CRH (China Railway Highspeed) 中国高速铁路

[hkskyline]

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Bidding starts on Beijing-Tianjin high-speed railway
24 February 2005
Business Daily Update

International rail engineering companies are expected to bid next week on the planned Beijing-Tianjin high-speed railway project, a well-placed source from the Ministry of Railways said yesterday.

The planned rail link between the nation's capital and its neighbouring Tianjin Municipality is estimated to cost about 14.3 billion yuan (US$1.73 billion).

The 140-kilometre high-speed railway will get commuters between the two metropolis in half an hour if it were completed, according to the ministry's plan.

The Beijing Railways Bureau serves as the tenderer and established an office to deal with the issue.

This Sunday will be the deadline for the international companies to submit bids, said a source from a German engineering company involved in the competition.

"The tenderer will assess the bids starting next week and finalize the winner of the project a few weeks later," the source said.

The project is scheduled to start construction before June and begin operating in 2007, said Dai Xianglong, mayor of Tianjin Municipality.

The rail project is considered a step towards regional economic integration. Thanks to the project, the Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei region will become the third pole of economic growth after the Yangtze River and Pearl River deltas.

To alleviate the nation's rail bottleneck upon the rapid economic growth, China has unveiled a national plan for mid- and long-term railway development.

The Chinese Government has approved building 3,000 kilometres of high speed railways, Vice-Minister of Railways Lu Dongfu said at a conference in December.

They include rail tracks from Wuhan, capital of Central China's Hubei Province to Guangzhou, capital of South China's Guangdong Province and from Zhengzhou, capital of Central China's Henan Province to Xi'an, capital of Northwest Shaanxi Province.

And Beijing-Tianjin rail link is also on the list of approved projects to be built.

All the railways are for trains that run above 200 kilometres per hour, according to the railway ministry's plan.

[raymond_tung88]

Which international railway companies? Are these trains going to be like the TGV and the Shinkansen?

[Sen]

too many rumous...

[muchbetter]

Actually driving is more convenient. I only spend one and half hours to arrive Tianjin from Beijing. Along the highway, sightseeing is quite impressive because all kinds of economic development regions have been built up these years. New railway systems might be built for meeting the demand of more and more cargo transportation.

[dcb11]

The close integration of Beijing and Tianjin, which are both huge cities on their own, could lead to a unified metropolitan area, which would be very powerful economically. A high-speed rail connection would be a key step in uniting the two cities. The region could be the next PRD.

I assume another key reason for the railway would be the 2008 Olympics. China will definitely have a lot of major projects to show off at that point.

[Clashman]

Which international railway companies? Are these trains going to be like the TGV and the Shinkansen?

I think so. Giving 1/2 hour for a 140 km distance means they'll be going close to 300 km/hr. The fastest trains right now take about 80 minutes.

[Tanwei]

Good news!

[Tanwei]

I will do some homework.

[zergcerebrates]

The Train was being tested at Beijing's Testing Loop.

Still wondering where it'll run to and from.

Pics:

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[raymond_tung88]

Are those the Shinkansen trains that were purchased from Japan? Or something like that?

[zergcerebrates]

Yup those are the ones.

[raymond_tung88]

Yup those are the ones.

How fast do they go and from which city to which city are they most likely to run?

[pauliyas]

No...
It is a purely chinese made. It is going to be used to high speed railway project between Beijing and Tianjin prior to Summer Olypmics 2008.

[coldstar]

No...
It is a purely chinese made. It is going to be used to high speed railway project between Beijing and Tianjin prior to Summer Olypmics 2008.

:sleepy: :sleepy:

E2 is 100% Japanese Made. and the name of 'E2' is from the Shinkansen series.
China only imported its rolling sticks from Japan's Kawasaki Heavy Industries.

E2 being made in Kobe for China
(left. right is New Fastech 360Z)
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[Ohno]

The train will run between Jiaodong and Jinan city within Shandong province. The speed limit is about 200 km/h. Yes, it was imported from Japan's Kawasaki Heavy Industries ( 川崎重工）and slight modification has been done.

[hzkiller]

难度很大的抓拍~~~沿线铁路警察全部出动，封锁正线，所以无法拍车！以下图片均为各地车迷偷拍的 最后一张还能看见警察
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庆兴还好我发的快 中宣部已经要求全部封锁这条消息了 新华网论坛上的也全部删除了 Hasea.com 已经把这些图片全部删除了 不知道我发在这里会不会对国家利益造成伤害？？？ 为什么要全部封锁呢~~~~

[hzkiller]

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[hzkiller]

到2010年，客车将全部实现空调化（ZZ）

我国铁路建设用钢增长空间可观

"十一五"期间，我国将优先发展交通运输业：一是加快发展铁路运输，将建设铁路新线1.7万公里，其中客运专线7000公里；二是进一步完善公路网络，2010年公路总里程将达到230万公里，比2005年新增35万公里，其中高速公路6.5万公里，比2005年新增2.5万公里；三是积极发展水路运输，将建设7个沿海港口的煤炭、进口油气、进口铁矿石中转运输系统和集装箱运输系统，扩大港口吞吐能力。
我国铁路运输的发展方向是重点建设客运专线、城际轨道交通、煤运通道，初步形成快速客运和煤炭运输网络；扩展西部地区路网，强化中部地区路网，完善东部地区路网；加强集装箱运输系统和主要客货枢纽建设。按照《中长期铁路网规划》，新建和既有线改造将增建线路正线延展长度6.5万公里，加上站线，总长度约7.8万公里，铁路建设需用钢轨约950万吨，平均每年铁路建设用钢轨需60万吨以上；铁路建设和大修用道岔的钢轨数量将达到约15万吨/年；铁路大修维修用轨近几年的用量比较稳定，在80万吨/年左右。考虑提速后线路磨损加快和铁路总长增加致使维修总量加大，预计"十一五"末期，铁路大修维修用轨将达到100万吨/年左右。未来若干年内，我国铁路用钢轨的需求数量将有所增加，高峰期可达180万吨/年左右。2005年，我国铁路建设消费钢材417万吨，预计2010年我国铁路建设需要各类钢材在549万吨左右（含城市轨道交通用钢）。
" 十一五"期间，我国钢铁企业应大力开拓铁路客运专线用钢市场。已开工或即将开工建设的9条客运专线正线长度为3200多公里，需客运专线钢轨近100万吨，预计2007-2008年为辅轨高峰期，每年需客运专线钢轨40万吨以上。客货共线将进行200公里/小时改造，近几年将有正线长度约5400公里的客货共红既有线改造，需200公里/小时客运专线钢轨约160万吨，平均每年约需40万吨
高速铁路的发展对钢轨提出了更高的要求：一是质量要求"四高"--高洁净度、高尺寸精度、高平直度、高表面质量；二是必须采用100米长定尺钢轨。按照铁道部客运专线建设推进计划，钢轨生产厂在2006年4月前提供100米长定尺钢轨用于试辅，2006年底开始大批量提供200公里/小时客货共线100 米长定尺钢轨，2007年4月前开始大批量提供250公里/小时和350公里/小时客运专线100米长定尺钢轨
在铁路车辆方面，从2006年开始，现有的50吨、60吨货车将逐步改为70吨新型货车，设计货车轴重23吨、载重70吨，时速120公里，并列运输重量达到5000吨，这标志我国货运的发展方向是重载、提速，以提高铁路货运运输能力。内燃机车、电力机车将作为主要牵引动力，在主要干线上客运速度要达到 140-160公里/小时以上，货运速度要达到80-100公里/小时以上，同时还要研究能满足客运时速在250公里以上的高速机车和动车。预计到 2010年需要保有机车19000台，扣除需要淘汰机车4600台，需要新购置机车7300台。货车要发展25吨大吨位货车和各种专用车，如集装箱车、散装粮食车、水泥车、冷藏车等，到2010年需要保有货车58万辆，扣除淘汰货车10万辆，需要购置新货车22万辆。到2010年，客车将全部实现空调化。到2010年需要保有客车5.3万辆，扣除淘汰客车0.95万辆，需要购置新客车2.60万辆。2005年，我国铁路货车在更换车型的巨大需求下，产量突破4万辆，钢材需求在 90万吨以上，考虑车辆维修用钢需求，2005年我国铁路货车用钢达100万吨。"十一五"期间，铁路车辆用钢的增长空间也不小。

[Kiss the Rain]

摆脱, ORIGINAL 一点好不好, 干吗总是抄袭日本, 我们中国自己的设计师都死了吗?

[Sen]

CRH->China Rail Highspeed?

[hzkiller]

NND 我们浙江的风景就是和别的地方不一样 浙江那张满眼绿色 背景也全是别墅~~这是农村哦~
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[hzkiller]

沈阳的
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武汉的
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[vipermkk]

这个没什么好封的吧
北京－杭州也不是第一条使用CRH的线路

[nineth]

庆兴还好我发的快 中宣部已经要求全部封锁这条消息了 新华网论坛上的也全部删除了 Hasea.com 已经把这些图片全部删除了 不知道我发在这里会不会对国家利益造成伤害？？？ 为什么要全部封锁呢~~~~

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封锁, 並不是怕造成什么'国家利益伤害', 而是怕可能會衝擊貧官利益. 當年做出這樣賣外國貨, 特別是賣日本貨的決定, 只是幾個人的妄顧民意的決定, 如大事報導這消息, 一定引來群情洶湧, 要求調查決定人是不是得了日本人的好處, 貪污受賄, 所以, 就掩耳盜鈴, 低調防川

[cyberjaya]

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[Sen]

摆脱, ORIGINAL 一点好不好, 干吗总是抄袭日本, 我们中国自己的设计师都死了吗?

这个不是抄袭，这个就是日本的。
用的是新干线E2,东北新干线的机车组。

[Sen]

上面的不像新干线,难道是TGV?
谁能给我讲讲中国高铁现在到底怎么样了,听到的消息五花八门...

[baersworth]

China is buying from Japan, France, Canada and Germany. More suppliers mean a better bargianing power as the suppliers will compete. China is also working on its own, but it is not mature enough for commercial operation. There is a test line running China's own design.

[Sen]

^^
I know that.
I am more interested to know what high speed lines currently has, where they are, what equipments are operating on them, and what lines are being built.

[fireinthehole]

seems the trains are made in china, here u go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4By0h9Gb93Y&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FO1zcg0Y4

:banana: :banana:

[hzkiller]

中长期高速铁路网规划图
http://bbs.hasea.com/attachments/forumid_29/0NEW_3_b4UNW8OBFCnc.jpg
票价不变　还是４４元 我有照片　　不过以前的ＰＨＯＴＯＪＥＲＫ居然无法上传了　有什么更好的地方可以上传吗？？
子弹头今晨正式上线 中国进入高速列车时代(图)
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全国首列动力车组今晨在沪昆线上海至杭州间试运行

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　高速列车CRH2原型为日本新干线E2-1000，最高时速可达到200公里。现阶段车速不会一下子跑得很快，时速将和现在的新型空调特快列车差不多，控制在160公里以内。票价暂按现行同档次新型空调列车软座票价办理。而目前从上海乘新型空调列车到南京和杭州，软座票价分别为79元和44元。（解放网/图）
1月28日上午7点15分，一列中国铁路高速列车CRH2从杭州城站开出驶往上海南站，预计8点45分抵达上海，上海南站发往杭州的CRH2于8：30分正式发车。国产动车组今天开始上线试运营。这意味着中国铁路以此为起点，将进入全新的高速列车时代。

　　八点三十分上海首趟动车组从南站出发前往杭州，该趟车有两列动车组组成共十六节车厢。首趟车上坐率接近九成，近千人体验了中国目前最先进的列车。旅客们表示，和普通列车相比，动车组更干净、更安静。
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首列N522次，是由两列联在一起的动力车组共同完成的
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[hzkiller]

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[y3miii]

Sweet! :banana:

[hzkiller]

从目前各种消息看，4.18时CRH将在既有线有条件的区段按250km/h载客运行！时刻表按最高250km/h排图！虽然车身上标的是200km/h，但并不妨碍CRH发挥出它的最大潜力，只要线路经过改造，符合250km/h的运行条件。

[nineth]

'国产动车组今天开始上线试运营'

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根據合約, 首三列日本製造, 繼后共六十列, 在中國組裝, 總共是100億米元生意. 說什麼'国产', 太韓國了, 和韓國說印刷技由韓國發明, 渾天儀是韓國的, 同樣無恥.

[nineth]

不知圖中那個司機, 是中國人還是日本人? 據我所知, 上海浮鎡那些司機是得國人.

台灣新開張的倭日新幹線, 也是請外國司機, 新聞報導說, 18個月后, 才可訓練出台灣本土司機. 車不能自己製造, 買人家的車, 但連開車都不能開, 丟家.

[hzkiller]

上海浮鎡没有司机吧　好象都在控制室工作！

[nineth]

"好象都在控制室工作,"

是遙控半司機.

[tiger]

CRH 3重庆到遂宁段是全国第一条,也是全国第一条无渣轨道.

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[cyberjaya]

哈哈，刚在国际版上发了，还是这里照片全 :) :banana: :cheers:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=11513295#post11513295

请教个问题，CRH2 CRH3, CRH有何区别？

[tiger]

哈哈，刚在国际版上发了，还是这里照片全 :) :banana: :cheers:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=11513295#post11513295

请教个问题，CRH2 CRH3, CRH有何区别？

CRH3是国产版的ICE3,最大速度385,商业运营速度320.CRH3是与西门子高速列车ICE3在同一个平台“Velaro”上生产的.西门子对Velaro的研究始于提供给德国联邦铁路（DB AG）的高速列车ICE3，即人们常说的第三代城际快车（Inter city Express）.

CRH2的原型是日本技术.

CRH1是国产技术.

[cyberjaya]

CRH3是国产版的ICE3,最大速度385,商业运营速度320.CRH3是与西门子高速列车ICE3在同一个平台“Velaro”上生产的.西门子对Velaro的研究始于提供给德国联邦铁路（DB AG）的高速列车ICE3，即人们常说的第三代城际快车（Inter city Express）.

CRH2的原型是日本技术.

CRH1是国产技术.

Thanks dude!

[hzkiller]

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[hzkiller]

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[hzkiller]

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[Andrew]

I'm confused... I can't read any of the text but I'm presuming this is a new high-speed service between Shanghai and Hangzhou. If so, what does this mean for the plans to extend the Shanghai Transrapid to Hangzhou?

[hzkiller]

I'm confused... I can't read any of the text but I'm presuming this is a new high-speed service between Shanghai and Hangzhou. If so, what does this mean for the plans to extend the Shanghai Transrapid to Hangzhou?

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hangzhou can't wait for Transrapid ~~haha

[Sen]

CRH3是国产版的ICE3,最大速度385,商业运营速度320.CRH3是与西门子高速列车ICE3在同一个平台“Velaro”上生产的.西门子对Velaro的研究始于提供给德国联邦铁路（DB AG）的高速列车ICE3，即人们常说的第三代城际快车（Inter city Express）.

CRH2的原型是日本技术.

CRH1是国产技术.

CRH1加拿大庞巴迪的技术。(Bombardier)

[Sen]

很久没坐火车了，N552次，N代表什么？
上海杭州不应该是Z开头，直达？
还有那个CRH3如果是ICE,为什么和CRH2看起来差不多。

[Sen]

I'm confused... I can't read any of the text but I'm presuming this is a new high-speed service between Shanghai and Hangzhou. If so, what does this mean for the plans to extend the Shanghai Transrapid to Hangzhou?

I guess that plan is delayed as of now.(or cancelled).

note that this is not the formal induction of high speed train, it's just another "speed raising" of chinese railways, China has done it 6 or 7 times before, and because this time speed will reach 200 km/h or higher, it will be counted as high speed because 200km/h+ is the definition of high speed train. but most high speed trains nowdays run on 300km/h or higher.

They are still high speed trains running on regular tracks. I still expect a dedicated high speed lane from Beijing to Shanghai to be built in next few years.

[Andrew]

There had been no indication of any dely or cancellation of the Shanghai-Hangzhou Transrapid project. If this high-speed train is only running at 200km/h, I assume it isn't running on dedicated high-speed tracks. I presume these trains can reach much faster speeds on the right tracks. If that's the case, I presume also that this is also therefore only a temporary solution until the maglev track is built. After the maglev link is built maybe these trains will be used on other tracks, hopefully ones that are purpose built where they can run at full speed.

I'm just speculating, can anyone give any more information?

[hzkiller]

There had been no indication of any dely or cancellation of the Shanghai-Hangzhou Transrapid project. If this high-speed train is only running at 200km/h, I assume it isn't running on dedicated high-speed tracks. I presume these trains can reach much faster speeds on the right tracks. If that's the case, I presume also that this is also therefore only a temporary solution until the maglev track is built. After the maglev link is built maybe these trains will be used on other tracks, hopefully ones that are purpose built where they can run at full speed.

I'm just speculating, can anyone give any more information?
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Transrapid is Direct access from shanghai--hangzhou!
CRH is shanghai -- jiaxing--haining--yuhang--hangzhou!

[hzkiller]

很久没坐火车了，N552次，N代表什么？
上海杭州不应该是Z开头，直达？
还有那个CRH3如果是ICE,为什么和CRH2看起来差不多。

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N开头是城际列车 中间至少还要经过 嘉兴站 CRH现在开行的也是城际线 应为票价还是44块!

[hzkiller]

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[kocovic]

CRH3是国产版的ICE3,最大速度385,商业运营速度320.CRH3是与西门子高速列车ICE3在同一个平台“Velaro”上生产的.西门子对Velaro的研究始于提供给德国联邦铁路（DB AG）的高速列车ICE3，即人们常说的第三代城际快车（Inter city Express）.

CRH2的原型是日本技术.

CRH1是国产技术.

CRH1不是国产技术，是加拿大Bombardier 的Regina C2008

[teddybear]

Why the shape looks like Japanese bullet train? Don't you think?

[UD2]

It is a Japanese bullet train.

[leo_sh]

Yes, it is Sinkansen, assembled in Qingdao, China. The Railway Ministry says it is made in China so as to prevent the nationalists throwing stones at it.

[leo_sh]

CRH1不是国产技术，是加拿大Bombardier 的Regina C2008


CRH1 用了Bombardier的转向架，但不等与是Bombardier的车。Bomabardier自己也用了很多其它国家和公司的零部件和技术。现在很多单项技术都是外包给专业公司做的，真正打牌子的公司只负责总体设计和组装。。

[UD2]

I think the CRH1 is more than just the C2008 rolling stock.

