Tatalo = Tulo
Apat = Apat
Lima = Lima
Anim = Anum
Pito = Pito
Walo =Walo
Siyam = Siyam
Sampu = Sampulo

Malinamnam = Masiram
Mabuti = Marhay
Mabait = Maboot
Maanghang = Maharang
Maganda = Magayon
Makasarili = Maimon, makasadiri
Malungkot = Mamundo, Mapung-aw, mapu-ngaw
Bobo = Pula
Astig = Oragon
Malalim = Hararum
Mababaw = Hababaw
Ilalim = Irarum
Ibabaw = Ibabaw
Matangkad = Halangkaw
Short = Hababa
Buntis = Bados
Malayo = Harayo
Malapit = Harani
Magaspang = Maragkot
Mainit = Mainit
Malamig = Malipot
Mabango = Mahamot
Mabaho = Mabata
Malasing = Maburat, Mabuyong
Umupo = Tumukaw
Suntok = Bugti(naga), suntok

Kumain = Kumakan, Magkakan, makaon
Mag-aral = Mag-adal
Pumunta = Dumuman
Umalis = Humali
Makita = Mahiling
Tumawa = Ngumirit
Maghintay = Maghalat
Mag-umpisa = Magpoon
Matulog = Maturog
Lumayo = Rumayo
Lumapit = Rumani
Bumili = Bumakal, mabakal
Magkano = Gurano
Umambon = Tumagiti

Dagat = Dagat
Magkapatid = Magtugang
Kapatid = Tugang
Isda = Sira
Bahay = Harong
Pagkain = Pagkakan, Pagkaon
Lupa = Daga
Umaga = Aga
Araw (Day) = Aldaw
Buwan = Bulan
Loob = Laog
Labas = Luwas
Niyog = Nguog
Pag-ibig = Pagkamoot
Amoy = Parong
Hipon = Pasayan
Aso = Ido(naga) -in Legazpi "ido" is puppy, "ayam" is a mature dog
Usapan = Urulay, uroron
Anak = Aki
Ilog = Salog, sagurong
Palengke = Saod
Tae = Udo
Tae = Ugirit
Bulaklak = Burak
Sahig = Salog
Sombrero = Kupya

sugbuanon
December 23rd, 2005, 03:33 AM
yaon digdi ako sa sorsogon para mahiling ang butanding na pinakamalaki na sira sa daigdig.. :D tama ba?

slerz
December 23rd, 2005, 04:35 AM
di ka man maaram maga sulti san Bicolano @sugbuanon. Basi di kana ka uri sang Sorsogon. Hali anay, taga Sorsogon gid ka @sugbuanon an imo papa?

sugbuanon
December 23rd, 2005, 04:39 AM
hinampak, panuway, bisan unsaon dili jud ko katigo ug bicolano.. :D

slerz
December 23rd, 2005, 04:47 AM
:rofl: you're a bad dog..haha

drfeelgood17
December 23rd, 2005, 08:23 AM
yaon digdi ako sa sorsogon para mahiling ang butanding na pinakadakula na sira sa daigdig.. :D tama ba?

8 out of 10 Mr Cebu"!! pwede na
I hereby declare you, from this day forth, Honorary Bicolano and Oragon of 2005!!! :cheers:

drfeelgood17
December 23rd, 2005, 08:25 AM
^^ Thanks for the corrections Olineil - I noticed them myself but was feeling too lazy to ammend them -sorry! I guess the words they use are Nagueno as I ve never heard of some of them!

Sinjin P.
December 23rd, 2005, 08:27 AM
It was my first time to taste Bicol Express yesterday. And guess what, ANG SARAP! :D

drfeelgood17
December 23rd, 2005, 08:29 AM
^Any description and pics of Bicolano specialties?

will surely do your request later Jefferyi..or maybe either Olineil or Matteo too....gotta rush off now - catch u later! :)

sugbuanon
December 23rd, 2005, 08:30 AM
8 out of 10 Mr Cebu"!! pwede na
I hereby declare you, from this day forth, Honorary Bicolano and Oragon of 2005!!! :cheers:

:cucumber: :dance: :cucumber: woohhoooo thanx mr bicol.. :D

manileño
December 23rd, 2005, 08:30 AM
i already forgot what Bicol express tastes like. all i can remember is that its very spicy :)

wa gwan steve?

drfeelgood17
December 23rd, 2005, 08:33 AM
i already forgot what Bicol express tastes like. all i can remember is that its very spicy :)

wa gwan steve?

