View Full Version : My new neighbourhood, Vålerenga and Etterstad
NorthStar77 February 27th, 2005, 10:01 PM Finally some time to walk around here with my camera in daylight. Be prepared to see some beauty, some grit and some really uninspiring places too;) This thread will be divided into 3 photo-sessions(I think).
Let's start with a photo from my balcony, taken a morning some days ago.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010012.jpg
First a walk through some parts of Vålerenga.
A pedestrian path between where I live and Vålerenga, in horrible shape right now!:rant:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010014.jpg
This abandoned hot-dog stand is aparently an important part of the history of Vålerenga. There are plans to demolish it and build an apartment complex, up to 7 floors high. Some people are against this and say that the hot dog stand should be renovated to former glory. If the apartment project gets built, it will also destroy the view from my apartment abit. So I'll be nimby for once, and say "restore the hot dog stand!!":horse:;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010015.jpg
Typical street at Vålerenga
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010019.jpg
That's right, "Sweden street"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010020.jpg
Local patriotism(For those who don't know, the flag of the football team Vålerenga)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010022.jpg
More "Sweden street"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010024.jpg
Not so typical at Vålerenga, but very typical for Oslo in general
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010026.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010027.jpg
Not everyone has a tidy backyard
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010028.jpg
A fire that occured a few weeks ago. The police are investigating, and they have therefore sealed of the building. It was said to have great historical value.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010029.jpg
Typical Vålerenga again
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010030.jpg
Vålerenga church
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010032.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/kirke.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010035.jpg
Vålerenga children's school. A bad image, but I'll try to make a better one another day. The school is really nice, especially on the other side from where this is taken.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010033.jpg
Geex February 27th, 2005, 10:07 PM Very nice photos and unseen places, i like it! Good job NorthStar77.
And fight for hot dog stand! It's part of history ;)
Monkey February 27th, 2005, 11:09 PM Onto the barricades to save that hot dog stand, folks!!! :guns1:
(and NorthStar's view)
Thank you, NorthStar! :okay: What a lovely place Vålerenga is! :) I like the streets with the 2-story houses best, of course, but the taller old apartment buildings are very handsome as well. It's pleasant to see such large ensembles, undisturbed by intruders. ;)
And so many nice colors! :cool:
I hope you'll be happy in your new home and enjoy it for a long time! :angel1:
DnH February 27th, 2005, 11:59 PM damn, looks like a great little cosy place..
can u give us some info?
population history demographics etc
designwise February 28th, 2005, 12:10 AM Nice Vålerenga pics, Arvid ! I hope they do keep that hot dog stand as it'd be pretty dope when restored. VIF is a pretty good team and they used to have a really good Finnish keeper, Mikko Kavén.
BTW do you guys have a Finland street in Oslo by any chance ? :D
Vålerenga reminds me of the Vallila district of Helsinki :
http://taivasalla.net/2004/2004-10/img/041022_1634.jpg
NorthStar77 February 28th, 2005, 09:06 AM Thanks for all your support to restore "sotahjørnet"(as the hot dog stand is called):D
can u give us some info?
population history demographics etc
Don't know very much about the history of Vålerenga, exept that it used to be a working-class district. It sort of is still, but all kinds of people live here now. It still has some of its charm from those days, with the local football-pubs etc.
About demograpics, I'm not sure. It is part of the district Gamle Oslo. Vålerenga is located exactly under the area that says "bydel Gamle Oslo" on this map:
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26248797.jpg
34.579 people lived in Gamle Oslo 1'st of january 2004. Gamle Oslo is the district that will, by far, grow most the next decade, more than 50%, and will in 2015 have over 52.000 people! This includes Bjørvika, and Kværnerbyen, among other projects. The immigrant-population in "Gamle Oslo" is 11.444 people, wich is almost 30% of the population. As for Vålerenga in particular, I couldn't find any population statistics. But Vålerenga school has 450 pupils, and given that children age 6-12 make up 6% of the population in Gamle Oslo, then some 7500 people would be a rough estimate.
BTW do you guys have a Finland street in Oslo by any chance ? :D
I'm sorry no:( But I found a Denmark street, later on, as you will see:)
Here comes more of Vålerenga, first some pictures taken from the hill that the church is on.
