View Full Version : #TOPPED OUT: 23 MARINA, 89F Res, 395m
dubaiflo January 6th, 2006, 07:41 PM the marina pinnacle has underground parking floors.
and, once again, there is no need for a huge hole usually.
also the piling various, can be 10m to 80m...
yepp this is really fast ,agree dennis.
malec January 8th, 2006, 02:02 PM great to see this speed. Now how about the same for the others
Dubai-Lover January 13th, 2006, 06:38 PM today
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GoDubai! January 13th, 2006, 10:52 PM I hear what you're saying Dubaiflo, but if the pit doesn't get any deeper than this, I'm afraid this tall tower is going topple over.
AltinD January 22nd, 2006, 03:15 PM 21/01/2006
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Face81 January 23rd, 2006, 09:28 AM News on the start of this one:
CONSTRUCTION CORRECTION
20 Jan 2006
Bids are due to be submitted on 31 January and not by mid-February, as reported in MEED 13:1:06 for the main construction package on the 23 Marina tower project in Dubai Marina. The prospective bidders are: the local/German Al-Rostamani Pegel; a joint venture (JV) of the local ETA Ascon and the local/Belgian Bel Hasa Six Construct; Saudi Arabia-based El-Seif Engineering Contracting Company; a JV of South Korea’s Ssangyong Engineering & Construction Company and the local Dubai Civil Engineering; and the local/Austrian Strabag Dubai. Oger Dubai, the local affiliate of Saudi Oger, is not participating.
Dubai-Lover February 10th, 2006, 08:16 PM today
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dubaiflo February 10th, 2006, 08:36 PM ready for piling :dj:
now this one has the speed i expect everywhere!
scorpion February 11th, 2006, 12:39 AM cleared for takeoff!! :D
Dubai-Lover February 23rd, 2006, 02:36 AM i have some good news
new height is 395m :D
keo has updated its website just recently
dubaiflo February 23rd, 2006, 02:43 AM worst news ever..i wanted a 400m tower for the marina.. :D
no this is great actually. thanks.
we will have to wait for princess now...
TowerPower February 23rd, 2006, 07:04 AM Only 89 floors! C'mon, why'd they take one off! I'll take the extra 15 meters though.:)
Krazy February 28th, 2006, 03:30 PM Dennis, I visited ETA Star at the property week and they gave me a brochure for 23 Marina.... and in that it's mentioned that this one is gonna be 380 meters. Now which source is more reliable?
dubaiflo February 28th, 2006, 03:58 PM mhm i think the KEO height should be more accurate.
this brochure could be quite old. and the old height was 380m.
Stephan23 February 28th, 2006, 04:01 PM Hope so, think 395 is much better!!!
Stephan23 March 11th, 2006, 03:03 AM Ohohoh. I think this is the 88 storey Keo Tower. :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
Naz UK March 11th, 2006, 02:26 PM What sorta developer decides to go from 380 to 395m??? Thats crazy! If you're gona increase the goddamn height....dont stop just 5m short of 400m you idiots! Go the whole way! ARrrrrrrrrgghhhhh. Ok i'm calm now.
Stephan23 March 14th, 2006, 08:51 PM How far is piling???
ARMANI March 28th, 2006, 01:55 AM I dont know if this has been posted before. I'll post it anyway.
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ARMANI March 28th, 2006, 01:56 AM I dont know if this has been posted before. I'll post it anyway. :)
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Dubai_Steve March 28th, 2006, 02:53 AM Can someone explain why all the tall towers will be at this end of the marina since it may not be the best location as it is the furtherst point from the new central Marina Mall and also not currently possible to get to JBR by foot.
Currently it seems that there are not going to be many facilities at this end of the marina without having to drive across the bridge or walk 15 mintes to the central marina. So why are all the best towers appearing here in your opinion?
Krazy March 28th, 2006, 04:48 AM ^^ to provide maximum views of Palm Jumeirah... im pretty sure emaar has something in mind for this side of marina as well...
SA BOY March 28th, 2006, 08:04 AM that last image is way off in scale. the small towers are 200m so that makes this like 600m
Naz UK March 28th, 2006, 10:53 AM LOL exactly! This looks like Burj Al-23Marina!
Naz UK March 28th, 2006, 10:55 AM The same can be said about the other end of the Marina, Steve. OK they might have some access to JBR, but the far left side of the Marina is full of crappy (sorry guys but its true) cheap looking towers, mostly low-rise and mono-dimensional in look, e.g. most of Emaar's own towers.
Dubai_Steve March 28th, 2006, 11:39 AM By the way, any dea if they will make that bridge a foot bridge also. Seems kind of cruel to see Grosvenor so near but not be able to access it on foot. What will parking be like if you have to drive that very short distance there?
dubaiflo March 28th, 2006, 04:38 PM ^^ you can walk over the bridge, there is a bit of a construction mess now of course but it is easily possible.
so you can access GV and the JBR mall easily.
also i am still not convinced if this bridge will remain...
i think there is going to be a bigger one.
anyway... that image is totally out of scale :rofl:
i expect another mall in this area of dubai marina.
ARMANI March 28th, 2006, 05:11 PM anyway... that image is totally out of scale :rofl:
And what is so funny about that young gentleman.
Krazy March 28th, 2006, 05:23 PM YOUNG GENTLEMAN? :hilarious
thedubailife March 28th, 2006, 06:27 PM Flo Definatley Young not sure about the gentlemen bit :D
Dubai_Steve March 28th, 2006, 06:31 PM Flo has a habit of luring young women into cinemas, did you see Syriana yet?
By the way it seems we need a photographer - not many updates these days that is why we are all chatting nonsense. Would volunteer myself if I lived there. Hopefully one day soon.
AltinD, when can you do a pass of the main Marina project for the next update?
We all miss DubaiLover's marina photo updates!
dubaiflo March 28th, 2006, 07:54 PM thanks, thanks.
oh i thought artists who are too stupid to draw a proper sized tower shouldn't work on official renders, so it was quite funny , yes :D
guys, i can be the definition of a gentlemen, it all depends on the people i deal with, and you lot definetly do NOT deserve it :D:D
anyway.. dubai steve if i can get my laptop to work in dubai i will post updates as soon as possible.
oh and no i did not see syriana yet but i managed to find a girl who is going to watch ice age 2 with me lol.
edit. sorry i read that whole bit again and it is just hilarious.
i love you all :D
Naz UK March 28th, 2006, 11:19 PM Ice Age 2? LOL!! I watched that with a girl too! My little 2 year old daughter! She loved it!
dubaiflo March 28th, 2006, 11:43 PM never insult ice age in front of me.
you won't be invited to our house warming :D
Krazy March 28th, 2006, 11:45 PM *following Dubai-Lover's instructions*
ENOUGH CHATTING! BACK TO THE MAIN TOPIC NOW!
dubaiflo March 28th, 2006, 11:51 PM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=7798587&postcount=279
^^ yeah , some people just have to post this kind of bantering everywhere. i say
chatting and other nonsense ==> sky majlis please
Krazy March 28th, 2006, 11:53 PM lol... yea that's why i said ENOUGH chatting... as in NO MORE STARTING FROM NOW
ARMANI March 30th, 2006, 02:57 AM I dont know what people find so funny about me calling dubaiflo an young gentleman.
ARMANI March 30th, 2006, 03:11 AM thanks, thanks.
oh i thought artists who are too stupid to draw a proper sized tower shouldn't work on official renders, so it was quite funny , yes :D
I had actully got the render from the architects official website, i dont see whats wrong with the render.
DUBAI March 30th, 2006, 04:20 AM ^^Its a tad on the tall side compared to reality!
dubaiflo March 30th, 2006, 04:13 PM yepp, and the funny thing is the developer paid someone to draw such a render :lol:
btw why is that guy already banned.. :weird:
Krazy March 30th, 2006, 04:19 PM ^^ He was a previously several times banned troll
scorpion March 31st, 2006, 12:30 AM ARMANI... :goodbye: :banned:
malec March 31st, 2006, 01:09 AM Was he Raza / kong / some other names I can't think of?
dubaiflo April 16th, 2006, 09:26 PM http://i3.tinypic.com/vo7jwp.jpg
excavation seems to be completed.
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Tom_Green April 22nd, 2006, 10:27 PM I can`t hold it any longer. I must say it.
This tower is incredible ugly. I hate the design. I hate it even more than The Maze tower or the big ben copy. This tower shouldn`t be so tall and the tower shouldn`t be build in the Marina or in Dubai or at all. I want a different design. Najd or Princess are not spectacular but they look nice. Why can`t they do the same with this tower?
THIS TOWER IS UGLY!!!
dubaiflo April 22nd, 2006, 10:31 PM :rofl: :rofl:
very emotional tom green. really. i almost started to cry.
nevertheless i do think this one will turn out great in the end. white and blue, unusual shape.. why not.
thedubailife April 22nd, 2006, 11:01 PM Tom it's always good to let it out, bet you feel miles better now that you have let it all out.
But like flo said it might not turn out too bad as some renders have been worse then the actual towers.....
mission April 23rd, 2006, 08:29 AM Hi All
I cant hold it in any longer. I have to say it.
I am a cross dresser!!!!
I feel alot better now!
:jk: :eek2:
Tom_Green April 23rd, 2006, 06:29 PM Hi All
I cant hold it in any longer. I have to say it.
I am a cross dresser!!!!
I feel alot better now!
:naughty:
Good for you :okay:
Back to the tower.
This pic say:
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"I am ugly, please hate me"
or
"My 4 year old son draw a tower and i like it so it will be build."
or
"I mixed the 100 most ugly towers together and this is the result"
or
"I wanted to build a model spaceship but i failed. But i don`t want the time i spent making it be wasted so i decided that my spaceship model will be a skyscraper."
or
"I wanted to test the limit of bad skyscraper architecture"
or
"I hate my company so i made this render"
Dubai_Steve April 23rd, 2006, 06:57 PM I think I agree with you Tom - lack of imagination here for such a great opportunity. Looks like something made out of a mechano set.
dubaiflo April 23rd, 2006, 07:02 PM i think it looks quite ok. better than the new/old emirates crown for example.
malec April 26th, 2006, 08:51 PM Don't think it's that bad. Looks like lego or something here but will surely look better when finished:
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farnush April 26th, 2006, 09:10 PM this is way better ... this will be abeauty when buiilt...
Citystyle April 26th, 2006, 10:18 PM I love this beast.
Im losing faith with these marina super talls i want core action.
minime May 1st, 2006, 03:08 PM 89F Res, 395m? Stunning! If there are any units left for sale or resale, contact me via private message please.
Seabee May 8th, 2006, 12:26 PM From the double page ad in today's Gulf News:
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AltinD May 8th, 2006, 06:24 PM 07/05/2006
... nothing new from the east front ...
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dubaiflo May 8th, 2006, 07:14 PM http://p.vtourist.com/2783680-Travel_Picture-United_Arab_Emirates.jpg
this render is soo :hilarious
now hurry up, they should start with piling now. :bash:
Stephan23 May 8th, 2006, 09:03 PM Shame on you 23 Marina
AltinD May 28th, 2006, 11:59 PM No news here, still the same old hole in the ground.
Stephan23 May 29th, 2006, 12:25 AM Shit!!!!!!! :(:(:(
Naz UK May 29th, 2006, 12:37 AM Please Stephan, do not be upset. We cannot bear to see you like this. One day, one day soon they will start building here..and then it will rise fast. :D
minime May 29th, 2006, 11:13 AM not sure about the base design of this tower. On the renders it is rather obstructed by trees and on the model it is entirely differrent. In both cases, I am not very thrilled. I think the design of the base is important as it defines the general atmosphere on street level... I tried looking for more renders but could not find any more info. Anyone? Maybe some official input from one of the architects? (most of them should be reading SSC anyway as this is the place to be for skyscrapers)
Stephan23 May 29th, 2006, 11:53 AM Please Stephan, do not be upset. We cannot bear to see you like this. One day, one day soon they will start building here..and then it will rise fast. :D
Then I will :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Citystyle May 29th, 2006, 03:11 PM Shame the tower will only be 17 floors. :P
worldsignia July 25th, 2006, 02:34 AM citystyle: pardon? 17 floors? are we talking about the same tower?
Naz UK July 25th, 2006, 11:51 AM ^^ clearly not!
Krazy July 28th, 2006, 03:19 PM Today by Imre
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dubaiflo July 28th, 2006, 04:09 PM FINALLY!
some machinery on the site, now , start piling...
anyone know of load testing has been completed already?
Bender July 29th, 2006, 11:09 AM Unbelievable. Is summer the pilling season or what?
Citystyle July 31st, 2006, 09:40 PM Finally somthing. could be 89 floors afterall.
THE DUBAI GUYS August 4th, 2006, 04:39 PM DCE picked for 23 Marina
CONSTRUCTION UAE
4 Aug 2006
The local Dubai Civil Engineering (DCE) has been selected for the AED 485 million ($132 million) main construction contract on the 23 Marina tower project in Dubai Marina. The three-year contract calls for the construction of a 380-metre, 88-storey tower (MEED 10:3:06).
The client had originally selected the local/Australian Nasa Multiplex in May 2005 to carry out the main contract and provide construction management services. However, the client altered its strategy in the belief that it could get more competitive bids.
India’s Hafeez Contractor is the architect; the consultant is the local office of KEO International Consultants. The client is Hircon International, a JV of the local ETA Star and India’s A Hiranandani.
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Stephan23 August 4th, 2006, 07:57 PM 88 floors and 380 meters
Old!!!!!!
Stephan23 August 18th, 2006, 12:15 PM 18.08.2006 By Imre
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TowerPower August 18th, 2006, 10:35 PM It's nice to see all this new equipment on the tallest block. Time to get to work already.
Stephan23 September 15th, 2006, 03:35 PM 15.09.2006 by Imre
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THE DUBAI GUYS September 29th, 2006, 09:15 PM DCE strikes 23 Marina deal
Dubai-based Hircon International has awarded a Dh500 million construction contract to Dubai Civil Engineering (DCE) for the emirate’s 90-storey 23 Marina project, a person familiar with the matter said.
Hircon, a joint venture between Dubai-based ETA Star Property Developer and Indian business group Hiranandani Construction, will formally announce the contract next week.
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Press Release
Construction begins for Hircon International’s 23 Marina, the 90 storey marvel coming up at Dubai Marina
Dubai Civil Engineering awarded the over half billion dirham contract for construction of the project
October 3, 2006
Hircon International LLC, a joint venture between the leading Hiranandani group and ETA Star properties, have announced the commencement of construction work on 23 Marina, the 90 storey marvel at Dubai Marina, at a press conference held today (Tuesday, October 3, 2006) at Dubai’s Kempinski Hotel in Mall of the Emirates. Upon completion, 23 Marina will be one of the world’s tallest residential buildings.
Hircon International has awarded a contract of over half a billion dirhams to Dubai Civil Engineering (DCE) to build the iconic 90 storey tower that will offer residents a choice of superior quality two and three bedroom apartment and four bedroom duplexes deigned for an elite and luxurious lifestyle.
Abid A Junaid, Executive Director, ETA Star said: “The 23 Marina is Hircon International LLC’s grand contribution to Dubai’s vision of positioning itself as the world’s top cosmopolis acclaimed for its innovative facilities, ambitious developments and exclusive living. ETA Star is committed to ensuring the 23 Marina is built to top-quality standards, providing customers with a high value investment and an enviable residential address.”
Designed to pamper its occupants to the utmost, the landmark residential tower features three levels of spas, fitness centres, indoor and outdoor temperature-controlled swimming pools, lavish decks and optional house automation. A stunning façade, sleek finish and amenities that cater to a host of needs add considerably to the 23 Marina’s appeal.
Darshan Hiranandani, Director, Hircon International LLC said: “I foresee Dubai being the Monte Carlo of the world in a few years and our development has been designed to cater to that kind of clientele. 23 Marina will set new benchmarks in the concept of luxurious living. The concept of each duplex apartment with a private plunge pool with Jacuzzi and an internal elevator in the last 24 floors is first of its kind in Dubai. Once complete, it will stand high above the increasingly sophisticated landmarks gracing Dubai’s skyline today, adding considerably to the prestige and reputation of the Middle East’s fastest-growing city.”
Paul DeVylder, Regional Director, KEO International said, “23 Marina is a truly unique property. At 90 floors it stands among a handful of visionary structures in the world. But unlike most super tall towers that are multi-use and try to be many things within a single tube, Hircon has focused on a single residential neighborhood within the structure, capitalizing on the diversity of surrounding retail, office and hospitality available in the Dubai Marina community. This approach provides the residents with an exclusive residential address, totally private, and enhanced by the luxuries afforded through Hircon’s vision. As Dubai completes its hundreds of towers and projects in the coming years, and the dust starts to settle, 23 Marina will be one of the few classics…one of the few most sought after addresses in Dubai. ”
Nashat F. Sahawneh, Chairman, Dubai Civil Engineering (DCE) said: “We are proud and honoured at being awarded the contract to build a project of the scale and stature of 23 Marina. The piling works are nearing completion, which marks the commencement of the main structure and we are confident that our technical expertise and long experience will ensure the scheduled completion and timely delivery of the project to Hircon’s customers.”
Dubai Civil Engineering is a part of the Al Hamad Contracting Company, which is one of the leading companies engaged in the construction of residential and commercial buildings in Dubai, the Northern Emirates, Kingdom of Bahrain and Kingdom of Jordan.
The enabling (substructure) works was awarded to Swissboring Overseas Piling Corporation Ltd. who have ensured that the piling works have neared completion. Hafeez Contractor’s from Mumbai, India, were the concept architects for the project, while KEO International Consultants are the lead consultants, under the guidance of Paul De Vylder, Regional Director, who has taken the project further ahead to realize the above dream.
M/s Kulkarni Quantity Surveyors who have been associated with several landmark projects in the UAE, have been chosen to carry out the post-contract Cost Consultancy and Cost Management Services for the project. Their expertise in value engineering and success in achieving target costs on other projects were the key factors in their selection.
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About Hircon International LLC
Hircon International is the joint venture company between ETA Star Property Developers and India’s leading business group, Hiranandani Constructions, to develop the exclusive 23 Marina residential tower in Dubai Marina. 23 Marina is a 90-storey-high housing complex offering two and three bedroom apartments and duplexes, three levels of spas, fitness centres, indoor and outdoor temperature-controlled swimming pools and lavish decks.
About Hiranandanai Group
Hiranandani is a leading name in the Indian construction industry reputed for its opulent and unique residential townships in the country’s commercial capital, Mumbai, that have brought the concept of luxurious, global living to India. The group’s diverse interests span the hotels, hospitals, schools, entertainment and retail sectors. The Hiranandani group has successfully completed over a 100 million sq ft of development and has 10000 acres of ongoing developments.
About ETA Star Property Developers LLC
ETA Star Property Developers LLC is the property development arm of the ETA-Ascon Group. The company’s prime objective is to harness the growing commercial opportunity in Dubai's freehold market.
Developments over 5 million square feet of built-up area are already underway and many more are planned over the coming months. ETA Star’s portfolio currently includes prestigious commercial and residential properties such as 23 Marina, Liberty House, Goldcrest Executive, Goldcrest Views - 2, The Belvedere and The Palladium. In addition, ETA Star has launched a new division-ETA Star Hospitality which is involved in developing commercial and hospitality projects at the DMC complex, Palm Jumeirah Crescent, Port Saeed, Salahuddin Road and other prime locations in the U.A.E. ETA star is also developing major residential & info-tech parks in India & Sri Lanka.
Imre October 3rd, 2006, 02:15 PM 23 Marina
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Stephan23 October 3rd, 2006, 08:46 PM :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master:
Finally it starts!!!! :okay:
Thx for the great info Imre!!
Can't wait to the friday update!
dubaiflo October 3rd, 2006, 09:24 PM machinery was moved to the site remember?
looking at the rendering again, i feel this one is going to turn out awesome with the blue facade.
Krazy October 3rd, 2006, 10:44 PM no doubt this tower is gonna be awesome.. the white n blue shud be stunning
ZZ-II October 3rd, 2006, 11:52 PM yeah, the color is perfect
Krazy October 4th, 2006, 12:17 AM He added: "The piling works are nearing completion, which marks the commencement of the main structure and we are confident that our technical expertise and long experience will ensure we will meet the schedule."
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Stephan23 October 4th, 2006, 12:29 PM ^^:okay: :okay: :okay: :okay: :okay:
Krazy October 5th, 2006, 03:58 AM Get yourself a room with a view like no other
Indian property developer I Hiranandani hit the head lines this week when con struction began on 23 Marina, its 90-storey residential tower in Dubai Marina.
This will be built by Hircon International, a joint venture between India-based Hiranandani Construction and UAE-based ETA Star Property Developers.
“Real estate is a very local business and it is currently the most regulated business in the world,” said Hircon International director Darshan Hiranandani.
“Typically you do not venture out alone, but create a stronghold in your own region. Therefore, we have tied up with ETA and our partnership is truly complementary.” ETA Star is currently developing more than four million square feet of real estate, including projects in Jumeirah Lake Towers, Dubai International Finance Centre and Business Bay.
Hiranandani says it is looking for further projects in Dubai and is likely to reveal its plans in the next six months. PRICE FLUCTUATIONS Hiranandani played down fears of a price slump in the Dubai property market.
“With 23 Marina we are not competing with The Palm or The World, but at the niche below. We feel this is an untapped market.
“We think supply continues to be much less than demand for residential and retail space. If prices are falling, then please tell me where and I will buy,” he said.
Hiranandani predicted migrant labourers will continue to relocate to Dubai to work in the construction industry, despite rising living costs in the emirate.
Hiranandani said it was difficult to compare profit margins in India and Dubai.
“Our projects in Mumbai have done very well and we see good potential in Dubai.
“Our residential communities in India are very different from 23 Marina. In India we go wide, but in Dubai we go tall and that is what differentiates the property trends of the two regions. In India, we build a complete community, including everything from roads to schools, sanitation, open spaces, gardens, malls and hospitals because that is what the country lacks.
“People are surprised in India when we build a 100foot-wide road.
“In the first couple of years our margins are zero, but in years six and seven they can be 1,000 per cent.” The Marina tower will be one of the highest residential buildings in the world.
“Records are not important. People will not live there because it’s the highest building, but because of its quality,” said Hiranandani.
Dubai Civil Engineering beat off bids from four other companies to win the Dh500 million construction contract.
Fixed materials costs have been agreed to prevent the contract running over budget. RUSH OF INTEREST Almost two thirds of the tower’s 280 apartments have been sold, with 40 per cent bought by Dubai residents and the rest taken by buyers from Western Europe, Russia, India, Pakistan and the Far East.
Hiranandani says he is unsure how many of these properties were sold to endusers compared to investors, although he said clients have not bought multiple units.
The sale value of the development is approximately Dh900 million.
Unlike, most ‘super’ skyscrapers, which are mixed use, 23 Marina will be residential to capitalise on the diversity of neighbouring retail, office and leisure facilities. The tower will feature two, three and four bedroom apartments plus three spas, fitness centres and indoor and outdoor temperature-controlled swimming pools.
Hiranandani admitted there were a number of concerns about increasing traffic congestion in Dubai Marina as its infrastructure struggles to cope with the rising traffic demands created by ongoing high-rise developments.
However, he said the Marina’s road-widening programme has largely cured these problems.
He said the biggest difficulties involved in building megaprojects like 23 Marina were logistical, such as transporting materials and labour to the construction site.
Hiranandani said Hircon’s Indian developments were aimed at the country’s emerging middle class, although subsequent price rises following completion often push this sector out of the market.
The company’s Indian busi ness has an annual turnover of $500 million (Dh1.84 biilion).
He also said it was unlikely his company would move into mall management.
“This is a specialised business and not something we will get involved with right now.” The company has built a series of vast developments in India, and Mumbai in particular. These include the Hiranandani Gardens township, which is a mini city.
In India, Hiranandani has diversified into education, healthcare, hospitality, ITenabled services, entertainment and retail.
The company is set to start new projects in Chennai, Pune and Bangalore. Non-resident Indians buy around five per cent of its Indian properties.
Hiranandani said he preferred low-rise commercial projects because they made people movement easier.
At 23 Marina, the architects have paid particular attention to people flow to ensure users to wait no more than 40 seconds for a lift.
Stephan23 October 6th, 2006, 12:54 PM 06.10.2006 By Imre
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Stephan23 October 27th, 2006, 12:12 PM 27.10.2006 By Imre
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GoDubai! October 27th, 2006, 02:56 PM It's interesting to see so many tallest block towers at pretty much the same state of construction--the MAG 218, the Torch, Princess, and this one. Meanwhile Marina Pinnacle is starting to race along and Ocean Heights remains in limbo. Also, Marina Garden? May suffer the same fate as the Najd.
dubaiflo October 27th, 2006, 05:25 PM ^^ Marina Gardens was Marina 101, so indeed suffered the same fat as Najd.
anyway, all these towers will rise at the same time, just like the first bunch of 200m + towers :)
Imre November 4th, 2006, 08:12 PM from ETA Star
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Piling Works in pgoress
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soo lonely.. so lonely.. dumdum..
dubaiflo November 5th, 2006, 02:01 PM Sunday, 5 November 2006
58m piling paves the way for tallest resi tower in the world
by Christopher Sell
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Around 182 piles of varying diameters, from 1,500mm to 1,200mm and 900mm will be utilised on the site. The project manager says that the most powerful piling rig in the UAE is being used for the groundworks.
Dubai’s coastline may feature an abundance of high-rise developments all jockeying for pole-position on the city’s skyline, but within the space of a few months, it is now going to get two towers both vying for the accolade of the world’s tallest residential tower.
Currently occupied by the 323m tall Q1 Tower on Australia’s Gold Coast, the emirate was supposed to be inheriting the title sometime in 2009 following completion of the Princess Tower. Standing at 107 stories and 414m tall, the US $188 million (AED690 million) project, developed by Tameer Holdings with ACC as the main contractor, is universally considered to be the holder in waiting.
Not so according to the developers of 23 Marina, a new development located almost in the shadow of the Princess Tower. This 90-storey, 390m tower, launched in October is also claiming to be building the world’s tallest residential building.
Can they both be right? RP Ranganatha, general manager, Hircon is ebullient over who is the rightful heir, refuting the claim made for Princess Tower, mainly because, he says, they [ACC] are building a mixed-use tower. “As it stands this [23 Marina] is the tallest exclusive residential tower in the world, and I say exclusive because although the Princess Tower is taller than us, they have a bit of commercial space. Though they claim it is just a residential tower, they have commercial, whereas we remain exclusively a residential tower,” he says.
Indeed, the Princess Tower does feature offices and sales outlets, whereas 23 Marina is looking to create a single residential neighbourhood within the structure. But semantics aside, the crux is that 23 Marina will still be the second tallest tower in the GCC, and as such likely to pose enough construction challenges on the ground as those across the boardroom table. It is a super high-rise residential building consisting of ground floor plus 88 floors with four basements below ground. The height above ground floor is 324m up to the last roof above which the roof features extend another 66m making the top of the building 390m above ground level.
The tower is being built by Dubai Civil Engineering, with KEO International as the lead consultant. Hircon International, a joint venture between the Hiranandani Group and ETA Star properties, awarded the contract of over $134 million. Hafeez Contractor’s from Mumbai, India is the concept architect. In total the building will have eight levels of parking, three levels of spas, fitness centres and indoor and outdoor temperature-controlled swimming pools. It will also feature a jogging track.
Swiss Boring Overseas Piling is currently on site in Dubai Marina, completing the substructure work and expect to finish the concreting of the piling work by the end of this month, when load testing can begin. It is hoped that this, termed phase one will be completed by mid-November. Phase two will see DCE come on board to mobilise and commence the superstructure. This is expected to last 1,004 days, with the floors being added in a three-day cycle, according to Emad Hammoudi, project manager, KEO International. The proposed structural system comprises shear walls and outriggers, perimeter columns and post-tension slabs.
With a somewhat shallow footprint of 56m, the tower will require significant foundations and it is unsurprising that, at 58m below ground, 23 Marina – with the notable exception of the Burj Dubai – will feature the deepest pilings in the UAE.
According to Anil Mishra, structural engineer, KEO, 182 piles of varying diameters, from 1,500mm to 1,200mm and 900mm will be utilised on the building site. The deepest and most frequent pilings appear at the centre of the footprint where 91 piles of 1,500mm will be sunk. Moreover, 68 1,200mm piles will be sunk 44m either side of the largest piles. And finally, 23 900mm piles will be sunk, encircling the perimeter of the entire site. Mishra adds that the site is home to the most powerful piling rig in the UAE, and it happens to be the only one in the country too.
Surprisingly, however, for a tower of such height and narrow footprint, no damping mechanism has been incorporated into the design. While Mishra voiced his surprise at this omission, Rafi Sheikh head of structural department, KEO explains that without, it is a more efficient and cheaper building process. “The structure itself provides enough damping properties. We have done a study by RWDI in Ontario. They confirmed that building range of acceleration is 15.9 and it has to be between 15 and 18. So it’s very comfortable.” Sheikh adds that the sway at the top of the building will be 450mm each side. Otherwise, Sheikh continues, a damping system is highly expensive, difficult to maintain, and it is hard to ensure they will definitely work.
Furthermore, independent third party checking was carried out by French consultant Socotech in Paris and KEO’s design was verified as being safe and in compliance with regulations. Garassino of Milan, Italy carried out pile group effect studies. Allied to the wind tunnel tests, motion perception studies were conducted by Motioneering of Ontario, Canada, while test pile load-deflection studies were carried out by Loadtest Asia of Singapore.
For the excavation, which currently is at -4m, a diaphragm wall has been constructed, going down 18m and is 80cm thick. Once the piling has been completed, the excavation level will go down a further 8m to -12m. To compensate for the Gulf’s water table, Swiss Boring has installed 24 de-watering wells, placed inside and outside the wall, running continuously to enable construction to take place.
“The de-watering is important, as if it didn’t happen, you would be water-logged and you simply couldn’t build. And from here we need to go down another 8m” says Mishra. The piling work has to be completed first before any excavation takes place, adds Mishra simply because the logistics of transporting the supplies to construct the pilings - concrete, rebar and so forth – any deeper would be extremely difficult.
But the problem that most concerns Mishra is access to supplies and labour, to ensure that work can proceed smoothly. “It is not so much the work itself, the bigger problem in this country are supplies. If you get them at all. In order to get things done on time you need people to do it. And those people are not there all the time because they are on other sites,” he says.
With 73% of all the apartments already sold, according to Hircon, clearly customers in the UAE are not particularly fazed whether it can justify its claim as the world’s tallest residential tower or whether it features a damping system. As long as it provides accommodation to meet Dubai’s metronomic growth and demand for high-specification property, there seemingly will always be someone looking to fill it. The prospect of living in accommodation certified by the Guinness Book of World Records would simply be a bonus.
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they are argueing with Tameer :rofl:
Krazy November 14th, 2006, 10:35 PM From ETA Star
November 8, 2006
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Imre December 15th, 2006, 03:57 PM 23 Marina
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Julito-dubai December 15th, 2006, 04:59 PM They can soon start with the first concrete layer !!!
dubaiflo December 15th, 2006, 06:12 PM woooow who would have expected that. piling almost completed.. rising next yeaaaar...
Stephan23 December 16th, 2006, 02:01 PM :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
DON'T EXPECT THIS SO FAST!!
It's ready to rise!! :master:
Stephan23 January 23rd, 2007, 06:50 PM THX to Julito-Dubai
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Imre January 26th, 2007, 03:02 PM 26/01/2007
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Krazy January 26th, 2007, 03:58 PM great stuff... now time to rise along wit princess
modinodubai January 27th, 2007, 05:32 PM this building is nice but to simple.
Tag_one January 27th, 2007, 06:21 PM thanks for the update! It's very cool to see every step in the building proces :cheers:
Stephan23 February 2nd, 2007, 02:32 PM 02.02.2007
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minime February 2nd, 2007, 04:03 PM this forum would be boring without Imre's update pictures. Is he the only one taking pictures nowadays? Where are the others?
Citystyle February 4th, 2007, 03:03 PM This is a real threat of getting up. Exellent.
mission February 4th, 2007, 03:14 PM Why is this construction site so clean and tidy and the rest are a mess
AltinD February 4th, 2007, 03:36 PM ^^ Every construction site is a mess before being cleanned. It simply means that the work is in a more progressed status in this site, compared to those other ones.
Stephan23 February 16th, 2007, 12:54 PM 16.02.2007
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Citystyle February 17th, 2007, 07:11 AM ^^ Every construction site is a mess before being cleanned. It simply means that the work is in a more progressed status in this site, compared to those other ones.
At this stage of construction, it wont rise if it got shit in the road. :lol:
Stephan23 March 9th, 2007, 12:46 PM 09.03.2007
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malec April 8th, 2007, 10:56 AM Pictures from 27 or 28th of March from the tower website:
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Citystyle April 8th, 2007, 12:48 PM Thank you awsome updates.
scoot68 April 12th, 2007, 10:35 AM http://i17.tinypic.com/2me79de.jpg
AltinD April 12th, 2007, 12:50 PM Look at the Burj Dubai in the background. :eek:
dubaiflo April 12th, 2007, 06:17 PM ^^ :eek:
veeery nice, clear day.
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Citystyle April 13th, 2007, 10:47 AM This is to cool for school, considering how long all the first supertalls at the Marina are taking, for most to be rolling up to start all at once is really awsome.
scoot68 April 13th, 2007, 11:43 AM http://i16.tinypic.com/4hwf609.jpg
Imre April 13th, 2007, 12:33 PM 13/April/2007
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malec April 23rd, 2007, 11:40 AM From website: April 18th
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Blizzy April 23rd, 2007, 12:18 PM Great! My favourite supertall in the Marina. Rise, baby!
Gregorious April 23rd, 2007, 03:37 PM when is it scheduled to finish??
dubaiflo April 23rd, 2007, 06:57 PM raft foundation underway? ready to rise!
ZZ-II April 23rd, 2007, 07:22 PM fantastic :)
malec April 23rd, 2007, 08:15 PM Raft concrete completed for world’s tallest residential tower
Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:41 AM - Dubai Time
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Hircon International announces the completion of the raft for 23 Marina, thus setting the next stage for construction of this 90 storey luxury tower. The sub-structure which includes, excavation, piling works and the diaphragm wall have already been completed and the main structure works are going in full swing.
Dubai Civil Engineering, the main contractors, immediately commenced work on the main structure for this iconic tower upon obtaining the building permit from Dubai Municipality in December 2006. According to Mr. R. P. Ranganatha, GM of Hircon International, “Pile capping, treatment to diaphragm wall, blinding, water proofing and all such allied works were undertaken with round the clock schedule before completing the mai
n raft itself. Nearly 150,000 man hours from all ranks and cadres have gone into the completion of the main raft which encompasses 1400 tonnes of steel and 7000 cubic metres of concrete and measures 3 metres thick.”
“The completion of the raft would ensure that the main structure is safe and is in accordance with the UAE and international building regulations. Our directors Mr. Darshan Hiranandani and Mr. Abid Junaid are pleased with the pace of the construction work and are confident that we will complete the tower on time.” Mr Ranganatha added.
As-to-date, 23 Marina is one of the world’s tallest residential towers, measuring more than 380 meters high. A first in Dubai, 23 Marina boasts having 48 exclusive duplex a
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rtments located on the top 24 floors, each with its own private plunge pool with Jacuzzi, bringing luxury living to the next level. Three luxurious penthouses adorn the topmost level of the tower in addition to 288 apartments in this 90 storey tower with 64 meters steel pineal erected from the roof making it an architectural marvel. 23 Marina received the CNBC awards for best architecture in 2006.
Other interesting features of this tower are the unitized aluminum and glass façade in addition to state-of-art technology and posh amenities which include concierge services, a five star spa, landscaped gardens, a jogging track and temperature controlled swimming pool. There are leisure decks at 3 levels, a business floor and a coffee parlor for exclusive use by the residents of the tower.
http://business.maktoob.com/News-20070218035963-Raft_concrete_completed_for_world_s_tallest_residential_tower
Krazy April 23rd, 2007, 11:49 PM they are still refering to it as the world's tallest residential?
malec April 24th, 2007, 12:03 AM ^^ Well since it'll almost definitely finish before princess it will be the world's tallest res for a little while
malec April 24th, 2007, 04:56 AM Just wondering, are there any people who bought in this tower posting here?
scoot68 April 24th, 2007, 05:55 PM http://i16.tinypic.com/2igjh8z.jpg
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GoDubai! April 24th, 2007, 09:54 PM What a wierd pink color :puke:. Wonder why that kind of sheeting.
ZZ-II April 24th, 2007, 10:32 PM you won't see it in the near future ^^
scoot68 April 25th, 2007, 07:13 AM http://i13.tinypic.com/2rhnwuw.jpg
gis April 25th, 2007, 11:06 AM I am buying in the 23 Marina a 3 bedrooms. I am an italian journalist and art consultant living in Milan, Italy. But I love Dubai!!!! There are other person may be Italian who bought here?
Thanks
Gis
AltinD April 25th, 2007, 12:00 PM ^^ There are a few other Italians posting once in a while in here, who have bought in other projects in Dubai Marina. I'm sure there will be more who don't post.
Congratulazzioni per l'acuisto.
gis April 26th, 2007, 10:36 AM ^^ There are a few other Italians posting once in a while in here, who have bought in other projects in Dubai Marina. I'm sure there will be more who don't post.
Congratulazzioni per l'acuisto.
Grazie. This forum is very interesting, living abroad...
ZZ-II April 26th, 2007, 12:51 PM have you a bigger version of your pic scoot68?
dubaiflo April 26th, 2007, 01:41 PM http://i11.tinypic.com/2rolz6w.jpg
this should be enough
scoot68 April 26th, 2007, 08:49 PM There will be great city and coastal views from this one don't ya reckon?
:)
dubaiflo April 27th, 2007, 01:09 AM ^^ if it is not too hazy and the wind comes from the sea..
scoot68 April 27th, 2007, 07:55 AM True. it has been hazy now for a week. Even today friday is v hazy. Usually you can see downtown on a friday :ohno: .
Imre April 27th, 2007, 01:19 PM 27/04/2007
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tobyas333 April 27th, 2007, 07:14 PM Nice progress :D
What do you think who much time is left before this beauty is over street level?
scoot68 May 9th, 2007, 05:46 PM http://i13.tinypic.com/4xxenx5.jpg
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scoot68 May 9th, 2007, 06:16 PM :)
ZZ-II May 9th, 2007, 06:20 PM starts to rise :)
tobyas333 May 9th, 2007, 08:20 PM Wow, so it's only a little bit behind the torch or?
Tag_one May 9th, 2007, 08:29 PM ^^ yes, it's a few days behind the torch. at the torch's site they've installed some plates so they're be able to pour the concrete for the inner wall. thanx for the picture btw :cheers:
dubaiflo May 9th, 2007, 11:06 PM might even speed up now since the crane is already fully installed? :)
Nachkebia May 13th, 2007, 01:30 PM Aaah, here it is, Nice :)
HateTorch May 16th, 2007, 06:21 PM Date: 16-May-2007, GMT+4, 1802hrs
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HateTorch May 16th, 2007, 06:23 PM Date: 16-May-2007, GMT+4, 1802hrs
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ZZ-II May 16th, 2007, 09:40 PM great pics
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Tag_one May 17th, 2007, 11:06 AM nice! they are progressing well. looks like it's a few days behind the torch.
Gregorious May 17th, 2007, 02:59 PM Isn't the base area too small for such a tall tower?
Imre May 18th, 2007, 02:31 PM 18/May/2007
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tobyas333 May 19th, 2007, 02:31 PM So which one is farther in construction?
23 Marina: http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7921/imresolt123in9.jpg
The Torch: http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4919/imresolt169pd2.jpg
Tag_one May 19th, 2007, 03:01 PM 23 Marina seems further. The steel in the core is already placed at basement level 2, while The Torch is still at level one. Further it seems that there're more frames for the falsework installed than in The Torch :)
scoot68 May 24th, 2007, 01:11 PM http://i8.tinypic.com/66wbl8o.jpg
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Krazy May 24th, 2007, 06:48 PM is it rising?
scoot68 May 24th, 2007, 08:29 PM Not really, preparing to...
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Gregorious May 26th, 2007, 10:18 PM Hey...did u notice the varying degrees of lushness of the grass in the top of those pics?
scoot68 May 27th, 2007, 08:50 PM Ya, every few months they put on open air concerts there and the grass gets a beating. Awesome location for a concert btw, I saw Jamiroquai there and it was an amazing, fully packed outdoor atmosphere :cheers: Last big one I think was Roger Waters. Even Julio's Iglesias has played there, managed to side step that one though :lol:
AltinD May 28th, 2007, 11:09 AM ^^ The Last big gig was Dubai Bike Week, and prior to that Dubai Jazz Festival. I was there and had a great 2 hours of TOTO's music, one of my favourite bands. :cheers:
scoot68 May 28th, 2007, 11:17 AM Great spot eh :cheers:
AltinD May 28th, 2007, 11:36 AM ^^ Definitelly and the towers around at night were a very impressive view.I couldn't stop wondering how "magical" it would be in 3 - 4 years time when most of the other ones will be completed as well.
Morrismarina May 28th, 2007, 02:03 PM ^^ The Last big gig was Dubai Bike Week, and prior to that Dubai Jazz Festival. I was there and had a great 2 hours of TOTO's music, one of my favourite bands. :cheers:
You've a good choice in music Altin, Steve Lukather is one of my all time favourite guitar heroes, amazing band.
AltinD May 28th, 2007, 08:13 PM ^^ And my favourite album (of all times, all bands) is their '92 "Kingdom Of Desire" where Steve got total control of the music and the microphone. A real ROCK album!!!
:cheers:
Gregorious May 29th, 2007, 03:10 PM This is the thread for 23 MARINA not TOTO!!!!
scoot68 May 29th, 2007, 08:51 PM :lol:
AltinD May 30th, 2007, 11:06 AM Will this tower be equiped with TOTO bathroomware? Afterall they are World's biggest producer of such products.
See, anything can be spinned to "on topic" :tongue2:
scoot68 May 30th, 2007, 02:11 PM TOTOlly good progress
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AltinD May 30th, 2007, 05:18 PM ^^ Totolly agree,
but more interesting is the fact that those 2 DAMAC billboards looks like they are attached to the crane arm. :lol:
scoot68 June 3rd, 2007, 04:49 PM http://i17.tinypic.com/4tiad76.jpg
scoot68 June 5th, 2007, 04:28 PM http://i12.tinypic.com/4xyrq04.jpg
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Krazy June 5th, 2007, 04:47 PM huge advertisement in today's newspapers... i thought they had sold out completely?
AltinD June 5th, 2007, 06:54 PM ^^ They never stated that. ;)
ZZ-II June 5th, 2007, 07:25 PM now we can definitely see that 23 Marina will reach the ground level earlier
scoot68 June 5th, 2007, 07:34 PM Urp!
scoot68 June 5th, 2007, 07:35 PM blah
dubaiflo June 6th, 2007, 12:43 AM it would be more than unlikely...
this tower is rather high profile, a lot of 3 and 4 beds which sell very hard unlike 1 and 2 beds. that is why it will take much longer to sell for them.
scoot68 June 14th, 2007, 05:28 PM http://i19.tinypic.com/4m14aw4.jpg
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Imre June 15th, 2007, 11:53 AM 15/June/2007
23 Marina
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Krazy June 15th, 2007, 03:54 PM finally rising!!
Safdar June 23rd, 2007, 06:01 PM bump
Stephan23 June 23rd, 2007, 07:13 PM ^^Welcome Safdar and great first post :D:D:D:D
AltinD June 24th, 2007, 12:33 AM The question is: Is safdar working for Hafeez, ETA-STAR or DCE? :D
Safdar June 24th, 2007, 10:06 AM none of the above. However, the first person to guess the right answer will get a prize.
Imre June 24th, 2007, 12:50 PM HIRANANDANI or DPC ?
AltinD June 24th, 2007, 01:51 PM KEO?
rexdmx June 24th, 2007, 03:31 PM the prices for 23 marina now ranges from 1000 dirhams per sq ft to 1250 dirhams per sq ft. 8TH FLOOR AND 68TH FLOOR. cool huh
did u know emaar contacted ETA and told them to raise their prices? i was told by a good friend in ETA..
AltinD June 24th, 2007, 03:54 PM LOL so they can sell their own projects at a higher price.
Imre June 29th, 2007, 10:42 AM 29/June/2007
23 Marina
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Imre July 6th, 2007, 01:21 PM 06/July/2007
23 Marina
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Imre July 20th, 2007, 11:31 AM 20/July/2007
23 Marina
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rexdmx July 25th, 2007, 07:16 PM Hircon International says apartments in 23 Marina Tower in Dubai have appreciated by 50% since launch in March 2005. The project is 90% sold. Hircon says construction of the 380-metre residential tower is on schedule and will be finished in mid-2009.
AltinD July 25th, 2007, 07:35 PM ^^ 2009 completion is Mission Impossible ... this post will selfdestroy in 5 seconds.
AltinD July 25th, 2007, 07:38 PM 20/July/2007
23 Marina
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This building is way to CLOSE to the main road. :nuts:
ZZ-II July 25th, 2007, 11:16 PM we'll see when it is taller
AltinD July 26th, 2007, 11:23 AM ^^ Why? When it gets taller, it shiftes away from the street as well? :D
Krazy July 26th, 2007, 04:45 PM I'm pretty sure they will build a sidewalk here.. they have to!
malec July 26th, 2007, 04:47 PM If you look at the model (wherever it is, somewhere in this thread) you'll see that the tower is on the very edge of the podium.
AltinD July 26th, 2007, 06:29 PM I'm pretty sure they will build a sidewalk here.. they have to!
A sidewalk for sure, but it is right on the edge of a main road on 2 sides, unlike Al Seef that it is slightly more distant.
ZZ-II July 27th, 2007, 12:33 AM ^^ Why? When it gets taller, it shiftes away from the street as well? :D
no, because of the formwork i can't see the size so clear.
malec July 30th, 2007, 03:53 PM http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1631/23marina1smallhi6.jpg
And a massive version:
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Imre August 3rd, 2007, 12:32 PM 03/Aug/2007
23 Marina
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Imre August 6th, 2007, 01:55 PM coming very fast!
06/Aug/2007
23 Marina
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Imre August 9th, 2007, 07:55 PM 09/August/2007
23 Marina
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Imre August 17th, 2007, 10:46 AM 17/Aug/2007
23 Marina
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scoot68 August 17th, 2007, 11:24 AM http://i14.tinypic.com/4xnbz8w.jpg
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Julito-dubai August 26th, 2007, 02:44 PM are there any plans for the area right of 23 Marina across the street?
Imre August 26th, 2007, 07:12 PM That plot using now the Alec , offices and storage area and the next one is the Summit plot.
TowerPower August 27th, 2007, 05:29 AM Thinking about it, I get the feeling 23 Marina is going to look much better than the renders suggest, and that's pretty darn good.
saeed August 29th, 2007, 01:34 PM so is it 380 or 395 height?
rexdmx August 29th, 2007, 01:50 PM 395m
so is it 380 or 395 height?
Imre August 31st, 2007, 04:00 PM 31/Aug/2007
23 Marina
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Julito-dubai September 6th, 2007, 12:47 PM http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1333920450&size=o
one level more...
Imre September 7th, 2007, 06:45 PM 07/Sept/2007
23 Marina
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GoDubai! September 9th, 2007, 02:19 PM I haven't seen a site so busy since the Marina Mall was in its early days of construction. The 23 Marina site was a buzz with an incredible amount of activity yesterday (8 Sep). Workers like ants and all kinds of machinery. That tower is presently on steroids.
TowerPower September 9th, 2007, 08:19 PM ^^ Good thing Dubai doesn't ban them (steroids)
Imre September 10th, 2007, 12:58 PM 10/Sept/2007
23 Marina
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scoot68 September 13th, 2007, 10:10 AM http://i12.tinypic.com/4rcs00n.jpg
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Shadow|Reaper September 17th, 2007, 11:08 PM Today i was coming back from school around 12:30 and there was stuff going on there, like pumping concrete and also workers were at the site. Good sign!
Imre September 21st, 2007, 01:01 PM 21/Sept/2007
23 Marina
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scoot68 October 2nd, 2007, 03:44 PM http://i20.tinypic.com/xpx1zk.jpg
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Krazy October 2nd, 2007, 04:14 PM great shot.. u can clearly see the shape of the first floor plate!
ZZ-II October 4th, 2007, 09:01 PM progressing very fast. and the final shape of the tower is also already visible :)
OmarPERU October 5th, 2007, 08:53 PM Hi there, I passed by and could take a couple of pictures this afternoon
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Shot with N95 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=N95&make=Nokia) at 2007-10-05
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Shot with N95 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=N95&make=Nokia) at 2007-10-05
scoot68 October 11th, 2007, 03:39 PM http://i22.tinypic.com/n523y8.jpg
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Tractor October 11th, 2007, 04:32 PM Holy crap, is that a concrete truck tipped over?!
Dubai Addiction October 11th, 2007, 11:38 PM yes it is ... that's why the crane is in the middle of the road :O
Morrismarina October 12th, 2007, 12:45 AM ***
GoDubai! October 12th, 2007, 04:24 PM I'd bet the concrete truck driver was flying down the ramp and lost control. So many busses, trucks, cars, etc. take the ramp like a raceway.
AltinD October 12th, 2007, 05:51 PM ^^ Only the ramp? ... every damn road and curb. The way people drive here is not affected at all from the type of vehicle they are driving: being a car, a 4x4, a van, a bus, a truck or a trailer ... it's all the same.
Naz UK October 12th, 2007, 06:50 PM Dubai drivers have the perfect blend of uneducated bufoonery, selfishness, gormlessness, braincell deficiency, and a complete lack of respect for law and life and any degree of commonly acceptable driving skills.
dubaiflo October 13th, 2007, 09:31 PM This is why I won't drive here..
Just ridiculous. But 23 Marina looks rather massive to me now that u can see the actual shape.
AltinD October 14th, 2007, 12:18 AM ^^ You can't drive here even if you want to. :D
... but I do agree that the building looks massive indeed.
scoot68 October 23rd, 2007, 08:00 PM http://i23.tinypic.com/k3u7mg.jpg
scoot68 October 23rd, 2007, 08:01 PM http://i24.tinypic.com/2zhp8g1.jpg
bizzybonita October 23rd, 2007, 08:12 PM this is what i called faster progress since start construction ( number 1 fast progress of tallest towers)at dubai marina .
thnx scoot
Imre October 24th, 2007, 06:55 PM 24/October/2007
23 Marina
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scoot68 October 30th, 2007, 03:53 PM http://i23.tinypic.com/14m80ac.jpg
Imre October 31st, 2007, 04:50 PM 31/October/2007
23 Marina
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Anjam October 31st, 2007, 06:22 PM ^^Who is HIRCON?
Imre October 31st, 2007, 06:30 PM ^^
developer of the 23 Marina ,joint venture between ETA Star and Hirandani
ccjr November 6th, 2007, 12:04 PM Pics taken a few days ago
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scoot68 November 6th, 2007, 02:51 PM http://i20.tinypic.com/11jp3l2.jpg
Imre November 6th, 2007, 04:33 PM 06/November/2007
23 Marina
If you are driving too fast can jump somebody bedroom:)
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Imre November 9th, 2007, 09:10 AM 09/November/2007
23 Marina
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