Name: VUE DE LAC (Lake View in French)
Location: JLT, Plot K3
Floors: 40 (From the render: 37 + G + M)
Use: Residential, Studio - 1 - 2 & 3 bedrooms
Height: ??
Developer: Ahmad A. Rahim Al Attar Properties

http://207.44.228.232/photopost/data//500/2Vue_De_Lac.jpg

This tower was on today's Gulf News. I'll add the scan later on today or as early as tomorrow morning. On the newspaper add they had given the contacts of the developer but in their web site (www.alattargroup.com) the tower was not mentioned.

Finance available from Tamweel

Interesting thing: They were showing the location on the JLT, which corresponded to plot K3, that in our map result to have Pacific Tower from 32Group. The plot K3 is directly facing Al Mas Tower.

The tower is concrete + glass, it had 4 sections and a triangle roof ornament with a small spire at the top.

nice, but the thing with plot K3 is confusing
now that it is in today's papers it may be launched tomorrow anyway :dunno:
when we have some contractors i will contact them

the name should be "Vue du lac"

the name should be "Vue du lac"

oui, c'est vrai parce que le mot "lac" est masculin
vue de le lac fait vue du lac :D

je vais changer le titre, mais ce que m'intéresse est si le gulfnews a écrit "de"

oui, c'est vrai parce que le mot "lac" est masculin
vue de le lac fait vue du lac :D

je vais changer le titre, mais ce que m'intéresse est si le gulfnews a écrit "de"

C’est pas vrai tu parle le française aussi. Si je ne me trompe pas en Allemagne le française est une langue obligatoire dans l’école.

Sur les sites suivant http://www.lochnessview.com/french/tariff.html
http://www.pacificvietnam.com/fr.hotels/hanoi/heritage/index-27.html

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lycee.noailles/queb11.htm

ils parlent aussi "de La Vue de Lac" :cheers:

C’est pas vrai tu parle française aussi. Si je ne me trompe pas en Allemagne le française est une langue obligatoire dans l’école.

non, mais tu as quelques possibilités de choisir entre l'espagnol et le francais ;) moi, j'ai choisi le francais, mais je veux apprendre un peu d'espagnol un jour. merde, j'ai choisi le latin, mais c'était très utile pour apprendre les mots francais et anglais!!!

anyway, back to topic :lol:

altin, render please!!! ;)

Im guessing 100-130m ?

that little even with roof feature

it should be more than 140m, definitely

i say 165...
boring tower indeed, as far as you can guess from the renders...
even for jlt ...

these towers all look the same to me, give us more variety, not a different facade with a few curves here and there, quality not quantity.

i just contacted them for height and what's up with the plots
maybe 32group changed the plot for pacific tower and sold it to al attar :dunno:

hopefully they reply!

Ill add tower now minus the plot number till be know more

Im definitely starting to prefer Dubai Marina towers to JLT towers. Lately all the JLT towers released suck.

i preferred The Marina since the beginning actually...
there were less nice towers in JL, though they are all not bad, but nothing special.

does it suck? no
it's not unique, but a simple and nice design though

my god!
this tower does suck, its horrible
and what a horrid horrid name.

its put me off my cornflakes!

vue du lac or whatever is horrible i hate france names... but well the tower is not nice , even for jlt i think...
have to wait for better renders...

someones gonna have to do a pretty spectacular render to make that tower look good!

i contacted the developer al attar group and they replied immediately :okay:

------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Dennis

I refer to your e-mail enquiring as to who is the rightful owner of the
above plot.

Ahmad A. Rahim Al Attar purchased this plot from Dubai Metals and
Commodities Centre on 11 July 2004. Mr Al Attar is the current developer of
K3/Vue De Lac.

I trust the above clarifies your query.

----------------------------------------------------------------

this definitely means 32group has lost its plot for pacific tower
i try to contact them, but we all know they are lazy bastards

lazy bastards... dennis... :rant: :no:
i would say they are only doing what is needed, and nothing more :) :cheers:

whats wrong with being a lazy bastard?

i pride myself upon mylack of acheving

:D :D :D :D :cheers:

Some info here:
www.ireuae.com/Vue_De_Lac/vue_de_lac.asp

why the heck can't they just put a normal render in there? :ohno:

just a split render grrrr

candian consultants: no result on google, yahoo

J'adore le nom, (Vue du lac) hahahaha :D maintenant on va devoir ajouter les EAU au pays participante de la francophonie :D

err...
Bonjour. j'habite danns le patinoire, avec la poisson rouge!

finally a fullsize render

they should have used another facade. this white stripes around the balconies make the tower look bad

http://207.44.228.232/photopost/data//500/2Vue_De_Lac.jpg

Yuk, that is hidious and is killing the great buildings that are at JLT. This is typicxal of the architecture that that British architect was refering too and I agree

dennis have you contacted them for a height????

yes, but they didn't reply
will do it oncemore and ask for global point as well
both towers are developed by al attar group

what is that weird roof feature with that semicircle over the topfloor...,looks like they didn't finish the rendering...

maybe a recreation deck under a glass dome or something
and what is the huge spire for?

yeah, this construction looks really weird...
freaky guys i would say..

is there anyone one out there that has invested in Vue De Lac tower or any others my wife and i have just bought a two bed in vue de lac, anyone with any advise on buying in dubai

So Al Attar has all the three plots on the K - cluster. We have to see if all of the towers will be identical.

