the northeast has some of the best food in the world, and i would say we trounce any other areas of the country. post any places that have good food, so that we all know where to go for lunch if we are in your area.

i'll start off by saying that philly obviously has the cheesesteaks. i like pat's the most, but there are heated arguments about whether pat's, geno's, jim's or tony luke's is the best.

whenever i am in buffalo, i always like to stop by the anchor bar. you have a good chance of meeting an athlete ther, if the bills or sabres have a home game around that time. it's always nice to taste how chicken wings should be made. duff's is another place in buffalo i like to go to for wings.

as for delaware, there are planty of good sub places in wilmington. we are known throughout the country for our subs. cassapulla's in elsmere, on cassapulla ave (a few blocks from corpus christi church) is great. capriotti's is a local chain that is just as good, and is expanding across the country. i was in las vegas, and my friends and i went there for lunch. they have about 10 or 15 stores out there, as well as another 10 or so in florida. if you show them your delaware driver's license out in vegas, you get a free sub. on the wall they had awards for best sub in the city of las vegas, and have pretty much won that award every year since they moved out there in 1996. a newspaper article from the first year they won said "delaware sure knows how to make subs".

please post any other good places to eat. i know i will apppreciate any information.

Buffalo also has a sandwich known as a Beef on Weck...if you have ever had one, you know what I'm sayin.

Rochester has Zweigles hot dogs, white hots...oh yea...these are the best.

WNY Pizza is the best in the world...you can find 100's of varieties within 100 square miles

sorry but tony lukes wipes the floor with genos and pats:tongue2:

There is a restaurant called "Bennigans" located across One Charles Street building is at in Boston. They have this hamburger called the Big Irish that it is sooo big, i cant even fit it in my mouth, i have to cut it in half before i can even take a bite. It also comes with fries and the dessert is out of this world.

^^ theres a restaurant like that in new york (Manhattan) it was unbelieveable

There's this one restaraunt in Clifton Park, New York on US 9 south-bound called Red Robin, and God the chicken strips there are good. Plus the BBQ Chicken burgers are good too. Another good restaraunt which is also on US 9 (but northbound) is Malta Diner in Malta. I know none of you probably are even close to Clifton Park or Malta, but whatever.

There is a restaurant called "Bennigans" located across One Charles Street building is at in Boston. They have this hamburger called the Big Irish that it is sooo big, i cant even fit it in my mouth, i have to cut it in half before i can even take a bite. It also comes with fries and the dessert is out of this world.

we gave a couple down here too. it's a chain, but a good one at that. and i have won eagles jerseys at contests they have held there also.

Yeah Bennigans is a chain, they're at a lot of places. In DC area, I Five Guys is pretty good, Ben's Chili Bowl is another pretty good place. There are tons of good places in every city.

BOSTON:

The Pizza sucks: New York, Philly, and Providence trump it. Any population that can tolerate "Greek" Pizza, as Boston does, has lost its taste buds.

Seafood: it's great here if your a tourist from Nebraska. However, seafood is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better in the Mid Atlantic (Maryland, Virginia) or the West Coast. Even in Maine they serve you crappy frozen crud. Ironic, because a lot of North America's pre-prepared sushi is caught in Maine, prepared in Japan, and then reshipped to NA. (Strange but true!). Don't even think about eating Seafood in the North Shore or Boston...it's revolting. I'd rather go to MacDonalds. I love seafood, but I have been sick many many times from Boston seafood restaurants. Funny, that's never happened to me when I've had seafood in Chicago, New York, LA, SF, Seoul, Hong Kong, Tokyo, London, Edinburgh, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kiev, Miami, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Denver, Caracas, Jamaica, Paris, Nice, Madrid, Munich, Florence, Barcelona, Toronto, Montreal...yeah, and I've had seafood in Nashville and Upstate New York too...you get the picture. :) Why? Because, frankly, Boston eateries stink. Just look at the bathrooms in supposedly "classy" joints, and you'll know why the food ain't so hot.

As for the rest of New England cooking, Mayonnaise is considered a spice, and the fusion food can be found as good or better in any major US city.

Also, there is no indigenous food to the area, as much as the working class Italians and Irish pretend that their food comes from New England.

