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rapideye95
April 4th, 2005, 10:51 AM
This is my first time starting a thread...so plz don't hate....

The reason why i started this is becasue we hear ENOUGH about toronto high-rises...but there is LOTS going on in mississauga now with condos and proposals and such...so if anyone wants to throw down some info...that would be greatly apreciated....I'm interested in those new parkside village condos that are in proposal right now...i've been looking for some pics but no luck...I'm also looking for some absolute condo pics aswell with sum info..i've been trying to look...but i'm out of luck...It's a worthy topic, because lots is going like i said b4. Even clarkson has a few high-rise proposals now...so it's getting real heavy now with construction...TY for posting... :runaway:

CANAUS
April 4th, 2005, 11:51 AM
I would have no clue of Missisauga - never been there but if its like Toronto then there would be alot of construction going on.

doady
April 4th, 2005, 10:58 PM
You should check out the Toronto Projects and Construction subforum. There are several threads there about Mississauga projects

Here is a link to a thread about Absolute
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=193895

Etheren
April 5th, 2005, 12:51 AM
Parkside Village is the Amacon development with five towers from the 40-50 storey range.
Here's the list of proposals for Mississauga:
Amacon 1: 50s
Amacon 2: 45s
Amacon 3: 45s
Amacon 4: 40s
Amacon 5: 40s
Capital 3: 38s
Absolute3: 38s
Solstice 1: 38s
Solstice 2: 38s

rapideye95
April 5th, 2005, 12:59 AM
thanks a lot for the postings...i like to keep my knowledge up to date....I know about how the size is in stories...but does anyone have some info on how tall the proposed height of these building are going to be in meters?

valantino
April 5th, 2005, 01:38 AM
"Parkside Village is the Amacon development with five towers from the 40-50 storey range."

Parkside Village has actually over 20 towers

"but does anyone have some info on how tall the proposed height of these building are going to be in meters?"

I doubt it - most of the heights posted for toronto buildings are from online planning documents which Mississauga doesn't do

skyscraper17
April 5th, 2005, 02:52 AM
Whoa Mississauga will become a real city, not just a suburban.

rapideye95
April 5th, 2005, 04:14 AM
whoa I HAD NO CLUE AMACON was GOING ALL OUT....THANKS VALENTINO.....but I STILL NEED THE ACTUAL HEIGHT IN METERs...it will make me sleep easier...LOL JK

rapideye95
April 5th, 2005, 04:18 AM
Whoa Mississauga will become a real city, not just a suburban.

well think about it...it's a simple concept really...before hamilton and toronto were the two big cities in southern ontario...but with all the urban growth and the construction booming....there is all of this sprawl type stuff happening....eventually oakville and burlington are gonna start to get really large in population also...then caledon and prolly st.catherines...lol...who knows whta's gonna happen

skyscraper17
April 5th, 2005, 06:46 AM
Hamilton have not had any highrise "sprouts" since in the 70's. Sad.

valantino
April 5th, 2005, 07:06 AM
parkside village

BUILDINGS

1 - 50 Storey Building (154 M) - south of Princess of Wales Blvd. and Confederation Parkway.

2 - 45 Storey Buildings (139 M) - south corner of Burnhamthrope and Confederation Parkway and north of Princess of Wales.

12 - Low Rise Buildings of 4 - 8 Storeys

6 - Medium Buildings of 11 - 24 Storeys

9 - High Rise buildings of 26 - 40

rapideye95
April 5th, 2005, 08:45 AM
wasn't parkside village doing 2 50-storey buildings? check out emporis.com

rapideye95
April 5th, 2005, 08:48 AM
thanx valantino....okay with all that noted...what going on with the capital and eden park....there is no height in meters proposed for those....i've tried looking all over...but they just say it in stoires...but stories dun mean much to me...like i said before...and i think they are a few clarkson high rises proposed or in the works of being proposed...but i'm not sure...i saw a few of those signs off southdown road...and lakeshore saying that they were building high rises....plus they said something about demolishing that old canadian tire automart and building a condo there....is any of this true

valantino
April 5th, 2005, 06:17 PM
If you want actual heights you need to contact either the architect, contractor or the city

doady
April 5th, 2005, 09:27 PM
Emporis is wrong. There is only one 50 story tower. Here are all the proposals in Misss excluding the ones in Clarkson that you mentioned:

Parkside Village 1 - 50
Parkside Village 2 - 45
Parkside Village 3 - 45
Parkside Village 4 - 40
Parkside Village 5 - 40
Solstice 1 - 38
Solstice 2 - 38
One Park Tower - 38
Absolute Vision - 38
Grand Ovation - 34
204 Enfield Place - 33
Eden Park 2 - 33
Eden Park 3 - 33
25 Hillcrest Avenue - 26
St. Lawrence 3 - 25
St. Lawrence 4 - 25
Universal 1 - 22
St. Lawrence 1 - 22
Tuscany Gates - 18
Papillion Place 3 - 18
Papillion Place 4 - 18
St. Lawrence 2 - 18
75 Britannia Road West - 14
Village Terraces 3 - 12
Parkside Village 6 - 26+
Parkside Village 7 - 26+
Parkside Village 8 - 26+
Parkside Village 9 - 26+
Parkside Village 10 - 26+
Parkside Village 11 - 26+
Parkside Village 12 - 11-25
Parkside Village 13 - 11-25
Parkside Village 14 - 11-25
Parkside Village 15 - 11-25
Parkside Village 16 - 11-25
Parkside Village 17 - 11-25
Central Park 4 - ?
Central Park 5 - ?
Central Park 6 - ?
Absolute City Centre 4 - ?
Absolute City Centre 5 - ?
Universal 2 - ?
Universal 3 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 1 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 2 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 3 - ?

No doubt that there are several proposals along the Eglinton Ave corridor as well.

rapideye95
April 7th, 2005, 06:56 AM
doady thanx a lot.....mississauga's skyline is gonna be greatly tranformed in the next 5-10 years...i'm gonna look for more stuff

rapideye95
April 7th, 2005, 06:59 AM
yeah i know that emporis is a piece of crap...i think it's impossible that they have everything exact....if possible can anyone show me sum better site...where thye have much more stuff in the mississauga area....EMPORIS is very generalized and is not that useful for me.

rapideye95
April 7th, 2005, 07:00 AM
by the way thanks everyone i thought that this was a crappy reason to start a thread but if ppl are interested then...lol...whatever

rapideye95
April 7th, 2005, 07:03 AM
oh and another thing a wan to know what everyone thinks of citygate...i think it's looks like crap in the daytime....i hope something surpasses that soon.....that thin dominates the skyline now...but saddly it looks like one of those.....cheap out buildings...but maybe i'm, wrong........................................................................................anyone?

punkstarbassist101
April 9th, 2005, 01:44 AM
citygate looks alright in the daytime but a lot better at night with its lighting on the top

rapideye95
April 11th, 2005, 10:19 AM
you know what tomorrow i'm going to go get a nice shot and i'll post it in this thread....actuallyi'll try to get a shot of the stuff happening beside the city hall

Lucky 24
April 11th, 2005, 11:26 AM
citygate looks alright in the daytime but a lot better at night with its lighting on the top

Yes, I love citygate with it's crown all lit up. Here's a shot I took back in February.

http://www.inclearimage.com/images/Toronto/february/P1020076.jpg

rapideye95
April 13th, 2005, 08:28 PM
that shot is a beauty....what camera do you have....and i'm guessing you took that from city hall right?

rapideye95
April 13th, 2005, 08:29 PM
do you think i can g et a good shot with a 2.0 megapixel camera with 2x optical zoom?....lol

rapideye95
April 15th, 2005, 12:23 AM
i havent checked it out in a week but is phase 2 for citygate done yet????

KGB
April 15th, 2005, 12:54 AM
I think City Gate is the best thing in Miss...good proportions...good detail...pretty solid towers for your run-of-the-mill affordable condo towers.






KGB

Lucky 24
April 15th, 2005, 01:30 AM
that shot is a beauty....what camera do you have....and i'm guessing you took that from city hall right?

Close, Square One parking lot.

rapideye95
April 19th, 2005, 04:40 AM
i'm a newb....first time importing a PIC.....HERE goes nothing.....

Citygate on April 18th at around 4:30 pm

rapideye95
April 19th, 2005, 04:56 AM
can anyone tell me how to post an image JUST like everybody else does

that would be nice...ty

tissot
April 19th, 2005, 05:17 AM
can anyone tell me how to post an image JUST like everybody else does

that would be nice...ty

url

rapideye95
April 19th, 2005, 05:36 AM
can i post from my local hard drive or does it have to be from an online source....cuz i want to post my own image

tissot
April 19th, 2005, 05:45 AM
can i post from my local hard drive or does it have to be from an online source....cuz i want to post my own image

u have to upload it ....use this site to upload pictures http://www.myfilehut.com ....whats good about this site is that there isn't any bandwidth limit like photobucket

rapideye95
April 19th, 2005, 08:17 AM
tissot ty so much

rapideye95
April 19th, 2005, 08:18 AM
Now CITYGATE april 18th around 4:30 pm

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/rapideye95/P1001341.jpg

rapideye95
April 19th, 2005, 08:52 AM
that was taken from my 2.0 megapixel kodak camera with 2x optical zoom

it's getting there....i'm gonna take a better shot another day when they get the glass up and finish the exterior

doady
April 19th, 2005, 06:43 PM
The mistake I made when first started posting pictures is that i never resized them. Resizing makes it look clearer and gives people a better look at the way the pic is composed. And reduces the load times as well.

http://pro.imagehost.biz/ims/pictes/300192.jpg

See, your picture looks nice. :)

rapideye95
April 19th, 2005, 06:51 PM
thanks for the tip...haha

doady
April 19th, 2005, 06:58 PM
edit

rapideye95
April 19th, 2005, 07:00 PM
here's another one
http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/rapideye95/P1001339.jpg

rapideye95
April 19th, 2005, 07:03 PM
doady you definitely did ur homework....nice shots

THAT LAST ONE WAS A BEAUTY

rapideye95
April 24th, 2005, 09:49 AM
man everyday i check now i see that the capital is getting higher...it's already tall...i hope it keeps going up higher and higher and hiogher...but it's not gonna happen i think it'a almost reached it's height soon...i dunno....i need to take more pics

JARdan
April 25th, 2005, 11:56 PM
I wonder if they'll call the GTA some sort of name that reflects the three cities. You have Hamilton, suburban Mississauga emerging as a city, and Toronto itself. All 3 have skylines too.

Just a thought I had.

KGB
April 26th, 2005, 12:11 AM
Yea...but technically, Hamilton is not part of the GTA...only an attached extension. Poor old Hamilton...it never gets respect...and now it's being overshadowed by some other Toronto suburb.





