centralized pandemonium
February 11th, 2005, 11:37 PM
Show your country's Air Force.
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View Full Version : Show your country's Air Force. centralized pandemonium February 11th, 2005, 11:37 PM Show your country's Air Force. :runaway: centralized pandemonium February 11th, 2005, 11:44 PM Here are some images to set the ball rolling. http://www.vintageaircraft.org/images/Vintage1_i.jpg http://www2.acc.af.mil/gallery/images/aircraft/archive/fi/0000002b.jpg rub1613 February 12th, 2005, 12:25 AM Canada? :) GENIUS LOCI February 12th, 2005, 01:06 AM Italian Air Forces Here they are http://www.deagostiniedicola.it/ARTICOLI/modellismo/mostra%20volo/images/big-07.jpg http://www.sapere.it/tca/minisite/arte/leonardo/img/viteaerea3.jpg Powered by Leonardo's muscles :D Sen February 12th, 2005, 01:10 AM Here are some images to set the ball rolling. http://www.vintageaircraft.org/images/Vintage1_i.jpg http://www2.acc.af.mil/gallery/images/aircraft/archive/fi/0000002b.jpg isn't that US Navy? algonquin February 12th, 2005, 01:31 AM CANADA! present http://www.sci.fi/~fta/CF-18_410_3.jpg http://www.sci.fi/~fta/CF-18_Flares.jpg past the homegrown AVRO ARROW, the most advanced jet fighter of it's time... http://gateway.uvic.ca/schoolnet/digicol/gp-images/gpstandard/s83-188.1.4.19.jpg http://www.airlineboutique.com/images/Postcards/3xAvro_Arrows.GIF http://www.homestead.com/BBlackSheep/files/avro_arrow.gif see Canada's warplane heritage at the Canadian WArplane Herotage Museum (http://www.warplane.com/index.html) Sen February 12th, 2005, 02:10 AM RCAF http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/cf-18/hornet1_e.asp Syd Barrett February 12th, 2005, 02:56 AM Royal Air Force (UK) http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_arctic_gr7_1.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_arctic_gr7_2.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_arctic_gr7_3.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_arctic_gr7_4.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_arctic_gr7_5.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_arctic_gr7_6.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_typhoon17_10.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_shar_jh_02.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_c130j_jh_04.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_colt_5.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/images/limage_spadefac_07.jpg TallBox February 12th, 2005, 03:08 AM Her Majesty's Royal Air Force.. http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/_data/objects/110610/logo_thumbnail.gif Tornado GR4 - main strike aircraft... http://www.rafmarham.co.uk/relations/stories/2sqn-90th/tornados/gr4-9x.jpg http://www.air-and-space.com/20031018%20Miramar/PICT0130%20Tornado%20RAF%20right%20front%20l.jpg http://www.mod.uk/img/publications/iraq/6-1.jpg Tornado F3 - air defence/interdiction fighter... to be phased out by Eurofighter http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/tornf3_8.jpg http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/torndo_8.jpg Jaguar - multirole, reconnaisance and cas platform... to be phased out by Eurofighter http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/jag_8.jpg Eurofighter - multirole, air defence fighter http://www.militaryairshows.net/riat2004/img_0897.jpg http://www.militaryairshows.net/riat2004/img_0874.jpg http://www.geocities.com/flex_cs/Typhoona.jpg http://www.sga.se/ef.jpg GR7 Harrier - cas http://warships.ru/england/Sea_Harrier/Harrier_GR7_i_Harrier_T10.jpg http://home.online.no/~naslakse/div/Flyulykker/Mehamnulykka1982/harrier_gr7_line_snw_01.jpeg C-17 Globemaster - strategic airlift http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/images/c17_raf.jpg http://news.mod.uk/img/pressdatabase/images/supportingImages/large/c17_tn.jpg C-130J Hercules - tactical airlift http://www.aircraftpictures.de/Grafiken/Hercules-gross/hercules-raf-str-01.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/1/raf/gfx/photos/raf-orbat-hercules.jpg Nimrod MRA4 - maritime surveillance http://www.pcfltd.co.uk/images/mra4.jpg E-3D Sentry - airborne warning and control (something like that) http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/interactive/us.aircraft/surveillance/29.e3.sentry.jpg K1/KC1/C2/C2A Tristar - refuelling and transport http://www.tim-beach.com/riat01/heavies/tristar.jpg http://www.armedforces.co.uk/raf/listings/raftristarb.jpg VC10 - refuelling http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafbrizenorton/images/gallery/vc10_05.jpg http://www.mod.uk/img/images/%5B(1805)-20-02-2001%5Dair-refuel.jpg Chinook HC2 - transport, rotary http://www.janes.com/defence/gallery/saifs_gallery/images3/0022.jpg Puma HC1 - transport, rotary http://images.janes.com/aerospace/military/gallery/riat/images/puma.jpg EH101 Merlin - transport http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/international/agwest/EH101/graeh1m.jpg http://defence-data.com/paris99/raf01side.jpg Sea King HAR3 - sar http://www.scramble.nl/mil/1/raf/gfx/photos/raf-main-seaking.jpg Skybean February 12th, 2005, 03:20 AM http://www.hillsdale.edu/personal/Westblade/pix/humor/CanRAF.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Titan62/Canadian%20Military/Snowbirds_04b.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Titan62/Canadian%20Military/Hercs_05b.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Titan62/Canadian%20Military/CF18_01b.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Titan62/Canadian%20Military/CF18_06b.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Titan62/Canadian%20Military/Hercs_02b.jpg http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/thxu18.jpg http://iar-ira.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/photos/aete_hornet_rocket_firing.jpg http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/hornet_cf18/wallpaper/2000hornet.jpg Avro Arrow, limited production in Canada in the 1950s (top speed of Mach 2.0) So much potential..... http://www.howto-onlinebooks.com/arrowps76.jpg http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Titan62/Avro%20Arrow/Arrow_03.jpg http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Titan62/Avro%20Arrow/Arrow_01.jpg ejd03 February 12th, 2005, 03:46 AM Korean airforce KF-16 C/D fighter (153 aircrafts) http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data3/bingo_98/imgbingo_46/ddx2003/20602/ddx2003_42.jpg http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data/bingo_87/imgbingo_36/hwak3758/21081/hwak3758_41.jpg KF-16E bomber (about 81) http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data/bingo_82/imgbingo_32/cap110/16398/cap110_28.jpg http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data3/bingo_87/imgbingo_36/hwak3758/21180/hwak3758_27.jpg http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data/bingo_1/imgbingo_42/puppl456/31042/puppl456_7.jpg F-4E bomber (195 bombers) http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data2/bingo_34/imgbingo_34/ykyh/19093/ykyh_50.jpg http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data2/bingo_34/imgbingo_34/ykyh/19093/ykyh_15.jpg F-5 Tiger E bomber (111 ) http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data/bingo_22/imgbingo_71/dlwpgml1212/29402/dlwpgml1212_3.jpg C- 130 H (about 10) http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data2/bingo_11/imgbingo_11/spartacus2/16966/spartacus2_43.jpg CN-235 (25) http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data3/bingo_15/imgbingo_69/ebez76/23679/ebez76_49.jpg A-50 (many... ) http://imgnews.naver.com/image/023/2003/09/04/200309040302_00.jpg T-50 (too many.. maybe 200?) http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data3/bingo_98/imgbingo_46/ddx2003/20602/ddx2003_32.jpg don't know the name.. sorry (approved, 2008.. about 8 aircrafts) http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data/bingo_62/imgbingo_64/masasiroo/13664/masasiroo_16.jpg don't know neither.. --; sorry (2006, about 6 aircrafts) http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data2/bingo_49/imgbingo_54/namjins1/14072/namjins1_12.jpg F-15K (2008 about 82 aircrafts) the most advanced F-15, world's best multi-role fighter http://cbingoimage.naver.com/data2/bingo_7/imgbingo_43/xmfpsj86/27607/xmfpsj86_24.jpg http://img.news.yahoo.co.kr/picture/80/20040603/8020040603_10540905.jpg http://www.defence.co.kr/html/bbs/data/magazine/F-15K.jpg http://www.geocities.com/flex_cs/F-15k.jpg http://www.airforce.mil.kr/ENG/PC/2643_1.2_img1_1.gif Length: Height: Wing Span: Propulsion: 63.8 ft (19.45 m) 18.5 ft (5.65 m) 42.8 ft (13.05 m) Two General Electric F110 turbofan engines in 29,000 lb thrust class with afterburning. Weight: 45,000 lb (20,411 kg) class 81,000 lb (36,700 kg) max gross takeoff Speed: Mach 2.5 class Armament: F-15A/B/C/D F-15E Mix of air-to-air weaponry includes: 20mm cannon, AIM-120 (AMRAAM) missiles, AIM-9 (Sidewinder) missiles, AIM-7 (Sparrow) missiles Air-to-ground ordnance includes precision guided munitions, and a variety of missiles and bombs. Air-to-air weaponry includes cannon, four medium- and four short-range missiles. GENIUS LOCI February 12th, 2005, 01:17 PM Italian Air Force (Aeronautica Militare Italiana) ...and now for real :) http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Default.asp?idsez=22&idente=122 AMX http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6584-2.jpg http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/Gallery/Images/galVel4923-2.jpg AMX-T http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6564-2.jpg http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel4937-2.jpg TORNADO IT-ECR http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6495-2.jpg http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/gallery/Images/galVel4928-6.jpg TORNADO IDS http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6534-2.jpg http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel4928-2.jpg EUROFIGHTER 2000 http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6510-2.jpg http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel5057-4.jpg F-16ADF http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel4918-2.jpg B.707 T/T http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel4911-2.jpg Br.1150 Atlantic http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel4930-2.jpg C-130H http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6572-2.jpg http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel4909-2.jpg C-130J http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel4709-2.jpg http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6528-2.jpg C-130J-30 http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/gallery/Images/galVel4708-2.jpg C-27J http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6591-2.jpg http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/gallery/Images/galvel4862-14.jpg G.222 http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6557-2.jpg http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel4914-2.jpg MB.339A http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6565-2.jpg http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel4939-2.jpg MB.339CD http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto7449-2.jpg P.166DL3 http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6580-2.jpg RQ-1A Predator http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/predator_g.jpg AB.212 http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto6588-2.jpg SH-3D/TS http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/CPA/Images/galVel5042-2.jpg GENIUS LOCI February 12th, 2005, 01:43 PM Italian Navy air forces http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/index.htm AV-8B "Plus" - HARRIER II http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/av8b_4.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/av8b_3.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/av8b_2.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/av8b_5.jpg BR 1150 - Atlantic Mk1 http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/atlantic_2.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/atlantic_1.jpg Agusta/Sikorsky SH-3D Sea King http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/sh3d_1.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/sh3d_2.jpg Agusta-Bell AB 212 ASW http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/ab212_1.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/ab212_3.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/ab212_2.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/ab212_4.jpg NH 90 http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/nh90_1.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/nh90_3.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/nh90_2.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/nh90_4.jpg EHI(Agusta/Westland) EH-101 (ASW/ASUW) http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/eh101_1.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/eh101_3.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/eh101_2.jpg http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/eh101_4.jpg Matthieu February 12th, 2005, 01:51 PM Is this the good section for this? Anyway. Mirage F1:. http://cargolade.free.fr/miragef1cr1.jpg http://funix.chez.tiscali.fr/aviation/images/francais/mirageF1CR_arriere.jpg http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2949/mirage-f1.jpg Sepecat Jaguar: http://aircraft.euweb.cz/Riat%202002/22.jpg http://www.military.cz/international/air/jaguar/images/jaguar_5.jpg Mirage III: http://www.fightersquadron17.ch/Pictures/Flugzeuge/Mirage%20III%20S.jpg http://www.kennet21.com/bluechips/images/France/Mirage%20III%20E%20France.jpg Mirage IV: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aeromil-yf/MIRAGE%20IV%20CD%20ERS%20decolle.jpg http://aircraft.euweb.cz/Ciaf%202002/foto26.jpg Mirage 2000: http://www.zap16.com/images/lm02_eric_j_mirage_2000n_53.jpg http://carpatre.free.fr/2000d250.jpg http://www.airventure.de/riat2002/Mirage%202000%20.jpg http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/francuzke/mirage-2000/mirage-2000-02.jpg Super Etendard: http://www.f4aviation.co.uk/airshow00/volkel/etendard.JPG http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/super-etendard-forcef1.jpg http://www.tayyareci.com/digerucaklar/fransa/postww2/etendard.jpg Rafale: http://archive.cs.uu.nl/pub/AIRCRAFT-IMAGES/Rafale.