[kelvinyang]

ＣＲＨ２ ｌｏｏｋｓ ｍｕｃｈ ｓｅｘｉｅｒ ｔｈａｎ ＣＲＨ１ ｉｎ ｂｏｔｈ ｉｎｔｅｒｉｏｒ ａｎｄ ｅｘｔｅｒｉｏｒ ｄｅｓｉｇｎ.

[superchan7]

Yes, it is Sinkansen, assembled in Qingdao, China. The Railway Ministry says it is made in China so as to prevent the nationalists throwing stones at it.

It runs to Nanjing...I'm sure they considered that when leaving out the fact that it's a Japanese design.

Those who already know the fact that it's a Japanese Shinkansen would actually appreciate the train instead of venting at "Japanese imperialism."

Those who don't know...probably don't need to know. For now.

[teedenator]

中國子彈列車日本貨 網民改名「恥辱號」
大陸新聞中心/台北報導

中國大陸首列子彈頭高速列車，一月二十八日從杭州開往上海，時速一百六十公里。中共官方宣稱對該列車擁有智慧財產權，是標準的「國產貨」。結果被網民爆料，實際上是日本新幹線「疾風號」的中國版，遂稱子彈頭列車為「恥辱號」。

香港《亞洲週刊》最近一期報導指出，子彈頭列車已由中共鐵道部統一命名為CRH，即China Railway High-speed的縮寫，鐵道部將其標為CRH四大系列中的第二系列，大陸媒體也一律把CRH2子彈列車稱為國產動車組。

報導指出，鐵道部如此高調把CRH2子彈列車視作國產品牌，招致大陸網民的質疑與批評。幾大門戶網站的評論指責鐵道部「無恥」，並稱，從日本進口新幹線列車後，僅僅刷上中國產的油漆並噴出CRH的字樣，就稱為國產貨，是欺瞞中國同胞。氣憤之餘，部分網民直指鐵道部「賣國」，鐵道部寧死不用國產「中華之星」列車，而用洋貨，是典型的崇洋媚外。

有的網民甚至把CRH改以中文拼音稱之為「恥辱號」（Chi-ru-hao），令人哭笑不得，日本方面則刻意保持低調。報導引述知情者透露，日方本著「爭財不爭氣」的原則，不願與中方發生爭執，以免「得罪」鐵道部，而喪失一心想要得到京滬高速鐵路使用日本新幹線的「特大訂單」。

日本鐵道綜合研究所的一位高級工程師對《亞洲週刊》說，這次日方提供給中方的新幹線車輛，是根據中方的要求，載重量上要比日本原有的車輛重，這可能是考慮中國乘客一般會比日本乘客攜帶的行李要多，另外，也只是對燈光、行李架以及內裝等作了些改動，而日本新幹線的真正的核心技術，是在時速三百公里以上的新幹線，智慧財產權和有關專利屬於東海道鐵道。

除此，川崎重工業會逐步將車輛製造技術轉讓給中共，期間既有一個轉移過程，還有一個消化過程。但據這位工程師表示，在不到一年的短短時間，中國能夠迅速消化吸收「疾風號」新幹線的核心技術，實現七成以上的國產化，決無可能，所以，中方現在宣稱掌握核心技術和具有中國的智慧財產權，似乎言之過早。

http://news.chinatimes.com/2007Cti/2007Cti-Focus/2007Cti-Focus-Content/0,4518,9602090221+96020920+0+081654+0,00.html

[wigo]

Yes, it is Sinkansen, assembled in Qingdao, China. The Railway Ministry says it is made in China so as to prevent the nationalists throwing stones at it.

Anyway, China says that it is China's technology, and no one, at least this far, disputes China's claim. So IT IS "Made in China". :)

[zergcerebrates]

seems the trains are made in china, here u go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4By0h9Gb93Y&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FO1zcg0Y4

:banana: :banana:

All the first sets of trains are made outside of China. Take Shinkansen(the Chinese CRH2)for example Japan made 60 of those cars, the rest will be made inside China with technology transfer, and this applies to all including the ICE3, Pendolino train, and the Bombardier.

[superchan7]

This idea is a good one for China as its domestic railway industry gradually matures and catches up to the developed countries.

At the present day, China's domestic-designed cars and trains are rather "hit-and-miss"...

[wigo]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-03/13/content_5838452.htm


BEIJING, March 13 -- Construction is expected to commence this year on two fast transport routes linking Southwest China and Guangdong's Pearl River Delta region, one of China's economic hubs.

They include a high-speed railway and an expressway, both from Guizhou's provincial capital of Guiyang to Guangzhou, Lin Shusen, the governor of Guizhou, said while attending the annual session of the National People's Congress (NPC).

He said the projects would facilitate the development of logistics industry in the province.

"They'll also help move labor-intensive industries westwards from the Pearl River Delta region," Lin said.

The governor did not disclose the specific timetable for the high-speed railway, but said the Ministry of Railways had officially included it in its plan and "construction will start as soon as possible".

Designed to accommodate trains traveling at up to 250 kilometers per hour, the 820-kilometer tracks, with a budget of 69 billion yuan (8.9 billion U.S. dollars), will cut the travel time between the two cities from 21 hours to less than 5 hours.

The 890-kilometer expressway would reduce the travel time on road from 24 hours to about 8 hours, according to Peng Boyuan, director of the Guizhou provincial bureau of communications, who is also in Beijing attending the NPC meeting.

He told China Daily that construction work on the four-lane expressway would "definitely" start within the year and be completed by 2010.

Peng said the Guizhou section of the expressway would be about 290 kilometers long, and cost about 25 billion yuan (3.22 billion dollars). Most of the money would come from fundraising, and the rest from government subsidies.

He said the financial hurdles had been solved as banks had agreed to provide loans.

Because of a vast mountainous area, Guizhou's traffic system had not developed as fast as other provinces, and was an obstacle to optimum economic growth.

Last year, the gross domestic product (GDP) in Guizhou was about 216.5 billion yuan (27.8 billion dollars), only 8 percent of that in Guangdong.

(Source: China Daily)

[Adams3]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-03/13/content_5838452.htm

Let's hope this speeds up Guizhou growth! Guizhou is so poor now.

[wigo]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/politics/2007-03/22/content_5882953.htm


新华网北京３月２２日电（记者刘诗平）记者２２日从铁道部了解到，铁路部门正在全力以赴为第六次铁路大提速做最后阶段的准备工作，近日将按照提速新运行图组织时速２００公里及以上动车组快速客车模拟运行检查。

“通过这次模拟运行，检验提速准备工作和新运行图编制质量，为做好提速最后阶段的准备工作打好基础。”铁道部有关负责人说。第六次铁路大提速将于下月１８日正式实施，届时京哈、京沪、京广、胶济等既有铁路干线将实施２００公里速度级的提速，部分区段列车时速达到２５０公里。

对于即将进行的动车组模拟运行检查，铁道部指出，铁路各相关单位务必按照新的提速运行图实际运营要求，细致安排作业标准、作业流程和各专业衔接等重点模拟项目，确保大提速安全顺利实施。

据了解，为全面做好此次提速最后阶段准备工作，铁道部日前召开了专门会议，同时派出了８个专业工作组，分赴相关铁路局督促检查指导第六次大提速准备工作。铁道部指出，第六次大提速准备工作已进入最后攻坚阶段。铁路各部门必须切实加强对时速２００公里及以上提速区段主要工种人员的培训，加快培养专业技术管理和业务骨干队伍。同时，在认真学习新运行图文件的基础上，制订出本单位详细的新旧运行图交替方案，严格落实责任和各项安全措施。

与前五次铁路提速不同，第六次大提速从时速１６０公里提高到时速２００公里及以上。大量开行的城际快速旅客列车和中心城市间开行动车组快速旅客列车，成为此次提速的最大亮点。铁道部预计，提速后铁路客运能力可增加１８％。


万事俱备，只欠东风。:banana:
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[Jiangwho]

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THIS IS CRH1
http://news.xinhuanet.com/photo/2007-02/01/xin_00202040110114061836659.jpg

AND CRH2
http://news.xinhuanet.com/photo/2007-01/28/xin_302010428115212527838141.jpg

[Andrew]

Oh, I like that design. Got any technical specifications? How does it compare to CRH 1&2?

[Nozumi 300]

ohh nice!!!!

[wigo]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-04/13/content_5968991.htm

BEIJING, April 12 (Xinhua) -- China will put more than 500 China-made high-speed trains into operation this year after boosting the speed limit for rail traffic for the sixth time, the Ministry of Railways said on Thursday.

The speed boost will start on April 18, said Hu Yadong, the ministry's vice minister, at a press conference held in Beijing.

Hu said 280 high-speed trains will be put into operation on April 18 and a total 514 such trains be in use by the end of this year.

Hu said raising the speed limit will help to boost passenger and cargo capacity on the nation's 77,000-km railway lines by 18 percent and 12 percent respectively.

Travel time between major cities will be slashed by up to 50 percent as the trains will travel at speeds of up to 250 kilometers per hour, said Hu. Currently, express trains in China travel at an average of 115 kilometers per hour.

He Huawu, chief engineer of the ministry, said the upgrade of 6,003 kilometers of track has cost an estimated 29.6 billion yuan (3.8 billion U.S. dollars).

The high speed trains show that China has mastered technology that was once held by Japan, Germany and France, said Zhang Shuguang, the ministry's deputy chief engineer.


Classical example of market in exchange for technology. :applause:

[gaoanyu]

I am happy that Harbin-Beijing journey is shortened to only 8 hours.

But, I am sickened by the lie which says the speed of trains increase but the fare stay the same: the fact is that only the slower trains will have the same fare after the speedup on 18 April, the express services will cost more than twice as the current highest fare!

[nineth]

在中國組裝的車而已

[hmmwv]

在中國組裝的車而已

What's wrong then? Everyone knows that they are Made in China, not designed in China nor assembled in China.

[bendent]

well some things are designed and assembled and made in china by chinese companies, somethings are only made in china for foreign companies, the majority i guess is for foreign companies but the oens for own companies are increasing.

[UD2]

not nice at all, the 5s broke on the first day of service. Train sets for D27/28 had to be withdrown from service with no replacements avaliable.

[Andrew]

not nice at all, the 5s broke on the first day of service. Train sets for D27/28 had to be withdrown from service with no replacements avaliable.
Seriously? What happened?

[奔跑快驴]

技术核心是自主研发的

[zergcerebrates]

Seriously? What happened?

Yep, most of the CRH5 have problems for some reason and they couldn't meet the deadline for the 6th railway speed increase while the CRH1 and H2 can. I guess Italian tech really isn't that great?

[Red flag's egg]

where're the high-speed trains?
i nearly fainted this 5.1 golden-week , it's always so crowded ,and the speed of the train was even slowed compared to last year's!!

[snow is red]

What's wrong then? Everyone knows that they are Made in China, not designed in China nor assembled in China.

Wrong this is Chinese made, not Japanese, or German and assembled in China. It is both Chinese made and assembled in China

"The high speed trains show that China has mastered technology that was once held by Japan, Germany and France, said Zhang Shuguang, the ministry's deputy chief engineer"

[zergcerebrates]

Wrong this is Chinese made, not Japanese, or German and assembled in China. It is both Chinese made and assembled in China

"The high speed trains show that China has mastered technology that was once held by Japan, Germany and France, said Zhang Shuguang, the ministry's deputy chief engineer"

Don't be so sure when the article mention nothing about the type of train it was talking about. Were they talking about the CRH1 CRH2 CRH3 or CRH5 or was it some other unknown models?

[wigo]

Don't be so sure when the article mention nothing about the type of train it was talking about. Were they talking about the CRH1 CRH2 CRH3 or CRH5 or was it some other unknown models?

The answer to your question would be analogous to some kind of GRE reading. :)

He Huawu, chief engineer of the ministry, said the upgrade of 6,003 kilometers of track has cost an estimated 29.6 billion yuan (3.8 billion U.S. dollars).

This is exactly what CRH trains have covered in the latest upgrade.

[CarlosBlueDragon]

Wow...nice!!
Beijing --- Shanghai?? have??
Beijing --- Guangzhou?? have??
but Beijing --- Tibet?? have??
just ask only!!

[petermandelson]

2007年4月18日，中国铁路第六次提速，全面拉开了中国的高速铁路的建设序幕，据铁道部介绍，到2010年之前，中国政府将建约17000公里高速铁路。其中客运专线7000公里，这些客运专线有目前海内外备受瞩目的京沪高铁，以及京广、京哈、沈大、陇海等高铁线路，列车时速将达到200至300公里，届时，中国将拥有世界上最长的高速铁路网，整个建设费用高达12500亿元人民币。美国《华尔街日报》在“中国铁路大升级”的专题报道中，引用了亚洲开发银行交通运输专家睿纳哲（Nigel Rayner）这样一句话，“中国铁路扩张计划规模之大是史无前例的”。

　　第六次大提速后，铁道部部长刘志军在多个公开场合表示，铁道部要通过引进国外动车组的先进技术，“消化吸收再创新”，打造时速200公里及以上国产动车组制造平台。在铁道部针对第六次提速的新闻通稿中，本次提速采用的高速列车，被宣传为“国产化率达到了70%”。


　　但来自国内、外媒体零星的内幕报道和论坛上的消息披露，却让记者感到“70%国产化率”背后迷雾重重，一种“蹊跷”的感觉挥之不去。据记者所知，我国很早就开始了高速铁路的研究和实验工作，但本次提速的宣传资料，不但对这10多年来国内研究机构的努力和成果只字未提，甚至回避这方面提问的意图也非常明显，百思不得其解中，一封来自原科技部科技局金履忠、名为“铁道部丢失了自主创新优良传统”的汇报材料，让记者震惊了！

自主研究动车组全军覆灭

　　金履忠是科技部离休干部，曾任科技部科技局局长，这封洋洋洒洒近万言、据称是递交高层的汇报材料，详细披露了近年国产高速列车研究的系列不幸遭遇。

　　据金履忠的汇报材料透露：我国铁道部实际从1993年就开始通过系统合作和国际合作研究高速铁路机车。1999至2003年，先后成功研制出“蓝箭 ”、 “先锋”、“中华之星”、“长白山” 等型号的高速列车；“奥星”、“天梭”等高速电力机车；“西部之光” 、“DF8CJ”等内燃机车。但由于铁道部新一届**的决策，这些机车在国内市场化过程受阻，基本全军覆灭，具体情况是：

　　1、八列“蓝箭”高速动车组，经广深线运营数年，技术已经成熟。沈大线(沈阳至大 连)新订了四列，经前任铁道部领导认可、并支付了预付款后，2003年却遭到现铁道部无端的封杀，致使价值数千万元的配套进口部件(国有资产)至今还被废弃在库房，订单被取消。

　　2、“先锋号”高速动车组作为国家重点科技攻关项目，不但完成了研制和运行考核，还按程序通过了国家验收。在有望小批量投产、供进一步提速运营时，被铁道部压制，无限期封存。

　　3、“中华之星”高速动车组在通过了全面型式试验和秦沈客运专线上50多万公里的运行考核后，2005年年初即将遭遇象“先锋号”那样被封杀的命运时，由于52名院士联名向党中央、国务院反映真实情况，2005年8月“中华之星”才又投入试运营。但是，2006年8月，在完成了29万多公里载客考核后，再次被无限期封存的命运。

　　4、“长白山”高速动车组2003年研制完成即被就地封存。2005年用来进行了2次 “提速200公里/小时综合试验”(目的是考核新线路并非考核车辆)，在成渝线做试验时，由于媒体正面报道了自主研制的高速列车，触犯了铁道部某些领导的忌讳，立即再被封存至今。

　　5、“奥星”高速电力机车，2005年在完成100万公里运行考核后，既不允许继续 使用，也不允许回厂拆解研究，现停在郑州机务段任凭风雨侵蚀。

　　6、“天梭”高速电力机车，运行了10万公里，现停在郑州机务段。

　　7、“西部之光”内燃机车，完成了30万公里运行考核，现停在资阳工厂。

　　8、DF8CJ型内燃机车，完成了15万公里运行考核，现停在戚墅堰工厂。

　　在汇报材料中，金履忠对“中华之星”的遭遇最为惋惜，据文中介绍，“中华之星”高速列车是原国家计委安排的重点产业化项目，投资1.3亿，由12个企业、科研院所和大学共同完成，掌握了全部核心技术，拥有完全自主知识产权，其动力集中技术在相当一段时期内是很适合我国国情的。签的合同要求列车200公里/小时以上的速度，通过运行考核、并达到年产15列的产业化能力。全部完成原国家计委的要求后，由于铁道部有关领导施压，2005年7月北京阶段验收总结会上，迫使参与鉴定的专家和研制单位代表把“中华之星”定性在 160公里／小时下运营。在这个速度下，“中华之星”载客安全运营了29万多公里后进行检修。检修中，铁道部相关负责人又以“发现了某螺栓松动”为由，取消了它的运营资格。

　　金履忠认为，当初实验时，限定这些高速列车只许跑160公里/小时速度，铁道部是有明确意图的，就是为进口200公里/小时以上速度的高速列车制造借口，使国内自主研究高速列车止步即将开盘的高速铁路市场。而具有讽刺意味的是，“中华之星”动力车的前身，即同为200公里/小时的电力机车“奥星”号，早在2004年就出口到了哈萨克斯坦，至2006年底已运行了上百万公里，且经历了摄氏零下50℃的严寒考验，其间虽也暴露了一些技术问题，但都能很快解决。2006年，“奥星”又获两台订单，并成为哈萨克国家铁路百年纪念邮票的形象代表。金履忠想不通的是：外国都相信我国制造的机车可靠，在这个基础上改进后的“中华之星”，我们自己为什么反而不用？这究竟是依据什么作出的决策？

　　金履忠的另一个痛来自 “雪域神州”号内燃机车，本来，这一型号的机车是专为青藏铁路设计的，已经完成运行考核，情况良好。可铁道部2003年突然决定进口机车。甚至在采购招标时，不允许国产机车单独投标，只能作为外国公司的附属公司参与。结果GE公司原装的内燃机车中标。

　　其实，“雪域神州”在平原和高原的功率都比GE大。据实验，在最高海拔即 5072米处，GE的功率还达不到要求的2700KW。GE车虽有某些优点厂，但价格比“雪域神州”贵一倍，性价比不如“雪域神州”；在运行工程，CE车还发生过制动器失灵、柴油机连杆断裂等重大事故；并不比“雪域神州”可靠。

　　金履忠由此提出了几个尖锐的问题：铁道部作为政府采购重大装备，理应在同等条件下优先选购国产设备。为什么不许国内企业平等地参与投标? 为什么性价比远优于GE的“雪域神州”得不到铁道部的扶持，却去支持GE机车?此外，“中华之星”只因发现有螺栓松动，就被铁道部“枪毙”，不许投入营运； GE车发生了这样严重的事故，为什么却可以在青藏线正式营运?铁道部为什么如此宠爱外国公司?他直斥这些现象是“咄咄怪事”。


http://forum.xinhuanet.com/detail.jsp?id=45967659&pg=1

[Jiangwho]

原来这个论坛上''身藏不露''的国人还很多啊.