Quisiera poder hablar una veintena lenguas como Rizal :jk: :jk: #

awrght matey ...gotta rush off now tho,,,,chat again soon - and don't stay up too late :)

Matteo
December 23rd, 2005, 08:37 AM
i wont. nite nite doc

manileño
December 23rd, 2005, 08:39 AM
idol! :P good morning to you ober dur. ta!

Matteo
December 23rd, 2005, 07:28 PM
The sights and sounds of the city may be lively, but these are precisely what you want to leave behind when you seek serenity and head out of town. Fresh breezes, a picturesque view everywhere you turn, and a soothing ambiance are what people ultimately long for so that developers have finally come up with the perfect haven: Amalfi Condotel.

Situated in Cagraray Island just a short distance from Legazpi Airport in Albay, Amalfi Condotel is something that provides just what weary city-dwellers crave for when they look for a place to call their second home. With its nine splendid structures as part of the Misibis Resorts, Estates & Spa, Amalfi Condotel comprises seven blocks of 3-6 storey condominiums and two hotels that are anything but typical.

For the full story, go to http://www.misibis.com/Condotel.asp

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/condotel_vtype_b.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/condotel_ltype_b.jpg

Animo
December 23rd, 2005, 08:38 PM
doc, I finally found an old photo of your beloved city. I might find more in the future, busy kasi my party later. :)


http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/luzon/details/v10053.jpg
Mayon, the peerless cone of Southern Luzon, showing the old stone Spanish Bridge at Legaspi [Legazpi], Island of Luzon.

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/details/ku24389.jpg
Mayon Volcano and Old Glory, Philippine.

manileño
December 23rd, 2005, 09:39 PM
^^ :applause: is the bridge still standing?

drfeelgood17
December 24th, 2005, 12:51 AM
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/luzon/details/v10053.jpg
Mayon, the peerless cone of Southern Luzon, showing the old stone Spanish Bridge at Legaspi [Legazpi], Island of Luzon.

Thank you for your rare and wonderful find Animo! You really are a star! :cheers: You still havent told me your research secrets. :)
If I'm not mistaken this was the canal that my old neighbour was talking about -
@ Olineil, Matteo, did you know that the whole of Quezon Avenue up to the Obelisk was actually a canal? So Manileno, sadly the bridge is gone coz the canal has been paved over.

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/details/ku24389.jpg
Mayon Volcano and Old Glory, Philippine.[/QUOTE]
This looks like the present-day airport site, near Washington Drive (looks familiary Matty?) :)

drfeelgood17
December 24th, 2005, 12:54 AM
^^Once again, notice how Mayon looked different in those days - somewhat flatter....especially in the first Spanish-era pic.

Askal82
December 24th, 2005, 05:01 AM
^^ Mayon looks lower too compared today

olineil
December 24th, 2005, 05:05 AM
The sights and sounds of the city may be lively, but these are precisely what you want to leave behind when you seek serenity and head out of town. Fresh breezes, a picturesque view everywhere you turn, and a soothing ambiance are what people ultimately long for so that developers have finally come up with the perfect haven: Amalfi Condotel.

Situated in Cagraray Island just a short distance from Legazpi Airport in Albay, Amalfi Condotel is something that provides just what weary city-dwellers crave for when they look for a place to call their second home. With its nine splendid structures as part of the Misibis Resorts, Estates & Spa, Amalfi Condotel comprises seven blocks of 3-6 storey condominiums and two hotels that are anything but typical.

For the full story, go to http://www.misibis.com/Condotel.asp

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/condotel_vtype_b.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/condotel_ltype_b.jpg

I like their condotels...magkano kya per unit? Hope to invest in this project...iv a very positive feeling this is gonna boom and I want to be in the middle of it when it happens...

sugbuanon
December 24th, 2005, 05:18 AM
@olineil diba you posted before pics of a resort in bicol with the candidates of ms. world.. do you have new pics of that cozy resort? thanx

olineil
December 24th, 2005, 05:31 AM
No new pics...but those condotels above are part of the Misibis Residential Spa & Resort that ive been posting. These has got to be one of the biggest investment in Albay and by a local entrepreneur. It would easily cost P1-2 billion on the initial investment, then a few billion more for the final phases of the totality of the resort.