KGB

TORONTOCOPENHAGEN
April 26th, 2005, 01:49 PM
But it is basically one huge city. I mean when you drive on the QEW from Toronto to Hamilton it is urban all the way.

KGB
April 26th, 2005, 02:24 PM
Yes, but the GTA is a specific geographical area, which does not include Hamilton...that's all. If you mean the GH, then fine.





KGB

Mike in TO
April 26th, 2005, 06:46 PM
Well now there are some new terms to describe the region KGB,

The Ministry of Public Infrastructure Renewal in preparing the Places to Grow plans for the region no longer just uses the GTA.

The "Inner Ring" of the GGH (Greater Golden Horseshoe) has been coing the GTAH (Greater Toronto Area and Hamilton). The GTAH had a 2001 population of 5,810,000 and forecasts a 2031 population of 8,620,000 and the "Outer Ring" of the GGH will be divided into 4 sub-areas of study.

The "Outer Ring" has a 2001 population of 1,980,000 and a 2031 forecast of 2,880,000. The Out Ring includes: County of Northumberland, County of Peterborough, City of Kawartha Lakes, Haldimand County, Region of Niagara, County of Brant, Region of Waterloo, County of Wellington, County of Dufferin and County of Simcoe.

The entire GGH (Greater Golden Horseshoe) had a 2001 population of 7,790,000 and is forecast to reach 11,500,000 by 2031.

rapideye95
April 26th, 2005, 07:13 PM
I wonder if they'll call the GTA some sort of name that reflects the three cities. You have Hamilton, suburban Mississauga emerging as a city, and Toronto itself. All 3 have skylines too.

Just a thought I had.

Yeah ur right, i think when time flies it will happen...it's kinda like new york where you have ur separate boroughs (which are more like cities)...like manhattan being the downtown, with brooklyn, queens, staten, and the bronx. it's combined into one.....if you were to combine mississauga's area with toronto's area...it would probably be the around the same area as NYC...toronto is going thru all that right now...i predict that in the future...mississauga will merge with toronto (or the other way around the way toronto is going LOL :jk: ) just like the other cities did (etobicoke, scarborough, yada yada)...it other ppl might not have the same opinion but that's exactly what is happening....you go to north york...they have a separate skyline....you go to scarborough...same thing...mississauga's city center is growing like there is no tomorrow....so basically i predict that it after Hazel McCallion has passed on...Mississauga will not be the same and her life-long planning will be ruined by some corporate-minded egotistical jackass...I dun want to make this all sound too over analysed...but there are positives and negatives with this whole sprawl thing...but at this current time...i am not sure if the positives outweigh the negatives or vice-versa. we will let time be the deciding factor. just like with everything else

rapideye95
April 26th, 2005, 07:53 PM
and when ppl mention hamilton...it's a whole entire ball game...it's near toronto....but it's an entire different metro area

BUT ON ANOTHER NOTE

"The GTAH had a 2001 population of 5,810,000 and forecasts a 2031 population of 8,620,000 and the "Outer Ring" of the GGH will be divided into 4 sub-areas of study"

i'd say that this is a safe estimation...actually maybe even too safe...mississauga's population grew i think double in the last ten years...it will continue to happen because of the demand for high-density residential development...brampton has almost the same area as mississauga and they have tons of free land left...and brampton is entering a renaissance right now...kind of like what mississauga was going thru 10 years back... mississauga is starting to do what vancouver has already done...which is utilizing their limited space more efficiently....and as for toronto...i dunno cuz i haven't lived in toronto for about 5 years now...so i haven't really seen toronto on a regular basis...but i'm always in brampton and mississauga... and i say by 2031...the GTAH will be at LEAST 10,000,000...

punkstarbassist101
April 29th, 2005, 03:52 AM
man everyday i check now i see that the capital is getting higher...it's already tall...i hope it keeps going up higher and higher and hiogher...but it's not gonna happen i think it'a almost reached it's height soon...i dunno....i need to take more pics

How many floors is it? I saw it today I think its at 25th storey now I also saw the one park tower signs which say construction has started which I didn't know.

rapideye95
April 29th, 2005, 07:46 AM
i have no idea i never counted it...have you tried counting without guidin ur finger...LOL...you get lost counting on the way up...well yeah i think it's about 23 flors high right now and it almost taller than the city hall....so add 10 more stories the same size and then the rest of the tower and the spire...and then there it is

rapideye95
April 29th, 2005, 07:49 AM
ONE PARK TOWER is UNDER CONSTRUCTION....i had no fricken clue..man i must have missed it or sumthing....i stopped going to emporis.com because they do not update their mississauga database often...by looking at one park tower i think it's gonna be one of mississauga's tallest...am i wrong? feel free to post

JARdan
April 29th, 2005, 05:38 PM
Yea...but technically, Hamilton is not part of the GTA...only an attached extension. Poor old Hamilton...it never gets respect...and now it's being overshadowed by some other Toronto suburb.

KGB
Yes, but the GTA is a specific geographical area, which does not include Hamilton...that's all. If you mean the GH, then fine.

KGB
That's true. I guess I should have made that clearer. But yeah, that would be cool for the Golden Horseshoe to have some sort of "big" Metropolis name. It's getting pretty cool. It's the closest thing we have to the BOS-Wash corridor, lol. Toronto-Mississauga, Barrie, Hamilton, St. Catharines, Kitchener-Waterloo, and London.

We sort of have the "Toronto-Quebec City corridor". Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, and Qubec City, though they are still relatively far apart. However, by Canadian standards they are close!

Mike in TO
April 29th, 2005, 08:43 PM
Greater Golden Horseshoe

rapideye95
April 29th, 2005, 09:04 PM
That's true. I guess I should have made that clearer. But yeah, that would be cool for the Golden Horseshoe to have some sort of "big" Metropolis name. It's getting pretty cool. It's the closest thing we have to the BOS-Wash corridor, lol. Toronto-Mississauga, Barrie, Hamilton, St. Catharines, Kitchener-Waterloo, and London.

it would be cool but it would be OUTRAGEOUS...if you merge all the cities toronto would be like EAST end and if anyone wanted to do sumthing it would all be in toronto...And besides it won't happen...the only thing that i see happening in the future...is that mississuag will become part of toronto....not anytime soon...but we all know that when hazel passes on mississauga will be screwed over

rapideye95
April 29th, 2005, 09:05 PM
AND THIS IS A MISSISSAUGA thread...POST SUM DAMN PICS ALREADY

JARdan
April 29th, 2005, 10:31 PM
it would be cool but it would be OUTRAGEOUS...if you merge all the cities toronto would be like EAST end and if anyone wanted to do sumthing it would all be in toronto...And besides it won't happen...the only thing that i see happening in the future...is that mississuag will become part of toronto....not anytime soon...but we all know that when hazel passes on mississauga will be screwed over
I'm not saying that all of these cities should amalgamate with Toronto. I was just pondering over the thought of coming up with a new name that identifies this large, dense, urban area. For example, the Metroplex in Texas, "Dallas-Forth Worth" and the Twin Cities in Minnesota "Minneapolis- St. Paul."

For metropolitan Toronto, we have the GTA. For the extended GTA, if you will, we have the Golden Horseshoe. Maybe they could change the name of Golden Horseshoe to something else. Something that will give it more thurst and give it that "big" appeal.

I guess the area would mainly focus on Toronto-Mississauga (all of the GTA), and Hamilton. However, there are many other relatively populated places that could be included. You could stretch it as far as St. Catharines in you wanted, and as far north as Barrie.

Maybe I'm thinking along the lines of a new geographical area, but that is pretty much what the GH consists of. I'd just like to see a better name, perhaps.

KGB
April 29th, 2005, 11:06 PM
I sorta like the Golden Horseshoe monicker as it is...it's different...and logical too. It's also been around for a while.





KGB

rapideye95
April 30th, 2005, 10:06 PM
YEAH they should promote everyhting as the golden horseshoe more...because we get a lot of visistors...they should have signs when u enter niagara and oshawa and around the GH...it should say "WELCOME TO THE GOLDEN HORSESHOE"

rapideye95
April 30th, 2005, 10:07 PM
right now it's just a moniker that only tha GTA and around know
how bout making it world worldwide

Buster
May 1st, 2005, 02:40 AM
right now it's just a moniker that only tha GTA and around know
how bout making it world worldwide

Good idea.

We should all start using it in different parts of this forum.

JARdan
May 1st, 2005, 06:51 AM
YEAH they should promote everyhting as the golden horseshoe more...because we get a lot of visistors...they should have signs when u enter niagara and oshawa and around the GH...it should say "WELCOME TO THE GOLDEN HORSESHOE"
That is a good idea. Give it some sort of regional significance for tourists.

rapideye95
May 1st, 2005, 10:32 PM
by the way...if anyone one see's my frequent typing mistakes...i apologize...i thought i should just make that clear...LOL

partybits
May 2nd, 2005, 01:04 AM
Finally Mississauga is creating its own downtown core. What I would love to see is that ghastly parking island surrounding Square One replaced with mulit-level parking so that it can be used for developement instead. Perhaps more commercial though because Square One is currently sucking all street life into the mall itself.

Either way, can someone post Mississauga Skyline pics, especially the panoramic views. The ones on Emporis does'nt do justification to the new found skyline.

Ranter

rapideye95
May 2nd, 2005, 06:42 PM
EMPORIS ABSOLUTELY SUCKS...they update brampton more than they update mississauga

valantino
May 2nd, 2005, 09:06 PM
^I don't see anything that needs updating on Mississauga's page

punkstarbassist101
May 3rd, 2005, 12:54 AM
^I don't see anything that needs updating on Mississauga's page

Uh yea there is check the construction status part on Mississauga as well as the tallest buildings in Mississauga it has the park mansion at #1 at 112m and I'm sure there's more

doady
May 3rd, 2005, 01:17 AM
Emporis's info in Mississauga is quite up-to-date. They need to fix the info on the Parkside village towers. There is only one 50 story tower, not 2. They need to add the two 40 story towers as well.

Also, the status of two Metropole buildings should be "never built" and they should add the two Solstice towers, which are 38 stories. Grand Ovation should be 34 stories, not 28.

