Kifissias Avenue night shots (own shots)

[george_ts]

I took today the shots on the way home (work and live in Marussi) and as I wantet to test my new digi cam I thing they came good out so here we go
Before I forget the photo trip ends on the Kifissias /attika ring road it is near the Nerantziotissa Station I like especially the pics from Attika Road….
Here we go….
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[george_ts]

tomorrow will make more.....

[sts]

George,I can see only some pics!

[george_ts]

George,I can see only some pics!
are you sure.... strange may can you reload it should be ok as for my self I dont have problems....

[Allan]

i can't see any.

[george_ts]

edit
its working again... :)

[Allan]

Great shots :okay:

[Kuvvaci]

George it is a nice work...I liked the light at the first photos...

[Carpe diem]

bravo george! poly kali douleia :okay:

[george_ts]

bravo george! poly kali douleia :okay:
Ευχαριστώ, I will try to make more from some other arias

George it is a nice work...I liked the light at the first photos...

Yes I like them to but it was already late and of course the time I needed to walk until the ring road it was already dark...

and thanks allan as well

considering that it was the first time that I used this Camera I thing they came good out ( but I had experience with other Digicams)

its a pity today it is raining... cant go anywhere..

[LEAFS FANATIC]

Can't wait for your other pics George! Great job file!

[Arpels]

nice pics :)

[sts]

Now i can see:truly amazing!!

[Christos7]

great job george!!

looking forward to more. :)

[gm2263]

Excellent job george!!! :) I'm very happy that there is another one that took it to the streets and started taking pics of this city like that. It is time for the publics of this forum to know that Athens has a modern distict called Maroussi (I had presented a thread in Euroscrapers in 2003 but now it's gone).

Also for the Turkish forumers visiting this thread:

This is the closest thing you may find to Levent, Maslak and Buyukdere Avenue in Athens.

Also for the benefit of informing all foreign visitors here: Kifissias Avenue is a long 20km Avenue that connects Central Athens to the Northern suburbs. It passes within breathing distance from the main Athens Olympic Sports Centre and cuts through a number of high class suburbs like Chalandri, Psychiko and especially, Maroussi, when the Main Olympic Sports centre (and the Olympic stadium is located.

Although I am busy this weekend, I have some daytime pics on stock to add to this beautiful collection by George. So:

-Pictures taken from the sides of the footbridge close to the "Hygeia" Hospital. In the first picture, the blue bui8lding in the foreground is the Athens Olympic Committee Head Offices

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24690/347394/0/Kiffissias+Avenue+from+Hygeia+Footbridge+North1.JPG


-View from the same spot depicting the main Press and Exhibition Halls used in the Olympics (very limited view though as these buildings occupied some 150,000 sq. metres in total:D

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/347425/0/Kiffissias+Avenue+from+Hygeia+Footbridge+North2.JPG


-View of the typical style of the lowrises in Kifissias Avenue

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/347429/0/Polis+4%2C+5+and+6+-+2+-+small+.jpg


-Athens fourth tallest, and second tallest Office tower, the Atrina Centre as seen from Kifissias Avenue

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/354986/0/Athens+-+Atrina+Center+Tower+7-small.jpg

[george_ts]

Thanks my friend for your contribution everyone who is willing to contribute on Athens is welcome.... your photos are excellent as well....
as for me it is the first weekend after over one month that I have really time for my self and not for my job... and as I see today the weather is fantastic I will make some additional pictures but first of all I intend to visit the new acropolis museum construction and make some pics
and later on some additional well we will see where....

[Raleigh-NC]

Great photos!!! Thanks for posting them here :okay:

[george_ts]

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[falconi]

nice work! :cheers:

[Istanbullu]

Very nice work George! :)

Considering that it's always hard to take night shots and it's your first experiences with the new cam!

[george_ts]

nice work! :cheers:

thanks

[george_ts]

Very nice work George! :)

Considering that it's always hard to take night shots and it's your first experiences with the new cam!

thanks istanbullu
it is indeed very hard..... not every shot is successfull view of them I had to repeat the shot )my only good luck is that the screen from the cam is big and with a high resolution so that I can Judge better....

[Istanbullu]

Just hold the cam tight when taking night shots. It should be ok... ;)

Good luck...

[falconi]

dont say so istanbullu!
its really hard to take night shots, i know it self, without a tripod you cannot take a good photo!
this is really a good work!!