Main conponents of the Resort:

1. Gated Residential Subdivision (All facilities underground)
2. Integrated Resort and recreational area (Spa, Pool and Beach Facility with state of the art sewage & drainage facility to preserve the pristine eviron)
3. Hotel
4. Golf & Country Club
5. Cable Car
6. Helipad
7. Legazpi Wharf (Connecting Commercial Point for Misibis)
8. Condotels (7 tower blocks according to the website)
9. Nature trekking paths
10. Etc...

sugbuanon
December 24th, 2005, 05:42 AM
wooww!!.. it costs billions of pesos yet its just a residential resort.. i'll try looking for pics of the resort myself and post it here if ever i find one.. thanx again olineil.

Matteo
December 24th, 2005, 09:36 AM
@ Olineil, Matteo, did you know that the whole of Quezon Avenue up to the Obelisk was actually a canal? So Manileno, sadly the bridge is gone coz the canal has been paved over.

This looks like the present-day airport site, near Washington Drive (looks familiary Matty?) :)

ya dude. my grandma would tell us stories.
but she alo mentioned something about the land that LCC mall and all those other commercial buildings now stands on is reclaimed, or something like that. or maybe its just the pier area...

im not sure if it looks familiar to me doc hehehehe

Matteo
December 24th, 2005, 09:41 AM
ok. so to compare.

THEN:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/v10053.jpg

NOW: no mas river
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/LegazpiMOnument.jpg

Sinjin P.
December 24th, 2005, 09:47 AM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d32/jadesinjin/Calabarzon/pacific.jpg

{from PBASE}

Matteo
December 24th, 2005, 10:10 AM
boink, the mall looks tiny huh.
thanks for the pic sinjin
its been posted here before but thanks bud bud.

drfeelgood17
December 24th, 2005, 01:22 PM
^^ Tiny...are you serious?? This aint Nu Yoik you know! :bash:

olineil
December 24th, 2005, 06:22 PM
ya dude. my grandma would tell us stories.
but she alo mentioned something about the land that LCC mall and all those other commercial buildings now stands on is reclaimed, or something like that. or maybe its just the pier area...

im not sure if it looks familiar to me doc hehehehe

Ho Ho Ho Ho! Merry Christmas! May The Lords Holy Spirit be upon us all. Rejoice for our Savior is born.

Matts...yeah according to old stories...the obelisk is a making where the original shoreline of Legazpi City is. So it must have been really reclaimed...

Matteo
December 24th, 2005, 06:27 PM
merry christmas olineil. hope you and your wifey's having a good time there in singapore, right?

drfeelgood17
December 24th, 2005, 06:33 PM
Merry Christmas to Mr & Mrs Olineil in Singapore!!

drfeelgood17
December 24th, 2005, 06:34 PM
merry kwishmas to Matt-chew in Las Vegas !

Matteo
December 24th, 2005, 07:07 PM
maligayang pasko doc

JAMAICUS
December 24th, 2005, 07:15 PM
MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM QUEZON CITY TO BICOL!!!!

olineil
December 25th, 2005, 01:36 AM
Merry Christmas Doc, Matt, Sugbuanon, Slerz, Lili, Manileño, Sinjin, Jamaicus, Askal82 and the rest of the Gang that are posting here... Happy SSC Christmas!

sugbuanon
December 25th, 2005, 02:26 AM
maayong pasko ninyong tanan bai.. tenk u.. tenk u.. ang babait ninyo tenk u.. :D

slerz
December 25th, 2005, 03:04 AM
Oh... I LOVE BICOL...
Maayong Pasko kaninyong tanan diha og sa akong mga higala diha sa Bicol... :okay::okay:

Matteo
December 25th, 2005, 06:43 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/legazpiportview.jpg

BOULEVARD, City-Park by the Sea: A Revitalization of Legazpi City's Shorelines

Parks, often called the green space, play a vital role in any city development. It improves community health and offer opportunities for recreation, reflection and relaxation. Everyone who lives in a city is affected directly and indirectly by the presence of parks. It helps spur urban revival by attracting business and revitalizing neighborhoods. It nurtures physical and mental health and reduces crime delinquency. For many years and in many cities throughout the world, parks have played a pivotal role in shaping the success of cities. It is an essential component in transforming and enriching our cities.

