#UNDER C: 23 MARINA, 89F Res, 395m

[Dubai Freak]

Name: 23 Marina
Location: Dubai Marina
Floors: 90
Height: 389m ???
Use: Residential

http://207.44.228.232/photopost/data//500/223_Marina.jpg



Info from an email this morning . . I have not seen it before . . is it true?

Yet again we are coming up with a new project. For the first time in Dubai, two major developers are joining hands to launch “23 Marina” ETA STAR PROPERTIES & HIRANANDANI (HORCON) project developer from Bombay. Officially to be launched on the 22nd of March 2005.

It will be classified among the tallest building in Dubai Marina. Located right off the highway, just before Al Seef Tower. It is a corner plot.

Project Specifications:

90 Storey Residential

Estimated Height 389 m

4 Level basement parking

4 Level podium parking

3 Levels of Spa & Health Club (to be managed by a 5 star hotel)

[Krazy]

389 m???? Yes this is something definitely new for Dubai Marina! Cant wait for the render !!!

[Krazy]

And this is what Dubai Lover wrote about in the top secret development thread.

http://www.etastarproperties.com/
check the news & updates box (feb 3)

[city of the future]

this is the supertall we were waiting for

[SA BOY]

need to wait 6 days to see. Hope its not Princess tower (same number of floors and close proximity) but dont think so as Princess is Saudi devlelopers and this is Indian .
Cant wait.
Dubai will have the most 300m+ towers in the world

[Krazy]

^ and helps show once again - dubai marina tallest block in the world

[Dubai-Lover]

it will definitely be the eta tower krazy has referred to
it definitely is a new one

will it be opposite al seef and number one dubai marina then? that is the dmc district

[Dubai Freak]

Primelocation.com are advertising already . . . Flat for sale in 23 Marina at Dubai Marina - Guide Price of £244,123, this site has no picture available yet!

[dazz]

wow, can't wait for it.

could it be located here:
http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina_tower_location.gif

[Michiel]

From the Primelocation (http://www.primelocation.com) website :eek:

http://img17.exs.cx/img17/8743/23marina5qm.jpg

[Dubai-Lover]

wow
a neckbreaker :D

but once again the design is average i think
i want to see a superfuturistic supertall!

[Dubai-Lover]

i will add it to emporis but without height
it's just estimated

[DUBAI]

:eek2: Freakin Awesome! :eek2:

[dubaiflo]

wwwoowww not bad at all...
i link this one more than al ameera and najad...
just awesome...
and huuuuge...this is sooo cool.
shall we make a thread in world forum?

[Krazy]

Is the structure a hexagon ?!

[Krazy]

D-L / Dubai Freak - can one of you please add the render to the first post?

[Dubai-Lover]

btw - do you guys know what all this means? no?

i just know the aussies will be very sad :lol: ;)

[Michiel]

Is the structure a hexagon ?!

I think so. Some floor plans here (http://www.homesonsale.co.uk/index.php?page=out&id=13421), but they only show one corner apartment. Property description on this site:

Floors 7 to 31:
2 and 3 bedrooms beginning at AED 935 per sq.ft. increasing AED 5 per sq.ft for each floor up to floor 31. £216,690 to £332,265(1.5 million AED – 2.3 million AED).

Floors 34 to 58:*
3 bedroom apartments starting from AED 1,070 per sq.ft. increasing by AED 5 per sq.ft for each floor up to floor 58. £476,586 to £519,912 (3.3 million AED – 3.6 million AED.

Floors 61 to 83:*
4 bedroom Duplex’s - apartments starting from AED 1205 per sq.ft. increasing AED 5 per sq.ft for each floor up to floor 87. £967,688 to £1,054,562 (6.7 million AED – 7.3 million AED).

[Krazy]

btw - do you guys know what all this means? no?

i just know the aussies will be very sad :lol: ;)

Oh yea, I didnt even realize that

[CULWULLA]

btw - do you guys know what all this means? no?

i just know the aussies will be very sad :lol: ;)
LOL. yeah well its good that Q1 and Eureka will have there time in the limelight as worlds tallest apartments.they will have there names cemented in the history b00ks as worlds tallest for there time. Q1 looks like it will beat Eureka to officially top out first. Q1 is currently 240m with the 35m glass fin to be constructed soon and then of course the mighty spire topping at 322.5m, probably June/july with opening sept!
Eurekas core will top out next week at 297m.then floors to catch up,maybe sept, then 50m mast will be put up to top out at 351m.it supposed to open for Xmas and officially open early 2006.
so current tallest is 21stC tower at 269m (2003) in Dubai (of course) and then it will go to 322m/Q1 in (2005) and Eureka 351m (2006) and then 23 marina- 389m (2008).

[beiklopa]

i have a feeling tht there will be some prob with eureka in 2006, for al ameera (Dubai,2008)and najd tower(Dubai,2007) will come up too. but anywayz, 2006will be for eureka , yeah. time will show:)

[dubaiflo]

not sure if najd and al ameera will top eureka,
btw al ameera is for 2009 actually?!

[CULWULLA]

heres a really quick diagram showing progressive tallest resi towers since 2003.
the 23 marina is a only a guestimate on what it looks like from the small render. not sure about roof height ect. but gives you idea.

http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6389/worldstop46oj.jpg

[Dubai-Lover]

the roof structure indeed seems to be up to 100m
eureka is 91 floors and 297m to roof if i remember well
depends on what the floor to floor height is

[beiklopa]

hmm yeah i gues al ameera is due to 2009, sorry for wrong info:) ohh and , sorry , but eureka has UGLY DESIGN, AND UGLY NAME .imo.

[dubaiflo]

well the name , you can argue about ,the design is not that bad i would say. like it actually...

[beiklopa]

well the name , you can argue about ,the design is not that bad i would say. like it actually...
oh yeah, the name is hmmm crap... but the rest is nice:P i like it, its kinda simple.:P

[dubaiflo]

you said it has ugly design half an hour ago!??!

[Trances]

Well at least Down Under will get some time
never expect to get a go at the title at all even so even to have it for a few years would be great and for two towers !
Hope this tower is an orginal one. Still less that 400 meters was hoping for one massive super tall at the Marina. But then guess have to be realistic and settle for 380 some thing. I do belive it look modern almost a little BOC if it had some more glass

[dubaiflo]

actually i think there should be no "modern" tower in the Marina, ocean heights is almost to modern, but it looks so great that i have no problem with it,
but i don't think ...lets say one central park would fit into the marina.
the design is ok and will look great next to the other supertalls...
well no more space no for a 400+ tower actually, at least in the upper marina.
but well 400...that is a loooot so 380 is ok.

[Dubai-Lover]

we still have 5 free plots in the upper marina right from behind le reve and to next to al seef. the strip behind the first row

marina gardens will be on one of these
will they even build taller to have towers looking over the front row? :eek: :lol:

[dubaiflo]

then we will go for 400 sure...
but i thought the shopping mall will be built there?!?
between first and last (23marina) row??

[Dubai-Lover]

yes, right in between
i have a name for the mall already: "grand canyon mall" :hilarious

i'm sure the yellow circle marks the correct spot

i'm excited what other towers will be built between marina pinnacle/mag 218 and al seef/23 marina

the mall will be the long green t-shaped cross

http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina_tower_location.gif

[beiklopa]

oh tht would be amazing:) the second row is overlooking the first:) cant wait to see tht.
dubaiflo, i meant the ugly design of the eureka, and nice , and simple design of 23 marina. u misunderstood me

[CULWULLA]

The name- EUREKA is a very important part of Melbournes history. The Eureka Stockade was a bloody battle.
check it out>>

http://www.ballarat.com/eurekastockade.htm

[beiklopa]

The name- EUREKA is a very important part of Melbournes history. The Eureka Stockade was a bloody battle.
check it out>>

http://www.ballarat.com/eurekastockade.htm

IMportant,i agree ,but still sounds :puke: IMO

[dubaiflo]

ok so there are still free plots for new towers nect to the mall...nice to hear.

[AltinD]

IMportant,i agree ,but still sounds :puke: IMO

Eureka is a Latin word, and has a very important schientific fact behind it. Actually it means: "Got it" like in "I found the answer"

[Krazy]

Over on skyscraperpage, people are calling this tower a cheater (for using its long spire to break the height record) and some even refuse to believe it will be built (like so many other Dubai projects)

[Michiel]

Over on skyscraperpage, people are calling this tower a cheater (for using its long spire to break the height record)
So they know the height of the spire? Remember that Culwulla called it a 'guestimate' in post #35.

[AltinD]

From the render the spire doesn't look tall. It's funny how Culwulla, intentionally I'll say,made the roof not taller then that of Eureka.

[beiklopa]

the proposed location,hmm looks empty:)
http://img152.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img152&image=img01920ez.jpg

[Dubai-Lover]

but something is happening :)
testing the ground maybe?

[beiklopa]

there were two small machines ,donno what they r called, but hmm they looked strange, maybe testing the ground , i dono:)

[Dubai-Lover]

it's official - wtrb in dubai!


Hircon JV to build 90-storey Dubai Marina tower

Leading Dubai property developer ETA Star is teaming up with the designer of some of region's most sought-after communities to erect a tower destined to become one of Dubai Marina's most impressive landmarks.


Hircon LLC, ETA Star's joint venture with India's Hiranandani Developers Pte. Ltd., is to build a 90-storey edifice, to be known as '23 Marina'.

By linking up with ETA Star, Hiranandani, creator of one of Mumbai's most desirable residential addresses at Hiranandani Gardens in Powai, is consolidating its moves into international markets. In addition to this, its second major Marina project, ETA Star has several other projects under way at Jumeirah Lake Towers and Dubai International Financial Centre.

Towering to 380 metres, 23 Marina encompasses 48 exclusive duplex apartments on the top floors of the 90 storey tower. Each duplex promises a regal way of living with unique features such as independent elevator, open-to-air swimming pool, and private Jacuzzi. Detail to elegance is reflected right from the majestic lobby with a 6 storey entrance hall with advanced facilities, to the magnificent podium exterior design. The residents can enjoy the pleasures of a 5-star health spa, landscaped garden and jogging track, indoor and outdoor temperature controlled pools, children's pool, bubble bath and spas at 3 levels of the tower.

'The ETA-ASCON Group has been bringing expertise in the field of construction and project management to the United Arab Emirates for over three decades. The company was constantly looking for ways to leverage its expertise, and as a result, a new company called ETA Star Property Developers L.L.C. was formed to focus on freehold property development in Dubai's booming real estate market,' said Abid A. Junaid, Executive Director, ETA Star properties.

'ETA Star has been quick to make its move on the local construction scene with projects in advanced stages of development in the Jumeirah Lake Towers, Dubai International Financial Centre and Dubai Marina developments. Furthermore, we are confident that with the launch of 23 Marina project, ETA Star will further strengthen its position in Dubai's property marketplace. This tie-up is brimming with potential and expertise, bringing together the experience and professionalism that are the hallmarks of both companies,' added Junaid.

'I foresee Dubai being the Monte Carlo of the world in a few years and our development has been designed to cater to that kind of clientele. We believe that representing India in Dubai at this juncture is the beginning of an experiment to build better communities beyond India's borders. We quickly settled on a joint venture with ETA Star Properties of Dubai because of their ties to India and look forward to a long-lasting and fruitful partnership,' said Darshan Hiranandani, Director of HIRCON LLC.

23 Marina will be situated in the heart of the excitement of Dubai Marina quay, just a two-minute drive from Sheikh Zayed Road Dubai Marina Interchange. Jumeirah Palm will be five minutes away, as will the World Islands, Emirates Golf Course, the 7-star Burj al Arab and other elite hotels, and Dubai Marina Yacht Club is within walking distance.

'Spacious apartments and lavish duplexes come with an ocean view to relax the mind, body and soul. There are 26 storeys of duplex apartments each with a private plunge pool. This concept is a first in Dubai. Also, minute attention has been paid to designing the breathtaking exterior glass façade, while equal care has been taken to introduce state-of-art technology and posh amenities. The intention has been to create a seamless experience of beauty, aesthetics and luxury,' concluded Darshan.

[Chad]

Damn, How many "most impressive Landmark" Dubai eventually gonna have?...:D

[Dubai-Lover]

how about this

http://www.tradearabia.com/source/2005-03/21/ETA.jpg

[AltinD]

Poor Al Seef and Marina Crown :D

[SA BOY]

not a fan, too chineese for me

[Krazy]

90-storey tower for Dubai Marina

ETA Star is teaming up with Hircon, ETA Star's joint venture with India's Hiranandani Developers to build a 90-storey tower to be known as 23 Marina. Towering to 380 metres over the Dubai Marina, it will have 48 duplex apartments on the top floors. Residents can enjoy a five-star health spa, indoor and outdoor temperature controlled pools, children's pool, bubble bath and spas at three levels.

[Dubai-Lover]

not a fan, too chineese for me

i like it, because we don't have something like this yet

[beiklopa]

just was walking in media city, and comparing al seef to the upcoming 23 marina... got vertigo....

[Bahraini Spirit]

Article about it, pic posted by DL above:


Hircon, ETA Star's joint venture with India's Hiranandani Developers, is to build a 90-storey tower, destined to become one of Dubai Marina's most impressive landmarks.

The '23 Marina' tower, ETA Star's second major Marina project, will be situated in the heart of the excitement of Dubai Marina quay, just a two-minute drive from Shaikh Zayed Road Dubai Marina Interchange.

Towering to 380 metres, 23 Marina encompasses 48 exclusive duplex apartments on the top floors of the 90-storey tower.

Jumeirah Palm will be five minutes away, as will the World Islands, Emirates Golf Course, the seven-star Burj al Arab and other elite hotels, and Dubai Marina Yacht Club is within walking distance.

The Dubai property developer is teaming up with the designer of some of region's most sought-after communities to erect the tower.

By linking up with ETA Star, Hiranandani, creator of one of Bombay's most desirable residential addresses at Hiranandani Gardens in Powai, is consolidating its moves into international markets.

In addition to this, ETA Star has several other projects under way at Jumeirah Lake Towers and Dubai International Financial Centre.

Each duplex promises a regal way of living with unique features such as independent elevator, open-to-air swimming pool, and private Jacuzzi.

Detail to elegance is reflected right from the majestic lobby with a six-storey entrance hall with advanced facilities, to the magnificent podium exterior design. The residents can enjoy the pleasures of a five-star health spa, landscaped garden and jogging track, indoor and outdoor temperature controlled pools, children's pool, bubble bath and spas at 3 levels of the tower.

'We are confident that with the launch of 23 Marina project, ETA Star will further strengthen its position in Dubai's property marketplace,' Abid A Junaid, executive director, ETA Star properties.

'The ETA-Ascon Group has been bringing expertise in the field of construction and project management to the UAE for over three decades.

'The company was constantly looking for ways to leverage its expertise, and as a result, a new company called ETA Star Property Developers was formed to focus on freehold property development in Dubai's booming real estate market,' said Abid A Junaid.

'ETA Star has been quick to make its move on the local construction scene with projects in advanced stages of development in the Jumeirah Lake Towers, Dubai International Financial Centre and Dubai Marina developments.

'This tie-up is brimming with potential and expertise, bringing together the experience and professionalism that are the hallmarks of both companies,' added Junaid.

Darshan Hiranandani, director of Hircon, said:

'I foresee Dubai being the Monte Carlo of the world in a few years and our development has been designed to cater to that kind of clientele.

'We believe that representing India in Dubai at this juncture is the beginning of an experiment to build better communities beyond India's borders.

'We quickly settled on a joint venture with ETA Star Properties of Dubai because of their ties to India and look forward to a long-lasting and fruitful partnership,' said Darshan Hiranandani.

'Spacious apartments and lavish duplexes come with an ocean view to relax the mind, body and soul.

'There are 26 storeys of duplex apartments each with a private plunge pool.

'This concept is a first in Dubai. Also, minute attention has been paid to designing the breathtaking exterior glass façade, while equal care has been taken to introduce state-of-art technology and posh amenities.

'The intention has been to create a seamless experience of beauty, aesthetics and luxury,' said Darshan.

ETA Star Property Developers was established in 2004 as the property development arm of the ETA Ascon Group.

The prime objective of the company is to harness the growing commercial opportunity in Dubai's Freehold market.

ETA Star has embarked on an ambitious programme to develop commercial and residential properties to cater to a discerning international clientele.

Developments over four million square feet of built-up area are already underway and many more are planned over the coming decade.

Hiranandani Group today is a company that creates entire community infrastructure right from scratch.

Besides infrastructure business, they are diversified into other business areas like entertainment, healthcare, hospitality, retail and call centers.

With regard to the infrastructure industry, they have credits of over 10 million square feet of accomplished construction in India.

[BinDubai]

great render dennies i like the design :)

[CULWULLA]

so 380m not 389m? 389m must of been height about sea level?
ive just scaled pic-
width of tower-40m
height to first plantlevel-104m
height to 2nd plantlevel-196m
height to base of cone- 293m or top of 90th floor
height to base of spire-348m
height to spire-380m

now i can draw up a more detail diagram.

[Raza]

what is even more amazing is that an indian comapany is gona build this tower.

[CULWULLA]

height comparison
http://img240.exs.cx/img240/2153/23marinaeurekaq18ao.jpg

[Krazy]

what is even more amazing is that an indian comapany is gona build this tower.

What about that fact amazes you?

[Krazy]

If it is indeed 380m and not 389m, than will it share the title of the tallest residential tower wit the Princess tower?

[Dubai-Lover]

i guess the 380m for princess tower (al ameera) was a misunderstanding

i also think cul's drawing is correct, the roof-structure of this tower is very tall, so the top floors of both buildings are on the same height of about 300m

the highest occupyable floor will still have one central park at difc

[Krazy]

I thought 380m was confirmed for ameera

[AltinD]

I couldn't check Gulf News today but I noticed that an Arabic Newspaper had a full page ad for this tower.

[dubaiflo]

they know nothing, not even if the height is correct, nothing about spire etc and call it cheater...wtf...
hate those people more and more.
q1 is a cheater...

btw thought it was confirmed, al ameera 340-380 to spire?!?
would be funny if both share the wtrb title...

[SA BOY]

Keo are architects
NASA/Multiplex are builders

[Dubai-Lover]

maybe we should contact them to get their confirmation for the height
giles can you link the companies on emporis, i'm a bit busy today

[SA BOY]

already done mate

[SA BOY]

any news on your emporis/skyscrapers email as it will deffinatly be more "official" than what we do now and we may get a better responce

[AltinD]

Keo are architects
NASA/Multiplex are builders

Hafeez Contractor.

Developer's website: www.hircon-me.com

The height, according to the ad in Gulf News, is 380 m.

[Dubai-Lover]

just had a look at the pdf brochure and it's awesome

[dubaiflo]

yeah really amazing...!
did not hear of them before.
theyre doing a lot of jlt towers...

btw d-l you could change thread name ( to be launched... not necessary any more)

[Dubai-Lover]

Hircon venture to build 90-storey Marina tower


Dubai : Leading Dubai property developer ETA Star is teaming up with India's Hiranandani Developers to build a 90-storey building, to be known as 23 Marina, as part of Dubai Marina.

The new project, 23 Marina, will be situated in Dubai Marina quay, just a two-minute drive from Shaikh Zayed Road's Dubai Marina Interchange.

By linking up with ETA Star to form Hircon JV, Hiranandani, creator of one of Mumbai's most desirable residential addresses at Hiranandani Gardens in Powai, is consolidating its move into the international market.

In addition to this, ETA Star has several other projects under way at Jumeirah Lake Towers and the Dubai International Financial Centre.

To be 380 metres high, 23 Marina encompasses 48 exclusive duplex apartments on the top floors of the 90-storey tower.

[dubaiflo]

two minutes drive. lol rush hour it may take 15 minutes sometimes...

[Dubai-Lover]

architectural consultant is http://www.hafeezcontractor.com

[dubaiflo]

renders

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/dubaiflo/23ren.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/dubaiflo/23aer.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/dubaiflo/23.jpg

[beiklopa]

dubaiflo, u r the best!!!!!!:)

[AltinD]

http://www.industrynetworks.net/html/prjbulletin/shared/images/prjb_title.gif
http://www.industrynetworks.net/html/prjbulletin/issue8/images/prjb_projname.gif

PROJECT OVERVIEW
Project Type: Residential - Multi-Storey (Over 15)
Progress: Design
Estimated Completion: 2008
Estimated Value: 250 to 299 million (USD)

http://www.industrynetworks.net/html/prjbulletin/issue8/images/23_marina.jpg

The USD 272.3 million 23 Marina Tower, located at District A23D of the Dubai Marina Development is a 90 storey deluxe residential tower.

With 48 exclusive duplex apartments each promising a regal lifestyle, 23 Marina is set to become a highlight of the exclusive development. Comrised of unique features such as independent elevator, open-to-air swimming pool, and a private Jacuzzi, elegance is reflected right from the majestic lobby with a 6 storey entrance hall with advanced facilities, to the magnificent podium exterior design.

The residents can enjoy the pleasures of a 5-star health spa, landscaped garden and jogging track, indoor and outdoor temperature controlled pools, children's pool, bubble bath and spas at 3 levels of the tower.

COMPANIES
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Hircon International LLC http://www.hiranandani.com/
United Arab Emirates

Company Type: Owner, Investor
Notes: This company is a joint venture between ETA Star & Hiranandani Developers Pte. Ltd.Mr. Ali Soori, Managing Director
Notes: Mr. R.P Ranganatha, General Manager
Contact No.: +971-4-3314047
Email: dubai@hiranandani.com
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Emaar Properties PJSC http://www.emaar.ae/
United Arab Emirates

Company Type: Owner, Property Developer
Contact No.: +971-4-3673333
Email: enquiry@emaar.ae
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KEO International Consultants http://www.keoic.com/
United Arab Emirates

Company Type: Consultant, Lead
Key Contact: Mr. Mouine Abu Zaky, Project Manager
Contact No.: +971-4-3293113
Email: info@keoic.com
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Architect Hafeez Contractor http://www.hafeezcontractor.com/
India

Company Type: Consultant, Architechtural
Contact No.: +91-22-22661920
Email: hafeez@hcontractor.com
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Nasa Multiplex LLC http://www.multiplex.com.au/
United Arab Emirates
Company Type: Contractor, Main
Key Contact: Mr. Terry Martin, Project Manager
Contact No.: +971-4-3328682
Email: nmxdubai@emirates.net.ae
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NOTES

March 28, 2005
Construction is expected to commence in mid May, 2005.(Ref: PRJAE0507492/001)

[Krazy]

thanks altind, useful info for emporis, will add it now

[dubaiflo]

thanks altin
landscaped garden,... JOGGING TRACK lol i guess you can run up the emergency stairs....

[markmywords]

http://img216.exs.cx/img216/6307/23marina9md.jpg

[SA BOY]

its great to get such detailed info , where did you get it altind?

[markmywords]

its great to get such detailed info , where did you get it altind?

Altind?

[Krazy]

http://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/23marina/images/overview_01.jpghttp://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/23marina/images/overview_02.jpg

[juiced]

Altind?

An important celebrity in Dubai

[Krazy]

http://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/23marina/images/location_01.jpghttp://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/23marina/images/location_02.jpghttp://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/23marina/images/location_03.jpghttp://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/23marina/images/location_04.jpghttp://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/23marina/images/location_05.jpg

[Krazy]

http://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/23marina/images/feci02.gif

[Dubai-Lover]

wow, what a render :eek:
still doesn't look like a 380 monster

[dubaiflo]

why?
for me it looks like a 380m monster in that pic above actually.
but the spire looks really huge...

[AltinD]

its great to get such detailed info , where did you get it altind?

From: www.industrynetworks.net

I don't know how i got registered to their weekly newsletter. They have such complete datas for dozens of other buildings, but you have to be registered and download their portal (they may have a fee or maybe not)

[SA BOY]

cool just keep adding the info you get its very informative and helpfull

[dubaiflo]

but be careful they don't take money from your bank account with you not realizing that ;)

[AltinD]

but be careful they don't take money from your bank account with you not realizing that ;)

I neither registered, nor downloaded their portal in my PC. I just receive their weekly newsletter in my (company) e-mail addreess, so I check their website and post the same here.

[dubaiflo]

ha they have their agents observing you and know everything about you and even you're bank account number ;)

[Dubai-Lover]

http://www.hafeezcontractor.com/housing/apartmentbuilding/dubaitower/dubai1.jpg

http://www.hafeezcontractor.com/housing/apartmentbuilding/dubaitower/dubai2.jpg

http://www.hafeezcontractor.com/housing/apartmentbuilding/dubaitower/dubai4.jpg

http://www.hafeezcontractor.com/housing/apartmentbuilding/dubaitower/dubai6.jpg

[Trances]

double floor apartments !! I love that

[AltinD]

http://www.hafeezcontractor.com/housing/apartmentbuilding/dubaitower/dubai1.jpg

10, 9, 8, ... 3, 2, 1, ignition ...

... gentlemans, we got a lift-off ... :lol:

[Trances]

more rocket looking there than rotana rose hotel

[SA BOY]

whats with the star at the top of the spire?

[dubaiflo]

lol, like a rocket.
the double floor apts are great, have a look at the pdf..!

[Nizey]

whats with the star at the top of the spire?


Helipad. :jk:

[dubaiflo]

lol.
for model helis...
suppose it is antenna or something.

[AltinD]

...suppose it is antenna or something.

yeah, for better mobile receptions. It seams they are trying to lure intoo Marina the residents of Emirates Hills and other compexes there. :lol:

[dubaiflo]

hehe, but honestly, i wonder if mobiles work 700m above ground in a city?
anyone an expert?
otherwise they need a additional antenna on top of the burj dubai?!

[Trances]

sure the mobiles will work !
Cell Phones can work any thing from 7 to 20km from tranmission towers
You dont see cell phone tramissitors every 500 meters do you ?
http://www.qgazette.com/news/2003/1126/Front_Page/004p1_lg.jpg

[BinDubai]

about mobile coverage Dubai has one of the highest in the world 90% and higher than some western european countries 80% !

[Trances]

i sure australia is above 94% of the population
the country is another matter so much is empty

[dubaiflo]

sure the mobiles will work !
Cell Phones can work any thing from 7 to 20km from tranmission towers
You dont see cell phone tramissitors every 500 meters do you ?
http://www.qgazette.com/news/2003/1126/Front_Page/004p1_lg.jpg

but i was not sure how the signal spreads, it could be that is doesn't reach that high.

[Trances]

you could be right would make no sense for it to go as far up as it go across

[dubaiflo]

across is the word i searched for.
that is what i mean.
but on the other hand you have usually even mobile coverage on a mountain..?!

[juiced]

yeah, for better mobile receptions. It seams they are trying to lure intoo Marina the residents of Emirates Hills and other compexes there. :lol:

Where are my bags, I'll move anywhere to get better reception! Not Arabian Ranches though...

[DUBAI]

you could be right would make no sense for it to go as far up as it go across


if you are prepared to break the rules, its supprising that you can get mobile reception in planes!

[dubaiflo]

why do you know? you were prepared enough to break the rules ;) ?

[Trances]

yes of course you can !

[nezzybaby]

ooh exellent second time i get to use my area of expertise on this forum.. (i study electrical engineering). Signals move omnidirectionally from transmitters, and carry on for as far as they can in all directions. the main things that stop the signals are hills and buildings, also the signal fades over distance due to interference from the atmosphere. signals go straight up very easily and 700m will not be a problem at all, a mobile signal will be a lot stronger generally on top of a mountain than at the base of it.

[dubaiflo]

thanks for clearing that up.

[Dubai-Lover]

webiste finally updated

www.hircon-me.com

[SA BOY]

some good info on the site

[Trances]

even floor plans and every thing
with floors 63 up each having their own plunge pool

[dubaiflo]

that looks great...
imagine you can swim 300m above ground.. nice nice.
but ain't that a little windy?

[Trances]

well when is like being 100 meters to the beach is to far when you consider you have to go 300 meters down first so guess the pools are very much needed :)

[Trances]

in case you dont know a stage of this tower is also to built by Nasa Multiplex

"In addition, Nasa Multiplex has been awarded the first phase of a construction management role on the Hircon Tower, an 89 storey luxury residential project on the shores of the new Dubai Marina."

[dubaiflo]

but we have 90 stories here...

[Trances]

Mah it just how they count the ground floor

[dubaiflo]

could be the reason ;)

[Krazy]

23 Marina to have 57 swimming pools

Leading Dubai property developer ETA Star has teamed up with the designer of some of region's most sought-after communities to erect one of the world's tallest residential tower with 57 swimming pools destined to become one of Dubai Marina's most impressive landmarks.

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/3/14153-marina23.jpg
Team from ETA Ascon, ETA Star and the Hiranandani Group at HIrcon's '23 Marina' launch

Hircon LLC, ETA Star's joint venture with India's Hiranandani Developers Pte. Ltd. will build a 90-storey edifice, known as '23 Marina'. Hircon recently conducted a major launch event in Dubai for its customers and partners.

Towering to 380 metres, 23 Marina encompasses 48 exclusive duplex apartments on the top floors of the 90 storey tower. Each duplex promises a regal way of living with unique features such as independent elevator, open-to-air swimming pool, and private Jacuzzi. Detail to elegance is reflected right from the majestic lobby with a 6-storey entrance hall with advanced facilities, to the magnificent podium exterior design. The residents can enjoy the pleasures of a 5-star health spa, landscaped garden and jogging track, indoor and outdoor temperature controlled pools, children's pool, bubble bath and spas at 3 levels of the tower.

'ETA Star has strengthened its position with projects in advanced stages of development in the Jumeirah Lake Towers, Dubai International Financial Centre and Dubai Marina developments. With the recent launch of 23 Marina we are confident of further consolidating our position in Dubai's property marketplace. This tie-up with the Hiranandani Group is brimming with potential and expertise, bringing together the experience and professionalism that are the hallmarks of both companies,' said Abid A. Junaid, Executive Director, ETA Star properties.

23 Marina is an iconic waterfront tower that will bring upscale living and contemporary luxuries in its exclusive 2 & 3 Bedroom Hall Kitchen apartments and duplexes. The project has stimulated an enthusiastic response, creatingss excitement in the eclectic circles of Dubai, and is slated to be a parameter of excellence. Offering a capital opportunity for investment as also for an exclusive lifestyle to people from across the world.

Says Darshan Hiranandani, Director of the project "I foresee Dubai being the Monte Carlo of the world in a few years and our development has been designed to cater to that kind of clientele. 23 Marina is a combination of luxurious 2 & 3 BHK apartments and lavish duplexes, with an ocean view to relax the mind, body and soul. There are 24 storeys of duplex apartments each with a private plunge pool and an internal elevator. This concept is a first in Dubai. Also, minute attention has been paid to designing the breathtaking exterior glass façade and the 6-storey high entrance lobby and other state-of-the-art technology and posh amenities. The intention has been to create a seamless experience of beauty, aesthetics and luxury.'

Hircon International has appointed leading specialists in various aspects of design, such as conceptualization, landscaping, lighting, space planning, architectural and interior designing, engineering and construction. Three of the world's highly respected and world-renowned names in architecture and construction- KEO International Consultants, Hafeez Contractor and NASA Multiplex LLC have come together with their expertise and professionalism, further adding world-class standards to the project.

23 Marina is situated at the heart of the excitement of Dubai Marina quay, just a two-minute drive from Sheikh Zayed Road Dubai Marina Interchange. Jumeirah Palm will be five minutes away, as will the World Islands, Emirates Golf Course, the 7-star Burj al Arab and other elite hotels, and Dubai Marina Yacht Club is within walking distance.

[dubaiflo]

that sounds really great....!!
but nothing abt completion date...

[Krazy]

I wonder how they will fit 57 swimming pools in such a thin tower

[Dubai-Lover]

all these pool will be in the duplex suites in the top third of the tower

check the floor plans and you'll see every duplex suite has a pool on the balcony

[Krazy]

I wonder how big the balconies are then! :eek:

[Dubai-Lover]

rather small of course

the balconies are located at the edges of the tower

it looks fantastic though

check www.hircon-me.com and their pdf with floor plans

[dubaiflo]

watch the pdf it is amazing!!
those pools are pretty nice...but i wonder if it might be a little bit windy in 250m...

[Krazy]

just checked it out, it is pretty impressive!

[dubaiflo]

i am sure the pools will never be filled with water, as i suppose it will be blown away immediately actually...

[DUBAI]

I love the fact that in dubai we can let a 90 FLOOR TOWER slip onto the third page of a sub sub forum!

where else in the world and on which subforum could this happen?

[Dubai-Lover]

maybe you should add that this also will be the world's tallest residential tower
just a note by the side

strange
there still is a machine, some kind of a bulldozer on the site, but nobody uses it!

[DUBAI]

are you refering to the website [ssc] or the 23 marina site? :D


[i missed the WTR point!]

[R@ptor]

all these pool will be in the duplex suites in the top third of the tower...
...the balconies are located at the edges of the tower

I'm not an architect, but nonetheless I don't think this is possible. The weight of the water in all these pools at the edge of the tower will probably endanger the tower itself.

Let's just do a bit math. Well, I assume the pools will be quite small, for example 7.0m x 5.0m and 1.5m deep. That's 52.5m³ per pool. As we all know 1m³ can hold 1000 liters and the weight of 1 liter water is almost exactly 1kg. So there are 52500kg (52.5t) water in each pool.

As you said, there are 57! pools in this tower. 57 x 52.5 = 2992.5t!!!!

So there are almost 3000 tons of water on the balconies in the upper third of the tower. Sorry, but I don't think that's possible.

[DUBAI]

^its in all their add litrature, personaly however i think 5x7 is a little optimistic.

[Dubai-Lover]

oh, yes 5mx7m is way too much. this is 35sqm

make the pools 3mx2mx1m

the balconies are rather small

[AltinD]

^ That isn't a pool, that's a bathtab :D

[Trances]

its a personal pool

[DUBAI]

a 'plunge pool'...bacicly a big hot tub, which you can swim in and isnt hot!

[dubaiflo]

make the pool 3x1x1 , not more...
and i guess there will never be water inside ,because of the wind up there.
crappy idea. though it might attract buyers.

[AltinD]

^ Come on, don't act like you're not impressed by it!

[dubaiflo]

no honestly, i am not.ask juiced.

i don't even believe it will work properly.

[juiced]

Never impressed by Number 23 Marina and the pool idea sounds stupid, better to just have several big pools than a hundred little ones.

[dubaiflo]

wow , i agree with you.the 1st time. insane.

[AltinD]

Indeed.

[dubaiflo]

lol

[juiced]

wow , i agree with you.the 1st time. insane.

Perhaps you are finally becoming sane ;) And how the hell do you have 500 more posts than me? Where else do you post on this site? Spammer :D

[dubaiflo]

lol --> thats how it works

[juiced]

lol

[DUBAI]

i like this tower, apart from the top and the name.

the private pools are nice too, especialy if you have a sea view, imagine being 80 floors up, with the sun going down over the palm, as you look over from your pool!

[dubaiflo]

this is not a pool it is a puddle!!!
actually the name is ok, something different at least.

[juiced]

Well atleast they are luxury puddles not ordinary ones.

[Dubai-Lover]

23 marina, that's how they mainly name their towers in the usa
23 should be the house number then?

i agree, these can't be called pools, maybe these are jacuzzis at the same time :D
would make more sense!

[DUBAI]

where is this 23 coming from, its a little close to 1 to be number 23 isnt it?

what number is marina heights, or the grosvner?

[nezzybaby]

plunge pools: very very cold small pool for jumping into after a sauna/steam room... NOT FOR SWIMMING IN YOUD DIE.

I think in scandinavia plunge pools account for a very high percentage of deaths over 60. people jump in them and have a heart attack from the extreme temperature changes.

[AltinD]

"23" is part of the location plot number.

[malec]

plunge pools: very very cold small pool for jumping into after a sauna/steam room... NOT FOR SWIMMING IN YOUD DIE.

I think in scandinavia plunge pools account for a very high percentage of deaths over 60. people jump in them and have a heart attack from the extreme temperature changes.
Woah!!! :eek2: :eek2: And that's in Scandinavia.
Imagine the results in Dubai where the temperature difference would go from 50 to 0!!! But the pools wouldn't be that cold would they. Surely people would have more sense than that. :)

Anyway when's this tower due to start construction.

[dubaiflo]

the water in those pools, if there will be any inside anyway, will be 40 degrees.. ;)

[Chad]

I think it' a bit over scaled in this pic, is it?

http://www.findaproperty.com/copperstonesprops/p1400458.jpg

[Trances]

LOL i thnk so compared to Al Seef
it looks a twice as high

[malec]

It should be only half the height of what's shown there.

[Stephan23]

Your're right. Think so too.

The height is up to the second section of the tower I think.

When does it start??

[Dubai-Lover]

:rofl:
in this pic the tower is 3 times taller than al seef, hence 600m+

please cut off a big piece :D

[dubaiflo]

lol, "a bit overscaled" ... funny guy, you are...

[BigD]

I met the development staff of this building and they gave me a lot of updates about the building.

Firstly.... they are now commencing construction. We should see the excavator on site by September 10th and the piling rigs by September 20th. In fact, they're also saying that tower will be more than 380m tall. In fact, I saw a schematic that says it'll be 394m in their engineering team's office.

Secondly, the pools in the buildings have been advantageous for them. They said that it reduces the motion or 'sway' effect that people have. They are going to place a Tuned Mass Damper (The weight pendulum) on the top as well. The plunge pools will be heated and will be like a jacuzzi. They feel that people like to have parties near pools and don't really use their pools much. The building itself has 3 other massive swimming pools downstairs -- Outdoors as well as indoors.

The Name 23 Marina comes from plot No. 23D on Dubai Marina.

These guys have done research on everything. For e.g. - there are special elevators servicing the top 1/3rd of the building. These will travel at 8.0M/s. These will be at 8.0M/s only at peak hours, so that at non-peak hours people can travel without their ears popping. They did a study so that nobody waits more than 45secs for an elevator. Should be better than most of the towers of Sheikh Zayed Road.


The great news guys is that it's starting construction very soon. They said they are going to release ads giving us progress details very soon. You guys must go and visit their office in Emaar Business Park #4, Office 206. It is so cool.

[dazz]

thanks for the info BigD

mmmm 394meters, that sounds better

[malec]

Well, that's great news anyway. So 394m then. Why don't they add just another 6 :)

[Dubai-Lover]

that's indeed great news
it was supposed to start in may!

[dubaiflo]

little delay, as long as it now starts in sept.
394 is quite good. and seems like these guys know what they are talking abt.

[malec]

Model of the tower:

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7146/23marina3js.jpg

[Trances]

well strong news for a change
look forward to breaking ground

[minime]

I really like this tower development and wished I bought into this place. Not that I can afford it and I think the running costs of the tower will be quite high over time but I think 23 marina will really be a great place to live.

[dubaiflo]

why do you think so?

[minime]

Why do you think so?
I think so because of the jacuzi on the balcony, high speed elevators, proper facilities. A tower high enough to impress everyone. Living in 23 marina will be nice.... A little worried about the maintenance cost though....

[dubaiflo]

I think so because of the jacuzi on the balcony, high speed elevators, proper facilities. A tower high enough to impress everyone. Living in 23 marina will be nice.... A little worried about the maintenance cost though....

maintenance will be higher everywhere soon. but roughly the same everywhere too.
imo the jacuzzis are crap, can you imagine how windy it is at 300m?
though they might find a solution to make this work.
high speed elevators well shouldn't that be standart.
same abt the facilities.

[Trances]

but just as windly below in some cases
seem the wind storm that dubai can have image what it might be like in the scraper canyons around the marina.
But yes this would a quality tower !
Comparable to the how the current tallest res building (Q1) towers over the rest at the gold coast.

[minime]

But yes this would a quality tower !
Comparable to the how the current tallest res building (Q1) towers over the rest at the gold coast.
You are so aussie... It Hurts! :runaway:

[Dubai-Lover]

according to eta star this one has just started construction!
i bet it's not true :D

[malec]

Isn't it supposed to start this month anyway?

[Dubai-Lover]

we will see
i'll try to go on a marina tour next friday

i really am excited about if it will be on the plot we all think it will be on

[dubaiflo]

isn't that already confirmed by the map and the fenced area?

[Dubai-Lover]

yes
but it's a strange feeling to see the future world's tallest res tower starting construction :D

[dubaiflo]

ah come on you must be used to that superlatives

[AltinD]

The model from Citiscape 2005:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/P1000757.jpg

[Chad]

OMG...U r my hero, AltinD!!!

[dubaiflo]

lol they must have two models. because i saw one at an exhibition in hyatt in may, it had a totally different base and was glassed.

[Dubai-Lover]

http://tinypic.com/dr3vqo.jpg

[dubaiflo]

LOL

[malec]

Very good model. I used to hate the look of this tower but it looks much better here.

[AltinD]

BTW, they were saying that the construction has started.

[minime]

This will be a nice tower. I just feel it. :-)

[beiklopa]

the signboard is up and looks pretty cool and big :)

[SA BOY]

piling is under way so this is deffinatly U/C

[dubaiflo]

very good. another one.

[Stephan23]

so change status!!!

[Chad]

I just noticed that this building is the only supertall among those proposed/UC towers in Dubai that doesnt has it's own diagram....:(

[dubaiflo]

maybe dazz feels boring in the near future...

[AltinD]

I think I saw some white (mobile) cranes on the site from SZR today.

[malec]

What diagram?

[Chad]

I meant....skyscraperpage diagram...:D

[malec]

It does have a diagram actually but it's been categorised as on hold.
The torch, and the golden tower on SZR have no diagrams either. Actually, a lot of the supertalls approved and proposed have no diagrams either.

[Dubai-Lover]

sign board
http://tinypic.com/dxmhyf.jpg

[Dubai-Lover]

finally

http://tinypic.com/dxmhzo.jpg

[Chad]

wow....The site is pretty big!

[dubaiflo]

are they digging the hole?

[malec]

Construction has finally started on some of these supertalls

[AltinD]

Oct 1st

http://tinypic.com/e6sufd.jpg


A massive pile:

http://tinypic.com/e6sunq.jpg

[Chad]

wow....Updates!!!!

:cry:

[AltinD]

Damn, I couldn't find the thread for this tower neither in "News And Developments" nor in "Construcxtion Updates". I rememeber that we had one.

[minime]

Thanks for the updates! :)
Oct 1st

http://tinypic.com/e6sufd.jpg


A massive pile:

http://tinypic.com/e6sunq.jpg

[dubaiflo]

cannot find it either.
open a new one altin?

[Dubai-Lover]

today

http://tinypic.com/eas7f9.jpg

[dubaiflo]

let's get ready to ruuuuumble.... :D

[Dubai-Lover]

today

http://tinypic.com/ejymuw.jpg

[AltinD]

23/10/2005

http://tinypic.com/eurdau.jpg

http://tinypic.com/eurdw5.jpg

[dubaiflo]

huuuge site.what a mess.

[Krazy]

the board says 88 floors?

[Stephan23]

I think this one can start soon

[dubaiflo]

the board says 88 floors?

matter of counting again.

[Trances]

glad to see this !
the end of rein of mighty q1 hs began

[Pengui]

glad to see this !
the end of rein of mighty q1 hs began

LOL, you're saying this while Q1 was officially completed in the last few days ^ ^
Poor Q1 ;-)

[Jechtman]

Heh,... still... Patience is not one of my virtues.

[Citystyle]

I love Eureka and it's name is more to do with australian history than look im the tallest.

[Citystyle]

Will be intresting to see if small town australia can make a 400m tower to match these monsters.

[Dubai-Lover]

today

http://tinypic.com/fbjeph.jpg

[malec]

Is there any difference between this and the last update? I can't tell.

[Dubai-Lover]

today

http://tinypic.com/fuw4jt.jpg

[malec]

What's that core in the back?

[Dubai-Lover]

al jaber tower or shangri-la traders in media city

[BinDubai]

all i hate about this 1 is the name !

[CULWULLA]

good to see this baby up and running. ill have to add in pit and excavators to diagram.
cheers

[dubaiflo]

name is a bit boring but well it is plot 23 and maybe they will change the name when done.

[Krazy]

23 Marina, millionaire bonus

The 23 Marina tower will be the tallest residential building in the world on completion at the Dubai Marina with 90-storeys. And for its millionaire residences the developer is offering free use of a yacht, a Rolls Royce for airport pick-ups, home automation, separate elevators, three car parking spaces, a Jacuzzi on the terrace and two maid's rooms.

[Krazy]

So will Princess Tower beat 23 Marina for the tallest residential title??

[Stephan23]

Tallest residential tower to be in Dubai
5-Dec-2005

With the completion of 23 Marina with 90 storeys in 2008 Dubai will be witnessing another major leap in the real estate sector. Marina 23 will become the tallest residential building in the world situated at the beginning of Dubai Marina, overlooking the blue waters of the Arabian Gulf, Sheikh Zayed Road and Dubai Media City.
23 Marina Tower in Dubai

Hircon International LLC, the developer of this real estate development is presently offering free use of a yacht, a Rolls Royce for airport pick-ups, home automation, separate elevators, three car parking spaces, a Jacuzzi on the terrace and two maid's rooms for the residents.

The 380 meter high tower is an icon of exposed concrete and tinted blue glass, punctuated by podiums and balconies that contrast with the façade. 23 Marina offers an extraordinary experience of sophistication and elegance far above the waterfront marina.

The lobby of 23 Marina with a 6-storey high entrance is equipped with the best audiovisual facilities. The residential tower offers 2 and 3 bedroom apartments and duplexes with varying vistas ranging from ocean view to views of the city, marina and Jumeirah beach.

[malec]

A bit of competition here I see :cheers:
A big penis competition? :D

[Dubai-Lover]

well
it'll be completed before princess tower, which is next door just across the street :drool:

it might hold the title for half a year max

[beiklopa]

28.12.2005
http://tinypic.com/j98z21.jpg

[Stephan23]

Zumindest ein Loch hamma schon :-)

[dubaiflo]

now that one is starting really fast :eek:
compare to Princess :bash:

[Dubai-Lover]

i expected them to dig deeper
but this is obviously not going to happen?
that's only 3-4 m

[dubaiflo]

well the hole for emirates crown was not that deep as well.
it depends, for example the marina pinnacle has a huge one,

underground parking, while this one does not need it obviously.

giles would be the better person to answer this
but where is the need in digging that deep if you don't need it actually,
as long as the piles are some 40m deep?

[GoDubai!]

DMC welcomes 23 Marina fans to view the latest addition to the Dubai Marina tower coverage, 23 Marina (http://marinacomm.blogspot.com/2006/01/23-marina.html). It is a very comprehensive post including graphics, detailed info and commentary.

[beiklopa]

today
http://tinypic.com/js0i2o.jpg

[Dubai-Lover]

excavation completed
ready for piling
this is the speed we all need!

[Jechtman]

Good, good.
23 Marina will be great.

[GoDubai!]

It doesn't seem the excavation is deep enough. I think this tower is supposed to have 8 floors of parking. I suppose it will be mostly above ground, thus the 6-storey entrance lobby. But for a building that will be much taller than Marina Pinnacle, the pit seems less than half as deep.

[Jechtman]

You mean this is the final excavation??
Huh? This is too shalow.