We have another thread for "Vista De Lago" on plot K1, which also means "lake view" in Spanish (Vue De lac = Lake view in French). Since there is already a tower called Lake View, how will Al Attar call their tower on K2 plot? Maybe with the Arabic name for "lake view"?

http://www.immobilien.dubai-city.de/vista_del_lago/vista_del_lago_dubai_01.jpg

http://www.immobilien.dubai-city.de/vista_del_lago/vista_del_lago_dubai_03.jpg

http://www.immobilien.dubai-city.de/vista_del_lago/vista_del_lago_dubai_02.jpg

13/10/2006

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1839/dsc0083fo3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Vue Du Lac (JLT) advert

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8515/dsc0502wn3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1205/dsc0503oo4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9271/dsc0504jr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

you get it with the 5.4F V8 Hemi?

:eek:

not bad.. not bad..

durango is a very cheaply priced SUV in the UAE i believe...

89,000 AED for base model, I think.
G

Yeah, that's why Chrysler lost 1.5 Billion Dollars on the Third quarter (Jul -Sep) alone.

i still like their cars ;)

all three towers are on emporis now

Does anyone have any updates on Vue de Lac? Can't find any information and Al Attar properties don't appear to be sending any updates to owners.

the project has 6 month delay, you may amend your installments

Thanks FARHAD53, what do you mean by you can amend your instalments? Have you had contact with Al Attar? They haven't replied to my e-mails. Have you bought an apartment and have they agreed to amend your instalment plan?

DAVEYG Did you get my reply to your PM? e-mail me if you did.

This project will delay at least 1 year, even the piling is not done yet.:bash:

New Completion Date: mid 2009

Hi Ardi, have you bought at Vue de Lac. How have you got your information? Are you in Dubai and can see the buildings at Jumeirah lakes? There aren't many apartments advertised for sale at Vue de Lac. Do you know anything more about this building?

24/May/2007

JLT K plot from Almas Tower

http://i18.tinypic.com/4yjafdi.jpg

http://i14.tinypic.com/6cdno6h.jpg

This is very promising after 2/5 years which they luanched the project:bash:

Thanks for the picture update Imre. Lets hope Al Attar get their act together and start building a tower.

any news from this one, any progress after 3 years?:bash:

Looks like plenty in resale, investors trying early exit!!

Any new information about the project ........................
Current Status .............

as per bncnetwork bulletin as of Oct 24th 2007 all piling and foundation work complete on plot K3, structural work to commence Nov 2007, completion March 2009 (seems optimistic!) http://www.bncnetwork.net/pgs/SiteMap.htm#

I have deceided to cut my loses and have got all my money back from Al Attar properties. It was an absolute nightmare dealing with this company, even after they agreed to repay me, it took weeks for them to deal with the refund, even telling me that my UK bank account didn't exist and I should check the number with my bank. I phoned them on a number of occasions when they kept telling me the cheque was ready to collect even though they know I live in england and had requested a bank transfer. Even now I am still waiting for them to confirm how much they had transfered (as the funds were trfd in AED and received in £'s.
I thought Dubai Properties were bad they are brilliant compared to this bunch of jokers.
Good luck to all others waiting for this project, I think you will need it!

14/December/2007

JLT , K plot

K1 - Vista Del Largo

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6050/imresolt45vp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


K2

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5486/imresolt44ln8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


K3-- Vue De Lac

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4825/imresolt34wv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7844/imresolt35tr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This project never get completed. Those who wants to refund their money should wait another 6 month so base their contract they should receive interest from developer.

Or better option is to sell the unit and get some premium on top. at least next person can wait another 2 years.

IMO the project will be completed...... delayed but will do it. Al Attar is a very big developer and I fully agree one of the slowest. However, prices at launch were low compared to current prices and if you wait until they start building up the floors, prices in re-sale will increase and you should be able to make a nice profite despite the delay.

But if you are looking for a quick turn around ..... yes, that's the wrong project.

At least Al Attar is a developer who is re-scheduling the payment plan and one is not forced to pay 90% for a hole in the ground (see WIND).....

^^ Please do not comapre bad to worst. both are bulshit. they luanched these towers in June 2005, its almost 3 years. not only they havent build these project they havnt started their project in Business Bay and international city. they are playing around with people until they cancel their unit and sell it again at market price.

That means rubery at daylight.:ohno:

I have been informed that Al Attar is setting up escrow accounts. Therefore, if you are due for the next installment payment, contact them and ask for the new account number where you will have to transfer the money to.

Of course, it will take at least 6 weeks to set up the escrow accounts..... :ohno::ohno::ohno:

05/March/2008


JLT, K plot

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4467/imresolt17fd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4991/imresolt18ym8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Great Imre, thanks for the update. Have you seen any workers on these plots? Are there any activities during the week ?

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3725/286gr6.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=286gr6.jpg)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3551/288sk5.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=288sk5.jpg)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1051/289rs8.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=289rs8.jpg)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8058/290ph0.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=290ph0.jpg)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/528/291wr6.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=291wr6.jpg)

Would it be realistic to assume that it takes at least another 3 years to completion ?
:bash:

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4867/310gr7.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=310gr7.jpg)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2388/311fg5.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=311fg5.jpg)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3537/312pv1.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=312pv1.jpg)

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2083/313yf9.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=313yf9.jpg)

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4283/314va3.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=314va3.jpg)

Woww thats excellent great speed.