There are some "never built" office buildings in the city centre that should be added as well. I think that is pretty much it. They update quite regularly I think.

rapideye95
May 3rd, 2005, 05:43 AM
well for a site that is dedicated to have the largest database of all high-rise information...i think a couple mistakes like that is a little too much...i'm not expecting them to be perfect but cmon...the specialize in only high-rises they should have this down cold....urbandb is more accurate to me cuz it specializes more of toornto and the GTA

valantino
May 3rd, 2005, 07:51 AM
"well for a site that is dedicated to have the largest database of all high-rise information...i think a couple mistakes like that is a little too much...i'm not expecting them to be perfect but cmon"

So a proposal or two are missing or their status needs upgrading - I think you are expecting too much

rapideye95
May 3rd, 2005, 10:40 PM
valantino you should stop crying about it already...is it bad that I am anxious for these buildings to go up...unless u represent emporis.com...u shouldn't be on my ass for making a few complaints

rapideye95
May 3rd, 2005, 10:46 PM
there is this thread HERE (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=151598) that talks about the new AMACON development being unveiled...shouldn't there be some renderings???....i've been searching for some info for a while now and have yet to find anything...no pics no models....nothing...this project is now considered to be almost as dense as cityplace and other proposed condo neighbourhoods...i can't wait anymore...i have to see some pics....:pepper:

Travis007
May 3rd, 2005, 11:11 PM
there is this thread HERE (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=151598) that talks about the new AMACON development being unveiled...shouldn't there be some renderings???....i've been searching for some info for a while now and have yet to find anything...no pics no models....nothing...this project is now considered to be almost as dense as cityplace and other proposed condo neighbourhoods...i can't wait anymore...i have to see some pics....:pepper:
They'll probably release the render when Amacon actually starts selling the Parkside Village condos. There's really not much info or pics of it, not even the Amacon website has added Parkside Village on its website.

And dude maybe you should volunteer to be an editor on Emporis for mississauga since you're upset over a few building errors. Go for it! :D

PS: Just because Emporis doesn't have a few buildings added on its website isn't the end of the world. Just look at Toronto, we have hundreds of buildings in the 20-30s range that don't have the height of it. People don't realize about these buildings and think that Toronto has 1900 mid-rises.

rapideye95
May 3rd, 2005, 11:31 PM
They'll probably release the render when Amacon actually starts selling the Parkside Village condos. There's really not much info or pics of it, not even the Amacon website has added Parkside Village on its website.

And dude maybe you should volunteer to be an editor on Emporis for mississauga since you're upset over a few building errors. Go for it! :D

PS: Just because Emporis doesn't have a few buildings added on its website isn't the end of the world. Just look at Toronto, we have hundreds of buildings in the 20-30s range that don't have the height of it. People don't realize about these buildings and think that Toronto has 1900 mid-rises.

Yeah I know what you are talking about, i know the info is scarce right now but i know that a lot of experts posts here...so i was hoping they could hook up a 'lil sumthing.

on the other hand... i would love to work for emporis...but cmon...i don't have the credentials...i'm into networking anyway...i only post here out of interest...i like photography if that means anything

AND perhaps a was being to hard on emporis...ur right toronto's database is worse...so it can't be that bad...i actually checked out a few asain countries and a lot of their cities don't show the heights of their buildings either

partybits
May 4th, 2005, 12:55 AM
Wonder how Emporis operates, how do they keep on top of all the proposals/approvals/constructions going on. Just a curiousity.

I know I asked only a day or two ago, but what the hell....any mississauga skyline pics?

valantino
May 4th, 2005, 01:09 AM
"valantino you should stop crying about it already...is it bad that I am anxious for these buildings to go up...unless u represent emporis.com...u shouldn't be on my ass for making a few complaints"

Maybe because I have a high regard for the editors (especially those in the Toronto area) who volunteer their time to keep the site updated and running - check out Mississauga's page

Roch5220
May 4th, 2005, 01:11 AM
flew over MCC this saturday flying into pearson, OMG. wish I brought my camera.

Travis007
May 4th, 2005, 03:38 AM
Wonder how Emporis operates, how do they keep on top of all the proposals/approvals/constructions going on. Just a curiousity.

I know I asked only a day or two ago, but what the hell....any mississauga skyline pics?
These pics were posted by doady a while back:
http://pro.imagehost.biz/ims/pictes/124472.jpg
http://pro.imagehost.biz/ims/pictes/145929.jpg
http://pro.imagehost.biz/ims/pictes/145917.jpg
http://pro.imagehost.biz/ims/pictes/153797.jpg

Travis007
May 4th, 2005, 03:47 AM
More pics from http://www.pbase.com/image/42471473
http://jiki.pbase.com/u17/doady/large/42471473.mccA9.jpg
http://jiki.pbase.com/u13/doady/large/42471474.mccB2.jpg
http://jiki.pbase.com/u13/doady/large/42471489.misspano4.jpg

doady
May 4th, 2005, 04:41 AM
More pics from http://www.pbase.com/image/42471473
...


Yeah, these links are no good, my bad. I switched to pbase, and linking the pictures is more complicated than before. The top link is correct but the wrong size so it looks really bad. My pic is 864x648 and it reduce it to 800x600 which totally destroys the image.

Here are the correct links (to the original sizes):

http://www.pbase.com/doady/image/42471473/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/doady/image/42471474/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/doady/image/42530777/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/doady/image/42471480/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/doady/image/42471481/original.jpg

This last one is panorama so don't click if you have 56k.
http://www.pbase.com/doady/image/42471489/original.jpg

There are two possible places that might be good view fo MCC skyline, so I might check them out eventually, but right now I am more interested in taking general landscape pictures so it might be awhile before I get around to it.

partybits
May 4th, 2005, 04:48 AM
Tks for the pics guys. Guess I can't make fun of Mississauga being a burb no more...then again...whose gonna stop me...lol

rapideye95
May 4th, 2005, 07:41 AM
DOADY i give you props...you know how to take ur pics

rapideye95
May 4th, 2005, 07:42 AM
I swear I am going to go take the time and get some more decent shots...and this time i'll go to good locations....

SICZ24
May 6th, 2005, 02:06 AM
Here are some pics of Mississauga under construction. I took these today while I was down by Square one (May 5 2005)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0631.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0640.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0642.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0638.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0635.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0628.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0627.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0617.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0616.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0615.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0643.jpg

DrJoe
May 6th, 2005, 02:16 AM
Great pics Sicz.

Can you say poor mans Vancouver???

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0635.jpg

Etheren
May 6th, 2005, 03:41 AM
Yeah, great pics! :D

Unfortunately, Grand Ovation looks pretty grey and bad in those pics. :( I think the reason CityGate looks so nice is because it's the only green glass tower in MCC right now, where it stands out in its surroundings. Unlike Vancouver where every building there looks alike and there doesn't seem to be any creativity in the buildings.

Travis007
May 6th, 2005, 03:56 AM
Is that Capital in the first pic? I'm not sure grey is a good choice of colour for the glass. But I was never quite sure what to expect from the capital because the render showed it to be a brown building with brownish-gold glass.

Anyways Great Pics! :D

rapideye95
May 6th, 2005, 05:15 AM
SICZ24...looks like you did everything for me....NICE PICS

doady
May 6th, 2005, 05:50 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0635.jpg

Whoa this is great shot, great composition and everything. Good job.

rapideye95
May 6th, 2005, 09:33 AM
that is definitely a great shot...not to close and not far...it is a great setting for mississauga's two tallest..(not for long)

rapideye95
May 6th, 2005, 09:42 AM
BTW i found out clarkson does have a proposal for the city for 3 high-rise condominiums in clarkson right across from the go station on southdown road....they are planning to renew all of that area beside the creek (bout time) and they will rejuvenate the park on the corner of southdown and lakeshore...1 of them will be 17 stories and the other will be a 19 stories...then they are going to finally tear down that old canadian tire automart across from the go station and build a much larger development not sure tho...i have mentioned this b4 but just to refresh ppl's minds...cuz they are not listed anywhere

SICZ24
May 6th, 2005, 03:18 PM
thanks for the great comments guys! I took those pics really quick too. I had a coupe of construction workers yelling at me from like the 20th floor of one of the condos, why? I dont know?

punkstarbassist101
May 6th, 2005, 11:18 PM
More Pics
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/skypics/000fca84.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/skypics/c29e4cb3.jpg

Travis007
May 6th, 2005, 11:22 PM
So in the future, Burhamthorpe, Hurontario, will be the major density area for Missisauga? Sorry, I've never been to Mississauga before.

PS: It will also be great if Missi had some office towers as well....err...NOOO!!! No office towers for Missi...they should only be built in downtown Toronto. :runaway: :bash:

The 'Sauga
May 7th, 2005, 12:03 AM
MCC is quickly catching up with NYCC with taller buidings than NYCC. Although NYCC is denser at the moment, MCC will catch up in a few years.

rapideye95
May 7th, 2005, 01:29 AM
So in the future, Burhamthorpe, Hurontario, will be the major density area for Missisauga? Sorry, I've never been to Mississauga before.

PS: It will also be great if Missi had some office towers as well....err...NOOO!!! No office towers for Missi...they should only be built in downtown Toronto. :runaway: :bash:

WHY can't mississuaga have office buildings...the fact is...mississauga needs more of them ....and toronto could benefit more because this will reduce the amount of traffic on all the highways entering toronto...less congestion...too many mississaugans work in toronto right now.

The 'Sauga
May 7th, 2005, 03:48 AM
WHY can't mississuaga have office buildings...the fact is...mississauga needs more of them ....and toronto could benefit more because this will reduce the amount of traffic on all the highways entering toronto...less congestion...too many mississaugans work in toronto right now.
Well that is your side of the discussion with Mississauga's point of view. But for most Torontonians that really isn't a factor at all. Almost all of Toronto's business in the last decade has moved to the 905 area where there is lower taxes, and the business is driven away from downtown Toronto. This means higher vacancy rates and less office towers going up.

partybits
May 7th, 2005, 06:20 AM
You guys think Mississauga can ever have a true type of downtown with a full saturation of commercial, retail and residential as long as the Square One is there. I have always thought that it is a big hindrance to devoloping a streetscape and encouraging a pedestrian atmosphere and vibrancy needed for a downtown.

