World City Subways

[UptownGuy]

hello all,
I apologize for starting a new thread on a broad ranged topic. But, I was searching for pics of certain station and there are threads, but the pics dont always show up. So if you coul dhelp me please. :) I would like pics of ORDINARY, COMMON, GRAND, AND SPECTACULAR subway stations in each of these world cities: London, Paris, Madrid, Moscow, Tokyo, Hong Kong. Perhaps if there are any cities you deem as TRULY world cities, post pics of them too. THANKS!

[DrJoe]

I know you didnt specifically ask for any of Toronto pictures but here is some anyway....Toronto has quite a plain subway, it isnt flashy but it is extremly well run and high frequency system and generally quite clean.

Some average typical stuff you'll see in TO.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/Photo35.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/9064031.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/subway-5106-11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/78228037BKsElo_ph.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/img_34569.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/39622587.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/Photo41.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/Photo33.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/ttc02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/RIMG1097.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/gf_curtis/TTC%20and%20GO/176674862vFOXvi_ph.jpg

[UptownGuy]

Torontos subway looks like New Yorks. Thanks for the pics!

[hkskyline]

London Underground

http://img66.exs.cx/img66/772/dscn423924fm.jpg

http://img144.exs.cx/img144/7371/dscn47585va.jpg

Stunning
http://img66.exs.cx/img66/562/dscn474128ad.jpg

http://img66.exs.cx/img66/6460/dscn474628jv.jpg

New
http://img144.exs.cx/img144/6530/dscn47534kq.jpg

[hkskyline]

Hong Kong

http://img36.exs.cx/img36/9766/tkl02.jpg

http://img36.exs.cx/img36/1610/tkl01.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/kowloonphotos2003/mtr/Rimg1868.jpg

[UptownGuy]

London's looks like NY's as well.That last pic makes me think HK's is similar as well?

[asohn]

London's looks like NY's as well.That last pic makes me think HK's is similar as well?

Well, i wouldn't really say those stations looks too much like NY's. Most NY station are not tubes, like most London stations, but are rather cut and cover (meaning they dug deep trenches, built the station 50-70 feet below ground, and filled the trench in). This aspect is a big difference between NY and other systems who use mostly tubes.

[Zoowatch]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/Station1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/Station3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/SystemMap.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/25.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/23.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/24.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/19.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/Station4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/HuaLamphongStation43.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/PhetchaburiStation5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Zoowatch/Depot4.jpg

[DonQui]

Madrid: all google images

http://www.marioff.com/applications/land/met_station.jpg
http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/especiales/2003/01/madrid2012/madrid/metro.jpg
http://www.antelope.com.au/applications/madrid_metro.jpg
http://www.tonynuccio.com/europe/photographs/spain/madrid/madrid69.jpg
http://blogs.bootsnall.com/jazz/archives/madrid%20subway.JPG
http://dest.travelocity.com/website/destinations/photos/100_003.jpg
http://www.pendar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Tube/Misc/4_MadridMetro.jpg
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/mad/L9-arganda1x.jpg

When I visit Madrid in a few months I will post my own pictures as opposed to sponging off other people's pics.

[raymond_tung88]

Very nice pictures... I'm surprised Tokyo's subway hasn't been posted yet because it is definately world-class...

[DonQui]

Tokyo's subway is very efficient. It has one of the biggest network of subway lines in the world. Only New York, London, Paris, and Berlin can rival that.

Madrid's metro is now larger than Paris', making it the second largest in Western Europe.

[raymond_tung88]

Madrid's metro is now larger than Paris', making it the second largest in Western Europe.

My mistake... truly sorry. I forgot to include Madrid. I thought Barcelona had a bigger subway network, but I guess not...

[ailiton]

More Hong Kong:

http://www2.hkedcity.net/sch_files/a/lmc/lmc-011228/public_html/kowloonstation_3.png

http://www2.hkedcity.net/sch_files/a/lmc/lmc-011228/public_html/kowloonstation_2.png

http://www2.hkedcity.net/sch_files/a/lmc/lmc-011228/public_html/kowloonstation_1.png

http://www.pbase.com/nicthe/image/34653459.jpg

http://img135.exs.cx/img135/4987/hk136wl.jpg

http://members19.clubphoto.com/_cgi-bin/getImage.pl?imgID=36654133-f151&trans=

[UptownGuy]

Thanks everyone! Subways are great! I love riding on them! Thanks for the Bangkok pics, I know someone who recently visited that city. In terms of track length what are the largest subway systems in the world? Im thinking (in order) 1. London 2. New York 3. paris? I might be off, I dunno.

[asohn]

Thanks everyone! Subways are great! I love riding on them! Thanks for the Bangkok pics, I know someone who recently visited that city. In terms of track length what are the largest subway systems in the world? Im thinking (in order) 1. London 2. New York 3. paris? I might be off, I dunno.

i think the place of number one is debatable between New York in London. Depeneding on what you factor in, you can get varying answers. In all my knowledge though, NY is number one. As far as i know, it has more stations and more track length than london.

[nick_taylor]

^^ But track length is not exactly a good gauge of area covered. London is longer by route length, ie in more area covered, just like New York has more stations, ie more area covered.

[Bitxofo]

My mistake... truly sorry. I forgot to include Madrid. I thought Barcelona had a bigger subway network, but I guess not...

Madrid metro: 226.90km + 40km under construction before 2008
Barcelona metro: 106.40km + 110km under construction before 2010
;)
P.S.: DonQui come to Barcelona, too!
:)

[DonQui]

Madrid metro: 226.90km + 40km under construction before 2008
Barcelona metro: 106.40km + 110km under construction before 2010
;)
P.S.: DonQui come to Barcelona, too!
:)

I will be visiting both cities, just bought the tickets today! I am planning to travel to Spain for a week at the end of June and beginning of July with high school friends. I will be posting a thread about this in a couple of months in the Spanish forum!

[GoodGuy]

Athens Subway Entrances, Stations and Museums

http://assets.in.gr/dGenesis/assets/Content5/Photo/553647_b.jpg
http://assets.in.gr/dGenesis/assets/Content5/Photo/552819_b.jpg
http://assets.in.gr/dGenesis/assets/Content5/Photo/552247_b.jpg
http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication//gallery/images/stations/24/080904_2.jpg
http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication//gallery/images/stations/23/plakentia_280704.jpg
http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication//gallery/images/stations/23/doukplak2gv1.jpg
http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication//gallery/images/stations/22/halandri_290704.jpg
http://www.mpa.gr/specials/olympics_economics/images/metro-xalandri.jpg
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/ath/syntagma2.jpg
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/ath/syntagma1.jpg

http://www.athensguide.com/photoalbum/athens/metro2.JPG
http://www.pbase.com/image/5101248.jpg
http://www.athensguide.com/photoalbum/athens/metro2.JPG
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gr/metro/AgDimitrios.jpg
http://www.2004photos.com/gallery/galleries/Athens%20-%20Transportation/190804-190749.jpg
http://www.2004photos.com/gallery/galleries/Soccer%20Semifinal%20-%20Karaiskaki%20Stadium/P1010027.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gr/metro/P8200005.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295851/0/Athens+Airport+-+Train+Station+5+-+Suburban+Train+Quays.JPG
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis/31716/377584/0/marousi3.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gtsiaussidis/31716/377581/0/iraklio.jpg
http://www.athensguide.com/best/metrostation.jpg
http://www.in-athens.com/sightseeng/metro2.jpg
http://www.in-athens.com/sightseeng/metro3.jpg
http://www.ametro.gr/main/publicinfo/images/evangelismos.gif http://www.ametro.gr/main/publicinfo/images/akropoli_sl-1.gif
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295813/0/Halandri+Station+2-+External+-+West.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295814/0/Halandri+Station+3-+External+-+Footbridge.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295818/0/Halandri+Station+7-
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295817/0/Halandri+Station+6-Interior+West.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295823/0/Halandri+Station+8-Interior+West-Elevator.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295825/0/Halandri+Station+10-+Stairway+to+Heaven+A.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295826/0/Halandri+Station+11-+Stairway+to+Heaven+B.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295827/0/Halandri+Station+12-+Modern+Art.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295828/0/Halandri+Station+13-+Interior+East.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295831/0/Halandri+Station+14-+Interior+West.jpg
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/ath/omonia1.jpg
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/ath/akropoli4.jpg
http://www.boostdam.net/2003GREECE/20030515-ATHENS_metro.jpg http://www.athensguide.org/athens-metro9.jpg
http://www.corporatelocation.com/Gifs/media/athens_metro.jpg
http://www.internetsearchandrescue.com/images/AthensMetro.JPGhttp://www.pizzocaro.com/stories/greece/metro/images/prevs/MP04UM05.jpg http://www.pizzocaro.com/stories/greece/metro/images/prevs/MP04UM24.jpg
http://www.pizzocaro.com/stories/greece/metro/images/prevs/MP04UM56.jpg http://www.pizzocaro.com/stories/greece/metro/images/prevs/MP04UM37.jpg http://www.pizzocaro.com/stories/greece/metro/images/prevs/MP04UM60.jpg http://www.pizzocaro.com/stories/greece/metro/images/prevs/MP04UM15.jpg
http://www.pizzocaro.com/stories/greece/metro/images/prevs/MP04UM64.jpg http://www.pizzocaro.com/stories/greece/metro/images/prevs/MP04UM67.jpg http://www.pizzocaro.com/stories/greece/metro/images/prevs/MP04UM01.jpghttp://www.pizzocaro.com/stories/greece/metro/images/prevs/MP04UM44.jpg

There are also high resolution pictures, very nice pictures. Here the links

Subway One (http://europa.eu.int/comm/regional_policy/themes/olympe/pictures/high/912_002_044.jpg)
Subway Museum (http://europa.eu.int/comm/regional_policy/themes/olympe/pictures/high/912_002_041.jpg)
Subway Museum 2 (http://europa.eu.int/comm/regional_policy/themes/olympe/pictures/high/GR-1032.jpg)
Subway Musuem Parthenon Statues (http://europa.eu.int/comm/regional_policy/themes/olympe/pictures/high/912_002_007.jpg)
Subway Museum Parthenon Statues 2 (http://europa.eu.int/comm/regional_policy/themes/olympe/pictures/high/912_002_039.jpg)

[LEAFS FANATIC]

The Athens Subway pics are incredible goodguy!!! :eek2:

Great job!!! Bravo!

