Hobart

[CULWULLA]

My work collegue got to Hobart on weekend and took some piccies for me.
Hobarts tallest building-
AMP Centre-14st/58m/1968

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/4609/amphob3ow.jpg

Silo apartments conversion

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/1844/siloshobart2wn.jpg

tallest structure in tassie
Mt Wellington telstra mast 130m

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/685/mtwelltower5to.jpg

Australia's oldest catholic church
St Johns, Richmond 1836

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/6957/stjohns6df.jpg


scale model display of early Hobart in Richmond.
gorgeous bonsai trees and exceptional models.
heres one of St Johns church which at the time was 2nd tallest structure in Australia in 1830's.

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/9594/modelstjohns9py.jpg

[xzmattzx]

looks nice there. i'm a little surprised that the oldest catholic church was only from 1836. but then again most of australia is of british ancestry, which means protestant. or was australia not around for long when the church was built? any possible reasons the oldest catholic church was built that late?

[NZer]

Australia was only discovered by the british at the end of the 18th century.

[Oriolus]

There's not nearly enough photos of Hobart on here - nice teaser Cul. AMP looks good.

That's not the same St Johns in model and photo is it??

[below-0]

Australia was only discovered by the british at the end of the 18th century.

Australia was first discovered by Europeans in the 15thC by a Portugese explorer and later around early to mid 16thC by the more well known Dutch explorers. Speaking of Tasmania it was originally known as Van Diemen's Land the island below New Holland (Australia). Discovered by Abel Tasman 1642, naturally from the Nederlands.

http://www.abeltasman.org/tasmans.jpg

that AMP Building is a small version of the Sydney AMP building. So similair!

[CULWULLA]

looks nice there. i'm a little surprised that the oldest catholic church was only from 1836. but then again most of australia is of british ancestry, which means protestant. or was australia not around for long when the church was built? any possible reasons the oldest catholic church was built that late?
i said it was oldest catholic church. that doesnt mean it was first.there were many catholic as well as Anglican before 1800.Sydney first major cath church was St marys in 1821. Most churches then were wooden . St MArys burnt to the ground in 1865. A cathedral started after which is the cathedral which stands today.
Australia's oldest Anglican church is St Lukes @ Liverpool,NSw built 1819.
The oldest church in Australia is the Ebenezor church near Windsor,NSW built 1809.

[scared of heights!]

here is an aricle about new hotel proposed for macquarie street.
http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,12317142%255E3462,00.html

www.emporis.com does not have a picture of this building (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=169550)

[CULWULLA]

thanks for link scared! yes i havent got a pic yet , thus no pic on ss.com. but will try.
heres the thread about the hotel>>
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=181315

[xzmattzx]

i said it was oldest catholic church. that doesnt mean it was first.there were many catholic as well as Anglican before 1800.Sydney first major cath church was St marys in 1821. Most churches then were wooden . St MArys burnt to the ground in 1865. A cathedral started after which is the cathedral which stands today.
Australia's oldest Anglican church is St Lukes @ Liverpool,NSw built 1819.
The oldest church in Australia is the Ebenezor church near Windsor,NSW built 1809.

thanks for the info.

[CULWULLA]

some realestatedotcom
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9938/102729938ml1129071964.jpg

st georges church shining brightly over battery point
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5109/102725109ml1101116204.jpg

the quay should be getting a major make over soon.
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/1133/102511133ml1120110526.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5632/102285632ml1111104791.jpg

tallest units in tassie Empress towers

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4498/102714498ml1128478197.jpg


http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0842/102520842cl1120611177.jpg

[Nick]

I love the way the houses rise on the hill in this shot.Very similar to Nagasaki and Wellington,New Zealand

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5109/102725109ml1101116204.jpg

[CULWULLA]

^yes the church light up is St Georges at battery Point.
at over 107ft high, on completion in 1847, it was the 3rd tallest structure in Australia! amazing really.