Al attar is the best :nuts:

For god sake please cancel this ugly project pleaseeeeeeeee

I am ready to donate 500Aed to al attar.

tony 90 much luv :) thnx for construction update pixx

does any one know
when do they plan to start contruction ?
and what will be the new completion date ?

thank you

does any one know
when do they plan to start contruction ?
and what will be the new completion date ?

thank you

Didn't they start already? You can see the hole in the ground :bash:
Well, Al Attar still keeps Q3 2009 for completion. However, taking into account the situation in Dubai, IMO it will take at least 3 years from now to move in :ohno::ohno::ohno:

At least these will be one of the last towers to be completed in the area, which means that you will be able to enjoy living in JLT straight away without being surrounded by further construction work..... does this statement seems cynical..... oppps :bash:

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3929/vuehy9.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vuehy9.jpg)

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4360/vue1cb7.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vue1cb7.jpg)


Plot K2?

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6563/k1hv9.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k1hv9.jpg)

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1937/k1arb5.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k1arb5.jpg)

These fuckers make me sick

Could it be that they don't move really with plot K1 + K3 to wait for K2 to catch up?

Construction experts, would such an approach make sense?

Yes, that might be the reason, they awarded all 3 plots to the same contractor, but its not necessary to start all 3 project at the same time.

They are collecting the 4th payment from client, they said if you dont pay we will cancel your contract.

IMO the project will be completed...... delayed but will do it. Al Attar is a very big developer and I fully agree one of the slowest. However, prices at launch were low compared to current prices and if you wait until they start building up the floors, prices in re-sale will increase and you should be able to make a nice profite despite the delay.

But if you are looking for a quick turn around ..... yes, that's the wrong project.

At least Al Attar is a developer who is re-scheduling the payment plan and one is not forced to pay 90% for a hole in the ground (see WIND).....

Please dont beleive all you reads on these forums, I certainly have not paid anywhere near 90% to wind. The hole in the ground at wind is now at floor 3.

All these doom and gloom posts are so simular to the years of bull shi-t people posted on the Wind forum.
Your development will be built but will be completed very late like several other towers within JLT.
I personally estimate 2011 before the final towers are completed within JLT and with the worldwide credit crunch this may be good timing for the best returns and maybe the £££ will get strong again by this time?

Dont do what people did in Wind and have years of slagging off this development, it will come good eventually, the law is changing quickly to protect investors in Dubai, they need foreign money to continue building their economy so they wont let developers scam you in such high profile developments.

If you look at the Wind forum the doom and gloom adicts that posted negative daily postings they have dissappeared for a couple of months since progress has been made. Easy to find fault but hard to report progress.

How many of the 78 Towers in JLT will be completed in December 2008?
Going to be a large number in the same situation.....

STAY FOCUSSED

^^ Well, I do agree with you, the towers will most probably not be finished before 2011. People just need to accept that the time ticks differently in Dubai and everything takes much longer than promised......
However, comparing the price we paid with current off-plan projects, I have a big smile on my face. Availability will be around the same time but I just paid 50% compared to current launch prices :)

No buying and selling on this forum

:|

^^ :nuts: agree with you :lol:

By the way, I was contacting Al Attar and they told me that they changed consultant (? again ?) and construction will start soon......
If I interpret that in Dubai style.... it will not start before the end of the year??? (pure speculation from my side.....) :ohno::ohno::ohno:

This one is ready to UNDER C :D ...

29/Aug/2008

Vue de Lac, K3

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/966/imresolt163hm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/8581/imresolt094jj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

any progress on this? thanks!

hey! anyone there who can update what is the progress of this building?

same hole as before, I would put on the ON HOLD section..

28/November/2008

K1,K2,K3

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8940/imresolt207xn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1410/imresolt213ve3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4427/imresolt226kd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Vue De Lac to begin this week


http://i43.tinypic.com/2ynp276.jpg


on Saturday, 27 December 2008

The K3 tower is one of three in the Vue De Lac development that is yet to begin.Dubai-based Al Attar Properties has confirmed that it could begin foundation work on its Vue De Lac project in Jumeirah Lake Towers as early as this week.

The development includes three towers - K1, K2 and K3. Each was originally scheduled for handover in September 2007, but the project has since been pushed back to the third quarter of 2010.

Speaking to Construction Week, Al Attar projects manager Bipin Pudiyadath said, "We should be able to begin the raft foundation within a week or two maximum, and we should be able to start the entire construction after the raft work."
He also said the company was waiting for Dubai to release its green regulations in January before it begins construction in order to comply with the code.

"Once the regulations come out, we are just waiting for the approval (of the design) which we should get by January," Pudiyadath said.

The declaration follows complaints from investors of the project who said the delay was costing them "thousands of dirhams a year."

An investor in the project, who declined to be named, told Construction Week that the delay was costing around US $4100 (AED15,000) per year.

"We bought this in the hope that our EMI (equated monthly installment) would work up to about 90,000 dirham a year, which is what it would have worked up to if they had delivered on time.

