Victoria tower has been finished!

[Mantas]

76 m high Victoria tower has been finnished



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Mantasss/IMGP1214.jpg


The greatest addition to the Business Triangle in Vilnius so far was officially finished and should be opened soon.

Some facts

Height... 76 m
Floors... 16
Floor area... 6500 m2
Cost... 7,5 mln €
Current vacancy... 0%
Construction started... Feb 2004
Ended... Feb 2005

History of construction

May 2004
http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/v137/Mantaz/IMGP3867.jpg

Aug 2004. Pics by John
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Vilnius/NCC_BT/IMG_6063.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Vilnius/NCC_BT/IMG_5781.jpg

Sep 2004. Pic by John
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/Vilnius/NCC_BT/IMG_6614.jpg

Oct 2004
http://img.miestai.net/IMGP5898.JPG

Pic by Romas
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/Romas2/VLN%20Verslo%20trikampis/02100025.jpg

Dec 2004
http://img.miestai.net/IMGP0106.JPG

http://img.miestai.net/IMGP0533.JPG

Jan 2005
http://img.miestai.net/2005/PICT0088.JPG

Feb 2005. The building was already finished

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Mantasss/IMGP1728.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Mantasss/IMGP1733.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Mantasss/IMGP1734.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Mantasss/IMGP1737.jpg

[delfin_pl]

very nice building, too bad its not taller but still great

[Singidunum]

what were they doing from Feb 2004 and Feb 2005?

[Edd]

Thanks Mantaz for this thread. I found some more pictures at www.constructus.lt
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/2706/mg4d2es.jpg

Historical moment :), both cranes are working synchronically:
http://img183.exs.cx/img183/4774/mg5d9gl.jpg

[Edd]

@delfin_pl: Taller building would not fit in that area - it already sticks out in that complex and also there are height limits at that place.

[Mantas]

what were they doing from Feb 2004 and Feb 2005?
Emm, building Victoria? :dunno:

[Singidunum]

you wrote February 2004. :)

[Mantas]

^^^ I noticed and corrected ;)

[Jarmo K]

don't like it.... this crap on the right side of the main facade ruins it in my opinion. and it's cheating! :D

[sdes]

Quite cheap tower and still manage to look ok, nice addition to the Bisness Triangle.

[Mantas]

@Jarmo yeah, it's sucks to have this building in the city, isn't it ;)?

Here's a night pic that I forgot to add :)

Jan 2005
http://img.miestai.net/2005/PICT0088.JPG

[sander]

It`s so strange building. I don`t like it nor hate it.

[Gatis]

I rather like it. Incredibly fast + incredibly cheap + still looks quite OK. 6,5 out of 10.

[ZuluKingOfTheDwarfPeople]

I would give it a 5 but with the EU symbol on the building next to it, 6 out of 10 :D

[Edd]

Incredibly cheap? For Finns it might look so but for Latvians? Definitely not. Don't forget that parking is not counted in and that it's small - only 6500 sq.m. High quality and not cheap materials were used: saint globain glass and natural stone. "Constructus" - the company which built "Victoria" managed to save money and time by using some technologies about what you can read below but that does not mean that the tower is "cheap" (of cheap materials/cheap looking or smth.). The rent prices are highest in Vilnius and companies who care about their prestige moved there (including "Constructus" itself - one of the biggest construction company in Lithuania which also built new municipality building). Is it just me or there are some people who just envy too much? (It is sad that Tallinn and Riga are behind, isn't it? :D) "Victoria" belongs to "MG Baltic" which is one of the biggest groups in Lithuania and our neighbours really have many signs in their cities of "MG Baltic" works - especially it should be visible in Riga. ;)

Constructus completes new Victoria office tower in Vilnius

Constructus, one of the largest construction companies in Lithuania, has finalized construction of the Victoria business center. The new 16-story skyscraper on Jasinskio Street in Vilnius was completed in less than one year. A total of LTL 26 M (EUR 7.5 M) was invested in the modern building, part of the Business Triangle complex developed by the MG Valda company.