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5109/102725109ml1146232800.jpg

view across to Sandy Point.
wrest point casino
at 21st/73m it is still tallest in tassie after 33 years.
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6286/103116286ml1144386004.jpg

[CULWULLA]

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6677/103216677ml1148617397.jpg

[shaggers_jr]

looks nice there. i'm a little surprised that the oldest catholic church was only from 1836. but then again most of australia is of british ancestry, which means protestant. or was australia not around for long when the church was built? any possible reasons the oldest catholic church was built that late?
There's quite a simple explanation: Catholicism was illegal until 1829 in the UK and Australia. Before then Catholicism was mostly underground and a number of priests and parishoners were severely punished.

[CULWULLA]

St Johns is the oldest "remaining" catholic church. there were many built before 1836.
St Marys in Sydney started in 1821.part of a wall is still extant.

[shaggers_jr]

I know.... but it's weird. They must have just tolerated it because so many of the convicts were Ctaholic or something because, officially, it was illegal. Quite a curious piece of history.

[Ordex]

thought I'd add a few piccies of Hobart I've taken lately (mostly taken at night)

A little something I took out my window (stupid powerlines and trees :mad: )
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8792/01citypanorama2gh.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/340/kif09055ro.jpg

AMP Building in background
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2521/kif09043fd.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8176/kif00930oo.jpg

Hobart Rivulet after a drop of rain
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1485/40rivulet0iv.jpg

[matt_sbs]

It ees that old Tassie has gone quiet with the Scrapers, where are all the developers

[MG2]

What's the rivulet?? Is it like a canal or something that runs through the city?

MG2

[Chuq]

What's the rivulet?? Is it like a canal or something that runs through the city?

MG2

Hi MG2,

Pretty much - it runs under a lot of the city, but it is exposed in some areas (such as in the pic above). You can see it on this map:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=-42.881357,147.331123&spn=0.011274,0.020127&om=1

If you switch to satellite view you will notice that through most of it's length it isn't visible at all.

The photo above was taken near corner of Collins St and Campbell St, at a guess!

[Ordex]

It ees that old Tassie has gone quiet with the Scrapers, where are all the developers

most likey being scared off by community groups and the stupid council>(

[CULWULLA]

developers really need to pull there head out and build a signature tower for the CBd. it would create interest and give some life to the city.
some recent piccies

cbd
http://static.flickr.com/113/261462855_7b8fffc5b0_b.jpg

58m/14st dominates CBD

http://static.flickr.com/101/252803985_52366f2611_o.jpg


nice art deco Mercury bldg

http://static.flickr.com/93/265997329_1a905b803f.jpg?v=0

classic T&G
http://static.flickr.com/98/263849506_76b792516e.jpg?v=0

elizabeth st mall
http://static.flickr.com/86/263849504_7acb9f60d8.jpg?v=0


http://static.flickr.com/108/260215692_3bfb66f3cd.jpg?v=0

mt wellington
http://static.flickr.com/92/256810310_0744c6579b_o.jpg

200ft tv tower dominates this view

http://static.flickr.com/90/252803910_21a9a19cf5_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/83/261462863_b55d55913a_b.jpg

north hobart

http://static.flickr.com/97/260685603_c1e7b74d05_o.jpg

hobart from mt wellington

http://static.flickr.com/87/260457429_b6f2e0786e_b.jpg

[Ordex]

totally agree culwulla
nice selection of pics there too

[Jimmy James]

Given that pretty much any tower development is probably going to come from state government needs rather than any serious business development then it's probably a good size. What they really need is to drive business growth in the city. Then more towers will follow.

[castrovalva]

Despite our desires for it, I just don't think there's any demand for a new big tower, developer, business or government. There has, however, been a lot of building going on in Hobart, as in other parts of Tasmania. Most of it in the form of new apartment buildings (up to about 7 storeys...), refurbishing older buildings, urban renewal, etc.

The govt is holding a competition (http://www.hwidc.tas.gov.au/) to redesign a large area adjacent to the waterfront where there's some good sites for a new tower. Perhaps this is the catalyst for development we are looking for.

[Ordex]

http://www.hwidc.tas.gov.au/ims/comp_area.jpg

[crawf]

nice pics cul!

