Seriously .....I have no slightest hint that they are constructing such a behemoth in KL!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:



World’s biggest courthouse


KUALA LUMPUR: The new Kuala Lumpur court complex, scheduled for completion in February next year, will be the biggest in the world, with 77 courtrooms.

The RM290mil complex will house the magistrate’s courts (26 courtrooms), Sessions Courts (21 courtrooms) and the High Court, including the Family Court (30 courtrooms).

Work on the project, under the Seventh Malaysia Plan, started on March 1 last year.

Already 17% complete, it is two weeks ahead of schedule, said Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Mohd Radzi Sheikh Ahmad, who visited the site in Jalan Duta here, yesterday.

Once the complex is ready, the present courthouse at the Sultan Abdul Samad Building here will no longer be used.







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Mohd Radzi (left) looking at a model of the new court complex with Public Works Department building works branch director Nur Haizi Abdul Hai and bar Council president Kuthubul Zaman Bukhari (right).








Sited on a 12ha piece of land, the new court complex will have a library, tunnel access to holding rooms for the accused and will employ the use of television to air court hearings or for giving of evidence by child witnesses.

The increased number of courtrooms will certainly assist in speeding up court hearings and clearing the backlog of cases.

“We want to ensure that the facilities reflect the building that symbolises justice. We want it to be comfortable for the public, staff and judges,” Mohd Radzi said.

The complex’s location is strategic as it is near the Masjid Wilayah, Government Offices Complex, Matrade, and the National Archives.

Mohd Radzi also said that allocations under the Ninth Malaysia Plan could be used to improve existing old courthouses.

He added that it was up to the Culture, Arts and Heritage Ministry to decide what is to become of the Sultan Abdul Samad building once the courts are relocated, as it was a heritage building.

:eek: Nice architecture! Can confuse tourists since it looks like a colonial one!

I thought they suppose to move all court to Putrajaya previously? What happen now. I did notice about the construction of the building cause sometimes I pass that road to go to Sri Hartamas...

Off topic..is the Brunei Amedeo building on Tungku Hill still abandoned it's construction?

Off topic..is the Brunei Amedeo building on Tungku Hill still abandoned it's construction?

Still :ohno:

Big news - what is going on? I thought they want to decentralise to Putrajaya, now building this also. I think that what they need are more judges, better case handling, less bureaucracy to make the legal system more efficient. Then only more courts. 77 courts are useless without 77 judges sitting at the same time. And I'm disappointed by the design. Why neo-classical allusions under a domed roof? IMHO it's better to invest in cutting edge contemporary architecture to give the archaic legal system a new image. To build in this style and to this excess is not good taste IMHO. There is too much obsession with building monuments. It's OK to build a mosque or church in that style, but not a court IMHO. The court must be forward-looking, practical, open and dignified but not intimidating.

Glad to know that the old courts will be retained and hopefully restored. I would like to see it become a museum personally! :D

when i heard of it in the news yesterday, i thought it would be in Putrajaya......

so, what's gonna happen to Palace of Justice??

It's odd for sure...Greco-Roman facade combined with Islamic design....thre is a message in that or I'll eat my boots...

It actually makes sense... you can't expect all the judges, lawyers, defendents, witness, police, translators, interpreters, etc to travel all the way to Putrajaya whenever there are court cases. Punctuality is very important to these professionals.

He added that it was up to the Culture, Arts and Heritage Ministry to decide what is to become of the Sultan Abdul Samad building once the courts are relocated, as it was a heritage building.

I would like to see it to become an Opera House, Concert Hall, Theaters, gallery. The arts district of Kuala Lumpur...all the way from the Dataran Merdeka to the Old KTM's building. Museum distric located at between the Islaminc Arts Museum and National Museum. Like singapore maybe they could convert the old railway station into an art centre, KTM's HQ into a boutique hotel, National History Musuem into a chamber concert hall, textile museum into sort of westend musical theater, Pos Malaysia HQ into Mordern arts museum...and the Centre Market's open air performance. Turn the pre-war shop house into a high class shopping and fine dinning boulevard along palm trees..
The Jalan Tun Razak's national library, national theater, Istana budaya, gallery...etc are so far away! The goverment should invest more on arts now..
I'm just dreaming... :)

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wah!its huge!No wonder i saw lots of construction over there last month.i thought it was the construction site for Matrade but was wondering why they needed so much space

The RM290mil complex will house the magistrate’s courts (26 courtrooms), Sessions Courts (21 courtrooms) and the High Court, including the Family Court (30 courtrooms).






Well....interesting observation most of you guys have. Yes, our govt's effort in moving all the govt machinery to Putrajaya had been a success in a way but why this courthouse since we already had The Palace Of Justice?

Like what Lastresorter had said, you can't expect all the people in a trial to be present at Putrajaya. Furthermore KL had many cases and trials that would only be sensible if all we're to be done in the city. Just like Penang, Ipoh and all the other cities and towns in the countries with its own courthouses (smaller ones of course). So this courthouse is merely a 'branch' of the Palace Of Justice.

The Palace Of Justice (POJ) isn't just courthouses. It is also a museum, judiciary offices and all other things related to our judiciary system are housed there. Furthermore it isn't big enough to house the number of courthouses that Klang Valley needed.

Also, POJ housed the highest court in the land - the Federal Court. Thus, it is the 'HQ' of our juduciary. ;)


No doubt contemporary architecture does usually project forward-looking, practical, open and dignified image that are arguably suited most to our archaic judiciary system. But that might not be in the mind of our govt that our courts should be built in neo-classical architecture to project an image of strength, stability, maturity, well-balanced and dare I said - Western! :D Well....that's tha impression I got from seeing the model - almost like a 'mat salleh wearing a songkok' (neo-classical overall architecture with onion domes) :D hmmmm.......they just can't have neo-classical arch all thru......so it looks like an afterthought that they placed the domes over.

I must say it isn't that bad-looking. Probably they would like to achieve the same kind of familiar look with the Palace of Justice, Putra Perdana Complex and Bangunan Sultan Abdul Samad - all that blends classical architecture with Mohgul elements ;)

I would like to see it to become an Opera House, Concert Hall, Theaters, gallery. The arts district of Kuala Lumpur...all the way from the Dataran Merdeka to the Old KTM's building. Museum distric located at between the Islaminc Arts Museum and National Museum. Like singapore maybe they could convert the old railway station into an art centre, KTM's HQ into a boutique hotel, National History Musuem into a chamber concert hall, textile museum into sort of westend musical theater, Pos Malaysia HQ into Mordern arts museum...and the Centre Market's open air performance. Turn the pre-war shop house into a high class shopping and fine dinning boulevard along palm trees..
The Jalan Tun Razak's national library, national theater, Istana budaya, gallery...etc are so far away! The goverment should invest more on arts now..
I'm just dreaming... :)


yea great idea! :okay: I was thinking about the same thing too after my visit to Singapore a few years back. ;)

I wouldn't convert KTM HQ into a hotel ....maybe a museum or something (could incorporate a small hotel). The old railway station's Heritage Hotel would remain a hotel but a more upmarket one. Perhaps the grandest hotel in that district that I would commissioned would be the former Art Gallery which originally the building itself is a grand hotel - Hotel Majestic ;) It would be like Raffles Hotel of Singapore :D

So let me join you in dreaming lah :lol:

No doubt contemporary architecture does usually project forward-looking, practical, open and dignified image that are arguably suited most to our archaic judiciary system. But that might not be in the mind of our govt that our courts should be built in neo-classical architecture to project an image of strength, stability, maturity, well-balanced and dare I said - Western! :D Well....that's tha impression I got from seeing the model - almost like a 'mat salleh wearing a songkok' (neo-classical overall architecture with onion domes) :D hmmmm.......they just can't have neo-classical arch all thru......so it looks like an afterthought that they placed the domes over.

This doesn't excuse poor taste. Nobody builds in this style anymore - neither westerners nor Asians. Just another case of unnecessary excess and poor taste IMHO.

Since it's so big, i don't think there will be much details on the facade but then I'll just wait and see :cool:

This doesn't excuse poor taste. Nobody builds in this style anymore - neither westerners nor Asians. Just another case of unnecessary excess and poor taste IMHO.


Hahaha......wouldn't this be a unique and dare I say 'funky' architecture. :D


ANyway I wouldn't comment on the 'excess' part as this could well be a normal building with some domes over it and not using expensive granite and stuffs. I can't confirm that but we'll see ;)


I would rather it built in this fashion than certain ultra contemporary architecture that probably last only like a few years. IMO this is much more lasting. Furthermore it is still now too early to judge. ;)

Is this still going on?

I just went to Putrajaya last week and I saw Palace of Justice (the name for Putrajaya courthouse??). It is.... MAJESTIC!

I just went to Putrajaya last week and I saw Palace of Justice (the name for Putrajaya courthouse??). It is.... MAJESTIC!

More Precisely... Palace of Your Majesty' Justice

in my opinion, The Palace of Justice in Putrajaya is the Federal High Court (Mahkamah Tinggi Persekutuan) of Malaysia, which will be the last stage that the appeal been made, and the KL Courthouse will be the Malaya High Court (Mahkamah Tinggi Tanah Melayu).
This is just my opinion from reviewing the constitution of Malaysia

gee... so so dissappointed with the design.... our government really can't break away with a box + a dome.... sigh :(

World’s biggest courthouse



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malaysian courthouse with greek architecture ?....
common jkr .. ...

mana our heritage .

i dont see any element of MALAYSIAN culture inside the building!

