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Þróndeimr January 24th, 2006, 09:10 PM Planning windmills in Leksvik and Rissa
Statkraft will tomorrow hold a meeting with over 100 owners and the local authority of Leksvik and Rissa to inform of a planned windmillpark in Leksvik and Rissa. The planning is at its earliest stage, and they do not know if these areas is good enough for a windmillpark. A windmillpark consisting of 5-7 windmills is planned in Korpheia, Leksvik or south/ southwest of Olsøyheia in Rissa.
Windmills in Korpheia, Leksvik might look like this in 10 years.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Wingmills1.jpg
Þróndeimr January 25th, 2006, 09:18 PM Sandnes Indre Havn
Sandnes Indre Havn will be rebuilt from an abonded shipping yard to modern residential and office areas. The total area to be reconstructed is at 110 daa, and will contain nearly 700 apartments and vast space of office and cultural property. Signatur Arkitekter (Rica Forum Hotel/ Viking Stadion) is behind this proposal.
http://dev.klapp.no/sentrumsprosjekter/bilder/18_plan.jpg
http://www.signark.no/pages/reg/reg0101.jpg
http://www.signark.no/pages/reg/reg0102.jpg
http://www.signark.no/pages/reg/reg0103.jpg
http://www.signark.no/pages/reg/reg0104.jpg
http://www.signark.no/pages/reg/reg0105.jpg
Þróndeimr January 25th, 2006, 09:59 PM Langeland Gård
Langeland - Hordaland
A small residential project in Langeland (close to Bergen) with 16 houses/ 24 apartments. Link Arkiteker is the architect firm behind the project which started construction in late 2004. First apartment will be finished 1 quarter of 2006, while the whole project will be completed in 2007.
PDF map (2MB) (http://www.terranor.com/pdf/illustrasjonsplan_Langeland_03_11_04.pdf)
http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/2362/langelandgaard18qg.jpg
Þróndeimr February 6th, 2006, 08:56 PM Zakariasdammen Hotel
The proposed hotel on topp of Zakariasdammen in Tafjord might now finally be realised. New drawnings has been made from the architect firm Snøhetta, and the businessman Arthur Buchardt is now a potensial owner of the hotel and gallery.
The hotel will be built inside the dam, 96m above the river and with a large lake on the other side of the dam. This hotel will be really spectacular, but expencive sais developer of the project. There is also planns of building a museum or a gallery inside. The dam was built in 1967 and is 96m tall.
http://www.kulturnett.no/visbilde?id=T11004403&type=temabilde
Þróndeimr February 10th, 2006, 12:17 PM Wish to rebuilt Hotel Hardanger
A group is now planning to rebuilt the famous Hotel Hardanger in Odda. The hotel, built of wood was the largest in Europe to 1977, when it was demolished. The hotel was famous in its age, and the planns is to rebuilt a exact same copy of the building in downtown Odda. But the proejct will become extremly expencive, and that might be a problem.
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00239/Hardanger_hotell_239892a.jpg
Spearman February 10th, 2006, 02:02 PM Demolished? Why?
Þróndeimr February 10th, 2006, 03:28 PM Demolished? Why?
Well, i am not exactly sure. But it sais in a article it was a scandal that the building was demolished. It was built in the 19th century as Odda city hall, and was also a hotel, where yearly tourists as Emperor Wilhelm used to stay in.
I think they demolished the buildings of industrial planns, which was stronger than ever in the 60s and 70s, and as we know they demolished hundreds of historically beautiful and important buildings in the 60s and 70s. The area where this hotel used to stand is today parking lots and ugly factories at the harbour of Odda.
So it would be a great idea to rebuilt that fantastic building. :)
But i hear Odda is in some kind of "depression", and many have hard to believe that its any used to even think of building the hotel. :(
kjetilab February 23rd, 2006, 10:24 AM Ok. The plans for a 80 metre hotel on Holmen was scrapped by the developer, but today new plans for a 28. story 90 metres tall hotel was announced. This time next to the newly erected Husbanken building in the city center.
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/755/hotelldrammen6fo.jpg
The hotel looks really nice and the Mayor is exited of course, as he was last time..
If everything proceeds as planned the construction can start next year.
The location is not so spectacular this time, but but it will give Strømsø a really nice feel to it :)
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2304/plass9yr.gif
This is the lot planned to host the hotel.
Þróndeimr February 23rd, 2006, 12:02 PM Great news, though the tower do not look that spectacular, but the Holmennokken tower did not look very spectacular either. We need some architect which can propose a tower which is really spectacular, something different then all other high-rise buildings in Norway which is still nothing to boast about.
I am not sure which chances this building have to get approved, its just month ago since a more spectacular and, in my opinion, better proposal was declined in Drammen.
kjetilab February 23rd, 2006, 12:15 PM But this one is not planned on a recreational area, but on top of a planned parking garage, and on Holmennokken it was the developer that eventually dropped the plans. I'm not to optimistic, but the possibilities are there. I would give it a 33% chance of beeing approved. If it's built is another matter...
Spearman February 23rd, 2006, 02:03 PM But this one is not planned on a recreational area, but on top of a planned parking garage, and on Holmennokken it was the developer that eventually dropped the plans. I'm not to optimistic, but the possibilities are there. I would give it a 33% chance of beeing approved. If it's built is another matter...
You never know. An optimistic mayor always helps. Besides, with Drammen's "Harry" reputation, maybe there aren't so many self deluding nimbys of the "we are SO historic, we can't build anything that isn't pathetic and invisible" type.
Anyway, this is great news. If they just keep enough of those proposals coming, they're bound to get a few of them built.
Also, this shows that there is optimism about Drammens future. That is good too.
Þróndeimr February 24th, 2006, 05:45 PM Levanger Fjordhotell
Levanger - Nord Trøndelag
A 15 story tall building has been proposed in Levanger, Nord Trøndelag. The building is going to contain a 8 000sqm large hotel, 48 apartments and a 2 800sqm large cultural and retail section. Its the architect Kjell Kosberg (Rica Seilet, Molde Stadion) which is behind the proposal. Several investors is interested, and the local authorities is very positive to the planns.
The hotell is planned in a new residential area at the old harbour close to downtown Levanger. This area will when finished contain around 420 apartments and some area with business development.
http://tsimg.no.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Avis=TS&Dato=20060224&Kategori=NYHETER02&Lopenr=102240093&Ref=AR&MaxW=580
http://www.levanger.kommune.no/prosjekt/havna/2005/montasje_1000.jpg
kjetilab February 24th, 2006, 05:53 PM Sweeet! Strange to see such large hotel projects in such small places. Must be the Rica Seilet effect spreading across the county:)
Þróndeimr February 24th, 2006, 06:04 PM Sweeet! Strange to see such large hotel projects in such small places. Must be the Rica Seilet effect spreading across the county:)
yeah, its a great proposal! The location is so perfect though the city is very small (8 411 inhabitants), and its about 50m from another proposed 14 story tall residential building. That proposal is also a Kjell Kosberg proposal, so it looks like he is dreaming of a little skyline there!
A little Levanger skyline rendering by me:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/LevangerSkyline.jpg
NorthStar77 February 25th, 2006, 11:29 AM That is incredible! With all these highrise-proposals, maybe we should make a "all highrises under construction/proposed in Norway"-thread, to get a better overview.
Þróndeimr February 25th, 2006, 11:50 AM That is incredible! With all these highrise-proposals, maybe we should make a "all highrises under construction/proposed in Norway"-thread, to get a better overview.
I have been making some kind of overview in the first and second post in this thread form a while now, where you sec find the complete overview of under construction, approved, and proposed buildings. :)
NorthStar77 February 25th, 2006, 12:42 PM ^ ohh, that is wonderfull!! Great work there!! I haven't seen the first post for ages. Btwm I think PWC is under construction now, only groundwork though.
Þróndeimr February 25th, 2006, 02:12 PM ^ ohh, that is wonderfull!! Great work there!! I haven't seen the first post for ages. Btwm I think PWC is under construction now, only groundwork though.
I know, gonna move it to 'under construction' very soon. :)
kjetilab February 25th, 2006, 02:16 PM Yes, PWC is under construction, sort of. Excavation work at least... (I got myself some copies of the blueprints yesterday). Currently no blueprints for Helsfyr Atrium, so I'm in doubt about what's going on up there..
Been a while since I last time looked at the first page of this tread, but it looks really professional. (Btw, the link to the newest hotel proposal in Drammen is wrong)
Þróndeimr February 25th, 2006, 02:19 PM Been a while since I last time looked at the first page of this tread, but it looks really professional. (Btw, the link to the newest hotel proposal in Drammen is wrong)
Working on it, i kinda mixed up some buildings, so the hotel was linked on Levanger sementsilo! :D
Þróndeimr February 27th, 2006, 10:54 PM Horisont construction update
Trondheim - Sør Trøndelag
The construction of Horisont is about to began. Demolishion of existing building is well under way, so i guess we will see the first part of the building comming up over the next month. The construction of the 47m/ 15 floor tall residential building was supose to start in january, but as always there is a small delay of some months before construction start. But here are two images from the future site of the next high-rise building in Trondheim.
Images from 27th february (today).
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Trondheim/DSCN1246small.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Trondheim/DSCN1291small.jpg
kjetilab February 28th, 2006, 06:31 PM Hardangerbrua was today approved by the Norwegian parliament.
The bridge will be the longest and tallest suspention bridge in Norway with a main span of 1310 metres(30 metres longer than Golden Gate bridge) ant the towers will be 186 metres tall. Construction is to start in 2007.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9039/bruluftstor0qy.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1733/frabusidastor3ri.jpg
In the same session the parliament also approved construction of a city tramline in Bergen, see more here: http://www.bybane.no/
skog March 2nd, 2006, 11:30 AM I really dont like that bridge very much. While the city of Oslo is choking under the weight of its own traffic,the roads are getting more and more congested. And public transport sucks. It is more expensive to take the bus in Oslo than driving a car alone, if you don't factor in the toll booths.
Some of the political parties even wanted to build "environmental tunnels" along with that bridge so that any rise in traffic would'nt disturb the local reindeer on the mountain.
AND, the bridge will have its own bicycle path. How about that?
Meanwhile, Oslo has been refused funds to hold the skiing world cup in 2010, bechause the government will only give 20 mill NOK to maintain the Holmenkollen skiing arena, that also happens to be the biggest tourist attraction in the country.
kjetilab March 2nd, 2006, 12:14 PM I belive they are building a rather expensive tunnel below Bjørvika at the moment, and there are several other large road construcion projects in Oslo and it's souroundings. If nothing was to be built in the rural part of Norway before the traffic was running smothly in the cities nothing would have been built ever outside Oslo, Bergen and Drammen.
AND, the bridge will have its own bicycle path. How about that?
Isn't it nice that also pedestrians can cross the bridge? Most bridges have walkways on at least one side. Don't think the bicycle path is making the bridge a lot more expensive..
And I can't see how the construction of Hardangerbrua have anything to do with Holmenkollbakken, since the bridge is to be paid for by the use of a toll booth.
Þróndeimr March 2nd, 2006, 06:58 PM I do not like the bridge much either. Its needed, but the design of the bridge looks like to be from the 60s. The tourists who comes to Norway and sees the beautiful Hardangerfjorden will not be impressed with with that bridge, which is supose to be one of the biggest in the world.
