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dave8721
October 21st, 2005, 03:20 PM
Rail72 is going waaay up north at NE 72nd St and NE 4th AVE on a rail yard.

Map of site:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=7205+NE+4th+Ave,+miami&ll=25.844200,-80.189080&spn=0.019006,0.040076&t=k&hl=en

Here is the rendering by the way, basically in the middle of lowrises and single family homes:
http://www.dbla1.us/images/proj_rail72_d.jpg

http://www.dbla1.us/images/proj_rail72_C.jpg

Toucano
October 21st, 2005, 04:18 PM
Anyone have more details on rail72???

jzquince69
October 22nd, 2005, 04:16 PM
What exactly is Rail72 supposed to be? What's under the glass? Are they preserving the rail lines?

The Mad Hatter!!
November 11th, 2005, 10:06 PM
my attempt at making a future skyline----really not accurate in any way,many buildings missings and many placeholders were included-heights are a bit off,and midtown had to be over densified because the picture was not big enough to fit all the towers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/IconView1s.png

Dale
November 11th, 2005, 10:36 PM
Wow ! Hatter. that's awesome ! And maybe even pretty close to what we're going to get by 2010.

dave8721
November 11th, 2005, 11:28 PM
What did the pic look like at first for comparisons sake?

The Mad Hatter!!
November 11th, 2005, 11:38 PM
i had to make the picture smaller because it was way to big to be uploaded at photbucket
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/IconView1.jpg

dave8721
November 12th, 2005, 01:16 AM
:master: I humbly relinquish the "poster of the week" award to Hatter. Good work.:bow:

ChuckScraperMiami#1
November 13th, 2005, 02:13 AM
:master: Mr. Mad Uptown Hatter :righton: , your Bad !!!, lol, Fantastic Picture of our Future " Magic City " :applause: , are you sure your not 36 instead of 16, Great job :okay: , my friend :wink2: . and Go Cranes !!! :cheers1:

rider_of_rohan
November 13th, 2005, 02:25 AM
Hatter that is very cool. Hey does that include the Freedom tower project? Man there seems to be a pretty good sized gap in that area. Someone should put a 70 story office tower there :D

nimbyhater
November 13th, 2005, 07:41 AM
god damn... compare it to the original and u just wanna cry

Displaced Miami Man
November 13th, 2005, 04:03 PM
Great job Mad!!! Very impressive!!

Chi_Coruscant
November 14th, 2005, 04:46 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/IconView1s.png
Very nice! Miami is on the way to overtake LA skyline. :tongue4:

DGM
November 16th, 2005, 07:43 PM
Has anyone seen the interactive skyline at www.miamidda.com recently? It seems they have been updating it with more projects. While browsing through it I noticed the building at 1440 Brickell Ave (theyre calling it Park Place) is supposedly under construction. Does anyone know where to find better renderings of that project? The rendering on miamidda.com is pretty cool but doesnt show the second tower.

dave8721
November 16th, 2005, 08:22 PM
http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/051117/fyi.shtml

AT CONDO BUILDING, WE'RE TOPS: Miami ranks first in the nation in the number of residential condominiums under construction, according to a Wall Street Journal report last week. The paper lists 6,390 units rising, significantly ahead of No. 2 New York, with 3,607. The paper says Miami had 3,999 units under construction a year ago. The Journal says condo prices here have gained 122% in the past five years - good for No. 20 nationally in percentage increase.

Dale
November 16th, 2005, 10:40 PM
dave -

This is the trump card you need to keep in your backpocket for all those bad, bad Chicago people. ;)

Roark
November 17th, 2005, 12:07 AM
Yeah...and the Toronto contigent as well.

The Mad Hatter!!
November 17th, 2005, 03:16 AM
edit

DGM
November 17th, 2005, 03:20 AM
Wow look how tiny the BoA tower looks with all those other towers everywhere.

Dale
November 17th, 2005, 04:57 AM
Wow look how tiny the BoA tower looks with all those other towers everywhere.

It looks kind of cute, doesn't it ? :)

dave8721
November 17th, 2005, 06:10 AM
I don't know where you'd find renderings of Citi Centre or Flatiron from that angle. You'd have to do some flipping. Flatiron would pretty much block out Plaza from that angle, but you'd be able to squeeze Icon in.

BornInTheGrove
November 17th, 2005, 08:23 AM
awesome hatter!... good job =)

streetscapeer
November 17th, 2005, 08:47 PM
great, great stuff...and to think, this is only Brickell, and doesn't include everything.


thanks a lot Hatter:D

The Mad Hatter!!
November 17th, 2005, 11:27 PM
edit

DGM
November 17th, 2005, 11:38 PM
Its looking good Hatter. Keep it up.

The Mad Hatter!!
November 17th, 2005, 11:42 PM
thanks dgm, now i need you guys help i need to know what buildings i'm i missing
i know i need 500brickell and icon brickell,pointe brickell,avenue and brickellon the river but what else is missing for the brickell area only.

Displaced Miami Man
November 18th, 2005, 01:28 AM
Fantastic work Mad. I think you have them all. Keep up the great work! Would love to see it with all the Downtown stuff. I know you will make it look great when its all said and done.

rider_of_rohan
November 18th, 2005, 05:37 AM
Good work hatter. Man the old buildings arent looking so tall anymore :)

dave8721
November 18th, 2005, 02:32 PM
thanks dgm, now i need you guys help i need to know what buildings i'm i missing
i know i need 500brickell and icon brickell,pointe brickell,avenue and brickellon the river but what else is missing for the brickell area only.

Reflections is missing, as are a few small western Brickell buildings but those aren't important. I haven't seen a rendering for the new 600 Brickell building yet. I haven't seen the taller version of Beacon yet either, or the third tower for 500 Brickell.

Rx727sfl2002
November 18th, 2005, 03:58 PM
you need to work on your perspectives a bit citi center looks like its 1200ft (twice as tall) compared to premiere towers which are about 600ft tall

The Mad Hatter!!
November 18th, 2005, 11:23 PM
alright then just for you rx i fixed brickell citicentre
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/brickellskylinepanocopy6fpv232.jpg

Displaced Miami Man
November 19th, 2005, 04:05 AM
Keep up the great work Mad. Now, just add the downtown stuff and this pic will be hotter than hell! Rock on Mad!

Rx727sfl2002
November 19th, 2005, 06:06 AM
looks great if you put it in perspective with latitude on the river you notice that latitude is about 420ft so brickell citi center is twice as large which is correct you fixed that one and it looks great...

now fix the flatiron which is a bit to tall and the 1400 brickell property
one way of knowing true dimension dr aw a line from the wachovia roof top to the four seasons... the wachovia is 768ft and the four seasons is 790 almost 800...almost same size so the roof hieght of the flat iron and 1400 brickell property should be a little past the line but not by to much...

Toucano
November 19th, 2005, 10:54 PM
What is that Building Next To the Washinton Mutual Building next to the MetroRail....Its Infront of Premiere in the picture....

The Mad Hatter!!
November 19th, 2005, 11:02 PM
skyline mary brickell village

Toucano
November 20th, 2005, 05:38 PM
Ha ha, Thats Right! I forgot about that one...

ChuckScraperMiami#1
November 25th, 2005, 11:05 PM
alright then just for you rx i fixed brickell citicentre
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/brickellskylinepanocopy6fpv232.jpg

Mad Uptown Hatter :) , darn it, your great !!!, love this future picture :cheers: , and it will be completed this way in 2011, only dissapointment is no more Night colors of the Bank of America Tower at around 2010 :sleepy: .

dave8721
December 7th, 2005, 07:38 PM
http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/051208/story4.shtml

Miami expects $9 million in tax revenue from condo developments

By Deserae del Campo
With the condominium boom changing the Miami skyline, city officials expect $9 million in total tax revenue next year from condo development - money that will be used to finance city operations.
"This money is channeled into the city's police and fire departments along with solid waste," said Larry Spring, chief of strategic planning and budgeting for the City of Miami. "We provide our residents with the proper public services, along with financing our parks and public works."
During the city's budget hearings, he said, "I inform city commissioners, for the record, where this money is being used."
"The revenue from the tax assessment and from condo development is distributed to every single neighborhood in the city," Mr. Spring said, "and distributed to all city departments for them to use."
According to city planning records, 54 residential projects are completed within the city and 64 are in construction phases. The total of construction costs is $8.2 billion.
Currently, 90 projects are in the pipeline with construction costs estimated at $14.2 billion.
For 2005, the county assessed the total residential property at $5.2 million.
"The $5.2 million is what Miami-Dade County has assessed," said Mr. Spring, "and it represents the increase in our property tax value from last year to this year. The revenue gained is used to support all city functions. We also use this money to pay salaries and provide benefits to our workers."
The city does expect the tax revenue to continue to increase within the next couple of years, he said, but over time it should level off and the increase will not be as great as it is now.
"Over the last four years, under the advice from Mayor Manny Diaz, we have added to our reserves," Mr. Spring said. "The hard work from the finance department, the city manager and employees all pushing for the same goal to make us fiscally accountable as we move forward into the future."

dave8721
December 12th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Good to know our new buildings are getting attention. World renowned architects now WANT to build here and are looking for opportunities to do so.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/13386276.htm

UP FRONT ARCHITECTURE


From child's play to renown - with a creative eye on the 'wow' in Miami

International architect Zaha Hadid says Miami has 'amazing spaces.' She hopes to build here.

By AUDRA D.S. BURCH

aburch@herald.com


Zaha Hadid has been designing buildings -- bombastic structures that held gravity hostage, reinterpreted space, captivated the world -- almost as long as she can remember, her first project being the tiny blocks of furniture rearranged in her bedroom nearly 50 years ago.

Such child's play would evolve into something bigger both in dreams and in drama. After spending years as a ''paper architect'' -- her genius closeted, her most ambitious, theatrical and acclaimed projects confined to paper -- Hadid erected her first major building in 1993. It was the first of several urban experiments in faraway places like Germany and England and France and Austria and the American Midwest.

Now more marveled at than misunderstood, Hadid last year became the first woman to win the Pritzker Architecture Prize, the highest honor in an industry peopled mostly by men.

She is at the helm of a number of impressive projects all over the world, mostly in Europe, but she would like to get her hands on Miami, a place she sees as a young urban city hungry for a public architectural statement.

''I love Miami!'' Hadid said at the unveiling of Elastika, her Art Basel, site-specific installation in the Moore Building in Miami's Design District. 'It has amazing spaces. It just needs the `wow' factor. I really want to do something here.''

Though Art Basel is over, its shine is lasting, exposing A-list artists such as Hadid to South Florida, opening the door for future projects. Had Hadid's work not been in Miami and been so warmly received, the city may not have made her wish list. Hadid's wish to put her imprint on Miami's skyline is likely to be fulfilled even though there are no projects yet on the table.

Hadid is a blur of urban black, and at her Art Basel project she seemed especially oblivious to the watchers wading through the Moore atrium early one afternoon. They point and whisper because somebody famous and brilliant and coy has entered the place.

Still, Hadid is so much more focused on what she created overhead in the Moore Building -- a spectacular and somewhat mysterious oblique white stretch that spans the space like chewing gum. Hadid designed the work, like her other creations that trounce on the most basic architectural norms, to pose spatial questions.

LINES AND CURVES

Hers is a work embodied by boundless lines and undulating curves and an absolute refusal to walk straight lines or turn right angles. Its power, its strand of surprises, is often in what it is not.

Ambra Medda, the organizer of design.05, which showed the posh furniture collections of galleries around the world and honored Hadid, said she was the perfect choice, the perfect symbol of art, space and design.

''We were looking for someone to define the space in a dynamic way,'' Medda said. ``She took a building that is eclectic and projected it into the future.''

The design was born in Hadid's home base in London, constructed in Austria, installed in Miami. She explains the creation: ''I wanted to do something that plays with the idea of vertical spacing and bridging spaces,'' said Hadid, the daughter of an affluent Iraqi family.

This is the language, somewhat abstract, of a woman who has manipulated space for nearly a quarter-century.

Just five years after graduating from architecture school in London, Hadid debuted by winning an international design competition in Hong Kong. For an exclusive club and apartments in the belly of a mountain that reigned over the city, Hadid offered a series of drawings and paintings. It was called the The Peak.

The renderings, Hadid's brilliant idea of how people live and play above a glittering metropolis, made her a celebrity architect -- even though The Peak was never realized. She would later design other spaces and win other competitions that never made it beyond pen and paper, most notably the 1994 Cardiff Bay Opera House in Wales.

Hadid sees those unbuilt projects as more a matter of timing than rejection.

''It took the world time to catch up with fantastic visions,'' she said. ``Now they are more familiar.''

Which is to say that the world finally opened up to her and other visionaries' outlook -- folks like Frank Gehry (Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao, Spain now designing a rehearsal and performance hall in Miami Beach for the New World Symphony), and Daniel Libeskinds (upcoming World Trade Center site).

DIVERSE WORKS

Suddenly, or perhaps not so suddenly, Hadid's mark was all over the place: the Vitra Fire Station in Germany; a tram station and car park in Strasbourg; the Bergisel Ski Jump tower in Innsbruck, Austria; and the Rosenthal Center for Contemporary Art in Cincinnati, which The New York Times described as the most important American building erected since the Cold War.

The BMW Central Plant Building in Leipzig, among her most whimsical and visually brilliant gems, features conveyor belts that carry brand-new cars across the plant -- and through open offices and reception areas.

The Cincinnati project came along at a time when cities across the country were commissioning celebrity architects for public spaces. The works of Hadid, Gehry and Santiago Calatrava beautifully changed skylines, broadened the notion of civic design, and spurred their own brand of cultural tourism, for people as interested in the outside as the inside.

''A city is better off with a designed public works,'' Hadid said. ``It gives people a forum to discuss space and how we live in it and how we relate to it. You are free to discuss your environment.''

Hadid is deeply committed to the study of space, not just in etching and renderings, but in real life. Good design, she believes, is a necessary thread in the city's cultural fabric.

''Fundamentally, this is about shelter and well-being; a place should feel good, live or work well in a space,'' she said.

Currently, her projects include a train station in Napoli-Afragola, Italy; a museum in Glasgow, Scotland; the Guangzhou Opera House in China; and perhaps most remarkably, an Aquatic Center for the 2012 London Olympics crowned with a roof shaped like a stormy wave.

''Everybody experiences spaces in a different way,'' she said. ``Ultimately, I am trying to create places that make you think about space in a different way.''

DGM
December 12th, 2005, 10:06 PM
For any of you that are unfamiliar with her work this is the Rosenthal Center for Contemporary Art in Cincinatti:

http://www.architecture.com/imageLibrary/jpeg330/5901.jpg

Zaha Hadid happened to be the last architect we discussed in my architecture history course this semester so that building is still fresh in my mind. How cool would it be if she designed the new MAM at museum park?

Dale
December 12th, 2005, 10:09 PM
I think it's safe to say that whatever Hadid designs for Miami will not involve med tile.

Meepy
December 12th, 2005, 10:10 PM
I dont like that Rosenhalth center. Looks like something trying to be modern with original design, but losses Symetry, not my type. Thats my opinion.

DGM
December 12th, 2005, 10:25 PM
Modern architecture rarely tries to achieve symmetry though. And keep in mind that she is a pritzker prize winner, she isn't trying to rip off anyone's style she clearly has her own. I'm really excited to hear that she wants to build something in Miami. Even if you don't like her stuff you have to admit that it is encouraging to hear that one of the biggest names in contemporary architecture wants to work here.

The Mad Hatter!!
December 12th, 2005, 11:54 PM
i like some of hadid's stuff especially the bmw plant,its innovative and quite daring but i want to see some more completed works of hers because most of her designs are unbuilt because there usually quite expensive

Meepy
December 13th, 2005, 12:06 AM
i like some of hadid's stuff especially the bmw plant,its innovative and quite daring but i want to see some more completed works of hers because most of her designs are unbuilt because there usually quite expensive

Woah! she made the BMW plant? I love that place. Now I change my mind, never knew she did such a piece of art work.

The Mad Hatter!!
December 13th, 2005, 12:20 AM
well time for some more pictures i guess
bmw main factory-by hadid
this is the most innovative factory i've ever seen ,the cars pass over head of the designers by conveyers,can you imagine your doing a desk job and you have cars passing right above you its quite sick
http://www.baulinks.de/webplugin/2005/i/1218-bmw1.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/graphics/slideshows/upixriba/riba7.jpg

BornInTheGrove
December 13th, 2005, 04:49 AM
Lololololol... she could design a nice cigar factory.... have nice completed cigars packed in boxes go overhead of the workers rolling them.

lolol im j/k

archifreese
December 13th, 2005, 07:18 PM
guys seriously i dont see miami or any of its developers paying for or going through the effort to get hadid on a project. remember gehry and soundspace for the new world symphony? thats probably not happening and i think the same thing would happen to a hadid project. the CMB board basically wanted to reduce the gehry building because it didnt respecct the context form and language of the city. now imagine what they must think of a hadid building relative to their precious 'context'. i just dont see it happening. (Also see Koolhaas and the PAC)

streetscapeer
December 13th, 2005, 07:20 PM
cool news!

Rx727sfl2002
December 14th, 2005, 12:06 AM
actually your not supposedd to know this yet but she is designing one of the towers at midtown miami... 7 or 8 im not sure which was the number....

The Mad Hatter!!
December 14th, 2005, 12:26 AM
sweet...finally midtown has the money to hire these expensive architects and it will make there project more popular

DGM
December 14th, 2005, 12:47 AM
guys seriously i dont see miami or any of its developers paying for or going through the effort to get hadid on a project. remember gehry and soundspace for the new world symphony? thats probably not happening and i think the same thing would happen to a hadid project. the CMB board basically wanted to reduce the gehry building because it didnt respecct the context form and language of the city. now imagine what they must think of a hadid building relative to their precious 'context'. i just dont see it happening. (Also see Koolhaas and the PAC)

Her work wouldn't be out of place in midtown. BTW, thanks for the info Rx. I can't wait to see midtown in 5 to 10 years.

nimbyhater
December 14th, 2005, 01:02 AM
how the hell do u get this shit rx? that is if midtown gets to tower 7 or 8... we got the apocalyptical bubble and the nimbys to deal with to get that far

rider_of_rohan
December 14th, 2005, 01:27 AM
^^^^they will be built by the neighborhood association

Michelangelo.
December 14th, 2005, 07:11 AM
Perhaps there's still hope for this city.. We need architects with vision, but a vision of the future.. no more the mediocrity of imitating the past...........!!!!

DGM
December 14th, 2005, 10:35 AM
Yea I think the Art Deco style can only go so far and can almost be gimmicky at a point. And the mediterranean stlye houses all around miami can be sort of boring. Anyhow architectural variety can never hurt a community. How cool would it be to put up an uber modern house in the middle of those west kendall or broward cookie cutter communities. Maybe with a slight mediterranean motif and a flamingo in the lawn to be ironic...

Roark
December 14th, 2005, 02:03 PM
guys seriously i dont see miami or any of its developers paying for or going through the effort to get hadid on a project. remember gehry and soundspace for the new world symphony? thats probably not happening and i think the same thing would happen to a hadid project. the CMB board basically wanted to reduce the gehry building because it didnt respecct the context form and language of the city. now imagine what they must think of a hadid building relative to their precious 'context'. i just dont see it happening. (Also see Koolhaas and the PAC)I think it is more like the New World Symphony took Gehry at his estimate of $14M cost for his preliminary drawings and then had a dose of reality after further investigation and realized the project would be closer to $50M. The City is donating the land ($1 per year lease) the New World Symphony is raising the cash to build it.
Developers will certainly develop with Star architects if the market will bare the prices necessary to pay for them. Carlos Ott and Richard Meir projects come to mind.

dave8721
December 14th, 2005, 02:28 PM
^^^^they will be built by the neighborhood association

Good one :hahaha:

dave8721
December 14th, 2005, 04:49 PM
http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp

The spreadsheet is updated. The BIG news that I see is that Met3 has FINALLY been updated. Its listed at 803 feet. Not the 866 feet that they claim but not the 786 feet that it had been listed at for the last year. That would give credence to Citicentre's claim that 808 ft would make them the tallest.

Also the 52-story tower on 79th Street is on there as is the mysterious 1080 Brickell building, where the hell is 1080 Brickell? Maybe they are tearing down the 1100 Brickell building??

dave8721
December 14th, 2005, 05:07 PM
More detailed look:
(How did I miss this) 600 BRICKELL NOW LISTED AT 903 FEET!!! With 952,000 sqft of office and 360 hotel rooms too.

Other stuff:
-1490 Biscayne downsized from 744ft to 657ft
-COR is 17 stories, 337ft (Tall ceilings I guess)

rider_of_rohan
December 14th, 2005, 05:20 PM
http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp

The spreadsheet is updated. The BIG news that I see is that Met3 has FINALLY been updated. Its listed at 803 feet. Not the 866 feet that they claim but not the 786 feet that it had been listed at for the last year. That would give credence to Citicentre's claim that 808 ft would make them the tallest.

Also the 52-story tower on 79th Street is on there as is the mysterious 1080 Brickell building, where the hell is 1080 Brickell? Maybe they are tearing down the 1100 Brickell building??

Well at least Met 3 is still on there, and its over 800 feet (build the damn thing). That 900 footer sounds interesting too. That 79th street project is a joke, they have no grasp on reality at all.

Dale
December 14th, 2005, 05:54 PM
Wow, all that hullabaloo on Met 3 and it gains 17 ft. Oh well, at least Miami cracks that stubborn 800 ft. barrier.

rider_of_rohan
December 14th, 2005, 07:29 PM
^^^ havent yet, hopefully will

Dale
December 14th, 2005, 07:35 PM
I'm not terribly worried about Met 3.

dave8721
December 14th, 2005, 09:46 PM
Also Marquis West was upped from 400 to 496 feet and Max Tower (Verite) got chopped from 508 ft all the way down to 400 feet. Urbana was cut from 549 ft to 435ft.

Also added Hotel de l'Opera (right behind (west) of Opera Tower and Bay Park Plaza apts) 34 stories, 381 feet. 400 hotel rooms.

DGM
December 14th, 2005, 10:16 PM
More detailed look:
(How did I miss this) 600 BRICKELL NOW LISTED AT 903 FEET!!! With 952,000 sqft of office and 360 hotel rooms too.

For a second there I read 600 Biscayne. Imagine that behind the freedom tower. Anyhow 600 brickell is a good location. That will connect the brickell and CBD skylines.

Dale
December 14th, 2005, 10:20 PM
I wonder if the reduction of Met 3 stinks of FAA. If so, if you can't build any higher than that in that location, what prayer do any of the taller projects have ?

Maybe it just has to do with a design change.

dave8721
December 14th, 2005, 10:32 PM
For a second there I read 600 Biscayne. Imagine that behind the freedom tower. Anyhow 600 brickell is a good location. That will connect the brickell and CBD skylines.

Also gets rid of the last huge surface parking lot in the area.

The Mad Hatter!!
December 14th, 2005, 10:59 PM
sorry but met3 can go to hell,citicentre is better looking anyways.

anyone think 600brickell has a chance?

rider_of_rohan
December 14th, 2005, 11:01 PM
Also Marquis West was upped from 400 to 496 feet and Max Tower (Verite) got chopped from 508 ft all the way down to 400 feet. Urbana was cut from 549 ft to 435ft.

Also added Hotel de l'Opera (right behind (west) of Opera Tower and Bay Park Plaza apts) 34 stories, 381 feet. 400 hotel rooms.

Max tower??? geeze that makes me think of Homer Simpson (Max Power) not the vision you want to come into your head if your a person looking into buy a condo. Lots of chopping going on, not good.

dave8721
December 19th, 2005, 03:44 PM
An interesting article on development in Miami quoting a few architects from around the area. Its waaay too long to post here so I'll post some quotes:

http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2005/12/19/focus1.html?page=1

Take a walk around South Florida and the region's architectural aesthetics become apparent.

Details like a well-placed palm tree and the classic Florida room mingle with chattahoochee patios and red-barrel rooftops on Mediterranean-style buildings. The playful lines and futuristic features of a Miami Modern hotel are as familiar as the circular driveways that front most ranch-style homes.

But scattered stucco clone buildings join bland, boxy condominium towers here, along with suffocating parking monoliths - part of our history of plastering over earth and beach with pavement.

"The best part of South Florida architecture can be described as whimsical and innovative," prolific Miami architect Bernard Zyscovich said. "The worst parts are predictable and boring."


"When you go into a city, towers start at the podium. When you look at Miami, the first six floors or so are parking garages," Zyscovich noted. "I think parking spaces are offensive. I think great cities in the world haven't been so concerned with parking."

Renowned architects from around the world are flocking to the region to design innovative structures that will redefine the area's identity.

Downtown Miami's new performing arts center, now under construction, was crafted from the plans of Argentine architect César Pelli, who created the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia - currently the tallest twin towers in the world.

Mexican-born architect Enrique Norten - who sat on the jury for the World Trade Center site competition and has been chosen to design a Guggenheim museum - has created a mixed-use project in Miami Beach called Lincoln East.

Frank Gehry - widely known for designing the titanium-covered Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao, Spain - has been commissioned to create a music laboratory for the New World Symphony in Miami Beach. It will be the Los Angeles-based architect's first project in Florida and a personal one: He and the symphony's conductor, Michael Tilson Thomas, are childhood friends.

Modernist architect Richard Meier was tapped to create a glass condo that will replace the Beach House Hotel in Surfside.

Currently South Florida is evolving out of the Mediterranean designs that have given a sense of place to the region - from Coral Gables to Boca Raton - and toward fresh, cutting-edge designs that are sleek and clean. They rely largely on glass to reflect sunlight, sky and water - the region's natural attributes.

"Right now, there is so much product that design is one of the tools developers use to distinguish themselves from their competition," Jacqueline Gonzalez-Touzet said.

Individuality in new structures is ushering in an era of originality.

"I find it in the individual residences," said international architect Carlos Ott, designer of Fortune International's Jade Ocean project in Sunny Isles Beach. "More anonymous buildings are breaking the barriers of taboos, as it has always happened in the history of architecture. In many cases, the imagination and courage of owners and architects is the reason for the introduction of new palettes, forms, ambiances, atmospheres. The same, I believe, can be said of commercial projects such as restaurants and boutique interiors."

Maxim98
December 19th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Hiya guys. I'm a poster from the Florida forum and silently follow thigns down in Miami. Quck question. While browsing your threads, I found a link to a real estate site that compiled all of the projects going up in Miami. It hand renderings and offie contact info. I'd really like to find it so I can read up on a few projects. If anyone has the link, please, please, post it. Thanks sooo much.

The Mad Hatter!!
December 19th, 2005, 07:19 PM
might you remember the name of the site because they're are quite a few sites

www.miamirealestatetrends.com
www.miami-condolifestyle.com
www.buymiaminow.com
www.markzilbert.com

rider_of_rohan
December 20th, 2005, 04:49 AM
Chiquita's rejection raises concerns about land scarcity

By Claudio Mendonça
With Chiquita Brands International deciding to keep its world headquarters in Cincinnati instead of moving to South Florida, office space specialists worry that other large multinationals won't settle in Miami because the region lacks space and land prices are too high.
Chiquita, one of the world's largest banana producers, had thought of moving its headquarters to a 100,000-square-foot site in Sunrise and using Port Everglades as a shipping point. But officials decided to stay in the Midwest, at least for now.
Besides Sunrise, Chiquita had been eying Atlanta and Miami, but lack of adequate space eliminated Miami in the early rounds.
"The truth is that right now, Miami-Dade County does not have a place where actually a company that big can come in," said Dale Graham, senior vice president of the Allen Morris Co., a specialist in commercial real estate.
Jack Lowell, vice chairman of Codina Realty Inc., said he believes South Florida lost Chiquita because of lack of land availability and its high cost.
"I think that they felt land was expensive," said Mr. Lowell. He said he believes the multinational might have received some economic incentives from local or state government to stay in Cincinnati.
More optimistic is Beacon Council President Frank Nero, who said that in 12-15 months, Miami-Dade will have numerous 100,000-square-foot facilities that could house an incoming giant like Chiquita. Some are already rising, he said, in downtown, Beacon Lakes, Beacon Station and Doral.
"We are disappointed that they did not choose South Florida," said Mr. Nero, who heads Miami-Dade County's economic development agency. "But the reality is that we would only have a facility ready for Chiquita in 15 months and not by the fall, as they desired."
Public officials can offer to build a site for a major newcomer, Mr. Graham said, though it would take at least two years to complete a facility.
To retain Burger King's global headquarters, Mr. Graham said, the public sector provided space so the fast-food giant could construct buildings. "We can do it, but we have to buy land. But still, building would take at least two years," Mr. Graham said.
Chiquita might have preferred to stay in Ohio, Mr. Graham said, because land prices are lower than in Miami-Dade or Broward counties.
"The proliferation of the residential luxury condo market has driven land prices higher than developers can buy," he said. "Developers need to find affordable land to construct office buildings that make sense. Competition is greater for office space here in South Florida. Right now is a great time to sell, not a good time to buy."
The short-term solution, he said, may be to create clusters of infill land that "sooner or later can accommodate development."

http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/051215/story3.shtml

Maxim98
December 21st, 2005, 11:19 PM
might you remember the name of the site because they're are quite a few sites

www.miamirealestatetrends.com
www.miami-condolifestyle.com
www.buymiaminow.com
www.markzilbert.com

Re trends is it. Thanks much mate. :)

dave8721
December 25th, 2005, 07:21 AM
By the way guys, the night before my wedding a couple of days ago I was in my brothers room on the 17th floor of the Wyndam in MB facing west and I decided to count up how many cranes I could see from just that one window. My total? 29 (a view from the CBD up through Edgewater/Arts District with a nice view of North Bay Village as well, Brickell was obscured and I couldn't see north to Sunny Isles)

DGM
December 25th, 2005, 06:01 PM
Congrats, dave. BTW, there's a crane at the Collonade site in Kendall. I don't think anyone has mentioned that one. Oh and does anyone know what's going between the dadeland north metrorail and the dadeland station building? The parking lot has been removed there and chain link fences set up.

Toucano
December 26th, 2005, 05:59 AM
Huge Crane also in South Miami next to Sunset Place....Its the Whole Foods Market...Yummy! I can't wait to go, I Live near by....

DGM
December 26th, 2005, 11:49 PM
Yea, I've seen this. What is going on the upper floors? Condos? BTW, there is another building on west on Sunset that is nearing completion. It is near South Miami Hospital and is like 4 or 5 stories. The South Miami Hospital Area is looking really dense. You've got to love all the pedestrian bridges between the buildings. I'll be getting pics of the dadeland area up in a few days, maybe I'll get the South Miami stuff as well. BTW, I'm pretty sure Tuscano is topped off.

dave8721
December 27th, 2005, 02:59 PM
Yea, I've seen this. What is going on the upper floors? Condos? BTW, there is another building on west on Sunset that is nearing completion. It is near South Miami Hospital and is like 4 or 5 stories. The South Miami Hospital Area is looking really dense. You've got to love all the pedestrian bridges between the buildings. I'll be getting pics of the dadeland area up in a few days, maybe I'll get the South Miami stuff as well. BTW, I'm pretty sure Tuscano is topped off.

Offices will go on top. The building on Sunset that is nearing completion is also an office building. My fav is the office building just completed on Sunset and 62nd Ave. Nice building...medical offices for SM Hospital. The office bulding just completed one block west of 57th and on block south of Sunset looks pretty nice as well.

DGM
December 28th, 2005, 03:55 AM
Edit - My link doesnt work anymore.

dave8721
February 17th, 2006, 06:00 PM
Check out the first page of this 31 page document from the Lima project. It shows a rendering of the skyline of all these proposals get built. They are missing a couple (Paramount Park and EWT along with all the recent proposals around the PAC) but it still looks amazing. Look at the riverfront project :eek2: it took me a few seconds to figure out what that collection of tall buildings up the river there was.

http://egov.ci.miami.fl.us/Legistarweb/Attachments/21029.PDF

DGM
February 26th, 2006, 09:37 PM
These photos were posted by Southernyank at UP. The first was taken in 1999 and the second was taken in 2006. These photos will shock anyone that thinks the boom is just starting.

http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1635
http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1636

The Mad Hatter!!
February 26th, 2006, 10:13 PM
Holy shizit,thats incredible, our skyline was quite shitty just 7years back,although we still have that unmistakable hole inbetween boa and wachovia(come on down met3)

Miami as in Perfect
February 26th, 2006, 10:25 PM
exactly my thought. with the addition of Flatiron, Citicentre, 1101, things in the Brickell area, the density of Brickell will be crassy! But the "BEST" view of Miami, from Key Biscayne, won't really change in the way of the CBD, even in 2012. Though amazing towers are going in there, besides the Met crew, and Dupont, not many will be visable.
Any further word on Lynx? Dead, alive, kinda, sorta?!?

Sunstorm
February 27th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Holy skyscraper boom, Batman!!

danthediscoman
February 27th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Thats a an amazing shot. I enjoy before and after shots like that. How many buildings have risen in the past 7 years. By the looks of that picture I would say at least 20-30 high rises right?

Dale
February 27th, 2006, 08:51 PM
And can you imagine the skyline in another seven years ?

The Mad Hatter!!
February 28th, 2006, 08:34 PM
Anyone know when the city will get off there lazy butts and release another development report,we haven't had one since mid-december..

dave8721
March 29th, 2006, 09:06 PM
Anyone know when the city will get off there lazy butts and release another development report,we haven't had one since mid-december..

Its been over 3 months now.

BornInTheGrove
March 29th, 2006, 10:10 PM
I think they'll all busy with that fire fee scandle thing

MiamiSunCity
April 3rd, 2006, 02:02 AM
From I_95 and key biscayne
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9987/miamitoday16qs.jpg http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9962/miamitoday25gw.jpg http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5415/miamitoday33xn.jpg http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9996/miamitoday45fq.jpg http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7466/miamitoday52ze.jpg http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/5295/miamitoday69mb.jpg http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7021/miamitoday71nk.jpg http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2442/miamitoday88ea.jpg http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1407/miamitoday97lw.jpg http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6021/miamitoday102hn.jpg http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3760/miamitoday115lf.jpg

Miami as in Perfect
April 3rd, 2006, 05:03 AM
great pictures!

Pablo63090
April 3rd, 2006, 05:17 AM
Awesome shots. I hope the damage from Hurricane Wilma gets fixed soon.

BHK27
April 4th, 2006, 02:41 AM
Yeah, really nice pixs. I wonder how long will it take for all those buildings to replace their windows, I mean we're 3 months away until the season really heats up.

pedang
April 4th, 2006, 02:50 PM
fantastic project ;) love miami always..

mileageman
April 5th, 2006, 04:15 AM
Looks like the file has been updated to April 2006

dave8721
April 5th, 2006, 09:28 PM
About time, some new things I noticed (aside from the fact that there's lots of office buildings for once):

-Details on 600 Brickell: Still 2 towers, 68 stories, 903 feet tall with 132 condos, 360 hotel rooms and 952000 sqft of office space and 17000 sqft of retail 1900 parking spaces. They list the cost at $722 million.

-Bachelor Enterprises Tower - 24 story, 373 foot tall, 124,000 sqft office building in West Brickell at 621 SW 3rd Ave (just to the west of the big self storage building behind Neovertika and Latitude)
-Rivergate (Relections 2): A 30-story 345 ft tall residential with 138 condos to go behind (South of) Relections.
-Civica: 24-story, 290 foot tall, 466000 sqft office building to go on the site of the Days Inn next to the new UM biomedical building
-194ft tall, 110,000 sqft office building at 3301 Biscayne Blvd by Cardinal Development
-One Plaza: a 22-story, 230 foot tall residential building to go at 1800 SW 1st Ave (NW of the metrorail tracks right before they go under I-95). Will have 188 condos and 31,524 sqft of office space.
-3400 Towers: 2232 SW 34th Ave (Coral Way & 34th Ave), 13 story, 171 foot tall office building.
-3921 W Flagler St: 14 story, 155 foot mixed-use with 142 condos, 18000 sqft of office and 5000 sqft of retail near the Airport.
-Nordica on 8th: 16-story 193 foot tall mixed use building in Little Havana (8th St & 11th Ave) featuring 439 condos, 24600 sqft of office and 28715 sqft of retail.

Updates:
-the 41-story, 463 foot tall Electra on the Bay is now called Aja on the Bay
-Brickell Station (500 Brickell phase 2) was downsized from 599 feet to 559 feet.
-Logik Office Tower was upped from 26 stories 312 ft to 30 stories, 368 ft and is now to have 105,106 sqft of office space.

Toucano
April 6th, 2006, 02:36 AM
Yay! For office buildings!

dave8721
April 6th, 2006, 02:43 PM
No big ones though, and all these small ones are adding up taking away the demand that would have led to some big office towers.

Displaced Miami Man
April 6th, 2006, 07:24 PM
this may be true but its nice to get some density out of it! cant always reach for the sky!

MIAballinboi
September 4th, 2006, 08:17 PM
had to bump this great thread back up,

i think theyre updating the reports again, still looks pretty optimistic with the 700-1000 footers.. :cheers:

http://www.miamigov.com/Planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp

arch photographer
October 9th, 2006, 05:42 AM
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7138/img1664zo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Exploratus
October 22nd, 2006, 06:10 PM
ATTENTION.

Sorry to post this here, but I think this is of interest to all people who want to see downtown Miami blossom.

There is a petition to get the Marlins Baseball Stadium in downtown Miami. Go put you name on the petition.

www.marlinspark.com

rider_of_rohan
October 22nd, 2006, 07:20 PM
Ok man, you dont need to post that in every thread thanks.

Rx727sfl2002
October 22nd, 2006, 08:59 PM
SOMEONE NEEDS TO STOP SPAMMING

ChuckScraperMiami#1
November 16th, 2006, 02:13 AM
About time, some new things I noticed (aside from the fact that there's lots of office buildings for once):

-Details on 600 Brickell: Still 2 towers, 68 stories, 903 feet tall with 132 condos, 360 hotel rooms and 952000 sqft of office space and 17000 sqft of retail 1900 parking spaces. They list the cost at $722 million.

-Bachelor Enterprises Tower - 24 story, 373 foot tall, 124,000 sqft office building in West Brickell at 621 SW 3rd Ave (just to the west of the big self storage building behind Neovertika and Latitude)
-Rivergate (Relections 2): A 30-story 345 ft tall residential with 138 condos to go behind (South of) Relections.
-Civica: 24-story, 290 foot tall, 466000 sqft office building to go on the site of the Days Inn next to the new UM biomedical building
-194ft tall, 110,000 sqft office building at 3301 Biscayne Blvd by Cardinal Development
-One Plaza: a 22-story, 230 foot tall residential building to go at 1800 SW 1st Ave (NW of the metrorail tracks right before they go under I-95). Will have 188 condos and 31,524 sqft of office space.
-3400 Towers: 2232 SW 34th Ave (Coral Way & 34th Ave), 13 story, 171 foot tall office building.
-3921 W Flagler St: 14 story, 155 foot mixed-use with 142 condos, 18000 sqft of office and 5000 sqft of retail near the Airport.
-Nordica on 8th: 16-story 193 foot tall mixed use building in Little Havana (8th St & 11th Ave) featuring 439 condos, 24600 sqft of office and 28715 sqft of retail.

Updates:
-the 41-story, 463 foot tall Electra on the Bay is now called Aja on the Bay
-Brickell Station (500 Brickell phase 2) was downsized from 599 feet to 559 feet.
-Logik Office Tower was upped from 26 stories 312 ft to 30 stories, 368 ft and is now to have 105,106 sqft of office space.

DAVE:) , my friend, thanks for this Important UPDATE:cheers: !!!

NOW EVERYONE Please go to this website:banana:

very important info I just picked up on the web search:ohno:

http://www.globest.com/news/783_783/miami/150673-1.html

You'll thank me later !!!:cheers:

DGM
November 16th, 2006, 03:19 AM
I found a bunch of recently taken aerials of Miami on SSP, all taken by Trantor. Enjoy!
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/latinohunk/Four/IMG_2928.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/latinohunk/Four/IMG_2929.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/latinohunk/Four/IMG_2932.jpg

Some other cool images found on SSP, taken by MiamiJR:
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/jirodrig/Iranian%20Miami%2011112006/IranianMiami11112006092.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/jirodrig/Iranian%20Miami%2011112006/IranianMiami11112006104.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/jirodrig/Iranian%20Miami%2011112006/IranianMiami11112006109.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/jirodrig/Iranian%20Miami%2011112006/IranianMiami11112006079.jpg

arch photographer
November 16th, 2006, 04:12 AM
Great SHOTS, but Edgewater is screaming for a very tall, or just some attention. What is going on with Marquis, everything else marches on forward but not Marquis. Maybe I just can't see it.

great184
November 16th, 2006, 06:52 AM
Great SHOTS, but Edgewater is screaming for a very tall, or just some attention. What is going on with Marquis, everything else marches on forward but not Marquis. Maybe I just can't see it.

its behind ten museum park and construction has already commenced.

umiami305
November 16th, 2006, 06:54 AM
Great SHOTS, but Edgewater is screaming for a very tall, or just some attention. What is going on with Marquis, everything else marches on forward but not Marquis. Maybe I just can't see it.
Marquis is grooving to that slow jam. I wish they would quit baking cakes and get on with it.

newyorkrunaway1
November 16th, 2006, 06:56 AM
i love miami urbanism. it is like no other!!! amazing city!!!

arch photographer
November 16th, 2006, 01:55 PM
Thank you great 184. I know where Marquis is, but they've been pouring the second floor for three months. A that pace they should be topping it off in about... 16 years, if all goes well.

quefueuno
November 16th, 2006, 08:15 PM
the reason there going so slow is because the foundation is the most important part it takes buildings 6 months just to pour the foundation. We should see them pick up speed once they get to around 5 floors.

Rx727sfl2002
November 16th, 2006, 10:37 PM
try 8 floors thats about the time it takes for foundation to cure where it will hold enough of the buildings weight and not cause structural problems sometimes its best they clear the parking section and start on one normal floor then the speed becomes a floor a week easily...

BornInTheGrove
November 17th, 2006, 01:01 AM
Marquis is under construction, and that's the important thing. I remember 900 taking forever with their foundation.

arch photographer
January 8th, 2007, 01:26 AM
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6294/notoverbuiltly6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I don't want to hear no bleeding heart cry baby nimby's talking about how Miami is overbuilt. Does this look overbuilt to you? I think it is screaming for CitySquare and Marquis, Paramount Park, Freedom Square, One Herald Plaza, 1490 Biscayne, as well as infill projects like Logik.

spellbound
January 8th, 2007, 12:55 PM
I don't want to hear no bleeding heart cry baby nimby's talking about how Miami is overbuilt. Does this look overbuilt to you? I think it is screaming for CitySquare and Marquis, Paramount Park, Freedom Square, One Herald Plaza, 1490 Biscayne, as well as infill projects like Logik.

Agreed...and definitely the best photo I've seen of the obscure Flagler Memorial sitting in Biscayne Bay.

SOMEBODY is the "maintenance guy" for stuff like that...right?

Bobdreamz
January 8th, 2007, 03:33 PM
arch that pic is deceptive because I couldn't tell what that thing was to the right of 10 Museum until spellbound pointed it out. The flagler memorial looks just as tall as 10 Museum!...great pic by the way!

Roark
January 9th, 2007, 07:52 AM
Arch...looks like you were at Flamingo and didn't stop to say hi!!!

Excellent pics!