DISCUSS: Best North American Skyline [Archive] - Page 7

GenericUser

May 13th, 2012, 09:54 AM

I agree 1000% with this. In North America, it's probably 4 or 5 based on all the traditional variables.

My Top 10
1. New York, New York
2. Chicago, Illinois
3. Panama City, Panama
4. Toronto, Ontario
5. Seattle, Washington
6. San Francisco, California
7. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
8. Houston, Texas
9. Minneapolis, Minnesota
10. Calgary, Alberta

Honorable Mentions
Boston, Massachusetts
Mexico City, Mexico
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Vancouver, British Columbia

I live in Chicago, but I've visited Toronto a few times and can tell you that it is easily on the same level. Have you seen how much construction there is? It's not exactly on par just yet, because it is missing a few much needed super falls, but it is definitely on the same level. The only problem with Toronto is that it's not photogenic. Chicago has a river that runs through downtown and the buildings are built along the lakeshore, which make the typical tourist shots Chicago's best angles. Having been to Toronto's islands, I can tell you that the typical tourist shot does not even capture a quarter of Toronto's skyline.

As for placing Panama above Toronto, I'll let you be the judge of that:

Panama:

http://i46.tinypic.com/160q8f6.png

Toronto (Red rectangle represents the scope of a typical Toronto skyline shot):

http://i49.tinypic.com/2556hx0.png

*Note that I had zoom in a little or Panama's "core" would've looked too small to see...

bennyboo

May 13th, 2012, 11:45 AM

when viewing a city you usually arent looking at it through a space point of view.

Manitopiaaa

May 13th, 2012, 12:58 PM

According to the listing on Almanac of Architecture and Design here are the best skylines in North America (Int'l Rank)

1. New York (2)
2. Chicago (5)
3. Panama City (15)
4. Toronto (17)
5. Miami (23)
6. Houston (24)
7. Los Angeles (31)
8. Atlanta (34)
9. San Francisco (35)
10. Las Vegas (41)
http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html

I don't see why Panama City's skyline being better than Toronto's is so ludicruous. Also it's worth pointing out your "zooming in" accidently missed out on one of Panama City's biggest zone of skyscrapers (Costa del Este) and cropped off half of the ones on Avenida Balboa. I have been to New York (3 days), Chicago (2 days), Toronto (1 day), and Panama City (a lot). I found New York's to be the most amazing I've ever seen during night and liked Chicago's skyline better in the day. It looked orderly, well-structured and beautiful. Toronto's had great height and density but after having visited New York City, it didn't have a pow-factor. Sure I probably gave Panama one or two bonus points for being my home country but I don't feel I cheated Toronto out of the top 3 spot by any means. In fact, I was torn about giving Seattle #4 since that backdrop is just to die for. :cheers:

PS-Boosterism is the worst way to prop up your city. People here have seen pictures of all major skylines and some have traveled to most major skylines and we can see right through it. As the other poster aptly put it, Toronto is a beautiful skyline and one of the best in North America but it's nowhere close to Chicago's and not even 10% of New York City's.

Here's some good pics of Panama City's Skyline as well:

This was the Skyline you zoomed in on. It's Punta Pacifica and in my opinion is the ugliest part of Panama City's skyline. Notice however that the backdrop of the city next to virgin rainforests adds in a great bonus in my opinion just like Mount Rainier does to Seattle or Vancouver gets from its mountains

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Post by forumer arqTerko
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294042_2378736825966_1177014069_2878875_1048383497_n.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6199/6106144457_df1b17ba4b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/umlo-portfolio/6106144457/)
PANAMA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/umlo-portfolio/6106144457/) by Esdras Jaimes (http://www.flickr.com/people/umlo-portfolio/), on Flickr

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www.ocholeguas.com
El portal de viajes de ELMUNDO.es

http://www.ocholeguas.com/2011/12/22/america/1324551218.html

http://estaticos.ocholeguas.com/albumes/2011/12/22/panama/1324557603_extras_albumes_1.jpg

http://estaticos.ocholeguas.com/albumes/2011/12/22/panama/1324557708_extras_albumes_0.jpg

http://estaticos.ocholeguas.com/albumes/2011/12/22/panama/1324557733_extras_albumes_0.jpg

Panama City
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6712197273_e261fc38d2_b.jpg
2012.01.16-IMG_0190 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/travelinglibrarian/6712197273/) por martin_kalfatovic (http://www.flickr.com/people/travelinglibrarian/), en Flickr

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4017/4404607061_ddf66ce4d1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48041669@N03/4404607061/)
Ciudad Gotica - Panamá (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48041669@N03/4404607061/) por Richardr507 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48041669@N03/), en Flickr

Here's also a recently posted video showing Panama City's Skyline
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Sorry for being too lazy to look for some "amazing" pics but here's the city at face-value with no space-view gimmicks or boosterism lol

Here's a link to where I got the above pictures and video and it has more pics of Panama City's skyline as well: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1370513&page=41

bild tall!

May 13th, 2012, 01:11 PM

new york the bigest but i like chicaco more.

Sarcasticity

May 13th, 2012, 04:29 PM

I think one of the reason Toronto's skyline isn't as photogenic as Chicago (other than height and architecture - imo, Chicago wins) despite similar topography, Chicago's skyline is more spread out and deeply built across the lakeshore, while as you can clearly see in the Toronto aerial, Toronto's skyline is more linear and concentrated further inland which you can clearly observe when on top of CN Tower.

This is the typical skyline shot of Toronto from The Islands

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/380285_3871907326771_1551279407_33228668_377739806_n.jpg

It's not even close to how big the skyline actually is

desertpunk

May 14th, 2012, 01:05 AM

GenericUser

May 14th, 2012, 01:29 AM

Chicago has a lot of historical layers you don't see in Toronto along with supertall heights and 'texture breaks' that give the skyline more depth and substance. Toronto risks becoming another Vancouver: a banal sea of concrete and glass that elicits as much enthusiasm as Panama City's sea of bland, frankly ugly, cement high rises. Architectural quality has improved noticeably in TO but not enough to offset the crystalline boxes that threaten to dominate the view from every direction.

The other thing to consider is that while Chicago is in a lull, we're seeing some of the same weak, economical glass boxes going up there so hopefully the housing market will recover before too many of those nasty rental towers start crowding out the good stuff. And considering what's already on the boards in Chicago, when that housing market returns the result will be some spectacular additions, most notably Wolf Point. :cheers:

As a Chicago resident, I wholeheartedly disagree with you. In my opinion, Chicago has way too many ugly buildings downtown. Just because they're older, it doesn't make them nicer than Toronto's. Also, Toronto has a much more simplistic look with clean solid lines, and I don't recall seeing a single major dilapidated building downtown. Have you been to downtown Chicago? I live in Hyde Park, and my friend lives on Montrose, so we tend to meet up in downtown quite often. I can assure you that the quality of architecture is not all that great other than the few standout high-rises. It's kind of sad to see the city in such despair, but it is obviously a result of downtown's population having decreased by almost 30% since the 60s while Toronto's, which was a fraction of Chicago's back then, is almost the exact same size now :ohno: With that said, I'd still put Chicago above Toronto because we've been lucky enough to have a few gems built here, specifically, the supertalls. Other things that Chicago has over Toronto are the river and Millennium Park :)

Lastly, I've stayed in Panama for a few days, and whoever puts it on par with Toronto is EXTREMELY biased. The skyline is much smaller than Toronto's, the architecture is complete garbage, even for a brutalist lover like myself, and their tallest building would be completely lost even in Toronto's "Uptown" (I believe it was called Yorkville, but I may be wrong?) cluster

Manitopiaaa

May 14th, 2012, 02:29 AM

GenericUser

May 14th, 2012, 03:56 AM

^^ "EXTREMELY" biased is the person who won't let go of the stupid idea that Toronto is anywhere close to Chicago in terms of skyline. I'm pretty sure everyone here disagrees with you, every skyline ranking disagrees with you, every bit of evidence you give is just opinion based on the fact that you live in a city you obviously despise. I'd wager to say that you are just incredibly jealous of Chicago and feel the need to start a stupid discussion over it to overcome your petty inferiority complex. Everyone here is willing to acknowledge that Toronto's skyline is one of the best in North America BUT no one is willing to say it's better than Chicago's. Yet you continue to go down this endeavor, pissing off every forumer you meet and actually ruining our perceptions of Toronto in the process. Your boosterism isn't working, so cut it out!

I absolutely LOVE Chicago, but unlike you, I'm all for acknowledging my city's weaknesses to give room for improvement. I guarantee that anybody that actually lives in Chicago, and isn't just a tourist there will vouch for everything I've said thus far. Please don't act like you, as a tourist, have superior knowledge of Chicago than I, a citizen. Not a single time have I said that Toronto's skyline is better than Chicago's either; I think you're just upset cause it is universally accepted that Panama doesn't even crack North America's top 10, let alone the top 5. In my opinion, Honolulu's skyline is a lot nicer than Panama's, and that doesn't even make the top 10 on most lists.

P.S. Don't lunge out and call me biased when I have continuously stated that Chicago is better than Toronto in a lot of ways. I'm just being realistic and acknowledging that Toronto has surpassed Chicago in a lot of ways, and that actually makes me sad. Especially when I see how vibrant Chicago was in movies like Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I wasn't born when that movie came out, so all I've come to see is a continuous decline, and I absolutely despise the city's administration and hold them 100% accountable for all of this. If you think I hate Chicago, you are DEAD wrong, as I have and will continuously state, I think it has North America's best skyline. Go back a few pages, I even ranked it on top of NY. In my opinion, you are just upset because your bias towards your hometown is so farfetched it makes most people here laugh. Putting Panama 3rd in North America? You think Panama has a nicer skyline than Houston, LA, Miami, Seattle? LOL...

Dralcoffin

May 14th, 2012, 04:54 AM

Especially when I see how vibrant Chicago was in movies like Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I wasn't born when that movie came out, so all I've come to see is a continuous decline...

Really? In the mid-1980s Chicago was much more rundown and stagnant than it is today. While there's the odd neighborhood that has continued to go downhill, most of the city is far healthier than it was 25 years ago. When Ferris Bueller was filmed, everything south and west of the Loop was a sea of abandoned lots and empty warehouses, not the thriving neighborhoods they are today. River North was dominated by Cabrini Green, now it's dominated by the sea of (admittedly ugly but economically vital) highrises that has sprung up there. Yes, the population has still dipped slightly from the mid 1980s, but economically Chicago is a lot better off, and more sustainable, than in 1986. Back then, stable neighborhoods were pretty much the North Side and that's it. Now, the Milwaukee Avenue corridor is booming and pushing out into other neighborhoods, Hispanics have revitalized Pilsen and much of the Southwest Side, and even the Hyde Park area is seeing gentrification push out into the urban wilderness. Like any big city, Chicago has had ups and downs, but it hasn't seen the continuing collapse that was threatening to happen in the 1970s and early 1980s.

GenericUser

May 14th, 2012, 05:17 AM

Really? In the mid-1980s Chicago was much more rundown and stagnant than it is today. While there's the odd neighborhood that has continued to go downhill, most of the city is far healthier than it was 25 years ago. When Ferris Bueller was filmed, everything south and west of the Loop was a sea of abandoned lots and empty warehouses, not the thriving neighborhoods they are today. River North was dominated by Cabrini Green, now it's dominated by the sea of (admittedly ugly but economically vital) highrises that has sprung up there. Yes, the population has still dipped slightly from the mid 1980s, but economically Chicago is a lot better off, and more sustainable, than in 1986. Back then, stable neighborhoods were pretty much the North Side and that's it. Now, the Milwaukee Avenue corridor is booming and pushing out into other neighborhoods, Hispanics have revitalized Pilsen and much of the Southwest Side, and even the Hyde Park area is seeing gentrification push out into the urban wilderness. Like any big city, Chicago has had ups and downs, but it hasn't seen the continuing collapse that was threatening to happen in the 1970s and early 1980s.

Yes, Cabrini Green its still fresh in the mindsets of most people, but to say that more of Chicago was abandoned in 1980 than today is ludicrous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago#Demographics

Chicago's population in 1980: 3,005,072
Chicago's population in 2010: 2,695,598

Losing 10% of its population is not a slight dip by any means. I wish I were as optimistic as you, but if you go to the Chicago forum, you will see that other users, such as chicagogeorge are also willing to speak the truth.

Dralcoffin

May 14th, 2012, 05:27 AM

Since when has absolute population change been a good indicator of a city's economic health? Not to mention that over two-thirds of that drop you mention took place in the 1980s. The past twenty years has seen the population stabilize, and Cook County is gaining people once more, meaning the city most likely is as well. Sure, I'm optimistic, but what makes pessimism any more of the truth? Chicago is a hell of a lot tougher and durable than either you or George give the city credit for. The city's simply too important to the country, and world economy, to fade away, and there's a reason I'm looking forward to living in Chicago instead of a New York or San Francisco.

isaidso

May 14th, 2012, 05:31 AM

People should be allowed to post their opinions without being insulted or called biased. If someone thinks Pittsburgh is the best in north America that doesn't mean they're a moron or have a Pittsburgh bias. That's my 2 cents.

:2cents:

GenericUser

May 14th, 2012, 05:53 AM

Dralcoffin

May 14th, 2012, 06:01 AM

Funny; that's what was said about Detroit. How about we try something different instead of blindfolding ourselves and hoping for the best this time around?

Funny, I actually am planning to do something about it instead of taking the easy approach and cutting and running to the suburbs. Soon as school is done, I plan to be in Chicago, spending my money in the city limits, and I plan to raise my children in the city as well. If only more people were willing to do so, but I believe my generation will be the one that revitalizes our cities.

But this is a skyline thread, not a state of the cities thread.

GenericUser

May 14th, 2012, 06:13 AM

Funny, I actually am planning to do something about it instead of taking the easy approach and cutting and running to the suburbs. Soon as school is done, I plan to be in Chicago, spending my money in the city limits, and I plan to raise my children in the city as well. If only more people were willing to do so...

But this is a skyline thread, not a state of the cities thread.

You're a good man. That's actually my plan as well :)

...moving on: Does anyone have recent Dallas pics? :cheers:

Dralcoffin

May 14th, 2012, 06:21 AM

You're a good man. That's actually my plan as well :)

...moving on: Does anyone have recent Dallas pics? :cheers:

Agreed. Sorry if I got a little snappy; I know I can get headstrong sometimes.