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~propilot/pictures/Rafale.jpg http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/francuzke/rafale/rafale-01.jpg Þróndeimr February 12th, 2005, 01:53 PM The Norwegian air force consist of 57 F16 combatplanes, 6 NASAMS batteries, 12 Sea King helicopters, 6 P-3 Orion supervisory planes, 6 Hercules transport airplanes, 18 Bell Helicopters and 3 DA-20 planes. From 2008 we might but several European Eurofighter Typhoons and F-35 Joint Strike Fighters. http://www.sci.fi/~fta/norway13.JPG Norwegian F 16s http://www.sci.fi/~fta/norway4l.jpg Norwegian F 16s http://www.sci.fi/~fta/norway9l.jpg Norwegian F 16s http://www.sci.fi/~fta/norway1.JPG Norwegian F 16s http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/usa/lockheed_martin/p-3/p3cnsm.jpg P-3 Orion supervisory planes www.aeronautics.ru/ img003/bell-412-norway-01.jpg Norwegian Bell Helicopter GENIUS LOCI February 12th, 2005, 02:03 PM Italian Army (light) air forces http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/equipaggiamenti/velivoli.asp Dornier Do 228 http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/equipaggiamenti/img_equip/img_schede_velivoli/do228.JPG A 109 A http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/equipaggiamenti/img_equip/img_schede_velivoli/A-109.jpg AB 206 http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/equipaggiamenti/img_equip/img_schede_velivoli/ab206.jpg AB 212 http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/equipaggiamenti/img_equip/img_schede_velivoli/ab212.JPG AB 412 http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/equipaggiamenti/img_equip/img_schede_velivoli/scheda30.JPG CH 47 C "Chinook" http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/equipaggiamenti/img_equip/img_schede_velivoli/ch47.JPG A 129 "Mangusta" http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/equipaggiamenti/img_equip/img_schede_velivoli/A129.JPG ANDY*krk February 12th, 2005, 10:27 PM Polish AIR FORCE Mig 29 http://www.wlop.mil.pl/galeria/mig29/Mig29.jpg http://www.wlop.mil.pl/galeria/mig29/Mig29_11.jpg Su-22 http://www.wlop.mil.pl/galeria/su22/logistyka-1.jpg http://www.wlop.mil.pl/galeria/su22/Su22_5.jpg An 26 http://www.wlop.mil.pl/galeria/an26/an26.jpg M28B http://www.wlop.mil.pl/galeria/m28/M28_nowe9.jpg CASA C295 http://www.altair.com.pl/files/sp1003_casa02.jpg http://www.altair.com.pl/files/sp1003_casa01.jpg PZL W-3WA Sokół http://www.wlop.mil.pl/galeria/pzlw3/W3.jpg Mi-8 http://www.wlop.mil.pl/galeria/mi8/mi8.jpg Mi-2 http://www.wlop.mil.pl/galeria/mi2/Mi2.jpg Mi-24 http://www.trylit.isp.pl/mi24w/Images/radom02-517.jpg In 2006 Poland will have new 49 F-16 Chibcha2k February 13th, 2005, 03:29 AM Fuerza Aerea Colombiana ( Colombian Air Force) Tucano T-27 http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/entrenamiento_archivos/t27.gif A-37 Dragonfly ( shame we still fly these things ) http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/combate_archivos/a37-5.gifhttp://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/images/a-37_jpg.jpg http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/images/foto13_jpg.jpg OV-10 Bronco ( exellent Counter Insurgence plane) http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/combate_archivos/ov10.jpeg http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/images/foto11_jpg.jpg http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/images/foto2_jpg.jpg Mirage V http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/combate_archivos/mirage50.gif http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/images/foto20_jpg.jpg K-Fir C2 [IMG]http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/combate_archivos/kfir-1.gif UH-1 Huey http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/images/b-212_jpg.jpg C-130 Hercules http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/images/c-130_jpg.jpg http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/images/foto12_jpg.jpg UH-60 Black Hawk ( we have the most powerful and numerous Helicopter fleet in Latin America, as they are very useful for our war) http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/images/foto1_jpg.jpg http://www.fac.mil.co/pag_interiores/galerias/parque/images/foto10_jpg.jpg 707 Tanker http://www.forfac.gov.co/admin/files/Img_Not_114112003191932.gif http://www.fav-club.com/images/kfiromar.jpg Hebrewtext February 13th, 2005, 04:34 AM I S R A E L ---- A I R -- F O R C E ISRAEL AIR FORCE THREAD (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=59772&page=4&pp=20) Sen February 13th, 2005, 05:55 PM PLAAF (Chinese Air Force) Jian 7 E/G Interceptor http://www.picturehost.co.uk/free.one/jian7e_4lg.jpg Jian 8 B/D Interceptor http://www.picturehost.co.uk/free.one/j8b_1.jpg Su 27 SK/ Jian 11 Air Superiority Fighter http://www.picturehost.co.uk/free.one/su27_6.jpg http://img203.exs.cx/img203/8216/su2711xx.jpg Su 30 MKK/MK2 Multirole Fighter Attacker http://img145.exs.cx/img145/9598/su3014jq.jpg Jian 10 Multirole Fighter http://img145.exs.cx/img145/8143/jian108lg7it.jpg http://img145.exs.cx/img145/964/jian107lg0ll.jpg http://img145.exs.cx/img145/6418/jian106lg8nv.jpg http://img145.exs.cx/img145/1931/jian105lg1gz.jpg http://img145.exs.cx/img145/4454/jian104lg0jn.jpg AWACS: (Modified A-50 I) http://img102.exs.cx/img102/2654/awacs16ju.jpg Desven February 13th, 2005, 06:35 PM Deutsche Luftwaffe (german airforce) Eurofighter(number:180) http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/A53B24480A9EED6CC1256F9300547DC3/$FILE/20040428_105_G.jpg http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/A53B24480A9EED6CC1256F9300547DC3/$FILE/20040428_103_G.jpg http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/A53B24480A9EED6CC1256F9300547DC3/$FILE/20040428_109_G.jpg http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/A53B24480A9EED6CC1256F9300547DC3/$FILE/20040428_101_G.jpg Tornado(number:356) http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/2496F9F617B3DC7CC1256F660041F391/$FILE/tornado-2.jpg http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/2496F9F617B3DC7CC1256F660041F391/$FILE/tornado-1.jpg http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/2496F9F617B3DC7CC1256F660041F391/$FILE/tornado-3.jpg F-4F Phantom II(number:131) http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/7ED5915C54ABAEBAC1256CE80031E62B/$FILE/f4f-1.jpg http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/7ED5915C54ABAEBAC1256CE80031E62B/$FILE/f4f-2.jpg http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/7ED5915C54ABAEBAC1256CE80031E62B/$FILE/f4f-3.jpg Bell UH-1D http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/A423A9AC85CFDF3CC1256CE80053D0CF/$FILE/uh1d-2.jpg Cougar-AS 532 http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/B14D98FEE90DCD92C1256CE80054CF88/$FILE/cougar1.jpg http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/B14D98FEE90DCD92C1256CE80054CF88/$FILE/cougar3.jpg NH-90 http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwContentByKey/C91E4DC8A9CCB64EC1256CE80055EF31/$File/nh90_200.jpg Airbus A310 http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/DocName/lh_wa_airbus/$FILE/A310_G.jpg Airbus A310 MRT http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/1E96E31EB7B65D4DC1256D1D002BD7FD/$FILE/a310-3.jpg Airbus A 310-VIP http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/6AF014438CC76749C1256DA300253945/$FILE/airbus1_g.jpg Canadair CL-601(number:6) http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/0B36324795D37FFDC1256F97003B6DD8/$FILE/challenger1_G.jpg C-160 D Transall(number:84) http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/vwcontentByKey/2371B678ADAD2230C1256D24005388BB/$FILE/tr-2.jpg Airbus A 400M http://www.luftwaffe.de/C1256C770036BB94/DocName/lh_wa_a400m/$FILE/a400m_s.jpg Swede February 13th, 2005, 07:11 PM Swedish Airforce JAS 39 Gripen (the Griphon) http://www.f7.mil.se/images/local/gripen_02.jpg http://www.f7.mil.se/images/local/gripen_07.jpg http://www.f7.mil.se/images/local/gripen_11.jpg http://www.f7.mil.se/images/local/gripen_12.jpg We got about 200 of these, not bad for a country of 9M :) Most likelly the last of the Swedish warplanes - in the future we'll join the pan-European projects. We've also got a few C-130s and a AWACS-type plane based on a SAAB-plane with an Ericsson radar up top. btw - the Sweish airforce has only done real combat missions once - over Katanga in Congo (Kinshasa). centralized pandemonium February 13th, 2005, 07:44 PM India's Air Force. Sukhoi 30 http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Su-30/Su-30a1.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Su-30/Su-30y.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Su-30/Su-30c1.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Su-30/Su-30k.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Su-30/Su-30c.jpg SEPECAT Jaguar. http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Jaguar/Jaguar1.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Jaguar/Jaguar2.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Jaguar/Jaguar3.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Jaguar/Jaguar27.jpg Mirage 2000. http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mirage/Mirage24.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mirage/Mirage3.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mirage/Mirage4.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mirage/Mirage7.jpg Mig-29 http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mig-29/MiG-29n.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mig-29/MiG-29x.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mig-29/MiG-29q.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mig-29/MiG-29u.jpg LCA(Light Combat Aricraft). India's homegrown fighter. It will enter service in a few years. It is the world's smallest multi role supersonic fighter. http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/LCA/Tejas21.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/LCA/Tejas25.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/LCA/Tejas28.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/LCA/Tejas27.jpg It also has some older aircrafts like Mig-27, Mig-23 and Mig-21. centralized pandemonium February 13th, 2005, 07:57 PM Some of India's transport airplanes. IL-78 http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Misc/Il-78s-1.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Misc/AAR01-1024.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Misc/RK3452f.jpg IL-76 http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Transports/K2665.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Transports/Il-78e.jpg Dronier DO-228. http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Transports/Do228c.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Transports/Do228d.jpg Boeing 737. http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Transports/737d.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Transports/737a.jpg Helicopters. Mil MI 25/35 http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Helicopters/Mi-25d.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Helicopters/Mi-25a.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Helicopters/Mi-25c.jpg HAL Dhruv. http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Helicopters/ALH3.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Helicopters/ALH6.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Helicopters/Dhruv03.jpg Mil 17 http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Helicopters/Z3357.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Helicopters/Mi-17d.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Helicopters/Mi-17a.jpg http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Helicopters/Mi-17b.jpg drwho February 13th, 2005, 08:10 PM Swedish Air Force JAS-39 Gripen (SAAB) http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/img/saab/gripen/gall99/gripen_g53-57.jpg J-37 Viggen (SAAB) http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/img/ljungbyhed96/ja37_viggen.jpg J-35 Draken http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/img/saab/saabj35j.jpg willo February 13th, 2005, 11:33 PM i don´t know all the names so guess for yourself spanish air force (ejercito del aire) eurofighter http://www.flygplan.info/images/eurofighter_5.jpg http://www.airpower.at/flugzeuge/eurofighter/da6-typhoon_october.jpg http://www.airpower.at/flugzeuge/eurofighter/ipa4_GL-040042-7.jpg f18 http://www.segurancaedefesa.com/F-18_Ejercito%20del%20Aire.jpg http://www.el-mundo.es/internacional/kosovo/armamento/imagenes/f18.jpg http://www.fach-extraoficial.com/fotos/f5/f18_vfa131s.jpg f4 http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/eda_f-4cs_001.jpg mirage http://www.lacerca.com/images/Avion-5.jpg av-8b plus harrierII http://pobladores.lycos.es/data/pobladores.com/xa/mt/xamti/channels/aviones_historicos/images/3013737ser.jpg http://www.revistanaval.com/imaxes/9esc_04.jpg http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/2776/harr2.jpg cougar http://www.belt.es/noticias/2003/agosto/29/cougar.jpg chinook http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTypen/Fotos/boeingmi/CH-47FE.JPG tiger http://www.belt.es/noticias/2003/septiembre/10/Tigre.jpg other ones i don't know the names http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nick.challoner/aviation/pix/64-37.jpg http://es.geocities.com/heraldicaaerea/111.gif http://www.revistanaval.com/imaxes/tear_2002_10.jpg http://www.wsosp.deblin.pl/1osl/wydarzenia/As98/989.jpg http://mypage.bluewin.ch/aviationworld/febe/IBT-Bildergalerie/Jakob-001_Casa.jpg http://servicios.diariovasco.com/pg040801/actualidad/mundo/media/200408/01/newyork--200x160.jpg http://www.personal.able.es/easensio/index.jpg http://www.revistanaval.com/imaxes/perejil_fas_04.jpg Hebrewtext February 14th, 2005, 09:25 PM pictures.... words..... and more shiny pictures.... the only Airforce with proven abilities is the Israeli one. do you know what those little circles mean? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/toreno/army/15869.jpg ahsm February 14th, 2005, 09:45 PM the only Airforce with proven abilities is the Israeli one. Yeah, ok. Israel isn't the best in the world, hate to break it to you, but you Jews need to realize that. German airforce is just as good if not better, and there are plenty other countries. Azazel February 15th, 2005, 02:43 AM Israel's airforce is the one with the most practice, except, perhaps, the american one. nothing to be happy about, since it means that we have had the most wars... What's the problem, ahsm? djm19 February 15th, 2005, 07:26 AM U.S. Airforce http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/modern_flight/mf62%20copy.jpg http://home.iae.nl/users/wbergmns/big/f22.jpg http://home.iae.nl/users/wbergmns/big/jsf_x35.jpg http://home.iae.nl/users/wbergmns/big/f18e.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~jask16/airforce/F15.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~jask16/airforce/B1.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~jask16/airforce/F22.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~jask16/airforce/F20.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~jask16/stealth/SR71.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~jask16/airforce/F100.jpg http://www.bugimus.com/stealth/newpics/bombers_b2_0004.jpg GENIUS LOCI February 15th, 2005, 12:25 PM ^ A very little part of USAF :) Fir3blaze February 15th, 2005, 07:22 PM http://img238.exs.cx/img238/1671/halim016wk.jpg http://img238.exs.cx/img238/9004/halim027dr.jpg http://img238.exs.cx/img238/8454/halim046yy.jpg http://img238.exs.cx/img238/4826/f162vn.jpg http://img238.exs.cx/img238/7010/foto7b7cg.jpg Sen February 15th, 2005, 07:28 PM pictures.... words..... and more shiny pictures.... the only Airforce with proven abilities is the Israeli one. do you know what those little circles mean? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/toreno/army/15869.jpg the number of planes they shot down? Hebrewtext February 25th, 2005, 07:19 PM yes !!! the number of enemy planes they shot down, air to air combat. NerveAgent February 26th, 2005, 09:35 PM Think they would have to make bigger jets if the US and Uk put them on theres :P djm19 February 27th, 2005, 12:17 AM ^ A very little part of USAF :) yes a very small sampling centralized pandemonium February 27th, 2005, 12:21 AM More Indian Air Force. http://img216.exs.cx/img216/1248/jaguar259bd.jpg http://img216.exs.cx/img216/5179/su30c3gf.jpg http://img102.exs.cx/img102/7475/tejas276or.jpg centralized pandemonium February 27th, 2005, 12:22 AM Which is the least technologically advanced aircraft the US has. sbarn February 27th, 2005, 12:51 AM Which is the least technologically advanced aircraft the US has. This one? http://www.amigamccc.org/files/files0312/Aircraft_F117-Nighthawk.jpg Or this one? http://www.aereimilitari.altervista.org/immagini/Immagini%20aerei/B-2%20Spirit/B-2_21b.jpg http://www.mustbeart.com/photo/yuma2002/b2/CRW_2876.jpg Maybe this one? http://www.usaf.com/yf23/airto2.jpeg I don't know but the U.S. Air Force has some ridiculous planes... Pavlo February 27th, 2005, 02:32 AM Ukraine: See link:http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?&airlinesearch=Ukraine%20-%20Air%20Force&nr_of_rows=169&first_this_page=0&page_limit=15&sort_order=photo_id+DESC&nr_pages=12 I don't feel like posting the pics it will take way too long. coldstar February 27th, 2005, 03:29 AM JAPANESE AIR SELF DEFENSE FORCE AWACS E-767 http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/e767/e76702b.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/e767/e767_1a.jpg E-2C http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/e2c/0061b.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/e2c/e2c_4a.jpg F-15J http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/kinentosou/f15/komatsu_306sq.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/kinentosou/f15/a/306a.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/kinentosou/f15/a/303b.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/f15/0023b.jpg Mitsubishi F-2 http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/kinentosou/f1_f2/matsushima.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/f2/f2063b.gif http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/f2/f2_9a.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/f2/f2_6a.jpg Mitsubishi F-1 http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/f1/0001b.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/f1/f1_8a.jpg Kawasaki T-4 http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/blue/aka1/ak10b.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/blue/tok1/tk06b.jpg F-4 EJ http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/f4/0036b.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/f4/0039b.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/f4/f4_6a.jpg Kawasaki C-1 http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/c1/c101b.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/c1/0080b.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/c1/c-1_1a.jpg C-130 http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/c130/0084b.jpg http://www.jda.go.jp/jasdf/gallery/c130/c130_2a.jpg maryland4ever February 28th, 2005, 06:21 AM US Air Force: Stealth Bomber, nuff said. zulu69 March 1st, 2005, 03:51 PM US Air Force: Stealth Bomber, nuff said. Many ppl dont know this but Russia also has stealth fighters and bombers. It is rumoured that they are superior to the US ones as well.It is interesting but they use a electro - magnetic plasma field around the aircraft to make it stealth. here is an article about it- here (http://robocat.users.btopenworld.com/su37.htm) and the old plans for the bomber here (http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws002/awst039.htm) My favourite plane is the F14 tomcat and i also like the F-15 eagle. My fav airforce is the US and also the Russian. I was going to actually become a fighter pilot but i didn't have 20/20 vision :( http://www.usaf.com/yf23/airto2.jpeg Btw this plane doesnt exist anymore. It was the YF-23 'black widow' and it lost to the YF- 22 (now of course F-22 as the y denotes a prototype). Great plane have some advantages too. I think that the new SCRAM technology for engines will be the way for the future. mic of Orion March 1st, 2005, 11:35 PM I think in past 5 years only Russian, US, Israeli and UK air forces had to fire in anger, it gives you an indication how much we think of wars. And to be frank this are not Israeli fighters, this are American aircraft, if US wasn't so generous (I just don’t ce reason why would that be) in giving Israel each year 2bnUS$ worth of hardware for free + surpluses) , I think Israel would have never be able to afford aircraft it has now in its airforce, it is mediocre country with stagnant economy high unemployment and no progress in peace with Palestinians. Lets ce how long current ceasefire holds and hope we ce peace in middle east ,I say Israeli's wouldn't need such air force, don’t you think... Being Brit I am ashamed of my country going to war for oil and feel I have nothing to bragg about killin inocent ppl in Iraq or anywhere else for that matter, if we where attacked fine but we havent, so whats the use... Sorry for being political no offense to anyone.... Hebrewtext March 3rd, 2005, 09:02 PM Sep. 22, 2003 | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Israeli air force pilots handily beat their German counterparts in "dogfights" in the first ever air force exercise between the two countries, an Israeli military official said Monday. The Israeli F-15 pilots, aided by special technology that Israel does not share or sell to other countries, beat the Germans by more than 100 "hits," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. In the past, Israel has beaten American air force pilots by similar margins, the officials added. Israel purchases U.S. warplanes without battle technology, installing its own locally made systems into the aircraft. The exercise was conducted over the past two weeks in the skies of Sardinia in Italy. Boeing Jimbo March 3rd, 2005, 09:18 PM This one? http://www.amigamccc.org/files/files0312/Aircraft_F117-Nighthawk.jpg Or this one? http://www.aereimilitari.altervista.org/immagini/Immagini%20aerei/B-2%20Spirit/B-2_21b.jpg http://www.mustbeart.com/photo/yuma2002/b2/CRW_2876.jpg Maybe this one? http://www.usaf.com/yf23/airto2.jpeg I don't know but the U.S. Air Force has some ridiculous planes... no, it is the JSF Joint Strike Fighter (lockheed) but the last made US Bomber is the B2 Stealth. CharlieP March 3rd, 2005, 09:45 PM Well, that's quite depressing. One of the pilots in one of the pictures was on the same University Air Squadron as me, flying Bulldogs - obviously he made it to the front line whereas I clearly didn't... :( Englishman March 5th, 2005, 06:02 PM yes but you have over a thousand posts - and how many does he have? You so own him ;) Ozcan March 5th, 2005, 06:10 PM edit Nemo01 March 5th, 2005, 06:54 PM The Dutch natural flying army. You've got a big chance of a direct hit when they're flying over you :mad2: http://gemeentearchief.amsterdam.nl/schatkamer/300_schatten/dieren/duiven_op_de_dam/.3f6a44337fd3f0f1.jpeg http://www.basautowas.nl/images/vogelpoep.jpg kyenan March 5th, 2005, 09:12 PM The Dutch natural flying army. You've got a big chance of a direct hit when they're flying over you :mad2: http://gemeentearchief.amsterdam.nl/schatkamer/300_schatten/dieren/duiven_op_de_dam/.3f6a44337fd3f0f1.jpeg http://www.basautowas.nl/images/vogelpoep.jpg OMG! The most impressive air force I've ever seen!!! :eek2: Jerv March 5th, 2005, 09:52 PM I think in past 5 years only Russian, US, Israeli and UK air forces had to fire in anger, it gives you an indication of how much we think of wars. And to be frank this are not Israeli fighters, this are American aircraft, if US wasn't so generous (I just don’t ce reason why would the be) in giving Israel each year 2bnUS$ worth of hardware for free, and also than giving them there surpluses and so on, I would think Israel would ewer be able to afford the aircraft it has now, it is mediocre country with stagnant economy high unemployment and no progress in peace with Palestinians, lets ce how long current ceasefire holds lets hope we ce peace in middle east I say than Israeli wouldn't need such air force, don’t you think... And I like to say think of peace ppl we should talk infrastructure and economy, growth architecture not wars, just a thought… Being Brit I am ashamed of my country going to war for oil and feel I have nothing to be bragg about killin inocent ppl in Iraq or anywhere else for that matter, if we where attacked fine but we havent, so whats the use... Sorry for being political no offense to anyone.... Please don't tell people you are a brit unless you start to use the english language as a means of communication, not confusion. It gives us a bad name. War for oil? The two tax paying british oil giants Shell and BP have just announced record profits. They have no oil fields in Iraq or previous contracts with Saddam Hussain. You'll find that the adamant anti-war brigade of France, Russia and China do however have such interests, so for them, it was about oil. For us it was about international security and liberation from tyrany. The UK forces are getting the VSTOL version of the JSF to replace the pioneering and amazing Harrier (A british plane that can take off and land like a helicopter. The only plane ever imported by US forces. 28 of them were sent to the falklands to defeat the entire Argentinian airforce of over 200 aircraft. No losses against 27 kills in combat with the Argentinian Airforce who nicknamed it 'Black Death') centralized pandemonium March 5th, 2005, 09:55 PM OMG! The most impressive air force I've ever seen!!! :eek2: Indeed, no airforce could give a shit to this. tonymathew March 5th, 2005, 10:06 PM lol shit! Ozcan March 6th, 2005, 03:53 PM TURKISH AIRFORCE http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/f16csinfl.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wendywendy/airforce/airforce-Images/11.jpg http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album14/aat.sized.jpg http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album14/aav.sized.jpg http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/F-16-011.jpg http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album14/aaw.sized.jpg http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album14/aay.jpg http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album14/aba.sized.jpg http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album14/abd.sized.jpg http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album14/abf.sized.jpg http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album14/aab.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/4/thk/gfx/thk_f4.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/4/thk/gfx/phantoms-voor.jpg http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/cougar-1B.jpg http://www.tai.com.tr/images/galeri/m_S70_WEB.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/4/thk/gfx/cougar-voor.jpg Turkish made unmanned aerial vehicles http://www.tai.com.tr/images/galeri/m_KEKLIK_WEB.jpg http://www.tai.com.tr/images/galeri/m_BAYKUS_WEB.jpg http://www.tai.com.tr/images/galeri/m_MARTI_WEB.jpg http://www.tai.com.tr/images/galeri/m_PELIKAN_WEB.jpg maryland4ever March 6th, 2005, 06:33 PM Many ppl dont know this but Russia also has stealth fighters and bombers. It is rumoured that they are superior to the US ones as well.It is interesting but they use a electro - magnetic plasma field around the aircraft to make it stealth. here is an article about it- here (http://robocat.users.btopenworld.com/su37.htm) and the old plans for the bomber here (http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws002/awst039.htm) My favourite plane is the F14 tomcat and i also like the F-15 eagle. My fav airforce is the US and also the Russian. I was going to actually become a fighter pilot but i didn't have 20/20 vision :( http://www.usaf.com/yf23/airto2.jpeg Btw this plane doesnt exist anymore. It was the YF-23 'black widow' and it lost to the YF- 22 (now of course F-22 as the y denotes a prototype). Great plane have some advantages too. I think that the new SCRAM technology for engines will be the way for the future. keyword rumors? truth is both of us have no clue. lol. zulu69 March 7th, 2005, 11:31 AM ^ well acutally its more like an educated guess. It only because the tech the USA use determines the shape of the plane, hence limiting its maneuverability. The Russian rather doesnt rely on the shape at all, rather the plasma field is used. As you can see with the su-37 its shape would make it highly maneuverable. It doesnt need to be flat or at certain angles. Anyway its great stuff for fighter plane fans like me :) mic of Orion March 8th, 2005, 04:41 PM Please don't tell people you are a brit unless you start to use the english language as a means of communication, not confusion. It gives us a bad name. War for oil? The two tax paying british oil giants Shell and BP have just announced record profits. They have no oil fields in Iraq or previous contracts with Saddam Hussain. You'll find that the adamant anti-war brigade of France, Russia and China do however have such interests, so for them, it was about oil. For us it was about international security and liberation from tyrany. The UK forces are getting the VSTOL version of the JSF to replace the pioneering and amazing Harrier (A british plane that can take off and land like a helicopter. The only plane ever imported by US forces. 