Btw, does anyone have some kind of synopsis over granting of money to roads (money each inhabitant in each counties or communes)?
Because that would probably explain if its the rural or the cities which gets more money to roads in Norway.
NorthStar77 March 3rd, 2006, 09:00 AM This shows all cost of maintance, public transport incuded. Not exactly what you were looking for, but still.
http://www.ssb.no/emner/10/12/samf_kostra/fig-2005-07-05-01.gif
It is impossible to build enough roads in Oslo to eliminate congestion. It is most impostant imo to improve public transport, making it more accessible, cheaper, reliable and faster, and to make sure that new apartments houses are built near public transport.
That beeing said, I think that eastern and southern Norway have suffered for too long with utdated roads, on expense of roads, bridges and tunnels being built to small islands and villages in western Norway in particular(we can thank former transport minister Kjell Opseth for much of that :bash: ). Take Drammen as an example. One of the most trafficated roads in Norway, E-18 through Drammen is only now beeing built into 4 lanes. This piece of road has made the weekend abit bitter for countless of people for several years. Just thinking of driving there on our way to Kristiansand on friday and back on sunday, is enough to not wanting to go. And if we follow E-18 further south, the standard some places is worse than on most regular national roads!
skog March 4th, 2006, 01:01 AM I belive they are building a rather expensive tunnel below Bjørvika at the moment, and there are several other large road construcion projects in Oslo and it's souroundings. If nothing was to be built in the rural part of Norway before the traffic was running smothly in the cities nothing would have been built ever outside Oslo, Bergen and Drammen.
I regard that tunnel a part of national planning, and i dont think Oslo should have to pay a dime to make it. It should be completely payed for by the state. A long time ago, somone decided that if you wanted to drive from anywhere north of Oslo, to anywhere southwest of Oslo, you would have to pass right thru the city center. This has been a horrible idea, and its only right that the state set things right. In the old days, all traffic between mid/northern Norway and southern Norway passed only a few meters from the walls of the Oslo city hall, but festningstunellen changed that thankfully.
Isn't it nice that also pedestrians can cross the bridge? Most bridges have walkways on at least one side. Don't think the bicycle path is making the bridge a lot more expensive..
The way i read it, it seemed like there would be a separate bicycle path along with the sidewalk. This bridge is being built in a place where no-one lives. One sidewalk is enough.
And I can't see how the construction of Hardangerbrua have anything to do with Holmenkollbakken, since the bridge is to be paid for by the use of a toll booth.
Is the bridge 100% financed by toll booths?
Either way i wanted to illustrate how badly prioritised Oslo and its surroundings is, as opposed to other places.
NorthStars statistic actually confirms my suspicion. Oslo is little above average, but look at Akershus. All major access roads to Oslo pass thru Akershus, and they are badly in need of expansion. Also look at Vestfold, where the largest amount of traffic deaths are. People crash and die in large numbers on the single-lane roads down there, and it pisses me off, bechause it is a completely useless waste of life. And time, bechause speed and mobility is incredibly low compared to dual carriageway roads.
No surprise either that the four counties on top are the three in the north, plus Sogn og Fjordane, a county that is basically just subsidised and payed for by almost all other citizens.
Also note that the counties of Trondheim and Bergen are below average.
NorthStar77 March 14th, 2006, 11:59 AM Skanska will build a shoppingmall inside quarter 38 in Kristiansand for 317 million NOK (40 million euro). The facade will be mostly intact, it seems. 34.000 sqmeters will be built/rebuilt.
http://bygg.no/ImageResizeCache/0b66d788bb697ea45f2febf8fa7cce85.jpg
http://bygg.no/news/newsshow.asp?AreaID=1&NewsID=18928
Þróndeimr March 16th, 2006, 03:47 PM Proposing Trondheims tallest high-rise building
Trondheim - Sør Trøndelag
A 17-floor tall high-rise building has been proposed in the last free plot in Nedre Elvehavn close to downtown Trondheim. The building will be over 50m, and will be the tallest in Trondheim. Kristin Jarmund Arkitektkontor is the architect, and hope for construction start if approval the spring 2007. The tower will contain offices and apartments, and will be situated next to Elvehavn Brygge, a clauster of 12 buildings around 7-9 floor which is currently under construction.
The plot called Sirkeltomten is the best high-rise friendly plot in downtown Trondheim. But i guess we will see large opposition from the nabours.
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00640/elvehavnHUS_2_640344b.jpg
skog March 17th, 2006, 11:34 AM Fredrikstad's football team are planning to build a new stadium on the property of an old factory. They badly need one.
http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1142505282.88137.gif
http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1142505336.60691.gif
http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1142505327.82942.gif
http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1142505307.27927.gif
This is what it looks like today. They will use the old factory halls to the left and right as terraces, they are just the right length apart.
http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1142505359.7664.gif
NorthStar77 March 17th, 2006, 11:45 AM http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00640/elvehavnHUS_2_640344b.jpg
In my opinion it looks too dark, and square'ish, not sure if this fits Trondheim, and surely public opinion will be strongly against this.
Þróndeimr March 17th, 2006, 11:56 AM In my opinion it looks too dark, and square'ish, not sure if this fits Trondheim, and surely public opinion will be strongly against this.
I completly agree. I am for high-rise there, but this building do not look anything special, not even nice. I hope they present some more renders of the tower soon.
Þróndeimr March 19th, 2006, 04:32 PM 150 apartments in Tjensvoll
Stavanger - Rogaland
The development firm Otium AS has proposed to demolish the Scandic Hotel, and built 150 apartments in 5 buildings. The buildings will be 4, 6, 8, 10 and 12 floors tall, and the architect is Brandsberg-Dahls Arkitektkontor AS.
http://web3.aftenbladet.no/multimedia/archive/00056/ver2_blokker_scandic_56299a.jpg
Þróndeimr March 21st, 2006, 05:23 PM Horisont on hold
The chief administrative officer in Sør-Trøndelag has put Horiont on hold. 80% of the apartments has been sold, and the ground construction is 50% done, however today it was put on hold. Massive protests from nabours with over 2000 signatures in two complainments cases need to be treated. They will come with a decission this week.
Horisont might become the 24th high-rise in Trondheim with its 15 floors and 47m. The building was approved in december 2004, and construction was supose to start in january 2006, but has already been delayed 3 months. There are 73 apartments in the tower, in which 80% is sold.
This case looks very familiar with the approved Ørnen in Bergen which is also on hold after the chief administrative officer reacted uppon large resistance of a 12 story building earlier this year. That building was declined after similar case, even though all apartments was already sold.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Horisont1.jpg
Horisont is situated on the roof of a mall with 20 stores in Valentinlyst, Trondheim. This building will merge with the 6 other high-rise buildings in the complex.
:ohno: :bash:
kjetilab March 21st, 2006, 11:13 PM That is soo sad, but maybe not very unexpected..
Þróndeimr March 24th, 2006, 03:06 PM Svalbard Cultural Center
Longyearbyen - Svalbard
L2 Arkitekter AS from Oslo has won the architect competition to a new cultural center in Longyearbyen, Svalbard. The center has a simple architectural design which deliberate the historic industrial adventure in Longyearbyen and on Svalbard. The building will be built of wood, as all other buildings in Svalbard.
http://www.arkitektnytt.no/images/crop/svalbardl2.jpg
Þróndeimr March 27th, 2006, 09:56 PM Horisont declined
Trondheim - Sør Trøndelag
Horisont was, as i've stated before, approved in december 2004. They sold 80% of the apartements, and started demolishion of the bank where the 47m tall high-rise building will be built. However, today the chief administrative officer declined Horisont's regulation plan. That do not mean that Horisont never will be built, but they need to propose it again with some changes. So we probably need to wait two to three years before the building starts construction, if they approve it.
So Horisont has been reduced to a proposal yet again, 5 years after they first proposed the building. "This is a great victory" sais the leader for the opposition group, and continues to say they are protecting the people in this nabourhood against heartless developers.
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:bleep: :mad2: :mad2: wallbash:
I just get so upset when nimbys like those actually say something like that, and even manage to halt a project approved and under construction. I can't understand that 2 000 people living in those 6 high-rise buildings is so ego not letting a new tower, much nicer one been built. It ruines the developments, and runies the 55 buyers of 55 apartments which was already sold. Damit...
NorthStar77 March 28th, 2006, 08:42 AM That is sad news. Although the building was nothing special, I think the locals have shot themselves in the foot by doing this, because it would probably make the area more popular.
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Euroterminalen
Kristiansand
Winner of the tender for a new combined traffic-hub for trains, busses and ferries in downtown Kristiansand, was announced today. The winner is L2 Arkitekter AS and Opsal og Gabrielsen AS, with their proposal "Byparken"(english: "the city park"). The proposal contains 242 aparments in 10 buildings, the tallest beeing 12 floors. The earlier proposed, and much debated hotel tower on 25 floors(just called "babels tower" by the conservative locals) has been rejected. There will be 90 shops in a shopping-mall that will be camuflaged by a "carpet of grass". There will also be 850 parkingplaces below ground.
http://www.nrk.no/img/581722.jpeg
Other proposals: "HUB" from LPO arkitektur & design AS
http://www.nrk.no/img/581723.jpeg
"Quadriga" from Narud-Stokke-Wiig Sivilarkitekter AS
http://www.nrk.no/img/581725.jpeg
Simply "Euroterminalen" from Arkitektkontoret Kari Nissen Brodtkorb
http://www.nrk.no/img/581728.jpeg
sources:
http://www.fedrelandsvennen.no/nyheter/kristiansand/article350656.ece
http://www3.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/nrk_sorlandet/5576529.html
Þróndeimr March 29th, 2006, 10:49 AM Good to hear something from that project again. It looks nice, though i think it should have been exploited more. The site is so central and important, and as far as i can see it looks like there is a lot of space that can be used for something better than a harbour and parking lots. But a shopping mall under a carpet of grass sound like a interesting idea. :)
NorthStar77 March 29th, 2006, 10:59 AM Good to hear something from that project again. It looks nice, though i think it should have been exploited more. The site is so central and important, and as far as i can see it looks like there is a lot of space that can be used for something better than a harbour and parking lots. But a shopping mall under a carpet of grass sound like a interesting idea. :)
Some of that open space is for car queing up for entering the ferry, not much you can do about that. But I agree, it looks abit too spacious.
Spearman March 29th, 2006, 11:22 AM Horisont declined
Trondheim - Sør Trøndelag
Horisont was, as i've stated before, approved in december 2004. They sold 80% of the apartements, and started demolishion of the bank where the 47m tall high-rise building will be built. However, today the chief administrative officer declined Horisont's regulation plan. That do not mean that Horisont never will be built, but they need to propose it again with some changes. So we probably need to wait two to three years before the building starts construction, if they approve it.
So Horisont has been reduced to a proposal yet again, 5 years after they first proposed the building. "This is a great victory" sais the leader for the opposition group, and continues to say they are protecting the people in this nabourhood against heartless developers.
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:bleep: :mad2: :mad2: :wallbash:
I just get so upset when nimbys like those actually say something like that, and even manage to halt a project approved and under construction. I can't understand that 2 000 people living in those 6 high-rise buildings is so ego not letting a new tower, much nicer one been built. It ruines the developments, and runies the 55 buyers of 55 apartments which was already sold. Damit...
It speaks volumes about just how little integrity that lives in the average politician when they can retroactively change building permits like that. And they want to know why they're met with so much contempt... :ohno:
Þróndeimr March 29th, 2006, 02:39 PM Some of that open space is for car queing up for entering the ferry, not much you can do about that. But I agree, it looks abit too spacious.
Yeah, well put the car queing under ground all the way to the sea, would look better, but thats something they don't want to, or have finance to. :)
NorthStar77 March 29th, 2006, 03:01 PM ^that would be very expensive, and has it ever been done before? I imagine there will be big traffic chaos too when hundreds of cars, caravans and semi-trailers drives up and down in an underground parking-facility.
Þróndeimr March 29th, 2006, 03:53 PM ^that would be very expensive, and has it ever been done before? I imagine there will be big traffic chaos too when hundreds of cars, caravans and semi-trailers drives up and down in an underground parking-facility.
Its never been done, but im not sure if anybody has actually done much about the idea, but its pretty obvious that its far more expencive, but it would be actually interesting to see some idea's and proposals about it, because it could be a solution for all those huge ugly and far more polluted parking and car queings in whole Norway.
jorgen March 31st, 2006, 02:30 PM Trondheim:
Leangen Travbane (horse racing) plans, with a 10 storey hotel in the middle, maybe with a restaurant on top:
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00644/leang_2_644121b.jpg
Article only in norwegian:
http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article642398.ece
Þróndeimr April 3rd, 2006, 07:01 PM Talks resume in bid to end construction strike
More than 16,000 construction workers in 730 companies went out on strike over the weekend, bringing scores of building projects in Norway to a halt. Negotiations resumed, though, on Monday.
Talks broke off late Friday between the union, Fellesforbundet, and the Federation of Norwegian Construction Industries (Byggenæringens Landsforening, BNL.) BNL is the main organization representing building material manufacturers, craftsman's and civil engineering enterprises in Norway, and also comprises such trade associations as those representing Norwegian contractors, homebuilders and plumbers.
The two sides resumed talks Monday after national mediator Geir Engebretsen intervened. Engebretsen believes there are grounds for continued negotiations to resolve conflicts.
"That has to mean that the problems that set off the conflict can be solved," Arve Bakke, lead negotiator for the union, told news bureau NTB.
Pay scales for carpentry work and so-called "social dumping," which involves eastern European construction workers being hired at wages far less than Norwegians', are the most nagging issues.
The strike has interrupted construction at such large projects as the new Opera House for Oslo, a new hospital in Akershus and the Snow White gas facility in northern Norway.
Þróndeimr April 5th, 2006, 06:26 PM The biggest congress hotel in Norway been proposed in Trondheim
In september 2005 Realinvest A/S announced their planns for Norway's biggest congress hotel in downtown Trondheim. They have now announced new renderings and information. The 20 story tall hotell will have 400 rooms, and with several congress halls, the largest with a capacity of 2200 people, which makes the hotel to the biggest congresshotel in Norway. This hall will also work as a cinama and theatre. The hotel also include a panorama skybar in the topp floor. The hotel is located next to Pirbadet, Scandinavia's largest indoor swimming pool. The situation is at the harbour, which is been planned massively rebuilt in the next 5 to 10 years.
The construction cost is estimated to 490 million Nok. The hotel tower will be 20 floors tall, and construction will start in january 2008 if approval. The hotel will be completed in september 2009. The city council will treat the proposal by the end of this year.
http://www.boarding.no/images/archive/p200604041659-52871.jpg
NorthStar77 April 5th, 2006, 11:39 PM Wow, two proposals in Trondheim in so short time. Keep'em coming:happy:
Þróndeimr April 6th, 2006, 09:53 AM Wow, two proposals in Trondheim in so short time. Keep'em coming:happy:
Actually its the third, Trondheim Kommunehus is been proposed rebuilt into a NTNU building, they will built another high-rise next to it, but there is few of information about this yet, just some regulation planns. The planns was announced a month ago.
NorthStar77 April 26th, 2006, 09:41 AM In the little southern town of Farsund, Mosvold Farsund A/S and Reme Invest A/S have plans to build 10.000 square meters to connect Gåseholmen to "downtown". They will fill the harbour with 100.000 cubic meters of mass, and build apartments, shops and offices on it. They will also make a bridge where small boats can sail under, and wants the harbour-promenade to develop into a popular meetingplace.
http://www.fvn.no/multimedia/archive/00244/Farsund22_244952a.jpg
How it is now
http://www.fvn.no/multimedia/archive/00244/farsund11_244951a.jpg
http://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lister/article358876.ece
kjetilab April 26th, 2006, 10:56 AM That project looks really sweet. Looks like the town will get a really nice feel to it if the proposal is realized.
siddis April 27th, 2006, 02:08 PM Rogaland's tallest building is planned at Bryggeriparken, Forus:
http://web3.aftenbladet.no/multimedia/archive/00118/cci-Aft-20060427-1-_118824b.jpg
http://web3.aftenbladet.no/innenriks/okonomi/article282323.ece
Þróndeimr April 27th, 2006, 03:24 PM ^ Woah, Forus is becomming a high-rise boomtown! Now we have two 80-100m proposals there! :eek:
Not sure if i like the building though, looks like a boring one, as well as the other proposed high-rise.
kjetilab April 27th, 2006, 03:36 PM The chance of getting it built increases if it looks rather common and dull. Norway is't yet ready for exciting high-rise architecture.. (Maybe exept for Bjørvika, but those building just look modern, not nice IMO)
NorthStar77 April 27th, 2006, 08:58 PM ^So true. And sad. When I showed my photos from London to my mother and grandmother, they both loved Swiss Re. And they both usually dislike cities! Why is it so hard to design something similar in Norway? It would make highrises much more popular.
Þróndeimr April 27th, 2006, 09:41 PM ^So true. And sad. When I showed my photos from London to my mother and grandmother, they both loved Swiss Re. And they both usually dislike cities! Why is it so hard to design something similar in Norway? It would make highrises much more popular.
Yeah, i really wonder if its the architects lack of knownledge to supermodern architecture and design, or if the developers and owners care only about the money and want the cheapest and most boring looking building they can possibly get. They want signal towers everywhere, thats their dream, but a signal tower isn't just a tall tower.
Spearman April 28th, 2006, 11:49 AM ^^Getting a thoroughly worked through design costs money. And the developers will only spend money on a project they think will go through. And as long as there are no beautiful highrises in Norway (sorry, I don't think Oslo Plaza is unusual enough), they will only taste the anti-highrise sentiment, and not bother with really trying. So the vicious circle is set.... :(
But just you wait. Once we get one to be proud of, so much can change. Just look what it did to London.
kjetilab April 28th, 2006, 12:31 PM Good point. As long as the risk of not getting a special looking highrise approved developers won't spend money on design, but count their pennies and try to build as much space as possible cheapest possible. ISAF have a long struggle ahead..;)
Þróndeimr April 28th, 2006, 03:00 PM Good point. As long as the risk of not getting a special looking highrise approved developers won't spend money on design, but count their pennies and try to build as much space as possible cheapest possible. ISAF have a long struggle ahead..;)
Yeah, we should make ISAF been partly a architect office, which tries to contribute with some more spectacular ideas to high-rise building than another square tower! ;)
Spearman April 28th, 2006, 07:38 PM ^^ Afraid I'll have little to contribute with in that departement :(
kjetilab April 28th, 2006, 08:05 PM First a map:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7125/bygging0fn.gif
15 project, completed, u/c and planned is listed her. I tried to be smart and make a colour coding. (And show the extent of contruction in Drammen)
Green: Completed
Blue: Planned or U/C with picture
Black: Planned or U/C without picture
(sorry for the poor quality of the pics, quite cloudy today..)
1. Bragernes Strand: U/C
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6964/bragernesstrand015yl.jpg
2. Prins Oscars Hage: Construction yet to start
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4029/prinsoscarshave7bz.jpg
3. Engene Park: Completed
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8707/engenepark3ah.jpg
4. Høytorget Terrasse: Completed
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/452/hytorgetterrasse7ji.jpg
5. Raadhushaven: Under contruction
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7016/raadhushaven2br.jpg
6. Kirkegata: Under contruction
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8718/kirkegata7qw.jpg
7. Gamle Kirkeplass: Under construction
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5176/gamlekirkeplass9nv.jpg
8. Bueslaget and Strømsø Perspektiv: Under contruction. Two buildings topped out.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9797/bueslaget018ij.jpg
9. "office building" name unknown: Under contruction
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2748/union024cs.jpg
Union Brygge and Papirbredden
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7163/ub6sc.jpg
10. Union Brygge: Completed
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6070/ub017wd.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2972/ub047sn.jpg
11. Papirbredden(University college and county library): Under construction
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6150/papirbredden010zm.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7417/papirbredden031un.jpg
and I took a sneak peek inside:)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5428/papirbredden041eq.jpg
second floor:
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3433/papirbredden050kj.jpg
looking out:
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4428/papirbredden065ta.jpg
12. Marienlyst Park: Under construction
13. St. Hallvardskvartalet: Under construction. No pics
14. Zitty. New project under planning. More info here (http://www.zitty.no)
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2952/peab26xs.jpg
15. Eliaz: Under construction
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5809/eliaz7hh.jpg
That's it for now.
NorthStar77 April 28th, 2006, 08:11 PM Drammen really has alot going for it!
kjetilab May 20th, 2006, 12:59 PM One of the owners of Strømsgodset football club want to build a new stadium.. in the middle of the river! :eek2:
The stadium will have a capasity of 16.000 spectators and included in the plan is a hotel tower 132 metres tall.(The hotel proposals in Drammen are just getting taller and taller.)
The stadium will be shaped like two ships and the hotel a little like oil rig legs...
It's going to cost some hundred of millions NOK, if ever started.
Link to the article in the local paper here (http://dt.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060520/SPORT/105200213/1005/NYHET#)
And some drawings..
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1750/bilde12ty.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6624/bilde20oh.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8085/bilde37qb.jpg
Þróndeimr May 20th, 2006, 04:52 PM Holy shit! :eek:
The proposals in Drammen is sure getting taller, but also with more interesting designs! This looks more like a vision at the moment, but lets hope they develope some really grat renderings and a great proposal out of it.
kjetilab May 20th, 2006, 06:05 PM Maybe someone from ISAF should comment on the proposal in Drammens Tidene... or maybe all members and supporters of ISAF's cause should...
ch1le May 20th, 2006, 06:31 PM That Drammen proposal is so kitch, seriously horrible.... build something more original... think of it! having such a thing in your city for a couple of hundred years! NO WAY!
Þróndeimr May 20th, 2006, 06:31 PM Maybe someone from ISAF should comment on the proposal in Drammens Tidene... or maybe all members and supporters of ISAF's cause should...
Give me some links about this project kjetil!
Þróndeimr May 20th, 2006, 06:36 PM That Drammen proposal is so kitch, seriously horrible.... build something more original... think of it! having such a thing in your city for a couple of hundred years! NO WAY!