^^ the dome!!:D

^^ the dome!!:D
nope, for example, Putrajaya Prime Minister Office, the dome represent the Malay element, the roof, looks like the Palace Museum in Beijing, represent the Chinese element, the pillars, look like the pillar of the Asoka, represent Indian element. Combination of these elements are called "Malaysian" element. However, in this case, i just saw malay element, no chinese, no siam, no indian. thus i said there is not Malaysian element.::cheers::

The new city hall in Brunei will look like this too.

How come no one complain Bangunan Sultan Abdul Samad wan? :D

Afterall...this building started it all and the Ecclectic Neo-Classical + Eastern design is unique to this part of the world ;) So we are indeed doing something unique here :)

BTW, pass by this building, and it is like 60% completed liao........very very big oh! :eek:

Too bad can't take any pics as it is partially blocked by trees and the car was travelling kinda fast along Jalan Kuching :(

nope, for example, Putrajaya Prime Minister Office, the dome represent the Malay element, the roof, looks like the Palace Museum in Beijing, represent the Chinese element, the pillars, look like the pillar of the Asoka, represent Indian element. Combination of these elements are called "Malaysian" element. However, in this case, i just saw malay element, no chinese, no siam, no indian. thus i said there is not Malaysian element.::cheers::


Actually the Perdana Putra building had only local (I would say Malaysian) and neo-classical architecture.

The domes actually isn't Malay at all. Onion domes are from Muhgal of North India. The roof is actually Malay or should I say South-East Asian (Nusantara). The pillars are noe-classical actually with a bit of localised design. Other design elements have Bunga Raya and Songket patterns.

I wouldn't wanna see an all-race architectural elemtent.....it would be too rojak :D

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Far left are Antah tower, Sri Putramas condos and its phase 2, Royal Domain condominium along the Kuching Road.

^^ nice pic!! looks huge alright!!

^^ looks promising :cool: hope the interior will look great and grand :cool:

where exactly is it located? Looking forward to it's completion. ;)

if u r using Jalan Kuching on the way to Kuala Lumpur, I think you could see some parts of the building being constructed. It was like a huge castle being made!! By the way nice picture James Foong!!!

New Moorish design!
Like Bangunan Sultan Abdul Samad maybe this playsafe design will last longer and become a vintage after 100 years :)

I love domes :D





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The domes actually isn't Malay at all. Onion domes are from Muhgal of North India. rojak :D

I have been to India....I love indian architecture(Muhgal and ancient)..very impressive. I learned that actually some european and many british victorian architecture were copied(rojak) from them.

I sincerely hope it won't turn up tacky like Monash Uni!

the 1,ooo,ooo question mark is why is it not in putrajaya?emm

^ If it's in Putrajaya, I think it will be a bit too far from the population for something that has 77 courtrooms ;)

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Awesome shot! The building looks somehow mall-ish. Looks like they are done with the main dome skeleton!
Quite a number of constructions in the background too! :cool:

There ll be a heavy lifting soon, perhaps in a month time.

what's the point of having the world's largest courthose when injustices occur on a large and grand scale in the judiciary system?

Any update!?

Any update!?

Nothing except that the Lina Joy case clearly demostrated that Malaysia is being the biggest hypocrite by building the world's largest court house when high court judges blatantly disregarded an explicit fundamental right in the constitution. I hope the politicians dont go around bragging about this. It makes me sick.

Aerial from google.com (2004)!
I'm hoping for more beautiful gov't projects in this area!

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Aerial from google.com (2004)!
I'm hoping for more beautiful gov't projects in this area!

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WOW !! :runaway: :runaway: :scouserd:

Nothing except that the Lina Joy case clearly demostrated that Malaysia is being the biggest hypocrite by building the world's largest court house when high court judges blatantly disregarded an explicit fundamental right in the constitution. I hope the politicians dont go around bragging about this. It makes me sick.


Thanks for answering Nazrey's question with the first word of your sentence. The rest of it seems redundant and doesn't deserve any mention in this thread. Please comment all you like in the Article 11 thread in Mamak. :yes:

The last thing I want is for someone to hijack this thread and turn this into a political slugfest :ohno:

i have a few close up pic of mahkamah kl. i don't know how to attach it. can anyone help me so that i can attach the pictures in this thread

you have to go to http://photobucket.com/ to register and upload your photos at the website and use the link of the photo given by the website and paste it here.......

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After the close-up shot by fadliarabi, I think its a nice building. But if thats the only parking lots available, well ........ Should have at least double-storey parking IMO. then turn the top floor of that parking lots into park. - Join Szehoong in the dreaming club.

there are about 900 parking spaces including basement parking, beside the mahkamah and infront of the mahkamah.

This courthouse looks like it is catering for the rich with cars only (all the elaborate driveways and parking) What about the common folks who take the transit to use the courthouse? Looks like they have to brave the rain or glaring sun to walk up the long slope and ramp from the main road to get into the courthouse.

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constuction seems fast! love the roman pillars :happy:

i wonder why don't they build the dome at the top of the building. wouldn't that save them the difficult job of lifting it to the top?

at the first stage, they have plan to assemble the dome on top of the roof but the problem is that the dome is 32m high and limited of space for assembling the scaffolding. so another option is by lifting the dome although its quite expensive job. by the way the last structure have been lift off on Saturday that is the pinnacle about 11m high. all together the dome is about 43m high.

awww man, I don't know bout this one....to be honest with yah, I think it's a lil tacky and 'half baked', from far not too bad but up close...there no details to the collums/pillars...and ceilings...and the mix of moorish and roman and colonial...sheesssh...I don't know man, it's a BIG mess....and the other thing, c'mmon the bulding resembles Palace of Justice in P'Jaya...I mean not neccesarily excatly copy but the big dome in the middle...
My 2 cents - local architects gotta be a little more creative instead of hovering around ideas and concepts of what is hot and try something different..it's okay to blend different styles but dude...this one is a bust...
don't get mad yeh, just my personal opinion... :runaway:

when the design stage took place. there are about 5 deference type of design presented to the past Chief Justice at the melaka for the first stage design brief and at the bukit tinggi for the second stage design briefs. the design have deference approach and concept such as hi-tech and modern design more to used of steel structure, pitch roof building more to tropical climate and neo colonial design with domes on top. so after presented to the CJ, he decided to choose these design to be new kl courthouse.

Singapore's courthouse by Norman foster has a panoptic UFO spaceship (to better subject its citizens to scrutiny, in 360 degrees) and a laminated marble skin that best resembles flayed human skin.

Modern interpretations of civic architecture can go haywire.

Kitsch interpretations of civic features from colonial buildings also go haywire.

The facade looks a bit boring. I guess they want to keep the cost low as much money has been poured into it's szie.

panoptic UFO spaceship (to better subject its citizens to scrutiny, in 360 degrees)


nicholasliha, sarcasm huh? :lol: or is it really the general interpretations by the public? :lol:

awww man, I don't know bout this one....to be honest with yah, I think it's a lil tacky and 'half baked', from far not too bad but up close...there no details to the collums/pillars...and ceilings...and the mix of moorish and roman and colonial...sheesssh...I don't know man, it's a BIG mess....and the other thing, c'mmon the bulding resembles Palace of Justice in P'Jaya...I mean not neccesarily excatly copy but the big dome in the middle...
My 2 cents - local architects gotta be a little more creative instead of hovering around ideas and concepts of what is hot and try something different..it's okay to blend different styles but dude...this one is a bust...
don't get mad yeh, just my personal opinion... :runaway:

Rojak Architecture is what the building is. All a big mambo jambo mess

World’s biggest court complex ready soon
Saturday September 9, 2006
TheStar


PUTRAJAYA: The new Kuala Lumpur court complex, slated to be the world’s biggest, will be ready within six months.

Prime Minister’s Department legal affairs division deputy director-general Hamidah Khalid said although work on the project was slightly delayed, it would be completed by March next year.

She said construction, which began on a 12.1ha piece of land along the Jalan Duta area on March 1, 2004, was now 97% completed.

According to Hamidah, besides housing 30 High Courts, 21 Sessions Courts and 26 magistrate courts, there would also be 500 parking bays for the public, 300 bays for court staff and 200 bays for judges and magistrates.

“The court complex will also be landscaped, providing rest areas and even a mini park for the public,” said Hamidah who briefed Yang Di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin during his working visit to the Palace of Justice recently.

Hamidah also said there would be four courtrooms designated for the use of television to air court hearings or for child witnesses to give evidence.

She added that the complex would also have a business centre and tunnel access to holding rooms for the accused. Closed-circuit television cameras would be placed all over the complex.

“Wireless Internet connection will be available throughout the complex vicinity and there are plans to introduce e-Court facilities that would enable court procedures to be done online,” she said.

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testing N commisioning

The more I see the larger it is.Lighting seems promising.Hope it will enhance the already grand court house:)

lighting looks quite good. i would want to see it fully lighted up

too many domes lar......like putrajaya...almost every building dome domes domesz.......boring....,,...but i agree with lightings at night.....looks very promosing.....The building at night looks like allthose buildings in Rome or Paris at night...hehe

I find the cubes at the corners very unsightly. :(

:eek: wow it is really big :appaluse:

Its a nice structure overall, I just wished they built it in a more centralized area of KL. Same goes with the KL mosque in the background. The area chosen seems to be quite residential, I find it odd to find a court house located in a residential neighbourhood. The very least, a few nice scrapers around the court complex would spruce the place up a bit. Just my view.

I finally got to see it in person just now. Like the choice of color..but I would prefer a geo dome rather than an onion style one.

why built this when there's Palace of Justice. Do both serve the same function?

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Wow!! Great pictures... Now if only some commercial buildings rise up, a few office towers, I find it odd if the courthouse is in a residential area. Is there potential for this, or is the area gazetted for housing?

actually i'm not an expert in justice but from what i understood there are many types of court that serves different degree/level depend on the crime.The courts can be federal court,high court,magistrate and so on.that's why they have this court and the palace of justice as it serve for different cases depending on the level of crime.and a particular court can have magistrate and high court.some of the have only one function eg. federal court.PLZ correct me if i'm wrong.

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wah,nice....how did you enter the building?

Very beautiful, except for the cubes sticking out at the corners.

Very beautiful, except for the cubes sticking out at the corners.

can't agree more with you...those cubes are way oversized!

What happens to SAS Building then? Still remain as high court or are they gonna relocate?

I dont mind the domes and the architecture.. but it can be much much much better if they mix it with a modern contemporary ..

exp: high ceiling, big windows glass, so can get a natural light etc..

.dont like the colour of the building..
the court rooms - looks like in the mid age european.. very small and low ceiling..
mmm...:ohno:

Personally I don't think the cubes should be there at all. And the columns at the entrance looks horribliy mis-balanced.

When I look at the facade, I'm drawn to the cubes, and not to the main building itself. The pendiment could had been bigger.

As for the interior, I'm sure more could had been done. The ceiling looks like some shopping centre.

I just saw the building for the first time when the bus to KL I took from Ipoh approached the Hentian Duta bus station.It is really big and mind boggling even from afar,it reminds me of the fictitious Agrabah palace in Disney's Aladdin.

Courthouses are a solemn and reputable buildings...sometimes its saddening to see shophouses turn into magistrate courts...Its should have its own building with majestic and stand alone building.IMO this huge courthouse is to place all the different departments and courts in one roof.

the interior is not as nice as i expect it to be. agree with redstone that it looks like a shopping centre

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thanks Nazrey..hope u can find more:D:D

so, what would happen to the bangunan sultan abdul samad after this project complete?

If i am not mistaken it will be the new barisan nasional memorial building!!!

If i am not mistaken it will be the new barisan nasional memorial building!!!

You're joking right?

He is always joking :D

I have heard that it could possibly be some sort of a museum or memorial thingy :yes:

museum is the best to be built...like...History of Kuala Lumpur Museum. u know, put those KL's old pictures from arkib negara or NSTP. let people know how this mining village turned into a prosperous city....

and...the lighting have to be a little bit 'world class' lah..like the singapore national museum...not that crappy hanging small yellow bulb.

Hee Hee but i am sure there are certain menteri already thinking of it already !Ha ha.But trully the town planners will have to think of something for these places including the old railway station and of course the old magestic hotel i
really sakit hati when i go by these places.Its really the nices part of KL but with no proper long term planning its gone,Then another rais yatim will come along saying there is no historical value to it !!!

^^ restoration process needs big amount of ringgit...but sometimes i agree with rais yatim...it's just a "rich man's house". bcoz u know...people doesn't care when it was still in front of their eyes but start 'bising' when it was gone...:ohno:

that is malaysian mentality...i guess

^^ restoration process needs big amount of ringgit...but sometimes i agree with rais yatim...it's just a "rich man's house". bcoz u know...people doesn't care when it was still in front of their eyes but start 'bising' when it was gone...:ohno:

that is malaysian mentality...i guess



OMG....I can't believe someone with interest in architecture would say such thing. His 'rich man's house' comment is certainly very shallow and unintelligent and I do not wish to see more people of having such thoughts.

Our govt is spending an obscene amount of money building a new Istana, a sports complex in UK, big corporate jets (when they already have 4 large ones) and many more money-wasting projects......I am sure that spending a portion of such money on the Bok House or the Railway Station or the Majestic Hotel isn't too much to ask for right? Afterall these are our heritage and heritage sites do generate income if properly restored and marketed :yes:

If you do read the news frequently, people do not start bising only recently. There were fears of its impending demolition way back in 2001 when the Le Coq D' Or closes down. Then in early 2005, Badan Warisan recommended the Bok House for preservation under the new parlimentary Act. It was their first recommendation under the new law.

There are many articles on the Bok House for years calling for its preservation in the newspapers. In fact the Bok House thread here predates its demolition by many many months. So it is not a 'fad' thingy nor that Malaysians do not care. And certainly an architectural gem do not deserve such end because the lack of public sympathy and widespread ignorance. :ohno:

Again I would like to say that the Bok House isn't just a house. It is an architectural symbol of its era and one of the finest residence in South East Asia of its time. Its architectural value is priceless as it is one of the few gems that sucessfully blends local and western architecture.

Our Government don't know how to preserve value buidling. but always try to achieve World Largest.

Building a world largest courthouse is just to tell people that we have lots of crime cases to solve/settle... a lot of problem.... Haha... funny.

szehoong, what i said about 'rich man's house' is just sarcastic. just like you, i'm totally regret of our gov policy toward heritage buildings...and also i'm so upset with malaysian mentality which is mostly are less educated about the value of those strucures....

but i remember in last year budget....Pak Lah did say that there's an allocation for refurbishing bangunan sultan abdul samad...

Nice building but whats the point? Maybe the size of the structure is proportionate to the size of corruption in Malaysia?

Too many white elephants?

who says it's a white elephants?

Nice building but whats the point? Maybe the size of the structure is proportionate to the size of corruption in Malaysia?

Can't u read,it's a court building.

Please read from the first page of thsi thread.It'd kill some ignorance out of you.

such strong language Forestcat, maybe I take you to the new courthouse for threatening me.

A courthouse is a building that is home to a local court of law and often the regional county government as well. A court is a public forum used by a power base to adjudicate disputes and dispense civil, labour, administrative and criminal justice under its laws so this facility is a venue to deal with corruption, albeit perhaps not the real corruption issues facing our country which are far more difficult to deal with.

That said, for a country of 25mm people why such a mamoth facility? its almost an admission of large problem within the populous.

And i won't take you to court Forestcat, we can be friends lah.

the court will house mahkamah majistret, mahkamah tinggi, mahkamah sivil and mahkamah whatsoever in one roof. so, that size is normal!...no need to act like 'hero of rakyat' here! stop those 'opposition freak' rite now!

such strong language Forestcat, maybe I take you to the new courthouse for threatening me.

A courthouse is a building that is home to a local court of law and often the regional county government as well. A court is a public forum used by a power base to adjudicate disputes and dispense civil, labour, administrative and criminal justice under its laws so this facility is a venue to deal with corruption, albeit perhaps not the real corruption issues facing our country which are far more difficult to deal with.

That said, for a country of 25mm people why such a mamoth facility? its almost an admission of large problem within the populous.

And i won't take you to court Forestcat, we can be friends lah.

U are what we Malaysians internet surfers call have 'thin ears' aka 'telinga nipis'.:lol: :nuts: Or my English is just too good for you.

As I said,read this whole thread before making statements 'that is a waste of money'.We get too many of that.

U are a newbie and probably dun understand that this forum is not the usual political bashing forum.:ohno: .

sorry to offend you forestcat, my apologies. and back to the origianl point of this website, it is a bueatiful strucutre for generations to enjoy for sure.

But a s starnge location, cannot been seen from many locations.

Not strange werz. It's located on the govt. land and saves govent money from buying new land.

Now that we have the"world largest courthouse" surely we need the world largest prison to go with it!!

Now that we have the"world largest courthouse" surely we need the world largest prison to go with it!!

Haha... you are right!

Haha... you are right!

Then we need more manpower to catch those Bad guys..So mesti ada World Largest Police Station! :lol:

Then, Malaysia will be famous bcoz we have many things with 'The Largest .....'.:lol:

^^ who knows that might actually come true :D

Nope not to worry for sure we will have the LARGEST HUTANG to pay off.Dont knowlah how much more they will korek from EPF or any where else they can korek !!Only for the future generation to pay off!!!

BTW the govt have this huge court complex is to address the insufficient court rooms that we are facing at the moment. Of course I've also heard that once this mammoth facility are finished, there are not enuf judges (rumours) but then again that this time our govt are doing something positive lah.

So why are the criticism? If they built a small one then people kutuk......now they built a large one people kutuk......what lah. I can see this kinda never ending .....just like KLIA debate.

Errr......we are kinda out of topic liao :yes:

So why are the criticism? If they built a small one then people kutuk......now they built a large one people kutuk......what lah. I can see this kinda never ending .....just like KLIA debate.


biasalah tu..org malaysia:lol:

Nope not to worry for sure we will have the LARGEST HUTANG to pay off.Dont knowlah how much more they will korek from EPF or any where else they can korek !!Only for the future generation to pay off!!!

You points out the baseless fact. Can’t you be a positive minded person? Talk only the fact from know source. If you not sure the fact, or just listened from friends chatting in the kopitiam, you better don’t talk.

Hey kawan dont take get me wronglah just kidding!!But sometimes cant help thinking where all this money our projects come from???UNTIL today they wont tell how much it cost to build the north south highway!!So as the other highways!!Akta Rahsia kerajaan what does that tell you!!

I think the weirdest thing here was to correlate the number of criminal cases to the size of the court and then the size of jails!!! :gaah: Would you look at a sprawling mansion and conclude that 100 people live inside it?

I personally think the idea is good (to relocate and centralize the courts), but whether it is the biggest or tiniest is of no interest to me.

:bash: Case closed long before these courts open for business i surely dont want to be the first Ha Ha:lol:

The first criminal convicted ll be very lucky to go down the history.

I don't like this building, not because of the conspiracy theories associated with it, but because of how it looks.

First of all, it's size. Because it's one building intended to house several courts, it's unnecessarily HUGE. And what's wrong with a design with multiple buildings? They're more ecstatically pleasing and are equally flexible.

What really discomforts me is how the facade looks really rushed and cartoonish up close. It's like the architect of this building thought it was a good idea to overdo every feature associated with colonial neoclassical architecture (verandahs, columns, crowns), and throw in huge square blocks and boobies (erg, I mean domes) on the top, yet slack off on other minor features such as the windows on the central structure, behind the columns. It just lacks the charm the old buildings around Merdeka Square have, by treating the exterior as nothing but a pretty face to an otherwise bland and poorly designed structure. Reminds me of those shoddy double module projects in university.

Frankly, I would prefer a more contemporary design over this. There are a good number of courthouses overseas that don't need to look old to be a "place of justice".

World’s biggest court complex to open in May


PUTRAJAYA: The city’s newest landmark – the world’s biggest court complex (http://thestar.com.my/archives/2007/3/11/nation/n_pg01complex.jpg) – will be fully operational in Jalan Duta in May.

Acting Chief Registrar of the Federal Court Ahmad Terriruddin Mohd Salleh said court employees had been taken on familiarisation tours of the RM290mil complex in stages since Tuesday.

“The staff will be moving their things to the 77-courtroom complex by April 9.
“By May 3, the courts should be ready to convene cases there,” he said, adding that the move would mark the beginning of the centralisation of all the courts in the city.

He also said the staff would be provided with chartered buses at a reasonable monthly fee.
“The operator of the RapidKL fleet of buses has also been asked to provide public transportation to the complex,” Ahmad Terriruddin said.

The complex will house 30 High Courts, 21 Sessions Courts and 26 magistrate courts, and will have 500 parking bays for the public, 300 bays for court staff and 200 bays for judges and magistrates.
Four courtrooms will be designated for the use of television to air court hearings or for child witnesses to give evidence.

The officer-in-charge of court policemen, ASP Zulkifli Osman, told The Star that 13 prosecuting officers would be reporting for duty at the new court complex.

New court complex in KL opens for business
Wednesday April 18, 2007
TheStar


KUALA LUMPUR: The world-class Kuala Lumpur Courts Complex in Jalan Duta opened its doors yesterday to the public.

The RM290mil complex houses 30 High Courts, 21 Sessions Courts and 26 magistrate courts.

Four courtrooms are designated for the use of television to air court hearings or for child witnesses to give evidence.

It has 500 parking bays for the public, 300 for court staff and 200 for judges and magistrates.

Lawyers and litigants were there to file civil suits and to attend cases in the civil division High Courts, which sat for the first time there.

They loved the design of the world’s second largest courthouse.

Many, however, had problems finding the right courtroom or registrars’ chambers or even the lavatories without assistance from staff members of the court.

The court personnel, including registrars and interpreters, were stationed at the spacious main lobby and every wing on each of the eight-level building.

Kuala Lumpur Sessions and magistrate’s courts senior registrar Ong Wee Ching said the personnel would be there for a month.

“The response was very good. We started our counter at 8am and the first 500 brochures were snapped up by 10am.

“The brochures contain maps of every level and location of the public car parks,” she said, adding that 1,200 more brochures would be distributed.

Ong added that the counter would be opened from 8.30am to 5pm every day for a month.

“Most people who have cases here would ask for directions to the courtrooms.

“Lawyers would also ask about the way to the registries or the senior assistant registrars’ or deputy registrars’ chambers,” she said.

At the handing-over ceremony on Tuesday, Works Minister Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu explained that the building, built by the Public Works Department, had an integrated and symmetrical design.

They loved the design of the world’s second largest courthouse.

second largest??:?:?

yup, 1st is India's

yup, 1st is India's

hmm.. that's new...

any info about that one??

suddenly india surpass us ... haha

i doubt that it is 'suddenly'. i mean, this kind of news shouldn't just pop out of nowhere. i think what we have here is just the media 'not doing your homework'. they are fed with news that the courthouse is the biggest in the world, and they go ahead with that news. if they are hardworking enough, they can find out what the other countries are doing.

and now that it is completed, we only tell ppl, "oh, it's the second biggest"

not that size matters, but we look just kinda dumb.

it was reported in utusan. i'm not sure it is true or not, bcoz i cannot find any confirmation that india has a world's largest court house...but try to look at their current courthouse which is pretty huge!

India Supreme Court (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=28.622237,77.239584&t=h&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=17&ll=28.622237,77.239584&spn=0.006818,0.009978&iwloc=addr)

by superciliousness

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/402782769_aee6d1166d_b.jpg

Complex to house night court
Wednesday April 25, 2007
By M. MAGESWARI
TheStar


KUALA LUMPUR: The new RM290mil court complex, which will be fully operational in Jalan Duta from May 3, will also house a night court to hear traffic cases.

Azman Abdullah, who is the senior judge in charge of the Sessions and magistrate’s courts here, said the court would sit from 9am to 8pm on each workday to help the public to clear summonses issued by traffic police and the Road Transport Department involving fines.

Azman said the approach was suggested by Chief Justice Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim to help the public to attend court proceedings to clear their cases.

“The public will now have the choice to attend the court proceedings at night without having to take leave to settle their summonses,” he told reporters after issuing a press statement over the matter at his office yesterday.

For now, Azman said one magistrate would hear such cases at the night court.

“The court is prepared to be operational at the flexible time in order to give a maximum service to the public now,” he said.

He said the move was to prevent members of the public from being blacklisted because of their failure to attend court proceedings after being issued warrants of arrests for traffic offences.

Until yesterday, Azman said, there were between 700 and 1,000 summons cases being registered daily in the traffic courts here.

“Of the figure, only 30% of the public could attend the court proceedings,” he said.

He said the move was initiated to give more facilities to the public.

Azman said payment counters would also be opened to help the payment process for these summons.

“Members of the public could pay their fines immediately after the magistrate fines them,” he said.

However, he said, the magistrates would also be hearing such cases in the morning session.

Chief Judge of Sabah and Sarawak Justice Richard Malanjum had on April 16 said that the night court or magistrate’s traffic court sittings would be held in Kota Kinabalu in May from 6pm to 8pm every Monday and Wednesday.

Justice Richard said the court would initially be limited to hearing minor offences.

Night Court?
Wah lau eh... seem that Malaysia really has lots of criminal cases until the magistrate have to hear cases at the night. Kesian betul...

Tuesday May 1, 2007

Pak Lah orders immediate inspection of government buildings

By SHAHANAAZ HABIB and ZULKIFLI ABD RAHMAN

KUALA LUMPUR: The Prime Minister has ordered an immediate inspection of all government buildings for defects.

This comes in the wake of three incidences of collapsing structures in the last three weeks – the most recent case being the new Court Complex in Jalan Duta, where a ceiling came crashing down yesterday. “I feel angry. I feel ashamed. What the hell is this? It’s so new and such a thing happened. :eek:

“Something must have gone wrong somewhere. We need to know. I can’t be jumping all over the place!” said Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who directed the Public Works Department to carry out immediate inspections.


Just checking: Abdullah and Najib looking up at the ceiling while the subject was on collapsing ceilings during the Umno supreme council meeting in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.
Three weeks ago, operations at the Immigration Department headquarters in Putrajaya came to a standstill because of a burst water pipe.

Last Saturday, part of the ceiling of a multi-purpose hall at the Entrepreneurial Development and Co-operative Ministry collapsed, causing a water pipe to drop and burst in the process.

Yesterday’s incident at the Court Complex was the last straw for the Prime Minister.

He said all three buildings were new and therefore it was imperative that investigations were conducted to determine “what exactly had gone wrong.”

“We have to check all (government) buildings because of what has happened. Maybe there are some other places that we think there is no problem but later they, too, collapse.

“I have said repeatedly, ‘Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance.’ But people, as long as nothing happens, couldn’t be bothered,” he told a press conference after chairing the Umno supreme council meeting yesterday.

He noted that investigations at the Immigration headquarters found that one of the joints to the pipes was not properly secured.

Abdullah reiterated that inspections should be carried out on a continuous basis.

“Only then will they see where there may be problems,” he added.

In Shah Alam, Works Minister Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said two pieces of 1.22m-long ceiling material collapsed inside the new court complex.

He said the collapse also brought down the downlights or ceiling lights that were not attached to the main structure of the ceiling.

Samy Vellu said the building was designed by architects from the PWD headquarters and built by Johawaki Development Sdn Bhd.

“The two pieces fell, along with the downlights, because the contractor had fixed the downlights without attaching them to the main ceiling structure,” he told reporters before opening the 61st Selangor MIC convention yesterday.

On the ceiling at the multi-purpose hall of the Entrepreneurial Development and Cooperative Ministry, Samy Vellu said Putrajaya Holdings was the master builder but the maintenance of the hall was taken over by Jutabina Sempurna Sdn Bhd from Oct 1, 2004 to Sept 30 this year.

rasuah, rasuah and rasuah...
those are irresponsible contractors
bastards are just wasting our precious money!:bash:

i don't think any corruption cases involved....it was just a typical work of JKR.

i don't think any corruption cases involved....it was just a typical work of JKR.

I would believe almost all projects out from government there are more less corruption involved. Be it either personal favours, self-awarded, or monetary rewards.

anyway...it is good that this case becoming a hot news, even PM gives an attention on it. i wonder if Dr. M were still there....everything has to be covered! KASI DIAM....

I can't agree more. Malaysia, blessed with its natural resources and minerals, would have been a developed country by now if it were efficiently managed. It would be a country devoid of incidents like this.

World 2nd largest CRAPHouse - The New KL CRAP Complex!

:cheers: World 2nd largest CRAPHouse - The New KL CRAP Complex!

why not say the whole KL had crap!!.. thats ur hobby right. :cheers:

Not my hobby. KL have a lots of beautiful and quality buildings....KLCC, Maxis tower, Telekom tower....etc.....
But we do have a lot of Crap Building where some not so quality people who sub and sub and sub their work until 4 5 hands... so the last contractor will be using crap material to build crap building.

You not agree to me? Then open your eyes and read the past two weeks newspaper and see how many not so quality building have been failed!!!!!!!

You not feel shame?

:cheers:

why not say the whole KL had crap!!.. thats ur hobby right. :cheers:

Haha... I noticed that with cooltemper too...

I am very sorry, i don't know that personal opinion was not welcome in any thread related to KL.

come come come....have a milo ais first...then we should discuss more:cheers:

to be honest, the bureaucratic culture and the irresponsible and "ali baba" culture is the one that we need to condenm.

^^It’s fine if you bring up these issues occasionally, but not for every post that you make. This forum is about skyscrapers for goodness sakes! There’re must be dozens of other internet forums out there where Malaysians can whine and complain till kingdom comes! It is quite nice that this forum is (or at least was) different from those - here it is more informative, easy going and fun.

But some people tend to think that they are doing us a favour of enlightenment by constantly ringing up political issues and ideas, as if we don’t get enough of that everywhere else! It can be sickening at times!

Most forumers are bent on preserving the original idea of this forum, but a few are completely abusing this channel!

Not my hobby. KL have a lots of beautiful and quality buildings....KLCC, Maxis tower, Telekom tower....etc.....
But we do have a lot of Crap Building where some not so quality people who sub and sub and sub their work until 4 5 hands... so the last contractor will be using crap material to build crap building.

You not agree to me? Then open your eyes and read the past two weeks newspaper and see how many not so quality building have been failed!!!!!!!

You not feel shame?


this building has never gone a 'multi-sub' process. only one contractor (of course minor sub-cons for electrical or something else). unfortunately this contractor did some silly mistake and it is now under investigation. but the whole building was completed nicely, the tiles and the lighting looks impressive.

the thing is...what are the criterias JKR takes when awarding contract to contractor...

cracked concrete is quit normal even in Japan! this due to unsuitable temperature during the compacting process...

it is more ashame when we make it into a big thing and let people form outside malaysia knows this...

I am very sorry, i don't know that personal opinion was not welcome in any thread related to KL.


Argory could not have said it better! :okay:

There is a fine line between personal opinion and dissing. Let me give you an example:

"That person is stupid and a fool for saying such f*ucking things"

"I do not agree with him and what he says makes no sense to me"

Both could have expressed the same sentiments but are presented ina a different way.

I've also noticed that Penangites are hyper-sensitive to anything negative on Penang too. Your last post is akin to the pot calling the kettle black :)

Argory could not have said it better! :okay:

There is a fine line between personal opinion and dissing. Let me give you an example:

"That person is stupid and a fool for saying such f*ucking things"

"I do not agree with him and what he says makes no sense to me"

Both could have expressed the same sentiments but are presented ina a different way.

I've also noticed that Penangites are hyper-sensitive to anything negative on Penang too. Your last post is akin to the pot calling the kettle black :)

hahaha...is it...hyper sensitive ah..then no good lo:nuts: :nuts: :lol:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4149/p1000449kn7.jpg

It is really big.But it would have been better without the domes.

Yup. The dome is ugly to me. Looks like a big bawang sitting ontop.

hmmm..i think..instead of calling it mahkamah besar, we could call it bawang besar.....i think it is a catchy nickname.

hmmm..i think..instead of calling it mahkamah besar, we could call it bawang besar.....i think it is a catchy nickname.

Yup:lol: you are right!

Someone should photoshop a bawang on the roof.:banana:

Someone should photoshop a bawang on the roof.:banana:

Photoshop :banana: Photoshop! Photoshop:lol:

highrises behind that courthouse looks awesome :yes:

i have to agree the shape of the dome is a little unsuitable. a pyramid might look better

eh...really look like bawang...the color make it look more real :nuts:

Just like singapore has durian besar look alike, we hv bawang besar in the city. Kind of city vs. city whose better?

i prefer singapore's durian!!!:banana:

Court complex hit by calamity again

KUALA LUMPUR: Yet another calamity hit the brand-new Jalan Duta court complex yesterday when a faulty pipe burst, causing the cafeteria floor to be flooded.

At about 9.15am yesterday, a burst pipe end cap caused water to gush out from a service room at the basement cafeteria, resulting in much of the floor being covered in 7cm of water.

The incident was the latest in a series of major incidents in less than a month to hit the RM290mil complex, touted as the world's second-largest court complex.

Public Works Department (PWD) director-general Datuk Dr Judin Abdul Karim said the incident was caused by a pipe end cap at a T-joint.

“The end cap was made of UPVC material which is different from the T- joint which was made from ABS class 15. The end cap has been replaced with an ABS elbow class 15 as per the original specification,” he said in a written statement.

Dr Judin, who arrived at the scene at noon, refused to speak to the press and tried hard to stay away from reporters.

His statement was read out by PWD deputy director-general III N. Selvanayagam.

The statement said contractors were despatched to the affected area at 9.30am and the leak was brought under control by 9.40am.

The situation in the cafeteria returned to normal by noon after the cleaning process was completed.

Dr Judin said the PWD would report the main contractor to the Construction Industry Development Board.

He added that the plumber would also not be spared.

When reporters managed to get to him, Dr Judin refused to comment further and only confirmed that checks were being conducted on the whole building.

Acting Chief Registrar of the Federal Court Ahmad Terriruddin Mohd Salleh, who rushed from Putrajaya upon being informed about the incident, also refused to comment.

“We will leave it to the Public Works Department to handle,” he said.

The nightmare for the new court complex began on April 30, just before the official opening on May 3, when two ceiling panels collapsed together with some lights.

Less than a week after that, cracks measuring at least 3m long began appearing outside Magistrate's Court 4. A check by The Star yesterday revealed that the cracks have since been patched up.

On May 7, the air-conditioning in one of the High Courts malfunctioned, while on May 9 the entire complex experienced a blackout, resulting in several cases being postponed.

^^It’s fine if you bring up these issues occasionally, but not for every post that you make. This forum is about skyscrapers for goodness sakes! There’re must be dozens of other internet forums out there where Malaysians can whine and complain till kingdom comes! It is quite nice that this forum is (or at least was) different from those - here it is more informative, easy going and fun.

But some people tend to think that they are doing us a favour of enlightenment by constantly ringing up political issues and ideas, as if we don’t get enough of that everywhere else! It can be sickening at times!

Most forumers are bent on preserving the original idea of this forum, but a few are completely abusing this channel!

Bro, any comment on above news, since you are so professional.

Bro, any comment on above news, since you are so professional.

It doesn't change my stand at all. And it's not my interest to entertain trolls.

Here's a tip for you if by some chance you wish to be professional too. Read carefully, Rule No. 2 of the Asian Skyscraper Forum Rules.

2. No posting intentionally inciteful commentary. Personal attacks, Trolling, Flaming, overt negativity, baiting, etc. This rule is especially applicable to forumers who hijack or troll a thread/local forum, basically just to bash the topic or participants of the thread/local forum. This also applies to forumers who persistently engage in posting news articles with an agenda as identified by the ASF staffers.

source : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/announcement.php?f=164&a=177

It doesn't change my stand at all. And it's not my interest to entertain trolls.

Here's a tip for you if by some chance you wish to be professional too. Read carefully, Rule No. 2 of the Asian Skyscraper Forum Rules.

2. No posting intentionally inciteful commentary. Personal attacks, Trolling, Flaming, overt negativity, baiting, etc. This rule is especially applicable to forumers who hijack or troll a thread/local forum, basically just to bash the topic or participants of the thread/local forum. This also applies to forumers who persistently engage in posting news articles with an agenda as identified by the ASF staffers.

source : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/announcement.php?f=164&a=177


Ic ic...
I suddenly become a Professional after read your tips.
Not bad.

The buildings would really look great with domes like this one

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o245/hijazzains/Melbourne/IMAG0046-1.jpg

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o245/hijazzains/Melbourne/IMAG0110.jpg

Nice lar, great buidling

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Thursday/National/20070524082056/Article/index_html
:ohno:
KUALA LUMPUR: When it rains, it pours.

After episodes of falling ceiling boards, cracks on the wall, malfunctioning air-conditioning system and a power outage, the Jalan Duta court complex was hit with another mishap yesterday.

A burst pipe in the cafeteria at 9am saw the place flooded ankle-deep with water. The cafeteria was closed for about three hours before the leak was plugged, the water drained, the floor mopped up and operations could return to normal.

Security guards tried to stop photographers from taking pictures. Minor scuffles broke out as the guards tried to push reporters and cameramen out of the cafeteria.

In the midst of the commotion, policemen had to step in to defuse the situation between a security guard and a television cameraman and a press photographer.
Senior Public Works Department (PWD) officials and contractors who rushed to the three-week-old RM270 million court complex were red-faced.

After an hour of investigations, the problem was detected: A cap used at a tee-joint was not to specifications.

PWD director-general Datuk Dr Judin Abdul Karim, who was at the scene with his deputy, N. Selvanyagam, confirmed that the problem was the sub-standard cap.

"The leak happened because the cap gave way," Judin said. "The cap used was PVC and this was not according to specifications. The contractor should have used the approved ABS Class 15 cap."

Judin said the cap was replaced and the leak was stopped at 9.40am.

He said there was no damage to the building as the leak was contained early.

He added that the contractor and plumber would be reported to the Construction Industry Development Board for further action.

The 450-capacity cafeteria was almost full when the incident occurred. Lawyers, court officials and visitors made a dash for the exit.

There were also many who stayed, moving to the side of the cafeteria to finish their breakfast while standing and watching the janitors work.



Federal Court acting chief registrar Ahmad Terirudin Mohd Salleh, who also visited the scene, declined to comment on the leak.

He, however, said he would investigate the scuffle between the security guard and media personnel.

Lawyer M. Manoharan said the latest incident was an embarrassment.

He urged the Anti-Corruption Agency to begin investigations.

"This involved taxpayers’ money. The public has the right to know if the construction was carried out according to specifications."

Big onion got,water got..now need the Adabi sup bunjut,potatoes and chicken to make chicken soup.

BPR siasat kontraktor

Oleh Sazarina Shahrim, Lee Shi-Ian dan A Hafiz Yatim


Pelan, spesifikasi Kompleks Mahkamah Kuala Lumpur diperiksa

KUALA LUMPUR: Badan Pencegah Rasuah (BPR) menyiasat kontraktor yang bertanggungjawab membina Kompleks Mahkamah Kuala Lumpur bernilai RM270 juta selepas berlaku beberapa kerosakan, termasuk kebocoran paip di bangunan yang baru dibuka tiga minggu lalu.





Sepasukan pegawai BPR dikatakan dihantar ke pejabat kontraktor terbabit, Johawaki Sdn Bhd, di Shah Alam semalam dan memeriksa pelan serta spesifikasi kompleks mahkamah itu.

Seorang pegawai kanan BPR memberitahu New Straits Times, invois dan resit pembelian bahan binaan kompleks itu juga akan diteliti. Difahamkan, penyiasatan itu tertumpu kepada sama ada berlaku pelanggaran prosedur dan kemungkinan bahan yang digunakan tidak menepati spesifikasi.

BPR turut menghantar sepasukan unik forensik ke kompleks mahkamah berkenaan semalam untuk mengkaji sebarang kerosakan dan masalah lain yang boleh menjejaskan struktur bangunan itu.

Hasil laporan unik forensik itu akan diserahkan kepada pasukan penyiasat kes berkenaan untuk tindakan selanjutnya.

Ketua Pengarah BPR, Datuk Ahmad Said Hamdan, ketika dihubungi berkata beliau sedang menunggu taklimat berhubung isu itu. Difahamkan, Pengarah Urusan Johawaki, Datuk Johari Mat, kini berada di luar negara, manakala timbalannya, Datuk Abdullah Che Mat, gagal dihubungi.

Kelmarin, kafeteria di kompleks mahkamah itu digenangi air sehingga paras buku lali akibat kebocoran paip di bilik penyelenggaraan bersebelahan tandas wanita, manakala satu lagi kebocoran paip dikesan di lokap Mahkamah Sesyen Satu dan Dua di Aras Empat semalam.

Kedua-dua mahkamah itu ditutup sementara kerana dinding dan lantainya basah. Media bagaimanapun tidak dapat memasuki aras berkenaan kerana pengawal keselamatan menutup kawasan itu.

Kebocoran paip itu dikatakan sudah berlaku sejak seminggu lalu sebelum kejadian di kafeteria kompleks berkenaan dilaporkan. Pada hari pertama kompleks itu dibuka 3 Mei lalu, beberapa bahagian dinding di laluan pejalan kaki aras tiga berdekatan Mahkamah Majistret 4 dikesan mengalami rekahan.

Jabatan Kerja Raya (JKR) dalam kenyataannya kelmarin menjelaskan kebocoran itu berpunca daripada penutup sambungan paip pecah dan terpaksa ditukar dengan bahan spesifikasi asal.

Tiga hari sebelum kompleks itu dibuka, tiga siling asbestos di bilik setiausaha Hakim Mahkamah Tinggi Sivil, Datuk Abdul Malik Ishak, runtuh dipercayai berpunca daripada kebocoran saluran perenjis air yang juga sebahagian daripada sistem pencegah kebakaran kompleks berkenaan.

Sementara itu, Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Nazri Abdul Aziz, akan memanggil kontraktor terbabit Isnin ini bagi mendapatkan penjelasan berhubung isu itu.

“Sebagai Menteri yang bertanggungjawab menjaga undang-undang, saya berhak memanggil kontraktor berkenaan untuk mendapatkan penjelasan. Peruntukan diberikan oleh kementerian saya. Ini bangunan saya... saya berhak untuk tahu.

“Saya berasa sungguh kecewa kerana kejadian seumpama ini tidak seharusnya berlaku. Kompleks ini baru saja siap dibina,” katanya kepada pemberita di lobi Parlimen, semalam.

Nazri berkata, kontraktor terbabit juga diarah membaiki segera kerosakan berkenaan kerana bangunan itu masih dalam tempoh jaminan sehingga Februari tahun depan.

Katanya, pentadbiran kompleks mahkamah turut melantik syarikat perunding penyelenggara, Kemuncak Facillity, bagi mendapatkan pandangan pihak ketiga berhubung keselamatan keseluruhan bangunan itu.

“Kita mahu laporan pihak ketiga mengenai keselamatan bangunan ini. Selepas tiga kejadian berlaku di kompleks ini, saya turut bimbang keselamatannya,” katanya sambil menambah, sehingga kini 80 peratus daripada kos pembinaan kompleks berkenaan sudah dibayar.

Good! BPR should do the investigation after the first faulty incident but not now....
BPR siasat kontraktor

Oleh Sazarina Shahrim, Lee Shi-Ian dan A Hafiz Yatim


Pelan, spesifikasi Kompleks Mahkamah Kuala Lumpur diperiksa

KUALA LUMPUR: Badan Pencegah Rasuah (BPR) menyiasat kontraktor yang bertanggungjawab membina Kompleks Mahkamah Kuala Lumpur bernilai RM270 juta selepas berlaku beberapa kerosakan, termasuk kebocoran paip di bangunan yang baru dibuka tiga minggu lalu.





Sepasukan pegawai BPR dikatakan dihantar ke pejabat kontraktor terbabit, Johawaki Sdn Bhd, di Shah Alam semalam dan memeriksa pelan serta spesifikasi kompleks mahkamah itu.

Seorang pegawai kanan BPR memberitahu New Straits Times, invois dan resit pembelian bahan binaan kompleks itu juga akan diteliti. Difahamkan, penyiasatan itu tertumpu kepada sama ada berlaku pelanggaran prosedur dan kemungkinan bahan yang digunakan tidak menepati spesifikasi.

BPR turut menghantar sepasukan unik forensik ke kompleks mahkamah berkenaan semalam untuk mengkaji sebarang kerosakan dan masalah lain yang boleh menjejaskan struktur bangunan itu.

Hasil laporan unik forensik itu akan diserahkan kepada pasukan penyiasat kes berkenaan untuk tindakan selanjutnya.

Ketua Pengarah BPR, Datuk Ahmad Said Hamdan, ketika dihubungi berkata beliau sedang menunggu taklimat berhubung isu itu. Difahamkan, Pengarah Urusan Johawaki, Datuk Johari Mat, kini berada di luar negara, manakala timbalannya, Datuk Abdullah Che Mat, gagal dihubungi.

Kelmarin, kafeteria di kompleks mahkamah itu digenangi air sehingga paras buku lali akibat kebocoran paip di bilik penyelenggaraan bersebelahan tandas wanita, manakala satu lagi kebocoran paip dikesan di lokap Mahkamah Sesyen Satu dan Dua di Aras Empat semalam.

Kedua-dua mahkamah itu ditutup sementara kerana dinding dan lantainya basah. Media bagaimanapun tidak dapat memasuki aras berkenaan kerana pengawal keselamatan menutup kawasan itu.

Kebocoran paip itu dikatakan sudah berlaku sejak seminggu lalu sebelum kejadian di kafeteria kompleks berkenaan dilaporkan. Pada hari pertama kompleks itu dibuka 3 Mei lalu, beberapa bahagian dinding di laluan pejalan kaki aras tiga berdekatan Mahkamah Majistret 4 dikesan mengalami rekahan.

Jabatan Kerja Raya (JKR) dalam kenyataannya kelmarin menjelaskan kebocoran itu berpunca daripada penutup sambungan paip pecah dan terpaksa ditukar dengan bahan spesifikasi asal.

Tiga hari sebelum kompleks itu dibuka, tiga siling asbestos di bilik setiausaha Hakim Mahkamah Tinggi Sivil, Datuk Abdul Malik Ishak, runtuh dipercayai berpunca daripada kebocoran saluran perenjis air yang juga sebahagian daripada sistem pencegah kebakaran kompleks berkenaan.

Sementara itu, Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Nazri Abdul Aziz, akan memanggil kontraktor terbabit Isnin ini bagi mendapatkan penjelasan berhubung isu itu.

“Sebagai Menteri yang bertanggungjawab menjaga undang-undang, saya berhak memanggil kontraktor berkenaan untuk mendapatkan penjelasan. Peruntukan diberikan oleh kementerian saya. Ini bangunan saya... saya berhak untuk tahu.

“Saya berasa sungguh kecewa kerana kejadian seumpama ini tidak seharusnya berlaku. Kompleks ini baru saja siap dibina,” katanya kepada pemberita di lobi Parlimen, semalam.

Nazri berkata, kontraktor terbabit juga diarah membaiki segera kerosakan berkenaan kerana bangunan itu masih dalam tempoh jaminan sehingga Februari tahun depan.

Katanya, pentadbiran kompleks mahkamah turut melantik syarikat perunding penyelenggara, Kemuncak Facillity, bagi mendapatkan pandangan pihak ketiga berhubung keselamatan keseluruhan bangunan itu.

“Kita mahu laporan pihak ketiga mengenai keselamatan bangunan ini. Selepas tiga kejadian berlaku di kompleks ini, saya turut bimbang keselamatannya,” katanya sambil menambah, sehingga kini 80 peratus daripada kos pembinaan kompleks berkenaan sudah dibayar.

Big onion got,water got..now need the Adabi sup bunjut,potatoes and chicken to make chicken soup.

:lol: :lol:

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that is one ugly bawang...and the little domes, they all look like cilicone implants...

why can't we just design our version of 'dome' instead of copying it from moorish architecture? we're not in middle east. :sleepy:

masjid negara is one of good example.but since it represent religious building,so we need to find other identity in our architecture.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/Masjid_Negara.JPG

Big onion got,water got..now need the Adabi sup bunjut,potatoes and chicken to make chicken soup.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Cheers mate

The dome on this model looks much better

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this building look huge, but not nice at all...

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thank God AB Hubbuck did not design Sultan Abdul Samad like this ugly...i wonder if it were located in city centre...sure nobody wanna take turn it as KL's icon...

Lol...the bad architecture and the falling ceiling reflects the quality of our judiciary and justice system.

The building looks OK at night and when at close up, but from far away it looks..:ohno: .

I'd rate the architect who designed it as a class F architect :bash: .I hope in the future,if possible la..they replace the bawang with a simple big geodome or nothing at all.

class F architect?....got ah?:lol:

隆商业高庭天花板倾斜　法官紧急休庭
2007-6-28 0:20:45


■ 吉隆坡商业高庭天花板出现倾斜现象。


（吉隆坡27日讯）吉隆坡商业高庭天花板出现倾斜现象，法官立即发出紧急休庭令，紧急疏散庭内所有人士！

位于吉隆坡法庭五楼的商业高庭于今早11时30分发生天花板倾斜事件，法庭翻译员纳希表示，法官今早在审讯至一半时，突然发现位于律师席上方的天花板出现倾斜现象，并呈弯月型，情况岌岌可危。

纳希说，法官为了避免天花板突然掉下而殃及庭内人士，于是发出紧急休庭命令，紧急将庭内人群疏散，包括所有的律师、公众、前来审讯的人士等。



庭内人群紧急疏散

当时，庭内的人根本不知道发生了什么事，也不清楚法官突然发出紧急休庭令的原因。

较后，法官在所有人都走出庭外后，立即电召公共工程局的人员前来进行检查。

公共工程局的人员到来测量该倾斜的天花板后，发现该倾斜的天花板和平常的天花板差距约有一至二公分，而他们之后也表示会于今天中午3时重返商业高庭展开维修工程。

纳希强调，商业法庭的天花板倾斜事件是今天早上才发生，因为法庭在昨天进行审讯时，天花板依然完好。无论如何，由于法官今天中断审讯，导致今天聆审的案件被逼展延至9月27日和28日继续审讯。

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New Duta Court Complex
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Man...these close up pictures sure make the building look bad....

What's with the cubic rooms at the corners with semi circular windows?

Overhanging top floors? No aesthetics at all...

what's with that "buat kerja" banner?
surely they are getting crazier :ohno:

the building conveys the idea that the justice system is what it is; ugly and bloated mass. Sorry about the negative comment, but this building brings out the nasty in you. Ick. After all the gorgeous Putrajaya designs...who approved this?

hyee, i like this building lah! :D

What's with the cubic rooms at the corners with semi circular windows?

Overhanging top floors? No aesthetics at all...

this building is an insult to the classical order..

this building is an insult to the classical order..

i would rather say this building is an insult to the architects' professionalisme

So where is the world's largest courthouse if this is the 2nd largest?

iran

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If they just build the dome like this...>> OK larr!!
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What were they thinking with the cubic rooms at the corners with semicircular windows, little domes on top and giant columns below????

What were they thinking with the cubic rooms at the corners with semicircular windows, little domes on top and giant columns below????

Many of us are also dumbfounded by this building's design :nuts:

Many of us are also dumbfounded by this building's design :nuts:

The world of design never fails to amaze me. :nuts:

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:ohno: very ugly..so ugly..yes, that's right.

^^y ugly dude???

the design... it would much better w/out that dome. (imo only aa..):cheers:

They are more people talking how ugly it is instead of how big it is.....
so we should rename the thread as "World's Ugliest Courthouse" :lol:

I don't mind the design. The courts still have a fairly 'new' smell to it and the air con is terribly cold. Otherwise it's all good. :)

They are more people talking how ugly it is instead of how big it is.....
so we should rename the thread as "World's Ugliest Courthouse" :lol:

Lets see....

It's completely out of proportion.
Whats with the corner cubes with semicircular windows, huge oversized columns below them with a small dome?

from flickr

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the architecture of this building is retarded...half baked...weird n just plain ugly.

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wat for their put the advertisement there 'buat kerja' like kampung style, really brainless :nuts:

wat for their put the advertisement there 'buat kerja' like kampung style, really brainless :nuts:

Before you call someone brainless, you got to see doctor first, scan your little brain, and making sure u r not one of them. The banner u r talkin is a simple reminder message intended for the court staffs, idiot.

Before you call someone brainless, you got to see doctor first, scan your little brain, and making sure u r not one of them. The banner u r talkin is a simple reminder message intended for the court staffs, idiot.

Jame i think u have a very big brain, ur name also James = Jam mean ur brain is jam, don understand wat happen to u recently, i think u is jobless impact from the economic crisis got something wrong with ur mental, u should see doctor as fast as possible, i suggest u go to private hospital instead of government one before u will get crazy one day, feel sorry for u but i hope u will ok one day :nuts: :lol:

wat for their put the advertisement there 'buat kerja' like kampung style, really brainless :nuts:

R u sure that you are MALAYSIAN just right now....!
"Buat Kerja" maksud di tempat bangunan kerajaan itu ialah "now open" or ready for judging kalau tempat beli belah kat Malaysia ..mereka guna "Kini di buka"! :lol:

R u sure that you are MALAYSIAN just right now....!
"Buat Kerja" maksud di tempat bangunan kerajaan itu ialah "now open" or ready for judging kalau tempat beli belah kat Malaysia ..mereka guna "Kini di buka"! :lol:

i sure know la, i agree with u, but juz now got ppl say the buildings was ugly, i juz giving my own comment nothing else :lol:

i sure know la, i agree with u, but juz now got ppl say the buildings was ugly, i juz giving my own comment nothing else :lol:

What has the banner got to do with LeeighIm and others opinion the building is ugly? For your ill informed brain corrected, courthouse is a public building and everyone is entitled for his own opinion. If this is private blgd, yes you shld keep your nagging mouth shut. Its not your taste, money and shits.


R u sure that you are MALAYSIAN just right now....!
"Buat Kerja" maksud di tempat bangunan kerajaan itu ialah "now open" or ready for judging kalau tempat beli belah kat Malaysia ..mereka guna "Kini di buka"! :lol:

Naz, the banner is reminding them to work. But you help proved this stupid MALAYSIAN isnt malaysian yet, when he got himself agreed with your wrong meaning, or if i guessed, you r just testing him?


Jame i think u have a very big brain, ur name also James = Jam mean ur brain is jam, don understand wat happen to u recently, i think u is jobless impact from the economic crisis got something wrong with ur mental, u should see doctor as fast as possible, i suggest u go to private hospital instead of government one before u will get crazy one day, feel sorry for u but i hope u will ok one day :nuts: :lol:

See, you cant even see how forum works by your experience. If you want to attack me with merit, put some points and wits. I ll challenge you back with the same manner. Your immatured post means i cannot challenge you fairly because you hv shown your lamebrained state to engage counter-respond effectively. Most ll ignore you over time, leave you in current state until we r certain you have quit rolling your toys and being spoonfed.

Have u got report from doctor? Seem u still not yet see a doctor:nuts::lol::ohno:

R u sure that you are MALAYSIAN just right now....!
"Buat Kerja" maksud di tempat bangunan kerajaan itu ialah "now open" or ready for judging kalau tempat beli belah kat Malaysia ..mereka guna "Kini di buka"! :lol:
I thought it was a way of saying:

a) work hard
b) we are working

In the Malaysian mind, government employees are usually well paid and not working hard enough ...

so the sign literally could mean "do (your) work"

Cheers, m

i wish they stop putting "house roof" on top of tall buildings.

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...look like an ugly 'monster' building doing face like this -> :lol:
nak telan penjahat.

overall structure macam penjara je.

I thought it was a way of saying:

a) work hard
b) we are working

In the Malaysian mind, government employees are usually well paid and not working hard enough ...

so the sign literally could mean "do (your) work"

Cheers, m

gov employee are well paid???

its a joke right

gov employee are well paid???

its a joke right


That's rite Bedah. Gov is the best employer compared to the private sector. Can't remember but I saw one report regarding this in magazine last year.

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I don't understand. Why would Malaysia, a relatively small country with small population, need to have the 2nd largest courthouse in the world? Are Malaysians really that deviant that they always break the law? lol

Beautiful building, btw. I love its architecture. Cartainly one of the nicest i've seen of its kind in Asia.

^^

You don't understand: it's all for show. Have you heard of the short man's syndrome? Anyway, this behemoth is also built to show how "powerful" our judicial system is. Yes, it is powerful, but by no means independent. Corruption is rife in the government but very few make it to this large courthouse. Perhaps the ones that make it here include trumped-up cases against opposition leaders. Furthermore, the Malaysian police hasn't been very successful in reducing the number of crimes in our cities, as they are more interested in suppressing peaceful demonstrators. So again, this huge building could have been better utilised.

The huge dome is probably constructed to show how "Arabic", "religious" and "pious" this country is. The acts of the government prove otherwise: enough said.

One thing you can also tell from this courthouse is that it is completely inaccessible to the poorer folks. Without their own cars, they have to walk a long way up before getting to the courthouse from the main road. In a hot tropical country like Malaysia, this is simply torture, especially for the old and invalid. In other words, this courthouse is merely built for the rich, and not a people-court.

Architecturally, many Malaysians dislike it, but I guess this is also compounded by the negativities that it represents.

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I wonder how cars can park illegally on the road leading up to the courthouse. Is the law ever respected even in this institution?

^^

You don't understand: it's all for show. Have you heard of the short man's syndrome? Anyway, this behemoth is also built to show how "powerful" our judicial system is. Yes, it is powerful, but by no means independent. Corruption is rife in the government but very few make it to this large courthouse. Perhaps the ones that make it here include trumped-up cases against opposition leaders. Furthermore, the Malaysian police hasn't been very successful in reducing the number of crimes in our cities, as they are more interested in suppressing peaceful demonstrators. So again, this huge building could have been better utilised.

The huge dome is probably constructed to show how "Arabic", "religious" and "pious" this country is. The acts of the government prove otherwise: enough said.

One thing you can also tell from this courthouse is that it is completely inaccessible to the poorer folks. Without their own cars, they have to walk a long way up before getting to the courthouse from the main road. In a hot tropical country like Malaysia, this is simply torture, especially for the old and invalid. In other words, this courthouse is merely built for the rich, and not a people-court.

Architecturally, many Malaysians dislike it, but I guess this is also compounded by the negativities that it represents.


i think the dome in this case does not represent islam coz that is not syariah court house.islamic symbol is star and crescent or Rub El Hizb shape.domes are used in many countries coz it is the strongest shape in architecture.singapore court house also hv dome..Saint Basil's Cathedral in moscow is famous for it onion domes.some old churches has onion domes with a cross on top.our ugly court house domes are actually represent monarchy...a symbol of malay supremacy.not islam.

I wonder how cars can park illegally on the road leading up to the courthouse. Is the law ever respected even in this institution?

no yellow lane lah??

ni pasti tidur masA kursus AMIK lesen kereta dulu:lol::lol:..

ohh if you still think that its again the law, but i do know that demonstration is against the law..
so in your logic even if both are illegal but favoritism kicked in as , car parked at road side=cannot, demonstration=can

^^

Furthermore, the Malaysian police hasn't been very successful in reducing the number of crimes in our cities, as they are more interested in suppressing peaceful demonstrators. So again, this huge building could have been better utilised.

have you ever been to the court vince and see how busy they are, i had, and it only a small court in pandan indah, in one camber for 2 hours they had convicted no less than 15 people to jail.. and the court open 8 hr a day,5times a week + other chambers+other court, then you will see the need for bigger court

and kudus to the police,even when some say they don't buat kerja, yet they managed to catch lots of criminals

^^

One thing you can also tell from this courthouse is that it is completely inaccessible to the poorer folks. Without their own cars, they have to walk a long way up before getting to the courthouse from the main road. In a hot tropical country like Malaysia, this is simply torture, especially for the old and invalid. In other words, this courthouse is merely built for the rich, and not a people-court.

Architecturally, many Malaysians dislike it, but I guess this is also compounded by the negativities that it represents.

Other buildings like Angkasapuri Building has the same problem like this. Although it is close to the Komuter station but the commuter have to walk a distance up the hill.

no yellow lane lah??

ni pasti tidur masA kursus AMIK lesen kereta dulu:lol::lol:..

ohh if you still think that its again the law, but i do know that demonstration is against the law..
so in your logic even if both are illegal but favoritism kicked in as , car parked at road side=cannot, demonstration=can



have you ever been to the court vince and see how busy they are, i had, and it only a small court in pandan indah, in one camber for 2 hours they had convicted no less than 15 people to jail.. and the court open 8 hr a day,5times a week + other chambers+other court, then you will see the need for bigger court
:)
and kudus to the police,even when some say they don't buat kerja, yet they managed to catch lots of criminals

So I guess we can park our cars on the white lines then right? Next time you can park your car on the white line of the North-South Highway, really, it's OK!

Who said demonstration is against the law? UMNO? You? How come there are so many demonstrations these days in front of courts and those demonstrators are not in jail? Double standards eh?

Oh of course it is busy, but what kinds of cases do they represent? Sodomy cases? Use of the word Allah in catholic publications? I never said noone use it, I just said it is hard for the poorer folks to get there. By the way, this Pandan Indah court is not the same as this humongous monstrosity. Why would u even bring it up? I see no relevance there. Next time if you want to counter what I say, please use relevant examples.

aduhai budak kecik pon boleh buat conection

1 malaysian suker break undang2

2 ader melambak lagi kes yg bukan diatas tuu yg org buat,pegi ler tgk sendiri

3 biler kes byk, court tak cukup, aper kiter buat murid2?

kiter buat court house yg besarler,

dan mmg demonstartion salah bawah sedection code? bkn umno yg cakap

org ramai yg takder kete boleh naik rapid pegi court, pastu naik black maria pegi penjara

i dun really like the design of the courthouse but my sister's in-law family from australia really like it.

I wonder how cars can park illegally on the road leading up to the courthouse. Is the law ever respected even in this institution?

That is obviously illegal despite there is a white road edge marking.



no yellow lane lah??

ni pasti tidur masA kursus AMIK lesen kereta dulu:lol::lol:..



how bout those can read but cannot interpret correctly? most ppl dont seem aware that the white line is to tell them that the parked car must never cross over the line and encroached into the traffic lane. you r only permissible to park if there is enuf width from the line to the roadkerb. Same goes to roadside hawker stall. the yellow line however imposed a prohibited parking rule thats apply on both side of the line. this is why you dont see yellow line on highway because they require an emergency space beyond the lane.

the architecture...

no... not again middle east style.
the architecture style is for arabians, not malay, nor any other races in malaysia, thus never a malaysian architecture.

malaysia is for malaysians, not arabians, persians, moors...

the architecture...

no... not again middle east style.
the architecture style is for arabians, not malay, nor any other races in malaysia, thus never a malaysian architecture.

malaysia is for malaysians, not arabians, persians, moors...

^^ can you show me example of malaysian architecture?

i think the petronas twin towers is a good example of malaysia(islamic) architecture?..no?

^^ can you show me example of malaysian architecture?

in design, we must do it based on design philosophy. but i can't get the philosophy of this building. no wonder it fails to admire many peoples....

i think the petronas twin towers is a good example of malaysia(islamic) architecture?..no?

yes,but some consider it as pagoda-ish,which is very true.only from top its looks like Rub El Hizb shape,a symbol of islam.PTT also resemble hindu temple from different point of view.PTT is very malaysian yet have ultra modern design.one of a kind.

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/hindutemple.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/ShriSwaminarayanMandir-HinduTemple-.jpg

domes are used by many around the world for its strongest shape structure in architecture.so its not necessarily means that its belong to the arabs.

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/NYCBrooklynWilliamsburg.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/OniondomesPhiladelphia.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/OrnateOnionDomesontopofaRussianChur.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/StPaulCathedralDome.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/achurchinbrooklyn.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/hindutemple1-1.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/ShriSwaminarayanMandir-HinduTemple-.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/CapitolDome.jpg

...and there are mosques that dont hv domes..

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/GreatmosqueXianChina.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/HasanIImosquewithpidgeonsCasablanca.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/Lyalya-tulipmosqueUfaBashkoristanRu.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/OldmosqueinBobo-Dioulasso.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/Tongxingreatmosque.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/byong_sun/themosqueatBani.jpg

dome was invented by the Rome....

why don't try to make crossovers between architectural elements of modern, malay, chinese, indian, sarawakian and sabahan aborigines?

this is very hard to do, maybe impossible...

why don't try to make crossovers between architectural elements of modern, malay, chinese, indian, sarawakian and sabahan aborigines?

this is very hard to do, maybe impossible...

not impossible..PTT is one good example.but,u need ppl with good brain to sit on the right seats to accomplish that ;)

i cant find any good book that focus on malaysian architecture. if any, i doubted on the accuracies. pics of malay architecture does not fit the theme malaysian architecture.

petronas towers is purely based on islamic symbol.

it doesnt mean malaysian architecture must be a mixture of common major races. it has got to be something tht looks distinguishable and identical to only us.