"But we pay 7.5% interest over and above the monthly EMI, so for every year that the developer delays the project, the additional 7.5% works up to about 15,000 dirham annually.

"If the project was up on time, it would have benefited us. Now, our cash is locked in and there is no compensation."

Investors say they should be paid compensation to cover money that has been lost due to the delays.

"The people at Al Attar are always polite, but when your cash is locked in, you want a little more than that," the investor said. "Shouldn't the developer be responsible for something?"

But Pudiyadath said, "We make decisions regarding compensation at the time of handover. As of now, there is nothing. Not just yet."


http://www.arabianbusiness.com/542024-vue-de-lac-to-begin-this-week

:)

09/January/2009

K1,K2,K3, JLT

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7868/imresolt013zb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4337/imresolt028gr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4473/imresolt029gj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i spoke to someone from dmcc and they told that the project is not on hold. they had to revise plans due to parking issues and were or still are waiting for permission to build

Fuck Al Attar and everyone who is behind this project, they used people's money to build thier shits in Sheikh Zayed Road, Fat Bastards.:bash:

same nothing..

14/February/2009

K3

Vue De Lac

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3862/imresolt001dw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ :nuts: agree with you :lol:

By the way, I was contacting Al Attar and they told me that they changed consultant (? again ?) and construction will start soon......
If I interpret that in Dubai style.... it will not start before the end of the year??? (pure speculation from my side.....) :ohno::ohno::ohno:

It seems that I was even to "optimistic" in August when I said construction would start by the end of the year.

There is no change over more than a year and in the current financial climate I have difficulties to believe that construction would start soon. However, I would be very pleased if proven wrong.

The only good thing is that payment of installments has been put on hold as well.

"The development includes three towers - K1, K2 and K3. Each was originally scheduled for handover in September 2007, but the project has since been pushed back to the third quarter of 2010."

:lol:

Any ideas on whether the construction of K1,K2,K3 are going to affect finishing the lake?

I was under the impression access to the K2 tower construction was from the lake bed. The hole they left in the lake wall which I thought was for K2 has been bricked-up in the last few weeks so maybe they are pushing ahead with the lake?

I also saw a crane working in the K2 hole last week. First activity since I arrived 5 months ago.

that lake will be the last one ,will be filled in 2010, so they have time.

My concern is that if construction on these towers is further delayed, will the lake filling stay on schedule? Is construction access from the lake bed? It's already annoying enough knowing I'll be looking at a sand pit for at least another year!

Also is there any risk of cancellation of these towers?

dead, still nothing here

22/April/2009

JLT, K plot


http://i41.tinypic.com/2599xt0.jpg

My concern is that if construction on these towers is further delayed, will the lake filling stay on schedule? Is construction access from the lake bed? It's already annoying enough knowing I'll be looking at a sand pit for at least another year!

Also is there any risk of cancellation of these towers?

Well you never know with Dubai :ohno::ohno::ohno:
The current plans are to finish the construction by end of 2010 and the interio by mid 2011 :bash::bash::bash: my guess it will not be ready before end 2011 (earliest)

Let's cross fingers that they will start in summer as otherwise it will be almost impossible to reach the targets.....

has any one approached rera for the cancellation of this project and refund of monies paid

i am an investor in this tower (or i should say hole in the ground)

15/May/2009

K plots

http://i41.tinypic.com/34t3eir.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/10p0etw.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/2v1268p.jpg

12/June/2009

JLT K plot , still 3 holes but good progress of the parking-podium structure :)

http://i42.tinypic.com/2vmhk0g.jpg

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http://i40.tinypic.com/52cdi8.jpg

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http://i42.tinypic.com/vcup28.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2wm2cd1.jpg

22/July/2009

K plots

http://i27.tinypic.com/qqsmec.jpg

Latest Update earlier this month :

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/560791-vue-de-lac-to-begin-this-month
==

Investors should form a common forum and seek Interest Refund @ 12% PA for last 4& 1/2 years for keeping our money (and using it elsewhere to profit / speculate) or make adjustment of the iterest in the price.

This property even after re-starting construction in Sept 2009 will not fetch the launch price of FEB 2005, so Buyers ar e MINUS anyway. At the purchase price one can easily get READY Property in same area. So Al Attar owe Investors some serious explanations & concessions (for STAYERS & specially to the original Buyers since 2005).

We are not speaking about DAMAGES & actual losses at this point. Had the prop been completed even by Mid 2008, Investors selling would have comfortably made 100% profit. Non-Sellers by now would have earned not less than AED 200-250,000 in RENT Income with a 2B/R (1175 Sqft) had it been delivered on time. So Mr Bipin Balakrishnan has to answer and get Mr Majid Al Attar face to face before Investors. All future payments to be construction linked and to the Escrow A/c direct. - Cheers !