I actually like the idea, though the tower, and those ships need to be redesigned a bit. But these planns is more interesting than those boxes proposed in Drammen the latest year.
kjetilab May 20th, 2006, 06:54 PM The link is to be found in the post where I presented the proposal, but here it is: http://dt.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060520/SPORT/105200213/1005/NYHET#
I agree with ch1le. The proposal, as it was presented in the paper is really kitchy, and won't help much on changing Drammen's image of a harry(kitchy/tacky/tasteless) town. But the fact that someone is ready to pay hundreds of millions on a project this big, and tall, is great news for Drammen.
Þróndeimr May 22nd, 2006, 08:53 PM Here are a few old renderings from Levanger Fjordhotel. Its the first drawnings Kjell Kosberg made and was presented about a year ago. This high-rise is 16 stories tall. The current proposal is 15 stories tall and was published in november 2005. You can read and see more about this project here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=7489864&postcount=262).
The old renderings:
http://tsimg.no.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Avis=TS&Dato=20050520&Kategori=NYHETER&Lopenr=105200029&Ref=V2&MaxW=580
http://tsimg.no.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Avis=TS&Dato=20050520&Kategori=NYHETER&Lopenr=105200029&Ref=H3&MaxW=580
Levanger is having a little boom, a 150 dekar large harbour will be developed into residential and cultural district in the next years to 2015. Two high-rises has been proposed, and the project has recieved great enthusiasm from politics and inhabitants of Levanger. Kjell Kosberg is now deeply involved in the project, and Ole Wiig from Oslo has just signed in on the project. Kjell Kosberg calles the project "Lille Venezia" (Little Venezia) and dreams of building 420 apartments in the new district.
siddis June 1st, 2006, 10:26 AM The construction of Jæren's tallest building was a was approved by local autorities yesterday:
http://web3.aftenbladet.no/multimedia/archive/00124/cci-Aft-20060601-1-_124460b.jpg
More details:
http://web3.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/article298689.ece
I guess highrise makes sense in Jæren because the region has strong population growt and limited space (due to farmland).
Þróndeimr June 1st, 2006, 11:04 AM Wow, great news! I've been looking for new renderings and waiting for approval news along time now, so its about time they show us some new renderings. That high-rise looks good actually, not as bad as the old renderings.
I know there has been a lot of opposition against the new tall building in Bryne downtown. Its hard for many to see the town growing to a city!
Þróndeimr June 1st, 2006, 11:10 AM Here is some information:
Height: 64m
Floors: 17
Architect 1: Bork
Architect 2: Asplan
Construction start: Autumn 2006
Construction end: Summer 2008
First proposal was 16 story tall, then they decidet to lower it to 14 floors. I now see its 17 floors which is great! :okay:
Btw, visit this (http://web3.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/article298689.ece) article and vote whatever you think this is a nice high rise or not.
Þróndeimr June 1st, 2006, 11:27 AM They say in the article that they have been looking at high rises elsewhere in Norway to design this building. Once again i think they should have seen abroad, because all buildings in Norway is a sqaure. Its nothing special about this high rise, as all other high rises in Norway, so im still waiting for a good proposal! :)
Þróndeimr June 4th, 2006, 10:42 AM Hell, "The white city"
Developers is planning a large extension of Hell, the small town at the main Trondheim and Trøndelag airport. They just completed the extension of Rica Hell Hotel with 382 rooms and 7 new suites. The next steps is a large shopping mall, another extension of the hotel, some residential and a office high-rise building. The plan is to build Hell into a small white city. The area have loads of potensial, with Trondheim not to far west, and with the booming city of Stjørdal on the other side of the airport.
http://tsimg.no.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Avis=TS&Dato=20060603&Kategori=NYHETER&Lopenr=106030086&Ref=AR&MaxW=580
siddis June 5th, 2006, 12:41 AM Hell is such a dark and scary place. I "white city" would be nice.. :)
Þróndeimr June 7th, 2006, 12:22 AM 14 story hotel in Skien
Hotell Ibsenhuset in Skien is planning an expansion by adding a 14 story tall hotel tower to the hotel complex in downtown Skien. The Oslo architect firm 4B is behind the planns as architect. The tower will also contain a congress hall with 400 seats. The politicians is positive, and the proposal is awaiting the city councils final decission on June 15th.
http://www.ta.no/multimedia/archive/00859/22Fyrt_rn_859516g.jpg
All i was able to find right now was this rendering, and that can't be the current 14 story tower design.
Ill see if i search something up later!
NorthStar77 June 7th, 2006, 08:48 AM wow, another town to join the highrise-race! Skien/Porsgrunn has around 100.000 people, so it's about time with a highrise hotel there:)
Þróndeimr June 20th, 2006, 12:30 PM Link signatur AS to become the biggest architect firm in Norway
The two architect firms Signatur Arkitekter in Stavanger and Link Arkitekter in Bergen have decidet to merge to one large architect firm. Two smaller architect firms, Næss Arkitektkontor and Svingen Arkitekter in Trondheim will also join. The new architect firm, Link Signatur AS have a staff on 126, and will be the biggest architect firm in Norway based with offices in Stavanger, Bergen, Trondheim, Oslo, Stord, Copenhagen and a planned office in Tromsø. The yearly income will be over 100 million Kroner in 2007, and will be the biggest architect firm in Norway by far. The current biggest architect firms is Link Arkitekter, DARK Arkitekter and Niels Torp Arkitektkontor.
Homepages:
Link Arkitekter AS (http://www.link-arkitekter.no/)
Signatur Arkitekter AS (http://www.signark.no/)
Næss Arkitektkontor AS (http://www.nessark.no/)
Svingen Arkitekter AS (http://www.svingen.no/)
New Firm:
LINK signatur AS (http://www.link-signatur.no/)
muster June 23rd, 2006, 12:46 AM Hundred years ago Odda was a big touristspot in Norway (13 hotels). But then came the industrial era and Odda changed from a farmers-society with tourism to industry place. A few years ago "Odda Smelteverk" located downtown Odda and one of three main factories had to close down. With a decreasing population Odda is now searching for a new identity. Many wants to make it a touristspot again...
Downtown Odda in February:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Odda_i_februar_2004.jpg/800px-Odda_i_februar_2004.jpg
Odda Smelteverk area:
http://www.archus.no/prosjekt/byogtettsted/oddasentrum_reg%20smelteverkstomten/oddasmelteverk_stort_020.jpg
http://www.archus.no/prosjekt/byogtettsted/oddasentrum_reg%20smelteverkstomten/oddasmelteverk_stort_010.jpg
The area to be developed:
http://www.archus.no/prosjekt/byogtettsted/oddasentrum_reg%20smelteverkstomten/oddasmelteverk_stort_050.jpg
Archus Arcitechts have made some proposals on the future development on the site by the fjord:
http://www.archus.no/prosjekt/byogtettsted/oddasentrum/0ddasentrum_stort_030.jpg
http://www.archus.no/prosjekt/byogtettsted/oddasentrum/0ddasentrum_stort_020.jpg
http://www.archus.no/prosjekt/byogtettsted/oddasentrum/0ddasentrum_stort_050.jpg
One of the factorybuildings they want to preserve, perhaps to become a swimming/watercentre?
http://www.archus.no/prosjekt/byogtettsted/oddasentrum_reg%20smelteverkstomten/oddasmelteverk_stort_060.jpg
It is said that a english investmentgroup wants to invest in Odda. The two first projects are rebuilding the old "Hardanger Hotel", and construction of a cable car almost to the top of the mountain, 3000 ft over Odda city.
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00239/Hardanger_hotell_239892a.jpg
And then some other pictures from Odda:
http://www.vasstun.no/images/bildegalleri/large/trolltunga.jpg
http://www.vasstun.no/images/bildegalleri/large/padletur.jpg
From the glacier:
http://www.vasstun.no/images/bildegalleri/large/breklatring.jpg
Summerskiing on glacier:
http://www.visitodda.com/newsread/readimage.asp?WCI=GetByID&IMAGEID=96&DOCID=9998
There are many waterfalls in Odda:
http://www.visitodda.com/newsread/readimage.asp?WCI=GetByID&IMAGEID=46&DOCID=9998
http://www.visitodda.com/newsread/readimage.asp?WCI=GetByID&IMAGEID=317&DOCID=9998
And that would be all for now. :cheers:
Spearman June 23rd, 2006, 01:11 AM Odda certainly is nice. They shouldn't find it impossible to find some tourists interested.
NorthStar77 June 23rd, 2006, 07:57 AM Yeah, once the big old factory is gone it could be really nice. That developement looks interesting. Odda has had its share of industrial pollution, and it all got stuck in the fjord. Maybe this will bring back the old glory:)
muster June 30th, 2006, 10:48 PM A part of the transformation in Odda is a more liberal attitude towards cabins in the mountains. Odda kommune this spring approved construction of 1300 cabins in the skiresorts Seljestad/Røldal. Additional 5-6 apartmentbuildings with restaurant/bars are also under construction. The costs the first years are about 200-300 mill EUR.
One of the apartmentbuildings under construction:
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/767/034/8_184479268.jpg
Other pictures from the skiresort in Odda:
http://www.visitodda.com/newsread/ReadImage.asp?WCI=GetByID&IMAGEID=2&DOCID=10140
http://www.roldal.com/wp-content/gallery//2005/mar05-1.jpg
http://www.roldal.com/wp-content/gallery//2005/feb05-2.jpg
This fellow I don`t know, but I`m sure he`s doing a good work :)
http://www.roldal.com/wp-content/gallery//p%C3%A5sken_2006/bilde_013.jpg
kjetilab July 8th, 2006, 12:03 PM Now that the first phase of the construction on Union Brygge is completed, with three 7 stories towers it's time for phase two.
This part of the development include 4 towers. Three 8 stories and one 10 stories high. In total more than 35.000 square metres will be built. The project will have a price tag of more than 500. mill. NOK
Included in the approved project is:
-120 student apartments
-110 residential condominiums
-Two stories underground parking
-Large Department store(from the chain Ultra)
Completion will be in 2008/2009
Some renderings:
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5268/bilde19ob.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2241/bilde21fq.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8038/bilde35oi.jpg
The article in the local paper here (http://dt.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060707/LDRAMMEN/107070425/1007/NYHET#)
(in norwegian)
Þróndeimr August 3rd, 2006, 10:46 PM Byggeplaner vil sprenge norsk økonomi
01.08.2006 16:55
Oslo (NTB-Einar Olsen): Den planlagte byggeaktiviteten i Norge neste år ligger 23 prosent over nivået i 2006 og har en beregnet kostnad på 248 milliarder kroner. Ajourførte tall fra Byggfaktas database viser at det 1. august 2006 var registrert 6.250 prosjekter som etter planen skal settes i gang neste år.
- Byggenæringen har ikke kapasitet til å gjennomføre alle disse planene. Det er ikke tilstrekkelig arbeidskraft og jeg tviler sterkt på at planer i dette omfang lar seg gjennomføre, sier administrerende direktør Pål Engeseth i Reed Business Information Norway. Det er dette firmaet som eier og driver databasen Byggfakta.
Sporene fra 1987
Engeseth viser til erfaringene fra 1987 og 1988 da Norge hadde gått på høygir i flere år på rad havnet før vi sammen med resten av verden havnet i en dyp nedgangskonjunktur.
- Den gang ble hele 70 prosent av prosjektene i databasen skrinlagt nærmest over natta og bare de som ikke kunne stoppes ble gjennomført, sier Engeseth. Han viser til den store forskjellen fra nedgangen i 2001 da det også kom en internasjonal og norsk nedgang.
- I 2001 var det alle luftslottene innenfor «den nye økonomien» som ble borte. De var ofte tuftet på ideer og planer som ikke krevde noen form for byggevirksomhet. Dermed fikk nedturen heller ikke så stor betydning for byggenæringen, sier Engeseth.
Økt boligbygging
Databasen registrerer alle planlagte prosjekter innenfor bygg og anlegg. Ren privat boligbygging i egen regi er ikke registrert.
- Av de 6.250 prosjektene til en verdi av 248 milliarder kroner har likevel hele 35 prosent tilknytning til boligbygging. All feltutbygging og stor blokkbebyggelse er registrert, men bare virksomhet som skal iverksettes av næringsdrivende. Privatfolk som har kjøpt en tomt og skal bygge selv, blir ikke registrert. Engeseth sier alle prosjektene som etter planen skal starte neste år ikke er kommet like langt. Noen er klar til å sette spaden i jorda mens andre har mye planarbeid igjen. Han tror derfor det for mange vil være enkelt å skyve planene ut i tid dersom forutsetningene endrer seg.
Akershus på topp
I takt med den sterke veksten skjer det også en forskyvning i retning av økt aktivitet i sentrale strøk. Oslo har lenge vært ledende når det gjelder byggeaktivitet på landsbasis. Akershus har allerede i 2006 overtatt den posisjonen. I 2007 har Akershus 14,4 prosent av planlagt byggeaktivitet, Oslo har 12,2 prosent og Hordaland 12,1 prosent. I et normalt år er det også disse tre fylkene sammen med Rogaland som er de største innenfor bygg og anlegg, sier Engeseth.
- Fra 2005 til i år vokste aktiviteten innenfor bygg og anlegg med rundt 10 prosent. Dersom vi nå skal gå for en økning på 23 prosent fra i år til neste år, vil det kunne ende med krakk i stedet for fortsatt vekst.
- Går det for fort, går det galt, sier Engeseth. (©NTB)
__________
Construction boom too much for Norwegian economy
The construction boom in Norway is too much for the Norwegian economy. Recent statistics shows that next years construction activity will increase by 23% compared to this year. The construction capacity in Norway will not be enough to realise all these new building and project constructions planned for 2007 sais administrative director in Reed Business Information Norway.
NorthStar77 August 3rd, 2006, 11:38 PM 23% increase on one year. Worth 248 billion NOK(~32 billlion euros).....We must either import a hundred thousand more Poles, or face a meltdown in the economy:runaway:
btw, does Kristin Halvorsen still think she will be able to fulfill her promise of full kindergarden-coverage within the timelimit she set? I will be glad to se her go :D
Spearman August 4th, 2006, 12:57 AM 23% increase on one year. Worth 248 billion NOK(~32 billlion euros).....We must either import a hundred thousand more Poles, or face a meltdown in the economy:runaway:
btw, does Kristin Halvorsen still think she will be able to fulfill her promise of full kindergarden-coverage within the timelimit she set? I will be glad to se her go :D
This time, at least, Oslo won't loose any towers when the economy crashes....
And I don't think Kristin Halvorsen will be going anytime soon. She's having too much fun destroying the basis for the Petroleum fund.... (here (http://odin.dep.no/fin/norsk/tema/statens_pensjonsfond/p30005696/filtrering/investeringsunivers/bn.html))
muster August 5th, 2006, 08:49 PM bt.no
©Bergens Tidende
Vil mangle 220 000 arbeidstakere i 2010
Selv om alle ledige i dag skulle få jobb, vil de på ingen måte klare å fylle behovet for arbeidskraft de neste årene. Mer arbeidsinnvandring fra nye EU-land vil heller ikke kunne løse så fryktelig mye.
Publisert: 05. aug. 2006, 06:00
Oppdatert: 05. aug. 2006, 08:58
- Mangelen på arbeidskraft kan faktisk vise seg å bli enda større enn 220 000, sier Tommy Johansen. Han er avdelingsdirektør i det som nå heter NAV og er en sammenslåing av Aetat og Trygdeetaten. Det er NAV som har beregnet mangelen på arbeidskraft ved å bruke Statistisk sentralbyrå sine beregninger for vekst i arbeidsstyrken, pluss sine egne tall for behovet for arbeidskraft. Og det er dette som ikke går i hop, men spriker med 220 000 personer i 2010.
Norge har i dag drøye 70 000 arbeidsledige, inkludert de relativt få vi har på tiltak.
En stor del av dem som er registrert ledige er i realiteten på vei fra en jobb til en annen.
Kampen om arbeidskraft er nå såpass stor at ledigheten også går merkbart ned for langtidsledige, innvandrere og eldre arbeidstakere. Dette er grupper som tradisjonelt har hatt det tøft i arbeidsmarkedet.
Kveldsåpne barnehager?
Skal ledigheten videre ned tror ekspertisen at vi kanskje må se på helt nye politiske tiltak.
- Vi skal huske at 31 prosent av oss har arbeidstid som strekker seg utover kl. 18.00 om kvelden. Det er få barnehager, skoler, eller skolefritidsordninger som er åpne da. Dette er nok til å ekskludere en del fra yrkeslivet, tror Tommy Johansen.
Når det gjelder den registrerte arbeidsinnvandringen er den så langt relativt begrenset. Dessuten er ledigheten for eksempel i Polen på vei nedover, mens prisene og lønningene er på vei oppover.
Deltid vil ha mer
Minst like viktig som arbeidsinnvandringen kan det bli å finne jobb til deltidsansatte som ønsker seg mer å gjøre.
- Her ligger i øyeblikket en ressurs tilsvarende 114 000 årsverk. Mye av denne reserven finnes i pleiesektoren hvor behovet for ny arbeidskraft vil bli betydelig, mener Johansen.
Det aller største potensialet for ny arbeidskraft ligger likevel i de mange som lever på trygdeordninger utenfor arbeidslivet. Det mener både Johansen og førsteamanuensis Kjell Vaage. Han er spesialist på trygdeøkonomi ved Institutt for Økonomi på Universitetet i Bergen.
Mer lønnsomt hjemme
- Vi har verdensrekord i antall trygdede i arbeidsdyktig alder. Det har selvfølgelig sammenheng med at vi også har verdens mest sjenerøse trygdeordninger. Vaage har ingen problem med å finne praktiske eksempler på at det faktisk lønner seg for mange å gå på trygd, fremfor å være i jobb.
Det kan være folk som har vært relativt godt betalt og som blir ledige. Får de tilbud om jobb som er dårligere betalt enn ledighetstrygden vil ikke de være interessert. Personer med store gjeldsproblemer risikerer å bli fratatt det aller meste av sin inntekt om de begynner i jobb. Dessuten vil mange jobber bety transportkostnader og kostnader til pass av barn. Når disse inkluderes i regnestykket, kan det være lønnsomt å forbli hjemme.
- Regnestykket kan bli enda verre fordi bostøtte og andre ordninger ofte faller bort når man får arbeidsinntekt, sier Vaage.
Det store dilemma
- Det utrolige vanskelige dilemmaet er på den ene siden å gi folk en anstendig trygd å leve av, samtidig som det skal lønne seg å jobbe, sier Johansen og får full støtte av Vaage.
Å finne denne vanskelige balansegangen er politikernes oppgave. Og regjeringen står allerede til knes i denne oppgaven når arbeids- og inkluderingsminister Bjarne Håkon Hanssen i høst skal legge frem en stortingsmelding om virkemiddelbruken på dette området.
Akkurat samme problemstillingen gjelder eldre arbeidstakere og forholdet mellom pensjon og inntekt.
Her har statsminister Jens Stoltenberg allerede lovet at alle typer inntekt skal i fremtiden gi grunnlag for tilleggspensjon i den offentlige Folketrygden. Det praktiske dilemmaet her er å videreføre ordningen med avtalefestet pensjon (AFP), og samtidig stimulere folk til å stå lenger i arbeidslivet. AFP tar nettopp sikte på at sliterne skal kunne gå av med en anstendig pensjon. Å da lage ordninger som stimulerer til å stå lenger i arbeidslivet, blir mildt sagt en utfordring.
Flere eldre på deltid
Nå er det ikke bare politikerens jobb å få godt voksne medarbeidere til å stå lenger i arbeidslivet.
- Mange arbeidsgivere er blitt flinkere til å gi sine godt voksne arbeidstakere bedre mulighet for redusert arbeidstid. Men jeg tror ikke man er like flink med andre former for praktisk tilrettelegging for disse arbeidstakerne, sier regiondirektør for Adecco på Vestlandet, Reidun Brekke.
Johansen tror på sin side at tempoet har økt betydelig på mange arbeidsplasser. Han tror rett og slett at arbeidsgiverne må være villig til å finne oppgaver for disse hvor tempoet er noe lavere.
This article in a norwegian newspaper today says that Norway probably will be in lack of at least 220.000 workers in 2010!
kjetilab August 15th, 2006, 05:55 PM In the district Åssiden there are planned 300-400 apartments on 120 000 square metres of land currently owned by the Drammen horse-track. Included in the plan is a hotel, that probably will be a high-rise.(No good renderings so far)
Investment is estimated to between 2-3 billion NOK(around 300 mill Euro)
The investor behind the project is the same guy behind Sjølyststranda in Oslo, Ola Mæle.
Article in local paper to be found here (http://dt.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060815/NYHET/108150418/1072/UPAS#)
skog August 19th, 2006, 01:25 AM And I don't think Kristin Halvorsen will be going anytime soon. She's having too much fun destroying the basis for the Petroleum fund.... (here (http://odin.dep.no/fin/norsk/tema/statens_pensjonsfond/p30005696/filtrering/investeringsunivers/bn.html))
Yes! Those damn communists who run this country have no right to refuse investments by the norwegian government in companies who produce cluster bombs, dumps toxic waste in natural habitats, makes nuclear weapons, assists in undermining illegal occupation of other countries territories, and in general has no moral og ethical standards what so ever.
Or maybe ethical standards is a good thing?
Þróndeimr August 19th, 2006, 09:00 AM Activity around proposed hotel in Trondheim
Petter Stordalen wants to built the proposed hotel in the sea by the harbour in Trondheim, and most politicians suport him. But the city counsel director want to build the hotel on the nearby parkinglot.
The city council will decide where the hotel will be situated on tuesday next week. Meanwhile, for special intrested people, check out this video (http://www.adressa.no/streaming/nyheter/article704782.ece) (In Norwegian).
Bergenser August 19th, 2006, 10:34 AM maybe this is one step closer?link (http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article290056.ece) (in norwegion)
Spearman August 20th, 2006, 12:34 AM Yes! Those damn communists who run this country have no right to refuse investments by the norwegian government in companies who produce cluster bombs, dumps toxic waste in natural habitats, makes nuclear weapons, assists in undermining illegal occupation of other countries territories, and in general has no moral og ethical standards what so ever.
Or maybe ethical standards is a good thing?
Perhaps this is not the right place for this discussion, but when unethical includes things that doesnt seem to bother the local democracy, I think we're aiming a little high. Would you really refuse to fly Norwegian, bc they use Boeing aircraft?
Þróndeimr August 20th, 2006, 02:51 PM Eight major windmill-parks proposed in Fosen
NVE has proposed 8 new major windmill-parks in Fosen in Nord Trøndelag county and Sør Trøndelag county. Four windmill-park was proposed and approved last year, and construction is expected to start on these very soon.
> Haraheia vindkraftverk
Roan Kommune, 60 windmills with a yearly production on 900 GWh. Each windmill will be from 110m to 140m tall.
> Fosen offshore vindkraftverk
Åfjord Kommune, Roan Kommune and Osen Kommune, 300 windmills with a yearly production on 3 TWh. Each windmill will be from 100m to 150m.
> Storheia vindkraftverk
Bjugn Kommune and Åfjord Kommune, 130 windmills with yearly production on 900 GWh. Each windmill will be from 110m to 160m tall.
> Rissa vindkraftverk
Rissa Kommune, 75 windmills with a yearly production on 480 GWh. Each windmill will be from 110m to 160m tall.
> Benkheia vindkraftverk
Rissa Kommune and Leksvik Kommune, 25 windmills with a yearly production on 180 GWh. Each windmill will be from 110m to 160m tall.
> Leksvik vindkraftverk
Leksvik Kommune, 90 windmills with a yearly production on 600 GWh. Each windmill will be from 110m to 160m tall.
> Oksbåsheia vindkraftverk
Osen Kommune and Flatanger Kommune, 70 windmills with a yearly production on 450 GWh.
> Kvenndalsfjellet vindkraftverk
Åfjord Kommune, 20 windmills with a yearly production on 240 GWh.
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Looks like i will get some huge constructions in my nabourhood afterall! The current largest mainland windmill park in Europe is Smøla Vindpark, with 68 windmills and a production on 450GWh each year. The proposed park in Leksvik will be much bigger, and still that one is not the largest of the eight proposed windparks.
NorthStar77 August 21st, 2006, 07:37 AM :eek2:
That is some serious proposals! With around 7TWh, they will produce 5-6% of our consumption if built. I hope atleast some of them gets built to make us less dependant of hydroplants.
Þróndeimr August 22nd, 2006, 09:59 PM :eek2:
That is some serious proposals! With around 7TWh, they will produce 5-6% of our consumption if built. I hope atleast some of them gets built to make us less dependant of hydroplants.
Yeah, its gigantic. 5 of these windparks is going to be even larger than the current largest mainland windpark in Europe (Smøla Vindpark). And as the gass project isn't going any good i guess its a bigger chance these projects will be approved, though they will meet much resistance. Strong forces in Leksvik don't want to see 90 windmills in the most popular wild areas here. I hope they approve it though, even though 90 is a bit too much as i have already said!
NorthStar77 August 23rd, 2006, 11:56 AM http://www.fvn.no/multimedia/archive/00269/e39-468_269271a.jpg
The new E39 over Kvinnesheia in southern Norway opens next Wednesday. 17.5 km new road, with seven tunnels and one 570 meter long and 100 meter tall bridge.
Click here (http://www.fvn.no/bilder/bildeserier/article391780.ece) to see more photos of the new road.
kjetilab August 23rd, 2006, 12:41 PM Nice...
Þróndeimr August 23rd, 2006, 08:55 PM Looking very nice Northstar! Btw, how's the speed limits gonna be?
NorthStar77 August 24th, 2006, 07:49 AM I don't know, probably 90km/h.
Þróndeimr August 27th, 2006, 03:29 PM I don't know, probably 90km/h.
Better than 80km/h at least! ;)
Þróndeimr August 31st, 2006, 08:22 PM Forum Jæren approved
The city council in Time Kommune gave a final approval to the proposed high-rise building in dontown Bryne today. The high-rise will be the first in the town of Bryne and the second tallest in Rogaland county after Rica Forum Hotel in Stavanger. The tower is going to be 64m tall with 17 floors and will contain residential apartments and office area. Construction is expected to start in 2007.
Last week many politicians changed their opinion from been positive to the tower to say no, after two architects which they hired to make a special report regaring the proposed high-rise in Bryne. They concluded, and recommended the politicians strongly to decline the proposed high-rise.
http://web3.aftenbladet.no/multimedia/archive/00124/cci-Aft-20060601-1-_124460i.jpg
Spearman August 31st, 2006, 09:05 PM Forum Jæren approved
The city council in Time Kommune gave a final approval to the proposed high-rise building in dontown Bryne today. The high-rise will be the first in the town of Bryne and the second tallest in Rogaland county after Rica Forum Hotel in Stavanger. The tower is going to be 64m tall with 17 floors and will contain residential apartments and office area. Construction is expected to start in 2007.
Last week many politicians changed their opinion from been positive to the tower to say no, after two architects which they hired to make a special report regaring the proposed high-rise in Bryne. They concluded, and recommended the politicians strongly to decline the proposed high-rise.
http://web3.aftenbladet.no/multimedia/archive/00124/cci-Aft-20060601-1-_124460i.jpg
Good news. I just hope people other places won't see the boxy shape as a turnoff for their own highrise projects....
Þróndeimr August 31st, 2006, 09:31 PM Good news. I just hope people other places won't see the boxy shape as a turnoff for their own highrise projects....
Yeah, its not the most exellent designed tower, its more typical Norway again, as always. It looks like we're still far from the architectural masterpieces we see many other places on earth.
Þróndeimr September 2nd, 2006, 10:42 AM Horisont approved
Trondheim city council approved Horisont again on August 31st. The 15 story tall building was originally approved in december 2004, and construction started in february 2006. However, great opposition against the building halted the project in march, and the developers had to repropose the building.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Horisont1.jpg
Read more about this building here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=3593195&postcount=37).
Þróndeimr September 23rd, 2006, 01:03 AM Valsneset Vindmøllepark
Construction of 5 windmills in Bjugn, Sør Trøndelag is going well. First windmill was topped out last week, and new windmills will be completed for each week to come to the whole windmillpark will start to produce power in the end of October.
Each windmill will be 64m tall. The rotor have a diameter on 71m, which is making the windmills 99.5m tall on structural tip. The windpark will produce 35 GWh of power each year. Owner and developer is Trønderenergi, the largest developing company of energy in Sør Trøndelag. The first of the five windmills was topped out last week.
Construction update:
And here is some few construction update photos i've taken on a visit to the park on Friday 22th of September.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Trondelag/ValsnesetVindmllepark1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Trondelag/DSCN4990small.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Trondelag/DSCN4986small.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Trondelag/DSCN4998small.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Trondelag/ValsnesetPanorama1mini.jpg (http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1323/valsnesetpanorama1smallfz5.jpg)
Þróndeimr September 29th, 2006, 10:19 AM Trondheim Central Station, bridge and the harbourfront
One of the major developemt projects in Brattøra, central Trondheim is the construction of the new Central Station, a bridge to the harbourfront crossing the railroads and the construction of the Brattørkaia harbourfront.
118.000 m² of office, retail, parking lots and industrial area will be built. The buildings will be from 3-5 floors at the Central Station and 6-8 floors at the harbour front. The proposal also present a 18 story tall high-rise building on the Central Station. The new Central Station will be 41 000m² large, while the harbourfront at Brattørkaia will be 75 900m² large. The tallest office building will be 8 story tall, or 28.8m, while the proposed office and observation tower will be some 60-70m tall.
Entra Eiendom, ROM Eiendomsutvikling with PIRII Arkitekter is developing the proposal.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Brattra3small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Brattra1small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Brattra2small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Sentralbanestasjonen2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Brattra9.jpg
Þróndeimr October 14th, 2006, 03:51 PM Higher costs for road construction
The construction costs of roads rose by 1.2 per cent from the second to the third quarter this year. Material costs increased by 0.8 per cent in the same period.
Compared with the last quarter last year, the construction costs of concrete bridges rose most, and are 1.9 per cent higher than last quarter this year. Most of the increase can be explained due to increased steel prices. The costs of rock tunnels and open air roads increased by 1.4 and 0.8 per cent respectively in the same period.
From the third quarter last year to the third quarter this year the construction costs of roads rose by 4.4 per cent, while the material costs increased by 4.9 per cent.
The maintenance costs of roads increased by 1.1 per cent last quarter, and are 4.3 per cent higher than inthe second the third quarter last year. The costs of asphalt work remained unchanged last quarter, while the costs of maintenance in wintertime rose by 1.6 per cent.
Þróndeimr October 14th, 2006, 03:52 PM Many new industrial buildings
During the first eight months this year, a total of 2.1 million square metres of utility floor space for industrial purposes is started, an increase of 9.8 per cent compared with the corresponding period last year.
Most new floor space is started in buildings for retail trade and repair of personal/household goods, with 519 800 square metres started. The largest growth is recorded for buildings for real estate, renting and business activities, where 247 300 square metres of utility floor space is started, an increase of 38.9 per cent compared with the first eight months of 2005.
So far this year, building of 19 870 new dwellings is registered started, an increase of 4.2 per cent compared with the corresponding period last year. In the same period, the growth in started utility floor space for dwellings is 1.6 per cent.
Utility floor space started for holiday houses and residential garages is 804 900 square metres so far this year, a 1.8 per cent reduction from the first eight months of 2005.
Þróndeimr October 14th, 2006, 03:53 PM Highest rents in Oslo and Bærum
The Rental Market Survey 2006 shows that tenants in Oslo and Bærum pay the highest rents where average monthly rent for a 2-room rental unit amounts to NOK 5 895. There is, however, large variation in rents where both geographical location, lessors and period of tenancy are important factors.
Statistics Norway publishes new official statistics for the Norwegian rental market. The Rental Market Survey shows that tenants face an average monthly rent of NOK 4 597, or an annual rent of NOK 877 per sqm for a rental unit in the Norwegian rental market as at the 2nd quarter 2006. The rental market is however characterised by large variations in rents due to geographical areas, physical unit attributes, period of tenancy and relations between tenants and lessors. The average estimates must therefore be treated with some caution.
Large differences between areas
Geographical location is a crucial explanatory variable in differences in rents. Tenants living in Oslo and Bærum experience a higher monthly rent than the rest of the country, with NOK 6 335 on average. Tenants in this area also experience the greatest rent variation. The rent level in other main cities (Bergen, Trondheim, Stavanger and Tromsø) follows with monthly rents of NOK 5 030. The lowest rents are found in sparsely populated areas where a tenant must pay NOK 3 519 on average. The rent dispersion is also the lowest in these areas.
The rent survey's results further show that on average tenants in Oslo/Bærum must pay NOK 5 895 and 7 027 for a rental unit of two and three rooms, respectively. In the other main cities, the tenants face rents of NOK 4 468 and 5 205 for the same rental unit sizes. In sparsely populated areas, the rents amount to NOK 3 194 and 3 502 respectively. The survey shows that 2-room and 3-room rental units are the most common unit sizes, and that the average rent levels at a national level are NOK 4 313 and 4 804 respectively.
Highest rents from private landlords and private letting agencies
The survey shows that the relations between tenants and lessors can have a major impact on the rent level. Tenants renting from private landlords or private letting agencies face the highest average rent - annual rent per sqm is NOK 1 084 at a national level. The most dominating letting status is, however, private individuals letting out dwellings or parts of their own dwelling. Tenants renting from private individuals experience an annual rent per sqm of NOK 885. Tenancy agreements with family and friends often result in rent discounts - the annual rent per sqm amounts to NOK 577 on average. Tenants renting from municipalities and student organisations face an annual rent per sqm of NOK 988.
The survey shows differences in the rental market among the main cities in Norway. In the capital city of Oslo, private landlords and private letting agencies cover a greater share of the total rental market compared to other main cities - 32 per cent in Oslo, while in the city of Stavanger the share amounts to only 7 per cent. On the other hand, in the city of Stavanger the municipality covers a much larger share of the total market compared to other main cities - 20 per cent compared with, for instance, only 9 per cent in the city of Tromsø.
Period of tenancy important factor
The Rental Market Survey shows that the period of tenancy is an important factor for the rent level. The average rent level for tenancies from 2005 and 2006 is NOK 4 869, while tenancies from the period 2000-2004 show an average rent level of NOK 4 617. The monthly rent for tenancies prior to 2000 amounts to NOK 3 933 on average.
New official rental statistics
The Rental Market Survey was first carried out in 2005 and is now established as official annual statistics of the Norwegian rental market. The survey was initially established as an external commission and was based on the need for more detailed and improved rental statistics. See “About the statistics” for more information about the survey.
Þróndeimr October 24th, 2006, 09:23 PM Proposing another high-rise in Bodø
Kvartal Eiendom AS is proposing a 14 story tall high-rise building in downtown Bodø, right behing the 14 story tall Radisson SAS Hotel. This is the second proposal for new high-rise buildings in Bodø in a short time as there is a 13 story tall high-rise building proposed in Rensåsen in Bodø. The 14 story tall high-rise building, or Kvartal 22 as the project is named will contain offices and retail area.
http://www.an.no/multimedia/archive/00978/2833048030_978240g.jpg
NorthStar77 October 31st, 2006, 10:11 AM The new stadium in Kristiansand, "Sør Arena", has just got grass :) Planned opening is when Eliteserien starts again in April. Status for the highrise: unknown.
This is earlier this autumn
http://fotball.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00042/Stadion_3_42271a.jpg
Now:
http://www.fvn.no/multimedia/archive/00279/s_rarena468_279906a.jpg
Þróndeimr November 1st, 2006, 03:24 PM Looking nice, that area will look so much better in a few years, especially when that high-rise is completed! :D
Þróndeimr November 1st, 2006, 03:32 PM Tyin Panorama
40 stories, 130m tall skyscraper in the mountains!
This news is a about two months old. In a little mountains village, or a tourist village in Jotunheimen called Tyin in Vang municipality there is som large hotels planns. A 40 story tall hotel, 130m, taller than Radisson SAS Plaza Hotel in Oslo is been proposed. The major of Vang is positive to the projects, but several inhabitants and politicians say this is madness!
This is a real proposal, but still we can call it a vision as the developers say, there is no renderings out in the public yet.
Þróndeimr November 7th, 2006, 11:15 PM A new wooden district in Siriskjær, Stavanger
A architectural completetion has been held at Siriskjær in Stavanger. The winning design of 18 different proposals was a wooden complex of apartment buildings by Norwegian Studio Ludo and the Danish architect firm AART. This is the biggest project heading to be completed to the "Norwegian Wood" celebration in 2008. The resdiential buildings will be up to 5 stories tall, and all the buildings will be built of timber.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Other/Siriskjr1small.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Other/Siriskjr3small.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Other/Siriskjr2small.jpg
Svempa99 November 8th, 2006, 03:21 AM Wow! Those wooden things look funky!
Sideshow_Bob November 8th, 2006, 12:20 PM Yeah, they look cool!
NorthStar77 November 9th, 2006, 07:55 AM Plans for a 24 floor hotel in Stavanger
Arthur Buchard is planning to build a 24 floor hotel with 400 rooms in Sandvigå in Stavanger.
This is the area he wants to build it:
http://web3.aftenbladet.no/multimedia/archive/00147/sandvigaa_081106kv__147992i.jpg
The mayor in Stavanger is positive, and the "yes"-votes leads the poll in the local newspaper(come on, just vote people :D)
http://web3.aftenbladet.no/innenriks/okonomi/article370501.ece
Þróndeimr November 9th, 2006, 10:17 AM ^ 59% yes so far! :D
Very exiting planns, can't wait to see further information and renderings from that project.
siddis November 9th, 2006, 09:32 PM Great news! It is a nice place for a hotel, but it is not in the "highrise" area. It will have a great view of the city and the harbour. However, I hope it will be nicer than the first hotel Mr. Buchard built in Stavanger (Clarion).
Þróndeimr November 11th, 2006, 03:30 PM However, I hope it will be nicer than the first hotel Mr. Buchard built in Stavanger (Clarion).
Hopefully yes, much better, even though Clarion isn't the worst looking hotel, such as SAS Atlantic in Stavanger for exemple. :)
Another proposel that was declined in the Sirikjær competition. This one won third price, and is named "Watercity".
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Other/Watercity1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Other/Watercity2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Other/Watercity3small.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Other/Watercity4.jpg
ch1le November 11th, 2006, 03:33 PM /\awesome architecture, and im glad to say a couple arch bureaus here are approaching the same level of design!
NorthStar77 November 16th, 2006, 08:57 AM New gigamall in Kristiansand
Right across southern Norway's biggest shoppingmall Sørlandssenteret, the construction of a new mall 1.5 times bigger is starting these days. It will be finished autumn 2008. The mall will only have 9 shops, but it will be huge shops only, a so-called retail-park. Total retail area will be 55.000 sqmeter.
http://www.fvn.no/multimedia/archive/00282/s_rbygging3b468_282686a.jpg
http://www.fvn.no/multimedia/archive/00282/s_rbyggingb468_282684a.jpg
But Sørlandssenteret is also facing a huge extension. The plan is to build it together with another shoppincetre nearby, Berg senter, with an underground shopping-street. Extending the exsisting building is also happening as we speak. A total of 3500 people already work in shoppingcentres that is lined up in this area(compared to 0 when I was little), and this already causes a hell of alot of traffic, especially around christmas. Now that the area will get so much more retail area, and 1000-1500 new employers(+new employers when the exsisting malls are extended), I fear it will be even worse, although those in charge of the new mall ensures that they will make more roads to make the traffic flow better.
the new Sørlandssenteret+Berg senter built together (bad render)
http://www.fedrelandsvennen.no/multimedia/archive/00225/OBS_1_210_jpg_225855a.jpg
http://www.fvn.no/na24/article413700.ece
http://www.fvn.no/na24/article371572.ece
http://www.fvn.no/nyheter/kristiansand/article332419.ece
kjetilab November 16th, 2006, 11:11 AM Is that new mall what is usually called a strip-mall? It looks very american, and very car-based.
Rausa November 16th, 2006, 11:15 AM ^^ Looks like it, I don't really like those kind of malls. We have one at about the same size in my home town and the "infrastructure" is just stupid, this one looks abit better tho..
kjetilab November 18th, 2006, 01:03 PM Investor Bjørn Rune Gjelsten want's to develope the Lierstranda area just outside Drammen with a new stadium for the nearly promoted football team Strømsgodset, a large hotel and 1000 apartments. The entire project is estimated at between 5 and 6 billions NOK (approx €750 millions) The plans were presented to the Executive committee of local coucil in Lier on Thursday and to the press friday.
The architect is the same as for Molde stadium, Start stadium and Rica Seilet (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=ricaseilet-molde-norway), Kosberg arkitektkontor (http://www.kosberg.no/)
At the present the area is used to port related activities, like storage for imported cars and such.
The photos are rather bad, but the hotel looks tall at least...:)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2061/bilde1dz2.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5994/bilde2rf3.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8585/bildegm1.jpg
More is to be found in the local paper here (http://dt.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061117/SPORT/111170472/1099/FORSIDE) and here (http://dt.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061117/SPORT/61117004/1004/FORSIDE#)
(norwegian only)
Þróndeimr November 18th, 2006, 01:08 PM Very interesting, and Kosberg can do well, hopefully very well with that signal tower next to the stadium. :)
Þróndeimr December 8th, 2006, 01:28 AM A little summary or preview of all high-rise projects in Norway which are currently active. I have excluded a few old proposals which we haven't heard anything about for a long time, so the list should be quite decent! If you see anything missing, please list them!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Other/HighRiseListcopycopy1.gif
kjetilab December 8th, 2006, 09:32 PM Nice list, and here are a few corrections:)
Visma is 17 floors tall
And the Strømsgodset Stadium towers can be removed. It won't be build ever. (And thank good for that)
Þróndeimr December 9th, 2006, 12:00 AM Nice list, and here are a few corrections:)
Visma is 17 floors tall
And the Strømsgodset Stadium towers can be removed. It won't be build ever. (And thank good for that)
Ok, yeah was not sure about the Strømsgodset Stadium towers, as they are more like a vision similar to the recent proposal of the 150m tall building in Bergen. But im not that sure if that Tyin Panorama is a proposal or a vision. Well, its a developers vision, so its kinda bigger than Strømsgodset Stadium towers and those Bergen proposal which is more or less one persons dreams!
Spearman December 10th, 2006, 08:36 PM I also think (sadly) that MAD tower should be ranked as a vision, not a proposal. I'm not aware of anyone formally proposing going higher than Plaza, and if they did, I'm sure we'd hear from the nimbys.
vaidaspauzuolis December 11th, 2006, 07:18 PM Cool projects
Þróndeimr December 11th, 2006, 09:50 PM I also think (sadly) that MAD tower should be ranked as a vision, not a proposal. I'm not aware of anyone formally proposing going higher than Plaza, and if they did, I'm sure we'd hear from the nimbys.
You are (sadly) probably right, but i have to admit, its hard to put such a great project of the list, but i did it... :(
Check out the first page of this thread to see the latest lists, and a overview of all projects. :)
Þróndeimr December 11th, 2006, 09:55 PM Silo's to Kristiansand
Two new silo's has been proposed built in Marvika, Kristiansand. These two silos will be 70m tall and will be located close to the approved 56m tall/ 17 floor office tower at Start Stadion. This is so far just a development project, and if built they won't be completed untill 2020.
Article here: Her er Starts trumfkort (http://fotball.bt.no/eliteserien/article20311.ece#)
http://fotball.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00026/start_stadion_26768a.jpg
The 56m tall office building to the left, with the two proposed silos.
NorthStar77 December 12th, 2006, 08:37 AM wow! So two ugly 70 meter tall silos can be built without any debate or objection, but a nicely designed office tower on 56 meters causes much debate. But the good thing is that since the silos was already aproved, they could not say no to the office tower "as long as it is not higher than the silo":lol:
btw, this article is from march, strange that I have not seen it before!
Þróndeimr December 12th, 2006, 11:06 AM Yeah, but why do they need two 70m tall silo's for anyway?
NorthStar77 December 12th, 2006, 11:50 AM There's some kind of sement-factory there, I think :dunno:
Þróndeimr December 12th, 2006, 11:59 AM There's some kind of sement-factory there, I think :dunno:
Oh, that explains it i guess, i still have no idea why they need two 70m silo's for, storage for something? Hopefully they will move the factory a bit away from that area, Marvika won't look that good with those silo's there!
NorthStar77 December 12th, 2006, 12:28 PM I believe Marvika is where they get their raw materials from (stones). Besides, they've just used millions on making a new offramp from E-18 espesially for that factory, so I don't think they'll move now.
skog December 14th, 2006, 09:39 AM Some renders of HamKams new stadium, with a 10.200 capacity. Wonder why they want to build it that big, considering they would only fill it against Vålerenga anyway.
http://nrk.no/contentfile/file/1.1486576.1166032825!img1486558.jpg
http://nrk.no/contentfile/file/1.1486597.1166032920!img1486580.jpg
http://nrk.no/contentfile/file/1.1486620.1166033040!img1486602.jpg
Its supposed to be ready for 2010. They desperately need a new stadium anyways, bechause their current one it lodged between a bunch of houses. It is literally like they are playing in someones back yard.
kjetilab December 22nd, 2006, 01:31 PM It's been quite a while since last construction update... But first a new proposal.
In the bloc right next to the City Hall, Raadhushaven and the completed Høytorget terrasse the owners of most of the bloc wants to build 64 appartments and 20 shops. Gross floor area is estimated at 14.000 square metres. There are some preserable buildings in the bloc, most notaby a Art Nuveau building in Amtmand Bloms gate.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5362/engenezq8.jpg
A few updates.
- The Papirbredden University College building is completed
- The unknown office building mentioned on Grønland is completed. It's the new branch office for the state broadcasting corporation NRK.
- 3 out of 4 buildings in Bueslaget/Strømsø Perspektiv is completed
Elijaz: People have startet to move in, and the Subway have opened
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6692/elijaz01ex8.jpg
Kirkegata: Mostly completed
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1116/kirkegatacx7.jpg
Raahushaven: Construction of part 1 is under way
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7551/raadhushaven03mu8.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9085/raadhushaven01na4.jpg
muster January 11th, 2007, 06:30 PM The Hardangerbridge architecture ready:
http://www.vegvesen.no/servlet/Satellite?blobcol=urlpicture&blobheader=image%2Fjpeg&blobkey=id&blobtable=SVVbilde&blobwhere=1168004558849&ssbinary=true
http://multimedia.api.no/www.hardanger-folkeblad.no/archive/01088/AABruFront123_1088134a.jpg
Look at this!
http://www.vegvesen.no/servlet/Satellite?blobcol=urlpdf&blobheader=application%2Fpdf&blobkey=id&blobtable=SVVvedlegg&blobwhere=1168004559021&ssbinary=true
Facts:
Suspention bridge with total length 1380 meters.
Towers hight, 202 meters.
Þróndeimr January 11th, 2007, 07:01 PM Better than i first expected, great opening from the tunnels, and those masts looks huge, especially with that design. As far as i know they will have elevatores running to the top of the masts which will be open to the public.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Hardangerbrua1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Hardangerbrua3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Hardangerbrua2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Hardangerbrua4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Hardangerbrua5.jpg
Svempa99 January 11th, 2007, 08:36 PM Looks like a majestic bridge. It would have been cool if they could have attached the main cables directly to steep mountainsides. I have never seen that. Maybe they could have saved money if that would have been possible.
Insane alex January 11th, 2007, 10:11 PM Awesome bridge/tunnel! :D
Bergenser January 11th, 2007, 10:42 PM very nice bridge! :D
Marek.kvackaj January 12th, 2007, 01:26 AM one of best bridge I seen ever..and in nice country
Llinass January 12th, 2007, 07:22 AM WOW great bridge. What a long distance between these towers. How long it is?
NorthStar77 January 12th, 2007, 07:22 AM Looks like a majestic bridge.
I was just going to say the same!:)
Þróndeimr January 12th, 2007, 11:15 AM WOW great bridge. What a long distance between these towers. How long it is?
Main span is 1310m, so its quite a big span. Total bridge lenght is 1380m.
ch1le January 12th, 2007, 12:37 PM http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6692/elijaz01ex8.jpg
Is This new? Looks very 60s.
Anyhow that bridge is blody AWESOME, the way you go from tunnel to bridge.. ooh!
Spearman January 12th, 2007, 01:03 PM That looks just great! I think it will be something to be proud of. I just hope it's high enough above the water to allow the biggest cruise ships to get under it.
kjetilab January 12th, 2007, 02:00 PM http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6692/elijaz01ex8.jpg
Is This new? Looks very 60s.
It's brand new. Maybe the lightening makes it look old. I think it fits quite well into the surroundings, and the fact that it doesn't have a white concrete facade with glass balconies, as nearly all other contruction projects in Drammen at the moment is a big plus in my opinion.
Þróndeimr January 12th, 2007, 02:28 PM That looks just great! I think it will be something to be proud of. I just hope it's high enough above the water to allow the biggest cruise ships to get under it.
It should be, the lengt between the sea level and the road structure is 53m by the masts, and looks like to be a few meters higher on the middel of the bridge, so some 55m to 60m.
IceCheese January 13th, 2007, 01:41 AM Great bridge! To bad they're not going to put it a place it would be used, though... Traffic today: 1150 cars/24h.
Imagine that bridge over the Drøbaksundet by Oslo, in stead of that stupid underwater tunnel, that's probably going to fall apart in 0-20 years anyways (or so geologists say). That would've been the perfect way to welcome tourists entering our capital the seaway.
NorthStar77 January 15th, 2007, 08:40 AM Maybe I'm wrong, but won't this road become the fastest route between Oslo and Bergen when the bridge is finished?
skog January 15th, 2007, 12:32 PM Maybe I'm wrong, but won't this road become the fastest route between Oslo and Bergen when the bridge is finished?
It that's so, why did they build the big tunnel? I've had it with this country pouring money into places where people dont even live.
NorthStar77 January 15th, 2007, 01:28 PM ^so that there are an alternative when one of the roads needs to close, for example in winter?
I don't know, and I'm fed up of money beeing poured into the wrong projects too, but I think this one isn't such a bad idea(not sure though).
Þróndeimr January 15th, 2007, 01:55 PM Well, this bridge or Lærdalstunnelen is in a area of much interest, between Bergen and Oslo (and it needs better comminucation), and its not the least populated area either. And the bridge is rather cheap compared to a few other projects, as in Oslo and a few other of the bigger cities in Norway, so i think its appropriate for Hardangerfjorden.
skog January 15th, 2007, 01:57 PM ^so that there are an alternative when one of the roads needs to close, for example in winter?
I don't know, and I'm fed up of money beeing poured into the wrong projects too, but I think this one isn't such a bad idea(not sure though).
If it werent for Kjell Opseth, that tunell would've been cheaper and shorter. Having a minister of transport from Sogn og Fjordane is always an incredibly bad idea.
NorthStar77 January 15th, 2007, 02:57 PM So true, lol. That man was horrible. Luckily it is a while since he was in charge.
Maxx☢Power January 24th, 2007, 01:56 PM In my opinion it looks too dark, and square'ish, not sure if this fits Trondheim, and surely public opinion will be strongly against this.
Hah, what else could one expect? I just found this call to arms in my mail today :)
http://nebuchadnezzar.interinter.net/nimby.jpg
Woah! 17 storeys? Are you mad?
The proposed building will apparently "soar 50 meters above the ground" with its possibly up to and including 17 storeys.
Now, this area is probably one of the most NIMBY-infected parts of town, so I wouldn't really expect any less..
Spearman January 25th, 2007, 04:33 PM Good. When the nimbys converge, the ISAF force of MrD clones will be saved the trouble of hunting them down.
muster January 29th, 2007, 10:01 PM I`m not sure if this have been presented before, so here I go. Looks like Alta have approved a highrise-complex with two towers (8 and 15 floors). Doesn`t look bad at all...
http://www.hegnar.no/images/news/alta_signalbygg_442.jpg
http://www.altaposten.no/multimedia/archive/00048/Arctic_Tower_48335g.jpg
costs 250 mill nok
IceCheese January 30th, 2007, 12:13 AM Hmmm... Alta is the new height-capital? Rather small place to build a 15-floorer... But with that and the Nordlyskatedral, it would be a real place of interest for us pro-highrise'rs... Maybe to use it to convince some narrow-sighted Oslo-NIMBYs!
But I haven't heard of it before... Pretty new to me!
jorgen February 1st, 2007, 12:49 PM Trondheim will get Scandinavias largest conference hotel complex. Completion in October 2009.
This is of course on Brattøra.
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00686/Hotell-Bratt_ra-3_3_686384b.jpg
More details (in norwegian):
http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article796292.ece
Þróndeimr February 3rd, 2007, 11:16 AM High-rise in Alta, Wow, thats a surprise if you ask me, but great! :yes:
The new hotel in Brattøra looks awesome. Sad they didn't go trough with the 20 story tall hotel as first proposed, but this looks like a pretty fine proposal. And the conferance hotel which will be Scandinavias largest conference hotel complex will be sitiated next to Scandinavias largest indoor swimming center complex! :)
Þróndeimr April 21st, 2007, 01:22 PM Nordlyskatedralen (The Aurora/Northern Light Cathedral) approved
Alta - Finnmark
Norwegian architect firm LinkSignatur and the Danish Schmidt, Hammer & Lassen published this project several years ago, but due to difficulties financing this project its been on hold for several years. But all parts has now commed togather, and the cathedral was approved in January 2007 by the Alta City Council. The 2 100sqm cathedral will start construction in the summer of 2008.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Nordlyskatedralen1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Nordlyskatedralen2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Nordlyskatedralen3-1.jpg
Spearman April 23rd, 2007, 10:38 AM ^^ :carrot: See; that is what I'm talking about when I complain about construcition in Oslo! It's not so hard after all, is it? I think this by far is the most beautiful building on the horizon in Norway (at least that I know about). :)
IceCheese April 23rd, 2007, 08:15 PM Beautiful building! Too bad it's only going to be a church...
Þróndeimr April 28th, 2007, 12:18 PM ^^ :carrot: See; that is what I'm talking about when I complain about construcition in Oslo! It's not so hard after all, is it? I think this by far is the most beautiful building on the horizon in Norway (at least that I know about). :)
Yeah, this is the sort of architecture we should get much more of in Norway, and especially Oslo, which aim to become a modern city with architecture they will be famous for!
Þróndeimr June 27th, 2007, 11:15 PM New shopping mall in Steinkjer, Nord Trøndelag
The planns of building the two existing shopping malls Globus with some 60 stores and AMFI Zebra with 45 stores has been launched. Construction start will already take place this autumn, 2007. The new shopping mall will count some 60 000 square meters with 130 stores, as the biggest north of Dovre. The estimated costs of the project is 600 million kroner. The owners hope to see a annual turnover around 1.2 billion NOK after this center is completed and opened, as one of the 10 largest shopping malls in Norway.
http://tsimg.no.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Avis=TS&Dato=20070627&Kategori=NYHETER&Lopenr=70627001&Ref=AR&MaxW=580
Þróndeimr July 9th, 2007, 12:33 AM This thread is old, long and horrible, a new thread is ready, visit it here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=496299)!
This thread is now closed and dead!
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