[baersworth]

据某些大侠讲国产车的可靠性还是差点. 在高原上死火可是会出人命.

[oliver999]

我发现中国人满狡猾的，起个外国名字，签名上又看不出是什么国家的，呵呵。隐藏得比较深.

[Jiangwho]

^^ ''我党''之所以成功,很大部分归功于优秀的地下工作者.:lol:

[lilylidou]

利益啊 领导们都希望利益最大化啊

[petermandelson]

据某些大侠讲国产车的可靠性还是差点. 在高原上死火可是会出人命.

中华之星不比他们羞

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/MuGy_WOjGdQ/
http://bj.daqi.com/editor/slide/ent_slide/1517841/1.html#t

[ice787306]

Train manufacturing sector will become the backbone of China's economic growth,
because train manufacturers is much simpler than large aircraft manufacturers
^^

[petermandelson]

Ding

[ihilaryduff]

还是先把农村的路修好吧？？ 看看中国的农村。一到下雨天，都变成泥湖子路啦。

[lilylidou]

忽悠

[baersworth]

中华之星不比他们羞
==================
某些大侠讲中华之星很多元件靠进囗, 而且不稳定.

[snow is red]

China to have 12,000 km of express rail lines by 2020
(Xinhua)
Updated: 2007-11-18 19:58


China has started construction on 16 new express passenger rail projects and is expected to have 12,000 kilometers of express rail lines by 2020, the Ministry of Railways said Sunday.

New express rail lines will link up provincial capitals and large and medium-sized cities, as well as cities in the booming Bohai Sea, Yangtze and Pearl River regions.

The construction of such lines is aimed to substantially enhance the country's rail transport capacities, as stated in the country's mid- and long-term plan on railway networks.
The 115 km express rail line connecting Beijing and Tianjin would become the country's first that allows a maximum speed of 300 kilometers per hour. Track laying on the route started just days ago.

The line will be ready for operation in time for the 2008 Olympic Games in August, and will shorten the journey between Tianjin and Beijing from 70 minutes at present to around 30 minutes, according to Liu Rong, director of the railway construction project.

China's State Council has also approved the feasibility report on the planned 1,318 km high-speed railway linking Shanghai and Beijing after nearly 10 years of preparations. The project, if completed, will be the longest high-speed rail line in the world.

The Beijing-Shanghai express railway is expected to cut travel time between the two cities from around 10 hours at present to about five hours.

China's fastest domestic trains currently run at a speed of up to 250 kilometers per hour.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-11/18/content_6262157.htm

[Red flag's egg]

2020 seemes far away.since china grows so fast that a year in china is shortened

[big-dog]

good news!

香港文汇报海峡西岸新闻中心记者武毅田、米南、陈卓栋莆田23日电/

备受关注的厦（门）深（圳）铁路和向（江西向塘）莆（福建莆田）高速铁路今日在福建同时开工建设。这两项重点工程的总投资额达935亿元(人民币，下同)，并分别于2011年底和2012年建成并投入使用。此间分析认为，厦深铁路建成后，上海至深圳的车程将缩短至9小时左右，而在此之前，沪深乘火车至少需要22小时。此外，2011年，内地东南沿海快速通道将全线贯通，珠三角、长三角及海峡西岸三大经济区将实现「无缝链接」，并通过资源集成形成完整的经济联合板块.

　厦深铁路是中国规划中「沿海通道」的重要路段，是全国铁路规划中「四纵四横」快速客运路网的主线之一。该铁路全长约501.7公里，连接厦门、漳州、汕头、潮州、揭阳、汕尾、惠州、深圳等8个城市，总投资近417亿元，由铁道部、福建省和广东省共同合资兴建，其中，福建段投资120亿元。交通部门提供的数据显示，当前厦门至深圳之间客运需经由广州中转，总行程耗时约14小时。厦门市副市长潘世建表示，厦深铁路建成后，厦门与深圳之间的车程仅需3个小时，是现时运行时间的五分之一.


厦深将现3小时经济圈

　与此同时，铁路并将延伸到沿线城市的居民区和新发展区，在福建与广东以及港澳地区之间形成一个3小时经济圈，不仅将充分发挥港澳地区的经济辐射能力，亦将促进珠三角、粤东地区及闽南地区的经济共同发展.

　记者还了解到，为应对铁路畅通后的物流快速增长，特别是打通两岸物流与内陆腹地之间的通道，厦门将斥资15.65亿元启建与厦深铁路配套的特大型货场.


配套对台大型物流货场

　据有关负责人介绍，该货场总规划面积约为5700亩，拟与厦深铁路同时建成，主要服务厦门、漳州、泉州等闽南地区及粤东地区、两岸贸易.

　货场包括2条装箱作业线、2条站台仓库、1条笨重货物作业线和1条物流区作业线等，建成后将具备货柜、长大笨重货物、普通货物的到发和中转以及与物流相结合的运销配等一体化功能。

　据预测，2010年货场物流量将达到为1,690万吨，2015年则达到2,750万吨，预计货场日汽车流量将达2,500至3,500辆。

[hzkiller]

宁波和台州也快连通了 以后宁波-台州-温州-厦门-深圳这条铁路开通 我们上虞也可以通宵有火车了
宁波不再是火车终点站了

[big-dog]

Beijing-Tianjin express rail track-laying finished! (http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2007-12-16/104014532941.shtml)

Track laying is ginished on Dec 16 2007
http://i1.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/2007-12-16/U2240P1T1D14532941F21DT20071216150313.jpg

It will open in first half of 2008, it's also the first rail train in China to reach over 300km/h
http://i3.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/2007-12-16/U2240P1T1D14532941F23DT20071216150313.jpg

The 120km Beijing-Tianjin express rail has 86% rail on bridges.
http://i1.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/2007-12-16/U50P1T1D14532941F1394DT20071216133502.jpg

Rail at Beijing South Station (U/C)
http://i1.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/2007-12-16/U2240P1T1D14532941F1395DT20071216142708.jpg

新华网天津12月16日电 (记者 齐中熙 王晔彪) 16日上午，京津城际铁路跨天津市新开路立交桥桥头铺下最后一根钢轨，顺利实现全线贯通。这标志着中国第一条时速300公里城际铁路建设取得重大胜利，为2008年北京奥运会前如期投入运营打下了坚实的基础。

　　京津城际铁路是中国《中长期铁路网规划》的一条重要快速通道，是中国率先建成的第一条时速300公里的城际铁路。该工程连接北京、天津两大直辖市，线路全长120公里。工程建成后，北京、天津间火车全程直达运行仅需30分钟，列车最小行车间隔3分钟，对加快京津区域经济一体化进程，促进环渤海地区的经济交流和人员往来具有十分重要的作用。

　　该工程2005年7月4日开工建设，2008年初进入综合调试阶段，北京奥运会前正式开通并投入运营。

　　京津城际铁路由北京南站东端引出，沿既有京山线南侧向东，过亦庄工业园区、永乐新城至天津杨村后，沿既有京山线北侧至天津站。其中86%为桥梁工程，沿途设北京南、亦庄、永乐、武清、天津等5座车站。

　　据悉，京津城际铁路首次大面积采用无砟轨道技术，首次采用500米长钢轨工地焊接施工工艺，跨区间进行长大无缝线路铺设，主要结构均采用高性能混凝土，线下结构与无砟轨道系统实现了高精度对接。特别是工程采用的无砟轨道技术，是经过引进消化吸收再创新的国际领先技术，具有线路寿命长、维护周期长、粉尘污染少、噪音低的特点，技术含量、质量要求之高在中国铁路建设史上前所未有。

　　铁道部有关负责人指出，该工程全线顺利铺通，标志着中国在高速铁路建设技术上取得重大突破，对大规模铁路客运专线建设具有重要示范意义。

　　根据《中长期铁路网规划》，到2020年，中国将建成省会城市及大中城市间的快速客运通道，在环渤海地区、长江三角洲地区、珠江三角洲地区形成城际快速客运网。

　　目前，铁路客运专线建设进展顺利，随着京津城际轨道交通工程等一批客运专线的陆续建成并投入使用，将为广大人民群众提供更加安全、快捷、舒适、方便的铁路运输服务，显著提升人们的旅行生活质量。

　　新华网快讯：我国首条时速300公里的城际铁路京津城际铁路16日10时30分全线铺通。这条铁路将于2008年上半年正式运营，届时北京到天津仅需30分钟。

[BarbaricManchurian]

Cool! Now it will only take me 30 minutes to get to Tianjin from Beijing airport, down from the 2.5 hours it takes now.

[big-dog]

It connects Tianjin new East railway station and the new Beijing South station, not Beijing airport.

[pflo777]

how much will a ticket cost for the new high speed train?

A whole new High-Speed railway line in 2,5 years, thats impressive.
China is really producing one miracle after another.....

In Europe, such a line takes 10-12 years to build.....

[amirtaheri]

Though the trains are somewhat disappointing, aesthetically speaking.

Other than that, the pace of development in China beggers belief! I do question how safe some of the developments are, considering how fast these lines are being built.

[snow is red]

I don't know if that is the real trains though or just the test ones but if you look at this picture, you will see what I mean

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd175/02bigbaby/railways.jpg

[snow is red]

Anyone has any information on this ?

[snow is red]

And regarding to the subject of safety, I think we will have to ask the people here who are fortunate enough to try out the trains and tell us their experiences.

[hkskyline]

京津城際鐵路時速300公里
全程半小時 京奧前通車
17/12/2007
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【本報訊】 內地首條時速三百公里的城際鐵路「京津（北京至天津）城際鐵路」，昨日上午全線貫通。預計二○○八年北京奧運會前正式通車，屆時北京到天津僅需三十分鐘，令中國北方兩大直轄市一體化加速實現。

京津城際鐵路是內地「中長期鐵路網規劃」的重要快速通道，也是中國率先建成的首條時速三百公里的城際鐵路，工程連接北京、天津兩個直轄市，鐵路全長一百二十公里，對加快京津區域經濟一體化進程，促進環渤海地區的經濟交流和人員往來具有重要作用。

為高速客運網定基礎
中鐵十八局集團京津城際項目部指揮長范成國表示，京津城際鐵路既是中國鐵路跨越式發展的標誌性和示範性工程，同時也是北京奧運會交通配套工程。專家指出，京津城際鐵路工程是中國現代化鐵路建設的一個開端，通過京津城際這一工程，中國將為下一步建設世界一流的客運專線和高速鐵路奠定基礎。

首採用無碴軌道技術
該鐵路首次大面積採用無碴軌道技術，具有壽命長、維護周期長、污染少、噪音低的特點，創中國鐵路建設史先河。根據「中長期鐵路網規劃」，到二○二○年，內地將建成省會城市及大中城市間的快速客運通道，在環渤海地區、長江三角洲地區、珠江三角洲地區形成城際快速客運網。

[zergcerebrates]

What train are they using?

[Bandit]

Was a maglev train ever considered for this line? If 86% of the line is elevated it probably would've been ideal for maglev.

[big-dog]

it's part of the national express rail network plan, as far as I know, maglev has been blocked out from the plan.

[amirtaheri]

Would have been much cooler though. China is ideally suited to have a large maglev network. Sure it costs a bomb, but the Government is pouring in investment into infrastructure, albeit at the cost of other areas. They can't do it in the UK because it's 100 years too late and the UK has a full and extensive conventional rail system and is small enough to ensure this is enough. China however is huge and a maglev system would compete with domestic flights by significantly reducing the length of travel. However, that being said, looking at the cost of the maglev in Shanghai, 50RMB one way for a 5-10 minute ride, one would have to wonder at whether or not people would be able to afford a ride from Shanghai to Beijing via Maglev!

[didu]

^^ sure, would you be interested in chipping in the extra cash they'd need for a maglev?

[pflo777]

the economics of maglev is one of the best kept secrets in the whole world.

The only firm, that offers maglev as well as conventional high speed rail is the consortium around Siemens and Max Boegl.

They provided the technology (trains as well as guidway construction technology) for the CRH3 (Valero CN) route from Bejing to Tianjin as well as the Maglev in Shanghai.

And there is one nice Detail that tells us where the future is :

Siemens was willing to transfer even the core technologie of its Valero Wheel/Rail System to China, but they were NOT willing to transfer the core technology of the maglev ;)

Some firends of mine who worked on the Shanghai malgev told me, that in case of a complete technology transfer, the shanghai-bejing maglev would already be UC...

But I can understand, that China doenst want to be dependent on a foreing firm in such an important project....

[Ainnur]

Is there an official date for the opening of the line? According to what I have read, the line will link Beijing South Station and Tianjin new Railway Station. Will them be finished soon?

[snow is red]

the economics of maglev is one of the best kept secrets in the whole world.

The only firm, that offers maglev as well as conventional high speed rail is the consortium around Siemens and Max Boegl.

They provided the technology (trains as well as guidway construction technology) for the CRH3 (Valero CN) route from Bejing to Tianjin as well as the Maglev in Shanghai.

And there is one nice Detail that tells us where the future is :

Siemens was willing to transfer even the core technologie of its Valero Wheel/Rail System to China, but they were NOT willing to transfer the core technology of the maglev ;)

Some firends of mine who worked on the Shanghai malgev told me, that in case of a complete technology transfer, the shanghai-bejing maglev would already be UC...

But I can understand, that China doenst want to be dependent on a foreing firm in such an important project....



I don't know if your friend is right or this video is right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSYQ8BkD_58&eurl=http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=458705

[pflo777]

^^^^

what do these two things have to do with each other?

btw: are there no protets against the CRH construction lines?
One thing is fore sure: the track of the CRH is more massive, and it makes more noise, although its slower.

[staff]

^^
Many health issues (that maglev track supposedly has some kind of magnetic radiation that affects the human body) has risen in Shanghai as of late.

[Sen]

I am pretty sure the train is Velaro.
In November 2005, China ordered 60 Velaro trains[2] for the Beijing-Tianjin high-speed rail line. The 8-car trains will be very similar to the Velaro E, but 300 mm wider to fit in almost 50% more seats in a 2+3 layout. In the CRH3 version, a 200 m Velaro train will seat 600 passengers.[4] These trains are being manufactured jointly by Siemens in Germany and CNR Tangshan in China.
Similar to this:
http://www.autopilotas.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/2007-07-03_velaro_greiciausi-traukiniai_1.jpg

[big-dog]

First I can't believe there's no direct rail between Nanjing and Hangzhou! The news says the rail will reduce the traveling time between the two major cities from over 4 hours to 1 hour.

http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2008-02-16/082814949880.shtml

　　新华网南京2月16日电 (记者 石永红)江苏省铁路办日前透露，南京至杭州铁路(宁杭铁路)项目已经中国国家发改委批准立项，有望在2008年内开工建设。

　　宁杭铁路建成后，将使南京与杭州间铁路运行时间由目前最快4小时缩短至1个多小时。“长三角”只有上海与南京、上海与杭州之间有直达铁路，南京与杭州之间没有直达铁路的历史将结束。

　　宁杭铁路的兴建将进一步拉动江苏西南、浙江西北地区的社会经济发展，增强南京、杭州两个中心城市对沿线城镇的经济辐射能力。

[pflo777]

did they say what the maximum speed will be like, and which CRH trainsets they will use?

[big-dog]

^^ sorry it's not mentioned in the news. But 1 hour transportation time means it's a high speed rail.

[elfabyanos]

I don't know if that is the real trains though or just the test ones but if you look at this picture, you will see what I mean

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd175/02bigbaby/railways.jpg

That train is a CRH2, based on the Shinkansen E2-1000 series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Railways_CRH2

[Clashman]

The CRH-2 is what's currently being used for the Beijing-Tianjin route. It makes the trip from the Tianjin temporary station to Beijing station in around 70 minutes. The ticket prices haven't been set in stone, but were announced as being "in the 60-80 yuan range". Personally, I'm probably still going to end up taking the current "D" train most of the time, as I can't really justify paying that much extra for a train that isn't going to take me to the heart of Beijing, (there won't be a subway connecting to Beijing South for some time, while the main train station is right next to the subway), because I'll probably just waste the extra half hour trying to get to the subway, and probably a fair additional amount of money, as well.

