^^Oh man, that is my area :( i miss shanghai

Now it's my area too :) I moved to this place recently.

^^Ah i see, not bad, now we share line2 century park station :D

i have got two homes there, one on hua mu road the other on jing xiu road, approximately 20min walk from each other, love this area, so clean, so nice!

^^Oh man, :( i miss shanghai

you miss shanghai cuz auckland is a very boring place! :D

you miss shanghai cuz auckland is a very boring place! :D

33% true, 33% because im rich in shanghai and poor in auckland, 33% because my wife is in shanghai.

I see, so you are poor but your wife is rich! I bet she is the one supporting you! :D

33% true, 33% because im rich in shanghai and poor in auckland, 33% because my wife is in shanghai.

Where do you get your income from?

^^ didn't you read my last post? :D

an old photo -- Shanghai 1993

I guess you know where this is :)

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/6b9d9522gw1dp0xvntl52j.jpg

from http://weibo.com/u/1981278623

an old photo -- Shanghai 1993

I guess you know where this is :)

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/6b9d9522gw1dp0xvntl52j.jpg

from http://weibo.com/u/1981278623

Seems like the nanpu bridge, of course the surrounding area is unrecognizable.

Seems like the nanpu bridge, of course the surrounding area is unrecognizable.

Actually I can't see any difference from today...

Actually I can't see any difference from today...

Anyone who's currently in Shanghai can take a picture from roughly the same position/angle, and let us compare??

That would be very interesting.

Nice thread...hello to everyone from a newbie

Actually I can't see any difference from today...

Totally...

Himalayas Center

I visited this building on the weekend to watch a movie. The shopping mall part is not fully opened yet (2 restaurants and a movie theatre opened). The hotel and exhibition hall were full operational.

Photos I took on weekend,

hotel
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"opening soon" store signs, the interiors are all completed, I guess they will open in one month.

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The exhibition hall is so crap, i went there for some chocolate expo in december last year, and the whole place smells like 甲醛。。。

And the stone pillar looks so fake and cheap... worst of all, that building is pure light pollution at night..

Shanghai still more expensive than New York

By Lu Nengneng (Shanghai Daily)08:25, February 15, 2012


The cost of living for expats is still higher in Shanghai than it is in New York, according to the latest survey.

Shanghai rose six places to rank 42nd in a global list while New York climbed two places from 49th spot in June to 47th, according to a cost of living survey by the UK-based Economist Intelligence Unit using data from December last year.

Los Angeles and Moscow tied with Shanghai while Beijing dropped three places to 59th. Hong Kong is 22nd.

The biannual survey, which aims to explore the true cost of an expat lifestyle in 130 major cities, compares more than 400 prices across 160 products and services.

The survey covers the cost of necessities such as food, drink and clothing, and optional spending such as on private schools, domestic help and recreation.

The survey found, for example, that a kilogram of white sliced bread was US$3.58 on average in Shanghai compared with US$3.36 in 2010, and the price of a liter of regular unleaded petrol was US$1.22 compared to US$0.98. Ten years ago, bread was US$2.05 and the petrol US$0.34.

Despite price increases over the past decade, Shanghai has seen its relative cost of living fall, slipping from 16th spot 10 years ago as the US dollar, which China's currency yuan used to be pegged to, started to weaken from its 2001 high. Beijing once ranked 11th and Hong Kong third.

Following the strengthening of the Swiss franc last year, Zurich is now the most expensive city for expats, pushing Tokyo into second place. Another Swiss city, Geneva, has moved up six places to end joint third with Japan's Osaka.

Though in the midst of a sovereign debt crisis, Europe accounts for half of the top 10 most expensive cities, with Oslo fifth, Paris sixth, and Frankfurt 10th.

"Local inflation in mature markets always has far less influence on the relative cost of living than the currency movements of the countries in question," the report said.

The appreciation of the Australian dollar, whose parity with the US dollar dropped to only half the value 10 years ago, also explains the recent presence of Sydney and Melbourne among the 10 most expensive locations. They came seventh and eighth.

The three least expensive cities for expats were Karachi, Mumbai and Tehran.

source (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/7729348.html)

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Magic building. I'd like to visit it soon.:cheers:

Shanghai still more expensive than New York

By Lu Nengneng (Shanghai Daily)08:25, February 15, 2012



source (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/7729348.html)

If you take into account the income of the citizens, Shanghai will probably in the top10 of the list...

I don't get how Shanghai (or any other major city in China) can be "more expensive" than NYC? I booked a hostel in Shanghai (the best ranked by hostelworld.com which is probably better, more sexy, cool and comfortable than any accommodation of similar type anywhere in NYC or any other Western city). It costs... $6 a night. Same story with food. It costs virtually nothing compared to what it does in NYC (London, Paris, Berlin). Same with transport. Same with long-term rental accommodation. Same with restaurants. Same with... well anything? How on earth can Shanghai be more expensive? I mean for Chirst's sake, I'm a relatively mid-income person myself and I would not even consider going to a place which is more expensive than London. Simply because I could not afford it. Yet I'm going to Shanghai (Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Beijing or pretty much the rest of China which I will probably do for the rest of my life) very lighthandedly due to it being very cheap among other reasons. Where is all that Shanghai being "expensive" stuff coming from? It just doesn't make any sense. Shanghai is NOT expensive.

These lists of "most expensive cities" are very misleading, because they are from the expat lifestyle point of view. so NYC seems cheaper because the lifestyle used as a standard in this study comes cheaper there, whereas in Shanghai and some other high ranking places it comes with additional costs.

For example, groceries that they choose compare are cheap in the states, but probably in Shanghai they have to buy imports to get similar groceries, thus making Shanghai seem more expensive that it is. Even in that article they mention the price of white bread as an indicator, it's not typically bought by locals. (actually when I'm in China the one food I miss mostly is decent, non-sugary bread lol)

Right I thought there must be a 'trick' somewhere. Perhaps they should also compare prices of Ferraris and Lamborghinis which cost at least twice as much in China.

These lists of "most expensive cities" are very misleading, because they are from the expat lifestyle point of view. so NYC seems cheaper because the lifestyle used as a standard in this study comes cheaper there, whereas in Shanghai and some other high ranking places it comes with additional costs.

For example, groceries that they choose compare are cheap in the states, but probably in Shanghai they have to buy imports to get similar groceries, thus making Shanghai seem more expensive that it is. Even in that article they mention the price of white bread as an indicator, it's not typically bought by locals. (actually when I'm in China the one food I miss mostly is decent, non-sugary bread lol)

Exactly, essentially they are measuring the costs of maintaining a Western lifestyle. For instance, gym memberships are more expensive in Shanghai as are the typical nutritional supplements you get at GNC. Cereal is more expensive too, western style breads, pasta, steak, etc. are all more expensive in Shanghai. Hell, even ethnic foods like Indian Mexican and Caribbean foods are more expensive (El Mexicano being the exception as they mostly cater to international fudan students) than in NYC.

If you were to compare living costs for locals, then NYC would clearly be more expensive. But oftentimes it can be difficult for foreigners to live exactly the way locals do. As a tourist, seeing the "real China" in second and third tier cities can be a refreshing and fun experience, but for expats on long-term work assignments, being located in Shanghai or Beijing (with easy access to expatriate amenities) is a must.

"Following the strengthening of the Swiss franc last year, Zurich is now the most expensive city for expats, pushing Tokyo into second place. Another Swiss city, Geneva, has moved up six places to end joint third with Japan's Osaka.
Though in the midst of a sovereign debt crisis, Europe accounts for half of the top 10 most expensive cities, with Oslo fifth, Paris sixth, and Frankfurt 10th."

I do believe the author of this article needs a bucket of cold water to wake up. Perhaps a bit embarassed, but nontheless.

For one, the Swiss franc rose due to the euro crisis, so why make it sound as if it would turn zurich and geneva any cheaper? Now, what he could have mentionned is that the swizz did some quantitative easing, in turn lowering the cost of the franc. Question just remains on when the study was being done.
Secondly, neigther Norway nor Switzerland is part of the eurozone OR the EU. So the only crisis we have is that we have poorer neighbours. In fact, in Norway's case, that only means easier access to labor in a red hot workers market.

When you have losers, you also have winners...

Edit: It is a eurozone crisis. Not a pan-european crisis. You also have some EU members not part of the eurozone who are doing very well nowadays. Like Sweden, Poland and Estonia. Actually, there is kind of a shift financially from the mediterranean towards the baltic sea, where you also have Russia and St.Petersburgh's economy booming. That kinda sums it up.

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where can I store my photos and show them here?
It seem that most of the websites don't allow their pictures show on other websites.

That Shanghai cost of living stuff is crap. I am saving so much more money than I would if in lived in Tampa. Tampa is not some world class city. Maybe If I had a 3000 sqft house with a yard and sent my kids to an American school, and had a car, driver, maid, yoga class for the wife, and only ate at fancy Laowai restaurants, bought luxury goods and shopped for imported food at City store. Maybe it would cost more money.

But I have a well paying job, (similar to what I would make in the USA) I live in the city center in a decent 68sqm apt. My rent is 600 USD, in the summer when I am not running the heat all day my electricity bill is 6USD. I usually eat at decent Chinese restaurants and the occasional Laowai restaurant (usu a bar) and sometimes I cook. When I had a boyfriend, he used to cook all the time. I'm a bit lazier. The big difderence is that I don't have a car, so no car payments, gas, insurance, etc. That's a huge saver! Also I am the only Laowai in SH who doesn't have a maid. Incl rent, I spend about 7,000yuan a month. That's unless I make a huge purchase, or take a trip to America.

where can I store my photos and show them here?
It seem that most of the websites don't allow their pictures show on other websites.

Flickr (flickr.com) I think is the overall best site for hosting and sharing photos for free. If you are only looking for hosting, and are willing to pay I would suggest Imgur (imgur.com) b/c it's very fast an simple.

When I had a boyfriend, he used to cook all the time.

Hmmm

Kix is confused. :lol:

Anyway, guys. Shanghai is expensive in some ways, and cheap in others. New York is expensive in some ways, and cheap in others. Perhaps we can all agree on that and end the discussion?

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Thank you for the latest skyline pictures. With Shanghai Tower's completion, I'd love to see a skyline comparison in 1990/2000/2010/2015 :)

BTW I always feel Shanghai is more beautiful at night than it is on daytime.

Very nice pictures!

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Flickr (flickr.com) I think is the overall best site for hosting and sharing photos for free. If you are only looking for hosting, and are willing to pay I would suggest Imgur (imgur.com) b/c it's very fast an simple.
Thank you,
Now, I use Flickr to have a test
clothes-horse of Shanghai residents
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Pudong at night
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Pudong in midnight
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外滩 at night
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外滩 in midnight
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BTW I always feel Shanghai is more beautiful at night than it is on daytime.

Don't you think that can be said about every city with lots of skyscrapers though? And especially asian cities with large amounts of neon lights. Like hong kong, seoul and not at least tokyo...

Looking at some daytime pictures of shanghai, the smog that covers the city during the day seems to add an extra color effect at night from all the lights. Kinda like in a disco... after all, there is a disco ball at the center of shanghai, so perhaps the officials thought of that once, perhaps to reduce the public outcry of the sickening smog :p

Personally I'm hoping for more subway construction, and electric vehicles. That would be more beautiful than some fancy night colors :)

Pardon me for reading too much between the lines here, hehe

Actually I prefer the daytime Shanghai, there's just more to see.

Of course the night view of Lujiazui / Bund is nice, but especially driving on yan'an elevated highway the view is much more interesting in clear daylight. I think a lot of the residential buildings are nice looking too and they might not have any special neon lights to make them stand out during the night, and even the older residential buildings add a lot of character to the city scenery.