I am sick and tired of this.
So now it all depends on a bank guarantee and what if the bank guarantee is not acquired then what??? Besides how is this, the investors problem.
As far as I am concern recession, contractors not performing, green regulation etc…………..
Is all Al ATTAR’s problem we paid money for an apartment, they should deliver. Anything else is their problem not mine.

goldline have been awarded the contract to build this project apparently.
merv

21/August/2009

K1,K2,K3

http://i28.tinypic.com/msds1c.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/263wpw4.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/5v7g29.jpg

goldline have been awarded the contract to build this project apparently.
merv

developer always saying, next week:)

almost all Al Attar projects ON HOLD now, hard to believe that they will start anything here but I hope, JLT waiting for them , even the podium - road access ready around the 3 plots.

i surely hope their next week turn out to be true and they start construction as since last year they have been repeating the same thing has any one approached the developer for a refund if yes then pls guide me

www.arabianbusiness.com/560791-vue-de-lac-to-begin-this-month[/url]
WE SHOUL ALL PUT COMPLAINT IN ARABIANBUSINESS.COM AND ASK BIPIN TO ANSWER

This is a good one, listen to this.
Supposedly building should have started back in August 2009 (after goldline was named the finale contractors or in this case savior). So far every time I call Al Attar they say next, next week, next week the contractor will start mobilizing.
Today they said they are in the process of de-mobilizing from the previous contractor this project seems to be running against the clock instead of moving forward we seem to be moving backwards.

I cannot believe that contractually we should have taken ownership of our flats in Sept 2007. Now Al Attar would require at least 2years 6 month to finish the project (if he is going at super speed) that means that we will only get delivery by March 2012 (if we are lucky and if he starts building in October) which means that the project ONLY got delayed by 4 years and 6 month minimum.

Is there anyone out there who shares my frustration what sort of company can constantly lie to their investors for more than 4 years??????????????????????????????????????????

Tank you Raybong for the URL link. Anyone has any update on whether there is any development ?

Latest development.
Tried calling Al Attar (Again) but as usual you can’t get a straight answer from anyone, I honestly think that they don’t have a clue.
So I called the contractor directly (GoldLine), apparently all the paper work has been completed, and the previous contractor (Al Saqer) de-mobilization has been done.
Within 1 to 2 weeks Goldline should start mobilizing, however the first phase will be to finish the excavation on plot K2 (oddly enough it is the third building that Al Attar hasn’t sold yet).The contractor mentioned that even though originally they were supposed to start with Vue du Lac and Vista De Lago first, now the plan is that all the building should start together, after they finish the excavation on plot K2.
The excavation should take around 2 to 3 month so by December building should start.
Last but not least it will take 30 month for the completion of all the 3 towers that means delivery will not be before June-July 2012.
ONLY a 4 years 6 month delay if we are lucky.

Why has been changed the contractor Saqer ?

Within 1 to 2 weeks Goldline should start mobilizing, however the first phase will be to finish the excavation on plot K2 (oddly enough it is the third building that Al Attar hasn’t sold yet).The contractor mentioned that even though originally they were supposed to start with Vue du Lac and Vista De Lago first, now the plan is that all the building should start together, after they finish the excavation on plot K2.
The excavation should take around 2 to 3 month so by December building should start.
Last but not least it will take 30 month for the completion of all the 3 towers that means delivery will not be before June-July 2012.
ONLY a 4 years 6 month delay if we are lucky.

Thanks for the update and in fact, I think it is not odd that Al Attar want to move on with all three towers at the same time. For your information K2 has not been sold as Al Attar intends to rent it out themselves.

Well, my last estimation was this project not being ready before end 2011 but as nothing has happened for the last years, I rather agree with your estimation of 2012. I thought that JLT should be finalised by 2010 but maybe now delays are accepted due to the financial crisis ??

Let's cross fingers that they really start working on these plots and I don't mind with which activity as long as something is going on :bash:

Imre, could you keep an eye on these plots and post pics if something is happening :)

02/October/2009

JLT, K plots

same as before, nothing..

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Thanks Imre, but I did not think that something would happen within a day :lol:

LA76 mentioned 1 to 2 weeks. If I may ask you to have another look at the end of November (free interpretation of Dubai style for 1 to 2 weeks :bash:)

ok, I know next week ,same story since 2007:)

they have cut down 15% of the size from the 1 bed room units

no proper reply no one to talk to

Hi, We booked a 2BR flat with Vue du Lac in September 2006. Last year, we went back for a refund and they told us that the new law allows them to keep our money.
So we thought Ok. we'll keep our 2BR flat. Last week, we were notified that our 2BR flat has been changed into a 1BR plus study. We are a family of 4. What can we do with a 1BR plus study? No one is reponding at Al Attar and though we have been sent the same floor plan, it does not include sq. ms. I am the one who got Jamie from Construction Week (arabianbusiness.com article) to contact Bipin and hold an interview so we can hold them accountable. I now request all Vue du Lac investors here to please contact me so we can form a committee and seek greater accountability by going to the newspapers etc like they did with Damac and Hydra etc. Otherwise, we will be the LOSERS.
My cell no is 050 7683435.
My email id is vsuzie@yahoo.com
Construction Week is willing to take this up on a bigger scale if more people will come forward to contest this legally. I want a 2BR flat. It's bad enough they are 4 years late. They won't refund. Now they want to give me something else.
It's like saying you went to the showroom and paid advance for , for eg. a four wheeler, which they promise will come in two weeks. When you go in two weeks, they tell you - Sorry, no 4-wheeler. Only saloon car. Take it or leave it but you won't get your advance back. We need to do this legally and bring this property to the attention of the authorities. I hope we can work together. Thanks.

They have cut down the size of my apartment too; I am still waiting to find out by how much. THIS IS RIDICULOUS they are claiming the cuts are due to the new Green regulation WHATTTTT??????????????????