[fredcalif]

Athens looks nice

[UptownGuy]

AThens subway is new isnt it? Built for the olympics?

[GoodGuy]

The Athens Sybway (Attiko Metro) is in operation since January 2000 with 24 Metro Stations. It was planned long before the Olympics but the Construction of the Network was pushed by them. At this time there are 13 Metro Stations under construction and 19 further Stations are getting planned.

[Bitxofo]

METRO LiST 2005
________________

World cities with more than 100 km. of full metro, updated 1/1/2005:

1. London ..................415,00km.
2. New York................398,00km.
3. Tokyo.....................292,30km.
4. Seoul......................286,90km.
5. Moscow...................279,30km.
6. Madrid.....................226,90km.
7. Paris........................211,99km.
8. Mexico City...............201,70km.
9. Washington...............171,20km.
10. San Francisco..........166,90km.
11. Chicago..................166,00km.
12. Berlin.....................144,10km.
13. Osaka....................113,60km.
14. Singapore...............109,00km.
15. Stockholm..............108,00km.
16. Barcelona...............106,40km.
17. Hamburg................101,00km.

Only full metro, NO light metros!
Copyright Jordi Serradell & DavoR from www.urbanrail.net
;)

[Rockford]

Seoul, a city with more people than New York, and much busier and denser. Although I'll leave it up to you to decide it's "world city" status. People here don't give a flying fuck. They are way too busy running down subway stairs.

http://www.korea-hotel-reservations.com/images/seoul_subway_map_s.gif


very typical entrance/exit
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:4jivPuuZf7QJ:www.seoulsearching.com/grfx/transportation/subwaye.jpg


very typical ticket machine (rarely used as over 80% use transit cards)
http://www.seoulsearching.com/grfx/transportation/subwaya.jpg

some newspaper readers
http://koreanow.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/img_dir/2004/08/24/200408240033.gif

Most of the stations are fairly utilitarian, but there is one that is quite impressive, Noksapyeong. To get from the train to street level requires four escalators, one of which is like four stories tall. If you took the stairs out, it's something like 125 steps.

http://town-m.vop.jp/photo/noksapyeong1a.jpg

http://www.seoulsearching.com/grfx/transportation/subwaye.jpg

the new Yongsan Station which is a combo subway/rail interchange
http://www.kwangmyong-station.com/process_img/20031025b.jpg


exit at World Cup Staion
http://www.nuku.de/photos/460/260.jpg

[UptownGuy]

Anyon ehave pics of Paris's?

[snot]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/snot/parismetromap.jpg

[UptownGuy]

Bitoxfo, converting those units into miles revealed that NY's and Londons subways are only about 250 (estimate) miles long. I thought NY had 722 miles of track on the subway? Anyone?

[CO2]

METRO LiST 2005

3. Tokyo.....................292,30km.
13. Osaka....................113,60km.

I've figured out the real numbers extending into the suburbs (extension lines operated by different companies). I think these numbers below should replace the ones above. These are the actual "total length" of the subway networks of these cities.

Tokyo 819.7km
Osaka 218.2km

And by the way Nagoya has 138km.

[Nodder]

Berlin's U-Bahn
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/a/a9/Karte_ubahn_berlin_entwicklung.png

U-Bahnhof Herrmannstraße
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/800px-U-Bahn_Berlin_Hermannplatz.JPG

The newest small profile train type HK
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/a/ac/800px-U-Bahn_Berlin_Baureihe_Hk.jpg

Traintype H
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/800px-U-Bahn_Berlin_Zugtyp_H.JPG

Class A3L92
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/800px-U-Bahn_Berlin_Zugtyp_A3L92.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/800px-U5_Schillingstrasse_5.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/800px-U-Bahn_Berlin_Alexanderplatz1.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/800px-U-Bahn_Berlin_Wittenberplatz.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/800px-U10_Innsbrucker_Platz.jpg

[Bitxofo]

I've figured out the real numbers extending into the suburbs (extension lines operated by different companies). I think these numbers below should replace the ones above. These are the actual "total length" of the subway networks of these cities.

Tokyo 819.7km
Osaka 218.2km

And by the way Nagoya has 138km.

NO sorry, it's only "full metro", NO light metro, NO suburban, NO trams... OK?
Otherwise Barcelona would be 682 km., for example...
You can check definitions at:

www.urbanrail.net
;)

[DonQui]

Bitoxfo, converting those units into miles revealed that NY's and Londons subways are only about 250 (estimate) miles long. I thought NY had 722 miles of track on the subway? Anyone?

track does not equal route length, which is the number I believe Bitxofo is quoting. For example, between 59th and 125th on the ABCD lines, you have I think 5 miles of route length (I am not sure how long Central Park is). Route length, it is still only 5 miles, but track length, it is 20 miles because there are two locals and two expresses going uptown and downton.

[beta29]

:okay: Thanks for your pics from Berlin Nodder :okay:
I also tried it to post pics from Berlin but it was impossible.
Show more..... :) :)
___________
Elagu Eesti

[beta29]

METRO LiST 2005
________________

World cities with more than 100 km. of full metro, updated 1/1/2005:

1. London ..................415,00km.
2. New York................398,00km.
3. Tokyo.....................292,30km.
4. Seoul......................286,90km.
5. Moscow...................279,30km.
6. Madrid.....................226,90km.
7. Paris........................211,99km.
8. Mexico City...............201,70km.
9. Washington...............171,20km.
10. San Francisco..........166,90km.
11. Chicago..................166,00km.
12. Berlin.....................144,10km.
13. Osaka....................113,60km.
14. Singapore...............109,00km.
15. Stockholm..............108,00km.
16. Barcelona...............106,40km.
17. Hamburg................101,00km.

Only full metro, NO light metros!
Copyright Jordi Serradell & DavoR from www.urbanrail.net
;)

Sorry, but the Berlin metro website(www.bvg.de) says that there are 152 km.
___________
Elagu Eesti

[AmiDelf]

How big is the Oslo metrosystem? Its very widespread as you see. All of the lightrail parts is used by subway wagons, so it can hardly be said as tram or lightrail.

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/osl/oslo-map.gif

Someone?

[CO2]

NO sorry, it's only "full metro", NO light metro, NO suburban, NO trams... OK?
Otherwise Barcelona would be 682 km., for example...
You can check definitions at:

www.urbanrail.net
;)
No 292.3km is operated by 2 subway companies in the inner areas and the rest of 527.1km is operated by either JR or private rail companies from the termii of each subway lines at the suburbs. For example 9 lines out of 13 lines in Tokyo do this. It's known as "Sougochokutsuunten" in Japanese, means "mutual through operations" amongst several rail companies. It's a very unique system in Japan, where the inner parts are owned and operated by what they are known as subway companies and the suburban parts are operated by other rail companies from the terminii of each subway lines. They are non-stop operations. Commuter rails, intercity rails, S-Bahn equivalents, light metros, LRTs, etc. are seperate from this figure. So it's technically 819.7km in Tokyo, 218.2km in Osaka, 138km in Nagoya, etc. in total.

I just want to say that elevated suburban tracks should also be considered as metro. I don't think underground tunnel tracks are what only define metro. There are plenty of other cities in the world consider elevated tracks as metro (in fact many metro lines operate elevated at suburbs everywhere in the world) so Japan should do the same. Strictly speaking, metros should only be the underground rail tracks. But NYC subway, London underground, Paris metro, etc. have many elevated tracks at their suburbs. Why can't Japan do the same?

[GNU]

^London doesn't have any elevated subway tracks,apart from the docklands light railway.
Which is,as the name says a light railway.
Berlin for example is another city which has plenty of elevated subway tracks.
In fact the elevated tracks for NY were modelled after the Berlin ones.

[CO2]

^London doesn't have any elevated subway tracks,apart from the docklands light railway.
Which is,as the name says a light railway.
Berlin for example is another city which has plenty of elevated subway tracks.
In fact the elevated tracks for NY were modelled after the Berlin ones.
DLR is a light metro. Most London tubes go out of the tunnels at the suburbs.

[GNU]

^ they go out of the tunnels,but they're not elevated.
And I personnally don't consider DLR as a real metro.But that is just my opinion

[DiggerD21]

I just want to say that elevated suburban tracks should also be considered as metro. I don't think underground tunnel tracks are what only define metro.

They are considered as Metro. For example 2/3 of Hamburgs Metro-system are elevated.

[DiggerD21]

^ they go out of the tunnels,but they're not elevated.
And I personnally don't consider DLR as a real metro.But that is just my opinion

When I've driven the Piccadilly Line, it was elevated in the suburbs like in Hamburg or Berlin.