[Istanbullu]

Indeed, that's what i'm pointing though. It's very hard to take night shots wthout tripod. You must not shake the camera and for that Georges' pics are indeed very good! :)

[Allan]

Excellent pictures, george. Keep up the good work :okay:

[demetrio]

This is my small contribution to this interesting topic... :)
http://www.athens-today.com/mix/kifissias_small1.jpg
http://www.athens-today.com/mix/kifissias_small2.jpg
http://www.athens-today.com/mix/kifissias_small3.jpg

[george_ts]

thanks demetrio for the pics I know your site and I have to admit that you ar ea very good photograph....

[Giorgio]

Panagia Mou! Athens is so Modern. Its about time people saw the REAL athens or atleast the part we want them to see. I cant think of anywere that has this style of buildings. They are quit unique

[gm2263]

I am very happy that at last we have seen many pictures from this modern boulevard which is systematically badmouthed by the Greek Media and which, in my view is becoming very interesting since it constitutes a different model of development altogether, especially with the imminent addition of the new shopping and entertainment centres, now under construction.

One of the most interesting spots is the intersection of Kifissias Avenue with the Attica Road, the main Athens ring road system, which forms a big roundabout also known as "the cake".

The only problem is that although there seems to be some activity going on there, I see not even a hint for a skyscraper construction :(. However, there seem to be quite some notable office developments there.

Some more pics:

1. -This one (C) from the Athens 2004 Olympic Games Committee with a very nice view of "the cake" and the 18-storey Greek Telecom Building (OTE)clearly visible next to it:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/398403/0/Athens+-+kiffisias+Intersection+-+Medium.jpg

2- Looking from one side of "the cake" towards the OTE building shortly after the full completion of the junction (2002).

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/398399/0/Athens+Kifissias+Roundabout++-+Medium+2.jpg


3. Looking towards the Atrina Centre and "Monumental Plaza", all built by the Babis Vovos SA Constructions company

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/398400/0/Athens+Maroussi+-+Medium+2.jpg


4. Looking at another array of buildings built by the Babis Vovos group.

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/398404/0/Athens+-+Kiffisias+Buildings+Medium+-+2.jpg

Again, this is a superb thread and I wish it develops further, as regardless of what the traditionalists have to say, I believe that Kifissias IS a jewel. And thanks for the wonderful pictures George. I hope mine help illustrate this very interesting spot of our city which puts a new perspective on how we view Athens overall. :)

[demetrio]

thanks demetrio for the pics I know your site and I have to admit that you ar ea very good photograph....
Thanks george_ts... I think my photos are only the expression of my big love for this wonderful city! :)

Soon I'll post some new photos...

[george_ts]

actualy near my house there is an very interesting Building under constraction
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of course the following picture doesnt justify the drowing but I am sure in the end it will....
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and this will be a cinema unfortunately I was from the other site so I couldnt go further with the zoom....
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[Ozcan]

Beautiful:D

[gm2263]

George, beware of security guards as I have been asked many times what I am doing while I was taking pictures of the buildings. Nice pictures too, keep them coming. I took some too, which I hope I will post some time next week :)

[george_ts]

George, beware of security guards as I have been asked many times what I am doing while I was taking pictures of the buildings. Nice pictures too, keep them coming. I took some too, which I hope I will post some time next week :)

Yeah I noticed that when I took last week the Otenet building the guard wasnt happy about that... but to be honest this was the only incident that happend....
I would love to see the Pictures that you took (and I am sure I am not the only one ) as for me I am planning to start take some pictures to the oposite direction ( you know after Ygias ) and down to halandri, psichiko.... there I did notice some nice buildings as well

well today I took a picture on the Nerantziotisa Station I like the background thats why I took it
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis/33449/401061/0/IMG_0001364.jpg
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[gm2263]

I took some pictures from the Neratziotissa station and the surroundings as well last week. I will post them here probably by tomorrow guys. Also @ George, thanks for your kind words, the pleasure is also mine. Anyway, we talk later, gotta go :)

[Kuvvaci]

Could you give more information about this area please? I heard its name so much, but don't know the importance.

[asst31]

It is one of the main avenues of Athens connecting the city center with the northern suburbs (the suburb of Kifissia is situated at the end of this road and gives it's name to the avenue).Along both sides of this avenue ,there many "rich" quarters of the city and great part of the city's business center with modern buildings(this would have been probably the highscrapper district of the city...but as you know building highscrappers in Athens is forbidden ). This is also the main access road to the Olympic Stadium...