Interesting, but I think driving eastwards (towards the Bund from say Changning) at night time is so much better- all the flashing lights and monstrous skyscrapers either side of the road with SWFC, Jin Mao and Pearl Tower getting increasingly close :nuts:

Actually I prefer the daytime Shanghai, there's just more to see.

Of course the night view of Lujiazui / Bund is nice, but especially driving on yan'an elevated highway the view is much more interesting in clear daylight. I think a lot of the residential buildings are nice looking too and they might not have any special neon lights to make them stand out during the night, and even the older residential buildings add a lot of character to the city scenery.

Shanghai, the future capital of the world :)

Shanghai, the future capital of the world :)

Unless it sinks into the sea. I wonder how they can deal with that in the years and decades to come.

Unless it sinks into the sea. I wonder how they can deal with that in the years and decades to come.

Just like The Netherlands did for the past *one hell knows how many* years?

^^Pansori, i have got some two threads of pictures i have taken in shanghai here. I dont think you need to register to see it.

These two are photos taken by me using D3
http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.php?tid=168521&extra=page%3D1
http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.php?tid=200797&extra=page%3D6

and this one is just me mucking around taking random shots with my Nex-5. You pretty much see the places i go / play in Shanghai as i take it around with me 24/7 almost.

http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.php?tid=195381&extra=page%3D6

^^
You take some brilliant photos! Have you posted them on SSC? Anyway thanks for giving the links. I'll review all of them. I'm trying to build a good picture of Shanghai before going there in person so it will be helpful.

^^Nope i have not, just cant be bothered transferring all those posts here sorry =/

^^Nope i have not, just cant be bothered transferring all those posts here sorry =/

You like shopping malls don't you? :p

Pansori: I know.. It just worries me with the netherlands too, and you never know what may happen to those barriers.

New York also is harbor city...

弄堂 in Shanghai
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love it!

Bridge in Xuhui district of Shanghai

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你好, 我叫明

我是泰国人, 我的老师是中国人 她在上海

上海很漂亮

After 3 years, i finally had time to buy an apartment in Pudong! Can't wait to be there in a few weeks. I will try to post some pics!

classic Shanghai skylines

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from 大众, gaoloumi.com

this one is a bit old though

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from bbcvscnn, gaoloumi.com

^^Whats your username on gaoloumi? :)

Same as here but I'm rookie there :)

nice view.

上海很漂亮.

你好, 我叫明

我是泰国人, 我的老师是中国人 她在上海

上海很漂亮

Thank you Ming and you are welcome to visiting Shanghai :cheers:

recent Shanghai pics by mori, gaoloumi.com

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From Youtube

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the photos above of Shanghai are simply amazing.

Sleepless City from Youtube

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one of the best Shanghai CBD photos!



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whats happening in the wfc parking lot?

^^ There'll be interconnections underground. My guess is the connection project with subways and its two neighbors.

out class...................

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IMAG0293 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59752363@N08/7040962819/) by skiligo (http://www.flickr.com/people/59752363@N08/), on Flickr

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IMAG0188 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59752363@N08/7040957861/) by skiligo (http://www.flickr.com/people/59752363@N08/), on Flickr

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http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/8d3f60d4gw1drp4if2flsj.jpg

^^ WOW, a forest of concrete with inner ring threading by...

Shanghai inner ring is getting more and more saturated, i wonder how long those old ghettos will last.

Shanghai inner ring is getting more and more saturated, i wonder how long those old ghettos will last.

Longer than you think, as long as the property bubble persists and poor residents with nothing to lose continue to demand high compensation.

Legislations D:

Longer than you think, as long as the property bubble persists and poor residents with nothing to lose continue to demand high compensation.

I dunno, never underestimate the CCP's ability to tear down places for no reason. I have seen quaint lane house torn down and nothing built for years. They are tearing down a nice little bar street on Kangding road for more apartments this month!

I dunno, never underestimate the CCP's ability to tear down places for no reason. I have seen quaint lane house torn down and nothing built for years. They are tearing down a nice little bar street on Kangding road for more apartments this month!

It's the poorest slum areas that are the hardest to develop, because the people there have nothing to lose and would fight tooth and nail for every little thing. It's mainly old people who are left as well, and they have a knack of making the government look bad.

Couldnt the government make new laws against unreasonable refusal of offerings, for public policy reasons and in order to promote the development of the city?

This wouldnt seem that outrageous...?

Whatever laws you make they need to be practicable and enforceable. In China you can get away with being heavy handed with certain things but there is still a limit. Anything in Shanghai would certainly attract a lot of attention and the government would rather not have certain sorts of publicity.

Again, i dont think such law would be outrageous and is in fact quite reasonable for a developing country. The general rule is that if the interest of the public is greater, the smaller sacrifice would be justifiable. In the end, it is only against unreasonable refusals, so it is not like the stereotpyical 1950s image that the CCP is going 'nationalise' your land or anything.

In the past, Western courts have upheld many laws made by the parliament that deprived citizens of their fundamental human rights, which were way worse than this :0

You are right in principle of course, but in practice it's less to do with what's right or wrong than whether it'll give you unwanted publicity. There have been numerous accounts of people going up rooftops holding a bottle of orange juice (to look like poison) and wearing wellies (to prevent themselves from slipping). One might be tempted to say if those people fall and die good riddance, but there are good reasons even the CCP don't want that happening.

Shanghai Ranked as Most Open City of China: NDRC

2012-04-01 20:57:51 Xinhua Web Editor: Yihang

China's eastern economic hub of Shanghai is the most open city in the country for its deep involvement in developing an export-oriented economy, according to a report released by the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), China's top economic planner.

Beijing and the southern coastal province of Guangdong ranked second and third, respectively, in terms of their degree of openness, which was measured using three primary indices for economic, technological and social development, the report said.

The report marked the first time for China to release an openness index for its 31 administrative areas on the Chinese mainland.

The move will help identify regional economic differences and serve as a reference for the country's policy choices, said Wei Jianguo, secretary-general of the China Center for International Economic Exchange and former deputy minister of commerce.

The southwest province of Guizhou ranked the lowest after northwest China's Qinghai Province and the Tibet autonomous region, the report said.

Cao Wenlian, deputy director of the NDRC's Fiscal and Financial Department, said the ranking will help the country's less-open regions to recognize their developmental advantages and encourage them to make more efforts to match their openness ratings with their own economic development levels.

It's the poorest slum areas that are the hardest to develop, because the people there have nothing to lose and would fight tooth and nail for every little thing. It's mainly old people who are left as well, and they have a knack of making the government look bad.

Very true. You can still see those protesters in Hongqiao Airport every week.

This pic was taken by me last Sep.

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/IMG_5751.jpg

^^What_the_fuck?

MyKQwnnxooA

Very true. You can still see those protesters in Hongqiao Airport every week.

This pic was taken by me last Sep.

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/IMG_5751.jpg



I am impressed! Its a sign of change, in the old days those people won't even be there for over 5 mins. Glad that gov is allowing them to vent their frustration and anger.

^^ it's happening here and there. There's still a long way to go but China is not the one 20 years ago.

x-posting some of the best Shanghai pictures

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Yuyuan Garden Shopping Precinct/豫园商城, Huangpu District
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Middle Yan'an Road Intercrossing/延安中路立交 (Nice Shot, Staff! :))
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kreuz (http://www.flickr.com/photos/staffh/7050611659/) by staffh (http://www.flickr.com/people/staffh/), on Flickr

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Middle Huaihai Road[/SIZE][/B]
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^^
Fuck that shiiiit! :eek2:
The first photo...

Omg huaihai road in the last pic.... my fav place.. i miss shanghai :(

amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!! the last one rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!

the last pic looks like NY AND Tokyo street mixed

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Shanghai with snow

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the last pic looks like NY AND Tokyo street mixed


Agree with it

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I think this one is very old
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I think this one is very old


yes they are. There's no accumulated snow during last winter.

Probably from 2011 Jan, i was in Shanghai, awesome snow!

@Emloto,please don't just upload one pic in a post!!

shanghai looks beautiful in snow.

Nanjing Road 20 years ago

http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/63bed5efjw1dsajop5ba9j.jpg

Im pretty sure its not as long as 20 years ago. I remember when i was young, all the taxi were still Xia Li, you never see Santanas around.

Wasn't oriental pearl 1994? hence can't really be 20yrs?

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Mm where is the first mall? Is it the one on the road outside Tianzifang?

Does somebody have any new photos of 五角场 Wujiaochang area?
On Google earth there is an empty plot southeast of the roundabout, what's going on there and what will it be?

Mm where is the first mall? Is it the one on the road outside Tianzifang?

You mean this one ?

http://a.imageshack.us/img208/2421/0944320nn9444p9i024l9n.jpg

Ya

It is a glass museum and restaurant which located in 25th Kangtai road .

http://www.liulichinamuseum.com/sc/index.aspx

Tai-kang road you mean?

Haha yea i remember it was there, just outside Tianzi Fang, didnt realise its a museum though :O

Nanjing Road 20 years ago



Ah now I can see this picture - it wasn't visible the last few days.

This is no earlier than 1997 - the 921 bus in the foreground was introduced in that year, and judging by that it and the blue bus on the 37 are quite new, I think it's not much later than that.

good observation. yes you are right. I copied the title and picture to here from weibo without much thinking.

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^^ this is insane. Still where I live is out of this picture...

^^ this is insane. Still where I live is out of this picture...

yeah, this pic can't even cover 中心城区。pudong hongkou and yangpu districts not be shown entirly.

其实也是2009年的老图了。

^^ this is insane. Still where I live is out of this picture...

Wow really? I can see Century Park and the Pudong Exposition site =/ Im sure my place is included in the picture, just cant really identify it.

The picture shows pretty much the whole inner ring of Shanghai, to me Shanghai = the inner ring only, outside the inner ring is a HUGE difference, too poor standard to be called Shanghai :D

What about areas inside the middle ring road in Puxi such as Hongqiao and Putuo?

What is considered the inner city or the "city" in Shanghai? I guess the inner ring road isn't accurate because there are more dense areas just outside inner ring in Puxi than in inside the inner ring in Pudong. Where does the "suburbs" start in Pudong? I guess century park is the most eastern you can go isn't it?

Wow really? I can see Century Park and the Pudong Exposition site =/ Im sure my place is included in the picture, just cant really identify it.

The picture shows pretty much the whole inner ring of Shanghai, to me Shanghai = the inner ring only, outside the inner ring is a HUGE difference, too poor standard to be called Shanghai :D

Ah if Century Park is in the picture then my home should be there too. I wonder now if my previous apartment (Zhangjiang High tech) can be seen in both pics though.

^^Wow, all i remember is that it used to be the terminal station of line 2 :D

What about areas inside the middle ring road in Puxi such as Hongqiao and Putuo?

What is considered the inner city or the "city" in Shanghai? I guess the inner ring road isn't accurate because there are more dense areas just outside inner ring in Puxi than in inside the inner ring in Pudong. Where does the "suburbs" start in Pudong? I guess century park is the most eastern you can go isn't it?

I would say Nanjing road (from east to west) is the artery of Shanghai.

The division of inner ring is more obvious in Pudong, i would say the Century Park area is pushing towards the boundary of Shanghai city centre.

Pudong district - Century park

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Those apartments to the right of the first picture is by far the BEST residential area in Shanghai. I live there ;)


Not bad ay


http://iforce.co.nz/i/ndjxfla5.q52.jpg (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=ndjxfla5.q52.jpg)

Wow not bad. I live right in the center of the big pictures.

Those apartments to the right of the first picture is by far the BEST residential area in Shanghai. I live there ;)


Not bad ay


http://iforce.co.nz/i/ndjxfla5.q52.jpg (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=ndjxfla5.q52.jpg)

Is it expensive living there? How many RMB did the apartment cost?
How did your family become so rich?

Wow not bad. I live right in the center of the big pictures.

You wish ahaha.


Is it expensive living there? How many RMB did the apartment cost?
How did your family become so rich?

Apartments around this area are commonly 8mil to 15mil RMB. The houses are over 30mil, with the most expensive ones going all the way over 200mil?

You wish ahaha.




Apartments around this area are commonly 8mil to 15mil RMB. The houses are over 30mil, with the most expensive ones going all the way over 200mil?

And you live in those 8-15 mil appartments? That is alot of money in China! Where did you r family get all the money? Factory owner? CEO?

You wish ahaha.

哼 I do I live in Xuhui district, near Jingan.

And you live in those 8-15 mil appartments? That is alot of money in China! Where did you r family get all the money? Factory owner? CEO?

I dont know, maybe you should ask thousands of other people who also live there : |

Also has an apartment close, awesome view :D

http://iforce.co.nz/i/trfftqmu.opn.jpg (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=trfftqmu.opn.jpg)

And you live in those 8-15 mil appartments? That is alot of money in China!
It is a lot of money for the vast majority of the total population, but remember that even if a comparatively small portion of the population is wealthy, they are going to be large in numbers due to China's size. China is second in the world only to the US in the amount of billionaires and millionaires, and the largest market for luxury goods. These people also tend to live in the largest cities such as Beijing and Shanghai. Every 175th person in Shanghai is worth over RMB 10 million, and far more are worth over 1 million. The numbers are even higher in Beijing.

Another reason for the high real estate prices in China (compared to Sweden for example) is the comparatively deregulated market. A large number of the properties are investments that are being rented out at (inflated) market prices. The average price within Shanghai's middle ring road is well over 50,000 RMB/sqm and well over 60,000 RMB/sqm within the inner ring (where millions and millions of people live). Now, imagine the amount of old and crappy substandard apartment blocks and units that drive down the average, and you can imagine how expensive the nicer apartments in Shanghai are.

April Shanghai

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nogger!

Didn't know they had refurbished this old warehouse. Have they completely changed the facade? I can't seem to remember exactly how it looked before.

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/1205062003b6010c4d2e91664b.jpg

Is that an old 20-30's Art Deco building? Looks lovey.

^^
Sure is.

This is what it looked like pre-refurbishment. Looks like they've over-modified it a bit too much for my liking, but better than demolishing it for sure.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2332/2079894471_31034e0c5d_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/meckleychina/2079894471/)
Warehouse - Waima Rd - Shanghai, China - 中国 上海 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/meckleychina/2079894471/) by meckleychina (http://www.flickr.com/people/meckleychina/), on Flickr

Where is it located? I don't think I've ever seen pictures of it before?

Southern part (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=31.221137,121.502116&num=1&t=h&z=18) of the Bund. Shanghai not only has one of the largest collections (probably the largest) of Art Deco in the world, but one of the most amazing and most diverse as well. And it is spread out across the entire urban area. :yes:

It is a lot of money for the vast majority of the total population, but remember that even if a comparatively small portion of the population is wealthy, they are going to be large in numbers due to China's size. China is second in the world only to the US in the amount of billionaires and millionaires, and the largest market for luxury goods. These people also tend to live in the largest cities such as Beijing and Shanghai. Every 175th person in Shanghai is worth over RMB 10 million, and far more are worth over 1 million. The numbers are even higher in Beijing.

Another reason for the high real estate prices in China (compared to Sweden for example) is the comparatively deregulated market. A large number of the properties are investments that are being rented out at (inflated) market prices. The average price within Shanghai's middle ring road is well over 50,000 RMB/sqm and well over 60,000 RMB/sqm within the inner ring (where millions and millions of people live). Now, imagine the amount of old and crappy substandard apartment blocks and units that drive down the average, and you can imagine how expensive the nicer apartments in Shanghai are.

60000 RMB/sqm :eek:
A 75 sqm appartment would then cost around 4 500 000 RMB.
How can people afford it? Are everybody living in inside the inner ring are rich? Because many people still live crowded in the shikumens and they don't seem so rich.

I guess it's the same people who fill the streets with new Audis, MBs and BMWs... there are MANY of those.

It looks much better now, even the electric wire is colored and beautified :)

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/1205062003b6010c4d2e91664b.jpg

^^
Sure is.

This is what it looked like pre-refurbishment. Looks like they've over-modified it a bit too much for my liking, but better than demolishing it for sure.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2332/2079894471_31034e0c5d_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/meckleychina/2079894471/)
Warehouse - Waima Rd - Shanghai, China - 中国 上海 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/meckleychina/2079894471/) by meckleychina (http://www.flickr.com/people/meckleychina/), on Flickr

60000 RMB/sqm :eek:
A 75 sqm appartment would then cost around 4 500 000 RMB.
How can people afford it? Are everybody living in inside the inner ring are rich? Because many people still live crowded in the shikumens and they don't seem so rich.
As I said the market is way more deregulated than for example in Sweden (which I assume you are comparing to). Sweden is one of very few countries where the property prices are a fairly accurate measure of people's purchasing power since if you own property you have to live in it as well (since it would be unprofitable to rent out as rents are artificially capped by law). This is also why it is nearly impossible to find a rental apartment in Sweden.

In China (and frankly most other countries in the world) the property prices generally make up a far larger portion of people's incomes, and many properties are merely investments that are rented out to pay off the investment. I would say that the vast majority of the population in Shanghai rent their units (still at high rents compared to their incomes though, but Chinese generally live more people per unit than in Europe), so the initial purchase prices of the apartments themselves are quite irrelevant when talking about Chinese people's purchasing power, since they may all be owned by a small, wealthy portion of the population.

Another reason for the high average is of course the astronomical prices of a small part of the housing stock that drives up the average. Walking past real estate offices in certain areas Shanghai it is not uncommon to see units advertised at RMB 100-150 million.

I preferred that art deco building the way it was pre renovation. The cladding looks too modern now, so much so that you would think it was a modern building built in an art deco style.

But it looks so shabby before the renovation.

Shanghai Spring (continued)

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Pudong district - Century park

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Nice views from the Century Pudong area. :cheers:

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^^ Keep those pictures coming. Thank you. :)

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Thanks but I don't think gaoloumi pics can be linked directly. It appears red cross now.

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How far is Antai College of Economics and Management (Jiao Tong University) from the Bund/Pudong? Walkable? I am staying near the former (conference early June).


Big dog please help!

^^ it's not in walking distance. but you can take subway line 10 from Shanghai Jiaotong university station, pass 6 stops and get off on Nanjing East Street station (the bund). It's pretty convenient.

post luxury pictures in shangai

^^Should i? :p

^^Should i? :p

yes post it i like it all things about luxury

lakeside park, near Xintiandi

http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/6f179434jw1dt05d0g0nzj.jpg

Have you seen this thin residental before? Any trick? :D

It's on Ningbo Road near Nanjing East Road (靠近南京东路的宁波路)

http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/726c1f87gw1dt2g8ksp3aj.jpg

What a city! 134 pages of pure eye-candy.

Shanghai Spring (continued)

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Nice shot!

^^ Thank you india and welcome to Shanghai!

Actually one of my best friends is visiting me in Shanghai from Vizag-AP at the end of this month.

^^ Thank you india and welcome to Shanghai!

Actually one of my best friends is visiting me in Shanghai from Vizag-AP at the end of this month.


I am also a indian dear i m from hyderabad :)

I am also a indian dear i m from hyderabad :)

great. my friend is also from Hyderabad he's working in Vizag now.

Good both hyderabadi's Its good :cheers:

^^ Make that three.

^^ Thank you india and welcome to Shanghai!

Thanks, big-dog. I was in Shanghai last in '05 and have been itching to return ever since. Too bad an opportunity to do so hasn't presented itself yet.

[QUOTE=india;91615961]^^ Make that three.


That makes me proud Indians are every where :)