Then again, to be fair I am from Toronto, not Mississauga. Nice to get some feedback from someone who lives there.

rapideye95
May 7th, 2005, 09:57 AM
Well that is your side of the discussion with Mississauga's point of view. But for most Torontonians that really isn't a factor at all. Almost all of Toronto's business in the last decade has moved to the 905 area where there is lower taxes, and the business is driven away from downtown Toronto. This means higher vacancy rates and less office towers going up.

with toronto growing in population so much...i think what happened ten years back until now has no effect on traffic today...there were a LOT less ppl living in mississauga ten years ago...the thing is there is still not enough commercial spaces in mississauga...so many ppl stll work in toronto..just listen to 680 news during rush hour...and almost always there is heavy traffic at rush hour because of suburbians going and coming from toronto....mississuaga needs a strong office development in MCC to supplement the commuters west of mississauga...that's how traffic will be reduced...you say TAXES have been cut...alright fine...the demand for office buildings in MCC is gonna increase very soon...or rightfully it should.

rapideye95
May 7th, 2005, 10:04 AM
SQUARE ONE HAS TOO MUCH UNUSED PARKING SPACE....they need to build another one of those multi-story parking lots or a....and then make developments to replace the most unused portions of parking space...preferably at the corners near the roads...square one's massive useless lots make mississauga's skyline setting look so shyt in the daytime

rapideye95
May 12th, 2005, 09:28 PM
Poor Unused Properties near Clarkson GO...just 2 minutes walk
the auto mart here has a 2, 24 story apartment complex proposal

http://myfilehut.com/userfiles/rapideye95/may%2012th%202005%20130.jpg?PHPSESSID=c9f78a23f91a69576b98e22fb485f514

http://myfilehut.com/userfiles/rapideye95/may%2012th%202005%20132.jpg

valantino
May 12th, 2005, 11:49 PM
"WHY can't mississuaga have office buildings...the fact is...mississauga needs more of them"

It costs more to build in Mississauga City Centre (which is reflected in the rental rates) so I don't expect to see any office construction there

DrJoe
May 12th, 2005, 11:53 PM
Ugh, they should just tear this piece of crap mall down, and start all over again.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/skypics/c29e4cb3.jpg


That does not look like a place where anyone would want to live.

Travis007
May 13th, 2005, 12:01 AM
"That does not look like a place where anyone would want to live."
Well apparrently, a lot of people want to live in MCC, One Park Tower, is selling fast and is already U/C after a few weeks. But I agree, there's too much unused parking space in MCC, and so far everything revolves around Square One, which is not good when it comes to urban planning.

doady
May 13th, 2005, 02:49 AM
If Mississauga seriously improves its transit system, and reduces the amount of car use in Mississauga, those parking lots around Square One can be redeveloped. No doubt that will happen once Mississauga completes the LRT on Hurontario and busway along the 403.

Btw, Emporis updated the Mississauga database to coorect heights of the buildings, to include more of the Parkside Village towers, and so they now have 235 high-rises listed for Mississauga.

doady
May 13th, 2005, 04:23 AM
yeah they have entered the solstice condominiums and they have editied metropole also


Uhh... shouldn't Metropole be "Never built"? Why did they take it out of the database completely?

doady
May 13th, 2005, 04:26 AM
Wow... I posted after you, but my post is on top of yours... I've never seen that happen before. It says that you posted on May 13, but it is still May 12... This is seriously fucked up.

rapideye95
May 13th, 2005, 06:15 AM
If Mississauga seriously improves its transit system, and reduces the amount of car use in Mississauga, those parking lots around Square One can be redeveloped. No doubt that will happen once Mississauga completes the LRT on Hurontario and busway along the 403.

Btw, Emporis updated the Mississauga database to coorect heights of the buildings, to include more of the Parkside Village towers, and so they now have 235 high-rises listed for Mississauga.

yeah they have entered the solstice condominiums and they have editied metropole also

Well apparrently, a lot of people want to live in MCC, One Park Tower, is selling fast and is already U/C after a few weeks. But I agree, there's too much unused parking space in MCC, and so far everything revolves around Square One, which is not good when it comes to urban planning.

i am always going to aquare one during the busiest times of the day and the parking space is never used...they have to build more attractions around square 1 and use the unused parking space...it's true they are revolving everything around sq1 and that is not a good sign

rapideye95
May 13th, 2005, 06:17 AM
i honestly prefer to go to erin mills town center rather than square one

valantino
May 13th, 2005, 09:19 AM
"Uhh... shouldn't Metropole be "Never built"? Why did they take it out of the database completely?"

Probably because there was no rendering - Does anyone have it?

rapideye95
May 13th, 2005, 09:48 PM
yeah metropole never really generated any sales...so they just dumped the project all together and went with solstice, on urbantoronto it's marked as "never built" but the weird thing is i still see the ads on the mississauga buses LOL...there are better things to be updated...lol

rapideye95
May 13th, 2005, 09:52 PM
Wow... I posted after you, but my post is on top of yours... I've never seen that happen before. It says that you posted on May 13, but it is still May 12... This is seriously fucked up.

it probably screwed up because I probably edited it shortly after you due to many typing errors...lol

Travis007
May 13th, 2005, 11:54 PM
Yo....
http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/mississauga/metropole_rendering.jpg

Travis007
May 14th, 2005, 12:16 AM
And rapideye did you hear, LRT line for Mississauga: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=4117661#post4117661

punkstarbassist101
May 14th, 2005, 01:02 AM
Hey if one park tower is under construction is it the 3rd building under construction in this pic and all the other pics showing the capital?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/SICZ24/IMG_0615.jpg

doady
May 14th, 2005, 01:24 AM
^ One Park Tower is not in that pic. The third building is Amica. I don't think One Park Tower is under construction since I went by yesterday and it looks like the site is being used for parking for construction workers. I am pretty sure it is just a marketing stunt.

Strange that Emporis would take Metropole out of the database since I am pretty sure they had the rendering already, but I could be wrong.

punkstarbassist101
May 14th, 2005, 01:34 AM
Alright thanks for clearing that up, I didnt know what that tower was and it was near the capital and I had a feeling it wasnt one park.

Travis007
May 14th, 2005, 03:01 AM
I don't think emporis took Metropole off it's database, I think it simply just changed it to Solstice like em. did for Toronto, changing Downtown Plaza to Sapphire Tower.

Travis007
May 14th, 2005, 03:03 AM
And aren't the Absolute condos U/C? Are there any construction pics of it?

rapideye95
May 14th, 2005, 06:04 AM
absolute is loafting as usual...everything is going slow but smooth for them i guess....as far as the LRT goes....what is that gonna look like...is it gonna be like scarborough RT?....AND one park tower hasn't even starting excavation yet?....I thought they would be at least that far seeing as how they sold it in under two weeks....

BTW why are the stories of these condos so short...for 30-something story towers they are relatively short compared to other taller 30 story towers (i'm talking about the ones in mississauga) i'm guessing these condo unit owners will feel very cluttered. i think these new condos will only be useful for investment purposes.

valantino
May 14th, 2005, 06:27 AM
"BTW why are the stories of these condos so short...for 30-something story towers they are relatively short compared to other taller 30 story towers (i'm talking about the ones in mississauga) i'm guess these condo unit owners will feel very cluttered. i think these new condos will only be useful for investment purposes."

I don't quite understand your point but residential floor heights tend to be taller in Mississauga City Centre than elsewhere in the GTA (Just in case - the Capital in the photo has yet to reach 30 floors)

Thanks for the rendering of Metropole

valantino
May 14th, 2005, 06:35 AM
" but the weird thing is i still see the ads on the mississauga buses"

Website still works

www.metropolecondos.ca

Travis007
May 14th, 2005, 05:05 PM
absolute is loafting as usual...everything is going slow but smooth for them i guess....as far as the LRT goes....what is that gonna look like...is it gonna be like scarborough RT?....AND one park tower hasn't even starting excavation yet?....I thought they would be at least that far seeing as how they sold it in under two weeks....

I don't think that they've completely sold One Park Tower out. It's probably nothing more than a marketing ploy. Sales are pretty good but I doubt that it's good enough to start construction after a couple of weeks.

Same thing with London condos, they're 50% sold out in 2 weeks and I believe True Spirit is selling well too.

rapideye95
May 14th, 2005, 07:20 PM
"BTW why are the stories of these condos so short...for 30-something story towers they are relatively short compared to other taller 30 story towers (i'm talking about the ones in mississauga) i'm guess these condo unit owners will feel very cluttered. i think these new condos will only be useful for investment purposes."

I don't quite understand your point but residential floor heights tend to be taller in Mississauga City Centre than elsewhere in the GTA (Just in case - the Capital in the photo has yet to reach 30 floors)

Thanks for the rendering of Metropole

I'm just wonderin why FCP is like 70 floors and 298m and sapphire tower will be 90 floors and 341m...what is the ceiling difference for each floor for office buildings and condos...that's what i'm wondering...no need to be confused..and I know the capital hasn't reached full floors yet...just to make that clear...i just wanna know why the new residential high-rises have shorter floors...not like it's a big deal or anything

rapideye95
May 14th, 2005, 07:27 PM
" but the weird thing is i still see the ads on the mississauga buses"

Website still works

www.metropolecondos.ca

UMMMMM....LOL...this is becoming a really sad and yet hilarious situation...i clicked on the link to go to their website..i cannot believe the website is still there (it hasn't been a long time but styll funny nevertheless)...i'm wondering if they are planning to keep and just change the location...the builder IS summer view...are they an affiliate of AMACON..if not then WHO KNOWS they might have this project on hold

rapideye95
May 14th, 2005, 07:31 PM
I don't think that they've completely sold One Park Tower out. It's probably nothing more than a marketing ploy. Sales are pretty good but I doubt that it's good enough to start construction after a couple of weeks.

Same thing with London condos, they're 50% sold out in 2 weeks and I believe True Spirit is selling well too.

yeah i'm starting to realize that now because when you think about most buildings don't even wait until 100% sold to start construction...they probably have just reached their target and are about to start building...and yeah perhaps it is a marketing scheme to get ppl to rush and get the "last available condos" hint hint...i wouldn't be surprised

valantino
May 14th, 2005, 09:30 PM
"I'm just wonderin why FCP is like 70 floors and 298m and sapphire tower will be 90 floors and 341m...what is the ceiling difference for each floor for office buildings and condos"

Office buildings tend to be more luxurious with higher foyers (a.k.a. the first floor) , mechanical systems hidden in between the ceiling and concrete slab above (most apartments have them hidden behind drywall bulkheads along the ceiling of the apartment) and larger expanses of column free space requiring a stronger floor slab (~twice as thick)

rapideye95
May 15th, 2005, 12:01 AM
hmph...makes sense

doady
May 15th, 2005, 03:51 AM
That's the thing with Emporis: instead of minimum 12 stories, they should have minimum 96 feet for buildings. Why 96 feet? Cuz 8 feet is the typical height of floor of an apartment and 12 x 8 feet = 96 feet. Either that or have different standard for office buildings. Office buildings 10-11 stories tall are taller than 12 story apartment buildings, but they do not count as high-rises.