[Davee]

Fantastic pictures - wow

make sure you Hobart people vote on this thread

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=412027

[shaggers_jr]

Hi MG2,

Pretty much - it runs under a lot of the city, but it is exposed in some areas (such as in the pic above). You can see it on this map:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=-42.881357,147.331123&spn=0.011274,0.020127&om=1

If you switch to satellite view you will notice that through most of it's length it isn't visible at all.

The photo above was taken near corner of Collins St and Campbell St, at a guess!

They should do more to capitalise on this. It's a unique feature in an an Australian city and quite picturesque.

[CULWULLA]

tassies tallest structure
130m telstra tower mt wellington

http://static.flickr.com/122/300624576_c4678af955.jpg?v=0

[CULWULLA]

still tassies tallest building since 1973.
Wrest point casino
19st/73m

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9339/wrstpointjd2.jpg

[city_thing]

Hobart looks beautiful, I really love the Rivulet (sic?) -probably just because I have a thing for canals.

[Danubis]

does mt wellington ever get snow on it?

[powlie]

http://www.hwidc.tas.gov.au/ims/comp_area.jpg

Those sheds just to the right of the area selected are in such prime real estate! WHY ARE THERE SHEDS THERE AND NOT APARTMENTS OR MIXED USE????!

Hobart reminds me of Gosford. That's always a good thing :ohno:



EDIT: Sorry, just realised that those sheds are converted apartments... my bad.

[CULWULLA]

some from flickr
apr18
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/471943078_b29d4e8c11_o.jpg

apr27
Battery point in backgrd

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/208/474299132_d342a4c5f0_o.jpg

customs house

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/477356260_d57f532607_b.jpg

Ross Bridge /Australia;s oldest 1823

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/477380259_401db8feed_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/469855290_dc21ae7d51_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/467171518_0ff14c5507_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/204/467184669_2cc0309814_o.jpg

st davids cathedral

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/174/467182789_6253da03ab_o.jpg

markets seem popular

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/467168286_0abc3676bb_o.jpg

Tasmanisa tallest structure-130m testra tower + 1270m Mt Wellington elevation= 1400m above sea level!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/467012643_5eb8f00553_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/467011865_ae9a25815e_o.jpg

[Rent a Kill]

So what exactly is going on with this building at the moment, does anybody know? Is it the penthouse projects that have been mentioned previously on some of these threads???.............

cant insert the pic.....

..new to this thing, can anyone tell me how to insert pictures????

[CULWULLA]

yes i remember. such a massive bldg.
from emporis-
In 2005, it was planned to erect a 2 level penthouse on the roof of this building, but as a result of the strengthening Hobart office market, the original plans have been modified and now the building will receive an extra two floors of office accommodation.
- The addition of the two extra floors of office space is expected to cost $6.5 million.

photo
click>
http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=459913

[Rent a Kill]

Is there any way I can post pictures of my own? Got some recent shots of the building undergoing construction of these add-on levels...

[CULWULLA]

yes, just join in free photo host site. like www.imageshack.us. or hit the BROWSE button and grab your photo from your pc.
you then upload your photos on the site.
and you simply copy its url address and post it in a thread. put this at front of address> and this at end
tel me how you go.

[Rent a Kill]

http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=govbuldingfz8.jpg

[Rent a Kill]

See if this works.....


http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4640/govbuldingfz8.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7149/citykk2.jpg

[Ordex]

nice pics rent-a-kill, although the first one looks a bit dated.
I keep meaning to take a piccy of this every day when I walk past but always forget :lol:

for anyone that is wondering, the first additional floor is well under way now.

The addition of the two extra floors of office space is expected to cost $6.5 million.

maybe I just want to see more high rises in Hobart (who doesn't?), but surely we could actually build a fairly large office block for $6.5mil?

and does anyone have any idea what the deal with the funny uneven vertical windows are?

and another thing, AFAIK the top section (where the funny vertical windows are) used to be the plant room...how have they managed to not need this anymore?:?

[Rent a Kill]

Yeah I guess that pic would be at least a couple of months old... It looks a bit different to that now.

No idea why the windows are staggered like that and all different sizes. It's bizzare.

