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Dubai-Lover
March 16th, 2005, 10:39 PM
some spectacular news today
on march 22 eta star properties will launch a new 90 floor tower called 23 marina.
the height is 389m

at least eureka will hold the title for 3 years

here's a render of 23 marina

http://207.44.228.232/photopost/data//500/223_Marina.jpg

Grollo
March 16th, 2005, 11:30 PM
How predictable was that? :-) I think in five years time Eureka eill be lucky to still be in the top 5, with nearly all of the top ten, (except for Eureka and Q1) in Dubai.

CULWULLA
March 16th, 2005, 11:42 PM
faaarrrkkk!!!
whats its height without spire?
at 90 floors, does Eureka still have most floors?
cheers

SUNNI
March 16th, 2005, 11:45 PM
but not as good looking as the eureka or the q1

dubaiflo
March 16th, 2005, 11:58 PM
dennis, that is bad :)
i like this one...i guess more than Q1 but not more than eureka...

pottebaum
March 17th, 2005, 12:09 AM
I'm not crazy about the design, but good for Duabi.

nsn
March 17th, 2005, 02:48 AM
That thing is UGLY!

Ellatur
March 17th, 2005, 02:49 AM
im getting sick of these monstrous dubai projects..
im thinking its like a bubble now.. about to pop in like 20~30 years or so

zulu69
March 17th, 2005, 07:28 AM
What do you guys think then about the Eureka spire? i mean whats the point of spoiling such a beautiful building when it wont make it the tallest?? Does 3 yrs justify it? What are your thoughts.
I am really undecided myself. I love the crown and the building. For me its nicer than Q1 (from actual photo's). But i respect the fact that Melb wants the tallest title award, so i can see why they want a spire.

@Ellatur the bubble will burst when they either get bored or run out of oil. So im think boredom will be sooner ;)

dubaiflo
March 17th, 2005, 01:47 PM
"run out of oil"

nothing will change when that happens in about 30 years time. as oil makes only 9 per cent of dubai's GDP , and the figure is coming down about 1.3 per cent every year...

Perth4life05
March 17th, 2005, 02:33 PM
im so sick of dubai, trying to steal all the titles, there projects dont get me excited because there building everything at once and there will be no older buildings, i hate dubai!!!

Wezza
March 17th, 2005, 02:43 PM
Dubai..........Meh. lol

CULWULLA
March 17th, 2005, 02:56 PM
heres a really quick diagram showing progressive tallest resi towers since 2003.
the 23 marina is a only a guestimate on what it looks like from the small render. not sure about roof height ect. but gives you idea.

http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6389/worldstop46oj.jpg

Perth4life05
March 17th, 2005, 02:59 PM
thats one big fucker of a spire on the new dubai one.

skiesthelimit
March 17th, 2005, 05:46 PM
Cul, I don't think the spire would be that long?! I dunno, just looks out of proportion!

Arunava
March 17th, 2005, 11:49 PM
im so sick of dubai, trying to steal all the titles, there projects dont get me excited because there building everything at once and there will be no older buildings, i hate dubai!!!
How mature.

CULWULLA
March 18th, 2005, 12:07 AM
yeah maybe spire is lower. i really need heights to work with, so far just a render looking up.lol but i tried to work out 90 resi floors and its only 270m to roof? so i upped it a bit but maybe floors are generous heights? 3.5m?
anyway ill amend when plans are available.

zulu69
March 18th, 2005, 06:49 AM
"run out of oil"

nothing will change when that happens in about 30 years time. as oil makes only 9 per cent of dubai's GDP , and the figure is coming down about 1.3 per cent every year...

I know Dudai was smart in diversifying their assests. But the bulk of the wealth did/comes from oil.

fro
March 18th, 2005, 07:45 AM
ugly, but tall... same can be said for Eureka... oops, did i say that? :lol:

Go Dubai GO!

invincible
March 18th, 2005, 09:44 AM
"run out of oil"

nothing will change when that happens in about 30 years time. as oil makes only 9 per cent of dubai's GDP , and the figure is coming down about 1.3 per cent every year...

Losing an industry that accounts for 9% of GDP isn't going to be nice on an economy.

Blabbyboy
March 19th, 2005, 01:24 AM
dubai schmubai. boring designs, poor taste. show me a dubai project that i can get excited about - haven't seen one yet.

Texcoco
March 19th, 2005, 05:18 AM
man that's homely... eureka and, to a lesser extent, q1 are architecural stunners.

Luke~Elijah
March 20th, 2005, 03:43 PM
It doesnt matter how tall all these new towers in Dubai are coz they all look shithouse anyway, Eureka kills them all hands down!

redstar
March 21st, 2005, 07:50 AM
Does any suspect that Dubai is actually run by terrorists who are doing all this crazy stuff to piss off the world by their skyscraper marvels? I'd like to see America invade and see what happens.

zulu69
March 21st, 2005, 08:12 AM
^ dude dont be jealous..... Its not like they don't have the right to build scrapers.

salamagd
March 21st, 2005, 09:35 AM
What do you guys think then about the Eureka spire? i mean whats the point of spoiling such a beautiful building when it wont make it the tallest?? Does 3 yrs justify it? What are your thoughts.
I am really undecided myself. I love the crown and the building. For me its nicer than Q1 (from actual photo's). But i respect the fact that Melb wants the tallest title award, so i can see why they want a spire.

Also, I think a major reason for the mast is the observation deck, and more importantly, the extra $ for the communication equipment rental space. It is important to remember that people like us, who actually care about the heights of buildings, are in the minority :)

Wezza
March 21st, 2005, 10:22 AM
I've always wondered about what sort of condition all these new scrapers are going to be in after a few decades? I mean, with the harsh conditions over there. They would be copping dust storm after dust storm. Surely it can't be good for them?

Blue_Copper
March 21st, 2005, 11:01 AM
dubia is just rushing into this buildins who care there not memorable or impacting

zulu69
March 21st, 2005, 01:34 PM
Also, I think a major reason for the mast is the observation deck, and more importantly, the extra $ for the communication equipment rental space. It is important to remember that people like us, who actually care about the heights of buildings, are in the minority :)

lol thats true :)

Dubai-Lover
March 21st, 2005, 02:25 PM
it'S official


Hircon JV to build 90-storey Dubai Marina tower

Leading Dubai property developer ETA Star is teaming up with the designer of some of region's most sought-after communities to erect a tower destined to become one of Dubai Marina's most impressive landmarks.


Hircon LLC, ETA Star's joint venture with India's Hiranandani Developers Pte. Ltd., is to build a 90-storey edifice, to be known as '23 Marina'.

By linking up with ETA Star, Hiranandani, creator of one of Mumbai's most desirable residential addresses at Hiranandani Gardens in Powai, is consolidating its moves into international markets. In addition to this, its second major Marina project, ETA Star has several other projects under way at Jumeirah Lake Towers and Dubai International Financial Centre.

Towering to 380 metres, 23 Marina encompasses 48 exclusive duplex apartments on the top floors of the 90 storey tower. Each duplex promises a regal way of living with unique features such as independent elevator, open-to-air swimming pool, and private Jacuzzi. Detail to elegance is reflected right from the majestic lobby with a 6 storey entrance hall with advanced facilities, to the magnificent podium exterior design. The residents can enjoy the pleasures of a 5-star health spa, landscaped garden and jogging track, indoor and outdoor temperature controlled pools, children's pool, bubble bath and spas at 3 levels of the tower.

'The ETA-ASCON Group has been bringing expertise in the field of construction and project management to the United Arab Emirates for over three decades. The company was constantly looking for ways to leverage its expertise, and as a result, a new company called ETA Star Property Developers L.L.C. was formed to focus on freehold property development in Dubai's booming real estate market,' said Abid A. Junaid, Executive Director, ETA Star properties.

'ETA Star has been quick to make its move on the local construction scene with projects in advanced stages of development in the Jumeirah Lake Towers, Dubai International Financial Centre and Dubai Marina developments. Furthermore, we are confident that with the launch of 23 Marina project, ETA Star will further strengthen its position in Dubai's property marketplace. This tie-up is brimming with potential and expertise, bringing together the experience and professionalism that are the hallmarks of both companies,' added Junaid.

'I foresee Dubai being the Monte Carlo of the world in a few years and our development has been designed to cater to that kind of clientele. We believe that representing India in Dubai at this juncture is the beginning of an experiment to build better communities beyond India's borders. We quickly settled on a joint venture with ETA Star Properties of Dubai because of their ties to India and look forward to a long-lasting and fruitful partnership,' said Darshan Hiranandani, Director of HIRCON LLC.

23 Marina will be situated in the heart of the excitement of Dubai Marina quay, just a two-minute drive from Sheikh Zayed Road Dubai Marina Interchange. Jumeirah Palm will be five minutes away, as will the World Islands, Emirates Golf Course, the 7-star Burj al Arab and other elite hotels, and Dubai Marina Yacht Club is within walking distance.

'Spacious apartments and lavish duplexes come with an ocean view to relax the mind, body and soul. There are 26 storeys of duplex apartments each with a private plunge pool. This concept is a first in Dubai. Also, minute attention has been paid to designing the breathtaking exterior glass façade, while equal care has been taken to introduce state-of-art technology and posh amenities. The intention has been to create a seamless experience of beauty, aesthetics and luxury,' concluded Darshan.

Dubai-Lover
March 21st, 2005, 02:59 PM
and another render

http://www.tradearabia.com/source/2005-03/21/ETA.jpg

RADULA
March 21st, 2005, 05:34 PM
As soon as I entered this thread all I noticed was obvious jealousy and snobbyness, sounds really insecure and pathetic. It just goes to show how much Australians suffer from the tall poppy sydrome.


eureka and, to a lesser extent, q1 are architecural stunners.

lol, not sure whether that is complimentary or an insulting towards q1. If you mean with eureka including that radio mast, then its definately insulting.

OzAsian
March 22nd, 2005, 12:29 AM
The big E will be the tallest building in Australia for a very long time dont forget the Rialto held the crown for nearly 20 years.

CULWULLA
March 22nd, 2005, 03:24 AM
so 380m not 389m? 389m must of been height about sea level?
ive just scaled pic-
width of tower-40m
height to first plantlevel-110m
height to 2nd plantlevel-210m
height to base of cone- 293m or top of 90th floor
height to base of spire-348m
height to spire-380m

now i can draw up a more detail diagram.

Blue_Copper
March 22nd, 2005, 03:30 AM
The big E will be the tallest building in Australia for a very long time dont forget the Rialto held the crown for nearly 20 years.

^^^Never say never just look at freedom tower.

CULWULLA
March 22nd, 2005, 04:17 AM
heres diagram showing Eureka & Q1.

http://img240.exs.cx/img240/2153/23marinaeurekaq18ao.jpg

rob_
March 22nd, 2005, 05:16 AM
is it my eyes or is the on in dubai little shorter to the roof bit then eureka?

zulu69
March 22nd, 2005, 06:27 AM
Dubai is definately going to have one of the most impressive skylines...i really can't wait for all of them to get built.

Wezza
March 22nd, 2005, 11:39 AM
is it my eyes or is the on in dubai little shorter to the roof bit then eureka?
Its roof is lower than Eurekas. Maybe we could get back to the good old tallest to roof or tallest to spire debate again? ;)

zulu69
March 22nd, 2005, 01:33 PM
^ im sure Dubai or somewhere else would build something taller to roof as well (but the cone shape is roof isnt it?) Neway 'Worlds tallest" is meaningless nowadays. Buildings like the SOH have shown that design is a far greater quality.

RADULA
March 22nd, 2005, 06:37 PM
For some reason I keep thinking that building would look really cool in sydney!

Trances
April 5th, 2005, 03:17 PM
Yet another tall res for Dubai
this time over 100 floors
its not approved like the others just is preposed

Residential Tower 6B+G+110Typ.
http://www.dimensions-ec.com/News/main.htm

http://www.dimensions-ec.com/News/Image/04.jpg

Erektion
April 5th, 2005, 04:24 PM
Everyone seems to be having their 2 cents worth so here's mine...
There's no question that the heights of buildings going up in dubai at the moment are quite amazing. In fact, I don't recall any other city in the world to ever have so much construction at any one time. What a fantastic opportunity that lays before them!!!
Can anyone tell me whether all these buildings are being constucted in a downtown area or cbd? If not and they're built all over the place, then I think they lose their appeal. I believe it's the dense view of a city from a distance (in particular) that gives the best impression (think NYC and even Sydney)...and then of course you have to break it further down to the quality of architecture.
I'm a big believer that cities who take time in meticulous town planning and designing buildings end up with better results.
I hope for Dubai's sake it's not a case of excess?
(It's just like how Rose Hancock built that grotesque home in Perth. All about size and little thought into a lasting design...it's now currently under demolition.)
In terms of Eureka and Q1...well they're both very different yet quality buildings nonetheless. I'm proud they're both Aussie buildings and sit well in their landscapes. I think we'll all be very happily surprised once fully completed.
I think that was more like 20 cents! :p

invincible
April 5th, 2005, 05:57 PM
From what I've noticed, a lot of developments have huge plots of land and huge podiums and not much emphasis on the street.

Feel free to correct me, but that's all I can see from renders. The size of the site for Burj Dubai is obscene, while other cities are wanting to consolidate sites for development, Dubai should probably be looking at dividing some of their sites. I mean, look at the distance of that tower two posts above this one to the street (it's got its own driveway). 23 Marina seems to be alright though, even if the podium looks like a nuclear bunker.

Trances
April 5th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Well there are two area
Dubai Marina which is going up is completly new area. It is a series of small cannels right near the beach. This is All res and has close to 100 Plots. Behind that is 79 Plots of JLT this is mixed development both office and res. Again a new development. These are located with not that much around them right now. On Side is a huge Tech Park Know as Dubai Internet City and Dubai Media City that its self is getting many res and Business towers. ANd just a few K down the road towards the orginal city is The Palm.

Map of the Marina where the new tall res towes will be
21 C is on SZR city
http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/orig_sorted.gif

Trances
April 5th, 2005, 10:27 PM
So the two main areas are Marina Area and SZR + Burj Dubai Down town + DIFC and a few other asorted towers going up every where eles. But then that just the current under construction in about 6 months there will be about 10 new sites to much going to get your head around even if you live there.

Link to map of area
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/mj792/DXB-metro-lines.jpg

aussiescraperman
April 6th, 2005, 10:00 AM
i just don't like cities like dubai..they have no history and they just build all of their buildings at the same time...that's why their is no density in the city, jus tbug gaps :bash: . I think UAE should fix up the rest of its country before building a wannbe city.

Perth4life05
April 6th, 2005, 12:45 PM
this building doesnt look very thick.

SkylineTurbo
April 6th, 2005, 12:55 PM
"run out of oil"

nothing will change when that happens in about 30 years time. as oil makes only 9 per cent of dubai's GDP , and the figure is coming down about 1.3 per cent every year...
Exactly, and the UAE have basically prepared for the time when oil runs out.

Perth4life05
April 6th, 2005, 12:57 PM
sad, i think DUBAI wants attention, very tri-hardish city!

Wezza
April 6th, 2005, 01:17 PM
I actually like the look of that new tower proposed for Dubai. Its got a kinda Q1-ish top on it. Pity its not in Australia though! :)

Dubai-Lover
April 6th, 2005, 01:29 PM
i just don't like cities like dubai..they have no history and they just build all of their buildings at the same time...that's why their is no density in the city, jus tbug gaps :bash: . I think UAE should fix up the rest of its country before building a wannbe city.

what a comment
no idea of anything but dissing everything
the only thing you know about dubai is how to spell it

zulu69
April 7th, 2005, 07:39 AM
^ i wouldn't mind them. Its simply a case of jealousy. Congrats on all the very exciting developments in your city, you guys are leading the world in that dept, which is amazing considering the competition.

Trances
April 11th, 2005, 12:46 PM
the site is up for 23 Marina
http://www.hircon-me.com/
at 380 meters

Blue_Copper
April 11th, 2005, 01:41 PM
^zulu i would chalange that statement ...but i believe its more of an opinion ;)

SA BOY
April 13th, 2005, 12:24 PM
well another approved yesterday, finally we are staring to get towers over 100f with the first residentail tower at 110F released. This looks like 400m plus and is not as beautiful as the big E.

Trances
April 13th, 2005, 01:38 PM
easy enough to top the towers in height
other factors are much harder

Dilaz89
April 13th, 2005, 03:15 PM
are theere any planning rules whatsovever in this city?

Trances
April 13th, 2005, 03:24 PM
basiclly you gotta be able to buy the plot of land

DamienK
April 13th, 2005, 05:57 PM
The top of that tower reminds me of a Pharoh's crown.

CULWULLA
April 14th, 2005, 01:25 AM
yeah pretty incredible.110f? looks 400m?
http://www.dimensions-ec.com/News/Image/04.jpg

Trances
April 14th, 2005, 01:38 AM
could do with a bigger spire to add to it features and push up its height

SA BOY
April 14th, 2005, 10:02 AM
poor cul, the top 10 residential towers keep changing almost monthly these days. I wonder what it will look like in 2010?

Wezza
April 14th, 2005, 12:27 PM
Approvals seem to only take a matter of days in Dubai!

CULWULLA
April 28th, 2005, 08:00 AM
poor cul, the top 10 residential towers keep changing almost monthly these days. I wonder what it will look like in 2010?
yes i know, i want it just slow down for a minute so i can take it all in, and draw up a nice diagram. i know what 2005 worlds tallest will look like. but 2006,2007 and even 2008 wont change much. 2009 is when all these beuaties will come on line, so that will be an incredible time.

CULWULLA
October 14th, 2005, 06:12 AM
another all residential taller then Eureka. the 82storey 300m Plantarium tower planned for panama City/
so many now are going to be higher then 300m.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/albrook/planet2.jpg

DrDan
October 14th, 2005, 07:47 AM
hmm, that panama tower has features similar to eureka: blue and white stripes and what appears to be a crown with gold glass in it?

thunder head
October 14th, 2005, 08:23 AM
damn dubai trying to HOG all the glory

Grollo
October 14th, 2005, 09:09 AM
Eureka started the trend so even when it's not the tallest it can still be called ground breaking :-)

sakor1
October 15th, 2005, 01:50 AM
That Panama twin must be thin as, looks way taller than 300m in that perspective!

Stu

redbaron_012
October 15th, 2005, 08:31 AM
How many buildings pass Eureka by number of levels? 92 ?

Jase Calvin
October 15th, 2005, 08:35 AM
Judging from that rendering, the Panamanian scraper looks ugly.

The Dubai one looks similar to the BofA in Atlanta:
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/585/7103leaving-atlanta.jpg

Locke
October 15th, 2005, 10:03 AM
Dubai is incredible aye. I heard Nakheel were considering building a 1 mile tower! That would make even the Burj Dubai look small! Amazing vision!

Adam from Oz
October 15th, 2005, 01:08 PM
yeah pretty incredible.110f? looks 400m?
http://www.dimensions-ec.com/News/Image/04.jpg

Um, CALLING DR FREUD!

Look at this! A cylindrical shaft with a labia-like opening! Not even subtle! Where do the batteries go?

EDIT: Here's the 336m, 89 storey, Palacio de la Bahia in Panama City.
http://www.palaciobahia.com/04palacio/galeria0/grandes/01.jpg

In how many languages do you know the word "YUCK!"? Also has a hotel, though.


Cheers,

Adam

Citystyle
October 26th, 2005, 08:18 AM
I love it. Dont forget the princess tower, it know has 107 floors.

Before It had not counting spire. 340/90= 3.77777777

3.77777777 x 107= 404m

Add the spire it could go to 440m tall give or take. WOW.

Rev
October 26th, 2005, 09:08 AM
The tower for Dubai on the first page isnt too attractive. Not being a biased Aussie now, but Q1 and Eureka look much more attractive.

zach24
October 26th, 2005, 03:27 PM
has the spire on eureka been approved or decided to be build? so Q1 is still the tallest? - i think so

sakor1
October 27th, 2005, 07:14 AM
^^^ Spire is a no go for at least the forseeable future, so Q1 will officially be the tallest.

Stu

GMAC
October 27th, 2005, 08:28 AM
It has to be said that none of these look as nice as Eureka or Q1.

Citystyle
October 27th, 2005, 09:53 AM
[Quote] It has to be said that none of these look as nice as Eureka or Q1.[Quote/]

I would wait till they are complete before final judgment. Just remember international members dont always like Q1 or Eureka.

renell
October 28th, 2005, 09:23 AM
Well I've been only living in Australia, I'd say Q1 kicks whatever this building's ass so bad. I don't know about Eureka.. its spire scares me

lozza
October 31st, 2005, 03:13 AM
Well I've been only living in Australia, I'd say Q1 kicks whatever this building's ass so bad. I don't know about Q1.. its spire scares me

Renell, you are a dickhead ! lol !

Lozza

renell
October 31st, 2005, 10:59 AM
just close your eyes everytime you pass by that post :tongue2:

i'm not a hater of it, everything below the tip of the gold stuff is well... gold (ps i've edited it.

lozza
November 3rd, 2005, 07:45 AM
just close your eyes everytime you pass by that post :tongue2:

i'm not a hater of it, everything below the tip of the gold stuff is well... gold (ps i've edited it.

Renell, when you are 50 years old, u will have written a book, and it will be titled:

"I was a Dick Head! " lol !

Cheers

Lozza

Collin
November 4th, 2005, 03:28 AM
Renell, when you are 50 years old, u will have written a book, and it will be titled:

"I was a Dick Head! " lol !

Cheers

Lozza

"WAS"??


lol. I kid. ;)

malec
November 12th, 2005, 08:34 PM
I think Dubai may get some serious competition from Panama city soon. Just found out that the 102F Ice tower will be all res. It seems like over there, supertalls are popping up by the day and I won't be surprised if we hear of a 110F res next week.

STR
November 12th, 2005, 09:03 PM
^Yeah, but have you seen those towers? Even the ugliest structure in Dubai looks as good or better than those.

LeCom
November 12th, 2005, 09:36 PM
heres a really quick diagram showing progressive tallest resi towers since 2003.
the 23 marina is a only a guestimate on what it looks like from the small render. not sure about roof height ect. but gives you idea.

http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6389/worldstop46oj.jpg
Is TWT in New York the only tallest residential without a spire?

salamagd
November 13th, 2005, 12:07 AM
Is TWT in New York the only tallest residential without a spire?

Well, it's looking increasingly likely that Eureka won't get its mast after all, so it may not be.

zach24
November 13th, 2005, 11:05 AM
I really doubt it either- if u owned an apartment in there - would u want some hideous steel structure on top of your building? I’m sure that the owners of the apartments would have to approve it - if it wasn’t planned to begin with

MILIUX
November 14th, 2005, 04:24 AM
We're talking about Dubai. They'll do anything to rejuvinate their ego.

shrewd.user
November 14th, 2005, 04:49 AM
dubai will probably have the tallest of any class of building built there i'd say... i'm not sure exactly why theyre letting this boom go out of control like they are... theyre going to be hit very hard by an economic downturn and it's not going to be pretty.....

Citystyle
November 14th, 2005, 08:39 AM
Well princess tower should be 440m tall and other tower's are are trying to win WT resi, so expect huge heights.

thunder head
November 15th, 2005, 04:08 AM
yeah Dubai are just bloody tryhards trying to become a world class city in the middle of nowhere by embarking on a mission to steal the title of tallest, largest, longest biggest of everything from other cities. It would be funny if they had an economic downturn, it'll teach 'em a lesson!

Arunava
November 15th, 2005, 04:16 AM
yeah Dubai are just bloody tryhards trying to become a world class city in the middle of nowhere by embarking on a mission to steal the title of tallest, largest, longest biggest of everything from other cities. It would be funny if they had an economic downturn, it'll teach 'em a lesson!
Yeah, because poverty is so funny.
The UAE (and in particular Dubai) is undertaking so many large projects exactly because they know an economic downturn isn't far away, especially with oil running out. They're diversifying their economy so that the lack of oil won't result in economic collapse...they have the resources now to be able to prepare for the future, so it makes sense that they're doing it now.

mic
November 15th, 2005, 05:05 AM
I really doubt it either- if u owned an apartment in there - would u want some hideous steel structure on top of your building? I’m sure that the owners of the apartments would have to approve it - if it wasn’t planned to begin with

Yes soo soo true...

Locke
November 15th, 2005, 12:17 PM
The thing with the mast on Eureka is, it's telecommunications right, so that's gonna be like livin beneath some power lines. They are going to jampack it with highpower telco gear that is going to be beaming through you and your penthouse 24-7. I wouldn't want my apartment anywhere near it, next thing you know you are shooting blanks or something!;) Like take Santos in Adelaide, you are only allowed on the roof for like 20 mins, so screw that, if I were a resident I'd be against it.

Citystyle
November 15th, 2005, 12:26 PM
Looking at the lame dubai bashes is really sad.

thunder head
November 15th, 2005, 09:35 PM
^just for your enjoyment, Dubai has a "I'm better than every other city on the planet" attitude. It's so easy to tell. It's like a plain model getting ton's and ton's of plastic surgery in an attempt to look better than a naturally beautiful model.

shrewd.user
November 16th, 2005, 01:32 AM
i'm sure dubai's an ok place, we'll have to see whether their economy can support what theyre doing.....

Arunava
November 16th, 2005, 01:41 AM
^just for your enjoyment, Dubai has a "I'm better than every other city on the planet" attitude. It's so easy to tell. It's like a plain model getting ton's and ton's of plastic surgery in an attempt to look better than a naturally beautiful model.
I didn't realise cities could have attitudes...
It's just you and your insecurities. You've shown in numerous threads that you are very good at assuming without having any facts, and are obviously not willing to change your mind regarding anything.

thunder head
November 16th, 2005, 02:18 AM
yeah so what? it's my theory so take that

salamagd
November 16th, 2005, 02:51 AM
yeah so what? it's my theory so take that

Are you 12 or something?

thunder head
November 16th, 2005, 02:56 AM
guess again

zach24
November 16th, 2005, 02:55 PM
the building is fine the way it is - its nice - dont stuff it up for some stupid im bigger than you mentality!

Fair enough Q1 is 'officially' taller - but dont stuff eurkea up because of that!

Arunava
November 16th, 2005, 03:11 PM
guess again
OK... 5?

malec
November 16th, 2005, 09:09 PM
Just to tell you guys:

According to SA Boy who works with this sort of stuff, that cylindrical 110F res tower in Dubai has been cancelled. That still leaves al ameera tower though which is 107F.

thunder head
November 16th, 2005, 11:11 PM
OK... 5?
no, that's the number of times you blow Bracksy in an hour DICKHEAD

alderson
December 3rd, 2005, 01:17 PM
no, that's the number of times you blow Bracksy in an hour DICKHEAD
Thats a lot of blows , I thought this was a skyscraper discussion not a personal slanging match

aussie2000
December 11th, 2005, 08:19 AM
whats dubai, is this some city or something i've never heard of it, till now obviously

Lightning~Bolt
December 11th, 2005, 10:09 AM
Dubai is a arab nation, it gets shitloads of money from it's one big export, black gold (no, not coal) Oil.

Lightning~Bolt
December 11th, 2005, 10:11 AM
and also, the country is influenced massively by the west, although being a muslim country, it has adopted many western traditions.

salamagd
December 11th, 2005, 11:11 AM
Dubai is a big city in the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

malec
December 11th, 2005, 02:03 PM
^^ 2nd city actually

Abu Dhabi's the capital.
Dubai is not as large but almost. Should overtake it in terms of population soon though.

salamagd
December 11th, 2005, 02:09 PM
Heh, don't I look silly :)

Mind you, being the political capital doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with actually being a large, important flagship city within the country. We Aussies should know all about that :)

Saif
December 22nd, 2005, 12:43 PM
CULWULLA you should add princess tower to your diagram its under construction 107 floors 400+ meters for sure.

a week ago i met a sale representative in Emirates Mall who told me that appartments are for sale and the building is under construction.
:)

CULWULLA
December 22nd, 2005, 11:51 PM
^yes i added it a while back. see here> next to Burj Dubai
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4005/worldstallestupdateddec17ed.jpg

KJBrissy
February 9th, 2006, 04:10 PM
The big E will be the tallest building in Australia for a very long time dont forget the Rialto held the crown for nearly 20 years.

The rumour mill is yelling that developers on the GC will be proposing Q2, the Transit Centre and "the Rolls Royce of all buildings" all expected to be taller than Q1.

salamagd
February 10th, 2006, 02:25 AM
The rumour mill is yelling that developers on the GC will be proposing Q2, the Transit Centre and "the Rolls Royce of all buildings" all expected to be taller than Q1.

When we start to see some concrete proposals coming through, we'll start to get a bit worried ;) :runaway:

Grollo
February 10th, 2006, 04:04 AM
Yes and Melbourne has the Spencer Street Power Station Tower, the Age site Tower and the former CUB site at the top of swanston Street tower all of which will be taller than Eureka :-)

A r c h i
February 10th, 2006, 04:47 AM
^^:D:D:D

Locke
February 10th, 2006, 05:02 AM
It's a walk-off, it's a walk-off!
http://www.tvdance.com/zoolander/5a.gif http://www.tvdance.com/zoolander/7a.gif

A r c h i
February 10th, 2006, 05:04 AM
^"Them's fightin' words." :D

SA BOY
February 23rd, 2006, 09:19 AM
The rumour mill is yelling that developers on the GC will be proposing Q2, the Transit Centre and "the Rolls Royce of all buildings" all expected to be taller than Q1.
Sunland are doing "D1" its a bigger version of Q1 in Dubai and will be identical except its bigger

Mr Centrepoint
February 23rd, 2006, 09:33 AM
Oh my god why won't dubai piss off and make freeways and train stations instead? They always have to have the biggest buildings to make up for having the smallest dicks. :jk:

Locke
February 23rd, 2006, 09:38 AM
Yeah I mentioned D1 (Dubai One) a few months back in the Q1 thread but no one believed me, is it a go-er then is it? Kinda bummed it will be bigger than Q1, but I suppose it 's a good sign for when Q2 comes around:P

Mr Centrepoint
February 23rd, 2006, 09:49 AM
Only Q2 can save us from those show off dubai siders!

Citystyle
February 23rd, 2006, 10:46 AM
Only Q2 can save us from those show off dubai siders!

It could do if it has roof hight of 400m+ or a spire hight of 440m+ but i doubt that.

Mr Centrepoint
February 23rd, 2006, 10:53 AM
You never know... I thought Q1 would never happen.

malec
February 26th, 2006, 02:57 AM
Another candidate for the WTRB:

http://i1.tinypic.com/ojdt1k.jpg

BTW, I think they forgot to finish the render when doing the spire :D

Curtain
February 28th, 2006, 06:03 AM
There are now 3 residential towers under construction in Dubai taller than Q1,
2 taller than Eureka including its mast, to be completed by 2008/2009.

un-named DAMAC tower @~400m rumoured 441m, approved
Princess @ 400m+ - under construction
23 Marina @ 395m - under construction
The Torch @ 345m - under construction
Infinity @ 330m - approved
Ocean Heights @ 310m - under construction
MAG Tower @ 275m - under construction

thunder head
February 28th, 2006, 07:41 AM
so they found out about the Eureka mast. So they must now build taller. Ego-tastic bastards

Mr Centrepoint
February 28th, 2006, 07:52 AM
I really think osama and his friends will target all those buildings. Or maybe since they're rushing all these buildings one could fall down like one of the terminals at the airport.

SA BOY
February 28th, 2006, 08:27 AM
There are now 3 residential towers under construction in Dubai taller than Q1,
2 taller than Eureka including its mast, to be completed by 2008/2009.

un-named DAMAC tower @~400m rumoured 441m, approved
Princess @ 400m+ - under construction
23 Marina @ 395m - under construction
The Torch @ 345m - under construction
Infinity @ 330m - under construction :) :)
Ocean Heights @ 310m - under construction
MAG Tower @ 275m - under construction
UPDATE-as of yesterday Infinity was hoarded up and there were pilling rigs on site, so technically its U/C

SA BOY
February 28th, 2006, 08:29 AM
I really think osama and his friends will target all those buildings. Or maybe since they're rushing all these buildings one could fall down like one of the terminals at the airport.
mate you talk the biggest shit I have ever heard why dont you go back down your xenophobic hole and let the adults talk

SA BOY
February 28th, 2006, 08:38 AM
so they found out about the Eureka mast. So they must now build taller. Ego-tastic bastards
wasent the big E mast an egotistic attempt at the tallest after Q1 beat them?

thunder head
February 28th, 2006, 08:39 AM
that's 1 mast. Dubai want 3 whole buildings to beat Eureka.

SA BOY
February 28th, 2006, 08:50 AM
its not a matter of wanting to beat E, its matter of economics and if we can build tall buildings to maximise retuns then why not?the market is supporting it and most if not all these towers are sold out before construction begins, unlike E and some of the other Aussie resi towers that have unsold units after completion.This is why Dubai will continue to push upwards and at the end of the day dubai is only competing with itself for tallest tower, tallest hotel, tallest residential

Arunava
February 28th, 2006, 08:56 AM
Really, can't something be done about the twin idiots?

thunder head
February 28th, 2006, 12:31 PM
^^^No, My best mate Mr Centrepoint and I are here to stay. So bad luck dude, if you don't like it go eat some ants.

Lord Melbourne
February 28th, 2006, 04:02 PM
What's next Dubai ? The world's tallest mausoleum ? Shit I've probably given someone an idea. It'll be in the foreign section in a coupla days . I can foresee many many Japanese tourists visiting Dubai clicking away, windsurfing ,snowskiing , patting penguins in "Antarctiland" or they may settle for something more familiar "Japanyfeelyland" where geisha waitresses serve you complimentary sushi from atop camels.

I think it's reality check time Dubai . If you don't stop now the new word for tacky will be Dubai ! :) :)

Icanseeformiles
March 1st, 2006, 02:54 AM
dubai-shubai...who cares!?

Citystyle
March 1st, 2006, 04:01 AM
^^^No, My best mate Mr Centrepoint and I are here to stay. So bad luck dude, if you don't like it go eat some ants.



For god sake your over raction to everything AKA: OZMG they are copying the big E and Q1. How come it's so hard to accept that they are building a future for themselves after oil and you complain they are cheap and copying, there is no place as original as Dubai but some how creating wealth and prosperity for there own nation is not allowed for arab nations. They could and should and will represent a better middle east with peace and prosperity and you talk bullshit all fucking day long, for what? Is it constructive No it’s absolute tripe and very offensive.

Who gives a shite if they put other city’s skyline in a god damn render it's not about the skyline it's about the building and them selling it, someone shaping themselves a identity of there own is negative and wanting to stand among world class city's is against the rules, the west was made by being bold, being cheap and it even used cheap labour.

As for the "WORLD" and your little immature rant in the "ONLY IN DUBAI" thread over sewage and lack of connection to the main land, you did not read my post about septic tanks, do you even know what a septic tank is and how long it takes to fill. Are you so dumb and so fucking unknowledgeable? yet you continued to post about it after i told you. It’s about time you S-T-F-U?

thunder head
March 1st, 2006, 07:22 AM
wow citystyle, must be that time of month again.

uewepuep
March 1st, 2006, 07:27 AM
wow invincible, must be that time of month again.I liked thunder head's rant about Melbourne on a dull day. He could have just said that leaves fall off trees in autumn. Thunder head I guess you meant to post that here (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=7538674#post7538674), wrong thread you twit.

CULWULLA
March 1st, 2006, 07:31 AM
ok guys, cool it.
please post intelligent posts.

this thread is about Eureka & Q1 loosing there title as worlds tallest resi.

Citystyle
March 1st, 2006, 08:34 AM
Hey Cull there is nothing un intelligent about telling him to STFU.

I think you have to look back a few pages were him and mr centerpoint hijacked the thread.

Mr Centrepoint
March 1st, 2006, 09:18 AM
Or go make out with some greenies... Anyway shoosh citystyle. :sleepy:

Citystyle
March 2nd, 2006, 08:29 AM
Or go make out with some greenies... Anyway shoosh citystyle. :sleepy:

:) I could but. Thunder Head (he picks himself well) wont stop.

Mr Centrepoint
March 2nd, 2006, 08:35 AM
Well i bet you'd be upset like us if they plonked in a central park and bankwest if not you're just too calm...

Citystyle
March 6th, 2006, 10:22 AM
No not really they have two towers that look like bankwest. And CP is so different it would be a first to do somthing similar. LOL.

shrewd.user
March 6th, 2006, 10:53 AM
dubai's fun to watch though. :)

Locke
March 22nd, 2006, 02:11 AM
Looks like a new tallest resi for Dubai (by default this means the world now;)) - 106 storeys - 460m.

Nice tower:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9638/oh18mz.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4018/oh30kd.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6922/oh20yr.jpg

KJBrissy
March 22nd, 2006, 07:18 AM
^^ I like it!!

SoulvisionQ1
March 22nd, 2006, 11:25 AM
^^ Yeah that is nice!! but you wouldn't want a cyclone come through!

Citystyle
March 22nd, 2006, 12:17 PM
That building wont get built for 7 years, Damac need to sell OC1 out first and then build it!

thunder head
March 23rd, 2006, 07:34 AM
what's next, a staircase to the moon? rich bastard showoffs.

Tom_Green
March 23rd, 2006, 10:19 PM
rich bastard showoffs.

I think the same when i see a guy in a Ferrari. But to be honest i am just jealous. I want what he has. ;)

AltiusAltiusAltius
March 25th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Who's gonna live in all those new Dubai condos?

KJBrissy
March 25th, 2006, 01:08 AM
expats??

SA BOY
March 27th, 2006, 08:46 AM
mainly expats as these are really high end accomodation for the people who are building this city. you will find the investor who buys these appartemsnts are a mix of GCC nationals and western expats, all hoping to make a 20% rewturn in 2 years

BrizzyChris
March 27th, 2006, 02:26 PM
expats??
Expatriates. Foreigners living overseas.

SA BOY
April 2nd, 2006, 12:40 PM
like me

Saab
April 6th, 2006, 06:32 AM
Looks like a new tallest resi for Dubai (by default this means the world now;)) - 106 storeys - 460m.

Nice tower:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9638/oh18mz.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4018/oh30kd.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6922/oh20yr.jpg
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

malec
April 6th, 2006, 11:36 AM
It's only at the proposal stage.

mtb_nz
April 6th, 2006, 02:41 PM
Looks like a new tallest resi for Dubai (by default this means the world now;)) - 106 storeys - 460m.

Nice tower:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9638/oh18mz.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4018/oh30kd.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6922/oh20yr.jpg


nice design

malec
April 26th, 2006, 12:03 PM
And another:

Marina 101
Guess how many floors.
412m

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/sahmad1/72399b32.jpg


Looks OK but nothing special

CULWULLA
April 26th, 2006, 03:43 PM
fark, incredible. a 300m resi tower doesnt seem much anymore. 400m will be norm in Dubai. scary shit.

MILIUX
April 26th, 2006, 04:17 PM
i think this sums up everything.

http://home.exetel.com.au/miliux/forumimage/emir_dans_nuages.gif

Mr Centrepoint
April 29th, 2006, 09:15 AM
^ ^ ^ ^ ^

LMFAO!

CULWULLA
January 9th, 2007, 12:55 PM
isnt it refreshing to see a 300m+ resi tower being built thats NOT in Dubai.
sounds like they gonna do something similar to eureka adn Q1 by putting an observatory near the top.
its now 327m.

http://static.flickr.com/112/287690404_f06a38c586_o.jpg

posted by chad
Thailand’s tallest building to redefine Pattaya skyline

Construction on what will be the tallest building in Thailand is set to begin. The high-end Ocean 1 Tower, planned for the Jomtien waterfront, near Pattaya, will also be one of the tallest residential buildings in the world.

The 91 floor residential building overlooking Jomtien Beach will top out at 327 meters. Currently the Baiyoke Tower 11, at 304 meters and 84 floors, is Thailand’s tallest building.

Ocean 1 Tower is being developed by Eastern Seaboard property firm Siam Best Enterprises Co., Ltd. The building will feature 611 condominiums, ranging from studios through to three bedroom apartments, with one penthouse and two duplex penthouses. The complex will also include a shopping centre with a supermarket and specialty shops, as well as a variety of restaurants and cafes.

Bruno Pingel, CEO and managing director of Siam Best Enterprises, said Ocean 1 Tower would be a signature property that would not only redefine the Pattaya skyline, but would also set new standards in Thailand’s luxury condominium market.

“Ocean 1 Tower will be a landmark building in many ways,” he said. “It will introduce totally new concepts and technologies in the building of high rise luxury condominiums.”

Mr Pingel.said the Ocean 1 Tower development would have a significant impact on the Eastern Seaboard economy.
“This is a multi-million dollar project and as well as creating significant employment and revenues in the construction phase, will bring ongoing economic and employment benefits to the local community,” he said.

Sales to foreigners of Ocean 1 Tower units were expected to bring in US$ 200,000,000 in foreign currency revenues. “Apart from the direct revenue benefits, Ocean 1 Tower will be a world class accommodation and shopping complex,” he said. “It will be a major tourist attraction in its own right.”

Mr Pingel said a soft launch of the project among current clients and in selected international markets had already resulted in 15 per cent of units being sold.

Facilities include three swimming pools overlooking the ocean, a health spa, gym, jogging track and tropical gardens and salas.

A high speed tourist elevator will take visitors to the 91st floor which will have an observation gallery and restaurant. The apartment tower will have 14 high speed elevators servicing three residential zones.
Architects for the project are Woods Bagot, an international firm with extensive experience in skyscraper design. Other projects by developer Siam Best Enterprises Co include View Talay Villas, View Talay Residence Condominiums and Majestic Residence.

Source : Property Report : Jan 8, 2006

Eureka!
January 10th, 2007, 04:46 AM
Love that building. Australia is so behind the times. :(

Is it 300 metres to roof or does it cheat lol.

broadie
January 10th, 2007, 09:27 AM
hehe Q1 is better

Eureka!
January 10th, 2007, 09:42 AM
nah. I like this one.

Citystyle
January 11th, 2007, 03:47 PM
Um Spire in Chicago is 600-610m tall and now an appartment building. Game over for a while for sure if it gets built.

MelboyPete
January 11th, 2007, 05:57 PM
Won't be long now before poor old Q1 has to pull down signage trumpeting that it's the World's Tallest Residential Building.
At least it had it's name in the history books of skyscrapers, something Eureka missed out on.

MelboyPete
January 11th, 2007, 05:58 PM
:cry:

Eureka!
January 11th, 2007, 08:52 PM
Um Spire in Chicago is 600-610m tall and now an appartment building. Game over for a while for sure if it gets built.

Don't think we'll beat that for a while... A lonfg while :(

CULWULLA
January 12th, 2007, 12:43 AM
citystyle-
well it hasnt even started yet. who knows if it ever will?
i like to go with projects that are actually uc.
eureka-
not sure of height. was supposed to be 367m, and now article says 327m. dunno if its with spire or not.
btw, Q1 looks better ;-)
melboypete-yeah it sure has cemented a place in history. worlds talelst resi from 2005-2009,
they just have to tweak lettering to say worlds tallest on completion. and for 5 year approx.