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MIAballinboi
February 6th, 2005, 07:30 AM
sorry guys i had to start this new topic, woow i HIT THE JACKPOT LOOK!

it says they will update the excel file every month this is the january o5 edition.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
according to this link
http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp

it has an excel file at the bottom which gives a giant list of all these projects and also gives height, and some of em seem off and different for ex heres what it lists some as:


900 biscayne as 740 feet tall!! great

it lists jade at 528 feet tall! great

dupont plaza tower has 609 feet

everglades 538 ft
infinity 604 ft
island gardens 535
villa magna 574


WOOOW LOOK WHAT I FOUND! INfinity 2 at 736 feet and 65 stories tall!!!

Opus 2 at 650 and 67 stories!

SHERATON BISCAYNE 650 feet!

700 biscayne (what the hell is dat) and this is 70 stories 754 feet!

LYNX DOWNTOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............

76 STORIES TALL !!!! 746 FEET, I TOLD U GUYS I TOLD U :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


WHat the hell is this

Platinum on the bay 51 stories 732 feet tall! yes!

http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/images/AreaComposite.jpg

MIAballinboi
February 6th, 2005, 07:31 AM
woow guys this is the best news so far straight from the city of miami, party time, dayumm so many 500 footers at least 30 so many 600 foters like 10 and so many 700 footers like at least 5 !!

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :) :) :) !!!!!!

Dale
February 6th, 2005, 07:34 AM
What the ... :eek2:

ChuckScraperMiami#1
February 6th, 2005, 08:02 AM
MIAballinboi :) , GREAT :) !!!, A Little Correction on the INFINITY at BRICKELL TOWER :) , its 632 FEET at 56 FLOORS, THE TALLEST ALL CONDO TOWER in BRICKELL. The FOUR SEASONS TOWER :) is the TALLEST HOTEL-CONDO-OFFICE TOWER in BRICKELL at 789 FEET at 69 FLOORS . :cheers:

Dale
February 6th, 2005, 04:28 PM
I was going to say that it looked like Infinity had shrunk.

MIAballinboi
February 6th, 2005, 04:47 PM
yup great news, some of the heights might sound weird just check the review date, like for jade it says over 500 feet, but the date is a couple years back, so it still should be that height though its over 500 !

also some of them are newer like lynx was just last month



MEN, next month february 2005 edition we will find out the height of met 3!!

74 stories, 8** feet tall! :cheers:

this list is perfect, it still has met project listed as when they wanted the 500 foot towers, but now in feb they should have the new met miami wit the 800 footer!


can u believe lynx is 76 stories, but how can it only be 746, why they squishing the floors in like 9 foot ceilings?

funny how the 76 story lynx will have the most floors but be like only the 5th tallest lol

BHK25
February 6th, 2005, 05:06 PM
WOW THANKS MIABALLINBOI GREAT FIND! THERE ARE AT LEAST 3 PROJECTS OVER 700 FT THAT I'VE NEVER HEARD OF!

:dance:

:cheers: :cheers: :eek2: :eek2:

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!
February 6th, 2005, 06:24 PM
whoawhoawhoawhoawhoawhoawhoa

Pablo63090
February 6th, 2005, 06:36 PM
Amazing find! I always thought that Jade was taller than the Santa Maria and 900 Biscayne just gets bigger.

south florida dave
February 6th, 2005, 06:37 PM
wow, awesome find, ballinboi! i've been looking for something like this for years & you found it. thank you, thank you. thank you!

i can't believe the amount of buildings that are listed on this. it's incredible!

ok, here's the rundown of buildings to come (grouped by height) according on this list. this does not include completed buildings.

700 footers-5
700 Biscayne 754
Lynx 746
900 biscayne 740
Infinity2 736
Platinum on the Bay 732

600 footers-10
The Marquis 679
330 Biscayne 659
One Brickell Bay 650
Opus2 650 67 stories
River Front West 630
Opus 620
Marinablue 615
Dupont Towers 609
Infinity 604
River Front East 602

500 footers-17
Plaza on Brickell 585
Premiere Towers 579
Villa Magna 574
Paramount @ Edgewater Square 562
Quantum 554
Met2 550
Ice2 545
50 biscayne 544
Onyx2 536
Everglades on the Bay 538
Quantum2 536
Island Gardens 535
Opera Tower 530
Ten Museum Park 528
Plaza on Brickell 524
Soleil 514
Premiere Towers 513

400 footers-19
Avenue 495
One Miami 480
1390 Brickell 478
Latitude on the River 476
One Miami 459
Portico 455
Met1 440
Park Place at Brickell 440
Loft2 433
Blue 426
500 Brickell 423
500 Brickell (tower 2) 423
1800 club 423
Brickell on the River 423
The Pointe at Brickell 422
Axis 418
Park Lane Tower 411
Axis2 406
River House Lofts 405

wow, that's a lot of towers & a lot of height! & the thing about this list is it doesn't include Met 3 (possible 800 footer) or many of the 2nd towers in 2 tower projects, so this list is sure to get bigger.

now to put this in perspective, according to emporis, chicago currently has 7 700 footers completed, approved or proposed & 27 600 footers completed, u/c, proposed or approved. if all the miami projects get built (& it seems likely that the vast majority will) than that's pretty freakin good! ok, so we don't have the 800, 900 & 1,000 foot towers that chicago has, but it's a start.

EDIT-btw, if there's any errors in here, please correct me.

EDIT-sorry ballinboi! you're credited now.

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!
February 6th, 2005, 06:40 PM
it wasn't chuck it was miaballinboi

The Mad Hatter!!
February 6th, 2005, 07:08 PM
ballinboi i'm kissing the screen right now ,i love u man great find we finnally know the heights now we don't have to try and guesstimate or wait until emporis gets there lazy asses off the couch .

but i don't get how is it the perez keeps on calling the sheraton project the largest project in miami when its only 650 ft,its only 3 towers,and it won't have more units then biscayne landing,it won't have more hotel rooms then lynx so what the hell is he cooking up

The Mad Hatter!!
February 6th, 2005, 07:20 PM
new top ten
??????-------1000ft(just /playing
met3--------840ft(appox)
four seasons-789ft
wachovia----764ft
700biscayne-754ft
lynx---------746ft
platinum on the bay732ft
the marquis-----679
330 biscayne-659ft(<-------what projects is this,remember i told you guys about this but yet i haven't seen a design yet
one brickell bay-650ft
riverfront west-630ft

jzquince69
February 6th, 2005, 07:52 PM
Jade and 528' vs 500'. Guys, if you compare Jade to Espirito Santo, it looks alot taller than a measly 15' taller. I think it might be actually be that 528' height instead.

jzquince69
February 6th, 2005, 08:00 PM
NYC has 3 times the skyscrapers Chicago has. Chicago has 2 to 3 times the skyscrapers the next biggest city has (in US). Regarding number of skyscrapers (over 12 stories), Miami metro has around 1,100 while Chicago has about 1,400. Toronto has over 1,400.

Miami metro is no slouch. And when these buildings get built, Miami will move further up the charts in the taller categories as well. It's just a matter of time. Pretty soon, the waterfront will resemble a version of Lake Shore Drive north of the Hancock and even have taller skyscrapers than that district of Chicago.

Any pix of Lynx? Or is there a posting in another thread here?

jzquince69
February 6th, 2005, 08:03 PM
Dave, you gotta put Quantum's 400+ foot tower 2 on that list as well. I think its technically considered a second tower in the stats category.

The Mad Hatter!!
February 6th, 2005, 08:06 PM
who cares about jade,but i do see something sad about all of this espirito santo is going to be lost in the shuffle,i think they should build an espirto santo II

jzquince69
February 6th, 2005, 08:06 PM
I love Miami. In a way, its Florida's version of Chicago. But at the same time, its it's own animal, with its own style and culture and architecture and flair. Viva Miami!!!

The Mad Hatter!!
February 6th, 2005, 08:12 PM
well about the architecture all i see is a bunch of white building with green window which is so boring.and thats why i'm hoping riverfront don't get built that would be 6 more green and white towers.lets add more flair ,glass and tropical colors other than white and geen.

Mike19
February 6th, 2005, 10:37 PM
MIAballinboy, how do you know we get the height of met 3 next month?

JEmanuel56
February 6th, 2005, 11:27 PM
thanx miami ballin that is a very helpful/useful link

streetscapeer
February 7th, 2005, 02:24 AM
::GASP:: I have been FLOORRED!!!!

VansTripp
February 7th, 2005, 05:39 AM
well about the architecture all i see is a bunch of white building with green window which is so boring.and thats why i'm hoping riverfront don't get built that would be 6 more green and white towers.lets add more flair ,glass and tropical colors other than white and geen.

Well. Good for you.

I loves Miami but not believe to him. :weird:

ChuckScraperMiami#1
February 7th, 2005, 06:56 AM
Great MIAballinboi :) , We Know that JADE CONDO TOWER :) at Brickell BAY is 510 FEET at 48 Floors, How I know, Its the SAME HEIGHT as MY Miami-Dade Adminstration Building :) at ONLY 30 FLOORS in the Government CENTER. :cheers: BUT,
PLEASE MIAballinboi :) , Help me OUT HERE , Give me A CLUE :) , or a WEBSITE or Anything ABOUT this LYNX PROJECT ??? :cheers: , I got NOTHING ON THIS 76 FLOOR TOWER, Where is it, and DID the CITY OF MIAMI :) Approve it, and Where is its Location. I drive Around Downtown MIAMI :) Everyday , But I see Nothing About LYNX :sleepy: , Help me out here, I'm Confused, LOL., But I'm SLOW , TOO, remember I'm 50 , now, lol. :cheers:

Rx727sfl2002
February 7th, 2005, 07:35 AM
chuck the link is the following one you have to scroll down and download the excell file and view the different projects on there they even have the 1401 brickell project bieing built on the parking lot at 36 floors

http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp

jzquince69
February 7th, 2005, 03:32 PM
well, uptown, when you sift thru the crap bldgs, you're left with Wachovia, BOA, Espirito, Four Seasons, Continuum, Icon, Santa Maria, Acqualina, Las Olas Riverhouse, Westin Diplomat, Trump Palace/Royale, Fountainbleu II, Jade, Bristol, etc. Every city has its crap bldgs. But Miami's also got its "style" bldgs like Chicago and NYC. The problem is that in Florida, builders just love white concrete with glass sliding doors and rail balconies. Jade is different b/c its balconies are glass. It breaks it up. Plus its got a nice design. In two years, Miami metro's list of landmark bldgs will double or triple.

dave8721
February 7th, 2005, 04:32 PM
wow, awesome find, ballinboi! i've been looking for something like this for years & you found it. thank you, thank you. thank you!

i can't believe the amount of buildings that are listed on this. it's incredible!

ok, here's the rundown of buildings to come (grouped by height) according on this list. this does not include completed buildings.