[nineth]

端正我国高速铁路装备的发展方向 ----为中国一项命运攸关的产业呐喊！

原国家科委科技干部局局长、科技部研究中心研究员 金履忠
2007年4月

一、近几年铁道部丢掉了自主创新的优良传统

长期以来我国铁路有自主创新的优良传统，铁路机车车辆工业的成就与船舶工业同样出色。可是近几年铁道部丢掉了这个传统，否定自主研发的成果，靠超大批量地购买外国的高速列车和机车来实施铁路高速计划，带来一系列严重的问题。

1．我国自主研制的、已基本成熟、可实现产业化的高速列车和机车不能实现产业化投入正常运营。我国铁路部门1993年就开始了高速列车的研究，立足于自主研制，同时部分系统、部件开展国际合作。1999至2003年，先后成功研制出“蓝箭”（注1）、“先锋”（注2）、“中华之星”（注3）、“长白山” （注4）型号的高速列车；“奥星”（注5）、“天梭”（注6）高速电力机车；“西部之光”（注7）、DF8CJ（注8）内燃机车，共四种高速列车、两种高速电力机车和两种内燃机车(以下简称“422”)。为我国的高速铁路和重载铁路提供了急需的运载工具。即将实现产业化时，因现任铁道部主要领导的做法，自主创新方向被否定，“422”的前途渺茫，重大科技成果面临丢失的危险。具体情况是：

①、八列“蓝箭”高速动车组经广深线运营数年技术已经成熟。沈大线(沈阳至大连)新订了四列，经前任铁道部领导认可、并支付了预付款后，2003年却遭到现铁道部无端的封杀，致使价值数千万元的配套进口部件(国有资产)至今还被废弃在库房，订单被取消。

②、“先锋号”高速动车组作为国家重点科技攻关项目，不但完成了研制和运行考核，还按程序通过了国家验收。在有望小批量投产，供进一步提速运营时，被铁道部压制，无限期被封存。

3、 “中华之星”高速动车组在通过了全面型式试验和秦沈客运专线（注9）上50多万公里的运行考核后，2005年年初即将遭遇象“先锋号”那样被封杀的命运时，由于52名院士联名向党中央、国务院反映真实情况，2005年8月“中华之星”才投入了试运营。但是，今年8月在完成了29万多公里载客考核后，终究没有逃脱被无限期封存的命运。

④、“长白山”高速动车组2003年研制完成即被就地封存。2005年用来进行了2次“提速200公里/小时综合试验”(目的是考核新线路并非考核车辆)，在成渝线做试验时，由于媒体正面报道了自主研制的高速列车，触犯了铁道部某些领导的忌讳，立即再被封存至今。

⑤、“奥星”高速电力机车，2005年在完成100万公里运行考核后，既不允许继续使用，也不允许回厂拆解研究，现停在郑州机务段任凭风雨侵蚀。

⑥、“天梭”高速电力机车，运行了10万公里，现停在郑州机务段任凭风雨侵蚀。

⑦、“西部之光”内燃机车，完成了30万公里运行考核，现停在资阳工厂。

⑧、DF8CJ型内燃机车，完成了15万公里运行考核，现停在戚墅堰工厂。

其中具有代表性、备受全国关注、最为可惜的是“中华之星”。

“中华之星”高速列车是原国家计委安排的重点产业化项目，投资1.3亿，由12个企业、科研院所和大学共同完成，掌握了全部核心技术，拥有完全自主知识产权，其动力集中技术在相当一段时期内是很适合我国国情的。签的合同要求列车按200公里/小时以上的速度，通过运行考核、并达到年产15列的产业化能力。全部完成原国家计委的要求后，由于铁道部的高压，在2005年7月北京阶段验收总结会上，迫使参与鉴定的专家和研制单位代表把“中华之星”定性在 160公里／小时下运营。于是在这个速度下，载客安全运营了29万多公里后进行检修。检修中，铁道部又借口发现某螺栓松动，取消了它的运营资格。
其他“422”项目出于相同原因，同样被排斥、被打击、被否定。

目前，铁道部正在买断“422”。“买断”是为了用钱来封住制造企业的口。更为可怕的是，他们无端地限定自主开发的高速列车只许跑160公里/小时速度(目的是为进口200公里/小时以上速度的高速列车制造借口)使之永远没有机会进入高速铁路的运输市场。
试验证明，自主开发的“422”是可用的，可铁道部某些人就是不用；民族工业的新成果需要爱护支持，某些人就是要置之死地而后快。

具有讽刺意味的是，“中华之星”动力车的前身，即同样为200公里/小时的电力机车“奥星”号，2004年出口到哈萨克斯坦，至今已经运行了100多万公里，经历了摄氏零下50℃严寒考验，虽然也暴露出一些技术问题，但都很快得到解决。今年又新获得两台订单(连前共买五台)，即将于2007年1月交付哈方。而且，中国这种高速机车成为哈方国家铁路百年纪念邮票的形象代表。通过实践，外国都相信我国制造的机车可靠，在这个基础上改进后的“中华之星”动力车，为什么我们自己反而不用呢?这种墙内开花墙外香的现象，昭示了国内企业不容否定的研发实力，同时难道不说明铁道部存在问题么?

还有， “雪域神州”号内燃机车是专为青藏铁路设计的，已经完成运行考核，情况良好。可铁道部2003年突然决定进口机车。在采购招标时，不许国产机车单独投标，只能作为外国公司的附属公司参与。于是78台GE公司原装的内燃机车中标进口。其实“雪域神州”在平原和高原的功率都比GE大。据实验，在最高海拔即5072米处，GE的功率还达不到要求的2700KW。GE车虽有某些优点厂但价格贵一倍，性价比远不如“雪域神州”；还曾发生过制动器失灵、柴油机连杆断等重大事故；并不比“雪域神州”可靠。铁道部作为政府采购重大装备，理应在同等条件下，优先选购国产设备。为什么不许国内企业平等地参与投标?为什么性价比远优于GE的“雪域神州”得不到铁道部的扶持，却去支持GE机车?岂非咄咄怪事。还有，“中华之星”只因发现有螺栓松动，就被铁道部“枪毙”，不许投入营运；GE车发生了这样严重的事故，为什么却可以在青藏线正式营运呢?铁道部为什么这样宠爱外国公司呢?能不令我们产生疑问么?

2，不贯彻党中央、国务院自主创新的方针，不以购买技术，增强自主创新能力为主，而是主要购买硬件。我国的铁路机车车辆工业在铁道部的高压下，正在从自主创新型向技术依附型下滑。

通过少量购买外国列车，引进、学习国外先进技术，是后进国家实现技术进步的一条有效途径。这方面有不少成功的案例。
二十年前，我国用3亿美元从欧洲五十赫兹集团引进150台8K机车及其全套技术，经过持续地消化吸收再创新，使我国的“韶山”系列机车质量达到了世界交直机车的顶峰，使铁路在几年内实现了五次大提速，并使国产机车大量出口到国际市场。其中，“韶山”机车的硅元件，经过持续创新，不但占领了国内铁路市场、向国家电网高压输变电供货，而且大量出口，在高端市场与ABB这样的跨国公司竞争。

上届铁道部对研制高速列车和机车，有明确的战略战术和步骤。1993年就开始了基础研究；后来租赁一列X2000高速列车在广深线示范运行，使国内对高 速列车有了一致的认识；从 1999年与国外合作研制“蓝箭”高速列车开始，“自主+合作”的研制模式步入了快速发展的轨道。五年内开发出来的“422” 重大成果充分证明，铁道部有能力正确领导我国高速列车的研制事业，制造企业也有能力开发我国自己的高速列车。

其它后进的、发展高速铁路的国家 (如韩国、西班牙)也买外国的高速列车。他们购买的目的，也是为了培植自己的研制和生产能力。因此他们选择适合自己国情的某国列车，买的列车数量较少，重点在迫使卖方转让核心技术。如，韩国以较低的价格购买了法国的300公里/小时高速列车(按：韩国只买300公里小时列车，不买200公里小时列车，因为掌握了前者，要制造后者就很容易了)，每列20辆，定员935人，46列只花了21亿美元，不但得到了包括核心技术在内的全部技术，而且直接参与法国下一代高速列车的开发项目；并取得出口高速列车的权利。目前韩国已掌握了高速列车的设计、制造技术，国产化率达到87％，已经可以出口。

尤其值得我们重视的是，其自主设计的350公里/小时高速列车的变频技术已经超过法国。

可是我国共购买了法国、德国、日本三个国家的高速列车一共280列(其中160列为200公里/小时，120列为300公里/小时)，每列8辆，定员只有600多人，共计人民币553亿。加上购买 1098台机车(电力机车420台和内燃机车678台)的人民币305亿和技术转让费5亿美元，这几次引进共花了人民币900亿(折合110亿美元)。就是说与韩国比，我们购买的高速列车以"2.43倍的总车辆数、3.24倍的总资金、每辆车贵33％”这样高的代价，买来的是近60％为低水平的200公里 /小时的列车和以组装为主的制造技术；而所谓的“技术转让”，只不过是外方将其部分技术转移到其控制下的合资企业，中方人员并不掌握核心的程序和电路。买回的三个国家的列车，其技术、规格不相同，难以通用，在以后的维修和运用方面将给我国带来巨大的困难；购买外国车也没有与我国自主开发的高速列车的工作相结合。

为什么20年前铁道部能高明地弓I进8K机车的核心技术，现在反而不高明了呢?为什么有了韩国的成功经验，我们不借鉴?最近这次引进前，有专家纷纷献计献策，还有专业的研究报告(注10)可以做参考，为什么不采纳呢?不能不承认，现在铁道部领导存在的问题确实不轻。

他们自知这样超大批量地购买外国高速列车和机车理亏，于是加以包装，说他们是“实现了核心技术全面引进”，“消化吸收再创新取得重大成果”。前面已经说明，核心技术外方至今没有转让，我们何来“全面引进”?更谈不到“消化吸收再创新”了。
今天的现实是，铁道部既没有引进到任何实质性的核心技术，也没有兴趣让国内企业自主研制。铁路机车车辆工业在铁道部的这种“作为”下，正在从自主创新型向技术依附型下滑；从我国运输装备产业的先进行列下降到最落后的地步。请看：在党中央、国务院的正确领导下，我国的船舶工业很辉煌，已占据国际市场18％的份额，很快将由世界第三上升到第二位；合资企业生产的外国品牌轿车在国内市场的比重在下降，创新型企业生产的中国品牌轿车已上升到国内市场的第一位(占 26.5％)；民用大飞机即将开始研制。唯独机车车辆走了相反的道路，由自主开发转为全部向国外购买；本来比韩国先进得多的我国机车车辆工业，在高速列车方面已落后于韩国；违背了党中央、国务院“自主创新”的方针，与建设创新型国家的目标背道而驰。这样继续下去，很有可能面临被外国跨国公司并购的危险。

3、高价采购装备有“外国芯”的机车，大大增加了运输成本；同时，以“杀鸡取卵”方式压制国内机车价格，使我国机车车辆工业面临生存危机。

从铁路运输部门看，由于购买的外国高速列车价格昂贵，一般比国产高速列车要贵一两倍，增大了铁路客运的成本。已经扭亏为盈的我国铁路运输部门，又可能重 新陷入亏损的尴尬局面；否则就要大幅度提高票价，在航空、公路运输激烈
竞争的情况下，要加价是不容易的，很可能处于两难的境地。目前，铁路提速所需要的大量基础设施的改造资金都压在铁路运营部门肩上，各铁路局只能挤占设备维修费、收紧职工裤腰带。这几年，垄断行业经营形势纷纷看好，职工福利良好，唯独铁路职工不能分享这个成果，原因就在于铁道部为外国企业贡献的市场份额和利润太多了。
外国的高速列车大量进口，我国常规机车车辆的生产数量在急剧减少，高速列车的制造任务寥寥无几，只剩下为国外配套的“车壳”工业了(注11)。眼下，铁 道部又打算以空前的规模购买 1500台装备“外国芯”的六轴机车，其中，一部分还拟整机进口。我国的货运机车包括大同—秦皇岛线两万吨重载列车的机车，已经可以国内制造，没有任何必须进口的理由。“外国芯”的价格很昂贵，基本是刚性的。外企很了解今天的铁道部，只要他们掌握核心技术，铁道部必然求他们，无力讨价还价。价格的压力只能转嫁给国内机车车辆企业(经过体制改革，机车车辆企业已经从铁道部独立出去，成立了两个集团公司，铁道部不负责他们的盈亏，反而成为他们的买主了)。国内机车车辆企业，为了维持职工生活，别说牺牲利润，即使亏损，也要争取订单。因大量进口，我国机车车辆企业普遍任务不足，各工厂不定期地出现了停工现象，停工期间职工只能领取最低保障工资。各工厂围绕铁道部讨饭吃的现象，更加滋长了部分铁道部干部的“老大”作风，滋长了他们肆无忌惮的越级指挥。本来建设高速铁路，是我国机车车辆工业难得的机遇，可是在铁道部的“作为”下，反而成为灾难了。

铁路运输基层和机车车辆工业职工的情绪，可以用“怨声载道”四字来形容，哪里还有一点和谐的影子，与中央的要求差距太大了。铁道部不只否定自己研制的高速列车，而是把整个机车车辆工业都否定了。曾经与船舶工业同样辉煌的机车车辆工业，被人为地沦落到这个地步，能不令人痛心?

4、“外国芯” 使国家战略安全存在隐患。铁路是国家交通运输的大动脉，高速列车和机车既是国家的重要产业，也事关国家安全的大局。此次引进高速列车的牵引、网络控制、制动、辅助系统和ATP／ATO／ATC的关键技术，无线网络接入和GPS等远程控制和监测等手段，都由国外企业掌控，使技术供应商具有信息不对称优势。敌对势力需要时，就可能使我国的高速列车、机车和铁路网整个系统陷于瘫痪，国家将面临极大威胁。因此中国的高速列车和机车的核心控制系统必须由中国人自己掌握，必须采用我国自己研制、生产的系统！

5、有可能动摇国人对自主创新的信心，滋生不和谐因素。
我国自主开发的高速列车，实践证明可靠，但长期不能投入生产、运行，却花巨额资金、外汇从国外进口。这类消息刊登在各种报刊及因特网上，广为人知。两年前因特网上八万人签名，反对进口新干线高速列车，要求使用“中华之星”的签名信，由网民亲自送交到了铁道部。部分机车科技人才，看到在国内事业无望，纷纷跳槽到外企或干脆移民国外。全国科技大会召开及党中央《关于自主创新的决定》公布已近一年，铁道部只是在场合需要时，口头上也喊一喊自主创新，但反
对自主 开发高速列车的实质和做法没有丝毫改变。出于爱国，广大群众对铁道部极度不满，自然是可以理解的。
令我们极为担心的是，如果问题长期得不到解决，这种不满情绪可能转移方向，轻者可能动摇国人对我国自主创新事业的信心，重则可能迁怒于党中央、国务院，这是我们极不愿看到的。

二、出现上述问题的原因

我们认为主要在于铁道部的主要领导同志，急于想在我国的几大干线尽快实现铁路客运的高速化，造成轰动效应，因而违背了事物的客观规律和自主创新的方针，结果事与愿违。

大量实践证明，铁路客运的现代化、高速化，必需主要依靠自己的力量，靠买是买不来的。国土面积比我国小的多、人口少得多的韩国、西班牙都主要依靠自己的力量，我国人口这样多，国土面积这样大，能够买来一个铁路客运的高速化吗?

三、为了端正我国高速铁路装备的发展方向，建议：

1．停止再进口高速列车及机车。

2．仿照大飞机的做法，请一位副总理挂帅，成立由发改委、科技部、中国工程院、铁道部、南北车集团组成的领导小组，全权负责“422”高速列车和机车的考核、鉴定、增购和产业化等事宜。由他们组织铁道科学院及有关研究所、工厂、大学、铁路局的专家组成专家组，在他们的领导下，负责“422”高速列车和机车的鉴定。对“中华之星”等自主开发的高速列车与进口的一起进行运行考核，根据车辆限速和线路限速安排运行速度。

3、建议京—沈线作为高速列车自主创新和高速铁路的试点，同时增购数列“中华之星”，按200公里/小时的速度运行，作到4小时到达。

允许研制“中华之星”等高速列车的工厂、研究所和大学的科技人员参与进口高速列车的安装、调试、试验，尽可能消化吸收国外的先进技术，用于改进我国自己研制的产品。

4、要从根本上改革我国交通运输的管理体制。鉴于目前铁道部对政企不分的现状不是改革而是强化，建议在适当的时候，取消彼此独立的交通运输管理部门(交通部、铁道部、民航总局)，成立统一管理各种运输方式的运输部，以便立足全局，综合发挥各种运输方式的优势(美国、日本等发达国家都是这样的管理体制。在 1988年前后，人大常委已通过决议成立运输部。但因此后不久铁路出现事故而搁置)。成立运输部后，鉴于铁路运输的网络性很强，目前的铁路运输管理局系统可以改造为中国铁路运输总公司系统，归口运输部管理。由于没有了铁道部，铁路运输总公司必然会选择经济、实用、先进的设备，因为只有这样才能降低成本，提高经济效益。我从事交通运输及其装备的科技管理工作已近50年，看到一个先进的、充满活力的机车车辆工业被搞成目前这个样子，怎能不感到痛心，怎能不忧心如焚，寝食难安。恳请高层派人查清事实真相，端正我国高速铁路装备的发展方向，挽救我国的机车车辆工业。

我以56年的党龄向组织保证，以上反映的情况是符合实际，经得起检验的；否则，我愿接受党纪国法的制裁。

2006年12月7日

[nineth]

附注：

(1)“先锋号”高速列车：2001年研制，200km／h动力分散型高速列车，与日本新干线车辆相近，最高试验速度达到292km／h。采用了以交流传动和网络控制为代表的先进技术，除变流器从日本三菱公司采购外，其它全部自主研制。数量：1列。

(2)“中华之星”高速列车：2002年研制，270km／h动力集中型高速列车，与法国ICEl车辆相近，最高试验速度达到321.5km／h。采用了以交流传动和网络控制为代表的先进技术，全部自主研制。数量：1列。

(3) “长白山”高速列车：2003年研制，200km／h动力分散型高速列车，与德国ICE3车辆相近，最高试验速度达到224km／h。采用了以交流传动和网络控制为代表的先进技术。其中，牵引系统和控制系统从庞巴迪公司采购，制动系统从克诺尔公司采购，辅助电源系统从国内与庞巴迪公司的合资企业采购，故称“三个半系统从国外采购”，其它自主研制。数量：2列。

(4)“蓝箭”高速列车：1999年研制，200km／h动力集中型高速列车，与瑞典X2000车辆相近，最高试验速度达到249km／h。采用了以交流传动和网络控制为代表的先进技术。其中，牵引系统和控制系统从庞巴迪公司采购，其它自主研制。数量：8列。

(5)“奥星”电力机车。2001年研制，200km／h客运电力机车，功率4800kW，最高试验速度达到240km／h。采用了以交流传动和网络控制为代表的先进技术。全部系统自主研制。数量：3台。

(6)“天梭”电力机车。2002年研制，200km／h客运电力机车，功率4800kW。采用了以交流传动和网络控制为代表的先进技术。全部系统自主研制。数量：1台。

(7)“西部之光”内燃机车。2001年研制，120km／h货运内燃机车，功率5000马力。采用了以交流传动和网络控制为代表的先进技术。全部系统自主研制。数量：1台。

(8)DF8CJ内燃机车。2002年研制，120km／h货运内燃机车，功率6000马力。采用了以交流传动和网络控制为代表的先进技术。采购庞巴迪公司变流器模块，其它自主研制。数量：1台。

(9) 秦沈客运专线是我国第一条铁路客运专线，全长407公里，全线按200km／h以上速度设计，山海关至绥中北区间可进行300km／h试验。列车在山海关至沈阳北区间考核，山海关至锦州南166公里限速200km／h，锦州南至沈阳北225公里限速160km／h。

(10)《中国轨道交通运输装备制造业发展战略研究》，国家发展和改革委员会研究课题。(11)、韩国颁布过《首套截止法》，规定同类大型成套设备只准进口一套，其他需求必须以自主的消化吸收哪怕是仿制来解决。但我国的铁道部似乎专心迷恋于进口。

[Vagabond]

Maybe, they got kickback. If it is true, capital punishment shoud be applied.

[big-dog]

CRH2C刷新中国铁路最高速372.8KM/H


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在22日结束的高速试验中，CRH2C刷新了中国铁路的最高速度，达到了372.8KM/H。23日的再次试验不知能否继续有所突破。

同时在CRH2结束试验后，CRH3披挂上阵。23日将达到330KM/H。根据最新的计算,其最高试验速度有望达到390KM/H。

[baersworth]

China bought the technology from Germany, France, Japan, Canada, purhaps Italty. The deal was for unrestricted technology tranfer, it will give China the base for further development of its own fast train. Money rocks, if China does not have enough money to pay those foreign companies, they will not agree to sell the technology with no restriction on the use of it. Now China can combine all the advance technology on this planet and to develope its own.

[baersworth]

上面那会个老人家都和时代脱节. 铁路运力跟不上影响全国经济发展, 难道还要慢慢等自主研发 ? 等个来花都谢了. 学科学理论是学, 学实用技术也是学. 但想学技术就得花钱, 人家可不让你白学. 买西方高铁技术就象战机买回 Su-27, 使中国自主技术有个质的飞跃.

[big-dog]

Some rail pic taken in Beijing (beijingupdates.com)

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[Andrew]

Awesome pics!

[The Cebuano Exultor]

^^ Oh man! :eek:

Those are fantastic pictures, big-dog. With those new rolling-stocks for CRH, Beijing looks more and more like a Japanese city. :banana:

[The Cebuano Exultor]

I can't help but notice that the China Railway High-Speed (CRH) brand sounds kinda awkward.

I mean, couldn't they have named it "China Express Rail" or "China High-Speed Railways"?! These sound much better, IMO.

[Andrew]

I can't help but notice that the China Railway High-Speed (CRH) brand sounds kinda awkward.

I mean, couldn't they have named it "China Express Rail" or "China High-Speed Railways"?! These sound much better, IMO.
I agree, it's actually not very good grammar, quite awkward sounding. Why do they even need an English name? Oh well, it doesn't really matter though.

[zergcerebrates]

I agree, it's actually not very good grammar, quite awkward sounding. Why do they even need an English name? Oh well, it doesn't really matter though.

Well English has become the international language so yah. . . . :)

[big-dog]

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德國柏林（2007/10/31）龐巴迪運輸集團稱今日與中國合資公司BSP已經獲得中國鐵道部40列、16輛編成的高速動車組（合計640個車廂）訂單.訂單大約為10億歐元（15億美元），其中龐巴迪所佔大約4.13億歐元（5.96億美元）。BSP是龐巴迪運輸集團、加拿大鮑爾集體、中國南車四方集團共同設立的合資公司。

鐵道部代表張曙光、龐巴迪運輸集團CEO Laurent Beaudoin出席了今天的訂單簽署儀式。這是中國鐵路歷史上一次性簽署的數額最大的鐵路客車單筆訂單。

新型電動車組最高時速可達250km/h.其中20列將被設計為夜間服務類型並且配備了臥鋪。這批列車將成為世界上首次達到250km/h運行速度的臥鋪動車組,並且開發將利用龐巴迪ZEFIRO家族高速列車和超高速列車產品的核心元素.新的16輛編成列車（總長430米）體現出巧妙的混合了新的模組化概念和經過實證的技術于一體的應用。當一個地方長距離旅行變得頻繁時，高速臥鋪車將為夜間旅行的乘客提供一個更高級別的舒適性、便利性、旅時高效性。

另外20列電動車組將從已成功交付給鐵道部的8輛編組CRH1動車組中升級為16輛編組的版本。

龐巴迪的ZEFIRO列車家族特別滿足了更高靈活性的下一代列車的需求。ZEFIRO列車設計引入了新的方法以改善運用效率、效能、互通性和跨國旅行。
新型高速動車組將在中國青島的BSP產品工廠製造，列車所使用的龐巴迪MITRAC牽引系統將由龐巴迪CPC牽引系統公司（龐巴迪在常州的合資公司）和龐巴迪在歐洲的工廠生產。MITRAC牽引系統已被世界範圍內超過23000輛的車輛所使用。
新車首列交付時間計畫在2009年2月，末列交付時間計畫在2010年8月。

這將為CRH之全新車種 ,ZEFIRO有別於過往CRH為一全新車種(沒有原型車).仍是官方首次性公佈16卡及卧鋪,及將CRH1升級為16輛編組的版本消息.
早於一年前已有了其官方已介紹ZEFIRO 的消息,在其技術資料中特別看到了一些這車適合給中國,甚至香港的伏筆
如:
-歐洲較為少見的3+2座位設計
-適合中國的信號系统
-適合中國,香港的車體界限

[big-dog]

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[big-dog]

Beijing-Tianjin 300km/h express rail test run video. Impressive 震撼！

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/L9FgKAl5RZA/

plus, one CRH and CBD view from beijingupdates.com
http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2008-5/20085301827372978.jpg

[BarbaricManchurian]

Now that's speed, on the video. Too bad I'll still take the bus (2.5 hours) to Tianjin from Beijing airport, there's no subway connection from the airport to Beijing East station until 2010, plus I can't drag all my luggage through the subway.

[zergcerebrates]

I wish there was more to that video

[snow is red]

Wuhan-Guangzhou express rail

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080619/0004230fa7cc09c400fe04.jpgWorkers prepare to install the last section of the Ganhe Super Bridge along the Wuhan-Guangzhou express rail in Xianning, Hubei province on June 18, 2008. The 3.42 km-long Ganhe Super Bridge is the most difficult part of the railway construction project. With an investment of 108 billion yuan ($15.69 billion), the 968-km Wuhan-Guangzhou railway, which is expected to be completed in 2010, can allow trains to run at speed of 350 km per hour. The train travel time between the two cities will be cut to only 4 hours from more than 11 hours currently. [Xinhua]


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The last 900-ton section is installed to connect the Ganhe Super Bridge along the Wuhan-Guangzhou express rail in Xianning, Hubei province on June 18, 2008. The 3.42 km-long Ganhe Super Bridge is the most difficult part of the railway construction project. With an investment of 108 billion yuan ($15.69 billion), the 968-km Wuhan-Guangzhou railway, which is expected to be completed in 2010, can allow trains to run at speed of 350 km per hour. The train travel time between the two cities will be cut to only 4 hours from more than 11 hours currently. [Xinhua]


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Workers are busy planting trees and grass along the Wuhan-Guangzhou express rail in Xianning, Hubei province on June 18, 2008. With an investment of 108 billion yuan ($15.69 billion), the 968-km Wuhan-Guangzhou railway, which is expected to be completed in 2010, can allow trains to run at speed of 350 km per hour. The train travel time between the two cities will be cut to only 4 hours from more than 11 hours currently. [Xinhua]

[snow is red]

Chinese insurers to invest $2.35 bln in Beijing-Shanghai express railway


www.chinaview.cn 2008-06-21 14:31:36

BEIJING, June 21 (Xinhua) -- Four of China's insurance companies have been given green light by the country's insurance regulator to invest 16 billion yuan (2.35 bln U.S. dollars) in the Beijing-Shanghai express railway.

Sources from the China Insurance Regulatory Commission (CIRC) said that four asset management companies under the Ping'an Insurance, Pacific Insurance, Taikang Life and Taiping Life will jointly set up a Beijing-Shanghai express railway equity investment project to raise the planned amount of capital.

In addition to the four insurers, the China Reinsurance (Group) Company, Generali China Life Insurance Company and PICC will also act as partakers and beneficiaries of the project, with the China Construction Bank as the trustee and the China Development Bank as an independent supervisor.

The CIRC demanded all parties involved in the project to strictly abide by related laws and regulations and prevent credit, operation, moral and legal risks. It also requested the project to submit timely report on its operation or events of significance.

On Dec. 27, 2007, the Beijing-Shanghai Express Railway Co. Ltd was unveiled in Beijing for the construction of the 1,318-km high-speed railway between China's top two cities.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-06/21/content_8412469.htm

[snow is red]

New Beijing-Tianjing train sets record

http://www.cctv.com/program/bizchina/20080627/104624.shtml
WATCH VIDEO in the link
06-27-2008 14:42

A new Beijing-Tianjin suburban railway line was put through its paces on Tuesday. A China-made high-speed train was tested on the new rail line, hitting a record speed of 394.5 kilometers an hour.

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A CRH3 train in Beijing Railway Station South

It took only five minutes for the train to go from zero to 300 kilometers an hour. The express hit a maximum speed of 394.5 kilometers per hour during the test, setting a world speed record for railway transport.

Beijing and Tianjin are 120 kilometers apart, and the train finished the journey in only 25 minutes and 20 seconds.

The train runs smoothly, so that passengers don't need to wear safety belts.

China developed the technology for high-speed trains with speeds of 200 kilometers an hour in 2004. Then the country developed its own trains with speeds of 300 kilometers and 350 kilometers per hour, becoming one of the few countries to have mastered the technology.

The Beijing-Tianjin inter-city express line is scheduled to open on August 1st, ahead of the Beijing Olympic Games.

Video : http://www.cctv.com/video/bizchina/2008/06/bizchina_300_20080627_6.shtml

[snow is red]

China sets up coordination group for high-speed train innovation


www.chinaview.cn 2008-07-03

　BEIJING, July 3 (Xinhua) -- China has set up an inter-agency coordination group to enhance its ability to develop an advanced and safe high-speed rail system.

The Ministry of Science and Technology (MOST) website, www.most.gov.cn, on Thursday released the grouping of MOST and the Ministry of Railways (MOR) to coordinate planning, research and development, industrial manufacturing and equipment upgrades in the country's high-speed rail sector.

MOST Minister Wan Gang, a former Audi chief technologist for hybrid vehicles, and MOR Minister Liu Zhijun co-chair the group.

MOR has tested the country's first high-speed railway connecting Beijing and Tianjin since the end of May, with an average speed of 300 km per hour. Last week, President Hu Jintao test rode the train, which covered 120 km within 30 minutes.

MOR promised to make sure safety and timeliness in operating the service between the capital and Tianjin, a co-host city for the upcoming Beijing Olympics in August.

On Tuesday, the country started to build its second inter-city high-speed rail line linking Nanjing and Shanghai, one of the most important business hubs in the Asia Pacific region. The 300-km line was estimated to cost 39.45 billion yuan (5.7 billion U.S. dollars) and would be completed in four years.

The high-ranking coordination group was established largely with an eye on clearing technological obstacles to build a high-speed trunk line between Beijing and Shanghai.

All key decision makers from the two ministries have joined the group, which also comprises 18 leading railway technologists. Thirteen academics from both the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS)and the Chinese Academy of Engineering (CAE) were invited to give advice to the decision makers on key issues.

The two ministries contracted a few research institutes and state-owned companies to develop the new-generation train, which boasts an average speed of 350 km per hour. The homegrown technologies, not only for train coaches but also for reliable railway systems, were expected to compete with the world's most cutting-edge know-how.

China previously contacted with German, French and Japanese high-speed train vendors to explore possibilities to introduce foreign-developed high-speed railway systems in the country. However, it was now resolute to build the network with its own proprietary technologies.

As an alternative, China had even built the world's first commercial maglev line, based on Siemens technology linking Pudongto the Shanghai Airport.

Among the 18,000 km of newly-built passenger railroads planned toward 2020, most were high-speed lines. The first commercial operation of the China High-speed Railway (CHR) would start before the opening of the Olympics on Aug. 8.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-07/03/content_8482722.htm

[big-dog]

2000km express rail to be built to connect all pearl river delta counties 珠三角拟修建2000公里城铁连接所有县以上城市

http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2008-07-07/004814123931s.shtml

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[henrypan123]

China need more highspeed railways!

[big-dog]

Beijing-Shijiazhuang railway under construction

www.chinaview.cn 2008-10-07 13:56:28

BEIJING, Oct. 7 (Xinhua) -- Construction began on a high-speed passenger rail line between Beijing and Shijiazhuang, capital of north China's Hebei Province Tuesday, the Ministry of Railway (MOR) said.

The new 281 kilometer line is part of another route which connects Beijing, Guangzhou and Hong Kong in south China. It totals more than 2,300 km long.

With an estimated cost of 43.87 billion yuan (6.4 billion U.S. dollars), the Beijing-Shijiazhuang line is expected to be complete and in operation in four years. It is jointly funded by the MOR, Beijing and Hebei governments.

The designed speed of the railway is 350 km per hour. Initially, however, trains will only travel 300 km per hour.

Once operating, this new line should cut the journey from Beijing to Shijiazhuang from 119 minutes to less than 60 minutes, the ministry said.

The new line will have six stations.

Seventy-seven percent of it, or about 218.47 km, will be built on an elevated alignment to save land.

In the meantime, Chinese workers will also be building a 28.7-km-long railway linking Shijiazhuang to Taiyuan, capital of Shanxi Province.

The MOR said it hopes to build 9,800 km of passenger-dedicated railway over its Five-year Plan (2006-2010).
(xinhuanet.com)

[big-dog]

China starts building railway linking southwestern inland to southern port city

GUILIN, Guangxi, Oct. 13 (Xinhua) -- China on Monday began construction on a major regional railway to connect the less-developed southwestern inland Guizhou Province with the southern Guangdong Province, one of the country's economic powerhouses.

The 857-km line starts from Guizhou's provincial capital, Guiyang, running southwards through Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region and ending in the port city Guangzhou, Guangdong's capital.

The new line is designed to be a double-track electrified railway and will allow trains to travel at 200 km an hour. With an estimated cost of 85.8 billion (12.6 billion U.S. dollars), the Guiyang-Guangzhou line is expected to be complete and operational in six years.

Vice Premier Zhang Dejiang who attended the ground-breaking ceremony, said the new line, upon completion, would provide a fast rail route with large transport capacity from Guiyang to Guangzhou. It would improve the rail networks in southwestern and southern China by cutting the journey time between the southwest and the Pearl Delta region.

This railway was also expected to help people living along the line shake off poverty and achieve sound and fast economic development, he said.

Zhang demanded workers and engineers protect the environment and respect local customs during construction since the line runs through areas that are home to many people of ethnic minorities and famous for beautiful landscape.
(http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-10/13/content_10188861.htm)

[big-dog]

Shijiazhuang-Wuhan express rail starts construction

so Beijing-Shijiazhuang, Shijiazhuang-Wuhan and Wuhan-Guangzhou express rail are all under construction. Wait for 4-6 years, the Beijing-Guangzhou high speed rail will be a reality.

(http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2008-10-15/140016459100.shtml)

[snow is red]

Shijiazhuang-Wuhan express rail starts construction

so Beijing-Shijiazhuang, Shijiazhuang-Wuhan and Wuhan-Guangzhou express rail are all under construction. Wait for 4-6 years, the Beijing-Guangzhou high speed rail will be a reality.

(http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2008-10-15/140016459100.shtml)

Construction starts on portion of Beijing-Hong Kong rail line

2008-10-15


BEIJING, Oct. 15 (Xinhua) -- Construction begins Wednesday on a high-speed passenger rail line linking Shijiazhuang, capital of north China's Hebei Province, and the Yangtze River port city Wuhan, the Ministry of Railways (MOR) said.

The 840.7-km long line is one part of a new 2,300-km route that connects Beijing with Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Hong Kong in south China.

The Shijiazhuan-Wuhan section is expected to open in four and ahalf years.

An estimated investment of 116.76 billion yuan (17.2 billion U.S. dollars)is needed for the project which will be jointly funded by the MOR and the governments of the Hebei, Henan and Hubei provinces.

The rail line is designed to run up to 350 km per hour. It will be able to transport 80 million passengers each year in one direction.

The new line section will have 14 stations, the MOR said.

Once complete, the entire Beijing-Guangzhou-Hongkong line will be almost parallel to the existing Beijing-Guangzhou line.

Construction on another section of railway, from Beijing to Shijiazhuang, kicked off a week ago. It should also be complete in four years, the MOR said.

Construction on the Wuhan to Guangzhou section started in June 2005. It is scheduled to begin operating in 2010.

The MOR wants to build 9,800 km of passenger rail lines in China as part of its five-year(2006-2010) plan.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-10/15/content_10199443.htm

[slashcruise]

At this moment of time chinese are unbeatable in infrastructure projects......It it something that not only other developing economies but developed economies can also learn from......

[nouveau.ukiyo]

At this moment of time chinese are unbeatable in infrastructure projects......It it something that not only other developing economies but developed economies can also learn from......

Yes, I wish India would learn from this.

[big-dog]

great news.

Gov't sets $300b for railway construction

(China Daily)
Updated: 2008-10-25 10:46

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The State Council has approved 2 trillion yuan ($292 billion) for the construction of a series of railway projects, to help boost economic growth amid the worldwide financial crisis.

Increasing investment in fixed assets has remained a catalyst of China's economic development. By 2010, the total length of China's railway will reach 90,000 km, according to the Ministry of Railways.

A number of major railway projects will be started soon, www.ce.cn - the country's leading economic news portal - quoted Wang Yongping, spokesman for the Ministry of Railways, as saying on Friday.

About 1.2 trillion yuan has already been allocated, he said.

Zheng Xinli, a senior government policy advisor, said: "In 1997, we dealt with the Asian financial crisis by stimulating domestic economic growth by investing in the construction of highways. This time the money will go on improving the rail network."

The National Development and Reform Commission is developing plans to improve the country's railway systems, he said.

[Whiteeclipse]

Good to hear about the $292 billion for railway construction in China.

China is catching up
1. European Union 236,436 km year-2007
2. United States 226,612 km year-2005
3. Russia 87,157km year-2006
4. China 75,438km year-2005

[big-dog]

Wuhan-guangzhou HSR construction 10-20

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[big-dog]

A couple of CRH5 pics from ditiezu.com. Beijing-Changchun

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[lootgoal]

I can't help but notice that the China Railway High-Speed (CRH) brand sounds kinda awkward.

I mean, couldn't they have named it "China Express Rail" or "China High-Speed Railways"?! These sound much better, IMO.

I like this name very much, the abbreviation "CRH" sounds better than "CER" or "CHR" as you suggested, and the original form with the adjective post-positioned is pretty cool, similar to usages like "last man standing", it emphasizes the word "high-speed".

[Andrew]

True, but it's a classic example of 'Chinglish', and is probably technically wrong.

[big-dog]

China rail network planning (2008 adjusted version)

The blue lines are the new added railways. The bold lines (red bold and blue bold) are high speed rails.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/208/03a5854auw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
(bbs.home.new.sn)

[big-dog]

China to operate 16,000-km passenger-dedicated lines by 2020


www.chinaview.cn 2008-11-27

BEIJING, Nov. 27 (Xinhua) -- The Chinese Ministry of Railways (MOR) on Thursday increased the mileage of passenger-dedicated lines planned to be in service by 2020 to 16,000 km in a revised Medium- and Long-term Railway Network Plan.

According to the revised plan, announced officially on Thursday, China plans to have more than 120,000 km of rail lines by 2020, about 60 percent of which are to be electrified.

This is an increase on a 2004 plan for about 100,000 km of railways and 12,000 km passenger-dedicated lines by 2020. The old plan had only 50 percent of the country's railways electrified.

At a press conference held to announce the plan, MOR vice minister Lu Dongfu said the plan was approved by the State Council, or the Cabinet, on Oct. 31.

"The 16,000-km express passenger rail network (capable of speeds of more than 200 km/hour) is designed to link provincial cities with a population of more than 500,000. The network will significantly cut journey times," Lu said.

"Construction of all railway projects in the revised Medium- and Long-term Railway Network Plan will need a total investment of some 5 trillion yuan (732 billion U.S. dollars)," Lu said.

This revised Medium- and Long-term Railway Network Plan covers the years 2004-2020, and so includes money already spent and lines already built.

In addition some of the funding for the Medium- and Long-term Railway Network Plan money will come from the 4 trillion yuan economic stimulus package announced earlier this month (which covers the period 2009-2010), but the vice minister did not elaborate on which projects they were or how much money was involved.

New lines revealed in the plan, and not part of the economic stimulus package, include a line in Liaoning Province linking Shenyang to Dandong, and a line in Henan Province linking Zhengzhou (the provincial capital) and Luoyang.

"The revised plan is set to modernize the network and help the economy achieve sound and rapid development," said Lu.

"Railway has been the weakest chain in the country's infrastructure with insufficient capacity. Railway transportation has long lagged behind the economic development," Lu said.

China's laggard railway system has been having a hard time keeping up with the huge mobility needs and booming economy, Yang said. With many trains running near or above capacity, the country's rail network is strained, but the demands on it are increasing.

By the end of this year, Lu said China would have over 79,000-km rail lines in operation, about 6,000 km more than that at the end of 2003.

China currently only has one high-speed rail line in operation - the Beijing-Tianjin link, which is 120 km in length.

(Chinaview.cn)

[snow is red]

Shanghai-Beijing high-speed trains on track for next month

2008-11-24


A BEIJING-Shanghai high-speed night train is expected to debut next month, reducing travel time by more than 2 hours, a local newspaper reported today.

The Youth Daily report said railway authorities haven’t decided ticket prices or departure times yet for the approximate 9h15m trip. However, tickets are likely to be more than 500 yuan (US$73) considering the price of existing trains.

The highest current price for sleeper tickets between the two cities is 499 yuan.

One train will likely depart about 9:45pm in each city and arrive at their destinations about 7am the next day, according to the report. The shortest travel time for other trains between the two cities is 11.5 hours.

The trains are likely to be attractive to business passengers as they are comfortable and cheaper than flights, the report said.

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2008/200811/20081124/article_381851.htm

[snow is red]

Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railroad nears completion

2008-12-07


BEIJING -- The Ministry of Railways (MOR) said here on Sunday that the world's longest high-speed rail line, connecting the capital and Shanghai, is nearing completion.

MOR spokesman Wang Yongping said 91 percent of the track length, or 1,203 km, has been completed. Remaining major tasks include bridges over the Huaihe and Yangtze rivers and the main terminal in Shanghai, he said. More than 110,000 workers are busy with the remainder of the project.
Trains will take less than five hours to make the run, which is now at least 11 hours.

The MOR has said it plans to have 120,000 km of rail lines in service by 2020, of which 16,000 km would be dedicated to only passenger services.

By the end of this year, China will have more than 79,000 km of rail lines. To meet the 2020 target will require about 5 trillion yuan (US$732 billion), the MOR said.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-12/07/content_7279166.htm

[BarbaricManchurian]

^^Is this news really true? If so, this is one of the fastest constructions ever. 1,203km in a few months, seriously wow.

[lg22]

near completion?trains put on track soon? u must be joking, this project only started april in this year, shortly 5 months, 90% of this project is done? plz double check the credit of your news, you may either quote the wrong news or you misunderstand what they said. this is not possible

[Whiteeclipse]

Big news, I hope it's true. Here is another source.

High-speed rail line to Beijing is 91% completed
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=383660&type=National

[Andrew]

They're not true, here's another article that clears up the confusion:

Beijing-Shanghai HSR: 91% Done (Well, Almost, That Is)

91% of the Beijing-Shanghai High-Speed Railway done! (If you take just the cursory-est glances at the headlines, you sure feel that way.) Wow-ee, now that was fast.

We certainly hope it was the case. Actually, word's out that works have just begun at the 91% stretch. That means that work is but merely beginning. It'll take quite a while for the whole thing to be built -- bridges, tracks, the whole thingamajig.

We hope works begin on the remaining 9% real soon. By the way, when the Beijing-Shanghai HSR is finally done in 2012-2013-ish, rail travel between the Jing and Shanghai will be cut down to 5 hours or less at speeds exceeding 350 km/h. The Beijing-Shanghai HSR will join its Beijing-Tianjin brethren at the Beijing South Railway Station.

What a difference it'll make once you hop off Subway Line 4 and jump on the HSR...

http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijing/articles/blogs-beijing/beijingologist/beijing-shanghai-hsr-91-done-well-almost-that-is/

[big-dog]

Beijing-Hangzhou Sleeper HSR debuts on Dec 21 '08

Duration: 11 hours 22 minutes
Max speed: 250km/h
Sleeper one-way price: 730 - 840 Yuan

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http://img1.cache.netease.com/cnews/2008/12/17/2008121713364872497.jpg

(from 东方网)

[big-dog]

HSR from Beijing to Shanghai debuts

(this is not the U/C 350km/h Beijing-Shanghai inter-city line)

http://news.xinhuanet.com/travel/2008-12/22/xin_47212052207156091370611.jpg

http://news.xinhuanet.com/travel/2008-12/22/xin_47212052207158751732013.jpg

http://news.xinhuanet.com/travel/2008-12/22/xin_4721205220715328274429.jpg

http://news.xinhuanet.com/travel/2008-12/22/xin_48212052207150153082014.jpg

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http://news.xinhuanet.com/travel/2008-12/22/xin_48212052207152812756816.jpg

http://news.xinhuanet.com/travel/2008-12/22/xinsrc_3621205220907062212824.jpg
(xinhuanet.com)

[snow is red]

^^ Is the one way ticket of the same price as the Beijing-Hangzhou one ?

[BarbaricManchurian]

^^doubt it, it's like 10x the distance, so at least 5x the cost :).

[lg22]

good debut!! however, i'v heard the train fares for this one is about like $150 USD per person per trip. that is way too expensive for an average Chinese, considering the fact that the urban Chinese average income is only 1200 USD a year. not to mention for the vast number of rural Chinese migrant workers who earn only 500 USD a year, they are the ones who often travel on the trains from city to home villages, but can they afford this kind of transportation?

[ray911]

urban 1200 USD a year ??migrant workers 500 USD a year??

maybe there is something wrong~~ coz even in my county an ordinary worker can earn about 2000 usd a year (1000 RMB per month)

in shandong province the minimum wage is 1300 usd a year (760 RMB a month)

[snow is red]

By the end of 2007, the per capita GDP had risen to 18,700 yuan from 379 yuan in 1978, increasing by nearly 50-fold. The disposable income of urban residents had risen to 13,786 yuan ($2000) from 343 yuan and that of rural residents had risen to 4,140 yuan ( $605) from 134 yuan, increasing about 40-fold and 31-fold, respectively.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-12/10/content_7289296.htm

Sorry this is a bit off-topic

[YelloPerilo]

good debut!! however, i'v heard the train fares for this one is about like $150 USD per person per trip. that is way too expensive for an average Chinese, considering the fact that the urban Chinese average income is only 1200 USD a year. not to mention for the vast number of rural Chinese migrant workers who earn only 500 USD a year, they are the ones who often travel on the trains from city to home villages, but can they afford this kind of transportation?

The cleaning lady I have in Shanghai is from Anhui and she earns about 150 Euro per month.

You are pulling the numbers out of your arse.

[snow is red]

^^ I think he was using outdated figure, those figures would have been applicable in 2004 or 2005

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2006/01/24/afx2474148.html

China's urban disposable income per capita rose 9.6 pct to 10,493 yuan in 2005

Yuan exchange as of December 2005
$1 = 8.08 Yuan

[YelloPerilo]

^^ I think he was using outdated figure, those figures would have been applicable in 2004 or 2005

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2006/01/24/afx2474148.html



Yuan exchange as of December 2005
$1 = 8.08 Yuan

Believe me, he is not using outdated figures! ;)

[Curry4Ever]

The pictures of the high speed train are absolutely fantastic!!!! This is the first time I'm seeing a high speed train having sleeping cars. The design is beautiful.

[uwhuskies]

Believe me, he is not using outdated figures! ;)

Maybe both posters had a point--depending on how you do the math. China has a huge rural population that could easily bring down the average per capita income level, but China also has a very large urban population whose average per income that is quite capable of paying.

The HSR is NOT intended for a rural farmer living on $1 per day or less, but rather urban commuters and professionals that would consider the HSR an acceptable alternative to airline travel.

Interesting Article http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/blog/eyeonasia/archives/2008/07/china_now_has_m.html

Cited from article: "...According to the 2008 Merrill Lynch and Capgemini World Wealth Report China now boasts more millionaires than France. At the end of last year China weighed in with a total of 414,900 people worth more than one million dollars excluding their principal residence, while France had only 394,000 of this group. China is now only behind the U.S., Japan, Germany and Britain in terms of High Net Worth Individuals, or HNWIs as the study calls them.

The way things are going, China could easily bump the U.K. from the number four slot soon. Last year the number of millionaires grew by an eye popping 20.3%, while Britain, with 495,000 HNWIs, saw their numbers grow by only 2.1%..."

Keeping in mind this article was discussing millionaires. I daresay it won't take a millionaire to afford $150.

[lg22]

having a stylish train networks is a good thing,for example this one! But, if this is going to become a luxury show-off and cannot benefit the majority of citizens(the rural Chinese who account for 80% of the entire Chinese population), then it is just meaningless thing! by seeing the research, most of rural migrants workers still have to travel on those old-fashion and poor-sanitation trains, not mention many of them dont even get seats but have to cramed in the toliet.

so the point is China needs to have more of this types of trains that are affordable not just for millionaries and businesemen, but the "ordinary Chinese citizens".

[BarbaricManchurian]

^^incorrect. Even though the cheap trains may be slow, they are quite sanitary and clean. Everyone gets a seat, though of course the cheaper the more uncomfortable it is. I've never seen a dirty passenger train in China, definitely not as bad as the trains I went on in Italy! Plus the high speed trains aren't that expensive, only 50RMB ($7.50) for Beijing-Tianjin. They are almost always full, so they have the max benefit they can provide. You have no idea about what you are talking about, your description wouldn't even be accurate 25 years ago! Lol and rural Chinese is around 55% now, it was never 80%.

Where do you get this completely wrong information? You have a lot to learn, don't be so ignorant and easily decieved!

[snow is red]

having a stylish train networks is a good thing,for example this one! But, if this is going to become a luxury show-off and cannot benefit the majority of citizens(the rural Chinese who account for 80% of the entire Chinese population), then it is just meaningless thing! by seeing the research, most of rural migrants workers still have to travel on those old-fashion and poor-sanitation trains, not mention many of them dont even get seats but have to cramed in the toliet.

so the point is China needs to have more of this types of trains that are affordable not just for millionaries and businesemen, but the "ordinary Chinese citizens".

The more you talk, the more flaws and mistakes I see in your arguments. :ohno:

If I was you, I would google those information first before start typing in this forum. Otherwise I ask questions, observe, listen and learn.

Giving wrong information too much can cause you to lose your credibility

:Sigh: ..... OK I am doing for you a favour again here

China's rural population stood at 737 million at the end of 2006

The rural population in China was recorded at 64 percent of thetotal 1.3 billion in 2001 and 74 percent in 1990

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-16188939.html



If you don't know how to convert 737 million out of 1.3 billion into percentage then just give it a shout.

[snow is red]

China completes 1st high-speed railway in central region

2008-12-30

WUHAN - Construction of the Hefei-Wuhan Railway, the first high-speed line in central China, has been completed after three years, the government of Wuhan City said on Tuesday.

The 350-km line cost 16.8 billion yuan (US$2.46 billion). It will reduce travel time from eight and a half hours to two hours. Trains will run at 200 km per hour, the Wuhan government said.

The line is the middle part of China's first east-west high-speed rail link, the Shanghai-Wuhan-Chengdu Railway.

The Ministry of Railways plans to have 120,000 km of lines in service by 2020, of which 16,000 km would be exclusively for passenger services. At present, China has more than 79,000 km of rail lines. To meet the 2020 target will cost about 5 trillion yuan, the ministry said.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-12/30/content_7354906.htm

[YelloPerilo]

Guys, lg is a stupid troll. Don't feed him/her.

[Andrew]

^^incorrect. Even though the cheap trains may be slow, they are quite sanitary and clean.
I agree with this, I was actually quite impressed with China's trains. They're reasonably clean and comfortable, and even the old ones are not all that slow.

Everyone gets a seat...
That, however, is definately not always true. I spent ten hours in hard seat class on a trip from Wuhan, and while I got a seat, the carriage was full of people standing for the whole of those ten hours.

[BarbaricManchurian]

^^ok, it's just that I myself haven't seen any people standing for a train ride, but I have only taken trains in northern China. I actually prefer buses for travel if the train isn't much faster, I like seeing the road, the front view, and the scenery, since roads can go in more harsh terrain.

[Andrew]

I actually prefer buses for travel if the train isn't much faster, I like seeing the road, the front view, and the scenery, since roads can go in more harsh terrain.

I'd take a train over a bus any day, unless they're on straight highways, long distance bus journeys make me travel sick!

[big-dog]

Zhejiang to develop longest rail network

By Xin Zhiming (China Daily)
Updated: 2009-01-17

The country's largest high-speed rail network will be built in Zhejiang by 2012, as part of the efforts to invigorate the local economy, the province's top official said on Friday.

In his government work report to the provincial people's congress, Lu Zushan, governor of Zhejiang, said: "We want to complete the construction of this modern rail network within four years."

Li Zhihai, head of the provincial development and reform commission, told China Daily that the local government will spend 130 billion yuan ($19 billion) to develop the 1,200 km network, which, on completion, will be the longest in the country and account for almost 10 percent of China's total railways.

Trains will run at upward of 200 km per hour on the new lines, he said.

The massive investment in the transport system will help promote economic development not only in Zhejiang but the whole of the Yangtze River Delta region, Li said.

The area, which is a key center for exports, has been hard hit by the global economic slowdown.

For commuters, the new high-speed rail network will mean shorter journey times between key provincial cities like Hangzhou to other major cities in the delta, such as Nanjing in Jiangsu province and Ningbo in Zhejiang province, and Shanghai.

Some intercity journey times will be cut from two hours to less than one, Li said.

As well as the new rail network, Zhejiang will spend 60 billion yuan on the expansion of its highway system. Both projects are part of an 881 billion yuan investment package designed to ensure growth this year and next, Li said.

Zhejiang's economy grew by about 10 percent last year, down from an average of more than 14 percent between 2002 and 2007, Lu said.

Exports account for 54 percent of the province's GDP, but grew 20.3 percent over the whole of last year, despite achieving 27 percent growth in the first six months, he said.

The government has set a target of 9 percent GDP growth for this year, Lu said in his report.

Ge Licheng, deputy head of the Zhejiang Academy of Social Sciences, forecast the provincial economy will grow by between 9 and 10 percent this year, but exports will achieve only 10 percent growth.

"Growth momentum hinges on whether or not the government's stimulus measures attract private sector investment," he told China Daily.

Across the country, 2 trillion yuan worth of railway construction projects are currently under way, including 80 that were launched last year, according to figures from the Ministry of Railways.

Hao Zhou and Zhang Jianming contributed to the story

[big-dog]

Work starts on Beijing-Shenyang high speed railway

By Tom Qian | 2009-2-5 | ONLINE EDITION

CONSTRUCTION of a high-speed rail line between Beijing and Shenyang in Liaoning Province, worth 70 billion yuan (US$10.22 billion), will start in June.

When it is completed, expected to be 2012, passengers will be able to travel the 687 kilometers in two hours and 18 minutes, the Huashang Morning Post reported today.

The 350 km/h trains will take one and a half hours less than the current fast train.

Meanwhile, the high-speed rail line between Shanghai and Hangzhou has been approved by central government and construction will start in about a month.

And 1,200 kilometers, more than 90 per cent, of what will be the world's longest high-speed rail line, connecting Shanghai and Beijing, has been completed. More than 110,000 people are working on the project.

When the railway is completed, trains will reach Beijing in five hours instead of the current 11.

The ministry has said it plans to have 120,000km of rail lines in service by 2020, of which 16,000km would be dedicated passenger lines.

By the end of this year, China will have more than 79,000km of rail lines. To meet the 2020 target will require investment of about 5 trillion yuan (US$727 billion), the ministry said.

http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2009-02-05/083915115227s.shtml

[pearl_river]

The map seems to be based off of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_China

There seems to be many mistakes from the Wikipedia article. Are they really going to build a 350km/h train to Lanzhou? Why not spend that money for Nanjing to Wuhan? Why does no seem to care about Inner Mongolia?



http://thetransportpolitic.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/china-hsr.jpg

[foxmulder_ms]

Some lines might be missing but I believe it is roughly correct.

[pearl_river]

Any info on when the Beijing-Shanghai bullet train will be completed?

[big-dog]

By latest Chinese news, it'll open for operation in 2013.

[big-dog]

The map seems to be based off of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_China

There seems to be many mistakes from the Wikipedia article. Are they really going to build a 350km/h train to Lanzhou? Why not spend that money for Nanjing to Wuhan? Why does no seem to care about Inner Mongolia?



I think more 200~250kph CRH are already in service, i.e. Shenyang-Dalian, Nanjing-Shanghai etc.

[big-dog]

Construction starts on Shanghai-Hangzhou high-speed rail line

www.chinaview.cn 2009-02-26


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-02/26/xin_01202062619478122254258.jpg
Guests attend the groundbreaking ceremony of Shanghai-Hangzhou high-speed rail line in Shanghai, east China, Feb. 26, 2009. Groundwork started Thursday on a high-speed passenger rail line that will link Shanghai with Hangzhou in east China with trains that can run up to 350 km per hour. (Xinhua/Chen Fei)

HANGZHOU, Feb. 26 (Xinhua) -- Groundwork started Thursday on a high-speed passenger rail line that will link Shanghai with Hangzhou in east China with trains that can run up to 350 km per hour.

When service starts in 2011, travel time from Zhejiang's capital of Hangzhou to Shanghai will fall to 38 minutes from more than one hour at present, Yu Jian'er, general manager of the Zhejiang Provincial Railway Investment Group Co. Ltd., said Thursday.

That group is building the 159-km line, which will have nine stations. Trains would run at three-minute intervals at rush hour, said Yu.

The Ministry of Railways, the governments of Shanghai and Zhejiang and Baosteel Group will finance the project, which will cost 29.68 billion yuan (about 4.37 billion U.S. dollars).

Yu said that the line, considered a "golden route" for its potential profits, might be listed on the stock market if the Ministry of Railways gave its approval.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-02/26/xin_01202062619479681371359.jpg
Workers attend the groundbreaking ceremony of Shanghai-Hangzhou high-speed rail line in Shanghai, east China, Feb. 26, 2009. Groundwork started Thursday on a high-speed passenger rail line that will link Shanghai with Hangzhou in east China with trains that can run up to 350 km per hour. (Xinhua/Chen Fei)

Rail capacity in the Yangtze River Delta region has reached saturation point, said Yu. He said that during peak travel seasons, cargo transport was often suspended to make way for passenger trains.

Two other rail lines in the Yangtze "economic circle", which includes Shanghai, Nanjing and Hangzhou, are also scheduled for completion by 2011. Once all three are finished, passengers will be able to travel between any two of these major cities within an hour, much faster than at present.

For example, the line from Hangzhou to Nanjing, capital of neighboring Jiangsu Province, will provide a 50-minute trip. At present, passengers must go by way of Shanghai, which takes as long as eight hours.




http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/03D38EB1.002C

沪杭客专基本情况见下表——
总投资 296.8亿元
全长 159公里
时速 350公里/小时
站点 虹桥→松江南站→金山北站→嘉善南站→嘉兴南站→桐乡→
海宁西站→余杭南站→杭州东站
发车频率 初期每天210对列车，远期每天235对
运输能力 8000万人/年

[big-dog]

Maglev line for World Expo still on track

SHANGHAI BUND
By CHOW HOW BAN

To allay residents’ concern over noise pollution and electromagnetic radiation, parts of the ultra-high speed line may be moved underground.

SHANGHAI authorities have not given up hope on a maglev line to link two of the city’s airports in time for the World Expo to be held from May to October next year.

Indications are that the city planners will go ahead with plans to connect Pudong International and Hongqiao International airports with an ultra-high speed train.

On Jan 29, German company ThyssenKrupp AG signed a deal with Shanghai Maglev Transportation Development Co to explore its Transrapid rail technology which Shanghai maglev was developed upon, an important agenda during Chinese premier Wen Jiabao’s visit to Berlin.

Last December local media reported that city planners had revised the maglev plan and would build parts of the line underground to allay public fears over electromagnetic radiation and excessive noise.

The maglev project has drawn tremendous media attention since two years ago when residents living along the planned route took to the streets to protest against it.

The project is an extension to the existing 431km/h maglev train service running from Longyang Road to the Pudong International Airport, a journey that takes just seven minutes.

The Longyang Rd maglev station connects to a Metro station to disperse commuters to the city centre.

According to proposals published by the city’s urban planning and administration bureau in December 2007 to seek public feedback, the new 31km-route will extend southwest from the Longyang Rd station through the World Expo site, Huangpu River, Shanghai South railway station and end up at Hongqiao airport.

“The maglev line is planned to run through densely-populated residential areas and this caused a huge uproar among the residents,” a resident who lives near the proposed track told The Star.

“Thousands of residents held street protests last year to express their concern that it would bring about safety and environmental problems.”

Following the protests, the maglev project was sent back to the drawing board and city officials had been careful in dealing with the affected residents.

Caijing reported that the Shanghai Urban Construction and Communications Commission presided over a special meeting in which the authorities involved were briefed on the latest plans.

City planners were now contemplating placing the maglev line 25m underground in densely-populated areas.

Shanghai Tongji University’s railway and urban rail transport research centre professor Sun Zhang was quoted as saying that moving the line underground would provide a reasonable solution to the residents’ worries.

“Previously, we had said that the 22.5m buffer zone for the maglev line was sufficient, and that the electromagnetic radiation emitted would not cause any harm to nearby residents. But, they didn’t believe it,” he said.

“Building the line underground should dispel their fears and reduce noise pollution. Besides, the authorities will not need to relocate so many residents.”

However, National People’s Congress (NPC) representative and Chinese Academy of Engineering academician Wang Mengshu, an opponent of the maglev project, said an underground maglev line would cost more.

He disclosed that he had been invited by officials involved in the project to provide expert advice, and he had told them that he was not in favour of it.

“Once the new plan comes out, I will raise this matter in the NPC and object to it,” China Business Journal quoted Wang as saying.

For the metropolis, the maglev project is inevitable and it is just a matter of when the project will commence.

Early this year, Shanghai mayor Han Zheng had said: “Shanghai Maglev is a system that will link both Pudong and Hongqiao international airports, and this will enhance the service functionality of the city as a whole.”

He said the project would benefit the Yangtze Delta region and was a major national project to improve inter-city connectivity in the country.

“Since 2008, experts from various parts of the country have given their views on the project. We are still studying the different plans,” he said at a press conference on Jan 17.

The project is part of a bigger maglev blueprint approved by the Cabinet in 2006 to connect the city with Hangzhou in Zhejiang province, which is about 160km away.

Media reports said that the maglev line in Hangzhou would commence in 2010, and Shanghai authorities were preparing to start work on the extension from Pudong to Hongqiao airport.

The 12 billion yuan (RM6.47bil) Longyang Rd-Pudong airport maglev line has incurred losses in the millions from day one. Only 5,000 commuters use the service daily and the operator has spent a billion yuan on repairs and replacement parts, the reports said.

The only way to turn this situation around and recoup losses would be to extend the service to Hangzhou, some have said.

Despite the Shanghai-Hangzhou maglev project, especially the extension from Pudong to Hongqiao airport, remaining a stumbling block, railway authorities began work on the 29.68bil yuan (RM16bil) Shanghai-Hangzhou high-speed passenger rail project on Thursday.

The train will cut travelling time from the current hour-and-a-half to just 38 minutes, travelling at a top speed of 350km/h.

There will be nine stations: Hongqiao, Songjiang, Fengjing, Jiashan, Jiaxing, Tongxiang, Haining, Yuhang and eastern Hangzhou.

[big-dog]

The map seems to be based off of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_China

There seems to be many mistakes from the Wikipedia article. Are they really going to build a 350km/h train to Lanzhou? Why not spend that money for Nanjing to Wuhan? Why does no seem to care about Inner Mongolia?



http://thetransportpolitic.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/china-hsr.jpg

by wikipedia, the following CRH lines are in service now:

A. Intercity services (typically, listed in schedules as C-series or D-series trains):

Beijing - Beidaihe, Qinhuangdao
Beijing - Tianjin
Beijing - Shijiazhuang
Shanghai - Kunshan, Suzhou, Wuxi, Changzhou, Nanjing
Shanghai - Hangzhou, Yiwu, Jinhua
Nanjing - Hangzhou
Guangzhou - Shenzhen
Wuhan - Zhengzhou, Changsha
Changsha - Nanchang
Xi'an - Baoji

B. Long-haul services (typically, listed in schedules as Z-series trains):

Beijing - Shenyang, Changchun, Harbin
Beijing - Jinan, Qingdao, Shanghai
Beijing - Zhengzhou, Wuhan
Shanghai - Zhengzhou, Qingdao
Shanghai - Nanchang, Changsha

[big-dog]

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/High-Speed_rail_Lines_Around_the_World.html

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7786/highspeedrail3.jpg
SHANGHAI, CHINA - JANUARY 28: (CHINA OUT) A passenger takes a photo of a CRH (China Railway High-speed) "bullet train" at Shanghai South Railway Station January 28 in Shanghai, China. In this configuration, two trains are linked at the pictured locomotives to make a longer train with greater passenger capacity. China's bullet train, the nation's fastest train, debuts for operation on the Shanghai-Beijing route today. The train can run at a top speed of 250 kph (155 mph), and would cut the journey time on the Beijing-Shanghai route from nine hours to five. (Photo by China Photos/Getty Images)

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BEIJING - DECEMBER 17: Chinese workers pass by a pile of rail at the Beijing South Railway Station which is the starting station of Beijing-Tianjin Intercity High-speed Railway on December 17, 2007 in Beijing, China. Workers completed laying the tracks for the intercity high-speed railway between Beijing and Tianjin on December 16, the first of its kind in China. Designed for a full speed of 350 kilometers per hour, the railway will shorten the journey between the two cities from the current 70 minutes to around 30 minutes. Beijing-Tianjin Intercity High-speed Railway will be operational before the Beijing Olympic Games in next August. According to the blueprint of China Ministry of Railway, intercity high-speed railway network will be set up in the economic developed areas, including the Yangtze River Delta, the Bohai Sea Ring area and the Pearl River Delta, by 2020. (Photo by Feng Li/Getty Images)

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SHANGHAI, CHINA - JANUARY 28: (CHINA OUT) A cabin of a CRH (China Railway High-speed) "bullet train" is seen at Shanghai South Railway Station January 28 in Shanghai, China. China's bullet train, the nation's fastest train, debuts for operation on the Shanghai-Beijing route today. The train can run at a top speed of 250 kph (155 mph), and would cut the journey time on the Beijing-Shanghai route from nine hours to five. (Photo by China Photos/Getty Images)

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HANGZHOU, CHINA - JANUARY 28: (CHINA OUT) A passenger looks at a CRH (China Railway High-speed) "bullet train" at Hangzhou Railway Station January 28 in Hangzhou, Zhejiang Province, China. China's bullet train, the nation's fastest train, debuts for operation on the Shanghai-Beijing route today. The train can run at a top speed of 250 kph (155 mph), and would cut the journey time on the Beijing-Shanghai route from nine hours to five. (Photo by China Photos/Getty Images)

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SHANGHAI, CHINA - APRIL 8: (CHINA OUT) Passengers get on and off a high-speed magnetic levitation train on April 8, 2006 in Shanghai, China. The National Development and Reform Commission said on its Web site that the State Council has given the green light to a high-speed magnetic levitation train line between Shanghai and the resort city of Hangzhou. The 175 kilometer (110 mile) railway, which will be able to travel up to 450 kilometers per hour (280 mph), will cost RMB 35 billion (USD 4.3 billion), and begin this year, according to state media. (Photo by China Photos/Getty Images)

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/254/highspeedrail7.jpg
SHANGHAI, CHINA - JUNE 7: (CHINA OUT; PHOTOCOME OUT) A police man walks past a billboard featuring a Maglev train, also known as the magnetic levitation train at a station on June 7, 2005 in Shanghai, China. Shanghai boasts the world's only commercial high-speed railway supported by maglev technology. The rail line, developed by Germany's Transrapid International Consortium, takes eight minutes to hurtle the 30 kilometres from Shanghai airport to the city's outskirts -- a journey which takes up to an hour by car. A magnetic charge lifts the train's sleek carriages, first of their kind in the world, one centimetre above the track. The train's top speed is 430 kilometres per hour. The Maglev line has impressed British Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown as he rode the train in February this year. And British Prime Minister Tony Blair has held a seminar to consider building a Maglev route along the spine of Britain through Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle and Edinburgh. (Photo by China Photos/Getty Images)

[big-dog]

Length:968km
Max speed: 350 km/h
Completion: 2010

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1028/w020050624319054841499.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1959/36378662200802280944580.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9968/36378662200802280945060.jpg

(baidu.com)

[big-dog]

Wuhan-Guangzhou express rail Shaoguan railway station construction

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7326/2009022711013500.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3526/2009022711001704.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5696/2009022710575602.jpg

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http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8819/2009022711084190.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6135/2009022711092885.jpg

(ditiezu.com)

[big-dog]

Wuhan-Guangzhou express rail construction in Guangdong province

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6458/2009022710570290.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1323/2009022711114569.jpg

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http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8068/2009022711234650.jpg

(ditiezu.com)

[pearl_river]

"
However, National People’s Congress (NPC) representative and Chinese Academy of Engineering academician Wang Mengshu, an opponent of the maglev project, said an underground maglev line would cost more.

He disclosed that he had been invited by officials involved in the project to provide expert advice, and he had told them that he was not in favour of it."


Why won't they give up? The maglev is redundant and building it will now be even more expensive.

[zergcerebrates]

Isn't the Shanghai to Beijing one still in construction? Is this 250kph CRH running on old rail lines? I thought the trains traveling between Shanghai and Beijing would be faster like in the 360kph

[YelloPerilo]

Wuhan-Guangzhou express rail Shaoguan railway station construction

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7326/2009022711013500.jpg

(ditiezu.com)

Goodness, I still remember the first time I went to Shaoguan in 1994, it was a backward little dump. The train I took to get back to Gaungzhou was packed to the max and I had to take my seat on the overhead luggage rack as there was not even an inch of space to stand.

[big-dog]

Hefei-Wuhan high speed rail

Length: 350km
Speed: 200kmh - 250kmh

http://chinaneast.xinhuanet.com/jszb/2008-12/19/xin_553120519081115605481.jpg

(www.chinaequip.gov.cn)

[pearl_river]

The Australian

ANXIOUS Australian miners and investors take heart. This vast, uncompleted bridge spanning the Yangtze River near Nanjing in China -- part of the new $US32 billion ($50 billion) high-speed train link between Beijing and Shanghai -- still needs tens of thousands of tonnes of steel.

And when China needs steel, it looks south to Australia, the world's biggest exporter of iron ore and metallurgical coal, the key ingredients in steelmaking.

Chinese officials say privately that the entire 1318km railway linking the nation's political and commercial centres will consume at least 100 million tonnes of Australian iron ore, worth about $6 billion, during the five-year construction phase.

When it is completed in four years' time, the rail link will slash the travel time between Beijing and Shanghai from at least 10hours to less than five, with trains travelling at more than 300km/h along steel tracks made from Australian iron ore.

The line represents just a fraction of the estimated $US700billion China plans to spend between now and 2020 to add 41,000km to its already extensive rail network.

Infrastructure spending forms a key part of the Beijing's $US585billion economic stimulus package, which some observers believe is already starting to make an impact. Officials from the Communist Party yesterday said economic growth would bottom this quarter before recovering in the June quarter.

The Australian Bureau of Agriculture Resource Economics, the nation's chief commodities forecaster, this week said risks remained for China's economy but it expected growth to recover from 6.7 per cent last year to 8 per cent this year and then to resume longer-term average growth of 8.5-9 per cent.

"Despite possible disruptions to its short-term economic performance, continued strong industrialisation and urbanisation in China over the medium to longer term will put significant pressure on its domestic resources," ABARE said.

"As a result, China could become an even more important player in global markets, which would provide increased export opportunities for Australia's commodity industries."

Slumping commodity prices and declining demand from customers such as China have compounded the effects of the global financial crisis on the mining sector, with many companies struggling to survive the downturn.

ABARE figures reveal that falling demand is expected to lead to a contraction in global steel production of about 6 per cent this year. But in developing countries that have underpinned recent growth, such as China and India, steel production is expected to keep rising.

ABARE said the pace of growth should be slower this year, but that growth should quickly recover to rates before the financial slowdown. China consumes more than 40 per cent of the world's steel output.

ABARE said that following recessions in the 1980s and 1990s, global steel production took eight to nine years to recover to pre-recession levels. "However, it is expected global steel production will experience a relatively quick recovery from the current recession. China is expected to underpin this quick recovery," ABARE said. "Contributing to a rapid recovery in China's steel production growth will be aggressive government action to stimulate the Chinese economy."

Minerals Council chief executive Mitch Hooke said China was managing its way through long-term political and structural reforms in a carefully planned and calculated manner. The Government was now "rebalancing growth" through higher infrastructure spending, lower interest rates, increased export rebates and fewer restrictions on property ownership.

"The $64 billion question is to what extent growth in China and other developing economies like Brazil and India offsets the decline in the developed economies," Mr Hooke said.

[big-dog]

China to open Wenzhou-Fuzhou railroad at mid-year

www.chinaview.cn 2009-03-09

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FUZHOU, March 9 (Xinhua) -- A railway line linking Wenzhou, a city in east China's Zhejiang Province, with Fuzhou, capital of Fujian Province, also in eastern China, will open to traffic on June 30, the Fujian provincial government confirmed Monday.

The local government said tracks for the line, which will be the first to link the two regions, have been completed. The line has a designed speed of 200 km to 250 km per hour for passenger trains.

The project, which started in August 2005, cost 12.66 billion yuan (1.85 billion U.S. dollars). The line has 298.4 km of rail, of which 229.1 km are in Fujian.


(xinhuanet.com)

[big-dog]

China to have world's fastest train by 2012: researcher

www.chinaview.cn 2009-03-06

BEIJING, March 6 (Xinhua) -- Trains on the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railroad under construction will run at 350 km per hour, the fastest in the world, said Li Heping, a researcher at the China Academy of Railway Sciences on Friday.

The 1,318-km-long railway line, with a designed speed of 350 kilometers per hour, will beat the fastest rails in the world at present, which has a designed speed of 320 kilometers per hour, he said.

Trains will take less than five hours to make the run from the capital to Shanghai, which is now at least 11 hours.

The new rail line would be used for passenger service, while the existing one for cargo transportation, according to Li.

"The railway traffic strain will be greatly eased by 2012 as the country will increase investment and build faster rails and trains," he said.

The Ministry of Railways has said it planned to invest 1.2 trillion yuan (about 175.44 billion U.S. dollars) to improve the railway system, aiming to have 13,000 km of passenger lines by 2012.

According to Li, 8,000 km of the lines would allow trains to travel between 200 to 350 km per hour, and 5,000 km for trains with a speed from 200 to 250 km.

The money is part of the 4-trillion-yuan stimulus package announced by the government late last year, the ministry said.

Currently, there are not enough seats for all the people who want to travel, especially during the Lunar New Year every year, when millions are on the move for family reunion.

"Research on high-speed trains are going on smoothly," he said. The new trains would be batch-produced after trial operations in 2012.

China was developing trains that would run at a designed speed of 350 km per hour, and the speed for test might exceed 380 kilometers, according to Li.

China aimed to put 120,000 km of rail lines in service by 2020,of which 16,000 km would be dedicated to only passenger services, according to the Ministry of Railways.

To meet the 2020 target will require about 5 trillion yuan, the ministry said.

[big-dog]

Zhengzhou-Xi'an express rail starts tracklaying

Length: 458.2km
Speed: 350kmh
Finishing: 12/28/2009

This rail will shorten Shanghai-Xi'an rail time from 15 hrs to 5 hrs, Beijing-Xi'an from 11 hrs to 4 hrs.

source: http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2009-03-11/082417383057.shtml

[big-dog]

Chengdu-Dujiangyan rail 成灌铁路

Length: 65.5km
Speed: 200kmh
Cost: 1.2 billion yuan
Start: Oct 1 2008
Finish: May 12 2010
Location: Sichuan province

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Construction pics

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(baidu.com)

[big-dog]

Xiamen-Shenzhen express Rail

Period: 2008.1.6 ~ 2011
Cost: 41.7 billion
Length: 502.4km
Speed: 200kmh
Location: Fujian - Guangdong province

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9041/w0200801074471428062846.jpg
construction pics

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[chornedsnorkack]

Xiamen-Shenzhen express Rail

Period: 2008.1.6 ~ 2011
Cost: 41.7 billion
Length: 502.4km
Speed: 200kmh
Location: Fujian - Guangdong province

Can anyone explain where it goes in the southeastern rail line? What are the completion due dates of other stretches - Xiamen to Fuzhou, Wenzhou to Hangzhou?

[big-dog]

^^ It's called "Coastal Rail", building along the whole east coast line.

Xiamen-Fuzhou, 275km, will be finished by the end of 2009
Wenzhou-Hangzhou rail already opened in 1998, the HSR expansion project will start this year 2009 and finishing in 2013.

[chornedsnorkack]

^^ It's called "Coastal Rail", building along the whole east coast line.

Xiamen-Fuzhou, 275km, will be finished by the end of 2009
Wenzhou-Hangzhou rail already opened in 1998, the HSR expansion project will start this year 2009 and finishing in 2013.
Thanks! So, when Xiamen-Shenzhen opens in 2011, the line shall be complete except for the HSR expansion, which shall be complete in 2013.

As of 2013, after completion of Hangzhou-Wenzhou HSR, what shall be the trip time Hangzhou-Shenzhen by coastal rail, and what shall be the trip time as of 2013 on the route Hangzhou-Nanchang-Changsha-Guangzhou-Shenzhen?

[big-dog]

Thanks! So, when Xiamen-Shenzhen opens in 2011, the line shall be complete except for the HSR expansion, which shall be complete in 2013.

As of 2013, after completion of Hangzhou-Wenzhou HSR, what shall be the trip time Hangzhou-Shenzhen by coastal rail, and what shall be the trip time as of 2013 on the route Hangzhou-Nanchang-Changsha-Guangzhou-Shenzhen?

I can only say, the time for those trips will be dramatically reduced.

Another part of the coastal rail is North Line, which is the line towards north of Shanghai.

That part was started in 2008 but due to land acquisition problem, it's not moving for some time.

[big-dog]

Yujiabao transportation hub, Tianjin Binhai New District

It'll be the new Binhai station of Beijing-Tianjin express rail Binhai extension, located at the borth end of the Yujiabao Business District.
(The rail extension project was completed and opened Sep 2008, it's using the old Binhai station now)

Project started March 1 2009, will be finished in 2011.
Cost: 12 billion yuan

rendering

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Yujiabao business district construction pics (Nov 2008)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5421/633687411479477500.jpg

another news,
Beijing-Tianjin express rail extension stimulates Binhai New District tourism

3/15/2009

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/p/2009-03-15/1237076770_OKnt40.jpg

http://i1.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/p/2009-03-15/U1725P1T1D17410129F23DT20090315104532.jpg

http://i1.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/p/2009-03-15/U1725P1T1D17410129F1394DT20090315104532.jpg

(sina.com)

[pearl_river]

Zhengzhou-Xi'an express rail starts tracklaying

Length: 458.2km
Speed: 350kmh
Finishing: 12/28/2009

They expect to complete in 9 months?

[BarbaricManchurian]

^^tracklaying is just a phase; they already did grading, concrete bed construction, viaducts and tunnels, etc... Now the only thing left before it opens is to put the rails on the completed surface (probably will take about 1-2 months, tianjin-beijing HSR tracklaying took 15 days), test runs, and landscaping.

[big-dog]

Zhengzhou-Xi'an express rail starts tracklaying

Length: 458.2km
Speed: 350kmh
Finishing: 12/28/2009

They expect to complete in 9 months?

Yes :)

The project stared on 9/25/2005.

[big-dog]

Wuhan-Guangzhou express rail at Wuhan East Lake section

(pano pic, will take a while to open)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2286/55420320.jpg

(ditiezu.com)

[snow is red]

China to purchase 350km/h high-speed trains for 39.2b yuan

2009-03-16

BEIJING - China's Ministry of Railways (MOR) signed a deal with state-owned vehicle producer CNR Corporation Limited (CNR) here Monday to purchase 100 high-speed CRH trains for 39.2 billion yuan (US$5.74 billion).

CRH, an abbreviation for China Railway High-speed, refers to trains with speeds above 200 km per hour. With a designed speed of 350km/h, the new CRH trains will travel between Beijing and Shanghai in 2011, when the construction of the 1318-km, high-speed railway between the capital city and the country's financial hub is expected to complete.

"The contract does not include any foreign parties, as Chinese companies possess core technologies for the high-speed trains and have complete intellectual rights over the 350km/h CRH type," said Zhang Shuguang, director of the transport department under the MOR.

The MOR had introduced railway technologies from Japan, France, Germany and Canada in the development and production of the 200km/h CRH trains already in operation at present.

According to the agreement between the ministry and CNR, all 100 trains will be self-developed and manufactured under the CNR group. Tangshan Railway Vehicle Co. and Changchun Railway Vehicle Co., two CNR subsidiaries, will be in charge of the production of 60 sets and 40 sets, respectively.

Zhang said China would see "large purchases" of CRH trains in the coming years upon the completion of more passenger railway lines across the country.

The MOR has planned to spend 500 billion yuan to buy trains over the next four years.

"The purchases will provide strong support for related industries," Zhang said.

The manufacturing of a CRH train requires nearly 100,000 parts from a wide range of industries such as mechanics, metallurgy, electrics, chemical, and materials.

"We will buy more CRH trains this year as a move to help stimulate domestic demand," said Zhang without giving further details on the purchasing plan.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-03/16/content_7584281.htm

[big-dog]

Guangzhou-Zhuhai express light rail

Length: 187 km
Speed: 200kmh
Completion: 2010

Also there's a Guangzhou-Zhuhai freight rail U/C. It'll complete in 2011 with max speed 120kmh.

Construction pics:

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(baidu.com)

[Whiteeclipse]

Laiwu Steel launches maglev track plant

China's Laiwu Steel Corp recently began construction of its maglev track plant, which is supported by the country's key technology plan, sources reported.

The first stage of construction will cost a total of RMB 260 million. When it is completed, the company will be able to produce 100,000 tons of maglev-track-related products per year. These products are expected to bring the company around RMB 800 million in sales revenue and RMB 120 million in net profit annually.

Laiwu Steel's maglev track plant will make use of its own relevant technological innovations, which are covered by ten patents, and will conform to industry and country standards.

http://www.chinaknowledge.com/Newswires/News_Detail.aspx?type=1&NewsID=22048

[big-dog]

March 20, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
Siemens onboard for high-speed trains in China

by Erik Palm

The Obama administration isn't the only one looking to high-speed rail lines.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20090320/sc_upload_file_sosep200716_03_(velaro)_300dpi_1452846_270x194.jpg

German train producer Siemens has inked a $1 billion contract to build 100 new high-speed trains for China, the company announced Friday.

The company's Velaro train has a top speed of 218 mph. A typical train will have 16 cars and carry more than 1,000 passengers. With a total length of more than 1,300 feet, the new trains will be the world's longest single high-speed units in use, according to Siemens.

(Credit: Siemens )Japan and European countries such as France have had high-speed train systems for decades. But now the race to build such trains seems to have taken off in two of the leading world economies, the China and the U.S.

In the U.S., the Obama administration wants to invest $1 billion dollars a year over the next five years in high-speed rail. In addition, the stimulus bill (PDF) contained $8 billion in capital assistance for high-speed rail corridors and intercity passenger rail service.

Among the projects angling for a slice of the stimulus money are California high-speed trains capable of 220 mph and expected to link San Francisco and Los Angeles in as little as two and a half hours. California voters authorized $9.95 billion for the project last year.

At the same time, China plans to create the world's largest high-speed rail network. The Chinese Ministry of Railways is planning to buy around 1,000 high-speed trains within the next few years. The current order from Siemens includes the first trains to serve the new high-speed line between Bejing and Shanghai.

The train will complete the 825-mile run between Bejing and Shanghai in a mere four hours. The Chinese Ministry of Railways already has 60 trains in the Velaro style in use--among other things for transportation between Tianjin-Beijing during the Olympic games last year.

With a consumption of only 0.33 liters per seat for every 100 kilometers traveled (712 mpg), the Velaro is the most environmentally friendly high-speed train on the market, Siemens claims.

[big-dog]

Two high-speed Chinese rail links start April 1

www.chinaview.cn 2009-03-24

BEIJING, March 24 (Xinhua) -- Service starts April 1 on two 250-km per hour passenger rail lines in central and north China, the Ministry of Railways said Tuesday.

The Hefei-Wuhan line will connect Hefei in Anhui Province and Wuhan in Hubei Province. Along with the Hefei-Ningbo line, it will shorten travel times between the Yangtze River Valley and central south China.

Passengers will be able to travel from Wuhan to Hefei in 1 hour and 55 minutes, saving 5 hours and 40 minutes.

The other route, linking Shijiazhuang in Hebei Province and Taiyuan in Shanxi Province, will take 59 minutes, saving 4 hours.

The line will facilitate transportation between west and north China, said Zhang Shuguang, deputy chief engineer of the ministry.

[chornedsnorkack]

See
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=218503&page=59

350 km/h PDL line
Beijing - Tianjin 120 km, opend in 2008
Wuhan - Guangzhou 989 km, will open in 2009
Zhengzhou - Xi'an 484.518 km, will open in 2009
300 km/h PDL line
Ningbo -Wenzhou 268 km, will open in 2009
Fuzhou - Xiamen 273 km, will open in 2009
250 km/h PDL line
Qinhuangdao - Shenyang 404 km, opened in 2003
Jinan - Qingdao 360 km, opened in 2008
Hefei - Ningbo 119 km, opened in 2008
Hefei - Wuhan 357 km, Opened in 2008
Shijiazhuang - Taiyuan 189 km, will open in 2009
Haikou - Sanya 296.7 km, will open in 2009
Wenzhou - Fuzhou 298.4 km will open in 2009

Has Hefei-Wuhan been delayed?

[big-dog]

See
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=218503&page=59

Has Hefei-Wuhan been delayed?

please look up. Hefei-Wuhan HSR will open for passengers next Wednesday. :cheers:

[chornedsnorkack]

please look up. Hefei-Wuhan HSR will open for passengers next Wednesday. :cheers:
In which case, could anyone check the rest of the list?

[big-dog]

Harbin-Dalian express rail

Length: 904km
Project started: 8/23/2007
Finishing: 2013, some parts finish by 2010
Speed: 350kmph
Cost: 92.3 billion Yuan

Railway station: will build 18 new station, renovate 9 existing station
Bridges: 2/3 rail elevated, 162 bridges (bridge length 663km)
Location: Liaoning Province (553km), Jilin Province (270km), Heilongjiang Province (81km)

Map

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Construction pics:

2007 kick-off

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8.2008

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1.2009

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3.6.2009

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(baidu.com)

[chornedsnorkack]

Harbin-Dalian express rail
Length: 904km
Project started: 8/23/2007
Finishing: 2013, some parts finish by 2010
Speed: 350kmph
Cost: 92.3 billion Yuan

Railway station: will build 18 new station, renovate 9 existing station
Bridges: 2/3 rail elevated, 162 bridges (bridge length 663km)
Location: Liaoning Province (553km), Jilin Province (270km), Heilongjiang Province (81km)


From the link I showed:
350 km/h PDL line
Beijing - Shenyang 687 km, will open in 2012
Beijing - Shanghai 1318 km, will open in 2013
Harbin - Dalian 904 km, will open in 2013
200 km/h UCR line
Beijing - Harbin 1388 km, opened in 2007
Beijing - Shanghai 1463 km, opened in 2007

From the map you gave, it seems that the Harbin-Dalian express rail goes through Shenyang. In which case there would be express rail between Beijing and Harbin.

How long would the express rail be between Beijing and Harbin?

Since some parts of Harbin-Dalian express rail finish by 2010, when shall Beijing-Harbin express rail be finished?

The existing 200 km/h UCR line of 1388 km would bean an absolute minimum of 6:57 minutes excluding stops and lower-speed parts of railway; but of course both exist so that the shortest trip time Beijing-Harbin seems to be, from

http://www.chinatravelguide.com/ctgwiki/Special:CNTrainSearch?from=Beijing&to=Harbin

train D25, which covers the distance in 8:04.

How long shall Beijing-Harbin be after the speed is 350 km/h all the way?

[big-dog]

^^ The current Beijing - Harbin is 200kmph CRH, not 350kmph inter-city express rail.

Technically speaking, Beijing - Harbin express rail (350kmph) is Beijing -Shenyang express rail (whole line, 350kmph) plus Harbin - Dalian express rail (Harbin - Shenyang part, 350kmph).

So normally they don't call Beijing - Harbin rail but Beijing-Shenyang and Harbin-Dalian rail.

By planning, Beijing - Shenyang and Harbin -Shenyang express rail will finish in 2012 so Beijing - Harbin express rail will open in 2012.

[chornedsnorkack]

In which case, could anyone check the rest of the list?
A correction has been posted:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=218503&page=60
250 km/h line
Hefei - Nanjing 156 km, opened in 2008
Hefei - Wuhan 357 km, opened in 2009
Shijiazhuang - Taiyuan 189 km, opened in 2009
Ningbo - Wenzhou 282 km, will open in 2009

but also
350 km/h PDL line
Harbin - Dalian 904 km, will open in 2011

[z0rg]

I wonder when are they approving a railway and expressway link linking Dalian and Yantai by corssing the Bohai Sea.

[big-dog]

It has been discussed for quite some time. It would be a hugh and money eating project. I assume it wont get priority until the other large projects (railway/highway) are finished.

[chornedsnorkack]

In December 2009, Guangzhou-Wuhan high-speed line shall open. 968 km long - remarkably long for a high-speed line. Tomorrow, 1st of April 2009, a high-speed line shall open between Nanjing and Wuhan.

What types of trains shall operate Guangzhou-Wuhan in December? What shall the trip time be? And what shall the trip time be Guangzhou to Nanjing?

[big-dog]

Shijiazhuang–Taiyuan CRH

Shijiazhuang–Taiyuan Passenger Railway, 250 km/h, opened on April 1, 2009

This line cut the travel time between Shijiazhuang to Taiyuan from 04h59m to 01h13m.

http://www.jingxing.net/news/UploadFiles_8041/200904/20090402084516882.jpg

http://www.jingxing.net/news/UploadFiles_8041/200904/20090402084517722.jpg

[big-dog]

^^ Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan expressrail

Construction: 2005.6 - 2008.12
length: 189.93km
Shorten travel time: 5 hours

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7277/w020090220296956619818.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9608/xin07302061809158902864.jpg

construction pics

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(baidu.com)

[foxmulder_ms]

I love construction pictures. thanks....

[chornedsnorkack]

There have been repeated arguments and delays with extending Shanghai maglev. Is the extension from the existing Longyang Road final station to Hongqiao going on?

How long shall the stretch to Hongqiao be?

How many stops shall there be?

How long shall the trip from Pudong to Hongqiao take?

When shall the line be completed?

[big-dog]

I haven't got update for Pudong-Hongqiao maglev development. It's halted for some time.

I believe subway line 2 will connect Pudong airport and Hongqiao airport before maglev. (Line 2 completes by 2010)

You can get some old news in this thread.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=28134274#post28134274

[chornedsnorkack]

Wuhan-Nanjing is 513 km:
Hefei - Nanjing 156 km, opened in 2008
Hefei - Wuhan 357 km, opened in 2009

Another long railway due for completion in 2009 is
Ningbo - Wenzhou 282 km, will open in 2009
Wenzhou - Fuzhou 298 km will open in 2009
Fuzhou - Xiamen 273 km, will open in 2009

making 853 km total between Ningbo and Xiamen.

Which month shall it open? And how long shall the travel time be?

[big-dog]

First Yunnan Province HSR to contruct in September

Hangzhou-Changsha-Kunming (Yunnan Province)

Length: 2020km
Speed: 350kmph
Cost: 277.8 billion yuan
Construction starts: Sep 2009
Construction period: 5 years
Capacity: 60 million

The HSR Kunming-Shanghai route will be Kunming-Qujing-Fuyuan-Guiyang-Changsha-Hangzhou-Shanghai (昆明——曲靖——富源——贵阳——长沙——杭州——上海), traveling time will be shortened to 10 hours;

The HSR Kunming-Beijing route will be Kunming-Guiyang-Changsha-Wuhan_Zhengzhou-Shijiazhuang-Beijing (昆明——贵阳——长沙——武汉——郑州——石家庄——北京). The traveling time will be reduced to 12 hours from current 47 hours 13 minutes.


Another HSR Kunming-Nanning rail will construct in 2009

Speed: 200-250kmph
Construction starts: 2009
Construction period: 6 years
Route: Kunming-Qiubei-Nanning (昆明——丘北——南宁)

Source: http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2009-04-08/095617567920.shtml

[big-dog]

Beijing-Zhangjiakou rail (picture taken feb 2009)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4291/200902l.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8855/71069408.jpg

(hasea.com)

[big-dog]

Jinan-Qingdao CRH 胶济铁路客运专线

Construction period: 2005 ~ 2008.5.31
Length: 362.5km
Speed: 200-250 kmph
Cost: 9.58 billion yuan
Location: Shandong Province

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7199/2009030793dc5d42276b280.jpg

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(pics from hasea.com)

[foxmulder_ms]

Old and new next to each other, nice :) This new line should be max 250km, right? Since its base is not concrete.

[big-dog]

CRH trains in the new Qingdao Railway station

The new station opened in 2008

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(hasea.com)

[foxmulder_ms]

Last picture is great:)