Looking towards Ekebergskrenten
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010036.jpg
Towards the city
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010037.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010042.jpg
Where the priest lives, notice he also has the Vålerenga flag out, as always.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010043.jpg
Towards Ekebergskrenten once more
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010044.jpg
Started walking again
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010045.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010046.jpg
The other direction
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010050.jpg
Up until the 80'ies, all of this traffic ran through Vålerenga(this is sunday afternoon traffic). This had a devastating effect on parts of Vålerenga, as you will see later.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010048.jpg
The location for the new Kværnerbyen, that will when finished have 1800 apartments.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010049.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010051.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010053.jpg
Looking over towards Kampen, another wooden house district. Training field for Vålerenga is to the right of this picture.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010054.jpg
This wooden building in front is the last remaining of the old houses in Strømsveien, where all traffic used to go through before. All houses along the street was abandoned when traffic was at its worst. The owner of this house is intentionally making it deteriorate so it will be in a state beyond repair. The plan is to build a 6 floor high apartment complex.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010056.jpg
Jordal junior highschool
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010057.jpg
Some of the local bars
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010059.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010061.jpg
Sorry danes, but this was the only photo I took of "denmark street":(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010063.jpg
Last session coming up later today, probably.
AtlanticaC5 February 28th, 2005, 08:44 PM Great thread! Vålerenga looks like a nice area (except for the few abandoned buildings), and your view looks great! Whatever happens, you'll have us fellow SSC:ers on your side against that planned 7-story building, long live Sotahjørnet!! :banana::pepper:
DenverDane February 28th, 2005, 09:22 PM Thanks, NorthStar77. I like your new neighborhood and so close to downtown!
Yes, save the hot dog stand!! ;)
Funny how so many skyscraper fans now want to save a 2.5 m tall hot dog stand! :weird: :D
Maybe we're all NIMBYs after all... :|
Þróndeimr February 28th, 2005, 09:51 PM Wonderful images of a really nice nabourhood.
Concerning Hot Dog, it would be really nice to restore it to its old glory. You send me article with a render, an i can't say the planns was that impressive, though the renders was really bad. But i also see some other houses they should improve as much as the hot dog! :)
sander February 28th, 2005, 09:59 PM Nice pics! Very pleasant district...http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010030.jpg
Buildings are nice and this grit doesn`t look very bad, because it`s not caused by poorness, but because of disregard and lazyness ;) , but anyhow everything can`t be perfect.
Oberleutnant February 28th, 2005, 10:01 PM ^
Most skyscraper fans are actually very NIMBYistic when it comes to old buildings or things like that. :) There's little NIMBY in every one of us.
@ Arvid
I already said this to you in MSN, but I'll say this again here, even it's very old fashioned and used saying: great pics! Unless I knew better, I wouldn't be able to say that they were taken next to the city center of the Norwegian capital city. Very cozy.
NorthStar77 February 28th, 2005, 11:28 PM Thanks everybody!
And since this hot dog stand called Sotahjørnet has become such a hot topic here, I might aswell show the render of the proposed project. What I think is bad with it, is that it will be a massive wall on 5-7 floors, that will jeopardise most of my view to the fjord.
http://www.etterstad.no/sota6b.jpg
Might aswell show the rest of the pictures, of Etterstad, where I really live. I started with Vålerenga to make the thread more interesting;)
Etterstad is just really a large area directly east of Vålerenga, with lots and lots of ordinary apartment-buildings, build from the early 50'ies and until now. Infact there are more buildings under construction as we speak. In the middle of Etterstad is a park, and all of Etterstad is really quiet, and maybe abit boring;) I live nearest possible to Vålerenga though, only some 200 meters to walk.
First, Etterstad kolonihage(alotment gardens). They have now got new neighbours in these apartment-buildings called Øvre Vålerenga made during the last year, something the alotment garden owners are not too pleased with.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010065.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010066.jpg
More apartment buildings, made in 1957 and renovated in 1994.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010068.jpg
Etterstad highschool, located directly in front of my building
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010069.jpg
Seeing part of the office-park Helsfyr
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010070.jpg
I live here, at the upper floor, with no curtains yet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010071.jpg
Just to show you how boring this area can be, here are the types of buildings I live in from air
http://www.etterstadnord.no/enord2.jpg
From the path outside my building, seeing towards Vålerenga, and Øvre Vålerenga in front. The highschool is expanding.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010072.jpg
The types of buildings that are on the southern side of the park
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010073.jpg
And to the east, there are some 4 of these. Why on earth did they paint them green??
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010074.jpg
In front, the type of balconies I will get one of soon. In the back, one of the office-buildings at Helsfyr beeing renovated.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010077.jpg
What could have been a good picture.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010078.jpg
The local mini-skyline at Helsfyr, with 17 floors/60 meters Helsyr panorama as a climax.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010080.jpg
Þróndeimr February 28th, 2005, 11:36 PM Nice, its easy to see much construction is been done especally around Helsfyr.
_alonso_ February 28th, 2005, 11:49 PM hmm, I always thought that Vålerenga is not treated as a part of Oslo..:runaway:
still, Brann forever:D
NorthStar77 March 1st, 2005, 12:11 AM Hey, new norwegian forumer, how nice. Welcome to you:):cheers1:
hmm, I always thought that Vålerenga is not treated as a part of Oslo..:runaway:
What made you think that? Vålerenga is as much part of Oslo as any other part. In general though, people living on the westside of town have an inherited sceptisism towards eastenders, and vice versa, and I think it will always be like that.
Anyway, Vålerenga is the most popular team in Oslo. Lyn is only for rich daddy boys, and struggles to get a few thousand suit-dressed people to their home-matches:D
bardez March 2nd, 2005, 01:15 AM hi, I got sent the link to this thread, and thought I'd post a pic I took tonight of Teisen, which is about 5 minutes walk from Helsfyr (and overlooks Ring 3)
:)
http://www.soccer24-7.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15960&stc=1
skog March 2nd, 2005, 01:48 AM Just a few things:
I really dont understand why people want to protect that old hotdog stand at Sotahjørnet. It is absolutely hideous, and it is not the original building that the sports club Vålerenga IF was founded in.
Still the idea of a 7 floor building there is a bad idea i think.
The politicans neglected this area for many years, as was most of the inner eastern city, despite it having a fairly dense population.
The E6 (Main highway thru Norway) actually went right through the area. As NorthStar pointed out, it had the area in a chokehold. There were protests, one can even be seen today, painted on the side of an old wooden protected building. (Green one, opposite Vertshuset, NorthStar).
What made the politicians finally get a move on was when a bus went off the road, smashed right through a wooden building and killed a sleeping elderly woman.
Nowadays it's an area where a LOT of people would like to live, but many (like me) can't afford.
I found some old pictures from the area at the local history society's website:
http://home.c2i.net/vaalhist/images/0231vhl.jpg
This man was a blacksmith.
http://home.c2i.net/vaalhist/images/0195vhl.jpg
NorthStar77 March 2nd, 2005, 08:59 AM Holymoly!!! Two new users from Oslo at once, that is too good to be true! A huge welcome to both of you!:cheers1:
Thanks, skog for telling more of the story behind moving E6 out of Vålerenga. I was probably just a little boy living in Kristiansand when that happened, and not so interested in these things.
Vålerenga have become very popular and expencive, true. But just across the road, at Etterstad, it's much cheaper! Funny how a name can be that important:)
And I don't care about that sotahjørnet eigther, to be honest, but I want to keep my view:D
There were protests, one can even be seen today, painted on the side of an old wooden protected building. (Green one, opposite Vertshuset, NorthStar).
Yeah, I noticed it here the other day. I should have photographed it!
@bardez: do you live at Teisen? Any chance you will take more photos?
bardez March 2nd, 2005, 09:25 AM Holymoly!!! Two new users from Oslo at once, that is too good to be true! A huge welcome to both of you!:cheers1:
Thanks, skog for telling more of the story behind moving E6 out of Vålerenga. I was probably just a little boy living in Kristiansand when that happened, and not so interested in these things.
Vålerenga have become very popular and expencive, true. But just across the road, at Etterstad, it's much cheaper! Funny how a name can be that important:)
And I don't care about that sotahjørnet eigther, to be honest, but I want to keep my view:D
Yeah, I noticed it here the other day. I should have photographed it!
@bardez: do you live at Teisen? Any chance you will take more photos?
cheers, it was Skog who pointed me here (I assume from the Vålerenga link!). I'm still having a nose around to see what goes off here :) :cheers:
Geex March 2nd, 2005, 09:42 AM Nice, i really enjoyed seeing so many photos from previously unseen places, please continue :)
_alonso_ March 2nd, 2005, 11:00 AM Hey, new norwegian forumer, how nice. Welcome to you:):cheers1:
viva Norge:cheers1:
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