Dallas

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5142/5765982980_2c5f6510ca_b.jpg
Dallas Skyline at Sunset by Phil Crawshay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/austingallery/5765982980/)

Dallas might be my favorite of the 1980s oil boom skylines, as there are some interesting color and texture choices in the Dallas skyline. The green of the Renaissance Tower and the curved top of the Comerica Bank Building come to mind.

GenericUser

May 14th, 2012, 06:33 AM

Agreed. Sorry if I got a little snappy; I know I can get headstrong sometimes.
Dallas might be my favorite of the 1980s oil boom skylines, as there are some interesting color and texture choices in the Dallas skyline. The green of the Renaissance Tower and the curved top of the Comerica Bank Building come to mind.

No worries! :) I completely agree. I love Dallas, especially at night. The Renaissance Tower has one of my favourite night lighting in North America :cheers:

iloveclassicrock7

May 14th, 2012, 07:52 AM

isaidso

May 14th, 2012, 09:36 AM

That's right. He has a different opinion; just like that architects poll is someone's opinion. Good grief!

:sleepy:

Manitopiaaa

May 14th, 2012, 10:08 AM

I absolutely LOVE Chicago, but unlike you, I'm all for acknowledging my city's weaknesses to give room for improvement. I guarantee that anybody that actually lives in Chicago, and isn't just a tourist there will vouch for everything I've said thus far. Please don't act like you, as a tourist, have superior knowledge of Chicago than I, a citizen. Not a single time have I said that Toronto's skyline is better than Chicago's either; I think you're just upset cause it is universally accepted that Panama doesn't even crack North America's top 10, let alone the top 5. In my opinion, Honolulu's skyline is a lot nicer than Panama's, and that doesn't even make the top 10 on most lists.

P.S. Don't lunge out and call me biased when I have continuously stated that Chicago is better than Toronto in a lot of ways. I'm just being realistic and acknowledging that Toronto has surpassed Chicago in a lot of ways, and that actually makes me sad. Especially when I see how vibrant Chicago was in movies like Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I wasn't born when that movie came out, so all I've come to see is a continuous decline, and I absolutely despise the city's administration and hold them 100% accountable for all of this. If you think I hate Chicago, you are DEAD wrong, as I have and will continuously state, I think it has North America's best skyline. Go back a few pages, I even ranked it on top of NY. In my opinion, you are just upset because your bias towards your hometown is so farfetched it makes most people here laugh. Putting Panama 3rd in North America? You think Panama has a nicer skyline than Houston, LA, Miami, Seattle? LOL...

:lol: You're telling me a Anglo-American has an Anglo-centric bias towards the skylines of Anglo-centric cities? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you! This isn't even about Panama. I actually posted to agree with the forumer who said Chicago's skyline was better. You brought up Panama to hurt my little wittle feelings and I'm crying on my keyboard right now cause your opinion means so much to me. If anything, the fact that you are incensed just shows that this is emotional for you. Stop trying to make this a huge, scientific deal because the concensus is that Chicago's skyline is one the best in the world and Toronto's is a B-Tier Skyline on par with Chinese suburbs like Wuxi, Suzhou and Shenzhen. The fact that you keep arguing your point even though every post has disagreed with you shows that you don't give two flips about others opinions and just want to troll away as far as the horizon goes with your Toronto boosterism that nobody cares about. As for your insults about my city, I'd wager to say that you've never visited in your life because the Panamanian skyline is definitely one of the best in North America and definitively the best in Latin America. You can keep crowing all you want about Toronto but it will never be the best skyline in a region of 600,000,000 people :cheers:

Manitopiaaa

May 14th, 2012, 10:13 AM

Agreed. Sorry if I got a little snappy; I know I can get headstrong sometimes.

Dallas

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5142/5765982980_2c5f6510ca_b.jpg
Dallas Skyline at Sunset by Phil Crawshay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/austingallery/5765982980/)

Dallas might be my favorite of the 1980s oil boom skylines, as there are some interesting color and texture choices in the Dallas skyline. The green of the Renaissance Tower and the curved top of the Comerica Bank Building come to mind.

I was in Dallas last November and the skyline blew me away. It definitely exceeded the pics here on SSC. Even during the day it didn't look bad and that's incredibly rare!

Manitopiaaa

May 14th, 2012, 10:15 AM

That's right. He has a different opinion; just like that architects poll is someone's opinion. Good grief!

:sleepy:

Architects aren't "someone's", they are experts in their fields and know much more about architecture than, say, an SSC forumer so there opinions should count way more than, say, an SSC forumer's. I think that's a false equivalency right there. :cheers:

But I get your point, let's stop talking about how Toronto's skyline was built by the Gods and is absolutely superior to any other skyline in the hemisphere. I completely agree :)

GenericUser

May 14th, 2012, 04:55 PM

I have to agree with you. I noticed he mentioned Chicago had bad architecture, well... it was voted by architects to have the best architecture in America... so, either he has a different opinion on architecture then everyone else, or doesn't live in Chicago. The whole statement about Chicago's population is also wrong. Chicago has gone from 3 million to 2.6 million just because of prices being high and people moving to the suburbs. BUT... the downtown area, especially the loop, has had major growth in population, which is what matters. Chicago's downtown is better then ever. Chicago now has atleast 8 200m + proposals in the work also. Toronto has a great skyline, but it needs better architecture.

LOL...do you live in Chicago? The funny thing is, every person that visits loves the place, because they're only focused on seeing the good. I love Chicago, but I think that our ego is killing the city, and has been for decades. We need to get off our asses and find a way to stop the population drain. Also, if you think that loop is all that matters, come say that to my community; Hyde Park (in the city of Chicago). It's an absolute joke that there are abandoned buildings all over the place, and crime is so rampant, even I, a person who hates living in suburbs, is considering moving. I can't live in downtown, because it is way too expensive.

That's right. He has a different opinion; just like that architects poll is someone's opinion. Good grief!

:sleepy:

Some people just think that their opinion > everyone else's. I would bet that many of these people have never seen Toronto in person :lol:

:lol: You're telling me a Anglo-American has an Anglo-centric bias towards the skylines of Anglo-centric cities? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you! This isn't even about Panama. I actually posted to agree with the forumer who said Chicago's skyline was better. You brought up Panama to hurt my little wittle feelings and I'm crying on my keyboard right now cause your opinion means so much to me. If anything, the fact that you are incensed just shows that this is emotional for you. Stop trying to make this a huge, scientific deal because the concensus is that Chicago's skyline is one the best in the world and Toronto's is a B-Tier Skyline on par with Chinese suburbs like Wuxi, Suzhou and Shenzhen. The fact that you keep arguing your point even though every post has disagreed with you shows that you don't give two flips about others opinions and just want to troll away as far as the horizon goes with your Toronto boosterism that nobody cares about. As for your insults about my city, I'd wager to say that you've never visited in your life because the Panamanian skyline is definitely one of the best in North America and definitively the best in Latin America. You can keep crowing all you want about Toronto but it will never be the best skyline in a region of 600,000,000 people :cheers:

You must be the one trolling, because I have continuously rated Chicago #1 in North America. Go look through my ratings in this thread, then talk. You're clearly upset because Panama's sea of bland concrete sticks doesn't crack North America's top 10, and it didn't in most people's lists, if you cared to look. Also, I never said that Chicago doesn't have better architecture than Toronto. I just said that beyond the few stand out buildings, Chicago is falling apart. You are a skyscraper enthusiast who probably doesn't care about the city. I, am a citizen of Chicago, and I'd love to see this city prosper in more ways than skyscraper muscle flexing. It is unbearable to see downtown pretty much rotting while these new skyscrapers get built on top of the mess. I simply said that we could learn a thing or two from Toronto and actually improve our city, not just give a few rich people better views of the dump below...

Architects aren't "someone's", they are experts in their fields and know much more about architecture than, say, an SSC forumer so there opinions should count way more than, say, an SSC forumer's. I think that's a false equivalency right there. :cheers:

But I get your point, let's stop talking about how Toronto's skyline was built by the Gods and is absolutely superior to any other skyline in the hemisphere. I completely agree :)

Yes, Chicago has better architecture, but that is my opinion, not a fact. No matter what polls you bring, it is still entirely subjective.
Edit: What's funny is that I just looked at the ratings of many Toronto members in this thread, and most of them put Toronto behind Chicago. Yet you put Panama #3 in North America when it didn't get into most people's top 10, are claiming they are biased? LOL. Learn to be humble, it is people like you who are ruining Chicago. Why fix our infrastructure and transportation networks when we can give a developer more incentives to build a bigger building? By the looks of things, that's how its done in Panama

koolio

May 14th, 2012, 07:48 PM

iloveclassicrock7

May 14th, 2012, 08:57 PM

There are certainly better skylines than Toronto in North America. Obviously New York City and Chicago don't even need to be mentioned ... Philadelphia, Houston, LA and Seattle can be considered legitimate candidates for number 3. But Panama City? I am honestly having a difficult time in coming up with reasons as to why it might be legitimately considered to have the 3rd best skyline in all of North America. People are entitled to their opinion, of course, and I would be foolish to ask someone to change it but certainly they must understand that no one else has been remotely convinced. They are free to draw whatever conclusion from it they please. Is it some sort of Anglo-Saxon bias or whatever? Maybe ... who knows.

Anyways, I think Houston could maybe be 3. Here are some pics, I want everyone to weigh in, and say whether you love it, hate it, and whether it might deserve 3. I am still definitely thinking it shouldn't get 3rd though. It has 2 300m + buildings, and one around 280 meters, but it needs an iconic supertall building with great architecture that stands a little above the skyline, say 330 meters, to get the 3rd spot, and a river or lake would help its rank.

http://www.damicoproperties.com/files/245851/houston_skyline_from_white_oak_bridge.jpg

PAN

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/101/255727575_9313e06461_o.jpg - flickr deneyterrio

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/96/210930247_234245e034_o.jpg - flickr OneEighteen

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/u/H6yMi6fUB_1JR964xxG8RxsYArlNNn1lR5PWutchIbgWUARffUUr-nRkkglgC0Q22ZOv_iaEEWCunA/

GenericUser

May 14th, 2012, 09:13 PM

There are certainly better skylines than Toronto in North America. Obviously New York City and Chicago don't even need to be mentioned ... Philadelphia, Houston, LA and Seattle can be considered legitimate candidates for number 3. But Panama City? I am honestly having a difficult time in coming up with reasons as to why it might be legitimately considered to have the 3rd best skyline in all of North America. People are entitled to their opinion, of course, and I would be foolish to ask someone to change it but certainly they must understand that no one else has been remotely convinced. They are free to draw whatever conclusion from it they please. Is it some sort of Anglo-Saxon bias or whatever? Maybe ... who knows.

I'm not sure if you are truly serious or just saying this to be kind. Everyone is entired to their opinions, but to say that Seattle has a better skyline than Toronto indicates that you likely have never been to Seattle. I hate to advocate Toronto so much, but I've visited it a few times and notice that it is SERIOUSLY underestimated here. I'd bet that a lot of that has to do with the fact that the typical skyline shots of Toronto capture maybe 25% of the skyline, at best

Anyways, I think Houston could maybe be 3. Here are some pics, I want everyone to weigh in, and say whether you love it, hate it, and whether it might deserve 3. I am still definitely thinking it shouldn't get 3rd though. It has 2 300m + buildings, and one around 280 meters, but it needs an iconic supertall building with great architecture that stands a little above the skyline, say 330 meters, to get the 3rd spot, and a river or lake would help its rank.

In my opinion, Houston is not even top 5 in North America. LA, and Philadelphia have better skylines and much more density. Houston is simply too scarred by barren surface parking lots at this point. It really isn't all that dense aside from a small cluster of buildings. Yes, you could argue that that is also the case for LA, but LA does have high-rises outside of the main cluster as well.

GenericUser

May 14th, 2012, 09:20 PM

Just thought I'd share this photo from a few months ago to add more than just words to this thread :)

http://i50.tinypic.com/2d0cggx.jpg

P.S. This is taken right outside of Merchandise Mart. That was my first time there, and I must say that the place is AMAZING. By far, the most amazing retail building I have ever been to!

iloveclassicrock7

May 15th, 2012, 01:31 AM

I'm not sure if you are truly serious or just saying this to be kind. Everyone is entired to their opinions, but to say that Seattle has a better skyline than Toronto indicates that you likely have never been to Seattle. I hate to advocate Toronto so much, but I've visited it a few times and notice that it is SERIOUSLY underestimated here. I'd bet that a lot of that has to do with the fact that the typical skyline shots of Toronto capture maybe 25% of the skyline, at best

In my opinion, Houston is not even top 5 in North America. LA, and Philadelphia have better skylines and much more density. Houston is simply too scarred by barren surface parking lots at this point. It really isn't all that dense aside from a small cluster of buildings. Yes, you could argue that that is also the case for LA, but LA does have high-rises outside of the main cluster as well.

Yeah, I am not too sure about Seattle, also I was mainly just showing Houston because it has a nice skyline, and 2 supertalls. Also, I know about Toronto's full skyline. It is horizontal to the lake, and goes back. It starts with the dense cluster of buildings, and then goes back to a fairly dense line of highrise buildings. It still isn't that dense or tall like the cluster though.
But it still should take the 3rd place, but it really needs better architecture.

Here are pics showing the skyline of Toronto and the density change

http://i.imgur.com/RyFwE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZNjRw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ngYLt.jpg

Still, very impressive.

Another US skyline to mention is Philly. It has a great collection of buildings, especially the Comcast center.

http://www.uwishunu.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/philadelphia-skyline-william-penn-680uw.jpg

nomarandlee

May 15th, 2012, 02:08 AM

As a Chicago resident, I wholeheartedly disagree with you. In my opinion, Chicago has way too many ugly buildings downtown. Just because they're older, it doesn't make them nicer than Toronto's.
Chicago has its fair sure of ugly high rises and towers downtown for sure. And not all the pre-war are beauts however by far some of the newer towers are the major culprits in terms of schlock design, especially the condos in River North.
Have you been to downtown Chicago? I live in Hyde Park, and my friend lives on Montrose, so we tend to meet up in downtown quite often. I can assure you that the quality of architecture is not all that great other than the few standout high-rises.
A few? :lol: Granted I still prefer most major European downtown centers over ours (or over most any North American city for that matter) and there are plenty of ho-hums and ugly Betty's standing amongst the crowd.

