Rubber Town West Louisville's toxic haven ..part 2..the photos..

[Soulbrotha]

check out part one (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=185658)

i took most of these photos today.

http://www.pbase.com/soulbrotha4620/image/40292305/original.jpg

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NICE TREES lol
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[Lakelander]

Where's the neighborhood, in relation to these plants? I couldn't find them on the aerial.

[Soulbrotha]

try this one...rubber town is in the lower left hand side

http://www.pbase.com/soulbrotha4620/image/32259933/original

[jase8]

this should be the city of louisville's #1 priority.

these photos are fantastic. but, the real story is the people who have lived in this area for years, and are having health problems as a result.

this area, riverport, provides so many jobs for the area, that nobody says anything. but, it is a problem, and will be delt with soon, i hope.

[jmancuso]

the last two are money shots but all are pretty damn good.

[Soulbrotha]

thats rubbertown for ya

[Soulbrotha]

some photos i found, i didn't take these ones, just found them on google.

my rubbertown gallery has gotten close to 1200 hits since i create dit.
http://www.pbase.com/soulbrotha4620/louisville_rubbertown

http://members.iglou.com/aaronf/react/renee.jpg
http://members.iglou.com/aaronf/react/DSC00477.JPG
http://members.iglou.com/aaronf/react/dup1.jpg
http://members.iglou.com/aaronf/react/relo.jpg
http://members.iglou.com/aaronf/react/prot1.jpg

[SChristopher]

How bout dont live by factories

[Soulbrotha]

How about don't build factories where people live...which do you think was there first Einstein?

[SChristopher]

LOL the factories have been there a while....boo ... make some dinero and MOVE LOL

[Soulbrotha]

LOL the factories have been there a while....boo ... make some dinero and MOVE LOL


Easy for you to say, mister moved out a 14, got a brick house and a 03 jeep.

People have houses to pay off, people have kids, people have illnesses, yes cancer is caused by these factories...and you're just telling them to "raise some dinero and move out?" You have no logic.

And I can gurantee those homes have been there longer than those factories.

[SChristopher]

I give them all a whine... blah

[Soulbrotha]

I give them all a whine... blah

I bet you do.

[SChristopher]

OH and as a cardinal (no pun intended LOL) rule dont have kids and expect the state or country to pay for them.

[Soulbrotha]

OH and as a cardinal (no pun intended LOL) rule dont have kids and expect the state or country to pay for them.


Oh and when did anyone say anything about someone having the city and state pay for their kids? If these plants are sickening people to the point that they can't work, then you bet you're ass the city or state is going to pay after they get taken to court.

[SChristopher]

Yeah just like a lazy bum would say 'Im gunna sue u bich' HAHAHAHHAHAH .. kentucky!

I was referring to your ignorant statement about peopel having kids etc.......if your gonna have kids, dont live near a factory thats been there then complain about it. LOL


I decided that I dont like that I live within 30 miles of a river even though I bought this house I AM GONNA SUE! Get a life losers.

[Soulbrotha]

Yeah just like a lazy bum would say 'Im gunna sue u bich' HAHAHAHHAHAH .. kentucky!

I was referring to your ignorant statement about peopel having kids etc.......if your gonna have kids, dont live near a factory thats been there then complain about it. LOL


I decided that I dont like that I live within 30 miles of a river even though I bought this house I AM GONNA SUE! Get a life losers.

Yes, I said "People have houses to pay off, people have kids, people have illnesses, yes cancer is caused by these factories...and you're just telling them to "raise some dinero and move out?" These are the situations most people in this area find themselves...don't even try to compare you're supposed story to theirs. You've never had four kids, so don't act like you know whats its like to have to provide for them and maintain a house at the same time.

And again here you go, back to square one. These factories where built after these homes. People shouldn't have to move anywhere. The factories should improve their emmisions so they would cause so much sickness.

[Soulbrotha]

Yeah just like a lazy bum would say 'Im gunna sue u bich' HAHAHAHHAHAH .. kentucky!

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Calling people who get cancer from factories "a lazy bum" is lower than low. They deserve every cent they get, because first of all factories aren't supposed to produce emmisions that cause cancer in the first place. So they are at fault anyway you look at it.

[Soulbrotha]

Oh, guess what? It's morning....off to school...count your post count while i'm gone, i think you added a couple hundred in the last 5 hours..you should be proud.

[SChristopher]

If I had four kids I sure would provide for them ( Id have the means before I did the neighborhood) (maybe you forgot how kids are made...haha you can use google like you do for everything else) and wouldnt fuck like a bunny to make money LOL...

If I was planning on being a ho or getting married and having four kids I wouldnt live next to a plant...these plants arent sprouting up Abdul...LOL.

