I have been trying to find a way to put these on the forums but have not yet found out. Thanks to Leafs Fanatic for showing me www.webshots.com and making this possible.

Thesre are only 9 of my many pics of the games (other ones are private) and I want to show them.

Olympic Stadium Complex OAKA

http://image36.webshots.com/37/0/54/4/278405404eQRQWs_ph.jpg

http://image38.webshots.com/38/0/56/3/278405603WsvKiR_ph.jpg

http://image38.webshots.com/39/0/88/8/278408808KHdRXF_ph.jpg

http://image24.webshots.com/24/0/50/79/278405079NGCSXM_ph.jpg

http://image38.webshots.com/38/0/52/72/278405272NiAYDa_ph.jpg

Karaiskaki Stadium

http://image38.webshots.com/38/0/45/3/278404503mDQrCq_ph.jpg

Hellinikon Olympic Complex

As you can see this pic was taken in the first day of the games (bad attendance) and the others were taken in the later stages of the games which is why the stadiums were near full

http://image26.webshots.com/26/0/46/62/278404662YNJLzc_ph.jpg

Terrible shot of the Basketball Stadium. We were very late for the game so I had to hurry. :)

http://image24.webshots.com/24/0/47/73/278404773oUdgWH_ph.jpg

Go caps...

They are not all showing.

I think you might have to provide links because the site is blocking them (maybe copy right issues)

Gocaps, try imageshack.us. I would like to see them as well.

Look guy when there is a :redx: just right click it and go to its properties. When you are there just highlight the site URL and paste it to the area where you put in the web sites and the pictures will show.

Nice shots gocaps. :okay:


only a couple worked but I right clicked them and they were fine.

Nice shots gocaps. :okay:


only a couple worked but I right clicked them and they were fine.

What, right click and....?

Nice pictures gocaps. :cheers:

What, right click and....?


right click the picture, go to properties, copy the URL then paste it in your browser.

right click the picture, go to properties, copy the URL then paste it in your browser.

Oh, thanks, it's easy.

Great!!Good shots!

Venues rot as Greece loses its Olympic gains

Helena Smith in Athens
Sunday March 6, 2005
The Observer

Six months after the Athens Olympics, all is not well. Around the canoe-kayak course, in the city that hosted the world's 'unforgettable, dream games', lights that illuminated the site now swing, hopelessly, from cords of broken wire. It is hard not to miss the galloping necrosis enveloping so many of the 36 venues either purpose-built or upgraded for the Games. For the neglect does not end here.

On the other side of the Olympic facility, in the inner sanctum of the world-class basketball hall, the roof is leaking. Buckets, dexterously placed around its carpeted stadium, collect droplets the size of large coins. Across town, on the ancient Marathon route, the drains are clogged. They are also blocked at the multi-million-pound building that served as the press centre during the Games. And, at the rowing centre in Skoinias, the waters have turned stagnant brown. There, officials wonder what to do with a facility now widely decried as an environmental disaster.

One of the smallest nations ever to host the globe's biggest sports event, Greece had hoped the Olympics would transform its citizens' lives as never before. Instead, they are discovering that the 16-day bonanza may have been pure folly. This week, as their government prepares to release a long-awaited bill stipulating the venues' 'post-Olympic usage', many are wondering whether staging the Games was little more than an exercise in economic flagellation.

The biggest Olympics ever, and the most expensive in terms of security, the event is believed to have cost about £7 billion, five times more than originally expected. Such a bill, say economists, will take at least two decades to pay off with Greeks as yet unborn footing most of it.

'The hefty post-Olympics bill is already being compounded by the devaluation of the sports venues,' opined the authoritative daily Kathimerini, summing up the mood. 'And all the while, the collective memory of the euphoria of the Games continues to fade.'

Last week, the country's Alternate Culture Minister, Fani Palli-Petralia, admitted what Hellenes had feared most. 'We didn't have a reliable post-Olympics plan,' said the politician who headed preparations for the Games. 'Many venues were designed without their post-Olympics use in mind.'

On Tuesday, exactly 205 days after the Games opened in spectacular style, Athens's centre-right government will advertise around two dozen of the installations at one of the world's grandest real-estate fairs in Cannes. Officials hope that by showcasing the facilities, constructed in cities across Greece, international investors will be lured into snapping up lucrative leases, boosting the country's tourism.

'We've had to work through endless documents to identify what the exact legal position and permissible uses of the facilities are,' sighed Christos Hadjiemmanuil, who heads the state-run company set up to oversee the sites. 'They [the Socialist former administration] were more concerned about not facing resistance during the building process than coming up with a strategy for the post-Olympic Games period.'

Cities bidding for future Olympics might learn a lesson or two, say Greek officials now working overtime to devise ways of cap italising on the extraordinary expense. Just maintaining the installations amounts to €60 million (£41.3m) a year. Since the Games, the eerily empty stadia have been rented out on short-term leases to the likes of pop singer Nick Cave, partying bank boards and the German car manufacturer BMW - a far cry from what most Greeks had envisaged.

