NAME: BAB-E-PAKISTAN
TYPE: Monument
CONSTRUCTION START: March 23, 2005
CONSTRUCTION END: September, 2007
LOCATION: Near Walton Road, Lahore
COST: Rs 400 million


The design of Bab-e-Pakistan would be reflective of national identity, Islamic history and the epic struggle of Muslims of the Sub-continent for the achievement of independence. The monument is being constructed at the place where the first refugee camp was set up at Walton in Lahore on August 14, 1947. Bab-e-Pakistan project would help us remember the sacrifice made by Muslims during Independence. the monument would be a masterpiece of Islamic architecture.



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Beauty!
President has shown a personal interest in this project and hopefully it will be ready by sep 2007

This'll bring down the poverty rate manifolds!!!

well it will generate economic activities which will help reduce poverty..... the brighter side of the picture :)

Wait one minute!

Wern't they suppose to build this in Islamabad?

Nope! It is in Lahore.
It was always planned to be built on the place where people got the first refuge when they migrated from India in 1947. That is why you will see all those white camps like things on the pics which symbolises camps of that time.

I think they should have picked a better place to build it...Lahore already has its fair share of tourists, and this monument won't really make as much of an impact as it would in an area that receives less tourists, such as ISlamabad.

The alternate theory is that if tourists already go to a city like lahore then maximise that cities potential by building stuff like this over there. The site is an historic one because of the first refugee camp being built there ... and therefore that cant just be shifted to Islamabad IMO. Mind you on the other hand I can see the greenery, water and architecture of this project fitting in so perfectly with Islamabads green surroundings !!

Absolutely beautiful.

Amazing looking!

put it in Lahore its desperatly needs more greenry

Wait one minute!

Wern't they suppose to build this in Islamabad?

that's a different monument you're talking about... and with a nice design too! I saw its design somewhere, can't recall where... it had flower shaped structure in the middle with petals and stuff.

Yeah but .. Bab-E-Pakistan .. Babe Pakistan?!

J/K

there are some really good monuments coming up.

check out http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/ and click monuments.

I think it should be built on the grounds opposite the Mazar-e-Quaid in Karachi... that city has the most immigrant community and also, the only patriotic monument in Karachi is the lonely Mazar-e-Quaid. Also, since Karachi bore the brunt after the migrations from the separated India, it would be more deserving there.
Also, the design would have looked better if instead of whitewashed concrete they had used red sandstone like the Badshahi-Mosque or Yellow Sandstone like the colonial buildings in Karachi.

May be Govt of Sindh can built one in Karachi too......!!!

yeah, good idea... since both of these cities were key players after the partition, I think both of them should have befitting monuments!

Bab-e-pakistan is an excellent project, it was around the cornor for quite somtime but partly due to unavailability of funds and more often lack of commitment, the construction did not started. I have a sentimental attachment to this project as my grandfather along with his family and relatives migrated from Indian Punjab (Gurdaspur, to be precise) to Pakistan (few were died or killed in that migration) and the first relief camp they arrived at, is now the construction site for Bab-e-Pakistan. I will give you guys updates and pictures of the construction work as I live very near to the consteuction site in Walton, Lahore, after march 23, 2005 as it is the proposed starting date for construction.

Are Statue's allowed in Islam? Im a bit confused regarding that, and if they are indeed allowed then we cant' we have a statue of Jinnah somewhere near the Mazar.

well we have pictures of Mr. Jinnah already all over the place... a statue would be just as iconic as a picture

Thats a good point actually, there isnt really a statue of the Quaid anywhere, he certainly deserves one. Perhaps this could be built in Karachi.

Yeah definately, maybe a park right opposite of the Mazar with his Statue!

ISLAM has nothing to do with government affairs so let them make a statue infact make it the largest statue!

and then lol when the americans come to invade us they will think they are liberating us from the quaid and infact they will be making civilians angry LOL

ok that was weird and random btw

Yes that was a bit retarded.

Lol

any picture or structure resembling a human or an animal is not allowed in islam.

really you say so?

so i guess the arab Saddam went against Islam


i am not sure about animals because pics of animals or humans are all over lol yaar thats just for Maulvis yaar i remember a maulvi that used to come to my house and i put all the pictures in the house and all this crap on the table in front of him and he got so pissed!

