What you want for big dig in Miami? Need redevelopment new highway?

Big dig? Probably a way to connect I-95 to another expressway where it terminates at US-1. I know that people instead head west on 836 when they know they need to head to west Miami-Dade. I guess I-95 at this point becomes nothing more than a local access road for the Coral Gables/grove/Dadeland area.

theyll make us-1 a full highway one day... no need for it now... but in maybe 50 years or so... gonna b a real bitch tho with all the retail they got on it...

There's always the big dig that would happen if they put the I-395 below grade. Which they should. Turning US-1 into a highway just isn't possible.

There's several tunnel ideas out there right now. There's the port tunnel, the miami river tunnel and the conversion of 395 to a cut highway.

I had an idea of making I-95 cut over the entrance to the Rickenbacker and then out to Biscayne Bay after they dredged up an artificial narrow "key" which paralleled the coast until Pinecrest, and then cut back in ti 826/US-1. It just an idea... :)

Idea No. 2. Create the Miami Skyway. Make an elevated expressway-- or express-lanes right above the Metrorail elevated line with pylons over the median of US-1; so that one edge of the highway bridge is to the north or even with the Metrorail line, and the southern edge is halfway over US-1. Very radical-- but Miami-Dade already owns the land. And it REALLY becomes necessary, it is potentially a route-- even though an unsightly route

It would have to be express lanes out to the Palmetto to work. Do I need to be committed for this outrageous idea? I'm at the insane asylum using the library computer as we speak. :)

IF it becomes necessary... IF. I need to learn how to type better.

IMHO, burying 395 is absolutely the dumbest idea any elected official has come up with in the past hundred years. To put its $600 million (give or take a few hundred) cost in perspective... that's more than it cost to demolish and rebuild every inch of I-95 in Broward County. Will burying 395 get anyone to work faster? No. Will it revitalize and re-energize Overtown? It doesn't matter... Overtown is going to be bulldozed and rebuilt into a wealthy bayfront neighborhood with outrageously expensive condos and townhomes before 2015 ANYWAY. Sure... they ought to rebuild the bridges higher and prettier since they're approaching the end of their design lives anyway... but there's no reason to burn Dade County's entire road budget for the next decade on a mile-long strip of highway. They can build pretty above-ground bridges for a lot less that will look almost as nice (like the bridge over I-4 just north of Universal Studios by the new Mall).

On the other hand, I'm rather fond of the idea of seeing South Dixie Highway transformed into the South Dixie Skyway. I think current highway engineering is perfectly capable of building a high double-deck road with 3 lanes in each direction above Metrorail (supported by widely-spaced pairs of pillars straddling the existing Metrorail track and/or existing road). South of Dadeland, they could add the extended Metrorail line itself to the stack and share the pillars among both. The only real bitch would be handling the whole Dadeland interchange without turning it into Golden Glades, Part Deux (snarled 24/7 clusterf**k mess).

I absolutely love the idea of building I-95 *under* US-1 like the Big Dig, but can't imagine any scenario likely to happen over the next 50 years where THAT would be even remotely affordable, let alone cost-effective and sensible. Maybe someday when nanotech advances to the point where they could make "tunnel-extrusion factories" using billions of nanobots to build a deep tunnel and liquefy the mud and rock inside so it can flow out, it might work... but I'm not holding my breath.

I'll tell you what-- I drove up Biscayne to the PAC yesterday--- 395 is one ugly overpass. They gotta do something.

canes... i luv the south dixie skyway... although i dont think there is enough traffic to justify it just yet... i think ud have to have complete 24 hour bumper to bumper before something like that ever gets built, and even then, theyll prob go with the 95 tunnel under us1 idea, simply because the businesses along us1 would never allow an eyesore like that to block out their sun... till then, were aite for now


im all for making the 395 a tunnel with park land on top, thats wat i think should be done, and the probably about one billion dollar price tag would be worth it... im sure that in the process of land aquizition, they would get some land that they would be able to sell off later at double the prices, cause prices along the parks would sore, not totally repaying it, but partially helping, as would property taxes somewat... would be worth it in the long run

well i feel that if you do something with 395 we should do something with 95

95 is just too huge... i think that would have to be done in hundreds of small projects over the next century... no way we could do 95 in one swath... just not possible

395 has to go. It can't handle the load now and it's getting old. So subtract whatever it'll take to rebuild a new bridge and then tear down 395 and that's the actual figure you get for burying it. If I'm not mistaken, they would need the land either way.