'Financially the Games were a disaster,' says Hadjiemmanuil, a 41-year-old finance lawyer seconded from the London School of Economics to oversee the transition. 'We didn't need so many permanent venues; a lot of them could have been temporary. If London wins the [2012] bid, preparations could easily be a lot cheaper.'

But despite misgivings about overspending, the bespectacled academic says he is convinced the facilities are both 'viable and valuable... It would be very easy to convert some of the facilities to low-end commercial uses, like supermarkets for instance, but that's not the point,' he insists. 'The point is to find large-scale solutions that bring together culture, sports, entertainment, leisure and tourism.'

Venues rot as Greece loses its Olympic gains

Helena Smith in Athens
Sunday March 6, 2005
The Observer

Six months after the Athens Olympics, all is not well. Around the canoe-kayak course, in the city that hosted the world's 'unforgettable, dream games', lights that illuminated the site now swing, hopelessly, from cords of broken wire. It is hard not to miss the galloping necrosis enveloping so many of the 36 venues either purpose-built or upgraded for the Games. For the neglect does not end here.

On the other side of the Olympic facility, in the inner sanctum of the world-class basketball hall, the roof is leaking. Buckets, dexterously placed around its carpeted stadium, collect droplets the size of large coins. Across town, on the ancient Marathon route, the drains are clogged. They are also blocked at the multi-million-pound building that served as the press centre during the Games. And, at the rowing centre in Skoinias, the waters have turned stagnant brown. There, officials wonder what to do with a facility now widely decried as an environmental disaster.

One of the smallest nations ever to host the globe's biggest sports event, Greece had hoped the Olympics would transform its citizens' lives as never before. Instead, they are discovering that the 16-day bonanza may have been pure folly. This week, as their government prepares to release a long-awaited bill stipulating the venues' 'post-Olympic usage', many are wondering whether staging the Games was little more than an exercise in economic flagellation.

The biggest Olympics ever, and the most expensive in terms of security, the event is believed to have cost about £7 billion, five times more than originally expected. Such a bill, say economists, will take at least two decades to pay off with Greeks as yet unborn footing most of it.

'The hefty post-Olympics bill is already being compounded by the devaluation of the sports venues,' opined the authoritative daily Kathimerini, summing up the mood. 'And all the while, the collective memory of the euphoria of the Games continues to fade.'

Last week, the country's Alternate Culture Minister, Fani Palli-Petralia, admitted what Hellenes had feared most. 'We didn't have a reliable post-Olympics plan,' said the politician who headed preparations for the Games. 'Many venues were designed without their post-Olympics use in mind.'

On Tuesday, exactly 205 days after the Games opened in spectacular style, Athens's centre-right government will advertise around two dozen of the installations at one of the world's grandest real-estate fairs in Cannes. Officials hope that by showcasing the facilities, constructed in cities across Greece, international investors will be lured into snapping up lucrative leases, boosting the country's tourism.

'We've had to work through endless documents to identify what the exact legal position and permissible uses of the facilities are,' sighed Christos Hadjiemmanuil, who heads the state-run company set up to oversee the sites. 'They [the Socialist former administration] were more concerned about not facing resistance during the building process than coming up with a strategy for the post-Olympic Games period.'

Cities bidding for future Olympics might learn a lesson or two, say Greek officials now working overtime to devise ways of cap italising on the extraordinary expense. Just maintaining the installations amounts to €60 million (£41.3m) a year. Since the Games, the eerily empty stadia have been rented out on short-term leases to the likes of pop singer Nick Cave, partying bank boards and the German car manufacturer BMW - a far cry from what most Greeks had envisaged.

'Financially the Games were a disaster,' says Hadjiemmanuil, a 41-year-old finance lawyer seconded from the London School of Economics to oversee the transition. 'We didn't need so many permanent venues; a lot of them could have been temporary. If London wins the [2012] bid, preparations could easily be a lot cheaper.'

But despite misgivings about overspending, the bespectacled academic says he is convinced the facilities are both 'viable and valuable... It would be very easy to convert some of the facilities to low-end commercial uses, like supermarkets for instance, but that's not the point,' he insists. 'The point is to find large-scale solutions that bring together culture, sports, entertainment, leisure and tourism.'



Fuck off troll.

we have already been down this road. We know your hatred and jealousy of the Athens 2004 Olympics.

I leave you with this thought:

The state of some of the unused venues in Athens this articles claims are in is the same state your ENTIRE city is in. It's roads, buildings, sidewalks, homes, shanty towns, slums, and ghettos. Think about that.

If you want to come in here and ruin GoCaps's excellent, and peaceful, thread be ready to go down in flames. :badnews:

Ba.


It is a very bias article with little research done. I don't doubt alot of the stadia are sitting there wasting away, but that is only until they decide what to do with alot of them (making plans right now). I don't doubt the incompetence of the orginizers in many of the ways, but this is a bit much.



Cities bidding for future Olympics might learn a lesson or two, say Greek officials now working overtime to devise ways of cap italising on the extraordinary expense. Just maintaining the installations amounts to €60 million (£41.3m) a year. Since the Games, the eerily empty stadia have been rented out on short-term leases to the likes of pop singer Nick Cave, partying bank boards and the German car manufacturer BMW - a far cry from what most Greeks had envisaged.


They make no mention of such things as:

Olympic Stadium - AEK Athens football club play there.
Karaiskaki Stadium - Olympiakos football club play there.
Kaftanzoglio Stadium - Iraklis football club play there.
Panthessaliko Stadium - Niki Volou football club play there.
Pancretan Stadium - Ergotelis football club play there.

Peace & Friendship Arena - Olympiakos Basket team plays there.
Galatsi Areana - AEK Athens Basket team plays there.
OAKA Indoor Hall - Panathinaikos Basket team plays there.


Thats what comes to my head but there are more..... a final solution to the stadia which are not used is being made up....


I love the media. :|

Let's be honest here, all that should have been planned upfront!
This is not to say that the writer of that article is not having, for some reason, a vendetta against Greece!!

I agree.

ALOT of things were fvcked up.....

The previous government really messed up alot in their handling with the Olympic preperation. The new Government swooped in and made everything look ok, they did a good job to bring it all together but I wonder if they had a chance to start from the beginning how it would have turned out.... probably not much better. To much politics involved.

Hopefully they can resolve the situation and make some good plans for everything. Sometimes I hate to think what we really could have achieved if it werent for..... ourselves.

Some really nice pictures here also:


http://crssphotos.fotopic.net/c325833.html

i posted that article as i wanted to know if it was true thats all? sorry to offend anyone but i cant always trust online news.

LEAFS ηρέμησε λίγο... αμέσως ξέθαψες ότι κακό έχει η χώρα του ανθρώπου... δεν νομιζώ πως είναι σωστό,ή μάλλον είναι αρρωστημένο, να πιστευείς πως όλοι θέλουν το κακό της χώρας σου... και πιστεύω πρέπει να αναγνωρίσεις ότι κάποιες ολυμπιακές εγκαταστάσεις είναι...σκουπιδότοποι. ή κάνω λάθος?

Protou kanoume tin aytokritiki mas, kalo einai na koitame kai tin "proistoria" kapoion.

De mporei o kyrios aytos na erxetai se ena ASXETO THREAD me fotografies, na petaei san bomba ena arthro mias kyrias pou prin tous agones mas ethabe, kata ti diarkeia mas exymnouse, thabontas ti xora tis, kai tora mas xanathabei ...
kai meta na to paizei athoos kai me kales protheseis.

An ithele ONTOS na xekinisei gonimo dialogo kai KRITIKH, as anoige allo thread i' esto as synodeye to keimeno tou me kapoia sxolia dika tou pou tha exefraze tin anhsyxia tou ....(righttttttt).

O Leafs eixe apolyto dikio ston tropo antidrasis. Eidika se kapoion pou se threads gia to stadio / agones exei epideixei apisteyti paranoia, eno yiothetei pollakis kai to gnosto styl ton geitonon : rixno ti bomba, meta paristano ton athoo.

toulaxiston as exoun ta kotsia na kata-krinoun kai na ta "xonoun" eytheos kai oxi dolia.

Oso gia tous skoupidotous, ayto mporoume na to syzitisoume (opos kai to ti telika, ousiastika kerdisame apo tous agones, symfona me tis protes toulaxiston endeixeis).

Πάντως Μαρούσι μένω ρε παιδιά και μάλιστα αρκετά κοντά στο Ολυμπιακό Στάδιο αλλά Σκουπιδότοπους δεν έχω ακόμα δει στον βαθμό που περιγράφει το άρθρο θα έλεγα εντελώς αναξιόπιστο είναι

LEAFS ηρέμησε λίγο... αμέσως ξέθαψες ότι κακό έχει η χώρα του ανθρώπου... δεν νομιζώ πως είναι σωστό,ή μάλλον είναι αρρωστημένο, να πιστευείς πως όλοι θέλουν το κακό της χώρας σου... και πιστεύω πρέπει να αναγνωρίσεις ότι κάποιες ολυμπιακές εγκαταστάσεις είναι...σκουπιδότοποι. ή κάνω λάθος?

Kostya,

Exeis dikio....ALLA, ama pas kai deis ti asxima pragmata egrapse aftos o typos enantion tin Athina kai tin elada se ena allo thread pou legotan Athens 2004 vs. Sydney 2000, tha deis giati thimosa toso efkola.

Ama eixe vali to arthro kai meta mas rotouse merikes erotisis, then tha thimona, alla aftos molis eide to arthro, eirthe edo kai to evale xoris na pi tipota san na mas elege: "na vlakes! Koitakste ta xalia sas!!!"

Take care file!