Not to mention these factories arent causing these 250 dollar a month rental people illness within months.......and id like to talk to someone PERSONALLY who cant WORK coz of a factory in LOUISVILLE HAHHAHAHAHAH gimme a break abdul

[Soulbrotha]

If I had four kids I sure would provide for them

You have cancer.

[SChristopher]

Calling people who get cancer from factories "a lazy bum" is lower than low. They deserve every cent they get, because first of all factories aren't supposed to produce emmisions that cause cancer in the first place. So they are at fault anyway you look at it.

Awww boo hoo I guess I am heartless because I dont care...I am not stupid or lazy enough to live near such a facility abdul queef

[SChristopher]

You have cancer.

I smoke and drink, someday I prolly will but I sure wiont blame it on people LOL...lord

[SChristopher]

Oh, guess what? It's morning....off to school...count your post count while i'm gone, i think you added a couple hundred in the last 5 hours..you should be proud.


Yes I sure care about that...maybe that is waht poor unemployed photo takers of garbage woo about but not I ...thanks though :)

[Soulbrotha]

Awww boo hoo I guess I am heartless because I dont care...I am not stupid or lazy enough to live near such a facility abdul queef

....unfortunatly this is an argument you can't win. Life and death is no joke. People have no choice but to stay, no one can up and move out of a house, when they don't have the means. And you can hypothetically say what you would do, or what you wouldn't do, but untill you actually walk in those peoples shoes...Zip it.

[SChristopher]

Calling people who get cancer from factories "a lazy bum" is lower than low. They deserve every cent they get, because first of all factories aren't supposed to produce emmisions that cause cancer in the first place. So they are at fault anyway you look at it.

Jobs cause emissions.... cars cause emissions, bus;s cause emissions...your beloved thunder over Louisville causes emissions .. whats your point abdul.

[SChristopher]

LOL if those people had jobs they could move end of story.

[Soulbrotha]

maybe that is waht poor unemployed photo takers of garbage

Pitcures of Garbage? You give T.I.'s song a whole new meaning..

you don't know me...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=145398
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=135569

Show me what else you've done on this website, that has nothing to do with running your mouth....

Admit it, without me your last 5 hours of life would have been pretty lame.... in your brick house.

[Soulbrotha]

Jobs cause emissions.... cars cause emissions, bus;s cause emissions...your beloved thunder over Louisville causes emissions .. whats your point abdul.


The he point is, factories in rubbertown cause cancer in the west end on a scale that those other things don't.

[SChristopher]

HAHAHA they really have been pretty lame talking to your as about how eveyone should feed you with their hands..... at least I am safe in my suburb surrounded by WHITE PEOPLE and my rich car and my great job tha pays me wow I am so LUCKY...NOT...LOL


HOURS...OURS lol......ask your teacher mom...matybe she is the reason why the bitches in the west end are killers and dumbasses?

[Soulbrotha]

HAHAHA they really have been pretty lame talking to your as about how eveyone should feed you with their hands..... at least I am safe in my suburb surrounded by WHITE PEOPLE and my rich car and my great job tha pays me wow I am so LUCKY...NOT...LOL


HOURS...OURS lol......ask your teacher mom...matybe she is the reason why the bitches in the west end are killers and dumbasses?

you have a rich car? where does he bank?

[SChristopher]

BTW you showed me pics of DT which you reject development towards and OH downtown...wtf is your point...

[Soulbrotha]

BTW you showed me pics of DT which you reject development towards and OH downtown...wtf is your point...


Well, you did say i take pictures of garbage, so I guess Louisville is garbage....good day....

[SChristopher]

Awwww tubby if puns were your specialty maybe you wouldnt be in the ghetto wishing for a nice kroger LOL

[Soulbrotha]

Awwww tubby if [puns were your specialty maybe you wouldnt be in the ghetto wiching for a nice kroger LOL

Yeah, tubby like smith.

Nice job trying to edit...too late though...

[SChristopher]

Well, you did say i take pictures of garbage, so I guess Louisville is garbage....good day....

No you say that DT is a bunk investment and we should invest in the GHETTO LOL. Yet all you take pics of is the beautiful skyline. But alot of your threads used to center araound the garbagy yards of the west end. BTW the search feature is gone so dont tell me to search LOL.

[SChristopher]

OOOOOOF course this coming from the dude who thinks bashford manor and showcase louisville is in the highlands LOL

[Soulbrotha]

No you say that DT is a bunk investment and we should invest in the GHETTO LOL. Yet all you take pics of is the beautiful skyline. But alot of your threads used to center araound the garbagy yards of the west end. BTW the search feature is gone so dont tell me to search LOL.

Search....

[Soulbrotha]

OOOOOOF course this coming from the dude who thinks bashford manor and showcase louisville is in the highlands LOL

You got me...guilty as charged...