[CULWULLA]

great rentakill. so is this addition finished now? yes would be nice for Hobart to actually build a new skyscraper. must be the most stagnated city in Australia? why? it has such promise.so much potential.

[south]

skyscrapers or no, hobart is a beautiful little city. i've spent many happy hours walking around the docks area and salamanca place. even in winter! it's all fine so long as there's boags on tap when my feet get tired.

[Ordex]

not finished yet Culwulla.
I'm about to walk to work, so I'll try to remember to take some pics this time on the way!

[Ordex]

as promised here are some pics I took on my way past:)

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1643/dsc00323vk0.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1975/dsc00324zm9.jpg

[LanceDriver]

Is there any way I can post pictures of my own? Got some recent shots of the building undergoing construction of these add-on levels...

There's now a sticky thread in skybar that has tips on this subject - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=472341

[LanceDriver]

excellent shots of hobart by the way!

[Danubis]

great rentakill. so is this addition finished now? yes would be nice for Hobart to actually build a new skyscraper. must be the most stagnated city in Australia? why? it has such promise.so much potential.

^^ i agree... it seems to be the only big city in australia that hasnt caught the construction boom :(

[dallas]

great rentakill. so is this addition finished now? yes would be nice for Hobart to actually build a new skyscraper. must be the most stagnated city in Australia? why? it has such promise.so much potential.


Not much population growth, and not much expectation of long term growth, and economically it always trails the other states and it doesn't have a single big corporation hq based in it's city. Even the apartment market will never really result in a lot of towers being built, not when you can own a decent house, which typically has a pretty good view (unless you live in the chavey northen suburbs), and you can drive to the centre of town in less time than it would take to drive along Punt Rd in Melbourne. It's a lovely town, but that's really all it will ever be, just a town.

[GaryinSydney]

Hi, i'll be visiting Hobart for the first time in July.

Can anyone please tell me what the shopping is like - apart from Salamanca Markets i have no idea what's there? I guess there is a downtown pedestrian street or Westfield Mall?

Thanks

[PalmerEldritch]

Hi, i'll be visiting Hobart for the first time in July.

Can anyone please tell me what the shopping is like - apart from Salamanca Markets i have no idea what's there? I guess there is a downtown pedestrian street or Westfield Mall?

Thanks
Just spent the weekend in Hobart (first trip to Tassie) and had a great time.

Main downtown pedestrian street is Elizabeth Street from what I could gather. Not much in terms of enclosed shopping malls other than 'Centrepoint' and 'Centro Cat & Fiddle'.

[CULWULLA]

whats this bldg? looks tall
new bldg built on carpark?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/101566399_41fbc3c2d9_o.jpg

[castrovalva]

Yes. It's an office on top of a carpark.

[lawson18]

what............that is strange

[Chuq]

whats this bldg? looks tall
new bldg built on carpark?


Building is called the Trafalgar Centre .. floors 1, 2 are retail/commerical, 3-12 are car park, then floors 13, 14 and 15 are offices. So 15 storeys, which is the highest in the CBD, but the 12 storey AMP building is taller.. presumably because the height of 1 storey of car park isn't as high as the average 1 storey.

The building was actually originally built like that - it isn't an add-on or anything!

[LanceDriver]

Yes, weird and a little ugly maybe.

[fozzy]

That is very wierd and very ugly. I hope they come up with a well designed modern building for hobart CBD. This city desperately needs something special on what is quite a boring skyline.

[CULWULLA]

some random shot
liverpool st. where else could you paint a sign on your property and see it from the nearby cBD? see top of hill "keens cure"

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/620503243_abda07aaef_b.jpg

[crawf]

See if this works.....

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7149/citykk2.jpg


That is just simply beautiful, great work! :)

[Chuq]

some random shot
liverpool st. where else could you paint a sign on your property and see it from the nearby cBD? see top of hill "keens cure"

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/620503243_abda07aaef_b.jpg

Looks like that shot was taken pre-Myer fire as well!

[Ordex]

the sign actually says "Keens Curry" :P

[Jesse24]

wow what a nice looking city! you should be proud!