The whole point of this is urbanism and a skyway mirroring US1 would do nothing for urbansim. Think of how bad that would be for the planned, and possible future TOD projects springing up around the metrorail lines. It'd be bad enough living next to that. Forget it if you add 6 lane highway noise to it. You want to encourage more sprawl in southern and western Dade, then go ahead and build more roads, completely ignoring the needs of those in the inner suburbs where we have actual transit. US1 really isn't that bad. I live in Kendall and take it almost every day.

exactly... a us1 expansion simply isnt needed at this point

exactly... a us1 expansion simply isnt needed at this point

All kidding aside, they could probably achieve 80% of the benefit by digging a trench just through South Miami between Red Road and 878, with 4 lanes for local traffic cantilevered above (so everyone heading to 878, Dadeland, or further south would have a clear, traffic light-free run all the way through town).

Count the traffic lights between I-95 and Red Road. For the most part, there are MAYBE 2 signaled intersections per mile, and the signals are all well-synchronized to keep traffic moving. Until you get to South Miami, where you suddenly hit a half-dozen traffic lights in the first half-mile alone. Look at the morning traffic. For the most part, the worst of the morning northbound traffic jam dissipates once you're north of Red Road. The evening southbound traffic jam doesn't clear up quite as dramatically south of 67th Ave, but THAT'S mainly the busway's fault (turning right used to be a trivial non-event... now it's a major ceremony).

Here's what's wrong with building a park over a new, buried I-395:

* water-logged dirt below a grassy field is one of the heaviest things you can actually put over a buried road. It's nonstructural, and incredibly heavy. I know, because I've looked into what has to be done to put a yard on a roof and found out just how much just ONE cubic foot of waterlogged dirt actually weighs (50-90 pounds, depending on composition). At least buildings can sit on their own pilings, independent of the road. Build a park, and the road's tunnel has to bear all the weight itself.

* Downtown Miami needs a wide, grassy field about as badly as Anchorage, Alaska needs a "Winter Wonderland" park. Bicentennial park, Bayfront Park, and about a dozen other large parks are already there. They're just mostly ignored because they're currently overrun with homeless people and crack addicts. As the area gets redeveloped and new residents push them out, everyone's going to realize that Miami has an INCREDIBLE amount of urban parkland, just waiting to be discovered, cleaned up, and used.

* The REAL likelihood of "reclaimed" land above a new I-395... or even where the current road sits now... EVER being sold or put to economically productive use is practically nil. FDOT will make it nearly impossible to build any non-governmental building in the buried road's footprint simply because they can, and the Overtown black community would endlessly bitch and moan about exploitation and discrimination if the land in the current road's footprint actually got sold to the highest bidder and became the site of more expensive condos, and maybe a plaza with big box stores. Ultimately, they'd end up giving the land to some nonprofit organization instead, because it would be easier than fighting a public relations race war. The losers? Everyone else, who'd end up paying for what would be a very, vey expensive gift to charity and suffering from even WORSE traffic because Dade County wouldn't have any money left to spend on road improvements that might actually make traffic a little better.

Is the current I-395 butt-ugly? Yeah. Does it need to be rebuilt? Yes... as a widened elevated road with higher and nicer-looking bridges.

My idea:

build a long, high, architecturally-stunning theatrically-illuminated cable-stayed bridge spanning nearly the entire mile between the I-95 interchange and the causeway. In between the support columns (probably 1/10 to 1/4 mile apart), the road deck would sit HIGH above the surrounding area... high enough to barely impact sunlight below for most of the day, even in the area below. Aside from the area immediately surrounding the columns, nothing in between would HAVE to be demolished, and the existing road could be left mostly untouched until the new bridge were completed and the time came to divert traffic to the new route. This new bridge would be visible for MILES, and would be a spectacular addition to Miami's skyline as it soared high enough to let anyone at ground level have a nearly unobstructed view of the PAC.

that should be cha ching

My idea:

build a long, high, architecturally-stunning theatrically-illuminated cable-stayed bridge spanning nearly the entire mile between the I-95 interchange and the causeway. In between the support columns (probably 1/10 to 1/4 mile apart), the road deck would sit HIGH above the surrounding area... high enough to barely impact sunlight below for most of the day, even in the area below. Aside from the area immediately surrounding the columns, nothing in between would HAVE to be demolished, and the existing road could be left mostly untouched until the new bridge were completed and the time came to divert traffic to the new route. This new bridge would be visible for MILES, and would be a spectacular addition to Miami's skyline as it soared high enough to let anyone at ground level have a nearly unobstructed view of the PAC.


i've been saying this since the first day i joined this site,a bridge instead of 395 would look great but $ is always a factor especially since it seems that only kax and tampa get nice bridges and we get crap

Depending on how you want to look at it, an architecturally-stunning bridge would either cost twice as much as doing the bare minimum to keep the road standing, or half as much as burying the road. Either way, it's still several orders of magnitude cheaper than burying the road. There's just no sane, rational justification for burying a road in an area where there's actually an amazing amount of open/disused land to begin with. Now, if the whole area were solid skyscrapers and burying it were the only way to shoehorn it in (like, say, in Honolulu or Manhattan, or even Boston) it might make sense. But that area barely even qualifies as "downtown", besides the fact that it's historically been a dangerous slum, and sadly enough "slum" is one of the first things people in America think of when they hear "downtown".

i think that buryin it would be worth it simply becasue this highway cuts through that area, and cuts a deep gash between the pac/midtown area, and downtown, when these are really just the same are with a highway in the middle, but theres no flow between the two, because theyres a massive highway in the middle, burying this would make the pac/midtown/downtown, one great big area, and just that makes it all worth it

I think I'm going to spew chunks if I hear anyone call it a "gash" or "wound" one more time. It's a building. A big, long building that's mostly open beneath. A butt-ugly building, but that can be changed.

If *anything* constitutes a gash through the area, it's the FEC railroad tracks that screw up just about *everything* at ground level because they own a *huge* right of way that's basically a trash-littered strip of public blight.

Here's an example of what a rebuilt I-395 could look like:

http://www.texasfreeway.com/Austin/photos/183/images/183_elevated_C_17-oct-2001_lres.jpghttp://www.texasfreeway.com/Austin/photos/183/images/183_elevated_C_17-oct-2001_lres.jpg

Of course, in Miami it would have lots of landscaping in the middle area beneath the road... but it shows what a modern elevated freeway can look like with a little attention given to aesthetics.

If FDOT builds anything as an underground road, it should be an extension of state road 112 all the way west to the Turnpike... say, in an open cut, 20 feet deep, with NW 36/41 st cantilevered over the sides. Now THAT would be something worth spending money on, because it would provide a good east-west alternative to 836.

Miami Canes :) , I'm looking through my yearlyglass, and see 10 years from now, the F.D.O.T. has done Nothing with the I-395 expressway, and I see the 57 - 58 floor Opus 1 Tower conpleted next to the Completed Performing Arts Center and many people walking into the two Halls from their condos from the Opus 1 tower, and I also see the Opus 2 Tower also under construction near the I-395, lol. :cheers: also, Go Cranes !!! :)

I like the idea of doing something for Dixie since although it may not be bumper to bumper traffic 24/7, it is a hassle to drive through the area if you want to go from downtown to Dadeland, or farther, any day or time. Just taking the dolphin expressway to the palmetto is just bad because the airport traffic sux and the interchanges isn't that great and well... traffic just sux. Haha.

Although making a big dig is definitely unfeasible, and although i do like the idea of making a new "key" by having the highway go out into the sea south of downtown and then reconnect somewhere in dadeland with the palmetto or something... we all know that would mean $$$$$$$$$$$$ x 1000000 so yah.

What I would recommend is making US 1 a super street, like Allen Parkway or Memorial (inside 610 loop) in Houston. Unfortunately I don't have pictures of those, although I'm sure they can be found in any of their forums. But basically the idea is that the super street functions like highways in a street format, with underpasses at intersections (and ramps for those so you can still make a left or right turn). The only bad thing I can forsee about this is the driveway entrances facing US 1 for the retail businesses. But... a portion of Allen parkway has a little feeder road separated from the "mini-highway" with nice landscaping... perhaps that concept can be used but to enter a feeder road, you'll have to exit using a ramp at one of the intersections (having too many ramps just don't work well if there's plenty of traffic as that would probably cause a mess in the feeder road and the feeder road is like one or two lane).

We shouldn't have to worry much about the side of US1 by the Metrorail since there's no major commercial properties between US 1 and the Metrorail. This would save Miami a lot of money compared to the big dig idea. I hope this makes sense!