But despite the obvious advantages of having green space, parks were not always been successful. There are only three major parks in Legazpi City but they are in crisis and under threat of diminishing because they have been too expensive to maintain and they often converted to other income generating use. A typical example is the Peñaranda Park which was converted into a commercial building disguising as a park. (Arch. Rino DA Fernandez, Dean CAFA AUL)
Our people as a whole seem to disregard the value of natural aesthetics, open spaces had been neglected, river- banks or legal easements was occupied by squatters, and the continuous disposal of garbage to swamps. The significant role of parks and other open spaces in the process of urbanization had been totally neglected in order to balance man-made and natural environment.

It is very unfortunate that at present, almost all of us have been neglecting our traditional town plazas and parks in favor of the shopping malls- of what we call now as the “New Town Centers”. (Arch. Alberto Dumlao uap, How do we make our plazas work?) Parks, plazas, and our historic city centers had been avoided by most people. Parks are assets in term of investment since it makes the city safe and healthy.

Life and experience in the public realm of these cities had been very inhuman brought about by the neglect of the society and the built structure around them. The beautiful landscape is threatened and is being despoiled at an alarming rate. In the downtowns, public squares and plazas, playgrounds and parks had been transformed to offending areas and eyesores because of neglect and irresponsibility. Parks and public realms that normally provide centers of urban life and activity are almost totally lacking and disappearing.

The City government had taken initial step to safeguard its natural environment and the public space. Urbanization in Legazpi City is now being felt. Malls and business establishments are now occupying a bigger portion of the City, a greater percentage against the public realms and open spaces had resulted to the thinning of the city port district urban life. Hence, this causes to overlook the cities waterfront which is very important in urban vitality.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/LegazpiCitywharfrend.jpg

The BAYWALK BOULEVARD, City-Park by the Sea, aims to revitalize the City’s Shorelines and to enhance Legazpi being a Port City. This linear park development of shorelines is an attempt to bring people back to the port area where the city started its growth. It will focus to the orderly development of Legazpi shorelines as a public linear park and walkway to appreciate the city. The City would try to look down to one of its assets, THE SEA. The Bay Boulevard is an option for park goers, with the aim to bring back the glory days of parks, where it served as gathering place for the elderly to sit, relax and gossip, where businessmen meet, where children play, where residents would come for socio-cultural activities during fiestas and tiangges. A place away from noise, pollution and tension brought about by cars, instead it offers the fresh sea breeze and the music of the waves of the sea. This ambitious project of the city suggests an enlightened treatment and interrelationships by which it can become an integral element in the total structure of humane city. In short a time, it will offer many recreational activities such as: a Play field, Playgrounds, Multipurpose lawns, Interactive water feature , Athletic space, Concert space , Skateboard park , Picnic, Food vendors, Views (Mt. Mayon, Sleeping Lion-Kapuntukan Hill, dramatic Sun Rise), Fishing pier, Or even Performance/events space Unknowingly, Sawangan (old name of Legazpi City) and Maynilad (old name of Manila) have striking similar characteristics. Both settled and grew by the sea and river; Manila Bay and Pasig River for Manila while Albay Gulf and Yawa River for Legazpi City. Both cities were blessed with natural waterscapes and unique history. And like Manila, Legazpi Port District had grown into the city’s Central Business District, the busiest area in the province of Albay. It has been the Center of excellence for business, shopping, entertainment, culture and recreation. She had experience dramatic change brought about by economic blast and industrialization and now categorized as the second “more urbanized” of the places in the Bicol Region, next to Naga City (Legazpi City CLUP). Because of its strategic location and setting she can be best described as “Gateway to Bicol”.
Though it is not as ambitious as compared to other waterfront parks in some part of the world, but at least all Legazpeños can and should take special pride in the fact that through the combined efforts of many individuals and leadership groups, the city now owns major portion of land, a park beside the sea adjacent to the busy urban centers.

Programs, policies and schemes to play and work with nature must be adopted and imposed by the City policy makers in order to protect the endangered park and park-users and prevent them from dangers of modern life. It is important for everyone to understand why green space as a public realm exists, and what can be done to preserve it.


::http://www.united-architects.org/headliners_view.php?id=38

Matteo
December 25th, 2005, 07:11 PM
hey doc, pic for you:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/101439402.jpg

Matteo
December 25th, 2005, 07:33 PM
Misibis Resort & Spa cable car

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/ms1.jpg

with my cousins hehehe

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/dsc000071.jpg

and in the car across the Sula Channel

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/dsc000131.jpg

Askal82
December 25th, 2005, 08:02 PM
^^ Matteo, hook me up to your girl cousins! either one of them. :D

kyle@1008
December 25th, 2005, 08:03 PM
^^ you have pretty cousins...

kyle@1008
December 25th, 2005, 08:10 PM
ka guwapa gid sa ila....