28 of them were sent to the falklands to defeat the entire Argentinian airforce of over 200 aircraft. No losses against 27 kills in combat with the Argentinian Airforce who nicknamed it 'Black Death') yhea right, :weirdo: Ringil March 8th, 2005, 09:14 PM Swedish air force, UAV http://www.saabaerosystems.com/images/18.1ab11b0ff453ffcd87fff139/sharc.jpg The SHARC technology demonstrator is developed in cooperation with the Swedish Defense Administration. The first flight took place in February 2002, and in September 2003 a 20 km autonomous flight was performed. Autonomous take off and landing capabilities are planned for 2004 and, within five years, the demonstrator will be fully certified to accomplish operations on its own. http://kai.iks-jena.de/livejournal/bilder/08-07-04-saab_filur1.jpg FILUR http://www.saabaerosystems.com/images/18.1ab11b0ff453ffcd87fff138/filur.jpg http://products.saab.se/PDBWeb/GetFile.aspx?pathtype=ProductFiles&filetype=Images&id=5823 FILUR is a low-signature UAV demonstrator developed by Saab for the Swedish Defense Administration. The main objective of this technology program is to develop stealth capabilities and evaluate what is feasible today in the area of radar signatures. The first autonomous flight is scheduled for 2005(this year) http://www.saabaerosystems.com/images/18.1ab11b0ff453ffcd87fff178/male.jpg In 2004 Saab also initiated development of a Medium Altitude Long Endurance UAV (MALE). The MALE is designed for combat, surveillance and reconnaissance operations covering larger areas and high altitudes. MALE can be used for long-range surveillance, electronic warfare or combat missions, and for linking communications, traffic surveillance or other public services. http://www.saabaerosystems.com/images/18.1ab11b0ff453ffcd87fff140/ucav.jpg Neuron In cooperation with French-based Dassault, Saab is developing a UAV with combat capabilities. The Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle (UCAV) is initially intended for evaluation of future cutting-edge technology, for example: advanced avionics, autonomy, stealth technology, weapons, and adaptation to network-based defense systems. Saab's main focus is on areas like avionics systems, airworthiness, stealth, autonomy and multi-payload capabilities. First flight is planned to 2009. "UCAV" stands for Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle. http://products.saab.se/PDBWeb/GetFile.aspx?pathtype=ProductFiles&filetype=Images&id=5756 http://www.saabaerosystems.com/images/18.1ab11b0ff453ffcd87fff225/tuav.jpg TUAV In 2004 Saab initiated development of a Tactical Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (TUAV). The TUAV will be an affordable and cost-effective combat and reconnaissance aircraft certified for controlled airspaces. The TUAV can be used for short-range surveillance, electronic warfare or combat missions, and for linking communications, traffic surveillance or other public services. Jerv March 8th, 2005, 09:20 PM yhea right, :weirdo: Check it out then you thick cunt. Or smoke pot and pretend you know it all. Either way I don't care. luv2bebrown March 8th, 2005, 09:39 PM For us it was about international security and liberation from tyrany. yeah I mean saddam hussein was just about to press the button and lauch his massive arsenal of millions ICBMs armed with sarin when the american troops found him in his hole/top secret battle command station. lucky for the UK... the UK was his primary target. :cheers: Fir3blaze March 9th, 2005, 08:31 PM Check it out then you thick cunt. Or smoke pot and pretend you know it all. Either way I don't care. Hey, isn't that a rather hostile reply? He just said "yeah, right". Jerv March 9th, 2005, 10:56 PM Hey, isn't that a rather hostile reply? He just said "yeah, right". It was the :weirdo: sign that he included, suggesting I was talking shit. If he'd care to check his facts before questioning mine then there would be no need for such a response. I mean, if I called you a weirdo for saying the earth was not flat, then you would want to call me a thick cunt for sure. Jerv March 9th, 2005, 11:07 PM yeah I mean saddam hussein was just about to press the button and lauch his massive arsenal of millions ICBMs armed with sarin when the american troops found him in his hole/top secret battle command station. lucky for the UK... the UK was his primary target. :cheers: When there are military dictatorships in charge around the world, then the world is less secure (=> INTERNATIONAL SECURITY) Saddam Hussain Murdered thousands of his own people and was the cause of crippling sanctions on his country whilst he lived in palaces. He would have developed ICBMs and Nuclear Capability had he been given the freedom to do so (=> TYRANNY) I suggest you go and visit the Kurds who were gased in Halabja and think about your comfortable life in Dubai. You'd have been far worse off if 'we' hadn't got involved in the first place (where after Kuwait?) Now thank us because you'll sure as hell be asking for our help if anything like that ever happened closer to home. Fir3blaze March 10th, 2005, 08:11 AM It was the :weirdo: sign that he included, suggesting I was talking shit. If he'd care to check his facts before questioning mine then there would be no need for such a response. I mean, if I called you a weirdo for saying the earth was not flat, then you would want to call me a thick cunt for sure. No offense dude, just personal opinion. Jerv March 11th, 2005, 02:05 AM Non taken. You were right. Down Under March 20th, 2005, 05:39 PM This is australian defence force, sorry but this is saved on my computer as australian defence force post links, i cant be bothered seperating only the planes out :) http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/SPECIALS/2002/iraq/deployment.map/images/australian.hornet.jpg http://www.hkpro.com/action4mp5sd.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/3/3a/Raaf.hornet.f18.750pix.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/5/raaf/gfx/photos/f18-voor.jpg http://www.thelandroverchronicle.com/new_pa1202.gif http://www.c7f.navy.mil/tt01/photos10/TT0103402m.jpg http://www.bigirishgit.com/Gallery/Choppers/choppers/images/redhawk.jpg http://www.bigirishgit.com/Gallery/Choppers/choppers/images/tiger2.jpg http://defence-data.com/avalon/battlehawk.jpg http://www.mcherron.com/photos/aircraft/Avalon_Airshow_2003/Blackhawk_After_Towing.jpg http://www.mcherron.com/photos/aircraft/Avalon_Airshow_2003/Blackhawk_Parked_Close.jpg http://www.mcherron.com/photos/aircraft/Avalon_Airshow_2003/Seahawk_Being_Towed_001.jpg http://www.mcherron.com/photos/aircraft/Avalon_Airshow_2003/Eurocopter_Tiger_Mockup.jpg http://www.bigirishgit.com/Gallery/Choppers/choppers/images/apacheb.jpg http://www.legendshobbies.com/bbi/bbi21133/bbi-21133.jpg http://www.airpower.at/news03/1220_hussein/al_asad_ab_australian_sas.jpg http://www.specialoperations.com/Foreign/Australia/SASR/TroopsDeployed.jpg http://www.bigirishgit.com/Gallery/Choppers/choppers/images/huey.jpg http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/history/aircraft/australian/T015002_a.jpg http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/history/aircraft/australian/Dsc00231_a.jpg http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/history/aircraft/australian/Australian_C-17_700x456_a.jpg http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200311/r11774_28062.jpg http://www.sci.fi/~fta/raaf-f-111.jpg http://www.sci.fi/~fta/Raaf57l.jpg http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/coalition/deployment/australian/raaf.refueling.jpg http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/737aewc/images/737AEWC_1.jpg http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chats/Images/t19.jpg http://forum.apan-info.net/Spring_02/jpeg_lg/A-9.jpg http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Jun2001/010507-M-1589G-001_screen.jpg http://www.cpf.navy.mil/rimpac2000/images/bellows2.jpg http://image04.webshots.com/4/5/32/45/114553245bKthfh_ph.jpg http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/raaff18.jpg http://www.eurocopter.com/publications/img_wsw//nhtigre.jpg http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/images/707raafsmudge_2.jpg http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20011024/photos/images/24photo06.jpg http://www.milavia.net/airforces/australia/raaf_pictorial/fa-18_raaf02.jpg http://www.milavia.net/airforces/australia/raaf_pictorial/f-111_raaf01.jpg http://www.milavia.net/airforces/australia/raaf_pictorial/f-111_raaf02.jpg http://www.milavia.net/airforces/australia/raaf_pictorial/fa-18_raaf03.jpg http://www.milavia.net/airforces/australia/raaf_pictorial/f-111_raaf05.jpg http://www.milavia.net/airforces/australia/raaf_pictorial/fa-18_raaf04.jpg http://www.milavia.net/airforces/australia/raaf_pictorial/hawk_raaf01.jpg http://www.milavia.net/airforces/australia/raaf_pictorial/c-130_raaf03.jpg http://www.milavia.net/airforces/australia/raaf_pictorial/dhc-4_raaf03.jpg TeLaVivi March 20th, 2005, 06:42 PM I like the Australian air force kangaroo symbol :) . Saigoneseguy March 20th, 2005, 06:42 PM Vietnamese air force (VNPAF) at a glance: Mig 21: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/nguyen_viet_linh/vietnamesemig21taxying.jpg http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/nguyen_viet_linh/mig21withdrogue.jpg http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/nguyen_viet_linh/taxying9oclock.jpg Su 22: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/lionking_hau/post-13-1069226974.jpg http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/lionking_hau/post-13-1070475101.jpg Su 27/30: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/lionking_hau/post-13-1069226619.jpg http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/lionking_hau/post-13-1070475512.jpg http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/lionking_hau/post-13-1070475318.jpg Ka-27-32: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/lionking_hau/post-13-1070476051.jpg http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/lionking_hau/post-13-1070476103.jpg UH 1 (marked as USAF) http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/lionking_hau/post-13-1069224078.jpg Mil Mi 26: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/lionking_hau/post-13-1069223264.jpg Mi 24,now in museum :nuts: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/fitter/mi24-02.jpg Bryza (will b delivered soon from Poland) http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/excounter/bryza.jpg An26 (sorry too big picture) :rofl: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/excounter/an26af.jpg Mi 8: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/excounter/mi%208.jpg L39: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/excounter/l39%20albatros.jpg F5E: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/excounter/f5.jpg Pham Tuan,first asian astronaut: http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/excounter/first%20asian%20astronaut.jpg Morane 500,first VNPAF aircraft (this shows in ARVN flag) http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/excounter/morane500.jpg jiggawhat? March 20th, 2005, 07:22 PM the sealth in the United states air force is so amazing jiggawhat? March 20th, 2005, 07:23 PM I really would like to see the stuff they hide from people. The technology and the planes that they got...im sure some of them are insane! centralized pandemonium May 10th, 2005, 11:02 PM Some more Indian Air Force. The indegenious ALH. http://www.protonriver.com/ae2005/batch1/ALH-NavalVariant.jpg http://www.protonriver.com/ae2005/batch3/Dhruv%20Civil%20(Ready%20To%20Hover).JPG The Mig-21's The indegenious LCA [IMG]http://www.protonriver.com/ae2005/batch1/LCA-PV2Cockpit.JPG Mirage 2000 http://www.protonriver.com/ae2005/batch1/Mirage-2000TH.JPG http://www.protonriver.com/ae2005/batch1/Mirage2000-IAF.JPG http://www.protonriver.com/ae2005/batch4/img050.jpg Flanker... http://www.protonriver.com/ae2005/batch4/img066.jpg All pics courtesy of protonriver.com babino May 11th, 2005, 06:52 PM Cazabombarderos McDonnell Douglas A-4AR Fightinghawk http://img96.echo.cx/img96/8899/fightinghawk4js.gif http://img96.echo.cx/img96/7636/fotoa40xt.png http://img208.echo.cx/img208/5978/comb106400we.jpg http://img208.echo.cx/img208/3585/a4arapg4vz.jpg http://img96.echo.cx/img96/2235/arfaaa4arbrevistaalas5co.jpg IAI Finger http://img96.echo.cx/img96/4711/dagger4xg.gif http://img208.echo.cx/img208/3032/comb128007rs.jpg http://img96.echo.cx/img96/6500/fotofinger8iq.png AMD M-5P Mara http://img96.echo.cx/img96/7075/fotomara7kc.png Interceptores AMD M-IIIEA / DA Mirage http://img96.echo.cx/img96/9586/fotomirage37rx.png AMD M-IIIEA / DA Mirage - biplaza - http://img96.echo.cx/img96/4906/fotomiragebiplaza1dk.png http://img208.echo.cx/img208/3032/comb128007rs.jpg http://img208.echo.cx/img208/2537/salitre60uv.jpg Ataque Pucará http://img96.echo.cx/img96/9321/fotopucara0la.png http://img208.echo.cx/img208/4282/pucara6uu.jpg http://img96.echo.cx/img96/7885/pucara1b3nt.jpg Entrenamiento Pampa http://img208.echo.cx/img208/3804/entr16407vj.jpg http://img208.echo.cx/img208/7567/entr66402te.jpg Nemo May 23rd, 2005, 02:54 PM De Koninklijke Luchtmacht.Royal Netherlands Air Force. http://www.klimopschool.net/Klimopplaza/399%20Oorlog%20en%20vrede%20(Krijgsmacht)/Algemene/Foto's/Luchtmacht.png Helicopters Type Nbr. AH-64A Apache 12 AH-64D 30 CH-47D Chinook 13 AS532U2 Cougar 17 BO105C liaison 26 BO105DB utility 1 SA316 Alouette III 50 AB-412SP Rescue 3 Fighters Lockheed Martin F16 >> 137 Transport Lockheed C-130 Hercules 2 McDonnel Douglas KDC-10 2 Gulfstream IV 1 Fokker-60 Utility transport 4 Fokker-50 Passenger 1 Pilatus PC-7 Turbo Trainer 13 Air Defense The Dutch airforce is also responsible for the deployment of the Ground Based Air Defense systems, including: MIM-104 Patriot MIM-23 Hawk, which are all gradually being replaced with Patriots FIM-92 Stinger Airbases and Squadrons Large Main Operating Bases (MOB's) Airbase Leeuwarden -322nd Sqn. F-16 Reaction Force Squadron -323rd Sqn. F-16 Tactes Squadron -303rd Sqn. Augusta Bell AB 412 Search and Rescue Helicopter Squadron -630th Sqn. Operational Ground Squadron -920th Sqn. Maintenance Support Squadron -921st Sqn. Logistic Support Squadron -922nd Sqn. Miscellaneous Support Squadron Airbase Volkel -311th Sqn. F-16 Squadron -312th Sqn. F-16 Squadron -306th Sqn. F-16 Training Squadron -900th Sqn. F-16 Maintenance Support Squadron -901st Sqn. Transport and Storage Support Squadron -902nd Sqn. Miscellaneous Support Squadron -640th Sqn. Airbase Security Support Squadron -601st Sqn. Reserves Support Squadron Airbase Twenthe -313th Sqn. F-16 Squadron -315th Sqn. F-16 Squadron -620th Sqn. Security Squadron -910th Sqn. F-16 Maintenance Support Squadron -911th Sqn. Transport and Storage Support Squadron -913th Sqn. Miscellaneous Support Squadron Smaller airbases Airbase Eindhoven -334th Sqn. C-130 Hercules and Fokker F60 Transport Squadron -940th Sqn. Maintenance Support Squadron -941st Sqn. Miscellaneous Support Squadron Airbase Woensdrecht Royal Military Airforce School Logistics Center Weather-forecast Center Tactical Helicopter Groups (THG) and Airbases THG Soesterberg -298th Sqn. CH-47 Chinook Squadron -300th Sqn. Eurocopter Cougar and Aérospatiale Alouette III Squadron -932nd Sqn. Maintenance and Logistic Support Squadron -933rd Sqn. Miscellaneous Support Squadron -934th Sqn. Facility Management Support Squadron THG Gilze-Rijen -301st Sqn. AH-64 Apache Squadron -302nd Sqn. AH-64 Apache Squadron -930th Sqn. Communication and Information Support Squadron -931st Sqn. Miscellaneous Support Squadron Guided Weapons base Guided Weapons Group De Peel -801st Sqn. MIM-104 Patriot and FIM-92 Stinger Squadron -802nd Sqn. MIM-104 Patriot and FIM-92 Stinger Squadron -803rd Sqn. MIM-104 Patriot and FIM-92 Stinger Squadron -804th Sqn. MIM-104 Patriot and FIM-92 Stinger Tactics, Education & Standardization Squadron -800th Sqn. Group Operations Squadron -650th Sqn. Security Support Squadron -951st Sqn. Maintenance and Logistic Support Squadron Control station Air Operations Control Station Nieuw Milligen -710th Sqn. Air Combat Control Squadron -711th Sqn. Air Security Control Squadron -970th Sqn. Support Squadron Future Plans The F-16 will be replaced in the future by the Joint Strike Fighter. It was favoured over the Eurofighter, Rafale and Saab Gripen because the Dutch cabinet believes that the JSF is a sound business investment and has a bright future. http://www.futura-dtp.dk/Flysiden/KORT/Holland.gif http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/n/nl_round.gif A circle divided into three equal sectors in the colours red, white and blue. At the centre an orange circle with a radius of one fifth of the roundel. The Koninklijke Luchtmacht was formed on 1 July 1913 as Luchtvaartafdeling and adopted in 1914 its first roundel - an orange ball. In 1921 a new roundel was adopted (same as today) with horizontal rudder stripes of red-white-blue. http://www.zap16.com/images/tw03-f16am-j138-rnaf.jpg http://www.zap16.com/images/tw03-Hercules-G273-klu.jpg Hercules http://www.zap16.com/images/tw03-Hercules-and-Chinook-K.jpg Chinook http://www.airventure.de/ila2004/rnlaf.jpg F16 http://www.aviation-top-pics.com/images2/Volkel-2004/IMG_1280.JPG http://www.aviation-top-pics.com/images2/Volkel-2004/IMG_1218.JPG http://www.thundermaster.com/306reunie/baret2a.jpg http://www.thundermaster.com/306reunie/apacheff.jpg Apache http://www.thundermaster.com/306reunie/DSCF0022.JPG http://www.zap16.com/images/tw03-Orion-Royal-Dutch-Navy.jpg Orion http://www.zap16.com/images/tw03-fokker-60-u-03-334sqn-.jpg Fokker 60 http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images/000/756/739_512f3e93a7b28e0cc40510e2612bc8c1.jpg www.luchtmacht.nl http://www.danshistory.com/jsf_1.jpgreplacements... :) Hviid May 25th, 2005, 02:29 PM The Swedish Army is impressive! :) Heres some from the RDAF (Royal Danish Air Force) - Im not sure what they're called exactly so i'll just post the pictures... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/1.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/2.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/3.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/4.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/5.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/6.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/7.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/8.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/9.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/10.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/11.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/RDAF/12.jpg _tictac_ May 25th, 2005, 03:01 PM I really would like to see the stuff they hide from people. The technology and the planes that they got...im sure some of them are insane! Probably not all that much, I do believe in "black programs" such as USAF's Aurora SR-X (replacement for SR-71 Blackbird) and X-33 though. Aurora SR-X is believed to have a top speed of Mach 20+ and is fully piloted, while the X-33 is not. "Aurora was first heard about in 1985, where, in the Pentagon's budget request, a censor's error left an item labelled "Aurora", with a reference to production funding starting in 1987. It was located to the SR-71 and U2's production costs. (Two other spy planes). The Pentagon refused all requests to comment on it, and has never been mentioned since." atoom May 25th, 2005, 03:46 PM Sen has posted some PLAAF pics, and i post some new pics of PLAAF as supplyments to his. J-10 A http://mil.jschina.com.cn/Files/Upfile/200546235817417.jpg http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/2005-04-19/U28P27T1D282241F3DT20050419143001.jpg http://news.warchina.com/jspl26/images/j10a.jpg J-10 B http://www.war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_050520/46_51362.jpg http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/2005-04-19/U28P27T1D282244F3DT20050419143033.jpg FC-1 http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard/uploads/fc1_specs_overhead.jpg http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/fighter/FC-1_03.jpg JH-7 http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/gallery/jh-7f.jpg http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/gallery/084.jpg KJ-2000 AWACS http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/surveillance/KJ-2000c.jpg el tico May 26th, 2005, 11:13 PM Costa Rica, Central America... Well we don't have any Air Force, cause we ain't got no army! :D SuperMan44 May 27th, 2005, 09:30 PM Pakistani airforce http://pakistanidefenceforum.com/index.php?showtopic=43806&st=0 that link has hundreds of pictures of Pakistan's airforce UnitedPakistan May 27th, 2005, 11:59 PM Here is the legendary PAF/RPAF http://pakcafe.com/forums/uploads/post-1-1117230720.jpg http://pakcafe.com/forums/uploads/post-1-1117230800.jpg http://pakcafe.com/forums/uploads/post-1-1117230865.jpg UnitedPakistan May 28th, 2005, 12:01 AM Sen has posted some PLAAF pics, and i post some new pics of PLAAF as supplyments to his. J-10 A http://mil.jschina.com.cn/Files/Upfile/200546235817417.jpg http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/2005-04-19/U28P27T1D282241F3DT20050419143001.jpg http://news.warchina.com/jspl26/images/j10a.jpg J-10 B http://www.war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_050520/46_51362.jpg http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/2005-04-19/U28P27T1D282244F3DT20050419143033.jpg FC-1 http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard/uploads/fc1_specs_overhead.jpg http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/fighter/FC-1_03.jpg JH-7 http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/gallery/jh-7f.jpg http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/gallery/084.jpg KJ-2000 AWACS http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/surveillance/KJ-2000c.jpg FC-1 is made in Pakistan as well since its a co op Hviid May 28th, 2005, 04:14 PM Heres a list of a few other danish airforce aircrafts: D.H. Chipmunk K-8b C-54D/G Alouette III F/RF/TF-35 Draken KZ-IIT/S C-47 Dakota F-84G Fokker D. XXI KZ-III Oxford Pembroke T-33A F-100D/TF-100F Meteor F. Mk. IV/Mk. 8/T.T. Mk. 20/T. Mk. VII PBY-5A/6A Catalina F-104G/CF-104/CF-104D N.A. F-86D Hunter F. Mk. 51/T. Mk. 7/T.Mk. 53 Proctor S-55C T-33A Harvard Mk. IIb Avro 504N Dankok KZ-VII Spitfire F. Mk. Ixc/Ixe/PR. XI RF-84F F-16A/B/AM/BM Lynx Mk. 80/90B L-18 S-61A Bell 47D Gulfstream G-III C-130H CL604 T-17 B-17G UnitedPakistan May 28th, 2005, 11:37 PM [/CENTER]THE ROYAL PAKISTANI AIRFORCE PAF/RPAF[CENTER] F-16 http://www.pakistanidefence.com/images/Air_Force_Pics/F16/F16_GreenFrountires.jpg http://www.floridaradioactive.com/wallpaper/air_force/F-16_Pakistan.jpg http://www.pakistanidefence.com/images/Air_Force_Pics/F16/F16_IX.jpg Miragee http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/images/mirageiiioma_4.JPG Alouette III Helicopter http://img150.echo.cx/img150/3709/alouetteiiihelicopterpakistani.jpg FC-1 http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/fc1pak.jpg C-130 Hercules http://www.scramble.nl/mil/3/pakaf/gfx/photos/voor-c130.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/83703.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/cac-fc-1-jf-17dr.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kt10208/Military/e7e14c3c.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kt10208/Military/02dd923f.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/f1601.jpg centralized pandemonium May 28th, 2005, 11:45 PM ^^^ When the drop the tag "ROYAL". UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 03:26 AM ^^^ When the drop the tag "ROYAL". clarify your sentence please Anniyan May 29th, 2005, 03:30 AM ^^ MAY I KNOW WHY THEY USE THE TAG 'royal' UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 03:45 AM Well you should know this even India used to hold the tag RIAF but i guess you guys got rid of it right away. Pakistan kept the RPAF tage after partition for sometime because of the heavy British influence in our airforce at the time mainly because of Karachi airport which was the hub of the South Asia. Anyways it was given the tag by the british ACM in charge at that time. UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 03:47 AM a quick side note the pic below is a picture of the FC-1 which is the co produced(China and Pakistan) fighter. Its currently being upgraded and is almost on par with the block 45 F-16. PAC is getting ready to make these in Pakistan and export them to other nations. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/cac-fc-1-jf-17dr.jpg Anniyan May 29th, 2005, 03:49 AM have they dropped that tag now... UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 03:51 AM Not sure 100% but i believe its faded away btw some still call it RPAF anyways i like to leave it at PAF/RPAF SuperMan44 May 29th, 2005, 06:04 AM Its PAF now I think. I dont see anyone calling it RPAF anymore. UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 06:57 AM Well i guess it can go both ways just a prefrence? innoncent_monster May 29th, 2005, 07:04 AM Good airforce there PAF needs more aircrafts in their quest for world power status UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 09:08 AM Good airforce there PAF needs more aircrafts in their quest for world power status We dont need weapons of destruction when we olny have one enemy on the east and PAF is modernizing anyways its the quality not the quantity SuperMan44 May 29th, 2005, 08:04 PM PAF needs more aircrafts in their quest for world power statusI don't think Pakistan has any intention to become a super power. innoncent_monster May 29th, 2005, 08:17 PM ^ A worldpower need not be a Superpower too . eg : France . Pakistan is the savior of Islamic world - being the only Islamic nuclear power and the 2nd most populous muslim country . Pakistan definitely needs more F-16s and likes Pakistan's India fixation has to go and Pakistani youth should perceive themselves as an Islamic power After all , Pakistan is the 5th most populous country on planet SuperMan44 May 29th, 2005, 08:30 PM Hmm i think we are getting new f-16s from USA. 86 in total. 75 new ones and 11 used ones if i am correct UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 08:31 PM Pakistan's India fixation? Dude we dont even equate our military with yours! We equate our military with superpowers like China India is far behind and in 2010 you guys will be blown away anyway after we get more advanced equipment from both the US and China including the AWACs killer SAM and the TPS-77 Radar And Indians are the ones with the fixation on Pakistan hell this thread proves it as well where the Indians just had to come and make unacceptable comments. Anniyan May 29th, 2005, 08:36 PM ^^ Pakistanunited cracks nice jokes SuperMan44 May 29th, 2005, 08:49 PM Yeah those statements are exaggarted. Anyways, those 75 new f-16s are F16 C/D block 52 and rest 11 are used. UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 08:57 PM ^^ Pakistanunited cracks nice jokes Really have any info to prove me wrong? And superman has no clue what he is talking about as he doesnt know anything about the military. UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 09:07 PM UK ready to sell Type-23 ships to Pakistan Pak Observer London—Chief of the Naval Staff Shahid Karimullah said on Monday that Britain has offered to sell three Tpye-23 ships to Pakistan. Britain showed its interest in selling the ships and “we have shown interest” in purchasing the same, Admiral Karimuall said after talks with his British counterpart Admiral First Sea Lord Sir Alan West. Pakistan’s High Commissioner to Britain Dr. Maleeha Lodhi also attended the talks. “Now onward we are going to discuss the funding aspect, price aspect and once that is completed then a final decision could be taken,” Admiral Karimullah said. The Chief of the Naval Staff arrived here Sunday on a 6-day official visit on the invitation of his British counterpart, who had visited Pakistan two years ago. Replying to a question, he said the focus of his discussion with Sir Alan West was basically on “the training aspect because the maximum training acquired by Pakistan Navy is from the Royal Navy.” “Pakistan Navy requires more surface ships and that is the reason why the Government has now concluded a contract with the Chinese for more ships,” he said. Answering a question he said Pakistan’s role in the fight against terrorism had been internationally recognized and appreciated. He said his visit to London would further cement friendship and understanding between Pakistan and Britain The Admiral said two Pakistani ships would be participating in the UK celebration of Battle of Trafalgar, which he called “flag-showing diplomacy” of the Navy.—APP UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 09:09 PM Concept The Type 23 frigate is a true child of the Falklands War, as it represented the first occasion in which the painful lessons of the South Atlantic could be applied to a new class of ship. The Type 23, or Duke class, was conceived in the late 1970s as an anti-submarine warship which could hold its own as a general-purpose weapon platform - in other words, a specialist submarine hunter but also a good all-rounder. At about the same time the idea of the EH-101 was emerging from the wreckage of the WG34 programme, and these two resulting machines - the Type 23 frigate and the Merlin helicopter - progressed very much in tandem, with an eye to their combined capabilities. When the first Type 23 orders were placed in October 1984 with Yarrow Shipbuilders at Scotstoun on the Clyde, who acted as designers and lead builder, the Duke class was to be first and foremost a series of ultra-quiet anti-submarine ships. But the Falklands War of 1982 had a crucial role in the evolution of the design - for example, the major elements of the Type 23's weapon fit were not finalised until after the construction contract was signed, so rapid was the development of weapons systems. Among the areas of particular concern were the ships' survivability, and their ability to defend themselves in combat. As a result, the Type 23 packs a bigger punch than many similar-sized ships, and its structural features qualify it as a genuinely 'stealthy' vessel. The class remained, at the bottom line, an anti-submarine ship, and the Dukes were expected to patrol the deep waters of the North Atlantic with a towed sonar array which could pick up and track the sound of Soviet submarines. Confused sonar patterns in shallower waters were to present fewer problems to the Type 23 than to earlier ships as the frigate's propulsions system was also designed to radiate as little noise as possible, both to avoid confusing the ship's own sonar, and to prevent the Royal Navy warship being detected by its prey. The need to operate the Merlin helicopter - a bigger and heavier aircraft than the Sea King - was a major factor in the size of the vessel, and the fact that an aircraft is available for operations to a much higher degree when there is a sheltered environment in which to maintain it determined that the frigates would have a hangar. As the design became crystallised and the time approached for the cutting of steel at the Glasgow shipyard, the Type 23 was expected to become a mainstay of the NATO fleet as it sought to contain Soviet forces in the far North, and to contribute to other operations in the Atlantic and other, shallower, seas. It was certainly designed to form the backbone of the Royal Navy's surface flotilla, making up around half of the destroyer-frigate force - the workhorses of the modern Navy. Top of Page Stealth Type 23 frigates were the first ships designed for the Royal Navy as stealth vessels, and as such, 'signature reduction' - the elimination of as much noise, heat and reflection as possible - was an important factor in the shape of the hull and installation of machinery. The two principal signatures addressed by the Duke class are noise and radar cross-section. Modern anti-submarine ships need to be quiet to avoid interfering with their own sonar systems, both hull-mounted and towed, and so the need to cut underwater noise has been paramount. The choice of propulsion system - a combined diesel electric and gas turbine layout - is unusual for the Royal Navy, but fits the bill perfectly. When required to sprint, the two Rolls-Royce Spey gas turbines feed 23.2mW through a GEC gearbox to two shafts, allowing the Type 23 to reach speeds approaching 30 knots. But while tracking a contact, when silence is vital, the ship is powered by two GEC electric motors, connected directly to the shafts and turning two big low-speed revolving propellers. This means the noisy gearboxes, lubricating pumps and other linked machinery can be shut down, eliminating clutter in the sonar picture. All noise-generating machinery has been identified and isolated by insulating material, or by being placed on acoustic rafts, and hull vibration equipment monitors unusual noise to help identify particular problems from within the ship. Meanwhile the radar cross-section - the size of the target the ship presents to an enemy radar operator - has also been addressed. The strength of the echo a ship presents is not directly related to its size - modern radar reflectors on small yachts and fishing boats present large radar cross-sections - but to other factors such as the wavelength at which the radar illuminates its target. By reducing this cross-section, the chance of an enemy radar-guided missile locking-on is reduced, and there is consequently a better chance of decoys distracting the incoming missile. Because the main threat was perceived as being from sea-skimming missiles, with a single combined transmitter and receiver low on the horizon, the geometry of the Type 23 was designed to prevent radar beams being reflected back to the missile. The superstructure has a seven degree slope to all vertical surfaces, and all edges are rounded, while the 133-metre hull is noticeably flared along its length; this means the horizontal radar beams of the enemy missile are scattered harmlessly into the sky or sea, and not back to the weapon. Just as importantly, deck fittings and equipment have been reduced as much as possible, and that which remains is designed to present a minimal signature; all the good work of the hull and superstructure design could have been undone with a poorly-designed locker or housing. Top of Page Anti-submarine The Duke class is an effective submarine hunter - and when it finds its target, it possesses the ability to do a lot of damage. Towed sonar arrays - Type 2031 in the first ten of the class, with the remaining six expected to be fitted with the new Type 2087 from the middle of the decade - and the hull-mounted Type 2050, in a bow dome, pick up the sound of a submarine at considerable distances. Towed arrays are most effective when streamed out behind the frigates at a low speed in deep, quiet water, and contacts can be cross-checked against known surface shipping in the area to refine the search for an enemy boat. Merlin will add the icing to the cake by providing a fast, long-range pinpoint capability - it can fly off to check a particular sound with its dipping sonar, and data from the aircraft will be sent direct to the ship, effectively extending the anti-submarine clout of the Dukes by hundreds of miles. If an attack is deemed necessary, the Merlin can deliver up to four lightweight Stingray homing torpedoes or depth bombs at some distance from the mother ship; if the contact is at close quarters, the Duke class can also fire Stingrays from two sets of twin launch tubes. Top of Page Self-defence Again, the Falklands War provided a painful reminder of the need for effective self-defence for any ship, and the Duke class reflects that lesson. Type 23 frigates now operate worldwide as singletons - on their own, maybe with just a small Fleet tanker for support - but can just as easily be called in to act as a close escort for a task group. The first line of defence for the frigates is the electronic warfare (EW) suite and air-warning systems, vital in an anti-air warfare (AAW) scenario. The latter is centred on a flexible, three-dimensional radar system, Type 996(1), which scans for and identifies both high-level aircraft or diving missiles and sea-skimming threats, linking in to the ship's combat system to allow such threats to be dealt with quickly. Merlin, with its Blue Kestrel 5000 radar, can also act as an airborne early warning (AEW) aircraft in such situations. Once identified, an aerial threat will most likely be dealt with using the vertical launch Seawolf system; the vertical launch pattern is particularly useful in that there is no 'blind spot' on the ship - any missile can be handled by the most convenient fire-control tracker, whereas older systems tied a missile to a particular tracker, which might be at the wrong angle to counter the incoming missile or aircraft. Seawolf missiles are situated in a rack of 32 canisters just forward of the bridge, breaking through the cover of the tube when launched and clearing the ship before discarding the launch booster motor and turning to meet the threat. In addition, ships of the Duke class have two 30mm power-driven anti-aircraft cannon amidships, and the Vickers 4.5in gun forward of the Seawolf launch system can also knock aircraft out of the sky. Passive defence is provided by a Sea Gnat decoy system and electronic jamming devices, and a towed torpedo decoy may be deployed. Top of Page Attack In addition to the anti-submarine warfare capabilities outlined earlier, and those systems primarily designed for self-defence, the Type 23 frigate has a number of attacking weapons. The Vickers Mk 8 4.5in gun is primarily fitted for naval gunfire support operations, banging off 21kg shells to a distance of more than 12 miles, and it can just as easily be used against ships. Duke-class frigates also carry Harpoon missiles as the principal weapon in dealing with the threat from other warships or surface targets; these missiles carry a hefty warhead more than 70 miles at close to the speed of sound, using radar to home in on the target in the final stages of the attack. If a Lynx helicopter is carried, then air-launched Sea Skua anti-ship missiles are also available. Top of Page The ship's company A warship, as the Royal Navy will never tire of telling you, is only as effective as the men and women who fight it, and in the case of the Type 23 frigate, they are a highly-skilled and select group. For a ship of its size - 4,200 tons, when fully loaded - there is only a modest requirement for up to 180 people, of whom just over a dozen will be officers. The Duke class are a good example of the Royal Navy's lean-manning policy in practice. Extensive automation means that many of the critical systems are computerised - from the weapons and sensors, through the main engines and electrical distribution systems, to the catering accounts and pay and personnel records. The ship's company is divided into various departments within the ship, with the Operations Department being at the sharp end. The Operations Department is itself split into five distinct divisions: missile, sonar, radar, electronic warfare and communications. The Missile Division man the Seawolf and Harpoon systems, and - somewhat anachronistically - the 4.5in gun. Sonar Division are responsible for manning the submarine detection systems, while Radar Division looks after the radar displays in the Operations Room ('Ops Room') and plot data received from other ships and aircraft. Electronic Warfare (EW) ratings analyse electronic signals of all kinds to identify which ships, aircraft or other sources are transmitting them. The Communications Division (Comms) keep the ship in touch with shore-based headquarters and maintain tactical communication with friendly ships and aircraft in the immediate area. The Ops Room is the heart of the Operations Department, closely linked to the Sound Room. In these two areas all the incoming data from sensors is processed and displayed, allowing the ship's commanding officer, the Principal Warfare Officer (PWO, pronounced pea-woe) and the Command Team to gauge the bigger picture - the whereabouts of friendly and enemy units in an area stretching for hundreds of miles. Any direct threat to the ship, or to the force of which the ship is a member, can be assessed and an appropriate course of action taken - which could mean bringing one of the weapons systems to bear. The ship's aircraft - Lynx, Sea King or Merlin are all possibilities - are also manned by Ops Department personnel The Marine Engineering Department is primarily responsible for running, maintaining and repairing the non-weapon equipment, which includes everything from the main propulsion motors to the sanitary services and domestic facilities. Apart from the engines, described earlier, the ME department looks after four generators which supply power for all the departments on board - whether the means to run a sophisticated missile system or simply to switch on a bunk-head lamp. All fresh water used on board the frigates is produced from seawater by the reverse osmosis method, providing water for drinking, cooking, washing and cleaning. The department is also responsible for the distribution systems by which water, fuel, oil and ventilation are delivered to the point at which they are needed. And while integrated circuits and other modern technology means systems are controlled and monitored automatically, the computer age does not mean the human touch is redundant - highly-skilled artificers and mechanics are needed to operate and maintain the equipment. The levels of knowledge required in both electrical and mechanical fields means the ME department contains some of the most highly-trained personnel in the Navy. The Weapon Engineering Department maintains the ship's sensor, communications and weapons systems, which in the Duke class includes the Vertical Launch Seawolf close-range defence system. Seawolf consists of two tracking radars, one forward and one aft, and a silo of 32 missiles which are launched automatically. The Type 23 also has a magazine torpedo launch system, allowing Marconi Stingray torpedoes to be fired from within the ship itself through doors on either side of the hangar superstructure and then reloaded automatically. Among the sensors under the care of the WE Department are the 996 radar, Ferranti/Thomson Sintra Type 2050 bow-mounted sonar, and the latest in electronic warfare, the UAF system, which passively monitors and identifies radar emissions which reach the ship. At the heart of these systems is a computer-based command system, which not only communicates with and controls weapons and sensor systems, but also allows these systems to pass information between themselves independently of the command system itself. Finally, the department is responsible for the ship's integrated communications system, which gathers and distributes incoming messages, and transmits information from the ship via satellite or radio links. Once again the men and women in the department are trained to a much higher level than has been needed in the Navy in previous decades, and they use a battery of diagnostic tools to ensure all defects are rectified immediately, and all maintenance is up to date, to keep the ship fighting fit. The Supply and Secretariat Department provides logistic support, administration and 'hotel services' for the ship. It is split into several sections, including the Stores Accountant, Chef, Caterer, Steward and Writer specialisations, as well as the civilian roles of NAAFI canteen manager and laundry manager. Stores Accountants are responsible for six major store rooms which contain up to 18,000 different items valued at well over £1 million. The majority of these spares are vital parts used in the maintenance of the frigate's weapon, propulsion and ancillary systems, and to help them the SAs have a computerised stockholding and stowage location system. The Chefs, supervised by a Petty Officer Caterer, ensure the ship is fully stocked with the food and drink needed to provide a balanced and varied diet for the ship's company, and once again they are helped by a bespoke computer system. Cooking is undertaken in a single galley, from where it is served to the two dining halls or transferred to the Wardroom. Stewards ensure the day-to-day smooth running of the officers' mess on board, although they are also responsible for the organisation and presentation of formal functions on board - during a deployment, they will be expected to rise to the occasion on a regular basis as visiting VIPs and dignitaries are welcomed on to the frigate. The Ship's Office is the administrative centre, where Writers co-ordinate pay, cash, personnel records and correspondence, and once again computers now play an important part in the organisation of their work. The two civilians on board are the NAAFI manager and the laundry manager. The NAAFI manager runs the canteen services for the ship's company, stocking everything from shampoo to beer and chocolate to shoe polish. The NAAFI is also regarded as a good place on board to catch the buzz - find out what's going on around the ship and beyond. The laundry manager provides a same-day service on cleaning services on a repayment basis. Top of Page The Type 23 frigate in service Early plans allowed for up to 23 Type 23 hulls, but the class has now completed with a total of 16 frigates, the last of which is HMS St Albans. The first of the class, HMS Norfolk, was ordered from Yarrows in October 1984, with the final three being ordered almost 12 years later, in February 1996. HMS Lancaster, the third of the class, was originally given the pennant number F232, but that was changed to F229 as 232 was regarded as unlucky - 232 is the number of the Royal Navy's report form for groundings and collisions. The full list, with (pennant number), builder, date of launch and date of commissioning, is: HMS Norfolk (F230), Yarrows; July 10, 1987; June 1, 1990 HMS Argyll (F231), Yarrows; April 8, 1989; May 31, 1991 HMS Lancaster (F229), Yarrows; May 24, 1990; May 1, 1992 HMS Marlborough (F233), Swan Hunter; January 21, 1989; June 