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Lostboy
April 4th, 2005, 07:37 PM
School blamed suicide girl who was victim of bullies
By Lewis Smith

Yvonne Rhodes clasps a photograph of her daughter Laura (Photo: Ben Gurr)

THE parents of a girl who killed herself after being bullied may sue her school after learning that a member of staff said that their daughter “must accept the blame” for being victimised.

Mike and Yvonne Rhodes have consulted lawyers about legal action after being handed school records showing that staff held their daughter, Laura, 13, responsible for being bullied.

The couple said that they were astonished and angered at the response of the school, Cefn Saeson, in South Wales, to their daughter’s death.

Social workers have also expressed outrage at the insensitivity of some staff and their failure to tackle persistent bullying.

Laura Rhodes, of Neath, died last year in a suicide pact with Rebecca Ling, 14, a friend she had met through an internet chat room. Rebecca, from Birmingham, survived after telling Mrs Rhodes that the two of them had taken an overdose of prescription pills. Laura died in hospital a few hours later.

Since the death of their daughter, Mr and Mrs Rhodes have been trying to find out to what extent the school authorities accept that they were responsible for failing to prevent her from being bullied.

In papers obtained by the family and seen by The Times, Laura’s progress at Cefn Saeson and comments about the bullying are charted in detail. They reveal that Laura was regarded as being the author of her own misfortune and that the school authorities felt that the bullying allegations were best dealt with by exiling her to a pupil referral unit.

Her parents said they were furious at the way she was treated and a “blame the victim” attitude from authorities that sent out the wrong message to bullies.

When Laura left primary school she was a happy child who thrived in class but by the end of her first day at Cefn Saeson secondary school in Cimla, Neath, she was already complaining of being bullied. Instead of taking every measure to stamp out the bullying, her parents said, the school had within three weeks decided that the problem lay with her and had requested a psychiatric assessment.

During the first term she befriended another girl and sent her affectionate messages. They were interpreted wrongly, Laura said later, as declarations of lesbian love and she was branded the “school dyke”.

After this Laura was held responsible for further outbreaks of abuse. Helen Langford, the education welfare officer, wrote: “Name calling will take a while to stop because of Laura’s verbal indiscretion. Laura fully realises and appreciates she must accept the blame for the current situation.”

By the end of the first year Laura was told to attend the Bryncoch pupil-referral unit instead of Cefn Saeson.

The head of Cefn Saeson, Alun Griffiths, later suggested that Laura was merely the subject of schoolgirl “squabbling”, yet a written record of a meeting to discuss her background states: “Mrs Langford outlined the difficulties Laura had to face at school. She explained that she had suffered some very nasty forms of verbal bullying.”

Mr Rhodes said that his daughter was happier at the referral unit because she could go there knowing that she would not be bullied. Yet at the same time she despaired of her future, realising that three hours’ teaching a day would not prepare her for GCSEs.
Angered by the school attaching blame to Laura, Mr Rhodes said: “It’s the injustice of it. How can they get away with doing this to children? How many more children will die because of schools not dealing with bullying?” Mr Griffiths maintains that his staff did all they could to help Laura, often in the face of her refusal to report bullying immediately or to name the protagonists.

Her parents are equally convinced that some of the measures taken were inappropriate. They cite one lunchtime when Laura was asked to point out in the dining hall, in full view of other pupils, who had been picking on her.



A report by the referral unit noted her reaction to a “circle time” exercise held at the secondary school. It meant Laura being put in the middle of a ring of pupils to talk about her problems. The report stated: “This was not successful as Laura felt it didn’t help to be with the people who had been horrible to her.”

Mr Rhodes said: “If you sue somebody then obviously money is involved but it’s got nothing to do with money or revenge. The best that can come out is to help somebody else.”

Delwyn Tattum, director of the Countering Bullying Unit at the University of Wales Institute Cardiff, said that the family was right to be concerned about Laura’s treatment. After seeing the documents, he said of the school blaming Laura for being bullied: “It’s most unacceptable. It’s blaming the victim for the bullies’ behaviour.”

The school refused to comment in detail about the bullying claims until after the inquest next month but was praised last year by school inspectors for “outstanding” standards of pupil welfare, including bullying.

Laura’s parents will talk further about their experiences on BBC’s Panorama on Sunday.

'I wasn't too stubborn to ask for help. I did ask, but they did not pay attention'

Laura Rhodes wrote a poignant letter describing her torment at the hands of bullies shortly before committing suicide. Laura’s parents have decided to make the 1,250-word letter public in the hope that it might help other bullied children.

“There we were, outside the school, people looking at this fat lump which is myself but oh well. ‘Bye Dad, see you tonight.’ I did not want to leave the car, I wanted to die. I walked to the doors, down the corridor, here are boys standing just before the stairs, legs out, waiting to trip me up, how wonderful.

“I hated it so much. I used to talk to myself in my head, only thing that kept me OK to live. Why were they doing this? Why me? I was fat. Still a person. It had gone on for six months now, same thing every day. I saw some boys laughing at the fact I was fat and possibly a ‘dyke’. I wanted to cry so much but I couldn’t. I had on Friday, I can’t again. At last! Here Mrs Stephens comes: ‘Morning 7c, nice weekend?’ I felt like saying ‘Oh yes, it was wonderful. I cried all the time. How was yours?’ “But no one cared anyway, so what was the point? Yes, I have told my parents. They thought I just didn’t like going to school. Anyone else heard that one? So great, no one believed me while I got fatter and fatter and sadder and sadder. Everyone got meaner and meaner.

“I was standing clutching my bag, holding myself together as if to let go of this bag would be to let go of any pride, or anything I had left. I wasn’t too stubborn to ask for help. I did ask, but they did not pay any attention.

“AT LAST! The final run, HOME. I rush down the road, holding the tears back. ‘Hiya, how was school?’ ‘Fine’ I replied. Didn’t seem any point in saying anything else, did there? They didn’t listen. ‘I’m going to the loo.’ I didn’t enter the bathroom. I went into the box room, I took out scissors, I knew what I was doing. Maybe this would show them what they are doing.

“I dragged it over my wrists a few times, the next few times pressing harder, it felt really good. It hurt, but I pressed harder. S***, there was a mark, a deep red one, what can I do?”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,170-1554152_1,00.html

Zim Flyer
April 4th, 2005, 07:43 PM
Bastards, I hate bullies with a passion.

nukey
April 4th, 2005, 07:45 PM
That made me feel sick. Awful. Children are shits.

JDRS
April 4th, 2005, 07:51 PM
What that school did was disgusting blaming her. Being bullied is horrible.

alphaxion
April 4th, 2005, 07:59 PM
I know how she feels... my second secondary school seriously depressed me with the sheer amount of bullying and exclusion I went thru.. shit, I still get it even today - you'd have thought that when you grew up so would others but no, the bullies of the school never do grow up and even now when I'm 24 I'll still hear cries of "you should have gone to specsavers" or other "amusing" comments.. still, they never seem to expect the verbal blast they tend to get back from me :D my fav is still yelling "and yoda fucked your dog" which simply confuses the fuck out of them.

I'm not surprised in the slightest about the school not accepting responsibility either - I had a head teacher who even took the piss out of me and they never listened whenever I told them they were wrong with things like dumping me into middle sets when I'd come from a school where I was top set for almost everything.
Really sad, but it doesn't surprise me at all :(

Rigadon
April 4th, 2005, 09:01 PM
To be honest I did know people at school who brought bullying onto themselves.

of ocurse Ive noi idea if it was true here but I dotn undertand how people assuem that ti cant be.

Frog
April 4th, 2005, 09:10 PM
sad that all most schools care about is their reputation and not the people :bash:

Lostboy
April 4th, 2005, 09:22 PM
To be honest I did know people at school who brought bullying onto themselves.

Thats true enough, I knew some people that way themselves, but as my sister is a teacher I am also well aware of some schools that don't give a damn about bullying, and that is just as likely, especially if the measure included pointing people out publically. Even if this girl did bring it on herself, that doesn't excuse the way the school responded to it.

Zim Flyer
April 4th, 2005, 09:33 PM
I saw Stephen Fry on Parkinson on Saturday and he said he used to say to bullies "don't hit me, it only gives me an erection" which he said used to stop them from hitting him.

I do like Stephen Fry.

gothicform
April 4th, 2005, 09:40 PM
does he give you an erection then

alphaxion
April 4th, 2005, 09:41 PM
yes, tho the conservitory will have to be removed soon due to renovation ;P

slave1
April 4th, 2005, 09:56 PM
He gives me the butterflies with that accent..

Pobbie Rarr
April 4th, 2005, 10:44 PM
Absolutely fucking despicable. The school should be ashamed of itself. I hated school bullies with a passion: they made me and others feel inferior, creating a winners and losers situation. Bullying may eventually cease, but the psychological scars remain for a very long time. I'm not sure I can ever forgive the pricks who sapped my confidence in the world.

I also despise the institutions which do as little as possible to help others. :no:

Infected Flinch
April 4th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Sad really...it's a shame because people who usually are bullying others often regret their actions in later life. Isn't it always ironic though when you see those kids who were really big in little school being the bully's working as binmen or in crap jobs?

All the ones I knew who used to bully me at one time or another are - and it's give me no end of satisfaction of seeing them in shit-head jobs.

Pobbie Rarr
April 4th, 2005, 11:08 PM
The bullies in my school weren't thick, they were just knob heads. They'll get good jobs in life anyway. Also, even more depressing is the fact that girls seemed to love them yet ignore me. (We've been down this road before, haven't we?)

poshbakerloo
August 30th, 2009, 03:08 AM
Its the bullies that did it! It wouldn't be bullying if the girl asked for it (Which she didn't)

VaastuShastra
August 30th, 2009, 07:32 AM
I saw Stephen Fry on Parkinson on Saturday and he said he used to say to bullies "don't hit me, it only gives me an erection" which he said used to stop them from hitting him.

I do like Stephen Fry.

Stephen Fry was raped at school by a senior student - something he claims he feels no ill will about.

Rumors
August 30th, 2009, 07:38 PM
I've heard so many of these horror stories....sickening. :ohno:

Medici
August 30th, 2009, 07:44 PM
I know is totally off topic from the article, but many Catholic schools are reluctant to stop homophobic bullying.

Their response is often 'we don't have homosexuals in this school'

Tony Sebo
August 30th, 2009, 11:58 PM
Its the bullies that did it! It wouldn't be bullying if the girl asked for it (Which she didn't)

"but there just as much victims (of society and other bollocks) as the others"

Matthieu
August 31st, 2009, 09:34 AM
What's with bumping the lostboyesque threads?

Tony Sebo
August 31st, 2009, 12:30 PM
Someone is incredibly bored and has been desperately trawling the lists to find something remotely stimulating?

mexico86
August 31st, 2009, 03:03 PM
it gives the false impression he's still around here.