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This thread is devoted to discussion about the River East development.

Which section of the Trib?

Real estate.

I saw the advert for Park View Condo's (such an original name, don't ya think?) this morning (Real Estate page 63), and I like the building. Very glassy indeed. I can't help but wonder when this boom is going to end, they keep announcing projects, and people with untold sum's of money keep buying them, who are these people?

Yes, it is 47 stories, I just called the number. I'm on this thing like white on rice.

It looks like 333 West Wacker Drive did the nasty with One Museum Park and had an offspring.

It looks like a DeStefano building.

^
That is my friends always say. But if you think about it, Chicago's residential boom is trying to keep up with all of the people who work in downtown.
Chicago continues to add more office space and bring in more professionals. I see it as a pent up demand from the last several decades. Chicago always had a big workforce downtown, but not alot of residential in the Loop or River North, compared to NYC or even SF and Boston.

Now, you are seeing the residential :eek2:

This isn't the best, I'm sure we'll be getting a better rendering in the future.

Parkview
http://images.snapfish.com/3434584723232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3A46932%3C2ot1lsi

Excellent. I take it this is not the Ralph Johnson-designed building for LSD that people have mentioned on the forum?

This isn't the best, I'm sure we'll be getting a better rendering in the future.

Parkview
http://images.snapfish.com/3434584723232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3A46932%3C2ot1lsi

^Wow, not a bad one.

I like, I like very much.

But I like even more if there is ground level commercial space. Perhaps we shall find out some day...

That's not bad. God, though, what I would give for a new building without balconies.

^Buildings without balconies are more difficult to sell. Lets face it, even if one lives on the 45th floor, one always wants the ability to walk outside, even if it is an un-inhabitable wind blown space 10 months of the year.
Speaking for myself, I have never had the luxury of outdoor space, even a balcony, since leaving my parents house in the suburbs of California. I would kill for a balcony.

Tom In Chicago enlarged the image, here it is:
http://www.pbase.com/temper/image/41046369/original.jpg

the base looks pretty crappy. at least from this angle. doesn't look like any ground level retail unless its a big grocery store.

Anyone know if MCL has any low-rise stuff in the works? I really liked the Dearborn Park work they did and some of their other infill projects.

My expression changed from elated to very sad as my eyes went down the vertical length of the buiding. At this point, I have developped very high expectations of buildings. Whereas before I might have accepted a boring/uninvolving/noninteractive base provided solid upper architecture, now I find it a scourge on the urban environment. Even just an enticing lobby might be nice, if the retail market is tapped out.

Still... I suppose Streeterville isn't exactly in high need of ground-level activity.

Love the top. Love the middle. Despise the base. But hey, development is development and if it's going to replace one of the horrible surface lots that scar River East, I'll take it in a heartbeat!

Anyone got a line on an exact location?

It’s fun to open a thread like this. Something new gets an initial benefit of the doubt. Even so, I think this is probably going to be a good building. I went to the developer’s site and took a screen shot of River East site map. The location of the ParkView (if the site plan is still correct) might explain the lack of retail. It’s all the way at the end of the sliver of land between Ogden Slip and the river. To the east is LakeShoreDrive and as yet undeveloped DuSable Park.

Maybe the developer had to agree not to build anymore retail to entice retail tenants to the plaza on the north side of Ogden Slip. I wonder if a similar thing is going to happen at LakeShoreEast. Individual buildings won't be able to compete with each other for retail within the larger development. . .

Here’s the screen shot I just mentioned. The arrow points to the ParkView site.

http://images.snapfish.com/3434692723232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E2339%3D%3A9%3A%3D%3A28%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3A67787%3C3ot1lsi

^ even if the site is not all that conducive to ground floor retail, the base of this proposal could still use a complete redesign in my opinion.

I don't think that's where the Park View will be despite what it says on the map. When I called the number advertised in the paper, it said the corner of Illinois and McClurg which would put it directly east and across the street from RiverEast.

Anyone know if MCL has any low-rise stuff in the works? I really liked the Dearborn Park work they did and some of their other infill projects.

^???

Dearborn Park is the biggest disgrace in South Loop History

I agree with sharpie... retail or no retail, that base has got to be re-worked!!!

I also agree about the base. The brick front on the street level looks more like a wall blocking off the buidling and creating a defensive almost bunker like boundry between building and street. If they want to try something like this way not use the tiles to make some kind of mural or use another material that is not so defensive and more opening.

That base is hideous. WTF is that? The base looks like that ugly 1970s building from the Brady Bunch Movie.

That will look great. I love the glass.

Okay, the sales center for Park View Condominiums opened today, and I couldn't resist stopping buy, I mean it was so convenient seeing that the sales center is in the same building that I work in :)

I think that the base is going to be a lot better than what has so far been portrayed. What has been in the paper so far was just a computer generated rendering, so don't cross this one of your list just yet.

Well, as I stated before, this tower is going to be constructed on the southwest corner of Illinois and McClurg. A second tower of roughly 25-stories will be built in the northeast corner of Grand and Petshigo. There is no timetable yet set for the marketing and construction of the second tower. This land was formerly going to be the location of RiverEast Center II. That project isn't going to happen.
http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C867%3B583ot1lsi

The parking and swimming pool will stretch north along McClurg. From looking at the massing model and renderings at the sales center, it doesn't appear that this tower will have a hulking base. The residential units begin on the 3rd floor and go to the 46th floor.
http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp46%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C867%3B795ot1lsi

A 70,000 square foot park will seperate Park View tower from the future tower.
http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C867%3C%3A44ot1lsi

As I said, presently they only have a massing model in the sales center. A more detailed model will be presented in the near future.
http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C867%3C949ot1lsi

Here are a few more renderings that I took shots of, they aren't the best quality, and I will try to get better ones...
http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp46%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C867%3A%3B%3B6ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C867%3C463ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C867%3C566ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C867%3C26%3Bot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C8683337ot1lsi

Oh, and by the way, they just happened to include a mass rendering of the proposed LR Tower within their presentation billboards. This gives us some idea of the direction that they might possibly be going with this project.

This view would be looking towards the northeast.
http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C867%3B3%3A8ot1lsi

This view would be looking towards the northwest, thats Lakeshore Drive at the bottom of the image.
http://images.snapfish.com/34363%3A6323232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E23237%3C867%3C568ot1lsi

Looking good BVictor... thanks for the first-hand update... Its interesting in these times, when so much can be first seen or preordered on the internet and nowhere else, that one must actually *be there* at the sales center to get the first, and best information. I like the massing of this tower.

I like the larger tower... the smaller one, however, leaves something to be desired. It's a bit squat. I'm also very intrigued by the massing model of LR tower - I can't wait to see more on that one.

I've rethunk my opinions on teh base of the tower a bit after seeing some of those renderings. I still think it's a bit dead and unamazing (i coined a new word!), but it could be a whole lot worse.

And that LR tower does look intriguing.

As for the shorter building... blagh. Just from a general geometric sense, it doesn't look any more interesting than a bland Miami Beach hotel.

Well, I have some news about Parkview.

First of all, both of the MCL buildings that will be built on this land will be called Parkview. Today I got a chance to see a copy of the plans. A very nice gentleman from MCL Companies showed them to me.

The 47-story building that is currently being marketed is called Parkview West. The second phase which will roughly be 27-stories will be called Parkview East.

You guys will be happy to know that the height of the building to the top of the parapet wall is 506' 10", so you might as well say that is will be 507':) That 497' height figure is to the roof.

There will be a total of 850 parking spaces some of which will be public parking. I'm not 100% sure if this includes parking for residential units of the planned phase II,

There's no need to BITCH about the large number of parking spaces, because a 4 level parking deck will be built underground, and atop it will be that 70,000 sq ft. park that I mentioned before.

That's about all that I have foe now. They are hoping to break ground sometime before years end. As of last weekend, which was opening week, at least 55 of the 268 residential units had deposits placed upon them, so things are looking good for this one.

I'm surprised that they're going to be able to bury the parking underground that far east. Here's hoping the building doesn't end up sinking ala Chep Lap Kok (sp?) airport :)

What are you referring to about the sinking?

Well, seeing as how Streeterville is built on land that doesn't really exist... I wouldn't expect them to be able to bury the garage.

Well, seeing as how Streeterville is built on land that doesn't really exist... I wouldn't expect them to be able to bury the garage.

If I recall, River East has underground parking, the base of the building is the way it is because of the screens for the movie theatre. It can and will be gone. It will be expensive. You guys should be pleased, considering everyone bitches about above ground parking.

I just pulled these off of the Solomon Cordwell Buenz & Associates website.

http://63.240.68.115/FirmFiles/95/images/New%20Overall%2Ejpg

http://63.240.68.115/FirmFiles/95/images/new%20lobby%2Ejpg

http://63.240.68.115/FirmFiles/95/images/ext%2Dlobby%2Ejpg

http://63.240.68.115/FirmFiles/95/images/interior%2Dlobby%2Ejpg

Parkview Towers
Chicago, Illinois
In partnership with MCL Companies, SCB is designing the first phase of two buildings planned for the River East Development in Chicago. This new multi-family residential condominium building is a 48 story glass and copper building is located next to a new public park designed by Hargreaves and Associates. Below the parking is a 900 car parking garage. A second 28 story tower located at the eastern edge of the park will complete this spectacular new community.

No complaints here. At least it's not beige :)

They should hire Helmut Jahn to redesign the tower base.

Well, there is now an actual model for the tower instead of the cheap cardboard one.

http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2323%3D%3A49%3D348%3D3232%3A492574%3A5nu0mrj

The sun deck and swimming pool which is directly on the northside of the tower along McClurg Ct.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3232%3A49357%3B58nu0mrj

Looking southwest towards the base.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E2323958448%3A78ot1lsi

Looking southwest across the parkland from where the second tower will be located.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E2323958448%3A95ot1lsi

A water feature that will be located within the park.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E232395844%3B6%3C3ot1lsi

Looking west towards Parkview West from mid-park.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp3%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3232%3A4935%3A829nu0mrj

The glass wedge at the top of the tower.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp46%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E232395844%3B749ot1lsi

The looking towards the southern and eastern facades.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E2323%3D%3A49%3D348%3D3232%3A492574%3A7nu0mrj

Looking east across the proposed 70,000 sq ft. park.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E232395844%3B785ot1lsi

Looking east across McClurg Ct.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp46%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E232395844%3B794ot1lsi

Looking southwest at the eastern and northern facades.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2323%3D%3A49%3D348%3D3232%3A492574%3A9nu0mrj

The top of the northern facade.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E232395844%3B7%3B4ot1lsi

The model at nighttime.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D3232%3E958%3E257%3E23239583483%3B%3Aot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E2323%3D%3A49%3D348%3D3232%3A492574%3B3nu0mrj

I did find out that the part of the tower that appears to be brick is in fact copper. I don't know if this copper will be allowed to petina or if ot will be treated so that it remains the copper color.

Nice work once again.

Whew!

After looking at the model, I am much more impressed. I initially hated that base, but I'm starting to like it a bit more. That new park looks nice.

Did they tell you anything about sales, construction starts, etc at the sales center? Did they mention anything about when the park will be constructed?

Whew!

After looking at the model, I am much more impressed. I initially hated that base, but I'm starting to like it a bit more. That new park looks nice.

Did they tell you anything about sales, construction starts, etc at the sales center? Did they mention anything about when the park will be constructed?

I haven't asked, but seeing as I work in the same building as the sales center, I don't see why I can't get that info today.

http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp46%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E232395844%3B794ot1lsi

^ Thanks, Butler. BTW, any idea if there's retail planned in the space depicted here?

http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp46%3Dot%3E2329%3D959%3D583%3DXROQDF%3E232395844%3B794ot1lsi

^ Thanks, Butler. BTW, any idea if there's retail planned in the space depicted here?

Yes, I believe that is where the retail space will be. It can't be on the east side because of the park, it can't be on the southside because of the curved base, and on the northside is the garage entrance and exit.

Also I found out that there are 8 townhouses. They have their own private terrace on the pool deck.
http://images.snapfish.com/3443%3B%3A7523232%7Ffp3%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D3232%3A4935%3A829nu0mrj

--The orange/brown shingle like siding that everyone sees will be brushed copper. They will have a special coating on them to prevent them from the petina process.

--The lady in the sales center told me that they are about at the 50% mark and have begun to do contracts.

--Construction is expected to begin sometime in November.

Wow, 50% ! Damn.

Thanks, btw

Well, the Parkview West site is now fenced off. That parking lot is closed, and it looks like the will begin to pothole the site any time now. There is already an excavator on site. I will try to take some pictures, although nothing all too exciting has happened yet.

That's great to hear.

^ I walked by the area where this project will be last time I was in Chicago (a few days ago) and this is a GREAT development for that area. I can't wait

Well, the Parkview West site is now fenced off. That parking lot is closed, and it looks like the will begin to pothole the site any time now. There is already an excavator on site. I will try to take some pictures, although nothing all too exciting has happened yet.

Victor, can you remind me which street the actual highrise is going to face?

^ I walked by the area where this project will be last time I was in Chicago (a few days ago) and this is a GREAT development for that area. I can't wait

It's basically at the northeast corner of Illinois and McClurg. The base runs along McClurg.

I overlook this site from my place. Construction was suppose to begin in January however since then they have been excavating and brought in about 30 of these special container trucks. The signs around the site read "Environmental Remedification in process" with a specific number to call about inquries into it. Does anyone know what kind of toxic waste or other substance was found and how much this has delayed construction?

Probably Soil Remediation. Not too uncommon.

Here's hoping they don't have to plant remediatory plants all over the site. That shit takes years to clean up the soil and I seriously doubt the developer's willing to wait it out.

Has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but I just noticed you had a blog link in your signature. There are some great shots in there so maybe you should make an announcement or something on the random posts topic and hopefully people will comment.

MCL added this cool little 3D bird view of Parkview. Really gives a true feel of how it will look.

http://www.mclcompanies.com/live/parkview/pv_tour/site_media.htm

Takes a little while to load. Be patient!

^great video. worth the download time.

The park seems great and I like the addition of a fountain too. Nice how they left out a model of 500 LSD this time.

By Pherek on SSP (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2207646&postcount=1701)
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8507/200607260909op8.jpg

As much as I hate this project, I'm still thrilled to see it happening. This particular swath of Streeterville has always been so sparse!!!

By Pherek on SSP (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2207646&postcount=1701)
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I actually like this project, yes, lets keep it alive and updated, well lets hope that construction also as alive as us...lol! :)

Big hole, Parkview is rising fast. (from this afternoon)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/971/parkviewbj0.jpg

I'm not typically anti-development, but the Lofts at River East Art Center suck and I'd be happier if they were left alone.
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/9349/loftscv1gje9.jpg

^ Agreed, it wouldn't be as bad if they didn't have those stark white exposed walls above each banner. If it was all glass, all the way down I really would not mind it, other than the fact its probally slowing down Parkview East.