14, 1991 HMS Iron Duke (F234), Yarrows; March 2, 1991; May 20, 1993 HMS Monmouth (F235), Yarrows; November 23, 1991; Sept 24, 1993 HMS Montrose (F236), Yarrows; July 31, 1992; June 2, 1994 HMS Westminster (F237), Swan Hunter; February 4, 1992; May 13, 1994 HMS Northumberland (F238), Swan Hunter; April 4, 1992; November 29, 1994 HMS Richmond (F239), Swan Hunter; April 6, 1993; June 22, 1995 HMS Somerset (F82), Yarrows; June 26, 1994; September 20, 1996 HMS Grafton (F80), Yarrows; November 5, 1994; May 29, 1997 HMS Sutherland (F81), Yarrows; March 9, 1996; July 4, 1997 HMS Kent (F78), Yarrows; May 27, 1998; June 8, 2000 HMS Portland (F79), Yarrows; May 15, 1999; May 3, 2001 HMS St Albans (F83), Yarrows; May 6, 2000; to be commissioned centralized pandemonium May 29th, 2005, 10:06 PM Err, did you guys read the title of this thread "Show your country's air force:. It does not say ANYTHING about navy. Please close the discussion guys, and let other people post their pics. SuperMan44 May 29th, 2005, 10:08 PM Err, did you guys read the title of this thread "Show your country's air force:. It does not say ANYTHING about navy. Please close the discussion guys, and let other people post their pics.Thats exactly what I was telling you in the Lahore vs Dhaka and the Karachi vs whatever cities topic it was and you didn't listen and now expect us to act better. centralized pandemonium May 29th, 2005, 10:19 PM ^^^ What did I say in that. Ok, no keep my thread clean. Look, I am intrested in aeroplanes. I also like fighter ones. I just wanted to gain knowledge about other countries' fighters, including Pakistan. Earlier there was a thread callled "Show your nation's navy". The forumers were so cool in that I took the clue from that and I started this thread. Now please do not ruin it. SuperMan44 May 29th, 2005, 10:22 PM ^^^ What did I say in that. Ok, no keep my thread clean. Now please do not ruin it.Go check the topic for yourself and see what you posted. And what were you guys thinking when you ruined those topics and now asking us not to ruin them? centralized pandemonium May 29th, 2005, 10:25 PM I did NOT ruin your whatever vs threads. You said some crap abt our cities and I defended it. Now this is MY thread. Do not ruin it with further argument. UnitedPakistan May 29th, 2005, 10:30 PM Well i think you should talk to your Indian forumers since they started it SuperMan44 May 29th, 2005, 10:32 PM I did not said crap about your cities, it was your forumers who brought up India in those topics. If your Indian forums hadn't brought up India in those topics, you wouldn't see me so pissed off today. SuperMan44 May 29th, 2005, 10:32 PM double post centralized pandemonium May 29th, 2005, 10:34 PM ^^^ If you have any problems with the Indian forumers, talk to them thru PM's. Do not ruin this thread. innoncent_monster May 29th, 2005, 11:31 PM India's upcoming indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) http://home.iae.nl/users/wbergmns/big/lca.jpg Manufacturer : Hindustan Aeronautical Limited (HAL) , India . Max Speed: 1700 km/h Armament: 1 cannon 23mm 7 hardpoints Range: 850 km combat range SuperMan44 May 30th, 2005, 12:00 AM More PAF http://www.malghani.8m.com/f6.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/3/pakaf/gfx/photos/voor-k8.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/3/pakaf/gfx/photos/voor-piper.jpg http://www.pakistanidefence.com/images/Air_Force_Pics/F7/F7pg_Sq20.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/3/pakaf/gfx/photos/f16.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/3/pakaf/gfx/photos/f7-rij.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/3/pakaf/gfx/photos/voor-f27.jpg http://www.scramble.nl/mil/3/pakaf/gfx/photos/voor-c130.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/posterround.gif http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/falcontwin.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/mirageExocet.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/Miragetwin.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/f7trio.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/chinaPack.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/Fantantrio.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/k8trio.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/F16shelter.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/a5loading.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/c130.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/Albums/Album3/c130pack.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/f16pack.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/miragefleet.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/f6.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/a5squad.jpg http://www.mabaig.co.uk/paf/mig15fleet.jpg http://www.geocities.com/paf_puma/A501.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/83703.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/JF-17-Deftalk28.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/C-13020PAF.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/3d-jf17-04.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/3d-jf17-03.jpg http://img287.echo.cx/img287/9329/paf4ut.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/PAF20F-1620MirageTrio.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/Painting-Polly01.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/supercool.jpg Anniyan May 30th, 2005, 12:01 AM ^^ nice aircrafts SuperMan44 May 30th, 2005, 12:04 AM good that you edited your insults out.. UnitedPakistan May 30th, 2005, 03:05 AM Pakistani Built indigenous FC-1 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/images/fc-1_1.jpg http://img22.exs.cx/img22/7831/JF-17-Deftalk29.jpg UnitedPakistan May 30th, 2005, 03:08 AM India's upcoming indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) http://home.iae.nl/users/wbergmns/big/lca.jpg Manufacturer : Hindustan Aeronautical Limited (HAL) , India . Max Speed: 1700 km/h Armament: 1 cannon 23mm 7 hardpoints Range: 850 km combat range I just wanted to give some information for this and wanted to see if i was misinformed so dont flame at me The Aviation Scene: By Thakurani Veena Kanwar The Light Combat Aircraft, notwithstanding all the protestations to the contrary is as dead as a dodo. The Kaveri Gas Turbine Engine has failed and has still not been test flown. The replacement, the Watt and Pratley, GE 404 engine, which had powered the F-4 is no longer being produced in United States of America. Thus even if the American sanctions have been lifted this engine will never be available. The Air Force has also given up on the aircraft and is now talking of a new aircraft which they have termed the Medium Combat Aircraft which would have greater weapon load carrying capacity. That means that the entire exercise will have to be started de novo. the LCA, a great achievement for which the country has laid down Rs 5,000 crore (US $ 1.15 Billion at US $ 1 = Indian Rs 43.44) investment so far. The IAF makes a show of being interested, but its equipment plans are aimed at strangling the programme. centralized pandemonium May 30th, 2005, 03:10 AM Pakistani Built indigenous FC-1 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/images/fc-1_1.jpg http://img22.exs.cx/img22/7831/JF-17-Deftalk29.jpg Why is it written in Chinese if it is supposed to be Pakistani built indigenous FC-1. BTW, isn't FC-1 supposed to mean Fighter China-1. So how exactly is it indegenious. Why would they name it Fighter China. Wouldn't they name it Fighter Pakistan or something like that. centralized pandemonium May 30th, 2005, 03:13 AM Self edited. UnitedPakistan May 30th, 2005, 03:14 AM Well i guess someone is pissed lol Its co produced Pakistan sent its scientists and basically using China's facilities to build it but everything except the engine will be built in Pakistan. Now try to be smart and answer my post. innoncent_monster May 30th, 2005, 03:15 AM ^ If what you wrote is to be believed , its a blessing in disguise that they wont be spending taxpayers hard-earned money on more such aircrafts before eradicating poverty in India . As for Pakistan , since its the sole saviour of Islamic world, it definitely needs to elevate its defence budget and grab more aircrafts , ICBMs and expand their existings arsenals :) I take inspiration from this cartoon : http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/ksc/lowres/kscn33l.jpg :) centralized pandemonium May 30th, 2005, 03:17 AM To PU :Built yeah, but is it designed in Pakistan. I won't dwell into further problems regarding that. Anyways, if you want to have a disucssion in military stuff, see the link in my previous post. I think people over there can answer you better(not that I cannot, but I won't coz, I don't want to ruin this thread with discussions, I just wanna see the pictures of AF's of different countries :). ) This thread has been doing great till now. UnitedPakistan May 30th, 2005, 03:17 AM Hey PU, if you are intrested in military stuff, here's a nice international forum for you. http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/ That site is run by a racist fool We contacted key publishing and threatened to report them to the FBI racial profiling unit and the owners said they werent aware of this and how Pakistanis were immediatly banned and Indians were allowed to flame Pakistanis without warning. And that moderator Harry who deleted all Pakistani posts. I hope thats not you or else i will have fun doing some stuff. http://www.pakdef.info/forum/showthread.php?t=6623&page=1 UnitedPakistan May 30th, 2005, 03:19 AM ^ If what you wrote is to be believed , its a blessing in disguise that they wont be spending taxpayers hard-earned money on more such aircrafts before eradicating poverty in India . As for Pakistan , since its the sole saviour of Islamic world, it definitely needs to elevate its defence budget and grab more aircrafts , ICBMs and expand their existings arsenals :) We have no intrest in becoming a world power all we want is peace in the region by balancing the power and then strenghthening our economy. centralized pandemonium May 30th, 2005, 03:19 AM ^^^ Yeah sure :|. Any place they have a MATURE OBJECTIVE discussion is "racist" blah blah blah ..... UnitedPakistan May 30th, 2005, 03:20 AM To PU :Built yeah, but is it designed in Pakistan. I won't dwell into further problems regarding that. Anyways, if you want to have a disucssion in military stuff, see the link in my previous post. I think people over there can answer you better(not that I cannot, but I won't coz, I don't want to ruin this thread with discussions, I just wanna see the pictures of AF's of different countries :). ) This thread has been doing great till now. It doesnt have to be designed in Pakistan go look up the definition of indigious Hows it not doing great we are having a learning experience are we not? UnitedPakistan May 30th, 2005, 03:21 AM ^^^ Yeah sure :|. Any place they have a MATURE OBJECTIVE discussion is "racist" blah blah blah ..... This topic is not to flame towards any other person or forum. It is just to get other posters informed about one sided bashing on an international forum. I received several personal posts from menbers of this forum about the negative treatment they received. I think it is time to collect that info. This is the forum: http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=5 The forum is lead by a webmaster David Morfee ( david.morfee@keypublishing.com ). For the rest there are three mods. Arthur (a dutch journalist), Google and Harry (an Indian that used to bash and flame towards anything related to Pakistan). It was a shock to find out that this Harry was elected as a mod cause in the past he has been very fanatic nationalistic person. He still thinks that Indian weapons are superior compared to anything in the west. And anyone, including seniors from western forums, are getting some tough time if they want to show that Indian products are maybe not not the best. Harry allows other Indian members to attack and if one reacts one finds himself warned or banned even without evidence. It is very strnage that in the warned or banned post only Pakistani posters are listed. It is strange that if asked no evidence is given. It is strange that one gets personal mail from Indian posters and they know your real name, IP or an ID you have been used some 6 years ago. I don't find it a problem that Indians think that their products are superior. We all know that they think that LCA and Gripen are comparable. Or the fact that Brahmos is entirely Indian. Let them. But the fact that posters are personal bashed and banned without a reason is wrong. I have been asking them to correct an Indian poster called F18 hamburger for using offensive signature. No correction. After that another Pakistani poster posted the same about Indian poster and it was corrected within a day. Let us even add that Indian posters use several nicknames. Some posters are just starting and know everything. They openly admit that they are on AFM forum to flame. Even then they are not warned or banned. A guy like Nitin or Infinity has been real flamy poster. Somehow they receive full protection. We can accept that and sit and wait. I don't think that keeping it unreported will help. AFM forum is well known and the mag is very popular. Just ignoring is not the way to solve this matter. We should all report here the bashing and banning. I know some posters say that we should ignore. Well that did not help much, did it? UnitedPakistan May 30th, 2005, 03:22 AM Can you answer my question? Are you harry? centralized pandemonium May 30th, 2005, 03:25 AM Self edited. centralized pandemonium May 30th, 2005, 03:26 AM Can you answer my question? Are you harry? No I am not. I am HARI. I think that guy is in Mumbai, I am in Toronto. centralized pandemonium May 30th, 2005, 03:28 AM Hey man, please do not ruin this thread. Lets clean this thread. I am GENIUNELY intrested in the planes of other countries. I don't want this thread to be closed down. UnitedPakistan May 30th, 2005, 03:29 AM Hey man, please do not ruin this thread. Lets clean this thread. I am GENIUNELY intrested in the planes of other countries. I don't want this thread to be closed down. It wont as long as it stays civil SuperMan44 May 30th, 2005, 11:33 PM MORE PAF http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/imaging100/aai.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kt10208/Military/e7e14c3c.jpg ^^ just a design http://centurychina.com/plaboard/uploads/JF-17_screenshot.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/aaq.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/aan.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/aal.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/aaa.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/f16a_paveway.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/cheenamalai/f16_griff.jpg http://img114.exs.cx/img114/4580/0234uf.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/Urbanpakistan/mil_ex13.