However if you think that the JHC, Lake Point Tower, Chicago Board of Trade Building, Marina City, Chicago Temple Building, Wrigley Building, Tribune Tower, Pittsfield Building, Jewelers Building, Lasalle-Wacker Building, Hotel InterContinental, London Exchange Building, Willoughby Tower, Carbide & Carbon Building etc. are all very average or not noteworthy and that many other city's wouldn't LOVE to posses such buildings themselves then I think you are flat out bonkers.
It's kind of sad to see the city in such despair, but it is obviously a result of downtown's population having decreased by almost 30%
Do you live in Chicago? In fact downtown is one of the few neighborhoods in the past 15 years that has seen a very appreciable population increase. The Loop and downtown used to be essentially dead after dark. Now much of the time it is bustling at all hours.

The fact is much of the current population loss over the last 10 years stems from many of the Chicago outer neighborhoods (often the ones with now demolished public housing) and has had minimal effect on how how downtown looks.

In fact I can't recall one person who claims that downtown looked better twenty or even forty years ago compared to now. There is of course room for improvement and lot of utilized lots still to be developed but to say the trajectory is downward is just baseless.
since the 60s while Toronto's, which was a fraction of Chicago's back then, is almost the exact same size now :ohno:
Chicagos metro has grown nearly 3 million people since the 1960s. Toronto has become the migrant and immigrant magnet for a whole nation in that time. Toronto has played the part of a big fish in a smaller pond. It's domestic competitors for labor and business not exactly as tough as the sun belt and major tech centers of the US. Kudos to Toronto for benefiting from that dynamic however it doesn't make an apples to apples comparison exactly.

GenericUser

May 15th, 2012, 04:37 AM

Do you live in Chicago?

Yep, near E Hyde Park Blvd and S Lake Park Ave. You make some very good points, but I still think that a lot of the Loop has fallen into despair. Sure, the main streets are ok, but even South Loop is a dangerous place to go now!

However, since this is a skyline debate, I maintain my position that Chicago has the best skyline in North America :)

desertpunk

May 15th, 2012, 09:43 AM

A slice of Miami:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7185/6982278075_f06030a2b9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yankis/6982278075/)
Entrance to Miami River (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yankis/6982278075/) by Yankis (http://www.flickr.com/people/yankis/), on Flickr

A bit more:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7070/6886754571_289c0026cf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yankis/6886754571/)
Entrance to the Port of Miami (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yankis/6886754571/) by Yankis (http://www.flickr.com/people/yankis/), on Flickr

desertpunk

May 15th, 2012, 10:27 AM

Pittsburgh

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/6997780866_bdc6e875c6_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewpaulson/6997780866/)
Pittsburgh at Night Last Shot (http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewpaulson/6997780866/) by Photomatt28 (http://www.flickr.com/people/matthewpaulson/), on Flickr

desertpunk

May 15th, 2012, 11:56 AM

Seattle

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7042/6855064635_11942bc4d6_b_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/silverder/

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8024/7000274052_b62b84c9ec_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7000274052/)
How a Seagull Sees Seattle (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7000274052/) by TIA International Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/tiascapes/), on Flickr

HK999

May 15th, 2012, 12:36 PM

A slice of Miami:

Damn, those look really nice. Miami sure is beautiful. :yes:

GenericUser

May 15th, 2012, 04:10 PM

Miami is absolutely gorgeous. My favourite features are all the canals in the city. Doesn't that water get stagnant though?

Dralcoffin

May 15th, 2012, 06:31 PM

Miami is absolutely gorgeous. My favourite features are all the canals in the city. Doesn't that water get stagnant though?

Those aren't so much canals as slow rivers and parts of the bay between built-up islands. I'd imagine the tides are pretty effective at keeping the water moving.

Jay

May 15th, 2012, 09:48 PM

I love Seattle's skyline, but it needs a supertall

someday...

Eduardo L. Ramirez

May 15th, 2012, 11:39 PM

New York

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2940/27927415.jpg
http://www.******************/search?q=Skyline&index=fotos&options=YToyOntzOjU6InN0YXJ0IjtzOjE6IjgiO3M6Njoic29ydGJ5IjtzOjg6ImRhdGV0aW1lIjt9&pos=9&display=27927415

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9657/27922695.jpg
http://www.******************/search?q=Skyline&index=fotos&options=YToyOntzOjU6InN0YXJ0IjtzOjE6IjgiO3M6Njoic29ydGJ5IjtzOjg6ImRhdGV0aW1lIjt9&pos=15&display=27922695

Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

;)

L.A.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7227/7199363182_0b8c7dc3be_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/salmanjafri/7199363182/)
Los Angeles from White Knoll Drive - High Resolution (http://www.flickr.com/photos/salmanjafri/7199363182/) by Salman Jafri (http://www.flickr.com/people/salmanjafri/), on Flickr

bennyboo

May 15th, 2012, 11:43 PM

i dont think it NEEDS one. besides, columbia center when accounting the hills has the appearance of a super tall anyway.

isaidso

May 16th, 2012, 09:32 PM

there opinions should count way more...

Architects have formal training, but it's still an opinion. Equating someone's opinion to being 'fact' is ridiculous. It's like saying sky blue is the best blue because interior decorators say so.

That's just stupid.

Some people just think that their opinion > everyone else's.

That's my point exactly. No one's opinion is worth more than someone else's. Continually quoting some architects ranking to prove that you are right and someone else is wrong is bound to solicit a rolling of the eyes. There is no right or wrong ranking.

GenericUser

May 17th, 2012, 04:49 AM

Architects have formal training, but it's still an opinion. Equating someone's opinion to being 'fact' is ridiculous. It's like saying sky blue is the best blue because interior decorators say so.

That's just stupid.

That's my point exactly. No one's opinion is worth more than someone else's. Continually quoting some architects ranking to prove that you are right and someone else is wrong is bound to solicit a rolling of the eyes. There is no right or wrong ranking.

Honestly, don't get too worked up over it. I love Chicago, and it is my home, but Toronto has A TON of stuff that I am envious of. The skyline debate is a joke, and that's all it will ever be. Why? Because I'm willing to bet that more than 95% of people discrediting Toronto have never seen it in person, and have only seen a few shots from the islands. If that was all I knew, I would discredit Toronto as well. Other than skyline though, I wish Chicago was as clean as Toronto. Don't even get me started on crime...sigh. I'd give Toronto #3 in North America, without a single doubt in my mind. With the current pace of development, Toronto will match Chicago within the next decade. While everyone here is against that, I'm really excited for it. I can't wait for the all the friendly competition :D

HK999

May 17th, 2012, 02:02 PM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7100/7210421738_4c3dc143e6_k.jpg
mudpig (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/7210421738/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7074/7162633130_0c2163512c_h.jpg
xnir (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xnir/7162633130/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

yankeesfan1000

May 17th, 2012, 03:23 PM

Thanks to NYGuy on SSP for digging this one up. The colors on this one are incredible.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5156/7207551326_18c0266806_b.jpg
drocpsu (http://www.flickr.com/photos/drocpsu/7207551326/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

Sarcasticity

May 17th, 2012, 10:37 PM

Honestly, don't get too worked up over it. I love Chicago, and it is my home, but Toronto has A TON of stuff that I am envious of. The skyline debate is a joke, and that's all it will ever be. Why? Because I'm willing to bet that more than 95% of people discrediting Toronto have never seen it in person, and have only seen a few shots from the islands. If that was all I knew, I would discredit Toronto as well. Other than skyline though, I wish Chicago was as clean as Toronto. Don't even get me started on crime...sigh. I'd give Toronto #3 in North America, without a single doubt in my mind. With the current pace of development, Toronto will match Chicago within the next decade. While everyone here is against that, I'm really excited for it. I can't wait for the all the friendly competition :D

Not everyone is against Chicago and Toronto being on the same level, but I see that your argument is getting as tired and dragging as iloveclassicrocks argument over Chicago being an architects favorite and how NYC and CHI are always going to be in the top 5 in the world.

MDguy

May 17th, 2012, 10:51 PM

Richmond, Virginia

Always enjoyed its skyline

http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/richmond/richmond_skyline_11_6852.jpg
By Bill Cobb at skylinescenes.com http://www.skylinescenes.com/richmond-va/richmond-virginia-skyline_v34152.html

isaidso

May 18th, 2012, 03:02 AM

Honestly, don't get too worked up over it.

I just want the forum to be a place where people can share their opinions without being talked down to. Back to photos. :)

desertpunk

May 24th, 2012, 10:04 AM

Toronto

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7086/6999069432_765b92832d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregdavidphotos/6999069432/)
Just another Toronto sunrise (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregdavidphotos/6999069432/) by Greg David (http://www.flickr.com/people/gregdavidphotos/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8002/7246209852_6f5c3ade46_h_d.jpg
Dave A7 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77172023@N02/) at Flickr

desertpunk

May 28th, 2012, 11:01 PM

Chicago

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7163322606_1e0929a4bb_b.jpg
Joshua Mellin (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7163322606_1e0929a4bb_z.jpg) at Flickr

iloveclassicrock7

May 29th, 2012, 02:32 AM

Chicago

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7163322606_1e0929a4bb_b.jpg
Joshua Mellin (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7163322606_1e0929a4bb_z.jpg) at Flickr

Wow,Incredible photo. The Trump looks incredible from that angle, and it is easily one of my favorite buildings in the world. There really aren't words to describe how beautiful this is.

http://i.imgur.com/LuV9P.jpg

HK999

May 29th, 2012, 09:58 PM

^^ Yeah, Trump Chicago is a fine building. I just don't like the antenna.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7089/7277218196_44175bebbf_h.jpg

by RichardSchneider (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richardleeschneider/) on flickr

iloveclassicrock7

May 29th, 2012, 10:25 PM

^^ Yeah, Trump Chicago is a fine building. I just don't like the antenna.

by RichardSchneider (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richardleeschneider/) on flickr

First off, incredible picture. Second, I think the trump spire could look better, but I am glad it is on the building, it makes the building look even better far away, and it definitely adds something to the building. The building wouldn't really look right without it, but the spire could have looked better, that is for sure.

GenericUser

May 31st, 2012, 07:24 AM

First off, incredible picture. Second, I think the trump spire could look better, but I am glad it is on the building, it makes the building look even better far away, and it definitely adds something to the building. The building wouldn't really look right without it, but the spire could have looked better, that is for sure.

I realize that its very subjective, but I don't know why people hate the spire. I love the look of it at night! It looks beautiful, and I especially like the colour they chose for the night lighting :)

iloveclassicrock7

June 1st, 2012, 01:44 AM

I realize that its very subjective, but I don't know why people hate the spire. I love the look of it at night! It looks beautiful, and I especially like the colour they chose for the night lighting :)

Yeah me too. Check out these incredible photos I just saw.

http://www.trumphotelcollection.com/images/masthead/Chicago_HotelOverview_Header_022212.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6119/6365884681_446701aa83_z.jpg

GenericUser

June 1st, 2012, 06:37 PM

Incredible pics, classicrock! Do you have any pictures of downtown from the North on Lakeshore heading southbound? I love that vantage point, even if it only highlights a small portion of the skyline :)

HK999

June 1st, 2012, 07:10 PM

Yeah me too. Check out these incredible photos I just saw.

http://www.trumphotelcollection.com/images/masthead/Chicago_HotelOverview_Header_022212.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6119/6365884681_446701aa83_z.jpg

I gotta admit that at night the antenna looks pretty cool. Love the lighting scheme.

Jay

June 1st, 2012, 11:37 PM

Chicago is such a beast

yankeesfan1000

June 2nd, 2012, 02:34 PM

Agreed. I still have Chicago as #1, but my hometown is catching up. Three buildings U/C in this photo, with a handful of 600+ footers inching closer to construction.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/jwalas/NY/Midtown/3ce18009.jpg
jwalas on SSP (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5720492&postcount=2580)

HK999

June 2nd, 2012, 03:59 PM

^^ With 1WTC, 4WTC and One57 nearing topping out, the average skyscraper height in NY will experience a big step forward. The city already transformed from a 200m to a 250m plateau. The next step is 300m. :yes:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7095/7319389028_9a2b6cf46d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/7319389028/)
New York City on June 2, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/7319389028/) von mudpig (http://www.flickr.com/people/yukonblizzard/) auf Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7234/7315397428_8d060d3470_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/7315397428/)
Manhattanhenge on May 31, 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/7315397428/) von mudpig (http://www.flickr.com/people/yukonblizzard/) auf Flickr

yankeesfan1000

June 2nd, 2012, 05:48 PM

iloveclassicrock7

June 2nd, 2012, 08:53 PM

Agreed. It's nice to finally have some towers rising above the 650-700 foot plateau in both midtown and downtown. It'll be a totally different skyline when One57, 1 WTC, and 4 WTC are done, and then we can watch at the very least 432 Park and the Hudson Yards South rise in the super tall category. Even friends of mine who have no interest in this at all are starting to notice, exciting times ahead for NY.

I don't know if One 57 will change things that much, but 1 WTC definitely will be a huge game changer. NYC will probably be my 1# until 432 park finishes. I still feel like it will destroy the midtown skyline, it is way too thin for that height. I am really hoping that 432 park will stop construction, and a better building, maybe 225 w 57th will rule the skyline.

Chicago will remain a close second, and Chicago has a 290m+ building rising this decade, as well as several gorgeous buildings in the 200m+ range. Chicago already has height, it just needs to work on density and expanding the west loop and near north, which they are working on, with several U/C and proposed buildings in those areas.

yankeesfan1000

June 2nd, 2012, 09:33 PM

iloveclassicrock7

June 2nd, 2012, 11:55 PM

One57 will anchor Central Park South which'll be big. Got 1 WTC downtown, ESB Midtown South, BofA in the middle of Midtown, and now One57 in northern Midtown. Plus it's a solid 1000+ footer.

Rumor is CIM will have financing for 432 Park by the end of the month, hold out until you see it, could be nice. I imagine high quality clear glass will be used, and then there will be a brushed nickel exoskeleton. Sounds nice to me. Plus 225 is very likely to get built, along with Verre plus 107 W 57th, all just along Central Park South.

Chicago is gonna have to step their game up.