Travis007
May 15th, 2005, 04:02 AM
That's the thing with Emporis: instead of minimum 12 stories, they should have minimum 96 feet for buildings. Why 96 feet? Cuz 8 feet is the typical height of floor of an apartment and 12 x 8 feet = 96 feet. Either that or have different standard for office buildings. Office buildings 10-11 stories tall are taller than 12 story apartment buildings, but they do not count as high-rises.
Well Emporis' database is very incomplete especially when it comes to height. Emporis only counts buildings 12 and up but if you check the further pages of emporis, a lot of buildings do not have the height in m/ft. But em. does have a low-rise section so those buildings that are lower than 12s and higher than 96 ft. they should be in there.

rapideye95
May 15th, 2005, 06:24 AM
^^^ i think this is due because either:
A) the project is new and they don't have the exact measurement
B) emporis just couldn't get the information
C) emporis probably doesn't care about getting exact numbers for mississauga just yet b/c they have to keep track of so many communities

i think they have to get like the blueprints or ask the builder or the architect...but yeah i was wondering the same myself...many of the new mississauga buildings have no height in meters...just the floor height

another thing about emporis that intrigued me is that...you know those mural-type banners they draw for every city...like toronto they have a huge rendering of it at the top?....well surprisingly enough...brampton has one of it's own...and mississauga does not....i'm guessing they dun want to bother with it because for the next 3-4 years mississaugas skyline will be different every few months...lol

valantino
May 15th, 2005, 07:57 AM
Emporis' minimum requirement for a highrise is 35 metres (For Toronto that maybe several hundred buildings still missing) and 12 storeys for those without a confirmed height. An editor does require a reference before he can enter a building height which isn't so easy to attain.

Pretty sure only one person is making the banners and considering the number of cities plus that its all volunteer, I'm willing to forgo a few missed cities here and there even if he is a rival Montrealer.

rapideye95
May 15th, 2005, 09:52 AM
Emporis' minimum requirement for a highrise is 35 metres (For Toronto that maybe several hundred buildings still missing) and 12 storeys for those without a confirmed height. An editor does require a reference before he can enter a building height which isn't so easy to attain.

Pretty sure only one person is making the banners and considering the number of cities plus that its all volunteer, I'm willing to forgo a few missed cities here and there even if he is a rival Montrealer.

what kind of reference are you speaking of?....are you saying that the editor would have to have proof that "so and so" told him/her the height of the building? yeah ur right if they were to count the toronto highrises as 35 m there would be a lot more buildings to add so guess it is always easier to just go by floors...it's makes it fair for everyone...the cities, the people who tally this stuff, and the fellow forumers

valantino
May 15th, 2005, 07:50 PM
what kind of reference are you speaking of?....

architectural elevations, re-zoning applications, etc. - a copy of an official document showing a building's height.

yeah ur right if they were to count the toronto highrises as 35 m there would be a lot more buildings to add so guess it is always easier to just go by floors...it's makes it fair for everyone

Somewhat fair considering many other cities (especially in North America, Europe) have highrises listed that are under 12 storeys because their height exceeds 35m (Vancouver has roughly 25 listed with New York at over two to three hundred) You could say Toronto is actually undercounted by North America's standards

rapideye95
May 15th, 2005, 11:08 PM
oh okay i get it now...it boggles my mind how toronto is always undercounted in many categories because of canada's standard being different from US

rapideye95
May 17th, 2005, 03:41 AM
MORE PICS!!!!!

http://myfilehut.com/userfiles/rapideye95/MMC%20may%2016%2C2005%20025.jpg

http://myfilehut.com/userfiles/rapideye95/MMC%20may%2016%2C2005%20010.jpg

http://myfilehut.com/userfiles/rapideye95/MMC%20may%2016%2C2005%20020.jpg

http://myfilehut.com/userfiles/rapideye95/MMC%20may%2016%2C2005%20009.jpg

http://myfilehut.com/userfiles/rapideye95/MMC%20may%2016%2C2005%20026.jpg

Marcanadian
May 17th, 2005, 11:19 PM
Nice photos

Roch5220
May 17th, 2005, 11:29 PM
Nice pics. Just how many of the new condos have above ground parking? I know it maybe deceiving since some of the condos are right by the strip malls parking.

rapideye95
May 17th, 2005, 11:56 PM
i am not exactly sure...it's most defintely underground or somewhere in or around the building...at ovation if you on the south side of the south tower...the parking entry is right there...it's very traditional...nothing weird or different

doady
May 18th, 2005, 12:48 AM
The only recent condo project that has above-ground parking is Citygate.

rapideye95, that first picture is great. Is it taken from that condo across from the Sussex Centre?

rapideye95
May 18th, 2005, 08:12 AM
no actually i took it AT the sussex centre on the 4th floor...i tried to go to the top floor to get a good pic but i forgot that the structure of the top only has room for like 2 or 3 units....so i went to the 4th floor and when i got out of the elevator, the entire floor was empty and nobody was in sight it was the remains of what was left from other comnpanies who leased the space previously...so i took advantage of it and fired a few pics

rapideye95
May 18th, 2005, 08:14 AM
I JUST WISH THERE WAS better weather out at the time i took that pic

rapideye95
May 26th, 2005, 02:35 AM
emporis made a small update on their database for mississauga...do you know that mississauga civic centre is 92m???? :D XD LOL.....soooooo fascinating...so capital should end up being between 105-120 m

Travis007
May 26th, 2005, 03:34 AM
emporis made a small update on their database for mississauga...do you know that mississauga civic centre is 92m???? :D XD LOL.....soooooo fascinating...so capital should end up being between 105-120 m
I'm used to seeing buildings measured in feet so I'm assuming that Capital should be at least 320 ft. and with that huge roof element, it could end up 330-380 ft. Empire @ NY Towers is 28 storeys and 420 ft.

rapideye95
May 26th, 2005, 06:15 PM
i'm canadian...so for me it's metres :D

Travis007
May 26th, 2005, 10:43 PM
I'm Canadian too but when it comes to building heights, I'm used to seeing it in feet. When people think of super-talls, they think 1000 ft. not 300 m.

BTW: Mississauga will end up having a bunch of 300ft.+:bleh: towers in the future.

Roch5220
May 26th, 2005, 11:28 PM
so, how many yards is that?

rbt
May 27th, 2005, 12:45 AM
so, how many yards is that?

Don't know, but it's about 1.5 furlongs.

Travis007
May 27th, 2005, 03:44 AM
UPDATE on Capital and Amica:
By UrbanSuburban on SSP

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/yyzer/20may01a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/yyzer/20may04a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/yyzer/20may06a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/yyzer/20may07a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/yyzer/20may08a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/yyzer/20may11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/yyzer/20may13a.jpg

partybits
May 27th, 2005, 04:40 AM
I just tend to think of feets as meter. That way we have super tall buildings everywhere. CN tower is 1800metres!!! WOW!!!
By the way, nice close up pics of the capital building

rapideye95
May 28th, 2005, 01:16 AM
i went near the capital today.....and capital north they were constructing the 27th floor today....so 3 more to go and then that roof element with the spire

rapideye95
May 28th, 2005, 01:18 AM
i pray to God that mississauga's skyline will not end up being flat...with all 90-130m towers....i hope "one park tower" will be around 150m...that will make a huge difference

Travis007
May 28th, 2005, 03:24 AM
i pray to God that mississauga's skyline will not end up being flat...with all 90-130m towers....i hope "one park tower" will be around 150m...that will make a huge difference
You mean flat like Vancouver's skyline? Having a "flat" skyline isn't that bad, if there's enough density. And I feel that having a skyline like that is pretty darn good for a suburb of Toronto. I don't think that One Park Tower will be around 150 m, the most i see it is 140 m. The tallest in Mississauga's skyline I think will be 170 m. And with capital, one park tower, citygate having a different design, Missi could have a pretty diverse skyline....until all the green condo towers start popping up.

Roch5220
May 28th, 2005, 03:33 AM
^Definately. Theres nothing wrong with a flat skyline. It actually makes the city look bigger as there is no shrinking effect. Vancouver's skyline makes the city bigger than the feeling that I get when I'm in their city. While, the reverse is true for me when I'm back in TO.

doady
May 28th, 2005, 03:49 AM
Most of the buildings in the city centre area are 20-25 stories tall, so if anything, Mississauga's skyline is becoming less flat with these new developments, not more.

rapideye95
May 28th, 2005, 08:58 PM
maybe...but i think ovation is wat makes everthing look so flat...i don't like how in some views it covers citygate except the top

Travis007
May 29th, 2005, 12:07 AM
Well it depends on the angle you view the skyline at, and Ovation is the ugliest thing MCC has right now. It looks like crap from the pics I've seen, is it that bad in reality?

doady
May 29th, 2005, 01:56 AM
Ovation actually turned out much better than I thought it would, but I had very low expections in the first place so I guess that isn't saying much.

I took this abaout 4 months ago and I somehow managed to make it look taller, straighter, and shinier than Citygate so it doesn't look too bad here.
http://www.pbase.com/doady/image/43985533/original.jpg

Travis007
May 29th, 2005, 05:04 AM
That pic actually changes my mind about Ovation. It looks like a nice golden-yellow coloured precast tower in that pic. Call me crazy but I thought that was Ceasar;s Palace in Las Vegas when I first saw that pic.

rapideye95
May 29th, 2005, 07:22 AM
well doady that is a great shot...i mean you were able to get a good shot just when the light was complimenting the building...ovation looks great when the glass glimmers....but on gloomy days...especially some of the days we have had this spring it has looked terrible....i think the problem with ovation is that for a building it's height it looks to fat on one side...but as more buildings go up we will all appreciate it more....

BTW...is there one more condo left for ovation or is it only north and south?.....i heard something about a grand ovation too

Roch5220
May 29th, 2005, 04:09 PM
cookie cutter tridel

rapideye95
May 30th, 2005, 01:21 AM
^^ what do u mean by "cookie cutter" ?

valantino
May 30th, 2005, 04:08 AM
"cookie cutter" - a mold - an easy way to quickly cut dough into cookies but is usually limited to only the one pre-determined shape

(I now feel like some Oreo Double Delights with mint filling)

Now replace the baker with an architect

rapideye95
May 31st, 2005, 03:41 AM
"cookie cutter" - a mold - an easy way to quickly cut dough into cookies but is usually limited to only the one pre-determined shape

(I now feel like some Oreo Double Delights with mint filling)

Now replace the baker with an architect

I know what a cookie cutter is....in fact I am eating some Oreos as of this very post... :runaway:

I just wanted to know exactly what it meant in terms of architecture...BTW u replied, i'm guessing a COOKIE CUTTER= easy POS building shape

Roch5220
May 31st, 2005, 03:48 AM
Havn't you thought that you've had deja vu when you look at those brownish tridels? Thank god they are getting much better. Concord, know I guess thats the most extreme developer doing it.

rapideye95
June 1st, 2005, 05:30 PM
Havn't you thought that you've had deja vu when you look at those brownish tridels? Thank god they are getting much better. Concord, know I guess thats the most extreme developer doing it.

to me it's just a normal concrete slab...it's nice but i like citygate much better....not that citygate is that hot also

rapideye95
June 2nd, 2005, 06:11 PM
anyone know which condo in absolute is going up first?