You're right about the mayo being a spice thing. What about clam chowder, that's probably european right, or is it indigenous to NE?

BOSTON:

The Pizza sucks: New York, Philly, and Providence trump it. Any population that can tolerate "Greek" Pizza, as Boston does, has lost its taste buds.

Seafood: it's great here if your a tourist from Nebraska. However, seafood is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better in the Mid Atlantic (Maryland, Virginia) or the West Coast. Even in Maine they serve you crappy frozen crud. Ironic, because a lot of North America's pre-prepared sushi is caught in Maine, prepared in Japan, and then reshipped to NA. (Strange but true!). Don't even think about eating Seafood in the North Shore or Boston...it's revolting. I'd rather go to MacDonalds. I love seafood, but I have been sick many many times from Boston seafood restaurants. Funny, that's never happened to me when I've had seafood in Chicago, New York, LA, SF, Seoul, Hong Kong, Tokyo, London, Edinburgh, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kiev, Miami, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Denver, Caracas, Jamaica, Paris, Nice, Madrid, Munich, Florence, Barcelona, Toronto, Montreal...yeah, and I've had seafood in Nashville and Upstate New York too...you get the picture. :) Why? Because, frankly, Boston eateries stink. Just look at the bathrooms in supposedly "classy" joints, and you'll know why the food ain't so hot.

As for the rest of New England cooking, Mayonnaise is considered a spice, and the fusion food can be found as good or better in any major US city.

Also, there is no indigenous food to the area, as much as the working class Italians and Irish pretend that their food comes from New England.

Boston doesnt suck. Maybe you dont know where to find good restaurant. I live here so i kno. Boston is pretty good and never had an experience like that. Maybe you just not used to Boston's or Maine's food bcuz it is the true seafood areas. The northeast is not just about Seafood. Checkout the Irish pubs here. It is really good. Try going to Cape Cod next time because that is where the best seafood in Massachusetts are. The post you put is nothing but insult to Boston. Unless Boston is your town (which does not seem to be the case) post the good things in the city. Thats what dis thread is about and not about insulting a city.

I've lived in Boston all my life, and I've been to the best and worst that Boston has to offer. How can this seriously be a discussion of food when you guys are talking about burger joints and Irish Pubs! I've been to the best Irish Pubs in NE for food...that stuff just isn't that good (or good for you). BTW, the Tigin in Stamford Conn (which is a small chain) has way better Irish food than any I've had in Boston.

I'm bringing a lot more experience with food to the table than you guys are...I'm slamming Boston because I know better. You can get just as good or better food anywhere else. Don't be so provinicial. To say something positive, Boston has very good Indian food, good Brazilian/Portugese, good Tapas, and some great food that's hard to find (there's excellent Afghani in Kendall Square Cambridge and great Bosnian in Teele Square Somerville, for example).

And yes, the seafood restaurants in Maine, New Hampshire, North Shore AND Cape Cod really suck. Go down south or on the west coast to see how seafood ought to be prepared.

I can't believe I'm arguing with a bunch of kids. 'bye.

as for delaware, there are planty of good sub places in wilmington. we are known throughout the country for our subs. cassapulla's in elsmere, on cassapulla ave (a few blocks from corpus christi church) is great. capriotti's is a local chain that is just as good, and is expanding across the country. i was in las vegas, and my friends and i went there for lunch. they have about 10 or 15 stores out there, as well as another 10 or so in florida. if you show them your delaware driver's license out in vegas, you get a free sub. on the wall they had awards for best sub in the city of las vegas, and have pretty much won that award every year since they moved out there in 1996. a newspaper article from the first year they won said "delaware sure knows how to make subs".

I vote for Capriotti's over Casapullas.. but only by a little bit :)

fighting over the food in Boston...good thing I'm in the Buffalo Metro (we got the best)

I've lived in Boston all my life, and I've been to the best and worst that Boston has to offer. How can this seriously be a discussion of food when you guys are talking about burger joints and Irish Pubs! I've been to the best Irish Pubs in NE for food...that stuff just isn't that good (or good for you). BTW, the Tigin in Stamford Conn (which is a small chain) has way better Irish food than any I've had in Boston.

I'm bringing a lot more experience with food to the table than you guys are...I'm slamming Boston because I know better. You can get just as good or better food anywhere else. Don't be so provinicial. To say something positive, Boston has very good Indian food, good Brazilian/Portugese, good Tapas, and some great food that's hard to find (there's excellent Afghani in Kendall Square Cambridge and great Bosnian in Teele Square Somerville, for example).

And yes, the seafood restaurants in Maine, New Hampshire, North Shore AND Cape Cod really suck. Go down south or on the west coast to see how seafood ought to be prepared.

I can't believe I'm arguing with a bunch of kids. 'bye.

Yes you can "slam" Boston's food but this is not the thread. It says good food in your town or area. It does not say "does the food in your town suck or not."

There are all kinds of extraoridnary restuarants in Philly, many of which are owned by the great Stephen Starr. Philly has costantly been named the msot underrated restarurant city in the country. It is also considered by many to be one of, if not the, best restaruant cities in the country. It's all a matter of visiting the city first...

Oh yeah, and you can't leave out the great fastfoods of Philly: Cheesesteaks (as mentioned above), Pretzels, Hoagies, Steaks (cheesesteaks minus the cheese), Water Ice, and tons of other good shit that I forget what it's called.

Yes you can "slam" Boston's food but this is not the thread. It says good food in your town or area. It does not say "does the food in your town suck or not."

I ended up posting more real good eating advice for my area than you did. Irish and Bennigan's? Yuck. Positively Yucky.

Considering the "Delaware Sub" start of this thread, it should have read "good junk food in your town or area". For crying out loud, I can make a great sub...is that some sort of acheivement? It's like about as impressive as "Best Popsicle" or "Best Bowl of Grits" (which is in some ways, more impressive than a sub...it takes no effort to make a freakin' great sub...I've seen all kinds of counter jockeys all over the country make 'em. Even in Delaware. Sheesh.)

I decided to slam Boston just to temper the initial outlandish idea that the Northeast trumped the rest of the country for cuisine...which it does NOT (outside of New York and Philly).

Which is more arrogant: saying that Boston food sucks (which I know is true from experiencing the food of other areas) or boldly putting forth the idea that northeastern food is the best and citing Delaware Subs, Irish Pub food, and Bennigans as an example????

Pass the rolaids...

I can't believe I'm arguing with a bunch of kids.

:rofl:

As is often the case in these forums...

I recommend the following restaurants in the eastern Montgomery Co., PA area.

Aztecan, Mayan: Tamarindos, Ambler, PA
Indian: Jaipur, King of Prussia, PA
Iranian: Persian Grill, Lafayette Hill, PA
Italian: Totaro's, Conshohocken, PA
Thai: Thai Orchid, Blue Bell, PA

Delaware Sub.... Have you eaten them? Show me what tasteless subs/steaks your area makes, and we can talk. Northern Delaware (Wilmington) has an incredible food culture you definitely shouldn't knock.. Our nightlife sucks.. but definitely not our food.

Does your locale draw people back from California to package and ship 10 hoagies?

What family food institution goes 2500 miles away to Las Vegas and gets "best sub/hoagie awards" from the city of Las Vegas?

Show me a Seafood place in your city which has walls with hundreds of signatures from big celebs who went distances just to break open a few crabs.

This city happens to have a measly 80,000 in population. Don't knock it 'till you've tried it.

Considering the "Delaware Sub" start of this thread, it should have read "good junk food in your town or area". For crying out loud, I can make a great sub...is that some sort of acheivement? It's like about as impressive as "Best Popsicle" or "Best Bowl of Grits" (which is in some ways, more impressive than a sub...it takes no effort to make a freakin' great sub...I've seen all kinds of counter jockeys all over the country make 'em. Even in Delaware. Sheesh.)


come down here and open up a sub shop then. i would like to see what you can do. if your subs are so good you should be able to make a nice profit from them.

In New Brunswick, New Jersey it's all about theGREASE TRUCKS (http://hthse.com/wordpress/index.php?p=25)

Boston seafood sucks? What the hell? I've had the best scallops I've ever tasted in Boston (and don't get me started on the lovely lobster lunches in Maine). And the Italian places in Boston, they are great. New England food can be wonderful if done right (and my Grandmother sure did it right).

That being said, New England cannot do pizza. The worst pizza I ever had was in New Hampshire (I shudder even thinking about that stuff), and this isn't Chicago boosterism either, I love New York Pizza too. But hell will freeze over before I agree to eat pizza in my Uncle's town again ;)

I ended up posting more real good eating advice for my area than you did. Irish and Bennigan's? Yuck. Positively Yucky.

Considering the "Delaware Sub" start of this thread, it should have read "good junk food in your town or area". For crying out loud, I can make a great sub...is that some sort of acheivement? It's like about as impressive as "Best Popsicle" or "Best Bowl of Grits" (which is in some ways, more impressive than a sub...it takes no effort to make a freakin' great sub...I've seen all kinds of counter jockeys all over the country make 'em. Even in Delaware. Sheesh.)

I decided to slam Boston just to temper the initial outlandish idea that the Northeast trumped the rest of the country for cuisine...which it does NOT (outside of New York and Philly).

Which is more arrogant: saying that Boston food sucks (which I know is true from experiencing the food of other areas) or boldly putting forth the idea that northeastern food is the best and citing Delaware Subs, Irish Pub food, and Bennigans as an example????

Pass the rolaids...

I'm surprised that you even live in Boston. It must sucks to be you never ever finding a good place to eat. Where did you get the idea that Northeast trumped the rest of the country? I guess some people (obviously you) dont like the food in Boston. However it may just be your taste. Just bcuz you dont like it doesnt mean it sucks. Most people living in Boston agree that seafood here is great. Toruists from around the nation loves to eat seafood here. Right now you are just looking at the bad side of Boston. However you never once mention anything good about Boston which surprises me that you actually live here. I love all the seafood meals here. They taste really good to me. Also, even some people who posted on this forum agree that Bennigans is good. And I strongly believe that your sub wont be great. Because like you in ur opinion of Boston's food, I think it would suck.

Dark FenX,
1.) According to you, Bostonians like Bostonian seafood, and tourists from around the nation love to eat seafood here. That's irrelevant in an argument of comparative merit...I've had consitently better seafood in the South and on the West Coast and in Europe. Sorry. It's true. If somebody from the south, west coast, or a mediterranean country wants to laud Boston seafood...than that's different.
2.) I mentioned some very good restaraunts in the Boston area. Most of them are in the Cambridge/Somerville region. Boston places aren't so great...and I've been in the "best" in both Newbury Street and the South End.
3.) I've had much better Italian food in many places of SE Conn, Providence, San Fran, Philly, and Baltimore than in the overrated Little Italy of Boston, for example.
4.) Bennigans isn't good. Not even above average.
5.) My subs would suck? At least I know to use the correct vendors like Boar's Head, whereas the average Boston sub shop doesn't know how to do it right. In Cambridge and Somerville, however, they do use quality suppliers like Boar's Head.

Also, dining has much to do with the experience, the ambience...so while there are places like Olives and Radius that offer high quality food in Boston, the experience is unsatisfying, or "meh"....I'd rather eat at Gargoyle's in Davis Sq. Somerville than anyplace in Boston (they have a better wine list too.)

Really...go to San Fransisco, go to New York, San Diego, Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Philadelphia, Miami and even Baltimore and Atlanta - sample the best that those cities have to offer, and then come back and tell me that Boston has superior food. Tell me that Boston has superior seafood or Italian! Because it simply does not.

Okay, maybe Boston is better than Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Detroit, and Phoenix. But so what???

BTW, you wrote: "Just bcuz you dont like it doesnt mean it sucks"
but conversely, "Just BECAUSE you do like it, that DOESN'T mean it's good".

BTW, you wrote: "Just bcuz you dont like it doesnt mean it sucks"
but conversely, "Just BECAUSE you do like it, that DOESN'T mean it's good".

Wow U really care about spelling. I did on purpose BCUZ i DONT wanna spell the whole thing out. And nope i meant that doesnt mean it sucks instead of the one you posted.

Look up the definition of "conversely."

I think you just nullified your own argument right there.