"When constructing the new Victoria office building, the most advanced solutions were used, which allowed us to ensure high quality and make the construction period as short as possible," said Dr. Virgaudas Juocevičius, Managing Director/Chairman of the Board of Constructus. He added that right from the tendering stage, Constructus specialists had proposed technological solutions aimed at improving the quality of the building and saving the customer money. "We are happy that we have successfully implemented the tasks we established. This helped us meet the expectations of MG Valda and continue implementing the strategic goal of Constructus – creating long-term partnerships with our clients," Dr. Juocevičius said.

"We were sure that the newly completed building would be attractive to companies; however, their interest exceeded our expectations – all floors of the building have already been leased. We are sure that the business center will fully justify its name and will be convenient for all the tenants," Rolandas Vingilis, Chairman of the Board of MG Valda, said. He explained that in anticipation of the demands of future tenants, the suites in the building are configured in such a way that a company can occupy a whole, half or third of a floor.

Following the proposal made by Constructus specialists, when constructing the 16-story, 76.3 meter (250 foot) high building with a total area of 6,500 sq. m (70,000 sq. ft.), a solution that is unique to Lithuania has been chosen: steel beam and monolithic concrete roofing was replaced by prefabricated, reinforced concrete slab roofing. This increased the reliability of the structure, reduced construction time and saved money. When assembling this roofing, for the first time in Lithuania, 24 m (79 ft.) long, reinforced concrete TT slabs were lifted to a height of 61 m (200 ft.) by two synchronous tower cranes.

The facade finishes of the new MG Valda office building are modern. The main and back facades of the building are made of clear glass, and the side facades are made of natural stone. The central hall, with its three-level atrium and glass bridge, emphasizes the lightness of the building. On top, 61 m above ground, is an observation site – a 24 m long bridge. It is the only structure of its kind in Lithuania. The general contractor, Constructus, has already moved its own headquarters into the new building.

[AtlanticaC5]

I like that building, and it seems it was built quite fast too.

[Lauris]

Very kind and cute building, i hope we have more such like this :cheers1: :cheers:

[John]

Cheap? LOL. It must be the highest quality highrise building in Vilnius (and perhaps not only) in terms or both architecture and materials used (as Edd already mentioned it was definitely not cheap materials used for it e.g. granite and expensive glass). The cost is low because the building itself is only 6,500 m2 of area (ET is 17,000m2; Saules Akmens is about 30,000m2).

In fact it's now one of my favorite highrises in Vilnius, perhaps after ET and EA. Definitely better than City Plaza in Tallinn (oh well, I guess it's offtopic, sorry) ;)

[Edd]

Saules Akmens is 30 000 m^2 with underground parking?

[John]

Saules Akmens is 30 000 m^2 with underground parking?

Not sure about that, I guess Gatis could inform us about this better.

[Edd]

Not sure about that, I guess Gatis could inform us about this better.
In oberhaus it is written that office space is 18 500 m^2 and in hansabank.lv it is written that total space is 23 511 sq. m. So total space is 23 511 sq. m. of which 18 500 m^2 are offices and the rest space is for conference halls, restaurant etc.

[John]

^^^
That makes sense. ET office area is about 15,000 while the total area is about 17,000.

[Edd]

^^^
That makes sense. ET office area is about 15,000 while the total area is about 17,000.
To be exact total space of ET is: 17'300 m². The new Hansabankas office building in Vilnius will be of about the same size as Saules Akmens. I hope that it'll be of about the same beauty as Saules Akmens too. ;) Although I doubt it. :( I think that in terms of design Saules Akmens will stay no.1 for a long time in the Baltic states.

[John]

Edd, I think before making any assumptions about designs we should at least see those designs participating in the design contest. ;)

[Edd]

^^^ I did not make strict assumptions I just wrote: "I doubt it". ;)

[John]

So you better keep your doubts to yourself then :D ;)

[Edd]

So you better keep your doubts to yourself then :D ;)
And you better keep your comments about my doubts to yourself. :tongue4: Because it reminds the famous: "It is sooo pooooointless". :naughty:

[Geex]

^^^ And you all should keep your comments for yourself :D

[Edd]

^^^ And you all should keep your comments for yourself :D
And you should stay out of your computer!!! :tongue:

[Geex]

And you should stay out of your computer!!! :tongue:

Mantaz ban him! :bash: :D

[Edd]

Mantaz ban him! :bash: :D
This shows your attitude to Mantaz (you look at him like to a dog who must listen to your commands). :ohno: I'm sure Mantaz will ban you for this.

