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oh shit, just realised my mistake. David, can you transfer this thread to the Projects section? Cheers mate. :D

Cool...what building did you take those from? this project will surely be massive!

Cool...what building did you take those from? this project will surely be massive!
I took it from Wisma Nusantara, you know Hotel Nikko.
Talking about being massive, the original plan (pre-crisis) was even more massive:
http://img44.exs.cx/img44/3631/HotelIndonesiaRedevelopmentProject1.jpg
this one's a scaled down plan of the original :bash:

^I thought so...i've taken pics from that building once.

WOW...thats even more massive! incredible....but the current plan is pretty good too, nothing to cry about:D

GOOD NEWS: Grand Indonesia to include a 55 -storey Office Building!!

TOP INVESTMENTS IN ASEAN: INDONESIA

Grand Indonesia to offer new entertainment, shopping options
HOTEL Indonesia – the country’s first international-standard hotel – and its sister hotel Inna Wisata, are undergoing a total renovation and expansion.

The state-owned hotels were formerly under Hotel Indonesia Natour Group.

They have been taken over by PT Grand Indonesia (a Djarum cigarette manufacturing industry group) under a build-operate-transfer agreement for 30 years.

The project is expected to be ready by the first quarter of 2006. The whole area will be called Grand Indonesia.

Besides an upmarket hotel and apartments, the project includes shopping, business and entertainment facilities.

The shopping complex will take up an area of more than 120,000m2 spread over eight floors.

The interior will be divided into three themed areas, based on the brand and product positioning of classic, modern classic and futuristic.

The Apartments will be equipped with smart, hi-tech amenities providing tenants with wi-fi, a control panel that allows guests to adjust everything in the living area at the touch of a button and a security camera that enables guests to monitor their home through their cellphone.

The hotel will be an exclusive boutique property and will offer meeting and convention facilities for both big and small groups.

It will also be one of the tallest office buildings (55 floors) in Indonesia with modern facilities.

So that's what the tall building in the rendering used for.

I didnt know that the Hotel Indonesia management was taken over by Djarum, interesting fact.

what are they planning to build next to the hotel indonesia ??
http://img225.exs.cx/img225/1773/dsc015946zp.th.jpg

So that's what the tall building in the rendering used for.

I didnt know that the Hotel Indonesia management was taken over by Djarum, interesting fact.
its unclear at the moment, according to the rendering (not to be confused with the old rendering) there's at least one tower. It may well be the 55-storey office building.. however I'm quite doubtful because it doesn't look like its 55 storeys...looks more like a 35 storey building. So it may be the case that that rendering is not final.

Asia Boyz - read the article above. essentially they're planning to build a shopping complex (apparently the biggest in Jakarta), apartments and an office tower.

they should build a 75-stories tower!! how come jkt still not getting a super super tall??

well they're waiting for demand, but my feeling is a super tall is not too far in the horizon, I would say by 2010 we'll have a supertall in the city.

watch this site: www.grand-indonesia.com

still nothing in there though..

for a better rendering of this project, click here (http://www.cbre.com.sg/marketwatch/asia_edge_july_dec2003.pdf ) and open page 28

could someone post more pics of it and news ??

thankss!!!

so whats the latest news here? i thought this project was supposed 2 be one of the biggest in d city.....but no news for quite a while now....

Nice tower. Are thoses construction pics of the 55 story office Tower UC or just the whole complex in general?

Nice tower. Are thoses construction pics of the 55 story office Tower UC or just the whole complex in general?
the whole in complex in general...it'll be huge!

sooo...the tallest tower here...how tall is it gonna be then?
will it be tall??

It'll be 55 storeys, with 80,000 sqm office space (by comparison that Menara Karya building only has about 33,000 sqm). So this building will presumably be 2.5 times the size of Menara Karya.

a bit of info trickling in...there will be TWO towers. A 55+ storey office tower (as on the pic) and an apartment building of an unknown height (opposite Plaza Indonesia). The mall will be completed by mid next year, and then followed by completion of the towers.

Hmm...from what I can gather so far, this project appears to consist of:
- a mall (the biggest in Jakarta upon completion)
- a luxurious boutique hotel (Hotel Indonesia)
- a 55+ storey office tower
- a 35 storey residential

I can do that pdf --> jpeg trick now , using my laptop. :D
http://img130.echo.cx/img130/6110/grandindonesia0mz.png

hey guys, new info just in. The residential tower will be 40 storeys tall, not 35 as reported (although it may just be marketing). cheers.

wow biggest shopping center in jakarta mean more bigger than taman anggrek? :eek2:

but they said got one residential tower & one office tower but from the rendering it only got one tower where is the other one?

i think this building will become one of highest in jakarta
anyone know how tall is it in meter?

http://img106.echo.cx/img106/8865/grandindonesia8io.jpg

yes, I think the office tower will be one of the tallest once completed. I don't know how tall it is in metres, but my guess is it'll be 200-250m.

why is it hard to get to 300m+ high rise building in jakarta

btw thanks alvin!

any idea when it is finished?

maybe it has to do with earthquake (?) or the soft jakartan soil ( ? ) and I had the same question as encon . when will it be completed ?

yo, as Wopde explained earlier, building a supertall tower needs two things:
1. supporting market conditions/financial feasibility (i.e. there will be tenants who will occupy the building)
2. Money - because building one 100-storey building is more costly than building two 50-storey buildings. If land is plenty, developers tend to build several short towers rather than a supertall.
I think its only a matter of time before Jakarta's land would be scarce enough that developers would be forced to build taller towers...

The mall will be completed by Mid-2006, the towers probably in the 3rd or 4th quarter 2006.

june 09 2005

shopping place:
http://img18.echo.cx/img18/8720/dsc010203iu.jpg

hotel:
http://img18.echo.cx/img18/5375/dsc010217nt.jpg

http://img18.echo.cx/img18/8141/dsc010234vx.jpg

12 June 2005 :
http://img292.echo.cx/img292/3826/12605hi8qn.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img292.echo.cx/img292/3826/12605hi8qn.jpg

25 June 2005:

http://img105.echo.cx/img105/545/25605hi18pq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img105.echo.cx/img105/545/25605hi18pq.jpg

http://img105.echo.cx/img105/7674/25605hi29ob.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img105.echo.cx/img105/7674/25605hi29ob.jpg

http://img105.echo.cx/img105/2011/25605hi33qw.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img105.echo.cx/img105/2011/25605hi33qw.jpg

the scale of this project is mindblowing...thanks for thje pics.

Btw, that thing u/c behind Ascott, is that Jakarta City Center?

hi guys.. i have a question. today my mom's friend came form jakarta to visit her. she's the widow of jakarta's supposed most famous lawyer, gani djemaat (i dont know if thats how you spell it but.. yeah hehe ) and my mom says that gani djemaat has a 30 story building infront of the mandarin hotel called the djemaat building ... i think. my question is.. is it that green building with the mercedes sign on it?

oh and thanks for the pics joko :)

hi guys.. i have a question. today my mom's friend came form jakarta to visit her. she's the widow of jakarta's supposed most famous lawyer, gani djemaat (i dont know if thats how you spell it but.. yeah hehe ) and my mom says that gani djemaat has a 30 story building infront of the mandarin hotel called the djemaat building ... i think. my question is.. is it that green building with the mercedes sign on it?
I'm not sure what that building is called, but i've never heard of 'djemaat building' before. All i know is that building is headquarters of Deutsche Bank...and some foreign consulates

hi guys.. i have a question. today my mom's friend came form jakarta to visit her. she's the widow of jakarta's supposed most famous lawyer, gani djemaat (i dont know if thats how you spell it but.. yeah hehe ) and my mom says that gani djemaat has a 30 story building infront of the mandarin hotel called the djemaat building ... i think. my question is.. is it that green building with the mercedes sign on it?