Look up the definition of "conversely."

I think you just nullified your own argument right there.

Yes, you're right. I used the word incorrectly, and it doesn't express what I was trying to write. Replace "but conversely" with "however" and what I wrote makes sense.

The last sentence of DarkFenx's last post doesn't make any sense to me at all, because I quoted him directly.

Yes, you're right. I used the word incorrectly, and it doesn't express what I was trying to write. Replace "but conversely" with "however" and what I wrote makes sense.

The last sentence of DarkFenx's last post doesn't make any sense to me at all, because I quoted him directly.

It didnt make sense bcuz i didnt kno what you meant when you used conversely. IF you used it right i wouldnt have post the last sentence.

Ok im going to drop the subject bcuz there is really no point in argueing anymor.

if you are in the mood for classy food in wilmington, make sure you go to cafe napoli on kirkwood highway. the food is very good, and they give large proportions. if you order the parmesean chicken you get two full chicken breasts, maybe around 1.5 lbs of meat. the prices are very good for the quality of the food. lastly, the guys that run the store emmigrated from naples (hence the name cafe napoli), and so the food is the real thing.

Yes, you're right. I used the word incorrectly, and it doesn't express what I was trying to write. Replace "but conversely" with "however" and what I wrote makes sense.

The last sentence of DarkFenx's last post doesn't make any sense to me at all, because I quoted him directly.

No, it was directed at DarkFenx. I had no problem with your usage of the word, but I did with the fact that Fenx completely missed the point of that sentence.

And Fenx don't make some stupid argument about him making an error, because you obviously didn't read his post carefully enough. You thought he was talking about spelling, which he wasn't.


Yeah, anyways.....

Washington. Great food. Although I guess any world class city does.

I am a little disappointed with the food in Baltimore, but what're you gonna do?

B'more has some good food, not the greatest, there are a few pretty good seafood spots I will look them up, same in Annapolis. DC has a pretty good seafood market area where a fusion of a whole bunch of styles of seafood can be found, it's pretty good. But yeah, most large cities have good food, I really loved the food in Chicago, I can't say enough about NYC either, I dont know much about west coast food. Seattle seems like they may be able to do fish right.

if anyone is ever driving on route 1 to the delaware beaches, you can make a stop in smyrna and go to helen's sausage house for some great-tasting and unhealthy food. the signature item on the menu is the "2 on 1": two 6 inch sausages on one roll. other items include a scrapple sandwich and a pork chop sandwich.

an article from the news journal:

A full day's allowance of saturated fat was reserved for this visit to Helen's Sausage House, where the "two-on-one" - two deep-fried, 6-inch lengths of sausage served on a single roll - is far and away the most popular item.

Fifty cents worth of fried onions and green peppers rounded out the cost to $3.85. After putting away the sandwich during the ride back to the office, a first-time customer understood where Gourmet magazine was coming from in 2001 when it named Helen's - housed in a white frame building with a pink pig on the roof just off U.S. 13 north of Smyrna - as one of its 100 favorite places to eat.

The "two-on-one" - the magazine's representatives scarfed down several, proprietor Helen Achenbach said - is worthy of testimonials to the restaurant and Kirby & Holloway, its meat supplier.

"Every time I come past this place I have to stop," said William Wiggins, of Middletown, who says he's been a Helen's fan for 20 years or better.

Rich Turner, 40, figures he drives down from Townsend a couple of times a month to indulge an abiding sausage hankering. He was accompanied on this visit by his son, Chuck, 11, and his daughter, Casey, 10.

"The sausage - it's the best around," he gushed. "I just love sausage."

Helen took over the restaurant 20 years ago from her daughter and son-in-law, Diane and William Phillips. It was already called Helen's Sausage House, and Helen gave no thought to changing the name in deference to what some cardiologists and nutritionists still see as an ongoing cholesterol and saturated fat problem.

"We take all of that out," she said with a wink.

The scrapple sub ($5.50), a relatively recent addition to an expansive menu, signals no apparent concessions to heart-conscious calorie counters. Neither does the jumbo pork chop sandwich, which at $4, features a meat-beyond-bread overhang of several inches at both ends.

Helen's decor has been described as kitschy, largely because of the Elvis Presley photos that cover the walls of the main dining area. No apologies there, either.

"I'm an Elvis fan," she says, recalling fond moments once passed at an Elvis concert in Philadelphia.

Helen, a New Castle native, says the notice in Gourmet was nice, but adds that her restaurant had received interstate notice before that blurb was published. She recalls folks speaking fondly of "Helen's Famous" as she and her husband - Melvin "Mudge" Achenbach, whom she lost on New Year's Day of 2000 - vacationed in South Carolina and West Virginia.

She and her eight employees open the restaurant at 4 a.m. Monday through Saturday as a gesture to long-haul truckers, whom she credits largely for word-of-mouth that put her restaurant on the national map.

"We get lots of truckers, but we get lawyers, doctors and nurses, too," she said.

Helen figures she can shoehorn about 25 customers into the dining area. She would love to expand, but she's not sure how her customers would react to the loss of sausage-scarfing time to a construction project.

She'll tell you that she lives near Smyrna, but withholds more specific information lest she be besieged at nonwaking hours by customers in need of sausage fixes.

"I already have them come knocking on the door saying, 'Can you open up so I can get some sausage?' "


http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/business/2005/03/29gourmandslovehe.html

and some pictures:

http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/business/2005/03/images/146160.jpg

http://www.roadfood.com/photos/mini_1266.jpg

I dunno, the main reason I probably might not ever leave the Northeast is the good Italian Food. My small town has like 10 pizza joints + 4 chains. (I also might not leave the Lehigh Valley for A-Treat cream soda...abut thats not a restaraunt so who cares). Their is this place called shorties somewhere near the northwest PA, NY border (not shure which side) that has the best Pasta in the world for osme reason. Overall Philly has tons of great places to eat, Allentown does too if you try hard enough.

bumping an old thread with some new information:

fhm will have an article on food in their june edition. among things they talk about, they list 8 subs or sandwiches from around the country that they recommend. among these 8 sandwiches and subs is one from capriotti's here in delaware. while all their subs are good, fhm decided to showcase the "bobbie", which has been called "thanksgiving dinner on a roll". it has turkey, cranberry sauce, stuffing and other stuff on it.

i'll be looking for an online version of the article when it comes out. maybe some other northeast subs will also be on the list.

Be careful xzmattzx. You blaspheme. with this "sub-talk".

Youre not in NY. You're too close to Philly

The one thing Wilmington never copied from Philly: Hoagie.

WOW how can no one from rochester Mention this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/GarbagePlate006.jpg

Best when eaten Drunk BTW


But the Food that makes Syracuse famous is Dinoursour BBQ, Hoffman hot Dogs, and The Best Pizza in town, Twin Trees.

^I didn't know people ate Diarrhea :/

WOW how can no one from rochester Mention this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/GarbagePlate006.jpg

Best when eaten Drunk BTW


But the Food that makes Syracuse famous is Dinoursour BBQ, Hoffman hot Dogs, and The Best Pizza in town, Twin Trees.

what is that?

Belongs in the toilet if you ask me. You would HAVE to be drunk to eat that.

didnt your mothers ever tell you not to judge a book by its cover. But i cannot explain the nuances of the "garbage" plate or more commonly called A Hot Plate, that is for Rochestarians to do.

i'm not personally ripping it, i will save my judgement for when i try it. but what is it? i can't identify any type of food on that plate.

everything in WNY will give you the shitz, if it aint the food...it's the girls.

both taste good.

heh I was just phukin around guys.. I'm sure it's great.

I have to agree with SLA. Benny's and subs are not great food...well maybe to teenagers. I've had my best lobster in Miami. I do think the northeast has so many places to choose from within 250 miles from DC to NY. No other place in the country has that many people, and so many big cities so close.

Other parts of the country have their own specials. Gumbo in Orleans, brats in Chitown, BBQ in midwest, hot dogs in San Fran. Personally, I've had my best potato nowhere near Idaho.

Point is...it really depends on who prepares the grub. And most chefs are located in areas outside their origin.

But lets ease up on the "subs are good food" talk.

Anywho, The Nightshift in Baltimore serves the best areolas within 60 miles.