[Geex]

This shows your attitude to Mantaz (you look at him like to a dog who must listen to your commands). :ohno: I'm sure Mantaz will ban you for this.

I think he will ban both of us, then this place will be again peacefull and prosperous! :sly:

[Edd]

I think he will ban both of us, then this place will be again peacefull and prosperous! :sly:I'm sure that it will not be peacefull and prosperous without me. :angel1:

[John]

And you better keep your comments about my doubts to yourself. :tongue4: Because it reminds the famous: "It is sooo pooooointless". :naughty:

So you're saying tha I (John!) remind you of [censored for specific reasons]???
for GODS SAKE, anything, ANYTHING but NOT this!!! :eek: :runaway:
:badnews:

[Geex]

I'm sure that it will not be peacefull and prosperous without me. :angel1:

Maybe, but you still look suspicious to me.. I will watch after you! :evil:

[Edd]

LOL John. :laugh: I don't know. :dunno: If you'll remove that censorship I'll say if you remind *somebody* or not, now I don't know what you mean. :D

[Edd]

Maybe, but you still look suspicious to me.. I will watch after you! :evil:
OK :cheers1:

[Edd]

Btw in situation which is in this thread now it's possible to say: "You are all sooo childish and this is sooo poooointless!"

[John]

"You are all sooo childish and this is sooo poooointless!"

Moreover, this is so BORING! :eek:

[Gatis]

You misunderstood me... My remark was meant positively. I am pretty sure that in Latvia similar tower would cost at least some 12 mio EUR. Even smaller commieblock style apartment houses (which definitely have way lover quality than Victoria tower) here cost some 10 mio EUR each.
And - answering to the other thing - no, I do not envy Vilnius.

[John]

^^^
Could it be because most of the projects in Latvia are developed by foreign companies (or am I wrong?)? Perhaps they pay more to their staff and workers. In Victoria's case all companies included in development were of Lithuanian capital (and actually most of major projects such as ET, EA, municipality, Vilnius Gate etc. are developed by local companies).

[Edd]

I think it's easier to discuss and compare the quality than the cost of some project. Sometimes even officially announced investments are not the real ones and there are ofcourse many more factors who influence the final sum.

[Oberleutnant]

I'm somewhat disappointed with how Victoria Tower turned out. When I saw the initial renders for the first time I was rather thrilled. Now, when looking at pics of the finished building, I gets "ok".

Maybe it's far nicer in real-life.


The new 16-story skyscraper on Jasinskio Street
Silly. :D

[Mantas]

@Edd, John, Geex stop this discussion, because it's pointless. Know what I mean? :D

[Swede]

yeah guys, hear the words of Mantaz and obey! :D;)

Oh, and to not keep the thread on-topic :)
I don't find the Victoria ower very inspireing, but it ain't bad either. The real test of it is IMO "would I like it built in my 'hood?" - and the answer is defenetly(sp?) Yes!

[Oberleutnant]

^
"definitely" ;)

Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing it built here, either. That's how it is with most buildings I comment with "not good, but not bad either" way.

[ch1le]

Cheap? LOL. It must be the highest quality highrise building in Vilnius (and perhaps not only) in terms or both architecture and materials used (as Edd already mentioned it was definitely not cheap materials used for it e.g. granite and expensive glass). The cost is low because the building itself is only 6,500 m2 of area (ET is 17,000m2; Saules Akmens is about 30,000m2).

In fact it's now one of my favorite highrises in Vilnius, perhaps after ET and EA. Definitely better than City Plaza in Tallinn (oh well, I guess it's offtopic, sorry) ;)

its ptretty, not as pretty as City plaza though :bash: , it seems for lithuanians its always theirs first and others later, 7,5mio euro is quite cheap.....

[Mantas]

^^^ City plaza it's just a boring box. Even the new municipality of Vilnius is prettier than your example :D

[John]

@ch1le

nah seriously, how can a plain gray faceless and cheap-looking box (City Plaza) be better than a building which actually has some architectural idea and better exterior materials? I'm not being biased this time, it's too obvious. So ch1le you can apply this to yourself ;)

[Edd]

City plaza looks definitely worse to me too. Maybe such not very good opinion was formed by those photos of Victoria who are not the best ones because of the weather.

[ch1le]

lol...first off, the facade of City plaza is definetly more complex, secondly Victoria is a box next to a thinner box - a cheat aswell. Thirdly you have never seen cityplaza, and dont know what a masterpiece the base is... Victoria is a glass box, with a concrete slab next to it and a concrete slab on top of it, it is far from "soooo niiice"

[John]

Actually I can't understand how anybody can consider this anyhow interesting? To me it looks like a typical residential building or a cheap office building (in factit reminds me of Maakri maja residential in Tallinn). I ain't got no problems with boxes but this one is just a plain gray box which hasn't got any interesting details or materials. What's so special about it? :? I'm serious.

http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v152/SdeS0/Tallinn/8-Cityplaza.jpg

[John]

lol...first off, the facade of City plaza is definetly more complex, secondly Victoria is a box next to a thinner box - a cheat aswell. Thirdly you have never seen cityplaza, and dont know what a masterpiece the base is... Victoria is a glass box, with a concrete slab next to it and a concrete slab on top of it, it is far from "soooo niiice"

What do you mean by "concrete"? It's granite. AFAIK, granite is a natural stone, so no need to talk such BS.

[ch1le]

granite my ass... its concrete with a hint of granite sprayd on it. And city plaza has more details... lol. its not paint you see over there, the glass interacts with the sun like no other and changes colour, and you say Cheap office building.. get real, Victoria is merely worth the crane putting it up, waste....

[Edd]

What's so special about it? :? I'm serious.
It is located in Tallinn. :wave:

[ch1le]

well, if there was a 1on1 victoria vs City plaza city would win HANDS down...

[Edd]

well, if there was a 1on1 victoria vs City plaza city would win HANDS down...
When there will be better photos made we'll be able to make a poll - you can make better photos of City Plaza too because now I can't see what kind of miracles it's hiding.

[delfin_pl]

well, if there was a 1on1 victoria vs City plaza city would win HANDS down...
edit I've changed my mind, now I've found better pic of the City Plaza

[jozikas]

well, if there was a 1on1 victoria vs City plaza city would win HANDS down...

make a poll :bash:

[ch1le]

not now, i am not at my pc atm...

[Mantas]

granite my ass... its concrete with a hint of granite sprayd on it. And city plaza has more details... lol. its not paint you see over there, the glass interacts with the sun like no other and changes colour, and you say Cheap office building.. get real, Victoria is merely worth the crane putting it up, waste....So you know nothing and never seen the Victoria yourself, how can you say it is so? :)

Actually it's not a hint painted, but the slabs were put on the base as you can see in this photo.

http://img.miestai.net/IMGP5902.JPG

[John]

lol ch1le, you like bullshitting don't you :D

Ok, as you see Victoria's facades are made of pure granite as seen in the pic posted by Mantaz. Granite plates were put on the whole non-glass facade so better don't make stupid assumptions before you actually know something. If you think that it looks like "cocncrete" that doesn't mean it is so. Facades of City plaza look like they are made of green bird shit but I'm not saying that this is the case :laugh:

Now mate, look to these two pics, it's REFLECTIVE, yes, a polished reflective granite! :D


http://img239.exs.cx/img239/6025/vic8dq.jpg

http://img239.exs.cx/img239/6463/vic21nv.jpg

ch1le, as one famous president would say: you missed a good opportunity to stay silent ;)

[Mantas]

Btw, how much did the City Plaza cost and what is its floor area? :)

[delfin_pl]

http://img239.exs.cx/img239/6025/vic8dq.jpg

that is really :okay:

[Edd]

Screenshot of www.palekas.lt - the whole idea:
http://img227.exs.cx/img227/8941/untitled16ek.jpg

There are no photos who show this idea but I think you understand it:
http://img.miestai.net/IMGP0106.JPG

[delfin_pl]

[QUOTE=Edd]Screenshot of www.palekas.lt - the whole idea:
http://img227.exs.cx/img227/8941/untitled16ek.jpg

There are no photos who show this idea but I think you understand it:

@ :) :)

[John]

@Edd
yep, that's the idea of the building and that was my point as I was talking about the architectural idea - a peperclip. :D

This even cannot be compared to Shitty Plaza (is my spelling correct? ;) ok sorry, yet another dumb joke, just couldn't resist) which is just a plain gray box... I don't get what people mean by saying that it's a nice building.
There are nice "boxes" but City Plaza is certainly not one of them and it doesn't even stand on the same level of architecture as Victoria does.

[Edd]

@delfin_pl: Yep, that's the main idea. :D @

[PyRoMaNiAc]

Victoria Tower was built for 7.5 million euros? :eek2:

This small building in Belgrade was built for 10 million euros. Are you guys sure that this figure is correct?

http://www.atrium.co.yu/srpski/slike/news-1-big.jpg

[Edd]

^^^ What's its space? And were parking also built for it? Did construction company rent the office place for themself? Etc. etc. It's impossible to compare prices precisely.

[Geex]

Heh.. you guys are all wrong my commie beats City plaza and Victoria (but i better won't show photos of my commie) :D

Anyway i have some photos of Victoria tower:

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/2788/img80675cm.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/4015/img80687lq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img186.exs.cx/img186/5175/img80722im.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img165.exs.cx/img165/3609/img80738ca.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img165.exs.cx/img165/5758/img80762ih.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[Kommandant Mark]

Pyro....a comparison for you:

Victoria Tower:
Floor area... 6500 m2

Belgrade's Atrium: 13.000 m2, of which 4.000 is for garage space, meaning 9.000m2.

[sdes]

Oh! Thanks for those photos.
It looks much better than ok. :yes:

http://img186.exs.cx/img186/5175/img80722im.jpg
Looks very cool

[delfin_pl]

I'm starting to be jealous looking at this building, would you be so kind and build it in Gdynia for 8 milion Euro? pllizzzz

[Edd]

Thanks Geex, this is all what this thread needed. ;) Maybe you have some photos from further distance too?

[PyRoMaNiAc]

The building is amazing. I love the design. :drool: I especially like how they used granite on the sides.

[Edd]

Pyro....a comparison for you:

Victoria Tower:
Floor area... 6500 m2

Belgrade's Atrium: 13.000 m2, of which 4.000 is for garage space, meaning 9.000m2.
Total floor area of Victoria is 7000 m^2, 6500 m^2 of them are offices. The garage was built earlier and the price of it was not counted in.

[John]

Geex, thanks for these pictures! The ones with the sunset refelction on the side wall are really great :okay:

P.S. ch1le, where are you? :D

[Geex]

^^^ Thanks for good comments about my photos :)

Edd, no i don't have it from distance :(

And i missed one photo :)
http://img56.exs.cx/img56/2906/img8074filtered5ey.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[ch1le]

it is ugly as hell... how cant you see that? it might be granite but it looks like concrete so i dont care, the vent is also buttugly, and it is pretty much a glass box...(like city plaza)It actually kinda reminds me fortum building in Espoo....

[Mantas]

go to hell, we know you are biased :D

[ch1le]

im not biased, i admit it looks very nice :), but saying city plaza is alot worse then that is Total idiotic talk... many think City plaza is prettyest scraper in Tallinn, im one of them...
why just look at it..
http://img142.exs.cx/img142/8351/img21053sp.jpg

[John]

We should make a poll in World skyscrapers and structures forum to see what people think and which building they would prefer. Or perhaps even create a few polls in various forums. :yes:

[Edd]

@Ch1le: Don't be so angry I think John was just joking and you should not take everything too hard. Both high-rises are nice, I like Victoria more, you like City Plaza more but that does not mean that we should "fight". ;) Peace? Afterall this is soo poooointless. :)

[Edd]

Btw IMO Uhisbank in Tallinn is much better than City Plaza. ;)

[John]

im not biased, i admit it looks very nice :), but saying city plaza is alot worse then that is Total idiotic talk... many think City plaza is prettyest scraper in Tallinn, im one of them...

That might be a matter of taste. Although I can't see anything interesting in the architecture of City Plaza, it's very boring (I'm using this term seriously this time), reminds Maakri Maja which is perhaps the only worse looking highrise building in Tallinn's downtown. No architectural idea, facade looks cheap (although I guess it's not really so). I'm not against boxes but this one is just nothing interesting.

And are you saying that it's a better building than let's say Uhispank or Olumpia Hotel in terms of architecture? :|

[Edd]

Information from one article in "Lietuvos Rytas":
Victoria tower was officially opened today. One of the biggest groups in Lithuania "MG Baltic" moved their HQ there. Top two floors at that slimmer part of building were rented for the biggest price in Vilnius - 100 LT/m^2. Yes that slimmer part also contains small offices - one small office per floor with 35 m^2 of space. The building by emporis standarts has 21 floors so John you should change 16 to 21. ;) The exact height of building was not given - it was only said that the taller part of it is "about 80 meters high". In the article it was also written that Victoria is already called as one of the best modern architecture example in Vilnius.
That's it. :)

[Mantas]

They have offices there? Wow :eek:

[Edd]

They have offices there? Wow :eek:
From what I understood those offices are only at top three floors (19-21). The views from there should be stuning (to the old town and NCC):
http://img174.exs.cx/img174/6311/img80738ca8ov.jpg

[Oberleutnant]

Oh! Thanks for those photos.
It looks much better than ok. :yes:

Indeed! :) My opinion about VT has greatly changed for better, after you guys showed us pictures that show the granite side in better way. It's a cool building, alright. Its biggest tragedy is that it's tucked between few taller-than-average-buildings that make it look shorter than it really is

Has its architect done anything else?

[Edd]

Has its architect done anything else?
Reconstruction of Reval Hotel Lietuva, LNK building:
http://img211.exs.cx/img211/3551/untitled17os.jpg

And some more. There is his website: http://www.palekas.lt/index_en.php It is also the author of big Vilnius university library complex which will be U/C (you won't find it in that website but from what I saw in newspapers the project should be quite interesting).

[Edd]

Look what project of residentials for Kaliningrad I found in www.palekas.lt
http://img216.exs.cx/img216/4448/untitled28tz.jpg

[Oberleutnant]

Aciu. :) What's the thing with that riverside project that contains construction along Neris near NCC?

BTW, am I correct that companies see Business Triangle as more interesting place than NCC for their business at the moment?

[Edd]

That riverside project is just an urban idea, ofcourse I hope it'll be realised but it definitely will not be realised fully in near future (if it'll be realised at all ;)).

Yes Business Triangle is considered as no. 1 new business district in Vilnius but I think that not for a long. Business Triangle has no space to expand. Although I noticed that many people in Vilnius does not know what "business triangle" is at all and where it is located, the opposite is with NCC - it is known very well. :)

[YanXenus]

To Ch1le & Mantaz (about fighting around "City plaza" and "Victoria tower")

I don´t consider the CITY PLAZA to be the best landmark of Tallinn.
I so don´t think, that VICTORIA TOWER is the best skriper of Vilnius.
Thats why i don´t see eny reason to compare them here.

I just want to remark one fakt : some buliding looks Ok from enyone ungle, in all conditions (dey/nite/...) for ex. HANNER BUILDING in Vilnius, or ÜHISBANK in Tallinn.

But some ather shows wery diferedly on diferend pictures , so expretion about this depend at picture, wich you see.
CITY PLAZA & VICTORIA TOWER are from this category (by my personal opinion !)

I wasn´t liking CITY PLAZA , before had seen this picture:

http://img185.exs.cx/img185/3775/3274530qk.jpg

[Gatis]

In recent review about highrises in other Baltic states "Latvijas architektura" rated CityPlaza as the best of the highrises in Tallinn. But they did not say anything about Victoria tower (because it was not ready at that moment) :)
Architects many times have a bit specific opinion about beauty. I would not judge myself before seeing them in life.

[vytauc]

Architects many times have a bit specific opinion about beauty.

You are very right here, Gatis ;)