Roch5220
June 2nd, 2005, 06:29 PM
to me it's just a normal concrete slab...it's nice but i like citygate much better....not that citygate is that hot also

concrete slab?

valantino
June 2nd, 2005, 07:23 PM
"i'm guessing a COOKIE CUTTER= easy POS building shape"

a design that is basically recycled over and over and over again

(Except for some minor detailing, Ovation, Skymark, Skymark at Avondale, Mansions of Humberwood all look the same)

rapideye95
June 2nd, 2005, 08:54 PM
"i'm guessing a COOKIE CUTTER= easy POS building shape"

a design that is basically recycled over and over and over again

(Except for some minor detailing, Ovation, Skymark, Skymark at Avondale, Mansions of Humberwood all look the same)

LOL once you said "a design that is basically recycled over and over and over again" right away i started think about vancouver and amacon

BTW one thing is for sure i cannot get over the fact and ovation and skymark look exactly the same from a far....short and stubby buildings....i know that solstice has been developed by the same developer as citygate...and i hope that the TWO don't end up looking almost identical...if it can build like it looks on the rendering then it will look good...but i'm afraid it will end up looking like citygate except less green

Travis007
June 2nd, 2005, 11:38 PM
anyone know which condo in absolute is going up first?
I don't know if they're going up very fast but I guess that the first 2 phases are going up together since they're both sold out.

And I think thsi thread should be stickied just in case we might lose this thread. But I bet rapideye will make sure this thread stays on the first page. ;)

Lucky 24
June 3rd, 2005, 08:10 AM
Yeah, I thought I had stickied it when I moved it over here...
Done! ;)

rapideye95
June 3rd, 2005, 09:16 AM
oh i thought u already did as well...LOL...thx

valantino
June 3rd, 2005, 06:35 PM
First 2 towers, 29 & 31 storeys, are underconstruction at Absolute

doady
June 3rd, 2005, 07:08 PM
Completed in 2004/2005

Citygate 1- 34
One City Centre 1 - 31
Ovation 1 - 31
One City Centre 2 - 29
The Capri - 20
Papillon Place 1 - 19

Under Construction

One Park Tower - 38
Citygate 2 - 34
Grand Ovation - 34
Eden Park 1 - 33
A2 - 31
Ovation 2 - 31
Capital North - 30
Capital South - 30
Absolute City Centre 1 - 29
Papillon Place 2 - 19
Amica City Centre - 17

Proposed / approved

Parkside Village 1 - 50
Parkside Village 2 - 45
Parkside Village 3 - 45
Parkside Village 4 - 40
Parkside Village 5 - 40
Solstice 1 - 38
Solstice 2 - 38
Absolute Vision - 38
Parkside Village 6 - 35
204 Enfield Place - 33
Eden Park 2 - 33
Eden Park 3 - 33
25 Hillcrest Avenue - 26
2100 Bromsgrove Road 1 - 26
2100 Bromsgrove Road 2 - 26
St. Lawrence 3 - 25
St. Lawrence 4 - 25
Universal 1 - 22
St. Lawrence 1 - 22
Tuscany Gates - 18
Papillion Place 3 - 18
Papillion Place 4 - 18
St. Lawrence 2 - 18
75 Britannia Road West - 14 (office)
Village Terraces 3 - 12
Parkside Village 7 - 26+
Parkside Village 8 - 26+
Parkside Village 9 - 26+
Parkside Village 10 - 26+
Parkside Village 11 - 26+
Parkside Village 12 - 11-25
Parkside Village 13 - 11-25
Parkside Village 14 - 11-25
Parkside Village 15 - 11-25
Parkside Village 16 - 11-25
Parkside Village 17 - 11-25
Central Park 4 - ?
Central Park 5 - ?
Central Park 6 - ?
Absolute City Centre 4 - ?
Absolute City Centre 5 - ?
Universal 2 - ?
Universal 3 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 1 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 2 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 3 - ?

Travis007
June 3rd, 2005, 10:47 PM
It's kind of scary how big Parkside Village will be, even bigger than Cityplace. :eek:

punkstarbassist101
June 3rd, 2005, 11:48 PM
Completed in 2004/2005

Citygate 1- 34
One City Centre 1 - 31
Ovation 1 - 31
One City Centre 2 - 29
The Capri - 20
Papillon Place 1 - 19

Under Construction

One Park Tower - 38
Citygate 2 - 34
Grand Ovation - 34
Eden Park 1 - 33
A2 - 31
Ovation 2 - 31
Capital North - 30
Capital South - 30
Absolute City Centre 1 - 29
Papillon Place 2 - 19
Amica City Centre - 17

Proposed / approved

Parkside Village 1 - 50
Parkside Village 2 - 45
Parkside Village 3 - 45
Solstice 1 - 42
Solstice 2 - 42
Parkside Village 4 - 40
Parkside Village 5 - 40
Absolute Vision - 38
204 Enfield Place - 33
Eden Park 2 - 33
Eden Park 3 - 33
25 Hillcrest Avenue - 26
St. Lawrence 3 - 25
St. Lawrence 4 - 25
Universal 1 - 22
St. Lawrence 1 - 22
Tuscany Gates - 18
Papillion Place 3 - 18
Papillion Place 4 - 18
St. Lawrence 2 - 18
75 Britannia Road West - 14 (office)
Village Terraces 3 - 12
Parkside Village 6 - 26+
Parkside Village 7 - 26+
Parkside Village 8 - 26+
Parkside Village 9 - 26+
Parkside Village 10 - 26+
Parkside Village 11 - 26+
Parkside Village 12 - 11-25
Parkside Village 13 - 11-25
Parkside Village 14 - 11-25
Parkside Village 15 - 11-25
Parkside Village 16 - 11-25
Parkside Village 17 - 11-25
Central Park 4 - ?
Central Park 5 - ?
Central Park 6 - ?
Absolute City Centre 4 - ?
Absolute City Centre 5 - ?
Universal 2 - ?
Universal 3 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 1 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 2 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 3 - ?

We're sure gonna get a lot of condo's in Mississauga. Anyway, I thought Solstice was 38 stories, where did 42 come from?

Travis007
June 5th, 2005, 12:02 AM
We're sure gonna get a lot of condo's in Mississauga. Anyway, I thought Solstice was 38 stories, where did 42 come from?
Possible height increase?

But i still think it's 38s, the article of it in the Condo Guide actually calls it 36s.

rapideye95
June 5th, 2005, 12:34 AM
if the solstice condo's end up being 42 stories...that will be "SICK!"

Travis007
June 5th, 2005, 12:37 AM
if the solstice condo's end up being 42 stories...that will be "SICK!"
Kids don't say "radical" anymore? ;)

doady
June 5th, 2005, 01:03 AM
No Solstice was 42 stories before but then it became 38 stories after the rendering was unveiled. Sorry for the confusion, the correct height is 38 stories. The list is a little outdated but I fixed it.

neilio
June 5th, 2005, 03:07 AM
Emporis is wrong. There is only one 50 story tower. Here are all the proposals in Misss excluding the ones in Clarkson that you mentioned:

Parkside Village 1 - 50
Parkside Village 2 - 45
Parkside Village 3 - 45
Parkside Village 4 - 40
Parkside Village 5 - 40
Solstice 1 - 38
Solstice 2 - 38
One Park Tower - 38
Absolute Vision - 38
Grand Ovation - 34
204 Enfield Place - 33
Eden Park 2 - 33
Eden Park 3 - 33
25 Hillcrest Avenue - 26
St. Lawrence 3 - 25
St. Lawrence 4 - 25
Universal 1 - 22
St. Lawrence 1 - 22
Tuscany Gates - 18
Papillion Place 3 - 18
Papillion Place 4 - 18
St. Lawrence 2 - 18
75 Britannia Road West - 14
Village Terraces 3 - 12
Parkside Village 6 - 26+
Parkside Village 7 - 26+
Parkside Village 8 - 26+
Parkside Village 9 - 26+
Parkside Village 10 - 26+
Parkside Village 11 - 26+
Parkside Village 12 - 11-25
Parkside Village 13 - 11-25
Parkside Village 14 - 11-25
Parkside Village 15 - 11-25
Parkside Village 16 - 11-25
Parkside Village 17 - 11-25
Central Park 4 - ?
Central Park 5 - ?
Central Park 6 - ?
Absolute City Centre 4 - ?
Absolute City Centre 5 - ?
Universal 2 - ?
Universal 3 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 1 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 2 - ?
1295 Rathburn Road West 3 - ?

No doubt that there are several proposals along the Eglinton Ave corridor as well.

my question is, since mississauga is concidered to be part of Toronto, are all these high rises going up going to be added to Toronto's list of Proposed, Built, U/C list?

doady
June 5th, 2005, 03:57 AM
my question is, since mississauga is concidered to be part of Toronto, are all these high rises going up going to be added to Toronto's list of Proposed, Built, U/C list?

Mississauga is part of Toronto's metro area but it is a separate city with its own government.

Travis007
June 5th, 2005, 04:07 AM
Mississauga is part of Toronto's metro area but it is a separate city with its own government.
No, I think neilio meant if it's gonna be added on Tronna's list of proposals/approval/whatevers. No, they will be added under mississauga's own list of highrises.

valantino
June 5th, 2005, 06:32 AM
"are all these high rises going up going to be added to Toronto's list of Proposed, Built, U/C list?"

That depends on the list

rapideye95
June 5th, 2005, 08:52 AM
No Solstice was 42 stories before but then it became 38 stories after the rendering was unveiled. Sorry for the confusion, the correct height is 38 stories. The list is a little outdated but I fixed it.

awwww are you serious u got my hopes up XD :D jk

rapideye95
June 7th, 2005, 05:38 AM
can anyone tell me what the average time of construction is on the avg 30-40 story tower...I know that there are many factors to the overall time...but what's the avg...cuz I'm no expert but i think Citygate took a very long time

Mike in TO
June 7th, 2005, 04:50 PM
Citygate was built in a very reasonable amount of time. Sales for that size of tower can range from a few months if it is selling like hotcakes to a couple of years. Excavation and construction of the underground elements of course depends on depth and the conditions underground - there are often unforeseen snags which can impact the construction schedule - for example Minto Midtown encountered an underground waterway that had to be re-routed and constantly pumped during excavation. 1 King West encountered underground foundations of a mystery structure that were never included in any surveys or blueprints from the old bank tower - so when building in an urban environment be prepared for delays.

Of course the actual depth of the project makes a huge difference - I suspect Citygate went two or three floors underground - whereas Residences of College Park had seven underground floors and hit some pretty hard rock foundations which slow the process down.

Typically when going down 3-5 floors it will take a year to go down and then come back up constructing the parking facilities.