[Ozcan]

...but as you know building highscrappers in Athens is forbidden ).

:D LOL

[LEAFS FANATIC]

:D LOL


May I ask what is so funny?

Please stop trying to ruin a thread that George has worked so hard on.

[Ozcan]

The way he expresses his disapproval of the mentality against skyscrapers, what did you think I was thinking :?

[Kuvvaci]

Anyway, don't change the subject of this nice thread.

[george_ts]

thanks guys
@ gm I am really happy and thankfull for everyone who is willing to "contribute" on this (and /or other threads ) and as you I do love this city and have the desire to see more improvements... but unfortunately it takes time (especialy in greece ) but I am very confident (and we can see it ) our city is changing and is continously improving. and is waiting to be discovered, and I will show the people here in this Forum how we see our city...

@ kuvvaci I thing asst31 explained about the particular avenue but if you have questions you are welcome

@ Ozcan maybe next time be more clear about that what you wanna say as you can see people can get the wrong conclusion and actualy leafs wanted only to "defend" my thread as he knows very well (he knows how big the avenue is ) about the efort to take this pictures ) (not to take in count the pics from gm and his effort which I really Appreciate to post his own pics here ) but because I know you didnt mean it bad be more precize with your answers/questions this should do the job
and again thanks guys
@ leafs thanks as always for your support

[gm2263]

George, my man, thanks for the nice words and guys, we talk tomorrow. True, the 17-km long Kifissias Avenue connects the city centre with the northern suburbs. The Business centre is in the suburb of Maroussi which is the equivalent to Levent in Istanbul, as Kifissias Avenue is the equivalent of Buyukdere. More tomorrow, I have to catch the DVD rental store open to find a movie to see...

[Ozcan]

@Gm2263,


forgive my ignorance, are those the most important commercial areas in the country?

[sts]

Wow!!Nice work!!

[demetrio]

my small contribution (part II):
http://www.athens-today.com/mix/kifissias_3.jpg
http://www.athens-today.com/mix/kifissias_1.jpg
http://www.athens-today.com/mix/kifissias_2.jpg

[gm2263]

Well, well, well, by popular demand (for which I have anticipated and that's why I decided to go and take some pics last week, when the weather was very good :)) here are some notes and pictures out of Kifissias Avenue and the Neratziotissa Station developments.

Long ago, I had posted a thread about Maroussi here, analysing its significance as the most important of the new Business Centres emerging in Athens, the other being on Syggrou Avenue towards the coastal suburbs, while we also see some scattered developments on the Intersection of Athinon and Kifissos (warning: different from Kifissias) Avenues too.

As mentioned earlier, Kifissias Avenue connects Ampelokipi, one of the central districts of Athens, where the first skyscrapers of Athens have been built during the mid - 70's including the Athens Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=110579), still the tallest building in Athens, with the northern suburbs.

Over the years, Kifissias Avenue which cuts though many suburbs, including (from South to the north) Psychikon, Chalandri, Maroussi (which is what interests us) and Kifissia (where the avenue changes its name and continues for another 5 km but not as a 3+3 lane avenue), became a boulevard which epitomises high-tech development, a trend that reached its apogee with the construction (1982) and renovation (2004) of the Athens Olympic Complex which is located in the adjacent area to Kifissias that once had many lignite extraction sites and now is known as "Kalogreza".

In all its length, Kifissias Avenue has many beautiful high-tech lowrise architecture to display with the exception of the Atrina Centre (1980) and the Greek Telecom Head Offices (1978). What geore has show us here :master: is what this avenue of shopping centres and office buildings looks like at ground level, especially at night.

Now, the development of this Avenue received a further boost with the undertaking of the Olympic games, which aloowed for the construction of three new junctions, including the "cake" or the roundabout junction with the new main Athens ring road, namely, the Attica Road which connects the east (and the Athens new airport) with the West of Athens suburbia, while Kifissias connects the centre of Athens with the northern suburbs. As one understands, the cake and its adjacent Attica Road and Kifissias Avenue properties will receive skyrocketing commercial pressures, with the only burden being the building code and the aversion of almost every Athenian except me :D to the construction of tall buildings (we have the potential, but not the will :().

The pictures that follow, depict the new construction in the neighbourhood of the junction of Kifissias Avenue and Attica Road. To give you an understanding, the Attica Road is submerged for environmental protection purposes and also has the suburban rail in the middle. So, in the cake you have two major arterial roads AND a suburban rail station combined. Within some 500m distance to the west of the "cake", there is another big junction where you have the suburban rail meeting line 1 (green) of the Athens metro rail system, namely the increasingly important "Neratziotissa" Station.

My pictures that follow depict the situation in those 500 metres and, as one might expect, this is only the beginning :):):):)

We will start from Neratziotissastation, some 500 metres to the west of the cake:


1. Upper deck of Neratziotissa Station looking towards the cake. We see a part of the Attica Road, where the rail lines of that occupy the themidsection of the road are clearly visible. To the far left of the picture, the 18-storey Greek Telecom (OTE) Head offices building is also visible:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/399005/0/Athens+-+Attica+Road+From+Neratziotissa+Station+1.jpg


2. Close-up at the OTE building:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/399004/0/OTE+HQ+7+-+small.jpg


3. Close-up at the Atrina centre from Neratziotissa (in reality it is located some 1km away)

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/399002/0/Athens+-+Atrina+Center+Tower+10-small.jpg


4. Close-up at the Athens Olympic Stadium. For your information, the Neratziotissa stations was one of the main rail stations that served the Athens Olympic games. This is a rare view of the stadiumthat you certainly will not see in any city guides:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/401683/0/Athens+-+From+Neratziotissa+Station+-+Olympic+Stadium++1.jpg


5. Attica Road and part of the Neratziotissa Station looking west

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/401678/0/Athens+-+Attica+Road+From+Neratziotissa+Station+2.jpg


6. The Neratziotissa Station (you can understand now the size of both and how the whole complex looks like)

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/399007/0/Athens+-+Shopping+Centre+View+1.jpg


7. This shopping centre is under construction from Lambda development (a member of the Latsis Group) and is also the concluding project of the Lambda Olympic Village. Click here (http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24690/320179/0/Maroussi+Centre.jpg) to see the official drawing of the 60,000 sq mtret development project, which is expected to be fully completed next summer.

Views of the shopping centre from Neratziotissa Station:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/399006/0/Athens+-+Shopping+Centre+From+Neratziotissa+Station+2.jpg

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/401680/0/Athens+-+From+Neratziotissa+Station+-+Attica+Road+and+Shopping+C


8. View of the shopping centre from Neratziotissa station also depicting part of the platform for line 1 (green or ISAP for the Greeks)

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/401679/0/Athens+-+Shopping+Centre+From+Neratziotissa+Station+1.jpg

We now move to the "cake", some 500 metres to the east of the previous location, at the junction of Kifissias and Attica Road Avenues.


9. View of the complex of Neratziotissa station and the Shopping Centre from "the cake" with a zoom close up. Still, the size of the building is now more visible

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/401682/0/Athens+-+Shopping+Centre+View+2.jpg

10. Views of the OTE building and the cake - Update of a pervious 2002 picture posted n this thread:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/401686/0/Athens+Kifissias+Roundabout++-+2005+-+Medium.jpg

In this picture you can also see part of the suburban rail station too:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/401687/0/Athens+Kifissias+Roundabout++-+2005+-+2+-+Medium.jpg


12. Finally, a picture taken from "the cake" looking at other office complexes of the area including the Atrina Centre. Update of another picture posted in this thread too.

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/401688/0/Athens+-+Maroussi+-+2005.jpg

From all the above we conclude that something is in the making in the area. I have said for a million times that this particular area (much resembling to Levent or Maslak for the regular visitors here :D :lol: ) literelly begs for skyscraper construction. Will they be built and give it the proper looks? Only time will tell :)

[Kuvvaci]

I want to ask anything. This area is at the north and away from Acropolis. My opinion, it is suitable for skyscrapers. Am I wrong? Athens can create an area like La Deffence in Paris. It doesn't effect the suliet of Paris either. I think, north of Athens is suitable for skyscrapers. What do you think about this?

[gm2263]

Because I have been to Buyukdere Avenue while being driven around in a tourist bus (after having tasted some delicious fish at a Bosporous restaurant), I can tell you that the similarities between Levent and Maroussi in terms of setting are amazing. True, at a distance of some 15 km to the north of the Acropolis (which isn't even visible from there) Maroussi clearly is THE place for the construction of a few skyscrapers up to 150m just to give an additional metropolitan touch to Athens. Indeed, there are a few more areas suitable for skyscrapers but obviously, nowhere near the coast. Like I said, this one is amongst the most appropriate places due to the already built infrastructure.

I don't know what George (who has initiated this wonderful thread, thanks buddy :okay: ) has to say about skyscraper construction in his neighbourhood though...

[Kuvvaci]

do you think it will always be forbidden o something can change by the time? Maybe banks or firms will need such buildings in the future... Your big buildings are mostly horizontal and it spends much land for construction... They are also as big as any skyscraper, but horizontal...

[Fronxie]

Elegant

[Allan]

very nice:okay:

[asst31]

Once again a :master: :master: contribution by gm...I'm looking forward to see george's "answer"... :) Take your time!!!

[george_ts]

Wow what a great contribution as always GM you describe everything up to the detail....
your Pics are really fantastic and I have to thank you really very much about this great contribution it makes really this thread much richer and more interesting especialy because your descriptions they are so detailed
as a second I will unswer your question about what I thing having skyscrapers in my neighborhood....
I will say the same as I said to my neighbors...
If the structuring in Maroussi in the beginning would be separeted in Office/Shoping development and Housing development I thing it would make it much easier for the People to accept skyscrapers but as I see now at the moment that they are building even in my street offices well that will make the situation more difficult to accept skyscrapers, but as for me personaly I dont mind to see view skyscrapers in the Kiffisias Avenue it would be an plus to this Avenue
and additional I have to say that Maroussi is a nice area to live modern the houses are very modern and in the weekends )or (evenings ) it is very quiet as the most are offices especialy where I live an breath away (5 min walk) from Nerantiotisa...
And I have to admit that I see every day the Stadium its simply stunning

[gm2263]

George gave the best answer one could have given with regards to the issue at hand. True, we have seen some rather extreme cases where 4-8 storey buildings have been built in neighbourhoods along with residential blocks. I mean, the situation in Paradissou street (that's "Paradise" street :D) is a bit strange and consider the fact that while a four-storey residential block (with one residence per floor) may need up to 8 parking places, a commercial office building needs more than 20 in order to accomodate the employees that work there, without taking into account the numbers of visitors / customers etc that are parts and parcels of any active business operation. This obviously becomes a problem when buildings addressing different property development uses (i.e. residential vis-a-vis commercial) are forced to coexist.

Also, a skyscraper needs far larger area to be built in comparison to other buildings and true, when built in the correct manner (i.e. spaced apart with organised faciliries to serve the multitude of the functions of their tenants) skyscrapers can, besides a grandiose spectacle to their visitors and passers-by, offer a very well organised habitat which, albeit artificial, may offer much better living conditions compered to other lowrise, yet packed urban developments (like in many places in Athens :D). However, the key to all is intelligent use of space, not the simple packing of taller buildings.

[Mr. T]

I definatley would not want to see Maroussi turn into New York but I agree that adding more skyscrapers would be nice, Maroussi should try to become like Levent is in Istanbul.

[gm2263]

Like I said, everything is a matter of proper and strategic application of certain principles. In general, I would find it difficult to see buildings above 150m (read 500 feet) to be built anywhere in this city although a 250-m tall TV tower inside the Olympic Complex would be a spectacular new addition. However, I believe that the tallest building should not exceed the 40-storey - 150-160m mark. I also wouldn't expect many of them to be built overall around the city anyway. If they are so, they should be properly positioned in order to create an sense of openness instead of the density of, say Kato Patissia. The key is how you position the buildings, not simply packing them.

As for the "Manhattanisation" of Maroussi, even if the will was there, the biggest practical burden would be the current trends and demands for such towers. We are talking about thousands of square metres/feet with a rather fragile certainty for viable tenancy in the light of the current economic situation in Greece, and this is the reason that only few players would be able to proceed with this. And of course, we are talking about offices here, as I dont'believe that any Greek family would like to live some 15 or 20 storeys above the ground. For work it's different though if the construction of these first edifices is accompanied by an intensive promotional campaign...

[Kuvvaci]

But I think Ethniki Trapeza and others can have tall HQ's. Am I wrong? For example tall buildings are investment in Istanbul. They are expensive but bring more money to the owner. As I told your horizontal big buildings are expensive too, also they spend larger area. But if you say people of Athens don't like them, of course no one can say anything else...

[Christos7]

I have been away for a while but this thread is amazing.


This is the reason I think we all came to love these forums....

gm and george I must commend you, great job and thank you. Keep up the good work and keep the pictures coming!!

btw, I can't wait to see this finished:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24690/320179/0/Maroussi+Centre.jpg

It really adds alot to the look of the area. Hopefully we keep improving!

[Majevčan]

This thread is great!
Loved to come and see all those #1 Athen's pics (I feel more and more attracted by Athens and Greece as a whole ;) ).

Thanx to all the contributors

Majevcan

[oxidan]

hello !!! I weas in greece in 2001... I likie so much to see that modernity in Greece! nice avenue.. I know that in Singrou avenue thjere is another buildigs.. personally I would like to see pics about nea smirni and alexandras avenue!!!

beautyful pictures

[GrigorisSokratis]

Hi, I totally agree that Kifissias Av is the right and the best place to build some skyscrapers.

I think construction rules of the city should keep forbidding the rise of higher than 15 stories structures in areas out of Kifissias, Syngrou, Attikis and the like.

Say for instance it would be catastrophic from the aesthetics point of view as well as for the living conditions to have packed buildings one next to the other in areas like Patissia, Galatsi or.... oh boy! Kypseli!!!!

Nowadays I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina and how can I describe this city; with the exception of the Downtown area and some neighborhoods this city has a vast packed more-than-15-stories-buildings swarm which reaches to the very limits of it.

Moreover they lack of architectural beauty, (almost all of them have been built in the 70s and 80s), are grey of smog and it gives the city a horrible view. (there are more than 1000 of this higher than 12 stories buildings in Bs As). This city also lacks of green spaces due to this same situation (about 2 sq. m per person)

As you can see this situation doesn't happen in this scale in no other city on earth even in great metropolis of America like New York, LA or Chicago to mention a few; where you can find highrises just in central areas while the residencial ones are rather flat.

So that's why in Athens the restriction should be keeped in those central areas, but in zones like Kifissias or Syngrou there could be some exception.

As in Paris with La Defence (some 10 kms west of Paris downtown), Athens could have an skyscrapers area with no height restrictions. But as it happens in its french counterpart, we could keep an equilibrium in the distribution of this highrises with green areas. Also as I read a few posts above, someone mentioned a TV tower in the OAKA area, that would be great!

So for the aesthetics of this beautiful city of 5 million souls it would be great to have a modern office building quarter and where better than Kifissias! Also it would help in some degree to the decompression of Athens center

So my thumb up to this idea. And, don't forget that Athens after London and Paris is the third largest city of EE and the fourth of the continent adding Moscow; it needs a large scale project like this.

[gm2263]

Update on Kifissias Avenue. Two of the pictures below have been uploaded with 1000x748 resolution so that you can enjoy them better.

1- Rare view of the Spyros Louis Avenue taken from Kifissias Avenue right on their junction, looking towards the Athens Olympic Stadium. The building to the right constitutes part the HUGE (more than 100,000 Sq metres of usable space) Olympic Broadcasting Centre, now destined for government and public use.


http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/414375/0/Spyros+Louis+Avenue+and+OAKA+from+Kifissias+2-Medium.jpg

2.- View of Kifissias Avenue from the footbridge close to the Hygeia Hospital. The 17-storey Hygeia Hospital is visible here as well as in more detail in the next picture.

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/414374/0/Athens+-+Kifissias+Avenue+and+Hygeia+from+Footbridge+-+Medium.jp

And the detail. Please note that the hospital was completed in 1974.

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/414376/0/Athens+-+Kifissias+Avenue+and+Hygeia+from+Footbridge+Detail.jpg

I still have these "what if" questions penetrating my head regarding the possibility the city planners of this city had been bolder... It took S. Calatrava a simple "cut and paste" to metamorphose a significant area in the neighbourhood into one of the best architecture parks in Europe, namely the Athens Olympic Sports Centre. What's next?

I am still waiting for developments in the Neratziotissa complex to provide you with updated material.

[george_ts]

wow guys I am happy to see that this thread is still alive,
I have to admit that I wasnt able for a while to write something (Holidays,busy at work....) so but now I am back and will try to add something the next days....

@GM great photos, I have to thank you really for your participation and to keep this thread alive next days I promise to continue my tour
again thanks Guys

[gm2263]

@George_ts

Well, thanks for your kind words. I don't understand why this thread should "die" since Kifissias Avenue is under constant development. The only disadvantage for long threads is that people find it difficult to follow espesially if they have slow connections and eventually, someone may not go to the 4th page of a thread if s/he doesn't know what it's all about.

Now, with regards to Kifissias Avenue, the first shot (which although I am amodest person in general :D, I believe that it deserves more publicity due to its uniqueness, was taken from Kifissas Avenue, exactly above the Spyros Louis avanus. Now, this is a difficult spot as there is almost no sidewalk and you risk to be run over by a car, especially at night where many drivers may be intoxicated (i.e. drunk or whatever). The only way to approach this spot is by going up Kifissias Avenue on the right side where there is a bus stop in the beginning and there is s small pavement up to the particular spot. DON'T come from the north as you may rut yourself in risk (no kidding, the cars run with highway spees there and there is no traffic light for 1km on both directions.

But we will be in touch... :)

[Christos7]

mpravo gm. :)


Again thank you so much.


Keep up the good work guys.

[Giorgio]

Highrises in Athens would look so good. Honestly, i love the flat white ocean of buildings but a bit of hight would look sweet

[gm2263]

Giorgos 69 - Like you said "A bit of height". I personally believe that anything above 500feet/ 150m would simply be too tall but a bit of hight here and there would be something else!!!

[oxidan]

polla omofes fotografies apo i ellada, ego ime apo to peru, ime peruvianos alla agapo i ellada poli.. gia o kosmos kai storia!!!

[LEAFS FANATIC]

polla omofes fotografies apo i ellada, ego ime apo to peru, ime peruvianos alla agapo i ellada poli.. gia o kosmos kai storia!!!


Thanks for the kind words oxidan!!! :)

Are you a greek living in peru? If no, how do you know greek so well?

:cheers:

[george_ts]

I know its long time ago and I didt any updates in kifissias Ave. as i am very busy at work and not enough time for photo sessions but anyway
but there are couple interesting constructions in progress in maroussi
lets start with a new cinema complex in kifissias I made some shots
but there is an other cinema complex in kifissias and they building an shoppingcenter in Nerantziotissa(close to kifissias) with cinemas .... I dont know who is gonna visit all this cinemas .. but anyway lets see


this is the view from the construction site

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis3/36112/434567/0/kiffisias-005.jpg

this is the entrance of the construction site at the moment there is a lot of dust and dirt
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis3/36112/434563/0/kiffisias-001.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis3/36112/434564/0/kiffisias-002.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis3/36112/434565/0/kiffisias-003.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis3/36112/434566/0/kiffisias-004.jpg

[gm2263]

Ooops!!!

I thought this thread was not existing otherwise I would have put here the Kifissias Avenue pic that I posted in a separate thread a few days ago.

I will need to make a separate thread about all those GIGANTIC shopping and entertainment centres under construction in Athens, Thessaloniki, Komotini, Volos and other cities. Konstantinoupolis has already made some extensive references in his vibrant Conrtructions threads that we have as stickys here and you can go and scan them for more info.

However, I can see that the first of these beasts are in an advanced stage of construction and I still make the question: With some 30 new cinemas in Maroussi, where will they find all this clientele? I mean, I know the area is server by the suburban and metro rails, as well as two highways but still...

Truth is the area is changing rapidly...

[Giorgio]

30 CINEMAS IN ONE AREA!!! HAVE THESE PEOPLE LOST THERE MINDS????

[gm2263]

Excellent picture of Kifissias Avenue - From George Xenidis, the Admin of the http://www.stadia.gr database and forum. Originally posted in other threads, but I believe that it definitely belongs here.

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gxenides/35990/432589/0/kifisias.JPG

[gm2263]

I simply want to resuscitate this thread, as it will be useful for KDFM who will visit Athens.

[george_ts]

well today after long time I decided to take some shots from Kosmopolis (multiplex cinema) which very close where I live.....
they are not the best but promise to bring some more in the next days.....

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis2/41073/494214/0/IMG_0005.JPG

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis2/41073/494215/0/IMG_0006.JPG

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis2/41073/494216/0/IMG_0007.JPG
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis2/41073/494217/0/IMG_0008.JPG
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis2/41073/494218/0/IMG_0009.JPG
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis2/41073/494219/0/IMG_0010.JPG
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis2/41073/494223/0/IMG_0011.JPG
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis2/41073/494224/0/IMG_0012.JPG
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis2/41073/494225/0/IMG_0013.JPG

[gm2263]

Yes, the first of a new generation of retail-entertainment complexes to open in Athens the next few days...

[Cerises]

I noticed recently that Kosmopolis had opened too. Looks nice. My brother visited it the other day. He preferes Village center though! I've also been seeing 'the Mall' advertisements everywhere.

[Giorgio]

Great Pics! I hadn't seen them!! Sorry for reviving such a brilliant thread! :lol:

[Turkish Sultan]

this is the effect of the eu-membership...

i hope you will take us in the eu too... :|

[Giorgio]

I need to bump this thread - its brilliant.

[gm2263]

Err, after two years of inaction, time to revive this one too...

(Κι' εμείς δε θα πεθάνουμε ποτέ κουφάλα νεκροθάφτη που λέει και ο Παπακωνσταντίνου :D).

Kifissias Avenue during the winter of 2007 looking towards the Hygeia hospital for the ones knowing the area :). Taken with the old and rotten cellphone camera (I need to change this one but I re;ly on my good old camera for taking pics. Cellphones are for talking not shooting for God's sake!!! ).

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/gm2263/Athens%20Skyscrapers%20and%20Modern%20Architecture%204/LGGSMpicture30-KifissiasAvenue.jpg

Για να μη ξεχνιόμαστε.

[AEK]

Eksartate ti kamera exei to tilefwno.

[gm2263]

Παίζει και αυτό. Άμα έχει φακούς Carl Zeiss ας πούμε και είναι 5 MPixel, ε, τότε αλλάζει το πράγμα. Και όντως σε φάσεις λέει να έχεις μια κάμερα σχετικά καλή μαζί σου για οτιδήποτε.

Τέλως πάντων, στο θέμα μας.

We switch to English for our friends from abroad.

Taken from last winter.

-Kifissias Avenue partial view form the terrace or the "Avenue" (Carrefour) Mall. You see the typical lowrise buildings in the facade of the avenue.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/gm2263/Athens%20Skyscrapers%20and%20Modern%20Architecture%203/Athens-KifissiasAvenue-fromCarrefou.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/gm2263/Athens%20Skyscrapers%20and%20Modern%20Architecture%203/Agoracenter-Overall3-FromCarrefour-.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/gm2263/Athens%20Skyscrapers%20and%20Modern%20Architecture%203/Athens-KifissiasAvenue-fromCarre-2.jpg

In some of them the top of the Atrina Centre is visible.

[NickyF]

this is the effect of the eu-membership...

i hope you will take us in the eu too... :|

Dear friend

The EU does not mandate building heights nor plot site ratios. It is upto individual member states to determine the most aprpopriate building controls for their urban and rural areas.

We also look forward to that momentous day in the future when the Turkish Republic, after satisfying the EU's entry criteria will be become a fully fledged member of this prestigious body.....

[AEK]

We also look forward to that momentous day in the future when the Turkish Republic
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Alli douleia den exoume?

[gm2263]

Παιδιά για όνομα του Θεού, απαντάτε σε post με ημερομηνία Απρίλιος 2006 τοχετε πάρει χαμπάρι; :lol:

LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL...

[oxidan]

miss more pics about the kifissia cafes.. would be nice see it.. !!!

[nals]

We also look forward to that momentous day in the future when the Turkish Republic
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Alli douleia den exoume?

ποτε βρε συ, και ΠΩΣ θα "γίνουν δικά μας" οταν μόνο η Πόλη εχει δεκαπέντε εκατομύρια πληθυσμό και όλη η Ελλάδα εντεκα εκατομμυρια με το ζόρι; Η γείτονα χώρα έχει ξεπεράσει τα εβδομηντα-τεσσερα εκατομμύρια κόσμο.

οταν γράφεις κάτι, σκέπτεσαι προηγουμένως;

[pilotos]

Συγνώμη άλλα παρατηρώ ότι γενικά βγαίνεις εκτός θέματος, προσπάθησε να σχολιάζεις τα θέματα του κάθε νήματος, για τα υπόλοιπα έχουμε το συμπόσιο :cheers: , και βασικά ότι είναι γραμμένο κάτω απο την "Γραμμή" είναι η υπογραφή του κάθε μέλους :)