Seriously what are these guys up tooooooooooooo

We're trying to form a committee for this. Please contact me on vsuzie@yahoo.com. Thanks,

Read this,

http://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-6698-disgruntled-vue-de-lac-investors-storm-rera-office/

Anyone interested in joining this committee let me know

An Article By Arabian Business

Investors file case with RERA over Dubai project delays

A group of around 30 investors has filed an official complaint at the Real Estate Regulatory Agency (Rera) over ongoing delays and specification changes at the Vue de Lac and Vista del Lago developments in Dubai.

Investors on the Al Attar project at Jumeirah Lake Towers accused the developer of unreasonable delays and changes being made to apartments without the consent of owners, Construction Week Online reported.

“We have been promised the project since then end of 2007. It was then pushed to 2008, then the end of 2008, and now he’s saying 2011 – which will never happen, because up to date they’ve only finished the piling,” investor Makram Mohamed told the website.

Many asserted that apartment specifications have changed so drastically that they no longer wish to purchase property in the project and want a full refund.

Investors are unhappy at what was described in a letter from Al Attar as “some small changes”, where two-bedroom apartments have been changed to one-bedroom ones.

Al Attar had revised the prices of the apartments in line with the reduction in apartment size, but investors said that they had bought two-bedroom apartments specifically and a smaller alternative was not acceptable.

“Because of the change of designation and all of this delay, we don’t want this property any more. The majority of people investing were buying to live in this property. Ninety per cent of our group wanted to live in this. Now they’ve changed the designation, we don’t need it. I bought a two-bedroom; you can’t give me a one-bed plus study,” said investor Shailendra Sainani.

“The majority of us need our money refunded and the costs absorbed. [Al Attar] needs to resell the project from the beginning.”

In addition to changes in designation, many investors are also concerned that delays to the project will result in a huge interest bill arising from finance agreements that can only be concluded following apartment handover.

Some investors took out finance agreements in 2006 under the impression that the project would be handed over in 2008. They are now facing the prospect of paying five years’ worth of interest on finance agreements, should the project be delivered according to a new completion date of 2011.

Some investors also query Al Attar’s ability to deliver the project on time.

“Can we still believe Al Attar can deliver in 2011, if they couldn’t even start construction in the last three years?” said one investor.

The group has filed a case with Rera because they say that Al Attar Properties is refusing to communicate with them except through a lawyer.

No-one from Al Attar was able to comment on the case or development.

The case has now been filed with Rera, who said a decision on the steps it would take would be forthcoming in the next few days.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/571266-investors-file-case-with-rera-over-dubai-project-delays

For all of the investors out there who are in similar position I will appreciate your help by adding your comments on the article in Arabian Business

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/571266-investors-file-case-with-rera-over-dubai-project-delays

This may help our case

Thanks

You bet I will add a comment. Thnaks for updating the info.

I see that many people have added comments on the new article, I did also myself. That's great. I had a conversation with my friend who went through the dealing with RERA for his apt in the Marina (similar situation). He says that RERA will take action to give pressure to the dceveloper if the noise is loud, and they will stop the project if they see no hope and has developer return the money. But I was advised to becareful though, since even the court rules Al Attar to return the money, developer can still play tricks by issueing credit notes to buyers. and you know how that will go. just as a FYI-
About 1 yr ago, I wrote an email to the authority for Jumeira lake towers, they responded quickly by forwarding my email with their comment to Al Attar, that time basically Al Attar apologized and informed me the renewed payment schedule. I will write them again to complain and find out if there are any news. will keep you updated.

The k1, k2, k3 and m2 are the only ones that are still "a hole" according to Imre's update on another blog, I am concerned. We need to work together to get them alerted .
The Jumeira lake contact info: http://www.jlt.ae/jlt_launch/location_map.aspx
if anyone wants to write a complaint/concern email to them.

Yo, LA 76, thanks for taking the actin to talk to Goldline-the new contractor, I am sure everyone benefitted from your msg alot.
Please do advise if there are any updates concerning RERA feedback.
Your insight is much appreciated.

06/November/2009

JLT, K1-2-3 plots

podium-road structure done but still nothing there.

Good news , I met with an investor there , we had a nice chat :)

The Al Attar told him that the mobilisaton has started behind the plot , next to the Goldcrest Views 2 and the contractor (Goldline) coming soon.

I thought that is the mobilisation of the mosque , we will see soon , its time to start something there. :)

If they start , only the M2 plot left hole (+Anantara , ON HOLD + few at the JLT extension)

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site mobilisation

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thankx imre
only time will tell if this developer actually delivers what they had promised as till now things do not look good.

Imre, thanks for the updated pictures. btw, do you work for the website ? I see you alot in other blogs as well.

I have sent an email to the jlt office basically demanding explaination for Al Attar`s delay. Bascially I demanded them to give me a roadmap of how they plan to finish the jlt project with Al Attar not even started their own project yet ? And what they will do to penalize a developer such as Al Attar. The email address is "shanthini.bandarage@dmcc.ae".

The momentum is really good with the new article, I also encourage any one to post their reply, there are over 40 comments now. Here is the URL for the new article.
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/571266

Fight ON !

They could well start a little bit and then for it to go on hold again after a few weeks. How many times has the al attar tower on SZR been on hold now?