Askal82
December 25th, 2005, 08:25 PM
Amo. Nami gid ang talatan-awan! :)

Matteo
December 25th, 2005, 08:31 PM
huh? dili ako maka sabot heheheehehehe

Matteo
December 25th, 2005, 08:41 PM
hehe no theyre not really my cousins, i was just kidding
theyre actually the hosts of this local abs-cbn travel show called Bicol Spesyal, and they featured the resort in one episode

here. bicolana delights hehehehe
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/bikolespesyalhosts.jpg

Askal82
December 25th, 2005, 09:16 PM
:uh: ngeee!! Natansò mo ako doon ah. :lol:

tigidig14
December 25th, 2005, 09:17 PM
wow they have those cable cars, how much does it cost to get into it, nice great looking fake cousins btw

Matteo
December 25th, 2005, 11:05 PM
wow they have those cable cars, how much does it cost to get into it, nice great looking fake cousins btw

cable car: duno how much, olineil might know...
nice looking fake cousins: hehehe, i would ask her out too in a heartbeat

Matteo
December 25th, 2005, 11:08 PM
WOKEY PICTURE TIME

not so very nice looking pics, but still something to look at:

Bicol University soccer field, Arts & Sciences building:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/busoccerfield.jpg

Highway going to Bicol, dubbed as Bitukang Manok:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/bitukamanokh.jpg

Bicol's best medical school, AMEC:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/amec.jpg

Probably the city's oldest, if not one of, hotel - Hotel La Trinidad:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/latrinidad.jpg

Other views of LCC Mall: saan ba ito?
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/lccmall.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/lccmall2.jpg

Penaranda Street:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/penarandast.jpg

photos courtesy of webshots.com

olineil
December 26th, 2005, 02:51 AM
Nice finds Padi! Hanep ka talaga sa research of pics. And those fake cousins...whew!
WOKEY PICTURE TIME

not so very nice looking pics, but still something to look at:

Bicol University soccer field, Arts & Sciences building:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/busoccerfield.jpg
I remember this place...Memories of my college life

Highway going to Bicol, dubbed as Bitukang Manok:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/bitukamanokh.jpg
Wow first time I saw Bitukang Manok in Daylight

Bicol's best medical school, AMEC:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/amec.jpg
Yep, there are tons of foreign students in this school

Probably the city's oldest, if not one of, hotel - Hotel La Trinidad:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/latrinidad.jpg

Other views of LCC Mall: saan ba ito?
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/lccmall.jpg
This view is Corner Peñaranda and Rizal street, the Grocery section.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/lccmall2.jpg

Penaranda Street:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/penarandast.jpg
Peñaranda st is actually where the jeep plies. This is Rizal st. going to La Trinidad Hotel. See the Ibalon School Supply Signage?
photos courtesy of webshots.com

Sinjin P.
December 26th, 2005, 02:53 AM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/bitukamanokh.jpg

Bicol's Version of the Kennon (Zigzag) Road.

olineil
December 26th, 2005, 03:33 AM
Bicol's Version of the Kennon (Zigzag) Road.

Yup, but not to brag...this place is more tracherous than Kennon Road and its right in the middle of Bicol's Virgin Forest. Nowadays...only 2-4 wheelers are alowed here. Lorries and Buses need the width of the curves to negotiate it.

Sinjin P.
December 26th, 2005, 03:37 AM
^^ Yeah, it looks very narrow.... :runaway:

Hawayano
December 26th, 2005, 05:22 AM
Everytime I see any part of the highway down the Bikol peninsula, I worry about "what would happen if there was an NPA ambush here??" Can someone tell me what's the latest on security in this region? My most recent impression came from that Aga Muhlach and Claudine Barretto movie that supposedly took place in Bikol (Kailangan Kita )...

olineil
December 26th, 2005, 05:38 AM
Everytime I see any part of the highway down the Bikol peninsula, I worry about "what would happen if there was an NPA ambush here??" Can someone tell me what's the latest on security in this region? My most recent impression came from that Aga Muhlach and Claudine Barretto movie that supposedly took place in Bikol (Kailangan Kita )...

One thing I can assure you...Bicol is 1000% more peaceful than Manila...

Another analogy...I feel secure in bicol the way I feel the security here in Singapore...nuf said...LOL

Sinjin P.
December 26th, 2005, 05:41 AM
^^ Aren't there lamp posts on the Bitukang Manok?

tigidig14
December 26th, 2005, 06:58 AM
Everytime I see any part of the highway down the Bikol peninsula, I worry about "what would happen if there was an NPA ambush here??" Can someone tell me what's the latest on security in this region? My most recent impression came from that Aga Muhlach and Claudine Barretto movie that supposedly took place in Bikol (Kailangan Kita )...
i thnk thats low of you to think off, would it also mean that you wont visit Ny because of what happened :ohno:

Hawayano
December 26th, 2005, 07:15 AM
i thnk thats low of you to think off, would it also mean that you wont visit Ny because of what happened :ohno:
Sorry that you interpreted it as such--it's just that I haven't been that way in the last 25 years! Unfortunately, my apparently inaccurate perception is reflective of what the international media (as well as your own Pinoy film directors) have selected to tell the outside world about Bikol. Once more, sorry if I've offended anyone in here with that comment--it was not my intention to do so.

Matteo
December 26th, 2005, 10:29 AM
Everytime I see any part of the highway down the Bikol peninsula, I worry about "what would happen if there was an NPA ambush here??" Can someone tell me what's the latest on security in this region? My most recent impression came from that Aga Muhlach and Claudine Barretto movie that supposedly took place in Bikol (Kailangan Kita )...
That movie actually does not give justice to Bicol's present state, both politically and physically. Maybe if the film was set in the 1960s, yeah.
A Manila Standard article actually comments on this film and its portrayal of the province, and region:

SRO (Short Review Only). I have been able to watch two Tagalog movies (Kailangan Kita and Hibla) last weekend. Blame it on Harry Potter who appropriated all screens for his second film Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets.

I finally sat through Star Cinema’s Kailangan Kita if only to find out how much more mistakes the moviemakers committed in their failed attempt to capture the Bicol culture. Let me just say that the movie could have been more palatable had Rory Quintos and her coterie of script consultants did more research on the Bicolano culture. The first thing that had me almost puking inside the wall-to-wall carpet G4 cinema was the sight of kare-kare on the table. The dish, let me clarify, is unknown to native Bicolanos. The second thing that almost had me scampering out of the theater was the soundbite about an approaching typhoon in which the voice over announcer referred to Bicol as province. Correction please, Bicol is the region composed of five provinces (from north to south): Camarines Norte, Camarines Sur, Albay, Sorsogon, and the islands of Catanduanes and Masbate.

It is clear that the producers, the director, and the writers are ignorant of the region’s geography, much less the complexities of the Bicolano culture, especially in the numerous variants of the Bicolano dialect. Do they know that there are over a hundred variants of the Bicol dialect? Quintos, instead of offering her audience a much more concrete idea of Bicol merely muddled the already confused impression non-Bicolanos have of the region.

Apart from mentioning Legazpi (the capital city of Albay province where that majestic cone-shaped volcano is located), Bacacay (as supposedly the NPA infested town, I hope the people from that peace-loving town don’t get offended) and Irosin, (a town in the province of Sorsogon, some 70 kilometers away from Legazpi), we are never told where exactly that little episode of melodrama happened. Since I come from Albay, I surmise it could have happened in Guinobatan where Duran is a common family name (remember representative Josefina Duran of the third district of Albay?) and because Mayon seems to have an ubiquitous presence in almost all the scenes.

But Guinobatnons who live in the poblacion or centro don’t walk and cross a creek and a military checkpoint to go to the market. There are tricycles and jeepneys in the town. Perhaps, it happened in a barrio in Pio Duran, yet, I didn’t see any landmark identifiable with the town. And apart from the opening shots of the little Legazpi City airport, the St. Gregory the Great Cathedral in old Albay, the Legazpi City Hall, there were no other landmarks I am familiar with, having grown up in Albay.

Then again, in the scene where Aga (the New York-based chef) meets a blind man who purportedly cooks the best laing in the region, the greeting Mayad na adlaw (Good morning) is clearly a convolution of Viracnon (mayad) and Jubanon (from Juban, Sorsogon where the dialect comes closer to Waray-Waray than Legazpi or Naga, Bicol).

The movie, I am told, was a big hit. Well and good, but it doesn’t mean we have to take it as it is. Next time, I’ll deal with the much talked-about bra-less Claudine Barretto and her character’s NPA connections.

http://www.manilastandardonline.com:8080/mnlastd/?page=goodLife03_nov20_2002

Matteo
December 26th, 2005, 10:31 AM
And another one. Read on:

MUCH ADO ABOUT BRA-LESS CLAUDINE. I’m sure by this time those who have seen Kailangan Kita have actually forgotten the movie. But still some remember it for the infractions it committed against the culture and traditions of the Bicolanos.

Specifically, I’m referring to the braless Claudine Barretto who, although nothing much can be gleaned from her flimsy peasant-inspired fashions, was all along willing to sell the movie to guys curious about what she hides beneath those cotton and loose-fitting blouses.

And she succeeded, as the movie became a monster hit (at least in local movie standards) giving Star Cinema’s publicist to arrogantly remark “You can’t argue with success.”

I don’t argue its success but the gross mistakes it committed in depicting life in my native and beloved Albay province, where I grew up, studied, and go home to on special occasions.

I tell you, I don’t know anyone, except perhaps women who left the province to work as bailarinas in dance halls in Calumpang, Marikina, Lolomboy, Bocaue in Bulacan, Culi-Culi in Makati, Sta. Ana, Manila, Pasay City, Angeles City, and Olongapo City can be daring enough to strut around town with bouncing balls on their chest, but they would normally be conspicuously formed and held in place by tight-fitting blouses. Of course, the writer and director will use “cinematic license” as argument, which to me is a flimsy alibi to justify an obvious gaffe.

There’s a way to portray sensuality without stating the obvious—in the use of camera, lighting, even the choice of color to underscore the unexpressed desire of both protagonists for each other. But Rory Quintos chose to be literal.

Apart from the braless female protagonist, the scriptwriters are obviously ignorant of the feudal character of Bicolano families, especially the landed ones. No matter what, these families maintain a platoon of helpers, and the parents will never allow their daughters to do household chores if it could be avoided. Even if a daughter displeased her parents, she’d still get royal treatment with some very stringent conditions, of course. I don’t know of any Bicolano family who treated a son or daughter like a houseboy or housemaid, unless, the writers are using an impoverished family as a basis for the story.

In the case of character played by Aga Muhlach, if his father left his family when he was only eight years old, I don’t think it’s possible for him to bear so much hatred for him, especially after living in the US for almost half of his lifetime. Maybe, he’d feel some kind of pain especially after seeing his father in that sorry state (blind and poor). In fact, I think the first thing that he should have done is try to look for his father. Bicolanos are proud of where they came from, whether it’s a poor and small town or a big city like Legazpi or Naga.

Albay is not as backward as the movie showed. Legazpi City has malls with department stores and supermarkets, coffee shops where friends meet for a late night chat, an efficient transportation system (you don’t have to walk to the public market), hotels where Aga could have stayed while waiting for her bride (so he could have avoided coveting his bride’s sister).

Maybe Rory Quintos and her writers meant to portray life in Siruma, a far-flung coastal town in Camarines Sur, or Jovellar in Albay where life seems to have stood still. And yet, it seems it is set at the peripheries of Legazpi, perhaps Camalig or Daraga. But, the spattering of Bicolano phrases in the dialogue says it is happening somewhere else.

http://www.manilastandardonline.com:8080/mnlastd/?page=goodLife03_dec06_2002

drfeelgood17
December 26th, 2005, 01:57 PM
^^ Post-christmas greetings to all of you !! :cheers:
Thanx Matt for the lastest Legazpi pix - keep them flowing please! :)
Re: the film review, I still havent seen this movie. I'm not that surprised if it portrays Bicol in a very negative and ignorant way since 99% of movies in the RP are made/produced by Manila-based directors who are not really interested in researching the cultural background of their settings. It is always an easier (and lazier) option for them to stick to stereotypical portrayals of Bicol as NPA infested, backwards etc..etc...Same thing with Visayans in Tagalog movies. I remember they tend be cast as characters who can barely speak Tagalog ( and this is supposed to be funny), who are often the drivers, maids, cooks in Tagalog movies. In other words, they tend to be the "clowns". Let's hope that things are finally changing for the better. I'm all for more films made in regional languages, if it helps give us a more rounded view of the culture of those regions and also for the sake of diversity.

olineil
December 26th, 2005, 02:55 PM
^^ Post-christmas greetings to all of you !! :cheers:
Thanx Matt for the lastest Legazpi pix - keep them flowing please! :)
Re: the film review, I still havent seen this movie. I'm not that surprised if it portrays Bicol in a very negative and ignorant way since 99% of movies in the RP are made/produced by Manila-based directors who are not really interested in researching the cultural background of their settings. It is always an easier (and lazier) option for them to stick to stereotypical portrayals of Bicol as NPA infested, backwards etc..etc...Same thing with Visayans in Tagalog movies. I remember they tend be cast as characters who can barely speak Tagalog ( and this is supposed to be funny), who are often the drivers, maids, cooks in Tagalog movies. In other words, they tend to be the "clowns". Let's hope that things are finally changing for the better. I'm all for more films made in regional languages, if it helps give us a more rounded view of the culture of those regions and also for the sake of diversity.

You really hit the mark there doc. Well I guess Philippine movies are still in the stage where they'd rather earn a quick buck even if they sacrifice the integrity and value of the movie. I would actually consider this movie as Pito-Pito.

To be honest...ive only 1 Filipino movie that I really liked and felt proud of, its "Rizal".

Askal82
December 26th, 2005, 07:06 PM
^^ Well, some movies aren't really accurate in what they usually portray. Even in American movies they have a lot of stereotypes, or they even exagerate it to achieve comical effect about people.

Matteo
December 26th, 2005, 07:22 PM
PICTURE TIME!

photo credits to buhs86, webshots.com

the city against the ocean backdrop, airport runway:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/lcairportandoceanjpg.jpg

A street with wires and a funky building hehehe, i thik its JBee:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/darlegaspird.jpg

Holy crap! the Bicol University mighty acacia tree is now a park!
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/acaciatree.jpg

this was how i remembered it:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/BicolUniversityIcon.jpg

and of course, Mayon:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/mayonshot.jpg

rustyboi
December 26th, 2005, 08:25 PM
Hi fellaz! SSC Cebu forumers just had their first EB!
Check this out :cool:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=299506

Thanks a bunch! :D

olineil
December 27th, 2005, 03:45 AM
Sorry that you interpreted it as such--it's just that I haven't been that way in the last 25 years! Unfortunately, my apparently inaccurate perception is reflective of what the international media (as well as your own Pinoy film directors) have selected to tell the outside world about Bikol. Once more, sorry if I've offended anyone in here with that comment--it was not my intention to do so.

None Taken Brother...We should live at Peace with each other. Its just sad that movies would convolute true situations just to get a quick buck...

Hawayano
December 27th, 2005, 04:04 AM
None Taken Brother...We should live at Peace with each other. Its just sad that movies would convolute true situations just to get a quick buck...

I hear you on that one! Just look at what how the mass-marketed movies have been distorting the image of Hawaii and the Hawaiian people since the 1930s...

And having roots in Daraga, I would love to return to see my lolo's place after 28 years' absence (showing my age!).

olineil
December 27th, 2005, 05:37 AM
I hear you on that one! Just look at what how the mass-marketed movies have been distorting the image of Hawaii and the Hawaiian people since the 1930s...

And having roots in Daraga, I would love to return to see my lolo's place after 28 years' absence (showing my age!).

I think you would be stunned How different it is right now, specially Legazpi city.

olineil
December 27th, 2005, 05:46 AM
Im tryin to manipulate this photo to remove all the wires...Just curious to see how nice it would be w/o all those wires...may take a little while...abangan...
PICTURE TIME!
A street with wires and a funky building hehehe, i thik its JBee:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/darlegaspird.jpg

Matteo
December 27th, 2005, 05:47 AM
Im tryin to manipulate this photo to remove all the wires...Just curious to see how nice it would be w/o all those wires...may take a little while...abangan...
where this located anyway

Askal82
December 27th, 2005, 05:49 AM
Dam, these wires! they just ruin the view.

Matteo
December 27th, 2005, 08:00 AM
photo credits tommykam, ammitch

aerial view of Mayon:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/mayonaerial.jpg

view from mayon Skyline:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/mayskyline2.jpg

St. Gregory the Great Cathedral:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/MatteoMatt/305349387jCjRVb_ph.jpg