Chicago had a huge boom from 2000-2010. Before the boom, Lakeshore East and the South Loop barely existed. Some of these pics are from before 2000, but LSE was built up in the period between 2003-2010

Chicago 1990's
http://www.okrentassociates.com/images/photography/beforeafter/lakeshoreE_before_1989.jpg

Chicago 2000
http://images.inmagine.com/img/purestock/prss035/prss035330.jpg
Chicago 2010
http://www.okrentassociates.com/images/photography/images/070110-070wm.jpg

Chicago 1988
http://www.okrentassociates.com/images/photography/beforeafter/nmich_B4_1988.jpg

Chicago 2007
http://www.okrentassociates.com/images/photography/beforeafter/nmich_after_2007.jpg

South Loop

2003
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/hauchyi/IMG_6450_crop-1.jpg
2008
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/hauchyi/IMG_6897.jpg

I still agree that it needs to step up its game, but it is crazy to see how far it has come in such a short time, and with all the development in the west loop, it will be exciting to watch the city continue to expand its skyline over the next decade.

During 2000-2010 Chicago got a building with a pinnacle height of 423 meters, tons of other very tall buildings, and massive expansion. With the market just starting to recover there are already close to 10 200m+ buildings that are either U/C or proposed, with the tallest proposal being a 290m+ building that is part of a billion dollar complex, so things are starting to pick up.

On my next post I will cover NYC and talk about 432 Park.

yankeesfan1000

June 3rd, 2012, 10:30 PM

Both had impressive runs the past decade. In NY a decade ago Midtown ended at Broadway, and almost nothing that exists today west of Broadway today, was around in 2000. Once more of Chicago's proposed buildings shift to construction then I'll have some more confidence in their recovery, but it's definitely heading in the right direction.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5048/5353820645_55227f588c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/360berlin/5353820645/sizes/l/in/photostream/

isaidso

June 4th, 2012, 04:05 AM

Manhattan dwarfs every other city on this continent. Monumental.

desertpunk

June 4th, 2012, 04:20 AM

Both had impressive runs the past decade. In NY a decade ago Midtown ended at Broadway, and almost nothing that exists today west of Broadway today, was around in 2000. Once more of Chicago's proposed buildings shift to construction then I'll have some more confidence in their recovery, but it's definitely heading in the right direction.

[IMG]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5048/5353820645_55227f588c_b.jpg[IMG]
http://www.flickr.com/photos/360berlin/5353820645/sizes/l/in/photostream/

I just don't think Chicago will have 15 supertalls in development like NYC. This economy seems to be accelerating the corporate erosion in Chicago.

iloveclassicrock7

June 4th, 2012, 05:13 AM

I just don't think Chicago will have 15 supertalls in development like NYC. This economy seems to be accelerating the corporate erosion in Chicago.

I just don't think Chicago will have 15 supertalls in development like NYC

Yeah, I don't see that happening. Chicago could definitely have 15 200m+ buildings, but 300m buildings... I don't see that happening, maybe 1 realistic 400m+ proposal within the next 5 years though.

This economy seems to be accelerating the corporate erosion in Chicago

Not sure about this, Chicago's market has started to get better. I am not the best source for this, but I haven't heard about too much corporate erosion. The office market continues to get better, and a billion dollar project is happening at Wolf Point, with the tallest tower in the project being atleast 290 meters. I would say the skyscraper market is starting to get better at a quick pace...

desertpunk

June 4th, 2012, 05:44 AM

Yeah, I don't see that happening. Chicago could definitely have 15 200m+ buildings, but 300m buildings... I don't see that happening, maybe 1 realistic 400m+ proposal within the next 5 years though.

I do think Chicago can easily build more high rises and skyscrapers than New York. land costs and zoning regulations in NYC are forcing more developers to go supertall with lots they can build on. Since skyscrapers and high rises are more capital-efficient, that's the path of least resistance in Chicago where rents and condo prices have to be competitive.

Not sure about this, Chicago's market has started to get better. I am not the best source for this, but I haven't heard about too much corporate erosion. The office market continues to get better, and a billion dollar project is happening at Wolf Point, with the tallest tower in the project being atleast 290 meters. I would say the skyscraper market is starting to get better at a quick pace...

Chicago always suffers from field office closures and job losses during downturns but the Illinois governor's corporate tax hike made the situation worse (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=7&sqi=2&ved=0CHUQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2011%2F09%2F19%2Fillinois-among-nations-wo_n_970264.html&ei=BDfMT6PRJqP42QW0jsnZCw&usg=AFQjCNEKPLjZ_WXOXBBIXFyet0wIWodKQw&sig2=zBsuE0cPyXuctUSuAPCAjA). Sears threatened to leave and even after getting inducements to stay in Chicagoland, still cut jobs at its headquarters. Aon is moving their executive suite to London and others are considering moving out of Illinois. It's a disaster. One reason why office vacancy rates in Chicago's CBD are relatively stable is the fact that so little new office inventory was added over the last 10 years. Indeed, aside from the Blue Cross Blue Shield tower and the office portion of Trump Chicago, most of the construction in downtown Chicago since 1992 has been residential.

Dimethyltryptamine

June 4th, 2012, 09:14 AM

New York

http://i.imgur.com/cwWyt.jpg
photographer unknown

http://i.imgur.com/NAoQ1.jpg
photographer unknown

Jay

June 4th, 2012, 09:14 AM

Chicago always suffers from field office closures and job losses during downturns but the Illinois governor's corporate tax hike made the situation worse. Sears threatened to leave and even after getting inducements to stay in Chicagoland, still cut jobs at its headquarters. Aon is moving their executive suite to London and others are considering moving out of Illinois. It's a disaster. One reason why office vacancy rates in Chicago's CBD are relatively stable is the fact that so little new office inventory was added over the last 10 years. Indeed, aside from the Blue Cross Blue Shield tower and the office portion of Trump Chicago, most of the construction in downtown Chicago since 1992 has been residential.

Yea Chicago hasn't seen such a hot decade, I really hope the future is brighter.

yankeesfan1000

June 4th, 2012, 01:50 PM

...Not sure about this, Chicago's market has started to get better. I am not the best source for this, but I haven't heard about too much corporate erosion. The office market continues to get better, and a billion dollar project is happening at Wolf Point, with the tallest tower in the project being atleast 290 meters. I would say the skyscraper market is starting to get better at a quick pace...

Desertpunk summed it up very well. But I thought I'd add that in regard to Wolf Point, two of those buildings are office buildings and won't get built without anchor tenants, so I'd pump the brakes a bit on Wolf Point. Plus, Hines is building River Point a stones throw from Wolf Point, which is a 1.2M sf office building there and that building is looking for tenants too. So until Wolf Point gets some commercial tenants, it's just a residential building. I'd like to be optimistic but I just haven't heard on here or SSP, of any companies looking for huge blocks of new space to drive commercial construction.

iloveclassicrock7

June 4th, 2012, 07:51 PM

Desertpunk summed it up very well. But I thought I'd add that in regard to Wolf Point, two of those buildings are office buildings and won't get built without anchor tenants, so I'd pump the brakes a bit on Wolf Point. Plus, Hines is building River Point a stones throw from Wolf Point, which is a 1.2M sf office building there and that building is looking for tenants too. So until Wolf Point gets some commercial tenants, it's just a residential building. I'd like to be optimistic but I just haven't heard on here or SSP, of any companies looking for huge blocks of new space to drive commercial construction.

I actually thought I heard about some big companies needing office space. I might ask Chicago George, he seems to be a very good source that can give realistic information for this type of thing. I did talk to him a bit not too long ago about general business/economy in Chicago on some economy thread, and although he is usually very pessimistic in general, he seemed very optimistic about Chicago's future as far as its economy and power on a worldwide scale. Considering that he really studies all the information, he is probably the best source on this site for that.

yankeesfan1000

June 5th, 2012, 01:47 AM

I looked through the Chicago economy thread and didn't see anything that would give me reason to believe Wolf Point, or River Point would really fill up. Feel like helping me out with some links maybe? Hines' River Point will be a good indicator. 1.2M sf of speculative office space, Hines will be really anxious to get some tenants in there, so if they struggle, I wouldn't expect Wolf Point to get going any time soon.

Thanks to NYGuy on SSP for digging these up. Just realized I can see my office in the first one!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7332268774_dc40250f29_h.jpghttp://www.flickr.com/photos/mike_l_photos/7332268774/sizes/h/in/photostream/

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8020/7334913066_0f9137a60d_h.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/07181953/7334913066/sizes/h/in/photostream/

isaidso

June 5th, 2012, 02:00 AM

Nice finds!

iloveclassicrock7

June 5th, 2012, 03:24 AM

HK999

June 7th, 2012, 01:09 PM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8017/7162274173_7f4e15382e_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162274173/)
Downtown Lightning 1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162274173/) by ccho (http://www.flickr.com/people/ccho/) on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7162273725_68118bfee9_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162273725/)
Downtown Manhattan HDR (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/7162273725/) by ccho (http://www.flickr.com/people/ccho/) on Flickr

CarltonHill

June 12th, 2012, 05:14 AM

for me it's Vancouver.. ;)

Alexenergy

June 13th, 2012, 02:18 PM

In my opinion NY became boring. So my top-list is
1.Toronto
2.Chicago
3.NY
4.LA
5.Vancouver

HK999

June 13th, 2012, 10:44 PM

In my opinion NY became boring. So my top-list is
1.Toronto
2.Chicago
3.NY
4.LA
5.Vancouver

Sure, NY is so boring. And all the new construction of supertalls... so boring.

At least you can talk and walk freely in NY, as as opposed to Moscow where you btw get jailed for looking different (all hail the Great Leader Putin!). I've seen you in other threads, go troll somewhere else.

Adrian12345Lugo

June 14th, 2012, 08:42 AM

Mexico City

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7369375000_41f99243c0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hotu_matua/7369375000/)
La ciudad infinita (5) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hotu_matua/7369375000/) by Hotu Matua (http://www.flickr.com/people/hotu_matua/), on Flickr

Alexenergy

June 14th, 2012, 09:27 AM

Sure, NY is so boring. And all the new construction of supertalls... so boring.

At least you can talk and walk freely in NY, as as opposed to Moscow where you btw get jailed for looking different (all hail the Great Leader Putin!). I've seen you in other threads, go troll somewhere else.
Sorry for offtopic but
It sunds as if you were in Moscow but I don't think so. Ha-ha so funny joke about Putin!!!! :lol: Yuo're great humorist! I'm not trolling, I'm expressing my own opinion and everyone must respect it! :)

yankeesfan1000

June 14th, 2012, 10:57 PM

^^

Of course you're entitled to your own opinion, I respectfully disagree, but what makes it boring to you? Just curious. Never heard anyone use 'boring' to describe NYs skyline.

I think when 1 WTC, 4 WTC, and One57 are done NY will pass Chicago in my book. Sorry these are so big...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6710907711_b1c96141a5_b.jpg
mattdonders (http://www.flickr.com/photos/calledthestig/6710907711/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6590882681_bf8ef51e6f_o.jpg
jschumacher (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jschumacher/6590882681/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5159/7179759706_ab3d5ce478_h.jpg
RBudhu (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/7179759706/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

iloveclassicrock7

June 14th, 2012, 11:58 PM

iloveclassicrock7

June 15th, 2012, 12:00 AM

CHICAGO

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2640/3764925866_f783c4078a_b.jpg - Stuck in Customs - Source http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuckincustoms/3764925866/sizes/l/in/photostream/

GenericUser

June 15th, 2012, 05:53 AM

Sure, NY is so boring. And all the new construction of supertalls... so boring.

At least you can talk and walk freely in NY, as as opposed to Moscow where you btw get jailed for looking different (all hail the Great Leader Putin!). I've seen you in other threads, go troll somewhere else.

Wow. It's pretty obvious that you're the troll. Seriously, if you can't respect other member's opinions, nobody will respect you. As for the Moscow comments; they are entirely untrue and extremely ignorant of you to say. That's the equivalent of calling Hong Kong a chicken coop! Moscow has the scale of LA and density that even surpasses NY. Even the skyline is developing rapidly.

How about you "go troll somewhere else?"

HK999

June 15th, 2012, 02:31 PM

Wow. It's pretty obvious that you're the troll. Seriously, if you can't respect other member's opinions, nobody will respect you. As for the Moscow comments; they are entirely untrue and extremely ignorant of you to say. That's the equivalent of calling Hong Kong a chicken coop! Moscow has the scale of LA and density that even surpasses NY. Even the skyline is developing rapidly.

How about you "go troll somewhere else?"

1. He said "NY is boring". Calling such a city boring is borderline.
2. Moscow's skyline is tiny compared to the BIG 5, there's no competition there.
3. I've been to Moscow a couple of times, attended the Lomonosov Moscow State University for a semester, I know exactly what's going on under the surface of that city. It's full of racism and prejudices. Don't even try to speak up, you may end up in jail pretty quickly. Hell, even in Beijing you are more free.
4. HK is a democratic paradise compared to Moscow. Also, we don't beat up gays (I'm not gay).
5. As this is OT, I'll stop here. Let's talk when you have visited Moccow.

isaidso

June 15th, 2012, 06:01 PM

HK999, your posts are always worth reading, but there's little to be gained by laying into someone who made negative remarks about some place you like. If he finds it boring, he finds it boring. This is all subjective and based on opinion so it's best to respect people's diverse opinions on what they consider to be the 'best'.

Scale isn't a determining factor for some people. It is for you and I, but that doesn't make us right and them wrong. If this thread was called 'Biggest North American Skyline' it would be another matter completely.

People can pick Pittsburgh as best if they want. Opinions like that are of no lesser value than yours or mine.

HK999

June 15th, 2012, 08:58 PM

GenericUser

June 15th, 2012, 09:24 PM

It is probably best to ignore comments like the one Alex posted. NY does have its share of boring buildings, but with all of the gorgeous art deco gems, and modern additions going up it is anything but boring.

This isn't a dictatorship. Most of us rightfully disagree with his opinion that NY is boring, but he's still entitled to it nonetheless.

1. He said "NY is boring". Calling such a city boring is borderline.
2. Moscow's skyline is tiny compared to the BIG 5, there's no competition there.
3. I've been to Moscow a couple of times, attended the Lomonosov Moscow State University for a semester, I know exactly what's going on under the surface of that city. It's full of racism and prejudices. Don't even try to speak up, you may end up in jail pretty quickly. Hell, even in Beijing you are more free.
4. HK is a democratic paradise compared to Moscow. Also, we don't beat up gays (I'm not gay).
5. As this is OT, I'll stop here. Let's talk when you have visited Moccow.

Please don't try to justify your ignorance. He never even mentioned Moscow. You saw that he happens to be from there and used it against him; that's pure prejudice. It's the equivalent of me judging your opinion based on my opinion of Hong Kong. WTF?

Yes, you are right. I was in a bad mood so I was tempted to go through a needless dispute.

