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Alvin
March 4th, 2005, 08:06 AM
Jakarta architects reveal extent of boom (24 January 2005)

Abstract: Interviews with principals of top architecture firms reveal a startling boom in Indonesia's building market


Top architecture firms here are reinventing themselves to service an astounding rebound in the property market. The recent spike in demand for architectural services is generally coming from developers servicing elite and lower-middle class consumers.

For wealthy consumers the new architecture will be more functional, intelligent, secure, minimalist and durable than in recent years. New buildings for poorer consumers will be more suitable for local traders, more varied in style and built more quickly. An estimated US$9 billion worth of building starts are scheduled for this year alone, according to BCI Asia research.

Large architecture companies must adapt quickly to maintain their leadership positions against nimble, young firms keen on establishing their own market niches. PT Indomegah Cipta Bangun Citra has turned the market on its head in the last two years by designing big profitable malls funded by pre-construction sales of strata-title shopping space. Its self-funding concept for colourful shopping malls, containing strata-title shops and a hypermarket, is such a hit with developers that it designed 30 of them last year.

"All my projects are the strata mall," said Indomegah's Principal Architect, Henry Kusnadi, with a proud demeanour. "After crisis, projects must produce cash flow."

The 7-square-meter shops, costing about Rp200 million each, sell like hot cakes off the plan to people wanting to get into the retail business provided the surrounding mall is expected to be popular. A staggering example of developers' confidence in this strata-shop market is the commission for Indomegah to design an area for 11,000 shops within the massive Jakarta City Centre in a consortium with architectural giant PT Airmas Asri.

Rapid change in retail architecture is repeated in the residential and office markets. It will be easier for people to work and trade from home in the new towers like Grand Soho in Slipi, designed by PT Sekawan DesignInc Arsitek. This 38-storey tower, that broke ground last November, will contain innovative loft apartments, each with a floor area of about 100 square meters. Offices or show rooms can be set up on the first floor of the apartments, which have an exaggerated spatial perspective because of their two-storey ceiling height. After a day's work, an occupant climbs a set of stairs in the rear of the apartment up to a private living area. Besides reflecting changing work habits, Grand Soho reflects new demands for improved aesthetics, such as a glass facade, as well as security in architecture.

"How you lead people into a building has now completely changed. You need long circulation areas to check vehicles before getting to the entrance," said Sekawan's President Director, Warren Daubney. "We have one tenant that requires that parking is 50 metres away from the building."

Warren has learnt a lot about high security in architecture, particularly when designing the renovation of the Australian Embassy blown up by a car bomb last year. High security in architecture for Jakarta means glass windows are replaced by polycarbonate, blast walls are erected, public plazas are forbidden, entrances are limited, parking is away from the building and electronic surveillance is more sophisticated.

Rising demands for security is just one of the changes that architecture firms must deal with and the history of architecture firms, like Sekawan, reflect the fundamental changes in the market.

"We've come from being an international company in the early 1990s then survived the crisis by doing small projects then to cost-driven projects. Now I have to change our image and business again," he said. "Buyers are looking for a good design, especially at the top end of the market.

"The difference now compared to three years ago is that cost used to be everything," he said. "It was just ridiculous, they weren't really concerned with quality."

New architecture in Jakarta is increasingly quality driven with Sekawan's clients demanding quality designs and materials for projects such as Oakwood Serviced Apartments and Sudirman Office and Apartment Tower. A glance through Sekawan's design book reveals that glass facades and bigger floor plates will be dominant features of Jakarta's future skyscrapers. This trend is clearly revealed in the 60-storey Cyber Estate tower being designed by Sekawan for a site on Jalan Gatot Subroto. This tower (shown left)will have a 2,500 square-metre floor plate and a total floor area of 140,000 square metres. Construction is due to start this year.

http://www.bciasia.com/images/news/Prod/006/n_327006/sekdesinc.jpg

According to PTI Architects' Managing Director, Doddy Tjahjadi, there are more square meters of floor space now under design than ever before in Indonesia, but architects' fees are still depressed.

"The boom is bigger than in '97," he said.

Some architecture firms are prepared to work for fees as low as 1% of a project's value so firms like PTI are very careful about who they work for, accepting only a couple of projects a month from the dozen or so that come their way. Other weaknesses in Indonesia's architectural industry include a lack of discourse on architectural quality and weakness in the law of negligence.

New commissions for PTI Architects include a 5-star resort in Bali for the Singapore-based Banyan Tree hotel group as well as renovation work for several embassies.

PT Airmas Asri's Design Manager, Ardi Jahya, said another major shift in the market was the movement away from European building materials in favour of cheaper materials from China. Other changes, albeit more gradual, included a shift towards modern minimalist designs with less decoration and a rising consciousness on the part of developers about building automation.

Airmas Asri designed Indonesia's tallest building now under construction in conjunction with DP Architects from Singapore. The Peak at Setiabudi will be 48-storeys when it is completed in mid 2006, surpassing BNI tower by two storeys. Interesting projects now being designed by Airmas include a competition-winning design for the 21-storey BCA building, with a two-floor data centre, in Slipi as well as several projects in Malaysia.

The architecture firms mentioned above are among Indonesia's top ten architecture firms, identified by BCI Asia as market leaders. They will receive TOP TEN 2005 awards along with 70 architecture firms at individual awards ceremonies in the capitals of eight key Asian markets. At the same ceremonies, to be held in the first quarter of 2005, 'Patron's Awards' will be bestowed on architectural firms who have excelled in the use of the respective patron's product or building technology. Patron awards are bestowed to architects across the region by world-leading suppliers to the building industry: Autodesk, Hansgrohe, Nippon Paint, Philips and Schindler Lifts. The winners of patrons' awards are listed in informative articles in this section of Architecture Asia. Another patron, Brilliant Building Materials will bestow an award to Shanghai Xian Dai Architectural Design (Group) Co Ltd at the ceremony in China.

JktCity
March 4th, 2005, 11:07 AM
yohoooooo....another tall 4 jkt babaaay!!! how tall guys...im guessing 250 M or maybe even a bit taller

David-80
March 4th, 2005, 02:04 PM
WOW...that one is taller but the design is so-so i think...I have mixed feeling about it

cheers

baqthier
March 4th, 2005, 02:29 PM
The design at the lower part looks like the WTC..towards the top looks like something by Cesar Pelli :)
Great one!

Alvin
March 4th, 2005, 02:43 PM
I quite like the design, glassy + minimalist. :)

ryanr
March 4th, 2005, 04:07 PM
I cant see the pictures:(

Alvin
March 4th, 2005, 04:12 PM
how come you can't see the picture? I wonder what's wrong...
here's the link. http://www.bciasia.com/images/news/Prod/006/n_327006/sekdesinc.jpg

ryanr
March 5th, 2005, 04:30 PM
:eek: I can see the picture now...and the tower is awesome. Very modern and tall, indeed. When will construction start?

Alvin
March 6th, 2005, 05:55 AM
don't know exactly when, but it'll start this year according to the article.
when you pass Gatot SUbroto, watchout for fenced lots as an indication to where this project might lie. (interested to know how close this tower will stand in relation to Wisma Mulia)

RafflesCity
March 6th, 2005, 06:00 AM
wow awesome!!!

:eek:

ncon
April 7th, 2005, 09:49 AM
how tall is it in meteres??!??!?

ncon
April 10th, 2005, 05:34 AM
IS IT UNDER CONSTRUCTION???

JktCity
April 22nd, 2005, 01:01 PM
and what bout this one?? news? alvin?

Alvin
April 22nd, 2005, 01:13 PM
no news on this one. Its only proposed, I think.

Alvin
May 7th, 2005, 07:19 PM
http://www.bciasia.com/top10/afterwards/pics/12.jpg

JktCity
May 8th, 2005, 09:43 AM
the article said 'construction is due to start this year'.....construction started yet?

XxRyoChanxX
July 13th, 2005, 07:31 AM
did they start...? anyone>

Alvin
July 13th, 2005, 08:22 AM
I don't know, its difficult to find out when you don't know where it is exactly....

JktCity
August 19th, 2005, 12:52 PM
still no news then...

Alvin
August 19th, 2005, 02:11 PM
this project is located at the intersection betw rasuna said and gatot subroto. it includes the 60 storey tower, 2 20 storey towers (see picture), and a convention center to rival the JCC.

Blue_Sky
November 4th, 2005, 08:33 AM
Any news about this supertall??

JktCity
November 9th, 2005, 11:22 AM
iye ada kabar kaga?

F-ian
November 10th, 2005, 07:37 PM
Hey Check Skyscraperpage.com they just updated it! this is gonna be the 2nd Tallest!! after Wisma 46 and Mega kuningan Town park!!

Blue_Sky
November 10th, 2005, 07:43 PM
another 200m + for Jakarta skyline

Blue_Sky
November 26th, 2005, 05:08 AM
But still only a proposal

Ojak
December 13th, 2005, 07:58 AM
Unfortunately then..

Alvin
June 21st, 2006, 04:18 AM
http://www.photoalbum.cc/showalbum.php?uuid=337&aid=345

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9248/cyberestate4br.jpg

XxRyoChanxX
June 21st, 2006, 05:57 AM
so are they really going to build this?

Alvin
June 21st, 2006, 06:16 AM
It's most probably on hold... :bash:

F-ian
June 21st, 2006, 06:17 AM
:cry:

hahaha that wa just a proposed one never to come true anyway.... i used to work on that project.... but it stoped

ncon
June 21st, 2006, 06:19 AM
gambar gedung nya bengok yah ?

jaystar
June 21st, 2006, 06:19 PM
i love the design is so glassy...

rizalhakim
June 3rd, 2009, 08:26 AM
ini projek tidak jadi???

bagak
June 3rd, 2009, 10:06 AM
ini projek tidak jadi???


God knows,,, hahahahaha....

EngSTR
June 12th, 2009, 11:33 AM
I think,this huge-super tall building is postponed. Any information for developer ?

AAG
October 15th, 2009, 02:39 PM
^^Di skyscraperpage banyak yang hilang gedungnya, oh ya kalau mau rubah jumlah lantainya gimana sih? mo rubah yang sudirman plaza
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83510
jumlah lantainya hanya 27 lantai, sama one pacific placenya kemana ya? menara jakartanya juga hilang...

Rachman
October 15th, 2009, 03:42 PM
^^Di skyscraperpage banyak yang hilang gedungnya, oh ya kalau mau rubah jumlah lantainya gimana sih? mo rubah yang sudirman plaza
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83510
jumlah lantainya hanya 27 lantai, sama one pacific placenya kemana ya? menara jakartanya juga hilang...

Kemungkinan krn form yg dibwh tanda built nya dicentang, jadi yg keluar gedung yg dah built.. Kalo mau ganti jmlh lantai, hrs jadi member ssp forum dulu, trs bikin thread di bagian drawing request/correction..gw terakhir dh correct 8 gdng tapi ga dterima2..

Rachman
October 15th, 2009, 03:43 PM
Kalo pacificnya krn blm ada gmbrny mgkn

AAG
October 16th, 2009, 05:01 AM
^^Oh ok, interesting info rachman, thanks :)
ok AAG siap jadi member SSP :D

huggiess
October 16th, 2009, 01:17 PM
more than 10 years wisma 46 still number one in jakarta.
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Why?

F-ian
October 16th, 2009, 01:27 PM
<<<<<<<<<<<<<< gempa tadi menjawabnya :cry: bikin orang enggan ke lantai yg tinggi2.. moga developer gak takut2 untuk bikin the tallest

SOTT

Dazon
October 16th, 2009, 03:56 PM
^^Di skyscraperpage banyak yang hilang gedungnya, oh ya kalau mau rubah jumlah lantainya gimana sih? mo rubah yang sudirman plaza
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83510
jumlah lantainya hanya 27 lantai, sama one pacific placenya kemana ya? menara jakartanya juga hilang...

Thamres juga ilang... cape2 dah g buatnya wahahahah

Rachman
October 17th, 2009, 11:45 AM
Thamres juga ilang... cape2 dah g buatnya wahahahah

Oh jadi beneran pada ilang? Yah impian gw sirna deh..:(

Ni gdg ga the tallest kan? Di ssp cuma 240m, msh lbh pendek dr 46..tapi cukuplah bwt jakarta lbh dense dg skyline

Dazon
October 19th, 2009, 10:28 AM
ini gedung masih proposal... soal ketinggiannya kurang ada yang tahu secara pastinya hehehe... paling sekitar 250. BNI 46 menang di Spirenya doang... iya pada ilang... bete banget nginputnya lagi. tapi aneh The Regatta masih ada

huggiess
October 21st, 2009, 12:02 PM
Tapi top roofnya keliatan lebih tinggi dari pada roofnya BNI 46. sayng g ada antena / penangkal petirnya.