Gani Djemaat has an office in a building behind Deutche Bank --building with mercedes sign. It's very short one while DB's is, 30th storeys? Hes probably the owner of both building. Dont know.

See picture below, the buildings I'm talking about

http://img61.echo.cx/img61/7924/gani1ye.jpg

Tata

the scale of this project is mindblowing...thanks for thje pics.

Btw, that thing u/c behind Ascott, is that Jakarta City Center?


Yes that is Jakarta City Center and The Jakarta Residences(??) in one complex

thanks for the responses. i think that building is his because mona said that it was thirty stories high..

hehe and i think that the mandarin hotel needs a facelift.. did u know taht they closed down one of the levels because it's haunted? my uncle said that last time when he was staying there the faucet went on out of nowhere and he saw a shadow and the tablelamp started moving.. this was all afterhe said that he didnt believe in ghosts that night.. pretty creepy huh? so he ran downstairs in his underwear and they closed down that room/level :runaway:

hehe and i think that the mandarin hotel needs a facelift.. did u know taht they closed down one of the levels because it's haunted? my uncle said that last time when he was staying there the faucet went on out of nowhere and he saw a shadow and the tablelamp started moving.. this was all afterhe said that he didnt believe in ghosts that night.. pretty creepy huh? so he ran downstairs in his underwear and they closed down that room/level :runaway:

:eek2: hope there will be a scientific explanation in the future.. :D

the jakarta city center is really huge and jakarta residence is consisting tow storey houses and two apartment

The Jakarta Residence..... a new project or am I just overwhelmed with its naming? We got Sudirman Park, Sudirman Place, Sudirman Residence, Sudirman This, Sudirman That and now Jakarta Residence which earlier I thought it was Sudirman Residence....

Can someone help?

The Jakarta Residence..... a new project or am I just overwhelmed with its naming? We got Sudirman Park, Sudirman Place, Sudirman Residence, Sudirman This, Sudirman That and now Jakarta Residence which earlier I thought it was Sudirman Residence....

Can someone help?
jakaera residence is the new projects of low houses and two apartments tower located inside or near jakarta city center

also new one is Hampdons Park at pondok Indah consisting of 2 tower i will post the pics as i already have the brochure:D

hope this will help ;)

jakaera residence is the new projects of low houses and two apartments tower located inside or near jakarta city center

also new one is Hampdons Park at pondok Indah consisting of 2 tower i will post the pics as i already have the brochure:D

hope this will help ;)
Ahh Hampdon's Park, I heard of that project, look forward to your pics. post it in a new thread, encon...cheers

Ahh Hampdon's Park, I heard of that project, look forward to your pics. post it in a new thread, encon...cheers


of course !

shouldn't it be hampton's?

shouldn't it be hampton's?
yes, Hampton's...sorry :)

anyone close to project?
is Martin involved much with the project? the way like Tan Kian
with his Marriott/Ritz and Pacific Place development?

20 june 2005:

http://img238.echo.cx/img238/130/dsc012870nv.jpg

http://img238.echo.cx/img238/9585/dsc012864xp.jpg

http://img238.echo.cx/img238/1807/dsc012853sw.jpg

http://img238.echo.cx/img238/2765/dsc012885zd.jpg

sigh< so many new shopping malls....!!! i wish i was at indo right now~

9 July 2005 :

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/4640/9705hi12je.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/4640/9705hi12je.jpg

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/6171/9705hi28wv.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/6171/9705hi28wv.jpg

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/417/9705hi8zx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/417/9705hi8zx.jpg

I took these 7 July 2005, from Wisma Nusantara 28th floor:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8862/grandindonesia12my.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4126/grandindonesia27sb.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3926/grandindonesia33iz.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4931/grandindonesia45ek.jpg

thanks for the updates

lol i find it funny how there are eight cars right next to each other when the roundabout only has 5 lanes. that roundabout defintely doesnt look to healthy..

and i heard that in jakarat people dont really pay attention to the lanes. they just squeeze into whatever gap's available making the roads a big mess as can be seen by the picture below.

they definitely need to fix that

Ugh.. those are taxis. I dont like taxi drivers. Doesnt matter where, most of them are equally bad.

thanks for the updates

lol i find it funny how there are eight cars right next to each other when the roundabout only has 5 lanes. that roundabout defintely doesnt look to healthy..

and i heard that in jakarat people dont really pay attention to the lanes. they just squeeze into whatever gap's available making the roads a big mess as can be seen by the picture below.

they definitely need to fix that


yes yes

:bash: what a hoax

www.grand-indonesia.com turned out to be some kind of search engine

:bash: what a hoax

www.grand-indonesia.com turned out to be some kind of search engine
u serious??? how do u know?

cuz i went there and it's a search engine

cuz i went there and it's a search engine
I went there and its still underconstruction.. :weird:

I went there and its still underconstruction.. :weird:

I open it and got this:

The future site of grand-indonesia.com

got what? i can't see anything

got what? i can't see anything

Text:
The future site of grand-indonesia.com

Oh, maybe thats search engine is the default domain park page by the domain host company.

yea i think thats it.. cuz its back to normal now.. sorry heh

so whats the progress here? any picas? any news?

indo forum thesedays seem dead no new construction pics

indo forum thesedays seem dead no new construction pics
at least we have Joko ;)

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?cityID=750 says that the office tower is going to be 220 meters high. wonder where they got that from

oh and why is the site down?
and why arent there any decent renderings of this projecT?

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?cityID=750 says that the office tower is going to be 220 meters high. wonder where they got that from

oh and why is the site down?
and why arent there any decent renderings of this projecT?

yah wonderring also where they get from

oh and does anyone know why the site isnt working anymore?

oh and does anyone know why the site isnt working anymore?
what site? it was never up was it?

well there was a "coming soon" site at www.grand-indonesia.com

but now it doesnt work at all

28 September 2005 :
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7546/1gi8me.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7546/1gi8me.jpg

^^ what is the u/c building behind Shangri-la hotel??

^^ what is the u/c building behind Shangri-la hotel??

Sudirman Park..

28 September 2005 :
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7546/1gi8me.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7546/1gi8me.jpg

:eek: So many cranes! Wow

1 October 2005:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2948/1gi10wa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2948/1gi10wa.jpg

jek...kapan selsainya project ini?

^^ 2006/7 kali ??

few days ago i dream that the Grand Indonesia finish u/c already they painted the color of the wall same as PIM 2

few days ago i dream that the Grand Indonesia finish u/c already they painted the color of the wall same as PIM 2
that would be a disaster....haha

few days ago i dream that the Grand Indonesia finish u/c already they painted the color of the wall same as PIM 2

funny and scary...
how come you have a dream of a skyscraper?

This is so far what we got in indo360.com ->http://www.indo360.com/article/project.asp?projectid=236276 , I hope the information is correct ^_^.

This is so far what we got in indo360.com ->http://www.indo360.com/article/project.asp?projectid=236276 , I hope the information is correct ^_^.
Just a feedback, it definitely won't be finished by April 2006. I think late 2006 is more like it...

guys.. i just checked the website.. it's back to normal now.. 'the future site of grand-indonesia' Can't wait to see the full and fixed rendering!! hopefully the website will be up soon!!

funny and scary...
how come you have a dream of a skyscraper?


i'm not sure too :D

i dream about 3 skyscraper last week (not sure the last one)

dang u even dream about it...hihi ...