OHHH B AHAHAHA

Well PakistanUnited with all your due respect.....It is difficult to take your interpretation of Islam as a guide and which is mostly start with "I think...." or " I guess......". And most importantly you donot have the qualification or prerequisite to pass any judgement on Islam.....Just like to operate a patient you need to have a medical qualification as a prerequisite...!!
It would be nice if you can also give some evidence or at least a solid argument SOMETIMES instead of just abuse or just opinions...lol

Before we turn this thread to a discussion of religion and fiqh and morality and whatnot, lets get back to the topic. What we were deliberating on, is that a monument of similar magnitude as the Bab-e-Pakistan is needed for the City of Karachi which also played a humongous part in the days of Partition. Actually, still is playing a huge part. We can't ignore one major city for the same purpose while honoring another.

i dont need proof its common sense!


we watch TV we have pictures of people on the wall we take pictures of humans and hell we even make statues in some countries(arab) what are forums for? they are to voice opinions!

I think we need of a statue of Jinnah waving and with nice smile like disney world LOL

LAHORE: "Bab-e-Pakistan project will recreate for our young generation, the spirit and patriotic zeal that ignited the freedom struggle among the Muslims of the sub-continent at the time of independence," stated Punjab Co-operatives Minister, Colonel Malik Muhammad Anwar (Retd). Foundation ceremony of the said project will be held on March 23. Talking to a delegation of senior citizens here Saturday, he said that design of Bab-e-Pakistan would reflect Pakistan's identity and the people's long political struggle for the country's independence.

The project, to be spread over 110 acres, will mirror the cultural heritage of all the provinces of Pakistan, and will consist of a national monument ,parks and a library with books on Pakistan movement and various aspects of national history.

He said the first phase of the project will be completed at a cost of Rs 800 million, adding that completion of project within the scheduled period of two and half years would be ensured, said a handout

some times i think PAkistan united you talk soo much..
I agree theres no statue's or like these things allowed in islam but there are many we see it in t.v in pictures like u said.. and even long metal fake statue gaurds in front of the house.. I agree they should make statue of Jinnah but Not like u said make him smiling like disney world or something.. :weirdo:
He was our founder soo.. We need to if we make his statue in the honuor and respect like the sitting in chair with PAkistan flag beside him .. or something like the president statues in washington..
You really need to think its no joke..

Karachi Hero you always make those polls in international section comparing us to cities that are well known and at the same time you provide no info about Pakistan to promote it ... leaving us open to bashing.

and faith is mostly opinionated because look we have our fundo's moderates and our secularites all different ways to follow the faith.

Zees and PU, please calm down and move back to topic, youve both made your point so now any further posts that are not related to the topic will be promptly deleted. Thanks.

me.........calm down.......for what

has this been completed? anyone have pictures?

I hope they won't build this.

The need of hour is to follow his principles rather than making statues.

I hope they won't build this.

The need of hour is to follow his principles rather than making statues.

Man dont you ever get freaking tired?

I hope they won't build this.

The need of hour is to follow his principles rather than making statues.
The need of the hour is the END OF....

SENSATIONALISM
CONSPIRACY THEORIES
EMOTIONAL REACTIONS
ILLOGICAL THOUGHT PROCESSES

and other crap that Pakistani's love to spew out of their ass.

Man dont you ever get freaking tired?

Nop :lol:


The need of the hour is the END OF....

SENSATIONALISM
CONSPIRACY THEORIES
EMOTIONAL REACTIONS
ILLOGICAL THOUGHT PROCESSES

and other crap that Pakistani's love to spew out of their ass.

Agree with you so don't become emotional. It was just my personal opinion. No emotional reaction.

Quaid-e-Azam is a founder of Pakistan. All of us think that construction of Bab-e-Pakistan would be a good tribute to his good work. I have no doubt it’s a good thinking but have we ever payed attention to his principles. Jinnah stood for "ordered progress", moderation, gradualism and constitutionalism. Seriously we need to ask ourselves these questions? That was the only motivation behind my thoughts nothing else. Pictures could be hanged any where. Even we have picture in over national assembly too and then all corrupt leaders do corruption right under his picture. Corruption wise we stand at number 7 in the world. We only need to think?

Any way I am not against the construction of his statue. He deserved one but it would be great if we can construct some kind of unique historical buiding which protrays his good work.

Nop :lol:




Agree with you so don't become emotional. It was just my personal opinion. No emotional reaction.

Quaid-e-Azam is a founder of Pakistan. All of us think that construction of Bab-e-Pakistan would be a good tribute to his good work. I have no doubt it’s a good thinking but have we ever payed attention to his principles. Jinnah stood for "ordered progress", moderation, gradualism and constitutionalism. Seriously we need to ask ourselves these questions? That was the only motivation behind my thoughts nothing else. Pictures could be hanged any where. Even we have picture in over national assembly too and then all corrupt leaders do corruption right under his picture. Corruption wise we stand at number 7 in the world. We only need to think?

Actually we're better than 38 countries, equal to 4 other countries and worse then the rest. The 2007 Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index (http://www.infoplease.com/world/statistics/2007-transparency-international-corruption-perceptions.html)

i say this is a good development which would give an uplift to the area with software park being made there is well, this can become another potential commerical district which could generate alot of revenue. they should just get rid of the sabzi mandi, and build a new state of the art one somewhere in johar town and use that land for another big real estate project or expansion of software house

yes, agreed that the project will be an interesting addition.....BUT whats the completion date now? Has it even started?

Agree with you so don't become emotional

There was nothing emotional about my STATEMENT.:)

completion date is september 2008

Do you think they will be able to complete it till Sep 2008???

LAHORE, Aug 20: The deadline for the completion of the historic Bab-i-Pakistan project, a monument being built in the memory of hundreds of thousands of Muslims who came here from India after partition in 1947, has been extended to six months or so.
Conceived some 23 years ago, the project on Walton Road kicked off in November 2006 with a target period of 30 months for its completion.

“Sixty per cent of the work has been completed, but improvement in design and its overall layout has necessitated extension in the deadline for another six months or so,” Bab-i-Pakistan Project Director Brig Asif Murad told Dawn on Wednesday.

He said raising of the adjacent Walton Road level forced the project builders to review its design accordingly. Besides the monument, he said, a library, an auditorium, an art gallery, a jogging track, six bara daris, a number of fountains, two high schools and a picturesque landscape had been developed on 103 acres. The construction of high schools for boys and girls would begin this month.

Brig Asif said the Punjab government had allocated Rs2.5 billion for the whole project while the Project Steering Board, headed by the Lahore Corps Commander, is implementing it. The Pak Army Engineering chief was monitoring the project and the army engineering was also giving its input, he added.

He said after completion of the project, it would be given under the administrative control of the provincial government’s information and culture department.

Answering a question, he said top-quality material tested by laboratories of international standards was being used in the construction. He said Hasnain Cotex was awarded the contract of construction for being the lowest bidder and Nespak, too, was giving its valuable advice.

The Bab-i-Pakistan project will be the biggest monument of the country. According to Brig Asif, a presidential directive was issued in 1985 regarding its construction. More than 700,000 refugees had gathered at this point (the largest refugee camp) and it was also visited by Quaid-i-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Mohtarma Fatima Jinnah.

Former Punjab chief minister, the late Ghulam Haider Wyne, whose family members were among the refugees, announced the construction of the monument in 1992 to pay homage to the people who lost their lives and property during the Independence Movement.

Nawaz Sharif, the then prime minister, laid foundation stone the same year.The proposed project was, however, put on the backburner till former president Pervez Musharraf ordered its revival in early 2000 and performed the ground-breaking of the project in 2005. Musharraf in his last speech to the nation as president had claimed credit for launching the project.

There were an army unit, a police post, two schools, scouts camp and a katchi abadi on about 50 acres of (103-acre) land. The government, however, managed to retrieve it from them.

The two high schools for boys and girls and scouts camp have been functioning in the vicinity of the Bab-i-Pakistan.


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Source: Dawn E-Paper

I think Mushy spoke about this project in his last speech.

Hopefully it will be completed within a year.

I think Mushy spoke about this project in his last speech.

Hopefully it will be completed within a year.

Yes he did :no:

where is the site?

Walton Cantt Lahore

how pathatic are the contractors in paksitan. this has been in the pipeline for 23 yeras and still only 60% completed. Compare this with NCA in islamabad that took 28 years to be completed. God help us all.

Look at our persistency and dedication :lol: we dont give up.

come on man cheers. lets pray for a good leader.
well about NCA i have never seen a single NCA student who is in favor of another campus. same with teachers. they say that isloo campus should be given a different name, Lahore campus has a rich history and bla bla bla...

^^ yeah a good leader rather than a feeder. We need someone Like the man on your avatar.