Imre, thanks for the updated pictures. btw, do you work for the website ? I see you alot in other blogs as well.



No, I am taking photos just like a hobby.

Morning I saw 2 workers there with Goldenline dress, painting the fence now.

Check out this site.

The committee is still working hard. The article appeared in the Gulf News weekly Xpress newspaper and in the Gulf news website (check out the below)

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/housing-property/jlt-owners-still-waiting-for-homes-promised-in-2007-1.526478

Our sound is becoming higher

LA76, thanks alot for the link to the Gulf news article. You are right, our voices are getting louder, and these cheaters knows that their reputation is hurting. I put a 5 rating on the article, at least to show the news that people cares about this report.
I wonder who got the Gulf news to post this article ? Or they just reported it on their own ?
Imre, thanks for the update, man.

met one investor outside the site few hours back. He mentioned he has already filed a case two months back.

29/November/2009

JLT, K plots

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anyone has any update from　RERA? Or any other updates ?

thanks.

The site office mobilisation seems done, I think they will start the main construction soon.

Imre, I surely hope so.
Berries, is there any feedback on your end concerning the result of the protest, or did any further development from the construction magazine ? thanks.

The site office mobilisation seems done, I think they will start the main construction soon.

Do you think they are working on the Towers and not the Mosque or Fire Station??

we've invested in Vancouver at International City and now Al Attar are proposing we switch to Vue De Lac or Vista Del Lago, as their IC projects are delayed indefinitely.

They're offering mostly 2 bedrooms 1,050-1,131 sqf, 720-907 dhs/sqf progressively as you go up the building.

Most 2 bedroom floor-plans show a single bedroom and a study, though the study, at least on the drawing, is not significantly smaller.

Does anyone know what is the difference between a study and a bedroom in this case?

Is this a good deal? What's a good way to determine an appropriate rate for this sort of property?

I suppose you dont have too much of a choice at this time. but dont put more money in to it until you see that it is building, because at this time, we dont even know when they will be building it ?
btw, does any one have any news ? Falcon,what do you mean by that ? I read on Altar website on their Nov project update, it looks like some activities are going on.

I suppose you dont have too much of a choice at this time. but dont put more money in to it until you see that it is building, because at this time, we dont even know when they will be building it ?
btw, does any one have any news ? Falcon,what do you mean by that ? I read on Altar website on their Nov project update, it looks like some activities are going on.

It was just a thought.
Hope I am wrong!! but most activity at the moment is centered around the lanscaping of the Lakes, the Mosque and Fire Stations are I suspect, very important to the surrounding infrastructure
Where the mentioned boarding and site office is is where the Mosque and Fire Station are going to be built.
Concordia are wanting to collect the Master Community fees and have a more genuine claim when the Master Community common areas are completed.

We visited Alattar back in april, and were assured that the contractor would be on board by August/September and preperation would commence in October/November.

We called Alattar on 4th January to get an update. We spoke to a lady in the customer services, and after confirming that construction had infact not started, we were asked to contact their lawyers, and refused to put us through to their directors.

Does anyone know the outcome of the case filed with Rera?

I will be there next week and would attempt to meet with their directors. i will let you know the outcome. If anyone has any more information please let me know.
MR

Perspolise, RERA won't be of much help! They can cancel the project (maybe after 5 years) but how can they get the money out for purchasers, that's not within their powers!

Concordia are wanting to collect the Master Community fees and have a more genuine claim when the Master Community common areas are completed.

Do you think this is holding up the Al Attar projects?

What is the point of RERA if it can't enforce anything?

I was onsite today. Met the Contractor Project Manager. He was kind enough to show me around.

There's active work on lake excavation, lake promenade is complete, auxiliary parking (not under the towers, but on the sides of the drop-off ramp) is complete. Lake will be filled this year, does not affect the K plots.

The K1-K3 sites are still holes in the ground. The contractor is mobilized and ready to work. Awaiting approval from Jafza, hopefully first half of February.

According to the Goldline PM, a tower of this sort would take 3 years to get built, at best. So the Al Attar-proposed completion date of "end of 2011" is not realistic.

K1 will start first, K3 will follow 3-6 months after.

Bahman, thanks for the update.
did the guy from Goldline say when they will actually start the construction ?
thanks,

does anyone has update ? it is alread Feb, 2010. Please advise.

thank you,

does anyone has update ? it is alread Feb, 2010. Please advise.

thank you,

Just called the Goldline PM. No approval yet. Maybe 2 weeks, inshallah.

Ychiang - if you are in the area, go to the site, meet the people, talk to them, get friendly, get their phone number, track the progress, post the updates here, good luck!

05/March/2010

JLT, K1,K2,K3 plots, still nothing here

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bahman2000-
I am in New York. How I wish I can . . . .
Thank you anyways.

guys,

Pls check the below article. Please advise your thoughts.
http://www.propertyadvicedubai.com/dubai-news/2010/02/legal-notice-has-been-served-to-all.html

20/April/2010

Al Attar K1, K2,K3 , still nothing here

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Imre, thanks for the photos.
Al Attar and the Dubai government are the biggest cun artist . . . . . . .

DMCC/Nakheel or whatever we call them even bigger joke, podium works done where is just 3 holes and nothing else but at the Y plots where people living (Lake Shore Tower) still U/C and the X plots also where people still waiting for the handover..

Is anyone taking any action on this? trying to get their money out? want to join in a group with us?

Is anyone taking any action on this? trying to get their money out? want to join in a group with us?

Are you seriously thinking you would be able to get your money out of this?
Al Attar has no money. When the situation in Dubai will improve they eventually will build these towers. Even RERA tells investors to wait and see :bash: Do you think that any action would force a local UAE company to refund your money? :ohno::ohno::ohno: In my view, no chance at all.

We have to face it, bad decision to invest in Al Attar. If we are lucky, they will build one day and by that time JLT should mostly be finished. We may be able to sell or rent out the apartments and to get at least some money back.

09/July/2010

Al Attar Projects , K1, K2 , K3

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Rights and compensation

Investor has the right to seek compensation.

http://gulfnews.com/uaessentials/ask-the-law/rights-and-compensation-1.678183

take a look at this article

i spoke to Mr. Masoor he said construction to begin in a week's time (not sure if he is telling the truth as that week never reaches it's target)

Visited Site on 28th Sept (last month) and have taken photos as usual. No sign of any activity whatsoever.
:bash:
Aparently their project Manage Bipin Balakrishnan has quit the company. Those in Al Attar office are openly telling clients to go and pursue their recovery in Court of Law. Well the Real Estate Court is so overburdened with cases that to seek a recourse from court will take maybe 2 to 3 years, which would then be subject to appeal, so you are looking at 4 to 6 years!! Then if ordered by court to refund, Al Attar will probably agree to refund after 5/6 years, so till then they are safe and continue to enjoy our money.:ohno:

:hammer:

Imre, still no signs of any thing happening?? Please advise if you pass by the site.
Thank you. I am in NY so unable to check.

Imre, still no signs of any thing happening?? Please advise if you pass by the site.
Thank you. I am in NY so unable to check.

^^the problem is......Imre is also in New York :lol:

Imre, still no signs of any thing happening?? Please advise if you pass by the site.
Thank you. I am in NY so unable to check.


Hi

When I arrived here 10 days ago there was water almost filling one of the foundation holes, a pump has been pumping the water out over the last few days.

Apart from that the site is in the same state it was back in January as per Imre's photos above.

No point in posting any photos because as I say the site has not changed since January.

My flat is directly above the site and I see it every day that I am here. Now and again you see on or two workers there but it is difficult to know whether they are working on the Dmcc lakes or on this development

No site security on site and no one present at the site offices out front either.

Sorry to report this news

Visited Site on 28th Sept (last month) and have taken photos as usual. No sign of any activity whatsoever.
:bash:
Aparently their project Manage Bipin Balakrishnan has quit the company. Those in Al Attar office are openly telling clients to go and pursue their recovery in Court of Law. Well the Real Estate Court is so overburdened with cases that to seek a recourse from court will take maybe 2 to 3 years, which would then be subject to appeal, so you are looking at 4 to 6 years!! Then if ordered by court to refund, Al Attar will probably agree to refund after 5/6 years, so till then they are safe and continue to enjoy our money.:ohno:

:hammer:

My contract stipulates Arbitration, not court of law.

I heard that arbitration is much faster.

Any opinions on this?

My contract stipulates Arbitration, not court of law.

I heard that arbitration is much faster.

Any opinions on this?

Hi there

An Al Attar Investors Action Group is currently under construction. This website aims to help everyone who has been stung by this corrupt developer and raise awareness with the authorities of Al Attars Practices. If you send me a personal message I can hopefully direct you about this up and coming site.

Kind regards

HI Peter, would it be possible to post the webiste URL so that we all can go there. I am sure that many of us want to join the protest against this evil company.

HI Peter, would it be possible to post the webiste URL so that we all can go there. I am sure that many of us want to join the protest against this evil company.

Hi there

If you go to this link:
http://www.propertycommunity.com/forum/dubai-property/

And look for the thread on page 2 "Calling all Al Attar Investors". This will give you the info you want and what we are about. Unfortunately this website does not allow such threads to be created, as I once had my hands slapped for doing it by the administrator.

Kind regards

Pete

Hi everyone.
Just wondered if anyone have any news to update us. I will be in Dubai next Friday. I believe we as a group should visit their offices to raise our disappointment and anger, rather than individual visits. please let me know if you are available and happy to meet.

This week I saw these plots from the Icon Tower, nothing happening there..

Only activity here is water pumps on all the time to stop foundations filling up. Also the building contractor listed on the front boards did have all equipment ready at the end of last year and was stored at DMCC park accross the road but since Christmas everything was taken away on trucks.

It is absolutely disgusting. Have you tried to see a lawyer in Dubai or have you heard of anybody getting their money back through a lawyer?

Site offices , fence etc.. have removed from the plot next to the Goldcrest Views 2 , not a good sign..

27/May/2011

Al Attar projects ...K1 , K2, K3

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yeap it seems dead for years

It seems NEVER BUILT, landscaping done around the plot if they want to build it will be difficult as there is no access road, storage area etc...

17/September/2011

JLT, cluster K

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Can anyone give an update of the k plot ? thank you very much.

Can anyone give an update of the k plot ? thank you very much.

Same as before , only 3 holes there.

Thank you, Imre.

Some site offices there again after one and half year :)

20/January/2012

Cluster K

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