Thank you...

^^

Of course you're entitled to your own opinion, I respectfully disagree, but what makes it boring to you? Just curious. Never heard anyone use 'boring' to describe NYs skyline.

I think when 1 WTC, 4 WTC, and One57 are done NY will pass Chicago in my book. Sorry these are so big...

Re: Those pics you posted. Absolutely amazing. Thank you!

italiano_pellicano

June 16th, 2012, 12:59 AM

for sure is new york

isaidso

June 16th, 2012, 03:04 AM

Yes, you are right. I was in a bad mood so I was tempted to go through a needless dispute.

Let's get back to great skyline shots! :)

Eduardo L. Ramirez

June 16th, 2012, 09:42 PM

New York

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2647/73807722705bc8c318e3b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/filmscribe/7380772270/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

1930s..

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7213/7375635592_00c9380595_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flskydvr/7375635592/)
EAL_Photos_0026 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flskydvr/7375635592/) by flskydvr (http://www.flickr.com/people/flskydvr/), on Flickr

San Francisco

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8167/7380465434_122a789474_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zaidbs/7380465434/)
San Francisco (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zaidbs/7380465434/) by zaid.bs (http://www.flickr.com/people/zaidbs/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7233/7378405292_521fe07371_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12664717@N03/7378405292/)
bay bridge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12664717@N03/7378405292/) by raasta (http://www.flickr.com/people/12664717@N03/), on Flickr

desertpunk

June 16th, 2012, 11:21 PM

T.O.

http://thefabweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/7253548802_398b32f091_b.jpg
http://thefabweb.com/44671/30-best-city-pictures-of-the-week-may-26th-to-june-02nd-2012/attachment/44702/

Dimethyltryptamine

June 16th, 2012, 11:30 PM

New York City,

old picture, but a good one nonetheless
http://www.airpano.ru/photogallery/images_1550/2_309896_Gaponyuk.jpg
http://www.airpano.ru/Photogallery-Photo.php?author=2&photo=57

iloveclassicrock7

June 16th, 2012, 11:58 PM

T.O.

http://thefabweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/7253548802_398b32f091_b.jpg
http://thefabweb.com/44671/30-best-city-pictures-of-the-week-may-26th-to-june-02nd-2012/attachment/44702/

I love the CN tower, but the height of it makes the rest of the skyline look so small. Even if Toronto ever gets a building in the 300m+ range, the CN tower sort of cancels it out.

For example, without the CN tower, a 400m building would top the skyline, and make it look incredible. But with the CN tower, a 400m building would just look like an nice addition.

It is kind of hard to explain what I am trying to say, but because of this I have a bit of a love hate relationship with the CN tower. Nevertheless, it still adds a lot to the skyline, and Toronto easily makes my top 10.

HK999

June 18th, 2012, 02:41 PM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7392152762_549b799972_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59994095@N05/7392152762/)
view from my office (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59994095@N05/7392152762/) by Daniela Klara R. (back briefly) (http://www.flickr.com/people/59994095@N05/) on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7102/7393302372_0f0758babe_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dibrova/7393302372/)
Midtown Manhattan panorama (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dibrova/7393302372/) by Dibrova (http://www.flickr.com/people/dibrova/) on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8004/7391091384_0fdfa25eb7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abstraktura/7391091384/)
Empire State Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abstraktura/7391091384/) by Julie Jira (http://www.flickr.com/people/abstraktura/) on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5449/7391062288_47f4b890bd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abstraktura/7391062288/)
. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abstraktura/7391062288/) by Julie Jira (http://www.flickr.com/people/abstraktura/) on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5155/7382412442_707ef50fdb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dandimar/7382412442/)
The Tip (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dandimar/7382412442/) by dandimar (http://www.flickr.com/people/dandimar/) on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8010/7382398888_dd6b2cce79_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dandimar/7382398888/)
Stand Tall (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dandimar/7382398888/) by dandimar (http://www.flickr.com/people/dandimar/) on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7244/7380432544_9c3e7af1c3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cawhitworth/7380432544/)
P1030582.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cawhitworth/7380432544/) by cawhitworth (http://www.flickr.com/people/cawhitworth/) on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5325/7386809410_cf239f61f5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/anuragyagnik/7386809410/)
42nd Street (http://www.flickr.com/photos/anuragyagnik/7386809410/) by anuragyagnik (http://www.flickr.com/people/anuragyagnik/) on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7234/7383865730_a034a088de_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mlofenfeld/7383865730/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mlofenfeld/7383865730/) by mlofenfeld (http://www.flickr.com/people/mlofenfeld/) on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7071/7391948664_fb6944157c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/7391948664/)
lower Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/7391948664/) by pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/) on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5159/7386144020_d372252a49_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brklynaloft/7386144020/)
the tower in blue - up close (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brklynaloft/7386144020/) by postopp1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/brklynaloft/) on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8162/7188405689_e0982a9d1b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/7188405689/)
Hotel on Rivington #1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/7188405689/) by Tony Shi. (http://www.flickr.com/people/tonyshi/) on Flickr

isaidso

June 18th, 2012, 08:48 PM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8004/7391091384_0fdfa25eb7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abstraktura/7391091384/)
Empire State Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abstraktura/7391091384/) by Julie Jira (http://www.flickr.com/people/abstraktura/) on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5449/7391062288_47f4b890bd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abstraktura/7391062288/)
. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abstraktura/7391062288/) by Julie Jira (http://www.flickr.com/people/abstraktura/) on Flickr

I love these ones. Shots half way up a skyscraper give a wonderful sense of verticality while still relating well to the ground. They usually make the most impressive city shots as you get a sense of both the skyline and the street. What Manhattan does better than any other is give one the sense of the never ending city. The straightness of the streets, and the canyon effect that seems to end in a blur makes one feel like you're in a city that just goes on forever.

I think Yonge Street in Toronto looking south from Bloor might end up with that same effect once it builds out. Bay would do the same, but it jogs east at Queen. University Avenue is bookended at College. Jarvis? That one could, but is bookended at Bloor.

iloveclassicrock7

June 18th, 2012, 10:30 PM

I love these ones. Shots half way up a skyscraper give a wonderful sense of verticality while still relating well to the ground. They usually make the most impressive city shots as you get a sense of both the skyline and the street. What Manhattan does better than any other is give one the sense of the never ending city. The straightness of the streets, and the canyon effect that seems to end in a blur makes one feel like you're in a city that just goes on forever.

I think Yonge Street in Toronto looking south from Bloor might end up with that same effect once it builds out. Bay would do the same, but it jogs east at Queen. University Avenue is bookended at College. Jarvis? That one could, but is bookended at Bloor.

Looks like you beat me to it. I was going to mention how great these two photos were too.

Sarcasticity

June 19th, 2012, 12:21 AM

GenericUser

June 19th, 2012, 05:52 AM

I love the CN tower, but the height of it makes the rest of the skyline look so small. Even if Toronto ever gets a building in the 300m+ range, the CN tower sort of cancels it out.

For example, without the CN tower, a 400m building would top the skyline, and make it look incredible. But with the CN tower, a 400m building would just look like an nice addition.

It is kind of hard to explain what I am trying to say, but because of this I have a bit of a love hate relationship with the CN tower. Nevertheless, it still adds a lot to the skyline, and Toronto easily makes my top 10.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Though, to be fair, a 400m building would actually be slightly higher than the big pod of the CN tower. The problem is that such a building would probably be built further back where the main cluster is with that bigger white building. This gives the illusion that the CN tower is even taller than it really is.

VitMos

June 19th, 2012, 09:23 AM

NYC
Chicago
Toronto
Vancouver
L.A.
Seattle
San Francisco
Philidelphia
Miami
Houston

HK999

June 19th, 2012, 07:11 PM

Rare angle...

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5441/7392403736_f9ecc6212e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmheidelberger/7392403736/)
Ring a Ring o' Roses Session Formation in Progress (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmheidelberger/7392403736/) by mheidelberger2000 (http://www.flickr.com/people/mmheidelberger/) on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7216/7383924674_a9b5856d49_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iduke/7383924674/)
Infinite vertical possibilities (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iduke/7383924674/) by i. duke (http://www.flickr.com/people/iduke/) on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8026/7383839328_a7cc2aa812_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iduke/7383839328/)
Empire State (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iduke/7383839328/) by i. duke (http://www.flickr.com/people/iduke/) on Flickr

iloveclassicrock7

June 19th, 2012, 07:14 PM

I couldn't have said it better myself. Though, to be fair, a 400m building would actually be slightly higher than the big pod of the CN tower. The problem is that such a building would probably be built further back where the main cluster is with that bigger white building. This gives the illusion that the CN tower is even taller than it really is.

That is true, but the rest of the tower is so wide that it adds visual height just about all the way up, and the final pod and highest floor on the CN tower is also at 447 meters. They really need a building to break that barrier, but I don't really see a 600m building being built in Toronto within the next 50 years, especially since they don't have 300m building yet.

@HK999 - The ESB is starting to look pretty old, and it looks like it also needs new windows.

isaidso

June 20th, 2012, 03:17 AM

Manhattan's grid pattern gives it its canyon-appearance. One advantage Manhattan has is that these canyons can be viewed almost at any direction.

No doubt Toronto will have the same canyons when all those u/c buildings get done. Toronto's grid pattern is similar to New York that's why it's usually a stand in for NYC in movies.

Toronto does have a typical north American grid, but many of the streets veer off after 10-15 blocks then go straight again. Others terminate after 10-15 blocks. The only downtown street that stays straight for 30+ blocks and doesn't terminate is Yonge.

Some of the east-west streets are straight for a long time, but our skyline is north-south so those endless city vistas aren't realized due to these streets being mostly low rise.

VitMos

June 20th, 2012, 12:29 PM

yankeesfan1000

June 21st, 2012, 01:12 AM

One of my favorite cities, and skylines in NA.

http://iflyattas.com/wphome/wp-content/gallery/misc/philly-skyline-aerial.jpg
http://iflyattas.com/wphome/?page_id=220

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/1-boathouse-row-philadelphia-pa-skyline-aerial-photograph-duncan-pearson.jpg
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/1-boathouse-row-philadelphia-pa-skyline-aerial-photograph-duncan-pearson.html

But few cities can compete with this...

http://timsklyarov.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/new-york-city-aerial-2.jpg
http://timsklyarov.com/new-york-city-aerial/#more-1351

http://timsklyarov.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/new-york-city-aerial-5.jpg
http://timsklyarov.com/new-york-city-aerial/#more-1351

http://timsklyarov.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/new-york-city-aerial-7.jpg
http://timsklyarov.com/new-york-city-aerial/#more-1351

One more...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-n8e3QoWB6fI/TvyMMINx8HI/AAAAAAAAPvY/-MGXZGgZu2Y/s1600/BrooklynNavyYard-2.jpg
http://hisblog.ryanandheidi.com/

isaidso

June 21st, 2012, 06:00 AM

But few cities can compete with this...

I don't think any can. It's #1.

iloveclassicrock7

June 21st, 2012, 06:21 AM

I don't think any can. It's #1.

It is #1 or #2 in my book. Before 1 wtc it only had 1 true 300m+ building, but after this building boom it will have tons of 300m buildings.

yankeesfan1000

June 21st, 2012, 03:46 PM

Eduardo L. Ramirez

June 21st, 2012, 05:29 PM

One of my favorite cities, and skylines in NA.

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/1-boathouse-row-philadelphia-pa-skyline-aerial-photograph-duncan-pearson.jpg
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/1-boathouse-row-philadelphia-pa-skyline-aerial-photograph-duncan-pearson.html

Great pic, Philly looks almost like NYC :cheers:

MelboyPete

June 22nd, 2012, 02:16 PM

NYC - in a league of its own followed by Chicago & Toronto (both amazing).

Sarcasticity

June 22nd, 2012, 10:54 PM

Philly's skyline, while one of my favorites, is pretty small for its size.

I didn't realize how built up New York is. It would be crazy if Manhattans skyline was contiguous from Midtown to Downtown

nebunul

June 22nd, 2012, 11:18 PM

...

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/usofa/chicago/3/DSC_3758x1000.jpg

isaidso

June 23rd, 2012, 06:28 AM

NYC - in a league of its own followed by Chicago & Toronto (both amazing).

That's spot on how I see it as well.

iloveclassicrock7

June 23rd, 2012, 08:43 AM

^^

By the end of the summer it'll probably be #1. 1, 4 WTC, and One57 topping out. Then we'll get to watch Hudson Yards South start in October, and 105 57th, among others hopefully, and certainly others I'm forgetting.

ilovecr7, I know you prefer Chicago, which is perfectly fine, you see yourself putting NY as #1 anytime soon? Just curious.

I actually go back and forth between having NY or CHI as 1. Chicago has an extremely long skyline, but needs more density and width, but I absolutely love Chicago's architecture, it has so much style to it. NYC doesn't have as long of a skyline as Chicago, but it easily makes up for it with the insane density and overall massiveness, and dominates in size in every other area. I love NYC's art deco buildings, but I prefer Chicago's architecture, and overall variation and mix of buildings. With that said, I go back and forth all the time. I am going to wait and see what 1 WTC looks like finished.

HK999

June 23rd, 2012, 04:31 PM

I want to see an updated version of this... :drool:

2004

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2545/4213668376_e7a127b3d6_o.jpg
Joes NYC

isaidso

June 25th, 2012, 07:09 AM

Hogtown

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq260/isaidso_photos/TorontofromEtobicoke2.jpg?t=1340609878

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq260/isaidso_photos/TorontofromEtobicoke.jpg?t=1340601211
Original by Bastian

http://bastardtype.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/blog121.jpg
Courtesy of Mike Crisolago

Eduardo L. Ramirez

June 25th, 2012, 11:11 PM

Chicago

>>

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7247/7442323072_2e00141cc0_h.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seungffany/7442323072/)
Chicago Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seungffany/7442323072/) by Seungffany (http://www.flickr.com/people/seungffany/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8011/7442244334_f16520ee07_h.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seungffany/7442244334/)
Nigtview of Chicago from the John Hancock Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seungffany/7442244334/) by Seungffany (http://www.flickr.com/people/seungffany/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7266/7442244868_50642917d3_h.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seungffany/7442244868/)
Millennium Park (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seungffany/7442244868/) von Seungffany (http://www.flickr.com/people/seungffany/) auf Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7135/7442243158_89c5e26f17_h.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seungffany/7442243158/)
The Wrigley building (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seungffany/7442243158/) by Seungffany (http://www.flickr.com/people/seungffany/), on Flickr

iloveclassicrock7

June 26th, 2012, 02:15 AM

^^

WOW

That first one is amazing, and the night lighting on Prudential and Trump never fail to blow me away.

Dralcoffin

June 27th, 2012, 10:28 PM

I want to see an updated version of this... :drool:

2004

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2545/4213668376_e7a127b3d6_o.jpg
Joes NYC

New York's two great strengths skyline-wise IMO are its sheer size and especially density, and the pre-World War II beauties no other city is close to matching.

VitMos

June 27th, 2012, 10:53 PM

New York's two great strengths skyline-wise IMO are its sheer size and especially density, and the pre-World War II beauties no other city is close to matching.

Moscow could be the strong applicant for New York if not the World War 2. High-rise construction stopped in the USSR when only began. it is one more occasion to hate Hitler

HK999

June 30th, 2012, 03:19 PM

NOT taken from the ESB... :D

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8023/7469678298_eba6b7a4ae_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7469678298/)
Gotham Nights (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7469678298/) by TIA International Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/tiascapes/) on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7413356466_e4036b46cc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7413356466/)
Lower Manhattan Majesty (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7413356466/) by TIA International Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/tiascapes/) on Flickr

GenericUser

July 1st, 2012, 10:19 PM

desertpunk

July 1st, 2012, 11:36 PM

From our own QuantumX:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5240/7441228988_eafbb8fda5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27357258@N03/7441228988/)
DSC_0245 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27357258@N03/7441228988/) by QuantumX (http://www.flickr.com/people/27357258@N03/), on Flickr

yankeesfan1000

July 1st, 2012, 11:46 PM

I love seeing pictures of NY as much as the next guy, but this is not just a NY skyline thread, it's a a North American one. Getting 4+ posts of NY in one page is overkill. We get it, you like NY, but seriously, HK999, you need to go to the NY forums. STOP SPAMMING NY. 1 post/page is more than enough!

Instead of calling someone out for contributing to this thread in a positive manner too much in your eyes, why don't YOU post pictures of a different city, and actually contribute to this thread in a positive manner instead of complaining about someone who actually contributes?

No one is forcing you to look through this thread. Grow up.

DZH22

July 2nd, 2012, 05:01 AM

Instead of calling someone out for contributing to this thread in a positive manner too much in your eyes, why don't YOU post pictures of a different city, and actually contribute to this thread in a positive manner instead of complaining about someone who actually contributes?

No one is forcing you to look through this thread. Grow up.

+1 I don't see you complaining about all the pics of Chicago on this page. Oh, cause you're from Chicago? Oh, ok then.

Those are some damn good pictures you complained about too. Damn good.

MDguy

July 2nd, 2012, 06:52 AM

Philadelphia

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5090/5357949269_52bb9039bb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/5357949269/)
For the Love of Philly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/5357949269/) by TIA International Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/tiascapes/), on Flickr

desertpunk

July 2nd, 2012, 08:15 AM

Seattle

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7362393154_a62c6c6c48_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahellmann/7362393154/)
USA Northwest June 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahellmann/7362393154/) by ahellmann (http://www.flickr.com/people/ahellmann/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7263/7451270108_318f9d2e48_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arminausejo/7451270108/)
Seattle at Night from Kerry Park, June 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arminausejo/7451270108/) by arminausejo (http://www.flickr.com/people/arminausejo/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7122/7451270598_8fe9d1052c_k_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arminausejo/

Sarcasticity

July 2nd, 2012, 03:09 PM

^^ Didn't realize how far the Space Needle was from the downtown core but Seattle is looking really good. I would also like to see Vancouver's skyline, I know the city gets compared as much as Chicago and Toronto (not to bring any CvC), just for comparison.

Marcanadian

July 2nd, 2012, 10:47 PM

Here's a bit of Vancouver:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8027/7437198778_8a158f9ac5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roguemd/7437198778/)
Who let these dogs out … (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roguemd/7437198778/) by RogueMD (http://www.flickr.com/people/roguemd/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/7191244676_d43a7f1b7a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_webhamster/7191244676/)
Vancouver Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_webhamster/7191244676/) by The Webhamster (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_webhamster/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/6867286280_5ea448c9d4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/6867286280/)
Vancouver Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/6867286280/) by Clayton Perry Photoworks (http://www.flickr.com/people/claytonperry/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez

July 3rd, 2012, 04:34 PM

Philadelphia

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7262/7491876220_ab8b7004ba_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7491876220/)
Center City, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7491876220/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8145/7491875958_da9cf2f0a2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7491875958/)
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7491875958/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8001/7491873914_48bd671301_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7491873914/)
City Hall, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7491873914/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7123/7491871984_ca899389e2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7491871984/)
Center City, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7491871984/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7131/7491866686_e8e2fbf93f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7491866686/)
Skyline of Philadelphia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7491866686/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

desertpunk

July 4th, 2012, 10:53 PM

Dallas

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8163/7478539302_3e80da8d6f_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjatune/7478539302/)
Dallas Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjatune/7478539302/) by the urban fabric (http://www.flickr.com/people/ninjatune/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5470/7242423788_e100986a41_k_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjatune/

Dralcoffin

July 5th, 2012, 06:39 AM

Dallas is probably my favorite Texas skyline. I know Houston has a larger skyline, but I like Dallas' compactness and find its buildings more attractive and interesting than Houston's overall.

Although Austin is getting a very impressive skyline recently from its economic and population explosion.

desertpunk

July 6th, 2012, 07:52 AM

Los Angeles

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/6963733117_535afe49a4_b_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw4pix/

desertpunk

July 6th, 2012, 08:31 AM

NYC

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5222/5678378537_326b455c4c_b_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw4pix/

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5270/5678378545_e9f312d3a3_b_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw4pix/

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5270/5678378547_65c02347b7_b_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw4pix/

koolio

July 6th, 2012, 11:52 PM

Central Park is awesome.

desertpunk

July 8th, 2012, 04:14 AM

Chicago

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8024/7452664458_e11627dda9_k_d.jpg
Beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/)

GenericUser

July 8th, 2012, 05:28 PM

Thanks for the breaking the traditional 20+ posts of NY per page precedent set by HK99, desertpunk. Beautiful Chicago pics :)

HK999

July 8th, 2012, 09:25 PM

Lol I come back after some time just to see this...

I love seeing pictures of NY as much as the next guy, but this is not just a NY skyline thread, it's a a North American one. Getting 4+ posts of NY in one page is overkill. We get it, you like NY, but seriously, HK999, you need to go to the NY forums. STOP SPAMMING NY. 1 post/page is more than enough!

?

Thanks for the breaking the traditional 20+ posts of NY per page precedent set by HK99, desertpunk. Beautiful Chicago pics :)

??

What happened to you man? Do you have a NY trauma or something? If so, I think you need professional help.

Btw prepare yourself for my 30+ pics post ... all from NY of course. :D Maybe I'll send you some NY pics per PM. You better get your medication ready.

desertpunk

July 8th, 2012, 11:12 PM

San Francisco

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5195/7430403326_60fa0e0f94_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/acmace/7430403326/)
san francisco at night (http://www.flickr.com/photos/acmace/7430403326/) by andrew c mace (http://www.flickr.com/people/acmace/), on Flickr

yankeesfan1000

July 8th, 2012, 11:28 PM

^^

That made me laugh HK. Good to have you back. I'll get some more NY started.

And Generic, if you're sick of NY, why don't you contribute instead of complaining like a child? It's not hard to do...

desert, great photo of San Fran. With Trans Bay it'll probably be my favorite CA skyline.

Anyway, love this view of Southern Midtown, really shows the wall that Midtown creates. Related's first Hudson Yards South Tower at 1,017 feet will across the street from the black/brown building with the slanted walls in the lower part of the photo. On the lower left you can also see a few cranes, that's where the new 7 Train station will open in 20 months or so, and then Extell's One Hudson Yards, and the Girasole will rise basically right on top of it.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/5449229762_cbddac9134_b.jpg
mavmeldrum (http://www.flickr.com/photos/11052246@N03/)

Eduardo L. Ramirez

July 8th, 2012, 11:40 PM

Los Angeles

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5071/7427502724_f3e159daf7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jongreco/7427502724/)
LA Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jongreco/7427502724/) by Jonathan Greco (http://www.flickr.com/people/jongreco/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5335/7429730414_e4c0f54a9f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/machu_picchu/7429730414/)
06232012-03 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/machu_picchu/7429730414/) by machu picchu (http://www.flickr.com/people/machu_picchu/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7104/7165404071_8ca1ba395c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshuagunther/7165404071/)
Los Angeles Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshuagunther/7165404071/) by Joshua Gunther (http://www.flickr.com/people/joshuagunther/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7046/6954874675_f0fde2179e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jondoeforty1/6954874675/)
Los Angeles (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jondoeforty1/6954874675/) by jondoeforty1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jondoeforty1/), on Flickr

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4127/5180043452_32e4d512ee_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rarefruitfan/5180043452/)
Smoggy Skyline - Los Angeles (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rarefruitfan/5180043452/) by rarefruitfan (http://www.flickr.com/people/rarefruitfan/), on Flickr

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8260/633727812353f687fed2b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/67554062@N05/6337278123/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

Sarcasticity

July 9th, 2012, 01:32 AM

That shot of Chicago is the best one yet

Dralcoffin

July 9th, 2012, 02:55 AM

That's how New Yorkers are: boastful, headstrong, and in love with their city, for good reason. It might be the greatest city to visit in the world. Never mind that the cost of living is ridiculous. New Yorkers pay a good three or four times as much for the exact same living space as in Chicago.

Chicago

This is a less-seen angle showing how impressive the South Loop has gotten.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7116/7531692332_bff0a1b565_b.jpg
Chicago from Navy Pier by dchorn25, Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26218509@N08/7531692332/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8293/7531222302_24aaf05ee9_h.jpg
Chicago cityscape and fireworks by levent eryilmaz, Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/levent_eryilmaz/7531222302/)

I can't wait to call this city home.

Eduardo L. Ramirez

July 9th, 2012, 03:16 AM

Really nice :okay:

A few more pics from Chicago:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6228/6235321250_34520cd17f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vexxed82/6235321250/)
(10.10.11)-Columbus_Day_Rooftop-LO-42 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vexxed82/6235321250/) by ChiPhotoGuy (http://www.flickr.com/people/vexxed82/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6226/6235319928_7f6c93beb8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vexxed82/6235319928/)
(10.10.11)-Columbus_Day_Rooftop-LO-32 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vexxed82/6235319928/) by ChiPhotoGuy (http://www.flickr.com/people/vexxed82/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6111/6302109333_3ccf307cd5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vexxed82/6302109333/)
(10.28.11)-Fulton River District Balcony-7 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vexxed82/6302109333/) by ChiPhotoGuy (http://www.flickr.com/people/vexxed82/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6108/6302635346_c9e3e89432_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vexxed82/6302635346/)
(10.28.11)-Fulton River District Balcony-5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vexxed82/6302635346/) by ChiPhotoGuy (http://www.flickr.com/people/vexxed82/), on Flickr

desertpunk

July 10th, 2012, 02:43 AM

http://gothamist.com/attachments/arts_jen/manhattanaerial0612LG.jpeg

Dralcoffin

July 10th, 2012, 03:45 AM

^^Amazing pic, but you might want to put the source.

I love how the American Museum of Natural History and the Met Museum of Art are facing off right across Central Park.

iloveclassicrock7

July 10th, 2012, 05:02 AM

That's how New Yorkers are: boastful, headstrong, and in love with their city, for good reason. It might be the greatest city to visit in the world. Never mind that the cost of living is ridiculous. New Yorkers pay a good three or four times as much for the exact same living space as in Chicago.

Chicago

This is a less-seen angle showing how impressive the South Loop has gotten.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7116/7531692332_bff0a1b565_b.jpg
Chicago from Navy Pier by dchorn25, Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26218509@N08/7531692332/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8293/7531222302_60ecbc9ab6_h.jpg
Chicago cityscape and fireworks by levent eryilmaz, Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/levent_eryilmaz/7531222302/)

I can't wait to call this city home.

The height of Chicago always impresses me. 1 Museum Park is a 230 meter tower, yet the massive height of the skyline makes it look small.

@ Desert Punk

WOW

@ Dralcoffin

Such a gorgeous picture, does the Navy Pier do fireworks on a monthly basis, or just on the 4th ?

desertpunk

July 10th, 2012, 06:48 PM

^^Amazing pic, but you might want to put the source.

I love how the American Museum of Natural History and the Met Museum of Art are facing off right across Central Park.

It's a repost from Gothamist.

isaidso

July 11th, 2012, 05:32 AM

Great NYC pic. Thanks for posting.

desertpunk

July 14th, 2012, 09:15 AM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7275/7540848162_65ec07bd68_h_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wesbran/

desertpunk

July 14th, 2012, 09:21 AM

Better post a couple of Chicago! ;)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8003/7557286380_3441fc24b4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/clarsonx/7557286380/)
Chicago River Corridor (http://www.flickr.com/photos/clarsonx/7557286380/) by clarsonx (http://www.flickr.com/people/clarsonx/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8003/7562442666_6a566211f4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/clarsonx/7562442666/)
River North View (http://www.flickr.com/photos/clarsonx/7562442666/) by clarsonx (http://www.flickr.com/people/clarsonx/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8429/7554103700_27e0319da5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyflood/7554103700/)
Day 11 - Chicago Symphony (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyflood/7554103700/) by WallyFlood (http://www.flickr.com/people/wallyflood/), on Flickr

desertpunk

July 14th, 2012, 09:24 AM

Montreal

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7134/7541194752_765c57a142_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcusandrew/7541194752/)
Montreal skyline seen from Hotel de la Montagne (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcusandrew/7541194752/) by Marcus Andrew (http://www.flickr.com/people/marcusandrew/), on Flickr

desertpunk

July 15th, 2012, 08:43 AM

San Francisco

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7119/6906278832_125405ba03_o_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jssiler/

Eduardo L. Ramirez

July 19th, 2012, 05:41 PM

Chicago

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8142/7600530884_8ec9f87cf3_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rnx070/7600530884/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Toronto

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5448/7405270698_1646e2df3c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25196404@N05/7405270698/)
Downtown Toronto (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25196404@N05/7405270698/) by H4vok_13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/25196404@N05/), on Flickr

Philadelphia

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8004/7174583677_4fcc2274b3_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/a-hyon/7174583677/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Eduardo L. Ramirez

July 25th, 2012, 10:35 PM

N e w Y o r k

>>
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8158/7644459260_34e29099a4_h.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19106782@N00/7644459260/sizes/h/in/photostream/

>>
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1268/7643934834f20933a677h.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/7643934834/)
ESB MegaPano #3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/7643934834/) by Tony Shi. (http://www.flickr.com/people/tonyshi/), on Flickr
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

Eduardo L. Ramirez

July 28th, 2012, 01:00 AM

Will New York ever become as impressive again?!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7259/7651718008_2071baccbc_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/76288733@N07/7651718008/sizes/l/in/photostream/

yankeesfan1000

July 28th, 2012, 04:08 AM

^^

The most dominating, imposing, and commanding skyscrapers I have personally ever seen. Those behemoths will probably never be matched anywhere in the world for sheer intimidation factor. Truly breathtaking in their sheer scale.

MDguy

July 28th, 2012, 05:09 AM

I'd agree. I would say that no, New York can never again achieve a skyline that imposing again. It will regain a lot of beauty once the new WTC is back, but it will never again have that dominating personality.

isaidso

July 28th, 2012, 09:33 AM

Never say never. What's to stop any city with enough office demand from building something like that in the future? 'Never' is a very long time.

MDguy

July 29th, 2012, 02:49 AM

True. Should say not in the near future.

Here's a photo or two of Charlotte

http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/charlotte/charlotte_skyline_73_7358.jpg
http://www.skylinescenes.com/charlotte-nc/skyline-of-charlotte-nc_v34323.html

http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/charlotte/charlotte_skyline_55_9917.jpg
http://www.skylinescenes.com/charlotte-nc/bank-of-america-corporate-center-charlotte-nc_v34306.html, by Bill Cobb

Eduardo L. Ramirez

July 29th, 2012, 10:58 PM

V a n c o u v e r

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8285/7663033734_dda60edee4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76437796@N03/7663033734/)
Skyline Full (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76437796@N03/7663033734/) by Muffin Mitts (http://www.flickr.com/people/76437796@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8168/7476816258_db3c7c1a18_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvin-mynarek/7476816258/)
foggy Vancouver (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvin-mynarek/7476816258/) by Mynarek_Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/marvin-mynarek/), on Flickr

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/3874/22826062.jpg
by Rhino http://www.******************/search?q=Vancouver&index=fotos&options=YToxOntzOjU6InN0YXJ0IjtpOjA7fQ&pos=3&display=22826062
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8428/7662918284_f0ceb191b1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76437796@N03/7662918284/)
"Lipstick" Building (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76437796@N03/7662918284/) by Muffin Mitts (http://www.flickr.com/people/76437796@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7663020028_b2db5520d4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76437796@N03/7663020028/)
Skyline Focus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76437796@N03/7663020028/) by Muffin Mitts (http://www.flickr.com/people/76437796@N03/), on Flickr

desertpunk

July 30th, 2012, 09:20 AM

nyc

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8141/7654275370_0f8fbdef9a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7654275370/)
Reaching the Top (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7654275370/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7654273722_78f37a9a9e_k_d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7654273722/)
Towers of Midtown (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/7654273722/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr

desertpunk

July 30th, 2012, 12:37 PM

Pittsburgh

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7246/7417449842_dfc5589463_h_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dewebpro/

Eduardo L. Ramirez

July 31st, 2012, 12:40 AM

Toronto

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7131/7674493166_79398e37ea_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lindophotos/7674493166/)
Toronto Skyline from Queen St. W (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lindophotos/7674493166/) by Rich Sowa (http://www.flickr.com/people/lindophotos/), on Flickr

Anchorage (background)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7263/7674327322_7599ec214d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72213316@N00/7674327322/)
Eden makes a great addition to the Anchorage skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72213316@N00/7674327322/) by Alaskan Dude (http://www.flickr.com/people/72213316@N00/), on Flickr

Manila-X

July 31st, 2012, 09:21 AM

Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh has a nice location for a skyline. It should stay as it is, no need for supertalls.

desertpunk

August 2nd, 2012, 08:21 AM

Seattle

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/7096825093_d3d9323c3f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fresnatic/7096825093/)
Seattle Spring Afternoon (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fresnatic/7096825093/) by Fresnatic (http://www.flickr.com/people/fresnatic/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/6958040972_de2d559290_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fresnatic/6958040972/)
Happy 50th Anniversary Space Needle (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fresnatic/6958040972/) by Fresnatic (http://www.flickr.com/people/fresnatic/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5197/7004379098_5f2542b94d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fresnatic/7004379098/)
Seattle Super Moon 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fresnatic/7004379098/) by Fresnatic (http://www.flickr.com/people/fresnatic/), on Flickr

desertpunk

August 3rd, 2012, 11:14 AM

Dallas

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5114/7382011416_e13b614c17_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigredwill/7382011416/)
_MG_2395 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigredwill/7382011416/) by William Christie (http://www.flickr.com/people/bigredwill/), on Flickr

desertpunk

August 3rd, 2012, 12:18 PM

Chicago

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/7165179951_09c57a1150_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/changoblanco3/7165179951/)
8 E 9th (30) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/changoblanco3/7165179951/) by Sky Ninja (http://www.flickr.com/people/changoblanco3/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8023/7445260626_98dbbfc167_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/changoblanco3/7445260626/)
Over the Edge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/changoblanco3/7445260626/) by Sky Ninja (http://www.flickr.com/people/changoblanco3/), on Flickr

isaidso

August 3rd, 2012, 11:43 PM

Is that Aqua in the first photo?

Eduardo L. Ramirez

August 4th, 2012, 01:28 AM

:yes:

San Francisco

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8149/7701088524_cea56b3915_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sir_psycho_sexy/7701088524/)
"It is a good thing the early settlers landed on the East Coast; if they’d landed in San Francisco first, the rest of the country would still be uninhabited" (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sir_psycho_sexy/7701088524/) by Juan Zara (http://www.flickr.com/people/sir_psycho_sexy/), on Flickr

Los Angeles

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8011/7701204770_48874f0b1f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/icedog/7701204770/)
Skyline from the air (http://www.flickr.com/photos/icedog/7701204770/) by IceDogDude (http://www.flickr.com/people/icedog/), on Flickr

Austin

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8430/7701239306_b22909c65a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sixtea-9/7701239306/)
Sky line (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sixtea-9/7701239306/) by 5hake (http://www.flickr.com/people/sixtea-9/), on Flickr

Houston

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8425/7697289874_6e1b7572c9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ah7925/7697289874/)
IMG_0025 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ah7925/7697289874/) by ah7925 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ah7925/), on Flickr

MDguy

August 4th, 2012, 03:16 AM

desertpunk

August 4th, 2012, 04:05 AM

Is that Aqua in the first photo?

Yes, Aqua is the tower immediately to the right of the Aon Tower.

desertpunk

August 4th, 2012, 04:19 AM

Toronto

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8014/7632668754_71b9aa68fd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/optimus/7632668754/)
Buzzing the Tower! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/optimus/7632668754/) by Optimus Prime (http://www.flickr.com/people/optimus/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8020/7660449204_7e7a410f7c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/optimus/7660449204/)
Differences (http://www.flickr.com/photos/optimus/7660449204/) by Optimus Prime (http://www.flickr.com/people/optimus/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7236/7155867246_fa04db5bbd_h_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/allanstephen/

.franco

August 9th, 2012, 01:46 AM

NYC

Eduardo L. Ramirez

August 10th, 2012, 12:12 AM

Toronto

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8285/7743479216_a3be96f205_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikspix/7743479216/)
Toronto Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikspix/7743479216/) by nikatknight (http://www.flickr.com/people/nikspix/), on Flickr

Chicago

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8294/7747107634_210d762c3e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/idsdata/7747107634/)
Sailboat sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/idsdata/7747107634/) by idsdata (http://www.flickr.com/people/idsdata/), on Flickr

Alexenergy

August 10th, 2012, 07:36 PM

Chicago is just perfect!

isaidso

August 14th, 2012, 07:36 AM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8296/7777848088_30c82e4f40_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21lau_z/7777848088/)
mid level beauty. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21lau_z/7777848088/) by Proletar1at (http://www.flickr.com/people/21lau_z/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez

August 16th, 2012, 01:29 AM

Las Vegas

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8291/7784009554_1da83a3c87_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ilya02/7784009554/)
The Strip, Las Vegas (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ilya02/7784009554/) by chylle (http://www.flickr.com/people/ilya02/), on Flickr

Denver

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8307/7784072862_d5d3c29bf5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/centurahealthathome/7784072862/)
Denver Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/centurahealthathome/7784072862/) by Centura Health at Home (http://www.flickr.com/people/centurahealthathome/), on Flickr

Nouvellecosse

August 17th, 2012, 12:56 AM

Houston has a great skyline but there is something about it that is off-putting for me. Maybe it's how the skyline appears abrupt and the downtown area doesn't seamlessly border neighborhoods and such.I know what you mean. I think my problem with it is that it looks as if the whole skyline was built the same year by the same architecture firm since all the most visible buildings are large late 80s early 90s pomo office towers.

It's definitely impressive in size and density though.

Eduardo L. Ramirez

August 17th, 2012, 03:30 AM

Panama City

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2615/77984865647bd1a7ee37b.jpg
by MartinOcando (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocandophotography/), on Flickr
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/9522/7798485444be6f373e58b.jpg
by MartinOcando (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocandophotography/), on Flickr
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

isaidso

August 17th, 2012, 02:24 PM

The quality of buildings in Panama City isn't all that good, but it's hard to deny that it's got a huge skyline. I might have to put it in my top 10 soon.

Xtreminal

August 18th, 2012, 04:50 AM

Minneapolis - Hands down!!!

Eduardo L. Ramirez

August 20th, 2012, 01:59 AM

Atlanta

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8288/7818270318_87024e5ace_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68084649@N07/7818270318/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7249/7818191464_382f312cb7_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68084649@N07/7818191464/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Calgary

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8301/7817561282_e0e4689623_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevincappis/7817561282/)
Dynamic Calgary (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevincappis/7817561282/) by Surrealplaces (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevincappis/), on Flickr

San Francisco

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8443/7812021662_f9d3ddb7b5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/phongsta/7812021662/)
Financial District from Potrero Hill 002 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/phongsta/7812021662/) by phongsta (http://www.flickr.com/people/phongsta/), on Flickr

Chicago

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8308/7809783648_22a201309c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51123576@N00/7809783648/)
Skyline image (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51123576@N00/7809783648/) by Michael Eslinger (http://www.flickr.com/people/51123576@N00/), on Flickr

New York

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8306/7808843760_f8cfb6d7e7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jameswhorriskey/7808843760/)
The Big Apple ! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jameswhorriskey/7808843760/) by James Whorriskey (Delbert Jackson) (http://www.flickr.com/people/jameswhorriskey/), on Flickr

Core Rising

August 20th, 2012, 12:01 PM

Love the Atlanta Sodium-vapor glow.

terrinhiggs14

August 21st, 2012, 07:48 PM

chicago skyline to me is the most organized
http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p557/terrinhiggs14/87ae98d4.jpg

Yellow Fever

August 22nd, 2012, 07:40 AM

Vancouver

photo by me

http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/Hongkongese/downtown%202/IMG_3406.jpg

OmarUlloa94

August 27th, 2012, 01:50 AM

Mexico City http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/85902004@N06/7868348334/lightbox/

megacity30

August 29th, 2012, 03:17 AM

Panama City

Is Panama City really a North American skyline?!!

Panama is the southernmost country in Central America...

isaidso

August 29th, 2012, 08:54 AM

Is Panama City really a North American skyline?!!

Panama is the southernmost country in Central America...

Yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America

megacity30

August 29th, 2012, 12:00 PM

Yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America

Yes, you're absolutely correct; well, I sure learnt something new today. :)
Thanks isaidso.

Eduardo L. Ramirez

August 31st, 2012, 11:57 AM

Vancouver

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8304/7882589326_34be1fe11b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michellerlee/7882589326/)
Vancouver skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michellerlee/7882589326/) by michellerlee (http://www.flickr.com/people/michellerlee/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez

September 1st, 2012, 02:07 PM

New York

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8444/7903888906_7666dc3e9d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmack/7903888906/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmack/7903888906/) by drop photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/scottmack/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8449/7903936516_3a247d5569_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmack/7903936516/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmack/7903936516/) by drop photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/scottmack/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8041/7904371350_093fecc9cf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmack/7904371350/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmack/7904371350/) by drop photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/scottmack/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez

September 5th, 2012, 01:38 AM

Calgary

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8319/7933219624_a95a55b9ea_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52666204@N02/7933219624/)
Sunny Cityscape (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52666204@N02/7933219624/) by Magiffin (http://www.flickr.com/people/52666204@N02/), on Flickr

Sarcasticity

September 5th, 2012, 07:55 AM

Calgary has a really nice compact skyline similar to Denver

isaidso

September 6th, 2012, 08:51 AM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8298/7934503308_ca70b908c5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/optiklenz13/7934503308/)
Moonscape (http://www.flickr.com/photos/optiklenz13/7934503308/) by optiklenz13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/optiklenz13/), on Flickr

desertpunk

September 6th, 2012, 09:13 AM

Calgary has a really nice compact skyline similar to Denver

It surpassed Denver's a while ago. Denver is going gangbusters right now but it's all midrise density. ;)

Avemano

September 6th, 2012, 07:38 PM

They all look the same to my mind ...

But Chicago is beautiful due to the Willis Tower.
And NYC, of course.
:cheers:

Eduardo L. Ramirez

September 7th, 2012, 12:05 AM

C h i c a g o

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8459/7941487618_328c587f67_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahmed_r/7941487618/)
Downtown Chitown (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahmed_r/7941487618/) by a300zx4pak (http://www.flickr.com/people/ahmed_r/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8451/7940830634_e39ca5ccb6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mbaron/7940830634/)
Sunset over Chicago (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mbaron/7940830634/) by mbaron85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/mbaron/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8038/7945625788_fd40a1cfdc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/82860866@N02/7945625788/)
Tilted Sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/82860866@N02/7945625788/) by kyp1975 (http://www.flickr.com/people/82860866@N02/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8424/7739602132_412f66980b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pcurtner/7739602132/)
skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pcurtner/7739602132/) by pcurtner (http://www.flickr.com/people/pcurtner/), on Flickr

Sarcasticity

September 8th, 2012, 12:29 AM

It surpassed Denver's a while ago. Denver is going gangbusters right now but it's all midrise density. ;)

Similar in the sense they're both compact and have a mountain backdrop, but yes, Calgary has the better skyline imo

idontknowyoudoi

September 8th, 2012, 07:30 AM

Another good skyline is Pittsburgh, its small but unique
http://prints.metroscenes.com/cdn/pub/ys2ql6zt0ks8/0/null/mk/5icg0htujsdvx-xogmx_/s3/v24/p548960685-3.jpg?ts=5&tk=oZ27vcL3yf1PHtJ8c-a0ypDpoLthy2jJTpsgRtXyBF4=http://prints.metroscenes.com/cdn/pub/ys2ql6zt0ks8/0/null/mk/x7fnffuhgjgber8kndel/s1/v22/p384573706-3.jpg?ts=5&tk=TcbBBEw-bORAMRSupgIEwdsKYlJE2ZK2XH4cifAo3IQ=http://prints.metroscenes.com/cdn/pub/ys2ql6zt0ks8/0/null/mk/bwokd4y7dy5ihg7tkscw/s3/v26/p730036789-3.jpg?ts=5&tk=UH2xvQ2WNdRGNJ2ixfsIsyv9nXUkNdP31IjAQwJv-vw=http://prints.metroscenes.com/cdn/pub/ys2ql6zt0ks8/0/null/mk/8wxnqdgizv1vwfhgjzhh/s2/v61/p1101407690-3.jpg?ts=&tk=y5sd9R8q0Fgb1XuGRkKju-02WMzEByvgzwRwdEBIkhs=http://prints.metroscenes.com/cdn/pub/ys2ql6zt0ks8/0/null/mk/wpdjl1hk3ijv_9e5orek/s10/v16/p151725243-3.jpg?ts=3&tk=6Ls0Pdt4LRj4sR-tAqXMCF934LUAguUSBVIwlXfQXd0=http://prints.metroscenes.com/cdn/pub/ys2ql6zt0ks8/0/null/mk/lidm_au-5v8ml3xz9yqv/s10/v17/p131710785-3.jpg?ts=3&tk=mh7Dn5RDQpsKgZ3_mEbfHvtlN02SqftOleI4qc_BgQM=http://prints.metroscenes.com/cdn/pub/ys2ql6zt0ks8/0/null/mk/dwp7uriqcvueveceo5gp/s3/v7/p661434130-3.jpg?ts=3&tk=Veij5rAfLFq6Ko12IW-TO7tF3gA0ljLW4R0DRLaQ5Gc=

desertpunk

September 8th, 2012, 11:18 AM

Toronto

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8283/7842208178_e697fcc5f0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/7842208178/)
Toronto Pano (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/7842208178/) by Tony Shi. (http://www.flickr.com/people/tonyshi/), on Flickr

desertpunk

September 9th, 2012, 10:38 AM

Philly

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8298/7838241434_4471c8805e_h_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acouture/

desertpunk

September 9th, 2012, 11:32 AM

Atlanta

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7257/7866996176_6d34178157_h_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wesleyarnold/

Eduardo L. Ramirez

September 9th, 2012, 11:07 PM

Boston

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7119/7759502974_1a9dc7933e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7759502974/)
Downtown Boston, Massachusetts Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7759502974/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8423/7759502802_faee504dce_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7759502802/)
Downtown Boston, Massachusetts Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7759502802/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8430/7759502464_4a7a9b9cfe_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7759502464/)
Downtown Boston, Massachusetts Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49394874@N08/7759502464/) by SkylineScenes (http://www.flickr.com/people/49394874@N08/), on Flickr

desertpunk

September 12th, 2012, 04:08 AM

Vancouver

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8287/7799469612_645f0dc815_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7799469612/)
DupliCity (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7799469612/) by TIA International Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/tiascapes/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8431/7771093100_7dd9d89a0f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7771093100/)
The World’s Most Livable City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/7771093100/) by TIA International Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/tiascapes/), on Flickr

GenericUser

September 12th, 2012, 09:15 AM

Toronto's looking impressive. Even from those lake shots that don't show ~75% of the skyline...

Eduardo L. Ramirez

September 12th, 2012, 06:16 PM

New York

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8436/7979674552_507fee6b2b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrwetzel/7979674552/)
_WRW6857.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrwetzel/7979674552/) by Bill Wetzel (http://www.flickr.com/people/wrwetzel/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8440/7979753028_1faed5eb07_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markhanrahan/7979753028/)
top of the rock observation deck (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markhanrahan/7979753028/) by gemini spy (http://www.flickr.com/people/markhanrahan/), on Flickr

Chicago

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8175/7979259155_4c0062270a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kassenpatient/7979259155/)
Chicago Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kassenpatient/7979259155/) by kassenpatient (http://www.flickr.com/people/kassenpatient/), on Flickr

isaidso

September 12th, 2012, 10:55 PM

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq260/isaidso_photos/TorontofromEtobicoke2.jpg?t=1340609878

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7240/7192827636_9cf245c85b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mpmarkus/7192827636/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mpmarkus/7192827636/) by mpmark (http://www.flickr.com/people/mpmarkus/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6989701265_08bd73e3af_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6989701265/)
Now I Know the Difference from Gold and Brass (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6989701265/) by Neil Ta | I am Bidong (http://www.flickr.com/people/neilta/), on Flickr

Eduardo L. Ramirez

September 13th, 2012, 01:39 AM

Montreal

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8296/7980644911_98a64a40c4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paul_photos/7980644911/)
Founding, Montreal Canada (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paul_photos/7980644911/) by Boston Runner (http://www.flickr.com/people/paul_photos/), on Flickr

Dallas

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8037/7980829749_4cce279f79_b.jpg
by grindkingmedia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/grindkingmedia/7980829749/sizes/l/in/photostream/), on Flickr

isaidso

September 13th, 2012, 01:58 AM

That green lighting scheme on that office building is distracting. Either add more lights to other buildings, or get rid of the green.

desertpunk

September 13th, 2012, 06:14 AM

^^
That tower was supposed to have a twin. A new supertall is on the drawing boards so hopefully it won't be alone much longer...

Toronto's looking impressive. Even from those lake shots that don't show ~75% of the skyline...

It kills me that I couldn't post the original size of that skyline pic. :yes:

isaidso

September 13th, 2012, 10:00 PM

I see, Dallas needs some bulking up. I like the 'microphone'.

Eduardo L. Ramirez

September 15th, 2012, 01:51 AM

Miami

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5619/7986006232b68d9bc718b.jpg
by Michael Pancier Photography (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pancier/7986006232/sizes/l/in/photostream/), on Flickr
Uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

Philadelphia

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8173/7984539169_7b73853e56_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hazboy/7984539169/)
The view of Center City Philadelphia from Citizens Bank Park (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hazboy/7984539169/) by Hazboy (http://www.flickr.com/people/hazboy/), on Flickr

isaidso

September 15th, 2012, 02:53 AM

Toronto's looking impressive. Even from those lake shots that don't show ~75% of the skyline...

I've always found that these 2 photos in sequence illustrate the depth of the Toronto skyline inland:

An old one (Trump, Shangri-La, L Tower, AURA missing) looking south towards the CBD:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7109/7422012062_17dd94bdbd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nahshonimmanuel/7422012062/)
YYZ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nahshonimmanuel/7422012062/) by Nahshon Immanuel (http://www.flickr.com/people/nahshonimmanuel/), on Flickr

.....and the skyline going the other way towards Yorkville and beyond:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/6976465825_0f044944bc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6976465825/)
The New NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/6976465825/) by Neil Ta | I am Bidong (http://www.flickr.com/people/neilta/), on Flickr

iloveclassicrock7

September 15th, 2012, 09:44 PM

^^
That tower was supposed to have a twin. A new supertall is on the drawing boards so hopefully it won't be alone much longer...

It kills me that I couldn't post the original size of that skyline pic. :yes:

what supertall ?

Yellow Fever

September 17th, 2012, 08:13 AM

Toronto really looks like a mini NY on the last pic.

Vancouver
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/Hongkongese/downtown%202/IMG_6400.jpg

Yellow Fever

September 17th, 2012, 10:11 PM

not the best but its nice nonetheless.

San Diego
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8450/7906792476_78800e21e8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/halkaphoto/7906792476/)
Blue Moon - August 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/halkaphoto/7906792476/) by Waldemar Halka (http://www.flickr.com/people/halkaphoto/), on Flickr

isaidso

September 18th, 2012, 12:31 AM

Toronto really looks like a mini NY on the last pic.

Toronto is certainly going vertical in a hurry. When/if the latest crop of proposals get built, things will start getting interesting. We might be looking at 18,000 people/sq km in the downtown core by 2016. That's not that far off from Manhattan's 27,152 people/sq km. The big difference is that the footprint of Manhattan is much larger than that of downtown Toronto: about 4 times the size*.

* Manhattan is 59 sq km; it just goes on and on and on.

2006 population for downtown Toronto
St. Jamestown (14,666 people on 0.23 sq km)
Bay Street Corridor (4,786 people on 0.11 sq km)
Church & Wellesley (13,397 people on 0.55 sq km)
Garden District (8,240 people on 0.52 sq km)
Alexandra Park (4,355 people on 0.32 sq km)
Yorkville (6.045 people on 0.56 sq km)
Grange Park (9,007 people on 0.84 sq km)
Kensington Market (3,740 people on 0.36 sq km)
Harbourfront/City Place (14,368 people on 1.87 sq km)
Discovery District (4,619 people on 0.66 sq km)
Fashion District (4,642 people on 0.98 sq km)
Financial District (548 people on 0.47 sq km)

The Annex (15,602 people on 1.47 sq km)
Cabbagetown (11,120 people on 1.4 sq km)
Corktown (4,484 people on 0.67 sq km)
Distillery District (4,619 people on 1.33 sq km)
Harbord Village (5,906 people on 0.64 sq km)
Regent Park (10,387 people on 0.64 sq km)

St. Lawrence (NO DATA)
Entertainment District (NO DATA)
East Bayfront (NO DATA)
Moss Park (NO DATA)

TOTAL: 139,983 people on 13.62 square km, or 10,278 people/sq km
The downtown population supposedly increased by about 32% between 2006 and 2011 which would suggest a population of about 184,778 or 13,567 people/sq km in 2011. A similar population jump is expected between 2011 and 2016.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_neighbourhoods_in_Toronto#Downtown_Core_.28Central.29

Xusein

September 18th, 2012, 03:16 AM

I've been in Boston a bit lately, here are some pics I made of the skyline and various buildings.

http://i49.tinypic.com/212fmgp.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/30c4t4p.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/9icits.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/jj4ryv.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/xoinoy.jpg

Boston has a great skyline and has one of the best downtowns in the US but I am hesitant to put it in my top 10 skylines because its main skyline lacks a defining building. The John Hancock is a bit removed from the main cluster as it is over a mile away (and separated by the Common and Garden).

isaidso

September 18th, 2012, 06:40 AM

Is that Boston Common?

DZH22

September 18th, 2012, 08:48 PM

Is that Boston Common?

The first pic is from the public gardens, the second and 3rd pics are from the common. The 2 parks are literally right next to each other.

The JHT is actually closer than a mile to the near edge of the financial district skyline. To the 2 glass towers in the first pic above it's only about 3/4 of a mile.

Here are a couple more Boston from this summer

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1BostonVacations/IMG_0045.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1BostonVacations/IMG_0052.jpg

This next one has part of Cambridge in the foreground. Cambridge currently has a ton of construction in the 100'-260' range.

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1BostonVacations/IMG_0237.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1BostonVacations/IMG_0027.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1BostonVacations/IMG_0620.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1BostonVacations/IMG_0915.jpg

Lots of construction going on right now. 2 600 footers are poised to start within the next 6 months! I think our skyline will be getting a lot more looks once those are added!

Yellow Fever

September 18th, 2012, 09:07 PM

^^ any rendering on those 2600 ft towers?

DZH22

September 18th, 2012, 09:24 PM

^^^ The threads are here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1520948 625' check post 12 for some links to detailed renders

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/Random/original.jpg

and here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=597798 should say 626'

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/Random/copley-place__1311017604_4009.jpg

Both towers have been approved, and are both expected to start construction within 6 months (1st one already has the hole dug too).

koolio

September 18th, 2012, 09:34 PM

DZH22

September 18th, 2012, 09:37 PM

Boston is very nice indeed. In my opinion, it's skyline is comparable but less impressive than that of Montreal but at street level, it fares much better. There is a sort of vibrancy and sense of hustle and bustle that I find is lacking on most Montreal streets.

Quantitatively, Boston beats Montreal with 16 500'+ towers to 7 for Montreal, including Montreal's Olympic Tower (and 18 over 150 meters vs 8), topping at 790' and 750' (vs 673' for Montreal), and also having about 5 more towers over 400'. I think they are pretty similar from street level.

isaidso

September 19th, 2012, 07:16 AM

^^ Thanks for the run down. I'm honestly shocked. Boston's skyline always looks so puny to me, while Montreal's (while not massive) quite substantial. I would have bet money that Montreal had far larger buildings than Boston, but the opposite is true.

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/Random/copley-place__1311017604_4009.jpg

Boston looks far better in this pic than any I've seen before it.

DZH22

September 19th, 2012, 01:26 PM

^^ Thanks for the run down. I'm honestly shocked. Boston's skyline always looks so puny to me, while Montreal's (while not massive) quite substantial. I would have bet money that Montreal had far larger buildings than Boston, but the opposite is true.

Boston looks far better in this pic than any I've seen before it.

Have you seen Boston in real life, or are you always just going off pictures?

Montreal's skyline is dominated by 5 buildings between 614'-673'. They stand out that much more since the rest of the skyline is mostly in the 400' range. Boston's financial district (the plateau) is dominated by 5 buildings between 590'-614', but also contains 13 500'+ overall in the cluster, so slightly shorter at the top and it's that much harder for these towers to stand out. (illustrated here)

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1AprilMayBoston2012/IMG_8140.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1AprilMayBoston2012/IMG_8501.jpg

However, Boston is essentially 2 skylines right next to each other, (that have been steadily growing toward each other) and has the 790' and 750' standing tall in the Back Bay. Unlike in pictures, when you are there in real life you can see how large it really is.

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1AprilMayBoston2012/IMG_8133.jpg

It probably looks better in that pic because of the render that doesn't exist yet. Here is that same view from April/May.

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/1AprilMayBoston2012/IMG_8040.jpg

And now I really need to stop flooding this page with Boston and do some studying! :nuts: