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Monadnock February 1st, 2005, 03:33 PM Height: 458 ft
Floor count: 41
Location: North Fairbanks and East Ohio
Construction end: 2007
Architect: Murphy/Jahn, Inc. Architects
Developer: Schatz Development LLC
Website (http://www.600northfairbanks.com/)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3151/600nfairbanksog8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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From today's Sun-Times:
Helmut Jahn, once a firebrand of Chicago architecture who recently has landed most of his work overseas, is coming home to try his hand at that most common of genres, the downtown condominium tower.
Jahn has provided the design for a planned 197-unit building at 600 N. Fairbanks. Developer Geoffrey Ruttenberg hopes to begin marketing the project in late spring.
The celebrated designer of the James R. Thompson Center and the United Airlines terminal at O'Hare Airport, Jahn has brought his taste for glass walls and experimentation into a category where developers usually stick with what has sold. The result has been a repeat of buildings with beige concrete or design touches meant to evoke the Art Deco past.
The limited stylistic range prompted Mayor Daley in 2003 to admonish architects that they'll have to do better if they want City Hall to approve their projects.
Ruttenberg said he selected Jahn for the distinctive personality he would bring to the building. "We're trying not to view this as one of 25 condo buildings selling at the same time,'' he said.
Jahn, chief executive of Murphy/Jahn Inc., said the building could be his first work in the downtown area since his 120 N. La Salle office building was completed in 1991. "I have the confidence that we can do a little better'' than many of the condo towers that have joined Chicago's skyline, he said.
"Visitors who come to Chicago to see the architecture, they often say that something is lacking,'' Jahn said. He said that Europe, meanwhile, has encouraged innovation in technology and materials.
"In Europe, the expectations for living accommodations are higher'' in such areas as "fresh air, light and visual privacy,'' Jahn said.
The Streeterville location is two blocks east of Michigan Avenue and within a neighborhood of acute developer interest. Two large-scale new developments are within a couple blocks of the Jahn site and some local groups have called for a halt to high-rise construction until city officials can develop detailed plans to handle traffic.
Neighbors appear to have little leverage over the Jahn building. Ruttenberg said its size is allowed under current zoning rules. He emphasized the design is preliminary and could be modified after talks with civic groups and the city.
Ruttenberg said he will market the site to buyers who want open, loft-like floor plans combined with an abundance of glass and exposed steel and concrete.
"We're trying for a niche that's been neglected in Streeterville,'' said Ruttenberg, a third-generation developer whose father, David "Buzz" Ruttenberg, is responsible for a new tower at 530 N. Lake Shore Drive and a two-building complex planned for 600 N. Lake Shore Drive.
Geoffrey Ruttenberg is a principal of the firm Brixton Group Ltd., but he said a separate investment group he's still assembling will bankroll the Fairbanks building. He said he expects most unit prices to range from about $320,000 to $560,000.
The building will have 27 stories, but its height will be closer to most 33-story buildings, he said. That's because the floors will have 10-foot ceilings, in contrast to the eight-foot ceilings common in high-rises.
The building includes curved glass overlooking the northwest corner of Fairbanks and Ohio. Jahn also provided a transparent lobby showing ramps that lead to the garage. In an unusual approach, the garage will be built over an existing three-story building at Fairbanks and Ontario. It's the long-ago home of the Chez Paree nightclub and now has offices, the bar Timothy O'Toole's and at least four restaurants.
Jahn said the garage arrangement allows for "speed ramps'' that will get residents into and out of the building quickly. The tall lobby also means the lowest living unit will be some 70 feet above the street's commotion, Jahn said.
Jahn has no prior work in downtown's booming condo market.
"I hope it's the beginning of more work like this,'' he said.
"In a market that's become more saturated, it's necessary to come up with a product that's not more expensive, but better.'' Housing expert Gail Lissner said Jahn should find a ready audience of buyers. Lissner, vice president of Appraisal Research Counselors Ltd., said buyers have shown a preference toward modern designs in most of the latest projects being marketed.
geoff_diamond February 1st, 2005, 06:14 PM This is very exciting... I really like most of Jahn's work! Two notes though:
1) they really should stop attaching his name to the Thompson Center - it's one of the five worst buildings in Chicago (save for the interior)
2) I am so sick of the NIMBY groups (especially in S'ville) bitching about every single project that comes up. Especially when that bitching relates to traffic. Have these people not figured out yet that we have next to NO traffic in downtown Chicago? If it were the residents of Clark and Wrightwood complaining about traffic I'd give it a second thought... but Streeterville?
Jasonhouse February 1st, 2005, 06:18 PM I was just wondering what happened to this guy the other day. Well now, here's the answer. :)
Tom in Chicago February 1st, 2005, 07:43 PM Helmut Jahn has been pretty busy lately. . . even here in Chicagoland. . .
Alter Seeks Green in Multi-Hued Corridors IV
By Mark Ruda
Last updated: January 31, 2005 11:17am
DOWNERS GROVE, IL-The suburban office market may be getting its first LEED-certified “green building,” a striking 470,000-sf complex that will become Corridors IV. Renowned architect Helmut Jahn is designing the two-building Corridors IV on 10.9 acres on Finley Road, overlooking the 1,700-acre Morton Arboretum as well as I-88 and I-355.
Although the developer, Alter Group, declines to put a number on the cost, a reasonable estimate would begin at $100 million. Achieving Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design status, superior infrastructure and other design elements will increase the cost compared to other class-A buildings, Alter Group senior vice president Matthew A. Ward says the incremental costs are “less than you think.” They also are likely to be recouped by tenants who see greater worker productivity in an environmentally friendly building with flexible floor plates and energy efficiency. “The costs might be 5% to 10% more, but the returns on the investment are 10-fold in terms of worker productivity, quality of life and economic sustainability,” Ward tells GlobeSt.com.
Ward’s task now is finding at least one tenant willing to take at least 50,000 sf to anchor the building, but he has identified “two or three genuine prospect.” Although the East-West Corridor remains soft, as total vacancy in the largest suburban submarket starts the year at 25.4%, according to US Equities Realty, Inc., the highest in the entire market. However, the 93% of the 517,500 sf in Corridors I, II and III is leased, with 148,000 sf in deals signed last year, according to president Michael J. Alter.
“We feel pretty confident,” Ward adds. “Not only are the buildings’ locations attractive, but their infrastructures are superior.”
Corridors IV, though, promises to be the most aesthetically attractive. Jahn says his design calls for the building’s façade to be lit in green, blue and yellow at night.
“We want to advance the suburban office building,” says Jahn, whose firm, Murphy Jahn Associates, won AIA Firm of the Year honors in 2005. His local portfolio includes the James R. Thompson Center, 120 N. LaSalle St. and Terminal One at O’Hare International Airport. “Corridors IV will create a true integration between human, natural and financial capital.”
Ward tells GlobeSt.com his company could seek a permit this summer, with completion coming as early as late summer 2006. Alter Group has not decided whether to sell off Corridors IV or keep it in its portfolio has it has Corridors I and II, Ward adds. Atlanta-based Wells REIT bought Corridors III for $40.5 million in the fourth quarter, or $182 per sf.
ChicagoLover February 1st, 2005, 09:00 PM "Visitors who come to Chicago to see the architecture, they often say that something is lacking,'' Jahn said. He said that Europe, meanwhile, has encouraged innovation in technology and materials.
One word: Loewenberg.
ChicagoLover February 1st, 2005, 09:03 PM I canvassed the internet for renderings, but came up empty. The website of the developer, Brixton Group, did not even mention this proposed project. Its interesting that a developer known only for much smaller projects in the Northside can enter the downtown condo high-rise market with such a splash... while the big guys just plod along peddling garbage.
ChicagoLover February 1st, 2005, 09:04 PM What a breath of fresh air. Things are looking up in Chicago now with One Museum Park, which is awesome DESPITE its architect, and now this promising development. I canvassed the internet for renderings, but came up empty. The website of the developer, Brixton Group, did not even mention this proposed project. Its interesting that a developer known only for much smaller projects in the Northside can enter the downtown condo high-rise market with such a splash... while the big guys just plod along peddling garbage.
ChicagoLover February 1st, 2005, 09:06 PM I hasten to add that I say "DESPITE" its architect, because, according to the Tribune article on January 9th ? or so, the architects had to keep going back to the drawing boards to come up with something that would win city approval. For once, a planning process / neighborhood pressures that actually improve the architect's work. For all of Daley's mishaps, we will probably have him and his planning department to thank when the majestic One Museum Park gets built.
24gotham February 1st, 2005, 10:26 PM Found this image scanned from the Sun Times on one of my regular blogs I visit. Daily Dose of Architecture (http://archidose.blogspot.com/)
All I can say is WOW! I like it. Jahn has been doing some brilliant work in the last few years, and IMHO, this is no different. I absolutely love the visable garage ramp through the lobby area. I also am in love with the idea of building the glass garage above existing buildings.
http://www.archidose.org/Blog/Jahn-Fairbanks.jpg
The Urban Politician February 2nd, 2005, 02:05 AM ^WOW, coolio
I also like how he chooses to preserve that historic building below it
northsidesoxfan February 2nd, 2005, 04:49 AM Columbus, from the river to Northwestern might just wind up being one of Chicago's great streets. On the south end you have Wacker's hotels and LSE's residential population. On the north end you have Northwestern and old Streeterville. In between there are all sorts of hotels, condos, retail spaces and offices.
As for Jahn's design, I see similarities to his Project J-1 and Project J-2 designs that never got built over at 660 North Wabash. Well frickin' done.
http://images.snapfish.com/342%3A53%3B923232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E2339%3D%3A9%3A%3D%3A28%3DXROQDF%3E23237645%3B3937ot1lsi
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I'm buying the first round at Timothy O'Tooles once that garage gets built on top. The coolest garage in the city. The circular drive-up evokes Bertrand Goldberg (Marina City), but to Jahn's credit it's always a short ride up in this building.
geoff_diamond February 2nd, 2005, 08:05 AM Okay... that garage ramp is just plain sick... I love it!
I also forgot how much I loved the designs for 660... what a shame :(
BVictor1 February 3rd, 2005, 11:31 PM this small color rendering of Helmut Jahn's condo tower was in the Sun-Times on tyesdat, hopefully we'll get a better one in the future.
http://images.snapfish.com/342%3A696723232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E2323768%3B35555ot1lsi
The Urban Politician February 3rd, 2005, 11:41 PM ^Thanks, BV
oshkeoto February 4th, 2005, 04:33 AM Alright, it's a nice building. But didn't Jahn steal the ramp idea from the 111 Wacker Building?
And frankly, from Jahn, I would expect something slightly more interesting above the lobby...
BVictor1 February 4th, 2005, 06:10 AM Alright, it's a nice building. But didn't Jahn steal the ramp idea from the 111 Wacker Building?
And frankly, from Jahn, I would expect something slightly more interesting above the lobby...
I don't think that he really stole the ramp idea, more as he's taken it to the next level. The parking garage situated above an existing structure. And in this building, you will be able to see the cars going up the rame. I almost see this as a glass enclosed Marina City parking ramp.
geoff_diamond February 4th, 2005, 05:37 PM It sort of reminds me of a combination between 111 S. Wacker and the Contemporaine (since you can see the cars in the Contemp's garage). Either way, I would hardly call it plagiarism.
I've got my reservations about the rest of the building, but, if it turns out to be as transparent as it looks in the renderings, I think it'll be fantastic.
BVictor1 June 19th, 2005, 10:39 PM 600 North Fairbanks
Old Rendering
http://www.archidose.org/Blog/Jahn-Fairbanks.jpg
New Rendering
http://www.600northfairbanks.com/images/building1.jpg
http://www.600northfairbanks.com/images/building2.jpg
It looks as if they're removed the parking structure from atop the loft building to the north and incorporated it into the tower, which is why it seems taller.
www.600northfairbanks.com
ChicagoLover June 19th, 2005, 11:24 PM Now I'm confused... is Jahn designing one, two or three proposed towers? Is he designing one for the South Loop, or no? And is he designing an SRO, or no? Some authoritative person please inform me! I want to pop my bubble now rather than later if this is the only one.
BVictor1 June 20th, 2005, 01:05 AM Now I'm confused... is Jahn designing one, two or three proposed towers? Is he designing one for the South Loop, or no? And is he designing an SRO, or no? Some authoritative person please inform me! I want to pop my bubble now rather than later if this is the only one.
He's doing all 3.
2PRUROCKS! June 20th, 2005, 04:24 AM Is the SRO your speaking of the Lakefront Supportive Housing near Cabrini Green? If so I wouldn't really call it a tower...it is only about 5 stories. But ther is also the south Loop tower I have yet to see a rendering and 600 N F.
geoff_diamond June 20th, 2005, 09:29 AM hrmm... the parking ramps don't look as visible anymore. I hope it's just a difference in the rendering technique because it will be a great loss if they've been hidden too much. I enjoy the notches at the top (on the west facade) though - presumably balconies.
pflo777 June 21st, 2005, 11:56 AM the parking garage is up to the 13th floor, where u can so no balkonies.
It wasnt possible to build the garage on top of the neigboure building because of structural reasons
ChicagoLover June 21st, 2005, 08:44 PM Excellent -- 3 Jahn buildings.. When it rains it pours ( I say ruefully wishing Morton Salt was still around.)
2PRUROCKS! June 22nd, 2005, 04:47 AM Jahn is also designing Corridors IV in Downers Grove, IL.
BVictor1 June 23rd, 2005, 10:55 AM I thought that some of you guys might find this newsletter interesting.
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geoff_diamond June 23rd, 2005, 06:37 PM Now I just hope they hit their pre-sales marks so this one can actually go up!!!
spyguy August 19th, 2005, 05:28 PM I like this new, colored version of 600 N. Fairbanks:
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Chad August 19th, 2005, 05:33 PM The facade looks great!
LA1 August 21st, 2005, 07:29 PM Is there any retail on the ground floor? It would be nice if the retail faced Fairbanks. Lack of retail on that street.
geoff_diamond August 21st, 2005, 09:52 PM It sure doesn't look like there will be :(
spyguy September 16th, 2005, 08:03 AM You can now RSVP on their site.
spyguy September 24th, 2005, 12:34 AM the building amenities
. Designed by internationally acclaimed architect Helmut Jahn
. Floor to ceiling glass in all units
. Private balconies in all units with glass screen wall to maximize
view and light
. Ecologically sensitive building–high performance glazed glass to
maximize daylight and views and minimize solar heat
. Elegant two story glass lobby
. 24 hour doorman
. Secure heated garage with deeded parking
. Secure access entry system for garage to maximize safety and security
. High speed elevators
. Secure elevator access from garage floors directly to unit floors to
maximize convenience and safety
. Bicycle storage
. Entire building wired for phone, cable and high speed internet access
. Fully sprinklered with central fire protection system
. The amenities floor located at the top of the building (41st floor)
features:
. Private fitness center
. Lap pool
. Media/Party room
. Landscaped sundeck
. Green roof
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The Urban Politician September 24th, 2005, 06:16 PM Is there any retail on the ground floor? It would be nice if the retail faced Fairbanks. Lack of retail on that street.
^I couldn't agree with you more. I think pretty much every highrise downtown should have ground level retail. To not do so seems silly
spyguy October 28th, 2005, 12:15 AM Looks like they updated the site again, and the lobby renderings:
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3305/600nfb3bu.png
The Urban Politician October 28th, 2005, 12:19 AM ^ You gotta love how they put the sexy blonde female figure right smack in the middle. Maybe that'll get a few extra sales center visits. It's no coincidence that they didn't place some fat guy wearing a Sox shirt there, no? :lol:
BVictor1 October 28th, 2005, 01:30 AM When I went to the opening of the sales center for 600 North Fairbanks, I took pictures of the model, but I forgot to post them.
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geoff_diamond October 28th, 2005, 03:10 AM Where's the sales center?
spyguy October 28th, 2005, 03:12 AM 610 N. Fairbanks :)
geoff_diamond October 28th, 2005, 03:15 AM lol... makes sense :)
BVictor1 January 11th, 2006, 01:31 AM I went to the sales center yesterday and I was told that a cerimonial groundbreaking will be February 28. THe sales agent said that sales were around the 50% mark (this seems to be the number all sales agents give). I am anticipating the construction of this one.
spyguy January 11th, 2006, 01:34 AM Anticipating the construction happening soon? Or just plain expecting to eventually happen? Good news either way.
The Urban Politician January 11th, 2006, 01:56 AM It's always good to hear that construction is beginning on a tower that is well-designed.
Let's hope for these as well:
The Legacy
535 N. Fairbanks (or whatever the fuck the address is)
Vetro
Library Tower (boring architecture but DAMN that block needs to be developed!)
FS--obviously
Studio Gang
300 N LaSalle
The ones mentioned above MUST all be built or my heart will be broken
nomarandlee January 11th, 2006, 02:09 AM I hope the Staybridge suites is constructed. To me that is innovative as hell.
ChicagoLover January 11th, 2006, 03:29 AM I agree. The renderings for Staybridge look great.
smurf February 3rd, 2006, 04:25 AM I looked around the forum but I couldn't find a thread about this project, so I'm starting a new one.
I was wondering if anyone has any new updates about this condo tower? Are they going to start anytime soon? How is the pre-sale going?
Maybe next weekend I'll stop by their sales office, but in the meantime I'm curious if anyone knows anything the timeframe for construction.
The developer has a website: http://www.600northfairbanks.com/
Some pics from the site:
http://www.600northfairbanks.com/_images/_building/415x400_building.jpg
UrbanSophist February 3rd, 2006, 04:35 AM Here it is :D
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=175880&page=3
spyguy February 3rd, 2006, 04:44 AM Yeah, we need to be better at not creating duplicate threads. Basically every tower either has its own individual thread or isn't important enough to warrant one and is probably stuck in a neighborhood or "other" thread.
smurf February 3rd, 2006, 04:55 AM I must be going blind or something. In all honesty, I propably spent close to an hour browsing the chicago development thread and didn't notice it.
Given that there is a developer website it seemed to me that it is a go project and thus I was quite surprised to see that there is no thread about it.
Sorry for the confusion and cheers to one more construction soon to be underway :cheers: .
smurf February 3rd, 2006, 05:04 AM Is there a way to delete this thread? Perhaps mods have the magic power to make this disappear.
kazpmk March 2nd, 2006, 06:12 AM I was told that a cerimonial groundbreaking will be February 28
Did a groundbreaking occur??
Loopy March 2nd, 2006, 08:27 AM ..
UrbanSophist March 2nd, 2006, 09:15 AM Edit: Foolish opinion. Deleted.
C'moooon... you know you wanna share it...
danthediscoman March 11th, 2006, 07:49 AM As of Monday of this week the parking lot has been fenced off and a crane is now on the site along with a backhoe which was active throughout this week...but didn't really hear anything about an official groundbreaking...kind of odd.
fairbanks March 14th, 2006, 05:29 AM The building did have an event for the "groundbreaking" for buyers and local real estate agents. The office states that 68% of the units are already sold, which is a great number given that the building has been marketed less than 6 months. They are also combining some of the one bedroom units to create larger floorplans. I think this bodes well for the building since many of the large floorplans are already sold.
wickedestcity April 12th, 2006, 08:43 PM $93M Loan Puts 227 More Streeterville Condos in Works
By Mark Ruda
Last updated: April 12, 2006 08:16am
(To read more on the debt and equity markets, click here.)
CHICAGO-Urban R2 Development and Schatz Inc. have landed a $93-million construction mortgage from Fremont Investment & Loan, which will allow them to build a 227-unit condominium building at 600 N. Fairbanks Ct. Architect Helmut Jahn returns to Chicago after a three-year absence to design his first condominium building here, a 41-story concrete, steel and glass structure.
Fremont Investment & Loan vice president David Sharp suggests Jahn’s involvement will play a role in the project’s success, as well as helping underwrite it in a Streeterville area with an abundance of units hitting the market as well as drawing boards. In addition to being three blocks west of Navy Pier, it also is a quarter-mile northwest of the site of the proposed Fordham Spire.
“It stands out from the crowd because of its architecturally significant design that is both visually and physically compelling,” Sharp says. “This contemporary, urban project will be hailed as one where art meets function.”
The condominiums, which will have floor-to-ceiling lake and city views, replaces a 87-year-old, 52,700-sf commercial building, acquired by the developers last year for $6.3 million, according to documents on file with the Cook County Recorder of Deeds office.
Chi_Coruscant April 12th, 2006, 09:53 PM The office states that 68% of the units are already sold, which is a great number given that the building has been marketed less than 6 months. Excellent new!
UrbanSophist April 12th, 2006, 11:07 PM Great architecture sells!
pflo777 April 16th, 2006, 02:41 PM any construction pics?
wheelingman April 16th, 2006, 03:27 PM Did the Chicago Tribune do a story about this tower or was it just the Sun-Times?
fairbanks May 9th, 2006, 01:58 AM Hello to all with interest in this new building!
I called the sales center recently ( I have a two bedroom under contract in the building) and they stated that ALL original two bedrooms are now sold out. They have combined units with two bedrooms available. The sales person stated that only 35 units in the building remain. I walked by the site this weekend and they have bricked up the windows in the adjacent building and have make progress with earth removal. The alley is now blocked to traffice as well. So all seems on target so far with the project.
richardsonhomebuyers June 21st, 2006, 10:59 PM They are putting the crane up right now. Can't get any pics right now, may be able to post some later.
spyguy July 27th, 2006, 07:47 PM Taken yesterday by Pherek on SSP (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2207646&postcount=1701)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3064/200607260904jb5.jpg
spyguy August 27th, 2006, 05:23 AM From yesterday by SolarWind:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8085/p8250172og2.jpg
doublestack September 28th, 2006, 08:06 AM Has anyone gone through the design selection process? If so, I'd like to get your thoughts on how the whole process is being run.
fairbanks October 4th, 2006, 05:40 AM Yes, I have been through the selection process. I feel the finishes are nice and appropriate for the building, however, it seems that they are a bit unorganized. I notice that now there are new selections that were not there when I made my choices. In addition, they really had no suggestions as far as installing extra lighting, etc. I was pretty focused on what I wanted, but someone who had no idea on what they desired would have been hard pressed to come up with choices with the "design team". They stated they could not do a wine fridge in the kitchen. In addition, changing the second bathtub to a frameless shower went from a guesstimate of $2,000 to $5,000 when they got back to me with the price. I have a NW corner two bedroom in the building and would appreciate your thoughts as well.
Thanks.
Retrograde October 14th, 2006, 09:30 AM October 13, 2006
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doublestack October 16th, 2006, 08:04 AM I too felt the selection process was unorganized and very restrictive. I didn't understand why you could only see the selections during your appointment. It would have been nice to view the selections in a showroom ahead of time because viewing the selections in person is much different than viewing them online. And then all the prices were so secretive. Does it hurt to have prices available for everyone to see?
I didn't find the design team, or more like design person, was very helpful either. She did a good job of explaining the differences between selections, but calling her the "design team" is a bit deceptive. She really made no recommendations. I heard that many people decided to go with what is shown in the sales center, and I would guess that's partly because people didn't have a chance to really see what else was available and were pressured to make decisions on the spot.
All in all, I was extremely disappointed with this process, especially since everything else has been classy and well-organized.
ardecila October 19th, 2006, 03:22 AM Woah.. it's been awhile between photo updates. I had to do a double take (or double scroll, lol).
geoff_diamond November 26th, 2006, 07:23 AM Update.
http://static.flickr.com/115/306280217_bb5c53a63a_o.jpg
xrl November 26th, 2006, 06:26 PM Sorry, these photos were taken more than a month ago, but still, better late, than never :):
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:)
spyguy November 26th, 2006, 06:37 PM I can't wait until they start installing some of the glass.
xrl November 26th, 2006, 06:44 PM I can't wait until they start installing some of the glass.
:yes: yep, me too :)
trvlr70 November 27th, 2006, 07:10 PM What are they doing to the side/facade of that ugly Holiday Inn?
wrabbit December 19th, 2006, 11:40 PM (Edit)
spyguy December 20th, 2006, 12:07 AM ^I think that is Parkview West.
wrabbit December 20th, 2006, 12:33 AM ^I think that is Parkview West.
Yup - my mistake.
Retrograde January 13th, 2007, 09:11 AM January 12, 2007
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spyguy January 13th, 2007, 09:50 AM ^Thanks. This is going to be such a nice building.
megatower January 14th, 2007, 09:16 AM nice update
i_am_hydrogen January 16th, 2007, 06:03 PM From SSP:
2. 600 North Fairbanks will be 457'-8" tall, up from our earlier figure of 450'-9". The roof height will be 457'-2".
All heights are taken from blueprints viewed today.
Retrograde February 16th, 2007, 08:02 AM February 15, 2007
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The glass is very transparent. I think this will turn out well. Unfortunately my camera's battery gave out just as I was about to take a closer picture. It drained quickly in the cold. The second photo posted is a magnified view of the first.
i_am_hydrogen February 16th, 2007, 11:52 PM The glass is really clear. From the renderings, I was expecting a slightly bluish tint to it. It looks great, though. Retro, nice work as always with these updates.
geoff_diamond February 19th, 2007, 03:31 AM The glass does look very transparent right now. I wonder if it will appear a bit more opaque once an entire floor, let's say, is enclosed and there's less light on the backside. Gonna be a beauty regardless!
CHIsentinel February 19th, 2007, 04:21 AM I really love this building; simple yet very elegant, nothing seems overdone about it.
megatower February 19th, 2007, 04:31 PM glass looks good
megatower February 19th, 2007, 04:35 PM how come there isn't that kinda dent in the back, redesign ?
i_am_hydrogen February 19th, 2007, 06:26 PM how come there isn't that kinda dent in the back, redesign ?
You can't see the dent from that angle.
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2947/600nfb1ce.png
geoff_diamond February 19th, 2007, 09:09 PM Are we still sure that we're getting a dent? I haven't been over in Streeterville for a while (at least not to the north of 600), but, from the construction shots above it certainly doesn't appear that the facade varies in plane at all on that back side.
spyguy February 19th, 2007, 11:07 PM ^No it's there. The user AdrianXSands on SSP posted this shot a few days ago:
http://a903.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/61/l_7dafad986f3657e55f866682f5f4bba6.jpg
geoff_diamond February 20th, 2007, 06:18 PM Yay!!!! Thanks Spy :))
megatower February 21st, 2007, 04:44 AM oh now i see it :D
i_am_hydrogen March 9th, 2007, 01:53 AM Taken today:
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6822/600nfairbanks1nz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1082/600nfairbanks2nn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9339/fglassuh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
spyguy March 26th, 2007, 05:21 AM Photos by kazanas16:
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BorisMolotov March 26th, 2007, 06:23 AM 11 floors left... I can't wait!
The Urban Politician March 26th, 2007, 06:28 AM That glass is looking magnifico!
UrbanSophist March 26th, 2007, 07:00 AM I haven't been to Streeterville in a really long time, and I'd totally forgotten about this project. I open this thread to see a whole new skyscraper built. That's just Chicago for ya.
danthediscoman March 31st, 2007, 11:08 PM North Facade Glass. Me Like...
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http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9074/600nfairbanksglass2je5.jpg
spyguy March 31st, 2007, 11:29 PM Those are great shots. The glass looks wonderful.
BorisMolotov April 1st, 2007, 07:14 AM Great shots! Only 10 floors left...!
Adrian Smith fan April 1st, 2007, 04:12 PM WOW, very nice glass
Chicagoago April 4th, 2007, 08:56 PM so transparent..
Retrograde April 7th, 2007, 08:41 PM April 5, 2007
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HowardL April 8th, 2007, 05:07 AM Bloody fucking amazing that one. It's genius.
danthediscoman April 8th, 2007, 05:33 AM What's up with the positioning of the glass facade on the balconies, just don't seem right?
geoff_diamond April 8th, 2007, 06:17 AM What are you referring to? The railings?
Retrograde April 8th, 2007, 06:21 AM What's up with the positioning of the glass facade on the balconies, just don't seem right?
Here's a closer view...
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5023/dsc20076copyfi2.jpg
danthediscoman April 8th, 2007, 09:41 PM Yup thats what I was talking about. They really seem odd and do not flow with the building...
i_am_hydrogen April 9th, 2007, 08:45 PM Yup thats what I was talking about. They really seem odd and do not flow with the building...
That's the way it's supposed to be. Look closely at the rendering:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3151/600nfairbanksog8.jpg
HowardL April 10th, 2007, 04:13 AM http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5023/dsc20076copyfi2.jpg
Am I missing some finer point in the detailing or are there no operable windows?
Proper floor to ceiling glass is stunning ... but it seems odd not to be able to let a little air in. There's got to be something that I'm just not noticing.
DeaconBlue April 11th, 2007, 03:42 AM http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5023/dsc20076copyfi2.jpg
Am I missing some finer point in the detailing or are there no operable windows?
Proper floor to ceiling glass is stunning ... but it seems odd not to be able to let a little air in. There's got to be something that I'm just not noticing.
There are no windows on the south or north faces of the building, I think because the balconies are inset and open into the living rooms and bedrooms. On the east and west sides, there are thin pieces of glass between some of the large panes that open up.
D
geoff_diamond April 11th, 2007, 05:02 AM I still can't get over the transparency of this glass - I'm not sure if I've ever seen anything like it on a highrise.
i_am_hydrogen April 14th, 2007, 03:42 AM Taken today:
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6097/600nfair413nb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
danthediscoman April 24th, 2007, 07:06 PM From the lakefront.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6379/1111cd0.jpg
DeaconBlue May 1st, 2007, 07:09 AM I took these pics two weekends ago
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geoff_diamond May 1st, 2007, 04:36 PM Fire at project by noted Chicago architect
By Mary Owen
Tribune staff reporter
Published April 30, 2007, 2:30 PM CDT
Chicago firefighters responded this afternoon to a report of a blaze at a Helmut Jahn-designed condominium complex under construction in the Streeterville neighborhood just off North Michigan Avenue, fire officials said.
Firefighters were called to the building, 600 North Fairbanks Court, after a fire broke out at about 1 p.m. on the 18th floor of the building, said Kevin MacGregor, a spokesman for the Chicago Fire Department. No injuries were reported. The fire was put out by 1:35 p.m., MacGregor said.
600 North Fairbanks is being developed by Chicago-based Schatz Development and was designed by Jahn, an internationally-known architect based in Chicago.
One of the fire engines en route to the fire collided with a vehicle at Clybourn Avenue and Halsted Street on the North Side around 1:15 p.m., said Chicago Police Department spokeswoman Eve Rodriguez. She said one civilian from the vehicle was taken to Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center in serious condition.
No firefighters were injured, she said. Circumstances of the crash were not immediately known.
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Retrograde May 4th, 2007, 07:56 AM May 3, 2007
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Retrograde May 22nd, 2007, 07:12 AM May 21, 2007
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i_am_hydrogen May 23rd, 2007, 02:01 AM Taken today:
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Dallas star May 23rd, 2007, 02:12 AM Great building!!!!
BorisMolotov May 23rd, 2007, 04:19 AM Hey, they're on fourty floors, too bad this things only 41.
The Urban Politician May 23rd, 2007, 06:01 AM Love this sucker.
Why aren't they cladding the garage yet?
Helmet Yawn June 2nd, 2007, 02:11 AM outstanding detailing...one of the best buildings of this current boom.
BUT
it does remind me an awful lot of Jahn's own Xerox building.
Retrograde June 9th, 2007, 06:01 PM June 8, 2007
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geoff_diamond June 11th, 2007, 02:36 AM This tower is far superior to the Xerox Center if only for the lack of fuss on the facade.
Helmet Yawn June 11th, 2007, 02:46 AM The skin is obviously far superior because glass technology has been greatly advanced in the last 28 years since Xerox was constructed, but the concept of 600 Fairbanks and the way it addresses the corner is essentially the Xerox Building with hidden balconies.
I do keep asking myself though what is this tower going to look like after people move in and start furnishing it and applying their favourite type of window treatments? From the outside, all the uniformity would go away and it could look quite chaotic. Suffice it to say it definitely won't look like an office building.
Nice talking to you!
geoff_diamond June 11th, 2007, 03:08 AM So, any tower that has a fillet on its accessible corner is, essentially, the same? Without taking formal architecture to the extreme, there are only so many "shapes" that a building's mass can take on. The resolution is all about the detailing, and this tower is far superior to Xerox in that respect. The base and crown of the two buildings also serve to differentiate them greatly.
RE: window treatments - I'm sure the condo association will have some fairly strict guidelines in place to regulate treatments and maintain the building's exterior aesthetic. Naturally, it's going to lose some of its simplicity just in the manner that any window treatments ruin an edifice as transparent as this one.
Helmet Yawn June 11th, 2007, 03:16 AM No, any tower in Chicago that Helmut Jahn has done recently with a fillet at the corner is going to look like any tower that Helmut Jahn did in Chicago 28 years ago with a fillet at the corner. It's a specific connection I'm pointing out and not negatively so. I just find it interesting is all.
I hope you're right about the conso association mandates or they better take a lot of photos before everyone moves in!!!!
DeaconBlue June 11th, 2007, 02:57 PM I am the proud owner of a two bedroom condo at 600 north fairbanks. There are built in window treatments that are mounted into the ceiling that come down and are a neutral beige color. The interior designers told me that 99% of the units selected to have them installed and that it was almost guaranteed to become a mandated standard once the condo association met. Should look great!
D
UrbanSophist June 12th, 2007, 07:08 AM ^^ Congrats!
Chiman June 16th, 2007, 07:39 PM Someone had enquired about windows that could be opened and someone else had pointed out that there were some on the east of west faces. Here’s a picture with some of them open.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1440/557247615_1476e38e32.jpg
fairbanks June 20th, 2007, 05:28 AM Hello,
I walk by the building every week. I am also an owner of a two bedroom (NW corner) in the building. I noticed on Sunday that they are installing brackets on the garage floors for the metal mesh sheeting that will be encasing the garage. I was shown a small piece of it at the sales center. They are on time for the building and said that the lower floors will be closing in Oct/Nov of this year. Thanks to all who have posted pictures of this building.
DeaconBlue June 21st, 2007, 04:10 AM I was in the sales center the other day and they said that the garage will be the last thing done, even later than most of the interiors. I guess it's because a lot of the "guts" of the building is accessed there and they want to have all that done before they clad it. Overall, they are only a month behind schedule. I got some pics from the sales person taken from the roof, I'll post them later.
D
PS, I also have a NW view!
fairbanks June 21st, 2007, 06:22 PM Hello DeaconBlue,
Thanks for the information. I was thinking they would begin installing the cladding when I saw the brackets appear.
I think that the NW view is a great choice. We will not be impacted by the proposed building across the street which looks like a mini-Mandarin Oriental Hotel design. Our tier was one of the first to sell out and it is good that we have one of the larger two bedrooms. I am sure that the smaller ones on the southwest corner are going to attempt to be flipped in the 600,000's.
I am intending on moving in and staying put for a long time.
geoff_diamond June 22nd, 2007, 02:12 AM You are all very lucky. I had the fortune of eating at P.J. Clarks last night, and just stood idle for a good twenty minutes staring at 600. It is simply breathtaking. Easily one of my favorite towers in Chicago.
ChicagoPete June 22nd, 2007, 03:08 AM Long time lurker here....
Hello Fairbanks & DeaconBlue - I'm also an owner of a NW corner unit.
DeaconBlue June 23rd, 2007, 06:19 AM Here are the SW, W and N pics from the 35th floor. I saw a NE view too but couldn't get a copy (you could see a lot more lake than I thought, which is good!). The SW view is jaw-dropping and will only get better with Trump. The concern, though, is that the new building next door and the rest of CityFront Plaza may block the view in the future. Enjoy,
D
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DeaconBlue June 23rd, 2007, 06:26 AM Here are two more pics I took 6/18/07
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BorisMolotov June 23rd, 2007, 05:29 PM This should be topping out within a few days, they're pouring the 41st flor in that picture...
DeaconBlue June 23rd, 2007, 11:43 PM It will be interesting to see how the top 4 floors look because they have a different balcony pattern.
D
spyguy June 24th, 2007, 04:14 AM Nice photos and views.
fairbanks July 5th, 2007, 04:59 AM Hello to all with interest in this building!
I walked by today and saw that they are using the same beautiful glass to encase the garage as the rest of the building. They have the lobby and two floors of the parking structure complete. I was under the assumption that they were using the metal sheeting that I saw in the sales center to enclose the garage. I did see some sheeting but only a narrow band to hide the concrete flooring from view from the side. I wonder if they are going to leave the glass as-is or are they installing the metal sheeting in back of the glass? I hope they just leave the glass alone since I think it would be great to see the cars in the garage ( like Contemporaine). There are only eleven units available in the building. A special hello to all my future neighbors who follow this site!
geoff_diamond July 8th, 2007, 06:37 AM Yum. Succulent garage.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1217/750564906_645ded2ff6_o.jpg
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Chiman July 9th, 2007, 04:51 PM Interested to see how the top is finished. This photo from yesterday looks closer to the really old rendering (back when it had the awesome garage ramp) than to the recent renderings or the salesroom model.
Note the double railing effect up top.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1230/760674813_341e72ecab.jpg
http://www.archidose.org/Blog/Jahn-Fairbanks.jpg
Helmet Yawn July 10th, 2007, 01:53 AM Nice pics, Chiman.
My namesake is definitely a pro. Let's just say this is definitely not an SRO on Clybourn.
You take any pics of 600 Lakeshore Dr. lately?
I did, but I'm not to sure how to upload them to be honest.
i_am_hydrogen July 10th, 2007, 02:48 AM 1) Go to www.imageshack.us
2) Upload the photos (one by one) from your hard drive (click browse, then host it!)
3) Copy and paste the info in the "Hotlink for Forums" field into the message window here at SSC
DeaconBlue July 10th, 2007, 04:22 AM The top four floors will have a different balcony pattern than the old renderings. The 3 right-angle corners will all be open balconies and I think it will look really cool. As for the garage, I was told that the metallic grating would be put behind the glass but perhaps it won't go all the way up. Looking forward to seeing the final product, I just wish the interiors were not already behind schedule!
D
fairbanks July 10th, 2007, 03:47 PM Hello Deaconblue,
I just got a letter through the mail stating that they are anticipating closing on my unit in Nov/Dec. I am on a lower floor, however, I would think that the interiors are not that far behind schedule unless they are waiting on supplies and/or labor.
I am very curious to see how the top of the building looks. I am SO glad that the mechanical box is masked. Right now I stare at MOMO and cannot believe the two huge boxes that just sit at the top of the building.
The metal cladding behind the garage glass will look great. If the lighting in the garage is sufficient the effect through the mesh will be great at night.
DeaconBlue July 10th, 2007, 04:32 PM I am on the 34th floor and orginally they said March, now they are saying April/May (I got the letter too). Oh well, projects like this are never on time. I'm just glad I'm not trying to flip my unit, it will be interesting to see if the market will support the prices they want...I think the mesh will look really good- I think overall the building is coming out much better than I anticipated, and I had high expectations!
I have a logistical question for you- what are you doing for shelving/storage in the bathroom? One design flaw in my unit is that the mirror doesn't open up so there is no storage and I think I'm going to have to get custom baskets build for the cabinet! Really annoying!
D
newtochicago July 10th, 2007, 04:52 PM Hello to all with interest in this building!
I walked by today and saw that they are using the same beautiful glass to encase the garage as the rest of the building. They have the lobby and two floors of the parking structure complete. I was under the assumption that they were using the metal sheeting that I saw in the sales center to enclose the garage. I did see some sheeting but only a narrow band to hide the concrete flooring from view from the side. I wonder if they are going to leave the glass as-is or are they installing the metal sheeting in back of the glass? I hope they just leave the glass alone since I think it would be great to see the cars in the garage ( like Contemporaine). There are only eleven units available in the building. A special hello to all my future neighbors who follow this site!
Hi. We just bought a south-facing 1 bedroom this weekend and were told that the garage will have glass with the metal cladding inside the glass. So you'll be able to see motion behind the glass.
newtochicago July 10th, 2007, 04:59 PM I am on the 34th floor and orginally they said March, now they are saying April/May (I got the letter too). Oh well, projects like this are never on time. I'm just glad I'm not trying to flip my unit, it will be interesting to see if the market will support the prices they want...I think the mesh will look really good- I think overall the building is coming out much better than I anticipated, and I had high expectations!
I have a logistical question for you- what are you doing for shelving/storage in the bathroom? One design flaw in my unit is that the mirror doesn't open up so there is no storage and I think I'm going to have to get custom baskets build for the cabinet! Really annoying!
D
Hi Deacon -- We're on the 34th floor too.
As for the bathroom storage, i have seen some pretty high-end medicine cabinets that are long and thin and can go on the wall. The sales center also mentioned that there are drawers that can be built into the bathroom cabinet under the sink.
When we signed the contract this weekend they told us to anticipate closing +/- April 15th and that they believe they're still on schedule for that date.
Chiman July 10th, 2007, 10:06 PM ...My namesake is definitely a pro. Let's just say this is definitely not an SRO on Clybourn....
Maybe Mr. Jahn should design an SRO project for Streeterville just to send S.O.A.R. into apoplexy. (I have to admit that I didn’t know about the building on Clybourn and Division – I’ve got to go check it out – it looks interesting.)
fairbanks July 11th, 2007, 10:05 PM Congratulations on your new purchase "newtochicago"!
The lack of a linen closet in the two bedroom "05" tier is a small issue.
I think I am going to wait to feel the space before I decide whether to get a cabinet, organize the present cabinet or both! I am excited to actually have natural light in the bathroom with the giant window. I do not intend to "flip" my unit either...I am excited to actually LIVE in the building. We are lucky our construction is on time...535 N. St. Clair is way behind schedule (they had some issue with their windows).
Did everyone pick the limestone counters for the kitchen? They look great, but I am hearing they are a bit of work to maintain.
We also need to think about what washer/dryer will fit the space. I did NOT get the one that they offered as I was hoping to find a better brand.
Helmet Yawn July 12th, 2007, 12:49 AM SOAR.....more like sore. :cool:
ardecila July 12th, 2007, 04:03 AM fairbanks - Hmm, I wonder if 600 North Fairbanks is the project that bought all of our limestone?
We're in the middle of a bathroom renovation, including a French-limestone tub countertop. The stone guys we worked with told us they sold all of their limestone to a "new downtown highrise" but 2 months later they called us back and informed us that the developers had overestimated, so some stone had become available. We had it installed promptly, and it looks great.
Maintenance is really not a problem.. from my experience, all the horror stories are extremely overblown.
newtochicago July 12th, 2007, 08:23 PM we haven't gone through the selection process yet but we are planning on going with the limestone. have been reading about it and i'm not sure it'll be that much more maintenance than granite. we'll see...
fairbanks July 14th, 2007, 05:00 AM Hello,
Thanks for the reassuring words regarding the limestone. I think that the material looked great in the sales center so I decided to go with it up the entire backsplash as well. Has anyone seen a mock-up of the hallways or lobby? The public spaces are so important to the overall quality of the building. I am also excited about the "green roof" and heated dog run. I have not seen any flip ads for the building except for a one bedroom on Craigslist. I noticed that the only "02" tier (NE corner two bedroom) that was available (on a high floor) is now pending at 690,000 and change plus parking.
Was anyone at the event on the 32nd floor that was held recently? It seems to have been a press event more than anything else. I would have loved to have seen the glass and views up close.
newtochicago July 17th, 2007, 02:10 AM Hello,
Thanks for the reassuring words regarding the limestone. I think that the material looked great in the sales center so I decided to go with it up the entire backsplash as well. Has anyone seen a mock-up of the hallways or lobby? The public spaces are so important to the overall quality of the building. I am also excited about the "green roof" and heated dog run. I have not seen any flip ads for the building except for a one bedroom on Craigslist. I noticed that the only "02" tier (NE corner two bedroom) that was available (on a high floor) is now pending at 690,000 and change plus parking.
Was anyone at the event on the 32nd floor that was held recently? It seems to have been a press event more than anything else. I would have loved to have seen the glass and views up close.
when we signed we asked about the public spaces beyond the lobby. apparently the hallway is going to have a natural colored carpeting that will have other colors in it (does that make sense?). and the doors to the apartments will be natural wood although the inside of the door will be white. other than that nothing much.
supposed to go thru selections this week where they'll apparently have more to share about the common spaces -- will let you know what we learn, if anything.
erbse July 21st, 2007, 05:44 PM ^ Any new pics? Would be interested if the cladding is finished right now :)
ardecila July 22nd, 2007, 05:16 AM Not quite yet. I'll give it another 2-3 weeks before cladding is finished.
Retrograde July 23rd, 2007, 01:49 PM July 20, 2007
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pflo777 July 24th, 2007, 04:04 PM is the building really something special?
They are printing the name of the architect on huge letters on the advertisement, and announce that its something extraordinayry, but according to the pictures, it looks pretty much the same than those towers that are being build by a lot of other architects in chicago?
Your thoughts?
Helmet Yawn July 24th, 2007, 09:42 PM Careful. Better not voice a contradictory opinion on these boards....
Actually, in this case, I would disagree. While this design is basically a copy of Jahn's own Xerox building from many years ago with balconies added, he's taken the level of detailing to a remarkable level. It deserves merit if only for that note.
As far as unit layouts, there are a lot of missteps with corner master suites instead of living/dining rooms placed there to maximize glass exposure and a lot of stacked bedrooms....but even Skybridge and Contemporaine have some questionable plan moves.
That aside, the material costs alone on this tower are far above anything that's ever been done in this residential market. The developer should be applauded as much as the architect for pushing the envelope......
Now, I will pause for someone to requote this in the text of their response and violently contradict everything I just said.:)
CHIsentinel July 24th, 2007, 10:11 PM Nope, you're pretty much right on the money..for once ;)
Flubnut July 24th, 2007, 10:13 PM Careful. Better not voice a contradictory opinion on these boards....
Hardy har har. Actually, I believe most of the regulars on this forum are fairly open to differing opinions, etc. Just be sure to explain WHY you like/dislike something. Thoughtless comments like "I hate this building", with no reasons as to why, isn't going to fly.
Regarding this particular building: Helmet makes a good point about the construction quality and materials. Kind of hard to tell from photographs, but it oozes quality. Get close to it in person and you'll notice just how "tight" and seamless everything is. A fairly simple design, I think, but extremely well executed.
wrabbit July 25th, 2007, 12:34 AM .....A fairly simple design, I think, but extremely well executed.
This is why I like the project also - first rate fit & finish. The glass alone all but looks like quartz, so clear & crystalline.
Chiman July 25th, 2007, 04:04 PM I know you guys love it, but I’ve got problems with the see-through glass – it may be pretty, but will it be comfortable to live in? (Assuming you’re not an exhibitionist.)
And what will the building look like when the residents pull down those quasi-mandatory window shades?
Reminds me of the old adage: “People who live in glass houses, shouldn’t.”
Helmet Yawn July 25th, 2007, 05:19 PM I'm glad you said that, C-man.......
Of course I'm more worried about the appearance of the backs of different furniture pieces that- last time I checked- condo associations had no control over.
It does seem that in order to preserve the clarity of this residential building, noone should ever live in it. Does that bother anyone else but me?
fairbanks July 25th, 2007, 08:10 PM Hello,
Moving in will change the look of the building for sure. As a future resident of the building I am not concerned with the amount of glass at all. I do not think anyone will really be able to discern anything going on in the unit from the ground. The surrounding highrises will be able to see across the way but that is often a problem in the city. I think that the building will look great at night with all of the light pouring out from the units. The building is an acquired taste and some will NEVER want to live in it, but that is why they build condo towers like 600 N. Lake Shore Drive.
Helmet Yawn July 25th, 2007, 09:15 PM Actually, I like 600 N. Lakeshore Drive better myself. I'm starting to understand the geometry now that the second tower is a bit taller. There's actually a lot going on there with those two buildings. But to each his own.
...at any rate, Congrats on the purchase!
MWR July 25th, 2007, 11:31 PM Actually, I like 600 N. Lakeshore Drive better myself. I'm starting to understand the geometry now that the second tower is a bit taller. There's actually a lot going on there with those two buildings. But to each his own.
...at any rate, Congrats on the purchase!
I like 600 LSD too, but I fail to understand one thing. Why would anyone buy one of the apartments that face inside between the two towers? The sliver views of the lake are not worth it!
Flubnut July 26th, 2007, 12:55 AM Why would anyone buy one of the apartments that face inside between the two towers?
There is 1 unit per floor with this layout, and they all seem to be 1-bedroom condos. I'm guessing that's an acceptable arrangement, in order to squeeze 2 full towers onto that site. And while I'd never buy something with that kind of view either, there's obviously a decent number of people willing to sacrifice the scenery for a lower price. Same thing with floor number: some people are fine living on the 10th floor of a 50+ floor high rise, just because it saves 'em money.
streetervillerealtor July 26th, 2007, 05:12 AM As a realtor in the area, there is a lot of buzz about 600 N Fairbanks. I have many an interested buyer who could not buy because they did not get in preconstruction. Unfortunately, they are not interested in 600 N LSD (I wish they were) as there are many units still available.
Just the buzz the office.
Helmet Yawn July 26th, 2007, 05:46 AM It is interesting to get a realtor's point of view. Perhaps when you get a chance, you can tell us all the interesting back-story of the multiple AIA award winning financial disaster on the near west side known as Skybridge.
wrabbit July 26th, 2007, 05:18 PM As a realtor in the area, there is a lot of buzz about 600 N Fairbanks. I have many an interested buyer who could not buy because they did not get in preconstruction. Unfortunately, they are not interested in 600 N LSD (I wish they were) as there are many units still available.....
I've had a look at the demo unit at 600 N LSD's sales center; the interiors are uninspired - lots of thin wood panelling, typical developer floorplates - not what one would expect from the more contemporary exterior. The 600 N Fairbanks interior layouts, configurations & finishes are superior - really just a different league altogether.
.....Perhaps when you get a chance, you can tell us all the interesting back-story of the multiple AIA award winning financial disaster on the near west side known as Skybridge.
Not a particularly interesting back story - the units are too large & expensive for the DINK demographic in the Near West Side.
Helmet Yawn July 26th, 2007, 06:24 PM The units at Fairbanks are superior if you're a big fan of stacked bedrooms with a master bedroom occupying the most desirable corner in the unit, thus relegating living/dining rooms to only having one glass face, and minimal operable windows basically eliminating any possibility of anything beyond the code mandated venting requirement per habitable space.
The way I see it, marketing glitz aside, name-brand architect status aside, standard finishes provided in a model unit because eveyone knows a developer makes his money on the upgrades aside, the units at 600 LSD lay out better....in my humble opinion.
I will now wait to be violently contradicted and condemned. :)
wrabbit July 26th, 2007, 07:02 PM The units at Fairbanks are superior if you're a big fan of stacked bedrooms with a master bedroom occupying the most desirable corner in the unit, thus relegating living/dining rooms to only having one glass face, and minimal operable windows basically eliminating any possibility of anything beyond the code mandated venting requirement per habitable space.
The way I see it, marketing glitz aside, name-brand architect status aside, standard finishes provided in a model unit because eveyone knows a developer makes his money on the upgrades aside, the units at 600 LSD lay out better....in my humble opinion.
I will now wait to be violently contradicted and condemned. :)
:lol: Violent contradiction - that would be contradiction with a deadly weapon? Don't worry - it's all virtual here - only ego bruises. :)
Helmet Yawn July 26th, 2007, 07:08 PM 10-4, bro.:cool:
Chiman July 26th, 2007, 09:37 PM Regarding the comment about the inside views at 600 LSD, I'm not sure the view to the south of 600 Fairbanks is going to be much better once the proposed hotel goes up between Grand and Ohio.
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Another tower for south Streeterville
Image posted by spyguy on SSP
Graves Chicago
http://www.graveshotelsresorts.com/graves-chicago.asp
Located at Ohio and Fairbanks will feature 220 Luxury guest rooms, a fine dining restaurant, a full service spa and 300 condo units. Opening is scheduled for late 2009.
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streetervillerealtor July 26th, 2007, 09:52 PM This is just what I hear in the office. Most suburban buyers to prefer 600 N LSD and Avenue East. The amount of windows concern them for a variety of reasons. I like the look of 600 N Fairbanks but I certainly don't care where my clients buy!
Helmet Yawn July 26th, 2007, 10:37 PM ..........as long as the checks clear, eh....???? :banana:
DeaconBlue July 28th, 2007, 03:17 AM This is just what I hear in the office. Most suburban buyers to prefer 600 N LSD and Avenue East. The amount of windows concern them for a variety of reasons. I like the look of 600 N Fairbanks but I certainly don't care where my clients buy!
Your clients prefer Avenue East to 600 N Fairbanks? Really? I personally think Avenue East is a stinker. As for Helmet's building, I agree that the living room should have been in the corner. I bought a two bedroom and wish the living room was in the corner, not the bedroom, but oh-well. The SW two bedrooms have the living room in the corner and have an incredible view, but I think a lot of it will end up being blocked by Cityfront plaza and the one planned for next door.
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DeaconBlue July 28th, 2007, 03:19 AM I'm glad you said that, C-man.......
Of course I'm more worried about the appearance of the backs of different furniture pieces that- last time I checked- condo associations had no control over.
It does seem that in order to preserve the clarity of this residential building, noone should ever live in it. Does that bother anyone else but me?
I'm not really that worried about furniture in the window. Do you really think that people will back up furniture to the glass? If you look at the floorplans, that really doesn't make much sense. I think it will be fine.
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pflo777 July 28th, 2007, 10:23 PM would it be possible to have some new pics?
maybe even from the inside?
fairbanks July 30th, 2007, 02:17 AM Hello,
Here are some new shots that I took. Enjoy.
http://www.chicagolooptech.com/600nfairbanks/1.jpg
http://www.chicagolooptech.com/600nfairbanks/2.jpg
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UrbanSophist July 30th, 2007, 09:19 AM If only all our new buildings had this glass.
fairbanks August 7th, 2007, 04:22 AM Below you will find some pics of the glass and garage.
fairbanks August 7th, 2007, 04:24 AM Here are some shots of the glass detailing and the garage mesh. The lobby looks to be coming along as well.
Enjoy.
http://www.chicagolooptech.com/600nfairbanks/building1.jpg
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CHIsentinel August 7th, 2007, 10:53 PM So that is an actual screen and not a frit pattern on the glass correct? (I can't see the last picture very well, but it appears as though the pattern comes down over that panel, from the angle the picture was taken so I guess it is a real screen). Excellent pictures btw fairbanks.
Flubnut August 7th, 2007, 11:15 PM yep, it's a real screen of some type. Should look especially interesting at night.
newtochicago August 8th, 2007, 01:16 AM This is just what I hear in the office. Most suburban buyers to prefer 600 N LSD and Avenue East. The amount of windows concern them for a variety of reasons. I like the look of 600 N Fairbanks but I certainly don't care where my clients buy!
personally i don't see how one could even compare 600 n lsd to 600 n fairbanks. 600 n lsd is horrid inside (and out if you ask me). cheap, ordinary finishes -- nothing special. but alas, if we are speaking of those who are used to the suburban life -- one home looking exactly like it's neighbor, etc -- i'm not really that surprised.
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newtochicago August 8th, 2007, 01:17 AM Regarding the comment about the inside views at 600 LSD, I'm not sure the view to the south of 600 Fairbanks is going to be much better once the proposed hotel goes up between Grand and Ohio.
does anyone know if this building is actually happening? last i had heard the hotel project was cancelled. please please tell me it's not getting built!
DeaconBlue August 8th, 2007, 05:36 AM Is that mesh screening the metallic backing to the parking garage or is it the window blinds in a unit?
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Chiman August 8th, 2007, 05:49 AM Here's a shot I took today of the screening in the parking area windows. Judge for yourselves...
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dropdeaded209 August 8th, 2007, 07:05 AM i think we'll need to see more than three to determine the overall aesthetic, but put me in the skeptics group for now. that glass is so beautiful, i feel like it could handle parking levels as well as living levels without any added application.
pflo777 August 8th, 2007, 11:47 AM I am not sure about that metal panels behind the class facade of the garage.
It will completely partition the buiilding into two parts:
one is the garage withte glass/metal thing, and the the residentail tower ontop of it.
Right now, it looks much better, as the building is a sleek unit.
But maybe I am wrong...
Helmet Yawn August 8th, 2007, 03:49 PM You're missing the big picture here. The garage will ultimately be the most consistent looking part of the facade with the uniformly distributed metal panel backer.
Now imagine the residential floors. Someone on these boards said the building will have predetermined mandated window screenings....but they will all be up and/or down based on the individual unit owner living within. Imagine a toothless grin. Depending on your view of Modernism, this could be a difficult thing for many people to aesthetically accept. I for one look forward to the diversity.
The whole point of this building is the idea of the membrane; the container which has activity within defining the exterior. It's a great project.
That said, for a completely different conceptual reason that I feel is also very successful, I do think that 600 Lakeshore Drive is also a great project. To say it isn't and to call people who like it 'suburban' is a little obtuse. It's like comparing an apple and an orange....but I suppose not everyone loves oranges.
Chiman August 8th, 2007, 04:54 PM To say that 600 Lake Shore is “horrid” is out of line. The interior finishes are very good for the money and there’s a wide selection. My favorite aspect is the exterior design – it appeals to my sense of taste, but “to each his own”.
600 North Fairbanks seems more philosophically focused and is a treat for those of us who admire how buildings look from the outside. (I’m not sure how occupant friendly it will be.)
I agree that the garage will be “the most consistent part of the facade”, but does the screening match the spirit of the design? If you’re going to have see-through bedrooms and master baths, you may as well expose you Audi as well!
i_am_hydrogen August 8th, 2007, 05:38 PM Now imagine the residential floors. Someone on these boards said the building will have predetermined mandated window screenings....but they will all be up and/or down based on the individual unit owner living within. Imagine a toothless grin. Depending on your view of Modernism, this could be a difficult thing for many people to aesthetically accept. I for one look forward to the diversity.
It works on 111 S. Wacker (taken by RUNFAR):
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Retrograde August 9th, 2007, 07:00 AM August 8, 2007
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DeaconBlue August 11th, 2007, 03:48 AM I hope Helmet Yawn is right about the mesh screening. I went by the building yesterday and right now I don't think I'm on board with the garage cladding. I agree that the building will dramatically be changed and be less cohesive. It's hard to imagine the finished product, though, so I'll have to give Helmet the benefit of the doubt.
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DeaconBlue August 11th, 2007, 03:52 AM I like 600 LSD, I think that they are nice towers if not anything ground breaking. I don't, however, think that the interiors were a good value at all. Carpeting and GE appliances are inappropriate for the money in my view. The price per square foot was just as much as 600 N Fairbanks but the location for day-to-day conveniences is awful and I think that they are trying to get by just on the cachet of being on Lake Shore Drive.
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DeaconBlue August 11th, 2007, 03:58 AM If any of you ever take the Ohio St. exit off of 90, this building is now the first thing you see out over the highway in the distance as you come into downtown. I'll see if I can get a pic the next time I'm there, but it's a really cool effect!
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newtochicago August 16th, 2007, 11:54 PM here are some pictures from the other night.
you'll see the cladding on the garage -- notice how you can see the lights through it. my understanding from the sales center is that the idea is to see movement behind the cladding as well as the lighting, but that the architect did not want the actual cars seen -- just the movement/lights.
they were also installing more glass on the exterior over the weekend.
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Shot with BlackBerry 8300 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=BlackBerry+8300&make=Research+In+Motion) at 2007-08-16
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Retrograde August 18th, 2007, 11:09 PM August 17, 2007
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fairbanks August 23rd, 2007, 12:49 AM It seems that they are nearly done with the glass installation. I am still wondering how things on the amenity floor will look. I noticed that they have thin glass running between the two concrete "banisters" that are at the very top of the building. The lobby seems to be coming along very well. If it is not 100 degrees this weekend, I will take some shots of the new developments.
newtochicago August 26th, 2007, 07:46 PM went by last night. looks like the drywall is up in the lobby. they were installing glass yesterday (the crane was at work) and it looks like they also installed the glass ceiling which will be above the lap pool. i also believe that the sales office will be closing at the end of the month if it's not already closed.
fairbanks August 27th, 2007, 01:00 AM Hello,
The east side of the building has nearly all of the glass complete. They continue to add glass to the top of the building on the amenities floor. I was not aware that the lap pool was going to have a glass roof, but it sounds great "newtochicago". I cannot wait to move in...I was looking at new furniture/electronics all weekend!
http://www.chicagolooptech.com/600nfairbanks/top.jpg
http://www.chicagolooptech.com/600nfairbanks/side.jpg
http://www.chicagolooptech.com/600nfairbanks/back.jpg
Lucky Lefty August 31st, 2007, 02:28 AM Hi Newtochicago.Just wanted to know where you heard there would be a glass ceiling above the lap pool. I ask because I too am a buyer in this building. Just spoke to Louise(design consultant) and she knew nothing of it. I truly hope your source was right because that would be sweet. Also, was anybody else told that the glass facade would be imported from Germany? I was an early buyer and I remembered being specifically told this. Come to find out its actually from Minneapolis. Regardless, I still love it.
Lucky Lefty August 31st, 2007, 02:46 AM BTW, thanks for the pics Fairbanks. I'm like you and can't wait to move in. I truly feel this building was a steal for the price(Although I did spend over 60k on upgrades, not that it needed it). You have a world class architect, wood floors throughout, upscale appliances, 10 ft ceilings, snairdero cabinetry all for $550/sq ft. Also, did anybody select the ipe balcony? I opted out as I plan to install cedar wood instead to compliment my white maple floors indoors. Thanks for the response in advance guys!:)
Helmet Yawn August 31st, 2007, 02:58 AM $550.00 per SF is actually quite a lot.
Lucky Lefty August 31st, 2007, 05:34 AM $550.00 per SF is actually quite a lot.
You're correct in that this a bit above average for Chicago prices(I believe most projects are in the $350-$400/ sq ft range). However, compared to higher priced, higher profile buildings, i.e. Trump, Legacy, OMP, ect., this building is truly a steal. For example, those other buildings only include wood flooring in the living areas and kitchen while providing carpeting in the bedrooms. Fairbanks, wood floors standard in all rooms. Most of the aforementioned buildings have GE appliances as standard, Fairbanks you get a Sub-Zero frig, Wolf stove, and Miele dishwasher as standard. And of course lets not forget about the lovely glass. Not that I'm biased, but is there any other building going up right now with glass this gorgeous that will have a true floor to ceiling effect when standing next to it? All the amenities are on the 41st floor so everyone can enjoy the views. The location is almost flawless. You have Fox & Obel and an upscale Dominicks in walking distance. You're two blocks away from the mag mile and two blocks away from the lake. The adjacent building is a beautiful two story building which will protect north facing views(not that I'm a NIMBY, I hate them with a passion). You have restaurants literally outside your door along with a post office. I could go on and on but I'll stop. Trust me, I did my homework. BTW, nice name!:)
streetervillerealtor August 31st, 2007, 05:04 PM I think that 600 N Fairbanks was a good deal for the location, finishes, and "prestige" factor. People are now "flipping" 1 bed 1.5 bath units at 340 Randolph (340 OTP as we realtors call it) for 650,000-725,000 plus parking. The 2 bed 2.5 bath units that sold for 699-750 from the developer are now going for 1.2 million and up!
fairbanks August 31st, 2007, 05:43 PM Hello Lucky,
Which tier are you in? I am on the northwest corner. I am very curious to see how the hallways/common areas look. I am sure that when I move in that the amenities will not all be finished but that it fine with me. Anybody else have any word on the first closings...I hear Nov/Dec in their letter, but was not sure. I did not go for the balcony upgrade..I thought the price was too high and it did not even match the dark floors that I chose!
As far as "flips"...I have already seen a couple of ads on Craigslist! LOL!
newtochicago September 1st, 2007, 12:01 AM I'm super excited -- today the crane is coming down! That's got to be a good sign.
I was in the office recently and told that the building is on track to meet the anticipated Nov closing date for the lower floors. I also saw the selections for the lobby and it's going to be nice -- clean lines, modern, simple designs.
We did not choose the wood flooring for the balcony but will probably do something after moving in. Had not heard anything about where the glass was coming from - sorry.
Oh -- and they've started to install more of the metal on the inside of the garage windows -- you can see from the east side of the building from fairbanks.
DeaconBlue September 1st, 2007, 02:22 AM I have an NW two bedroom and decided to get the flooring for the balcony (because my fiance made me!).
I got my unit pre-construction and the total price per square foot, including upgrades (but not parking) was about $540. I think that's really pretty good. If you compare it to the other top tier buildings, you are getting the same finishes for half the price. Of course, with Trump and Waterview, you can be on the 80th floor which deserves a premium, but is it really worth double?
I can't believe that 340 on the park units will go for that much. $1.2 for a two bedroom!? I hope you are right because if so I think that 600 NF is just as nice a building with a better location!
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DeaconBlue September 1st, 2007, 02:25 AM As I said, I wonder if 340 on the park will be able to hold those prices. In comparison check this out http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/rfs/407440691.html It's a unit at the Fairbanks Cityront Plaza that is on the market at the sales center for $630,000 and a flipper is offering to sell it for $550k! That doesn't bode well for investors!
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Lucky Lefty September 1st, 2007, 02:44 PM [QUOTE=fairbanks;15097893]Hello Lucky,
Which tier are you in?
Hi Fairbanks! I purhased a mid level 05 unit(two bedroom northwest). Between the 05 tier and the other two bedrooms facing northeast, I believe this was the betterchoice. I prefer skyline views over lake views due to the simple fact at night lake views are lifeless(nothing but darkness). With northwest views, you get great views of the western skyline along with views of the current most beautful building in Chicago, the Hancock. Also do you guys realize we'll be able to view the most beautiful building in the world while working out(the Spire of course). Streeterville is by far the the best central area neighborhood by far. Also Helmet, I forgot to mention the state of the art AMC movie theater which is two blocks away. Is there any other building in this price range that can compete with this?:banana:
Helmet Yawn September 1st, 2007, 05:30 PM All I said was that $550.00 per SF is pretty high....without any judgement intended.
Regardless, congrats on one & all's purchases. I hope they work out great for everyone.
Lucky Lefty September 1st, 2007, 06:41 PM All I said was that $550.00 per SF is pretty high....without any judgement intended.
Regardless, congrats on one & all's purchases. I hope they work out great for everyone.
No offense taken Helmet. I've been tracking this site for almost two years and appreciate many of your views/opinions. I'm especially in aggreance with you that most of the buildings currently going up are utter crap (maybe not your words). I agreed with almost all of your choices, you posted a few months back, regarding buildings you liked. I especially like the choice in Vancouver( I forget the name but its designed by Sir Norman Foster) and the one in Philly. Besides, how could I not like a guy named after my favorite architect:). For those of you not familiar with this man's genius, may I refer you to http://www.murphyjahn.com/english/frameset_intro.htm. Prepare to witness modern architecture at its finest. What else would you expect from a pupil of the great Mies Van Der Rohe. Its a shame we haven't recieved most of his current designs. Personally I'm more of a fan of his later works than his earlier. What do you guys think?
i_am_hydrogen September 2nd, 2007, 12:35 AM Taken today:
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newtochicago September 10th, 2007, 04:40 AM crane came down this weekend.
mesh in garage is really bright when the sunlight hits it.
and, dry wall is up in the lobby and painted.
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Applewood September 10th, 2007, 06:26 PM Wondering if and when a apartment or floor of them, might be roughed out and made available for purchasers to visit, to get some feel for what they are acquiring?
fairbanks September 11th, 2007, 04:31 AM Hello,
I do not know if all of the purchasers on the thread have received a letter, but this weekend I was notified that I would be closing anywhere from Oct 15th to Nov 9th. This was earlier than I had expected and I am thrilled. I am in the "05" tier on the 15th floor. They said that the 41st floor will not be done until "spring 08" and that they are setting up a special arrangement with Holmes Place so we will not have to pay their initiation fee. The letter also stated that the inspection would occur anywhere from two weeks to two days prior to closing. This is the ONLY time that you can see your unit according to the letter, so I do not think there will be any sort of preview for buyers. However, if someone from the forum has an 05 or 02 and wants to see the layout/finishes or we have already been corresponding privately feel free to drop a line if you want to check out the unit after I close. In other news there are three flips already in the building. A one bedroom 1808 for 459,000 plus 50 for parking. #2705 for 649,000 plus 50,000 for parking. And a penthouse for 2.4million plus. I will keep folks abreast of any others that I track down.
DeaconBlue September 11th, 2007, 04:53 AM I'm curious, where did you find the flippers postings? I have been watching Craig's List and haven't found any. Thanks for the offer to show your place, I'm in 3405 and may be interested in checking it out sometime. Good luck with the move!
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streetervillerealtor September 11th, 2007, 03:27 PM Flips are listed by agents on the MLS...."SALE IS SUBJECT TO ORIGINAL CLOSING."
streetervillerealtor September 11th, 2007, 03:29 PM I seriously doubt there will be any sort of model in the building itself. The building is virtually sold out so no need. Once closings begin, have your agent take you to see some of the resales.
newtochicago September 12th, 2007, 05:10 AM hi. here are some more pictures taken today. lots of metal in the garage up now. also see the "angle" portion of the north side of the bldg -- looks neat.
it's good to hear that closings will start in october -- very exciting!
what is holmes place?
deacon -- we're on 34 too so look forward to meeting you.
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fairbanks September 14th, 2007, 07:15 PM Hello,
Holmes Place is the fitness club at RiverEast. It is a European chain that is very nice. Chicago is their first outpost in the States. The monthly fee is cheap, around $35 or so.
ChgoLvr83 September 15th, 2007, 03:40 AM Nothing to add other than to say this tower is pure class.
The Urban Politician September 15th, 2007, 04:51 AM ^ I'll have to agree.
Pardon the yelling, but:
this is a work of art
mozartt September 21st, 2007, 05:44 AM Glass, concrete and steel join in an innovative structure for people who appreciate both fine design and exquisite engineering.
danthediscoman September 21st, 2007, 07:19 AM ^ PLEASE BAN!
BVictor1 September 21st, 2007, 10:11 PM From 09/18/07
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/09/561109.jpg
From 09/20/07
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/09/561112.jpg
Reflection of the structure in a puddle
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/09/561120.jpg
Applewood September 22nd, 2007, 07:39 PM I enjoy such great pics because I only get to the city every couple of weeks to see progress at 600. Looking at these, still hard to believe that some people expect closings in late Oct or early Nov. We're on 23, and they've indicated Jan./Feb. -- also seems like a longshot.
geoff_diamond September 23rd, 2007, 06:21 AM Well, the perf. panels in the garage don't seem too horribly bad until the sunlight hits them. Then it's pure disaster :(.
Applewood September 23rd, 2007, 06:16 PM As the garage screening panels, even if bright in the sun, will be uniform, it should be less objectionable than seeing rows of car hoods, roofs and garage lighting.
Helmet Yawn September 23rd, 2007, 07:38 PM I love this project. It is a great building by one of the star architects of our generation. I say that first and foremost because I am quite certain that the next couple of paragraphs will be copied and taken out of context by several of you in the posts to follow.
It's just that sometimes I get the sense that a lot of you would say if Helmut Jahn suggested hanging raw meat behind the parking lot glass, you would immediately stamp it artistic and inspired. Critique works best when it is purely objective and not political.
Keep this in mind when ultimately judging this project. They completely blew off the City of Chicago's energy code which was adopted well before they went in for permit and because it was a Helmut Jahn building, they got away with it.
To architects, codes and rules in general are made to be pushed. But the enegry code should not be one of them. If SCB, Destefano, P/H, and even SOM can figure out a way to recognize the importance of it and respect its parameters, then so too should Helmut Jahn.
newtochicago September 23rd, 2007, 07:58 PM I love this project. It is a great building by one of the star architects of our generation. I say that first and foremost because I am quite certain that the next couple of paragraphs will be copied and taken out of context by several of you in the posts to follow.
It's just that sometimes I get the sense that a lot of you would say if Helmut Jahn suggested hanging raw meat behind the parking lot glass, you would immediately stamp it artistic and inspired. Critique works best when it is purely objective and not political.
Keep this in mind when ultimately judging this project. They completely blew off the City of Chicago's energy code which was adopted well before they went in for permit and because it was a Helmut Jahn building, they got away with it.
To architects, codes and rules in general are made to be pushed. But the enegry code should not be one of them. If SCB, Destefano, P/H, and even SOM can figure out a way to recognize the importance of it and respect its parameters, then so too should Helmut Jahn.
hi mr yawn - can you elaborate on the energy code and what you're referring to please? thanks.
Retrograde September 26th, 2007, 08:25 AM September 25, 2007
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6797/untitled1xy6.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2222/dsc0055lp5.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/180/dsc0061tl5.jpg
Chiman September 26th, 2007, 02:45 PM [QUOTE=Retrograde;15561521]September 25, 2007
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2222/dsc0055lp5.jpg
Great honest shot of what this building really looks like.
Honestly, if you didn't know that it was designed by a super-star architect, would you think this is that special? The confusion at the top and the silver mesh garage don't cry out great design to me.
Helmet Yawn September 26th, 2007, 03:50 PM Nice pic....kind of like a celebrity mugshot.
I think the best way to experience this building is up close. It's all about the details.....unfortunately 99% of the general public won't get any closer than this pic....which begs the question: should the parts make up the whole in a high rise or should the building start from the general form and work back towards the specific?
jpIllInoIs September 26th, 2007, 04:34 PM ^^The top is not finished yet! From what I've seen the top looks great. I do concur with your evaluation of the silver base however.
geoff_diamond September 27th, 2007, 05:56 PM I actually don't hate the perf. panels in the garage as much as I thought I would. The glass is reflective enough, in front of them, that they still read as glazed. I might feel differently the next time I head over to the site in person.
fairbanks September 27th, 2007, 10:14 PM Hello,
I noticed that Waldorf Hotels announced a new project near River East. It could be the lot right next to Dominicks, no exact address was given.....100 stories! The design looks like the Spire, but instead of a corkscrew, it is the end of a suture needle!....about 300 hotel units...350 condos....800/sq foot starting price.
I think that the garage will look great at night with the changing lights. I am more interested in the lobby! I see that they installed the mailboxes in the southwest part of the lobby...very visible from the street. I am waiting every day for my closing notice....! yes, I am eager and pathetic!
Another flip on the MLS..and the FIRST three bedroom...
19th floor listed for 1,149,000 PLUS 70,000 for parking.
i_am_hydrogen September 27th, 2007, 10:17 PM Hello,
I noticed that Waldorf Hotels announced a new project near River East. It could be the lot right next to Dominicks, no exact address was given.....100 stories! The design looks like the Spire, but instead of a corkscrew, it is the end of a suture needle!....about 300 hotel units...350 condos....800/sq foot starting price.
We already have a thread on that project:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=528574
DeaconBlue September 28th, 2007, 02:04 PM I went by 600 NF last night around dusk, and what's interesting is that you can barely see the mesh in the garage when you are within a block of the building. Depending on the light, this building looks really different throughout the day.
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Chiman September 28th, 2007, 02:50 PM RE: my comments about the top: It's not finished, so maybe it will change, but some early renderings (ie the ones of the first page of this thread) show the top fully glassed in. Also the salesroom model shows glass there.
Later renderings show a few voids in the top. Looks like the actual building has some glassless holes. Just me, maybe, but I liked the sleeker original look better.
Check out the change:
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2947/600nfb1ce.png
http://www.600northfairbanks.com/_images/_building/415x400_building.jpg
newtochicago September 28th, 2007, 03:50 PM RE: my comments about the top: It's not finished, so maybe it will change, but some early renderings (ie the ones of the first page of this thread) show the top fully glassed in. Also the salesroom model shows glass there.
Later renderings show a few voids in the top. Looks like the actual building has some glassless holes. Just me, maybe, but I liked the sleeker original look better.
if i remember correctly, we were told that the top would have a glass "wall" to act as a wind-guard around the sun deck. only time will tell...
newtochicago October 1st, 2007, 03:07 AM walked by today and walking west from the lake, you can now see how the top level will be. appears that there will be a glass wall, then open space, all topped off by the steel/glass "frame" that we now see.
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