So yah that's my suggestion -- a mini highway with 1 lane ramps for intersections and the 3 lanes highway going underneath (under the intersections, it would be 2 lanes and a feeder road being 1 lane (2 or 3 at intersections so that cars can be split to making left and right turns and so the "mini-highway" ramp traffic won't conflict with the feeder traffic.

Another mini-project I think is badly-needed would be the construction of two new ramps between 878 and the Palmetto to provide a direct route to US-1: one from westbound 878 to northbound 826, and one from southbound 826 to eastbound 878. As Kendall Drive becomes more congested from Downtown Dadeland, and Sunset Drive becomes increasingly patrolled by South Miami cops to punish drivers who use it instead, having a direct route between US-1 and the Palmetto will become increasingly important.

Another mini-project I think is badly-needed would be the construction of two new ramps between 878 and the Palmetto to provide a direct route to US-1: one from westbound 878 to northbound 826, and one from southbound 826 to eastbound 878. As Kendall Drive becomes more congested from Downtown Dadeland, and Sunset Drive becomes increasingly patrolled by South Miami cops to punish drivers who use it instead, having a direct route between US-1 and the Palmetto will become increasingly important.

They should redo the entire Palmetto. The whole Palmetto is pretty much messed up. There are many times when I see an exit sign or an entrance ramp being marked on the left side of the street when it's really on the right side and vice versa.

And if you're heading north on Palmetto approaching Dolphin Expressway wanting to go to Dolphin Mall, you soon realize that... there's no westbound ramp onto Dolphin Expressway! It's really messed up. Even some Venezuelans have said the highway engineers in Miami are the worst they've ever seen.

And imagine to my amazement, I was driving on Dolphin one time near Dolphin Mall (this was 2 years ago I think) and I took a ramp to go north on the Turnpike, only to realize that it was really a ramp into a construction zone since the ramp was never finished. They never blockaded it even though there was nobody working there. Truly third world. The highways aren't very tourist friendly at all.

isn't there also the problem of the difficulty of digging in the ground in and around miami? there are no houses in miami with basements, save for those built on artificial inclines. this is because several feet down the soil gives way to coral/limestone, very difficult and costly to chop up for underground construction. a whole tunnel encompassing an artery of highway would be nearly impossible, i'm thinking, with these conditions.

Actually the real reason you dont see basements in Miami is because there is no need for them...

Think about it. Up North Basements are needed to secure the foundation of the house so that when winter time comes and the ground freezes, the house doesn't crack or fall apart due to the change in the foundation. In Miami the ground never freezes. Building downwards is much more expensive everywhere than building Upwards, so why add extra costs to all buildings when a basement isnt really needed? Logical.

It is actually easier to tunnel through most parts of Miami than say London. The limestone provides a great foundation and is easy to bore holes through when compared to some other rocks up north. The only additional cost you face in Miami when digging down is the cost to drain the land, however this is done at nearly every construction site already and usually takes just a couple of months.

interesting, i always thought the other way around. cool to know.

Actually, there are a bunch of homes in Wynwood/Buena Vista, and scattered around Little Havana, that have real, honest-to-god basements (they were built by Miami's original settlers from Ohio who built them like that out of habit). There are even basements in South Beach. Geologically, South Beach is actually dry and stable enough to built a cut & cover subway. The only technical issue is finding a way to dry-floodproof it so it won't get inundated by storm surge from a hurricane that puts the whole island under a few inches of water (all surface portals and vents would have to be waterproof and extend above the highest likely flood line, so you'd have to take an escalator UP, then down into the station).

The lack of basements in new homes is purely economic in nature... it costs less to build a home on a slab instead of over a basement. Since there's no need to dig a hole of ANY depth for the foundation here, someone wanting a basement would essentially eat 100% of the excavation cost. Unless they've already maxed out their lot's footprint and they're bumping up against a height limit, there's no good reason to build a basement because it would cost roughly half as much to just enlarge the first and/or second floor. First-rate, habitable, totally dry basements with egress windows cost WAY more to build than the run-of-the-mill slightly damp basements with tiny/no windows that most homes up north settle for.

They should redo the entire Palmetto. The whole Palmetto is pretty much messed up. There are many times when I see an exit sign or an entrance ramp being marked on the left side of the street when it's really on the right side and vice versa.
The Palmetto has been under reconstruction since the early 90s. It is being redone in segments. Improvements include complete reconstruction of the roadway, addition of one lane in each direction, improved signage, brand-new (and higher) overpasses, etc.