[SChristopher]

LOL you can one up me by telling me to search but I am not the one desparate for a mall .


And yes I do have you I have lived here less than three years and kno the difference from the highlands and drug cheap land territory :)

[Soulbrotha]

LOL you can one up me by telling me to search but I am not the one desparate for a mall .


And yes I do have you I have lived here less than three years and kno the difference from the highlands and drug cheap land territory :)

Search......You know a lot....but you don't know kno.

[Soulbrotha]

If i stopped replying right now, i bet you'd fall into a deep depression because you'd have no one to talk to.

[SChristopher]

Blah

[Bobdreamz]

these are horrible personal attacks SChristopher.

[Jeff]

I think the second to last shot is Algonquin Parkway?


Ah, Rubbertown...that distinctive aroma of cooking neoprene. So they finally proved this stuff causes cancer, huh? One has to wonder, too, about all the people who worked there.

I recall visiting relatives in Shively as a kid (when I was living in Chicago) and smelling that stuff for the first time. They had this sort of mini -farm on Dover Road. I had no idea what it was and aksed my uncle what the smell was. My uncle said it was "bluegrass".

There are real issues of "environmental discrimination" in Louisville. I bet no one remembers when they tried to put a toxic waste incinerator in Valley Station. Or LG&Es Mill Creek plant's "toxic fallout" problem in Valley Villiage, or the way they slipped heavy industry zoning into the northern end of Riverport to permit Rubbertown to extend south (it didnt, but that was the idea at the time).

[Soulbrotha]

Yes, thats Algonqiun, right before it turns into southwestern parkway.

The workers aren't really exsposed to the same amount of toxicity residents are. I mean they work indoors for one, and the residents use the water that is polluted, and breath that air outside everyday.

[Jeff]

Yeah, but you'd expect some exposure issues, still.

I would like to hear more about the water issues. Are some of those areas still on wells (like Campground Road, Bells Lane, the more semi-rural areas around Rubbertown?)

That area has had a history of industrial accidents, too. There was a bad explosion and fire in the 1960s, and one of those industrial sludge tailings piles collapsed and slid down over Bells Lane...imagine being buried alive in toxic industrial sludge. Sounds like a bad sci-fi flick.

Serioulsy, It is good to hear that they are finally addressing Rubbertown as an environmental issue. About time.

[Soulbrotha]

Well maybe I was wrong, it does effect workers as well.
http://www.courier-journal.com/cjextra/2003projects/toxicair/1026/2wir-5-vc1026-11490.html

As far as water goes, I know for a fact that the fish in the Chickasaw Pond have proven to cause cancer. There are signs all over that park telling people not to touch those fish. It wasn't always like that, i remember when I was younger you could fish in chickasaw pond all the time, so thats gotten worse over the years.

it's not just rubbertown, but its also the factories directly across the river, I don't know what this plant is called, but its right across the river from Shawnee PArk.
http://www.louisville.com/loumag/images/december-02/powerplant.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/soulbrotha4620/image/35548855.jpg

It just constantly blows out this extremly black smoke.

here are some articles.
http://www.louisville.com/loumagdisplay.html?article=11562

you can test the air quality all over the city here
http://208.249.124.184/EJP2/Air_Quality/Database/
The numbers marked in red did not met the Minimum Quantitation Limit (MQL) of the specified chemical.
Check the southwick community center. I used to play over there when i was younger. Thats where the new parkduvalle is located.
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Air monitors placed in western Louisville and Otter Creek Park in Meade County and at the University of Louisville's Shelby Campus in eastern Jefferson County have detected at least 18 chemicals at levels that could increase residents' cancer risks or cause other health problems over decades of exposure, a computer-assisted analysis by the newspaper shows

At the levels measured between May 2000 and May 2001 at one western Louisville location on Camp Ground Road, butadiene could produce an additional two to 24 cancer cases among 10,000 people — a risk that some experts described as alarming. The EPA last year classified butadiene as a human carcinogen in part after determining it caused cancer such as leukemia in rubber workers in Ohio.

Samplings taken since October 2001 at six sites, including at 4211 Camp Ground Road, show that butadiene levels continue to exceed three EPA health-based thresholds and may have risen in the past two years.
At Cane Run Elementary School, near Rubbertown, average butadiene readings were 14 to 125 times as high as three EPA health thresholds. A health threshold is the point at which the EPA says people run an unacceptable risk of cancer or other illnesses. At the school, the maximum exposure to butadiene was projected to be 29 to 261 times as high as the EPA's health thresholds.