Grand Indonesia will finish in september 2006.

http://www.kompas.co.id/kompas-cetak/0510/28/ekonomi/2162225.htm

60 Persen Mal Grand Indonesia Disewa Asing

Sekalipun pembangunan belum tuntas, tetapi 60 persen ruang pada pusat perbelanjaan Grand Indonesia di kawasan Hotel Indonesia telah dipesan sejumlah perusahaan asing ternama. Penyewa asing itu antara lain produsen Cartier, Gucci, Burbery, Bottega Venetta, Bally, Time Palace, Prada, Jimmy Choo, Vertu, Harry Winston, Omega, Miu Miu, Francesco Biasia, Longchamp, dan Moreschi. ”Bahkan, lebih dari 30 merek internasional yang akan membuka butik pertama mereka di Indonesia. Central Dept Store dari Thailand berencana menggunakan lahan seluas 41.000 meter persegi. Blitz Cinema, jaringan bioskop terbaru dari Singapura, hadir dengan 11 studio mewah,” kata Managing Director Grand Indonesia Frans Lazaro di Jakarta, Kamis (27/10). Di kawasan Hotel Indonesia sedang dibangun dua pusat perbelanjaan. Pada Mal A seluas 80.000 meter persegi dan Mal B seluas 70.000 meter persegi. Termasuk juga dua gedung perkantoran dan apartemen yang masing-masing berlantai 57, sedangkan untuk hotel tetap memanfaatkan dua gedung lama dengan kapasitas 260 kamar. Kawasan itu mulai dibuka pada September 2006. (JAN)

WOHOO!! jimmy choo!!! :banana2:

wow .. bottega harrwy winston jimmychoo.. that is some pretty high-end fashion.. good job jakarta

but i have a quesotin.. shouldnt they already have cartier, guci, burberry, prada and all that stuff in plaza indonesia.. whcih is.. right across from gran dindonesia?

wow .. bottega harrwy winston jimmychoo.. that is some pretty high-end fashion.. good job jakarta

but i have a quesotin.. shouldnt they already have cartier, guci, burberry, prada and all that stuff in plaza indonesia.. whcih is.. right across from gran dindonesia?

Hmm, I'm not too sure. Because a lot of designer brands are also located in Plaza Senayan. ANd if I"m not mistaken, Gucci does not have an outlet in Indonesia at the moment, they pulled out after the 1998 crisis. Someone confirm?

This will only be the 4th Jimmy Choo outlet in Asia after Hongkong, Korea and Taiwan (not in any order)!

And as I said that area will be one massive retail complex once Grand Indonesia and the extension of Plaza Indonesia are completed....can't wait!

yeah! hey but is jimmy choo gon' b a monobrand boutique or just multi brand boutique? why does no one open Chanel or like.. Marni.. or Marc Jacobs// :(

Hmm, I'm not too sure. Because a lot of designer brands are also located in Plaza Senayan. ANd if I"m not mistaken, Gucci does not have an outlet in Indonesia at the moment, they pulled out after the 1998 crisis. Someone confirm?

Actually, it might be Chanel, not Gucci, that closed down in 1998....

Hmm, I'm not too sure. Because a lot of designer brands are also located in Plaza Senayan. ANd if I"m not mistaken, Gucci does not have an outlet in Indonesia at the moment, they pulled out after the 1998 crisis. Someone confirm?

not true. they have gucci in plaza indonesia. most branded boutiques are in plaza indonesia too,, and i thought gucci's coming soon in plaza senayan, no?

i think that jakarta is up to par with singapore, n thailand when it comes to international brands. bujt again.. most of the high end consumersi n singapore are indonesians..

but anwyay.. that means that that rendering of grand indonesia isn't the final one, because it only shows one office tower, when really theres going to be 2 office towers and 1 residential tower. i cant wait to see the new renders

great news for grand Indonesia :okay:

Grand Indonesia will finish in september 2006.
Blitz Cinema, jaringan bioskop terbaru dari Singapura, hadir dengan 11 studio mewah,”[/b] kata Managing Director Grand Indonesia Frans Lazaro di Jakarta,




Blitz Cinema ?? from Singapore never heard :weird: ??


I will try to check it out seems that mall didn't want to use Stuido XXI already :D

Maybe its operating under different brand in Singapore. Blitz already registered as a cafe in Indonesia.

^^ maybe :D

not true. they have gucci in plaza indonesia. most branded boutiques are in plaza indonesia too,, and i thought gucci's coming soon in plaza senayan, no?


they have in both PI and PS

check this website
http://www2.gucci.com/int/uk-english/store-locator/

Grand Indonesia will finish in september 2006.

http://www.kompas.co.id/kompas-cetak/0510/28/ekonomi/2162225.htm

60 Persen Mal Grand Indonesia Disewa Asing

Sekalipun pembangunan belum tuntas, tetapi 60 persen ruang pada pusat perbelanjaan Grand Indonesia di kawasan Hotel Indonesia telah dipesan sejumlah perusahaan asing ternama. Penyewa asing itu antara lain produsen Cartier, Gucci, Burbery, Bottega Venetta, Bally, Time Palace, Prada, Jimmy Choo, Vertu, Harry Winston, Omega, Miu Miu, Francesco Biasia, Longchamp, dan Moreschi. ”Bahkan, lebih dari 30 merek internasional yang akan membuka butik pertama mereka di Indonesia. Central Dept Store dari Thailand berencana menggunakan lahan seluas 41.000 meter persegi. Blitz Cinema, jaringan bioskop terbaru dari Singapura, hadir dengan 11 studio mewah,” kata Managing Director Grand Indonesia Frans Lazaro di Jakarta, Kamis (27/10). Di kawasan Hotel Indonesia sedang dibangun dua pusat perbelanjaan. Pada Mal A seluas 80.000 meter persegi dan Mal B seluas 70.000 meter persegi. Termasuk juga dua gedung perkantoran dan apartemen yang masing-masing berlantai 57, sedangkan untuk hotel tetap memanfaatkan dua gedung lama dengan kapasitas 260 kamar. Kawasan itu mulai dibuka pada September 2006. (JAN)

Website of the Boutiques :D
Jimmy Choo
http://www.jimmychoo.com/index_flash.html

Moreschi:
http://www.moreschi.it/eng/new_home.htm

Bottega Venetta
http://www.bottegaveneta.com/

Harry Winston
http://www.harry-winston.com/loader.html

Francesco Biasia
http://www.biasia.com/

i highly doubt that singapore/thailand even have jimmychoo/harrywinston/bottega(maybe) soo jakarta is even more advanced than them here

anddd.. im right.. none of them have jimmy choo or harry winston.. and only singapore has bottega

^^ I have never seen those Boutiques in Singapore

really

harry winston is the creme de la crop of jewelry.. you can only go into the one on rodeo by private special appointment, and even then therye still very snobbish, because last timej when my grandma went there to make jewlery , they hinted to the rest of us (me n my cousins ) to go somewhere else... they were like.. yeah u should check this n this boutique out while ur grandma makes her jewlery.. soemthing like that...

so yeah goodjob jakarta on ur harrywinstonization

gucci was, and is still open in PS. Bottega Veneta is already open at Plaza Indo.

so.....Central Department Store?

Great one! :okay:

Grand Indonesia offers new shopping experience
Tantri Yuliandini, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

"Build it and they will come" said the character that Kevin Costner played in the 1989 movie Field of Dreams, a quote which also seems to be the byword for the management of PT Grand Indonesia, which is constructing a 7-hectare hotel-apartment-shopping mall-office complex in the city center.

But in times of economic downturn like these, and with many other malls under construction, will they really come?

Grand Indonesia managing director Frans H. Lazaro thinks so.

"People will come wherever there are shopping malls. The more there are in one location, the more people will come. Just take a look at what happened in Singapore," he said on Thursday.

Built beside the Hotel Indonesia traffic circle in Central Jakarta, the Grand Indonesia complex is in a prime spot, although it will be in direct competition with neighboring Plaza Indonesia and Plaza EX.

"We have a very strong location here, and I think instead of being in competition with the Plaza Indonesia complex, we will complement each other," Frans said on the sidelines of an event to introduce Grand Indonesia to prospective tenants.

The Rp 2.3 trillion (about US$230 million) complex is being built on the property of the historic Hotel Indonesia and the former state-owned Hotel Wisata. PT Grand Indonesia -- 75 percent owned by cigarette-maker PT Djarum through its subsidiary PT Cipta Karya Bumi Indah -- will operate the complex through a 30-year built-operation-transfer (BOT) agreement with the government.

When it opens in September 2006, the complex will boast the largest high-end shopping mall in the country, with 150,000 square meters of rentable space, and at 57 floors, will be the tallest office tower in Indonesia.

To date, about 60 percent of the shopping space has been rented, the largest tenant being Thailand's Central Department Store that rented 41,000 square meters.

Renji Betari, an employee of PT CB Richard Ellis Indonesia -- Grand Indonesia's marketing agent -- said the Grand Indonesia Shopping Town would comprise of two malls connected by a bridge over Jl. Teluk Betung.

Mall A, located on the HI traffic circle, will house high-end boutiques, while the building replacing Hotel Wisata will be used for entertainment and leisure, including a movie theater chain from Singapore.

Hotel Indonesia -- the country's first high-rise hotel -- was constructed in 1959 with war reparations from Japan. The work was undertaken by Japan's Taisei Corporation and in 1961, the New York-based Inter-Continental Hotel Corporation took over management. The Hotel Indonesia Inter-Continental officially opened on Aug. 5, 1962.

The renovations to Hotel Indonesia that are currently underway are meant to bring back the hotel to its original condition, removing the additional lobby canopy that architects say has ruined the modernist design.

And the new high-rise structure around it would be designed to harmoniously compliment the original building's modernism, Frans said.

"All of the hotel's original architecture will be preserved, but we have to change the material because the existing material is already more than 40 years old."

This time around, Singapore's The Fullerton group will manage the hotel, creating a five-star Hotel Indonesia The Fullerton. The chain was chosen because it was experienced in managing hotels designed on heritage buildings, Frans said.

The Fullerton will also manage Grand Indonesia's luxury serviced apartments.

The department store, Grand Indonesia Shopping Town, has a target market that includes 28 percent of Jakarta's citizens, at least 5 percent of Indonesia's population, and foreign visitors.

Is the new cinema can compete with cineplex 21??
Since I heard the monopolize the market in Indonesia, its means new movie always show in cineplex 21 first then the other cineplex

wow the Fullerton Hotel Managment ?? it is great ! :D

so What the Name of the Hotel?

Grand Indonesia/Grand Fullerton??

Some Fullerton Pics :D by me

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and of course I wish Grand Indonesia will light up something like this as it is same managment :D

http://img223.exs.cx/img223/5771/fullerton1wu.jpg

Encon, as it says in the article, the name of the new hotel will be "Hotel Indonesia The Fullerton"...I think it is wise if they keep the "Hotel Indonesia" brand name because it has historical value. I would be a bit sad if they changed the hotel name to "Grand Indonesia" or simply "The Fullerton".

^^ then it is more Great news :D

super happy and excited about it!!

I just realised how huge this project is gonna be. With 150,000 sqm of retail space, it is even bigger than Taman Anggrek at 1,500,000 sf or approx 140,000 sqm. GI will officially be the biggest shopping center in the city, I think...

well I hope its much Better than Fullerton Hotel hehe :tongue4:

xcited ma project ini jeek...

cepetan deh di bangun..

two of my fave..

GI and PP! :D:D

dont worry guys, its been proven.
The workers work hard to the max.
even today , only couple of days away from idul fitri celebration , theyre still workin 24 hours a day

fast fast fast...


cheers,
otanx

i highly doubt that singapore/thailand even have jimmychoo/harrywinston/bottega(maybe) soo jakarta is even more advanced than them here


i wanna go shopping there !!!! :)

really respect those workers

yeah..mad props to them

oh my.. but the workers still fast rite?? poor them.. but well done as well!!i heard uang sewa in grand indonesia is so much cheaper than plaza indo, so many tenants wanna move to grand indo. in kl, singapore, etc.. they dont have jimmy choo and all those stuff as a boutique itself. they have it in multibrand boutique though..

4 November 2005:

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nice pics, cannot wait untill its done

this is a hell of a project, a testament of the fact that Jakarta is on the rise!!

:cheer: Jakarta go, go , go.

soo many cranes
:eek2::eek2:

Wow, this project is going up REAL fast! Not long ago there's nothing more than a hole in the ground, now the construction is up to the first floor already! :)

have u guys heard about the new siam paragon in bangkok
they will have their grand opening soon , in couple of months if im not mistaken

u reckon grand indonesia is gonna be something better than the paragon or ....

how bout the size , paragon will be 300 000sm2 , grand indonesia ???


(http://paragonbangkok.tripod.com/ >>> check this website out )


cheers,

otanx

have u guys heard about the new siam paragon in bangkok
they will have their grand opening soon , in couple of months if im not mistaken

u reckon grand indonesia is gonna be something better than the paragon or ....

how bout the size , paragon will be 300 000sm2 , grand indonesia ???


(http://paragonbangkok.tripod.com/ >>> check this website out )


cheers,

otanx

Wow, 300,000 sqm - that's huge! But it includes everythign, not just retail. market, cultural center, hall, parking lot etc.

I think Grand Indonesia will have a bigger retail area - 150,000 sqm, an 80,000 sqm (57F) office tower and an apartment.

ok.. just to reconfirm myself.. this grand indonesia is gonna cnosist of the shopping mall, office tower and apartment hey?
how tall are the office and apartment towers?

ok.. just to reconfirm myself.. this grand indonesia is gonna cnosist of the shopping mall, office tower and apartment hey?
how tall are the office and apartment towers?

the shopping malls will be 8 storeys, the office will be 57 stories while the apartment will reportedly be 40 stories. that's all the info we have so far..
oh, and it is claimed that the 57 storey tower will be the tallest office tower in Indonesia. But then I don't buy this claim, not after the Peak ;)

yeah...
true true.. we cant believe whatever they say anymore.. and as always happens in Indonesia.. halfway the project, they will change the design or scrap the tower due to financial problem or other stupir reasons.. like what happened to Mega Glodok Kemayoran.. from 2 gorgeous towers to one short ugly looking tower.. ahhaha

Hopefully this project goes on to completion...

aand talking about finance and money.. this is probably out of the topic.. but I just watched Frontlines of Construction on National Geographic.. and this week's show is about Dubai... they had this project... the marina or something .. where they construct man made rivers/creeks/lagoons whatever u wanna call it.. and build a city for 100.000 people along those rivers...
They had a major problem of having an 8-lane highway in the way of the man made river... they had to change the design due to the highway and that'll cost more money and more time.. so .. one of the architects involved just jokingly suggested.. " why dont we move the highway?" and the client (some rich bastard hahaha) said "exellent idea" and walaaa.. they moved the 8-lane highway 300m to the east of the existing highway....
this only happens in Dubai.. 'sigh'

:P

^^
Wow...
That what I call a story

Dubai always impressed me all the way

wow go dubai!

wow really rich of them to do that! I wonder if Dubai & the middle East will still be rich after the world uses Fuel Cell instead of Oil? :soon:

i have a question.. if theyr're gonna build the mall right smack next to the hotel, then wouldn't the hotel window/balcony views be only of the mall's solid wall..?

57 lantai paling cuma omongan aja...

kayanya Kota BNI bakalan tetep jadi gedung tertinggi di jakarta deh dalam berapa tahun ini... sampe PP Phase 2 selsai..(kalo itu jadi di bangun)

i have a question.. if theyr're gonna build the mall right smack next to the hotel, then wouldn't the hotel window/balcony views be only of the mall's solid wall..?

well... I dont think there would be rooms on the ground floor and the 1st to maybe 4th floor... that's just my guess..
cause usually hotel lobbies are quite high.. floor to ceiling height wise.. and there might be some restaurants or other facilities that will occupy the ground till probably 4th 5th floor up...

that's my guess anyway.. :)

well... I dont think there would be rooms on the ground floor and the 1st to maybe 4th floor... that's just my guess..
cause usually hotel lobbies are quite high.. floor to ceiling height wise.. and there might be some restaurants or other facilities that will occupy the ground till probably 4th 5th floor up...

that's my guess anyway.. :)

Yes, but the mall will be 8 storeys tall. so yeah, they won't get a very good view..just the mall and what's under it.

it'd be clever if they incorporated the hotel into the mall.. like if they made the mall seem as though it were outdoors (a glass ceiling and all), and just have the balconies sticking out into the mall..

HEyyyyy check Skyscraperpage.com for jakarta They just Update it! its still gonna be shorter than Wisma 46!

Yes I already saw it
But no height measure in there

btw...
Cyber Estate Tower is shorter than Wisma 46 but why they put it in no 2??

Is this crane located in Grand Indonesia project????


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c262/dave_win4/jakarta/sett.jpg

yes :D

so they start already
hehe I didnt know before

i highly doubt that singapore/thailand even have jimmychoo/harrywinston/bottega(maybe) soo jakarta is even more advanced than them here


We have got Jimmy Choo and Harry winston Boutique at SIAM PARAGON bangkok.you guys might want to check it out while this Grande complex undercontruction..

Central Department store?? Whoa! nice to have it there

is it really nice CENTRAL??

so they start already
hehe I didnt know before

Wadaaaooo ... sejak bulan Juni juga udah mulai itu mah :D

is it really nice CENTRAL??


In bangkok,Central department store chain is one of the most Hip and well-known.The present flagship store located at the heart of town called CENTRAL CHIDLOM.Their flagship store is the place for most celebs to hang-out..They have a vibrant service,brilliant interior,trendy food court,Boutique SPORT wears such as billabong,Puma,roxy,quicksilver,nike,adidas,energie,miss sixty etc and featuring the hippiest housebrand.For example,Burberry,Dunhill,Kate spade,mont blanc,Hugo boss,bally,Vivienne Tam,Juicy Couture,Anne Klein, Kai,Diesel,Marc Jacobs,Francesa Biasia,Evisu Jeans,Moschino jeans,Furla,aigner and chacarel etc.Furthermore,It has an incredible Heaven beauty zone which features International cosmetic brands from Europe, america and Asia such as MAC STUDIO from NYC,Biotherm First Concept spa in asia,CLINIQUE CX Which available a few store around the world,CHANEL make up studio,SPa threatment PAYOT, Nars, DDF, Cosme de Corte Beaute de Kose, Biotherm, Bloom, Bobbi Brown, Chanel, Christian Dior, Clarins, Cle de Peau, Clinique, Cosme Decorte, Covermark, DDF, Elizabeth Arden, Estee Lauder, Ettusias, Guerlain, Helena Rubinstein, Ipsa, Jurlique, Kanebo, La Mer, Lancome, La Prairie, Laura Mercier, L’Occitane, MAC, Nars, Natura Blisse, Origins, Payot, Philosophy, Red Earth, Revlon, RMK, Shiseido, Shu Uemura, Sisley, SK II, Stila, The Body Shop, Valmont, Yves Saint Laurent,Marks & Spencer, Clarins Institute, Lancome Institute and Jurlique Spa.Moreover,In the year 2006.they gonna have the new flagship store at CENTRAL WORLD PLAZA.Central World features two department stores, Isetan and Zen. The latter will be expanded to an area of 50,000 square metres.it goin to be the one of the most spectacular mall in town.Although the new comer like siam paragon comin to town,But it still being one of the chic department stores.somehow,I'm not sure they gonna have the same bangkok concept style in abroad.I would say Don't worry you can count on this chain..

let's take a look present Central flagship STORE

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1333/5480000197842045gt.jpg
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here's the New flagship store CENTRAL WORLD PLAZA
PART I
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=164248
PART II
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=280708

im not suprised of bangkok! ... of course they have it..haha

so great :okay:

Joko, any new updates on this one?

30 Nov 2005 (bit too far, sorry) :

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^^ wow, it's rising up from the ground. :runaway:

Gile cepet banget :eek:

btw Alvin can u update the Jakarta Boomtown list and thread?? (cos I seldom online here ;) ?

cool! finnallyy

UPCOMING luxury mall :D !!

guess what this project consist more than 12 cranes!!

when u go to that area just like they making BD :D lots of cranes in that area not to mention Jakarta City Center cranes :eek2:

yeah, i saw this morning...

unfortunately i didn't bring my camera...

but, i promise at the end oh this month i'll take the pictures....

i heard it's fast bcoz they dont plant it very deep into the ground.. but i cant wait for GI project to b finishedddddddddddd!! >_<

Surprise, I'm in Jkt now and I passed GI construction today...OMG it must have something like 15 cranes on the site! It's absolutely massive, and it seems to be going up in breathtaking pace.

Unfort I cannot post any pics at the moment..

who is the developer?

this project is huge!!!

when will it be finish again?

10 January 2006 :

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when will it be finish again?

in the news it said in April 2006 but I bet its gonna be 2007

Seems like April 2006 is a pretty impossibly deadline. End 2006 is possible, but not April IMO.

we will see what happen in the future

Seems like April 2006 is a pretty impossibly deadline. End 2006 is possible, but not April IMO.

Certainly NOT April 2006, though I think end-2006 (November/December) is possible.

maybe the hotel reopensf in april? thats possible :)

look what i found, new render

http://www.signweb.com/moving/cont/urbanscreens.html

Yeah, its possible if the refurbishing of the hotel is completed by April 06 I think.

Btw, the new rendering isn't as sweet as the one we've seen so far, but I guess the LED video screens will make up for that :D :D :D

look what i found, new render

http://www.signweb.com/moving/cont/urbanscreens.html

I like that LED video screen :) Otherwise, the design of the tower is pretty bland and uninteresting...

i agree... design is quite common and the tower doesnt even look like a 57storey one...
it doesnt look tall..

i agree... design is quite common and the tower doesnt even look like a 57storey one...
it doesnt look tall..
I think it will be surpass 200m including the spire...

The Relation Between Large Scale LED Screens, Content Production and Technology
Adrian Velicescu
Standard has recently designed a stunning 60 000 sq ft LED media installation for Jakarta. It comprises of three lighting media wall installations that cover two of the vertical 57story facade and the top crown of the Grand Indonesia tower. In the middle of the North curtain wall there will be a 75x150 ft hi resolution screen capable of displaying moving images. Standard will design the content so the lo resolution lighting installation will be complementing and work in tandem with the hi resolution screen.

For those that too lazy to click the link.

http://www.signweb.com/moving/images/granindo.jpg


The Grand Indonesia tower (Jakarta, Indonesia) is a 57-story skyscraper covered with two LED videoscreens. The low-resolution back screen presents abstract motion art and the high-resolution foreground screen periodically presents lifestyle and branding content along the face of the building. Building visuals (both high and low resolution), comprise approximately 60,000 sq. ft. of LED video coverage along the exterior curtain wall.

LED is it like a huge TV Projector or something? if it is it'll be like Gedung Indosat..I like the Big Projector on it

I think LED screen is an array of small lights.


Maybe they changed the design to accomodate the LED screen? :P That would suck. Don't you think the LED screen would actually kills the grandeur of Hotel Indonesia and the Bunderan HI landmark?

I think LED screen is an array of small lights.


Maybe they changed the design to accomodate the LED screen? :P That would suck. Don't you think the LED screen would actually kills the grandeur of Hotel Indonesia and the Bunderan HI landmark?


yes i do. led screens of that maghnitude are so commercial and cheap looking. However, i also feel that grand indonesia is a more than perfect place to put such an LED screen because its in jakarta s buiggest, most famous roundabout, just like ny's timesquare, so it is appropriate

however, i think that either the rendering sucks, or the tower is plain uuugly and cheap looking. io like ho w the mall ha s trees on it tho, and it seems like theyte replacibg the hotelindonesia windfows w/ shiny glassy ones

yes i do. led screens of that maghnitude are so commercial and cheap looking. However, i also feel that grand indonesia is a more than perfect place to put such an LED screen because its in jakarta s buiggest, most famous roundabout, just like ny's timesquare, so it is appropriate

however, i think that either the rendering sucks, or the tower is plain uuugly and cheap looking. io like ho w the mall ha s trees on it tho, and it seems like theyte replacibg the hotelindonesia windfows w/ shiny glassy ones

Well first of all, there's a good chance that the design of the tower is not yet finalised,there hasn't been any official render by means of advertisements on paper/website laungh, so they can keep changing the design (or at least the facade) until last minute. Besides they don't seem to be in a rush at all in launching it...the tower wont probably get completed until mid-2007,so plenty of time for changes.

Secondly, it would be nice IMO if they made Bundaran HI a pedestrian-only zone. I know this is impossible given the amount of traffic that has to pass through that roundabout everyday, but it would be nice.

Thirdly, I've read elsewhere that once the MRT is completed, there will be underground shopping around Bundaran HI, which will add that area's identity as shopping destination.

its cool to have our underground shopping area,

but can u guys imagine the traffic congestion coz of this project ...

extremely bad ....!!!!

cheers,

otanx

this the enterance for GI may be whit so many enterance that GI have, little bit manage the trafic in that area.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1935/enterance1zo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

GI only one mall who have one coridor in Indonesia.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7084/singlecoridor9ba.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This The Project data Of GI
Data Project
Project Name : Grand Indonesia
Address : Jl. MH. Thamrin No. 1, Jakarta Pusat.
Developer : PT. Grand Indonesia
Architect Consultant : RTKL, Los Angeles, USA
Project Architect Consultant : PT. Anggara Architeam, Indonesia
Interior Design Consultant : Minktan Architects, Singapore
Lighting Design Consultant : PLD, Singapore
Landscape Design Consultant : Projects Pacific, Los Angeles, USA
Structure Consultant : PT. Rematha Daksa Optima
Structure & Finishing Contractor
: PT. Duta Graha Indah
PT. Totalindo Eka Persada
M&E Consultant : PT. Asdi Swasatya
PT. Metakom Pratama
Traffic Consultant : Wilbur Smith, Hongkong
PT. Pamintori Cipta Indonesia
Design Period : September 2003 – December 2004
Construction Period : August 2004 – February 2006 (by schedule)
Soft Opening : September 2006

We Have An exclusif reportage for GI in Our magazine Indonesia Design Edisi Januari 2006 and we are the 1st media who can expose this project(promosi Dikit beli yah di toko buku heheheheheh :) )

wow awesome! thanks . do u have renderings too by any chance? :)

Go to the indonesia design website (www.indonesiadesign.com) to see the rendering, apparently it's the new one with the LED screens. Btw Dokong, can I find your magazine in Singapore? :)

PS: I noticed that while originally we thought the office will be 55 storeys and the apartment to be 40 storeys high, from the rendering in the magazine cover it now seems that the office is pretty short (especially in comparison with the apartment).

ooh not bad. i like the design. how can i buy this magazine, and are there more detailed renderings in thew magazne?

yup u cand find in singapore,
MPH Singapore.Pte.Ltd.
12 Tagore Drive
Singapore 787621
Phn 65 64506036

and u can find in Malaysia
MPH Distributor.Sdn.Bhd
1st Floor Warehouse
Bangunan Luxor No5
Jln Bersatu Section 13/4
46200 Petaling Jaya
Selangor Malaysia

u can buy in here Indonesia and we send to u
u can confirm to Phn 62 21 5304866 or fax 62 21 5362115

can buy it on line? b/c i live in the US

Boy! That is a one huge mall. I wonder how many storeys they will build.

I don't like how the entire complex is arranged. They way those blocks are arranged look like a mess, feels unintegrated. Still looking froward for its completion though :P

for me the mall look small... MTA looks bigger

Boy! That is a one huge mall. I wonder how many storeys they will build.

I don't like how the entire complex is arranged. They way those blocks are arranged look like a mess, feels unintegrated. Still looking froward for its completion though :P

The mall will be 8 storeys, and I think it will be slightly larger than Taman Anggrek in terms of floor area (don't quote me on that though).

The only thing I'm disappointed about is that the architects have stuck to the old, tired, but proven concept of indoor-shopping. I would have liked wide pedestrian sidewalks built around the malls and filled with outdoor cafes and nice retail facades that shoppers can actually enjoy. Guess we'll just have to wait for Pacific Place for that.

^^ we have to wait until the Pedestians are as safe as Singapore..we can't even count our money in Pedestrian sidewalks of Jakarta even at morning :(

Folks, I bought the magazine today...all I can say is...wow, it's one hell of a development. It was disappointing though, that according to the magazine, the office tower will only be 41 storeys , which means they've scaled it down from 57. The residential tower will be 42 storeys and is actually taller than the office tower minus the spire...

Anyone know why they changed it to 41 storeys?

Alvin, please scan and put the pic here......

okay. I hope I'm not infringing any copyright here, if I am , Dokong, I'll remove it immediately.

From Indonesia Design magazine, January 2006 edition:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5600/grandindonesia18lg.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3153/grandindonesia26dz.jpg

kinda disappointed tho...the height but the design as well...

It acually looks good I like it..It can Compete w/ The other 3 hotels in HI cuz other hotels have a skyscraper and only HI that doesn't BTW When its done are we gonna call Bundaran HI, Bundaran GI(Grand Indonesia)?

Oh my God! I Love this project!!!

Alvin, I think the reason they scaled it down is that the investor wants play it 'safely'. I think you said in other post that for every single unit of apartment there must be the buyer since this is now the major source of financing construction. When they start construction normally 30%-40% of units already taken by buyers this give them enough money to start....
When this project completes I really want to try staying 1 night or 2 in the new HI ;)

it looks ok to me

i think its better off shorter, because first of all, the design isnt all that great so its not iconic enough to be jakarta's tallest. also, i dont think tall skyscrapers would compliment the bunderan HI roundabout very nicely b/c it would make the wide roundabout seem very cramped, and it definitely wont help with the traffic.

o yera and does the magazine have more detailed renderings, like the interiors or lobbies or wateber.

was there any other projects in the magazine that was new?

o yera and does the magazine have more detailed renderings, like the interiors or lobbies or wateber.

this interior for entertain spot
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6972/entertainment5pe.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This main mall
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3409/mainmall7uw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The new project in january edition is Senayan City, Pasar Baru Square, Some Trade center's
our magazine have a tame every edition, in january is Shooping Galery and in march we'll be housing estate.

^^ wow great news :D

Dokong any idea how tall is it ?

hope it has outdoor shopping center :D like cafes and small shop outside :p

sebenernya interiornya mereka belom fix jadi masih ada perubahan.
untuk outdoor shoping GI bukan didesain kearah itu, tapi GI mempunya pedestrian yang cukup lebar dari arah Bunderan HI sampai kedalamnya.

The new project in january edition is Senayan City, Pasar Baru Square, Some Trade center's
our magazine have a tame every edition, in january is Shooping Galery and in march we'll be housing estate.

Kudos to your new edition, seeing official GI rendering for the first time in your magazine was great! You should be doing more of these 'exclusive preview' stuff in your future edition for other big projects like that new International Financial Center project on Jl Satrio (Mayapada group), and Rasuna Epicentrum (Bakrie).

Btw, how much effort did it take to convince the developers to let u guys publish the official renderings??

Just a note, the reason why they scaled down this project is because, based on what I heard, this project is BOT (built-operate-transfer), so after 30 years it will be handed over to the government...that's why Djarum is cost-conscious with this one because they want quick returns in 10-20 years rather than looking at long-term value. Same goes for the whole Senayan Square complex (PS, Central Senayan I&II etc).

this BOT scheme for commercial property doesn't make much sense to me. I would understand it if it's applied to toll road infrastructure.

Anyone know why this is the case? What are the reasons? This kind of transfer, I think, is a hindrance to infrastructure development. Not to mention the quality of management once they are transferred to government later.

It acually looks good I like it..It can Compete w/ The other 3 hotels in HI cuz other hotels have a skyscraper and only HI that doesn't BTW When its done are we gonna call Bundaran HI, Bundaran GI(Grand Indonesia)?

The name of roundabout is still the same : BUNDERAN HI.
The name of the hotel is still the same : Hotel Indonesia (the old bldng)
Grand Indonesia : all together HI, offices, mall and apartment.
FYI : Hotel Indonesia (HI) is one of historical site and cannot be demolished, cos it's the first skyscraper in Indonesia...
I like the design of GI, it goes with old HI design...

19 January 2006:

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i dunno if anyone has posted this b4, but Central dept store is cancelled, they're gonna replace it with Isetan (Japan's popular dept store) hurrayyyy.. hehheheeh.. hopefully it's gonna b good since the last time it closed down ^^

bdw do we have a thread for plaza indonesia? they/'re planning for a total change for the interior and the shops..

i dunno if anyone has posted this b4, but Central dept store is cancelled, they're gonna replace it with Isetan (Japan's popular dept store) hurrayyyy.. hehheheeh.. hopefully it's gonna b good since the last time it closed down ^^

bdw do we have a thread for plaza indonesia? they/'re planning for a total change for the interior and the shops..

no one has posted that before. Wow, thanks for the insider info. Isetan is definitely a more representative anchor tenant than Central...:okay: Perhaps Takashimaya will follow suit? in Pacific Place perhaps??

Btw, you seem to know the rite people ..hehehe.

I think the design is awesome. Definitely a nice addition to that end of Thamrin. Just hope this and the Westin tower in the area can be completed soon.

Imagine if Grand Indonesia has Underpass to Westin, Jakarta City Center, Pasar Tanah Abang A, Plaza Indonesia, Hotel Nikko, Mandarin Oriental :naughty:

not to Pasar Tanah Abang cuz there's a lot of Freemans (preman)

^^ maybe phase 2 until they cleared out those Premans?? :D

Jakarta traffic to be detoured for Hotel's renovation
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

To facilitate the renovation of the landmark Hotel Indonesia and the construction of the adjacent Grand Indonesia commercial complex, the city administration will close to motorists Kebon Kacang, Central Jakarta, from Saturday until September.

During the construction work, motorists heading from Jl. Mas Mansyur, Tanah Abang, to Jl. Thamrin will need to turn around on Jl. Kebon Kacang and take a left in front of Hotel Ascott to get to Jl. Teluk Belitung before entering the main thoroughfare.

Meanwhile, motorists coming from Plaza Indonesia who want to go to Jl. Thamrin will have to go through Jl. Kebon Kacang Raya and take a left to the east of Hotel Ascott to get to Jl. Teluk Betung.

Other routes in the area will not be affected.

The project kicked off in 2004 when the government handed over Hotel Indonesia and the adjacent Hotel Inna Wisata -- now the location of Grand Indonesia -- to PT Cipta Karya Bumi Indah (CKBI) on a 30-year build, operate and transfer (BOT) contract.

CKBI is a subsidiary of cigarette giant Djarum.

The hotel, built in the 1960s to host participating delegates of the fourth Asian Games in 1962, was the country's first high-rise building. As a Class A heritage site, the renovation of the hotel is restricted to preserve its original structure.

It is hoped the renovation, which includes the demolition of the hotel's Bali wing and the reduction of its capacity by half to 300 rooms, gives the hotel the edge it needs to compete with others in the area.

SEIBU dept store to open in Grand Indonesia!

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whats seibu? is it a high end dept store?

i think itd be cool if they opened a neimanmarcus or saks or bbarneys i n indo. it woul\d be asias 1st and jajkarta is the perfefctlocation 4 that

whats seibu? is it a high end dept store?

i think itd be cool if they opened a neimanmarcus or saks or bbarneys i n indo. it woul\d be asias 1st and jajkarta is the perfefctlocation 4 that

SEIBU is a Japanese department store, catering for the middle-upper and high-end, like SOGO.

seibu was opened in pasaraya blok m..but it's already closed for 4/5 years due to bancruptcy.. so we'll have isetan and seibu in GI? what about central?

Tuesday January 24, 03:30 PM

Japan's Seibu To Open Department Store In Jakarta

JAKARTA, Jan 24 Asia Pulse - One of the world's largest department stores Seibu will soon operate in the country occupying a space of 33,000 square meters in the Grand Indonesia building, Jakarta.

The presence of Seibu indicates improved investment climate in the country, PT Mitra Adi Perkasa, Seibu's partner in the country, said.

"We hope Indonesians no longer need to go abroad only to buy luxury goods with well known brands. We have it all available in Seibu," Mitra operation and business expansion Director Alan G. Thomson aid on Monday.

Seibu, the third largest department store in Japan after Takashimaya and Mitsukoshi, is expected to start operation in Jakarta in September.

(ANTARA)

what about Seiyu? thats in Singapore?

Seibu is funny name, sounds like 'one-mothered'. I tought it was another variant of 'Sarinah'

Too bad that PT MAP decided to use another Japanese Dept Store brand. It should be a fun addition if they opted to US Dept Store like Saks Fifth or Macys.

id prefer a neiman marcus cauz i lik neiman better, and nno macy's cuz thzats a lower endf department store. mayybe bloomingdales?

id prefer a neiman marcus cauz i lik neiman better, and nno macy's cuz thzats a lower endf department store. mayybe bloomingdales?

how many of these US dept stores have presence in other parts of Asia?

Here's the deal:
- As we know, there will be two (2) malls in Grand Indonesia, Seibu will be anchor tenant of one of them (33, 000sqm), while Central (41,000 sqm)will be the anchor tenant of the other. (no word on Isetan, for now).
- The Seibu in GI will be the main Seibu store for the whole of Indonesia.
- It will sell Liz Claibourne, Dana Buchman, Lucky Brand, Ellen Tracy, Claiborne Mens, Juicy Couture, Laundry exclusively.

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Department store Seibu masuk Indonesia

JAKARTA: Department store Seibu memastikan diri hadir di Grand Indonesia Shopping Town di bawah bendera perusahaan 'raja' ritel Indonesia, PT Mitra Adiperkasa Tbk (MAP).
Seibu merupakan department store ketiga terbesar di Jepang, setelah Takashimaya dan Mitsukoshi. Selanjutnya diikuti oleh Daimaru, Sogo, dan Isetan.

Seibu saat ini mempunyai 18 cabang di Jepang, menyebar mulai dari Hokkaido (bagian Utara Jepang) hingga Yao, Osaka (bagian Barat Jepang).

Penandatanganan perjanjian antara kedua pihak telah dilaksanakan pekan lalu, diwakili oleh Frans Lazaro, Managing Director PT Grand Indonesia dengan Alan G. Thomson, Director Operational and Business Development MAP.

Selanjutnya Seibu akan menjadi penyewa utama (anchor tenant) di Grand Indonesia, dan akan menempati luas areal belanja seluas 33.000 m2. Department store tersebut akan menjual barang-barang bermerek.

Di samping itu, Seibu juga menjual produk yang akan dijual eksklusif di department store itu, seperti merek Liz Claibourne, Dana Buchman, Lucky Brand, Ellen Tracy, Claiborne Mens, Juicy Couture, Laundry.

Seibu Grand Indonesia akan menjadi toko utama untuk seluruh Seibu di Indonesia, yang menyerupai toko utama Seibu di Ikebukuro, Tokyo.

"Kini masyarakat Indonesia tidak perlu keluar negeri hanya untuk berburu barang-barang high-end brands," ujar Alan G. Thomson.

Grand Indonesia Shopping Town, mal papan atas yang berada satu lokasi dengan Hotel Indonesia, di kawasan Thamrin, Jakarta rencananya akan beroperasi mulai September 2006.

Grand Indonesia Shopping Town terdiri dari dua mal, yaitu mal A seluas 80.000 m2 dan mal B seluas 70.000 m2.

"Kami akan mulai beroperasi pada September 2006 dan siap melayani masyarakat dengan koleksi-koleksi merek terbaru," ujar Frans.

Menengah atas

Dia optimistis Seibu akan mendapat pasar di Indonesia, khususnya kalangan menengah ke atas. "Kehadiran Seibu di Grand Indonesia akan semakin melengkapi koleksi deretan brand ternama yang telah bergabung sebelumnya.

Jika Seibu menjadi anchor tenant di salah satu dari dua mal yang ada di Grand Indonesia, sedangkan di mal lainnya anchor tenant-nya adalah Central Department Store, milik Central Retail Corporation (CRC). Department store itu merupakan peritel nomor satu (Central Group) di Thailand. Central bakal menempati areal belanja seluas 41.000 m2 di Grand Indonesia.

MAP merupakan peritel terbesar yang saat ini beroperasi di Indonesia dengan total gerai lebih dari 500 unit.

PT Mitra Adiperkasa Tbk yang mencatatkan sahamnya di papan bursa pada 10 November 2004, mengoperasikan tiga department store yakni Sogo, Debenhams dan Java.

Perusahaan itu memiliki hak distrubusi eksklusif untuk lebih dari 15 merek perlengakapan olahraga ini mengoperasikan sejumlah toko sports mulai dari the Athlete's Foot, Planet Sports, Sport Station, the Sport Warehouse, Golf House dan Pro Shop.

Di segmen produk busana dan gaya hidup, Mitra Adiperkasa sebagai pemegang hak eksklusif merek-merek terkenal, seperti Lacoste, Nine West, Next, Miss Sixty, hingga Sole Effect, memiliki 105 toko fesyen di seluruh Indonesia.

Oleh Linda T. Silitonga
Bisnis Indonesia

how many of these US dept stores have presence in other parts of Asia?

i think nonwee

anyone know about Tesco?

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"Konsumen Indonesia terutama konsumen di Jakarta tampaknya akan terus berhadapan dengan gerai ritel asing dalam beberapa tahun mendatang. Seibu, jaringan department store dari Jepang—tokonya di Tokyo tercatat merupakan department store terbesar ketiga di dunia—disebut-sebut akan membuka cabangnya di Grand Indonesia, kompleks pertokoan yang kini sedang dibangun di kawasan Bundaran Hotel Indonesia, Jakarta. Central, pesaingnya dari Thailand juga telah mengokupasi 41.000 m2 lahan di tempat yang sama. Ipung Kurniawan, pemegang saham utama PT Hero Supermarket Tbk menurut sumber BusinessWeek Indonesia berada dibalik dua inisiatif ini. Isetan, peritel besar dari Jepang—yang namanya sudah menjadi trademark pusat perbelanjaan terkemuka di beberapa negara, seperti Singapura dan Malaysia—juga akan masuk pada 2008. Sementara Tesco, perusahaan ritel dari Inggris juga telah membentuk tim untuk mempelajari pasar Indonesia."

anyone know about Tesco?

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"Konsumen Indonesia terutama konsumen di Jakarta tampaknya akan terus berhadapan dengan gerai ritel asing dalam beberapa tahun mendatang. Seibu, jaringan department store dari Jepang—tokonya di Tokyo tercatat merupakan department store terbesar ketiga di dunia—disebut-sebut akan membuka cabangnya di Grand Indonesia, kompleks pertokoan yang kini sedang dibangun di kawasan Bundaran Hotel Indonesia, Jakarta. Central, pesaingnya dari Thailand juga telah mengokupasi 41.000 m2 lahan di tempat yang sama. Ipung Kurniawan, pemegang saham utama PT Hero Supermarket Tbk menurut sumber BusinessWeek Indonesia berada dibalik dua inisiatif ini. Isetan, peritel besar dari Jepang—yang namanya sudah menjadi trademark pusat perbelanjaan terkemuka di beberapa negara, seperti Singapura dan Malaysia—juga akan masuk pada 2008. Sementara Tesco, perusahaan ritel dari Inggris juga telah membentuk tim untuk mempelajari pasar Indonesia."

Alvin,

Tesco is the discount store chain in the same class as Carrefour out of UK. Tesco presence is larga in China (as Tesco Lotus) and Thailand.

thanks, UMD :okay:

the last time it opened in jakarta, didnt go really well.. hopefully this time it will be improved

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^^ was there spose to be a Pic? I don't see anything

^^ repair it already :D

wha?? it looks so big and Wide!

:colgate:!

Update the Construction thread ;) but I don't think too much people aren't Interested in the Jakarta Asia's Latest Boomtown thread anymore :(

^^ no after I give some MSG all will attracted to that thread :D

nice update

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wow cool thanks!

but what hapened to the spire and crown in that render.. weird.. its gone

^^ oh my scanner not big enough thus it is cut :D

wow cool thanks!

but what hapened to the spire and crown in that render.. weird.. its gone

i think it's just the angle of the rendering. Either that, or it's a preliminery design.

Btw, don't be surprised if this building will be named 'BCA Tower' or something like that, since BCA has secured naming rights to the building.

how tall is this beauty gonna be?

I think something wrong with the scale on that pic
The current Hotel Indonesia is 20 storeys and Grand Indonesia looks like 6 times taller than HI

14 Feb 2006 ;

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