Regarding entrances: you probably experienced confusion at the interchanges that haven't been worked on yet: Flagler St, SW 8th St (Tamiami Trail/Calle Ocho), SW 24th St (Coral Way), SW 40th St (Bird Road), and SW 56th St (Miller Drive), all of which are south of 836. Most of the work that has been done so far is north of 836 and south of NW 154th Street (Miami Lakes Drive), the last exit before the Big Curve. And all the rebuilt interchanges have very clearly marked entrances. Nice thing about the Palmetto is that there are no left exits, except in two places: at the Golden Glades Interchange and at state road 874.

Right now four interchanges are being redone entirely: NW 36th Street, NW 74th Street, US 27(Okeechobee Rd), and South River Drive.

The old 36th St interchange was a full cloverleaf, a design which is known to be dangerous due to weaving of traffic at different speeds, as well as the heavy truck traffic this roadway experiences. The new design calls for a "parclo" (partial cloverleaf), which will be more efficient for the area. Currently a new bridge is being built but traffic has not yet shifted to it.
US 27(Okeechobee Rd) and South River Drive are diagonal highways that run parallel to each other, with a canal dividing them. Formerly a full cloverleaf joined these two roadways together. Now the roadway is being converted to what appears to be a modified diamond with a flyover from westbound ("north") US 27 to southbound 826.
NW 74th Street: new bridge, wider shoulders.


Completed projects:

NW 103rd Street, bridge rebuilt, signage improvements, and flyover for westbound to southbound 826 movement. "Texas U-turn" for exiting southbound traffic added for direct access to frontage road and Westland Mall (W 20th Avenue).
NW 122nd Street, bridge rebuilt, improved signage, one of the few entrances where northbound traffic enters via a cloverleaf. Clearly marked in both directions.
I-75 interchange, severely congested flyover was widened to two lanes.
NW 25th Street, bridge rebuilt, improved signage.
NW 58th Street, one of the few interchanges where the roadway passes over the expressway. Rebuilt, higher clearance, landscaping added. Dual left-turn entrance ramps.
SW 88th Street (Kendall Drive) ans SW 72nd Street (Sunset Drive), the only complete segment south of 836: complete reconstruction, including flyover for eastbound 88th Street to northbound 826, and construction of frontage road for direct access to the Dadeland Mall Circle.
East-west Palmetto from the Big Curve to the Golden Glades Interchange: complete road resurfacing, addition of additional "exit only" lanes for eastbound NW 67th Avenue and NW 57th Avenue.


And if you're heading north on Palmetto approaching Dolphin Expressway wanting to go to Dolphin Mall, you soon realize that... there's no westbound ramp onto Dolphin Expressway! It's really messed up. Even some Venezuelans have said the highway engineers in Miami are the worst they've ever seen.
That is a well-known "flaw" in the 836/826 interchange that is in the planning/redesign stage right now, featuring a stack interchange with additional flyovers. This isn't to say that it's impossible to head westbound to 836 from northbound 826. It's done all the time. A long time ago 836 ended at the Palmetto and these were the only movements necessary. A westbound solution was done in a piecemeal fashion, probably due to lack of funds. To go westbound what is currently required (and what is clearly marked) is to take 836 east, stay in the far right lane, and follow the westbound signs, which will take you through two cloverleafs via NW 72nd Avenue to reorient you in the westbound direction. When the entire interchange is rebuilt, it will feature free movement in all directions.

And imagine to my amazement, I was driving on Dolphin one time near Dolphin Mall (this was 2 years ago I think) and I took a ramp to go north on the Turnpike, only to realize that it was really a ramp into a construction zone since the ramp was never finished. They never blockaded it even though there was nobody working there. Truly third world. The highways aren't very tourist friendly at all.

I remember when that was under construction... When the new northbound ramp was under construction, there was a temporary ramp that was being used a few hundred feet beyond the new ramp. I don't remember it being exposed but I remember seeing detour signs.

On a side note: taking 836 west to the Turnpike to go to Dolphin Mall is something to avoid, since the NW 12th Street exit has a toll. The best way to go is to exit at NW 107th Ave and turn left at NW 12th or 14th streets.

Sounds like your travels were pretty extensive. :)

I remember when that was under construction... When the new northbound ramp was under construction, there was a temporary ramp that was being used a few hundred feet beyond the new ramp. I don't remember it being exposed but I remember seeing detour signs.

On a side note: taking 836 west to the Turnpike to go to Dolphin Mall is something to avoid, since the NW 12th Street exit has a toll. The best way to go is to exit at NW 107th Ave and turn left at NW 12th or 14th streets.

Sounds like your travels were pretty extensive. :)

Yah that northbound ramp at the Turnpike was exposed. I took it because thinking that it was exposed and to my right, that it would take me to Dolphin Mall. Later did I realize that taking 107 was far better (and toll-free) than taking that ramp. Unfortunately it was my first time in the area and I didn't see a detour sign. And it was in the evening and the sign that I saw said that if you wanted to go to Dolphin Mall, to take Turnpike and take the first exit.

Oh, and yah, I love to travel all around Miami. In a way, I could easily be a Miamense. ;-)

I can't wait for them to finish redoing the Palmetto south of Dolphin. I hope they'll start working on that soon. Hopefully within 5 years -- considering that they've been working on the Palmetto since the 90's... But that's probably too optimistic.

Oh... "Texas U-turn?" Am I taking U-turns at highway intersections for granted? I realize now that I haven't seen many U-turns on highways in Miami... I'm trying hard to think of one. :-/ We should gripe to the city about making those. Haha. They make driving around so much easier!

^what do you mean making a u-turn at highways? u can make a u-turn while on a highway, lol


wow, thats some funny experience u had, the incomplete ramp, lets hope they make a complete interchange at the turnpike and 836 when they extend 836 to 137, and tell em to make us a direct ramp from northbound turnpke to westbound 836 lool

I was referring to "Texas U-turns," which are special ramps that are built at intersections with expressways to allow U-turning without stopping at the traffic light, because the U-turn occurs BEFORE the light in a protected lane. Otherwise, at a regular diamond interchange, a motorist has to go through two lights to turn around.

Miaballinboi -- *I am not sure if I want to see you do that. HAHA! One more crazy driver to the scary mix.*

My dad said that driving in Miami is sooo dangerous because you have immigrants that don't know the driving rules, senior citizens that forget them, confusion over signals and signs, and the good drivers that stands in the highway like roadblock for other drivers which all adds up to a typical Miamian commute. And you, making an U-turn without even getting off the highway... spooky! :-)

And Texas U-turns... I wuv them! And they're really shaped like a "U" :-P HAHA

A Texas U-turn, shown in red:

http://home.att.net/~texhwyman/h_imgs/trnarnd1.gif

U-turns are permitted on divided highways in Florida, except where otherwise posted.

I still don't get how people could get confused about signals and signs... this city is on a grid, one that's VERY well thought out... It perplexes me... and we have signs that tell you what the next intersection is going to be ( "xxxxxx Street NEXT SIGNAL" ) , etc. etc.

A Texas U-turn:

http://home.att.net/~texhwyman/h_imgs/trnarnd1.gif
^^ Oh, I've seen them and I worship them! LOL. I just haven't recall seeing any in Miami. :-/ Only here in Texas. I haven't really driven anywhere else other than Texan cities and Ft. Lauderdale / Miami. :-/ (except of course, for the seldom trip from Houston, TX to Miami, FL to save budget -- but with this high gas prices going on, i doubt that'll happen anytime soon again)

A Texas U-turn, shown in red:

http://home.att.net/~texhwyman/h_imgs/trnarnd1.gif

U-turns are permitted on divided highways in Florida, except where otherwise posted.

I still don't get how people could get confused about signals and signs... this city is on a grid, one that's VERY well thought out... It perplexes me... and we have signs that tell you what the next intersection is going to be ( "xxxxxx Street NEXT SIGNAL" ) , etc. etc.

Well, I'm talking about the confusion that got me onto that construction ramp -- my dad was with me in the car I was driving in. Haha...

And of course, about the messed up signs someone mentioned that only existed at some intersections at the Palmetto south of the Dolphin with entrance ramps for the freeways being placed on the wrong side of the street, pointing in wrong directions?

This we saw often, considering that we stay at my grandmother's house by Miller.

In Miami-Dade there are a couple Texas U-turns that I can think of:

* Palmetto Expressway, southbound 826, at NW 103rd Street, loop to northbound W 20th Ave frontage road.

* Palmetto Expressway, southbound 826, at SW 88th Street, loop to Dadeland Mall Circle.

* William Lehman Causeway (SR 856), westbound, at West Country Club Drive, loop to South Country Club Drive.

In Broward, Interstate 595's exits from University Drive west to SW 136th Avenue all have them, as well as I-75 west of 595/Sawgrass interchange.