At Farnsley Middle School, west of Shively, the maximum exposure to butadiene was projected to be up to 540 times as high as the EPA's health thresholds.
Butadiene and at least four other chemicals detected at various monitors — trichloroethylene, acrylonitrile, vinyl chloride and chloroform — were 10 to 1,000 times higher than what the EPA estimates as typical for an urban area, according to a separate analysis conducted for The Courier-Journal by a Carnegie Mellon University environmental engineering professor, Mitchell Small, and Ph.D. graduate student, Amit Goyal. "It appears that Louisville has significant hot spots for hazardous air pollutants that should be more closely examined," Small said.
Arnita Gadson hopes the study can be used to improve the quality of life.

Last October, EPA scientists in Atlanta ranked Louisville-Jefferson County first among 736 counties in eight southeastern states for health risks from hazardous air pollutants.

The Courier-Journal obtained the air pollution monitoring data from the Louisville Metro Air Pollution Control District through a Kentucky open records law request. It comes from an ongoing $1.5 million hazardous air pollutants study expected to be released soon by the West Jefferson County Community Task Force, a nonprofit group with supporters from West End neighborhoods, industry, the air pollution district, and the University of Louisville's Institute for the Environment and Sustainable Development.

"Residents felt they were being ignored," said Arnita Gadson, executive director of the task force. Gadson said that while most of the public concern centers around the West End, the task force hopes to use the upcoming report to improve the quality of life for all Jefferson County residents.

Kenneth Mitchell, who directs the EPA's regional Risk and Exposure Assessment Group in Atlanta, said that the task force's report on Louisville air quality may yield different results from what the newspaper found.

"It appears the risk (from butadiene) is high," acknowledged Mitchell, one of the advisers to the study. "But we need to re-evaluate the data with more robust statistics to see whether (the risks) are still high," he said, adding: "We don't want to scare people."

But Art Williams, director of the air pollution district, said he does not expect the draft data given to The Courier-Journal from the 13 monitors to change much because it had been approved by a committee of advisers with representatives from government, industry and citizen groups.

Read whole article (http://www.protectingourhealth.org/press/2003/2003-0512-LCJ-exceedlimits.htm)

[card04]

How far is considered hazardous to live by these factories. I gotta side with soul on this, these factories should'nt be producing cancer causing chemicals. This is where the government should come in and do something. If people are dying because of these factories, it is a case where the families should get money, from the companies. I personally don't understand why you put a factory like these in such a dense area. Personally I think the government should put it's foot down and tell these factories to either get pollution down to a healthy level, or close them down. Sure they provide jobs, but theres a point where a line has to be drawn. Schris, if these people aren't making that much money in the first place, what makes you think they can simply get up and move. Just because they're poor doesn't make them lazy either, I'm sure most the people in this area have jobs, not very high paying ones obviously, they probably aren't that educated, but should that be a death sentence. You should consider yourself lucky to be in the position you are in to be able to afford all that you just mentioned. You shouldn't however put those down, who aren't a fortunate as you. I agree with you, personally I say that you should work for what you have, and not expect government hand-me-downs just because you made some bad choices, yet I do not believe people should have to live in these type of conditions.

[SChristopher]

Yes I was very off base and hasty with many of my comments and I appologize.

[Jeff]

it's not just rubbertown, but its also the factories directly across the river, I don't know what this plant is called, but its right across the river from Shawnee PArk.

What it is is a coal fired powerplant or looks like one.

And the black smoke is telling me that it would probably fail a Ringelmann opacity rating in California, or probably anywhere else...that smoke is a sign of excess particulates caused by inefficient combustion, meaning either the boiler or the pollution control equipment or both is malfunctioning.

If its doing that constantly the plant has problems, and the regulator (either the EPA or the Indiana regulator) is looking the other way...or they got some sort of waiver to emissions standards.

[i_am_hydrogen]

After reading this thread, I'm disgusted by you, SChristopher. Mocking and trivializing the plight of poor people who are being sickened by factory emissions--how low can you sink? You have the audacity to blame these people instead of placing the blame on the factory's owners for their negligence and reckless disregard for the environment and the health of nearby residents.

It's not a coincidence that these plants are located in low-income neighborhoods. If something like Rubber Town were proposed in more affluent areas, it wouldn't stand a f*cking chance of being built--the NIMBYs would be on it like flies on sh*t. But instead, these dangerous and unseemly buildings are relegated to areas where poverty is concentrated and, as a consequence, political power is too weak to mount any effective opposition.

Do you honestly believe that these people would live near these factories if they could afford to move out? Of course NOT!! So don't downplay the significance of their poverty. It's real. It's not something that can easily be shed--it's not a simple matter of going out and making some money, you naive fool--or else these people would be long gone, not protesting outside their homes for relocation programs, inhaling deadly toxins.

Man... All I can really do is shake my head is disbelief. You're almost sub-human.

[Soulbrotha]

If I had four kids I sure would provide for them ( Id have the means before I did the neighborhood) (maybe you forgot how kids are made...haha you can use google like you do for everything else) and wouldnt fuck like a bunny to make money LOL...

If I was planning on being a ho or getting married and having four kids I wouldnt live next to a plant...these plants arent sprouting up Abdul...LOL.

Not to mention these factories arent causing these 250 dollar a month rental people illness within months.......and id like to talk to someone PERSONALLY who cant WORK coz of a factory in LOUISVILLE HAHHAHAHAHAH gimme a break abdul


Yes, he is an idiot...the shit he posted is undebatable, because its so stupid.

[raqoff25]

Is that not the Gallagher station the article was talking about? Gallagher is the plant that produces the heaviest pollution of all the power plants near Louisville

[i_am_hydrogen]

Where the hell is SChristopher with his big mouth? Man, I'll be on you from this point, everything you say, I'm gonna be on you.

[Soulbrotha]

I think he was just running his mouth because no one else was around. We were up from like 10:00 p.m. to 9:00 a.m the next morning arguing (i'm an idiot for that). And then when someone else saw what he was saying he finally shut the fuck up and tried to apologize.

[Soulbrotha]

wow, this threads still here?...this is why i hate SChristoper's guts

[SChristopher]

Whatever bitch, hop back on the tarc and go pick up some food stamps, mama needs some chitlins.

[ATL2PHX]

SChristopher...no matter how you slice it, you're clearly an idiot!

[wrldcoupe4]

pretty sad that ssc allows ignorant personal attacks like that

[great prairie]

umm.. they pollute/destroy the environment whether or not people are living there... what the fuck is your problem? these plants are awful... factories shouldn't have a zone of cancer/horrible air quality around them, these people have every right to be pissed.

[louisville playa]

Whatever bitch, hop back on the tarc and go pick up some food stamps, mama needs some chitlins.
You little SOB why don't you come on down to the west end and tell them this shit and you will get that ass booted on back to L.A.
Boy discrimate in the worst way possible THE SMARTASS KNOW IT ALL WAY, You think that everybody in the West can just pack up and move to the suburbs, But some can't. I mean there ain't nothing wrong with expressing yourself, But that shit is taking it to far. It's easy for you in the suburbs to talk about how easy it is to get there YOU'RE ALREADY THERE.

And another thing we love chitlins it's a Southern if you can't stand the smell then take you yo rich ass back to L.A.

[louisville playa]

HAHAHA they really have been pretty lame talking to your as about how eveyone should feed you with their hands..... at least I am safe in my suburb surrounded by WHITE PEOPLE and my rich car and my great job tha pays me wow I am so LUCKY...NOT...LOL


HOURS...OURS lol......ask your teacher mom...matybe she is the reason why the bitches in the west end are killers and dumbasses?

You know I only read the 3rd page of this at first but after going back and reading this entire thing, Scris you're are an AssHole I have little respect for your bitch ass from this point on.
Boy I wish you would brang yo punk Ass on down to West End and talk all that shit.
And we the West enders are the real citizens who make up "real Louisville". We were the culture we were the stats so we own that glamorous skyline not your suburban rich Ass.

[SChristopher]

You guys are too damn fun. ;) Keep at it!

[Soulbrotha]

beleive me you wouldn't last a second fast to face with me http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[eweezerinc]

Is that a threat!? :O *hide*

If you guys hadn't noticed, Schris appoligized several post back.

Yes I was very off base and hasty with many of my comments and I appologize.

And you completely ignored it.

[eweezerinc]

You know I only read the 3rd page of this at first but after going back and reading this entire thing, Scris you're are an AssHole I have little respect for your bitch ass from this point on.
Boy I wish you would brang yo punk Ass on down to West End and talk all that shit.
And we the West enders are the real citizens who make up "real Louisville". We were the culture we were the stats so we own that glamorous skyline not your suburban rich Ass.

"Yo punk ass" and the rest of the west end sure as hell didn't provide the big bucks to build any of that skyline so you can be quiet about that.
And even before merger, the west end was far from Louisville's culture and stats. Maybe it's poverty stats. I'm sorry to sound like an ass, but it's just the fruggin truth.

[louisville playa]

"Yo punk ass" and the rest of the west end sure as hell didn't provide the big bucks to build any of that skyline so you can be quiet about that.
And even before merger, the west end was far from Louisville's culture and stats. Maybe it's poverty stats. I'm sorry to sound like an ass, but it's just the fruggin truth.

hell I'm gettin sick of all yall out towners thinking yall know everything about Louisville. No "Sweetums" it's not some gay friendly northern city that will accept self expression, Hell no it's the opposite and I'm pretty sure you know that.
Sweet pea you need to shut yo frutty ass on up, b/c we all know that yall bitch asses won't dare go to the west end and talk all the shit yall talkin behind yall little computer screen (bot I would really love to see that damn SCris out there talking all that shit).
Secondly The the West end is Louisville's culture, I mean before merger we owned downtown Louisville and everythang else, Hell the truth is before 4th street came back yall asses was to scared to come downtown b/c yall all thought that it was a dangerous lawless god forsaken land with all it's drug dealers and what not.
But yall seem to forget about all the hard workin people in the West End tryin to make an honest living. But naw yall punk asses just group us all together as a bunch of ghetto thugs without even botherin to find the truth.
Can you blame Soul for showing the other side of "Loovul" the side that everybody tries to cover up, I no I can't.

[Soulbrotha]

Is that a threat!? :O *hide*



no, thats a fact. you never know SChristopher might be a stalker, and dumb enough to show up at my front door one day.

[louisville playa]

Is that a threat!? :O *hide*

If you guys hadn't noticed, Schris appoligized several post back.



And you completely ignored it.
The only damn reason he apoligized was because "someone else" told him he dead wrong. He just apoligized so everybody wouldn't jump all over him. But he posted to many ignant ass comments to have some 4 word uncsincere apology.

[eweezerinc]

hell I'm gettin sick of all yall out towners thinking yall know everything about Louisville. No "Sweetums" it's not some gay friendly northern city that will accept self expression, Hell no it's the opposite and I'm pretty sure you know that.
Sweet pea you need to shut yo frutty ass on up, b/c we all know that yall bitch asses won't dare go to the west end and talk all the shit yall talkin behind yall little computer screen (bot I would really love to see that damn SCris out there talking all that shit).
Secondly The the West end is Louisville's culture, I mean before merger we owned downtown Louisville and everythang else, Hell the truth is before 4th street came back yall asses was to scared to come downtown b/c yall all thought that it was a dangerous lawless god forsaken land with all it's drug dealers and what not.
But yall seem to forget about all the hard workin people in the West End tryin to make an honest living. But naw yall punk asses just group us all together as a bunch of ghetto thugs without even botherin to find the truth.
Can you blame Soul for showing the other side of "Loovul" the side that everybody tries to cover up, I no I can't.

Get over it. All I said was the west end was poor. I didn't say anything about the people who live there.

AND YOU CAN SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT MY SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
You crossed the line. You are an asshole. And you should just stop it right here.
If all you guys on the west end don't accept gays, that's your fucking problem. But that isn't all of Louisville. There are way more people outside of the west end. And actually, you are one of the few people I have EVER run into with in Louisville that has said ANYTHING about my sexual orientation. I can count the incidents on my right hand.
You have little class in my eyes. I would never hold something like your race against you. Why should you not treat me the same? Yes, it IS the same idea, no matter what you feel or believe. You shot really low.


BTW Soul, Schris is not a stalker. His name is Jeremy and he's a really good friend of mine. hah I dunno if he would ever come around your doorstep though.

[louisville playa]

"Yo punk ass" and the rest of the west end sure as hell didn't provide the big bucks to build any of that skyline so you can be quiet about that.
And even before merger, the west end was far from Louisville's culture and stats. Maybe it's poverty stats. I'm sorry to sound like an ass, but it's just the fruggin truth.

Also where did it come from "jefferson co." before merger hell no we paid for that glamorous skyline buddy not yall J-TOWN suburban asses who got shivers down yall spine at the thought of coming downtown. Think about it why the hell would anti downtown Jefferson Co. fund post merger downtown projects it makes no damn since and you know that. I mean face it we ran real Louisville and owned that glamorous skyline. Yeah it was declining before merger but we gave OUR city all the flavorings that it has now. We might not have been the richest city, But we did some spectacular things without yalls "Big Bucks" so you need to get on somewhere with that surburban funding BS.

[louisville playa]

Get over it. All I said was the west end was poor. I didn't say anything about the people who live there.

AND YOU CAN SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT MY SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
You crossed the line. You are an asshole. And you should just stop it right here.
If all you guys on the west end don't accept gays, that's your fucking problem. But that isn't all of Louisville. There are way more people outside of the west end. And actually, you are one of the few people I have EVER run into with in Louisville that has said ANYTHING about my sexual orientation. I can count the incidents on my right hand.
You have little class in my eyes. I would never hold something like your race against you. Why should you not treat me the same? Yes, it IS the same idea, no matter what you feel or believe. You shot really low.


BTW Soul, Schris is not a stalker. His name is Jeremy and he's a really good friend of mine. hah I dunno if he would ever come around your doorstep though.

Yeah well SCRIS got me holding my stomach right now from his bitch ass comments made earlier and in my eyes he is one of those big shot know it all Ass Holes. I found it insulting when he just assumes that Soul is on Food Stamps ridin the Tarc as his only mode of transportation. That gives the impression he thinks all west enders live like that. And it's insulting and I ain't about to stand for that.

[eweezerinc]

It does not matter. If he said something nasty, that has nothing to do with me, how I feel, what I believe, or the way I treat people.
You tried to attack me with my personal life. It was extremely inconciderate of you.

Also where did it come from "jefferson co." before merger hell no we paid for that glamorous skyline buddy not yall J-TOWN suburban asses who got shivers down yall spine at the thought of coming downtown. Think about it why the hell would anti downtown Jefferson Co. fund post merger downtown projects it makes no damn since and you know that. I mean face it we ran real Louisville and owned that glamorous skyline. Yeah it was declining before merger but we gave OUR city all the flavorings that it has now. We might not have been the richest city, But we did some spectacular things without yalls "Big Bucks" so you need to get on somewhere with that surburban funding BS.


I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Shall I reitterate?
The west end isn't exactly high-payroll. Low income = little tax money for government

I'm really done talking to you.

I think that the situation with Rubbertown is unfortunate. The company needs to pay for all of those people to be relocated until their living conditions are no longer hazardous. It is not right that the company emitted something that could be so dangerous and devastating to people's lives, and not have to pay in some way for the harm they caused.

[louisville playa]

Get over it. All I said was the west end was poor. I didn't say anything about the people who live there.

AND YOU CAN SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT MY SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
You crossed the line. You are an asshole. And you should just stop it right here.
If all you guys on the west end don't accept gays, that's your fucking problem. But that isn't all of Louisville. There are way more people outside of the west end. And actually, you are one of the few people I have EVER run into with in Louisville that has said ANYTHING about my sexual orientation. I can count the incidents on my right hand.
You have little class in my eyes. I would never hold something like your race against you. Why should you not treat me the same? Yes, it IS the same idea, no matter what you feel or believe. You shot really low.


BTW Soul, Schris is not a stalker. His name is Jeremy and he's a really good friend of mine. hah I dunno if he would ever come around your doorstep though.

Even though he's your friend you know his ass is wrong and some 4 word bs apology so no one would gan on him ain't shit. And it makes you seem like an asshole agreeing with that shit he posted earlier. You have very clas in my eyes as well. Hell when I first came on this site Scris's smart ass probably said oh no not another West Ender and then he started degrading me. Then you came later on and tried to agree with him even when he was being an asshole.

[eweezerinc]

Where have I agreed with him? I just said the company is the one who needs to move these people out.
You're such a prick. What have I done to lower my calss? I would never make a personal attack on you just to belittle you on a stupid forum.

[louisville playa]

Hey well regardless of how low income we are, we (West Enders) built that skyline with our money. Secondly your ass came on here with "yo punk ass", as the first words you posted, So I don't give adamn about how you feel ( apparently you didn't care about my feelings). You came on this damn thread trying to down talk me when I wasn't even talking to you. Then you called me and everybody else in the West End punk asses (bitch you got us fucked up and you know better than to say that in the West End) b/c I said told every the truth that "WE' created our downtown. You best get on somewhere with that.

[louisville playa]

"Yo punk ass" and the rest of the west end sure as hell didn't provide the big bucks to build any of that skyline so you can be quiet about that.
And even before merger, the west end was far from Louisville's culture and stats. Maybe it's poverty stats. I'm sorry to sound like an ass, but it's just the fruggin truth.

I find this shit insulting don't you, considering I wasn't even talking to you.

[louisville playa]

Get over it. All I said was the west end was poor. I didn't say anything about the people who live there.

AND YOU CAN SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT MY SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
You crossed the line. You are an asshole. And you should just stop it right here.
If all you guys on the west end don't accept gays, that's your fucking problem. But that isn't all of Louisville. There are way more people outside of the west end. And actually, you are one of the few people I have EVER run into with in Louisville that has said ANYTHING about my sexual orientation. I can count the incidents on my right hand.
You have little class in my eyes. I would never hold something like your race against you. Why should you not treat me the same? Yes, it IS the same idea, no matter what you feel or believe. You shot really low.


BTW Soul, Schris is not a stalker. His name is Jeremy and he's a really good friend of mine. hah I dunno if he would ever come around your doorstep though.

well Hell you ain't say nothing when that Nashville dude bashing Louisville called you sweet Weepy and Sugar Daddy, and also called SCris your lover.

[louisville playa]

Just like you find Gay attacks personal I find suburban people like yall trying to degrade west Louisville as a waste land filled with bums personal.

[eweezerinc]

If you don't want your opinion rebutted, take your arguements one on one and out of a public forum.
Notice I put "Yo punk asses" in quotes, because you used the exact same phrase to refer to us "Punk ass" Suburbanites. They're called quotation marks for a reason.
To mark, I dunno, a quote?
And yes, you adressed it to us suburbanites. I live in Fern Creek after all.
And how on Earth could that hurt your feelings?
This isn't second grade, grow up.
You're just trying to put up a deffense. Face it, you said something really offensive and you went too far.

[louisville playa]

Well so did you and Your smart ass friend SCris.
Any way I'm done with this forget.

[eweezerinc]

Just like you find Gay attacks personal I find suburban people like yall trying to degrade west Louisville as a waste land filled with bums personal.

Schris may have used that terminology, but I do not generalize anyone and therefore haven't said that.
I don't think that everyone out there is a bum. One of my best friends from school is, believe it or not, BLACK.(GASP) And she lives on the west end.

[Soulbrotha]

Get over it. All I said was the west end was poor. I didn't say anything about the people who live there.

AND YOU CAN SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT MY SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
You crossed the line. You are an asshole. And you should just stop it right here.
If all you guys on the west end don't accept gays, that's your fucking problem. But that isn't all of Louisville. There are way more people outside of the west end. And actually, you are one of the few people I have EVER run into with in Louisville that has said ANYTHING about my sexual orientation. I can count the incidents on my right hand.
You have little class in my eyes. I would never hold something like your race against you. Why should you not treat me the same? Yes, it IS the same idea, no matter what you feel or believe. You shot really low.


BTW Soul, Schris is not a stalker. His name is Jeremy and he's a really good friend of mine. hah I dunno if he would ever come around your doorstep though.

I've been stalked before by a person from this site. So haha, its not that unusual.

[eweezerinc]

Whoa, that's like what sex offenders do. What if you had been molested? Or worse, you got mugged! >_<

BEWARE
SSC- A dangerous tool for criminals round the world

hah I love this place. Only somone on here would do that....



ANNNNYYYY WHO, Rubbertown.
Yeah, definately there is blame on the company, but I don't know that it is on the government because it was the factory emitting the pollution. But then again, why had it been allowed to do it for so long? The fact that it went on for such a length of time points a big fat finger at inspecters and what was going on in the government that made them overlook this...
Get the people out and pay the damages, but unfortunately money seems to be the only way to compensate for anyone that died from the chemicals. I don't really think that pain and suffering money is very moral or clean. Money shouldn't be able to wipe away sorrow.
Therefor the company and/or government ought to pay for medicals, relocation, ect, but nothing more

[SChristopher]

Is that a threat!? :O *hide*

If you guys hadn't noticed, Schris appoligized several post back.



And you completely ignored it.


Yeah there is really no excuse for some of the things I said on here, rough night rough times whatever. It was over when it was over. I just found it funny that it had to be brought back.

[eweezerinc]

Apparently some people feel you need to get on your hands and knees and beg and plee for forgiveness til your arms turn to bloody nubs and your left nut finally drops from hiding. HAH Ok
I'm joking. Just to verify. :sleepy:

[card04]

Yeah there is really no excuse for some of the things I said on here, rough night rough times whatever. It was over when it was over. I just found it funny that it had to be brought back.

Yeah, I just read through all of that, I still don't understand why it was brough up, again, I thought all points were made back in May, guess not. I just wanted to say that..

A) the west end isn't all of the former city's culture, it made up a third of the population. There is not doubt it had an influence, but it's not solely resonsible for making Louisville what it is.

B) We can thank businesses and real estate investors for the skyline, not tax payers. The city gives tax incentives for investors to build downtown, the only major projects I can think of that have used tax payer money have been 4th street live, Slugger Field,Ali Center, and Water Front Park. All highrises including residential are built by PRIVATE investors. (Think about who's funding the Museum Plaza) Before merger, lets not forget that Louisville was still apart of Jefferson County, so any major downtown projects funded by the city government was also funded by county government too.

C) Can't we all just get along.....enough with the 4th grade name calling. The West End has a high poverty rate, but people go into poverty for different reasons, not all are lazy, most are born into it. Not all the West End is a slum, I've seen some very nice houses in the Park Duvalle neigborhood, as well as the area around Shawnee Park. Even around Flaget Park isn't all that bad. People are becoming more accepting of gays in all regions of the country, not just the northeast, I know very few people who aren't. I'm straight so I know I'm not getting the whole story, but from what I've seen Louisville is a very accepting city for gays, unless pehaps if you leave Jefferson County.

[eweezerinc]

Furnace may be plant's breath of fresh air
Device meant to cut toxic emissions in Rubbertown

American Synthetic Rubber Co., the largest industrial source of a cancer-causing chemical in Louisville, is about to start using a furnace that could help cut its emissions by more than 90 percent.

A $3 million investment in a new pollution-control device will let the plant meet a Saturday deadline American Synthetic Rubber reached with city officials a year and a half year ago following a monitoring program for toxic air in the Rubbertown area.

The whole article:
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051228/NEWS01/512280390/1008/NEWS01