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desertpunk
January 21st, 2012, 12:08 PM
San Fran

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6553111699_9e44cc8b52_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyoza/6553111699/)
San Francisco Downtown (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyoza/6553111699/) by Kyo PR (http://www.flickr.com/people/kyoza/), on Flickr

desertpunk
January 23rd, 2012, 10:50 AM
Pittsburgh

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7033/6581115047_8b0a259069_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wade_bryant/6581115047/)
Pittsburgh skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wade_bryant/6581115047/) by Wade Bryant (http://www.flickr.com/people/wade_bryant/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6585666363_70f460c712_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wade_bryant/6585666363/)
6th Street - Roberto Clemente Bridge - Pittsburgh (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wade_bryant/6585666363/) by Wade Bryant (http://www.flickr.com/people/wade_bryant/), on Flickr

HK999
January 23rd, 2012, 12:00 PM
Pittsburgh's scenery couldn't be more beautiful, I mean those countless bridges... :drool: I hear Pittsburgh has more than Venice. Now if only some more (taller) skyscrapers would be built...

desertpunk
January 24th, 2012, 07:09 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6740280049_00874f5c31_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/onesevenone/6740280049/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/onesevenone/6740280049/) by onesevenone (http://www.flickr.com/people/onesevenone/), on Flickr

Sarcasticity
January 24th, 2012, 05:27 PM
Pittsburgh's scenery couldn't be more beautiful, I mean those countless bridges... :drool: I hear Pittsburgh has more than Venice. Now if only some more (taller) skyscrapers would be built...

I've read when I was young that P'Burg had like over 400 bridges but I could only count 15 :nuts:

desertpunk
January 25th, 2012, 08:33 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6746221997_6270341a0b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/6746221997/)
Times Square from Above #2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/6746221997/) by RBudhu (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanbudhu/), on Flickr

HK999
January 25th, 2012, 10:10 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6745358679_18a84f534f_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6745358679/)
The tallest building in New Jersey (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6745358679/) by Jason Pierce Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/jasonpiercephotography/) on Flickr

Can't wait till 1 and 4WTC are T/O! :cheers2:

isaidso
January 26th, 2012, 12:57 AM
What's that large glass skyscraper in the middle of the photo?

koolio
January 26th, 2012, 01:34 AM
That is the Goldman Sachs Building in NJ. Very similar to the IFC Building in Hong Kong designed by the same architect (except a fair bit shorter).

isaidso
January 26th, 2012, 08:06 AM
That is the Goldman Sachs Building in NJ. Very similar to the IFC Building in Hong Kong designed by the same architect (except a fair bit shorter).

I'd love a 420 m version of that in Toronto. It's a very muscular looking building and would balance out the skyline well. We need a counter point to Canadian National.

koolio
January 26th, 2012, 08:17 AM
A 420m version of that tower would look pretty much exactly like Number 2 IFC Tower in Hong Kong:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSuCEGZN3n1Jh2Isvd782RHLIqFm3v7KfUduVzk4IMaS1KqY_VJ

I do agree that we need a tower of this quality in Toronto (although not this exactly but rather something original). I've pretty much given up on that though because developers here don't seem interested in creating anything remotely iconic.

isaidso
January 26th, 2012, 12:09 PM
I actually prefer the proportions and detailing on the New Jersey building. A 420m version of that, but maybe a bit less squat. Regarding an iconic building for Toronto, I've almost given up as well. A lot will depend on how many businesses relocate to the core from the suburbs. No one can say we aren't patient; First Canadian Place has been Toronto's tallest for 37 years. When built it was the 6th tallest building in the world, now it's 76th. :nuts:

This was taken from a condo ad. Toronto's skyline is starting to come together, but it really needs an exclamation mark or 2. Despite no proposals over 300m, I'm eagerly awaiting this view circa 2015. :yes:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/989/rise2x.jpg
Courtesy of Monkeyronin


Okay, one more!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7030/6484400279_65298065f8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/6484400279/)
The Best View in Toronto, Plate 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/6484400279/) by Thomas Hawk (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomashawk/), on Flickr

desertpunk
January 29th, 2012, 03:24 PM
Philadelphia

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/rittenhouse-square-center-city-skyline-aerial-philadelphia-pennsylvania-19103-duncan-pearson.jpg
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/rittenhouse-square-center-city-skyline-aerial-philadelphia-pennsylvania-19103-duncan-pearson.html

dnh310
January 29th, 2012, 09:22 PM
Houston

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7027/6783354241_05aaba566b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jld3/6783354241/)
|ΞXІ+ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jld3/6783354241/) por Jim | jld3 photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/jld3/), en Flickr

dnh310
January 29th, 2012, 09:23 PM
Portland

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6777824841_508d0aa14f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmkeiner/6777824841/)
Ross Island HDR REVISITED 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmkeiner/6777824841/) por C.M. Keiner (http://www.flickr.com/people/cmkeiner/), en Flickr

dnh310
January 29th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Boston

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6763152937_4291f4a50c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31411957@N04/6763152937/)
Boston Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31411957@N04/6763152937/) por kokyaw21 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31411957@N04/), en Flickr

dnh310
January 29th, 2012, 09:25 PM
Miami

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6751510599_c49ee8a2d5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ant1_g/6751510599/)
Miami Cityscape. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ant1_g/6751510599/) por Ant1_G (http://www.flickr.com/people/ant1_g/), en Flickr

DZH22
January 31st, 2012, 01:59 PM
Boston Sunday from the "Observation Deck"

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1Jan2012Boston/IMG_2115.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1Jan2012Boston/IMG_2137.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1Jan2012Boston/IMG_2145.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1Jan2012Boston/IMG_2158.jpg

HK999
February 1st, 2012, 12:20 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7035/6778345201_a4ff998abb_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6778345201/)
Midtown Manhattan sunset through-the-window vertical pano (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6778345201/) by Jason Pierce Photography (roof-bound!) (http://www.flickr.com/people/jasonpiercephotography/) on Flickr

koolio
February 1st, 2012, 07:17 PM
Philadelphia


http://fineartamerica.com/featured/rittenhouse-square-center-city-skyline-aerial-philadelphia-pennsylvania-19103-duncan-pearson.html

Beauty!

Yellow Fever
February 2nd, 2012, 05:22 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6476940479_510de03852_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/a-vision/6476940479/)
FREE Canvas Print Give-away!! : Amazing Vancouver (PA303-A) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/a-vision/6476940479/) by a.Vision (http://www.flickr.com/people/a-vision/), on Flickr

isaidso
February 2nd, 2012, 03:09 PM
Postcard perfect!

desertpunk
February 3rd, 2012, 09:34 AM
Seattle

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5013/5433746813_3b848bda01_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelholden/5433746813/)
Boring shot of Seattle Skyline at Night from Rizal Park (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelholden/5433746813/) by Michael Holden (http://www.flickr.com/people/michaelholden/), on Flickr

dnh310
February 8th, 2012, 10:20 PM
Oklahoma

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6781934627_7dd69a8847_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kayneshots/6781934627/)
OKLAHOMA CITY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kayneshots/6781934627/) por .Kayne. (http://www.flickr.com/people/kayneshots/), en Flickr

desertpunk
February 10th, 2012, 11:17 AM
Where supertalls dance...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6418068285_72695356e4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stgrundy/6418068285/)
From one skyscraper to another (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stgrundy/6418068285/) by StGrundy (http://www.flickr.com/people/stgrundy/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6239/6389247175_5d301acd59_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stgrundy/6389247175/)
Chicago River from the Skydeck (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stgrundy/6389247175/) by StGrundy (http://www.flickr.com/people/stgrundy/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6035/6352918651_be49f6f934_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stgrundy/6352918651/)
Lakefront view of downtown Chicago (Explored) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stgrundy/6352918651/) by StGrundy (http://www.flickr.com/people/stgrundy/), on Flickr

HS
February 10th, 2012, 03:21 PM
Although my personal favourite is Chicago, I would like to admit Calgary has a great, dense skyline - one of the best IMO, considering city size.

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/115/255745250_7321c5936b_b.jpg
author: justpedalhard (http://www.flickr.com/photos/moriones/)

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4132/5086782270_547564e389_b.jpg
author: surrealplaces (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevincappis/)

desertpunk
February 10th, 2012, 05:41 PM
^
Calgary is terrific! :)



San Diego

http://media.utsandiego.com/img/photos/2012/01/27/ncblimp319928x011g_t900x507.jpg?f0f59a72572e9d2cb916629cab9e5c123f6c0555
http://www.utsandiego.com/photos/galleries/2012/jan/27/birds-eye-view-san-diego/

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7006/6542325295_543cb8486f_b.jpg
http://sdurban.com/?p=1546

HK999
February 10th, 2012, 08:59 PM
1WTC clearly visible... :cheers2:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6800000969_b2c4febef0_b.jpg[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=THE BIG APPLE;5584592]falconn67 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/falconn67/6800000969/)

lezgotolondon
February 11th, 2012, 12:31 AM
I think that north america and OZ/NZ have the best skylines ever.

in North america I prefer Chicago, NYC,Toronto, philadelphia for skyscrapers.

But as general skyline San Francisco and Vancouver are the best.

isaidso
February 11th, 2012, 01:12 AM
Calgary's going to be top 10 very soon; certainly a skyline to watch for.

Yellow Fever
February 11th, 2012, 08:13 AM
Its an old photo but its still worthto post. ;)


http://farm1.staticflickr.com/72/217440037_8ca190627e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuckincustoms/217440037/)
My Kinda Town (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuckincustoms/217440037/) by Stuck in Customs (http://www.flickr.com/people/stuckincustoms/), on Flickr

HK999
February 11th, 2012, 03:23 PM
New York's 4th skyline (after Midtown, Downtown and Brooklyn)- Jersey City:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pdoteter/6855477607/
pDOTeter (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pdoteter/)


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/6855477607_b130ece397_b.jpg

Super big: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/6855477607_3a8e0b9b4a_o.jpg

desertpunk
February 16th, 2012, 03:52 AM
Seattle

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6863249017_a6de68563b_b_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonymayphotography/

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6844742905_06afe6d75c_b_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonymayphotography/

HK999
February 16th, 2012, 01:43 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7207/6878538145_016bd41205_b.jpg
ajbrusteinthreesixfive (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajbrusteinthreesixfive/6878538145/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

Dralcoffin
February 16th, 2012, 04:15 PM
I see your New York and raise you a Chicago.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4153/5444888331_19e47c7d3a_b.jpg
Chicago Time by boffo1234567 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/boffo/5444888331/)

HK999
February 16th, 2012, 04:48 PM
^^ Very linear skyline, looking pretty good.

I see your New York and raise you a Chicago.


:D I love Chicago and always appreciate new pics from the Windy City! Keep them coming. :cheers2:

Yellow Fever
February 17th, 2012, 08:30 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7050/6861120943_8b7a0a73cc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/6861120943/)
Vancouver Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/6861120943/) by Clayton Perry Photoworks (http://www.flickr.com/people/claytonperry/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6861122809_d8b3d71440_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/6861122809/)
Vancouver Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/6861122809/) by Clayton Perry Photoworks (http://www.flickr.com/people/claytonperry/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7050/6861114117_16a96c4c5e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/6861114117/)
The Pan Pacific Hotel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/6861114117/) by Clayton Perry Photoworks (http://www.flickr.com/people/claytonperry/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez
February 17th, 2012, 10:46 PM
Philadelphia

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2465/6867943227413b0dd0f7b.jpg
Sky High (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rayceeeee/6867943227/) by •Ray• (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rayceeeee/), on Flickr
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7056/6887758005_56646aa118_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kameronwalsh/6887758005/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kameronwalsh/6887758005/) by kameron elisabeth (http://www.flickr.com/people/kameronwalsh/), on Flickr

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4852/13111329.jpg
by Emanuele De Lorenzi http://www.******************/search?q=Philadelphia&index=fotos&options=YToyOntzOjU6InN0YXJ0IjtzOjM6IjI4MCI7czo2OiJzb3J0YnkiO3M6ODoiZGF0ZXRpbWUiO30&pos=283&display=13111329
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

isaidso
February 18th, 2012, 09:59 AM
Very nice!

bobcat
February 18th, 2012, 02:22 PM
NYC and Chicago, the rest can hit the wall :D.

DZH22
February 18th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Boston from yesterday

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1Feb2012/IMG_3298.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1Feb2012/IMG_3248.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1Feb2012/IMG_3482.jpg

isaidso
February 19th, 2012, 02:43 AM
Those are the best Boston skyline shots I've seen. Is the tall shiny glass building in the last photo John Hancock?

HK999
February 19th, 2012, 01:51 PM
^^ What? I thought that was the Fringe Division HQ! :D

DZH22
February 19th, 2012, 04:05 PM
Is the tall shiny glass building in the last photo John Hancock?

The one and only. You can also see it towards the right in the second pic.

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1Feb2012/IMG_3307.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1Feb2012/IMG_3256.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1Feb2012/IMG_3570.jpg

Adrian12345Lugo
February 19th, 2012, 06:24 PM
Monterrey has a growing skyline

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^^ that is right...

One more pano taken yesterday by fermi t.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9255/panoramicamonterrey1001.jpg

isaidso
February 20th, 2012, 08:10 AM
The one and only. You can also see it towards the right in the second pic.


Does the company still go by the name 'John Hancock' or did they change to 'Manulife' like their parent company?

isaidso
February 20th, 2012, 09:45 AM
2 of our Toronto members did some work to depict changes happening in Toronto. The first shows plans directly west of the CBD in an area known as the Entertainment District. The second is a set of 3 models of the CBD to Yorkville. Of course there's lots of development in Toronto beyond these 2 areas, but they do illustrate how quickly the skyline is changing.

The Entertainment district, U/C or proposed (massing)

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/innsertnamehere/asdad.png
Courtesy of Insertnamehere

CBD north to Yorkville, Jarvis west to University Avenue

Built
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8644/to001.jpg

Under Construction
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6876/to002.jpg

Proposed
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6240/to003.jpg
Courtesy of Andrewjm3D

DZH22
February 21st, 2012, 07:15 AM
Does the company still go by the name 'John Hancock' or did they change to 'Manulife' like their parent company?

The tower is still called the John Hancock Tower. It has a mix of companies working in the tower, and I'm not even sure if the namesake is one of them. I don't expect the building to change its name like the Sears Tower did, and I would be pretty pissed if it happened! :bash:

HK999
February 21st, 2012, 07:49 PM
Amazing what's going on in Toronto. As discussed before, all that city needs is at least a nice supertall.

Meanwhile in New York, the new WTC is making its prominence more and more visible...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/6914019367_9f403bb3b0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/18188939@N06/6914019367/)
Lower Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/18188939@N06/6914019367/) by davideglasgow (http://www.flickr.com/people/18188939@N06/) on Flickr

isaidso
March 1st, 2012, 11:52 PM
Vancouver

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3384/3433630778_089539aff4_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3331/3432796955_839bffe490_b.jpg
Photos by TIA International Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/3432796955/in/set-72157616561767347/

DZH22
March 2nd, 2012, 01:15 AM
^^^ Needs more talls. The Ritz is really the saving grace of that skyline. Looks impressive, but doesn't have the scale of many of the other cities on this thread. (all the residential towers with their high floor counts give off a nice illusion though) Is that twisting 600' tower still going to happen?

Eddie12e
March 2nd, 2012, 03:21 AM
http://www.newthinks.info/avatar3.jpgChicago

isaidso
March 2nd, 2012, 05:12 AM
^^^ Needs more talls. The Ritz is really the saving grace of that skyline. Looks impressive, but doesn't have the scale of many of the other cities on this thread. (all the residential towers with their high floor counts give off a nice illusion though) Is that twisting 600' tower still going to happen?

I agree with that. Vancouver looks great from most angles, but it needs some large skyscrapers. I still have it in my north American top 10, but only barely. I believe that twisty tower will be built.

Eduardo L. Ramirez
March 3rd, 2012, 04:32 PM
New York

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/6796726662_8d90dc74b0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aussiebrownes/6796726662/)
IMG_0972 - Version 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aussiebrownes/6796726662/) by Aussie Browne (http://www.flickr.com/people/aussiebrownes/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez
March 4th, 2012, 09:08 PM
Toronto

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/2089/680446492489cb98beeab.jpg
by HungarianSM http://www.flickr.com/photos/68970630@N06/6804464924/
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)


Boston

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8887/6950995295ce0497a636b.jpg
by jds56 http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnstudio/6950995295/
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

dnh310
March 4th, 2012, 09:16 PM
Miami

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/6778280484_f99ff5563b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kirbsmc/6778280484/)
Miami at Night (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kirbsmc/6778280484/) por kirbsmc (http://www.flickr.com/people/kirbsmc/), en Flickr

superbigshow1997
March 5th, 2012, 04:15 AM
Ok so recently I saw some photos of memphis and wanted to compare one of my favorite cities with it, Milwaukee. so I found some different photos for you guys to look at and wanted to know your opinion, which city has a more impressive skyline? Love to hear all your comments! :) (these are not my pix all thanks to the people who took them)

Milwaukee

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles10452.jpg
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7929/010816ih8xj2.jpg
http://www.city-data.com/forum/members/milwaukee-city-474500-albums-milwaukee-city-pic24619-a.jpg
http://www.city-data.com/forum/image.php?u=474500&dateline=1237521150&type=profile

Memphis
http://www.uthsc.edu/images/skyline.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/32000179.jpg
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1617376976775&id=df0c31220eb5fa9d0ec8495be1e2fa2e&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.justdaniel.com%2fblog%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2009%2f10%2fskyline-b1024.jpg


What do you think?

kingchef
March 5th, 2012, 06:18 AM
good clarity and definition on milky, one good shot off of hernando-desoto bridge in memphis. obviously, you weren't going for the downtown frontage in memphis, which is about 5.5 miles on the 4 bluffs. pretty buildings of what was shown in milky, but not representative of the business district nor the downtown area. memphis wiki photo is terrible re: clarity and inclusion. 32 story pyramid building and st. jude medical center, harbortown and pinch district in north memphis left out of shot, downtown medical center left out of shot, rivermark building, horizon building, the triple bridges, bluffhaus, and south main district downtown left out.

try bill cobb, urban photos, memphis, and then try new shots by checking collierville photography, downtown aerials, south, north, east, and west. chuck is the photographer. he also has some on memphis forum in photos by chuck, CD. i know these have some new buildings in the portfolio. let us know. kingchef

superbigshow1997
March 5th, 2012, 11:08 PM
Ok, I get all that but iw as still wondering which skyline is more impressive?

kingchef
March 5th, 2012, 11:59 PM
i went back to review what cobb has on urban photos. memphis has several things missing, as most of the shots are from 2005. milky probably has the same situation. however, though memphis has completed some major development in downtown, south forum district, and the river front, i would have to say that some of the shots that i viewed of downtown milky, the promenade, river front, and the obviously new highrises made milky my favorite, for now.

i love memphis's old stock buildings, and i appreciate the preservation of buildings, but memphis needs to promote the cbd and get some corporations and private investors to build some impressive skyscrapers. much of memphis' business district is located in the second core of the city, about 11 miles east of the river. too, there have been huge corporate office parks built, which cover huge amounts of acreage. these are not industrial parks, and they are not inclusive of several corporations. fedex is a massive corporate headquarters, and it has its presence in other places in the city, including the sorting facility at the airport. ups is similar, medtronic, service master, lenox office park, etc. could have easily been large skyscrapers downtown, but they chose to spread to campus-style settings. the same w/ international paper. it built three beautiful buildings in blue glass and steel. two are about 10 stories and one is 11 or 12. it would have been nice to see this building as a highrise/scraper.

memphis needs a real change to its skyline. currently, downtown has construction started, approved, or planned to begin this quarter: 11 story luxury hilton and a 11 story mixed use retail/parking garage. the lst 2 levels will be for retail. the marriot-covention center is due to begin a 160 room addition to the current building. the pyramid is being renovated, and a 7 story hotel will be connected to it. st. jude is beginning a 2nd mirror image of a 3 yr old building, 8 stories, which will be connected by an 8 story atrium.
the renovation of a 21 story downtown medical center building from a closed holiday inn to a extended stay hyatt, the new bio-defense lab is under construction at the downtown baptist research park, along w/ the 4 8 story towers, w/ which the lab will connect. 3 story school of nursing and biotech building for southwest college. 4 story mirror addition to the downtown cancer research building, connected by a large atrium. a 6 story family practice center for the downtown medical center for the u of tn, floor additions to the new va med center hospital, 2 9 story parking garages for the va hospital. 2 additional floors to the college of optometry in midtown. current building of 9 4 story residential housing on the island. completion of the last phase of the riverfront project underway.

memphis does have at least 5 known "on hold" projects for highrises from 22 to as many as 42 stories. 1 beale street is currently overdue by more than 2 years. i have been told that it could be another 5 years to see it begin. who knows? there is a great deal of building, but everything seems to be stuck at 16 stories or less. some say it is because of the euclidian laws memphis proper has imposed, others say it is politics, developers, land speculators, etc. probably a little of all.

i love the old german architecture of milky. it has been a long time since i lived there, and about 10 years since my last visit. i am a native of chicago, so when i visit, i remain in chicago. nevertheless, milky and memphis do have some sections that are very similar, but i have to give the overall to milky. props.

superbigshow1997
March 6th, 2012, 03:44 AM
I didnt know that memphis had new developments and proposed ones either which is exciting to me because i would love to see memphis grow. also the same with milwaukee, many new skyscrapers, buildings and differents attractions waiting to be approved and already are some in progress, such as The Moderne, and proposed projects like washington sqaure complex. I hope to learn more about these developments and find new pictures to post to see which skyline is now currently more impressive. personally i love the city of milwaukee i used to live there myself and know how cool and "homey" the city is and personally i love "milkys" skyline. new posts to come tell me what you guys think about these 2 awesome cities!!

keck
March 6th, 2012, 05:10 AM
Who took the vision a good thing. http://www.spgames.info/g.gif

Yellow Fever
March 6th, 2012, 08:51 AM
Sorry! skyline vs skyline discussions are not allowed in the photos forum. I'm going to merge this thread with the "Discuss: Best North American Skyline" thread in the Urban Hall of Fame forum where you can continue your discussion.

DZH22
March 6th, 2012, 01:58 PM
Sorry! skyline vs skyline discussions are not allowed in the photos forum. I'm going to merge this thread with the "Discuss: Best North American Skyline" thread in the Urban Hall of Fame forum where you can continue your discussion.

And..... this would explain why the last 10 posts have been Memphis vs. Milwaukee. Clearly, Milwaukee has the better skyline, but neither of them have any business on this thread (even if you were to extend it to top 25 or 30).

desertpunk
March 7th, 2012, 09:59 PM
Philly

http://hiddencityphila.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/kenzo_skyline_el.jpg
http://www.nathanielpopkin.net/essays

superbigshow1997
March 8th, 2012, 03:20 AM
im gonna say milwaukee becuase in my own opinion i dont love cities that have tons of skyscrapers and everything i like quality class and beauty milwaukee has the all of that.

isaidso
March 8th, 2012, 11:07 AM
Montreal

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9558/68036707617382d0c436o.jpg
Courtesy of Vince B

Eduardo L. Ramirez
March 8th, 2012, 04:25 PM
Los Angeles

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/6963733117_535afe49a4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw4pix/6963733117/)
0574 The Angels (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw4pix/6963733117/) by SBA John Wiley (http://www.flickr.com/people/jw4pix/), on Flickr


San Francisco

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/6816300768_b47955ea29_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/telstar/6816300768/)
State of the City, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/telstar/6816300768/) by Telstar Logistics (http://www.flickr.com/people/telstar/), on Flickr

Yellow Fever
March 8th, 2012, 11:45 PM
SF needs some supertalls to make it to the next level.

desertpunk
March 9th, 2012, 12:05 AM
SF needs some supertalls to make it to the next level.

One's in the works! :)

Yellow Fever
March 9th, 2012, 12:14 AM
which one and how tall?

isaidso
March 9th, 2012, 08:00 AM
I thought they cancelled Trans Bay?

AndrewJM3D
March 9th, 2012, 08:54 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/6820011678_62e2df36f9_b.jpg

desertpunk
March 9th, 2012, 07:57 PM
which one and how tall?

Transbay Tower which will be 1,070 ft. (trimmed down from 1,200 ft)

http://www.hines.com/toolkit_images/Project%20Photos/Transbay%20Tower/Transbay%20Tower%20Rendering_lres_web
http://www.hines.com/property/detail.aspx?id=2120

I thought they cancelled Trans Bay?

It's only delayed. With a tightening office market in SF, Transbay Tower should begin construction by 2014. The massive Transbay Center below is already under construction.

Yellow Fever
March 9th, 2012, 08:48 PM
hate that when those @#$%^& city law makers always like to reduce the proposed buildings height. Anyway, it'd still be quite a lot taller than the current tallest one in SF.

desertpunk
March 9th, 2012, 09:58 PM
hate that when those @#$%^& city law makers always like to reduce the proposed buildings height. Anyway, it'd still be quite a lot taller than the current tallest one in SF.

The TransAmerica Tower will forever be the city's tallest north of Market St. thanks to rigorous codes. So ironically, they have preservation of the most NIMBY-hated building ever by...NIMBYs! :lol:

desertpunk
March 10th, 2012, 03:42 AM
Incredible Montreal :)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7037/6810898540_94dab5d250_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nizega/6810898540/)
Montreal - View from Mont-Royal to downtown (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nizega/6810898540/) by nizega (http://www.flickr.com/people/nizega/), on Flickr

desertpunk
March 10th, 2012, 05:00 AM
Chicago

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6191/6098081605_cddbf37095_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajbrustein/6098081605/)
A Sliver of Sunshine (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajbrustein/6098081605/) by AJ Brustein (http://www.flickr.com/people/ajbrustein/), on Flickr

Yellow Fever
March 10th, 2012, 06:05 AM
chicago skyline looks wonderful in the sunset setting.

HK999
March 10th, 2012, 01:24 PM
I love that brown tone of NY in the evening...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6820344590_21d7f8ae94_b.jpg
Nomad Ka942 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70806227@N06/6820344590/sizes/l/in/photostream/)


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6793917523_5b1a3bd10c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6793917523/)
~ The Freedom Tower is rising ~ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6793917523/) by Leah / euroswiss2003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28311393@N02/) on Flickr

Jewels of Lower Manhattan...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/6965185259_c8d83e9e48_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6965185259/)
~ day 158 ~ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28311393@N02/6965185259/) by Leah / euroswiss2003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28311393@N02/) on Flickr

desertpunk
March 10th, 2012, 10:40 PM
Atlanta Midtown skyline

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7037/6849217069_c74e9389de_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajbrustein/6849217069/)
Tilford Sunrise (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajbrustein/6849217069/) by AJ Brustein (http://www.flickr.com/people/ajbrustein/), on Flickr

koolio
March 11th, 2012, 03:51 AM
SF needs some supertalls to make it to the next level.

Even though SF certainly would not suffer from having a supertall, I actually think that their current skyline is extremely well composed and balanced as it is. A city that truly needs a few supertalls is Toronto. We need some 350-400m buildings to offset the visual impact of the CN Tower.

Dallas star
March 11th, 2012, 05:01 AM
Read the last Tag.

kingchef
March 11th, 2012, 07:36 AM
liked the montreal photo. it is such a beautiful city and so full of wonderful architecture. any chance you have a nice day shot that includes notre dame cathedral and square? i want so badly to go back and stay about three weeks, but i just don't know when i will be able to do it. thanks dessertpunk for posting the night shot. also, loved the b'ham picture and those memphis shots. so much of that stuff is gone now, but it is fun to see what i missed. i remember that parisian's downtown, it closed probably w/in the last 18-20 years. the atlanta shots i always know from the capital building. brings back my earliest memories of driving in to town w/ family to visit family in the early 70's and donna summer was on the radio sininging macarthur park. the other bit hit of the time was the single hit by the name of "don't leave me this way, i can't survive, can't stay alive w/out your love...lawd, i'm about to bust a move. just good memories, thanks for all of your sharing and your knowledge.

kingchef
March 11th, 2012, 08:01 AM
to me, there is no skyline in north america that will be more impressive in content, variety, setting, and density than nyc. and, i agree w/ yellowfever, sf, just like cities that build 75 30 story buildings in their downtowns or 18 story buildings in the cbd, pretty soon you begin to see a large block. that, to me, is a criticism of sf, even though it has some very interestly shaped buildings, some very well known by recognition of many americans. a second criticism of sf is the small choppy buildings surrounding the downtown. they do nothing to add an attractive element to the city, and the photo shown is very unflattering. i know many think boston is not an attractive town, but i think that it is more photogenic than sf. finally, i think seattle is an attractive city, and it could possibly hold a position as a contender in a top 25 or 30 north am cities.

desertpunk
March 12th, 2012, 02:20 AM
LA

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6263530281_505b8cb0c5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sfxeric/6263530281/)
Ghost LA 3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sfxeric/6263530281/) by sfxeric (http://www.flickr.com/people/sfxeric/), on Flickr

hhhhh
March 12th, 2012, 04:34 AM
AMAZING PICS.
All the cities are very beautiful.

isaidso
March 14th, 2012, 05:49 AM
Is it true that palms aren't native to southern California and they've all been planted?

Lancelot28
March 14th, 2012, 09:40 AM
http://www.datamar.info/avatar3.jpgEven though SF certainly would not suffer from having a supertall, I actually think that their current skyline is extremely well composed and balanced as it is.

isaidso
March 14th, 2012, 10:13 AM
Toronto north of the central business district is starting to get dramatically taller. There are 2 buildings over 200m in the early stages of construction in this frame, 2 more that have been proposed, and too many to count in the 100m-200m range. This area will improve a lot in the next few years, especially in terms of design. There's always been a marked drop off in sophistication as one ventured north of the CBD, but this is starting to change. My only criticism is that it's too condo focused; a few large office buildings would help matters tremendously.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/6976465825_0f044944bc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6976465825/)
The New NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6976465825/) by Neil Ta | I am Bidong (http://www.flickr.com/people/neilta/), on Flickr

yankeesfan1000
March 14th, 2012, 07:36 PM
Great pic of Toronto. It is really surprising how many of the new projects there are residential, as in general most high rise buildings are offices. Definitely exciting to think about what the skyline is going to look like in 10 years or so.

isaidso
March 15th, 2012, 02:37 AM
In most Canadian cities, the majority of the high rises are office buildings but Toronto and Vancouver are exceptions. High house prices and a growing population have resulted in an explosion in condo construction. It's the only affordable option for many people. A similar situation exists in Manhattan except the population growth is lower.

Another factor skewing things heavily in towards condos in Toronto is the concentration of office buildings in the suburbs. The majority of Toronto office space is there, not downtown. Increasingly, office workers are demanding to be downtown and employers are responding. I'm hopeful that this trend will gain more momentum going forward.

Cal_Escapee
March 15th, 2012, 10:43 AM
Is it true that palms aren't native to southern California and they've all been planted?

No. The "classic" southern Ca palm is the Washingtonia robusta or Mexican fan palm which is native to the nearby regions of Sonora and Baja California. However, the related Washingtonia fillifera or California fan palm is native to southern CA deserts.

A native grove of California fan palm near Palm Springs:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Washingtonia_filifera.jpg/220px-Washingtonia_filifera.jpg
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washingtonia_filifera

Cal_Escapee
March 15th, 2012, 10:47 AM
http://www.datamar.info/avatar3.jpgEven though SF certainly would not suffer from having a supertall, I actually think that their current skyline is extremely well composed and balanced as it is.

The SF Planning Department doesn't agree. In their opinion they would like to see a 3-humped skyline as viewed from the Bay near the Bay Bridge with the central hump being the tallest and composed of the 1000 ft Transbay Tower and a couple of nearby towers almost as tall. The left hump would be a cluster of condo towers on Rincon Hill including the existing One Rincon Hill, and the right hump would be the TransAmerica, Bank of America and nearby towers, all currently existing.

DZH22
March 15th, 2012, 02:56 PM
Boston

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1March2012/IMG_4500.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1March2012/IMG_4453.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1March2012/IMG_4503.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1March2012/IMG_4905.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1March2012/IMG_4903.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1March2012/IMG_4762.jpg

desertpunk
March 18th, 2012, 10:48 AM
NYC

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7042/6939885129_ce3c88356b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6939885129/)
Pink minute -> it happens a moment before blue hour (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6939885129/) by Jason Pierce Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/jasonpiercephotography/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6907255107_72c2d0f8e8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6907255107/)
NYC den city (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6907255107/) by Jason Pierce Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/jasonpiercephotography/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7180/6920931155_a29c4fa748_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6920931155/)
Federal Reserve Bank of New York (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6920931155/) by Jason Pierce Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/jasonpiercephotography/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6827230883_76387e5fdd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6827230883/)
Empire State Building dressed for the Giants' Superbowl victory before it even happened. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/6827230883/) by Jason Pierce Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/jasonpiercephotography/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez
March 19th, 2012, 02:01 AM
^ Great pictures :cheers2:


Toronto

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6848413138_5b1caff713_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cobby17/6848413138/)
Toronto (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cobby17/6848413138/) by Cobby17 (http://www.flickr.com/people/cobby17/), on Flickr

desertpunk
March 19th, 2012, 02:52 AM
For all the construction in TO, I'm seeing all kinds of room for more! ;)

Jay
March 19th, 2012, 03:40 AM
Transbay Tower which will be 1,070 ft. (trimmed down from 1,200 ft)

http://www.hines.com/toolkit_images/Project%20Photos/Transbay%20Tower/Transbay%20Tower%20Rendering_lres_web
http://www.hines.com/property/detail.aspx?id=2120



It's only delayed. With a tightening office market in SF, Transbay Tower should begin construction by 2014. The massive Transbay Center below is already under construction.

It might actually start construction next year...

There will also be many other buildings that go along with it further down the road.

hhapo51dh
March 19th, 2012, 03:46 AM
NY is the clear winner by far. It's core is unbelievably dense and just plain awe inspiring. There is no other city in NA that even comes close to the breadth of architecture and sheer enormity of NY.http://www.australialuxe.info/013-3.jpg
http://www.australialuxe.info/huang3.jpg
http://www.australialuxe.info/huang2.jpg

koolio
March 19th, 2012, 07:35 AM
For all the construction in TO, I'm seeing all kinds of room for more! ;)

You are right but that picture is kinda misleading. That area in roughly the middle is actually a park whereas that green patch of land at the bottom left hand corner is the historic Fort York.

isaidso
March 19th, 2012, 06:01 PM
You are right but that picture is kinda misleading. That area in roughly the middle is actually a park whereas that green patch of land at the bottom left hand corner is the historic Fort York.

True, but Toronto's core could double in size before it starts looking filled out. It's dense, but we've only just started to build skyscrapers between the CBD and Yorkville while East Bayfront and the waterfront won't be complete for another 5 years.

yankeesfan1000
March 20th, 2012, 01:53 AM
Totally random question, but is there any sort of plan to do something with that highway that sort of cuts Toronto off from its waterfront? Unfortunately I've never been to Toronto, but closer to the CBD, sort of where the LTower is being built there's that unfortunate looking rail yard looking area, any plans with that too? Thanks, sorry for taking this off topic, always wondered about that though.

isaidso
March 20th, 2012, 03:39 AM
Torontonians have been debating what to do with the Gardiner (highway) and the rail lines for a very long time. We've resigned ourselves to the fact that we are stuck with both the way they are and trying to turn a perceived negative into something workable and positive.

They both cut the city off from the lake, but new developments built right up against each are helping stitch the city back together while better north-south connections are making a huge difference. Regarding Union Station, it's undergoing a massive renovation and expansion. The rail shed is being torn down and replaced by an airy glass canopy with a green roof.

Here's a render of the new rail shed:

http://top100projects.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/union_3.jpg

http://archiseek.com/wp-content/gallery/news-2010/canada-to-unionstation5.jpg

desertpunk
March 20th, 2012, 05:17 AM
^^

Me likey! :)

Eduardo L. Ramirez
March 21st, 2012, 12:21 AM
Seattle

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/6998627689_ca1b18a98a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/psychasec/6998627689/)
Seattle Skyline - from Bhy Kracke Park (http://www.flickr.com/photos/psychasec/6998627689/) by PsychaSec (http://www.flickr.com/people/psychasec/), on Flickr


San Francisco

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6042/6853200838_d1fb937b18_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/exxonvaldez/6853200838/)
"Bliss Dance" by Marco Cochrane (http://www.flickr.com/photos/exxonvaldez/6853200838/) by exxonvaldez (http://www.flickr.com/people/exxonvaldez/), on Flickr

anak_mm
March 21st, 2012, 11:36 AM
^^ awesome...

yankeesfan1000
March 21st, 2012, 02:15 PM
Thanks for the answer. Always wondered if they would still be there, or in their current forms in another 15-20 years.

royal rose1
March 21st, 2012, 02:50 PM
Is it true that palms aren't native to southern California and they've all been planted?

Absolutely not, I am from San Diego, born and raised. And San Diego is a city full of canyons, if you've been there I'm sure you've noticed. Canyons are basically the one untouched pieces of land there, and at the bottom of the canyons there are streams where water is abundant, the only place where water is abundant in San Diego haha. Anyway, those streams at the bottom of canyons are typically filled with native natural palms.

Dralcoffin
March 21st, 2012, 05:10 PM
Sorry Memphis, but how did you become a tag on here?

Chicago: Come and show me another city with lifted head singing so proud to be alive and coarse and strong and cunning. (Carl Sandburg)

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9072/chicagolights1191505xl.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/6953630061_1b7641ffa7_b.jpg
Chicago sunrise by kballey - Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/68990520@N03/6953630061/)

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1079/923818124_0f2be0fdd1_z.jpg?zz=1
Chicago Skyline by SolarWind - Chicago - Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/solarwind-chicago/923818124/)

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4003/4654458263_0b5c7647b9_b.jpg
Chicago at Night by matt-f - Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/matt-f/4654458263/)

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4036/4715202144_8440c68302_b.jpg
Chicago Storm June 18, 2010 by Doug Siefken - Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/siefken/4715202144/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7202/6953553149_cdc9e21af8_b.jpg
untitled by taciturnus - Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/11760886@N07/6953553149/)

A very underrated skyline that is small but wonderfully dense, Pittsburgh

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3641/3518456572_e798a7a72a_b.jpg
Pittsburgh at Night HDR by jstrak - Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35637126@N02/3518456572/)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3111/2788578962_7e5e9d87d8_b.jpg
Downtown Pittsburgh by J Blough - Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jblough/2788578962/)

royal rose1
March 21st, 2012, 05:33 PM
^^ agreed, pittsburgh is like a smaller, landlocked Seattle

Dimethyltryptamine
March 21st, 2012, 06:13 PM
Wow, that photo of San Fran on the previous page!

desertpunk
March 22nd, 2012, 01:49 AM
Philadelphia

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7193/6846947090_6e5297be42_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard_micco/6846947090/)
Philadelphia Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard_micco/6846947090/) by Richard Micco (http://www.flickr.com/people/richard_micco/), on Flickr

royal rose1
March 22nd, 2012, 02:09 AM
^^ I've always thought of Philadelphia as having the World's classiest skyline, as ironic as that might be. It's just a beautiful skyline that really works all times of the year, from all angles.

Dralcoffin
March 22nd, 2012, 03:36 AM
I love how Philadelphia's skyline looks so modern from a distance, but the streets downtown are dripping with historic architecture. It's really the best of both worlds. Thanks, Billy Penn's statue, your height limit created quite a remarkable skyline. If I had to move to the Northeast in fact, Philadelphia would be my first choice.

Eduardo L. Ramirez
March 22nd, 2012, 09:57 PM
Minneapolis

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6053/6857986170_cd0b94813e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jtmillphoto/6857986170/)
Mill_View of Minneapolis Skyline Sunrise_Close Up (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jtmillphoto/6857986170/) by JtMillerPhotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/jtmillphoto/), on Flickr


San Francisco

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7073/6858480986_d2a3be3c4c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffcheah/6858480986/)
DSC_5920(web) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffcheah/6858480986/) by Jeff Cheah (http://www.flickr.com/people/jeffcheah/), on Flickr


Cincinnati

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3333/68586526022aabf5b1e7b.jpg
Cincinnati Skyline at Night (http://www.flickr.com/photos/beetle662/6858652602/) by beetle662 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/beetle662/), on Flickr
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)


Dallas

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6095/6859986646_e3ca0c0193_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigredwill/6859986646/)
_MG_8430 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigredwill/6859986646/) by William Christie (http://www.flickr.com/people/bigredwill/), on Flickr

isaidso
March 22nd, 2012, 11:48 PM
Vancouver

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7208/6844876708_ab673bf76b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55149211@N07/6844876708/)
L1150017 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55149211@N07/6844876708/) by ptjmfam (http://www.flickr.com/people/55149211@N07/), on Flickr

royal rose1
March 23rd, 2012, 01:59 AM
CHARLOTTE

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5181/5617839630_b0dd9c1370_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbtuohy/5617839630/)
Charlotte Sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbtuohy/5617839630/) by jbtuohy (http://www.flickr.com/people/jbtuohy/)

HK999
March 23rd, 2012, 02:44 PM
WTC rising...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/7007514579_e9540b59da_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninawolfe/7007514579/)
slowly but surely... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninawolfe/7007514579/) by Nina Wolfe Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/ninawolfe/) on Flickr

desertpunk
March 24th, 2012, 08:05 AM
NYC

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6034/6859500510_5119c6b074_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelrnyc/6859500510/)
1WTC - FiDi Sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelrnyc/6859500510/) by Joel Raskin (http://www.flickr.com/people/joelrnyc/), on Flickr

desertpunk
March 24th, 2012, 09:40 PM
Seattle

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/6806123118_177b17eeed_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/absolutwade/6806123118/)
Seattle (http://www.flickr.com/photos/absolutwade/6806123118/) by absolutwade (http://www.flickr.com/people/absolutwade/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6806219230_2e15509906_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/absolutwade/6806219230/)
monorail (http://www.flickr.com/photos/absolutwade/6806219230/) by absolutwade (http://www.flickr.com/people/absolutwade/), on Flickr

desertpunk
March 24th, 2012, 10:00 PM
Dallas

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7034/6773829009_727f0aa206_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisjonesfoto/6773829009/)
Dallas Skyline on a Friday evening... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisjonesfoto/6773829009/) by chrisjonesfoto (http://www.flickr.com/people/chrisjonesfoto/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/7008424671_b529aa34f1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigredwill/7008424671/)
Untitled_Panorama0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigredwill/7008424671/) by William Christie (http://www.flickr.com/people/bigredwill/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez
March 26th, 2012, 10:45 PM
Vancouver

>>>

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3686/27444933.jpg
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isaidso
March 27th, 2012, 07:43 AM
Toronto
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6161/6259082230_97fa3177b5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zenslens/6259082230/)
Leave the lights on (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zenslens/6259082230/) by ZensLens (http://www.flickr.com/people/zenslens/), on Flickr

pilotgrrl
March 28th, 2012, 06:24 AM
It's Chicago for me...today is Mies's birthday and the Google doodle is an abstract drawing of Crown Hall, one of many architectural gems on the IIT campus... Osaka's got some neat buildings, like the Umeda Sky building (and a mosaic of La Grande Jatte in one of the underground transit tunnels). I can find at least one good piece of architecture no matter where I go.

isaidso
March 28th, 2012, 10:21 AM
Speaking of Mies, the 3rd photo showcases his Toronto masterpiece.

Toronto
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6989701265_08bd73e3af_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6989701265/)
Now I Know the Difference from Gold and Brass (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6989701265/) by Neil Ta | I am Bidong (http://www.flickr.com/people/neilta/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/6976465825_0f044944bc_b.jpg
by Neil Ta | I am Bidong (http://www.flickr.com/people/neilta/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6747019289_81d314a4e5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dexxus/6747019289/)
vertical limit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dexxus/6747019289/) by paul (dex) (http://www.flickr.com/people/dexxus/), on Flickr

HK999
March 28th, 2012, 01:02 PM
^^ Looks like Manhattan, damn! :D One of the best TO pics I've seen so far.

isaidso
March 28th, 2012, 10:13 PM
It's starting to come together in Toronto. Let the good times roll!

Vancouver
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6813320501_e1d6565ae1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markdonovanvancouver/6813320501/)
Panorama of Vancouver- looking West from Burnaby Mountain and SFU. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markdonovanvancouver/6813320501/) by Mark Donovan Vancouver (http://www.flickr.com/people/markdonovanvancouver/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez
March 28th, 2012, 11:44 PM
Toronto
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6989701265_08bd73e3af_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6989701265/)
Now I Know the Difference from Gold and Brass (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6989701265/) by Neil Ta | I am Bidong (http://www.flickr.com/people/neilta/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/6976465825_0f044944bc_b.jpg
by Neil Ta | I am Bidong (http://www.flickr.com/people/neilta/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6747019289_81d314a4e5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dexxus/6747019289/)
vertical limit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dexxus/6747019289/) by paul (dex) (http://www.flickr.com/people/dexxus/), on Flickr

Fantastic pics of Toronto! :applause:


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Los Angeles

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7235/7024307195_744798a1dd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/socialretard/7024307195/)
Downtown Los Angeles (http://www.flickr.com/photos/socialretard/7024307195/) by The.Erik.Estrada (http://www.flickr.com/people/socialretard/), on Flickr



Houston

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7020937175_2bed479238_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kylecolby/7020937175/)
Smoggy Foggy Houston (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kylecolby/7020937175/) by Kyle Colby Jones (http://www.flickr.com/people/kylecolby/), on Flickr



Mexico City
Reforma skyline

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7242/7020601391_d3689d8465_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frank111274/7020601391/)
Mexico City Reforma Polanco Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frank111274/7020601391/) by Frank 111274 (http://www.flickr.com/people/frank111274/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7068/6874450952_41cf35318f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frank111274/6874450952/)
Mexico City Reforma Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frank111274/6874450952/) by Frank 111274 (http://www.flickr.com/people/frank111274/), on Flickr

desertpunk
March 29th, 2012, 12:47 AM
NYC

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7099/7019989721_fbd056f4be_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/11606523@N06/7019989721/)
Carpe Diem ll in New York, USA. March, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/11606523@N06/7019989721/) by Tom Turner - SeaTeamImages / AirTeamImages (http://www.flickr.com/people/11606523@N06/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez
March 30th, 2012, 11:46 PM
Honolulu

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6882378684_95048923e1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/boydbrooks999/6882378684/)
POLYNESIAN ALPENGLOW (http://www.flickr.com/photos/boydbrooks999/6882378684/) by boydbrooks999 (http://www.flickr.com/people/boydbrooks999/), on Flickr

Yellow Fever
March 31st, 2012, 09:23 AM
Vancouver


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/6944358943_6d031a5f19_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eyesplash/6944358943/)
The Lions gate bridge all lit up. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eyesplash/6944358943/) by Eyesplash (http://www.flickr.com/people/eyesplash/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez
April 4th, 2012, 02:32 AM
Los Angeles

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/7040375961_ff5e9028f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshuagunther/7040375961/)
LA Skyline (EXPLORED) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshuagunther/7040375961/) by Joshua Gunther (http://www.flickr.com/people/joshuagunther/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/7043510677_edaf88230a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshuagunther/7043510677/)
LA Palms (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshuagunther/7043510677/) by Joshua Gunther (http://www.flickr.com/people/joshuagunther/), on Flickr

isaidso
April 4th, 2012, 04:51 AM
Montréal

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1009/539582047_3b29be4562_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/meta404/539582047/)
City skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/meta404/539582047/) par metavariable (http://www.flickr.com/people/meta404/), sur Flickr

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4110/4960921580_877b35ab78_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michelgagnon/4960921580/)
Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michelgagnon/4960921580/) par le calmar (http://www.flickr.com/people/michelgagnon/), sur Flickr

Sarcasticity
April 4th, 2012, 05:14 PM
^^ Montreal has a decent skyline, but I think it's one of those cities that is way more impressive street level. Very beautiful city.

Although I know this is a Best NA Skyline thread, I would like to see the best the Prairie provinces has to offer, and even the Midwestern States. I think they're somewhat underrepresented here

HK999
April 4th, 2012, 07:56 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7110/6897767162_ec0bfceac5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/6897767162/)
I'm in love with New York City! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/6897767162/) by Tony Shi. (http://www.flickr.com/people/tonyshi/) on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6098/7029514477_ccb553e737_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/7029514477/)
Manhattan magic hours (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/7029514477/) by Tony Shi. (http://www.flickr.com/people/tonyshi/) on Flickr


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6033/7022999727_96823136f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/7022999727/)
One World Trade Center and lower Manhattan skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/7022999727/) by Tony Shi. (http://www.flickr.com/people/tonyshi/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7080/6896422180_4afb19b7d5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/docsearls/6896422180/)
2012_03_14_aus-iah-bos_375b (http://www.flickr.com/photos/docsearls/6896422180/) by dsearls (http://www.flickr.com/people/docsearls/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/6896416308_aa6b78a312_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/docsearls/6896416308/)
2012_03_14_aus-iah-bos_394 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/docsearls/6896416308/) by dsearls (http://www.flickr.com/people/docsearls/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/7044048969_57d1d83038_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smedge/7044048969/)
Empire State Ground Zero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smedge/7044048969/) by smedge (http://www.flickr.com/people/smedge/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/6897954040_2fa1587299_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smedge/6897954040/)
Empire State View North (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smedge/6897954040/) by smedge (http://www.flickr.com/people/smedge/) on Flickr


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5159/7044694587_9daaa8e58a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/http2007/7044694587/)
Statue of Liberty (http://www.flickr.com/photos/http2007/7044694587/) by http2007 (http://www.flickr.com/people/http2007/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7229/7044597255_a250795e5a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/http2007/7044597255/)
Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/http2007/7044597255/) by http2007 (http://www.flickr.com/people/http2007/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6898489424_13ef21770e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/http2007/6898489424/)
Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/http2007/6898489424/) by http2007 (http://www.flickr.com/people/http2007/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/7044586759_85ab275fc9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/http2007/7044586759/)
Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/http2007/7044586759/) by http2007 (http://www.flickr.com/people/http2007/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7054/7037121035_9304373649_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelcasey/7037121035/)
city skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelcasey/7037121035/) by Michael Casey (http://www.flickr.com/people/michaelcasey/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7095/7043060761_360ccdf19a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/7043060761/)
One World Trade Center (aka Freedom Tower) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/7043060761/) by pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/) on Flickr

iloveclassicrock7
April 4th, 2012, 09:29 PM
Definitely between NYC and Chicago. I would say they are extremely close. I probably just prefer chicago a bit due to the setting, planning, and architecture. Chicago is more modern, which happens to be a architectural style i like better. Also, i love the way that their are beautiful parks from lake shore drive to michigan, then the skyscrapers start, and way up ahead you see skyscrapers. Its really the combination of parks and towering skyscrapers that makes me love it, and the way buildings like the Sears stand out. But I love NYC too, i would give chicago a 9.9 and NYC a 9.8. After that i would say 3. would probably be toronto at a distant 3rd. We Americans are spoiled to have the two best skylines in the world!

isaidso
April 4th, 2012, 09:43 PM
^^ Montreal has a decent skyline, but I think it's one of those cities that is way more impressive street level. Very beautiful city.

Although I know this is a Best NA Skyline thread, I would like to see the best the Prairie provinces has to offer, and even the Midwestern States. I think they're somewhat underrepresented here

I agree. Montreal's architecture has always been second to none, and it remains that city's trump card. Montreal used to have one of the best skylines on the continent, but it really hasn't gotten much bigger since 1962. The prairie cities are a bit too small for this thread, but I'll post a few photos as you've asked.

Winnipeg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9673/smallcmhr.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/600/skylinehz3.jpg
Posted by trueviking

Edmonton

http://i15.************/313ktab.jpg

http://btansey.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/downtown-edmonton-fog.jpg
http://btansey.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/downtown-edmonton-fog.jpg

Calgary

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/3370923512_153ab74c50_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/north49/3370923512/)
by hardwiredindustries (http://www.flickr.com/photos/north49/)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/w-van/calgary.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/w-van/calgary.jpg

Dralcoffin
April 5th, 2012, 03:13 AM
Although I know this is a Best NA Skyline thread, I would like to see the best the Prairie provinces has to offer, and even the Midwestern States. I think they're somewhat underrepresented here

The best skylines of the Midwest:

First is of course mighty Chicago:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/my%20photos/Image12.jpg
(cbotnyse on photobucket)

Second in my view is Minneapolis:
http://residency.pathology.umn.edu/images/content/info/minneapolis.jpg
(University of Minnesota)

http://www.isisweb.org/SpringboardWebApp/userfiles/isis/image/Minneapolis%20Skyline.jpg

The other Twin City, St. Paul
http://www.metrocouncil.org/Environment/RiversLakes/images/StPaulCropped.jpg

Detroit which has some amazing pre-Depression architecture:

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125343&d=1226463852

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/74/168403977_5e622dc85d_b.jpg
(Ifmuth, Flickr)

St. Louis
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4127/4958502786_5bf33401d3_b.jpg
(Matneym, Flickr)

http://files.myopera.com/musickna/albums/9201282/Saint_Louis_skyline.JPG

Kansas City
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Kansas_City_MO_Skyline_14July2008v.jpg

Cleveland
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2288/2270695484_8982aba56b_o.jpg

http://www.photosshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/dot-cs-cleveland.jpg

Indianapolis
http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles8822.jpg

Milwaukee
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Sa_McKinley_Milwaukee_city_view_and_glassy_water_soul-amp.JPG

Columbus
http://www.ohio.edu/people/cookt/images/history/columbus_ohio.jpg

http://storagelocations.com/cityimages/columbusoh.jpg

Omaha
http://www.careeroverview.com/media/photos/NE/Omaha,_Nebraska-OmahaNE_Aerial.jpg

Des Moines
http://www.iowa.metlife.com/files/23935/c007_des_moines_skyline_des_moines.gif

isaidso
April 5th, 2012, 04:33 AM
Cleveland looks great. Columbus looks tiny for a metro of 2 million.

desertpunk
April 5th, 2012, 07:05 AM
Seattle

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7056/6848039636_f0907c9786_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/6848039636/)
Keep Blazin’ Your Own Trail (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/6848039636/) by TIA International Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/tiascapes/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6110/7016442831_321fabe1db_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7016442831/)
Rhythm of Spring (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7016442831/) by TIA International Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/tiascapes/), on Flickr

HK999
April 6th, 2012, 02:10 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/6901044596_e943bb8bf8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6901044596/)
Mountains on the Hudson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6901044596/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/) on Flickr

mdparker
April 7th, 2012, 08:11 PM
My take on it:
1) New York: hands down number 1, an amazing collection of buildings from every era...
2) Chicago: What's not to like
3) Toronto: Downtown profile is growing like a weed, the best is definitely yet to come
4) Panama City: Very strong skyline: Central America's best...
5) Miami: Multiple skylines... Was there recently... Looking good
6) Vancouver: A beautiful balanced and dense downtown... Not tall but great nonetheless
7) Philadelphia: Wonderful collection of old and new... Underrated
8) Seattle: A very impressive downtown cluster... Looks good from every angle...
9) Atlanta: Next to Miami, the best southern US skyline...
10) San Francisco: Lovely city, great downtown with fantastic views from every direction...

desertpunk
April 9th, 2012, 04:09 AM
NYC

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6098/6342791178_cae264d40e_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhnieman/6342791178/)
West Side NYC from Weehawken (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhnieman/6342791178/) by dhnieman (http://www.flickr.com/people/dhnieman/), on Flickr

dnh310
April 10th, 2012, 12:00 AM
San Francisco

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/7054698363_e532d08cdb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tudorapmadoc/7054698363/)
San Francisco Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tudorapmadoc/7054698363/) por Tudor ApMadoc (http://www.flickr.com/people/tudorapmadoc/), en Flickr

dnh310
April 10th, 2012, 12:01 AM
Miami

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7268/6910710780_51119e8fec_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/francismoran/6910710780/)
Miami in the morning (http://www.flickr.com/photos/francismoran/6910710780/) por Francis Moran (http://www.flickr.com/people/francismoran/), en Flickr

dnh310
April 10th, 2012, 12:04 AM
Mexico city

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/6884970172_219b23c431_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46416884@N03/6884970172/)
La Avenida Mas Bonita De La Ciudad De México (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46416884@N03/6884970172/) por LANCER. (http://www.flickr.com/people/46416884@N03/), en Flickr

desertpunk
April 10th, 2012, 01:35 PM
Denver

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6104/6225128075_d8242cb238_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rbrome/6225128075/)
Denver (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rbrome/6225128075/) by Rich Brome (http://www.flickr.com/people/rbrome/), on Flickr

HK999
April 11th, 2012, 12:43 PM
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5457/6917653336_14089798f9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ill-padrino/6917653336/)
Manhattan Afternoon (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ill-padrino/6917653336/) by ill-padrino www.matthiashaker.com (http://www.flickr.com/people/ill-padrino/) on Flickr


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5465/7065394891_d4a7e5f21e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ill-padrino/7065394891/)
Brooklyn Bridge Sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ill-padrino/7065394891/) by ill-padrino www.matthiashaker.com (http://www.flickr.com/people/ill-padrino/) on Flickr

Marcanadian
April 11th, 2012, 09:35 PM
1 WTC and Beekman Tower almost look like the former WTC.

isaidso
April 11th, 2012, 10:07 PM
That first Manhattan photo is one of the best I've seen. It's interesting seeing the Upper East Side in the foreground and you really get a sense of how wide Manhattan is.

HK999
April 12th, 2012, 03:34 PM
New York in 15 years... render by sbarn on SSP:

Good luck to the rest if all those projects are realized lol!


Original Photo Source: ill-padrino www.matthiashaker.com (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ill-padrino/6917653336/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/7069775585_257b795404_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7069775835_3ca5ec5905_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/7069775981_557f299865_b.jpg

Note: Several "smaller" projects like 56 Leonard, 90 Church, 50 West and Co. (all > 200m) are not included.

Eduardo L. Ramirez
April 12th, 2012, 04:05 PM
Very impressive!
I don't like 4 though (looks like a giant chimney next to the ESB on the pic)


San Francisco

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5348/6922755028_ec3d1f96ea_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/minabud/6922755028/)
SF Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/minabud/6922755028/) by Minabud (http://www.flickr.com/people/minabud/), on Flickr


L. A.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5336/6924123434_2e49b7faca_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/81349992@N00/6924123434/)
LA Sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/81349992@N00/6924123434/) by Phu Dui (http://www.flickr.com/people/81349992@N00/), on Flickr

HK999
April 19th, 2012, 10:21 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7255/7092024833_d000750f0e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59949757@N06/7092024833/)
Fire in the Sky | New York City Sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59949757@N06/7092024833/) by MichaelTapp (http://www.flickr.com/people/59949757@N06/) on Flickr

isaidso
April 19th, 2012, 11:04 PM
That New York 2030 render is crazy good. New York will likely need to develop like that if it's to remain on its perch globally. In north America it's going to be safe. I can't see any city toppling it skyline wise. Maybe 50 years from now, but nobody else is close right now.

iloveclassicrock7
April 20th, 2012, 02:32 AM
That New York 2030 render is crazy good. New York will likely need to develop like that if it's to remain on its perch globally. In north America it's going to be safe. I can't see any city toppling it skyline wise. Maybe 50 years from now, but nobody else is close right now.

In America, its just New York and Chicago which both are part of the big 3 skylines of the world, then every other city in America pales in comparison. When it comes to comparing Chicago and New York its hard for me in a way. New york is more impressive, but I find Chicago more aesthetically pleasing. New York has a lot of buildings, including the magnificent and timeless Chrysler building and ESB, but Chicago has taller buildings, and I am in love with the sears and Trump international. I love new yorks art deco look with a mix of some modern, and I love Chicago's modern look with a mix of some art deco. I guess I am torn between them. They are also both so different and unique, so i just put New York as 1. and Chicago as 1B

Also the comment about every other city paling in comparison just refers to skyline, their are a lot of other places in America that are absolutely beautiful, such as San Francisco.

btw,that 2030 render looks pretty freaking sweet! I love almost all of those buildings, and am hoping the cladding will be good on 432 park. But, its kind of sad to see the ESB looking so small in comparison to the new buildings :sad2:

iloveclassicrock7
April 20th, 2012, 04:29 AM
You're right.http://www.cx-7.info/g.php

Can't see the picture

also. I was thinking, we should find a way to get the USR building from I robot built! http://www.filmfashion.nl/stills/i%20robot11.jpghttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/1/3176021_9802db0cc1.jpg

isaidso
April 20th, 2012, 05:42 AM
In America, its just New York and Chicago which both are part of the big 3 skylines of the world, then every other city in America pales in comparison.

For me the 'Big 3' are New York, Shanghai, and Hong Kong.

iloveclassicrock7
April 20th, 2012, 06:50 AM
For me the 'Big 3' are New York, Shanghai, and Hong Kong.

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isaidso
April 20th, 2012, 08:57 AM
Generally the Big 3 are known as NYC,HK,and CHI.

Been on here and SSP for 5 years and that's the first time I've heard someone suggest their was a consensus on that. Any way, back to skylines.

The Big Smoke
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq260/isaidso_photos/TorontofromHumberBay.jpg?t=1334905282

iloveclassicrock7
April 20th, 2012, 05:21 PM
Been on here and SSP for 5 years and that's the first time I've heard someone suggest their was a consensus on that. Any way, back to skylines.

The Big Smoke
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq260/isaidso_photos/TorontofromHumberBay.jpg?t=1334905282

I guess I have just heard a lot of people say it, but it doesn't really matter. Shanghai has a awesome skyline. Also, thats a great pic of Toronto

isaidso
April 20th, 2012, 11:33 PM
It's a great time to be living in Toronto for a skyscraper enthusiast.

HK999
April 23rd, 2012, 05:16 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/7094886347_426665877f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelmclphoto/7094886347/)
WTC Rising (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelmclphoto/7094886347/) by Mike McLaughlin Photo (http://www.flickr.com/people/michaelmclphoto/) on Flickr


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5196/7096054349_49f3da7243_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coyote86/7096054349/)
Sunset on an Empire (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coyote86/7096054349/) by coyote86 (http://www.flickr.com/people/coyote86/) on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7094/6958532992_62db96b331_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kptripathi/6958532992/)
Manhattan - From top of the Rock (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kptripathi/6958532992/) by KP Tripathi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kptripathi/) on Flickr


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5276/7091109969_d7f6fef812_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kptripathi/7091109969/)
Manhattan - From Brooklyn Heights (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kptripathi/7091109969/) by KP Tripathi (http://www.flickr.com/people/kptripathi/) on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez
April 24th, 2012, 12:28 AM
Some nice shots of
San Francisco

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8151/6958627358_3fbdf5ef95_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/6958627358/)
San Francisco Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/6958627358/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8154/7104696019_c0e53b285d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7104696019/)
Bay Bridge and the San Francisco Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7104696019/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7195/6958626780_736f751066_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/6958626780/)
Bay Bridge and the San Francisco Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/6958626780/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7104696157_fd1c9e0f91_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7104696157/)
San Francisco Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7104696157/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8026/7104695747_9f82407efc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7104695747/)
Downtown San Francisco (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7104695747/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

isaidso
April 24th, 2012, 05:26 AM
San Francisco looks much bigger in those shots than the typical photos I've seen here on SSC.

Sarcasticity
April 25th, 2012, 02:37 AM
San Francisco looks much bigger in those shots than the typical photos I've seen here on SSC.

I was about to say that as well. We usually don't get pictures of SF's skyline this close. It almost look like the buildings are bigger, taller and the skyline denser than it is (?) or maybe older pictures just didn't do SF any justice just like how in certain vantage point, Toronto's skyline also looks "smaller" than how it is in reality

MDguy
April 25th, 2012, 04:34 AM
Great to see San Francisco finally getting some color in their skyline!

Jay
April 25th, 2012, 04:38 AM
That New York 2030 render is crazy good. New York will likely need to develop like that if it's to remain on its perch globally. In north America it's going to be safe. I can't see any city toppling it skyline wise. Maybe 50 years from now, but nobody else is close right now.


I don't think there will be a single city that can top what NYC will have in the up coming decades, a few may be in the same running, but NYC will still arguably be the highrise capital.

isaidso
April 25th, 2012, 12:37 PM
I was about to say that as well. We usually don't get pictures of SF's skyline this close. It almost look like the buildings are bigger, taller and the skyline denser than it is (?) or maybe older pictures just didn't do SF any justice just like how in certain vantage point, Toronto's skyline also looks "smaller" than how it is in reality

It's likely the angles like you suggest. We don't usually get close up photos of San Francisco's downtown from the air. These 'close up' 45 degree angles downward tend to be the most flattering angles.

Toronto's skyline looks bafflingly 'small' from many angles and just monstrous in others. It truly is a chameleon in that sense. I think a lot of is due to how spread out the core is. The CBD is many blocks from the lake so the perspective from the lake makes the buildings look smaller than they are. Views from the Don Valley have a similar effect. When the East Bayfront, West Don Lands, Southcore, and Midtown build out, the eye won't be fooled quite so easily.

isaidso
April 25th, 2012, 01:45 PM
I don't think there will be a single city that can top what NYC will have in the up coming decades, a few may be in the same running, but NYC will still arguably be the highrise capital.

It will be interesting to watch unfold. Personally, I'd prefer to see other cities meet the challenge be it Dubai, Shanghai, Tokyo, or some dark horse like Mumbai. Within north America, the more interesting comparison will be Chicago-Toronto. Despite a 5 year construction boom in Toronto, Chicago is still ahead by a significant margin. Another 10 years of frenetic building and it could get very interesting.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Toronto_Downtown_Aerial_September_2010.jpg
Courtesy of Wikipedia

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/6976465825_0f044944bc_b.jpg
The New NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6989701265/) by Neil Ta | I am Bidong (http://www.flickr.com/people/neilta/), on Flickr

Sarcasticity
April 25th, 2012, 03:35 PM
Yes, I think watching Toronto and Chicago in this decade is more exciting than what NYC has to offer with its supertalls. Both cities are always compared and have arguably the next best skylines. I think its safe to say right at this moment, density-wise Toronto already is way ahead of Chicago, but Chicago still is way ahead in height and it's core still looks more impressive. But Toronto is just experiencing a construction boom that Chicago hasn't have had for a decade.

Dralcoffin
April 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Yes, I think watching Toronto and Chicago in this decade is more exciting than what NYC has to offer with its supertalls. Both cities are always compared and have arguably the next best skylines. I think its safe to say right at this moment, density-wise Toronto already is way ahead of Chicago, but Chicago still is way ahead in height and it's core still looks more impressive. But Toronto is just experiencing a construction boom that Chicago hasn't have had for a decade.

I would agree with this, although Chicago has a vast number of pre-war skyscrapers that Toronto can't match, which is a strong point in Chicago's favor for me, and one of the reasons Chicago still has a large lead on Toronto among my favorite skylines. However, the recession hit Chicago much harder than Toronto, so while I think we'll see another huge boom in Chicago, it won't be until towards the end of the decade.

HK999
April 25th, 2012, 04:52 PM
GOTHAM CITY
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7237/6966194212_2b58b50bfb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimmysqueeker77/6966194212/)
NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimmysqueeker77/6966194212/) by jimmysqueeker77 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jimmysqueeker77/) on Flickr

isaidso
April 25th, 2012, 05:09 PM
I think its safe to say right at this moment, density-wise Toronto already is way ahead of Chicago, but Chicago still is way ahead in height and it's core still looks more impressive.

That's how I see it as well. At the minimum, Toronto will need to build 4-5 high quality buildings in the 300-450 m range to become a worthy skyline rival to Chicago. We're still waiting.


I would agree with this, although Chicago has a vast number of pre-war skyscrapers that Toronto can't match, which is a strong point in Chicago's favor for me, and one of the reasons Chicago still has a large lead on Toronto among my favorite skylines. However, the recession hit Chicago much harder than Toronto, so while I think we'll see another huge boom in Chicago, it won't be until towards the end of the decade.

Quite right. Toronto was much smaller than both Chicago and New York 100 years ago. There are tons of beautiful pre-war buildings in Toronto, but very few pre-war skyscrapers. It's an advantage that Chicago (and New York) will always hold over Toronto. It makes the failure to finish College Park (1929 stock market crash casualty) all the more regretful. It would have been the largest office/shopping complex in the world/our Empire State Building, but only one corner of it was built. Chicago also has the Chicago river and those stately bridges that cross it.

In Toronto's defense, it does have a few topographical advantages over Chicago. The extensive ravine system is a gorgeous feature offering visual interest. Driving downtown down the Don Valley Parkway is just one of the impressive vistas available in the city. Toronto is also blessed with Leslie Spit and the Toronto Islands. They both afford great views and readily accessible parkland.

As an admirer of pre-war architecture, I'd rather have the vast stock of pre-war skyscrapers in Chicago. As a citizen, I'm not sure I'd want to give up the ravines and islands in exchange for them. We do have Commerce Court North, Canada Life, Royal Bank Building, Canadian Pacific Building, the Royal York, and a few others so I shouldn't complain too loudly.


Commerce Court North
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq260/isaidso_photos/CommmerceCourtNorth.jpg?t=1335368687

http://www.toronto.ca/doorsopen/images/gallery/commercecourt.jpg

iloveclassicrock7
April 25th, 2012, 10:11 PM
That's how I see it as well. At the minimum, Toronto will need to build 4-5 high quality buildings in the 300-450 m range to become a worthy skyline rival to Chicago. We're still waiting.




Quite right. Toronto was much smaller than both Chicago and New York 100 years ago. There are tons of beautiful pre-war buildings in Toronto, but very few pre-war skyscrapers. It's an advantage that Chicago (and New York) will always hold over Toronto. It makes the failure to finish College Park (1929 stock market crash casualty) all the more regretful. It would have been the largest office/shopping complex in the world/our Empire State Building, but only one corner of it was built. Chicago also has the Chicago river and those stately bridges that cross it.

In Toronto's defense, it does have a few topographical advantages over Chicago. The extensive ravine system is a gorgeous feature offering visual interest. Driving downtown down the Don Valley Parkway is just one of the impressive vistas available in the city. Toronto is also blessed with Leslie Spit and the Toronto Islands. They both afford great views and readily accessible parkland.

As an admirer of pre-war architecture, I'd rather have the vast stock of pre-war skyscrapers in Chicago. As a citizen, I'm not sure I'd want to give up the ravines and islands in exchange for them. We do have Commerce Court North, Canada Life, Royal Bank Building, Canadian Pacific Building, the Royal York, and a few others so I shouldn't complain too loudly.


Commerce Court North
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq260/isaidso_photos/CommmerceCourtNorth.jpg?t=1335368687

http://www.toronto.ca/doorsopen/images/gallery/commercecourt.jpg

Im not trying to be mean man, but how can you compare Chicago and Toronto, or even Toronto and Tokyo ? Toronto's skyline length of total buildings around 20 floors and up is about 2 miles. Chicago's is close to 7.13 miles, the width of NYC's skyline, from battery park to the end of central park. Toronto doesn't have very good architecture either, its tallest building is a box, while Chicago's tallest buildings are some of the most known, most beautiful and creative in the world. And Chicago's waterfront is enough alone to win. Not to mention the fact that Chicago is going through a mini building boom, and built The Trump, the tallest building built in the last 30 years in America, and also built several buildings above 200m between 2000-2010. Also, Chicago is definitely more dense. The gap is huge, I can't see Toronto ever having a chance of passing Chicago, unless Chicago doesn't build anything for a long time. Toronto is still an amazing city though, and could pass up Tokyo someday.

Dralcoffin
April 25th, 2012, 10:18 PM
Toronto's skyline is much more spread out than Chicago. Chicago is basically the huge Loop/Near North clump, and a thin tentacle a block or two wide following the lake all the way up with a small cluster in Hyde Park. Other than that, Chicago is very low rise. Toronto on the other hand (especially with the boom) has several clumps of towers scattered over the central city, with a sea of condo towers stretching quite a ways inland from the lake. Chicago's central core is much, much larger than Toronto's downtown, but Chicago doesn't have anything on the scale of the Yonge Street corridor or Mississauga.

(It doesn't help Toronto that its skyline is mostly perpendicular to the lakefront, so pictures from the lake show basically the narrow side of the skyline. On the other hand, Chicago's skyline is crowded parallel to the lake, so that perspective is the most flattering for Chicago.)

isaidso
April 25th, 2012, 11:22 PM
Im not trying to be mean man, but how can you compare Chicago and Toronto, or even Toronto and Tokyo ? Toronto's skyline length of total buildings around 20 floors and up is about 2 miles. Chicago's is close to 7.13 miles, the width of NYC's skyline, from battery park to the end of central park. Toronto doesn't have very good architecture either, its tallest building is a box, while Chicago's tallest buildings are some of the most known, most beautiful and creative in the world. And Chicago's waterfront is enough alone to win. Not to mention the fact that Chicago is going through a mini building boom, and built The Trump, the tallest building built in the last 30 years in America, and also built several buildings above 200m between 2000-2010. Also, Chicago is definitely more dense. The gap is huge, I can't see Toronto ever having a chance of passing Chicago, unless Chicago doesn't build anything for a long time. Toronto is still an amazing city though, and could pass up Tokyo someday.

I have no issue with you asking. I don't want to get into a pissing contest, but Toronto isn't all that far behind Chicago if you look at buildings 100 m or taller in each city. In 2010, Chicago was ahead by about 125 buildings. Based on construction in 2011-2012 and projects soon to break ground, the discrepancy will all but disappear in a few years.

02. New York: 794
07. Chicago: 341
14. Toronto: 216

http://www.ctbuh.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=2xRxAalkjoA%3d&tabid=1006&language=en-GB

For buildings 12 floors or more, Toronto has far more than Chicago. Density? If you're talking about people/square kilometre, Toronto smokes Chicago. If you're talking about buildings, Chicago is denser but the gap is closing in a hurry. Chicago is more comparable to Toronto than it is with New York.

I'm no fan of First Canadian Place, but Scotia Plaza, Royal Bank Plaza, and TD Centre stack up well to anything in Chicago. Perhaps, you should look a little closer.

iloveclassicrock7
April 25th, 2012, 11:23 PM
Toronto's skyline is much more spread out than Chicago. Chicago is basically the huge Loop/Near North clump, and a thin tentacle a block or two wide following the lake all the way up with a small cluster in Hyde Park. Other than that, Chicago is very low rise. Toronto on the other hand (especially with the boom) has several clumps of towers scattered over the central city, with a sea of condo towers stretching quite a ways inland from the lake. Chicago's central core is much, much larger than Toronto's downtown, but Chicago doesn't have anything on the scale of the Yonge Street corridor or Mississauga.

(It doesn't help Toronto that its skyline is mostly perpendicular to the lakefront, so pictures from the lake show basically the narrow side of the skyline. On the other hand, Chicago's skyline is crowded parallel to the lake, so that perspective is the most flattering for Chicago.)

I agree on Toronto being somewhat spread out.Outside of the loop there are some small clusters spread out, but for the most part its mostly low rise. The loop is very dense though, what part were you referring to as a small tentacle ? Here is a picture of the area to the west of Chicago - http://i.imgur.com/0kfPb.jpg Also, I realize that I have the chicago spire and seven south dearborn in the skyline, I have to delete some files to get rid of that.

http://i.imgur.com/NVTjM.jpg

Dralcoffin
April 25th, 2012, 11:32 PM
By small tentacle, I'm referring to the north lakefront above Division Street:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2444/3785616575_7528867695_b.jpg
String of Pearls by Payton Chung (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paytonc/3785616575/)

Density? If you're talking about people/square kilometre, Toronto smokes Chicago.

Good post overall, but this is only true for the metro areas. By metro area, Toronto is denser than Chicagoland's sprawl (850 vs 509 people/km^2). However, the City of Chicago and City of Toronto are nearly the exact same size, but Chicago is just barely denser in the city limits than Toronto (4447 vs. 4419 people per square km).

isaidso
April 25th, 2012, 11:35 PM
Toronto's skyline is much more spread out than Chicago. Chicago is basically the huge Loop/Near North clump, and a thin tentacle a block or two wide following the lake all the way up with a small cluster in Hyde Park. Other than that, Chicago is very low rise. Toronto on the other hand (especially with the boom) has several clumps of towers scattered over the central city, with a sea of condo towers stretching quite a ways inland from the lake. Chicago's central core is much, much larger than Toronto's downtown, but Chicago doesn't have anything on the scale of the Yonge Street corridor or Mississauga.

(It doesn't help Toronto that its skyline is mostly perpendicular to the lakefront, so pictures from the lake show basically the narrow side of the skyline. On the other hand, Chicago's skyline is crowded parallel to the lake, so that perspective is the most flattering for Chicago.)


If Toronto's skyline stretches north away from the lake, why would you judge it based on lake views? I'm not sure how you can argue that downtown Chicago is much much larger than downtown Toronto unless you're including the Near South Side and Lincoln Park. If you look up the area, the Loop/Near North (1.58+2.72=4.3 square miles) and downtown Toronto (4.5 square miles), they're about the same in area.

This is Toronto circa 2015. Almost everything in this image is built or under construction. Chicago has 6 super talls, that's where the big difference is. Beyond that, Chicago's central core doesn't look much much bigger than Toronto's. Not to me anyway.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq260/isaidso_photos/5621809825_033e76ed01_b.jpg?t=1302975625

isaidso
April 25th, 2012, 11:44 PM
By small tentacle, I'm referring to the north lakefront above Division Street:

Good post overall, but this is only true for the metro areas. By metro area, Toronto is denser than Chicagoland's sprawl (850 vs 509 people/km^2). However, the City of Chicago and City of Toronto are nearly the exact same size, but Chicago is just barely denser in the city limits than Toronto (4447 vs. 4419 people per square km).

The Chicago tentacle is interesting. I'll try and dig out Toronto's version. Density: I was referring to downtown. Downtown Toronto has far higher population density than the Loop/Near North. It's not even close.

Lincoln Park---Near North Side---Chicago Loop---Near South Side---Downtown Chicago
Land Area: 3.19 sq mi---2.72 sq mi---1.58 sq mi---1.75 sq mi---9.24 sq mi
Population (2010): 64,116---80,484---29,283---21,390---195,273
Density: 20,099/sq mi---29,589/sq mi---18,534/sq mi---12,223/sq mi---21,133/sq mi

Downtown Toronto (2011)
Land Area: 4.5 sq mi
Population (2011): 175,064
Density: 38,903/sq mi

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i406/maximan99/dttoronto.jpg


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1486697
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Loop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan

Dralcoffin
April 25th, 2012, 11:45 PM
Ah, I see about the downtown density point. Yeah, Chicago's downtown has always been very business based, and the population still hasn't recovered from the 1970s and 1980s. I wouldn't consider Lincoln Park downtown, though.

As for the skyline density debate, I'll admit they're basically tied. Both Chicago and Toronto are nice cities, and if I had to leave the Midwest, Toronto would be high on the list. I'm damn envious of how quickly you people are building skyscrapers. Toronto's lucky in that it gets to be the dominant city in its country's economy; New York steals so much of Chicago's thunder when it comes to skyscrapers. But as long as we finally get a 2000 footer...

iloveclassicrock7
April 26th, 2012, 12:08 AM
I have no issue with you asking. I don't want to get into a pissing contest, but Toronto isn't all that far behind Chicago if you look at buildings 100 m or taller in each city. In 2010, Chicago was ahead by about 125 buildings. Based on construction in 2011-2012 and projects soon to break ground, the discrepancy will all but disappear in a few years.

02. New York: 794
07. Chicago: 341
14. Toronto: 216

http://www.ctbuh.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=2xRxAalkjoA%3d&tabid=1006&language=en-GB

For buildings 12 floors or more, Toronto has far more than Chicago. Density? If you're talking about people/square kilometre, Toronto smokes Chicago. If you're talking about buildings, Chicago is denser but the gap is closing in a hurry. Chicago is more comparable to Toronto than it is with New York.

I'm no fan of First Canadian Place, but Scotia Plaza, Royal Bank Plaza, and TD Centre stack up well to anything in Chicago. Perhaps, you should look a little closer.[/QUOTE]

Im sorry but come on man, you are biased towards Toronto, because your from there! Chicago is closer to Toronto in amount of buildings sure, but Chicago's architecture is way ahead of Toronto, not to mention all the history. Another thing, Chicago's demand is coming back, and new proposals are starting up again, once the recession is over, it should be back in the swing of things. Chicago has also been called the best city architecturally in America by the American Institute of Architects. The thing about Chicago is that almost all the buildings in the loop are good looking, their aren't really any ugly buildings.

Also None of Toronto's buildings stack up to buildings like the Sears tower, trump international, Aqua, one museum park, john hancock,311 south wacker,mather tower, aon center, the wrigley building, and many more. The buildings you mention are nice, but simple and don't really stand out. Chicago also has 28 buildings over 200m. Also, Toronto is perpendicular to the waterfront, but even that long stretch is only 2 miles, Chicago's is 7 miles in length. Btw, now I know why you were trying to put Chicago down in that other thread:smug:

isaidso
April 26th, 2012, 12:09 AM
I only have good things to say about Chicago. I ranked it 4th in the world. How is that a put down? And to set the record straight, I don't think Toronto's skyline is as good as Chicago's. If you recall, I have Toronto in 6th or 7th.

Toronto's skyline length of total buildings around 20 floors and up is about 2 miles. Chicago's is close to 7.13 miles, ....

I found the photo I was looking for. If you're counting that thin line of buildings along Lake Michigan to get 7.13 miles, Toronto could submit this photo in its defense:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/endsnodds/00266.jpg

Dralcoffin
April 26th, 2012, 12:09 AM
The thing about Chicago is that almost all the buildings in the loop are good looking, their aren't really any ugly buildings.

Dude, I'm biased for Chicago, but that is just silly. There are a ton of ugly 70s and 80s boxes in the Loop, and some godawful condo towers in River North. Fortunately, they tend to be hidden in the crowd.

isaidso
April 26th, 2012, 12:11 AM
Im sorry but come on man, you are biased towards Toronto, because your from there! Chicago is closer to Toronto in amount of buildings sure, but Chicago's architecture is way ahead of Toronto, not to mention all the history.

Also None of Toronto's buildings stack up to buildings like the Sears tower, trump international, Aqua, one museum park, john hancock,311 south wacker,mather tower, aon center, the wrigley building, and many more. The buildings you mention are nice, but simple and don't really stand out. Chicago also has 28 buildings over 200m

That's not a fair comment at all. I'm trying to answer your questions in an informative/constructive/polite/respectful way and to be as impartial as possible. It would be nice if you returned the favour. Slagging Toronto architecture/history isn't really a good way to go. I haven't insulted one Chicago building or said anything negative. Do you realize that those are Mies Van der Rohe 'boxes' in downtown Toronto? That's an I.M. Pei steel skyscraper across from it? Next to that is a Calatrava atrium? These aren't run of the mill buildings no matter what city you're from.

I'm presenting the data and you can draw your own conclusions: Toronto has 10 buildings 200m+ built, 6 under construction, and 9 on their way. Toronto's count will be up to 25 in a couple years. 28 vs. 25? I realize most of these aren't built yet, but you asked me why I'm comparing Toronto with Chicago and I'm attempting to answer your question.

If you see this as being biased, fine.

Dralcoffin
April 26th, 2012, 12:16 AM
I found the photo I was looking for. If you're counting that thin line of buildings along Lake Michigan to get 7.13 miles, Toronto's could submit this photo in its defense:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/endsnodds/00266.jpg

Is that Hamilton in the foreground?

isaidso
April 26th, 2012, 12:29 AM
Yes, it's Hamilton. It's about 60 km from Toronto, but in reality you can't see the Toronto skyline quite like that. You need a telephoto lens.

Perhaps, we can talk about New York, Los Angeles, Seattle, Vancouver, Panama City, Pittsburgh, etc. and leave the Chicago/Toronto discussion for a while. It's not a Chicago/Toronto thread.

iloveclassicrock7
April 26th, 2012, 12:37 AM
I'm trying to answer your questions and to be as fair as possible. You can draw your own conclusions.

Man! How long will this debate continue ? :bash:

Based off of polls, professional lists, what Architects have said, most people agree Chicago is one of the top 3 skylines or better, ahead of Shanghai. Also based off of all of this, everyone agrees Chicago is way ahead of Toronto.

Also the total line of actual buildings for Toronto is 2 miles, 7 for Chicago. I would also like to point out that Chicago has one big cluster of several tall buildings, then past that for a while its mostly 100m buildings or less. Look at these pics

http://i.imgur.com/rTpzS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/STFF0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/91vK9.jpg

Dralcoffin
April 26th, 2012, 12:39 AM
One of my favorite skylines, although small, is Detroit:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1077/606128545_6bec8ce203_b.jpg
Photo by Hayward, SkyscraperPage (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=176610)

Detroit has some absolutely gorgeous buildings.

isaidso
April 26th, 2012, 12:58 AM
Also based off of all of this, everyone agrees Chicago is way ahead of Toronto.

It's best if you ask someone else next time.

isaidso
April 26th, 2012, 01:00 AM
One of my favorite skylines, although small, is Detroit:

Detroit has some absolutely gorgeous buildings.

I love it too. It's so sad that it gets dragged through the mud all the time. There are some fabulous buildings in downtown Detroit. I haven't had an opportunity to visit, but it's high on my list of US cities to see. I hope Detroit's economy rebounds so all these buildings can be saved. Detroit has lost too many to neglect already.

iloveclassicrock7
April 26th, 2012, 01:08 AM
It's best if you ask someone else next time.

Says the guy from Toronto. Dude, I am not trying to put down your city, its a great city, one of the best to live in, and its got a great skyline, that you should be proud of. But its not on Chicago's level, but it is in the top 10. I can send you links from sources proving what I am saying.

yankeesfan1000
April 26th, 2012, 01:36 AM
Says the guy from Toronto. Dude, I am not trying to put down your city, its a great city, one of the best to live in, and its got a great skyline, that you should be proud of. But its not on Chicago's level. I can send you links from professional sources proving what I am saying.

Good lord man, it's his/her opinion let it go. Toronto's skyline has things to offer that Chicago doesn't, and visa versa. It's an opinion. You guys don't agree, who cares, move on.

Back to topic! I agree on Detroit, sad to see some of those buildings neglected. You've got to think things can only get better for Detroit at this point.

And thanks for the photos on Commerce Court North isaidso, I'd never heard of it! Too bad it doesn't have a prominent spot in the skyline where it's more visible, but definitely looks like a beauty.

iloveclassicrock7
April 26th, 2012, 01:56 AM
Good lord man, it's his/her opinion let it go. Toronto's skyline has things to offer that Chicago doesn't, and visa versa. It's an opinion. You guys don't agree, who cares, move on.

Back to topic! I agree on Detroit, sad to see some of those buildings neglected. You've got to think things can only get better for Detroit at this point.

And thanks for the photos on Commerce Court North isaidso, I'd never heard of it! Too bad it doesn't have a prominent spot in the skyline where it's more visible, but definitely looks like a beauty.

Yeah, your right. Anyways, about Detroit, it used to be a really great city, but it's really fallen over the past decades. I would love to see it rise from the ashes. The buildings it has are great, hopefully it will start to get demand back.

On another note, check out what NYC will look like after 1 WTC finishes http://i.imgur.com/az2Tw.jpg

MDguy
April 26th, 2012, 03:08 AM
It will look great!

Here's one of my favorite underrated skylines, Kansas City

Photos by Bill Cob at urban-photos.com

http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/kansascity/kansascity_skyline_004_8651.jpg

http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/kansascity/kansascity_skyline_003_7388.jpg

http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/kansascity/kansascity_skyline_122_95911.jpg

http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/kansascity/kansascity_skyline_269_1902.jpg

koolio
April 26th, 2012, 04:01 AM
It will look great!

Here's one of my favorite underrated skylines, Kansas City

Photos by Bill Cob at urban-photos.com



http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/kansascity/kansascity_skyline_003_7388.jpg





What is this cool building? KC has had a lot of great projects recently. I love Sprint Center too.

iloveclassicrock7
April 26th, 2012, 04:06 AM
kansas city looks great, another city that has some great architecture is Tulsa, my city. The tallest building in our downtown is a half size version of the world trade center.

The tallest building is the williams tower at 203 m, our next tallest is the cityplex tower, its the gold building. Our population is 400,000, and a million in the metro. So, i would say our skyline is good for our size. We also have some art deco gem's


TULSA
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/209/494163070_a868940f01_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3240/2665757634_561e7722aa.jpg
http://ih2.redbubble.net/image.10383397.4217/flat,550x550,075,f.jpg
http://www.moderntulsa.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/oru08.JPG
http://www.itcametrue.com/TulsaSkyline.jpg
http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6053764/i/images/index_r4_c8.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2304680908_b951348e88.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3496/3860101614_a8e48c7acf.jpg

isaidso
April 26th, 2012, 11:56 AM
Back to topic! I agree on Detroit, sad to see some of those buildings neglected. You've got to think things can only get better for Detroit at this point.

And thanks for the photos on Commerce Court North isaidso, I'd never heard of it! Too bad it doesn't have a prominent spot in the skyline where it's more visible, but definitely looks like a beauty.

No problem. Before the big bank towers went up in the 1960s it was very prominent on the skyline. Like other cities on the continent, the old beauties slowly became hidden behind taller modern structures. They usually open Commerce Court North up to the public in an annual event called 'Doors Open' aimed at reconnecting Torontonians with their buildings/history. Is there a similar event in New York? If there isn't, there should be.

Detroit. I'd kill to have more buildings like exist there so it's really sad to watch them slowly deteriorate. Maybe the State of Michigan can step in to save some of their gems till long term uses can be found for some of those buildings? They must be saved somehow.

isaidso
April 26th, 2012, 12:19 PM
Here's one of my favorite underrated skylines, Kansas City

Photos by Bill Cob at urban-photos.com

http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/kansascity/kansascity_skyline_004_8651.jpg

http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/kansascity/kansascity_skyline_122_95911.jpg

Thanks for posting those. KC has a good stock of quality buildings. Very nice! Is that a train station in the 1st photo?

Speaking of under rated skylines. I'd put Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland in there. The US mid-west is littered with cities with lots of nice pre-war building stock.


I love Sprint Center too.

One of the world's best arena design firms is based in Kansas City. I believe they designed the Sprint Center. I consider it the best arena on the continent. The new one in Edmonton will probably beat it though.

isaidso
April 26th, 2012, 01:38 PM
Montreal, PQ

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2616/3720411288_37d7d8a314_o.jpg
http://www.mtlurb.com/forums/showthread.php/13343-Skyline-De-Montr%C3%A9al

http://gsmontreal2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/06295H.jpg
Source: http://gsmontreal2012.com/shopping

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq260/isaidso_photos/MontrealDowntown.jpg?t=1335440804

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5466/7084826783_72124a31ac_b.jpg
Montreal par twiga_swala (http://www.flickr.com/photos/twiga_swala/7084826783/) sur Flickr.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5339/6938759516_b94c33a58f_b.jpg
Montreal par twiga_swala (http://www.flickr.com/photos/twiga_swala/7084826783/) sur Flickr.

isaidso
April 26th, 2012, 02:02 PM
The 'red' stone building in the middle is often regarded as Canada's first skyscraper. It was built in 1888.

Dralcoffin
April 26th, 2012, 05:25 PM
Detroit. I'd kill to have more buildings like exist there so it's really sad to watch them slowly deteriorate. Maybe the State of Michigan can step in to save some of their gems till long term uses can be found for some of those buildings? They must be saved somehow.

Fortunately, just about all of the buildings over about 15 floors are being used, and one of the last vacant skyscrapers (the David Broderick Tower, the taller building on the left edge) is being renovated and will reopen this year as condos. It's the shorter buildings, around ten floors, that are left empty and disappearing. Downtown Detroit is seeing quite a revival; it's the >95% of the city outside of downtown that is bleeding out.

However, right outside of downtown there is a sea of parking lots where low rise neighborhoods are simply gone.

yankeesfan1000
April 26th, 2012, 05:36 PM
No problem. Before the big bank towers went up in the 1960s it was very prominent on the skyline. Like other cities on the continent, the old beauties slowly became hidden behind taller modern structures. They usually open Commerce Court North up to the public in an annual event called 'Doors Open' aimed at reconnecting Torontonians with their buildings/history. Is there a similar event in New York? If there isn't, there should be...

That sounds pretty interesting. I'm not aware of anything like that in New York, but most of the more well known buildings have parts that are accessible to the public, like observation decks or lobbies that are at least partially open to the public, like the Woolworth Buildings lobby which is so unbelievably gorgeous, or the Citigroup Center has a public lobby. But I don't think there's anything comparable to that. Sounds like it'd be a must see!

Jay
April 26th, 2012, 09:27 PM
While Toronto will certainly put itself ahead into the next category, Chicago is still more than double the size in terms of big skyscrapers. Chicago has 4 ~350 meter+ supertalls, and Toronto has the CN Tower

Toronto needs supertalls before it can be compared to Chicago


But I'm clearly speaking of size, asthetics is a whole other thing and I do like T-dot's skyline very much so.

iloveclassicrock7
April 27th, 2012, 03:15 AM
While Toronto will certainly put itself ahead into the next category, Chicago is still more than double the size in terms of big skyscrapers. Chicago has 4 ~350 meter+ supertalls, and Toronto has the CN Tower

Toronto needs supertalls before it can be compared to Chicago

I was just debating this with I saidso. If your a Chicagoan you should be proud, I was looking around the net, and just about every professional list and poll has Chicago in the top 3 world skylines, and i can't get enough of the sears and Trump international. Regarding Toronto, its got a lot of potential, and the way CN tower dominates everything looks awesome, I could definitely see it moving up if it has a big building boom, I don't see it moving up to Chicago's level, but only God knows, for all I know it may have an insane building boom and move to the very top. I am really hoping Toronto will get some high quality architecture, something like the Sears tower, Empire State building, or petronas tower

I also really wish that the motor city would rise from the ashes. It has a small skyline, but its still a great looking small skyline.

@ Isaidso, i like your pics of Montreal, its got a nice skyline! Also, I hope there aren't any hard feelings, i am a competitive person, especially when it comes to proving a point!:cheers:

isaidso
April 27th, 2012, 08:11 AM
^^ No problem. It just felt like you were more interested in proving me wrong than listening to my explanation. I don't mind vigorous arguments as long as people avoid insults and accept that some things don't have a right answer. People can put Anchorage in #1 if they want.

Toronto is in year 6 of a construction boom so it's natural that skyline comparisons are going to be made with the city on the next rung up. For Toronto that's Chicago. That these are both Great Lakes cities makes the comparisons all the more predictable.

I should add that it's usually only in terms of skyline and population that Torontonians make comparisons to Chicago. As Canada's alpha city and biggest metropolis, Torontonians look to other primary cities of countries: New York, Mexico City, Madrid, Seoul, Sydney, Paris, Tokyo, Sao Paulo, Moscow, London, Istanbul, Singapore, etc. No offense intended, but Chicago usually doesn't enter the conversation.

Fortunately, just about all of the buildings over about 15 floors are being used, and one of the last vacant skyscrapers (the David Broderick Tower, the taller building on the left edge) is being renovated and will reopen this year as condos. It's the shorter buildings, around ten floors, that are left empty and disappearing. Downtown Detroit is seeing quite a revival; it's the >95% of the city outside of downtown that is bleeding out.

However, right outside of downtown there is a sea of parking lots where low rise neighborhoods are simply gone.

That's some good news at least.

That sounds pretty interesting. I'm not aware of anything like that in New York, but most of the more well known buildings have parts that are accessible to the public, like observation decks or lobbies that are at least partially open to the public, like the Woolworth Buildings lobby which is so unbelievably gorgeous, or the Citigroup Center has a public lobby. But I don't think there's anything comparable to that. Sounds like it'd be a must see!

Doors Open Toronto is now in its 12th year. It's been a big success with the public and has done wonders for civic pride in the city. This year's event is March 26th & 27th. There are usually about 150 buildings of historic, architectural, social, or cultural interest opened up and staffed with guides.

iloveclassicrock7
April 27th, 2012, 04:37 PM
^^ No problem. It just felt like you were more interested in proving me wrong than listening to my explanation. I don't mind vigorous arguments as long as people avoid insults and accept that some things don't have a right answer. People can put Anchorage in #1 if they want.

Toronto is in year 6 of a construction boom so it's natural that skyline comparisons are going to be made with the city on the next rung up. For Toronto that's Chicago. That these are both Great Lakes cities makes the comparisons all the more predictable.

I should add that it's usually only in terms of skyline and population that Torontonians make comparisons to Chicago. As Canada's alpha city and biggest metropolis, Torontonians look to other primary cities of countries: New York, Mexico City, Madrid, Seoul, Sydney, Paris, Tokyo, Sao Paulo, Moscow, London, Istanbul, Singapore, etc. No offense intended, but Chicago usually doesn't enter the conversation.



That's some good news at least.



Doors Open Toronto is now in its 12th year. It's been a big success with the public and has done wonders for civic pride in the city. This year's event is March 26th & 27th. There are usually about 150 buildings of historic, architectural, social, or cultural interest opened up and staffed with guides.

Actually Chicago is higher up on the Global City List - It is considered an alpha+ city,

http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/images/world2010t.jpg http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2010t.html


and has the 3rd highest GDP in the world, above London

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2011/09/25-most-economically-powerful-cities-world/109/#slide4

Its also ranked as the 4th most powerful economic city. Toronto is 12# on the list





EDIT - Just realized my city,Tulsa, is on the sufficiency list, :lol: I guess thats something

Dralcoffin
April 27th, 2012, 06:45 PM
But Chicago also is in a deep, deep shadow that Toronto isn't -- New York. Toronto gets to be the dominant player in a G-8 economy that Chicago does not get to enjoy. That no doubt has powerful effects in influence, investment, and perception.

iloveclassicrock7
April 27th, 2012, 07:59 PM
But Chicago also is in a deep, deep shadow that Toronto isn't -- New York. Toronto gets to be the dominant player in a G-8 economy that Chicago does not get to enjoy. That no doubt has powerful effects in influence, investment, and perception.

Right, But if you have one of the top 3 GDP's in the world then you part of the elite and are world class. money=power, and is what matters, money is what speaks. Its also very known for some bad things like Al Capone, and the Klu Klux Klan movement. Everyone is able to have an opinion, but when you look at it Chicago is an Alpha+ City, and Toronto is an alpha city, Chicago shouldn't try to be a NYC, and Toronto shouldn't try to be a Hong Kong,Chicago, or Shanghai. Its not like it makes one city better, its just who's more powerful. Speaking of the shadow, America is the most powerful country in the world. NYC isn't the only known city in America. Their is Chicago and New York which are the the economic mega cities of America - Chicago is the transportation hub and center for top companies, NYC is wall street our economic center, then there is LA which is the film industry of America.

yankeesfan1000
April 28th, 2012, 12:53 AM
This is getting really close to a city v city...

But, just in your last post ilcr I think you're forgetting about LA which has the third largest GDP in the world, and the second largest in the US. Chicago has the third largest in the US and fourth largest in the world. And those US GDP rankings are very cemented with huge percentage gaps between each of them. In fear of starting a rabid city v city I'll just post the link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_GDP) and not the actual statistics. Just wanted to make sure you didn't forget about LA!


But skyline's are not always indicative of economic might, which I think is the point you were making though, please correct me if I'm wrong though. It's definitely an interesting correlation, but I think it's more a combination of economic output, history, and geography all thrown in together.

Edit: I should probably explain that Space Shuttles don't usually fly into NY on the back of a NASA 747, it's being flown in to be shown temporarily at the Intrepid Air and Space Museum until this is built across the street where it'll be housed permanently:

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/4f68b9ea85216d416d01164a/untitled-1024-4.jpg
Source (http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/03/20/looks_like_all_systems_go_for_space_shuttle_museum.php#4f68b9e485216d4211015d0b)

How about some photos?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7241/7120069089_37cf729dbb_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8027/6973113100_b1cec57abe_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7101/7118923857_7fecdd33a0_b.jpg
All photos courtesy of NASA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nasahqphoto/sets/72157629911902583/)

iloveclassicrock7
April 28th, 2012, 01:05 AM
This is getting really close to a city v city...

But, just in your last post ilcr I think you're forgetting about LA which has the third largest GDP in the world, and the second largest in the US. Chicago has the third largest in the US and fourth largest in the world. And those US GDP rankings are very cemented with huge percentage gaps between each of them. In fear of starting a rabid city v city I'll just post the link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_GDP) and not the actual statistics. Just wanted to make sure you didn't forget about LA!


But skyline's are not always indicative of economic might, which I think is the point you were making though, please correct me if I'm wrong though. It's definitely an interesting correlation, but I think it's more a combination of economic output, history, and geography all thrown in together.


All photos courtesy of NASA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nasahqphoto/sets/72157629911902583/)

First off, those pictures are amazing, I can't wait to see that view once 1 WTC is finished. It will be absolutely astonishing.

Also whenever i said GDP, i mentioned the wrong figure, I was trying to say economic output, which Chicago has the 3rd highest. On this list, its the 4th most powerful city in the world, but has the 3rd highest economic output http://www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2011/09/25-most-economically-powerful-cities-world/109/#slide3

yankeesfan1000
April 28th, 2012, 02:03 AM
No that's my fault I assumed you meant GDP, but you didn't say that, you said what you meant.

iloveclassicrock7
April 28th, 2012, 02:37 AM
No that's my fault I assumed you meant GDP, but you didn't say that, you said what you meant.

I actually did say GDP a few posts back, so its my bad. It was simply a mix-up on my part.

isaidso
April 28th, 2012, 06:25 AM
Actually Chicago is higher up on the Global City List - It is considered an alpha+ city,


I know that, but Chicago isn't the #1 city in the US. People in cities that are #1 in their country look to other cities that are #1 in their country. When we look around the world, we check out London, Sydney, Sao Paulo, etc. Chicago rarely gets a look. If you want to continue the discussion, pm is a better place for that.

We should limit this thread to skyline photos and related topics.

iloveclassicrock7
April 28th, 2012, 06:51 AM
I know that, but Chicago isn't the #1 city in the US. People in cities that are #1 in their country look to other cities that are #1 in their country. When we look around the world, we check out London, Sydney, Sao Paulo, etc. Chicago rarely gets a look. If you want to continue the discussion, pm is a better place for that.

We should limit this thread to skyline photos and related topics.

Agreed, we should definitely get back to skylines. So does anyone feel like Miami could step up to the plate and be USA's 3rd skyline city ? Miami is coming along, and its got a nice harbor. Of course it's nowhere near NYC or Chicago, but it could still beat out San Fran/seattle, and be America's 3rd skyline city, what do you guys think ? They have a 300 meter building approved in Miami, but the only problem is that Miami's maximum height is 308 meters, so it will never have any really tall buildings.

isaidso
April 28th, 2012, 07:03 AM
Agreed, we should definitely get back to skylines. So does anyone feel like Miami could step up to the plate and be USA's 3rd skyline city ?

I'd rank Los Angeles or Seattle as the 3rd best skyline in the US. Miami's skyline is large, but there are quite a few other skylines in the US that I prefer: LA, Seattle, SF, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Houston, Detroit, Cleveland, even Boston.

(Check your private messages. I sent you one.)

iloveclassicrock7
April 28th, 2012, 08:04 AM
I'd rank Los Angeles or Seattle as the 3rd best skyline in the US. Miami's skyline is large, but there are quite a few other skylines in the US that I prefer: LA, Seattle, SF, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Houston, Detroit, Cleveland, even Boston.

(Check your private messages. I sent you one.)

Answered it. Also, LA is iconic on some level, but the skyline is small. Miami needs a iconic super-tall building before its considered. I don't like SF in its current state, Philly has some great architecture, Seattle is pretty good, I forgot about Houston for a second, kind of funny considering my future brother in-law lives there, but it has a great skyline, a bit small, but if it gets a iconic super-tall, it would stand out. Minneapolis looks good, can't think of Pittsburgh and Cleveland right now, and Boston is alright

yankeesfan1000
April 30th, 2012, 04:12 PM
I'd put Philly as #3 in the US, followed by Houston and Seattle. They're all so close though, one even medium sized building in any of them could force me to reshuffle them.

It pains me to say this as a born and raised NYer, but I still have Chicago ahead of NY until some of NYs 1000+ footers start to break the monotonous plateau of 600-700 footers. But with the amount of 1000 footers NYs got in the works, once they all start to have an impact, say in 2015, NY will be my #1 for a long time unless Chicago goes on a 5-7 year tear. Side note, 1 WTC is due to pass the ESB as the tallest building in the city today.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7216/7126899085_675fb393cb_b.jpg
PeetThePhotographer (http://www.flickr.com/people/peet/)

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Lens Shooter (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lens_shooter/7127980923/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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Wunderworld (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bianca_bauer/6980192152/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

isaidso
April 30th, 2012, 04:46 PM
I have some difficulty ranking US skylines after the first 2 as well. There's not much separating 3-12. I don't find NY skyline shots of the downtown all that representative as it's midtown where the big 'cluster' is.

iloveclassicrock7
April 30th, 2012, 05:14 PM
I'd put Philly as #3 in the US, followed by Houston and Seattle. They're all so close though, one even medium sized building in any of them could force me to reshuffle them.

It pains me to say this as a born and raised NYer, but I still have Chicago ahead of NY until some of NYs 1000+ footers start to break the monotonous plateau of 600-700 footers. But with the amount of 1000 footers NYs got in the works, once they all start to have an impact, say in 2015, NY will be my #1 for a long time unless Chicago goes on a 5-7 year tear. Side note, 1 WTC is due to pass the ESB as the tallest building in the city today.


Lens Shooter (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lens_shooter/7127980923/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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I know what you mean man, New York is extremely impressive, but Chicago is more beautiful aesthetically, and I love the Sears, and the Trump is an amazing addition to the skyline, as well as, one of my favorite skyscrapers now. Chicago is a more modern counterpart to NYC in a way, so I don't compare them usually and just put them both in the top 3 world skylines, because they are also possibly the most unique skylines in the world, nothing looks like Chicago, and nothing looks like NYC.

Also Philadelphia as 3# makes sense, it has a great skyline

iloveclassicrock7
April 30th, 2012, 05:22 PM
I have some difficulty ranking US skylines after the first 2 as well. There's not much separating 3-12. I don't find NY skyline shots of the downtown all that representative as it's midtown where the big 'cluster' is.

Yeah I agree, its hard to rank after the first 2. Deciding between Houston, Philly, SF and more is hard, btw did you get the last pm ?

Dralcoffin
April 30th, 2012, 05:26 PM
Number #3 in the US is such a tough decision. For me personally, based on the shape of the skyline, the setting, and the architecture, I lean towards Seattle.

(Size-wise, it'd be Miami, followed closely by Houston, but I'm not really a fan of either skyline.)

yankeesfan1000
April 30th, 2012, 06:45 PM
I know what you mean man, New York is extremely impressive, but Chicago is more beautiful aesthetically...

I think that's the main difference. Chicago's is more postcard friendly, more beautiful aesthetically, but the sheer size of NY is much more impressive and imposing. And I didn't want to spark outrage in the Chicago thread, but the nickname 'Gotham' was given to NY by Washington Irving in 1807, in his book 'A History of New-York from the Beginning of the World to the End of the Dutch Dynasty' and he published the book under the name of Dietrich Knickerbocker, and that's also where the name Knickerbocker comes from as a reference to NYers, all before Chicago was officially founded as a city in 1833. Just an interesting tidbit of history.

Number #3 in the US is such a tough decision. For me personally, based on the shape of the skyline, the setting, and the architecture, I lean towards Seattle.

Seattle has the natural setting the others don't have. It just needs one more building of a decent size and then it'll be #3 in my book.

iloveclassicrock7
April 30th, 2012, 08:26 PM
I think that's the main difference. Chicago's is more postcard friendly, more beautiful aesthetically, but the sheer size of NY is much more impressive and imposing. And I didn't want to spark outrage in the Chicago thread, but the nickname 'Gotham' was given to NY by Washington Irving in 1807, in his book 'A History of New-York from the Beginning of the World to the End of the Dutch Dynasty' and he published the book under the name of Dietrich Knickerbocker, and that's also where the name Knickerbocker comes from as a reference to NYers, all before Chicago was officially founded as a city in 1833. Just an interesting tidbit of history.



Seattle has the natural setting the others don't have. It just needs one more building of a decent size and then it'll be #3 in my book.

Its all good man, I was calling it Gotham based off of looks, and because of Chicago being Gotham city in the Batman movies. After how insanely good Dark Knight was, I always think Chicago when I think of Gotham, partly because the two needles on the Black Sears tower and Hancock which make it look like I expect Gotham to look. Another thing about Chicago I mentioned in another thread, Is how insane it is when you are out a few miles on Lake Michigan, and can see the entire 8 mile stretch of Skyline, its pretty magnificent. Another thing I love about both cities is the history, and all the historic buildings that both cities have.

But anyways, lets talk about 3#. Seattle has a great skyline, but I am going to go with Houston, since it has 2 supertalls, and an great downtown and uptown skyline. Pics to prove it

http://innerloophouston.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/George-O-Photo.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/bayoucityhistory/files/legacy/hi_j0060.JPG
Downtown

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4085/5170050263_3b97cb3df1.jpg

Uptown
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/16/21562156_3d139a9962_z.jpg?zz=1

Dralcoffin
April 30th, 2012, 10:54 PM
Houston's size is definitely a point in its favor, but my least favorite time in architecture was the late 70s and 1980s -- right when almost all of Houston's skyline was built. Denver suffers from the same effect. As well, I'm not a fan of Houston's urban form. It's getting better, but I still dislike its car-oriented form.

iloveclassicrock7
May 1st, 2012, 02:41 AM
Houston's size is definitely a point in its favor, but my least favorite time in architecture was the late 70s and 1980s -- right when almost all of Houston's skyline was built. Denver suffers from the same effect. As well, I'm not a fan of Houston's urban form. It's getting better, but I still dislike its car-oriented form.

The skyline in Houston looks good, but I agree on the part about architecture. The tallest buildings in Houston are rather uninspiring, and are just ok, they look good in the skyline together, and the skyline is impressive from certain angles, but alone it's only average.

The city with the tallest building outside of Chicago and New York is Atlanta which has a 312m building, but Atlanta doesn't have a good enough skyline. So it's between Philly, Seattle, and Houston. I am still going to go with Houston, since it has 14 buildings over 200m, compared to Philly which has 5 buildings over 200m, and Seattle which has 4 over 200m.

desertpunk
May 1st, 2012, 08:08 AM
NYC

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8003/7129780225_b6ecb96c22_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/7129780225/)
One World Trade Center (1,271 feet) becomes New York's tallest Skyscraper on April 30, 2012 (vs. 1,250 feet for the Empire State Building) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/7129780225/) by jag9889 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jag9889/), on Flickr

waldenbg
May 1st, 2012, 02:09 PM
Toronto!!

Blue:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7137/7122536307_2e7c23149f_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7177/6884786526_95e0a2b860_b.jpg

Sunrise:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7204/6866356645_403239844f_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6228/7004762669_451e1ff714_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6040/7025797279_8e717c0508_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6663630109_c553147405_b.jpg

So much construction!!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7274/7022607047_bf6461d5b5_b.jpg

The Ripley's Aquarium is being built at the base of the CN Tower:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6053/6342762225_c2d7b41c15_o.jpg

The million dollar view!!:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7054/6837620484_13c9dbcdb2_b.jpg

Financial district:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6747019289_81d314a4e5_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6663630109_c553147405_b.jpg

An cool rare view of "Old Toronto":
http://www.metroperspectives.com/img/s11/v32/p130697853-5.jpg

HK999
May 1st, 2012, 05:50 PM
^^ You need to post the source.

A very flattering angle...



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isaidso
May 2nd, 2012, 05:53 PM
Is that taken from New Jersey?

isaidso
May 2nd, 2012, 05:55 PM
An cool rare view of "Old Toronto":
http://www.metroperspectives.com/img/s11/v32/p130697853-5.jpg

I do love that angle. It really shows how much density there is directly to the east and north of the CBD. Btw, I'll start you off with crediting photos. This photo is obviously courtesy of Aaron Segaert.

yankeesfan1000
May 2nd, 2012, 07:38 PM
Is that taken from New Jersey?

Yup!

HK999
May 2nd, 2012, 07:55 PM
And another one...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8153/7128400237_84f89c4a7f_b.jpg
[ raymond ] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/raymondhaddad/)

Lower Manhattan is going to be beautiful once the new WTC is completed (along with 99 Church Str, 50 West etc.).

GenericUser
May 5th, 2012, 07:01 AM
Toronto is amazing! It just needs a few supertalls! I can't wait to see what it'll look like in a few years :)

In my opinion:

1) Chicago (home town bias :lol:)
2) NYC
3) Toronto
4) Vancouver
5) Seattle
6) Calgary
Edit: 7) Panama
7) Houston
8) Philidelphia
9) Miami
10) Los Angeles

desertpunk
May 5th, 2012, 07:31 AM
Chicago

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4152/5080290172_23f7de0407_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/changoblanco3/5080290172/)
555 W Kinzie 001 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/changoblanco3/5080290172/) by Sky Ninja (http://www.flickr.com/people/changoblanco3/), on Flickr

desertpunk
May 5th, 2012, 07:38 AM
Los Angeles

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4058/4671276516_8209b27648_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jchengj/4671276516/)
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iloveclassicrock7
May 6th, 2012, 03:24 AM
Chicago

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4152/5080290172_23f7de0407_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/changoblanco3/5080290172/)
555 W Kinzie 001 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/changoblanco3/5080290172/) by Sky Ninja (http://www.flickr.com/people/changoblanco3/), on Flickr

Love this one.

HK999
May 6th, 2012, 02:52 PM
If someone mentions "style" or "classy" in terms of skylines, Chicago is the first city which comes to mind. This city is a feast for skyscraper and architecure lovers.

Toronto areal:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5113/7077128649_56f3f45be0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thingsmelissamakes/7077128649/)
Toronto From Above (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thingsmelissamakes/7077128649/) by thingsmelissamakes (http://www.flickr.com/people/thingsmelissamakes/) on Flickr

koolio
May 6th, 2012, 06:31 PM
Didn't realize Chicago has a fairly large stock of red brick buildings. I generally only associated them with NYC and Philadelphia.

isaidso
May 7th, 2012, 12:06 AM
I love deep red brick. Brick in general looks great, but prefer richer colours over beige or white. Black, charcoal, or red are all good.

desertpunk
May 7th, 2012, 12:14 AM
Didn't realize Chicago has a fairly large stock of red brick buildings. I generally only associated them with NYC and Philadelphia.

It's the result of changed building codes after the catastrophic fire in 1871. Other cities like St. Louis (1849 fire) that experienced the same thing have large inventories of brick structures. One reason why Buffalo's housing stock appears so decrepit is that they never had a major fire so ironically, they never had to mandate brick construction and thus have a flimsier housing stock than if a massive fire had destroyed the city.

Sarcasticity
May 7th, 2012, 12:32 AM
How old is that "Old Toronto" picture? And is that portion of the waterfront in the picture part of the harbor that's currently in the rehabilitation process?

isaidso
May 7th, 2012, 02:29 AM
How old is that "Old Toronto" picture? And is that portion of the waterfront in the picture part of the harbor that's currently in the rehabilitation process?

Bay-Adelaide is there, but Trump is missing so it's about 2 years old. The brown fields along the waterfront is the area being developed. It's called East Bayfront while the extreme eastern end north of that highway is called West Don Lands and is also being developed.

koolio
May 7th, 2012, 05:27 AM
It's the result of changed building codes after the catastrophic fire in 1871. Other cities like St. Louis (1849 fire) that experienced the same thing have large inventories of brick structures. One reason why Buffalo's housing stock appears so decrepit is that they never had a major fire so ironically, they never had to mandate brick construction and thus have a flimsier housing stock than if a massive fire had destroyed the city.

Is it too late to set some portions of Buffalo on fire? I'm going down there again this weekend ....

desertpunk
May 7th, 2012, 06:00 AM
Is it too late to set some portions of Buffalo on fire? I'm going down there again this weekend ....

It probably is given that whatever burns down will likely not be rebuilt. ;)

HK999
May 8th, 2012, 09:25 AM
Found by Otie, props to him...

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/supermoon050712/s01_RTR31PUL.jpg
(Reuters/Gary Hershorn) (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/05/supermoon-2012/100291/)The full moon rises over the skyline of Lower Manhattan and One World Trade Center in New York, as seen from West Orange, New Jersey, on May 6, 2012.

The WTC strikes back!

iloveclassicrock7
May 8th, 2012, 09:42 PM
Found by Otie, props to him...

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/supermoon050712/s01_RTR31PUL.jpg
(Reuters/Gary Hershorn) (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/05/supermoon-2012/100291/)The full moon rises over the skyline of Lower Manhattan and One World Trade Center in New York, as seen from West Orange, New Jersey, on May 6, 2012.

The WTC strikes back!

The Empire(State)Strikes back !

Not my photo, if anyone knows who took it, I will give them credit.


http://i.imgur.com/MKLJG.jpg

Dralcoffin
May 9th, 2012, 12:54 AM
It probably is given that whatever burns down will likely not be rebuilt. ;)

It's pretty jarring that the same state has perhaps the healthiest big city in the country (NYC) and a city like Buffalo that is just fading away....

desertpunk
May 9th, 2012, 07:33 AM
Houston

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