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/anatolianeagle03.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/83703.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/aaj.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/abj.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/f1601.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/f16_sar_t2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/f1607.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/aal.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/aam.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/aav.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/abf.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/abk.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Dizasta76/Vipers/usman_f16a.jpg http://img114.exs.cx/img114/4996/0142mh.jpg http://img114.exs.cx/img114/2310/0136ef.jpg http://img114.exs.cx/img114/9671/0178sx.jpg http://img114.exs.cx/img114/3261/0189uy.jpg http://img114.exs.cx/img114/6422/0198zv.jpg http://img114.exs.cx/img114/1784/0214et.jpg http://img168.exs.cx/img168/1376/011cq.jpg http://img252.echo.cx/img252/6012/airforce96ta.jpg http://img252.echo.cx/img252/2827/as1qs.jpg http://img252.echo.cx/img252/9687/aw80b3eu.jpg http://img252.echo.cx/img252/7662/f169ut.jpg Very close view http://img252.echo.cx/img252/3117/ft7p4wi.jpg http://img252.echo.cx/img252/7670/ft7ptrainer8kz.jpg http://img252.echo.cx/img252/7357/paf20c130e20hercules20landing9.jpg ^C-130H http://img252.echo.cx/img252/7640/paf20c130h5cg.jpg http://img252.echo.cx/img252/1681/paf20f1620formation20over2023r.jpg http://img252.echo.cx/img252/9808/pict92oc.jpg http://img252.echo.cx/img252/3766/pict117qd.jpg http://img209.echo.cx/img209/727/dfdsf7av.jpg http://img100.echo.cx/img100/3709/alouetteiiihelicopterpakistani.jpg UnitedPakistan May 31st, 2005, 04:08 AM ^ If what you wrote is to be believed , its a blessing in disguise that they wont be spending taxpayers hard-earned money on more such aircrafts before eradicating poverty in India . As for Pakistan , since its the sole saviour of Islamic world, it definitely needs to elevate its defence budget and grab more aircrafts , ICBMs and expand their existings arsenals :) I take inspiration from this cartoon : :) how pathetic of you put that cartoon in your reply thanks for ruining a fine thread. centralized pandemonium July 4th, 2005, 06:11 AM Ok, lemme post some pics of Indian Su 30MK's http://robin.julien.free.fr/Su30/IMG_8186_web.JPG http://robin.julien.free.fr/Su30/IMG_8184_web.JPG http://robin.julien.free.fr/Su30/IMG_8178_web.JPG http://robin.julien.free.fr/Su30/IMG_6006_web.JPG More at the following link http://patrouilles.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=386 Psycho July 4th, 2005, 01:07 PM no doubt that USA and Russia make the best platforms centralized pandemonium July 5th, 2005, 04:40 AM ^^^ :yes:. But the French also make decent stuff. The Dassault Rafale is supposed to be really good. Psycho July 5th, 2005, 11:26 PM ^^^ :yes:. But the French also make decent stuff. The Dassault Rafale is supposed to be really good. i'm talking about platforms, planes, helicopters, ships, submarines. the best platforms come from USA Russia and joint european projects like Eurofighter. of course many coutries specializing in some areas, some in avionics some in optics, aome in surveillance etc. btw, what is Dassault Rafale exactly? Manu84 July 11th, 2005, 09:56 PM spain Eurofighter http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/eurofighter-w1_800.jpg F 18 http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-18-ef-usnhornt.jpg harrier II http://avions.legendaires.free.fr/Images/Gav8b-2.jpg aussiescraperman July 12th, 2005, 10:22 AM has anyone done australia yet, if so what page? Talbot July 13th, 2005, 06:26 AM Deleted post. Sorry it didn't turn out how I planned. Ringil July 25th, 2005, 02:16 PM the swedish air force is among the biggest in europe, weird isn't it ;) JAS 39 Gripen, 204 of these http://www.flygplan.info/images/Gripen%20enmans%20och%20tvasatesmodell.jpg http://www.fach-extraoficial.com/fotos/f16/gripen.jpg http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/svedske/gripen/g10.jpg http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/123AJSF37_113-1370.jpg Saab 37 Viggen, 300 of those. The only air plane who've ever caught a mach 3+ blackbird? http://www.aeronautics.ru/img003/saab-jas37-viggen-01.jpg Cpt. Picard August 17th, 2005, 02:41 AM is there some kind of list that shows the all the largest airforces in the world? (maybe a link has already been posted, but it's too hard to find among all the pictures) oogabooga August 18th, 2005, 12:35 AM What about Japan's airforce? Do they have any hightech planes? Do they make planes? Hillis August 18th, 2005, 01:00 AM Canada's airforce is shit: http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/today5_e.asp 14,500 regular pilots, 2,500 civilians, 2,600 reserve. 350 Aircraft, 2 billion / year budget. firmanhadi August 18th, 2005, 03:39 AM "Elang Biru" (Blue Falcon) F-16 Demonstration Team http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6682/f1639pp.jpg (http://imageshack.us) A lone F-16 patrolling the archipelago http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5513/f161wz.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Sukhoi 30 after a long day http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4376/sukhoi302ay.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Pics: www.milavia.net and www.f-16.net CharlieP August 19th, 2005, 07:30 PM Sukhoi 30 after a long day http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4376/sukhoi302ay.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Definitely a long day if it's coming in to land with its landing gear up :D firmanhadi August 20th, 2005, 05:32 AM Definitely a long day if it's coming in to land with its landing gear up :D :hilarious shayan October 11th, 2005, 06:37 PM IRAN (not much but we prefere peace over war) http://www.shiaimages.net/data/media/65/1-IRIAF-Air_Force(002).jpg http://www.shiaimages.net/data/media/65/1-IRIAF-Air_Force(013).jpg http://www.shiaimages.net/data/media/65/1-IRIAF-Air_Force(014).jpg http://www.shiaimages.net/data/media/65/1-IRIAF-Air_Force(018).jpghttp://www.shiaimages.net/data/media/65/1-IRIAF-Air_Force(020).jpg http://www.shiaimages.net/data/media/65/1-IRIAF-Air_Force(022).jpghttp://www.shiaimages.net/data/media/65/1-IRIAF-Air_Force(025).jpg http://www.shiaimages.net/data/media/65/1-IRIAF-Air_Force(026).jpg shayan October 11th, 2005, 06:52 PM Iran some more considering some didnt work [IMG]http://www.shiaimages.net/data/media/65/1-IRIAF-Air_Force(002).jpg shayan October 11th, 2005, 06:54 PM omg i'm such a noob really http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=59 (http://) thoju75 October 11th, 2005, 07:13 PM http://www.freephotohost.com/files/1149/getData2.jpg http://www.freephotohost.com/files/1149/getData3.jpg shayan October 11th, 2005, 07:16 PM BEAUTIFUL really like the idea of just showing and not jusing this stuff LOL thoju75 October 11th, 2005, 07:20 PM As an ambassador of France and of its aeronautical know-how, to New York at Hong Kong, the Patrouille de France prouds itself in the prestige of 52 years of experience and has undisputably its place in the very close circle of the world’s best aerobatics teams (Source:http://www.defense.gouv.fr/sites/air/contents_in_english/patrouille_de_france/ambassador_in_the_world) warwickland October 11th, 2005, 07:26 PM this is just about the lamest thread ive seen all day. Ringil October 11th, 2005, 07:28 PM http://www.swissjet.ch/1024/AIR04/Teams/20040901_PatrouillesEurope.jpg Together we're strong :) centralized pandemonium October 11th, 2005, 07:45 PM this is just about the lamest thread ive seen all day. Then don't reply :sleepy:. andysimo123 October 11th, 2005, 08:31 PM Royal Airforce Typhoon(Eurofigher) No. 29 Squadron 55 are to be delivered to No. 17 and No.29 Squadron by 2006. http://www.raf.mod.uk/squadrons/h29.html http://www.raf.mod.uk/squadrons/h_images/29sqntypoont1.gif Engines: Two Eurojet EJ200 turbofans Length: 47ft 7in (14.50m) Wingspan: 34ft 5in (10.50m) Top Speed: 1,321mph (2,125km/h) at 36,090ft (11,000m) Accommodation: T1 - Two pilots F1 - Pilot only http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpaper/typhoon_01_1280.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpaper/typhoon_02_1280.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpaper/typhoon_03_1280.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpaper/typhoon_04_1280.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpaper/typhoon_05_1280.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpaper/typhoon_06_1280.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpaper/typhoon_07_1280.jpg http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpaper/typhoon_08_1280.jpg centralized pandemonium October 15th, 2005, 06:30 AM If some sources are to be believed, India may soon get the Super Hornet http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-18-ef-usnhornt.jpg jd_bond October 15th, 2005, 08:18 AM If some sources are to be believed, India may soon get the Super Hornet http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-18-ef-usnhornt.jpg Well they shouldn't. F18 is not a good plane (Good on paper but in reality....) shayan October 15th, 2005, 12:24 PM Harir your language is very close to persian. You have writen O my land O my land. DOnt cry i will dry your tears and stuff didnt you. You have also said something about a war. Am i right?? andysimo123 October 15th, 2005, 10:15 PM I dont think you will see India buying many more planes after this year. They are expected to join up with Russia and create a new 5th-Generation Fighter jet. It will the next version of the Su-37 with some features of the test plane Su-47. centralized pandemonium October 16th, 2005, 05:34 AM ^^ Actually they are looking for around 126 Multi Role Combat Aircraft, to replace the Jaguars, Mig-21s and Mig-23s.Currently Superhornet, Mig-29(being marketed as improved Mig-35), Mirage-2005/9 and Jas-39 Grippen are in race. The 5th generation plane with Russia is a totally different project. I think they signed some kind of an agreement for a plane called PAK-FA, but dunno when will that PAK-FA come out :dunno:. centralized pandemonium October 16th, 2005, 05:35 AM Harir your language is very close to persian. You have writen O my land O my land. DOnt cry i will dry your tears and stuff didnt you. You have also said something about a war. Am i right?? Actually, it does have something to do with nation. Although it does not say anything about tears and all. Falcon83 October 16th, 2005, 12:54 PM ITALY MB 339 http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto7449-4.jpg Tornado (IDS, ADV etc.) http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/gallery/Images/galVel4928-6.jpg Harrier AV 8B Plus (Navy) http://www.marina.difesa.it/aeromobili/images/av8b_4.jpg AMX http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/Gallery/Images/galVel4923-2.jpg F-16 http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/DSC_0209_g.jpg Typhoon http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/UCSMA/images/fn5132-2.jpg Atlantic http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVel4930-4.jpg Predator http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/SitoAM/Images/galVelSto7446-2.jpg in the future, F-35 jsf http://www.jsf.mil/images/headers/head_leadership.jpg Quezalcoatl26 October 17th, 2005, 08:38 AM French Airforce Mirage 2000 http://digilander.libero.it/aereiemissili/images/mirage2000/M-2000-033_-5Ei.jpg http://digilander.libero.it/aereiemissili/images/mirage2000/M-2000-000.jpg Rafale http://www.avion-de-combat.com/Avion-de-combat/Dassault_Aviation_Rafale/Rafale/Dassault-rafale-004.jpg http://www.avion-de-combat.com/Avion-de-combat/Dassault_Aviation_Rafale/Rafale/Dassault-rafale-005.jpg Mirage F1 (to be retired) http://www.globalaircraft.org/photos/planephotos/MF1_1.jpg E-3 http://digilander.libero.it/aereiemissili/images/E3/E-3-032.jpg Navy air arm Super etendard modernise http://www.globalaircraft.org/photos/planephotos/setendard_4.jpg http://www.swissjet.ch/1024/Luxeuil/Flying/010702Etendard.jpg E-2 hawk eye http://frenchnavy.free.fr/ships/aircraft-carrier/charles-de-gaulle/images/cdg-023.jpg Rafale naval http://frenchnavy.free.fr/ships/aircraft-carrier/charles-de-gaulle/images/cdg-028.jpg Atlantique 2 submarine beware you are going to get pwn by this monstrosity. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/atlantique-2-2.jpg http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/atlantique/images/atlantique2.jpg helos Horizon helicopter to track enemy movement on the battlefield and provide their coordinates to the french army. Unique in the world. http://defence-data.com/storypic/horizon.jpg NH-90 http://jiatelin.jschina.com.cn/heli/gfx/nh90/nh90_1.jpg Franco-german Tiger helicopter http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2005/Jun/20050602b/000-176-263_0017_lo.jpg http://jiatelin.jschina.com.cn/heli/gfx/tiger/tiger_4.jpg Cougar & puma French helos are used all around the world. http://www.swissjet.ch/1024/Zeltweg03/Props/030602Cougar.jpg http://celag.free.fr/museum/sa330/images/330_303.jpg http://celag.free.fr/museum/sa330/images/330_303.jpg http://www.franknoort.nl/others/gfx/26092002/alp-cougar-takeoff.jpg Super frelon heavy lift helo http://www.netmarine.net/aero/aeronefs/sfrelon/photo01.jpg Panther http://www.skycontrol.net/mag/archives/200502/images/200502%20EC%20Panther%20Bulg.jpg gazelle http://www.army-technology.com/projects/hot/images/hot10.jpg http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030408/album/images/photo01.jpg http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/armygazelleb.jpg kurt November 16th, 2005, 09:12 AM hi my name is kurt and i an a new member. i love the air force. i come from queensland austrila an not so lond a go a joint austlian usa military ex just finished . i would love to show u these pic but i am not real shore how to kurt November 16th, 2005, 09:17 AM i like the hornt. i think it is a relly good jet. kurt November 16th, 2005, 09:26 AM ha! i saw some pic of some tigers and when i find out how to put pics on i will show u some pics of the new australian tigers.they have about 2 made and working at the moment.000-176-267_0013_lo kurt November 16th, 2005, 09:33 AM ha! i saw some pic of some tigers and when i find out how to put pics on i will show u some pics of the new australian tigers.they have about 2 made and working at the moment.[img]xxx[/mg] aussie2000 November 16th, 2005, 10:01 AM Shame on me, I don't even know Australia's airforce, but we have QANTAS, LOL :) (also Virgin Blue and JetStar, don't forget them) Airforce? Don't worry America pretects us, God Bless America kurt November 18th, 2005, 02:48 AM thats relly funnie man relly it is.i heard that we are getting rid of our f-18 and f111. ereck November 18th, 2005, 06:20 AM http://bbsimages.military.china.com/1011/2005/11/17/1385.jpg kurt November 19th, 2005, 09:32 AM f14288 |