700 footers-5
700 Biscayne 754
Lynx 746
900 biscayne 740
Infinity2 736
Platinum on the Bay 732

600 footers-10
The Marquis 679
330 Biscayne 659
One Brickell Bay 650
Opus2 650 67 stories
River Front West 630
Opus 620
Marinablue 615
Dupont Towers 609
Infinity 604
River Front East 602

500 footers-17
Plaza on Brickell 585
Premiere Towers 579
Villa Magna 574
Paramount @ Edgewater Square 562
Quantum 554
Met2 550
Ice2 545
50 biscayne 544
Onyx2 536
Everglades on the Bay 538
Quantum2 536
Island Gardens 535
Opera Tower 530
Ten Museum Park 528
Plaza on Brickell 524
Soleil 514
Premiere Towers 513

400 footers-19
Avenue 495
One Miami 480
1390 Brickell 478
Latitude on the River 476
One Miami 459
Portico 455
Met1 440
Park Place at Brickell 440
Loft2 433
Blue 426
500 Brickell 423
500 Brickell (tower 2) 423
1800 club 423
Brickell on the River 423
The Pointe at Brickell 422
Axis 418
Park Lane Tower 411
Axis2 406
River House Lofts 405

wow, that's a lot of towers & a lot of height! & the thing about this list is it doesn't include Met 3 (possible 800 footer) or many of the 2nd towers in 2 tower projects, so this list is sure to get bigger.

now to put this in perspective, according to emporis, chicago currently has 7 700 footers completed, approved or proposed & 27 600 footers completed, u/c, proposed or approved. if all the miami projects get built (& it seems likely that the vast majority will) than that's pretty freakin good! ok, so we don't have the 800, 900 & 1,000 foot towers that chicago has, but it's a start.

EDIT-btw, if there's any errors in here, please correct me.

EDIT-sorry ballinboi! you're credited now.

Remember Riverfont West is 4 towers and Riverfront East is 3 towers, they only have the tallest ones listed.

The Mad Hatter!!
February 7th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Great MIAballinboi :) , We Know that JADE CONDO TOWER :) at Brickell BAY is 510 FEET at 48 Floors, How I know, Its the SAME HEIGHT as MY Miami-Dade Adminstration Building :) at ONLY 30 FLOORS in the Government CENTER. :cheers: BUT,
PLEASE MIAballinboi :) , Help me OUT HERE , Give me A CLUE :) , or a WEBSITE or Anything ABOUT this LYNX PROJECT ??? :cheers: , I got NOTHING ON THIS 76 FLOOR TOWER, Where is it, and DID the CITY OF MIAMI :) Approve it, and Where is its Location. I drive Around Downtown MIAMI :) Everyday , But I see Nothing About LYNX :sleepy: , Help me out here, I'm Confused, LOL., But I'm SLOW , TOO, remember I'm 50 , now, lol. :cheers:


well i got this picture of the site its right behind boa,anyone wanna call the number.the only approval it has is from the historical perservation board,but im guessing it should be getting the musp in march
http://img208.exs.cx/img208/2181/aol56570ug.jpg

MIAballinboi
February 8th, 2005, 12:33 AM
:) :) :) men

thnx but i just saw it on the city of miami site, straight from the horses mouth lol :cheers:

rx is that 1401 brickell, the empty lot right on brickell and se 15th? cuz fortune was advertising a 1 story retail space, but now that signs gone lets hope it is a tower great!

if u guys notice they have the old heights of met miami when they had that office tower and the 4 500 foot towers, but in feb they should have the new design heights and met 3, 800 + definetly!

true i always thought jade was over 500, whered that 500 ft height come form, it looks more than 15 feet taller than esp, thats great jade now moved up in the ranks temporary until its swamped by those 700 footers,

great list dave !! :cheers:

everyone saw what i posted bout lynx, it WILL be an AMAZING design,

when i saw it i knew it was way taller than boa, but didnt wanna exaggerate until we got confirmation, darn i was kicking myself for not snapping that quick pic of it.

when i eyeballed it, there was so many floors, so i posted 60 to be modest lool, but 76 great, it will have the most floors in floors out of all the towers, and it will be #5 in height?!

u would think they should at least stretch it out a bit, comeon compete for the tallest, ! but its good enough

but look how fate had it, the next day i find this best source and list of all heights :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

dont worry we will see the lynx soon, the glass is amazing.

if someone passes by or if i go by again and try to get it.


that platinum on the bay is great 51 stories some tall ceilings for a 700 footer, it sounds residential, it might have a spire or decorative roof which is great :cheers:



everyone wait for the feb, we will be suprised whatever new came up or any design changes height changes,

met 3

lynx, they might have increased it or joined the race for tallest when they saw that met3 was going for it, u neva know! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

The Mad Hatter!!
February 8th, 2005, 01:10 AM
i wonder if platinum on the bay is going to be next to platinum1 in uptown-that would make the skyline look cool 2-700ft in brickell-5 700ft in cbd- and then one in uptown
http://img15.exs.cx/img15/5503/aol55683zp.jpg

Rx727sfl2002
February 8th, 2005, 01:17 AM
THE SITE FOR 1402 IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO EMERALD AND SHOULD BE LOCATED PERHAPS ON TOP OF THAT PARKING TOWER BEHIND THE PROPERTY

http://img15.exs.cx/img15/1048/14026ps.th.jpg (http://img15.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img15&image=14026ps.jpg)
http://img120.exs.cx/img120/4647/14080mp.th.jpg (http://img120.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img120&image=14080mp.jpg)

360 FT TALL 34 STORIES

Rx727sfl2002
February 8th, 2005, 01:25 AM
AS FOR PLATINUMM ON THE BAY I BELIEVE THEY HAD ABOUT 3 OR 4 PARCELS IN THAT SAME AREA WHERE THE FIRST TOWER WAS GOING UP.

http://img204.exs.cx/img204/3285/0013ng.th.jpg (http://img204.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img204&image=0013ng.jpg) http://img204.exs.cx/img204/8030/0023lk.th.jpg (http://img204.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img204&image=0023lk.jpg) http://img204.exs.cx/img204/438/0031up.th.jpg (http://img204.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img204&image=0031up.jpg) http://img204.exs.cx/img204/5851/0040gp.th.jpg (http://img204.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img204&image=0040gp.jpg)
http://img204.exs.cx/img204/4926/0058bg.th.jpg (http://img204.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img204&image=0058bg.jpg) http://img204.exs.cx/img204/3728/0068mo.th.jpg (http://img204.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img204&image=0068mo.jpg) http://img204.exs.cx/img204/8660/0074bk.th.jpg (http://img204.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img204&image=0074bk.jpg)

The Mad Hatter!!
February 8th, 2005, 01:28 AM
i think they own the apartment complex infront of the 1st platinum

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!
February 8th, 2005, 01:45 AM
'360FT"RX

does that include the parking garage or is that without the garage

jzquince69
February 8th, 2005, 04:31 PM
can one you computer experts post a pic of Lynx? I can't seem to access that file on the miami site. thanx. :)

MIAballinboi
February 9th, 2005, 04:08 AM
GUYS check it out right now!!!!!!!!!!!

its been updated february 2005 edition!!!!!!!! :cheers: :eek2: :eek2: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


no height on met3 yet,

but listen to this!!!

tower name: SMA permit: MUSP

its on the sw corner of sw 14 st and miami ave

mixed used, residential, retail and office (2 buildings)

its in the preliminary phase, just revied jan 2005

NOW LISTEN TO THIS!

64 STORIES, 800 FEET TALL!!!!!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

the race to the tallest has begun, even though met3 seems still taller, but heres #2 tallest !!!!!!

MIAballinboi
February 9th, 2005, 04:17 AM
DAVE

u gotta make a new list according to the new february edition,

and this time on the top of the list put up a 800 footer and for now put the tower "SMA" in that list with a height of 800 feet and 64 floors,

then we will see in the march edition, we might get a 900 footer lool, and hopefully finally get the height of met3, idk why its not in this report, they must have not talked to the city yet, but theyre advertising???

guys i feel so lucky woow,

i was pissed a couple days ago of not getting the lynx rendering, so because of that i discovered this amazing site with all this list! woow how things work out :cheers: :)

MIAballinboi
February 9th, 2005, 04:27 AM
i just skimmed down the list and counted the heights.

NOTE: this list includes the met miami old design of 4 towers with office component, as we know its been changed, but i copied it straight from the list even though its a little off,

800 footers: 1
700 footers: 6
600 footers: 10
500 footers: 16


also, this includes EVERYTHING thats in the report, even the 4 seasons tower and jade, anything in the report

this list is better organized and the projects have names and more info,!

cant wait til the march o5 editioin! lool

Rx727sfl2002
February 9th, 2005, 04:45 AM
SMA and cabi developers

are planning this 800 footer right across from infinity and park place

Dale
February 9th, 2005, 04:53 AM
Wow ! That's an 800 footer, Four Seasons at 789, Infinity II at 736 on basically one block !

MIAballinboi
February 9th, 2005, 05:03 AM
^how ironic, 64 floors like 4 seasons, and 800 feet, the height 4 seasons should have been,


and let me say i dont th ink this group just picked 800 feet, thats probably the maximum allowable there,

if i recall it was like 850 where the 4 seasons is, but dont 4get this is a couple blocks west of brickell, which probably made the height limit tighter

south florida dave
February 9th, 2005, 06:47 AM
wow, you gotta be kidding me. another 2, potentially very tall towers?! just when i thought there could be no more...SMACK! another huge one or even 2.

ok, so here's the updated list now with the sma tower(s) & somee additional additions/changes & such from february's list:

800 footers-2
SMA/Cabi Tower(s)
Met3?

700 footers-5
Paramount Park 754
Lynx 746
900 biscayne 740
Infinity2 736
Platinum on the Bay 732

600 footers-10
The Marquis 679
330 Biscayne 659
One Brickell Bay 650
Opus2 650 67 stories
River Front West 630
Opus 620
Marinablue 615
Dupont Towers 609
Infinity 604
River Front East 602

500 footers-17
Plaza on Brickell 585
Premiere Towers 579
Villa Magna 574
Paramount Bay 562
Quantum 554
Ice2 545
50 biscayne 544
Onyx2 536
Everglades on the Bay 538
Quantum2 536
Island Gardens 535
Opera Tower 530
Ten Museum Park 528
Plaza on Brickell 524
Soleil 514
Premiere Towers 513
Park Place2 511

400 footers-21
Avenue 495
Asia 483
One Miami 480
1390 Brickell 478
Latitude on the River 476
One Miami 459
Portico 455
Met1 440
Park Place1 440
Loft2 433
Blue 426
500 Brickell 423
500 Brickell (tower 2) 423
1800 club 423
Brickell on the River 423
The Pointe at Brickell 422
Axis 418
Park Lane Tower 411
Axis2 406
River House Lofts 405
Avenue2 400

:uh:

JR79
February 9th, 2005, 04:19 PM
This website (http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/LargeScaleDR(Feb2005).xls) is truly a dream come true for all of us skyscraper fanatics here in MIAMI! Hopefully they will all get built. In looking at some of the locations for some of these new projects, it seems like S Miami Ave is slowly turning into another Brickell, with towers starting to line up on both sides of the road. I hope I'll live to see the day when this march of skyscrapers continues west towards I-95, then it will look like our own little mini-Manhattan!

The Mad Hatter!!
February 9th, 2005, 10:58 PM
not to soundlike a party pooper but how the hell are we suppose to sell all these units in these towers.trust me i happy as helll were getting all these towers but each 700footer has atleast 500units and trust me condos aren't selling like they were a couple of months ago.are we headed for another situation with a bunch of empty towers?

Dale
February 9th, 2005, 11:29 PM
I would think that even as the party begins to poop a bit that the high-profile developments will do well, don't you think ?

MarkyMark
February 9th, 2005, 11:43 PM
My gut feeling is that once the condo market starts to soften and the area becomes saturated.......much of these new developments will be canceled or maybe scaled down.

BHK25
February 10th, 2005, 02:24 AM
Excellent news! Hopefully they all get build.!!

jzquince69
February 10th, 2005, 02:47 AM
I knew it. Just like I said not more than a couple of days ago. Met 3 and all the bru ha ha. Now the CABI bldg. It will keep happening too. I wouldn't worry about the rate of condo sales. If they dont get enough contracts, they won't build. But, the trend around the US is back to downtown. Dade's population is still growing-fast. the condo boom reflects this. all great cities have big time housing in their downtowns.

jzquince69
February 10th, 2005, 02:49 AM
Quantum 2 is 536'? Wow. Everglades, remember, is also 2 towers.

jzquince69
February 10th, 2005, 02:51 AM
I don't think any city in the US has got the development Miami has right now. It will eventually take over the No. 3 spot behind Chicago. in number of buildings over 400'.

MIAballinboi
February 10th, 2005, 02:53 AM
dont jinx it guys nooooo, lets hope for a still strong market, and hopefully if the ftaa comes and brings help,

and if theres no more land, only up hopefully!

The Mad Hatter!!
February 10th, 2005, 02:56 AM
dont jinx it guys nooooo, lets hope for a still strong market, and hopefully if the ftaa comes and brings help,

and if theres no more land, only up hopefully!


ain't happening
FTAA
herald.com
Chile backs Port-of-Spain

The horse race for the secretariat for the proposed Free Trade Area of the Americas heated up as Chile threw its backing to Port-of-Spain.

The endorsement from Chile, which is one of the big drivers behind the free trade movement in the hemisphere, follows the support for the capital of Trinidad & Tobago from Peru. Port-of-Spain is campaigning strongly for the secretariat for the FTAA, competing against Miami's bid as well as Panama City, Panama.

Trinidad & Tobago has been endorsed by 18 countries, including the 14 in the Caribbean community, as well as Venezuela, Costa Rica, Peru and Chile. Miami has secured the support of five: Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Dominican Republic and Uruguay.

A news release from the Caribbean Regional Negotiating Machinery quoted an unnamed source claiming ``it is no longer a question of if Port-of-Spain will be the seat of the FTAA, but rather when.''

FTAA negotiations have been stalled for a year and missed a Jan. 1 deadline for completing the talks, but U.S. and Brazilian trade officials have recently met to discuss resuming them.

rider_of_rohan
February 11th, 2005, 12:47 AM
So what projects are actually started? And what projects are actually going vertical?

Dale
February 11th, 2005, 12:54 AM
900 Biscayne in the 700 foot.

Marina Blue in the 600 foot.

Several in the 500 foot.

Most in the 400 foot.

ChuckScraperMiami#1
February 11th, 2005, 04:29 AM
So what projects are actually started? And what projects are actually going vertical?
RIDER of ROHAN :) , Good Question, Easy Answer :) , SO MANY Projects have Started, Here's the VERTICAL Ones,
:) #1 TEN MUSEUM PARK Condo Tower With Two Tower Construction Cranes,
:) #2 NEO VERTIKA Condo Tower With Two Tower Construction Cranes,
:) #3 THE SAIL at Brickell Condo Tower With One Tower Construction Crane,
:) #4 THE EMERALD at Brickell Condo Tower With One Tower Construction Crane,
:) #5 THE SOLARIS Condo Tower With One Tower Construction Crane,
:) #6 THE LOFTS DOWNTOWN Condo Tower With One Tower Construction Crane,
:) #7 THE 1800 CLUB Condo Tower With TWO Ready to Go up BLUE Construction Cranes,
:) #8 THE PLATINUM Condo Tower With ONE Tower Construction Crane,
:) #9 AND #10 ONE MIAMI CONDO Towers With TWO Towers With FOUR Tower Construction Cranes,
:) #11 THE CARBONELL On Brickell Key Condo Tower With Two Tower Construction Cranes,
:) #12 BRICKELL On The RIVER ONE Condo Tower With Two Tower Construction Cranes,
:) #13 THE BLUE CONDO Tower With Two Tower Construction Cranes, And
:) #14 The PARK PLACE ONE Condo Tower With Two Tower Construction Cranes.
:cheers:
THE LIST Will GO ON :) in about two Months With the QUANTUM TOWERS :) Condo Project Almost Completed with its HUGE Foundation, and SO is the LADITUDE CONDO :) Tower Well Underway with its Foundation. AND Don't Forget THE 60- STORY OPERA TOWER :) Condo Project WELL Underway on its Foundation and ITS HUGE !!! :cheers:
OPPS, Forgot FIVE MORE, lol, THE ONYX ONE :) Condo Tower Just Got the Foundation Completed, And the ICE ONE :) is ALSO Completed on its FOUNDATION, AND MET ONE :) Has Finally Started on its HUGE Foundation in the OLD Dupont Plaza Area !!! :) , THE TWO MIDTOWN :) Condo TOWER Has Started This Month on its Foundation, AND Finally the MARINA BLUE :) CONDO Tower on Biscayne BLVD Has Well Underway ITS HUGE One City BLOCK Foundation for its 60-STORY Tower, WOW, GO CRANES !!! :cheers:

rider_of_rohan
February 11th, 2005, 05:05 AM
Thanks Chuck, your the man :)

ChuckScraperMiami#1
February 11th, 2005, 05:27 AM
Anytime RIDER of ROHAN :) , You have to Come Back to MIAMI :) Soon and Check OUT our CRANE CITY Under Construction, :cheers:
I SAY THE MOST CONDENSED CONSTRUCTION Will be MARCH, 2006 !!! :) , THE MOST Tower Construction Cranes Should be 54 BY THEN, ALL Just in THE CITY OF MIAMI :) , Downtown-Brickell-Uptown :) , ALL Under Construction With More Cranes than Buildings, LOL. GO CRANES !!! :cheers:

jzquince69
February 11th, 2005, 04:28 PM
incredible.

ChuckScraperMiami#1
February 12th, 2005, 01:47 AM
Everyone :) , As I said Before, Take a GOOD LOOK at The Brickell on the RIVER 1 :) Condo Tower Under Construction, ITS STILL Getting HIGHER with that 35 FOOT TOP Spire, I believe someone said it was ONLY 423 FEET, NO WAY, ITS HIGHER !!! :cheers:
Now ITS the Same Height As THE 701 BRICKELL Office Tower Which is at 450 FEET. It Looks Like its STILL going higher, They, The Construction Trailer ON SITE of the Brickell on the River, Said Brickell on the River 2 WILL Break Ground Soon at the End of MARCH :) , 2005, We'll have to see, That one is at 46 Stories and Also will have a 35 Foot Spire on TOP :) , WOW, I LOVE THIS CITY !!! :cheers:

rider_of_rohan
February 12th, 2005, 03:24 AM
Anytime RIDER of ROHAN , You have to Come Back to MIAMI Soon and Check OUT our CRANE CITY Under Construction,

Chuck I may take you up on that. I kinda want to show my kids where I am from and the places that were really cool to me as a kid. Those places were Crandon Park (used to love when the zoo was there, and then to the beach there) the seaquarium, rickenbacker causeway (great views from there) really like the miami science museum (jack horkheimer still there?) and the area around the science museum. Also was fond of Bayfront Park. Everything is south considering I was a Little River kid. Chuck Im sure I will come back to visit Florida again, take the kids to Disney World, Cape Canaveral and down to Miami, maybe stay on Key Biscayne will be fun. Oh hey, I remember someone asking about Fire and Ice nightclub, I do remember that place seemed it was always open, it was next to a place called Opus in the Design district, they had a bouncer that was like 7 foot something. Hey guys what happened to Omni?

Lee
February 12th, 2005, 03:34 AM
does anyone have pics of the 700 footers?

Dale
February 12th, 2005, 03:53 AM
I'm confused about 900 Biscayne. The list says it's 740 ft., but I distinctly remember the Herald article which said that it was being built in an area with a 712 ft. limit.

Did it get a waver from the FAA ?

Bobdreamz
February 12th, 2005, 05:32 AM
Anytime RIDER of ROHAN , You have to Come Back to MIAMI Soon and Check OUT our CRANE CITY Under Construction,

Chuck I may take you up on that. I kinda want to show my kids where I am from and the places that were really cool to me as a kid. Those places were Crandon Park (used to love when the zoo was there, and then to the beach there) the seaquarium, rickenbacker causeway (great views from there) really like the miami science museum (jack horkheimer still there?) and the area around the science museum. Also was fond of Bayfront Park. Everything is south considering I was a Little River kid. Chuck Im sure I will come back to visit Florida again, take the kids to Disney World, Cape Canaveral and down to Miami, maybe stay on Key Biscayne will be fun. Oh hey, I remember someone asking about Fire and Ice nightclub, I do remember that place seemed it was always open, it was next to a place called Opus in the Design district, they had a bouncer that was like 7 foot something. Hey guys what happened to Omni?

Rider it sounds like you haven't been back to Miami in a long time!
Yes Jack Horkheimer is still there as far as I know and they are trying to move the museum & planeterium to Bicentennial Park along with the Miami Art Museum. The Omni now houses an arts college (the name escapes now) where Jordan Marsh used to be and another school is supposed to be moving in as well. When was the last time you were here?

streetscapeer
February 12th, 2005, 05:36 AM
^^the Arts Institute of Miami, I think

Dale
February 12th, 2005, 05:45 AM
I've always liked Jack Horkheimer. What's the timeline on Museum Park ? 2008-9 ?

rider_of_rohan
February 12th, 2005, 06:15 AM
Bob I havent been there since 1986

just some gringa
February 12th, 2005, 06:28 AM
1986? You're in for a big surprise!

rider_of_rohan
February 12th, 2005, 07:11 AM
Oh well I have seen all the pictures so I know what the skyline looks like. I have tried to keep up with things recently, but for years I paid no attention, this is true.

south florida dave
February 12th, 2005, 07:19 AM
Bob I havent been there since 1986

hey, miami vice was filming then & is filming now. who says miami has changed much in the last 20 years? :)

rider_of_rohan
February 12th, 2005, 07:22 AM
haha, I remember Miami vice. The people I worked for had a signed picture of philip micheal thomas lol. I lived behind a chinese place on biscayne and 80th that that was in a vice show, and a friend had a blip in one of the shows. My brother in I got kicked off the Omni parking ramp while taking pictures because we were a security risk, but miami vice blew a car up there the week before that lol.

south florida dave
February 12th, 2005, 07:25 AM
btw, welcome to the board gringa! i believe you're the first female member, at least for the miami boards anyway. anyone know if there are there any other female members on here?

south florida dave
February 12th, 2005, 07:40 AM
haha, I remember Miami vice. The people I worked for had a signed picture of philip micheal thomas lol. I lived behind a chinese place on biscayne and 80th that that was in a vice show, and a friend had a blip in one of the shows. My brother in I got kicked off the Omni parking ramp while taking pictures because we were a security risk, but miami vice blew a car up there the week before that lol.

i'm jealous, rider. i wish i had some cool miami vice stories to tell, but sadly, i don't. i was just a wee lad at the time living in cutler ridge, far away from the tough, neon lit streets that crockett & tubbs used to patrol.

i never realized how popular miami vice was til my aunt (from nebraska of all places) came down here to visit & dragged me & my family around the beach & different places to check out where miami vice was shot. she was a HUGE fan of the show. actually, i don't even think it was the show she was a fan of as much as as it was don johnson. what she or any woman saw in him i'll never understand, but she was definitely into him.

i still can't believe they're making a movie version of that show & got michael mann to direct it. why?!

rider_of_rohan
February 12th, 2005, 08:02 AM
lol Dave that show was very popular. Heck I have met people from other countries that watched it and liked it. I went to high school in South Dakota before moving back to Miami and it was popular there too. I would watch the show and see them heading across the bay to the beach and then be in the everglades and think man that is stupid.

brickell
February 12th, 2005, 09:52 AM
the Vice police headquarters was recently demolished to make way for Lattitude I think. Anybody else want to back me up on that?

BHK25
February 12th, 2005, 02:42 PM
Miami vice was very popular. I was like 12 years old when I used to watch it in Peru. They jost had a Miami Vice Marathon last saturday. I watched like 4 episodes lol. In one scene the show the Bank of America under constructrions LOL. Great show.

Rx727sfl2002
February 12th, 2005, 03:01 PM
THE MIAMI VICE BUILDING STILL STANDS AND IS PART OF THE DESIGN AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

The Mad Hatter!!
February 12th, 2005, 05:06 PM
rider like you said ice and fire are still open but now thers another more popular club there called grass,its in a tiki hut on grass in the design district,now that club is always packed.

Lee
February 12th, 2005, 05:24 PM
What does 900 Biscyane, Linx, and 700 Biscayne look like?

The Mad Hatter!!
February 12th, 2005, 05:28 PM
i wish i knew but but if you go to the thread named 900 biscayne and look at the last page a posted another image yesterday

south florida dave
February 12th, 2005, 07:50 PM
the Vice police headquarters was recently demolished to make way for Lattitude I think. Anybody else want to back me up on that?

THE MIAMI VICE BUILDING STILL STANDS AND IS PART OF THE DESIGN AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

you're both partly right. that building was recently demolished & is where the latitude sales office now sits. ultimately, they're gonna make a replica of that building in the same spot it originally sat & use it as a clubhouse/leasing office or something. i have no idea why they'd knock down the original just to put up a cheesy replica, but that's what they're doing. maybe i read there was some structural damage or something to the original building. i dunno.

http://live6.truelook.com/timages/live6/ecodb/ecodb_fourseasons_camera1/imgbuf/buf_644/1107412189817132.jpg

nimbyhater
February 12th, 2005, 09:59 PM
Miami vice was very popular. I was like 12 years old when I used to watch it in Peru. They jost had a Miami Vice Marathon last saturday. I watched like 4 episodes lol. In one scene the show the Bank of America under constructrions LOL. Great show.

now, being miamians, we of course have all seen the movie scarface... in that movie u can see the boa tower underconstruction (in the commercial that tony is watching when hes in the bathtub, right before "gooo! pelican") and u can also see goverment center underconstruction (when theyre on the bus at the beggining goin north on 95 and they pass downtown

ChuckScraperMiami#1
February 13th, 2005, 12:31 AM
I'm confused about 900 Biscayne. The list says it's 740 ft., but I distinctly remember the Herald article which said that it was being built in an area with a 712 ft. limit.

Did it get a waver from the FAA ?
TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH :) , DALE :) , it is 712 FEET at 65 FLOORS for the 900 BISCAYNE Condo TOWER :) , I don't know where Anyone got this 740 FEET :) , But Your Right its the FAA :bash: Agreement with the CITY of MIAMI :) , BUT, Then AGAIN I COULD BE WRONG !!!, lol. :cheers:

MIAballinboi
February 13th, 2005, 04:43 AM
probabaly dale the limit in the area is 712 feet, but got permission from the faa and its 740, comeon that extra feet is good :)

chuck this stat is straight from the city of miami report that lists every single project!!!

it also says jade is like 528 feet? this is correct right? it says the review date was like a couple years ago, but still if they were to change the heights or change anything they would have had to contact the city and tell em bout it?

so i say the best source now is the city of miami report,

and in next months issue they should have reviewed the met3, and have the real height :cheers:

The Mad Hatter!!
February 13th, 2005, 05:53 PM
theres is now way jade is taller than santa maria,jade is hardly taller than esp.

ChuckScraperMiami#1
February 15th, 2005, 05:55 AM
theres is now way jade is taller than santa maria,jade is hardly taller than esp.
MIAballinboi :) , Bro :) , I'm Afraid UPTOWN-MIDTOWN :) is CORRECT, THE FACTS Are :)
THE SANTA MARIA Condo Tower at 1643 BRICKELL AVE is 520 FEET at 51 FLOORS , Completed in 1997.
THE JADE at BRICKELL Condo Tower at 1295 BRICKELL BAY DRIVE is 500 FEET at 48 FLOORS, Completed in 2004.
AND the ESPIRITO SANTO PLAZA Office-Condo Tower at 1301 BRICKELL AVE is 487 FEET at 36 FLOORS, Completed in 2003. But :) , Don't Worry , Be Happy, They'll be MORE Coming, lol. :cheers:

dave8721
February 15th, 2005, 09:43 PM
Some things I noticed:
1. The Mercy Hospital Residential building is to be 33-stories and 389ft. Just wait till the nimbys hear of this one next door to Vizcaya.
2. There is something called "Miami River Rapids" just to the east of the Airport that will have 2252 condo units (!!!) in 5 buildings along the Miami River.
3. There's alot of stuff in the Little Havana/Orange Bowl area and Coral Way too that I haven't seen before (The Belmont...etc)
4. That building to go up behind Quantum is called "Portico" and will only be 42-stories and 455ft. They had claimed it would be taller than Quantum but I guess not.
5. I had been wondering what was going to happen with the big property on 32nd and Biscayne, it turns out it will be a tower called Park Lane Tower, 33-stories and 422ft.
6. Does any one know anything about the "Tuttle Street" development? It looks like a bunch of retail and office space at the entrance to the design district.

EAT my SHORTS!!!!!!
February 15th, 2005, 10:54 PM
2252 units see these are the type of developments that floood the market unless there released in phases.

and dave did you see the renderings,or was it just a project overview

The Mad Hatter!!
February 15th, 2005, 11:10 PM
hey dave where did you see this and arent theyre suppose to be 3 mercy hospital bldgs.

ooh when the nimbys hear this,i drove by coconut grove yesterday and everywhere i looked they had these signs that said keep home depot out of the grove,voice your opinion.imagine what they're going to do when they hear about this project.but since its from jorge perez it will be approved right away.

renner01
February 15th, 2005, 11:39 PM
Where did you get this info so i can do some more investigating?
tuttle is a mixed use project
Structural Info: 2 buildings 7 stories
Developer - DACRA

Lincoln Road at 1632 Pennsylvania Avenue
Miami Beach, FL 33139

nimbyhater
February 16th, 2005, 12:43 AM
great dave, that miami river rapids project sounds great...

The Mad Hatter!!
February 16th, 2005, 01:09 AM
isn't miami river rapids -hurricane cove it has around the same #i think

MIAballinboi
February 16th, 2005, 02:44 AM
woow cool news dave, watch those nimbys lool,

well chuck and uptown, it dont matter bout jade, idk why the city would leave the report as 528 or so feet tall, but it actually feels more than only 10 feet taller than esp, like from a distance u can actually see the top of jade popping up behind esp.

but w/e its still a 500 footer !

rider_of_rohan
February 16th, 2005, 06:00 AM
could miami river rapids possibly be the Jade and Ivy development? Thats 6 buildings that could easily be 2200 units.

dave8721
February 16th, 2005, 04:54 PM
I got it from that development summary spreadsheet from the City of Miami. It had River Rapids way up the river by the air port so it isn't Ivy or Hurricane Cove.

rider_of_rohan
February 16th, 2005, 05:01 PM
ooopps didnt mean jade, ,ment wind. thanks dave. thats a lot of units.

MIAballinboi
February 16th, 2005, 11:14 PM
lol dave got it straight from the source under our noses, good lookin dave,

also just imagine all these towers on the list probably have a rendering out, if the city reviewed them

so just imagine,
right now the designs of all these 700 footers and that sma tower 800 feet, are sitting in some office in the cbd or maybe in brickell (we know where the lynx design is loool)

cant wait til we get our hands on them lool,!

dave8721
February 17th, 2005, 04:27 PM
Speaking of Nimby's Michael Miller of Community Newspapers has come up with some great terms to describe the nimbys who always show up at commissioner meetings to oppose projects: CAVE-men and BANANA-heads. CAVE: Citizens Against Virtually Everything. BANANA: Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.

jzquince69
February 18th, 2005, 09:53 PM
I agree about the height of Jade. There's an arial view of Infinity taken from the West looking east with the Infinity tower in the foreground (www.markzilbert.com (I think)), with ESP and Jade behind it. Jade DOES look a lot more than 13 feet taller. I think someone else posted that pic on this forum somewhere. Regardless of what emporis says, I think Jade is much more than 500' (I haven't seen a direct comparison between jade and Santa Maria yet).

The Mad Hatter!!
February 18th, 2005, 10:12 PM
TRUST ME SANTA MARIA IS TALLER THAN JADE I WILL PROVE IT IM GOING TO TAKE SOME PICTURES.IF YOU RIDE ON THE METRORAIL OR METROMOVER YOU CAN'T SEE JADE OVER ESP.

The Mad Hatter!!
February 18th, 2005, 10:49 PM
i told you guys that santa maria was taller but no jade this and jde that,so heres the evidence.these pictures aren't mine i think there from nimby and bhk.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/dense.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/brickell-dt.jpg

MIAballinboi
February 19th, 2005, 04:58 AM
thats a good point uptown, but still in that first pic jade looks more than 10 ft taller than esp, but hey maybe santa maria is like really 560 feet tall thats why it looks so tall, lool j/p

dave8721
March 16th, 2005, 05:02 PM
Is the city going to update the spreadsheet or what? I've gone to the site and they still have the Feb version. Is it supposed to be updated every month or what?

south florida dave
March 16th, 2005, 07:10 PM
it's up now so they must have just updated it. haven't looked at it yet.

http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp

south florida dave
March 16th, 2005, 10:17 PM
here's the updated projects list from the march report.

project, height, # stories

800 footers-3
Met3-866
SMA-1 805 64
SMA-2 805 64

700 footers-5
Paramount Park 754 70
Lynx-1 746 76
Lynx-2 746 76
900 biscayne 740 63
Infinity2 736 65

600 footers-13
The Marquis 679 63
330 Biscayne 659 56
One Brickell Plaza 650 57
Opus-2 650 67 stories
600 Biscayne Bay 649 62
River Front West 630 55
Platinum on the Bay 625 51
Opus 620 57
Marinablue 615 57
Dupont Towers 609 60
Infinity 604 52
River Front East 602 54
Cardinal Symphony 600 60

500 footers-18
Plaza on Brickell 585 56
Premiere Tower-1 579 52
Premiere Tower-2 579 52
Villa Magna1 574 52
Villa Magna2 574 52
Paramount Bay 562 47
50 Biscayne 554 55
Met2 550 53
Ice2 545 54
Everglades on the Bay-1 538 49
Everglades on the Bay-2 538 49
Quantum 536 48
Onyx2 536 50 stories
Island Gardens 535 48
Opera Tower 530 56
Ten Museum Park 528 48
Soleil 514 43
Park Place2 511 32

400 footers-22
Avenue1 495 46
Asia 483 36
One Miami 480 45
1390 Brickell 478 47
Latitude on the River 476 42
Plaza on Brickell 475 46
One Miami 459 44
Portico 459 42
The Pointe at Brickell 442 42
Park Place 440 43
Met1 440 40
The Loft2 433 35
Blue 426 36
500 Brickell-1 423 42
500 Brickell-2 423 42
1800 club 423 40
Brickell on the River north 423 42
Park Lane Tower 422 33
Axis-1 418 37
Axis-2 406 36
River House Lofts 405 29
Avenue2 400 35

300 footers-9
Beacon at Brickell 396 36
Mercy Hospital mixed use 389 33
Miami Rivertown 380 35
NeoVertika 369 35
Commodore Bay II 360 34
Miami Parking Garage (mixed use) 357 33
Lyghte 357 32
Midtown Miami-4 350 31
Midtown Miami-3 309 29

this month's list adds 2 600 footers: 600 Biscayne Bay & Cardinal Symphony. there's a few height & # of stories changes, but nothing too significant so i didn't track it. the march list also leaves off 600 Brickell Ave. that the february list had listed @ 57 stories (height not listed).

feel free to correct whatever i may have missed or messd up.

streetscapeer
March 16th, 2005, 10:21 PM
cool...thanks ALOT dave....let the skyline transformation begin:)

the_1_and_only_cuban
March 16th, 2005, 11:04 PM
What about Brickell CitiCentre? It was highlighted in blue so it must have been new. It said it was 50 stories but it didn't give a height. It also said it was four buildings. Could this be the Perez development at the Sheraton?

The Mad Hatter!!
March 16th, 2005, 11:36 PM
what about opera tower II AND OPERA III,
DAMN THEY REDUCE PLATINUM ON THE BAY TO 625 FROM 732
600Brickell is still there,cardinal symphony 1650 biscayne blvd 60 stories 600ft?
666 biscayne is the freedom tower right?

south florida dave
March 17th, 2005, 12:05 AM
opera tower phase 3 is just the opera tower that's U/C now. phase 1 was bay parc plaza & phase 2 is a 7 story building that may be going up with the opera tower.

i forgot about platinum on the bay being dropped to 625ft. it sucks but it's not that surprising considering where they wanna build it. as it is, 625ft. is gonna be HUGE for that area.

666 biscayne should be the freedom tower site. don't know how i missed brickell citi centre.

damn i wish i could see renderings for some of these. must...have...patience...

BHK25
March 17th, 2005, 01:36 AM
What about that Brickell CitiCentre listed at 50 stories. Never heard of that project and for the name its probably all offices.

The Mad Hatter!!
March 17th, 2005, 05:11 AM
i present infinity 2,736ft,65 stories.500+units
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/AOL_5909.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/AOL_5910.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/AOL_5913.jpg

south florida dave
March 17th, 2005, 05:49 AM
hey, nice job uptown! infinity 2 looks pretty good. it's tall, got a nice corner spot & will really help fill out west brickell. not bad at all.

i take it this was a preliminary meeting? did they make a decision of any kind that you could tell?

logybogy
March 17th, 2005, 06:20 AM
What are SMA I and SMA 2? They are both over 800ft.

streetscapeer
March 17th, 2005, 07:01 AM
^We still have absolutely no idea, it seems:(

Archit_K
March 17th, 2005, 07:10 AM
Kudos to South Florida Dave. Well done.

streetscapeer
March 17th, 2005, 07:16 AM
^ditto:)

streetscapeer
March 17th, 2005, 07:17 AM
kudos to Uptown too...he always pulls through, and hooks us up with the pics:):)

dave8721
March 17th, 2005, 04:01 PM
What about Brickell CitiCentre? It was highlighted in blue so it must have been new. It said it was 50 stories but it didn't give a height. It also said it was four buildings. Could this be the Perez development at the Sheraton?

It lists the address as 700 South Miami Ave so I don't think its the sheraton but it does say it will have 2,315 condo units!!!!!

rider_of_rohan
March 17th, 2005, 04:23 PM
Uptown, great job man. What is the orange to the left of Infinity? Great pics, thanks a lot.

jzquince69
March 17th, 2005, 05:01 PM
The orange building looks like the first Infinity, right next to Infinity 2.

jzquince69
March 17th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Man, I can't believe the sheer number of projects they're proposing for Miami-- just Miami proper! Un-freakin-believable. That's quite a list, Dave. Too bad about Platinum. And too bad Miami Beach did those new height restrictions that ended the SoFi boom. At least there's Sunny Isles, Hollywood and Ft. lauderdale still alive with new tall projects.

The Mad Hatter!!
March 17th, 2005, 10:22 PM
hey, nice job uptown! infinity 2 looks pretty good. it's tall, got a nice corner spot & will really help fill out west brickell. not bad at all.

i take it this was a preliminary meeting? did they make a decision of any kind that you could tell?


well the planning board love the building,luis revuelta went on a 5minutes speech about how borges is really coming up with great projects,the neighbors love the building and said that they wanted to make sure that south miami avenue surpassed brickell ave,and bayshore drive and that they will do anything to ease construcion.

the only arguement was about how there was an elementary school behind and how the egress and ingress of cars could affect that school,and also about how two phases infinty1 and 2 were going to go up.

i really like the building more than infinity 1 ,i like the roof and infinity 1 and 2 will have a really nice entrance plaza.

the board approved this 7-0---

the_1_and_only_cuban
March 17th, 2005, 10:32 PM
Nice grab, Uptown. Infinity 2 looks great. It almost dwarfs Infinity which is no small project itself. Nice recessed balconies, too.

It lists the address as 700 South Miami Ave so I don't think its the sheraton but it does say it will have 2,315 condo units!!!!!

Your right.. So, who is behind this project? Can't wait, it'll be huge like you said with 2,315 condos. So that means the Perez-Sheraton project hasn't officially been proposed yet and is probably still in the design stage since it wasn't on the list..

The Mad Hatter!!
March 17th, 2005, 10:42 PM
^one and only the one sheraton project was listed look again,and the comment about the recessed balconies oninfinity #2,its hard to tell but i have a closeup here

looking at the closeup i just noticed that i like the color black and white
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/enyers/AOL_5911.jpg

The Mad Hatter!!
March 17th, 2005, 10:46 PM
It lists the address as 700 South Miami Ave so I don't think its the sheraton but it does say it will have 2,315 condo units!!!!!

this is the old brickell commons site,isn't that owned by millenium partners?

south florida dave
March 17th, 2005, 10:56 PM
yeah that should still be the millennium partners. guess they finally decided to develop that land they've been sitting on. the report says it's gonna be 4 buildings with 2,892,056 sq. ft. of total space. damn! that includes 171,290 sq. ft. of retail space. so it sounds like we're gonna see something really significant there. hopefully the design will be as ambitious as the scale of the project.

uptown, keep your eyes open for renderings on the county channel.

The Mad Hatter!!
March 17th, 2005, 11:23 PM
ok doing a little of guesstimating and research and foundout millenium and a company named brickell commons owns 8acres of land one block away from the river right by mbv,architecture is being done by arquitectonica.its about to file an aplication with the udrb board and its not expected to be higher than 600ft also this will have a highend shopping component like brickell commons.

the condos will be spread out about 550 per building and are expected to be medium priced at about 450k-1mill.

Dale
March 17th, 2005, 11:47 PM
^ It's almost as if everyone who has proposed anything is rushing to get an application in.

The Mad Hatter!!
March 17th, 2005, 11:57 PM
^interest rates are expected to jump by next year.

the thing i don't get about the citicentre project is that if they own 8 acres why are they trying to cram 2300 condos into four buildings of 50 stories unlike riverfront which is doing it in 6buildings in 6acres.

i really don't think all four buildings will be 50stories

Roark
March 18th, 2005, 12:01 AM
This only pertains to the lot due West of Brickell on the River.
Millenium has likely sold or jv'd with someone to get that project South of the Tennis facility done.

LATEST NEWS

South Florida Business Journal - 1:04 PM EST Thursday
Transwestern to market Brickell-area vacant land
A vacant, 2-and-a-half-acre parcel of land in downtown Miami, zoned for a high-rise, multi-family or retail uses, is for sale.

Millennium Partners, the New York-based developer of the 70-story Four Seasons Hotel and Tower on Brickell Avenue, is the seller. Commercial real estate firm Transwestern Commercial Services (TCS) is the marketer.

The 110,000-square-foot site is on the south side of the Miami River and on the east side of South Miami Avenue, immediately north of the Brickell Tennis Club. Neither company gave an idea on pricing.

Roark
March 18th, 2005, 12:06 AM
the thing i don't get about the citicentre project is that if they own 8 acres why are they trying to cram 2300 condos into four buildings of 50 stories unlike riverfront which is doing it in 6buildings in 6acres.Actually...Riverfront is 6 buidlings on 13.5 acres. That is 4 condo towers with some retail below and perhaps two office towers on the North side of the project. About 2,000 units in 4 towers approved...

The Mad Hatter!!
March 18th, 2005, 12:10 AM
South Florida Business Journal - 1:04 PM EST Thursday
Transwestern to market Brickell-area vacant land
A vacant, 2-and-a-half-acre parcel of land in downtown Miami, zoned for a high-rise, multi-family or retail uses, is for sale.


Millennium Partners, the New York-based developer of the 70-story Four Seasons Hotel and Tower on Brickell Avenue, is the seller. Commercial real estate firm Transwestern Commercial Services (TCS) is the marketer.

The 110,000-square-foot site is on the south side of the Miami River and on the east side of South Miami Avenue, immediately north of the Brickell Tennis Club. Neither company gave an idea on pricing. The addresses for the land are 431 and 451 S. Miami Ave.

Peter R. Harrison, the Transwestern senior vice president who heads the firm's Miami office, and Darryl Robinson, a Transwestern vice president, are handling the listing. Harrison said the team has engaged architectural firm Perkins & Will to determine "highest and best use" for the property.

"We have begun to market the site actively to both local and international developers," Harrison said. "Our goal is to close a sale this year."

Rich Baumert, the general manager of Millennium Partners-Miami, said Millennium chose Transwestern to market the property because of the developer's long association with Harrison and Robinson. The brokers joined Transwestern last year to launch the Houston firm's Miami operation.

"Pete and Darryl were responsible for the successful lease-up of the 200,000-square-foot Class A office space at the Four Seasons Hotel and Tower," Baumert said. "They also assisted us in the sale of other development sites owned by Millennium in Miami."

MIAballinboi
March 18th, 2005, 01:42 AM
awesome uptown great pics awesome 700 footer, great couple blocks from 4 seasons, wow brickell with 2 700 footers awesome, and theres the 511 foot park place 2, which is good to, great!!

MIAballinboi
March 18th, 2005, 02:16 AM
:cheers: a lil bird told me that infinity 1 is in final approving processes and should start in may or june, lets hope its soon.


the mastermind behind these projects, the one thats hand is in those renderings, lol, was just on our site, and saw the renderings that he and his team created, posted by uptown,

theyre awesome towers, when is this live miami planning thing? weekly, keep on getting those renderings.

good job :)

streetscapeer
March 18th, 2005, 03:30 AM
^^yeah..your pictures are very valuable, uptown...keep up the awesome work:):)

streetscapeer
March 18th, 2005, 03:33 AM
Infinity 2 is Bangin'

Roark
March 18th, 2005, 06:09 AM
^^yeah..your pictures are very valuable, uptown...keep up the awesome work:):)Agreed!!! Uptown you are great! Back in the days when we skipped school all I ever did was go to the shopping mall or check out the one hand mags in my tree fort! Nice to have the planning and zoning meetings televised!!! Keep up the good work, and we will all chip in for a tutor if they try to "hold you back".

ChuckScraperMiami#1
March 29th, 2005, 01:56 AM
^ It's almost as if everyone who has proposed anything is rushing to get an application in.
TRUE DALE :) , the Rates are going UP and the Big Boom is coming to an end in about 3 Years from Now :bash: , as expected.
ALSO, Dale and everyone :) check out the Wachovia Webcam on the Marina Blue site, the Second Huge Yellow Tower Construction Crane is being Installed as i SPEAK, GO CRANES !!! :cheers:

south florida dave
April 21st, 2005, 04:18 AM
FYI-i emailed the planning dept. today about the april projects report & i got an email saying that they'd had some problems getting it together but it should be up by the end of the week.

streetscapeer
April 21st, 2005, 04:25 AM
Great...we're all waiting for any updates:)

The Mad Hatter!!
April 21st, 2005, 04:25 AM
thanks dave we were all waiting

MIAballinboi
April 22nd, 2005, 01:23 AM
great dave thnx alot!

south florida dave
April 26th, 2005, 06:58 PM
the april is (finally) up. hopefully the lateness of the report this month doesn't become a trend.

http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp

just looking it over quickly, there doesn't seem to be too many new projects. new larger projects, anyway. there seems to be lots of new smaller projects.

a couple things i noticed: met 3 is being listed as 786ft, not 866ft. i'd like to think this is a typo, but i wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.

also, platinum on the bay has once again been shortened. it started out as 700+ ft, than to 625ft & now it's being listed as 589ft. it sucks to lose height, but, really, any of these heights are too tall for that neighborhood.

park place 2 has been bumped up a bit from 511ft to 540ft.

Dale
April 26th, 2005, 08:00 PM
God, I hope 786 ft. is a typo. Met 3's tear-out brochure in the latest Ocean Drive prominantly advertises '866 feet above the sidewalk.'

dave8721
April 26th, 2005, 08:12 PM
What I noticed: Electra, 3601-3701 N Miami Ave, 31 stories, 412ft. That puts it just to the north of Midtown Miami, abutting the freeway. Architect has a "kobikarp" email address.

dave8721
April 26th, 2005, 08:19 PM
And how about that cost it gives for the Icon Brickell: $1,251,326,394. Yes that is over a BILLION $$$

Whiteeclipse
April 26th, 2005, 10:11 PM
this must be a typo, I must be reading this wrong 16 units in Overtown and construction
cost is $11,600,000 so that would be $725,000 for each unit to build
what project is that

The Mad Hatter!!
April 27th, 2005, 01:44 AM
yea that electra is right on the corner of 36st,also lynx went down one floors and when down 2ft

MIAballinboi
April 27th, 2005, 02:38 AM
hope met 3 is a typo, good that brickells geting park place 2 taller, thats good.

if its not a typo, and in fact the faa interfered, then we would be screwed, if they wont even allow a 800 footer in the cbd, then theres def no 1000 footer,

but hopefully its a typo.

The Mad Hatter!!
April 27th, 2005, 02:51 AM
COULD THEY GET SUED FOR FALSE ADVERTISEMENT

The Mad Hatter!!
April 27th, 2005, 03:00 AM
I was thinking they may have gotten the right height,if the measured only the building not including crown

BHK25
April 27th, 2005, 02:28 PM
I was thinking they may have gotten the right height,if the measured only the building not including crown

Let's hope so. After all this time and all the advertisment and calling it the tallest res building south of NY I don't think they'll cut it down to 786. :sleepy: :bash:

Rx727sfl2002
April 27th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Across from the omni the owner which owns the whole block
except a house on the far southwest corner
is going to build a 600 ft 60 storytower which will consist of
a 3 building mixed use tower...

the 600footers are stretching north....



http://img217.echo.cx/img217/8601/16505gu.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Dale
April 27th, 2005, 04:26 PM
Rx/Roark/Chuck -

Any insight on why Met 3 is now listed at 786 ft. ?

streetscapeer
April 27th, 2005, 09:01 PM
^damn rx there are so many tall buidings to keep track of...let alone the smaller ones...great news. whenever renderings are available, I'd love to see them!

jzquince69
April 27th, 2005, 09:40 PM
Chuck!!!! you gotta go back to the Met 3 sales office and talk to that nice lady over there again......

I swear, guys, I don't even live in Miami... But if those S@#$ heads cut Met 3's height to 786' then... I think... I'm going to lose my mind....

MIAballinboi
April 28th, 2005, 04:52 AM
thnx jz 4 feeling the pain, chuck go with ur pickup truck and straightened things out.

nice news rx, thnx 4 informing us

dave8721
June 15th, 2005, 07:37 PM
Is the city ever going to update this thing again? The last time was early April.

MIAballinboi
June 16th, 2005, 05:34 AM
right, wats up with that, someone needs to tell em

Dale
June 16th, 2005, 05:43 AM
Is this any way to run a city ?

nimbyhater
June 16th, 2005, 06:43 AM
dale for mayor! he can do so much better than manny!

MIAballinboi
June 17th, 2005, 05:17 PM
June 2005 Edition, Fresh

http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/DR(June2005).xls

:cheers:

MIAballinboi
June 17th, 2005, 05:23 PM
http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp

funny look what it says on the site now,

"" *This report is updated on a regular basis. ""

used to be a monthly basis, thats why..

dave8721
June 17th, 2005, 07:56 PM
Some things I noticed:
-First and foremost -->808ft Brickell Citi Centre
-Miami Flatiron-->65 stories, 685ft.
-2 New projects on NE 79th ST west of Biscayne.
-The new court house is listed as 130ft, it looks taller than that to me.

Mike19
June 17th, 2005, 09:56 PM
I usually see all the buildings, but nowim only seeing a small chart that is a "summation" of the projects, how are u guys seeing the individual buildings?

Dale
June 17th, 2005, 10:48 PM
Some things I noticed:
-First and foremost -->808ft Brickell Citi Centre
-Miami Flatiron-->65 stories, 685ft.
-2 New projects on NE 79th ST west of Biscayne.
-The new court house is listed as 130ft, it looks taller than that to me.

Yeah, 130 ft. for the courthouse must be way-wrong. Isn't it 14 stories ? And a courthouse usually has floor-to-cieling ratios of between 15 and 20 ft.

dave8721
June 17th, 2005, 11:04 PM
I usually see all the buildings, but nowim only seeing a small chart that is a "summation" of the projects, how are u guys seeing the individual buildings?

Click the "listing" tab on the bottom of the report.

Mike19
June 17th, 2005, 11:07 PM
thnx dave

rider_of_rohan
June 18th, 2005, 10:11 PM
On 79th street WEST of Biscayne??? Unless things have changed over the years that area is not exactly desirable.

logybogy
June 18th, 2005, 10:46 PM
Oh, what a glorious location. There's the immigration building with block long lines stretching outside day after day. There's a porno theatre accross the street. Prostitutes, crack addicts, homeless everywhere you look.

At least that is how I remembered it the last time I was there which to be honest was a long time ago.

Has that area changed at all?

The Mad Hatter!!
June 19th, 2005, 02:18 AM
its still pretty bad but the last time i drove by 2months ago,,i saw the renovation of an office building into lofts it was called the bank ..looks sweet its ago 2 streets north of 79th

nimbyhater
June 19th, 2005, 04:39 AM
lands cheap in that area... thats the only explanation i can think of... and the developer knows its only a matter of time b4 that neighborhood... like all of biscayne... will soon b worth its weight in gold...

hopefully the cheap area will amount to cheap prices... and finally some housing the average joe can afford...

streetscapeer
June 19th, 2005, 02:51 PM
I passed by that loft project ("the bank") that hatter mentioned about 2 days ago. the area is still a bit gritty, but has improved a bit in my opinion since I last drove by a few years ago. "The Bank" looked like a really, really cool project. I can't wait to see the area turn around. It's bound to, even though there's alot of oposition from the Haitians

rider_of_rohan
June 20th, 2005, 12:33 AM
http://www.thebankloftsmiami.com/home.html
Here is the bank, that hatter and street were talking about. Ok I love that project, it has several things that appeal to me. First its in my old neighborhood (I lived about 2 houses east of this project, real close to home). Second it is affordable to a much larger group of people, with units starting at I believe around $117,000. It also doesnt overpower the area as there was a bank there before so its just an upgrade, noone is displaced. This can only help this area move up. As the description of the area by logy shows, its not something they would put on a post card. I would love to see that area as a place that joe Q middle class American would like to live in. And if they get more projects like this, maybe they will build a target and a home depot near by :D just kidding

ChuckScraperMiami#1
June 20th, 2005, 02:29 AM
Chuck!!!! you gotta go back to the Met 3 sales office and talk to that nice lady over there again......

I swear, guys, I don't even live in Miami... But if those S@#$ heads cut Met 3's height to 786' then... I think... I'm going to lose my mind....

JZ :) , I'm Losing my mind, Guess What !!!, the over 500 room Sheraton Biscayne Bay Hotel at 501 Brickell AVE. is Closed by the Jorge Perez Related Group, laid off all employees as of Monday, June 13th, 2005 at 12 Noon. They even took down the Sheraton huge Signs and closed the parking garage. The Icon Towers will be built :soon: , Tower # 1 is Sold out !!! :cheers:
:cheers1:

jzquince69
June 20th, 2005, 05:34 PM
thats incredible, Chuck. I used to think Orlando was like Sim City. Its Miami.

Chuck, you gotta find out about World Towers 1,125 footers and the probability they will get a height variance.

Mike19
June 20th, 2005, 05:50 PM
Does anyone know anything about a supposed development by Fortune of a 950 ft building. Im hearing rumors. Also does anyone have a new rendering of the higher flatiron. Or is it basically the same desing but just taller.

Dale
June 20th, 2005, 05:57 PM
thats incredible, Chuck. I used to think Orlando was like Sim City. Its Miami.

Chuck, you gotta find out about World Towers 1,125 footers and the probability they will get a height variance.

Yes, Chuck. It is imperative that we have this information today ! :bash: :)

dave8721
June 20th, 2005, 06:02 PM
Does anyone know anything about a supposed development by Fortune of a 950 ft building. Im hearing rumors. Also does anyone have a new rendering of the higher flatiron. Or is it basically the same desing but just taller.

I think this is the correct Flatiron renderring, the height looks about right. I like the way it steps over the road there.

http://www.kobikarp.com/images/Flatiron%20v1.jpg

Dale
June 20th, 2005, 06:13 PM
That also may be a preview of what Empire World Towers might look like, as I beleive the architect is Kobi Karp.

mileageman
June 20th, 2005, 07:56 PM
JZ :) , I'm Losing my mind, Guess What !!!, the over 500 room Sheraton Biscayne Bay Hotel at 501 Brickell AVE. is Closed by the Jorge Perez Related Group, laid off all employees as of Monday, June 13th, 2005 at 12 Noon. They even took down the Sheraton huge Signs and closed the parking garage. The Icon Towers will be built :soon: , Tower # 1 is Sold out !!! :cheers:
:cheers1:

Shouldn't it have been posted here?:
http://www.floridajobs.org/react/warn.asp?year=2005

The Mad Hatter!!
June 20th, 2005, 08:32 PM
demolition of the sheraton isn't until atleast october,as stated by tom daly of the related group

Mike19
June 20th, 2005, 10:41 PM
excellent building, quite a nice design

zpcsc
June 21st, 2005, 01:53 AM
I passed by that loft project ("the bank") that hatter mentioned about 2 days ago. the area is still a bit gritty, but has improved a bit in my opinion since I last drove by a few years ago. "The Bank" looked like a really, really cool project. I can't wait to see the area turn around. It's bound to, even though there's alot of oposition from the Haitians


I saw The Bank advertised over a year ago but the area through me off. Even though the project looks great & prices are just right the area needs a lot of work. I don't know how long it will take for that area to change. We saw this project about the same time Loft2 was in the works and we decided to stick to Loft2. It's a shame that the area is what it is right now.

MAH45462
June 21st, 2005, 02:40 AM
Oh, what a glorious location. There's the immigration building with block long lines stretching outside day after day. There's a porno theatre accross the street. Prostitutes, crack addicts, homeless everywhere you look.

At least that is how I remembered it the last time I was there which to be honest was a long time ago.

Has that area changed at all?

The area has changed dramaticly. It is still a little "sketchy", but nothing what it used to be. It is now home to a plethora of trendy resturaunts and eatiers (including Dogma, Uva, and Starbucks), lot's of independent fashion boutiques, and photo studios. Also, what used to be a porn theatre is now a very hip gay nightclub. Don't get me wrong, though. The drug dealers, hookers, and homeless are still there, but this is a city, not the suburbs. It is a gritty urban area that has come a long way and looks to have a bright future.

dave8721
June 21st, 2005, 03:17 PM
The area has changed dramaticly. It is still a little "sketchy", but nothing what it used to be. It is now home to a plethora of trendy resturaunts and eatiers (including Dogma, Uva, and Starbucks), lot's of independent fashion boutiques, and photo studios. Also, what used to be a porn theatre is now a very hip gay nightclub. Don't get me wrong, though. The drug dealers, hookers, and homeless are still there, but this is a city, not the suburbs. It is a gritty urban area that has come a long way and looks to have a bright future.

Actually the gay nightclub closed and turned back into a porn theater. The city is playing harball with the owner though, they are going after him for years worth of unpaid parking surcharges claiming he lets INS employees park there if they pay him.

The Mad Hatter!!
June 21st, 2005, 10:18 PM
hey if anyone gets a chance to go to dogmas they should go,i must say they have the best hotdogs in miami and i also love the soyka's restuarant....its great

jzquince69
June 21st, 2005, 10:41 PM
I like Flatiron-- it looks Manhattan-ish. I hope Kobi gets a variance for Empire World.

havok100
June 21st, 2005, 10:50 PM
The area where "Bank" is being renovated has improved from what it was a few years ago. It is still shady around 79st to 83 st. south of there you find Dogma, Starbucks, some boutique stores. There is a DOGMA in South Beach, corner of 16th Street and Washington, just opened a few months ago. Anyone know what happened to Platinum, I just noticed a Budget Mini Storage on Biscayne and 25, Prime development area. Too bad they built that piece of crap there, fortunately it has retail on the lower floor.

The Mad Hatter!!
June 21st, 2005, 10:56 PM
plaitnum is underconstruction it should be by the 10 floor by now

mileageman
July 26th, 2005, 08:38 PM
July is out

MIAballinboi
July 26th, 2005, 08:49 PM
^good eye, i was just about to post it, heres the link anyway

http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/MonthlyDR(July2005).xls

The Mad Hatter!!
July 26th, 2005, 09:18 PM
verite and 1400 biscayne are intresting

dave8721
July 26th, 2005, 10:36 PM
Damn you guys beat me to it. I was just noticed it was updated too. New findings:

1400 Biscayne Blvd (thats the property directly to the north of the new PAC)- 62 floors 648ft, 727 condo units, 40,000 sqft of retail, and 1,517 parking spaces.

Verite (lists the address as 1600 NE 1 ST but that must be wrong, could it be 1600 NE 1 AVE?) - 55 floors, 234 condos, 65,000 sqft of retail, 313,000 sqft of office, and 877 parking spaces.

Crosswinds is called Sawyers Walk now - 4 buildings topping out at 14 floors 145 feet, 1258 units, 61,472 sqft of retail and 1592 parking places.

Brickell View Terrace (936 SW 1st Ave - To the west of the Brickell metrorail station) - 23 floors 210 feet, 118 condos, 2100 sqft of retail and 178 parking places.

Diursa (3105 SW 3 AVE in the Roads) 12 floors 132 feet with 48 condos and 80 parking places.

Galardi South (1135 N Miami Ave - Just to the south of I -195) 10 floors with no condos and no office!!! Just 20,500 sqft of retail and night club space. Interesting.

Tiziano (54 NE 41st ST in the Design District) - 16 floors 140 feet, 45 condos, 3432 sqft of retail, and 78 parking places.

A new project called "Coconut Grove Transit Village" but no details are listed.

A bunch of midrises for Little Havana.

Capital is listed as 649 feet :bash:

Met3 is still listed as 786 feet

logybogy
July 26th, 2005, 11:11 PM
A lot of these buildings are coming in around 650feet.

Is that becoming the defacto height limit in Miami because of the FAA?

Dale
July 26th, 2005, 11:27 PM
649 for the most part.

The Mad Hatter!!
July 27th, 2005, 02:48 AM
coconut groove tod development
http://www.miamidade.gov/transit/joint_index.asp

dean lewis site-architect for verite no rendering yet
www.dbla1.us.

ChuckScraperMiami#1
July 27th, 2005, 03:15 PM
Dave :) I'm glad you mention this anyway, Great Update, the 1400 Biscayne, that piece of crap building with those low life stores including that Rags Carpet Discount store :bash: that makes Biscayne Bvld. look like 7734, just turn those numbers upside down and you can read it like I mean, lol. :rofl:

Also Dave :| , I don't know why you keep getting that Met 3 height of 786, When you and I konw for a fact its going to be almost 900, and I say that because its still going to be over that 866 Feet mark when completed with the extra on top. well anyway, 4 years from now, we'll know for sure ,How High, lol. :cheers:

south florida dave
August 20th, 2005, 08:47 PM
hello fellow miami forumers. i'm alive & well in nebraska & thought i'd chime in to say that the august report is now out & it has a few new towers listed. the most interesting is 1100 Brickell, listed as 835 ft. & 72 stories. it's the property just north of the jw marriott on brickell.

miami just continues to roll...

report (http://ci.miami.fl.us/planning/pages/land%5Fdevelopment/largescaledev.asp)

streetscapeer
August 20th, 2005, 08:53 PM
woohoo:D

rider_of_rohan
August 20th, 2005, 09:57 PM
Wow, that area is really reaching for the sky, kiss downtown goodbye Brickell will rule the skys. The Omni project is looking huge too, 4639 condos, 8860 parking spots. Only 227k retail space. Doesnt mention any office or hotel. Thats a heck of a lot of condos. Anyone seen any plans for that project?

MIAballinboi
August 20th, 2005, 10:06 PM
^wow thnx dave for cactchin it, good eye.

brickell is ruling the cbd so far in these new heights.

but lets hope those 1000 footers come to the cbd like rx says, then they can claim back the title

ChuckScraperMiami#1
August 21st, 2005, 02:51 AM
hello fellow miami forumers. i'm alive & well in nebraska & thought i'd chime in to say that the august report is now out & it has a few new towers listed. the most interesting is 1100 Brickell, listed as 835 ft. & 72 stories. it's the property just north of the jw marriott on brickell.

miami just continues to roll...

report (http://ci.miami.fl.us/planning/pages/land%5Fdevelopment/largescaledev.asp)

S.F.Dave, :wave: you got to be kidding me, I work for Miami-Dade County for over 28 years now and check the station in the median of Brickell avenue at 1100 Brickell which is the JW Marriott Hotel, used to be 25 years ago as the Channel 6 Wcix Station in the same property, and the Tower to the north of JW Marriott has just been redone and fairly new, I can't believe their going to knock that one down, please check again and make sure, thanks.

Oh, S.F.Dave :) , WELCOME BACH, bro. :cheers:

The Mad Hatter!!
August 21st, 2005, 04:16 AM
Tower heights concern FAA
Susan Stabley
It is uncertain what the outcome will be for Leviev Boymelgreen's Marquis or Fortune Development's application to build a 950-foot office tower.

http://southflorida.bizjournals.com.../06/story1.html
http://gisims2.co.miami-dade.fl.us/...sColorphoto=YES
950foot office tower?i can only remember one site that is owned by fortune and thats at 1100 brickell

The Mad Hatter!!
August 21st, 2005, 04:17 AM
so it seems that fortune 950office tower was cut down 100+ft

The Mad Hatter!!
August 21st, 2005, 04:25 AM
most intresting projects have to be

rail72,development featuring future streetcar 396ft 30 stories
electra 2,second phase of electra 243ft
omni development------4000+ condos designed by arquit.(is this the terra project or the argent project)
1100 brickell 400+ condo,200000 office-800+ft

south florida dave
August 22nd, 2005, 03:26 AM
S.F.Dave, :wave: you got to be kidding me, I work for Miami-Dade County for over 28 years now and check the station in the median of Brickell avenue at 1100 Brickell which is the JW Marriott Hotel, used to be 25 years ago as the Channel 6 Wcix Station in the same property, and the Tower to the north of JW Marriott has just been redone and fairly new, I can't believe their going to knock that one down, please check again and make sure, thanks.

Oh, S.F.Dave :) , WELCOME BACH, bro. :cheers:

yeah, you're right chuck. i got it wrong. it's actually 1101 Brickell, not 1100. i read an article about this property a while back when it was purchsed that said the developer was thinking about saving the building that fronts Brickell & either demolishing or adding onto the garage behind it.

personally, i hope they demolish the building & put up the new 835ft. tower directly on Brickell. i wanna be able to stand on the sidewalk & look directly up at Brickell's tallest.

ChuckScraperMiami#1
August 22nd, 2005, 05:24 AM
:gaah:
yeah, you're right chuck. i got it wrong. it's actually 1101 Brickell, not 1100. i read an article about this property a while back when it was purchsed that said the developer was thinking about saving the building that fronts Brickell & either demolishing or adding onto the garage behind it.

personally, i hope they demolish the building & put up the new 835ft. tower directly on Brickell. i wanna be able to stand on the sidewalk & look directly up at Brickell's tallest.

S.F.Dave :wave: , you the Man :rock: , okay you were right from the beginning, Lets get Which side of Brickell correct here, lol, the 1100 BRICKELL is on the west side of my station in the median of Brickell Ave. Thats the older building on that site and YES !!! I can see a 835 foot tower in the future in my magic glass ball. :lol:
Okay S.F. Dave :laugh: , on the East side of Brickell ave is the 1101 JW Marriott and the MELLON Bank tower behind that, and the redone office tower to the north. :sleepy:

Wow :booze: , we got that straight , now, lol. Sorry S.F. Dave :hi: , I got confused :nuts: when you said that property just north of the JW Marriott in post # 198 Go Cranes !!! :applause:

dave8721
August 22nd, 2005, 04:18 PM
I wonder why they included old buildings in the report this time? Montserrat was built 5 years ago, as was the Renzi building and several others. Also did you notice they have Met2 at 647 feet, and they upped that "Joint Development - Miami Parking" thing to 41 floors and 418 feet.

Also why do developers keep proposing towers just to the SE of the airport? Hasn't every single one so far been rejected by the FAA? Midpoint Towers is listed at 15 floors and 161 feet (a 90 footer got rejected right across the street) at 4021 NW 11 Street (LeJeune and 11th Street).

dave8721
August 22nd, 2005, 04:33 PM
Also 500 Brickell is listed as 51 floors 523 feet (rather than 41 floors 423 feet like before). Is this just the addition of the new tower to the rear? or was the whole thing made bigger?

south florida dave
August 22nd, 2005, 05:18 PM
hmm, i really didn't pay that much attention to the heights this time. interesting that 500 Brickell is now at 51/523. what new tower to the rear are you talking about, though, dave. i hadn't heard about anything.

south florida dave
August 22nd, 2005, 05:25 PM
i just read the comments for 500 Brickell on the spreadsheet. when the hell did they decide to add another tower? and where are they gonna put it? on the same lot? doesn't look like it'd fit there without a substantial re-design of the building.

anyone know any of the details about this?

JEmanuel56
August 22nd, 2005, 08:42 PM
SFLDAVE i heard something like this but the 2 towers will remain the same at 43 stories connected at roof but a 3rd tower will be built directly to the west of these towers. in front of the metromover and across from BOR phase 2. See the lot that had the trees and rocks where they were using as 500brickell employees parking is now owned by related for a 3rd tower at 51 stories 230 condo and 9000 retail to add to the existing 2 towers called 500brickell station. now if they are going to redesign the whole project beats me. anyone have any other info on this? ROARK, RX,????

The Mad Hatter!!
August 22nd, 2005, 09:43 PM
500 brickell station sounds intresting but i hope it looks better than 500brickell,

can anyone answer my question is the project omni development,terra's project or the argent project which are the owners of the omni mall.?

dave8721
August 22nd, 2005, 09:47 PM
Does anyone know if they plan on tearing down the existing 19-story office tower on 1101 Brickell or building the new one on top of the parking garage or on the open land at the Eastern edge of the property. here is a pic of the property from the Property Appraiser page:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/dave8721/md_prop_S0141015387239163028.jpg

dave8721
August 22nd, 2005, 09:53 PM
500 brickell station sounds intresting but i hope it looks better than 500brickell,

can anyone answer my question is the project omni development,terra's project or the argent project which are the owners of the omni mall.?

I was just assuming it was the Herald land, but that address is actually the Omni, not the Herald. So this is the Omni project...4600 condos on the Omni land...WOW :eek2:

south florida dave
August 22nd, 2005, 09:57 PM
i see. i thought 500 Brickell took up the whole lot. didn't realize there's still space to the west to squeeze in another tower. looks like it would be directly south of the Brickell on the River south tower if built. good stuff.

The Mad Hatter!!
August 22nd, 2005, 10:00 PM
dave i really doubt that the existing tower will be demolished since it costed them 70million to buy it and many consulates are already occupying space,

south florida dave
August 22nd, 2005, 10:04 PM
Does anyone know if they plan on tearing down the existing 19-story office tower on 1101 Brickell or building the new one on top of the parking garage or on the open land at the Eastern edge of the property. here is a pic of the property from the Property Appraiser page:


i can't find the article, but i remember reading when the property was bought that the developer was deciding whether or not to knock the whole building down or just the parking garage in the back of it to build the new tower. i wanna say that they were leaning towards only knocking down the garage, but i'm not sure.

The Mad Hatter!!
August 22nd, 2005, 10:15 PM
sfd,i think you're thinking of the same article i was just reading but that article was about 1000brickell ave.

mileageman
August 23rd, 2005, 03:21 PM
REAL ESTATE

Condo construction reaches new heights

For the first time, more than 70,000 condominium and apartment units are now under construction or in some stage of planning in Miami, according to the city's August Large Scale Development Report.

Under construction are 14,143 units; 21,284 are approved to be built; 12,252 are in the application phase; and 23,856 are in what the city calls its preliminary phase.

Observers note many of the planned buildings will likely not be built. But the numbers, released monthly by the city's Planning Department, represent a significant jump both in terms of projects in the works and completed.

The 71,526 units either under construction or in some state of planning represent a 15 percent jump over the 61,975 units in March. In that same time period, nearly 2,000 units were completed, according to the city report.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/12448932.htm

renner01
August 23rd, 2005, 03:50 PM
put your source please!!!
so everyone can go the article

dave8721
September 28th, 2005, 02:56 PM
Am I the only one getting a little impatient about the release of this months report from the City? Its almost October and it hasn't been updated since mid August. I'm curious to see if there are any more details about the Omni development, or if they have the Herald stuff on there, or Empire WT.

The Mad Hatter!!
September 28th, 2005, 09:41 PM
i'm not expecting ewt to be on there until they get approved from the faa,and i'm waiting impatiently to see the details of the herald development which was submitted 2weeks ago

dave8721
October 17th, 2005, 08:16 PM
The spreadsheet has been updated for October.

http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp

dave8721
October 17th, 2005, 08:37 PM
Some things I've seen right away:

-Flatiron is now 73 stories, 849 feet!!! (with 600,000 sqft of office space)
-1101 Brickell is now 74 stories, 849 feet (up from 835)
-1490 Biscayne Blvd (1400 Biscayne blvd parcel, accross from Herald condos): 73 stories, 744 feet
-Omni Development (6 TOWERS!!): 72 floors, 700 feet.
-31st Park (350 NE 32nd ST): 49 stories, 510 feet
-500 Brickell (new tower): 51 stories, 599 feet
-600 Brickell: 52 stories, 648 feet
-Anderson Opera Center Tower (14th street & Biscayne): 57 stories, 649 feet
-The Chelsea (1550 Biscayne): 52 floors, 649 feet
-City Sqare (accross from Herald HQ): 62 floors, 640 feet
-One Herald Plaza (2 towers) 64 floors, 649 feet.
-City View (City joint development) is up to 41 floors, 418 feet.
-Electra on the Bay (700 NE 26th TER): 43 floors, 463 feet
-Lima (2955 Biscayne): 41 floors, 473 feet
-Marquis West (127 NE 11th ST): 34 floors, 400 feet
-Max Tower (Verite, 1600 NE 1st ST): 39 floors, 508 feet
-Urbana Tower (1755 NE 2nd AVE): 42 floors, 549 feet

New Midtown Towers:
5 Midtown: 31 floors, 360 feet
6 Midtown: 32 floors, 330 feet
Midtown Park: 8 floors, 120 feet


and last but certainly not least, showing up on the list we have:
Empire World Towers: 106 stories, 1200 feet.

Dale
October 17th, 2005, 08:44 PM
Two towers at 849 ft. ? Sounds suspiciously that the developers have received indications that that's the maximum allowable height for the area.

Or maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part.

But then why would developers continue to submit projects they knew to be too high ?

dave8721
October 17th, 2005, 08:45 PM
Two towers at 849 ft. ? Sounds suspiciously that the developers have received indications that that's the maximum allowable height for the area.

Or maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part.

But then why would developers continue to submit projects they knew to be too high ?

I had the exact same thought. Good to know great minds think alike. Not only did they both just choose 849 feet, they both RAISED previous heights to 849.

Dale
October 17th, 2005, 08:46 PM
*hair raising on the back of my neck*

Dale
October 17th, 2005, 08:53 PM
So here's what we know are proposed at the moment:

1,124 ft.
1,124
866
849
849
808

DGM
October 17th, 2005, 09:36 PM
Oops forget this post. While manipulating the spreadsheet i messed up the columns to the right of stories and thought that the empire world towers was withdrawn but it seems it is actually preliminary.

dave8721
October 17th, 2005, 09:42 PM
So here's what we know are proposed at the moment:

1,124 ft.
1,124
866
849
849
808

Actually it still lists Met3 at 786 feet

The Mad Hatter!!
October 17th, 2005, 09:45 PM
interesting...they're has to be something up with most projects increasing there height.....anyways did anyone see that 600 brickell added a height but nothing to get our hopes up since 600 brickell has been listed for awhile

MIAballinboi
October 17th, 2005, 10:17 PM
interesting report, guess 849 is really the max height in brickell, like that old school map that showed the height zones.

The Mad Hatter!!
October 17th, 2005, 10:19 PM
i don't think that 849 is that height in brickell because why did sma have to reduce there height of 849?


i wonder if flatiron will be redesigned,or will floors just be added

dave8721
October 17th, 2005, 10:20 PM
The Ice Tower, 26 floors, 312ft Office Tower (no residential) in Overtown at 530 NW 1st CT. An office building is always good. Thats just to the SW of the Administrative building U/C and a couple of blocks NW of the new Courthouse.

mileageman
October 17th, 2005, 11:13 PM
Now up to 87,592 units total in development. Wasn't midtown supposed to include office space, why are both new towers residential only?

Dale
October 17th, 2005, 11:45 PM
That's just plain wierd about Met 3 still being listed at 786 ft.

The Mad Hatter!!
October 18th, 2005, 01:06 AM
well we have some renderings from dean lewis a bit small but w/e
http://www.dbla1.us/online_projects.html
i really hate the max-verite design its looks super bulky,the same with rail72.
but then avenue one and 31st park look super thin

rider_of_rohan
October 18th, 2005, 03:52 AM
Some things I've seen right away:

-Flatiron is now 73 stories, 849 feet!!! (with 600,000 sqft of office space)
-1101 Brickell is now 74 stories, 849 feet (up from 835)
-1490 Biscayne Blvd (1400 Biscayne blvd parcel, accross from Herald condos): 73 stories, 744 feet
-Omni Development (6 TOWERS!!): 72 floors, 700 feet.
-31st Park (350 NE 32nd ST): 49 stories, 510 feet
-500 Brickell (new tower): 51 stories, 599 feet
-600 Brickell: 52 stories, 648 feet
-Anderson Opera Center Tower (14th street & Biscayne): 57 stories, 649 feet
-The Chelsea (1550 Biscayne): 52 floors, 649 feet
-City Sqare (accross from Herald HQ): 62 floors, 640 feet
-One Herald Plaza (2 towers) 64 floors, 649 feet.
-City View (City joint development) is up to 41 floors, 418 feet.
-Electra on the Bay (700 NE 26th TER): 43 floors, 463 feet
-Lima (2955 Biscayne): 41 floors, 473 feet
-Marquis West (127 NE 11th ST): 34 floors, 400 feet
-Max Tower (Verite, 1600 NE 1st ST): 39 floors, 508 feet
-Urbana Tower (1755 NE 2nd AVE): 42 floors, 549 feet

New Midtown Towers:
5 Midtown: 31 floors, 360 feet
6 Midtown: 32 floors, 330 feet
Midtown Park: 8 floors, 120 feet


and last but certainly not least, showing up on the list we have:
Empire World Towers: 106 stories, 1200 feet.

WOW!!! :banana: :tyty: :righton:

DGM
October 18th, 2005, 04:55 AM
well we have some renderings from dean lewis a bit small but w/e
http://www.dbla1.us/online_projects.html
i really hate the max-verite design its looks super bulky,the same with rail72.
but then avenue one and 31st park look super thin

You can get bigger pictures of them if you browse through this page (http://www.dbla1.us/architecture_and_design.html). Equinox and Avant (#11 and #12) look very similar with the exception of the trampoline looking thing on top of the Avant. I would be so scared jumping up and down on that trampoline. I like the Robinson 100 project but it doesnt say where it will be.

jzquince69
October 19th, 2005, 12:12 AM
Holy shite. they increased Flatiron by alot. we need an updated "The List" with the new figures. this is impressive. I thought I was impressed 6 months ago. this is crazy. this isn't even Dubai or new hotels in Vegas. amazing.

Oceans
October 19th, 2005, 12:43 AM
Hhmmmm me thinks the top U.S skylines will go something like this

1.New york
2.Chicago
3.Miami
4.everybody else

Lee
October 19th, 2005, 12:50 AM
Are there any renderings of these tallest towers?

The Mad Hatter!!
October 19th, 2005, 12:56 AM
which ones?
empire-yes
flatiron-yes
1101-yes
met3-yes

Oceans
October 19th, 2005, 12:59 AM
1101=yes
Met 3= yes but at what height???866 or 786 cuz I am confused
Flatiron=yes
Empire=the jury is still out on this one IMO.

nimbyhater
October 19th, 2005, 02:44 AM
where is that rail 72 project goin... luks fukin sweet

Dale
October 19th, 2005, 04:52 AM
1101=yes
Met 3= yes but at what height???866 or 786 cuz I am confused
Flatiron=yes
Empire=the jury is still out on this one IMO.

Apparently, 786 is the old height, still on file with the city. 866 is the redesigned - and currently advertised height. I just don't know whether the redesign has been approved yet. Maybe Hatter knows.

dave8721
October 19th, 2005, 02:44 PM
where is that rail 72 project goin... luks fukin sweet

Rail72 is going waaay up north at NE 72nd St and NE 4th AVE on a rail yard.

Map of site:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=7205+NE+4th+Ave,+miami&ll=25.844200,-80.189080&spn=0.019006,0.040076&t=k&hl=en

The Mad Hatter!!
October 19th, 2005, 09:56 PM
Apparently, 786 is the old height, still on file with the city. 866 is the redesigned - and currently advertised height. I just don't know whether the redesign has been approved yet. Maybe Hatter knows.
yea it was accepted and there renderings showed it way above 786ft

Dale
October 20th, 2005, 02:08 AM
dave -

Nothing new uncovered for us in the past few hours ? What have you done for us lately ? ;)