For the actual tower base/lobby/podium construction takes longer than typical floors - perhaps a week or two per lower level floor.

Once construction has reached the tower stage the speed depends on the floor plate - some are easy to construct than others and some towers have many changes to unit layouts and floor plates while others use the same formula the whole way up. Once these floors are being added a builder can usually do 2 or 3 floors a week.

The mechanical systems up top take a little longer

Interior elements are usually done from the bottom up and can occur when concrete is still being poured on upper levels. Once the building is weather-proofs carpets, drywall, painting, wall paper, kitchens etc are on their way in. the speed at this stage depends on the number of trades available and supplies. I've heard of long delays due to high demand and a low supply of everything from waiting weeks for window delivery to kitchen cabinets - delays are commonplace in the construction industry.

Weather can also lead to significant delays - in high winds and especially in the winter - the colder it is, the longer the breaks are to warm up and at certain temperatures all exterior work stops. Also work can slow down in very heavy rain or fog on high-rises - building in the Toronto climate not easy.

I would estimate that a Citygate size tower would roughly take two and a half years to construct toss in sales, marketing, planning, land aquisition etc and you are looking at 5-8 years at the very least from initial planning to occupancy and then the Tarion Warranty process and after sales service goes on for several years beyond occupancy.

rapideye95
June 7th, 2005, 08:07 PM
great stuff Mike. you tought me lots from that. ty....

I think citygate was halted during the first phase becasue of a concrete strike...a friend was telling me this. He works in construction and told me that places like citygate and others paused right in the middle of construction..that what i was told about a year ago when that happened

Mike in TO
June 8th, 2005, 10:40 PM
The biggest design challenge for Davies Smith (builder for Citygate) was the amount of shale and rock that was close to the surface. It meant that only two levels of the parking garage could be underground, the other four levels had to be built above grade behind the main building. The solution was to create a functional landscaped patio on the top of the parking garage, and build two storey lofts at the front of the building.

rapideye95
June 9th, 2005, 09:34 PM
The biggest design challenge for Davies Smith (builder for Citygate) was the amount of shale and rock that was close to the surface. It meant that only two levels of the parking garage could be underground, the other four levels had to be built above grade behind the main building. The solution was to create a functional landscaped patio on the top of the parking garage, and build two storey lofts at the front of the building.

I suppose it's not that bad. At least they are utilizing their space well

rapideye95
June 12th, 2005, 10:50 AM
in Clarkson, 2, 26-story apartments with retail on the bottom; will be constructed near clarkson GO on bromgrove off of southdown road...I don't have that much extra info on it now because it just got approved by the city but they bought the two old dilapidated properties which they will be demolishing and building in that space...it looks very promising. I had posted pic previously of the land they were using but i was using myfilehut.com and they are "no more"

i'm wondering what's the next best place to upload pic on the web?????

Travis007
June 12th, 2005, 05:38 PM
^ Have you tried www.photobucket.com or www.imageshack.com

rapideye95
June 12th, 2005, 07:48 PM
no which one is better?

Roch5220
June 12th, 2005, 08:05 PM
Those are probably the ones that first surfaced a year or so ago on the old CDN tire site.

Travis007
June 12th, 2005, 10:09 PM
no which one is better?
They're both the same, but I would recommend photobucket.

doady
June 13th, 2005, 08:47 AM
The development that Rapideye mentions are properties 2100 and 2104 Bromsgrove Rd. Mississauga's list of developments gets even longer, thanks for the heads-up Rapideye!

valantino
June 13th, 2005, 06:03 PM
Need more information

rapideye95
June 13th, 2005, 07:31 PM
The development that Rapideye mentions are properties 2100 and 2104 Bromsgrove Rd. Mississauga's list of developments gets even longer, thanks for the heads-up Rapideye!

Both properties combined create a large space for development. the automart is huge. There is also a few other twin towers proposed on southdown road...19 and 17 stories.. i think the whole project will have 418 units and two parks. and will be located right near the walden circle condominiums. One problem is that too many people are crossing to the other side from clarkson GO and If these condos go up..they will defintely have to build an overpass or underpass from clarkson GO to the other side.

doady
June 13th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Both properties combined create a large space for development. the automart is huge. There is also a few other twin towers proposed on southdown road...19 and 17 stories.. i think the whole project will have 418 units and two parks. and will be located right near the walden circle condominiums. One problem is that too many people are crossing to the other side from clarkson GO and If these condos go up..they will defintely have to build an overpass or underpass from clarkson GO to the other side.

I know Clarkson is zoned for lots of high density but I didn't realize there was so much developments going on. This is great news. Maybe GO Transit's plans for subway-like frequency on the Lakeshore line aren't so far-fetched after all...

Roch5220
June 13th, 2005, 07:41 PM
Maybe GO Transit's plans for subway-like frequency on the Lakeshore line aren't so far-fetched after all...

I really think this could work, so long as they use different rolling stock, and that they cut down on the # cars on each train. What they have to do is to build huge parking garages at each GO lot.

rapideye95
June 13th, 2005, 08:35 PM
I know Clarkson is zoned for lots of high density but I didn't realize there was so much developments going on. This is great news. Maybe GO Transit's plans for subway-like frequency on the Lakeshore line aren't so far-fetched after all...

They aren't far-fetched at all...it's great planning and it's needed...even oakville GO is extremely busy...Clarkson is becoming even more of a prime location to be due to the great accessibility to transit, Great Parks, great retail, spas, and fantastic restaurants...A lot of Semi-detached houses are going for 250,000 bare minimum now. My girlfriend is actually moving from the clarkson area to brampton and many people are telling her family that they are insane. but they were able to sell their semi for 290k...so people are willing to spend lots of money to be in clarkson. One other growing area is the Birch Glen area (formerly known as Tulca Village) They are developing a high-density townhouse complex with about 50-something units. It's replacing an area that has only 3 little bungaloes and all open area. It's right beside the KFC on lakeshore.

Roch5220
June 13th, 2005, 09:13 PM
The real issue is where people are going? Office space downtown hasn't really been increasing over the last decade, however, the population continues to grow. Increasing GO frequency is just one piece of the puzzle.

valantino
June 14th, 2005, 05:29 AM
Appears Emporis has updated the 905 cities

rapideye95
June 14th, 2005, 06:50 AM
what did they update...because mississauga and brampton all look the same to me....they updated that about 3 weeks back or 2 weeks....but if i missed something...feel free to mention it

valantino
June 14th, 2005, 07:04 AM
Those that needed updating - mainly York Region

Roch5220
June 14th, 2005, 02:40 PM
I wish they start inputing/finding out heights for 416/905 buildings.

doady
June 15th, 2005, 02:41 AM
I did notice was that added several proposals for Markham, but the other 905 cities' databases did not change much.

rapideye95
June 15th, 2005, 05:30 AM
so long automart!!!!! down you go!!!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MYPICS005.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MYPICS004.jpg

Here's one of Clarkson's tallest

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MYPICS006.jpg

Mississauga City Centre.....bad day for taking pics :( too bad

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MYPICS011.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MYPICS014.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MYPICS020.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MYPICS019.jpg

rapideye95
June 15th, 2005, 05:33 AM
good god my camera is brutal...can anyone tell me why the buildings in my shots look warped?????

doady
June 20th, 2005, 06:45 AM
good god my camera is brutal...can anyone tell me why the buildings in my shots look warped?????

Because you are taking pictures from the ground so the vertical lines of the buildings converge. You can reduce this by taking pictures from farther away or from higher ground or you can use photoshop.

Travis007
June 20th, 2005, 10:11 PM
Actually, the pics aren't that bad. It's just the fact that you chose to take pics of crappy buildings (first 3 pics) :( ;)

And the parkette/plaza by Citygate looks nice, too bad there's no one there though.

punkstarbassist101
June 21st, 2005, 12:12 AM
Pics taken today
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/skypics/514f0011.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/skypics/3649dada.jpg

Jaye101
June 28th, 2005, 11:50 PM
I still do not comprehend how a Toronto SUBURB, and some Boroughs can have more highrises than major american cities.

rapideye95
June 29th, 2005, 04:49 AM
^^^^what??? you mean BUFFALO??? :D LOL JK

rapideye95
July 11th, 2005, 07:34 PM
The Capital North has reached full height and now they are filling the rest all in and capital south is almost full height too..Eden Park is constructing on the 4th or 5th florr right now. Absolute is now also above the ground with two of thier building under construction. Grand Ovation is about to start building also...

Just keeping everyone up to date

rapideye95
July 11th, 2005, 07:37 PM
For people that do not now about this yet,

The Conservatory group has the Universal Condominiums being built on rathburn rd directly beside playdium, in front of the bus terminal. It's not undercontruction but that is where the site and sales office are

valantino
July 11th, 2005, 08:02 PM
Universal seems to be in sales now for years (and there are still two more phases to come!)

rapideye95
July 11th, 2005, 08:21 PM
fantastic!!! i just learned something new

doady
July 11th, 2005, 08:53 PM
OMERS (the company that owns Square One) has filed an application to drastically reduce the amount of parking on their lands, which is good news for Misssissauga Transit. The bad news is that they want to build alot of "stand-alone retail" (big box?).
http://www.mississauga.ca/ecity/download/?repositoryKey=Ecity&itemDesc=file&dataName=data&mimeTypeName=mimeType&id=45300022

There is also an unrelated proposal to build condominum townhouses and street row townhouses at the intersection of Shipp Dr. and Robert Speck Parkway. The few street row townhouses that exist in Mississauga are very nice so I hope this will turn out well too but I would prefer mid-rise apartments instead of those condo townhouses, just to increase density.
http://www.mississauga.ca/ecity/download/?repositoryKey=Ecity&itemDesc=file&dataName=data&mimeTypeName=mimeType&id=45300022

rapideye95
July 12th, 2005, 09:40 AM
The idea of puting townhouses in that area is a "no-no" especially if you are planning an urban downtown environment...a project like that should be located on hurontario, north of eglinton where a lot of free land still exists. I strongly hope that the Shipp and RS parkway proposal changes to a condo but a nice looking one....

BTW in regards to the reduction of parking space in square one, this is extremely great news...mississauga could build extremely tall buildings and sq1 will still look like lifeless flat land. I agree with "stand-alone, street-level" retail because MCC needs to have some sort of street life outside of sq1...people should be outside. I believe that the city should really soup up Duke of York Boulevard as well as that south side of rathburn west of duke of york...If Mississauga expects to attract more residents downtown, then it needs to have some street credibility....like port credit

I don't know if any one on here grabs those free "condo guide" magazines...but I recommend that you people check it out

peel region has sold 10% less condominium units this may than may of last year
with high rise selling 21% less than may of last year

Last Month was a good month, May was less than projected but hopefully next month will be better

doady
July 12th, 2005, 11:38 PM
The idea of puting townhouses in that area is a "no-no" especially if you are planning an urban downtown environment...a project like that should be located on hurontario, north of eglinton where a lot of free land still exists. I strongly hope that the Shipp and RS parkway proposal changes to a condo but a nice looking one....



Townhouses at that location aren't really that bad at all. I would be more disappointed if they were built at a major intersection like Hurontario and Eglinton as you suggest. The lands at that intersection are actually zoned for high-density, as they should be.

rapideye95
July 13th, 2005, 06:23 AM
hahhaha...no...i'm saying eglinton and further north...not directly on eglinton...

punkstarbassist101
July 26th, 2005, 01:19 AM
I know this is a crappy pic anyway the capital has grown a lot since the previous ones posted.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/skypics/picture1.jpg

I also wanted to mention the now under construction sign on all those one park tower boards are gone and it now says something like live 6 months free.

rapideye95
July 26th, 2005, 08:25 AM
HAHAHAHAHA...are you shytting me...it really says that?....Daniels' must have initaited a huge marketing ploy....for nothing....actually a couple of weeks ago i was waiting for the 26 right outside the sales office and this dirty looking freak in a truck came and started taking all of the signs from absolute and all the nearby condos and was placing in his truck...i found that to be very freak-ay

BTW i just wanna make this clear...who and what building can you live six months free?

valantino
July 26th, 2005, 04:36 PM
Someone at UT mentioned that shoring is underway at One Park.


Anys news on Universal - has it started?

rapideye95
July 26th, 2005, 09:38 PM
^^^^No it hasn't started yet....there is still that same rezoning sign that is there?...you're talking about right beside playdium right???

On another note..One park Tower is gonna be a very tall building with 38 stories and 9" ceilings, I think it's gonna top out between 140-160m

The Capital I'd say is about only 100m and a bit, tall but these buildings are going to look beautiful...if you go and check out the exterior from the bottom...they have that red look mixed with the goldish-brown look...which is what mississauga needs...Something different

rapideye95
July 26th, 2005, 09:41 PM
Townhouses at that location aren't really that bad at all. I would be more disappointed if they were built at a major intersection like Hurontario and Eglinton as you suggest. The lands at that intersection are actually zoned for high-density, as they should be.

Yeah u were right doady I checked out that Shipp and RSP intersection...and that actually is a nice location for townhouses....but I really hope they don't make a huge slur of townhouses that are all the same color

rapideye95
August 12th, 2005, 06:47 PM
THE CONSERVATORY GROUP IS COMING OUT WITH A NEW PROJECT CALLED "W I D E S U I T E S" sounds exciting but i cannot find any info about it...they are just starting to market it so it's still fairly new but I can't wait to check out wuz gwanin wit that

rapideye95
August 27th, 2005, 08:45 AM
does anyone have any recent PICS of Square one area...cuz i haven't been there in a month...and I wanna know if there has been a significant change....Geez i go to Toronto's downtown more often now...XD

punkstarbassist101
August 27th, 2005, 09:39 PM
does anyone have any recent PICS of Square one area...cuz i haven't been there in a month...and I wanna know if there has been a significant change....Geez i go to Toronto's downtown more often now...XD

Oh there has been a change alright. Citygate 2 only has a few more floors too go with the windows. Also they are now building that triangular roof on top of the capital north building. I'm sure there's more then that going on down there as a well.

rapideye95
August 27th, 2005, 11:39 PM
yeah i want to go check it out so badly...hopefully some time during the day if I have some time

valantino
August 28th, 2005, 02:48 AM
Is Ovation done?

in'sauga
August 28th, 2005, 03:08 AM
Ovation is pretty much done, both towers. Tower two its just some finishing touches. Now they are excavating for the Grand Ovation. This was supposed to be the smallest of the three towers at 26 stories but demand was high, so they've uped the height and it will now be 33 stories tall.

rapideye95
August 29th, 2005, 06:00 PM
I saw the capital building and they are building the traingular top just as punkstarbassist said...the good news is that both phases of the buildings are almost done on the outside...which is really good...it's actually much taller than what i originally anticipated because they are building the triangular top more taller than how it looks on the rendering....o.O

Jaye101
August 29th, 2005, 07:22 PM
So most of Saugas buildings are in one area?

valantino
August 30th, 2005, 01:09 AM
"Ovation is pretty much done, both towers. Tower two its just some finishing touches."

Is the construction elevator down? Are people moving in? (Have to keep rapideye95 happy at emporis.com)

Bertez
August 30th, 2005, 03:45 AM
So most of Saugas buildings are in one area?

Most of the condos are around sqaure one, with some like Eden park being a bit south on Highway 10. There is huge complex on Highway 10 and Eglinton. BTW, those who can, there is a great shot of the Mississauga skyline.... it is where the barn is, on McLaughlin and Eglinton.

punkstarbassist101
August 30th, 2005, 06:27 AM
Most of the condos are around sqaure one, with some like Eden park being a bit south on Highway 10. There is huge complex on Highway 10 and Eglinton. BTW, those who can, there is a great shot of the Mississauga skyline.... it is where the barn is, on McLaughlin and Eglinton.

I've also thought that the skyline shot of Mississauga at that barn is great as well.

rapideye95
August 30th, 2005, 08:04 PM
"Ovation is pretty much done, both towers. Tower two its just some finishing touches."

Is the construction elevator down? Are people moving in? (Have to keep rapideye95 happy at emporis.com)

Ummm can you tell me what you mean by that comment???
Please humour me

rapideye95
August 30th, 2005, 08:07 PM
Most of the condos are around sqaure one, with some like Eden park being a bit south on Highway 10. There is huge complex on Highway 10 and Eglinton. BTW, those who can, there is a great shot of the Mississauga skyline.... it is where the barn is, on McLaughlin and Eglinton.


If you do not want to take a pano and still get a good view of all of the talls in MCC, there are only 3 words to remember

Central Parkway and Mavis

However you would have to be lucky to be able to find some elevated area somewhere

BTW the barn area on eglinton is an awesome place too

valantino
August 30th, 2005, 11:33 PM
"Ummm can you tell me what you mean by that comment???
Please humour me"


Have to keep rapideye95 happy at emporis.com

sorry - wrong preposition used (failed grammar school once or twice)

Have to keep rapideye95 happy with emporis.com

rapideye95
August 31st, 2005, 07:33 AM
My apologies then.

Besides I Don't like emporis anymore...It's the largest database...but SCC is a better source for this stuff now

jeicow
August 31st, 2005, 08:20 AM
I know that Fram is starting their North Shore Development on the NE corner of Lakeshore/Hurontatio and I heard it's suppose to be a two tower development with lots of street side store fronts, but I was wondering if any one here knew anything more (ie. height, construction dates etc.)

I have a feeling that if it does happen it will be a great success because FRAM's Port Credit Village development has brought back more night life to the Port Credit.

So if anyone has anymore info/renderings that be appreciated :D

rapideye95
August 31st, 2005, 09:25 AM
Yeah I tried to get some info on it. The project hasn't even unveiled yet but it will be coming soon. The good news is the same developer and architect as the Port Credit Developments will also be behind this project

What I would like to know is whether it will be condominium houses, a low-rise or a high-rise building.

punkstarbassist101
August 31st, 2005, 10:42 PM
I saw the capital building and they are building the traingular top just as punkstarbassist said...the good news is that both phases of the buildings are almost done on the outside...which is really good...it's actually much taller than what i originally anticipated because they are building the triangular top more taller than how it looks on the rendering....o.O

I saw the capital much closer up today and well from the view I saw it at it almost looked as tall as citygate and thats without the spear. I wonder exactly how tall the capital will actually be though.

rapideye95
September 1st, 2005, 03:30 AM
I saw the capital much closer up today and well from the view I saw it at it almost looked as tall as citygate and thats without the spear. I wonder exactly how tall the capital will actually be though.

I did take some pics last sunday of the buildings...and citygate is still about 5-10m taller. but The Capital looks already a hell of a lot better than citygate.
I cannot wait until they get One Park Tower started.

I have some good shots...and i will post them later on...i just need my usb cable for the camera

jeicow
September 2nd, 2005, 02:57 AM
After searching like crazy, I finally found some proposals for the North Shore Development on the NE corner of Hurontario and Lakeshore. These are from December (I don't know how much they've changed, but at least they give the basic idea for the development).

The site I found this on was a rate-payers association that was against this proposal and hasn't been update since December either so I can't be sure what the project looks like but this was what I found out.
1. Proposes a two tower concept. The southern most would be 22 stories and the northern tower would be 18 stories, and would in total have 350 units.
2. There would be a fitness centre that would have an indoor pool, fitness facilities, change rooms, and meeting facilities on the SE corner of Park Street and Hurontario. It would be open only to residents during certain times, and then open to the public during other periods on a paid basis.

One of the challenges it faces/faced was a ruling by the Ontario Municipal Board (OMB) that said that that parcel of land could not have any buildings over 10 stories on Hurontario, and that buildings built on it that faced on Lakeshore could not be over 6 stories and that the total number of units on the land could not exceed 228 residential units. *the original proposal had a 30 story tower.

There is also a proposal for two more 25 storey tower on the SW corner of Hurontario and Park Street on the west side of Hurontario (One facing Hurontario, and the other facing Ann Street)

Now for the images:

Includes all the proposals (http://www.credit-reserve.com/NP_Siteplan.htm)

Doesn't include the proposal on the West side of Hurontario (http://www.credit-reserve.com/NP_Aerial_lg.htm)

Includes both proposals (http://www.credit-reserve.com/NP_Artist.htm)

Link For More INFO. (http://www.credit-reserve.com/news04fall-north_property.htm) * Note that this is for a site that is opposed to the project but since the signs for North Shore have already been put up on the corner of Lakeshore and Hurontario, I believe that it's all been done. There is a notice for re-zoning but I haven't had a chance to read what it is for yet.

Bertez
September 2nd, 2005, 04:39 AM
^^Nice pics

rapideye95
September 2nd, 2005, 09:35 AM
WOW that development will be awesome...fantstic looking buildings at the perfect location...great find

rapideye95
September 2nd, 2005, 09:43 AM
ALRIGHT EVERYONE!!! i took some pics last week....some of them are not good quality because some of them i used a camcorder because my battery died alright well here is what's going on

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MCC1/MCC2020.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MCC1/MCC2016.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MCC1/MCC2011.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MCC1/MCC2010.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MCC1/MCC2006.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MCC1/MCC2003.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MCC1/MCC2005.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/rapideye95/MCC1/MCC2002.jpg

http://newdreamhomes.ca/image.aspx?table=story&column=splash&id=214

what do you people think about the building vs the rendering so far???