[Bitxofo]

No 292.3km is operated by 2 subway companies in the inner areas and the rest of 527.1km is operated by either JR or private rail companies from the termii of each subway lines at the suburbs. For example 9 lines out of 13 lines in Tokyo do this. It's known as "Sougochokutsuunten" in Japanese, means "mutual through operations" amongst several rail companies. It's a very unique system in Japan, where the inner parts are owned and operated by what they are known as subway companies and the suburban parts are operated by other rail companies from the terminii of each subway lines. Commuter rails, intercity rails, S-Bahn equivalents, light metros, LRTs, etc. are seperate from this figure. So it's technically 819.7km in Tokyo, 218.2km in Osaka, 138km in Nagoya, etc. in total.

I just want to say that elevated suburban tracks should also be considered as metro. I don't think underground tunnel tracks are what only define metro. There are plenty of other cities in the world consider elevated tracks as metro (in fact many metro lines operate elevated at suburbs everywhere in the world) so Japan should do the same. Strictly speaking, metros should only be the underground rail tracks. But NYC subway, London underground, Paris metro, etc. have many elevated tracks at their suburbs. Why can't Japan do the same?

NO, sorry again!

The Metro List 2005 is done according to this:

What is a metro? A subway? An underground?

1) An urban electric mass rail transport system, i.e. it is primarily used to move within the city
2) Totally independent from other traffic, rail or street traffic
3) High frequency service (maximum interval approx. 10 minutes during normal daytime service)

Obviously a metro does not have to be underground (this is why I prefer this term to 'subway' or 'underground' or 'U-Bahn' as all these terms imply a tunnel), it can also be elevated or at grade. A metro does not necessarily use heavy rail technology, therefore the Docklands Light Railway or the Lille VAL are full metro services, with the only difference that their capacity is smaller according to the needs of the city/area they serve. It's also irrelevant whether the metro runs on steel wheels or rubber tyres, is monorail or conventional double rail, uses third rail power supply or overhead wire, is fully automated or has a driver, has standard, narrow or broad gauge.

There are many mixed forms nowadays and probably there will be even more in the future. In Europe (especially Germany and the Benelux) light rail systems (Stadtbahn, Premetro) have been bridging the gap between metros and trams for some decades now and provide, in most cases, a perfect service in their city. For the time being I can only cover these mixed systems (which I'd like to refer to as metroTrams) in Europe only, although also in America and Asia more and more networks of this kind are being built.

Copyright by www.urbanrail.net
;)

[Bitxofo]

track does not equal route length, which is the number I believe Bitxofo is quoting. For example, between 59th and 125th on the ABCD lines, you have I think 5 miles of route length (I am not sure how long Central Park is). Route length, it is still only 5 miles, but track length, it is 20 miles because there are two locals and two expresses going uptown and downton.

YES DonQui!
You are right counting route and NOT tracks length!
That is the correct way to do it.
;)
See my post above for "definitions"!
:)

[GNU]

^^^I have no idea what you mean by elevated.By elevated I meant a train that goes on a bridge kinda structure. and the Piccadilly Line does not do that,nor does any other underground train in London.The DLR is the only one.
All others will mainly go on ground level once they go overground.

[SpastiK]

CO2: bitxofo is talking about only "full Metro". The "Metro system" of Tokyo is managed by 2 companies only. So 292km.

The rest of rail systems are JR and private companies, both doing a "suburban service". This is not "metro", is "suburban train".

[Frog]

^^^I have no idea what you mean by elevated.By elevated I meant a train that goes on a bridge kinda structure. and the Piccadilly Line does not do that,nor does any other underground train in London.The DLR is the only one.
All others will mainly go on ground level once they go overground.

no look at this pic, it clearly shows it above ground on a brick viaduct

http://images.nycsubway.org//i12000/img_12711.jpg

http://images.nycsubway.org//i12000/img_12514.jpg
another pic you can clearly see looking at the height of the roofs its elevated, piccadilly line

[mad_nick]

Berlin for example is another city which has plenty of elevated subway tracks.
In fact the elevated tracks for NY were modelled after the Berlin ones.
It's probably the other way around...
New York's first El opened in 1868, and the oldest elevated tracks still in use on the subway were built in the 1880's.

An article about New York's first El: http://www.nycsubway.org/irt/9thave/

[GNU]

^ Thats interesting.Wasn't aware of that. That would make the NY subway almost as old as the London one.
The first EL in Berlin was being built around 1880 as far as I know.

about the elevated subways:I was aware that these viaducts exist,simply forgot about them.Even though I thought we were talking about the traditional steel elevated subways,as they are seen in Paris or NY.

[CO2]

^ they go out of the tunnels,but they're not elevated.
And I personnally don't consider DLR as a real metro.But that is just my opinion
Yes, I consider only the heavyrails to be metro. A lot of the German cities call even LRTs and light metros as U-Bahn. U-Bahns in Berlin, Hamburg, Nuremberg and Munich are metro in this sense but the rest of them aren't. And DLR is a light metro/skytrain.

[DiggerD21]

For me elevated simply means above street level. If this achieved by steel or brick constructions or embankment doesn't matter.

[UptownGuy]

Can someone post a list of largest subways my track miles, not route miles? Ive tried searching for one but can only come up with lists sorting by ridership. THANKS!

[Bitxofo]

Can someone post a list of largest subways my track miles, not route miles? Ive tried searching for one but can only come up with lists sorting by ridership. THANKS!

NO idea, sorry!
All the list are by route lenght, not track miles...
:dunno:

[DonQui]

No one definition can satisfy everyone. For example, the Washington DC metro is 100 miles long, but a large number of those miles is significantly outside the city limits (I think maybe even the majority). By going so far, it almost starts to act like a commuter rail system.

[nick_taylor]

If viaducts are considered as a brick version of steel elevated railways, then London has had them since 1836 - the approaches into London Bridge Station are built on a massive brick viaducts. It also so happens to be the oldest railway station in London and is still operational to this day: 169 years later!

[asohn]

No one definition can satisfy everyone. For example, the Washington DC metro is 100 miles long, but a large number of those miles is significantly outside the city limits (I think maybe even the majority). By going so far, it almost starts to act like a commuter rail system.

The DC Metro is a combonation metro/commuter rail system, as opposed to the New York Subway, which runs strictly within the city limits, and seperatre commuter systems lead outside the city.

[UptownGuy]

Well, the route miles are a good indication as to the largest systems, correct? If so,London, and New York come out on top.

[Frog]

im not sure about longest metro but somewhere i heard it was Moscow? ?? ?

[Homer J. Simpson]

^I think that Moscow has the highest daily ridership not longest track.

[Bitxofo]

im not sure about longest metro but somewhere i heard it was Moscow? ?? ?

Did you read the list above??
:bash:

[mad_nick]

If viaducts are considered as a brick version of steel elevated railways, then London has had them since 1836 - the approaches into London Bridge Station are built on a massive brick viaducts. It also so happens to be the oldest railway station in London and is still operational to this day: 169 years later!
If approaches to a station can be considered to be an El, then by the same definition, Brooklyn had the worlds first "subway", a railway tunnel (LIRR) built under downtown Brooklyn in 1844. It closed in 1859.
http://www-tech.mit.edu/Subway/Tunnel/

[Frungy]

NO, sorry again!

The Metro List 2005 is done according to this:

What is a metro? A subway? An underground?

1) An urban electric mass rail transport system, i.e. it is primarily used to move within the city
2) Totally independent from other traffic, rail or street traffic
3) High frequency service (maximum interval approx. 10 minutes during normal daytime service)

Copyright by www.urbanrail.net
;)

So from 2), would Boston's Green Line not be considered a metro, since it has street-level crossings? Would one of the Tokyo commuter rail lines be considered a metro, since it satisfies all three points? Many of these lines have grade crossings, but they have a higher frequency of service than even the New York subway system.

[nick_taylor]

Well you can't really call it a subway: it didn't have any stations along its 2,750ft length! Just like there were railway tunnels built for the first railway tunnels in Britain.

And didn't Liverpool, UK have the world's first electric powered elevated railway?

[nick_taylor]

Frungy - Its not just Tokyo, South London which is poorly served by the tube network because of the ground conditions, has developed its own Metro network called ON going by the strict measures of what a metro should be.


http://img154.exs.cx/img154/5190/southlondonmetro1050cw.jpg

[mad_nick]

Well you can't really call it a subway: it didn't have any stations along its 2,750ft length! Just like there were railway tunnels built for the first railway tunnels in Britain.

And didn't Liverpool, UK have the world's first electric powered elevated railway?
I didn't say it should be considered a subway, just that, by the same definition as approaches to a station would be considered to be an El, that tunnel (the worlds first underground railway tunnel) would be considered a subway.
Yes, Liverpool had the first electric El, but it opened in 1893, 24 years after New York's first El.

[CO2]

So Would one of the Tokyo commuter rail lines be considered a metro, since it satisfies all three points? Many of these lines have grade crossings, but they have a higher frequency of service than even the New York subway system.
Anything which has grade crossings, they are failing to be metro. S-Bahns and alike are all failing to be metro. Light metros, skytrains and LRTs aren't metro either. Metro must fulfill all the criteria above and must be heavyrail. Japan has lots of underground commuter rail lines though.

[mad_nick]

^In that case, the New York Subway wasn't a real "metro" until 1983, because until then there was one grade crossing in Brooklyn on the BMT Canarsie Line (L):
http://images.nycsubway.org//i6000/img_6413.jpg

Same thing with the PATH system(subway to New Jersey), it used to have a grade crossing at Harrison, and the system is heavy rail, electric, frequent, and 55% of it's route miles are underground. But it was also not a "metro" until the grade crossing was removed:
http://images.nycsubway.org//i21000/img_21735.jpg

EDIT: I almost forgot, London's underground still isn't a "metro", it shares tracks with commuter rail at some points, thus violating the second rule, "2) Totally independent from other traffic, rail or street traffic."

[Falubaz]

you're quite right!!

[nick_taylor]

Which is a stupid list, because the London Underground was using the same tracks as regional and national trains in some areas long before any other networks were developed around the planet.

[elmismo]

SANTIAGO CHILE METRO
http://www.metrosantiago.cl/portal/html/Metro_linea4/Images/Metrored.jpg
LINE 4 (Under Construction)
http://img215.exs.cx/img215/9644/79oc.jpg
http://img167.exs.cx/img167/3320/as20027vf.jpg
LINE 5
http://img87.exs.cx/img87/5243/Metro17.jpg
LINE 1
http://img49.exs.cx/img49/4150/DCP_0009.jpg
LINE 2
http://img87.exs.cx/img87/952/Metro9.jpg

[DonQui]

So from 2), would Boston's Green Line not be considered a metro, since it has street-level crossings? Would one of the Tokyo commuter rail lines be considered a metro, since it satisfies all three points? Many of these lines have grade crossings, but they have a higher frequency of service than even the New York subway system.

There will never be a definition that satisfies everyone. I think that the one that Bitxofo uses is the most logical.

[willo]

MORE MADRID METRO

http://www.donquijote.org/tourist/maps/spain/images/metro-madrid.gif
http://www.expocasa.es/viviren/comumadrid/leganes/reportajes-12.jpg
http://dac.escet.urjc.es/visiting/imagenes/metro7000.jpg
http://estaticos.elmundo.es/suvivienda/2002/267/imagenessv/pag05b.jpg
http://www.ikusi.com/webikusi2003/zona2/images/fot4-2.jpg
http://www.zonalibre.org/blog/gothic-soul/foto_2003.jpg
http://www.pcdemano.com/~pcdemano/2004/4/wifimetro.jpg
http://photos1.flickr.com/345274_3d3531f85b_m.jpg
http://www.famma.org/noticias2004/imagenes2004/080410.jpg
http://blogs.bootsnall.com/jazz/archives/madrid%20subway.JPG
http://www.soluziona.es/htdocs/areas/ingenieria/interes/articulos/imagenes/premio_metro.jpg
http://www.ikusi.com/webikusi2003/zona2/images/fot4-3.jpg
http://www.stibi5.be/reseau2020_fichiers/image002.jpg
http://www.didirahl.de/r3_madrid_metro.jpg
http://www.madrid.org/staticFiles/site_105320624/cit_110682311/foto_1.jpg
http://www.madrid.org/metro/imagenes/estaciones/barajas_pueblo/barajas_9_9_99_54.jpg

http://www.madrid.org/metro/imagenes/estaciones/barajas_pueblo/barajas_9_9_99_51.jpg
http://www.madrid.org/metro/imagenes/inauguraciones/inaug_barajas_7_9_99_52.jpg
http://www.madrid.org/metro/imagenes/estaciones/campo_de_las_naciones/campo_naciones_23_6_98_4.jpg
http://www.madrid.org/metro/imagenes/estaciones/campo_de_las_naciones/campo_naciones_25_6_98_3.jpg
http://www.madrid.org/metro/imagenes/estaciones/campo_de_las_naciones/campo_naciones_23_6_98_2.jpg
http://www.madrid.org/metro/imagenes/estaciones/campo_de_las_naciones/campo_naciones_23_6_98_3.jpg
http://www.vialibre-ffe.com/hemeroteca/474/revista/img/f06-474.jpg
http://www.e-tourmagazine.com/news/noticia/metrosur.jpg
http://www.madrid.org/metrosur/galerias/nuevos_minis/inau_ministerios_21-5-02_02.jpg
http://www.florenciosanchez.com/madrid/imagenes_mad/nuevos_ministerios1.jpg
http://www.uitp.com/Events/madrid/mediaroom/photos/Madrid2003/STLmadridNUEVOSministerios.jpg

[micro]

I would like pics of ORDINARY, COMMON, GRAND, AND SPECTACULAR subway stations in each of these world cities: London, Paris, Madrid, Moscow, Tokyo, Hong Kong. Perhaps if there are any cities you deem as TRULY world cities, post pics of them too. THANKS!

For the grand and spectacular ones you should take a look here:

http://mic-ro.com/metro/metroart.html

For the ordinary ones I don't know where to look...

[brugghen]

Metrostation Cite in Paris:

http://images.fotopic.net/y7j9gh.jpg


Metro Line 1 approaching La Defense

http://images.fotopic.net/y26675.jpg


Regards,

Wouter van der Brugghen (http://gallery18937.fotopic.net/)

[UptownGuy]

Thanks for the Paris pics! Is it only above ground?

[brugghen]

Paris below streetlevel

http://images.fotopic.net/y26672.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/y2667d.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/y2667c.jpg

regards Wouter (http://members.lycos.nl/brugghen/Publictranspor/Homepagex.html)

[Bitxofo]

Barcelona line 4 and line 11:
:)
http://tinypic.com/28knzs
:)
http://tinypic.com/28ko6p
:)
http://tinypic.com/28kobd
:)
http://tinypic.com/28kody
:)
http://tinypic.com/28koib
:)
http://tinypic.com/28kokl
:)
Sorry for the quality of the photos, they are made with a mobile phone!
Next time I will post pics made with my new digital cam.
;)

[edubejar]

Thanks for the Paris pics! Is it only above ground?

Nope, most of Paris' metro is underground, except for two of the fourteen lines: Ligne 2 and Ligne 6...but even these two lines are partly underground. The pic you saw above of Ligne 1 surfaces out for a kilometer or so just before plunging back underground to serve the first station of La Défense...it doesn't have a single above-ground station the way Ligne 2 and 6 do.

Even the RER (Regional Express Network) has a signficant number of its stations and lines underground while in the city-proper.

[spsmiler]

Barcelona line 4 and line 11:
:)
http://tinypic.com/28kokl
:)
Sorry for the quality of the photos, they are made with a mobile phone!
Next time I will post pics made with my new digital cam.
;)

Interesting pics, I note how the train is powered by a rail and not wires.

The quality is very good for a mobile phone. Maybe soon we wont need cameras - the phone will be used for that too!

Simon

[Bitxofo]

Interesting pics, I note how the train is powered by a rail and not wires.

The quality is very good for a mobile phone. Maybe soon we wont need cameras - the phone will be used for that too!

Simon

Yes, 2 years ago they replaced all 3rd rails and normal overhead wire for this new "rigid overhead rail with wire inside". They said it is cheaper to maintain and easier to replace when there is a breakdown.
I promise I will take better photos with my new digital cam!
;)
Thanks!!
:)

[Javi]

Madrid´s subway is very big and modern but a little expensive (5.80 euros for a 10 travels ticket)

[timothy_tw]

threre is NOWAY that singapore system is longer then Hong Kong's one... Singapore's system is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay shorter then Hong Kong's one

[ignoramus]

..

[Bitxofo]

As I said before:

Barcelona now:

107 km. 9 lines of full metro + 19 km. 5 lines of light metro
:)

[ssiguy2]

Athens are fantastic!!!! Great pics.
Does anyone have the Montreal Metro?.........incredible, the stations are like pieces of art.

[ssiguy2]

Vancouver has the SkyTrain.........it is often referred to as ALRT {advanced LRT} but for sake of comparisons it is considered a full Metro. Except for 4 underground stations downtown the complete system is elevated and at no point does it cross a road or even go at separated grade.
The system is the longest complete driverless sytem in the world, {49km with another 18km by 2009} , not bad considering that by 2009 Metro Vancouver will only have 2.3 million.
The cars are small.....same as JFK Rail trains but the service is excellent. The trains run every 2 to 3 minutes during the day and every 90 seconds during rush hour, the highest frequency of any rapid transit system in North America.

[Bitxofo]

Athens are fantastic!!!! Great pics.
Does anyone have the Montreal Metro?.........incredible, the stations are like pieces of art.

www.metrodemontreal.com
;)

[Bitxofo]

New link for the list of metros of the world (ONLY full metros, NO light metros):

http://mic-ro.com/metro/metrolistlen.html

Copyright by Jordi Serradell, SPAiN
;)
Hope you like it!
:)
Greetings from Barcelona

[Bitxofo]

Edited

[stlouiscityboy]

Here in St. Louis we have a wnderful Metro. Right now it runs about 45 miles on one line but at the end of this year they are opening up the Green Line which will head west into the Clayton area and down into the southwest inner suburbs. And will add around 10 new miles to the Metro. Also as soon as the Green Line is finished they will start on two new lines that will loop around the downtown area and go further out into the suburbs. And should put are Metro closer to 90 or a 100 miles. I will try and get some pics on here for everyone. Also most of are system is under ground or below grade. They also used when building the Metro alot of the Old freight rail tunnels bulit in the 1800s for the main line.

[stlouiscityboy]

metrostl.org or crosscounty.org are great sites to look at maps and plans or pics.

[sturman]

some pics of Moscow Metro

One of 170 Moskow Metro stations (Mayakovskaya Station, built in 1938):

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/01.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/25.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/02.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/20.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/03.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/04.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/22.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/26.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/28.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/06.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/11.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/14.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/mayak/16.jpg


Somewhere between stations:

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/metroessent/01.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/metroessent/02.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/metroessent/03.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/metroessent/13.jpg

http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/dream/metroessent/11.jpg

[superchan7]

Hong Kong, all pics taken by me:
MTR - probably HK's definitive metro system. Mostly underground. Trains run very frequently.
http://ieng9.ucsd.edu/~ccheuk/sscpix/5755.jpg

KCR - Some underground sections, mostly at grade. Trains run very frequently, although it might not really be a true "subway."
http://ieng9.ucsd.edu/~ccheuk/sscpix/5487.jpg
http://ieng9.ucsd.edu/~ccheuk/sscpix/5679.jpg

MTR trains, pics not taken by me:
http://ieng9.ucsd.edu/~ccheuk/sscpix/mtr108.jpg
http://ieng9.ucsd.edu/~ccheuk/sscpix/mtr153.jpg
Props to k2, this type of train is very hard to capture outside the stations (they're no good inside stations as they're separated by screen doors):
http://ieng9.ucsd.edu/~ccheuk/sscpix/tcl22.jpg

KCR trains, not taken by me:
http://ieng9.ucsd.edu/~ccheuk/sscpix/kcr32.jpg

[Roch5220]

www.metrodemontreal.com
;)

Montreal, I think the best metro in the world. I only wish it ran on rails. NYC, and the rest of the great metros are good, but the frequency isn't the greatest. With no express trains, you know you won't have to wait too long for a train, which is a big knock on the larger systems. Waiting for an F train, in NYC, longest wait time for me has been 50 mins (no delays).

[Roch5220]

New link for the list of metros of the world (ONLY full metros, NO light metros):

http://mic-ro.com/metro/metrolistlen.html

Copyright by Jordi Serradell, SPAiN
;)
Hope you like it!
:)
Greetings from Barcelona


Great link.
Can't believe SF's BART has avg 3.6 kms between each station. Its bordering on commutter distances.

BTW - It does include light rail. The site uses a definition from another website which is very loose. It says it focuses more on underground networks which is why Buffalo is included, but then it includes other more above ground networks, that are basically metros.

[centralized pandemonium]

Delhi has quite a big network planned too. A part of it is done. The first phase consisting of 3 lines, 70km will be done by June 2005.

http://delhimetrorail.com/commuters/images/routemap_big.jpg

This is the masterplan for 2021.

http://www.urbanrail.net/as/delh/delhi-planned.jpg

Line 1 and 3 are elevated(line 3 is partly underground). Line 2 is completely underground.

http://www.irfca.org/photos/albums/DelhiMetro/Delhi_Metro.jpg

http://img23.echo.cx/img23/3262/delhimetro8yi.jpg

http://img91.echo.cx/img91/2917/delhimetrostation70tp.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/2189/delhimetro0zw.jpg

http://tinypic.com/xubn5

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20041220/id2.jpg

Art on the Delhi metro. They depict the daily life in the city

http://www.irfca.org/photos/albums/DelhiMetroByAshish/DSCN0321.jpg

http://www.irfca.org/photos/albums/DelhiMetroByAshish/DSCN0329.jpg

http://img91.echo.cx/img91/9323/delhimetrostation59ki.jpg

http://www.grijalvo.com/Pau_Sarradell/Delhi_Metro_2004_1_small.jpg

These Delhi metro trains look a bit like the Hong Kong metro trains.

[centralized pandemonium]

Calcutta has a decent subway service too.

http://urbanrail.net/as/calc/calcutta-map.gif

http://urbanrail.net/as/calc/calcutta-tollygunge1.jpg

http://www.greatmirror.com/images/big/010415.jpg

http://www.greatmirror.com/images/medium/010413.jpg

http://primco.org/photo/images/08_india/calcutta_underground.3.jpg

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl2026/images/20040102004911401.jpg

http://winnie.chem-eng.northwestern.edu/~debarshi/images/kolkata/calcuttametro.jpg

[superchan7]

The Delhi trains are made by the same company (Rotem from Korea) as one type of MTR train in Hong Kong.

[mad_nick]

Montreal, I think the best metro in the world. I only wish it ran on rails. NYC, and the rest of the great metros are good, but the frequency isn't the greatest. With no express trains, you know you won't have to wait too long for a train, which is a big knock on the larger systems. Waiting for an F train, in NYC, longest wait time for me has been 50 mins (no delays).
Um, 50 minutes would be a serious delay, the lowest scheduled frequency of the F line is 20 minutes, between midnight and 5 am. Though it's not uncommon to see long delays at night because of construction and maintenence work that can only be done at night.

[mariusz_ny]

NYC, and the rest of the great metros are good, but the frequency isn't the greatest.During rush hours the frequency is not so bad but not impressed the other times indeed.
Waiting for an F train, in NYC, longest wait time for me has been 50 mins (no delays).mad_nick has answered allready.

[mariusz_ny]

@Sturman
Great technique.

[Bitxofo]

Montreal, I think the best metro in the world. I only wish it ran on rails. NYC, and the rest of the great metros are good, but the frequency isn't the greatest. With no express trains, you know you won't have to wait too long for a train, which is a big knock on the larger systems. Waiting for an F train, in NYC, longest wait time for me has been 50 mins (no delays).

Montreal the best??
How many metro systems have you visited in the world??
:?

[Roch5220]

Um, 50 minutes would be a serious delay, the lowest scheduled frequency of the F line is 20 minutes, between midnight and 5 am. Though it's not uncommon to see long delays at night because of construction and maintenence work that can only be done at night.

Right. On the weekends when I have to travel from manhattan, I dread taking the F train as '20 minutes' is quite laughable most of the time.

[Roch5220]

Montreal the best??
How many metro systems have you visited in the world??
:?

Quite a few.
In terms of overall, Montreal for me is still the best. It doens't nearly have an extensive network as larger cities, however, when you know that there is no subway going to where you want to get, then you take alternative transit. On top of that, Downtown has very good coverage. The biggest thing I hate with large networks is the lack of frequency of certian trains/lines, even though the 'posted' times stated. True, asian systems like Tokyo have good service, but travelling at peak times, I'm not a fan of being crammed in like sardines, which seems to be more rampant on asian lines vs. N.A. lines. Montreal isn't nearly as packed in during peak times as say Tokyo. And the poor state of repair on the networks in NYC and London is also a factor. The only major system I havn't been on is Moscow, which I probably won't ever.

[Roch5220]

During rush hours the frequency is not so bad but not impressed the other times indeed.
mad_nick has answered allready.

The NYC system I would rank as one of the worst networks. Going back to the F train line, my avg. wait time for this line would be 20-30 mins. On top of that, they really need the 2nd ave line. I take the 6 train in the mornings (I walk home at night), and if I leave between 8:15-9, I won't catch a train due to over capacity. In addition, on the weekends, the frequency of 6 is crap, the MTA loves packed trains.

In addition, the weekends are crap. Countless times my trips have taken longer due to service changes - granted, I should check the MTA website each morning - but thats pretty crappy in terms of reliability to have to do this. Too many times I've had to back track because of the trains skipping stations on the weekend. LIke they couldn't do this at night? The frequencies most lines is so bad, it basically promotes people to taxi it everywhere.

[Bitxofo]

Quite a few.
In terms of overall, Montreal for me is still the best. It doens't nearly have an extensive network as larger cities, however, when you know that there is no subway going to where you want to get, then you take alternative transit. On top of that, Downtown has very good coverage. The biggest thing I hate with large networks is the lack of frequency of certian trains/lines, even though the 'posted' times stated. True, asian systems like Tokyo have good service, but travelling at peak times, I'm not a fan of being crammed in like sardines, which seems to be more rampant on asian lines vs. N.A. lines. Montreal isn't nearly as packed in during peak times as say Tokyo. And the poor state of repair on the networks in NYC and London is also a factor. The only major system I havn't been on is Moscow, which I probably won't ever.

How many and which ones, please??
;)

[Roch5220]

Really. I'm not going to list everyone CAUSE this is the internet and nothing is provable. I have roots/family in asia (where I am from), N.A. (where I grew up and currently reside), as well as family in england. My wife is in love with europe so we have to compromise.

[Roch5220]

BTW - why do you think Montreal isn't the best. I said before 'I think' and not 'it is the best', cause everyone has different criteria/preferences.

[InitialD18]

i have ridden montreal ... its certainly isn't as good as the asian ones ... even on peak hours ... i have ridden most systems in asia and na ... just an opinion though

[Imperial]

Warsaw Subway:

Several Warsaw's Subway stations:

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Wilanowska/IMGP2200.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Wilanowska/PC290050.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Ratusz/IMGP2337.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Dworzec%20Gdanski/IMGP2342.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Dworzec%20Gdanski/IMGP2349.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Dworzec%20Gdanski/PC300147.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Plac%20Wilsona/DSC03560_resize.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Plac%20Wilsona/DSC03554_resize.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Plac%20Wilsona/IMGP2976.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Plac%20Wilsona/DSC03562_resize.JPG

[Roch5220]

^Decent.

[superchan7]

I think Warsaw's looks nice. Spacious/airy, well-lit and interesting station architecture. I would prefer newer trains, though.

[tommygunn]

Liverpool England

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid169/pb3e03418ae7638e6f8b04ed0e90c32d6/f40c2f63.jpg[/IMG] http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid169/pc51f174f360084d609b6d960c7cb880e/f40c2f66.jpg[/IMG] http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid169/p162ef993b8611bf8708cd3613cc3d271/f40c2f65.jpg[/IMG] http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid169/p8e844683e23a5d8f988df9829fd698e0/f40c2f64.jpg[/IMG] http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid169/p9e537987a65035d76ecf636561bb273c/f40c2c6f.jpg[/IMG]

[Petr]

I think Warsaw's looks nice. Spacious/airy, well-lit and interesting station architecture. I would prefer newer trains, though.
These for example? ;)
http://metro.civ.pl/foto/Stacja%20Techniczno%20Postojowa/IM001592.JPG
http://metro.civ.pl/foto/Stacja%20Techniczno%20Postojowa/IMGP2248.JPG
http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Plac%20Wilsona/DSC03556_resize.JPG
http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Plac%20Wilsona/DSC03571_resize.JPG

[superchan7]

There we go. ;P

[mad_nick]

Right. On the weekends when I have to travel from manhattan, I dread taking the F train as '20 minutes' is quite laughable most of the time.
Unless you're taking the train between midnight and 5 am, the frequency of the F train is not 20 minutes on the weekends. It's generally between 8 and 10 minutes on saturdays and sundays.
http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/tfcur.pdf

[mariusz_ny]

The NYC system I would rank as one of the worst networks. Going back to the F train line, my avg. wait time for this line would be 20-30 mins. F line and F line again :bash:
I take the 6 train in the mornings (I walk home at night), and if I leave between 8:15-9, I won't catch a train due to over capacity. That's true. But not only that. Some L line riders can hear this: "The train is extremely loaded. The next train is just right behind ours" and people stays on the platform - they have no choice. But in NYC there is not and never will be a special people to push riders inside the train, just like in Japan.
On top of that, they really need the 2nd ave line. The 2 Ave Subway... :) Stop dreaming. (I'm talking to myself)
In addition, the weekends are crap. Countless times my trips have taken longer due to service changes - granted, I should check the MTA website each morning - but thats pretty crappy in terms of reliability to have to do this. Too many times I've had to back track because of the trains skipping stations on the weekend. LIke they couldn't do this at night? The frequencies most lines is so bad, it basically promotes people to taxi it everywhere.True again, but...When you think about it: people used to ride to work and back from work when the frequency is every 4-5 minutes. When they want to ride on weekends they need to wait 10 minutes for example and then it seems to them like they have to wait an eternity.
As for skipping the stations: If you travel more often then you realize there are some jobs on certain lines and stations this week and the next week and the next one. It is not a lottery. You can easily figured out which line or station could be "affected".

[Roch5220]

^Really. Most other systems like MTL or TOR have 4-5min posted, an 'actual' non peak times. Some subway lines are like commutter trains. I find that subways in NYC are crowded most everytime, not because of it being busy, but due to the long lag times inbetween trains.

Mad nick - stop referring to posted times. In NYC, this means nothing.

The subway crisis isn't coming, its already started. Thankfully, I can walk to work if I really need to.

[Bitxofo]

Mistake...
SORRY!!
:(

[Housing Critic3]

tokyo
ticket gate & vending machine

http://railpics.fc2web.com/sta001.jpg

http://railpics.fc2web.com/sta002.jpg


ginza line ( the oldest line in tokyo since 1927 )

http://railpics.fc2web.com/0101.jpg

marunouchi line
http://railpics.fc2web.com/0201.jpg

hibiya line
http://railpics.fc2web.com/0301.jpg

tozai line
http://railpics.fc2web.com/0501.jpg

chiyoda line
http://railpics.fc2web.com/0601.jpg

yurakucho line
http://railpics.fc2web.com/0701.jpg

hanzomon line
http://railpics.fc2web.com/0801.jpg

platform on the hanzomon line
http://railpics.fc2web.com/sta004.jpg

nanboku line
http://railpics.fc2web.com/9000.jpg

platform on the nanboku line
http://railpics.fc2web.com/sta003.jpg

[Bitxofo]

Barcelona Metro line 9:

Double level tunnel, one level for each sense, 1st time in Metro construction:
:eek:
http://tinypic.com/5xpnh0
:eek:
Under construction now, diametre of the tunnel is 12m.!!
:eek2:

[Bitxofo]

UP!!
:)

[Jaye101]

Montreal the best??
How many metro systems have you visited in the world??
:?

It's not even the best in Canada.

Run away! before they make us look at pictures of those rubber wheels!!

[AmiDelf]

Here in Oslo the Subway runs from 05.45 to 00.30 everyday. Now as it´s summertime, all of the lines runs 15mins until 18.30 in the evening, then its 30min ...

The summertime is until middle of August, when all lines will have 15min schedule until 22.00, then 30min until 00.30


Whats runningtimes in your city? Interesting,...

[tr]

Taipei Railway Projects

2005 - Shinkansen T700, Nippon Sharyo
Distance: 345km, (Taipei-Kaohsiung)
Service: 10 min.
http://www.n-sharyo.co.jp/business/tetsudo/images/zthsrctaiwan.jpg

2007-2008, TRA Regional MRT, Nippon Sharyo/TRSC
Distance: 60km (Taoyuan-Taipei-Keelung)
Service: 10 min.
http://www.n-sharyo.co.jp/topics/tra-emu.jpg

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Taipei MRT
Existing Trains:

Siemens
http://www.citycat.hdud.idv.tw/tpmrt/mrt13.jpg

Kawasaki
http://www.citycat.hdud.idv.tw/tpmrt/mrt14.jpg

MATRA
http://www.citycat.hdud.idv.tw/tpmrt/mrt16.jpg

Bombardier People Mover, 2008
http://www.bombardier.com/neihu/media/ph_full_overview.jpg

Random Station Pics (Google):

http://www.futsu.com.tw/photo_image/b_1992_1_pulic_photo_1.GIF

http://www.futsu.com.tw/photo_image/b_1992_1_pulic_photo_2.GIF

http://www.futsu.com.tw/photo_image/b_1993_pulic_photo_1.GIF

http://www.futsu.com.tw/photo_image/b_1992_pulic_photo_1.GIF

http://www.urbanrail.net/as/taip/taipei-map.gif

Expansion:

Banciao Line, 2006
12.7 km
9 stations

Neihu Line, 2008
14.8 km
12 stations

Nangang Extension, 2008
2.5 km
2 stations

Luzhou Line, 2009
6.4 km
5 stations

Xinzhuang Line, 2010
19.7 km
16 stations

Xinyi Line, 2011
6.4 km
5 stations

Songshan Line, 2012
8.5 km
8 stations

Taipei County Circular Line, 2011 (construction 2006)
15.8 km
14 stations

Xinyi LRT Line, 2011 (proposed)
*Inner Loop
1.9 km
5 stations.

*Xinyi Circular Line
4.1 km
8 stations.

*Xinyi/Songshan Line
2.6 km
6 stations.

Taipei /CKS Airport/ Taoyuan Line, 2011 (construction 2006)
51.5 km
20 stations

MRT Expansion: 12 lines - 147 km of track - 112 stations
Existing Network: 70 km
Taipei MRT 2011: 217 km
TRA MRT line: 60 km

Total: 277 km

[Giorgio]

ATTIKO METRO
Athens Metro
http://www.cretetravel.com/images/Athens/Athens_metro.jpg

List of the Stations:

List of stations in Line 2 (the red line)

Aghios Antonios - The current north end of the line.
Sepolia
Attiki near the train station
Larisa, near the train station
Metaxourgio NE of Omonia Square
Omonia - featuring Omonia Square, it connects also with the ISAP Metro Line 1.
Panepistimio - featuring the University of Athens
Syntagma - next to the Constitution Square, it also connects the Blue line`.
Akropoli (Acropolis) - featuring the ruins of the Acropolis, with the original statutes posted at the station, along with the Omonoia.
Syngrou-Fix near Andreas Syngrou Avenue
Neos Kosmos in Neos Kosmos
Aghios Ioannis next to Vouliagmenis Avenue
Daphni in the heart of Daphni
Aghios Dimitrios/Alexandros Panagoulis - near Aghios Dimitrios, Helioupoli and Vouliagmenis Avenue

List of stations in Line 3 (the blue line)
Eleftherios Venizelos Airport
Doukissis Plakentias
Halandri
Ethniki Amyna
Katehaki - next to Katehaki Avenue.
Panormou
Ambelokipi - near Ambelokipi.
Megaro Moussikis
Evangelismos
Syntagma -- next to Syntagma Square, also connects to the Red line.
Monastiraki -- also connecting to Line 1.

Future Stations:

Attiko Metro Line 2 (Red Line)

Line: Anthoupoli - Elliniko

Anthoupoli (New)
Peristeri (New)
Aghios Antonios
Sepolia
Attiki
Larissa Station
Metaxourghio
Omonoia
Panepistimio
Syntagma
Akropoli
Sygrou-Fix
Neos Kosmos
Aghios Ioannis
Daphni
Aghios Dimitrios/Alexandros Panagoulis
Ilioupoli (New)
Alimos (New)
Argyroupoli (New)
Elliniko, near the old Hellinikon International Airport - East Terminal (New)

Line: Panepistimio - Alsos Veikou (New Line)

Panepistimio
Exarchia (New)
Alexandras (New)
Dikastiria (New)
Kypseli (New)
Galatsi (New)
Alsos Veikou (New)

Attiko Metro Line 3 (Blue Line)

Line: Zea - Doukissis Plakentias - Airport

Zea (New)
Dimotiko Theatro (New)
Piraeus
Tampouria (New)
Nikaia (New)
Korydallos (New)
Aghia Varvara (New)
Haidari (New)
Egaleo (New)
Eleonas (New)
Votanikos (New)
Monastiraki
Syntagma
Evangelismos
Megaro Moussikis
Ambelokipi
Panormou
Katehaki
Ethniki Amyna
Holargos (New)
Nomismatokopio (New)
Aghia Paraskevi (New)
Halandri
Doukissis Plakentias
Airport

Line: Panormou - Maroussi (New Line)

Panormou
Pharos (New)
Filothei (New)
Sidera (New)
OAKA (New)
Paradeisos (New)
Maroussi

Pictures of Several stations

http://assets.in.gr/dGenesis/assets/Content200/Photo/11475_b.jpg

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295815/0/Halandri+Station+4-+External.jpg

http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication/gallery/images/tunnel/4.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/ath/syntagma1.jpg

http://img125.echo.cx/img125/4314/l2syntagma33pb.jpg

http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/2658/dsc_4542.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b1/Syntagma2.jpg

http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication/gallery/images/stations/9/5.jpg

http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/1196/crw_1910.jpg

http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication/gallery/topslide.htm

http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication/gallery/images/extensions/ilioupoli/panagoulis_020604.jpg

Subway Entrance
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295815/0/Halandri+Station+4-+External.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295813/0/Halandri+Station+2-+External+-+West.jpg

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295817/0/Halandri+Station+6-Interior+West.jpg

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295823/0/Halandri+Station+8-Interior+West-Elevator.jpg

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/295824/0/Halandri+Station+9-Main+Concourse.jpg


The Trains:
http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication//gallery/images/train/train.jpg

Interior:
http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication//gallery/images/train/disabledpersons.jpg
http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication//gallery/images/train/newtrain4.jpg

Katehaki station seen here infront of Santiago Calatravas Designed Bridge
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/30498/361577/0/Calatrava+Katehaki+8+-+The+Mast.jpg

The Athens Metro preety much doubles as a museum. During construction, thousands of ancient artifacts were found whilst digging the tunnels. They are now on display in the stations:

http://www.ametro.gr/main/communication/gallery/topslide.htm

THANKS TO GM FOR MANY OF THE PICS

[cellete]

Fantastic zread!!

[Bitxofo]

Here in Oslo the Subway runs from 05.45 to 00.30 everyday. Now as it´s summertime, all of the lines runs 15mins until 18.30 in the evening, then its 30min ...

The summertime is until middle of August, when all lines will have 15min schedule until 22.00, then 30min until 00.30


Whats runningtimes in your city? Interesting,...

Frequencies higher than 10 min. cannot be considered as a metro system...
:nono:
Actually I wento to Oslo from June 23rd to June 27th and I realized that only a small part of the 100 km. of the network qualify as "full metro system", the rest are like Cercanías, RER or S bahn!
;)

[Giorgio]

why dont we vote for best metro?

[Bitxofo]

why dont we vote for best metro?

We did it hundreds of times...
Tokyo for me!!
:wink2:

[AmiDelf]

Well, Oslo subway system is subway all the way. It´s not
like RER at all. Just look at this map here!

http://www.sporveien.no/upload/Dokumentvedlegg/Nettkart/felles_skinneg_031004.jpg

Red - Subway/Metro/U-Bahn
Blue - Tram
Black - local trains. They are alike RER


Regards,
Michal

[MSPtoMKE]

Well, it may not be exactly like an RER or S-Bahn, but it certainly has many of the characteristics. Bundled lines converging in the City Center, lower frequency, etc. Are the T-bane lines completely seperate from other rail lines, or do they share right of way in some places?

[AmiDelf]

The Subway runs on its own tracks. It got yellow powerlines beside it´s tracks in the city. On Line 1 and Line 4 they use either 1300 or T2000 wagons, which can change.

On the Jar station, the T-bane and tram meets. Reason for using overhead power here, is because of the curves and so on. The yellow power line would be demolished in some parts of Line 1 and Line 4.

Here is a picture, showing the end station for tram. The subway line 4 continues outside of Oslo:
http://pix.*******/22/22152-jar_t+t.jpg

Just look at the curved picture here:
http://pix.*******/18/18054-RO-T6-1319-1330-01s.jpg

Here, showing different stations:
http://pix.*******/18/18055-RO-T8-1317-01s.jpg
http://pix.*******/18/18056-RO-T7-1339-01s.jpg

Streetleve crossing is allowed here, because of the power cables in the air:
http://pix.*******/18/18057-RO-T7-1336-01s.jpg
http://pix.*******/18/18062-RO-T5-1318-02s.jpg


Also, the reason for Oslo to have 15min schedule, is that it only lives about 500 000 people here. In whole area.. if you look on the map, a bit more. In the summertime its so silent here ;p Everyone goes on hollidays or just dont go to the city. The TV even have summertime. Means that every Norwegian tv channel starts arround 14.00cet etc... and the news programmes starts like 18.00cet in the evening ;)

Here is subway meeting train at Storo:
http://pix.*******/22/22608-Storo_foerste_mai.jpg

Here you see the train tracks on the right, while subway tracks on the left:
http://pix.*******/21/21074-P1010080.jpg
http://pix.*******/9/i9961-EL14.2180.jpg

Here is a local train going on the single track, from Storo area:
http://pix.*******/25/25527-RO-20050718-042s.jpg


All subways, trams and trains uses same track width. :)

:cheers:
Michal

[Bitxofo]

I went to Oslo from June 23rd to June 27th and I took the T-bana extensively, I rode all lines and I realized that not the whole network can be considered like metro, 50% in my opinion, not more. A metro must be:
-Urban.
-High frequency.
-Mass transport.
Oslo metro qualifies for all criteria, but not all lines or branches.
;)
By the way, there are cities with less than 500000 inhabitants and their metros run every 10 min. or less!
:wink2:

[Klugermann]

SANTIAGO DE CHILE

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/8765/metro6nv.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/9083/metro28zb.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/8684/metro39sa.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/9700/metro40lz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/4991/metro59rm.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/228/metro61du.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/4249/me2al.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[AmiDelf]

Well... Oslo is listed on urbanrail.com as a subway city. Its not considered as light rail or anything...

Have you also noticed that it takes very long time to travel from the west side to the east side of Oslo?

There lives 500 000 people, but its widespread. Center is not big at all. Here where I live,.. near Line 4. There arent much activity, so a 15min schedule is fully ennough.

In the center, the frequency is much better offcourse, since all lines goes thru it. But on each sides, it´s not that populated.

:cheers:
Michal

[AmiDelf]

Even the tram lines got 15min schedule. Many bussroutes also have 30min in weekends and so on. You have to live here, to understand it :)

[londonindyboy]

here are pics of delhi metro or subway

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9606/metro1qa.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=metro1qa.jpg)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3447/metro27px.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=metro27px.jpg)[/QUOTE]

MORE PICTURES OF DELHI METRO

Kashmere gate roof

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/9207/1ce76uu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Kashmere gate escillator

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/1778/75000rl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

DU platform station2

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/1847/2da13wb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

CCTV's employed at Kashmere Gate station

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/8163/76706wa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Escillator

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/3153/ecc64mg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

another escillator

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/1558/26867xh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Another view

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/2972/ecc67vj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

AN airtel stall and McDONALDS

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/7561/3a2b5pn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4386/65c35fn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7940/67528bf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7070/02a296jb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Patel Chowk station :)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6623/1dde8fx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8863/delhimetrostation86tm0nk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7264/37d54od.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4959/17669rg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

NDLS metro station

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8729/a4f55zt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

underground station

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1571/ddfc8zk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3921/532360590tp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Rajiv Chowk platform

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7707/4f1f7tg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[sbarn]

I find that subways in NYC are crowded most everytime, not because of it being busy, but due to the long lag times inbetween trains.

Really?? I ride the 2/3 to/from work between 96th st and times square and I'd say there literally is a train every minute... and every one is packed. During rush hour NYC service is very frequent. I agree that off-peak service is laughable. Yesterday I waited for more than 30 minutes for the 1 train!! Ugh!! Stupid construction... :bash:

Although there could be serious improvements... I certainly wouldn't call the NYC subway one of the worst in the world. How many cities have 24 service??

[londonindyboy]

great

[Bitxofo]

UP!!
;)

[FOLK]

In Madrid now under construction 96km.(+226.90km)

[FOLK]

I prefer Madrid and Tokyo.

[Bitxofo]

In Madrid now under construction 96km.(+226.90km)
Only 43 km under construction are full metro, the rest are tramways.
;)
Nowadays, Madrid metro system is 226.78 km. long.
In 2007: 270 km. of full metro.
:)

[Bitxofo]

Barcelona metro today: 106.40 km.
Barcelona metro 2009: 200 km. of full metro or 270 km. including regional metro and light metro.
:wink2:

[edubejar]

I didn't know Athens only currently has 3 lines. Athens metro seems small for its size, and a bit too spread-out for it's density. I wonder if the topography and ancient ruins present a challenge to subway construction there.

[CrazyCanuck]

Only three lines? I thought Athens subway was brand new so if that is the case then it seems acceptable.

[D_block]

none of these subways are entirely underground like montreal's subway

heres some

http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/metro/a-mapmet.htm

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/placesthenri/vaults2.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/acadie/platform.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/acadie/mural3.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/acadie/bench.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/acadie/mezzanine-below.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/acadie/mezzanine-above.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/acadie/eastkiosk.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/angrignon/archmain.html

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/angrignon/archmain.html

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/georgesvanier/birdseye.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/georgesvanier/tree.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/lasalle/platform-mezzanine.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/lasalle/walls3.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/lasalle/walls4.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/lasalle/kiosk.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/lionelgroulx/int-panorama.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/monk/sculptures-back.jpg


http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/monk/bridge.jpg


http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/placesthenri/vaults3.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/placesthenri/cartier.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/placesthenri/colours.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/champdemars/ferron-panorama.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/decastelnau/volume1.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/delasavane/platform.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/delasavane/mezzanine2.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/ducollege/floor.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/ducollege/favretti-south.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/ducollege/mezzanine.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/edouardmontpetit/platform.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/fabre/platform.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/jolicoeur/platform.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/namur/systeme2.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/outremont/lightshaft.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/outremont/mezzanine.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/prefontaine/mezzanine2.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/stmichel/transept1.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/stmichel/transept2.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/vendome/stainedglass.jpg
http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/vendome/volume.jpg

[D_block]

Here's some more from montreal,canada









http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/berri/greenvolume.jpg


http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/berri/skylight.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/cadillac/stairs.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/cotedesneiges/platform.jpg


http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/cotestecatherine/frieze.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/cremazie/volume.jpg
http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/henribourassa/reveil.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/honorebeaugrand/overlook.jpg



http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/honorebeaugrand/mousseau1.jpg


http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/honorebeaugrand/platform.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/lucienlallier/int-panorama.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/montroyal/archmain.html

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/pieix/mezzanine.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/pieix/control.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/pieix/citius1.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/plamondon/northwall.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/rosemont/bridge.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/sherbrooke/platform2.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/snowdon/stmichel.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/snowdon/hbourassa.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/snowdon/cvertu-undamaged.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/verdun/mezzanine-overview.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/verdun/platform-overview.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/verdun/bridge.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/green/verdun/skylight.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/villamaria/overlook.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/villamaria/platform.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/orange/villamaria/benches.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/blue/diberville/pelican.jpg

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/yellow/jeandrapeau/platform.jpg

[Alargule]

Montreal's metro is very impressive when it comes down to its architectural design! It's a bit 60's/70's, but all that concrete forms, large halls and metal accents really give it a futuristic look, even today. Must have been quite an expensive project, if you ask me.

[Mojito]

I like the fact that they have chosen the Paris rubber-tire system...

It is not my favourite (I am a steel-wheel-on-steel-tracks fan...a metro must have the typical bumping, rumbling and scratching sounds) but I guess in Montreal it is linked up with their 'frenchness', and part of their identity.

Also the trains are completely different from other north-american subway trains.

[Bitxofo]

Bump! UP!!
:wink2:

[ger]

none of these subways are entirely underground like montreal's subway

The Buenos Aires subway (also called "Subte") are entirely underground like montreal's subway. The total length of Buenos Aires subway is 43 km(its small compared to 12 million citizen in metropolitan area) The oldest station have got murals.

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/buenos-aires-map.gif

The subway has got 5 lines.

Line A was built in 1913 (The 11th subway system in the world) - 7 km, 14 stations. 190.000 passengers per day

1/12/1913 - Plaza de Mayo - Plaza Miserere
1/4/1914 - Plaza Miserere - Río de Janeiro
1/7/1914 - Río de Janeiro - Primera Junta

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/a-peru1.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/a-interior1.jpg

http://subtes.servehttp.com/scc/(1).jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/estaciones/miserere-GAL626.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/coches/gal276b.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/historia/foto3-28.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/historia/foto3-2.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/historia/GAL200.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/historia/GAL201.jpg

and is under construction from Primera Junta: 3.5km with 4 stations: Puan, Carabobo (2007), Flores, Nazca (2008).

line B was opened in 1930. 10.9 km, 15 stations. 345.000 passengers per day

17/10/1930 - Federico Lacroze - Callao
22/7/1931 - Callao - Pellegrini
12/1931 - Pellegrini - L.N.Alem
9/8/2003 - Federico Lacroze - Los Incas

and is under construction from Los Incas to Echeverría and Villa Urquiza (2007)

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/historia/varias25.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/historia/gal588.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/b-tronador1.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/b-los-incas1.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/b-interior2.jpg

http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/7003/b82oe.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/b-carlos-gardel1.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4637/b16wf.jpg

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/5558/b22wk.jpg

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1497/b31ei.jpg

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/5630/b52sd.jpg

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/9838/b999ot.jpg

http://img494.imageshack.us/img494/4144/b90rn.jpg

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/3590/b815lv.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/estaciones/gallardo-gal1233.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/estaciones/GAL001.jpg

Line C was opened in 1933. 4.4 km, 9 stations 278.000 passengers per day

9/11/1934 - Constitución - Diagonal Norte
6/2/1936 - Diagonal Norte - Retiro (General San Martín opened 17/8/1937)

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/historia/GAL207.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/c-independencia1.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/estaciones/gal018.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/img335/4815/moreno48wi.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/img335/7058/moreno35qz.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/coches/gal064b.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/coches/gal664b.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/coches/Dsc00414.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/estaciones/gal610.jpg

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3514/d22fv.jpg

http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/8443/d36bx.jpg

Line D was opened in 1936. 11 km , 16 stations 385.000 passengers per day

3/6/1937 - Catedral - Tribunales (1,700 m)
23/2/1940 - Tribunales - Palermo
29/12/1987 - Palermo - Ministro Carranza
31/5/1997 - Ministro Carranza - José Hernández
21/6/1999 - José Hernández - Juramento
27/4/2000 - Juramento - Congreso de Tucumán
The former project to extend Line D from Congreso de Tucumán to Manuela Pedraza, was indefinitely postponed.

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/d-congreso-de-tucuman1.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/d-juramento1.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/estaciones/gal615.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/coches/tren01.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/coches/tren02.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/coches/gal054b.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/estaciones/gal618.jpg

http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/8800/d17cd.jpg

http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/1394/d29mi.jpg

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/1236/d71eo.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/coches/gal664b.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/coches/Dsc00414.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4499/d964tk.jpg

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/3296/d941cq.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8109/d955dl.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/coches/GAL062b.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/estaciones/palermo-GAL833.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/v2/Images/galeria/estaciones/juramento-gal1280.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1657/d17ns.jpg

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4632/d59fe.jpg

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/03/03/fotos/t018dh01.jpg

http://subtes.servehttp.com/scc/alstomd.jpg

Line E was opened in 1944 9.2 km, 15 stations 104.000 passengers per day

20/6/1944 - San José (Plaza Constitución) - General Urquiza (3 km)
12/1944 - General Urquiza - Boedo
24/4/1966 - Boedo - Av. La Plata and San José - Bolívar
23/6/1973 - Av. La Plata - José María Moreno
7/10/1985 - José María Moreno - Emilio Mitre
31/10/1985 - Emilio Mitre - Medalla Milagrosa
27/11/1985 - Medalla Milagrosa - Varela
8/5/1986 - Varela - Plaza de los Virreyes

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/coches/gal542b.jpg

http://www.metrovias.com.ar/images/galeria/estaciones/DSC00435.jpg

http://tinypic.com/ifxvg9.jpg

http://www.zeusao.com/palucho/DSCN0176.JPG

http://subtes.servehttp.com/scc/E1.JPG

http://subtes.servehttp.com/scc/E2.JPG

and a planned extension from Bolívar to Retiro (2 intermediate station C.Central and Catalinas) (2010)

Its under construction the new line H from Hospitales, Parque Patricios, Caseros, Inclán, Humberto Primo, Venezuela, Plaza Once and Corrientes Total 4.5 kms (2008/ 2009)

http://www.zeusao.com/palucho/h/h14.jpg

http://www.zeusao.com/palucho/h/h16.jpg

http://www.zeusao.com/palucho/h/h22.jpg

And planed new lines F,G,I,J,K.

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buen/ba-projects.gif

[ger]

The Jr Yamanote line is consider a metro line runs arround Tokyo(No suburbs), and the frecuency is 3 minutes everyday. And lines like Tokyo Metro Tozai line go to Chiba´s prefecture (Urayasu-N Funabashi) in the ground it is a metro?

[ZZ-II]

It's very Easy to understand the Subway of Berlin :)

[kashyap3]

the montreal subway is good, but not the best
its not even the best in Canada
personal opinion:
its quite ugly and tacky, the trains are old and so are the stations
they went down a path of no return and the expensive designs are pointless for an mts

[micro]

I think Montréal's subway is not ugly but extraordinarily interesting, some stations are really elegant: see here (http://mic-ro.com/metro/montreal.html)

Maybe it look a little 60's or 70's in some places, but where's the problem?

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7426/montreallasalleentr0qf.jpg http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7229/montrealdelegliseentr4de.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/829/montrealgeorgesvanier4zb.jpg http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2217/montrealgeorgesvanierplatform9.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5324/montrealmonkfigures4pu.jpg http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/9203/montrealnamurconcourse8wn.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8172/montrealdelasavaneconcourse7vk.jpg http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3474/montrealuniversite7ch.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/724/montrealsaintmichel5fs.jpg http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4563/montrealcremazie7lr.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5753/montrealviau5tq.jpg http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3913/montrealhonorebeaugrand2kj.jpg

[Bitxofo]

^^Yes, Montreal metro is very interesting.
:yes:
And many stations are works of art.
;)
Please, check the web site of my good friend Matt:

www.metrodemontreal.com
:wink2: