View Full Version : Is KL's skyline too dark at night compared to other asian cities?
Lastresorter March 19th, 2005, 09:19 PM I always have this feeling. KL has a fantastic skyline when compared to other asian cities. But, our night view often is not as great as theirs coz many tall buildings in KL are not being lit up at night? Only the KLCC area and KL tower are lit up nicely at night...
If you look at HK, Singapore, Shanghai, Seoul, Tokyo, Taipei, Jakarta, BKK, etc.... KL's skyscrapers simply need more lights at night, dont you think?
Can someone post the pics of other cities and KL's night views for comparison? :P
baqthier March 19th, 2005, 09:36 PM oooh definitely not..the skyline is decently litted at night and comparable with some world cities...of course can't compare with New York or Toronto lah.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/9densenight.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/9kl_night37.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/andrew_sc_goh/DSC02410a.jpg
http://www.elby.net/kltower/klnightlandscape.jpg
http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala%20lumpur/skyline%20fr%20little%20genting/IMG_4407sm.JPG
http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala%20lumpur/skyline%20fr%20little%20genting/IMG_4408sm.JPG
http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala%20lumpur/skyline%20fr%20little%20genting/IMG_4409sm.JPG
Lastresorter March 20th, 2005, 12:15 AM I want to post pictures... but it doesnt allow me to post attachments :(
AFL March 20th, 2005, 01:42 AM guess malaysians office workers arent working hard enough.....they tend to go home from office quite early and not many prefer to stay working until late at night..........sure if the majority of them do stay at night every floors of KL's skyscrapers would be lit by office lights...and coupled with exterior decorative lights it sure made the entire building very bright
but then again that's not always the point...........i saw baq's pictures and i think definitely KL is very bright.....just look at clouds/sky above KL it was lit up by the lights of the city..
hypermount March 20th, 2005, 09:24 AM Actually some pics of the other world cities can be quite misleading...it's all depend on the exposure settings of the camera when taking night pics. They could've look much brighter on the pics than in real life.
KLCC is defenitely very very brightly lit...not exagerrating to say they're the brightest object in the world.
Lastresorter March 20th, 2005, 11:10 AM hmmm... how do i post pictures here?
Solblanc March 20th, 2005, 11:14 AM If KL is darker, isn't that a good thing? There'd be less light pollution, for one.
Then again, lights are pretty :D
Lastresorter March 20th, 2005, 11:42 AM Here are some pics i got, start off with KL.
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/4319ku33.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/4319ku77.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala%20lumpur/skyline/skylinepanosm.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
Lastresorter March 20th, 2005, 11:55 AM http://megaweb.clubsnap.org/images1/city.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/103dscn0167a.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://pachome1.pacific.net.sg/~mippy/DSCN0722.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
Lastresorter March 20th, 2005, 12:03 PM http://www.danielflower.com/uploads/images/pic_5754.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://www.danielflower.com/uploads/images/pic_5751.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
Lastresorter March 20th, 2005, 12:09 PM http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/682pn20041202.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/556/6018351.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
Lastresorter March 20th, 2005, 12:17 PM http://bbs.zjw.cn/attachment/4_2549.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://bbs.zjw.cn/attachment/4_2557.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://bbs.zjw.cn/attachment/4_2561.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
Lastresorter March 20th, 2005, 12:24 PM http://files.photojerk.com/jingtian48/pic3/0076D1A2.jfif (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://files.photojerk.com/jingtian48/pic3/365854.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://files.photojerk.com/jingtian48/pic3/0076D1D1.jfif (http://www.vbulletin.com)
Lastresorter March 20th, 2005, 12:33 PM http://img115.exs.cx/img115/5390/uberseoul5xd.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://img184.exs.cx/img184/8617/28m3506m08ib.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
Lastresorter March 20th, 2005, 12:42 PM http://tokyoyakei.cool.ne.jp/tokyo/shinagawa/shinagawa-11.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://tokyoyakei.cool.ne.jp/tokyo/odaiba-fuji-tv/fuji-tv-5.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
http://tokyoyakei.cool.ne.jp/tokyo/tokyo-tower/t-tower-65.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
ryanr March 20th, 2005, 01:13 PM KL's skyline is quite well lit actually. Very much comparable with other major asian cities. But Singapore, Tokyo and Hong Kong's are among the best at night.
This is Makati at night: (not as impressive as the others)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93Makati_night.jpg
liping_t March 20th, 2005, 07:35 PM I think it's more reflective of city density then anything else....
szehoong March 21st, 2005, 09:03 AM guess malaysians office workers arent working hard enough.....they tend to go home from office quite early and not many prefer to stay working until late at night..........sure if the majority of them do stay at night every floors of KL's skyscrapers would be lit by office lights...and coupled with exterior decorative lights it sure made the entire building very bright
I am very very sure Malaysians do stay back much much longer than many cities. One can't compare cities in many temperate countries when during winter, night falls at 5pm. In Malaysia, it doesn't gets completely dark till 8pm ;)
In cities like Australia & New Zealand ....to a certain extent.....some Asian cities like Singapore, some companies and building owners keep the internal lights on for both aesthetic and security purpose. I saw many Sydney buildings that are litted up inside but not the outside :)
Malaysian companies tend to switch off the lights very early to conserve electricity :D
baqthier March 21st, 2005, 09:10 AM ^ and also i think many data and call centres are located outside the CBD. Just look at how bright cyberjaya is at night! :D
szehoong March 21st, 2005, 09:13 AM Here are some pics i got, start off with KL.
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/4319ku33.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
^^^ This is picture featured PTT bathed in its old lighting.
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/4319ku77.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
^^^ This one even older.....at that time Maxis isn't litted up at all except for its crown! :D
http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala%20lumpur/skyline/skylinepanosm.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
^^^ Wah.....this pano is so so so long ago punya hehehe.......you still managed to find it haha :D
szehoong March 21st, 2005, 09:18 AM http://pachome1.pacific.net.sg/~mippy/DSCN0722.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
^^^ Singapore is only litted up like that during special occasions like National Day and Chinese New Year.....not too sure bout other times ;)
szehoong March 21st, 2005, 09:20 AM http://www.danielflower.com/uploads/images/pic_5751.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)
Although HK is brighter than KL but the pano you've just posted is HK during Christmas where most of the buildings are litted up or are decked with Christmas lighting. NOrmally it is not as bright...but brighter than many cities lah ;)
Lastresorter March 21st, 2005, 07:32 PM Hehe I actually knew there'll be people saying the pictures are taken when buildings are lit up for special occasions leh... Hey didnt KL say they would do that on one of the Merdeka eves few years back? But apparently it wasnt quite successful... thanks to our Tenaga Nasional I guess...
Well, after the search for pics, I'm convinced that it's easier to find bright skyscrapers skylines of other asian cities than KL's... most KL's skyline pics at night are pretty dark... no offense la... I just wish our skyscrapers have more lights at night la... imagine the view of lights when you travel along Jln Tun Razak flyover :P
Lastresorter March 21st, 2005, 07:41 PM By the way, it's frustrating to see KLCC and the buildings around it are very well lit while the dark Megan Phileo Avenue just block a big part of the fantastic view...!! :mad2: :mad2:
Go along Jln Tun Razak flyover and u'll know what i meant... :wallbash:
szehoong March 21st, 2005, 08:19 PM Hehe I actually knew there'll be people saying the pictures are taken when buildings are lit up for special occasions leh... Hey didnt KL say they would do that on one of the Merdeka eves few years back? But apparently it wasnt quite successful... thanks to our Tenaga Nasional I guess...
Well, after the search for pics, I'm convinced that it's easier to find bright skyscrapers skylines of other asian cities than KL's... most KL's skyline pics at night are pretty dark... no offense la... I just wish our skyscrapers have more lights at night la... imagine the view of lights when you travel along Jln Tun Razak flyover :P
Actually why I pointed that out is because I can guarantee you that Singapore's skyscrapers are much less litted up compared to KL ones. Seriously.....if you compare our regular lit up with their national day lit up......our daily lit-up is almost on a similar scale. Our merdeka lit up is definitely better than many cities around the world. That I could guarantee. ;)
I believe you just can't based how brightly lit a city by basing on the result of the search on the internet. Cities like HK, Bangkok and Singapore have much more visitors therefore they do have lotsa skyline pictures so chances of stumbling across a well-litted one is higher :D
In fact KL are at its brightest during every Merdeka. It is not just a couple of years back that they have such initiative but it has been going on for quite sometime. In fact you can't blame it on Tenaga for not promoting the lit up.....a few years back, they gave 50% discount in electricity bill to building owners whom lit up their buildings during the Merdeka month. I am not too sure if they still do that. :)
szehoong March 21st, 2005, 08:24 PM By the way, it's frustrating to see KLCC and the buildings around it are very well lit while the dark Megan Phileo Avenue just block a big part of the fantastic view...!! :mad2: :mad2:
Go along Jln Tun Razak flyover and u'll know what i meant... :wallbash:
I know what you mean..... ;)
If you wanna see Megan Phileo Avenue litted-up.......you should see it during the Merdeka month. :D I am not too sure if it is gonna be litted up the entire month but I've seen it brightly litted up before :)
baqthier March 21st, 2005, 08:33 PM http://pachome1.pacific.net.sg/~goh.andrew/kl2.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/8853/3733918414at.jpg
http://i138.exs.cx/img138/4064/night22pa.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img223.exs.cx/img223/9530/night10hx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Vince March 22nd, 2005, 01:10 AM Hi everyone, I just think that KL's buildings are mostly lit-up from the outside instead of the interior. This is a good thing as most cities in the developed world waste lots of energy lighting their offices at night even when the buildings are empty. This is not a good thing. Malayisia has maintained a relatively low cost of living because of savings such as this. However, I think that Johor Bahru's skyline is miserable at night. The buildings are only lit on top by commercialised ads. There should be more exterior floodlights for the buildings to make the downtown core look more active at night. JB time to wake up from your slumber!!
Magician March 22nd, 2005, 02:55 AM I think KL is perfectly bright.... and most cities will only fully light up during special occasion like new year or christmas or national day
szehoong March 22nd, 2005, 03:45 AM Oh and one more thing I would like to add......there are many occasion when the buildings in KL are blocked by another as the buildings are not aligned with each other or are fully exposed to a certain angle (like HK where most buildings are visible from the Kowloon coast). Panos taken from Little Genting for example would have had Menara Public Bank (which is one of the most well litted-up building) blocked as well as those buildings around KL Sentral (KL Hilton & Le Meridian would be a good example).
Then there is a problem of buildings that are too far away from the CBD like Menara Telekom and the Parliament building - both which are splendidly litted up. Many cities do not faced such problem ;)
Blabbyboy March 22nd, 2005, 04:27 AM I am very very sure Malaysians do stay back much much longer than many cities. One can't compare cities in many temperate countries when during winter, night falls at 5pm. In Malaysia, it doesn't gets completely dark till 8pm ;)
In cities like Australia & New Zealand ....to a certain extent.....some Asian cities like Singapore, some companies and building owners keep the internal lights on for both aesthetic and security purpose. I saw many Sydney buildings that are litted up inside but not the outside :)
Malaysian companies tend to switch off the lights very early to conserve electricity :D
I think the trend in Australia for the last few years at least is to save energy costs by reducing external and internal lighting. So office lights go off automatically after a certain time unless there is some motion to turn it back on. You are right that in winter, night falls early, so most people are still in the office when night falls so obviously the buildings look more lit up. Whereas in summer, night doesn't fall until 9pm sometimes so by that time most office buildings have their internal lights off. As for external lighting, residential towers aren't usually lit at night obviously and office buildings in Sydney and Melbourne tend to light up certain features rather than spotlight the whole building. There are some exceptions, but mostly logos and some spires and things like that are lit up more than the building itself.
I think Singapore is not as well lit up as KL and KL is quite well lit up normally. I don't think it's necessary to compare with anywhere else. Most cities are like that - sometimes well lit, sometimes not. That's a living city. Hong Kong night show is an exception but that's a show - it's not real. I don't think it's necessary to have continuous costly and inefficient night lighting unnecessarily. For example, some lights go off at midnight is quite reasonable. Similarly in Australia, some towers that are lit up by spotlights only have their lights on from Friday and weekends and special occasions to save energy.
AFL March 22nd, 2005, 09:10 AM heard there was a survey a year ago which found out Aussies are the hardest working people among OECD nations.....means they stay at office until late at night
but again that's not always the case...........
TYW March 22nd, 2005, 11:12 AM if you guys see Penang, then you'll know what is dark!! thanks to the residentials.....
Lastresorter March 22nd, 2005, 06:52 PM By the way, I hardly see any night skyline pics of Penang & JB... can anyone post some?
Blabbyboy March 23rd, 2005, 03:23 AM I should also mention that some cities have special event light-ups for special occasions like Olympics or New Years using lasers and spotlights etc, but my earlier post was not referring to these - I was just talking about "normal" light installations.
Pablo March 23rd, 2005, 07:32 AM By the way, I hardly see any night skyline pics of Penang & JB... can anyone post some?
I personally think that penang night skyline is quite bright..of course it cannot compare to other city in the world, even KL. In fact Penang is just a town not a city:D
Penang don't have many office towers like other cities..and most of the office buildings in Penang r heritage houses. Although Penang don't have many office towers, but most of the office towers are lit up at night. Honestly, there r only 2 office towers in Penang didn't lit up..Menara Umno and Menara BHL.. During special day, most of the Penang office buildings have different light, lit up in the different way compare to normal day and it is more bright during special day.
Most of the Penang light r came from residential buildings..thanks god..that make the Penang night skyline brighter;)
Pablo March 23rd, 2005, 07:55 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/Jianfa/Skyline5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/Jianfa/PGnight1.jpg
Pablo March 23rd, 2005, 08:32 AM http://img124.exs.cx/img124/8849/Penang9.jpg
Pablo March 23rd, 2005, 09:05 AM This is the suburban..
http://img175.exs.cx/img175/4418/pano21ez.jpg
baqthier March 23rd, 2005, 11:48 AM Penang is bright..thanks also to the corridors and the stairways of the apartments ;)
Here's JB
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/9jhr5.jpg
szehoong March 25th, 2005, 11:20 AM My "latest" Pano taken on Friday (27th August 2004) from 'Little Genting' :D .......I dunno why but Berjaya Times Square and Bangunan AmFinance which are usually litted up aren't! :cry: Now the left part of Empire Tower are litted up as well as Menara Standard Chartered. Too bad that Bangunan DBKL and Menara Public Bank are blocked....and Menara ExxonMobil's front which is litted up are facing away from this pano.
http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/pano27-8-2004modsm.jpg
TYW March 26th, 2005, 03:07 PM cropped from a satelite pic by NASA
http://img94.exs.cx/img94/5404/landlights16384copy3ex.jpg
TYW March 26th, 2005, 03:11 PM http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/images/1438/earth_lights.gif
nazrey March 26th, 2005, 04:29 PM Wow excellent to appearance TYW.BTW S.Korea is brightest on the Korean Peninsula in north East Asia.
Kevinkhoo1986 March 26th, 2005, 04:53 PM where did you get it TYW? Hmmm.... i saw that world map poster in my school's library b4.
D_Y2k.2^ March 27th, 2005, 08:33 AM i believe KL looks darker due to the density.N by lookin at some pics posted bfor,most pics may look brighter due to camera settings.
TYW March 27th, 2005, 09:31 AM i got it from here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=194511
Lastresorter March 28th, 2005, 10:34 PM http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/pano27-8-2004modsm.jpg[/QUOTE]
See what I mean by the DARK Megan Phileo Avenue... Sze Hoong can point that out in your pic ar?
I really hate that building everytime I travel on Jln Tun Razak!
redstone March 30th, 2005, 09:51 AM Think another way:
Is HK's skyline too bright compared to other Asian cities? :D ;)
Pablo March 30th, 2005, 05:27 PM lolololol...:lol:...good question..I'm sure that someone will answer ''NO''
In my opinion..i won't choose a city which is too bright to stay in, HK..ermm..i think is a bit too bright..i'll got insomnia..hahahhaha:D:D
redstone March 30th, 2005, 05:30 PM lolololol...:lol:...good question..I'm sure that someone will answer ''NO''
In my opinion..i won't choose a city which is too bright to stay in, HK..ermm..i think is a bit too bright..i'll got insomnia..hahahhaha:D:D
How 'bout:
Are other Asian cities' skylines too bright compared to KL's? :D:D:D
Happy? :D
Andrew Goh March 31st, 2005, 01:03 AM "of course can't compare with New York or Toronto lah. "
This is so not true~~~
NYC and Toronto, IMO, perhaps all North American cities skylines aren't as colorful as those Asians one afterdark~ I guess it's because the buildings were built so early that it's too late for them to put the lights and colors on ^^
Magician March 31st, 2005, 04:17 AM cropped from a satelite pic by NASA
http://img94.exs.cx/img94/5404/landlights16384copy3ex.jpg
Hohoho... Penang is more ligthed up than JB...
Anyway the next photo - the world one... I think its fake... how would it be possible that the whole world lighten up together,.. :weirdo:
Magician March 31st, 2005, 04:18 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/Jianfa/Skyline5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/Jianfa/PGnight1.jpg
I cant resist Penang's skyline... just love it soooo much
TYW March 31st, 2005, 08:57 AM Hohoho... Penang is more ligthed up than JB...
Anyway the next photo - the world one... I think its fake... how would it be possible that the whole world lighten up together,.. :weirdo:
i think they take the pictures on different days, then they stitch it up;)
Pablo March 31st, 2005, 02:49 PM Anyway the next photo - the world one... I think its fake... how would it be possible that the whole world lighten up together,..
Hahahaha..i just want to ask this question..:D:D:D..Strange ya..If like wat TYW said they take the pictures on different days, then they stitch it up..i think it is a verty difficult job;) because..they sky is not always clear, and not all the places have the same sky, clear sky;)
TYW March 31st, 2005, 03:08 PM Hahahaha..i just want to ask this question..:D:D:D..Strange ya..If like wat TYW said they take the pictures on different days, then they stitch it up..i think it is a verty difficult job;) because..they sky is not always clear, and not all the places have the same sky, clear sky;)
they are NASA!! they are speciallized in difficult jobs :D
redstone March 31st, 2005, 05:41 PM Canada and Australia are suprisingly dark compared to India....
Lastresorter March 31st, 2005, 09:54 PM Canada and Australia are suprisingly dark compared to India....
Hehe I believe thats true of Canada & Australia as both are not very populated despite vast land... most parts of Canada are icy while most parts of Australia are outback...
AFL April 1st, 2005, 07:13 AM in fact australia is the darkest inhabited continent on earth..........and that's true because during my 8 hours night flight from brisbane to KUL. i spend 4 hours passing through autralian continent but completely no lights on the ground whatsoever.......
well, maybe except for spots of lights which maybe cattle stations and mining towns of western australia :) :)
Lastresorter April 4th, 2005, 01:50 PM Hehe anyway, vote for your favourite city skyline here la.... :)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=197689&page=1&pp=20
Azrain98 December 2nd, 2011, 01:20 PM hey lol
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